WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:04.599 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:09.960 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services Insure 3 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:14.679 your most Prized possessionets. 4 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:15.960 Hey, good actor, younon everybody. Welcome to you Eye on 5 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:19.800 the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, Yo, 6 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:22.640 mister Quinn. I am Mike Quinn. Good to see you. 7 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:22.879 Mike. 8 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:25.679 It's good to be back. And I got fired last week. 9 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:28.079 You did well. We had important stuff to talk about. 10 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:30.480 Yeah, it's think it was an important show and so 11 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:32.520 I didn't get invited. You did not make the important 12 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:36.520 list exactly. But my guys Want and Ray are back 13 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:38.799 for that. Were ever hear for the important day. But 14 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:40.920 the hell was important. Oh it was a passion of 15 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:44.200 Cedric Dempsey. Yeah, that's a big deal that continues to 16 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:44.640 be Yes. 17 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.920 I'm assuming they're going to have something here sometime this 18 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.799 summer to pay tributes to him and what he did. 19 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:54.560 You were student when he was here, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 20 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:57.479 yeah powerful. So it wasn't enough to get me invited 21 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:58.600 to the show, but it was. 22 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:04.400 I gotta come with more game than that. Smart like that. 23 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.120 A lot of stuff went on. So I haven't been 24 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:09.599 on since Wednesday, had an assignment in Scott's Stale for 25 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:11.799 four days. Uh So a lot of things have gone 26 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:14.760 on when we were here last guys, because it broke 27 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:18.239 the Burke that she was going to be the at 28 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:20.799 the end end of the show, I think. And there's 29 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:25.560 been a press conference since introductions, her family all that. 30 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:28.719 You went to the press conference. I saw the press conference. One, 31 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:33.879 what were your impressions of her? She looks ready, She's 32 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:37.480 very excited about the opportunity. This is her biggest level 33 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:40.719 that she's been at. And one I would say with 34 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:44.680 high expectations given recent history. You know, four years or 35 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:46.760 four or five years ago, Arizona was in the national 36 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:50.599 championship game and that that and that's what she talked 37 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:54.319 about her and Desiree refrancois one of the first questions 38 00:01:54.359 --> 00:01:55.879 she asked and the main questions she asked. Where do 39 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.920 you see this program in two three years? Desiree said, 40 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:03.760 playing for now championships or defending national championships at that point. 41 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:07.920 So expectations are high for Burke. Sure. Let me ask you, 42 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:12.120 mister Mike, so you you in your business of time 43 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:14.800 or two I know you're teaching out you or an instructor. Uh, 44 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:17.080 did you hire and fire people? 45 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:18.520 Yeah? 46 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:21.240 I mean a different So do you give them that? 47 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:22.919 What do you hope to be in five years? 48 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:24.479 No? 49 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:27.919 Because why it's just what's the purpose? Yeah? 50 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:30.479 I mean it's like, well one, it's many times it's 51 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.360 a trick question because it's like when you don't know 52 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.360 where the organ how the organization set up for this, 53 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:37.199 It's like, where do you expect to be in five years? 54 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:38.840 What are they going to answer? Yeah? 55 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:40.759 What's the you know, it's like, wow, I expect to 56 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:44.319 be fired and working for somebody else, you know, I'm 57 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:47.840 hoping for a better Actually ask me the questions. Yeah, 58 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:48.879 what are you where are you going to be in 59 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:51.879 five years? I hope to have your job? Yeah, hope 60 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:52.800 to have your jobs. 61 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:55.000 What do you mean? He says, Well, by that time 62 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:58.280 you'll be sitting by the beach and having sodas. You're 63 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.400 gonna read on tiring and do that. Yeh yeah, you 64 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:03.159 have your job. Well, what's the wrong there's no wronger? 65 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:03.680 Right answer? 66 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:03.879 Right? 67 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:05.439 Of course you're going to say I want to win 68 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:10.120 a title in two three years? Is that realistic? Realistic? 69 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.319 Look up the word if you don't know what it is. Yeah, 70 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:16.400 I don't believe. So. I think if they're if they're 71 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.439 competitive and there, I think they're going to be committed. 72 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.280 I like, I do turn what she's saying, and I 73 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.879 think it's a Arizona is a good destination. 74 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:27.520 Mm hmmmm hmmm. I think it's going to be a 75 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:29.800 good higher. She was impressive to me. Did you see 76 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.759 the press company? No, she was impressive to me physically 77 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.400 and what she said. Her backstory is fantastic, right. Uh, 78 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.360 she didn't want to be given given anything. She's worked 79 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:41.199 hard for it. Obviously she's been all over the place. 80 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:41.879 Uh. 81 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:44.759 So we'll talk about her more. But is that what 82 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:46.639 you came away with? Did you? Were you there after 83 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:48.599 the press conference where they kind of lingered and talked 84 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.360 more to her very little. I didn't get the chance, 85 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.080 because that's when you get this true, that's when you 86 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:56.759 get the other good stuff, the real Yea Becky Burke, right. 87 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.840 I haven't got that chance yet. I hope to have 88 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:03.360 her on the show here at some point. But impressive. 89 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.479 Did say she seems authentic. How old is she? 90 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:08.919 I have no idea forty thirty five? Also, she was 91 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.400 younger than I thought, forty years oloter just I say older, 92 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:12.879 because she's been all over the place. 93 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:14.919 Yeah, I was gonna say, I really think this is 94 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:17.560 a good hire. I mean it's a young coach with 95 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:19.480 a lot of experience, a lot of energy. 96 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.920 Idea was a good recruiter. She was a no question, 97 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:30.399 pretty bad retainer. No, no, no, to be fair, exactly, 98 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.120 to be fair, that's exactly true. 99 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.319 Yeah, yeah, she was a great recruiter, poor retainer. I 100 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:41.160 think that this we can recruit to the universe Arizona. 101 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:42.839 So to both of you, especially to you one, because 102 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.360 I know you're kind of out there in the internet world. 103 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:49.199 So people who listen and watch watch the games for 104 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:52.160 the women's team and the men's game. So she so 105 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.040 ideas leaving or whatever is who are going to get? Right, 106 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:57.240 Who are going to get? Who we're going to get? 107 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:00.240 There's always someone else you're gonna get. Look at when 108 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.360 Sean left, Sean left or got fired. Now what we're 109 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:06.519 gonna get? Oh the world is gonna fall? Yeah, and 110 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:11.439 everything turned out fine. Sure, So typically everything turns out fine, right, 111 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.759 Arizona's a good destination. They had very good candidates apply 112 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.120 for this job, so it wasn't like that they were 113 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:21.680 short on people like wanting to wanting to work here. Yuh, 114 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.800 so you're gonna get quality. Yeah, you noticed her salary. 115 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.360 I did six sixty five around there, sixt sixty five, 116 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:31.720 about seven hundred thousand less than then idea, which of 117 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.920 course means the program of saving money, and that's about 118 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:35.759 the right wheelhouse. 119 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:38.879 Yeah, that's I mean, that's a legitimate I mean, now 120 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:42.720 come here, do something, you know, get a get a 121 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:46.399 national championship in two or three years. Yeah, okay, then 122 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.639 we're going to talk about renegotiating sure contract. 123 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:48.920 Sure. 124 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:52.000 Well, look at look at how Adia made hers timing 125 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.319 and circumstances. Yeah. I don't know what she was making 126 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.480 before she made one point one or one point two, 127 00:05:56.600 --> 00:06:00.000 but it was a time of crisis. I think COVID time, right, 128 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.439 COVID times, with the chance that she might go to 129 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:05.959 Baylor make a lot of money, and the darling of 130 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.040 the program right at the time, and you don't want 131 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:11.240 to lose her. So what do you have to do? 132 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.920 You pay her? Yeah, in a desperate move to keep her, 133 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:17.360 you pay her timing and circumstances right, right, Although the 134 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:22.040 level of payment didn't equal the success afterward, right, I mean, well, 135 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:26.480 you certainly pay for path performance, which doesn't guarantee future performance. Well, 136 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:28.240 look at you. I like that. Yeah, there you go. 137 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:31.240 You've been studying something, but he's trying to prove his 138 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:32.360 point for important days. 139 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.240 Exactly some day I'll invite it to the big show. 140 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.879 But you're exactly right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's it. 141 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:43.160 I mean you we thought that we caught lightning in 142 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:45.600 a bottle when they went to the one to the 143 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:48.480 final four, and it turns out that we had a 144 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.720 good player. And then it turns out that we started 145 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:57.240 letting good players go. Yeah, and you know, circumstances happened. 146 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:01.199 She certainly didn't live up to the expectations that we had, 147 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.360 which were very high. 148 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.639 Yeah, and here's here's the other issue. And I think 149 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:10.160 a lot of ad I think she's a good, good coach, 150 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:14.040 like a good recruiter, not a good retainer. I know 151 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:15.759 we're not up on a personal level, but you know, 152 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:19.160 we've talked before. I did a story for Bistus on 153 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:22.639 our magazine story. But the way she went out the 154 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:26.560 door was kind of troubling. You talked about the interview 155 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:28.920 with Dallas right on the radio or whatever it was 156 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:32.199 on the side and kind of criticizing some some coaches, 157 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:34.759 you know, the mid mid level coaches. Well she kind 158 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.639 of started that way, but not really, not even at 159 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:38.480 that level. She was not a coach at all, or 160 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:42.199 she was, she was a assistant coach. Yeah, but you know, 161 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.279 I hate to beat the state horse because we'll talk 162 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:47.079 a little bit more about it with lev because he 163 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.040 knew more because he spoke to her, spoke to the principles. 164 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:52.560 I'm sure they went off the record on a number 165 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.199 of things. Uh, so we there's always more to the story. 166 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.439 Well, she can't fortunate in getting this head coaching job, 167 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.000 I mean with with Arizona, you know, and she did 168 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.000 because she was a great player and she was yeah here, 169 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.800 and so it's like, okay, she was a good assistant. Okay, hey, 170 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.600 we're gonna take this chance on her being a good 171 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:16.279 head coach. Did she skip over her mid major time? 172 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:17.079 Yes? Yeah. 173 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:21.199 Did she consider herself fortunate for that? No, she thought 174 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:25.800 she was just blessed, which is different. Okay, true, probably 175 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:27.720 that's a good one. You're probably right. 176 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.000 And then timing circumstances gave her the chance to have 177 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:35.159 this great ride convince the people that go, which was amazing. Hey, 178 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:37.480 if I'm what's her legacy? 179 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:41.679 Do you know what her legacy would be the fact 180 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:43.679 that she went took her team to the phone floor, 181 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:48.600 But then I think she couldn't keep anybody good players here. 182 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:53.120 She should be considered probably and possibly the best women's 183 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:54.759 basketball coach in Arizona. 184 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:58.679 Yes, yes, I think her and her former coach will 185 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:00.919 go one one A, one B. 186 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.840 This is kind of similar to the way Jed Fish 187 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.879 went out. Realistically, Jetfish has one of the greatest seasons 188 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:11.639 and Arizona football history correct that that maybe that season 189 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.240 is not going to be remembered as much because of 190 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:15.639 the way the Fish left in the way it turned 191 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:16.720 out last season. 192 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.799 What was his legacy, I don't know, turning turning the 193 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:23.600 program around. I think three years. 194 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:28.039 Yeah, maybe even two and a half if you if 195 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:30.120 you want to count that first one with COVID and 196 00:09:30.759 --> 00:09:31.960 different era two to half. 197 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.759 And then half of the half. I mean, he got 198 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:38.600 tim in circumstances given that the quarterback, uh Delora kind 199 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.120 of face flamed out with the injury, and then yeah, 200 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:42.000 that's that's the thing. 201 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:44.840 It's like, you know, if he doesn't get injured, does 202 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:48.039 he you know, do we have that great season or 203 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:49.799 do we stick with Delora. 204 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:53.679 So okay, we'll talk more about all that stuff later, 205 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:59.600 especially the the the Idea Barnes thing. Basketball continues to do. Okay, right, 206 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:02.480 they get or the recruits from last week. We saw 207 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:05.919 that Monday or Tuesday or whatever it was, and then 208 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:09.120 and then people are coming back. Uh, there must be 209 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.200 finding some money to pay these guys with who I'm 210 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:14.799 gonna take some of your stuff, but you can go 211 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.840 back with it later. But the orso coming back with 212 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:20.639 Bradley coming back walk out last week. I plus I 213 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:22.639 said that he was coming back. So the some of 214 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:26.559 the main pieces are coming back. Yeah, they just need 215 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:30.399 they just need h Carter Bryant to come back. Yeah 216 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:34.519 that that that would definitely be good. Uh good for us. 217 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:37.159 I mean we got these we got these great recruits 218 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.519 that are coming in, you know, top recruits, you know, 219 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.200 one of the top recruiting classes. 220 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:42.360 You know, it's really funny. 221 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.320 These guys are like, oh, you know, coach Lloyd is 222 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:47.960 so wonderful Coach Lloyd, and you're not coming here for 223 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.120 Coach Lloyd. You're coming here for Ben Franklin. Okay, Uh yeah, 224 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.120 so don't you know, don't tell me how greatly your. 225 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.960 Coaches for scring Yes, I did exactly. 226 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.559 We know why you're coming here. Yeah, they well I 227 00:11:03.639 --> 00:11:05.759 think they yd. I mean, Lloyd Is is a good 228 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.440 recruiter and you know it is a pretty good coach. 229 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.799 Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, nobody just prove that this year. 230 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:13.320 If you're gonna get paid, why not enjoy your life 231 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:14.639 at the place you're gonna get paid. 232 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:16.840 Yeah, and you know absolutely, I mean they're you know, 233 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:18.600 you're not going to play for some you know, bug 234 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.639 tussle tack, right, even if they can come up with 235 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:23.559 the cash. You know, uh, some of these guys you know, 236 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:25.559 are actually interested in winning. 237 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.559 Right. Well, we'll go to that. The Tennessee quarterback. We 238 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:30.360 talked a little about it off there there. Well, we'll 239 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:32.440 talk about that for the for your breaking news, because 240 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:35.440 we both have opinions on that, sure and probably the 241 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.840 likelihood of that continue to happen. Being held hostage. Okay, 242 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:41.879 for our first hour, we're gonna have a gymnastics coach, 243 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.120 John Court. They had a pretty good not a pretty good, 244 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:47.320 very good yeah season this year in the postseason, so 245 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.440 we'll talk to him about it. He's been headed this 246 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:52.720 direction for a while now. Every year getting better and better. 247 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:55.679 So he'll be at three seventeen to honor that team. 248 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:57.639 And then at four to seventeen we're going to have 249 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.399 mister Michael lev who's been in the middle of all this, 250 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.840 the women's basketball, the men's basketball stuff, the baseball team 251 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.879 that's riding right now. So two things. 252 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.320 One, just to go back to Burke's introductory press conference. 253 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:13.840 One thing I did like if. 254 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.559 I was an Arizona fan and I am on the side, 255 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.799 is her mindset of twenty four to seven, three sixty five. 256 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:21.200 Yeah. 257 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:25.440 Or she talked about how players if the jersey practice 258 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:28.000 jersey and tuck, She'll tell him there's no days off. 259 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:30.559 She's not going to slack off one day, but then 260 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:32.919 be hard on it the next day. It's it's twenty 261 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:34.720 four to seven, three sixty five. 262 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:35.279 Yeah. 263 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:37.120 And the other thing I want to be up is 264 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.960 Arizona baseball. I believe Saturday for the game, right, crazy 265 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:43.000 crazy stuff happened? 266 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:47.000 Yeah right, yeah? Pretty were you there? I was not. Okay, 267 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:50.720 I saw the video I saw do we know what happened? 268 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.960 Like to go ahead, Brian said that Brian Peterson, one 269 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:57.759 of the my boss at Asy doesn't Swarm, said that 270 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.600 one of them had a dislocated shoulder and the other 271 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:01.559 one had back injury. 272 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:03.879 Yeah, they felt pretty hard, obviously they did. 273 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:05.840 In the video it looks like one of them both 274 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.080 almost both of them broke their legs, but I guess not. 275 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.840 Yeah, they didn't didn't come down very well. No, no, 276 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:12.679 I wondered how long the delay was. It had to 277 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:14.600 be some kind of I think it was half an 278 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:17.240 hour to forty minutes. Oh really, yeah, yeah, I had 279 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:19.759 heard it over the over the internet whatever, and then 280 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.840 I saw the video and I said, wow, they're surprise. 281 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:24.000 That doesn't happen more often. 282 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:28.519 Well, I think they rarely jump in that kind of wind, 283 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:31.120 you know, And yeah, it was windy, and and then 284 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.399 and that's what happened. You know, Oh you see it 285 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:35.600 in your past life. Oh sure, yeah. I mean they 286 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:37.360 you know, they jump into every Army game. I mean 287 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.399 it's like, you know, Army Navy game. They're jumping in. 288 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.679 I know a lot of guys that that do that stuff. 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