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<v Speaker 1>Mary Jay's got a she got a serious body of work.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and uh, she got hits.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is one of the funkiest hits that Mary

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<v Speaker 2>Jay's ever put out.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this track.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor West is here at Corneill West every Monday and Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>top of second hour. I never know what his walk

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<v Speaker 2>on song's gonna be, but I did not see Mary

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<v Speaker 2>j coming today, Doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>West, Well, brother, I tell you were living in the

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<v Speaker 3>moment with us open season on the fineness of black people.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have to be able to revel in our callings,

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<v Speaker 3>revel in our prophetic utterance and witness, not in the

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<v Speaker 3>spirit of self righteousness, but in the spirit of recognizing

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<v Speaker 3>that the fineness will be under attacked. And listen to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just read that letter of the City Council president.

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<v Speaker 3>It's week and three week boolid. It's pathetic, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but a count It's nothing but an attack on

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who's trying to raise the issue or the suffering

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<v Speaker 3>other people. How can raising issue the sefing other people

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<v Speaker 3>be profaned? How can raising issues of the sefing other

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<v Speaker 3>people reviewed as a white supremacist attack on him? Please,

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<v Speaker 3>he's got to get off the crack pipe. Now we

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<v Speaker 3>pray for the brother, but he's not one of our

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<v Speaker 3>finests at all. Where's his words about Mark really Thomas?

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<v Speaker 3>Mark really Thomas is one of our finest. Where's his

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<v Speaker 3>words in support of our finest crickets. We hardly hear

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<v Speaker 3>a words from the brother so in that sense, and

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<v Speaker 3>this is true even with our dear brother Jason there,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll talk about that as well in Cambridge. You

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<v Speaker 3>know that we pray for his family, but he's not

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<v Speaker 3>one of our finest either. But open season means in

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<v Speaker 3>fact that he's still viciously attacked. We defend against that

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<v Speaker 3>vicious attack, but he was never one of our finest.

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<v Speaker 3>To be professor ed Kim, but it's not at all,

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<v Speaker 3>not at all. That was a manipulation by the white

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<v Speaker 3>liberals that bring in folk Court. Not part of our

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<v Speaker 3>finance in that regard, and we have to lift up

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<v Speaker 3>our finest as you as Mark really Thomas. The politicians,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, people think Obama's Martin, Luther, King James, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>get off the crack pipe. Martin is one of our finests.

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<v Speaker 3>Obama's a fine politician. It's a whole different level. We

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<v Speaker 3>have to keep our standards up and descend at the

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<v Speaker 3>highest level of our energy, our finest and this is

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<v Speaker 3>something that I'm going to my grade defending the finest,

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<v Speaker 3>not that you or Mark or Martin. People say Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>Harris is s Fanny lou Hayman's get off the crack pipe. No,

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Kamala Harris is not one of our finests. She's

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<v Speaker 3>a mediocre politician who is very clever to do X

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<v Speaker 3>and Y. We have to keep our standards up, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's why we appreciate Mary Jay because Mary Jay is

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<v Speaker 3>one of our artistically oriented finest ones of her generation.

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<v Speaker 3>But she knows even she has to bow down to

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah Vaughan, to Billy Holliday, to a Refa Franklin, to

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<v Speaker 3>my Hey Jackson. We love Mary Jay. She understands one

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<v Speaker 3>of our finests keeping up the greatest standards that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor West has set the frame when we come forward

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<v Speaker 2>after a little more married Jay, I've got some questions

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<v Speaker 2>for him. And in case you are not up to

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<v Speaker 2>speed on this letter, he referenced that Markquise Harris Dawson,

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<v Speaker 2>President La City Council, released on Friday. We'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We are just about today to demand an apology from him.

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<v Speaker 2>We're about to push this out momentarily demanding an apology

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<v Speaker 2>from Marc Cuise Harris Dawson, what he said, the way

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<v Speaker 2>he insulted and tried to gas light this community. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that. It's a local issue, but it has

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<v Speaker 2>national residents, I think, and we'll talk about, of course

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<v Speaker 2>Jason our day. Doctor West mentions him the professor in

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<v Speaker 2>Cambridge who was harassed so much that he killed himself. Great,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about Corneill West when we come

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<v Speaker 2>forward here, I'm Tavis Smile, Cornell West, Glad he's here.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he has raised two issues and we got

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<v Speaker 2>a good almost twenty minutes here. We have some timer

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<v Speaker 2>to unpack these two issues he has raised. His theme,

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<v Speaker 2>his frame, essentially is that we have always seen and

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<v Speaker 2>always will see the finest in our community under attack.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet I said in one of my prior editorials

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<v Speaker 2>on our station here in LA that it bothers me

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<v Speaker 2>when certain black electeds hide behind their identity, their blackness,

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 1>They hide behind their identity, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Opined earlier, to avoid scrutiny, I don't like that because

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<v Speaker 2>you black domain, you get a pass on being held accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't like it when people play these Jedi

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<v Speaker 2>mind tricks. I don't like it when they insult us.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it when they gas light us. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>for those in Los Angeles, you've been hearing for months now,

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<v Speaker 2>actually us talking about what we call pro Destination Crenshaw.

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<v Speaker 2>They call it Destination Crenshaw. This one point three mile

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<v Speaker 2>corridor right in the heart of the black community in

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<v Speaker 2>the Crenshaw District that is years behind schedule and as

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<v Speaker 2>a result of the economic violence visited upon this community

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<v Speaker 2>has stifled.

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<v Speaker 1>People and choked people literally to death.

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<v Speaker 2>They are businesses that have gone under it because they've

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<v Speaker 2>dragged their feet so long on getting this project done.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we have raised questions about accountability to the

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<v Speaker 2>city council president in LA who happens to be black,

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<v Speaker 2>also the person that represents this district.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's all up in his feelings. He's all in

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<v Speaker 1>his feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's acting out in ways that are defensive that

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<v Speaker 2>speak to his being in his feelings and his emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not the definition of leadership. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>guess he had enough of it, and on Friday he

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<v Speaker 2>released a letter. The problem with the letter is again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's full of gas lighting, it's full of insults, it's demeaning.

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<v Speaker 2>It is grit everyday people, and we're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>tolerate that. And so we are today in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>demanding an apology from Marquise Harris Dawson for what he

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<v Speaker 2>said in this letter the other day. He lost his mind,

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<v Speaker 2>lost his ever loving mind. Let me just read a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of paragraphs, and this is what doctor West was

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<v Speaker 2>essentially referencing. He mentioned he's read the letter. So first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, in this letter, he takes credit for stuff

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<v Speaker 2>he ain't done. Anybody seen Marquise Harris Dawson. You've seen

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<v Speaker 2>the photos, You've seen the video we posted. When Karen Bash,

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor, came to the Crenshaw Corridor, she walked the

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<v Speaker 2>corridor with me and other stakeholders. We told her what

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<v Speaker 2>needed to be done. She went to work. Marquise details

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<v Speaker 2>all these things in his letter, but then acts like

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<v Speaker 2>he did. So he's taking credit for work he didn't do.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't come to the town hall, he didn't come

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<v Speaker 2>with Karen Bass when we walked the corridor. But in

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<v Speaker 2>his letter he's acting like he in Destination Crenshaw did

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<v Speaker 2>the work, stopping lying Marquise, you're lying, you ain't shown up,

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't done no work, and taking credit for it

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<v Speaker 2>in this letter. That's the definition of gas lighting. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what he does in this letter. Then secondly he calls

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<v Speaker 2>taking down the gates and the fences and the barricades,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, giving back to parking. He calls that progress.

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<v Speaker 2>No negro, that ain't progress. We back to square one.

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<v Speaker 2>Remediation is not progress if we want to see progress

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<v Speaker 2>on Destination Crenshaw, but we're back to where we started,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's not progress. But then he says the following,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to quote now that doctor West do

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<v Speaker 2>what he does. The two progress I want to read

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<v Speaker 2>right quick, and then we'll move to Dr Wes commentary

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<v Speaker 2>about Jason Arda. He says, I have to address the

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<v Speaker 2>false claims directly. He's going after Cornell West here trust

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<v Speaker 2>and believe he doesn't call it him by name, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you recall the town hall what doctor West say he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to after Cornaill West directly.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to address the false claims directly, unsubstantiated accusations

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<v Speaker 2>of corruption have been leveled at me and at this project,

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<v Speaker 2>without a shred of evidence, in a moment of rising bigotry.

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<v Speaker 2>Hurling baseless corruption charges at blackedected officials and community leaders

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<v Speaker 2>is not just wrong, it is dangerous. We've seen firsthand

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<v Speaker 2>how accusations are used to stifle progress, feed into the

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<v Speaker 2>white supremacist desire to incarcerate black leaders, and how it

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<v Speaker 2>not only harms the target but the whole community. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched every minute of the recent town hall at Bethesda

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<v Speaker 2>Temple Church, and I found it especially profane that a

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<v Speaker 2>church sanctuary would be used as the backdrop for such

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<v Speaker 2>lies and incendiary accusations. So, doctor West, he's calling you

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<v Speaker 2>and me liars, he says incendiary accusations. He's calling the

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<v Speaker 2>gathering at this black church this sacred space. He's calling

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<v Speaker 2>that gathering and those who were involved in it pro

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<v Speaker 2>And he says that we have leveled unsubstantiated accusations of

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<v Speaker 2>corruption against him. And the part that really just just

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<v Speaker 2>irks me is suggesting that because we are raising questions

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<v Speaker 2>of accountability about him, that we are somehow advancing some

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<v Speaker 2>white supremacist agenda of attacking Black leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>This negro has lost his mind.

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<v Speaker 3>He's lost his mind, he really has. He stands in

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<v Speaker 3>deepney the prayer. But the first thing he needs to

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<v Speaker 3>do is make a B line too. But there's the

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<v Speaker 3>temple and apologize to Reverend Shorter. The Black freedom movement

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<v Speaker 3>has been predicated and this city council president knows this.

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<v Speaker 3>He went to more House. He wrote a thesis on

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<v Speaker 3>the Great Mark Ridley Thomas's empowerment program. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 3>somebody writing a thesis on the empowerment Mark. Really, Thomas's

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<v Speaker 3>project has been predicated on a profound respect and love

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<v Speaker 3>for black people. But when you then have a church

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<v Speaker 3>under the able leadership of Reverend Shorter that comes together,

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<v Speaker 3>and what does it do? We start in prayer, we say,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not about any love, This is not about

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<v Speaker 3>personal attacks. You mentioned that in your speech. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>that in my speech. And what did we say? I said,

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<v Speaker 3>there are three options in terms of the present suffering

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<v Speaker 3>of the people of Limbert Park Lahmer Park. One either incompetence.

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<v Speaker 3>We're saying to the city council president and others, including

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<v Speaker 3>the mayor at that point, this is underperformance of black leadership.

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<v Speaker 3>This is lack of execution and followed through. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have precious people locked into a situation for five years,

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<v Speaker 3>and they raised their voices and you don't say anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It was only the tenth week after you had been

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<v Speaker 3>raising the issue that we got any kind of respond

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<v Speaker 3>so with either incompetence or it's indifference. You really don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't give a damn about these people because they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have enough money to sustain you and your next election.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the second option, or the third option is corruption.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be any one of them. That's not an

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<v Speaker 3>accusation of corruption. That's an articulation of an option. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that he went directly to corruption, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>oh good, you're gonna have to work with having himself.

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<v Speaker 3>That's got nothing to do with you. Ain't got nothing

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<v Speaker 3>do with me, Ain't got nothing do with nobody else.

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<v Speaker 3>He gonna have to work with that. But any time, though,

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<v Speaker 3>Brother Tavish, you view people raising their voices because they're

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<v Speaker 3>suffering as an occasion of profanity, reflects such a contempt

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<v Speaker 3>for those people. He ought to be ashamed of himself

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<v Speaker 3>to call himself a leader, let alone a black leader.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the right word. That's the road of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I sense in what he had to say a contempt

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<v Speaker 2>for black people, and that that's hard to swallow when

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<v Speaker 2>you have a contempt for people raising their voices when

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<v Speaker 2>you have underperformed, when you underperformed.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely absolutely, But this is not though, Tavis. There is

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<v Speaker 3>a history of black folk who talk one game, but

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<v Speaker 3>in the end have a contempt for the people on

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<v Speaker 3>the ground because it's all about something else. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know now he'll accuse you and I have just personal

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<v Speaker 3>interest and personal ambition. We're doing all of this based

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<v Speaker 3>on personal ambition. Why because they figure Tavis Smiley wants

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<v Speaker 3>to be the next mayor of la Please get off

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<v Speaker 1>Let me read since you read there, just let me

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<v Speaker 1>read this particular paragraph.

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<v Speaker 2>The Doctor's reverends can now Marquise Heir's president City Council

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<v Speaker 2>writes this in his letter to the public, and I quote,

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<v Speaker 2>it's no secret who's behind these recent and dubious attempts

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<v Speaker 1>Close quote. I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Personal ambition he's talking about. On my part, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of this city. I got my hands full with

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<v Speaker 2>But when he leans in to personal interest and ambitions

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<v Speaker 2>as a way to try to push back on doctor West,

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<v Speaker 2>critiku and MI critique and frankly not just calling the

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<v Speaker 2>Western Tabismley, there were hundreds of people packed in this

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<v Speaker 2>church and you've been hearing, you've been hearing on our

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<v Speaker 2>those people that we run every hour. We wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be clear in case you missed the town all that

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<v Speaker 2>there were people that got to the microphone and spoke

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<v Speaker 2>their truth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about tap.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not a personal squabble up with Marquise Harris Dawson,

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<v Speaker 2>Tavis Smiley, Cornell West to anybody else. It's about being

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<v Speaker 2>held accountable to what you told the people you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to deliver. So then to be all to go

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<v Speaker 2>lowbrow with it and to act as if this is

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<v Speaker 2>about some personal interest and ambition, that's just sick to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Doc, it is, and I just think that you know

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<v Speaker 3>the brother's on his way out. We're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>pray for him. He's gonna have to repent sometime down

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<v Speaker 3>and soul that you can't just treat the people this

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<v Speaker 3>way and be silent, and then in the end when

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<v Speaker 3>somebody makes you accountable, all of a sudden, now you

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<v Speaker 3>become one of those who are being targeted by white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 3>There are many black people who are being targeted by

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<v Speaker 3>white supremacist forces. There's no doubt about that. The black

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<v Speaker 3>people keeping him accountable is not part of that open

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<v Speaker 3>sea in activity. And if he can't see that distinction,

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<v Speaker 3>then he thinks that everyday people in Los Angeles, especially

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<v Speaker 3>anything he writes and says and follow him. Those days

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<v Speaker 3>are long, long, long over, long, long long over. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to grow up, You got to be mature. We

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<v Speaker 3>got enough mess to be dealing with with the neo

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<v Speaker 3>fascists in Washington, and these too often these neoliberals who

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<v Speaker 3>continue to act like they support us, but as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as things get hot, like the shift from George Floyd

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<v Speaker 3>moment to the Antidei moment, look at three hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand black women being targeted. That's open season on

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<v Speaker 3>black folks. They lost their job well the Merk Park

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<v Speaker 3>Black folk in some sense have been targeted by the

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<v Speaker 3>disrespect and contempt in terms of how they've been treated

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<v Speaker 3>for five years. And this is all he can come

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<v Speaker 3>up with it attack you and I and others. Please heya,

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<v Speaker 3>no grow up is right.

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<v Speaker 2>This letter is on our website at KBLA fifteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>dot com for those listening around the country and the

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<v Speaker 2>city who haven't read the letter from Marquise Heris Tawson

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<v Speaker 2>City Council President. It's worth reading for yourself. Don't take

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<v Speaker 2>my word for it, don't take dot's word for It's

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<v Speaker 2>on our website right now on the homepage. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>miss it KBLA fifteen eighty dot com. He knows because

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<v Speaker 2>we keep reminding you if he has until September the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth the city does to respond to the demands made

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<v Speaker 2>by the community in the letter we sent them on

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<v Speaker 2>August to fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>Is our recalls. They've got into a September fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Friday to respond in detail that the demands made by

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<v Speaker 2>this community. We will see what happens on September fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>And people keep asking me what happens if they don't respond,

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<v Speaker 2>don't respond appropriately, And my answer is very simply, stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I can tell you about Ted.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got three minutes left, Doc, let's let's I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Our finers like Mark Really Thomas is targeted and he's

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the charge of the corruption and incarceration. Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Really Thomas is an innocent man who's been targeted. Where's

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<v Speaker 2>And for that matter, you know I don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>It's not about beating my chest. But what this station

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<v Speaker 2>has done locally is to defend standing the gap for

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Whody Thomas. We've also done the same thing for

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<v Speaker 2>same thing for current price. So you can't accuse us

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<v Speaker 2>of running a white experiencist agenda. But we're the only

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<v Speaker 2>media outlet in town who's standing firm behind the black

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<v Speaker 2>electors who are being falsely accused.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll leave that where it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got too many left to go, Doc, say a

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<v Speaker 2>word then again to your point about our finance being targeted,

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<v Speaker 2>about brother Jason and the ways in which he was

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<v Speaker 2>so harassed and so targeted that brother took his own life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Well it's a sad situation. You know, when

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<v Speaker 3>he was up for the job, there were two black

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<v Speaker 3>women who were really superb scholars, and the white advisory

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<v Speaker 3>board chose Brothers Jason, and it turned out that Jason

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<v Speaker 3>was not honest. It turns out that he was not

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<v Speaker 3>telling the full truth about his history and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a very wonderful human being, he's a sensitive human being,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a kind human being, but he was not up

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<v Speaker 3>for that job. When it comes to the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>academic qualification, they're a whole wave of black people who

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<v Speaker 3>meet the academic qualification, there's no doubt about that. But

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<v Speaker 3>then when it came down so hard on him, the

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<v Speaker 3>British press, especially the establishment, did it express a white

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<v Speaker 3>supremacist contempt for not just him, but Black people as

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<v Speaker 3>a whole, as a whole, And then you've got Nathan

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<v Speaker 3>and the others. Of course, that's the white brother, the

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<v Speaker 3>Jewish brother who believes in rape science, who believes that

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<v Speaker 3>Harvard would have zero professors if it were based on merit,

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<v Speaker 3>and Harvard would not have hardly any students if it

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<v Speaker 3>was based on merit. What do they mean by merit?

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<v Speaker 3>When was merit ever fully operative? In knee way, so

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<v Speaker 3>that he believes in superstition. That's what rape science says.

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<v Speaker 3>You might as well believe in Unicorn's defense war. But

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<v Speaker 3>he's professor great science, so let him have his superstitious

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<v Speaker 3>He's the one who was responsible for bringing exposing Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>but Jason himself was open to this kind of exposure.

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<v Speaker 3>We have black quaalter flight academics who could teach a Cambridge, Oxford,

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<v Speaker 3>any city college, any state college, any university across the board.

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<v Speaker 3>You I'll begin with my Alna Korenga, my dear brother

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<v Speaker 3>who's been sitting out there doing magnificent work too often

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<v Speaker 3>overlook major major boys. We got a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 2>He Jason already, of course, is now dead. And the

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<v Speaker 2>news about Nathan Jolas and Nathan Conference, who doctor Wes

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<v Speaker 2>just mentioned, who brought these allegations against brother Jason. He

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<v Speaker 2>has now been suspended by his university. So this thing

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<v Speaker 2>ain't end well for nobody. Jason is deceased and the

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<v Speaker 2>white brother Nathan Conference cognast has now been suspended by

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<v Speaker 2>his institution. So this story continues to develop. But our

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and prayers go to brother Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>And his family.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor west Uh, it's always you you. You bring it

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<v Speaker 2>every Monday and Thursday. I thank you for what I

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<v Speaker 2>love you man, Thanks for your time.

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<v Speaker 3>Love you, Love you brother, Stay strong man.

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<v Speaker 1>More tablished by When We Come Forward
