Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this war. It's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon, the tri State after the great debate of
Speaker 1: last night with jad Vance, who goes to the same
Speaker 1: church that I go to. And secondly Tim Wallas, it
Speaker 1: looked like he didn't have his dentures in half the time.
Speaker 1: Coming up on Sunday the course of the Reds and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the Reds, the Bengals, the Bengals and the
Speaker 1: Ravens tee it up about one o'clock at pay Corse Stadium,
Speaker 1: getting ready for that and so much more. But I
Speaker 1: was kind of shocked at the debate last night, even
Speaker 1: MSNBC and nice things to say about jd Vance that
Speaker 1: could be the kiss of death. But nonetheless a column
Speaker 1: by Curtis Halk of Media Research Center, he wrote this
Speaker 1: on October the first, which I think last night pointed
Speaker 1: out what occurred star contrasts. He said, moderate folksy football
Speaker 1: coach Walls versus weird and dangerous jd Vance. Then the
Speaker 1: debate happened last night, And first of all, Curtis Halk,
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. You're with me
Speaker 1: a Research Center NewsBusters give me your references to the
Speaker 1: debate last night this Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Bill, I always pleasure to.
Speaker 3: Be with you.
Speaker 2: I just I think there's a couple of things here
Speaker 2: going on. Number One, I think it's definitely a tell
Speaker 2: that jd. Vance did so well and the liberal media
Speaker 2: know it that they're resorting to doing a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Number One, focusing so much on January sixth and abortion.
Speaker 2: ABC's Good Morning America really made that the central focus
Speaker 2: of their post debate coverage, their coverage on Good Morning America, arguing,
Speaker 2: as Jonathan Carl did, that dis election is not really
Speaker 2: about policy or you know those tusky concerns Americans have about, Oh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, the economy, housing, immigration, the border of
Speaker 2: the schools. Who No, it's really no, no, no, It's
Speaker 2: really about democracy. And Jade Vance's answer ninety minutes of debate,
Speaker 2: that's what we need to talk about, and this is
Speaker 2: what defined the debate. To this, I'd be like, it
Speaker 2: just shows how out of touch they are and why
Speaker 2: it was such an insane decision to give ABC this
Speaker 2: debate the presidential debate last month, so we have that
Speaker 2: going on as well. I think that's definitely a theme
Speaker 2: that we saw as well throughout the post debate coverage
Speaker 2: msmc tod this CNN kept doing this as well, Abby
Speaker 2: Phillip and Dana Bashion, Jay Taffer, the Spin room kept
Speaker 2: coming back to January sixth, despite you know what Scott
Speaker 2: Jennings was trying to do and talking about Walls's radicalism
Speaker 2: on abortion and his lack of clarity. He has to
Speaker 2: be charitable when it comes to his resume and overall,
Speaker 2: I think obviously the moderators as well were definitely a
Speaker 2: huge story as well. Noradonnell and Margaret Brennan. We're definitely
Speaker 2: on the pompous side, I would say, and we have
Speaker 2: a story up fire. Nick Vonakara where we graded the questions.
Speaker 2: He crunched the numbers and found that there were twelve
Speaker 2: questions from the last sixteen neutral and only five from.
Speaker 4: The right, which is better than normal.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, so twenty eight of the twenty eight
Speaker 1: of the thirty three were either from the left wing
Speaker 1: or neutral, and then you had five of the thirty
Speaker 1: three that had a conservative. One of the worst parts
Speaker 1: I thought was the opening remarks or answer to the
Speaker 1: questions by Tim Wallace. He looked scared he looked frightened
Speaker 1: here that why did I look like?
Speaker 4: Who am I? What am I doing here?
Speaker 1: And then the denture problem, it looked like he didn't
Speaker 1: have his dentures incorrectly, he looked scared to death. And
Speaker 1: when I asked about Tianaman Square, which of course he
Speaker 1: lied about. If I was in or around Tianneman Square
Speaker 1: when the tanks went up against that, dude, I'd never
Speaker 1: forget that.
Speaker 4: But he flatly lied about that.
Speaker 1: And then the answer was, well, you know, I was
Speaker 1: born in Nebraska and I was riding my bike when
Speaker 1: the lights went on, had to go home. I'm a
Speaker 1: Nebraska kind of a guy. I was born in a ditch.
Speaker 1: I used to lick water from puddles in a ditch.
Speaker 1: That's where I came from. He never answered the question.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like he channeled Kamala Harris saying, well, you know,
Speaker 2: I grew up in the middle class family. You know,
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see how much he uses that. Well,
Speaker 2: then he does this whole thing on a knucklehead. And
Speaker 2: then when he was asked in the Dana Bash interview
Speaker 2: he did with Kamala Harris a little more than a
Speaker 2: month ago, they were like he said, well, I really
Speaker 2: don't have good grammar, like what, oh, I'm a knucklehead,
Speaker 2: like Scott Jennings on CNN last night was like his
Speaker 2: excuses basically to come down to, well, I'm.
Speaker 4: Too dumb you guys to like know.
Speaker 2: Where I was like, I mean, yes, we can talk
Speaker 2: about how Donald Trump and dullish is in yes, lies.
Speaker 2: But the idea then that we're not going to be
Speaker 2: talk about or we're not allowed to talk about how
Speaker 2: other candidates the Democratic ticket has both candidates have huge
Speaker 2: holes in the resumes is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: In fact, I think actually it would give the media
Speaker 3: a lot more credibility if they were willing to fact
Speaker 3: check and really dig into the resumes of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 3: But they are so scared lists of their own audience
Speaker 3: that they would be seen as both sides ing you.
Speaker 1: Can't do that, you can't be fair and independentalizing. No,
Speaker 1: and you have in your column, which is really you
Speaker 1: brought the receipts you have quotes. Vans has been described
Speaker 1: as quote weird, dangerous, anti woman who believes the supremacy
Speaker 1: of whiteness and masculinity.
Speaker 4: Where the hell did that come from? JD.
Speaker 1: Vance is about the supremacy of whiteness and masculinity, who
Speaker 1: said that.
Speaker 4: This is just a grab bag like a wet we
Speaker 4: got this, and we.
Speaker 2: Got this, and uh, you know JD Vance's this and uh,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and his campaign are the ones that need
Speaker 2: to tone down the rhetoric after Donald Trump got shot
Speaker 2: in the head, like what are you talking about? Uh,
Speaker 2: that was Margaret Brennan also lobbying that nonsense as well.
Speaker 2: So going into debate, we knew exactly what was going
Speaker 2: to happen here. David Muir and Lindsay Davis Namcy debate,
Speaker 2: their fact checking was much more scripted. They admitted to
Speaker 2: this afterward. David muore is said many places, he's not
Speaker 2: a very smart man. He's kind of Ron Burgundy of
Speaker 2: news anchors. His center structure is an offense to preschoolers,
Speaker 2: whereas Nora Donnell and Margaret Brennan are a little bit
Speaker 2: more condescending in their fact checking. Like jad Vance would
Speaker 2: finish an answer and then they would state whatever godby
Speaker 2: Book they wanted to say, but they didn't direct it advanced.
Speaker 2: They didn't say, well, Senator Vance, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: They just set it all smug and moved on. And
Speaker 2: if like your vance, you're like, what a simple a
Speaker 2: simple note would have been sufficient.
Speaker 1: Curtis Halkov, the Media Research Center, NewsBusters. You also have
Speaker 1: something posted from a CBS correspondent who said Tim Waltz
Speaker 1: is an attack dog, but he's so joyful and jolly
Speaker 1: as he bites. I'm thinking the marshmallow Man, you know
Speaker 1: how I'm thinking about the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 4: He's the marshmallow Man.
Speaker 1: He's an attack dog, but he's so joyful and jolly
Speaker 1: when he bites.
Speaker 2: That he's joyful stab you to death.
Speaker 4: This is like what what.
Speaker 3: Like you wonder if these journalists sometimes are there's just like,
Speaker 3: is this a mad libs exercise for some of these people, Like, Oh,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pull an.
Speaker 4: Sat word out of here so I can like seem
Speaker 4: like I'm really smart and.
Speaker 2: Going after Republicans, or I'm gonna create some crude analogy.
Speaker 2: That's what you just feel like they do in a
Speaker 2: lot of these production meetings. They just wonder because they
Speaker 2: say the same thing every day, so they realize that
Speaker 2: we're gonna say, we got to talk about our hate
Speaker 2: for Republicans differently, and and that's really what I think
Speaker 2: it comes down to.
Speaker 1: And how about this one, Rachel Maddow, I have a
Speaker 1: My executive producer is Tony Benner. He often tells me
Speaker 1: how much he loves Rachel Maddow and Rachel Maddow smeared.
Speaker 1: Jdvans is a fascist speech squasher. I don't know what
Speaker 1: a fascist speech squasher is, but that's what Rachel Mannow said.
Speaker 1: Jad Advance is a fascist speech squasher.
Speaker 4: What the hell's that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What is that? Doesn't even mean? They pointed out how
Speaker 2: he's like he's his attacks on liberal academia put him
Speaker 2: in the same like realm as, like Nazis.
Speaker 1: Yes, Jadie Vance, Yes he's a speech squasher. Well do
Speaker 1: you think somehow you know? One thing I've noticed, and
Speaker 1: Curtis howk you're a great observer of the political scene,
Speaker 1: is that the Democrat liberals have wonderfully phrased the abortion
Speaker 1: arguments quote reproductive freedom, and they talk about the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five manifesto that the candidates have rejected that talks
Speaker 1: about a registry when you get pregnant, that women must
Speaker 1: line up in the handmade tail and you gotta line up.
Speaker 4: And say I missed my period.
Speaker 1: I missed my period, and there will be a federal
Speaker 1: registry kept for women who missed their period. Then they
Speaker 1: stop headed up by Jdvans to show up your door
Speaker 1: to see how far along you are with your pregnancy,
Speaker 1: and then they're going to monitor the pregnancy, et cetera.
Speaker 4: Does anyone but would anyone believe this?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: And the thing is even CNN Daniel Dale, the snibbling
Speaker 3: little Home Monitor Canadian on DNN.
Speaker 2: Like like, that's not quite it. And this is why
Speaker 2: the left is so insidious. Bill, You have to connect
Speaker 2: it to the previous discussion about Rachel Manow and dvance
Speaker 2: and academia. They sometimes go on these long benders where
Speaker 2: they just kind of weave and wave and they try
Speaker 2: to make all these historical connections and comparisons, so they
Speaker 2: kind of just muddy the waters. So that because they
Speaker 2: seem really smart and they had a lot of words
Speaker 2: behind it, like that means it must be true. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And they do this with Project twenty twenty five in abortion,
Speaker 2: and it's not true at all. It has to do
Speaker 2: with simply submitting anonymous pregnancy data and miscarriage data that
Speaker 2: would be submitted to AHHS and all states actual a
Speaker 2: lot of states actually do this apparently, or some of it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's required. So that's if it's already happening. I
Speaker 2: guess we already live in Handmaid's tale world.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you know, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: But the liberals have correctly from their perspective, define abortion
Speaker 1: as reproductive freedom. Less than one percent of abortions care
Speaker 1: or health is healthcare. To kill a baby, that's healthcare.
Speaker 1: It's not healthcare to the baby. It's just the opposite
Speaker 1: of healthcare. And when you bring up the factor, well,
Speaker 1: at what point between zero and forty weeks would it
Speaker 1: be wrong for a woman a mother, By the way,
Speaker 1: women have babies or not men, I'm wrong for a
Speaker 1: woman a mother to kill a unborn baby is seven
Speaker 1: month or eighth month. The first thing out of the
Speaker 1: mouth is that doesn't happen.
Speaker 4: But it does. Every year.
Speaker 1: There's about six to seven thousand abortions have healthy babies
Speaker 1: after six months, which is six to seven thousand lives
Speaker 1: snuffed out. And the second thing about that is this
Speaker 1: idea that baby.
Speaker 4: Born alive is not a fact.
Speaker 1: In fact, the Democrats in Congress vetoed the other day
Speaker 1: at an action that said if a baby happens to
Speaker 1: be born alive during a botched abortion, that the doctor
Speaker 1: must use reasonable medical care to save the baby's life
Speaker 1: that he just tried to kill. But the Democrats don't
Speaker 1: want to do that because they want to have abortion
Speaker 1: through forty weeks.
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings brought this up on CNN last night. During
Speaker 2: Kim Wall's tenure as governor, state data from the Minnesota
Speaker 2: Department of Health has revealed that there have been eight
Speaker 2: deaths of infants who survived abortion attempts. Now, under the
Speaker 2: Minnesota abortion law, doctors are under no requirement or oath
Speaker 2: to administer care to any child that survives abortion. And
Speaker 2: he brought the up last night and the liberal panel,
Speaker 2: David Axerod fake Republican Melissa Fara Griffin, and a former
Speaker 2: Obama official along with that Axerrod Ashley Allison all completely
Speaker 2: lost their minds talking about, Oh, do you think this
Speaker 2: is complicated? You know, these children were probably headed for
Speaker 2: really tough lives and it's no one's business. It shouldn't
Speaker 2: be anyone's business what women do to their babies. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just really gruesome stuff. And at the end, Scott said,
Speaker 2: I have to speak up for the babies. They're not
Speaker 2: here to speak for themselves.
Speaker 1: Oh and then he also brought up the fact that
Speaker 1: government controlling your bodies. What the hell happened during COVID vaccine,
Speaker 1: didn't the government and corporate amer say I control your
Speaker 1: body and you will get the injection whether you're liking
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 4: You can't leave your house.
Speaker 1: And we don't want to control your body though. Reproductive freedom,
Speaker 1: my butt. It's it's all about. And the vaccine had
Speaker 1: to be done large employers. You can't leave your home,
Speaker 1: you can't go to church. We're gonna put in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: the governor Kentucky Basher put cops at the entryway of
Speaker 1: churches as he kept over from strip clubs and liquor stores.
Speaker 4: But guess what, we don't control your body.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Yeah, unbelievable. It's healthcare.
Speaker 1: It is care.
Speaker 2: There's caring, kill killing what it really growth.
Speaker 1: Lastly, Rachel Medow tied jd Vance to a series of
Speaker 1: anti Semitican fascist revolutionaries who want at the universities destroyed
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties and forties because they spread communist ideas.
Speaker 1: So this guy from Middletown, Ohio, who went to the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps so he had the GI bill to go
Speaker 1: to Ohives. Date Dan Yale is somehow tied to destroying universities.
Speaker 1: So if the truth doesn't work, make something up.
Speaker 2: Right, less than one percent of Harvard faculty identify as conservative.
Speaker 4: Don't you think that's a problem.
Speaker 2: See, this is a thing. Left doesn't think that's a
Speaker 2: problem because they believe they aren't on the side of truth.
Speaker 2: So if there is an ideological imbalance, they say too bad,
Speaker 2: because the right lies so much anyway, they think the
Speaker 2: bias is not only happening, it is good.
Speaker 4: It's just like with abortion.
Speaker 2: They're now at the point with late term abortions where
Speaker 2: they're not denying it's happening, and in fact they're going
Speaker 2: to say, yes, it is happening, and it's is good.
Speaker 2: With vance, you just make the she just made this
Speaker 2: insane comparison when literally all he said is said, here's
Speaker 2: one quote that she took issue with. The universities do
Speaker 2: not pursue knowledge and truth. They pursue deceit and lies,
Speaker 2: Nazi rhetoric.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Lastly, CNN panel loses it when lonely Scott Jennings mentions
Speaker 1: abortion survivors left that die in Minnesota, and because he
Speaker 1: was so accurate, that panel had to shout him down immediately,
Speaker 1: including pro choice so called Republican Elisa Farren, Griffin, David
Speaker 1: axlerod Asley Allison. They exploded the idea that abortion kills
Speaker 1: unborn babies that are generally healthy, and they could not
Speaker 1: allow that thought to get out there, could they?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, absolutely not. I mean, Scott brings the facts
Speaker 2: on CNN on a daily basis. You see how uncomfortable
Speaker 2: they get when he just merely brings up very basic facts.
Speaker 2: What's funny was Yeah, Lisa Farrow was like, where did
Speaker 2: you get that?
Speaker 4: He said from Minnesota Department of Health? True?
Speaker 2: And yeah, I say, I said, yeah, I just said
Speaker 2: it was a department of Health.
Speaker 4: Like, oh boy, some maga blog.
Speaker 1: You know. Well, lastly, I said to a friend of
Speaker 1: mine that I hope this is the last debate. And
Speaker 1: Donald Trump does not do well in debates. His policies work,
Speaker 1: his debating tactics do not. Would you agree with me?
Speaker 1: Curtis Halk of the media research centernewsbusters dot org that
Speaker 1: this needs to be the last debate because many states
Speaker 1: are voting. In fact, I'm going to vote next week absentee,
Speaker 1: which is stupid. We should vote for four days before
Speaker 1: the election.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: But uh, would you encourage Donald trum to know his role,
Speaker 1: shut his mouth, go to the rallies and get elected president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's exactly right to not want to
Speaker 2: participate in a debate right now. ABC can be all
Speaker 2: stark and condescending like they were this morning. Rachel Scott said, well,
Speaker 2: he debated in late October in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty. Well,
Speaker 2: you can say in retrospect that was the wrong idea
Speaker 2: because you exactly write states. There are states where people
Speaker 2: have been able to vote for multiple weeks at this
Speaker 2: point in early voting. So that's why having debates in
Speaker 2: like June is such a better idea. At this point,
Speaker 2: have the debates before people can actually vote. And I
Speaker 2: think Katie Vance was just so polished. I think it
Speaker 2: was one of the strongest debate performances by a Republican
Speaker 2: in quite some time.
Speaker 1: The only thing close to it is when Billy Boy
Speaker 1: Clinton A nineteen ninety two approached the camera and said,
Speaker 1: I can feel your pain and also your daughter's chest.
Speaker 1: But I added that little part. I added that field.
Speaker 1: But I can feel your pain.
Speaker 2: I know we'll go down like Stockdale. You know that
Speaker 2: was Who am I?
Speaker 4: Why am I here?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: Give me my dress? Let me get them?
Speaker 1: This is beautiful but great website, NewsBusters dot Org. Curtis Hawck,
Speaker 1: once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 1: Show and breaking down last night's great debate.
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, Bill, Go Bangals. Hopefully we can keep
Speaker 3: it rolling on Sunday, hopefully, you know, kind of right,
Speaker 3: the ship, well.
Speaker 4: The Ravens look pretty good.
Speaker 1: They got a pretty good rushing attack, and the Bengals
Speaker 1: defense is like the magine O line in nineteen forty
Speaker 1: when the Nazis went around it.
Speaker 4: But nonetheless, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Man. All right, Curtis Halck, You're a great American, and
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Curtis. Carry on, folks, God bless America.
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