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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this war. It's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday afternoon, the tri State after the great debate of

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<v Speaker 1>last night with jad Vance, who goes to the same

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<v Speaker 1>church that I go to. And secondly Tim Wallas, it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he didn't have his dentures in half the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Sunday the course of the Reds and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry the Reds, the Bengals, the Bengals and the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens tee it up about one o'clock at pay Corse Stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for that and so much more. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of shocked at the debate last night, even

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<v Speaker 1>MSNBC and nice things to say about jd Vance that

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<v Speaker 1>could be the kiss of death. But nonetheless a column

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<v Speaker 1>by Curtis Halk of Media Research Center, he wrote this

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<v Speaker 1>on October the first, which I think last night pointed

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<v Speaker 1>out what occurred star contrasts. He said, moderate folksy football

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<v Speaker 1>coach Walls versus weird and dangerous jd Vance. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>debate happened last night, And first of all, Curtis Halk,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. You're with me

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<v Speaker 1>a Research Center NewsBusters give me your references to the

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<v Speaker 1>debate last night this Wednesday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, Bill, I always pleasure to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I think there's a couple of things here

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<v Speaker 2>going on. Number One, I think it's definitely a tell

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<v Speaker 2>that jd. Vance did so well and the liberal media

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<v Speaker 2>know it that they're resorting to doing a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Number One, focusing so much on January sixth and abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>ABC's Good Morning America really made that the central focus

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<v Speaker 2>of their post debate coverage, their coverage on Good Morning America, arguing,

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<v Speaker 2>as Jonathan Carl did, that dis election is not really

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<v Speaker 2>about policy or you know those tusky concerns Americans have about, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, the economy, housing, immigration, the border of

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<v Speaker 2>the schools. Who No, it's really no, no, no, It's

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<v Speaker 2>really about democracy. And Jade Vance's answer ninety minutes of debate,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we need to talk about, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>what defined the debate. To this, I'd be like, it

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<v Speaker 2>just shows how out of touch they are and why

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<v Speaker 2>it was such an insane decision to give ABC this

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<v Speaker 2>debate the presidential debate last month, so we have that

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<v Speaker 2>going on as well. I think that's definitely a theme

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<v Speaker 2>that we saw as well throughout the post debate coverage

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<v Speaker 2>msmc tod this CNN kept doing this as well, Abby

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<v Speaker 2>Phillip and Dana Bashion, Jay Taffer, the Spin room kept

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<v Speaker 2>coming back to January sixth, despite you know what Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Jennings was trying to do and talking about Walls's radicalism

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<v Speaker 2>on abortion and his lack of clarity. He has to

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<v Speaker 2>be charitable when it comes to his resume and overall,

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<v Speaker 2>I think obviously the moderators as well were definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>huge story as well. Noradonnell and Margaret Brennan. We're definitely

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<v Speaker 2>on the pompous side, I would say, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>a story up fire. Nick Vonakara where we graded the questions.

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<v Speaker 2>He crunched the numbers and found that there were twelve

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<v Speaker 2>questions from the last sixteen neutral and only five from.

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<v Speaker 4>The right, which is better than normal.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, really, so twenty eight of the twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>or neutral, and then you had five of the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three that had a conservative. One of the worst parts

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was the opening remarks or answer to the

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<v Speaker 1>questions by Tim Wallace. He looked scared he looked frightened

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<v Speaker 1>here that why did I look like?

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<v Speaker 4>Who am I? What am I doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the denture problem, it looked like he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have his dentures incorrectly, he looked scared to death. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I asked about Tianaman Square, which of course he

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<v Speaker 1>lied about. If I was in or around Tianneman Square

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<v Speaker 1>when the tanks went up against that, dude, I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>forget that.

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<v Speaker 4>But he flatly lied about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the answer was, well, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>born in Nebraska and I was riding my bike when

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<v Speaker 1>the lights went on, had to go home. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Nebraska kind of a guy. I was born in a ditch.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to lick water from puddles in a ditch.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I came from. He never answered the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like he channeled Kamala Harris saying, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in the middle class family. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're gonna see how much he uses that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>then he does this whole thing on a knucklehead. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when he was asked in the Dana Bash interview

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<v Speaker 2>month ago, they were like he said, well, I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't have good grammar, like what, oh, I'm a knucklehead,

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<v Speaker 2>like Scott Jennings on CNN last night was like his

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<v Speaker 2>excuses basically to come down to, well, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Too dumb you guys to like know.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I was like, I mean, yes, we can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about how Donald Trump and dullish is in yes, lies.

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<v Speaker 2>But the idea then that we're not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talk about or we're not allowed to talk about how

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<v Speaker 2>other candidates the Democratic ticket has both candidates have huge

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<v Speaker 2>holes in the resumes is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I think actually it would give the media

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<v Speaker 3>a lot more credibility if they were willing to fact

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<v Speaker 3>check and really dig into the resumes of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 3>But they are so scared lists of their own audience

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<v Speaker 3>that they would be seen as both sides ing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do that, you can't be fair and independentalizing. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have in your column, which is really you

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<v Speaker 1>brought the receipts you have quotes. Vans has been described

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<v Speaker 1>as quote weird, dangerous, anti woman who believes the supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>of whiteness and masculinity.

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<v Speaker 4>Where the hell did that come from? JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance is about the supremacy of whiteness and masculinity, who

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<v Speaker 1>said that.

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<v Speaker 4>This is just a grab bag like a wet we

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<v Speaker 4>got this, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Got this, and uh, you know JD Vance's this and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump and his campaign are the ones that need

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<v Speaker 2>to tone down the rhetoric after Donald Trump got shot

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<v Speaker 2>in the head, like what are you talking about? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that was Margaret Brennan also lobbying that nonsense as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So going into debate, we knew exactly what was going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen here. David Muir and Lindsay Davis Namcy debate,

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<v Speaker 2>their fact checking was much more scripted. They admitted to

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<v Speaker 2>this afterward. David muore is said many places, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>a very smart man. He's kind of Ron Burgundy of

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<v Speaker 2>news anchors. His center structure is an offense to preschoolers,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas Nora Donnell and Margaret Brennan are a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more condescending in their fact checking. Like jad Vance would

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<v Speaker 2>finish an answer and then they would state whatever godby

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<v Speaker 2>Book they wanted to say, but they didn't direct it advanced.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't say, well, Senator Vance, blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>They just set it all smug and moved on. And

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<v Speaker 2>if like your vance, you're like, what a simple a

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<v Speaker 2>simple note would have been sufficient.

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<v Speaker 1>Curtis Halkov, the Media Research Center, NewsBusters. You also have

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<v Speaker 1>something posted from a CBS correspondent who said Tim Waltz

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<v Speaker 1>is an attack dog, but he's so joyful and jolly

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<v Speaker 1>as he bites. I'm thinking the marshmallow Man, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm thinking about the Ghostbusters.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the marshmallow Man.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an attack dog, but he's so joyful and jolly

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<v Speaker 1>when he bites.

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<v Speaker 2>That he's joyful stab you to death.

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<v Speaker 4>This is like what what.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you wonder if these journalists sometimes are there's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>is this a mad libs exercise for some of these people, Like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna pull an.

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<v Speaker 4>Sat word out of here so I can like seem

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm really smart and.

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<v Speaker 2>Going after Republicans, or I'm gonna create some crude analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you just feel like they do in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these production meetings. They just wonder because they

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<v Speaker 2>say the same thing every day, so they realize that

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna say, we got to talk about our hate

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<v Speaker 2>for Republicans differently, and and that's really what I think

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<v Speaker 2>it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 1>And how about this one, Rachel Maddow, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>My executive producer is Tony Benner. He often tells me

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<v Speaker 1>how much he loves Rachel Maddow and Rachel Maddow smeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Jdvans is a fascist speech squasher. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>a fascist speech squasher is, but that's what Rachel Mannow said.

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<v Speaker 1>Jad Advance is a fascist speech squasher.

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<v Speaker 4>What the hell's that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that? Doesn't even mean? They pointed out how

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<v Speaker 2>he's like he's his attacks on liberal academia put him

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<v Speaker 2>in the same like realm as, like Nazis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Jadie Vance, Yes he's a speech squasher. Well do

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<v Speaker 1>you think somehow you know? One thing I've noticed, and

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<v Speaker 1>Curtis howk you're a great observer of the political scene,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the Democrat liberals have wonderfully phrased the abortion

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<v Speaker 1>arguments quote reproductive freedom, and they talk about the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five manifesto that the candidates have rejected that talks

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<v Speaker 1>about a registry when you get pregnant, that women must

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<v Speaker 1>line up in the handmade tail and you gotta line up.

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<v Speaker 4>And say I missed my period.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed my period, and there will be a federal

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<v Speaker 1>registry kept for women who missed their period. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>stop headed up by Jdvans to show up your door

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<v Speaker 1>to see how far along you are with your pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're going to monitor the pregnancy, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 4>Does anyone but would anyone believe this?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>And the thing is even CNN Daniel Dale, the snibbling

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<v Speaker 2>Like like, that's not quite it. And this is why

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<v Speaker 2>the left is so insidious. Bill, You have to connect

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<v Speaker 2>it to the previous discussion about Rachel Manow and dvance

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<v Speaker 2>and academia. They sometimes go on these long benders where

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<v Speaker 2>they just kind of weave and wave and they try

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<v Speaker 2>to make all these historical connections and comparisons, so they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just muddy the waters. So that because they

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<v Speaker 2>seem really smart and they had a lot of words

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<v Speaker 2>behind it, like that means it must be true. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And they do this with Project twenty twenty five in abortion,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not true at all. It has to do

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<v Speaker 2>with simply submitting anonymous pregnancy data and miscarriage data that

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<v Speaker 2>would be submitted to AHHS and all states actual a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of states actually do this apparently, or some of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's required. So that's if it's already happening. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we already live in Handmaid's tale world.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, you know, I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the liberals have correctly from their perspective, define abortion

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<v Speaker 1>as reproductive freedom. Less than one percent of abortions care

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<v Speaker 1>or health is healthcare. To kill a baby, that's healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not healthcare to the baby. It's just the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of healthcare. And when you bring up the factor, well,

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<v Speaker 1>at what point between zero and forty weeks would it

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<v Speaker 1>be wrong for a woman a mother, By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>women have babies or not men, I'm wrong for a

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<v Speaker 1>woman a mother to kill a unborn baby is seven

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<v Speaker 1>month or eighth month. The first thing out of the

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<v Speaker 4>But it does. Every year.

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<v Speaker 1>There's about six to seven thousand abortions have healthy babies

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<v Speaker 1>after six months, which is six to seven thousand lives

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<v Speaker 1>snuffed out. And the second thing about that is this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Born alive is not a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the Democrats in Congress vetoed the other day

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<v Speaker 1>at an action that said if a baby happens to

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<v Speaker 1>must use reasonable medical care to save the baby's life

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<v Speaker 1>that he just tried to kill. But the Democrats don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that because they want to have abortion

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<v Speaker 1>through forty weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Jennings brought this up on CNN last night. During

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<v Speaker 2>Kim Wall's tenure as governor, state data from the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Health has revealed that there have been eight

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<v Speaker 2>deaths of infants who survived abortion attempts. Now, under the

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota abortion law, doctors are under no requirement or oath

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<v Speaker 2>to administer care to any child that survives abortion. And

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<v Speaker 2>he brought the up last night and the liberal panel,

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<v Speaker 2>David Axerod fake Republican Melissa Fara Griffin, and a former

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<v Speaker 2>Obama official along with that Axerrod Ashley Allison all completely

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<v Speaker 2>lost their minds talking about, Oh, do you think this

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<v Speaker 2>is complicated? You know, these children were probably headed for

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<v Speaker 2>really tough lives and it's no one's business. It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be anyone's business what women do to their babies. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just really gruesome stuff. And at the end, Scott said,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to speak up for the babies. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and then he also brought up the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>government controlling your bodies. What the hell happened during COVID vaccine,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't the government and corporate amer say I control your

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<v Speaker 1>body and you will get the injection whether you're liking

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<v Speaker 4>You can't leave your house.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't want to control your body though. Reproductive freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>my butt. It's it's all about. And the vaccine had

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<v Speaker 1>to be done large employers. You can't leave your home,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't go to church. We're gonna put in Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>the governor Kentucky Basher put cops at the entryway of

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<v Speaker 1>churches as he kept over from strip clubs and liquor stores.

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<v Speaker 4>But guess what, we don't control your body.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable, Yeah, unbelievable. It's healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>It is care.

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<v Speaker 2>There's caring, kill killing what it really growth.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, Rachel Medow tied jd Vance to a series of

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<v Speaker 1>anti Semitican fascist revolutionaries who want at the universities destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties and forties because they spread communist ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy from Middletown, Ohio, who went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps so he had the GI bill to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Ohives. Date Dan Yale is somehow tied to destroying universities.

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<v Speaker 1>So if the truth doesn't work, make something up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, less than one percent of Harvard faculty identify as conservative.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you think that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>See, this is a thing. Left doesn't think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>problem because they believe they aren't on the side of truth.

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<v Speaker 2>So if there is an ideological imbalance, they say too bad,

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<v Speaker 2>because the right lies so much anyway, they think the

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<v Speaker 2>bias is not only happening, it is good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like with abortion.

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<v Speaker 2>They're now at the point with late term abortions where

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<v Speaker 2>they're not denying it's happening, and in fact they're going

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<v Speaker 2>With vance, you just make the she just made this

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<v Speaker 2>insane comparison when literally all he said is said, here's

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<v Speaker 2>one quote that she took issue with. The universities do

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<v Speaker 2>not pursue knowledge and truth. They pursue deceit and lies,

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, CNN panel loses it when lonely Scott Jennings mentions

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<v Speaker 1>abortion survivors left that die in Minnesota, and because he

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<v Speaker 1>was so accurate, that panel had to shout him down immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>including pro choice so called Republican Elisa Farren, Griffin, David

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<v Speaker 1>axlerod Asley Allison. They exploded the idea that abortion kills

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<v Speaker 1>unborn babies that are generally healthy, and they could not

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<v Speaker 1>allow that thought to get out there, could they?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, absolutely not. I mean, Scott brings the facts

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<v Speaker 2>on CNN on a daily basis. You see how uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 2>they get when he just merely brings up very basic facts.

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<v Speaker 2>What's funny was Yeah, Lisa Farrow was like, where did

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<v Speaker 2>you get that?

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<v Speaker 4>He said from Minnesota Department of Health? True?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I say, I said, yeah, I just said

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<v Speaker 2>it was a department of Health.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh boy, some maga blog.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Well, lastly, I said to a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine that I hope this is the last debate. And

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump does not do well in debates. His policies work,

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<v Speaker 1>his debating tactics do not. Would you agree with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Curtis Halk of the media research centernewsbusters dot org that

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<v Speaker 1>this needs to be the last debate because many states

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<v Speaker 1>are voting. In fact, I'm going to vote next week absentee,

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<v Speaker 1>which is stupid. We should vote for four days before

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<v Speaker 1>the election.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, would you encourage Donald trum to know his role,

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<v Speaker 1>shut his mouth, go to the rallies and get elected president.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's exactly right to not want to

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<v Speaker 2>participate in a debate right now. ABC can be all

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<v Speaker 2>stark and condescending like they were this morning. Rachel Scott said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he debated in late October in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you can say in retrospect that was the wrong idea

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<v Speaker 2>because you exactly write states. There are states where people

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<v Speaker 2>have been able to vote for multiple weeks at this

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<v Speaker 2>point in early voting. So that's why having debates in

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<v Speaker 2>like June is such a better idea. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>have the debates before people can actually vote. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think Katie Vance was just so polished. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the strongest debate performances by a Republican

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<v Speaker 2>in quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing close to it is when Billy Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton A nineteen ninety two approached the camera and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I can feel your pain and also your daughter's chest.

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<v Speaker 1>But I added that little part. I added that field.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can feel your pain.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we'll go down like Stockdale. You know that

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<v Speaker 2>was Who am I?

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<v Speaker 4>Why am I here?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 4>Give me my dress? Let me get them?

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<v Speaker 1>This is beautiful but great website, NewsBusters dot Org. Curtis Hawck,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham

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<v Speaker 1>Show and breaking down last night's great debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Always a pleasure, Bill, Go Bangals. Hopefully we can keep

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<v Speaker 3>it rolling on Sunday, hopefully, you know, kind of right,

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<v Speaker 3>the ship, well.

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<v Speaker 4>The Ravens look pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a pretty good rushing attack, and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>defense is like the magine O line in nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>when the Nazis went around it.

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<v Speaker 4>But nonetheless, we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. All right, Curtis Halck, You're a great American, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Curtis. Carry on, folks, God bless America.

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