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Speaker 1: What is of Pelska's Onmdan Valley coming at you with

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yet another twenty twenty five twenty twenty six NBA season

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look ahead on to the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, which

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means I'm super stoked to be joined by the one,

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the only mister Brian took Borak. He covers the Sixers

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for Liberty Ballers. You can also find his written work

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at Forbes and fan Sided and he worked does fantastic

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things behind the scenes and has helped me out of

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many many pickles and improved many many of my articles

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over at we Chirport because that works together for like

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over a decade, We're getting pretty old. Follow him on

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the socials at B to Pork. That's at bt OPO

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r e K. This is gonna be a depressing podcast.

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Let's starts with a fun question, how the heck are

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you doing by?

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Speaker 2: I am good, Thank you for having me as always Dan,

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good to be back. I'm sorry I missed this last year.

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I had just had my second child, or my wife

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had just had my second child. Were knee deep in

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the throes of newborndom. But he is now a little

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after one years old, thirteen months now walking around the

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house terrorizing us. So we are back in the podcast game.

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And I gotta say, I saw you have the goat

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Caitlin Cooper on for the Pacers Podge. I saw her

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wrapping the hardwood knocks merch. Can't say I have the

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hardware knockstrat on, but I do have some vintage NBA jam.

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Oh yeah, I'm let's see for those watching the video,

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Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. And please note Ben simmons

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three point rating on this shirt is a big red

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bar a zero, which really nearly summarizes my relationship with

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the Philadelphia seventy six ers over the last ten plus years.

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Speaker 1: What a shirt, What a mic drop to just begin

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things beg you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife got this for me after he got traded,

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so I'm pretty sure it was just like a fifty

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percent off deal. I see what she's doing, but I

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don't know if she was intentionally trolling me because I

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had lived through the Ben Simmons era and she just

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thought I wanted to be reminded of it. But then

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I did see the three point rating. I was like,

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you know what, so this is actually good and I

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have been stopped back when you lived in Baltimore. Someone

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was stopping in the grocery store one time said he

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loved the shirt. It's like, man, what could have been?

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It's like, you know what's sir? You're absolutely right? What

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a great profound question about this team? What could have?

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Speaker 1: So it's equal parts catharicism and masochism corres what the

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shirt represents. Nurse's really what following the six or? Is this?

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I respect it, I respect a hell, I all your

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wife even more now. And I think we all know

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why the little one is being a terrorI it's because

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you skipped to look ahead last year, and so I'm

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happy that he is extracting retribution on our behalf. But

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I am excited to talk to you about this team

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because I don't know what to make of this team.

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They are confusing as hell. Even if you bacon, or

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even if you just exprecate the big variable, well let's

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just say that they're going to be healthy. I still

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don't necessarily understand what this team could be. But I

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think we should start with the breaking news happened a

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few hours before we began this podcast. My general question

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to you is now that the Quentin Grimes situation has

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been hashed out. How do you feel about how it

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ended and how it ended up impacting just the Sixers'

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overall offseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what a complete dud of a three

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months drawn outside from this and you know what eight

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hours before the qualifying offer deadline for him to just

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take the qualifying offer. You know, I wrote a couple

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of days ago that this would be kind of the

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worst case scenario for all sides, and I just don't

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really understand how we got here, you know, I think

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based on the reporting that has come out really throughout

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the whole process, like even dating back before free agency,

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to be looking for like twenty five million dollars a year,

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which just you're not reading the market if you think

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that was a realistic ask. I mean, that's just what

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Josh Gitty got from the Chicago Bulls. And you know,

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for the questions about the viable questions, I think about

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Josh Giddy as a playoff performer, he just has a

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much more established track record in the NBA. You know,

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Quentin Grimes had a phenomenal run with the Sixers over

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the twenty eight games that he played after the trade deadline,

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but it was twenty eight games on a team that

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was circling the drain that you know, and being I

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think played five of those games Maxie and George it

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was like nine to ten, so that many yeah, yeah,

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well out of friends. But you know, he he played.

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not going to play on a fully healthy Sixers team

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or even you know, if he goes somewhere in the

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summer of twenty twenty six and in a rain roll

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on his next team, that I don't think he's the

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number one option on a championship under by any means.

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that said, if the reports are true about like you know,

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the Sixers offering four years thirty nine million, which is

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basically his qualifying offer over four years with eight percent

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annual raises, or like the report came out today that

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they offered him, like I think it was one hundred

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thousand dollars more than his qualifying offer to wag to

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waive the veto rights on his trade, and that's just insulting,

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Like we just saw Nikolijovitch get four years sixty million

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or sixty two million from the way, like Quinn, Grimes

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is not going to settle for less than that. So

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they resigned Grimes, they were about like nine point eight

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million below the first apron, they were like around twenty

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two I think a little bit below twenty two below

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the second apron. And if they wanted to preserve use

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of the mid the tax payermid level, which is around

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five point seven million, they use that, they're hardcapped to

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the second apron. So you do the math, and like

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a sixteen million dollars starting salary was probably the red

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line that they weren't willing to cross. Now, you could

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rightfully point out at this time of year, they're probably

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not going to use the tax payer mid level exception.

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There's no free agent on the market who was worth

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that amount of money. And I'm sure they would push

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back and say, ah, but wait, wait until let's see

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what happens in the buyout market. Let's see what happens

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midway through the season, to which I would respond, A,

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you cannot use the tax payermid level exception as a

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trade exception. You can only do that with the room

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and the non taxpayer and b if you're over the

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first apron, you can't sign guys on the buyout market

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who were earning more than the non tax payermid level exception.

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who is earning less than non tax payer mid level

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that gets bought out and it's worth the tax payer

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mid level exception, I will eat my words five months

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from now until then, I do not think they're going

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to use the tax payer mid level. So, you know,

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could they have gone up to eighteen million, probably, but

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there's you know, their their party line was, we want

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to preserve long term flexibility. We're worried about how how

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his deal is going to age. But you know, now

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looking back, knowing that he takes the qualifying offer, they

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could have paid Yabu. So congratulate, Yeah, getting Yabo for

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even less, slightly less than the taxpayer emily. But you

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know they would have they would have had room to

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spare under the second apron if they had used the

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taxpayer emily to keep Yabo and then Grimes took the

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qualifying offer.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't The implication of all this, though, make it seem

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like their goal is just going to be duck the

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tax entirely, which, as you noted, they are one Kelly

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Uberdge junior war Quentin Grimes waving is implicit no tree

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called away from making happen like that would be my

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read of all this to where let's say, let's say

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they knew that this is how it was going to end.

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I'm not convinced that they would have tried to keep

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kersh on you. I'll beseelly anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, Yeah, I think they they love giving themselves

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an escape hatch, and they find increasingly creative ways to like, oops,

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we just managed to duct the tax. All we had

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to do was spend two second round picks the dump

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kJ Martin's contract, even though it was we had a

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team option on it and we could have just declined it.

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But yeah, so maybe this year they'll get picks back

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with their tax ducking salary dump instead of giving picks up.

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That would be a nice change of pace for them.

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But yeah, I mean it seems like to me this

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sends a signal them not using the tax pyramid level.

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I understand, because you didn't want to do that first.

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You don't want to hardcap yourself because then that does

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give you know, the nets No, Okay, they can only

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spend sixteen million on grind if we give him eighteen

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million whatever nineteen twenty as a starting salary. We can

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even structure it so it descends, but they can't match

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it unless they salary domp somewhere else. So, like I

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get it from that perspective, but now having seen how

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things play out, it feels just like a vote of

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no confidence in this group as a viable championship contender,

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which is just a complete change of pace from how

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they were going into last season. And it's you know,

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I understand it given the health status of and B,

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Paul George, even Jared McCain already suffered a thumb injury's

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going to miss the first couple weeks of the season.

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But like, look around the East and the opportunity is

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arguably much more wide open than it was last season.

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There's a world wherein this team could be a viable

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playoff or even championship contender this year. So like it's

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baffling that we're having the conversation of like they have

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that in their range of outcomes, and then they also

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have duck the tax at the trade deadline?

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Speaker 1: What is does it make it us have a bigger

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picture question? But does this make it more likely that

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Quentin Grimes is on the Sixers fast February's deadline or

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less likely that he's on the Sixers because the nuances

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of Okay, maybe they want to get out of the tax,

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but he has he can veto when he trade, and

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his bird rights are not going to transfer if he

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gets so I think that adds like an interesting complication here.

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And so if I'm the Sixers, it's almost, oh, are

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you're going to just end up if you want to

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duck the tax? As Kelly Uber just the guy because

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he can't stop you, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it almost has to be. I think

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this does make it more likely that he stays the

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whole year, because one would assume, I mean, I don't

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know his agent have like some pie in the sky

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dreams about the sign and trade materializing, which tells me

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he just doesn't understand based of your compensation. And also like,

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I don't really know that his agent is giving the

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best advice here, so we should include that caveat. But

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assuming he's getting good representation, the agent would say it

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is in your best interest to decline any trade this

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year so that the Sixers can maintain your bird rights.

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If they want to resign your next summer, we can

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put all hard feelings aside and if they give you

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the biggest software, that's great, you stay with them. Otherwise

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you go explore teams with cap space. But as you noted,

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it's only going to be non bird rights that go

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with him to any team that goes with that, any

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team he gets traded to, so you know, is hit

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the max starting salary can get with non bird rights

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is in like the yeah, it's like it's not very high.

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I mean, I think the four year totals around forty

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five million, like way below.

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Speaker 1: With the non least, you're going to be looking at

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middle You're hoping for a non testair mid level exception.

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is going to be more practive with a mid level exception.

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So given all of this that you've just talked about,

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what then is the Sixers' actual endgame entering into this season?

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Because if this is a vote of no confidence in

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their cores, a title contender, which by the way, is

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fair because of the injuries to not just Jared McCain now,

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but like, what is Joel Embiid? What is Paul George?

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I understand it, But then what is the endgame? Because

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you have these two aging stars that are on massive

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contracts for at least the next three years on your roster,

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and in theory, if you get lucky and Joel Embiid

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is healthy, have you put yourself in the best position

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to optimize a healthy Joel Embiid? And if the answer

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raid him? Because that doesn't seem one that seems far

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fetched on so many levels. But I just I don't

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if they're not trying to catch lightening in a bottle,

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I guess is what I'm saying. I don't understand what

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they're attempting to do here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't either. I mean, I think that's a

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very fair crutch of their approach. And frankly, going back

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to the decision to go in on three max contracts

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to begin with, you could argue the only way it's

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going to work is if you basically flip a middle

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finger to the second apron and you're just willing to

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spend like it, you're gonna you're willing to spend whatever

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it takes to resign it when Grimes, even if you

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go over the second apron, then there will be a

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lot of team building restrictions with that, or maybe you

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don't go over, but you know, give them both twenty

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million dollars and you're like, you're still not facing the

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can't aggregate contracts, but still with the knickser dellery. Yeah,

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exactly exactly, because I like, you're already trying to thread

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the needle in this new team building model with a

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three max star build, and if you're also then going

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cheap on the supporting cast to the point where you're

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not willing to resign the guy who averaged twenty two,

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five and four for you over the final third of

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the season, it's like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: I will say last year they went into training camp

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like they were very clearly focused on the big picture.

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May in June and we're we're probably not going to

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play embid and Paul George in back to backs many,

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if at all, this year because we're just so laser

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focused on the playoffs, they forgot that they needed to

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make the playoffs first, which as it turned out, they

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did not do even come close to it. So this year,

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you know, one of the big running themes of media

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day was basically, like, we're taking it day by day.

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We know we have a lot to prove this year,

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Like Nick Nurse said, like we've got to work our way.

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Speaker 1: Back into the tournament.

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Speaker 2: So they are they are clear eyed that nothing is

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guaranteed for them this year, and it it sounds like

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they are fully expecting Joel Embiid to miss some time

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this year. Paul George is unclear if he's going to

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be ready to start the season. So one of the

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other running themes that they were discussing was.

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Speaker 3: Like, you you need to have an identity and a

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style that is you no matter who is playing on

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a game to game basis, this is what you are

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getting if you are playing the Philadelphia's Ebney Sixers, and what.

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Speaker 2: That is is not entirely clear. They draft a couple hints.

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I think we'll see it, you know, as soon as

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this first preseason game, but probably not till really the

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regular season. But I think that's kind of the big

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storyline going into the years, Like what is this new

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version of the Sixers that you know they are fully expecting.

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I mean, this is really the first time in Joel

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Embiid's career where they're going into a season not expecting

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to be carried him by on both ends of the court.

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Speaker 1: What do you think is then a realistic expectations for

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Joelle Embiid, Maybe not even from a we need him

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to be this, but like what is the franchise then

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actually counting on from him? Is it X number of

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games that would declare this as success or that they're

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targeting At this point, you also just default to it

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doesn't matter how much they manage him or try to

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manage him, like he's not going to be at heat

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form by the time the playoffs roll around anyway, Like

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how is if this is how they're approaching because it's

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almost like how the Pelicans at least previously tried to

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approach their team build with Zion Is we want to

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have this identity or is the ability to survive without him?

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And if that is how you're approaching a build around

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your ten pole star you've kind of already lost because

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like the whole theory of that team should be we want,

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we need to be at our peak when they are

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on the floor, And so what are their expectations or

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to you just like you're zoomed out, but he was like,

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what are just their expectations and views around Joel embiide

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right now?

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Speaker 2: Moving forward? Yeah, I'm trying to find the exact quote

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because Mariy specifically was asked, like, what are your expectations

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about Joel Embiid And yeah, he said, we're not getting

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into the expectations game. The doctor's advice what Joel said

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on listening to his body, which is a big component

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of how doctors managed injuries. So that's going to be

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what carries the day of this year. And Joe said

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the big quote that got earned the tention was I

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want to be as honest or be honest as possible.

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I think going forward just going to listen to the body.

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I'll be honest and say that it's going to be

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unpredictable at times and that's okay. We've got to work

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with that. We got to take it day by day

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and go from it. So again, I think they are

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implying both Joe and Maury and you know, Maxi, Nick Nurse,

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everyone basically saying like we are fully expecting Joel and

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Bi to miss time. We don't know how much, we

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don't know, you know. To me, that's saying, this is

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just a chronic condition he's going to deal with for

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the rest of his career. We'll never know the details

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of it until he retires, if if we ever get it,

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because that's just how they operate. But it sounds like

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it's it's it's just something that he's going to have

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to deal with. And so I don't think they're saying

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we are hoping for him to play fifth sixty games

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and thirty minutes a night. I think they're looking at

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it as like whatever we get out of him as

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a bonus, but we cannot count on him. I mean,

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last year was the first time in his career that

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he was not the leading scorer on the team, and

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you know, I would be surprised, I think if he

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was the leading scorer this year. I just think they're

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going to try to especially early in the year. I

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would imagine they're going to try to keep his minutes

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relatively in check and make sure we don't deal with

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kind of the up and down nature that we saw

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last year with his knee, Like, let's make sure everything

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is as good as it can be before we really

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start to ramp up. More so, I think they are

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they know that when Joe is on the floor, and

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Maxi has said this as well, like when we're going

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to have this style, but there are going to be

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exceptions when Joe's on the floor, he's going to get

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double team. Did that means we're going to play a

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different way to some extent, but we still need to

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have this central identity, which it seems to just be

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like we're gonna play fast, We're gonna be physical, we're

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gonna run up the floor. We're like, I think they're

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gonna be a little more fast paced than they have

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been in past years. At least that's what they've been

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alluding to, because they're one of the slower paced teams

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over the past two years under Nick Nurse, even when healthy,

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Embid was never the fastest guy up or down the floor.

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But now they have so many guards in the backcourt

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that I think they're To me, it sounds like they're

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trying to just become more of a backcourt centric and

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backcourt led team with MB and Paul George as like

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key supporting pillars, rather than we have built our team

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around these two guys and we have these young guards

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as the supporting test.

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Speaker 1: So I guess I have a two hoole question here then, is,

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even if you're usually not cut caveat to describe Jamal

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Embiid and Paul George, do they have the personnel that

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you believe? I know you mentioned that they're going to

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lean into the guard, so they have the personnel to

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play faster. I mean there's low hanging through where this

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team could just get out in transition, like they've been

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a load transition team for the most part for a while.

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But do they have the personnel to do that? And

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then two, how hard is that to maintain though where

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you're not only talking about joellemb being in and out

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of the lineup, but also Paul George being the same way,

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and how much is he buying into a scaled down

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role as part of all this? And then the other

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thing is how do you sort of balance Quenton grives

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it is now really going to be playing for his

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next contract that he has no idea whether it's going

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to come from the Sixers or or another team, Like

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how hard does it get to like the variables of

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the injuries. Okay, sure, but now just the variables of

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this is the type of personnel we have at the

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top of the roster versus also just like the circumstances

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of oh, we have this a bunch of guys just

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quitting drives like Helly Oubred, Junior Andre Drummond, even guys

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who have to understand that on some level they are

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placeholders here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. The other thing that caught my

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eye from media day was Nurse was talking about just

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the versatility that they have on the floor with all

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of these different cards, and I'm trying to see he

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specifically said, yeah, it should be able to keep energy

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up with some shorter stints just because of their sheer numbers,

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which was just so an anti Nick Nurse thing to say.

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I mean, you know, early last season Tyrese Max, who

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was playing like forty minutes a game when George and

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Embiid were out of the lineup and they suffered a

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hamstring injury, but even still like over the entire season

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thirty seven point seven minutes per game back at his

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Raptors' days. I mean, like you know, it was like

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Fred van Vliet Siaka Ojiananobi were often three of the

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top five or top ten if not top five in

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the NBA and total minutes played or minutes per game played.

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So he he's always kind of always got like the

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Canadian TIBs moniker to him. But I think we saw

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last year with the Thunder and with the Pacers in particular,

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that you know, kind of youth and depth might be

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ruling the day, especially in the regular season. I remember

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in the exit interview, Morey was kind of saying, like

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teams are just playing harder even in the regular season,

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Like usually you saw that more in the playoffs and

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they weren't playing as hard during the regular season. But

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now perhaps because teams are moving away from the three

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star model and like we have more just well rounded

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rosters across the league, Like teams that lean into their

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depth are fresher. And it sounds like the Sixers, at

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least in theory, have internalized that. So I think they're

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gonna kind of lean on that. And you know, going

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back to your point about the personnel, like they're pretty

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thin really at forward. It's Blubray, Yeah, Paul George, it's

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Justin Edwards, I guess. And then Trendon Watford who they

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signed this offseason, Like I think, uh Dominic Barlow and

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Jubari Walker, who both of them are on two way deals,

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Like I think they're they're gonna play real minutes for

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this team. The impression I get as they are planning

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on kind of leaning on their depth more than you

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would expect Adam.

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Speaker 1: A Nick Nurse team. Do you think when you're looking

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at them having so many guards who aren't white wings

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as how I would classify them in VJ. Edge, film

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in Flint and Grimes, in Jared McCain and Tyrese MAXI

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even in Kyle Lowry, Eric Gordon being on this roster,

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We're gonna see a lot of just like these are

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stuper Like we're talking VJ edgecumb Measure three seems like

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a default, but it's Oh Penton Grimes is like, are

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we gonna see a ton of that? Or are they

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gonna try and mitigate that maybe as much as possible.

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see a lot of that. Yeah,

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Nick Nurse specifically said and he could see VJ playing

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the one or the three even said he could see

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a four guard rotation at times, So yeah, I think

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three guard lineups are gonna happen a lot. Would not

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shock me if we even see some four guard looks,

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which is like the the ideal that six Ers fans

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have wanted to see you at Joel Embiid for years.

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The platonic ideal is just Embiid with fourteen guards, and

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we are so close. We are really the closest we've

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ever been to that. So yeah, I think, you know,

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like I was looking at rosters around the league last

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year as soon as he said that, and you know,

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the Pacers had Haliburt and Emhard Aaron E. Smith are

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all listed at six'. Five The cavs won sixty four

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games last, year Starting Darius garland who's six', One Donovan

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mitchell who's six. Three Max struz was out part of the,

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year BUT i think he started thirty seven games. Together

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he's six.' Five the warriors, last year, you know, Six'

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two stephen, Curry Sixty five moses, Moody Sixty five brandon pajemski,

477
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,680
Six To seven jimmy, Butler Sixty six straymont green that

478
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:01,160
was their starting lineup that, got the, playoffs.

479
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: WHICH yes but i also look at you can point

480
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,480
to one or two guys on that team or on those, teams,

481
00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:10,000
TO say oh i see them being able to defend

482
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,440
Bigger wings, or raymond's case like he can actually Hold

483
00:25:12,519 --> 00:25:15,000
up AGAINST biggs when i look, at the sixers just

484
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,720
as like this is, a sloppy example but whom? Do

485
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:20,039
you trust like who is the? Best wing defender do

486
00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:22,799
you trust the most to defend castlock wing Players OUT

487
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,200
of but i mean the Answer, is justin Edwards but

488
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,400
Between FLINT. And brod's vj edgecomb and like who Else You?

489
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,039
THROW paul george i guess you could throw into that

490
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,119
mix too when you look at, His advanced age AND

491
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,480
that's where i start, to, get like okay like what

492
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:37,880
are they supposed to do there defensively when you're looking

493
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,319
on the perimeter aside from just Over? Work justin EDWARDS.

494
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:43,559
Is it? Vj edgecomb's yet like who is who are

495
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:46,960
you trusting more? To defend wings? Out Of, That Troy Cuv, George, Edge,

496
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,799
COLEMAN roymes.

497
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,079
Speaker 2: YEAH i Think, i mean george as bad as he was,

498
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:57,079
offensively last year actually rated. Pretty well defensively so especially

499
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,680
if they're not putting as much of an offensive. LOAD on,

500
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:02,720
Him i mean father's, time is undefeated so we'll see what.

501
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:04,799
He looks like and he's coming off, a knee surgery

502
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,319
so certainly not bullish on him early. In the year

503
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,359
edgecomb it does sound like they've been very. Impressed so

504
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,559
far i'm sure there's gonna, be you know he was

505
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:18,240
saying his WELCOME to the nba moment was catching A Screen,

506
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,319
From Andre drummonds so i'm sure there's gonna be a

507
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,799
couple of those in the early going. To THE season

508
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,599
but i think that's what made him so Attractive to the,

509
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,880
sixers was, that you know he's got that defensive, Mentality

510
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,640
To him like maxie specifically. Called that out they just

511
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,680
like he's just a bulldog and he like really plays hard.

512
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,920
On EVERY possession so i think even if he doesn't have,

513
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,279
the you Know Like the jason, tatums went healthy Or

514
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,680
Like if lebron james is, playing, the three yeah they

515
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,200
don't really have the personnel to necessarily. Deal WITH that

516
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,759
and i think that's an area where if they Are,

517
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:03,079
healthy in, january you know in that Mix with The,

518
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,559
calves and knicks, potentially, as like oh this team actually

519
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,240
might be able to make some noise. IN the playoffs

520
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:10,839
i think that's the clear area that they would. Look

521
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,200
to upgrade but for, THE time being i think they're

522
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,359
kind of just gonna try to lean into their strengths

523
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,920
and if that means going more small ball and kind

524
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,319
of conceding that, as a, weakness you know they'll see what.

525
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,799
Other pressure points going small and having this many versatile

526
00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:32,160
playmakers on the floor creates for the, for the, opponents and,

527
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:35,519
like you know if they you see more of the playoffs, where, it's,

528
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:37,720
like oh okay we we found one thing and we're

529
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:39,640
just gonna spam it over. And over again but you

530
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,359
don't see that as much in the regular season if

531
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,880
You're Not playing. Doc rivers team at.

532
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,079
Speaker 1: Least you wonder if they go downsize, that much though

533
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,000
does it make it? Harder, To Wear Okay paul george

534
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,079
crad's out really well, Defensively last season but when you

535
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:54,039
look at like the assignments he's on to where it's

536
00:27:54,079 --> 00:27:55,799
like it's different going from, like all right You Go

537
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,319
defend miles Bridges Or a josh. Hard or somebody it's

538
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:01,640
just like easier to to send those, types of guys

539
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,400
and if you don't want him on like these sort

540
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,119
of power wings that are going to, control the offense

541
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,640
you'd rather See Him on andrew wiggins like or just

542
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,039
some like a wing. Of that Archetype And maybe andrew

543
00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:14,039
wiggins might, Be A stretch so i'm curious if downsizing could.

544
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,240
Hurt THEM there but i wanted to ask You about

545
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,319
j edgecomb kind of a twofold question of y'all already

546
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,640
kind of. Mentioned the defense how big or a role

547
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:24,960
do you expect him to play out, Of the gate

548
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,240
and then is there anything else about his fit on

549
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,160
this roster that especially intrigues you or maybe even concerned you?

550
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: In, YEAR one yeah i think this shooting is the swing.

551
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:37,799
Skill for him so if he, it seems, like you

552
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:40,480
know this is the time Of year that sixers fans

553
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:44,839
love to break down grainy footage, of you know still

554
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,039
frame shots or slowed down five second videos of shot

555
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:54,200
footage to see what a player's. Release looks like seems

556
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,839
like his released a little more in front of his

557
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,519
face and a little quicker than it was coming. Out

558
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:02,000
of college so, if that olds then if, you Know

559
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:07,200
what like i'm Not expecting a maxyes leap where not

560
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,359
really expected to be a great shooter coming, out of

561
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:11,559
college and then all of a sudden it was like

562
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:14,920
a forty percent. Shooter right away but if if he

563
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:19,200
is a neutral to positive, three point shooter that's going

564
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:22,759
to get him on the. Floor even, More you know

565
00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:26,119
i'm very curious to see how how it plays out

566
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,240
because obviously McCain is going to miss the first couple

567
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:31,359
of weeks of the SEASON with, the ucl injury so

568
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:35,440
One would think maxy is locked in as the Starting

569
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,640
point and beid will be match.

570
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,119
Speaker 1: If, he wasn't yeah well.

571
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:43,599
Speaker 2: The no'm, saying, i'm Saying yeah Like maxi at beid

572
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:45,559
are locked, In When healthy paul george is locked. In

573
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,279
when healthy we'll see if he's starts the. Season or

574
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:52,039
not but that kind of leaves. Two spots open One

575
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,680
would think ubra would get, one of them And Maybe

576
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,279
if paul george misses the first a little bit, Of

577
00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:02,079
the season ubery slides up. To the floor but, When

578
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,880
fully healthy i'm curious to See if It's edgecombe or

579
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:12,079
Grimes starting alongside, MAXE because, now i mean one of

580
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:15,920
the Many downsides of grimes taking this, qualifying offer, it

581
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:20,559
you know unless something drastically Changes between the sixers. And

582
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,200
his agent over the. Next nine months there was this

583
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:26,920
like massive gulf in where what he wanted And what

584
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,759
the sixers willing, to pay him and that kind of

585
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,480
sends the signal that this is probably your Last, year

586
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:37,160
in philly in Which case the sixers have more incentive

587
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:40,160
to work on The Development of edge foam and McCain

588
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,839
and Less. So WITH grime, so i wonder especially now

589
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:50,039
you know he not the training, camp is like so

590
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:53,400
the endl be all because it's two Days, for the sixers,

591
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,680
but you know the. Guys were, working they were like

592
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:57,839
most of them were in the facility for A, majority

593
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,519
Of september and grimes was not they because he was

594
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:05,839
still on. This CONTRACT dispute So i think edgecomb has

595
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,599
an early advantage in that. Regard over him we'll see

596
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:13,119
how things Play out whenever grimes does. Rejoin the, Team

597
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,400
but yeah i'm Not convinced that grimes is the starting

598
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,359
two guard to. Start, the season like it would not

599
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,240
totally shock me if, they just say You, know, what

600
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,519
edgephone like we need to see what we have in

601
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:28,319
This bj edge compkin and or maybe they start all, Three,

602
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:30,119
TOGETHER especially YEAH.

603
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,559
Speaker 1: I mean i think That would be i'm not saying you,

604
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:37,119
start all three But Really prioritizing edgecomb just this is

605
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,559
someone that you just used a top. Three pick on

606
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,079
if all you're saying about them wanting to kind of

607
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,039
establish an Identity Independent of Joelle Embian, and paul george

608
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,240
and they want that to be like, up the floor

609
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,759
like getting up and. Down the floor he's gonna give

610
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:54,960
you probably just based off his like he'll give you

611
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,960
more value, DEFENSIVELY against, wings i Think thanks fighting grimes.

612
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,720
At this point and the, other thing too is you

613
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:01,839
kind of mentioned this. AT the top i was looking

614
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,640
back at my summer league notes for, him JUST before

615
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:05,440
because i scoffed when you said like they could see

616
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,839
him playing the one in my, summer, league, notes like

617
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:10,319
oh like he's really calm and collected, on the ball

618
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:12,000
and he could work. On the ball it's the off

619
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,240
ball stuff, That is concerning like the jumper just. Never

620
00:32:15,319 --> 00:32:19,359
pop there so like you just have more equity invested

621
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,720
in him, At this point so it would be weird,

622
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,920
not to prioritize like you'll have to go, Through growing,

623
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,400
pains i'm sure but you've kind of already telegraphed with

624
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,759
what you've, done this offseason the way You Handled the

625
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:34,279
lenton grinch situation specifically that to some degree you are

626
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:38,680
looking at the bigger picture and maybe aren't as invested in,

627
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,640
the overall results not even just, regular season wins but

628
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,559
the overall results. Of this season and so he's clearly

629
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,680
more important for that longer Term Baseline than quentin grinds

630
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,000
would be.

631
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: At, this point right it's not like A full fledged warriors,

632
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,160
two Timeline model because maxi is kind of that bridge

633
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,720
where he's young enough that he could be part of,

634
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,920
that next generation but he is also good enough that if,

635
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,359
they You know IF george and nb do stay healthy,

636
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:07,960
and they surprised then like he's still going to be locked,

637
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,039
into that lineup and maybe They do prioritize grimes at

638
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,279
That point if edgecumb does have, some early struggles but,

639
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:17,519
AS you said i think they've invested enough in him

640
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:20,839
and they are kind of towing the line between like

641
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:24,839
if things continue to Go south with george and, MB's

642
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,960
health wise like we need to start looking ahead big

643
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,920
picture to whatever the next iteration of, this team is,

644
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,319
and you know barring, a complete disaster and or whatever

645
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,000
happens with. The aspiration, scandal you know this is probably

646
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:42,200
going to be the last top three Pick that the

647
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,240
sixers get, for a while so they need edgecumb To Really, hit.

648
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: Jeremy king assuming that he's going to get and stay healthy.

649
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,279
At some point what is the area of his development

650
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400
that you'll be tracking most? Closely, THIS year yeah i think.

651
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: IT'S gotta, defense i mean that was. The big question

652
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:06,720
like he was so dynamic offensively as a playmaker, as

653
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:11,000
a shooter really took some Pressure. Off of, MAXIE you

654
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:13,719
Know i think max he really struggled early LAST season

655
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,639
when mbi especially was out on the floor and teams

656
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:22,079
could throw so much more defensive attention at him than he.

657
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,400
Was used to and having that secondary playmaker and mccainnon

658
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,079
on the floor was a godsend for him. In that,

659
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:32,159
REGARD and, like i, mean you know it's a, distant

660
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,079
memory now But, In mid december jared McCain looked like

661
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:40,119
the runaway. Favorite, when rookie yeah but the question was even,

662
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:41,559
at the time both of those guys are, six to

663
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:45,400
two can you play them together, or, if not like

664
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:48,880
is McCain just going to be a six man like

665
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,599
a really really good six man, For this team but

666
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,800
what does that mean for his, long term future especially

667
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,039
now in the CONTEXT Of the vj edgecump, Pick as

668
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,280
well like can those three guys play to? Together LONG

669
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:07,320
term so i think how, Really like uh maxy McCain

670
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,360
backcourt fairs defensively is, probably you know they have a

671
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,039
lot to sort out with. Those four guys grimes his

672
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:20,039
future obviously, beyond this year but, like big Picture can

673
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:24,559
our maxi, McCain compatible defensively i think kind of determines

674
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,519
where they go next in terms of where your two,

675
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,760
starting backcourt players assuming you you have a, more traditional lineup,

676
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,039
and you know is McCain going to be could he

677
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:39,280
be in that lineup or is he like destined to

678
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,800
be a six man on this team and does that

679
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,639
make him some very high end trade bait a year or?

680
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:45,840
Two from now is there an.

681
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,119
Speaker 1: Urgency to kind of figure that out sooner, rather than

682
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,840
later just because You do have maxie under contract and

683
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,880
mccainson be cost controlled for, another few years but you

684
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,960
still do have these veterans on The roster And embiid

685
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,800
and george and so it's you're not totally slow, playing

686
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,320
this thing and so don't you kind of want like

687
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:05,199
a real, Meaningful, glimpse toto well what does it look

688
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,679
like when these? Two play together and what would? Be

689
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:09,199
our ceiling or do they even not? HAVE the books i,

690
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:10,840
WOULD argue defensively i don't know if they have the

691
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,519
personnel to really get the best type Of, look at

692
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:16,199
well what does this look like if we view them

693
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:16,880
as the back course.

694
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,559
Speaker 2: Of, THE future YEAH i mean i. Think there is

695
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,079
there's probably More urgency with grimes just since he's up,

696
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:26,880
after this season whereas McCain you got two more years

697
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,800
before he. Becomes extension, eligible but like certainly you do

698
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,440
not Want to have jared McCain be your ninth man

699
00:36:33,519 --> 00:36:35,840
and playing five minutes per game, off the Bench like

700
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,159
they whenever he is healthy, enough to play he, should

701
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:40,719
be playing and he should be. Playing a lot and

702
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,880
you should, be experimenting, with you know which, combinations of

703
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,320
Players Whether, It's maxie edgecombe Grimes and be george some

704
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,159
of the other guys in the roster are like who

705
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:52,800
does he? Work best with what archetypes of players is,

706
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,480
he compatible, with you know and how does that fit

707
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:58,320
with our bigger picture vision of how this roster is

708
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,360
moving forward.

709
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,199
Speaker 1: Over Your Impressions of justin edwards' season and his role

710
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,039
on this. TEAM moving forward i also will HAVE you

711
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,800
know i gave him a my LAST redraft that I

712
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,239
did because i redrafted the twenty TWENTY four class i

713
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,840
think three times throughout the. Season, last year sure he.

714
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,400
Came very Close At the, ALL star one i had,

715
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,400
him number fifteen and in my Final, ONE in april

716
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,920
i dropped him down to NUMBER twenty because i actually

717
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,840
THINK that he's i don't think he's going to, be

718
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,760
a star, to Be clear becau he's just a six

719
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,960
foot eight inch wing who understands how to, shoot AND

720
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,559
descend and i somehow feel like that when we're talking,

721
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,400
about younger players that we don't appreciate.

722
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: That. Nearly, ENOUGH yeah, yeah i mean he was an absolute,

723
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,440
revelation for them and they got him on a very

724
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,000
affordable contract for the next. Couple of seasons so a

725
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:53,119
god send all around for a team, with you know

726
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,400
three very expensive contracts to find a rotation caliber wing

727
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:02,880
and it's even cheaper than a minimum, DEAL this year

728
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,360
i guess it's the One year, MIN so, YEAH i

729
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,400
mean i think, to your point like the fact that

730
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,519
they don't have a ton of Forward depth Behind ubray

731
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,320
and george means he's gonna have to. Play a lot

732
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:20,760
morey brought him up unprompted a lot at the end,

733
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,960
of last Season Him and adam, bona about, like you

734
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,519
know young guys who they see as kind of key

735
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:31,119
to this. ROSTER moving, FORWARD i mean i think he

736
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:36,760
Really Struggled in, summer league obviously not like some guys

737
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,840
it the format is just not for what. They're, GOOD

738
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,360
at like i Don't Know that justin edwards has got

739
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,280
like multi time. ALL start upside i think he is

740
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:49,639
just going to be a really. Good role player but

741
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,639
like you can carve out a ten year CAREER in

742
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:54,400
the nba just being A three and, D ROLE player

743
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,880
and i think, that's you know when he's surrounded by

744
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,239
stars and he's not drawing a ton of defensive attention

745
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,440
and just needs an knock down open shots, and defend

746
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,039
well he is more than capable. Of DOING that so

747
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:07,840
i think just seeing that with the fully healthy version. Of,

748
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,440
this team again they've got him under contract, for three

749
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:15,320
years so it's not like there's no urgency, to figure,

750
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,880
out you know do we need to resign this. Guy

751
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,159
next summer they've got, him locked in but you still want,

752
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:25,559
to figure out like can we rely on this guy

753
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:29,639
as a key wing? Piece moving forward and you know

754
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,119
we joked about the, tax dump earlier but like if

755
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:36,519
they do decide to go Tax Dump in kelly hubray,

756
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:39,119
at the Deadline Like is justin edwards ready for an?

757
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:40,199
Even bigger role at that.

758
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: Point you mentioned a bunch of like the Different Bigs,

759
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,559
Before jabari Walker, trent and watford we'd like kind of

760
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:50,480
A Big there's, audrey drummons here they Have. A Den

761
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:53,199
bona nick nurse had said that there's just this open

762
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:58,199
Competition for non. Embid big minutes how from your, aspective

763
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,480
right now like who intrigues you? The most of and

764
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,400
do we also see the sixers maybe lean into more

765
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,360
of where we saw a lot of Yab we sell he,

766
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,119
at the five should we expect to see A Lot

767
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,639
of trenton wafford? At the five Maybe If even jabari

768
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,000
walker playing a? Ton of five do you think that's a,

769
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,159
look Without again without embid, on the court that you

770
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:15,519
see them.

771
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:21,119
Speaker 2: End, UP favoring yeah i mean in games where, embiid

772
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:25,119
doesn't play. IT'S certainly possible i think they had to

773
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:29,119
get really weird last year at the five because Not

774
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:31,840
only was embiid, so Banged up but drummond. Was as

775
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,599
well he missed a ton of time with, a toe

776
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:35,920
injury and even when, he came back he didn't look like.

777
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,400
His former self sounds like he's been full, go this

778
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,880
YEAR and so i think they'll probably be a little

779
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,920
more Traditional With just drummond bona In the, non embiid

780
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,559
games and Then obviously, when embid players you can y

781
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,599
very traditional. With THOSE three so i mean, of that

782
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:56,480
Group like und drummond is who he is. At this,

783
00:40:56,559 --> 00:41:00,559
point you know he's in. His early thirties he's not

784
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,079
GOING to, suddenly i mean unless they have been hiding,

785
00:41:05,079 --> 00:41:07,079
This FROM us like i don't think he's got like

786
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:11,880
A Late career brick lopez three point bomber. TURN in

787
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,440
him i think he's, just gonna, be you, know slow

788
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,599
footed pick, and roll defender but one of the best rebounders,

789
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:21,079
of his generation and you're gonna just live with. THOSE

790
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:25,519
trade Offs i think bona is the guy that they've

791
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:28,559
kind of been hyping up as he made some real.

792
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:30,679
Strides this summer you saw it a Little. BIT in

793
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:34,960
EuroBasket i think drumken said he added two inches to

794
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:38,519
his vertical, over the summer so he's gonna.

795
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: Won't do that how do you just add two inches?

796
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,079
To your? Vertical is it i'm assuming it's easier than

797
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,719
just growing two inches Like derrif f. Liveley apparently did.

798
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: You're you're telling me you don't add two inches to your.

799
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:50,159
Vert every, summer, come on man you got we. Just

800
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:50,639
got SOME.

801
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,679
Speaker 1: Last time i, CHECKED my vertical i think. It, WAS negative.

802
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know it's. A good question i don't,

803
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,960
think we uh they guess asked that, at media day but.

804
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:06,280
WELL we'll, see i mean he's, got the, youth the

805
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,800
springiness the EXPLOSIVENESS that, they've, i mean honestly Like, especially

806
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,920
under mary they've just churned it through, Like You, know DeAndre,

807
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:18,599
jordan All Millsap, the wayne deadman just like name a

808
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,639
washed thirty something and that has been their answer behind

809
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:24,679
embid for most of the. Past three years so it's.

810
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,480
NICE to, see I Mean like.

811
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,039
Speaker 1: Dodd gift is just sitting out there now all come

812
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:30,719
out of retirement right an they got an.

813
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: Open, roster spot man now they got money. TO spend

814
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,679
too i mean that Was What made beeball paul, such

815
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:41,079
a revelation was like he was just this lightning bolt

816
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:43,639
of energy that they otherwise. Did NOT have And i

817
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:47,119
think bona's gonna function in. That same role so he's

818
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:49,360
another one where he's locked up cheap for another. Couple

819
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,519
of years and when you've got, these big, contracts you

820
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,559
know any any hits, you can find especially in, the

821
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:57,039
second round are worth their. Weight IN gold so i.

822
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,599
Think they are they're Certainly hoping that bona is Of

823
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,039
that ill so.

824
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,599
Speaker 1: What are sort of, the out like how do you

825
00:43:03,679 --> 00:43:07,719
view the outlines? Of HIS game the I called, HIM

826
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,280
i was i don't CARE remember if i post on

827
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,920
social media, or wrote it but he reminds me of

828
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,840
Like A, healthy robert Williams But with mitchell robinson's kind. Of,

829
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,320
OFFENSIVE instincts.

830
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: Okay. I like it. I, LIKE it yeah i mean.

831
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: YOU'RE not, Well I mean mitchell robinson's offensive instincts are

832
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:23,840
a little but.

833
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: Those aren't, Great, BUT right Yeah i mean bona's average

834
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,559
shot distance last year was two, point three feet so

835
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:31,800
did not.

836
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,119
Speaker 1: Was his a sistraight higher or? Lower? Than, this yeah?

837
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: Sports what's? Out? Let's GO yeah so I mean you're,

838
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,039
i don't know we'll see like kind of what strides

839
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:45,920
he made last year because they didn't really ask a.

840
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Ton of, him you know late, in the year he

841
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,440
actually did, show some flashes so, it, was like oh,

842
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,960
they you know they they. MIGHT have something i. Think,

843
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,480
It was yeah i'm trying to pull. It UP here, the,

844
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,360
i mean again this Is this. Is grimes territory so

845
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,920
we're playing out the string on a, completely lost season

846
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,119
but final nine games of the year in which they went,

847
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,519
one in eight so keep. That in mind but he,

848
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:15,519
had fifteen, points nine, rebounds three blocks and thirty one.

849
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:19,119
Minutes A game so, I don't, know i mean if

850
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:24,360
we if he used that to propel himself and that Carries,

851
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,639
over to EuroBasket and That, is played EuroBasket carries over

852
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,280
to year or TWO. IN the, Nba i mean drummond

853
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,719
made it sound like he's just kind of more confident in.

854
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,840
Himself all around he, just positioning wise news where he's.

855
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,719
SUPPOSED to, be i, think you know he's gonna jump

856
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,519
out of the gym as. A shot, blocker but yeah

857
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:51,519
you're probably not expecting a ton OF's offense beyond just

858
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,519
loobs and put back dunks. To the basket.

859
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,679
Speaker 1: She would Be another bell weather for how invested are

860
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,239
they in developing for the? Future, this season right BECAUSE what,

861
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Is I know audre, drummond's traditionally huge but you should

862
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,639
be investing in Playing time in boda over him at

863
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:10,719
this point if you're trying to figure out what's What's

864
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,280
Next after joel embiid or during This Stage of joel

865
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,239
beat's career where he's playing who knows how much and,

866
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,960
even you know you mentioned their identity about wanting, to

867
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,639
Play fast like i'd probably. Rather, see, That okay Downsize

868
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:24,639
trent and wofford will give you grab and ghot stuff.

869
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:27,239
At the five you will, be woefully undersized but that

870
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,400
might just be, The case anyway and You've never been

871
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,880
they've always been a team that. Like should Have They,

872
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,360
have joel ebiid who's, just this behemoth and then you

873
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,480
look at their rebounding numbers and it's always just, kind,

874
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,360
of like, yeah like whatever so let's punt.

875
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,119
Speaker 2: On, that anyway yeah embad is he's always been a

876
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:46,239
good rebounder because he's bigger, than everyone else but he's

877
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,719
never been like a good rebounder in. TERMS of technique

878
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,639
i think he could learn A lot from drummond in That, regard,

879
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:56,519
WITH frankly like i don't want him to be in

880
00:45:56,599 --> 00:46:00,880
those scrums, by THE basket So i don't i'm okay

881
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,079
with him sitting. It out there But like low ki

882
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:07,400
has not been a great rebounder or A great screener frankly.

883
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:15,079
Speaker 1: So, given the sixers, is financial situation The, Uncertainty surrounding Joelle.

884
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:18,440
Embiid and george what we've seen from them, this saw

885
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:23,000
season the approach they say they're taking. For this season

886
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:26,519
what is their potential or what would we view them

887
00:46:26,519 --> 00:46:29,159
as again? Entering this year so much can play out based. On,

888
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:32,079
the results well what do we view them as in

889
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:36,679
a mid? Season transaction market is it we already mentioned

890
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,599
that they'll probably try, to duct attacks but is there

891
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:40,920
will go room to where if they're good that they

892
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,519
might want.

893
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: To actually make an acquisition that makes.

894
00:46:43,039 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Them better or are they more likely to do something

895
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:48,079
nuclear with trying to get off longer term?

896
00:46:48,199 --> 00:46:55,519
Speaker 2: Money THIS year, this i mean one would hope That

897
00:46:55,679 --> 00:46:58,760
if All george and embiid are Healthy. IN mid january

898
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,599
i know there's a lot of Time between mid January,

899
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:05,039
and mid april, but you know if they get off

900
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,000
on a positive foot this year and they are in

901
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:12,239
the mix for one of the top few Seeds, in

902
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,599
the east given the state current State of the, east

903
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:17,639
right now and that they're probably never going to have

904
00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:20,519
a runway, like this again one would hope they would

905
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,440
be willing. To be buyers because they've already ducked the

906
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,800
tax the last. Couple of years they've reset the clock

907
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,280
on the. Repeater attacks entirely there is not an issue

908
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:27,599
for them.

909
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,079
Speaker 1: Hanging the.

910
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:33,679
Speaker 2: BANNER hang, IT i mean i think like every year

911
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,360
that they do it radicalizes me. More and more, but

912
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:40,880
this year if, they did it That REALLY might like

913
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,000
i ALREADY wrote a i think TWELVE hundred word da

914
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:47,000
tribe last YEAR About the kJ MARTIN trade because i was.

915
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,599
Just so mad, it was like you are. Wasting this

916
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:51,880
contract you don't. Have any contracts you don't have any

917
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,119
of these like eight million dollar contracts that you can

918
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,239
trade and that you. Can get aggregate and so you

919
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,000
have this one that has. A team option you could.

920
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:04,280
Just decline it so the only effect is on your cap.

921
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,199
Sheet this year it has no bearing on your cap

922
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,239
sheet next year if you don't want it to and

923
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,119
you paid two second round picks to get off, of

924
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:12,119
that deal just speky gawn, of the tack even though

925
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,960
you already reset clock of the repeater at tacks. By

926
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,880
that point if they, do that again when, this is,

927
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,760
Like You know paul george is. Already thirty five When You,

928
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,239
signed paul, george you, figure you know the last two

929
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,199
years of the, contract could suck but at least we got.

930
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,000
These first two would take a real. Swing at it

931
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,199
last year obviously went to hell for a, Number of

932
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,119
reasons like this really could be their last best swing,

933
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,719
at this thing with. This BIG desity so i would

934
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,760
really sincerely hope that they are not automatically in duck.

935
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,679
The tax mode but given how they have operated over the,

936
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,760
LAST few Years i am I'm skeptical until i'm until. They,

937
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,960
Prove otherwise.

938
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,199
Speaker 1: Dude joelle And Being and paul george relative to team

939
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,320
friendliness the two worst CONTRACTS in the. NBA right now.

940
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:06,599
Speaker 2: I can't think. OF who's, worse I mean.

941
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: Like bradley b obeing off the Books that bay claw

942
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:11,760
is just kind of fluttering into the wind, hurts For Sure.

943
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 2: And jeremy grant would be the only other one that.

944
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,559
Comes to. Mind RIGHT away, but i mean just, YOU

945
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:16,840
know what.

946
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,519
Speaker 1: I would NOMINATE just because i think he's so useless

947
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:24,480
and the contract. Goes On Forever, Who patrick, williams.

948
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,519
Speaker 2: Oh, sure, Yeah yeah yeah.

949
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:29,039
Speaker 1: Like there are kindergarteners who are just being born that

950
00:49:29,159 --> 00:49:31,400
will see the End Of this patrick williams contract that

951
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,159
he's got a, Player option, basically SO yeah but i think.

952
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:39,719
They MIGHT be AND i still i remember celebrating what they.

953
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,639
DID last OFFSEASON i think i gave him like an

954
00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:44,920
eight plus plus plus on. THEIR offseason GRADES i still

955
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,800
i know he said this on me today that he

956
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,960
has basically twenty of high level basketball left. IN the

957
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,360
tank i kind Of Believe that paul george can still.

958
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,760
BE really GOOD i think i mentioned the words. SCALE

959
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,400
down before i think his game is one that can

960
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,039
be scaled down to make a, high level impact and

961
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:05,639
it'll just be a matter of will he. Be healthy enough,

962
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:08,280
and with him This isn't A joelle and bee situation

963
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,639
with a bunch of. These chronic injuries it does feel

964
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:12,320
like he's had like a lot of shoulder stuff maybe,

965
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,480
throughout his career but like he just has these injuries

966
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,000
that kind. Of crop UP and so i, really think

967
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:22,400
that and not that his contracts will suddenly become movable

968
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,800
if they wanted, it to be like they'll become. A

969
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,360
TRADE asset but i think that like sort of the

970
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,760
when we're looking at the twenty Five twenty six sixers

971
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,559
and wondering how good. They could be THE thing that

972
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,519
i just feel like we're not factoring in, enough is

973
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:38,280
Like What if paul george Is Not The Paul george

974
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:40,199
paul george or Anything close to Like What if paul

975
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:43,039
george is just seventy seventy five Percent Of the paul

976
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:46,119
George that the sixers thought, they were signing or fifty

977
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:48,880
percent more available than he, was last year which will

978
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,079
help their defense for. SURE at least i like a

979
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:54,960
lot of people Can't. Quit the sixers i'm kind of Out,

980
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,400
on THE sixers but I Can't quit paul george as

981
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,360
the basketball player.

982
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,159
Speaker 2: FOR some, Reason i mean i've. HAD this thought i

983
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,079
go back and forth A lot where i Feel like the,

984
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:08,360
sixers in general when expectations are high is when they

985
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,079
crap the, bed the hardest and then when there, are

986
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,119
zero expectations that's when they surprise and are actually. Better

987
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:17,599
THAN expected so i think because people are so low

988
00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:20,480
on them this year just by virtue of how this,

989
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,519
thing goes historically like this will be one of. The,

990
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:28,159
UP years, yeah i Mean like obviously george missed off

991
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,199
last season effectively with just a. Variety of injuries it

992
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,239
was just so ineffective. When he played he says he's

993
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,400
feeling better than he, did last year and, he, also said,

994
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,559
like you know just. Having more comfort he's been in

995
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,719
the system for a year and knows, his teammates, better

996
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,880
like personally, is just settled like knows where his kids are,

997
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,679
going to school knows. Where he's, living you know these

998
00:51:53,679 --> 00:51:57,239
are champagne problems for someone making two, hundred million, dollars but,

999
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,280
like you know it's still these, are people too oh

1000
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,840
and like that much turmoil over a two or, Three

1001
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,000
month span, LIKE you know i moved the last year with.

1002
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:09,760
Two small kids. It really sucks but.

1003
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,119
Speaker 1: Just, the thing is you make more than two. Hundred

1004
00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:14,159
MILLION dollars so i just can't ever.

1005
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: Thiz was here all all of my many helpers have

1006
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,039
really he's. A transition, here BUT yeah, so I think

1007
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,519
like i don't think he's going to be ready to.

1008
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:26,480
Start the year at least he didn't make it, Sound that,

1009
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:29,639
WAY but YEAH I mean i i think there's a

1010
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,880
real chance that he has some semblance of a. BOUNCE back,

1011
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,599
Year i mean morey, has basically said like we never

1012
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,360
got To See the paul george We expected because embiid

1013
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:42,280
was out of the, lineup so much and like we

1014
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,800
didn't When We. Signed paul george we did not expect

1015
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,920
him to be twenty Seven Year old paul george who can,

1016
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,719
carry You Know the indiana pacers. The conference finals like

1017
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,559
that player is. No longer there we thought he could

1018
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,760
carry the team for ten minutes A game when embiid

1019
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,639
was out, of the Lineup or when maxi's out of

1020
00:52:56,679 --> 00:52:59,840
the lineup or off the floor on. A given night

1021
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:02,559
but like we put him in a position that. We

1022
00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:06,960
didn't anticipate so if mbad is healthy or even, if

1023
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:12,440
he's not and they just lean into this four guard hydra.

1024
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:16,440
THAT they have I Think, WITH paul george i mean

1025
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,960
he's low ki been the third splash brother for most of.

1026
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,199
The past decade like he's been one of the best

1027
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,880
high volume SHOOTERS. In the nba how horrible you're, Shooting

1028
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,119
last year but one would think we're going to get

1029
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:35,000
some positive aggressions to. The Mean there so i'm cautiously optimistic,

1030
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,039
about his outlook, but know, that, You know again i'm

1031
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:41,199
not expecting him to play anywhere close to eighty two.

1032
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,000
Minutes a game.

1033
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:45,199
Speaker 1: What does A scale down i meant to Ask Some

1034
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,880
for joel embiid look like at, the offensive end is

1035
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,159
it just more pick and pop to where or is

1036
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:52,920
that that you're, looking at all that he's? Taking more

1037
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,880
jumpers is that? Necessarily good form but what does A

1038
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,719
scale Down joel and.

1039
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,639
Speaker 2: BEIID look like i think he was joking at some point.

1040
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,679
During training, Camp He's like i'm i'm just gonna stay in.

1041
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,079
The dunker spot everyone else can to go. Do THEIR

1042
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:08,159
thing so i don't think that's. Actually gonna happen, BUT

1043
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,840
you know i just don't think he necessarily needs to

1044
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:16,320
be as involved in every action, or you know oftentimes

1045
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:20,519
It was the sixers Offense Was with james harden, was

1046
00:54:20,599 --> 00:54:23,039
just run pick and roll with him and that if he,

1047
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:25,440
gets double teamed to have him pass it out. To

1048
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:30,320
whoever's open but like more, often than not possessions were.

1049
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,440
RUNNING through him i know that they need to, As

1050
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,440
much anymore like maybe maybe there is more of a

1051
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,760
focus on him setting, good hard screens although that worries

1052
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,400
me from a wear, and tear, standpoint but, like oh.

1053
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah THE point but, I you know i out. To

1054
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:51,480
the Corner Kevin loves circa cleveland treat and we're.

1055
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: Right, Right exactly yeah, SO you know i think they

1056
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,920
have enough firepower that he does not Need to be

1057
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:04,199
we need to run this entire. Offense through him we

1058
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,920
need to have him touch the ball. On every possession

1059
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:11,119
they've got enough guys who can create. Shots without, him,

1060
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:13,239
BUT yeah man i. Think you know that was the question,

1061
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,199
he was asked was like are you willing to take

1062
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,840
kind of a step back? And scale down and the

1063
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,880
answer he gave was not entirely encouraging because he, BASICALLY

1064
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,639
was like i don't really know how. To do That

1065
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:27,480
like when i'm, On the floor i'm. ON the floor

1066
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:28,760
i just want to play as hard. As they, can

1067
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,840
it's like, that's that's great but we also want you

1068
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,440
to stay on The, Floor through April. May and june

1069
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:38,000
and they.

1070
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: Also and it's not people like an effort saying it

1071
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,840
would be more of an Adaptability thing towards they're not

1072
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,400
asking you. To half asset they're asking you not to

1073
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,360
have a usage rate like finish forty percent of our

1074
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,320
offensive possessions when you're off the pool, and.

1075
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:54,039
Speaker 2: Right exactly yeah.

1076
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: Are you ready to enter the cookie cutter slash. Lightning

1077
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,199
round portion, let's, Do it asked?

1078
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,559
Speaker 2: Let's do it Looking at.

1079
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: The philadelphia seventy six, ers on paper what is their

1080
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,920
single biggest, need to you? Aside from, healthy joel ebiid please.

1081
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,360
Don't cop out you say, that new ownership.

1082
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:17,559
Speaker 2: And you said it with, A straight face. SO cut,

1083
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:22,519
off i mean we've talked about the tax cut it but,

1084
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:27,239
LIKE you know i think even In this second apron era,

1085
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,800
where a teams Even People's richest steve baumer are blocking

1086
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,840
it going, into that territory but there's still there's still

1087
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,199
a window Between Tax And second apron and if you're

1088
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,639
not willing to play in that window or sign some

1089
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:49,000
unconventional or sorry arrange some, unconventional endorsement deals then you're

1090
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:51,320
you're gonna be behind the eight ball compared to some of.

1091
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,119
These other contenders so you.

1092
00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:56,079
Speaker 1: Think that this might have more to do with ownership

1093
00:56:56,159 --> 00:56:58,960
than Just, after extending joel like things have gone so

1094
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:01,760
poorly since They still to Joelle Embiide inside paul george

1095
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,920
that they've just decided, we're not investing like this core is.

1096
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,559
OBSOLETE to us.

1097
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:10,519
Speaker 2: I think there have just been some running themes That Pre,

1098
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:16,599
Eight Darryl Murray nick, nurse doc rivers like throughout their

1099
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,000
entire this going back to the start of, the process

1100
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:23,840
era like there's been one constant and It's not. Even

1101
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,400
joel embiid so it just leads.

1102
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,559
Speaker 1: You, to thought, hey dam, McDaniels either simple, you know

1103
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:33,559
what he would have absolutely ruled in.

1104
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: TWENTY twenty five, i still. BELIEVE thank you.

1105
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:40,559
Speaker 1: I believe too we're on. The same page there is

1106
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:45,159
there anything, about, this, team, storyline, development law strength whatever

1107
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:48,599
that's flying under the radar that you believe deserves more of. A,

1108
00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:50,039
NATIONAL spotlight.

1109
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean i think it's like the the offseason

1110
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,920
moves that they made This Summer non. QUENTIN grimes division

1111
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,599
i Think the Trendon Watford get Jabaria Walker and dominic barlow,

1112
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:05,800
on two ways like obviously not splashy moves compared to

1113
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,800
some of the other stuff that, happened this, YEAR but

1114
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:11,559
again i think those guys are going to play meaningful

1115
00:58:11,679 --> 00:58:15,039
roles and it kind of fit into this larger vision

1116
00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:17,519
of we want, to get, younger more, dynamic more. ATHLETIC

1117
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,119
more versatile i think those guys could play a sneaky big.

1118
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:23,519
Role in that you did.

1119
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,159
Speaker 1: Warm my heart before you said That You think dominic

1120
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:25,679
barlow is going.

1121
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: To play big i'm A Big. Dumb. DOMINIC barlow apparently

1122
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:31,639
i was talking To People at liberty, BALLERS to Say

1123
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:33,840
I guess nick nurse has been singing his praises, at

1124
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,639
training camp.

1125
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:37,599
Speaker 1: And we all know that that is definitely like a

1126
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,639
prelude of what. Is to come, all the time coach. Is,

1127
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:43,960
NEVER alive okay i know this is going to be,

1128
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,960
hard for you but, take a moment pose your eyes

1129
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:51,199
and envision the sixer. Are fully healthy what does a

1130
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,639
ten man? Rotation look like who are the five starters

1131
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:56,800
and who are your five? Most, years, preserves yes.

1132
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:03,239
Speaker 2: YEAH that's, interesting, i mean honestly it sounds like the

1133
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,639
starters are, going to vary possibly on a game, to

1134
00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:08,519
game basis even. When, THEY'RE healthy like, I don't know

1135
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:14,679
nurse made it sound like he wants to be. Adaptable

1136
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:18,199
this year so like if they're playing a, three guard

1137
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,679
team it would not shock me if they just match

1138
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:24,519
and go with three guards in their starting. LINEUP as

1139
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:30,360
well i, think generally speaking if everyone stayed healthy for

1140
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:37,360
forty or all of, The two Games, Maxi Edgeco oubray

1141
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:43,960
george embiid. Are The starters McCain grimes are the two

1142
00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:49,679
key guys. Off the bench drummond it's the, main backup

1143
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,800
center although one Would hope that bonus applants him at some.

1144
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,280
Point this year justinwards is the key wing. Off the

1145
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:02,480
Bench and, THEN watford, Apparently i mean nurse sounds Very,

1146
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:05,320
high on Watford and then maury chimed, in And said

1147
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,679
like nurse has been trying to get him on the sixers,

1148
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:09,239
for a while said he's been a good fit. For

1149
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,119
A while SO i Think i think nurse has a

1150
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:14,559
soft Spot. FOR trendon watford i.

1151
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: Think if they want to be able, to like Push

1152
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,519
especially after lodve dribbles like he would be. Someone who

1153
01:00:18,519 --> 01:00:20,239
plays those are the ten place even if you don't

1154
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:22,639
believe in. The starting, lineup, being said so those are

1155
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:24,360
the ten players for WHAT is worth i. Have jotted,

1156
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:25,880
down it's like if these were going to be the,

1157
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,239
MOST used, guys i think given what you've said, ON

1158
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,039
this podcast I would rather bona be one Of them

1159
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:33,880
than drummond at this point because it doesn't Seem like

1160
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,440
the sixers are overleaked concerned with being. URGENT this year

1161
01:00:38,519 --> 01:00:40,760
i GUESS which is i kind, of understand it but

1162
01:00:41,199 --> 01:00:43,280
it also is kind of a. Bummer either way i'd

1163
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,440
like to See hopefully maybe bona is the one that

1164
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,880
we got wrong collectively. On, That front yes so Let's

1165
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,559
say the sixers are trying to win again and. THEY'RE

1166
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:54,800
fully healthy i know this will also, be matchup dependent

1167
01:00:55,159 --> 01:00:58,199
but what should be their go to closing the crunch

1168
01:00:58,239 --> 01:00:59,800
time lineup that sees The, MOST.

1169
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:04,679
Speaker 2: Run yeah i mean it Depends on how edgecomb looks

1170
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,599
early in the Year and how. Uber's shot is because

1171
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:11,239
he was off and. ON last year i think he

1172
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,519
will be the one spot that's up for grabs other

1173
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:19,639
than like the. Two guard spot so it would not

1174
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,559
shock me if they do A, Three Guard Maxy Grime's,

1175
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:29,079
edgecomb george embi and that's making a lot Of assumptions

1176
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:33,880
about edgecomb hitting the Ground running about grime's hard feelings

1177
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:37,800
toward the organization not carrying over. To the floor so

1178
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,800
McCain could be, In that mix ubray could be. IN

1179
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,840
that mix i think those are the seven, in some

1180
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,920
capacity and it's really just pick And, Shoot, Between grimes

1181
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:54,360
edgecombe Ubray McCain alongside. Max george embiid i'd like.

1182
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,199
Speaker 1: That should follow be? The right answer is there? A

1183
01:01:57,199 --> 01:02:00,000
weirdo lineup you Want To see nick nurse? Try? This year?

1184
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: YEAH hell yeah i want to? See, four guards man

1185
01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:06,159
let's see all FOUR. Guards and empi, we have been,

1186
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,880
this has been this dream has dangled in front of

1187
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,559
our face. For so long let's. Just see it it's

1188
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:15,079
probably not gonna work because You're Gonna Have edge comer.

1189
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:17,800
Grimes guarding forwards that that feels like a. Recipe for

1190
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:22,920
disaster but all four of those guys could fly up

1191
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,519
and down the floor and it could just be a

1192
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:28,800
really fun. Change of, pace you know you're not doing

1193
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,960
that as you're starting lineup, By any means but if

1194
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,800
you're going against like a bench heavy reserve unit and

1195
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,519
those guys can come in and just wreak. Havoc for

1196
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:41,320
it and you know what If if it's bona instead

1197
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,400
of emb all the better because those guys could. Fly,

1198
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,239
Even more.

1199
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:47,559
Speaker 1: Oh i'll pitot a little BIT and say i Want

1200
01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:51,880
to see Bona Watch for Paul george justin edwards and THEN.

1201
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,559
Give me Vj edge, comut.

1202
01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah just reak all sorts. Of, defensive havoc yeah.

1203
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:03,119
Speaker 1: LIKE defensive versatility i don't know what, the you Got

1204
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:05,119
Like if paul george is healthy like that someone WHO

1205
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,840
Could score vj edgecombes can do stuff for my notes

1206
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,239
anyway on, the ball apparently and forgot about when you

1207
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:12,360
sent him, AT point guard i like scoffed and then it's,

1208
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,320
my note said like him on the ball. Look Pretty

1209
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,079
good so watford do the grab. AND go stuff i

1210
01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:19,000
don't know if you trust now with all, of those

1211
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:21,639
guys who's the best one to set up bona or

1212
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:23,960
like in. That on offense so that can get. A

1213
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,159
little iffy but these are. Weird o lineups that's. WHY

1214
01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:28,239
they're there i do have a follow up question, for, You,

1215
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,599
then though okay which lineup configuration sees more? Time This

1216
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:38,400
year four Guards or? The big three and is that?

1217
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:39,519
A good question.

1218
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: One Would hope the big three man things. Went really

1219
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,400
south if it Is the four guards and More Than,

1220
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:48,280
the big three.

1221
01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: Well That's a good that means it's. A bad question then,

1222
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:53,039
if it's that if that's far a departure. From one

1223
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:53,760
another that means it's.

1224
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: A bad, question, it's NOT though because i mean we

1225
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,039
saw Last Year the big three played like one hundred

1226
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:03,719
and ninety, three minutes together so. That a lot Can We,

1227
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:04,800
ask tom tibodeau can we?

1228
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,079
Speaker 1: Call him, up he's like that's one game's WORTH it

1229
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,599
before i force you to make a. Couple of predictions

1230
01:04:12,639 --> 01:04:15,119
is there anything else anyone else? About this team we

1231
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:18,199
haven't discussed who or that you think deserves more.

1232
01:04:18,239 --> 01:04:22,119
Speaker 2: OF a conversation i would just Like To congratulate kyle

1233
01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:26,840
lowry on his. PLAYER coach role i do not expect him,

1234
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,960
to play much, if at, all this year, AND you

1235
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,679
know i know he's doing some BROADCASTING work For i believe,

1236
01:04:33,679 --> 01:04:36,679
amazon this year. WHICH is exciting i think it's. Gonna

1237
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:39,960
be Great like he's i'm excited to see the next step.

1238
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,719
OF his career i think he is a valuable mentor

1239
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:48,320
for these young guys in particular to just soak up.

1240
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,599
And BE around and i think going into the season

1241
01:04:53,639 --> 01:04:57,280
with fourteen players, on standard contracts two Of Whom are

1242
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,320
Kyle Lowry, and eric gordon worries me. A little bit

1243
01:05:01,719 --> 01:05:06,039
given the HEALTH State of mb George and, now jared

1244
01:05:06,119 --> 01:05:09,960
McCain which AMONG the reasons i expect the two way

1245
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,719
guys to play. A fair, BIT.

1246
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: But.

1247
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,719
Speaker 2: Yes i would i'm Very Happy for kyle lowry that

1248
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,360
he's gonna end his career in his, hometown and, then

1249
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,079
you know be be a good locker room presence for

1250
01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:27,559
a team that then has desperately needed one.

1251
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: FOR a While I, love KYLE lowry. SO i would

1252
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,679
i feel all that it's kind of funny that he's

1253
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:35,760
gonna like sign the deal to like has, a side

1254
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,320
hustle whereas all these a lot of, These other players okay,

1255
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,719
they have podcasts but like they're not GOING on broadcast

1256
01:05:40,719 --> 01:05:43,559
tv until their, seasons, are Over right toyl, lowry's, JUST

1257
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:44,960
like oh i might be late, To THE game like

1258
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:45,480
i got TO Do.

1259
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: THIS nbc, Sports i mean draymond is dabbled in uh,

1260
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,440
MID season, too i, think so, right all right well.

1261
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: He's not, good At it so kyle lower will probably Be.

1262
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,159
Speaker 2: Good At yeah i'm i'm, Very in general i'm. Excited

1263
01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:06,079
for this this new Broadcast game of amazon has assembled

1264
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,639
like an a TEAM of people i think are actually

1265
01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:13,360
being really good At this With blake and dirk and

1266
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,320
They do d wade's. Doing SOMETHING too if, I remember correctly, I,

1267
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,119
Believe so yeah, I'M you know i forget which, one

1268
01:06:21,159 --> 01:06:23,440
it was but one, of, them said like we want

1269
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,880
to bring positivity BEST back. TO nba broadcast, i was

1270
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:27,199
like what do?

1271
01:06:27,239 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: You?

1272
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:31,159
Speaker 2: Mean better wait when did we have this? At any

1273
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:33,960
point but if, That's the case, I'm YOU know.

1274
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,679
Speaker 1: I'M i guess i grew up, in THE nineties so

1275
01:06:37,719 --> 01:06:41,000
i don't remember what that quote unquote dish discourse was

1276
01:06:41,079 --> 01:06:44,079
like then we're studio shows just different. At that point

1277
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,960
was it more just like newsy stating box score facts

1278
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:52,159
and moving on rather than giving? Opinions, AND takes yeah i.

1279
01:06:52,239 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: GENUINELY don't, remember I MEAN. Like steven a smith has

1280
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:59,079
broken my brain to an UNPRECEDENTED degree that i don't.

1281
01:06:59,079 --> 01:07:01,239
Have memories of, BUT you know i see IT, for

1282
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,280
the NFL like how ESPN covers the nfl is so

1283
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,559
radically different than how THEY cover THE nba that i

1284
01:07:06,639 --> 01:07:10,559
have hope that other networks have taken note of this,

1285
01:07:11,199 --> 01:07:14,199
and they're like, you know what let's actually just promote

1286
01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:18,039
the game positively and focused, on you know.

1287
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:20,239
Speaker 1: Which can BE done with i understand a lot, Of

1288
01:07:20,239 --> 01:07:22,559
the tactical so why did not expect this to? Have

1289
01:07:22,679 --> 01:07:24,519
JUST that but i understand a lot of the tactical

1290
01:07:24,519 --> 01:07:28,039
stuff is TOUGHER because the nba game moves faster and there.

1291
01:07:28,039 --> 01:07:32,199
Are more, games but minimum the positivity is just that

1292
01:07:32,519 --> 01:07:34,960
he should be. Easy to implement is to just get

1293
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,159
people who appreciate and like you still see it IS that's,

1294
01:07:38,159 --> 01:07:41,480
been i Know People hate reggie miller on broad and

1295
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:44,480
test the actually still likes the, game of basketball and

1296
01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:46,280
maybe the bar has been sent. A little bit i.

1297
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,519
Actively appreciate that and SO whether it's i agree with his,

1298
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:53,320
opinions or not like just having someone who feels like

1299
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,800
they appreciate the product that they're watching and everything that gets.

1300
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,559
Put into it we just we that's the that's, the

1301
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:03,760
bare minimum and like we can't. Even meet that hopefully

1302
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,599
we have now with the way that the, new stuff

1303
01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:08,519
is the new PARTNERSHIPS or the tv deal. Is set,

1304
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:11,840
up he, says the uh someone who was contracted by

1305
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,960
the company. That, lost that.

1306
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:21,039
Speaker 2: Yeah so our shots at any former, broadcasters of course

1307
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,279
just just Talking. About krat ontz SO.

1308
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: This is i think this is the hardest team to ask.

1309
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,600
This question for but where how many games do you

1310
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,119
have them winning this year and where do you see

1311
01:08:32,119 --> 01:08:34,960
them landing in the larger Context. Of the east, you

1312
01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:38,119
factor in you have, to factor everything the, prospect, of. Trades,

1313
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:39,359
INJURIES everything.

1314
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah I mean paul george said last year, was rock

1315
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,600
bottom and it feels like he was tempting, fate With,

1316
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:50,720
that like buddy there's always lower. With this team but

1317
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,680
we'll assume last year was. Indeed rock bottom i'm CAUTIOUSLY

1318
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,720
optimistic and i think they're over under set in, The

1319
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:04,119
low forties like it wouldn't shock me if they FINISH

1320
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:06,920
over so i could easily see them winning forty, five

1321
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:11,600
to fifty making it as a top sixty in the,

1322
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,880
in THE playoffs do i think they make a? Past? Second.

1323
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,239
Round probably not that just, is you know you're at

1324
01:09:19,239 --> 01:09:22,399
that point you are you need All, Three of George

1325
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,920
embiid and maxi to be also just be weird.

1326
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,359
Speaker 1: To see the sixers in. The conference, finals you know

1327
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:29,359
let'll just be awkward for everybody and long than.

1328
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,399
Speaker 2: Just be funny if this was the, year happened Though

1329
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,520
like It that's, What i'm saying like this is this,

1330
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:34,199
is dangerous?

1331
01:09:34,199 --> 01:09:36,159
Speaker 1: Though too right would they read into it and then

1332
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:38,840
do something just so unbelievably love like we made It

1333
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,239
to the yeah we got swept four Oh by the,

1334
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:43,720
calves or somebody but. We made it so now we're.

1335
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:44,720
Gonna triple down.

1336
01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:48,399
Speaker 2: Now here's the blank, Check, you wanted quentin. We were

1337
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:50,760
wrong here's twenty five. Million a year they're OUT.

1338
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:55,199
Speaker 1: There trained Vj Edgecombe, for kawhi Leonard.

1339
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: That is kawhi leonard. On men deal, by that point

1340
01:09:58,680 --> 01:09:59,880
as this, CONTRACT avoided you.

1341
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,319
Speaker 1: I don't again you could argue that that Would do

1342
01:10:03,319 --> 01:10:05,439
the clippers a favor unless still count against their.

1343
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: Their, cab feet yeah.

1344
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: So are, there any teams like good teams who are

1345
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,439
supposed to be good Teams in the east that You

1346
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,399
think the sixers actually match up? Particularly well Against.

1347
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: Are the bucks supposed? To be good, johannest plus dudes.

1348
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,279
Speaker 1: Assuming like he will NO longer have covid and can

1349
01:10:24,319 --> 01:10:27,720
remember his conversations with the coaching staff about. The, game

1350
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,479
plan yeah it's went, pretty.

1351
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: Good historically and be It His own miles turner and

1352
01:10:34,079 --> 01:10:36,680
Any Team With kevin porter junior as it's starting Point

1353
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,840
Guard and kyle guzma as a starting player in its

1354
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,039
rotation potentially.

1355
01:10:43,079 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: Their second option and if, it's Not Him It's. Kevin

1356
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:46,600
PORTER junior.

1357
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: So i eagerly, anticipate that MATCHUP especially, BECAUSE i mean

1358
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:58,840
i don't know if there's a ton of hard FEELINGS from,

1359
01:10:58,199 --> 01:11:01,039
what i mean most of the guys who or on

1360
01:11:01,079 --> 01:11:03,800
The team when dot was here gone at. This point anyway,

1361
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,159
but you know it wouldn't Shock me if maxie still

1362
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:09,920
harbors a little bit of resentment for that that brief

1363
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,920
stint on the bench that he supposedly came up with.

1364
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,520
The IDEA for so i could see him wanting to

1365
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:20,079
have a few extra special revenge Games. Against THE bucks

1366
01:11:20,359 --> 01:11:23,279
and i mean we'll See like, The cavs again like

1367
01:11:23,399 --> 01:11:27,039
they are relatively, small as well so this is at least,

1368
01:11:27,039 --> 01:11:33,239
in the backcourt so, that's, where this yeah three or

1369
01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:36,359
four card lineup. HAS a chance i think it would

1370
01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:38,840
be a tough matchup in the front court with you

1371
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:44,039
KNOW who's Guarding mobilei like embiid Presumably, drops a drummond

1372
01:11:44,079 --> 01:11:46,800
but they. Don't have anyone like do You See some

1373
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,800
bona embiid Lineups. TO counter mobile i think that. Would Be, fun,

1374
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:57,039
the knicks no just, keep me away keep me that

1375
01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:01,039
series was just too. PHYSICAL years ago i want no.

1376
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:04,920
PART of It I know ted, tims isn't there but

1377
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,199
stay away soil.

1378
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: The. CONFERENCE finals please i want to see regular SEASON

1379
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,680
contact obviousely i want to see Them, play the rockets

1380
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,279
but they don't adjust their rotation at all because they'll

1381
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:17,279
be so tiny in Comparison to the rockets when they're

1382
01:12:17,279 --> 01:12:19,560
one of The Lineup where abence oms is just. The

1383
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,520
SMALLEST player but i think it Would, Be, his, Derek

1384
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:28,680
yeah yeah i'm. Here, For, It YEAH ryandporak can i

1385
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,000
Get one additional sixers prediction from you for? This coming

1386
01:12:32,039 --> 01:12:34,840
season it could be whatever. You, Would like.

1387
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: Yes my prediction is that they flirt with trading the

1388
01:12:44,119 --> 01:12:50,960
Twenty twenty eight flippers pick absolutely. Up the wall if

1389
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,000
there is no way you could pry that pick from

1390
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,680
my cold dead HANDS until the nba has ruled on

1391
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,000
aspiration one way. Or the other what would?

1392
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:04,159
Speaker 1: There's no like what would be? A real like what

1393
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:08,119
is the bar for returning asset or player that would

1394
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:10,760
make you think about doing? It right, now let's say

1395
01:13:11,079 --> 01:13:13,439
but we're before, you could say we know the investigation

1396
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:14,920
is going to Last Through the, all star bricks so

1397
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,920
past the. Trained deb on so what is the Type

1398
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,840
of plane you're not trading it For.

1399
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: Like, a tarsan, No, NO way Okay, i love tari don't.

1400
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,760
GET me wrong i would love Him, on the sixers

1401
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,279
but especially now that he's set to get. PAID next

1402
01:13:28,279 --> 01:13:33,640
summer i, mean they're Like that's the clippers have a

1403
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,119
completely blank slate in twenty twenty seven as of Now

1404
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,520
other than dumatch and a couple guys on their, rookie

1405
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,840
scale deals and that pick is in, Twenty twenty, EIGHT

1406
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,439
and YEAH i mean I would just i would have,

1407
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,560
to see, it you know if They like put kawhi's

1408
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,560
kapit on the books through twenty twenty seven and they

1409
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,720
could like recoup some of the money that He, Got,

1410
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,680
from aspiration like there's. JUST no way i think that

1411
01:13:59,399 --> 01:14:02,000
the disaster her Potential for the clippers is so high

1412
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,920
that it would have to, be a true a, True

1413
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:11,039
difference maker like If It was paul george and the

1414
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:17,439
twenty twenty eight pick for a younger star who's on, a, cheaper,

1415
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:21,000
contract MAYBE like but.

1416
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,399
Speaker 1: I own the lowry MARKET and yeah, i werean younger

1417
01:14:23,399 --> 01:14:25,399
that was the name that thank you ALL knowing that.

1418
01:14:25,399 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 2: I would do i Don't think that LOWRY'S the bar

1419
01:14:29,279 --> 01:14:30,640
i think it would have to be, Higher Than that

1420
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,920
like i'd rather Just eat, the george contract and. HE is, that,

1421
01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:37,800
i mean look it might, not work, out you know

1422
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,680
it might end up being a mid to late, first

1423
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,760
round pick but, it's fully unprotected like it has, Some

1424
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,359
jackpot upside.

1425
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,520
Speaker 1: So that's not I'm, TRYING to yeah i don't even

1426
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,039
see like a good beam that, would be uh a

1427
01:14:52,119 --> 01:14:55,800
metal ball doesn't make any? Sense, For, YOU there yeah

1428
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,159
i got it is. A crown jewel i'm just trying

1429
01:14:58,159 --> 01:15:00,239
to take a good player, that, would try like could

1430
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:02,279
it make you think about moving? It right now that's

1431
01:15:02,319 --> 01:15:05,000
not too outside. Their own possibility and then also a

1432
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:06,439
lot of the ones that are springing to mind for

1433
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,880
me are, just big men and that's not what you're gonna. Be,

1434
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,359
looking For Yeah, Here.

1435
01:15:11,119 --> 01:15:14,079
Speaker 2: Jimmy butler paul george and The Pick For. Jimmy butler

1436
01:15:15,079 --> 01:15:17,760
pete really, IT'S mate said i, wouldn't, Do it like

1437
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,600
i'd rather again just eat eat. The, EXTRA year no

1438
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,680
i think for an aging star that. MAKES total sense i.

1439
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,039
WOULDN'T do that i wouldn't.

1440
01:15:24,079 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: Do that either what About Still big Anthony Davis par

1441
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:28,560
Anthony davis.

1442
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: With joel, embiid oh yeah just what they need another Injury.

1443
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:36,279
Pro big man. That sounds GREAT what about i don't

1444
01:15:36,319 --> 01:15:36,520
know why?

1445
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,359
Speaker 1: They were tripped memphis Tears It, DOWN Jared jackson junr

1446
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:39,560
is that?

1447
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,119
Speaker 2: Are? YOU thinking no i mean you want another? Wing

1448
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,840
if anything AND that Like I just Tray Murphy. In,

1449
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,760
new orleans okay. Now, We're, TALKING okay now i don't

1450
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:51,079
think they're.

1451
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: GONNA trade him i think he's might like the single

1452
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,279
most important player in the building.

1453
01:15:54,039 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 2: Where one would, hope, but, yeah yeah.

1454
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,119
Speaker 1: Okay what What if the knicks DECIDE TO. Posit O

1455
01:16:00,239 --> 01:16:04,199
g does og still do? It for you Or You want?

1456
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:06,319
Michel bridges back you guys can kind OF complete. The,

1457
01:16:06,359 --> 01:16:07,800
fi fold mike you'll finally.

1458
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 2: Suit up the return The Return. OF micheale, bridges, I

1459
01:16:11,039 --> 01:16:14,600
honestly well I Would love, mcal bridges, BACK but no

1460
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,760
i would not not until. We add clarity once, we

1461
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,800
have clarity that pick might be, up for grabs but

1462
01:16:22,319 --> 01:16:25,560
not until we know this Scope Of what adam silver

1463
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:26,119
is about to do.

1464
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:31,119
Speaker 1: To That, team mister taporak this was, Fantastic as always

1465
01:16:31,159 --> 01:16:33,319
welcome back To the. LOOK ahead series i love talking

1466
01:16:33,319 --> 01:16:35,239
hoops with you and talking to. You in general can

1467
01:16:35,279 --> 01:16:37,359
you just tell our audience where they can find you

1468
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,399
in all the great work, that you do.

1469
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 2: For sure for Sixer Stuff on LIBERTY Dollars. At eSPI

1470
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:49,479
nation i'm also doing some, stuff for sports mostly, salary

1471
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,319
cap stuff some sixer stuff, there as well and then fan,

1472
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:57,600
sided as well doing ALL sorts. Of nba coverage they're

1473
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,720
gonna after we get off here to be Righting About

1474
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,920
some quentin grimes and Then Questioning why bradley beal is

1475
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,920
Locked into the clippers, Starting lineup already so that's that.

1476
01:17:09,079 --> 01:17:11,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna be he's gonna be an, elite defender again

1477
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,199
does emphasis? On again.

1478
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 2: Right all of those times he, WAS before that i

1479
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,199
definitely remember very clearly. In, my, head Yes, yes so

1480
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,000
dan thank you as always. For having me it's always

1481
01:17:25,039 --> 01:17:27,560
a good to catch, up with. You my friend keep up.

1482
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:31,359
The great work you're still a sickoh for doing every single,

1483
01:17:31,359 --> 01:17:34,319
Team like this but one day you will see the

1484
01:17:34,399 --> 01:17:37,520
light and realize sweet not the way to get ahead.

1485
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,359
Speaker 1: In, This industry, NO i'm, gonna, I think honestly i'm

1486
01:17:40,359 --> 01:17:42,399
gonna stop watching, games this year for though PEOPLE don't

1487
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:44,039
think i, Watched Them anyway and i'm just gonna see

1488
01:17:44,039 --> 01:17:46,359
where that maybe this is THE year that i end up,

1489
01:17:46,359 --> 01:17:48,560
on you know broadcast television or something.

1490
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,079
Speaker 2: At that point so is there not some that can

1491
01:17:51,119 --> 01:17:53,239
just summarize? Games for us how what are? We doing

1492
01:17:53,279 --> 01:17:54,119
here You know what i'm?

1493
01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:56,039
Speaker 1: Really UPSET about and i. MADE a note i was

1494
01:17:56,079 --> 01:17:59,159
supposed to introduce this As the, thunder buddies podcast BECAUSE

1495
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:00,880
you and i both like that we were Gonna start.

1496
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,359
A thunder podcast this was gonna stick. Of their rebuild

1497
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,159
yes that everyone was. Gonna last forever and so now

1498
01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:08,680
we have this running joke that we're Just. Gonna do

1499
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,720
thunder we're gonna pivot all The way. To thunder counting

1500
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,359
we didn't make that joke once until almost the hours.

1501
01:18:13,359 --> 01:18:16,520
Twenty Minute mark so i'm doing, dozens of. PEOPLE maybe

1502
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,520
hundreds i think we've kept hundreds, through the end but that.

1503
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 2: Might be it i'm just happy. We were vindicated, but

1504
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,680
You know the eagles won a. Championship this Year my

1505
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,039
beloved thunder won a. Championship This year the sixers can't.

1506
01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:30,880
Hurt Me anymore the thunder gain.

1507
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: Me some teflon i'm gonnaculated against, a little Bit But

1508
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,199
seeing saquon barkley as A this Is i'm. A Giants

1509
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:38,479
Fan see saquon FLEET ranked by nfl dot. Com or

1510
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,479
whatever it was the best PLAYER in the nfl was

1511
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,640
just He Won the, super bowl too And it's. Freaking

1512
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,359
giants man he used to be. A proper organization i don't.

1513
01:18:47,399 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: Know what end but on, the bright side he's uh

1514
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,720
after his eventful offseason has not been nearly as, good

1515
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:58,479
this Year So the super bowl. Kurs lives on I'll.

1516
01:18:58,279 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 1: Pretend to I'LL pretend like i, knew that ALRIGHT as

1517
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,760
if I followed the. Nfl, REALLY instantly yeah i knew

1518
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,079
that some feeling pretty. Good about it but, thank you

1519
01:19:05,159 --> 01:19:07,079
again right as you, Know by now i'll be testing

1520
01:19:07,119 --> 01:19:08,199
you again. Down the line i'll talk.

1521
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 2: To you soon

1522
01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:10,359
Speaker 1: M