Speaker 1: Welcome to political beatdown.
Speaker 2: I'm Ben mysel Is, joined by the one and only
in a little bit well rested Michael Cole vacation, although
he graced us with his presence while at vacation.
Speaker 3: Thanks for doing that, Michael Cone. We've got a lot
to discuss from Donald Trump being scheduled to surrender this
week in Fulton County after the Rico criminal case was
brought last week? Did Donald Trump already violate the conditions
of his consent bond order with the threats and attacks
he made at Fulton County District Attorney Forni Willis last night,
a mere two three hours after the consent order was
entered in the first place. Also, moments before we went live,
Donald Trump's former chief of staff and co defendant in
the Rico case, Mark Meadows, filed an emergency motion in
with the federal court where he's trying to remove the
case before the judge even has fully accepted jurisdiction, begging
the judge to stop him from being arrested before August
twenty fifth. We'll talk about what's going on there.
Speaker 4: Also, Maxwell Aday to which, by the way, happens to
be my birthday, so you know, my hope, my hope,
my hope is that that's the day that Donald ends up,
not on Thursday, but on Friday, that he goes and
that would be the greatest birthday gift I could ever get.
Speaker 3: Keep going, well, Fannie Willis, if you're Trump said Russia,
if you're listening, as Fannie Willis, if you're listening, Cohen's
birthday is August twenty fifth, do it on that date. Also,
Maga Republicans are threatening to shut down the government unless
the prosecutions against Donald Trump and January.
Speaker 1: Six ers stop.
Speaker 3: And also they want woke policies to stop, whatever the
heck that means. Also, the Trump propaganda media continues down
its desperate path of destruction. We'll talk about that and
more here on Political Beatdown. But Cohen, I want to
hear about your cases, the case that Donald Trump filed
against you in federal court in the Southern District of Florida.
Last we left, we knew that there was a deposition
that was scheduled. You broke the news here I see
right there the headline. But you broke the news here
on Political Beatdown that it was scheduled for September sixth.
There was briefing on the scope and Donald Trump wanting
a protective order and not wanting to be asked certain questions.
Trump was saying, and his lawyers were saying, that it
would be embarrassing for him. He was going to invoke
the fifth even though it's a case where he sued you.
So where are we at, Cohen.
Speaker 1: Well, we're all crying for the victim of the day.
I mean, it's an absolute joke that he thinks he
has the ability to tell my counsel what questions they
can and they cannot ask. I mean, that is just insane. Now,
I will say that the judge correctly turned around and
said that there are certain things that you can ask.
But if you start going deeper than what is necessary
in order to prove your case, prove the defense of
your case, he goes, then I'm going to have to
intercede and so on. Now, look between Ben Brodsky, my
lawyer down Florida, and Donia Perry, my lawyer here in
New York, we will not go past what is necessary.
He makes very specific allegations against me. Now those allegations
become broad in terms of scope for damages, which is
what he's asking for by suing for five hundred million dollars.
I have every right to defend myself to our fullest capability,
and he will ultimately have to answer, my opinion, virtually
all of the questions, if not all of the questions
that will be posed to him during his time under
oath for this sit down deposition. Now, of course, he
also wants that gag. Doesn't want anybody to see it,
you know, And I understand that because Donald Trump is
possibly one of the worst people to have as a
client when being deposed, because he doesn't care about the truth.
And that's the problem when you're doing a deposition, you
are under oath. So it's telling somebody who is an
habitual liar and who really doesn't remember half the stuff
because it's so blurred in his mind, because he doesn't
remember what's true, what's not true, what's real, and what's
fantasy land. So keeping stuff straight is very difficult for him,
and he'll always try to give an answer which casts
him in the greatest light. That's not going to happen
again with Donia Perry and Ben Brodsky at the deposition,
So my belief and according to the judge, he is
not going to be able to this is You can
look this up. It's on NBC or Law three sixty.
You could take a look where they really go into
a tremendous analysis of the hearing that took place. The
judge is not going to allow him to start claiming
the Fifth Amendment to answer, you know, questions, and if
in fact that that happens, the judge basically warned his attorney,
Alejandro Brido, that you will be treading on very uncomfortable grounds.
So I'm excited for it, and I can tell you
that both Donya and Ben Brodsky are very excited for
this deposition as well well.
Speaker 3: In this five hundred million dollar federal lawsuit that Trub
filed against you, as you state, it is very broadly
pled by him, and he accuses you of spreading falsehoods
about him. And this program is cited that Might's touch
a Network decided Maya Kulpa is cited. Your book is
cited as places where you've spread falsehoods, So you need
to defend yourself. He's seeking five hundred million dollars, so
I would anticipate that your lawyers would be saying, okay, here,
you've alleged in this federal lawsuit that Michael Cohen is
spreading falsehoods? Is that correct? And Donald Trump will say, oh,
that's correct. Okay, Well, please state all of the falsehoods
that you alleged that he's made about you. Objection overbroad,
you may answer the question. Answer the question, please state
all of the falsehoods, and then your lawyers.
Speaker 1: I would ask a little bit different. I would say, Donald,
how many falsehoods do you believe mister Cohen has state?
You know, mister Cohn has said about you? And then
he'll turn around and he'll say, I don't know, it's
a lot. Okay. Is it more than ten? Yes, definitely?
Is it more than twenty? Right? Is it more than fifty?
Is it more than one hundred? And then we'll start
to break it down, you know, into that. I mean,
that's just how I see something like this, you know,
happening where right now, with the part where we're going
through the entire as you said, you know, eighty page
a plus document here and you know, pulling out a
bunch of the allegations, many of which are either I mean,
this is the craziest party either barred by the statute
of limitations or they're just completely inaccurate in and of themselves.
And the defense, of course to defamation, even though Donald
doesn't plead defamation, which was smart on his lawyer's behalf.
But the defense to it, as we all know, is veracity.
It's the truth. So you know, it's the whole thing
is really crazy. All I can do is thank everybody
for being a part of this aspect of my life,
this part of the journey in terms of holding Donald accountable.
And I wish he didn't, to be very honest with you,
I wish he didn't bring the lawsuit, and not because
I don't believe that the case will be dismissed. Hey, Ben,
let me ask you this, and I want to ask
this to the brigaders. So to the brigades, let's let's
do a little something, a little interactive. If you believe
that Donald Trump will show up to the deposition on
September six, do a thumbs up. If you don't believe,
which I don't believe that he's going to show up
on September six, he's going to try to delay it
because that's part of the game. Hit the Michael Cohen emoji,
and I want to just see what people are thinking here.
I personally don't believe that he is going to show
up on September sixth. Nothing good can come out of
this for him, because let's not forget October. We have
the New York Attorney General case which is taking place,
you know here in New York. It's a civil matter,
but this matter is going against him and his company
for a multitude of crimes alleged by the New York
Age are unsinkable Tiss James, which I do believe that
I am going to be and I have no reason
to believe other than you know, I was deposed by
Trump's council not too long ago, so I do believe
that I will be a key witness in that case
as well, which once again I wish that I wasn't.
You know, people think that this is fun. This is
not fun. And I can tell you that his counsel here,
as his counsel will in Florida. On cross examination, They're
just going to attack me, no different than the Republicans
attacked me during my various different Congressional committee hearings. It's uncomfortable.
I'm used to it, I'm prepared for it. It's not fun.
It's not pleasant, but it's necessary. And I want to
thank all the Brigaders again, you know, for being a
part of my life and being a part of this
journey as.
Speaker 3: A recovering litigator, now podcast host and co founder of
the Minus Touch Network. I really appreciate the strategy here
by your litigators in this case who are defending you.
And by the way, I want to give a special
thanks to all of the brigaders who have contributed to
the Legal Defense Fund that have allowed you to get
those top notch litigators. By the way, in the description
below on YouTube is where you can contribute. All that
money goes to the legal defense in the five hundred
million dollar case brought against Michael Cohen by Donald Trump.
You know, the first decision that your litigators had to
make is were they going to challenge jurisdiction in Florida
and were they going to challenge federal jurisdiction in Florida.
What that would have led to if you would have
prevailed on the jurisdictional challenge, I think you could have
would have been years of delay, as then the case
would have to get refiled in another jurisdiction that would
take time and all the while Donald Trump would be
avoiding deposition and then using the lawsuit as part of
his pr propaganda campaign. So the next decision, after deciding, okay,
we're going to stay in the Southern District of Florida,
would be what type of discovery plan should you pursue?
And there would be some lawyers who would say, you
know what, deposition is our last discovery tool. Some lawyers
would say, first, you submit your interrogatories, your requests for
production of documents, your requests for admissions, file a few
motions to compel if Donald Trump hasn't turned those over,
and then the depositions take place. But what does that
sound like?
Speaker 1: Delay?
Speaker 3: Delay, And by the time you'd have Donald Trump's deposition,
let's face it, he'd probably be in August twenty twenty four.
That's exactly what Donald Trump would want to happen. So
what your lawyers ultimately made the decision? From my evaluation,
you haven't told me any secret legal strategy. I'm just
evaluating it how I would evaluate any case. From the
perspective as someone who used to litigate in federal court
all the time, they said, you know what, We're okay
not having documents and emails and all of these things.
You know, we have the documents that exist that are
public record, we have the complaint. We don't need more
requests for production of documents at this early stage before
doing the deposition. The most important thing to do here
is to prove that this is basically a pr stunt,
frivolous case by Donald Trump. And the best way to
do that is get him under oath immediately and as
the plaintiff. If he invokes the fifth in a case
that he brought, that case gets dismissed. And because he's
accuing you, accusing you of making lies about him in
such broad generalities, your lawyers are going to be able
to get into, okay, well what are the lies, and
you'll be able to show that he engaged in this conduct.
And for those who saw the deposition and we've played
it here in the minus touch network of Trump.
Speaker 2: In the E.
Speaker 3: Gene Carol case, I could only tell you on these
issues here as well, it's going to be that times
one hundred with some of the issues being addressed here.
So that's how I think that and why I think
your lawyer's legal strategy was brilliant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it does. It works, you know, last night. Ben,
I don't know if you had a chance to see it.
I did send the clip to Salty, but there was
I was on Caitlin Collins with CNN last night, and
you know, she brought up the topic of Donald Trump
with a two hundred thousand dollars bunt that he has to,
you know, file for this surrender that's allegedly taking place
on the twenty fourth on Thursday. And while I'm sitting
there at the desk with Caitlin, it dawned on me,
Holy shit, I was given a five hundred thousand dollars bond,
And I really want our brigadors to understand the anger
that this elicits in me. I get a five hundred
thousand dollars bond for paying a porn star not to
disclose an affair and pulling Trump's mushroom pecker. That's really
what I am responsible for, as well as the lie
that I had told Congress. And it's not a multitude
of lies, it's a lie. Which was the number of
times that I claimed to have discussed fail Trump Tower
Moscow real estate project with Donald I was told and
I did I said three when the true answer was
ten and I get a half a million dollar bond
that I had to post Trump, who's trying to overturn
a free and fair election, who's putting the fucking squeeze
on Brad Raffensberger and others, the you know, Georgia secretary
of State, creating fake electors? And now you see it
with Roger Stone with this videotape. How stupid is Roger
to do that. We'll get to that shit in a second.
But I said to Caitlin, you know it's so wrong,
it's it's a head scratcher. It's ironic that I should
be I should have to do a five hundred thousand
dollars bond, and Trump is a two hundred thousand dollar bond.
When you start to compare the two together, one again
is to a porn star, not to disclose the fact
that the guy's got a mushroom pecker. Where's the other?
One is trying to overturn our democracy and a free
and fair election by installing fake electors, trying to you know,
steal documents, trying to you know, take machines officials who
were not really officials. I mean, all of this fraud
that went on. He gets a two hundred thousand dollars bond. Well, look,
I have nothing but respect for this judge, so I'm
not turning around and I'm not you know, casting any
opinion onto the number, because even if it was a
half a million, it doesn't really mean shit to Donald.
If he doesn't have the cash available, he'll raise it
from his moronic you know, maga morons, you know. So
that's not even really an issue here. It's more Judge
William HS Polly the third, the judge in my specific case,
look to do anything that he could to hurt me
because that's what I believe that he was told to do.
It's my opinion. I mean nothing my case. The sentence
on the case was so absurd based upon all of
the facts which he did not want to hear or see,
and they and the prosecutors didn't want me to be
releasing them and so on. It was very, very organized
and detailed over that forty eight hour period that Friday
night when I was told you have till Monday to
come in and to plead guilty or they're filing an
eighty page indictment against you that's going to include your wife,
all right, and in old Fantas. It's one of the
reasons I appreciate you. It's one of the reasons I
appreciate Midas touch network. It's one of the reasons I
truly and I really mean this from my heart, that
I appreciate the political beatdown brigaders because this is not
an easy journey. And you know, anybody that thinks that
this ship is fun, you know, it's not being the
attack attackee by, you know, by Donald and his maga morons.
It's never fun when they start, you know, beating you
up on you know, this social media, whether it's his
untrue Social or x or Threads or wherever else. You
know that these loonies decide that they want to attack
you on you know, when you when you have uh
when you're the recipient. And I said this on Caitlin
yesterday as well, when you somehow attract the ire of
this Mandarin Mussolini, I'm telling you it's not it's not fun.
He goes after you, he goes after your family. They
make shit up. There's repercussions that hurt your family, that
wipe your family's happiness out, your finances. They really have
this This southern district of New York guys like Tom
McKay who's now over it of some big law firm.
This guy like Nick Russe, who I think is still there.
Andrea Griswold. You know, you have a whole slew of them. Uh,
Robert Kazami who's over it. I think like Goggenheim Partners,
Jeffrey Berman over at McDermott, something like that. I mean,
this is out of control. These guys are all pulling
down now sudden figure contracts, and in their bios it's like, oh,
successfully prosecuted the biggest US case you know for the
twenty first century, you know, US versus Michael Cohen. Bullshit.
What she did is you threatened my wife, and you
knew my achilles heel, and you threaten my family, which
is my achilles heel. And at the end of the day,
there was no decision over the course of a weekend
when you have nobody to reach out to. Forgetting about
trying to reach government during the week. How about on
a weekend five point thirty you get that call from
your lawyer. Nah, this is bullshit, And you know what,
it's one of the reasons why I am literally at
I am right at the line on this congressional run,
and I swear to the brigaders you will be the
first ones to know whether or not that this thing
is going forward. But as it stands right now, I
am speaking to a lot of people who are democratic
strategists and people who really know Congress and how to
win races, and they are all gung ho for me
to do it. So this is really pumping me up
because there is so much that needs to be done
to correct the wrongs that are going on. It's why
O wourl DOJ. It's why people don't have faith in
our government any longer. And there has to be enough people,
people like Jamie Radskin, people like you know, Congressman Steve Cohen,
people like you know, Congressman what do you call it,
Dan Goldman Stein, Jamie Radskin, and so many and others
why they are so necessary in order to ensure that Congress,
despite the divisiveness that exists, are working for you and
me and not for themselves.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump was whining about the conditions of his consent,
which has stated in the title his lawyers consented to
his lawyers could have objected to it, went to a
hearing and said that these terms are inappropriate, and Judge McAfee,
who's presiding over the case, could have made a ruling
before going into the bond conditions. Let me just show
you the posts of Donald Trump whining after the consent
and bond order was issued. I believe these posts to
be a violation of the consent and bond order. Also,
it's just such a whiny, petulant child as you read
these things, and just very bizarre and dangerous. Here's what
he writes. He goes, Donald Trump posts this, the failed
District Attorney of Fulton County, Atlanta, Fawnie Willis, insisted on
a two hundred thousand dollars bond for me. I assume, therefore,
that she thought I was a quote flight risk. I'd
fly far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a
gold domed suite with Ladimir, never to be seen or
heard from again. Would I be able to take my
very understated airplane with the gold Trump affixed for all
to see. Probably not. I'd be much better off flying commercial.
I'm sure nobody would recognize me.
Speaker 1: Exclamation point.
Speaker 3: Then the other one he goes, He goes, can you
believe it? I'll be going to Atlanta, Georgia on Thursday,
to be arrested by a radical left district attorney Fawnie Willis,
who is overseeing one of the greatest murder and violent
crime disasters in American history. In my case, the trip
to Atlanta is not for murder, but for making a
perfect phone call. And he puts that in caps. She
campaigned and is continuing to campaign and raise money on this,
and he puts this in caps witch hunt. This is
in strict coordination with Crooked Joe Biden's doj It is
all about election interference. First off, there's absolutely no coordination here.
If there was coordination, that you wouldn't have indicted Mark
Meadows in the first place, which we'll talk about in a.
Speaker 1: Little bit eighteen or eighteen other co defendants. But by
the way, but Ben interestingly enough, if we're able to
go back and if Salty can find it, look at
the tweet that he put out, or i should say
the post that he put out when he was referring
to New York's Attorney General Tiss James, the exact same language.
Donald is a one trick pony. It was the same
thing which Hunt the radical she campaigned on it Basically
he says these sort of racist things. Why well, what's
the similarity between Tiss James and the similarity to Fani
District Attorney Fannie Willis. They're both women of color. They're
both black women, all right, and they're women of power
and their women who really have put the time and
the effort in in order to create an indictment that
is ironclad. So what does he do? Same bullshit, same
stupid post, same nonsense, same witch hunt language, same you know,
call to action, you know, the murder and violence. I mean,
look at the language that the guy uses. There's a
reason why he's using this language. I just want people
to understand. And when he puts murder on violence in capital,
just think about who he's appealing to. He's appealing to
these these guys with fourteenth and three brain cells, all right.
That's the problem and that's the danger of Donald J.
Speaker 3: Trump. He's appealing to people like the murderer, the terrorist
who killed the women here in California, who had the
LGBTQ plus flag. And this was an individual who was
in all of the messages, buying into all of the
Fox and Trump propaganda. We did a whole story where
we did a deep dive into the social media profile
of the terrorist who committed the murder. It's unmitas touched
right now. It is all identical talking points to the
ones that Donald Trump is putting out by the way,
Fulton County.
Speaker 1: And I would ask you just to read it just
so that I could prove my point that he's a
one trick pony. And if you can go for it, Ben.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there it is right here. I mean, this
is what it says. An interesting day spent with Attorney
General and her representatives. I strongly made my points. They
are irrefutable, and it is a case that should not
go forward. My company and overall value is far stronger
and higher than shown in the so called financial statement.
The honorable thing to do would be drop it and
spend all this time, money and energy on fighting violent
crime in New York. It would make a big difference
and show real strength and courage by the AG. By
the way, I remember that post that was right after
Donald Trump actually sat for a deposition and answered the questions,
because if he invoked the fifth that would be used
as an adverse inference against him, and by stating that
after the New York Attorney General deposition in a case
involving fraudulent financial valuations. Salty pulled that up one more time.
He admits in the post to fraudulent and phony financial
valuations by saying that the company in overall value is
actually far stronger and higher than shown in the so
called financial statements. The financial statements are supposed to be accurate,
they're not supposed to understate or overstate the finances, and
he admits to what he's being accused of.
Speaker 1: In that civil case.
Speaker 3: One thing to mention too, though, Fulton County District Attorney
Foni Willis last ran in twenty twenty, so when she
was running, it was before the January sixth insurrection and
before the crimes that are alleged in the indictment, so
she was not running on prosecuting Trump for crimes that
had not yet been committed. She actually ran as a
pretty moderate centrist person. You go back, she describes herself.
She goes, I don't view myself as like liberal per se.
I don't view myself as conservative per se. She goes,
I'm straight down the middle, law and order, no nonsense.
And we'll see That's exactly how she's been prosecuting this case.
It's how she's treating Mark Meadows as well. Go into
this consent bond order for Donald Trump, you'll see, as
you mentioned Cohen, two hundred thousand dollars in bond. But
when you get to the next section where it talks
about the conditions imposed on Donald Trump, here's where I
believe there was a violation in those posts that I read.
Here's what it says. The defendant shall perform no act
to intimidate any person known to him or her to
be a code defendant or witness in this case, or
to otherwise obstruct the administration of justice. This shall include,
but is not limited to, the following. The defendant, Donald Trump,
shall make no direct or indirect threat of any nature
against any code defendant. The defendant shall make no direct
or indirect threat of any nature against any witness CEE.
Defendant shall make no direct or indirect threat of any
nature against any victim d The defendant shall make no
direct or indirect threat of any nature against the community
like Atlanta or any property in the community an E.
The above shall include, but are not limited to, posts
on social media or reposts a post made by another
individual and social media Cohen. Those are the terms that
Trump's lawyers negotiated. So when he goes and winds about it,
how do I know his lawyers did it? Because here
on Political Beatdown and the Minus Touch Network, we look
at the documents and we're evidence based. And so the
documents say the above caption matter having come before the
court for consideration of bond and with consent of counsel
for the State of Georgia and for the defendant, the
court here by grants and order. So Donald Trump's lawyers
agreed to this, He's violating it. The question that has
to be decided though, and we see this in a
reply bree filed by Jack Smith soon is Donald Trump
actually wants to use pre trial detention as a way
to delay these proceedings. And Donald Trump cited in the
Jack Smith Washington DC case other federal January sixth cases
that took about two to three years from the date
of indictment through trial or technically through sentencing, and those
you know. And the thing with those cases is they
involved pre trial detention litigation, which takes up a lot
of time, and that causes delay. And one of the
things Special Counsel Jack Smith pointed out in his reply brief,
because he wants to set that January second, twenty twenty
four trial data is your honor. Trump's lawyers are citing
pre trial detention cases. This is not a multi defendant
pre trial detention complex case. Four counts, no pre trial detention,
one defendant in Donald Trump. That's Jack Smith's approach, and
it'll be interesting to see what Fulton County District Attorney
Fannie Willis does because Jack Smith's clearly not doing pre
trial detention because he wants the January second, twenty twenty
four trial date, realizing that I could put Trump in
prison for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, Ben is Donald is trying to pretend,
because that's what he is. He's the great pretender. He's
trying to pretend that this is nothing. He's already done
it three times, so now he's going to go to four.
He's going to get into and this bothers the living
shit out of me. And I said this once before
Tarbrigators on an earlier segment. The second that he leaves
Moron Lago or Marrollardo or whatever we want to call
that shithole. The second he leaves there with the caravan
of cars filled up with people who have no purpose
for being there other than to show that Donald has
like a little army around him of people. They get
in and the media is following him from the beginning
to the time he walks up the stairs, to the
time that he gets into the plane, to the time
that the plane takes off, to the time that the
plane lands, to the time that police escorts are there,
they shut down roads, they get him to the courthouse.
That's all that they're talking about again again, We're making
him into like a superstar. He is not a superstar.
He is not the president of the United States. He
is a former president, a now full time indicted former president,
And we are making him into like a superstar, into
some dignitary he is not. He is a He is
right now an indicted defendant. Plane and simple. And you
know what, one of the reasons why Donald is sort
of pretending, you know that this doesn't bothered him, that
he's doing it for you, that I'm all that stands
in between you and the Biden administration's weaponization of the
Justice Department is me. So all of this is bullshit.
I'll tell you something. If they turn around. They said
to him, Okay, Donald, Unfortunately, George is not like New York,
and George is not like DC. You gotta go through
the whole process. They're gonna strip you out. You're gonna
have to lift up that saggy ballsack, you have to
bend down. Cough. They're taking your clothes, your shoes, they're
gonna give you while you're sitting inside the cell, they're
gonna be giving you an orange jumpsuit. There's one big
enough for your ass, all right. If not, like everybody else,
they give it to you either way too big or
way too small. They give you a pair of shoes
that don't fit either. Then you would see him go
into panic mode. All right. He thinks he's going in there,
walking in like you know, like Caesar just conquered, you know,
a territory. He's walking in through, you know, through Rome.
That's how he's trying to portray himself. But if he
had to go through the process like everybody else, rest assured,
he'd be shitting a brick right now, screaming at his
lawyers you figure out how to get me. He would
be doing every trick in the book not to show
up there and he certainly wouldn't be running his mouth
the way he's doing it, which is in contradiction to
exactly what the judge just told him not to do.
But no different than the Egen Carol case. The idiot,
and I say it again, this fucking idiot cannot keep
his mouth shut, not for twenty four hours. No different
than the Egen Carroll case where he went on CNN
with once again Caitlyn Collins for that town Hall, opened
his mouth and started doing exactly what he was told
not to do. Because the man baby does not understand,
you know, guidelines, He doesn't understand guardrails, He doesn't understand
anything except for what he wants. He's just a big
man baby.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about very vivid, very graphic, but appropriately stated,
talk about.
Speaker 1: What it's like to get stripped out all right on
on a regular basis, especially when they had us on
the solitary side. Now on the one side where I
was originally at, which was the camp. Then you know,
then there's none of that you know that goes on.
But once you go back and forth, like if you
had to go to see the doctor across, yeah, they
you know, it's the whole process all over again and
again and again, and I don't I understand it. For
security purposes unnecessary, but nevertheless I understand it. If they
put Donald through that, I promise you he would be
paler than Kaspa the Ghost.
Speaker 3: Well, that surrender date is being negotiated. The Fulton County
Sheriffs said, not going to treat him any differently. We
will keep everybody posted when we know the specific date
and time. I also want to talk about Mark Meadows,
who is trying desperately not to have to surrender. Motion
after motion and emergency motion filed by Mark Meadows, after
filing a motion to dismiss over the weekend, after filing
a removal notice the week before that, one day after
the indictment issued. What in the world is Mark Meadow's doing?
And what in the world are these maga Republicans doing
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that they will not fund the government if the prosecutions
against Donald Trump and the insurrectionists continue and if there's
continued woke policies. I mean, this is some dangerous and
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Speaker 3: Yeah, right after the show ends, that's when the dancing begins.
So show ends, dancing starts. But speaking of dancing, Meadows
is Mark Meadows, Donald Trump's former chief of staff, is
trying to dance out of being arrested. I mean, Meadows
has filed so many documents right away, I mean the
day after the indictment on August fifteenth, he files a
removal notice to federal court right away, trying to get
the case transferred from state court to federal court, and
the federal judge is like, okay, I mean, well, well
hear your arguments. It's not frivolous on its face. So
the federal judge sets an evidentiary hearing for August twenty eighth.
Then over the weekend, I think it was Saturday evening,
you know, during the storms out here in California, I
saw Mark Meadows filed a motion to dismiss. Like you're
filing a motion to dismiss in federal court. The court
hasn't even accepted jurisdiction over it. There's a hearing on
whether the court's even going to have jurisdiction or remand it.
So you're asking a court that lacks jurisdiction to rule
on a motion to dismiss. And Meadow's argument is under
the supremacy Clause the First Amendment, the fourteenth Amendment of
the Constitution. He goes, I was just acting like a
normal chief of staff, you know, just trying to overthrow
the government, just like our founders anticipated. But you know, look,
Fulton County District Attorney Fonie Willis is gonna say you
ain't engaging in any normal conduct of a chief of staff.
You're engaging in conduct that's trying to overthrow our constitution.
You can't invoke the constitution as protection. So then Meadows
filed that, and then moments before we went live, Medows
filed a emergency motion with the federal court that doesn't
yet have jurisdiction, saying like begging the federal court to
step in and try to block Meadows from being arrested.
And Meadows attaches correspondents from Fulton County District Attorney Fawnie Willis,
where she says to Meadows lawyers, I'm not granting any extensions.
I gave two weeks for people to surrender themselves to
the court. Your client, Mark Meadows, is no different than
any other criminal defendant in this jurisdiction. The two weeks
was a trem discourtesy. At twelve thirty pm on Friday,
I shall file warrants in the system. My team has
availability to meet to discuss reasonable consent bonds Wednesday and Thursday.
I mean, by the way, even Trump's lawyers entered into
a consent bond. Granted Trump is whining about it, but
mostly all of the Code defendants have entered into consent bonds.
But Mark Meadows, with this feeling of infinite privilege and
that you just enter into a consent bond. Then you
could challenge it. If you want to challenge it in
federal court, there'll be a hearing on August twenty eighth.
But you see the difference here, Colin right, You've got
Open County District Attorney Foni Willis law in order, and
you've got Mark Meadows for the first time in his life,
feeling some level of accountability into your earlier point, not
even anywhere near the accountability that it should. And it's
like motion, motion helped me, help.
Speaker 1: Me, Please judge, you know why? Then you know why
because for the exact reasons that I had stated that
Donald Trump would be paler than Casper the Ghost if
in fact he had to go through the process the
way everybody else goes through it. And Mark Meadows is
not going to get the Donald J. Trump former president
treatment that I can promise you. And so this whole
process is very gut wrenching. And Mark Meadows is now
beginning to feel the pressure that everybody else in America
that ends up having any issue whatsoever justified or not,
that they go through. Mark Meadows is now feeling that pressure.
And I couldn't be happier, to be honest with you,
that he's feeling it. I warned that, moron. I warned
him when I testified before the House Oversight Committee, and
he decided that he wanted to turn around and challenge
when I stated that Donald Trump is a racist, and
he paraded out Lynn Patten. The only biracial person that
worked at the Trump organization, right was Lynn, and to
turn around and say that she's very close with Eric
and with Lara Trump. So therefore Donald who hired her
on behalf of the company, which is not true. It
was actually Eric that hired her at my request. That
clearly Donald cannot be racist as a direct result. It's
really such a stupid argument, no matter how you want
to slice it. But I warn Mark Meadows, you are
selling your soul to somebody who is soulless and rest assured.
What he did to me, he's going to end up
doing to you because you're not special. Did he listen
to me? The answer is no. And you know what,
sometimes you got to learn your lessons there, Mark, Now,
I did want to ask you something the letter that
you've put up from the House Caucus, that Freedom Caucus
group can we post that one more time for a second.
Who'll signed this letter? Salty?
Speaker 3: This seems to be written by on behalf of the
entire Freedom Caucus, which is made up of like Gates
and and all of the kind of ultra ultra ultra maga,
Like they're all maga. But it's that group of people
who really control Kevin McCarthy. They're the ones who held
up McCarthy's nomination.
Speaker 1: So so you're gonna really don't mean that they put out.
So they put out a document that's unsigned. Can you imagine? I?
And that was the that was the point I thought
maybe we were missing a second page onto it. You know, look,
this is the whole problem with the Lauren Boberts, the
Marjorie toilet Greens, the Matt Gates, the whole group of them. Right,
they're they are so that they're they're so entrenched and
they're so knee deep into the dumpster fire of the
of the Trump cult that they don't even know what
the hell they're doing anymore. They don't know what it's saying.
It's all, how can I be more, you know, of
a shock jock than of a congressman? And the ship
that they say in the stuff that they put out,
they're too embarrass to even put their names on it. Well,
you know what to each and every one of you,
and you all know who you are, because I actually
don't know who's fully a part of this freedom caucus.
For you, you get the two fucking fingers salute today. Fuck
you all in your stupidity. Do you not understand how
precious democracy is? Do you not understand that the United
States should never be an autocracy? We should never be
a monarchy, And that's exactly what Donald Trump is looking
to do. How stupid do you have to be to
think that he will be loyal to you when he
becomes the autocrat. In fact, he'll be just like Caesar was.
He's gonna start stabbing people and beheading people. It's gonna
be no different than watching The Handmaid's Tail, when you're
gonna have one commander shooting and killing and throwing another
commander under the bus. Because Donald is the ultimate alpha,
he will not allow anybody else, and anyone who starts
to thing that they too are in alpha will get
the Kim Jung un treatment of getting tied to a
fucking tree and having somebody with a rocket right, you know,
shoot a rocket launcher at you, blow you and the
tree up with, you know, while you're watching this whole
thing happening, like supposedly Kim Jong un did to his uncle.
This is who Donald Trump is and the fact that
they're not able to see it. Members of Congress, now
forget about the fact that whether or not he actually
paid for this young girl, took her over state lines.
I mean, does anything anymore preclude any of these GOP
you know, radical ridiculous fools, Does anything preclude them anymore
from running or holding office? I mean, thank goodness, at
least the Queen's people, right, the Long Island Queens people
that are in George Santos's you know district. Fortunately, they
see through the fraud that this guy is and chances
are that he's gonna get the shit kicked out of
him at the upcoming you know election. But this is
really no joke. I mean, how many George Santos's should
exist in Congress? How many Matt Gates Is, Josh Hawley's,
Marjorie Taylor Greens? I mean, how many of them do
we need? And the answer is zero. We don't want
any of them. We really need to stop this bullshit.
And that's why you know, I say this every time, Brigaders.
Some people love it, some people aren't so happy with it.
We must ensure that a blue wave in twenty twenty
four is so significant that there is no possibility whatsoever
of any of these individuals ever returning back to DC,
starting with the Mandarin Mussolini himself.
Speaker 3: Because here are the facts. Donald Trump and the Republicans
ran up the deficit to the tune of trillions of
dollars through tax cuts for billionaires that they did not
pay for. On the other hand, President Biden strategies pay
for his programs by closing tax loopholes and making sure
billionaires pay their fair share, that they don't pay less
than you pay. So money has to come from places,
and Biden's been able to reduce the deficit by finding
where the money comes from at its most simplistic level.
So here we have the arsonists the House Freedom Caucus
right here saying that they're the ones who want to
put out the fire that they created, but in reality
they just want to increase the arson over and over again,
and then blame President Biden and then blame Democrats. Where
President Biden against all odds has put the American economy
in a fairly strong position when all economists doubted that
that could be done. So you look at this letter
and it says things like, however, when Congress returns to Washington,
we will only have just a few days before the
government funding expires on September thirtieth, and time is rapidly
running out to enact all twelve appropriation bills like the
ultimate gas lighting. Here, y'all are the people who left
Congress and didn't pass the appropriation bills. The Democrats were
saying they want to pass the twelve appropriation bills in
its normal course. The maga Republicans read.
Speaker 1: Before you start, before I lose this train of thorn.
I'm so sorry, pal, But as I was reading that again,
and I'm so shocked at do you realize that if
that was you and me that put out a letter
like that, there's a better than likely chance we'ld be
tried for treason. I mean, think about what that letter
is actually doing. It's actually trying to stop government from operating,
basically holding government hostage by holding the purse strings. If
that was any body other than members of Congress, that
would probably be treason. It's amazing to me that they're
getting away with this, and where are the Democrats? For
God's sakes, It's the same thing I've been yelling at,
you know, one of the things I wanted to talk about.
Also before you know, we got into everything. You know,
I just received and we're gonna talk about it on Thursday,
and I'm gonna send it to salty to posts so
everyone can see it. I have two Foyer requests. Can
you imagine the lack of transparency that government wants to permit?
And there's a reason for it. Eight hundred and seventy
three documents allegedly have been reviewed. They turn over none.
And the argument is to why wait till Thursday, Wait
till you see what this is all about. It is insane.
This is the lack of transparency and this is the problem.
Where are the Democrats right now, all right, who are
still at least the majority in this in the Senate.
Where are the investigations for stuff like this against this
House freedom? Where are the investigations into the ig to
the transparency of government when it comes to documentation, so
that people like myself I can turn around and show
exactly who did what because what they did is illegal,
it's unconstitutional, it's undemocratic, it's Unamerican, and it needs to stop.
All right, that's the bottom line. Sorry about that, Ben.
Speaker 3: No, it's an important point that you're raised right there.
And what the MAGA Republicans are saying in this letter
is that they will stop government funding. Then they list
their hostage demands. Remember the same way they held our
economy hostage with the debt ceiling. And so the first
one they talk about stopping the flood of dangerous vent
and al into our communities. We all agree with that,
and President Biden has have many plans about how to
address it. What MAGA Republicans want to basically say is
it's Mexicans and people south of the border smuggling it
in backpacks across the border, where they're not addressing the
actual sol of where most ventanyl is arriving from. But
I think we can all agree that that should be addressed,
shouldn't shut down our economy. We should deal with it
like intelligent adults. But here we go two and three
to address the unprecedented weaponization of the Justice Department and FBI,
to focus them on prosecuting real criminals instead of conducting
political witch hunts and targeting law abiding citizens. That's clearly
a reference. This is how Maga Republicans refer to Donald
Trump and the insurrectionists right there, and then three n
the lefts cancerous, woke policies, and the Pentagon undermining our
military's core war fighting mission. That's not what's happening. Who's
undermining the military's core war fighting mission are Maga Republicans
like Tommy Tuberville who are holding up the nominations of
military generals and top ranking military officials to pursue their
kind of bizarre culture war Magga Republican agendas. And then
finally they can't help themselves and say they oppose any
blank check for Ukraine and any supplemental appropriations bill because
they're doing Vladimir Putin's bidding. And so this conduct right here,
Cohen is not normal at all. We need to call
it out, and we need to put the pressure on them.
Into your point, Democrats need to put the pressure on
them as well.
Speaker 1: I want to leave everybody, and that's what and that's what.
Thank goodness again. You know you and I have been
friends now for a long time, and I could not
be more excited, you know, to do this with you
and with the brigaders on this Midas Touch you know network,
making us you know, top two in the world on YouTube,
you know, especially when it comes to news sometimes, you know,
we're number one in the world in all categories, again
thanks to you. But one of the issues that really
needs to be looked at here and something we try
to bring and to discuss and to talk about facts
not innuendo. While we're sitting here as Americans worrying about
Donald fucking Trump showing up to Georgia for his fourth
indictment two hundred thousand, five hundred thousand. Who cares, It
doesn't really matter. Why we're following him on you know,
his airplane ride like you know, this is you know
the Frog whatever it is over at Disneyland, right mister
Frog's fabulous roller coaster ride or something like that, where
we follow him, you know, from house to you know,
to jailhouse and then from jailhouse back to his you
know mar Lardo you know, social club. Instead of worrying
about Hawaii, instead of worrying about California, instead of trying
to figure out what to do with the migrants, instead
of trying to figure out the and to do things
to improve the economy, instead of worrying about infrastructure in America,
instead of turning around and worrying about healthcare for all Americans,
to make sure that, you know, our older generation can
afford the medication that they need without being you know,
bombarded by bullshit and having to spend twelve hours in
order to get an authorization code, which usually turns out
to be wrong. All right, there's so many issues that
this country needs to face right here right now. Climate
change certainly, and of course Donald doesn't believe in climate change.
Yet Look at California, Look at what's going on in Hawaii.
Look what's going on all over the place all right
where you have insurance companies now that are bailing out
of states like Florida and California. How are you going
to get a mortgage if you don't have you know,
if you don't have home insurance. The whole thing is crazy.
But instead we're worrying about Trump, and we're worry about
Mark Meadows and the rest of these eighteen other co defendants.
Fuck them, that's what I say. Fuck them all. Let
them all be held accountable. Let's kick all of their
asses out right. Let them be held accountable for their
for their you know, dirty deeds, and for their illegal
actions under the guys of you know, under the guys
of Donald Trump and the weaponization of the Justice Department.
This is about time that we stop this nonsense already
and worry about the things that are important to you,
to me, to brigaders, and to all Americans. Enough is enough.
Speaker 3: This is some breaking news over the wire right now
that Jack Smith's team, in a reply brief, has told
Judge Cannon that a key witness in Trump's mar A
Lago document case, who I believe to be useful to verus,
identified as employee number four in the brief and in
the indictment, retracted false testimony after switching lawyers and not
having the lawyers provided by Trump's political action groups. And
that's one of the reasons that Special Counsel Jacksmith wants
to disqualify Trump's political action group hired lawyers from representing
more witnesses.
Speaker 1: I will be.
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Speaker 5: This is a we're a couple of If you've seen
the what Pentagon videos of UFOs or whatever they're called, now,
those guys are.
Speaker 6: A watcher of the Pentagon, the Pentagon's YouTube channel.
Speaker 5: Yes, we're inside these things and basically our job is
to watch videos of you guys so we can infiltrate
and take over saying infiltrate. We're not saying infiltrate, Okay,
we don't use that word. We're watching from above. And
who else do we go for for that but our
clip boys.
Speaker 7: And what we have.
Speaker 6: Learned after years of watching American media is that the
most reliable.
Speaker 7: News source is Aaron Rupar.
Speaker 5: And Ron philip Kowski. Love that guy. I'm actually on
Ron's Twitter right now. Ron de Santa is she is
a pathetic, ridiculous statement in response to the Trump indictment
is that the Declaration of Independent looks like the people.
Speaker 6: It looks like one of those posters you'd get, like
you remember, like hot topic or like it was just
like those big stores that were like you could get
CDs and t shirts and they had that section with
all the posters. Oh here's the magna carta. Yeah, here's
what the people got it.
Speaker 5: It going to hang this in my dorm room, flash
governor next to.
Speaker 7: My radio head. Okay.
Speaker 6: In terms of some of these local das in Florida,
we've actually suspended two, one in Tampa, one in Orlando
over the last year.
Speaker 7: In front of the Constitution.
Speaker 5: When he's in front of the Constitution with no one
else in the room with him, it's like the most
normal he's been in a while.
Speaker 7: Right, he doesn't have anyone to bobble at to.
Speaker 5: Just like seed about their food choices, sugar about the room.
Speaker 6: This is this like a room in his house, Like
you have your Constitution room, you have your family room,
your gaming room.
Speaker 5: Your ma is with the people, cave with people with
his banker's light on the background there, I mean it
looks like a sad replica of the set from Better
Call Soul, which is honestly a perfect metaphor, so as
room raiders, we would say that his we, the people
cave is