WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:04.200 Mister, you are grounded and no TV can take you 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:07.080 all the exciting colors out of your crayons. When you're 3 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:10.000 out of my sight, you must constantly twitter me exactly 4 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:13.119 what you're up to, even though I don't know what 5 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.039 Twitter is and have no desire to find out. 6 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:19.480 You guys are the meanest appearents ever. 7 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:20.640 Thank you. 8 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:53.479 Four Finger Discount dude. 9 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:41.039 Welcome to four Finger Discount. With this week, we're gonna 10 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:44.000 be sending some podcasts, some podcasts from the Wedge. 11 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:44.719 Are we in the Wedge? 12 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:45.960 Where are we anyway? I'm Danda. 13 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.399 Wow, that's some fun wordplay there. Yeah, I am guy. 14 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.600 By the way, Yes, Postcards from the Wedge? 15 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:54.359 Yeah, what's that a play on? I didn't do any 16 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:56.280 research on the title of this episode, did you know what? 17 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:58.719 I thought? That's gonna be your new bit. You can 18 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.439 tell us what the title is? A spin on podcast 19 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:02.679 from the Wedge? What's that I spin on? 20 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:05.480 Well? This this requires me to do homework. How funny 21 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:07.640 that this episode is about that, and I would like that. 22 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:10.079 I would rather not do one much. But Postcards from 23 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:15.879 the Edge is the first book by Carrie Fisher. Oh really, yeah. 24 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:18.760 She's on the edge of insanity. Most she entered Hollywood. 25 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:21.040 Right pretty much. Well, yeah, she was born into a 26 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.680 show his family, and I started acting from a fairly 27 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:25.799 young age. Even before she was Friendcess Lage. She'd been 28 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.159 in a few movies and things like that. 29 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:29.400 Yeah, I think it wasn't Hamble the only real unknown 30 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:31.319 going into the main cast. 31 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:33.000 Yeah, I think even Hamill was sort of on the 32 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:35.120 on the rise as well. I mean, Harrison Ford wasn't 33 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.040 even that well known. He'd been in a few movies 34 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:39.560 and he'd been an American graffiti for George Luke. That's 35 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:43.640 the one, I mean, really a star parent that was 36 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:46.519 Alec Guinness. Yeah, I mean that's that's the one that 37 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:48.680 gave star was a bit of credibility, but no. Postcards 38 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:51.719 from the Edge was Carrie Fisher's first novel, as very 39 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:54.840 sort of thinly veiled story of her life and her 40 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:56.640 sort of career in show because it's about a young 41 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:03.439 young actress in Hollywood sort of navigating her professonal professional life. 42 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:05.920 She's sort of in and out of rehab. She's flirting 43 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:10.520 with flirting with drugs, heavy petting with a drug show, 44 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.719 we say, but yeah, it gave a lot of people 45 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.280 in indications like, oh, we thought she were just Princess Leia, 46 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:17.599 But you know Carrie Fisher, as I think we've alluded 47 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:20.599 to on we might have talked about this with Lennond 48 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:23.759 Moulton on the Movie Guide with Malton Davis how she 49 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:25.840 was a really successful script doctor for Ages and then 50 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.719 she wrote her own scripts. But she also if a 51 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:33.159 production needed like this could use four funnier lines, or 52 00:02:33.280 --> 00:02:35.719 this character is a little undeveloped, they'd go to Carrie Fisher. 53 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:37.280 And she was a really good writer to be able 54 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.400 to punch it up. So she published a few more books, 55 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:41.360 but Postcards from the Edge was her first one, just 56 00:02:41.400 --> 00:02:43.639 before or after Star Wars. It was after Star Wars. 57 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:45.319 I think it was the late eighties early nineties. I 58 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:46.960 remember having a copy back in the day and look, 59 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:48.120 there's pretty good. 60 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:50.039 Look it up. So what does that title have to 61 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.159 do with this episode? What does because usually the title 62 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:54.840 is a spit on something that can relate what was 63 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.120 they talk about the wedge issue in this though, Ah, 64 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.199 the wedge of the parents. There you go, well done, sir, 65 00:02:59.319 --> 00:02:59.879 there we go. 66 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:01.759 Yeah, And Postcast the Edge was actually made into a 67 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:05.120 movie with Meryl Streep, Shili McLain I've seen that post 68 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.800 and now you're talking about yeahs quades and there Gene Hackman, 69 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.719 Richard Dreyfus, and the benning is Dreyfus. 70 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:12.719 I've always said Dryfus could. 71 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:15.360 Be either could be potato potato. Wait a minute, no one. 72 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:20.240 Says potato except who the songwriters who are trying to 73 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:21.080 rhyme the word or through. 74 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.840 But yeah, Postcards from the Edge is yeah, Kerry Fisher 75 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:29.680 Joint Posts from the Widge. Is this episode of The Simpsons, Yeah, 76 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:30.680 which I enjoyed more. 77 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.000 Than last week. Really, I didn't like cal Yoh at all. 78 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.039 I know you did not. Yeah, I enjoyed this one 79 00:03:35.039 --> 00:03:37.439 a lot more. I think it's because I am going 80 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:40.400 through what not going through what they're going through. Because 81 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:42.719 my kids don't go out of their way to manipulate, 82 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:45.719 but they're at that point now where they getting old 83 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.080 enough my kids where if they get announced that they 84 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:50.479 don't like, they'll just go to the other parent and 85 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.960 not go, well Dad said this. They'll just go and say, 86 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:55.479 I'll just see what the other one says. And because 87 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.280 if one of them says okay, then we're good. Yeah, 88 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.479 but they won't say Dad said no, But what do 89 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.039 you reckon, it's just okay, well dad said no, Let's 90 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.759 see what mom says, and Nichola says, okay, Nick supposed 91 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:08.360 about me out because I didn't know you'd already said no, 92 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.280 And they're like, well, what is it, guys? 93 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:14.199 This is something I wanted to talk about with you, because, yeah, 94 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:17.040 you're coming live from the trenches of parenthood. 95 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:18.279 Which is why I think I relate a lot more 96 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:18.600 to this. 97 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:23.519 Absolutely, But hey, I'm wondering if you and Nichola have 98 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.839 to sort of sit there before, even before you had kids, 99 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:32.480 sort of had to go right, what's our game plan here? 100 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:34.319 I mean, I know you have to approach everything on 101 00:04:34.360 --> 00:04:38.680 a case by case basis. That's life, that's parenthood. But yeah, 102 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:40.240 if there are certain big issues that come up, or 103 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.279 certain big issues that knew were going to happen when 104 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:43.959 you had kids, when you had Elliot, when you had 105 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.879 only it's like, okay, look, we have to be a 106 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.839 united front on this issue. This is the way we're 107 00:04:50.879 --> 00:04:52.800 going to take it, even if it may sort of 108 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:56.560 run counter to the way you would normally think about something. 109 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:59.639 It's like, Nicola may have a strong stance on homework, 110 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:02.879 for instance, using this and you mean I'm like, look, 111 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:07.319 it's overrated. I don't know what you mean. It's like, Okay, 112 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:09.319 we have to have a united brun and this has 113 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.839 to be our position. Yeah, I'm wondering if that's the case. 114 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.079 I don't know how other couples do it. But we 115 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.040 never really sat down and had a discussion about things 116 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:18.319 like that. But before kids, it was just a lot 117 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:20.399 of parents don't before. 118 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:22.639 You had kids. This is us in general. Before we 119 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.160 had kids, you just you got along because you just 120 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:27.439 you got along. There's a reason you were married because 121 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.199 you were friends. And that's what having kids. We've had 122 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.160 a conversation since even much just like six months ago, 123 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.600 is you need to remember why you're married together in 124 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:39.279 the first place, because it's almost like to become work 125 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:43.480 colleagues as opposed to best friends because you're working at 126 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.560 it's like you watch the kids, why exercising, it's always 127 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.199 like you're chopping each other out. And then my parents 128 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:51.399 God Blessing took the kids for their first little mini 129 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:54.240 holiday away this week just to their their house. They 130 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:56.399 took the kids for four I think it was four nights, 131 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.240 three three days, four nights, whatever it was, and we 132 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:00.680 didn't know what to do with that. It got to 133 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:02.639 like Saturday in the morning and we went, what are 134 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:04.879 we going to do? Are the kids on here? 135 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:05.240 Oh? 136 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:07.360 Oh, this is what it was like when we could 137 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:09.759 just and like we said, we said to each other, 138 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:13.319 it's not that we don't want them here, but it 139 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.000 was just nice to be able to just do something 140 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.800 without having to worry about, of course what they're doing, 141 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:19.680 you know, and it was just having time and we 142 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:23.000 sort of remembered, oh, this is why we're married in 143 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:23.399 the first time. 144 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:24.959 Went back to the old normal as opposed to the 145 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.800 new norm. Yeah. There's a great line in the movie 146 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:30.800 Before Sunset, you know those ones with Ethan Hawk. Yeah, 147 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:35.160 where I think Ethan Hawk is going through a separation 148 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:37.279 from his wife with whom he has kids, and he 149 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.399 and kind of in the weeds about it, and he says, yeah, 150 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:42.800 it's like running a daycare center with someone who used 151 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:43.160 to date. 152 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:47.519 Yeah, it gets that way. Sometimes you get better at it. 153 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.199 When it was when we struggled for a bit, when 154 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.680 Holly was starting to talk a lot more and just 155 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.720 sort of batchat she was more rebellious than Alliott. I 156 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.639 wouldn't call my kids naughty, but they just you know, 157 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:02.000 if they didn't get what they wanted, they would react 158 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:03.879 in a way that most kids would just react to, 159 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:06.360 what do you mean? I want to get what I want? 160 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.759 They didn't go oh, like Bart does this episode, I'm 161 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.319 gonna plant these seeds and manipulate and things. That's just 162 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.360 why am I not getting what I want? And then 163 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:18.199 you get angry and I find myself sometimes I ask myself, 164 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.519 am I being a good father? Am I being a 165 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:23.959 good person? I feel like that sometimes their behavior brings 166 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:25.839 out the worst in me. Oh, I understand, and that's 167 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:29.199 why I watching this seeing Homer going, you go do 168 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.120 your homework, and then Marge's like, you know you do this? 169 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.639 You feel sorry. Sometimes I find Nikola and I Nichola 170 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:37.680 will be struggling to get them to do it. They're todd, 171 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.439 get your pjs on, do this, and they're just taking 172 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.079 the piss, taking the piss, and Nicholas just come on now, 173 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.079 and I just go put your fucking pjs on, like 174 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.160 where the bosses, and Nicola goes, Dad didn't mean to 175 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.360 get I'm like, don't, no, no, no, And that's where 176 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.879 the frustration for us will start stemming from us, like 177 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:57.160 you weren't getting they weren't listening to you. I laid 178 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:59.439 the I put my foot down. Yeah, we've got an object. 179 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:01.959 And then it was I almost felt like, don't make 180 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.920 them feel bad because they got youlled at it. They 181 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.120 weren't doing what they were told, which is what I 182 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.000 watched Homer in this episode. A lot of the cases 183 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:10.959 like do your homework, and for the first time home 184 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.279 is actually trying to be a good parents. You told 185 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:14.800 you have to do your homework, you might just like 186 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:16.199 just do a little bit, just do a little bit. 187 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:17.639 I was like, I'll be there. 188 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.000 Okay, okay. Look that brings a lot of stuff into 189 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.240 focus for me, or clarifies a lot, because you look, 190 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:27.319 I just start a parent, don't have kids, haven't had 191 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:28.600 to sort of go through an of this stuff. I 192 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.959 was watching a lot of this episode. This should be 193 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:33.600 a lot easier than it is, but no, it can 194 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.960 be quite difficult when you've got two people with two 195 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:41.159 different personalities, two different approaches, not necessarily different approaches everything, 196 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.639 but certainly to one issue, this wedge issue. Yeah, in 197 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.320 this case, it can cause a bit of a bit 198 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:46.879 of a divide. 199 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.399 It was funny for me last night watching these reviews 200 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:51.639 to do these reviews that we're doing today because we 201 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:53.559 actually recording the next episode as well, back to back 202 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:56.960 here next week one, which is stealing first base. It is, 203 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.720 but I'm watching this going I don't think I would 204 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:03.519 have liked these episodes ten years ago, and I compared 205 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:06.679 it to I've been watching the Beatles Anthology mentioned it 206 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:10.120 recently on her podcast, and I love the Beatles growing up, 207 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:12.960 and then I loved Lennon's I loved his solo stuff. 208 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:14.399 But there are a lot of songs where I was 209 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:17.000 just like, they're good songs. And the older I got, 210 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.799 he got married, starting having kids, songs like just like 211 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.960 starting over, Yeah, beautiful Boy, all those songs, I was like, oh, 212 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.279 I get them now. I like to the Maladies, but 213 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:30.679 now I understand the songs. And I was like, I 214 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:33.399 think about a point in my life now where Lennon was, 215 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:35.080 and that point in his life where he's writing things 216 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:37.240 that related to him as a late thirty year old, 217 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:39.000 and now I'm in my late thirties, I'm like, oh, 218 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.320 I get these songs. These episodes here, I feel like 219 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.279 I'm going through what the writers might have been going 220 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.000 through as they were writing these episodes, which is why 221 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:47.519 I think I relate to them a lot more than 222 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:48.399 maybe what you do. 223 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:51.399 At this point. Well, I'm glad you're hear that, yeah, 224 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:54.559 because you probably got more to say about this particular 225 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:57.080 episode than I did, which I thought was eh, okay. 226 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:59.159 I mean I think I was approaching it more from 227 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:03.919 a just entertaining Is this an entertaining episode? And it 228 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.399 is in some ways, but in other ways it is. 229 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.399 I think that was Actually I think I've written down 230 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:11.799 fucking down an episode. Man. Yeah, Okay. 231 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:14.480 There was a subplot here that I feel like could 232 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:16.279 have been its own episode, probably should have been its 233 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.559 own episode, the Springfield Subway. There is so much to 234 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.320 do with that, and it became just sort of this 235 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:23.360 mini subplot of how Bark caused an earthquake. But I 236 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.799 was like, there's a Springfield Subway. That's a whole new 237 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:28.919 world to base episodes around, Like have the episode. I 238 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.919 know you've had mar Dresses the monorail, but I think Springfield, 239 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:34.279 for whatever reason, they needed to having to reopen the 240 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:37.799 Springfield Subway and it just remaining open. I think would 241 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:40.600 be a fun new show, adventure and world for them 242 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:44.399 to base episodes. Just for example, I'm thinking playing Simpsons 243 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:45.759 Hit and Run. I know why my brain went there 244 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:47.919 when I was watching this episode in Simpsons Hit and Run. 245 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:49.200 I think it would have been so cool to jump 246 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:51.840 on the Springfield Subway and drive around like I just 247 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:53.919 think there's so many things you could have done based 248 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.720 in the Springfield Subway, could have become a new beloved location. 249 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:58.279 But it's just sort of fobbed off. 250 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:00.559 I'm wagering when they never gonna hear from it again. 251 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:02.600 Yeah, exactly right, And that's a shame, I think. I 252 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:05.440 think it's I think it's a really interesting location. 253 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:07.600 Yeah, no, you're not wrong, You're not wrong. I mean, 254 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:10.720 sorry to jump ahead to favorite moments were. One of 255 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.120 the things that I really liked about this episode was 256 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.320 that opening animation, that whole Springfield or Tomorrow thing, and 257 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:19.120 you know, showing that Springfield was indeed a city on 258 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:22.559 the grow at some stage, and it's like, yeah, I 259 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.279 like the idea of it being, yeah, a city that's 260 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:28.399 got this whole kind of infrastructure and we're in Geelong, 261 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.519 the Springfield of Australia. It's like, I remember we used 262 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.759 to have DRAMs and stuff like that, oh way way 263 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:35.960 way back in the day. And I think when you 264 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:37.639 have your hometown. You sort of look at it and go, 265 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.360 there's so much potential here. Why are we following through 266 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:41.799 on that march versus the monorail. 267 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.519 To me, the difference would be that the monorael felt 268 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:47.600 unnecessary and it was clearly a scam from the get go. Right, 269 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:50.679 the Springfield monrorael and a subway must have worked at 270 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.480 some point, sure, and then as decided we didn't need 271 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.759 to Yeah, man, but had it going quickly? 272 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:56.759 Exactly? What do I always say? We used to build 273 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:58.559 things in this kind of It looked really beautiful. Yes, 274 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:00.919 even Bard comments look at that iron work. 275 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.480 That's what I'm saying, Like this location would have been 276 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:06.360 so beautiful to see up and running you maybe, hey, 277 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:09.799 Al Jean Matt Salmon, Simpsons movie, bring Back the Springfield Subway? 278 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.759 Yeah, man, we spoke recently. Come on, you're clearly listening 279 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:16.960 to it. I want to get your thoughts on homework. Yeah. 280 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:18.559 Do the kids have homework? Not yet? 281 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:21.000 The only homework they have at the moment is, you know, 282 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:24.240 do some reading, not do an assignment on this? 283 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:24.720 Not yet? 284 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:26.799 Is any grade grade too? I think grade three is 285 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:28.399 when it really starts kicking into gain. 286 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.120 Yeah. I was just thinking about diorramas. I think I 287 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:35.000 never had to make a diorhama for a homework or 288 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.840 anything like that. But I remember back in like grade six, 289 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:41.559 we had some project was basically like make a plaster 290 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:43.759 of Paris map of Australia or something. 291 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:45.799 Okay, we have got make volcanoes and things like that. Yeah, 292 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.879 Machet like, it's. 293 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:51.799 The point of this, honestly, And I mean the one 294 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:54.559 that I made with a lot of help from Mum 295 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.440 turned out to be kind of but ugly and geographically inaccurate. 296 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.279 We did it, but you got a good memory about it. 297 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.360 You got a good memory, but making it right? 298 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:05.000 No, not really really. 299 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:09.919 Making dioramas and things with my parents. Yeah, that's sort 300 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:11.799 of a key chig memory from that. 301 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.879 I think both Mum and kind of like, what's the point. 302 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:19.440 What are we doing here, guys? And then this was 303 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:21.679 not like a year long project or something, but it 304 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:23.639 was semi major. He actually had to do it during 305 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:26.279 school holidays as well. I remember coming back from school 306 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.159 holidays and someone had made something that looked absolutely beautiful, 307 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:31.279 like one legit professional. 308 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:32.559 They didn't make it, that's the thing. 309 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:34.559 Maybe they didn't. 310 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:36.960 Well, here's the thing. I feel like I'm gonna be 311 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.919 that parent that wants Elliott's to look good, nice sort 312 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.720 of take over. Oh no, that's not what we do, 313 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:45.279 so do we do it this way? 314 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.519 But yeah, I mean I was thinking about homework, and 315 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.639 you hear a lot of sort of parents saying or 316 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.279 even you know, wow, God, what's the point of that? 317 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:56.200 Why can't we Why can't our kids learn what they 318 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.799 have to learn within school hours and then after hours? 319 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.600 You know, that's when they can either extracurriculus or they 320 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:03.120 just get a chance to be kids, just get a 321 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:06.440 chance to relax. Well, yeah, maybe the work the homework 322 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:09.039 is not about the work or not about the task 323 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.759 it's been set. It's more about do you have persistence, 324 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:14.720 do you have organization? Do you have good time management? Not? 325 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:16.519 Do you have these things naturally, but we're trying to 326 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.080 maybe instill these into you. I think, Okay, well that's valid. 327 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:21.159 That makes a bunch of sense. 328 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:23.440 It's for me, My core thing, and I've mentioned this 329 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:26.720 in a podcast, is stressing to my kids. It doesn't 330 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.879 matter if you don't get a great score, as long 331 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:30.679 as you're having an effort. As long as you're putting 332 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:32.840 in the effort, that's what I want the most And 333 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:34.879 obviously you want your kids to do succeed and do 334 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:37.799 well in school. But you don't have to succeed in 335 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:41.080 school to succeed in life. No, it's just as long 336 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.440 as you are doing what you want to do, you're happy. 337 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.720 Yeah, but he's happy. Yeah, But I mean the structure. 338 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:49.679 Of learning and this pertains the homework as well as Yeah, 339 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:52.399 can you do it outside of the structure of school. Yeah, 340 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:55.080 while we're not sort of looming over you, so you know, 341 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:56.440 and there are going to be times when you're not 342 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.879 being monitored. Yeah, and that's the time when you have 343 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:00.320 to sort of sit down and go, Okay, well I 344 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.799 need to can do ABC and D. Do I have 345 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:05.360 it in me to sit down and do all these things? 346 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.399 And what's the most efficient and effective way to do it? 347 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:08.960 I think the older you get, I know, when I 348 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.600 was in year twelve anyway, what we call VCE you 349 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:14.559 do less classes so you have more study time at school. 350 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:16.799 So when it starts getting to the nitty gritty, the 351 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.120 serious side of things, we've got to get a good 352 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.399 score to get into university and things like that. It's 353 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:23.519 all right. Instead of doing you know, ten sessions of classroom. 354 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:25.759 You might do seven and you got five through it, 355 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:27.679 and you can pick when you have your study sessions. Yeah, 356 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:29.639 and you're studying at school. Some kids obviously go the 357 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:31.399 extra mile and study outside of school and they get 358 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:33.679 better scores, but they give you at least that time 359 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.120 at school to go. We know that you're probably not 360 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:37.679 going to want to do stuff outside of school, so 361 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:39.440 you can have some study time at school. But yeah, 362 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:41.559 Ali's at that point. He's doing homework yet, but he 363 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:43.840 wants to. He says, I want to do some homework. 364 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:47.600 He'll say, can you give me ten words to write? 365 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:50.320 Or And Ali's he's just a smart kid. 366 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:50.480 Man. 367 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:52.440 I know you buyas for your own kids, but he's 368 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:53.000 just smart. 369 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:55.039 That's good. Yeah, he's motivated. 370 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:57.360 I guess you could say, well, it's well, it's good 371 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:58.000 to have the both, right. 372 00:15:58.080 --> 00:15:58.240 Yeah. 373 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.000 Well I took him roller skating for the first time 374 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.840 the roll skating rink here in Geelong, and he'd never 375 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.639 roll scatered or rollerblade whites in his life. And the 376 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:08.840 first fifteen twenty minutes he was struggling and he was 377 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:11.039 falling over and I said, look, I'm gonna go get 378 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:12.679 it there and help him because he's just kept falling over. 379 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:14.320 I could see he was getting I wouldn't say he 380 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:16.480 was getting frustrated. He was getting embarrassed because you've seen 381 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.200 other kids sort of scat and he was like, I 382 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:19.799 don't want to look like I can't do this and 383 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:21.559 other kids are falling over, but he doesn't. That's not 384 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:23.720 what he's focusing on. He's just focusing I can't do it, 385 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:25.559 so it. Then I helped him and I got in between. 386 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:27.720 He was holding onto the wall, so I held it. 387 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:31.000 I'm your wall, you hold onto my hand and said 388 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.159 I said, you want to have a break, and he goes, no, 389 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:33.519 I'm going to get this. I'm going to get this. 390 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.559 And within an hour he was having me time him 391 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:39.600 doing laps because he just he's like, I can do this. 392 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:41.360 I know I can do this. I've just got to practice. 393 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:43.960 And it's just trying to instill in him it's okay 394 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:47.080 because I reckon. A year ago, he would have cracked it, 395 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:50.679 and he's now thankfully learnt that it's okay not to 396 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:51.879 be good at something from the get go. 397 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:53.320 That's a valuable less list. 398 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:55.639 Persist, you know, just try and it doesn't matter if 399 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.240 you don't pick it up. But just try not everything's 400 00:16:58.240 --> 00:16:58.639 for everyone. 401 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:02.559