Speaker 1: By BO five. I think if I have k r
Speaker 1: C the talk stations something a vacation snow, I gotta
Speaker 1: get the runout.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 1: And if I gave a moment of thought to whatever
Speaker 1: sound by Joe's going to play this morning, that would
Speaker 1: be the first one to come to mind. So wonderful
Speaker 1: start of the morning, Joe Strecker. It's cold out there,
Speaker 1: and you, I guess we've got some inclement weather coming
Speaker 1: our way. It's a really windy out. My car is
Speaker 1: getting blown all over the road coming down the expressway
Speaker 1: this morning, which was kind of strange, but so I
Speaker 1: guess ultimately, be careful and don't bother going to school
Speaker 1: today since they public schools closed due to the cold weather.
Speaker 1: We find that like are we whimps now? I mean,
Speaker 1: it just merely cold weather now, and it results in
Speaker 1: the schools being shot down. Imagine our world when we
Speaker 1: have to rely on solar power and wind, although I
Speaker 1: guess the windmills would work really well this morning. We
Speaker 1: have climate change. Climate change is going on right now.
Speaker 1: You have nothing to do with it. Winter showed up
Speaker 1: and it got really cold out and didn't we anticipate
Speaker 1: that happening? But are are the kids just going to
Speaker 1: stay at home for the entire winter? Now, I don't
Speaker 1: get it, really don't get it was such a rare occasion.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just waxing poetic about my childhood. We'd all
Speaker 1: look really forward to the day when they would shut
Speaker 1: down to the school because you know, there was like
Speaker 1: eight inches of snow out there innow applause couldn't deal
Speaker 1: with it. And don't ever recall the schools being shut
Speaker 1: down because of cold. And I lived through the seventies
Speaker 1: in the oil embargo when everything was really expensive, and
Speaker 1: a really good friend of mine went over his house
Speaker 1: and his family was on a budget. You know, I
Speaker 1: understand that you could see your breath inside his house,
Speaker 1: and that's because they kept the thermostat down really really low,
Speaker 1: because well, the price of energy had gone through the roof.
Speaker 1: Welcome to your future, brought to you not by the
Speaker 1: laws of supply and demand, but by the laws of
Speaker 1: well climate change, which are literally dominating every aspect of
Speaker 1: our lives these days. Don't allow that to happen. Reject
Speaker 1: the religion. Be like me anyway. Brian Thomas, right here,
Speaker 1: glad to be right here, had a wonderful time yesterday
Speaker 1: a listener lunch. What a great listener lunch. Not that
Speaker 1: they're all not great, I love every one of them,
Speaker 1: but everyone was interfestive in celebratory mood yesterday, which is
Speaker 1: all I was looking for. And then that parlayed over
Speaker 1: of segued over into the iHeartMedia Christmas Party. We had
Speaker 1: a really wonderful time yere celebrating while the holidays generally speaking,
Speaker 1: so I can say that I had a really nice
Speaker 1: day yesterday. Anyhow, God bless the folks of Price Heal Chili.
Speaker 1: The service, the food was great, and of course the fellowship.
Speaker 1: Just a wonderful, wonderful day. Photographs, Thank you, Rebecca PROMGRAPPI
Speaker 1: Rebecca used to take photographs at every listener to lunch,
Speaker 1: and then her life sort of changed, went to a
Speaker 1: different direction. She wasn't able to make it anymore. So
Speaker 1: we haven't had really good photographs from a listener to lunch.
Speaker 1: No offense west side, Jim Keefer, You've done a wonderful
Speaker 1: job filling in the blanks over the years, but let's
Speaker 1: face it, your cell phone has no substitute for Rebecca's
Speaker 1: keen eye and wonderful camera that she's got. So if
Speaker 1: you are friends with me on Facebook, or friends with
Speaker 1: Rebecca Grappy on Facebook, or friends with west Side Jim
Speaker 1: Kiefer on Facebook. Lots of folks have you know, reposted
Speaker 1: the photographs and you can get a real big eye
Speaker 1: full of all the different food that people late over there.
Speaker 1: She loves taking pictures the plates of food before people
Speaker 1: dive into him. So God bless you, Rebecca. You know
Speaker 1: I love you to death. Coming up in the fifty
Speaker 1: five Jarsey Morning Show, I love Joe Strecker in you know,
Speaker 1: a non gay way. Joe, love you man, You're my brother,
Speaker 1: and thank you for winding up Lieutenant Governor John Houston.
Speaker 1: He'll be on the program coming up at seven o
Speaker 1: five talking about the Ohio bathroom bill, somewhat controversial, at
Speaker 1: least among some circles. Listen, I'm a firm believer that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a guy, you should well be
Speaker 1: using the men's bathroom. If you're a woman, you should
Speaker 1: be using the women's bathroom. I have a daughter, and
Speaker 1: I don't worry so much about my son. If my
Speaker 1: son's in in the men's bathroom and a woman comes
Speaker 1: in and goes, that's for whatever reason that doesn't strike
Speaker 1: me as scary in the same way that a young
Speaker 1: girl in a girl's bathroom having some forty five year
Speaker 1: old man who claims he's a girl walk in there.
Speaker 1: That really is creepy on a whole next level, and
Speaker 1: you can feel differently about that. That's what opinions are
Speaker 1: all like, like sphincters, we've all got one, but that's
Speaker 1: you know that it's it could be very dangerous. I
Speaker 1: suppose it could be dangerous. I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: always project. I suppose there our instances with women could
Speaker 1: take sexual advantage of men. It typically happens these days
Speaker 1: with school teachers who think it's appropriate on some level
Speaker 1: to have sex with I don't know, young boys. I
Speaker 1: think it's a much rarer occasion. The whole concept of
Speaker 1: you know, violence, rate that kind of thing. It usually,
Speaker 1: in my mind, it's a guy attacking a woman, and
Speaker 1: I think that's what is behind all of these bathroom bills.
Speaker 1: It's like, don't create a situation where an eight year
Speaker 1: old girl can get molested by somebody merely because that
Speaker 1: guy claims to be a woman. I think it represents
Speaker 1: a much higher level of concern than again, the controverse
Speaker 1: or the flip side of it, but regardless, Lieutenant Governor
Speaker 1: John Houston is going to join the program talk about
Speaker 1: the bathroom bill, also ohioa dip and pregnancy programs two
Speaker 1: topics with the Lieutenant Governor at seven o five, follow
Speaker 1: by Donovan and Neil. Americans for Prosperity on school choice
Speaker 1: expansion Yay for school Choice at eight o five. Big
Speaker 1: show lined up today William hazel Grove with the book
Speaker 1: Dead Air The Night orson wells Terrified America. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to that, moving away from politics and talking about
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting media phenomena to ever happen,
Speaker 1: when people actually thought that we were being invaded by
Speaker 1: Martian aliens. So a good show. Fifty five Casey dot
Speaker 1: com for the podcast when you can't listen to live
Speaker 1: Judgement of Polatana. We went to law school yesterday. That
Speaker 1: was funking. Looking at the Hunter Biden pardon from a
Speaker 1: core constitutional perspective, stepping away from how he was treated differently,
Speaker 1: how the slow walk the investigation to more fundamental constitutional
Speaker 1: based discussion. For example, why do you have to fill
Speaker 1: out an FFL form when you buy a firearm? Is
Speaker 1: there is that constitutional even in itself when we've got,
Speaker 1: of of course, the more modern Supreme Court decisions like
Speaker 1: the Bruin. You know, if that if the if the
Speaker 1: prohibition didn't exist at the time the Second Amendment was ratified.
Speaker 1: In other words, what was the perspective of the Founding
Speaker 1: father's relative of firearms? You know, what could you have,
Speaker 1: what could you use? And what I mean he pointed
Speaker 1: to He loved that. He pointed out that Thomas Jefferson
Speaker 1: and George Washington both grew weed on their farms and
Speaker 1: also were firearms unders So it kind of suggested that
Speaker 1: maybe those guys were walking around Stone that was okay
Speaker 1: back then. You didn't have to fill out a federal
Speaker 1: firearms for him back then. So you can forgive Hunter
Speaker 1: Biden on some level for lying only because the predicate
Speaker 1: the FFL form itself under Judge and Palalaton's argument, and
Speaker 1: I would say, I share it is unconstitutional because that
Speaker 1: kind of prohibition, that limitation that you can't buy something
Speaker 1: until you fill out a federal form was not in
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form in existence at the time.
Speaker 1: The Founding Fathers told you that you absolutely have a
Speaker 1: god given right to protect yourself defend yourself. The Second
Speaker 1: Amendment right to keep in bare arms shall not be
Speaker 1: in fringe, and that's an infringement. So I thought, why not,
Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't that be a welcome opportunity since unter
Speaker 1: Biden was facing those charges. It was so I'm guilty
Speaker 1: to defend yourself based on the Brewing decision. And maybe
Speaker 1: they raised that argument at court. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: you know, you can appeal a conviction and go up
Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court. Maybe the Supreme Court that in
Speaker 1: front of them, they might have declared, no, you know what,
Speaker 1: He's right, you don't need to fill out one of
Speaker 1: these forms in order to purchase a firearm. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we talked about that, and I thought it was a
Speaker 1: rather interesting legal discussion because, you know, at the outset,
Speaker 1: I was a little concerned, if you like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: you know, Neapolitana thinks it's okay that Hunter Biden got
Speaker 1: pardoned by his old man. Well, on a constitutional level,
Speaker 1: the answer yes, but you can't look at it from
Speaker 1: the base of the facts on Hunter Biden specifically, you
Speaker 1: have to back up and look at the core fundamental
Speaker 1: limitation document that is the Constitution. There are specific limitations
Speaker 1: of the federal government. They only have the right under
Speaker 1: the Constitution to involve themselves in very specific matters too specifically,
Speaker 1: and there are five thousand, almost five two hundred now
Speaker 1: federal laws on the books criminal that exceed the scope
Speaker 1: of the authority the federal government has under the Constitution.
Speaker 1: So I loved that whole. Like I said, we all
Speaker 1: went to law school yesterday. So if you get a
Speaker 1: chance to listen to the judge, check that one out.
Speaker 1: I think it's well worth it. Alex Chrantefiela was on
Speaker 1: the program yesterday the podcast at five Caressey dot Com.
Speaker 1: Talked of the state of politics here and also always
Speaker 1: wonderful commentary by Jack add and tying in biblical concepts
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump's cabinet. I didn't know how that was
Speaker 1: going to go direction wise, and it was. It was
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I suppose everybody knows at this point about
Speaker 1: that shooting in New York yesterday. Briefly, the CEO United
Speaker 1: Health fatally shot. It was a it was a targeted attack.
Speaker 1: It seems premeditated. No one seems to be making any
Speaker 1: argument to the contrary. Someone mentioned this when I walked
Speaker 1: into the Christmas party. Yesterday. I read the news and
Speaker 1: it said Brian Thoms. Someone is like Brian Thomas. I
Speaker 1: thought was Brian Thomas god shot? No, Brian Thompson getting
Speaker 1: ready to speak of the United Health Group investor conference.
Speaker 1: He was the CEO now deceased. So no, it wasn't
Speaker 1: me Thomas. My name Thompson his name. He was only
Speaker 1: fifty years old. Weird set of circumstances. The guy and
Speaker 1: we were talking yesterday and joking around about the red
Speaker 1: Bikes program in Cincinnati, kind of on a thin ice
Speaker 1: because it doesn't have the money to operate. This guy
Speaker 1: escaped on one of those type of bikes and he
Speaker 1: is at large still. They said he appeared to be
Speaker 1: an experienced firearm user using a firearm equipped with a suppressor.
Speaker 1: It's a suppressor, not a silencer. Okay, it's like it's
Speaker 1: a magazine, not a club. Anyway, nine millimeter handgun with
Speaker 1: a suppressor. Calmly Cooley shot the guy in the back.
Speaker 1: The gun jam. He was able to get the jam fixed,
Speaker 1: which is one of the things they say points that
Speaker 1: he was an experienced shooter. I'll let you draw your
Speaker 1: own conclusions on that. My fellow firearms owners hey, walk
Speaker 1: down the Queen Rose Street quietly escape down an alleyway
Speaker 1: on one of those rented bikes. I thought the weird
Speaker 1: thing beyond the person who thought for a moment that
Speaker 1: it was me Brian Thomas as opposed to Brian Thompson.
Speaker 1: The guy is married to a woman named Paulette. Brian
Speaker 1: Thompson and Paulette Thompson. So creepy, creepy thing there, since,
Speaker 1: of course, my wife's name is Paullette, not exactly a
Speaker 1: common name. Anyhow, you got a comment, love to hear
Speaker 1: from you, Steve. I see her on the phone. I'll
Speaker 1: be happy to talk to you. It's already five seventeen, though,
Speaker 1: I gotta take a quick break. I'll be right back
Speaker 1: after these brief words.
Speaker 3: They don't just want to control our healthcare live dot,
Speaker 3: control our children's minds.
Speaker 2: Through their education loud.
Speaker 3: We have to fight to take America back and logo.
Speaker 4: You have the luxury of giving your opinion.
Speaker 1: It's just neighbors being neighbor lads.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll agree with the whole heart late, of course,
Speaker 5: most of the time.
Speaker 3: Bring it back to what the founding of fault is
Speaker 3: believed in that individual would be and the individual responsibility
Speaker 3: to goes.
Speaker 6: With US fifty five PRC, the talk stations, why Pea
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Speaker 1: Five twenty one and a Happy Friday, E too you
Speaker 1: looking forward to iHeart Me The aviation expert Jay Ratt
Speaker 1: Love Love talking to Jay on a Thursday eight thirty
Speaker 1: close the show out. We got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: topics with him. I mentioned William hazel grow is going
Speaker 1: to be on with his book Dad, Air of the Night,
Speaker 1: orson Wells, Terrified America, Donovan and Neil plus Lieutenant Comnor
Speaker 1: John Hough said on a whole variety of topics. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the phone, Steve, thanks for holding over the brake,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2: Good morning, How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing to here?
Speaker 2: You got to hear you worn't involved in that.
Speaker 7: My question is, is I just there's a younger guy
Speaker 7: at work and just time out.
Speaker 2: He's been there two years.
Speaker 7: And he's not eligible for a four to one K
Speaker 7: and the money that is put in by the company
Speaker 7: because I until he turns twenty one.
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem seems like some kind of a age
Speaker 2: discrimination thing.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that rule. Is that you caught me
Speaker 1: off guard on that one. I know there are weird
Speaker 1: rules about four to one k's. I know, I had
Speaker 1: to be employed when I first started my four to
Speaker 1: one K at my first you know, full time real job,
Speaker 1: and I was practice of laun Chicago. I had to
Speaker 1: wait a full year before I became eligible to contribute
Speaker 1: to it and to get the match. But I've never
Speaker 1: heard of an age restriction on it. So that's that's
Speaker 1: new on me. I have, Steve, honestly don't have any
Speaker 1: idea why that would apply, especially with more and more
Speaker 1: young people foregoing the stupidity of a four year college degree,
Speaker 1: which is going to give them literally nothing for a
Speaker 1: variety of topics. Why wouldn't you be able to start,
Speaker 1: you know, ful fill the minimum requirement of time spent
Speaker 1: at work one year, whatever it happens to be in
Speaker 1: our company policy, and start participating plan ahead for your future.
Speaker 1: So all right, I.
Speaker 7: Just just it didn't seem the corporate I mean, it
Speaker 7: kind of seems like a loophole.
Speaker 2: For the corporations. Yeah, but it's I.
Speaker 7: Mean, they're basically being told. I mean I was told
Speaker 7: when I was younger, I wasn't allowed to get a
Speaker 7: raise that I deserved because I was unmarried and young.
Speaker 1: What and yeah, well maybe the laws changed a little bit.
Speaker 1: S If I was an employer, I wouldn't say something
Speaker 1: like that out loud.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, honey, it worked out for me. Good,
Speaker 1: oh god, I'm over the long haul. Goods do you?
Speaker 1: You didn't land it a bad spot. But that's like
Speaker 1: to me, that's like saying, honey, we would love to
Speaker 1: promote you to the vice presidents, but we're worried you
Speaker 1: might get pregnant or something. You know, I mean, just
Speaker 1: that stuff is not right. It's I mean, unethicable, immoral
Speaker 1: and also perhaps illegal. But in as far as the
Speaker 1: contribution thing, if there's a listener out there that knows
Speaker 1: four one K law and knows that that there's a
Speaker 1: limitation on when you can start, I listen fifty nine
Speaker 1: years old, and I have never heard that before. Brother,
Speaker 1: So that's that's strange. And you know what, you know,
Speaker 1: what's really cool about that, though, aside from the fact
Speaker 1: that that the eighteen year was deprived of the opportunity
Speaker 1: to prepare for his or her future, that there was
Speaker 1: someone out there at the age of eighteen who wanted
Speaker 1: to put away something for their future. That person, whoever
Speaker 1: that person is, Steve, if it was you, You're you're
Speaker 1: setting yourself up for a lifetime of success. You're thinking forward.
Speaker 1: You are putting money in something that is going to
Speaker 1: earn money. You know, it always earns money over time
Speaker 1: because you get the benefit of that compounding interest in
Speaker 1: markets that you know, over history have proven themselves to
Speaker 1: always go up inspite of some setbacks. But whoever raised
Speaker 1: that eighteen year old, he did a good job. And
Speaker 1: whoever that person is wonderful. Give You're gonna do well
Speaker 1: in life, at least from my from my conservative West
Speaker 1: Side perspective, at least conservative from a financial perspective. Anyway,
Speaker 1: stick around. Got more callers coming in Eric's online calling
Speaker 1: in right now. We'll take that call. Your calls are
Speaker 1: welcome five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred,
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eight two three talk pound five fifty
Speaker 1: on AT and T phones. I also have local stories
Speaker 1: to talk about. And we can still make fun of
Speaker 1: this insay public schools for closing, because gee, it's twenty
Speaker 1: four degrees out today, five twenty five right now, hang on,
Speaker 1: I'll be right back. Fifty five KRC fIF KRCD talk
Speaker 1: station any very happy Friday Eve to you. He's having
Speaker 1: an interesting work related conversation with executive producers Joe Strecker,
Speaker 1: which makes me want to thank him even more for
Speaker 1: the wonderful work that he does to make this morning
Speaker 1: show come off usually without a hitch. If there's hitches,
Speaker 1: it's mostly meat, but a valuable employee. Joe Strecker is
Speaker 1: and man with the most experienced in the entire building
Speaker 1: at what he does. Without Joe, the show don't go. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want to thank Joe Strecker from
Speaker 1: the bottom of my heart for the hard work that
Speaker 1: he puts in and tireless efforts behind the scenes. Man
Speaker 1: has crazy, strange hours and I know it's impacted his life,
Speaker 1: but he's got a wonderful career here and he is
Speaker 1: truly appreciated. And I will put a free plug in
Speaker 1: for him, not against FCC rules, to remind the world
Speaker 1: that Joe Strecker earns a little additional income on the
Speaker 1: side by producing podcasts. So if you're inclined, you think
Speaker 1: you want to do a podcast and you need someone
Speaker 1: to do the editing and recording and all that, get
Speaker 1: in touch with Joe Strecker. He is the man in
Speaker 1: the podcast business to help you out. He's got a
Speaker 1: whole lot of podcasts he's producing, does a wonderful job,
Speaker 1: so consistent work for you. Independent of his consistently excellent
Speaker 1: work here on the fifty five care Scene Morning show.
Speaker 1: I love you Joe Streckeran, and thank you very much
Speaker 1: for being here every morning. Eric, Thank you for indulging
Speaker 1: me while I gave praise to Joe Streckeran for calling
Speaker 1: in this morning. Happy Friday Eve.
Speaker 8: To you, Happy Friday Eve, Brian.
Speaker 1: Joe has well worked. Any praise everyone gives him.
Speaker 8: He is an exceptional man.
Speaker 1: Yes he is.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 9: Also, he keeps my favorite morning show on Man's appreciate that.
Speaker 8: I gotta tell you.
Speaker 9: You talk about four one k's and retirement plans. We
Speaker 9: recently went through this. The company I worked for was
Speaker 9: bought out back in March, and we had a four
Speaker 9: one plan K and you know, we had a four
Speaker 9: one k planet in place. And what they did was
Speaker 9: they had a big meeting with us and explained to
Speaker 9: us that four.
Speaker 1: One k's IRA's are all offered from.
Speaker 3: The corporation or company.
Speaker 9: The only thing that the companies required to do is
Speaker 9: have a have as system to pay into such security
Speaker 9: has been the accepted system.
Speaker 10: What they've done in our company now is say minimum
Speaker 10: it's a minimum of twenty four months and then the
Speaker 10: age of twenty one to contribute to a four to
Speaker 10: one K. Otherwise you can contribute to social security. Okay,
Speaker 10: if a lot of people.
Speaker 9: Got upset and the contact the high Labor Cabinet and
Speaker 9: like Labor cabin said, it's perfectly legal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and on the break. And I always
Speaker 1: give Joe for being, you know, internet research guru because
Speaker 1: he'll look up stuff on the fly because I can't
Speaker 1: do multitask that much. So he looked it up and
Speaker 1: that's exactly what he found. It depends on the employer plan.
Speaker 1: You can offer an eighteen year old a opportunity to
Speaker 1: participate in four to one K. You also can require
Speaker 1: that being minimum of twenty one years old. It just
Speaker 1: depends on what the employer chooses to select. I guess
Speaker 1: it's like some employers author wraw for a one K,
Speaker 1: some offer just plain old four to one case. So
Speaker 1: the options are out there, and I'm happy that employers
Speaker 1: have the flexibility. This is one of the ways they
Speaker 1: compete in the marketplace for valuable talent. So the better
Speaker 1: your your retirement plan options probably the more likely it
Speaker 1: is you're going to get a good, good talent. It's
Speaker 1: like having great medical insurance. So yeah, Eric, thank you
Speaker 1: very much, not for the kind words about the show,
Speaker 1: but also supporting my support for Joe Streckers. So consistent
Speaker 1: information not just from Eric's real world experience, but from
Speaker 1: Joe Streckers on the fly internet research two to three talk
Speaker 1: interesting headline how did two Ohio at jail inmates die
Speaker 1: in a week? Camera Knight, since I inquire, thank you
Speaker 1: for the reporting. Camera and two inmates have died in
Speaker 1: custody at the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office in the past week.
Speaker 1: Matthew Dennier, fifty four, died and the Justice Center new Thursday,
Speaker 1: November twenty eighth, According to the department spokesperson Kyla Woods
Speaker 1: will be the Emont County Sheriff's Department. Denler admitted to
Speaker 1: the jail Tuesday, November twenty six would Say having been
Speaker 1: arrested on open warrants. Court documents related to the specific
Speaker 1: charges not immediately available. Woulds said he was found unresponsive
Speaker 1: in his cell Thursday officers of medical staff attempted life
Speaker 1: saving measures, obviously unsuccessful given the headline. Jacob Grayson, twenty five,
Speaker 1: collapsed Wednesday, November twenty seventh in the common area of
Speaker 1: a pod. According to Woods, officers and medical staff responded
Speaker 1: and he was taken to UC Medical Center, where he
Speaker 1: later died. He Corner's office at least not reported the
Speaker 1: date of his death as the time of the reporting,
Speaker 1: but court documents state Grayson was arrested on November twenty
Speaker 1: fifth on a probation violation. Pleaded no contest to possessing
Speaker 1: a fentanyl related compound back in February. Documents related to
Speaker 1: the prole violations said Grayson had a positive drug test
Speaker 1: for fentanyl and failed to report to the probation department.
Speaker 1: According to Enquire's research, fourteen people died at the Hamilt
Speaker 1: County Justice Center between August twenty twenty and September twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. Coroner's office working to determine the cause of
Speaker 1: death for both in main Sheriff's office also investigating both as.
Speaker 1: Wood said no foul play is suspected in either case,
Speaker 1: and she also confirmed that no force was used against
Speaker 1: either inmate, probably because there's not sufficient sheriff's deputies in
Speaker 1: the jail to even be around the use force. Allow
Speaker 1: me the occasional political barb couple the five thirty five
Speaker 1: efty five kars to detalk station. Feel free to call,
Speaker 1: got some time, but going to dive into the stack
Speaker 1: is stupid as well. Prefer talking to you though. If
Speaker 1: you got a topic you want to talk about, feel
Speaker 1: free five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five, eight
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two to three talk be right back. After
Speaker 1: these brief words, the talkings were hung by the chimney with.
Speaker 3: Care thanks for taking my college, taking my call.
Speaker 1: And hopes they'd soon hear you're on the air.
Speaker 11: Happy holidays, Merry Christmas you and your family.
Speaker 1: Fifty five KRC the talk station. What's up, y'all? Just
Speaker 1: to clarify, since Heather eight from around here, much like
Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram, who is off today, he sits in one
Speaker 1: of the studios here at the iHeartMedia cluster. He is
Speaker 1: at least familiar with local roads and traffic, and he
Speaker 1: does know that not all public schools are closed today.
Speaker 1: That will be the Cincinnati public schools closed today. Okay,
Speaker 1: just make sure that you know that I'm sure you
Speaker 1: would have gotten a text if your school district was closed.
Speaker 1: But my children went to public schools. But I didn't
Speaker 1: see any reporting this morning that the Loveland Public schools
Speaker 1: will be closed. So just remember Cincinnati public schools closed
Speaker 1: because of cold weather. What a perfect opportunity and segue
Speaker 1: to the stack of stupid. But before I get to that,
Speaker 1: let's get Larry. Larry, welcome to the program. Happy Friday
Speaker 1: Eve to you.
Speaker 5: Happy Friday evening to you, Friday Eve to you, the
Speaker 5: wrong thanks brother.
Speaker 3: First off, I want.
Speaker 5: To first off, all, let's say I pray for you,
Speaker 5: because I know you're putting cant.
Speaker 3: There, so I'm praying for you.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, and the same.
Speaker 5: On what's you know how much I do appreciate your
Speaker 5: show and listening to you for about.
Speaker 3: At least two years, I know, maybe three first.
Speaker 5: Time CAULI though, sir, I'm not sure why, but the
Speaker 5: pound five fifty does not work on my AT and
Speaker 5: T phone. Really maybe that's something, Yeah, on mind, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why. Yeah, Joe Strucker's throwing his hands
Speaker 1: up and he doesn't know. I don't know either, and
Speaker 1: I listen. I just I just get the message. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: here the phone numbers announce them. I understanding at some
Speaker 1: point they entered into a relationship with AT and T
Speaker 1: where you got pound five fifty. I don't know. So
Speaker 1: there's somebody out there out there that that that does
Speaker 1: work and knows that pound five fifty works. We could
Speaker 1: at least address Larry's personal phone concerns, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind solving that problem or having it confirmed that no,
Speaker 1: pound five fifty doesn't work anymore. And I'll have to
Speaker 1: talk to my superiors about that if I could ever
Speaker 1: find out who they are.
Speaker 5: Okay, Lansley's clarification thing, maybe I missunder So I thought
Speaker 5: I heard you make a comment about wasting your time
Speaker 5: not getting a college education.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. My whole tune on college has kind of
Speaker 1: changed over the years. And I see so many children,
Speaker 1: you know, and we talk about student debt, student loans,
Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. What are you getting by
Speaker 1: way of degree? Now? I would argue all day long, absolutely,
Speaker 1: get a college education if it's in a degree where
Speaker 1: there's an actual employment opportunity out there in the world.
Speaker 1: An engineering degree, a chemistry degree, a business degree, something concrete,
Speaker 1: something usable, something that maybe you know, crosses multiple different professions,
Speaker 1: which allows you flexibility. In my case, I got a
Speaker 1: political science degree. Now what would I have done with that, Larry,
Speaker 1: had I not gone on to law school. I have
Speaker 1: no idea. The only reason I've removed my major over
Speaker 1: to political science at the time is because I had
Speaker 1: every intention of going to law Schoolical science was one
Speaker 1: of those degrees that a lot of people you know,
Speaker 1: parlayed into getting into law school. The only reason. So
Speaker 1: that's why I joke about it's like getting a degree
Speaker 1: in art. I like art. It's a hobby. Though you
Speaker 1: can learn about art and focus on some particular genre
Speaker 1: or era and learn everything there is to know about
Speaker 1: it on your own. But having a degree in art,
Speaker 1: what are you going to use it for? How many
Speaker 1: how many opportunities for employment are there at Southeby's for example,
Speaker 1: probably none? And how many docents get paid? Docents are
Speaker 1: usually like a volunteer job at an art museum. So
Speaker 1: you know, you want to exit after four years with
Speaker 1: a degree in art, after spending one hundred thousand maybe
Speaker 1: dollars or more and paying interest on that over twenty
Speaker 1: plus years. No, I think that's a poor choice. So
Speaker 1: the value of the degree should be the deciding factor
Speaker 1: on whether you actually pursue that four year commitment. That's
Speaker 1: all I really meant. I know I was probably way
Speaker 1: too short handed with the way I commented on that,
Speaker 1: but you know, I've made these kind of comments a
Speaker 1: lot of times over the years, so I just kind
Speaker 1: of maybe wrongfully assumed that there was some context out
Speaker 1: in the general listening audience for where I was going.
Speaker 1: God bless you, man, and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: the kind words and for tuning into the fifty five
Speaker 1: casing Morning Show means the world to me. We've got
Speaker 1: another Is that another Larry Joe? Larry, welcome to the
Speaker 1: program in a very happy Friday eve to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning.
Speaker 8: Hey.
Speaker 3: I heard on the World News this morning about a
Speaker 3: Chinese telecommunications hat.
Speaker 12: Yep it was, and you'd have the same thing about it,
Speaker 12: mooring you to get found on that salt.
Speaker 1: It's called salt Typhoon. I have the article in front
Speaker 1: of me. Scared the living hell out of me, Larry,
Speaker 1: And yes, I was going to bring that up probably
Speaker 1: in the six o'clock hour. So if I get a
Speaker 1: couple stack of stupid stories in before the top of
Speaker 1: the hour. You will absolutely hear me bring this up
Speaker 1: because this is this is the stuff of nightmares. My
Speaker 1: friend Chinese Communist Party busy at work engaging right now
Speaker 1: in real what we call modern warfare. It's scary, it
Speaker 1: really is. Five point forty five fifty five KR City
Speaker 1: talk Station. Feel free to call, or I will do
Speaker 1: a couple stack of stupid stories. It is the five
Speaker 1: o'clock hour. I'm still enjoying my wake up coffee, but
Speaker 1: I always enjoy hearing from you, So we could talk
Speaker 1: if you If you prefer that, feel free to do so.
Speaker 1: Five forty five right now for you do five KR
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Speaker 13: The day's news, the CEO of United Healthcare was shot
Speaker 13: at targeted attack.
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Speaker 1: Five forty nine. If about kercit talk station Friday e oh.
Speaker 1: By the way back to the Larry's call earlier, Pound
Speaker 1: five fifty does work and thanks to the folks if
Speaker 1: you use that to call in to confirm it works.
Speaker 1: So sorry, pal, it's your phone. Let you get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of that one five three seven hundred two
Speaker 1: three fock and I can confidently say pound five fifty
Speaker 1: on your AT and T phone. And again, listener lunch
Speaker 1: yesterday was awesome. I did not mention, and I should have.
Speaker 1: I lost to Cribbage Mike. We were neck and neck
Speaker 1: and neck O just passed the skunk line, which I
Speaker 1: did pass, and then he got like two hands in
Speaker 1: a row that netted him thirty points and he crossed
Speaker 1: the finish line. So congratulations Cribbage Mike on another well
Speaker 1: deserved victory. Live to fight another day. I will. And
Speaker 1: speaking of that other day, we're going to try to
Speaker 1: hit some micro breweries next year. And so the next
Speaker 1: listener lunch you want to put it down to counter,
Speaker 1: it's the eighth. We're not going to do it on
Speaker 1: the first, that being the well holiday, So eighth of
Speaker 1: January we're going to be at High Green Brewery. High
Speaker 1: Green Brewery which is on Winton Road. They had pretty
Speaker 1: nice menu. We checked it out out, and then we're
Speaker 1: going to have We're going to be back at Little
Speaker 1: Miami Brewery in Milford in February. So we may make
Speaker 1: it a year of microbreweries, at least ones that have
Speaker 1: really good food menus and who are also willing to
Speaker 1: take on the listener lunch crowd. So let us see
Speaker 1: here over to the stack is stupid, Well, this is strange.
Speaker 1: Got a Central California teacher died last month after being
Speaker 1: bitten by a bat. They say presumably had rabies, and
Speaker 1: it happened inside the classroomchrys will no wait a second,
Speaker 1: marking the third such fatality in North America in recent weeks.
Speaker 1: Lay Seang inn awake of her death November twenty second,
Speaker 1: public officials warning public with the dangers of bats, the
Speaker 1: most common source of human rabies in the United States.
Speaker 1: Fun fact I did not know. Even though fewer than
Speaker 1: ten people in the country die from rabies every year,
Speaker 1: it's almost all fatal if not treated quickly. This sixty
Speaker 1: year old Senang found a bat in her classroom. According
Speaker 1: to her friend, she tried to scoop it up and
Speaker 1: take it outside, but it bit her, which wild animals
Speaker 1: tend to do. She didnt immediately have symptoms of rabies,
Speaker 1: but fell ill weeks later. Taken to the hospital where
Speaker 1: she was put into heavily and a medically induced coma
Speaker 1: and died days later. She was a teacher at Bryant
Speaker 1: Middle School in Dos Pados, California, referred in the school
Speaker 1: district referred to as a dedicated and compassionate educator, which
Speaker 1: I would expect. Watch out for bats, but don't kill them.
Speaker 1: Bats are awesome and very important to the ecosystem. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: big news for folks following the Vatican and the various
Speaker 1: Pulpe mobiles that have been used over the years. The
Speaker 1: Vatican announced yesterday and unveiled the new open top Pulpe
Speaker 1: mobile and of course all electric Mercedes Benz that he
Speaker 1: will use when he greets pilgrims at Saint Peter's Square. Vehicle,
Speaker 1: described as a modified version of Germany's Companies, a G
Speaker 1: class mid sized luxury suv, has an elevated seat so
Speaker 1: the Pope can well get a better view of the
Speaker 1: crowds and the crowds and get a better view of
Speaker 1: the Pope. Joe Gee, why was that in the stack
Speaker 1: of stupid? Sorry? Movie actress met an untimely end after
Speaker 1: consuming a potion containing a poisoned frog called Cambo idiots
Speaker 1: doing idiot things because they're idiots. Never heard of this
Speaker 1: person who's referred to a movie star. Marcella Alcazar Rodriguez
Speaker 1: was that a spiritual retreat in Mexico took part in
Speaker 1: what they called a cleansing ritual, which used a substance
Speaker 1: made from the giant monkey frog, whichparently secrets a hallucinogenic
Speaker 1: substance potion itself. They say it causes vomiting and uncontrollable diarrhea.
Speaker 1: It's thought to clear out the system for the retreat visitors.
Speaker 1: So you walk into this open eyed. By the way,
Speaker 1: here you go have this, you will start having uncontrolled
Speaker 1: vomiting and diarrhea. Go ahead, drink up. Potion said to
Speaker 1: be forty times stronger than morphine. Idiots doing idiot things
Speaker 1: because they're idiots. However, when she consumed it, apparently her
Speaker 1: whole body cause was started to spasm and when it
Speaker 1: edited her system. Local reports there said she died hours
Speaker 1: later at the Red Cross Hospital. Not yet confirm whether
Speaker 1: the poison caused her death. I'm going to go with yes.
Speaker 1: Durango State Attorney General's office said they're investigating her death
Speaker 1: and looking for the leader of this spiritual retreat, who
Speaker 1: happened to have fled the scene after she died. Autopsy
Speaker 1: is currently being investigated, and it's thought to have a
Speaker 1: clearer idea of the car death once it comes back.
Speaker 1: Says she had a vast movie career, mainly worked in
Speaker 1: the United States, but also took jobs in Mexico, co
Speaker 1: starring in the indie rom com New Low.
Speaker 14: Nobody Cares, Thank.
Speaker 1: You, Joe. Variety dubbed it a cult hit. Joe, you
Speaker 1: still got your hard copy of Variety showing up at
Speaker 1: your home every day or every week or whatever often
Speaker 1: it comes. No thanks Dad, anyway. Don't drink giant monkey
Speaker 1: frog poisoning or or or don't engage in a closing
Speaker 1: ritual in Mexico. I think, generally speaking, that's probably sound
Speaker 1: advice we've learned over the years of the Stack. Argue
Speaker 1: with that the Stack is stupid. That if your quote
Speaker 1: unquote doctor H schedules your butt enhancement surgery at a
Speaker 1: Motel six, you might not want to do that either.
Speaker 1: Fivefty five ifty five cares to detalk station. Feel free
Speaker 1: to call love to hear from You got plenty to
Speaker 1: talk about, including what the caller mentioned This Chinese hack
Speaker 1: latest in a long campaign by the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 1: to gather information, made even worse by an article I
Speaker 1: found from the Rutherford Institute headline, you better watch out.
Speaker 1: The surveillance State is making a list and you're on it. Wow.
Speaker 1: Mind blowing. It's like a boiled down version of literally
Speaker 1: everything Dave Hatter has been talking about in the Morning
Speaker 1: Show over the last ten years. And it's scary. Don't
Speaker 1: go away right back after the news ever changing world.
Speaker 1: There's one constant you can depend on. Fifty five krc
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Speaker 1: Six or six FI fifty five r se DE talks
Speaker 1: day h Briyantom Soush and everybody Very Happy Friday. And
Speaker 1: still mocking the Cincinnti public schools for closing because of
Speaker 1: cold weather. I'm just reeling over that teachers have to
Speaker 1: show up. If teachers can make it in, why can't
Speaker 1: the kids make it in anyhow? It's just frustrating me
Speaker 1: this morning, among other things. Before I get to the
Speaker 1: story that the Restless or the Caller mentioned earlier in
Speaker 1: the program, At these Chinese Communist Party hacks, a couple
Speaker 1: of things real quick here. I probably assume that you've
Speaker 1: heard by now that the United Healthcare CEO got assassinated
Speaker 1: yesterday in New York City, was getting ready to go
Speaker 1: to the United health Group investor conference. His name Brian Thompson,
Speaker 1: no relation. Clearly thought it was really wild that he's
Speaker 1: married to a woman named paul Ette or the late
Speaker 1: Brian Thompson was married to paul Ette, since that's my name,
Speaker 1: so we've got a close name connection. But here's for
Speaker 1: my conspiracy theorist friends out there, let's start one. No
Speaker 1: idea why it was targeted for assassination. Clearly everyone has
Speaker 1: concluded he was targeted the assailor or the assassin was
Speaker 1: waiting for him, apologize. Evan Proms this morning waited for him.
Speaker 1: Obviously wanted that specific guy, since he was hanging around
Speaker 1: for a while waiting for him to come out. United
Speaker 1: Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was one of a number of
Speaker 1: senior executives being investigated by the Justice Department for insider trading.
Speaker 1: Apparently he had exercised stock options. Nothing nothing to see here,
Speaker 1: sold shares worth fifteen point one million dollars in February,
Speaker 1: roughly two weeks before news of the federal antitrust investigation
Speaker 1: became public. So go ahead draw your own conclusions, because
Speaker 1: I say, conspiracy theory can start stirring the pot of
Speaker 1: that one. Because after he died, United Health Group Incorporated
Speaker 1: stock jump five point five six percent. Yesterday it's up
Speaker 1: to six hundred and ten dollars and seventy nine cents
Speaker 1: a share. Now, I will acknowledge that the pre market
Speaker 1: futures are are trading down, but not much compared to
Speaker 1: the five point five percent increase yesterday. I'm sorry, five
Speaker 1: point five percent, a five point five to six fifty
Speaker 1: six cents jump in the stock price. That was zero
Speaker 1: point ninety two percent, So almost one percent increase in
Speaker 1: the stock price now I get my facts right. Anyhow, nothing
Speaker 1: to see there. It'd be interesting to find out why
Speaker 1: specifically he was targeted, because no one knows where that
Speaker 1: guy went. He took off on the New York City
Speaker 1: version of a red bike. Apparently they have enough money
Speaker 1: in New York City to pay for that. Anyway, Over,
Speaker 1: the frightening reality that the world, obviously of warfare, has
Speaker 1: changed dramatically since everything on the planet is now connected
Speaker 1: by the Internet or so electronically in some form. The
Speaker 1: Chinese government hackers have compromised telecommunications infrastructure all around the world,
Speaker 1: according to US security officials in a release yesterday describing
Speaker 1: it as a massive espionage campaign press conference with Anne Newberger,
Speaker 1: President Biden's Deputy National Security Advisor for cyber and Emerging Technologies,
Speaker 1: said this so called salt typhoon, as opposed to volt typhoon,
Speaker 1: which we've talked about before. Salt typhoon campaign is ongoing.
Speaker 1: And that's a word worth circling when you're reading about this,
Speaker 1: because it ain't over. And wait till you find out
Speaker 1: what they've been listening to and capturing by way of
Speaker 1: data that hit at least eight telecommunications firms in the
Speaker 1: United States. They were all breached. According to her statement,
Speaker 1: the Chinese compromise private companies exploiting vulnerabilities in their systems
Speaker 1: as part of a global Chinese campaign that's affected dozens
Speaker 1: of countries around the world. Now, of course, the Chinese
Speaker 1: government denied it. Nothing is he here right? We don't
Speaker 1: interfere with elections. This was first reported back in September
Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal, but her remarks the most
Speaker 1: specific public acknowledgment yet by our government regarding this vast
Speaker 1: scope and severity of the hacking campaign, which investigators of
Speaker 1: Trace two. Of course, the Chinese Intelligence agency. Wall Street
Speaker 1: Journal previously identified Verizon AT and TT Mobile Lumen technologies
Speaker 1: among the victims, but also you, as was reported or
Speaker 1: released in her conference yesterday, saying, in her words, a
Speaker 1: large number of Americans have their cell phones and metadata
Speaker 1: accessed in the intrusion. They declined to say how many Americans,
Speaker 1: but said it wasn't believed that all Americans had their
Speaker 1: metadata compromise. Well, isn't that comforting. Here's a list of
Speaker 1: everybody that had their data compromise, and here's another list
Speaker 1: of the people who who didn't. I'll let you guess
Speaker 1: which list is longer. Anyway, to this metadata attack and
Speaker 1: this capturing of all the data that's on, including probably
Speaker 1: your cell phone, they say that it was regional in focus,
Speaker 1: and thus they suspect the point was to identify phone
Speaker 1: lines of valuable senior government officials. So you know, if
Speaker 1: you target the greater Langley area, you're likely to capture
Speaker 1: people the work of the CIA. You get the idea
Speaker 1: of how that works. They see the hackers then targeted
Speaker 1: the phones to steal uencrypted text messages, listen to some
Speaker 1: phone calls as well. Previously reported, President elect Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: Vice President elect JD. Van senior congressional staffers, and a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of security officials here in the United States
Speaker 1: were among our the United States were among a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of folks described as scores who have had their
Speaker 1: calls and texts directly targeted in this particular attack. And
Speaker 1: I had read that specific report earlier, but now I
Speaker 1: suppose this release from our intelligence folks reflects the massive
Speaker 1: size and scope, far bigger than they originally had reported.
Speaker 1: And it's reported that investigators are still working to figure
Speaker 1: out the full parameters of the ongoing intrusions by this
Speaker 1: Salt typhoon attack. It has not been eradicated. It is
Speaker 1: still out there. In opressed briefing, Newberger said that it
Speaker 1: wasn't believed that the classified communications were accessed in the breach.
Speaker 1: It wasn't believed. Now you go ahead and take comfort
Speaker 1: in that statement if you want. It wasn't believed that
Speaker 1: classified communications were access to the breaches, but it's certainly
Speaker 1: possible that they were. She said, quote, we do not
Speaker 1: believe any have fully removed the Chinese actors from these networks,
Speaker 1: So that is a reminder that there's a risk of
Speaker 1: ongoing compromise of United States telephone calls until the companies
Speaker 1: fully addressed the cybersecurity gaps that they have which allowed
Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party to enter it in first place. This,
Speaker 1: in addition to the compromising private unencrypted calls and text
Speaker 1: hackers were able to access information from systems maintained by
Speaker 1: the carriers to comply with US surveillance requests. In other words,
Speaker 1: there's stuff in there in the systems that the United
Speaker 1: States government made them put in there so they could
Speaker 1: get surveillance. Our government gets surveillance. Does that make it
Speaker 1: any better? Is it cool that our government is surveiling
Speaker 1: your phone calls without a warrant? But uncool that the
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party is doing it as well? Again an
Speaker 1: interesting thought question. Our Tuesday officials conceded that they don't
Speaker 1: know when the hackers might be purged from the telecomis
Speaker 1: munications infrastructure and urge people to use encrypted acts to
Speaker 1: protect their phone calls and texts. Quote, it would be
Speaker 1: impossible for us to predict a time frame on when
Speaker 1: we'll have full evictions that, according to Jeffrey Green, senior
Speaker 1: official at the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, guests are
Speaker 1: apparently is one of those. Well doesn't that make you
Speaker 1: feel nice and comfortable? So, in other words, I glean
Speaker 1: from that that this compliance with US surveillance request in
Speaker 1: hackers that were able to access the system. Because of that,
Speaker 1: we in essence facilitated the ease of the Chinese Communist
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Speaker 1: Talk Station. Very Happy Friday Eve. Thanks again every name
Speaker 1: me to listener. Lunches day is just going through the
Speaker 1: photographs again. Props in great thanks and love love to
Speaker 1: Rebecca Grop you for taking this photograph. If anybody wants
Speaker 1: to know what cribbage Mike's looks like, and you're friends
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Speaker 1: the Christmas jacket and sitting next to his lovely bride.
Speaker 1: So congratulations again Mike. I'm kicking my butt in cribbage yesterday.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the phone. See what Maureen's got today, Maureen,
Speaker 1: Happy Friday Eve to you. Thanks for calling.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Brian. I've planned on sleeping in until I
Speaker 4: heard you say the word conspiracy. You're slipping. It's supposed
Speaker 4: to be consp.
Speaker 1: Pattern observer, pattern observer. That's it. That's it. Okay, and
Speaker 1: you are my favorite. You are my favorite pattern observer.
Speaker 1: I've acknowledged that over time, So thank you. Well.
Speaker 4: I do have three more things to add to your
Speaker 4: story about United health Care. Okay, you already informed everybody
Speaker 4: about thirty one percent and stuff that Brian Thompson soul
Speaker 4: taking in fifteen one million, as you said in proceeds,
Speaker 4: So now the other two things are in legal documents.
Speaker 4: Investigators said that Thompson and other company executives sold over
Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy million worth of United Healthcare common
Speaker 4: stock during the four month period when insiders knew about
Speaker 4: the federal antitrust investigation but the public did not know
Speaker 4: about it yet. And the other things that are interesting
Speaker 4: about this is that on February twenty first of this year,
Speaker 4: United Healthcare discovered a cybersecurity breach on the same day
Speaker 4: that Nancy Pelosi made her second purchase of Call options
Speaker 4: in Power Auto Networks, which is a cybersecurity company that
Speaker 4: was later chosen to investigate the breach. And Thompson was
Speaker 4: ready to testify in front of Congress about United Healthcare's
Speaker 4: hacks as well as their business practices. And now obviously
Speaker 4: he's not able to testify in front of Congress.
Speaker 1: Well, Marian, my pattern observer, did he have any connection
Speaker 1: with Epstein, Pedophile Island or maybe then the White Parties?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that multi billions digging, keep keep digging.
Speaker 1: Something tells you you'll probably run into that at some point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be connected to them too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyway, thanks for getting me.
Speaker 1: You know. I love you, Marien. Keep us on or
Speaker 1: does and keep observing the patterns, and please keep FB,
Speaker 1: Facebook Instant messaging me when you run across them. I
Speaker 1: do appreciate it. Some I believe more than others. Some
Speaker 1: are more likely to be true than others. And we've
Speaker 1: been going back and forth for years and years, and
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Speaker 1: Winter is coming, Yeah it is. And the Sinsey Public
Speaker 1: schools are closed because of cold weather. Yes, I keep
Speaker 1: bringing that up. Why all the other schools are open
Speaker 1: and how at least I presume so? Uh, just drive
Speaker 1: me crazy this morning with that one fun fact before
Speaker 1: we get to other local stories. Let's see what Jef's
Speaker 1: got this morning. Jeff, thanks for calling on a happy Friday,
Speaker 1: eve to you.
Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian.
Speaker 12: So just on the conspiracy theory, as you're on a
Speaker 12: quick Google search, most insurance companies have about an eight
Speaker 12: to denial rate and uh services. Yeah, but United Health
Speaker 12: United Health Caress that guy took over in two thousand
Speaker 12: and four close to thirty five percent.
Speaker 1: Holy cow.
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't.
Speaker 12: Surprise me if they find the guy and they find
Speaker 12: out that he lost the wife or a kid because
Speaker 12: of insurance or because of cover.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, Jeff, I agree with you completely.
Speaker 1: When I saw the story and it first got released
Speaker 1: and I found that it was Wow, you didn't even
Speaker 1: know who the guy was. But CEO of United Health
Speaker 1: gets shot in the back in a literal assassination a
Speaker 1: target at attempt. That's exactly what went through my mind.
Speaker 1: He probably had his claim denied or likely said maybe
Speaker 1: a family member did. I didn't realize their denial rate
Speaker 1: was that high. That that's that's substantial. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: well let us speculate further. I appreciate it. Jeff, thanks
Speaker 1: for calling this morning. Man if I went three seven
Speaker 1: two three. You talk found five fifty on at and
Speaker 1: T phones anyhow, Hamilton County's proposed budget they got local
Speaker 1: festival organizers. Everybody's got their hand in the cookie jar,
Speaker 1: don't they? From your taxpayered hours? Anyway, Local festival organizers
Speaker 1: asking Hamilton County commissioners to consider an increase to a
Speaker 1: proposed budget line item for large event grants. Apparently it's
Speaker 1: response to the County Ministry's proposed budget, which is one
Speaker 1: point seven percent smaller than last year, driven primarily by
Speaker 1: reduction in sales tax revenue over certain months. Thank you
Speaker 1: Andrew Rowan from WCPO reporting inflationary pressures driving consumers to
Speaker 1: spend less, which impacts county governments sets their anyway. A
Speaker 1: County Ministry's proposed budget reduces funding for economic development slash
Speaker 1: tourism grants from one point two to five million to
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand dollars. Apparently, grant funding went last year
Speaker 1: to Blank Flying Pig Marathon Forbes thirty under thirty in
Speaker 1: the Cincinni Music Festival. They split that grant money up.
Speaker 1: At a public hearing Tuesday this week, America river Roots
Speaker 1: Festival organizer to ask the commissioners to reconsider coach air.
Speaker 1: Tim Fogarty quoted as saying, in a year like twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, once again we will be without downtown Convention
Speaker 1: Center events like American River Roots or Vital of the
Speaker 1: County's success. Thousands expected to gather on the banks for
Speaker 1: that America River Roots festivals, celebrating the region's music, cuisine
Speaker 1: and culture. So finite number of dollars and an infinite
Speaker 1: number of things people want money for. Just a plain old,
Speaker 1: simple reality. And go ahead and ask yourself how it
Speaker 1: is that two inmates died in custody within one week
Speaker 1: at the Hamilton County Justice Center. No one has any
Speaker 1: ends yet. Fifty four years old Matthew Denlar died at
Speaker 1: the Justice Center a last Thursday. I guess it was
Speaker 1: the November twenty eighth, according to the department spokes first
Speaker 1: in Kylo Woods again speaking well speaking with Cameron Knight
Speaker 1: of the inquiry on this one, Thank you. Cameron. Admitted
Speaker 1: to jail on Tuesday, November twenty sixth, Woods said Denlar
Speaker 1: was had been arrested on open warrants. Woods said he
Speaker 1: was found unresponsive Thursday in his cell. Officers and medical
Speaker 1: staff attempted life saving measures. They were unsuccessful in that.
Speaker 1: Then we had Jacob Grayson. Twenty five year old Jacob
Speaker 1: Grayson collapsed Wednesday in the common area of the pod.
Speaker 1: That was last Wednesday, according to Woods. Officers and medical
Speaker 1: staff responded. They took him to UC Medical centerhere he
Speaker 1: later died. No report yet from the coroner's office, so
Speaker 1: we don't know the actual date of his death. Court
Speaker 1: documents say Grayson was arrested on the twenty fifth on
Speaker 1: a probation violation. He had pleaded no contest possessing fenton
Speaker 1: or related compounds back in February, apparently parle violation because
Speaker 1: he tested positive for fentanyl and then failed to report
Speaker 1: to the probation department. In July, Enquirer said that fourteen
Speaker 1: people have died at the Hamletin County Justice Center between
Speaker 1: August of twenty twenty and September twenty twenty three, so
Speaker 1: they can add these two to the list. That's apparently growing.
Speaker 1: Corner's office working to determine the cause of death for
Speaker 1: both of the inmates. Sheriff's office also investigating six thirty
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Speaker 1: We got a whole bunch of things to go over
Speaker 1: with Jay in the meantime. Over to the phones, Al,
Speaker 1: thank you for holding over the break. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3: Good morning, Brian. I appreciate you taking my call. I'm
Speaker 3: generally a listener. I try not to speak too much,
Speaker 3: but I felt somewhat moved to call after Larry made
Speaker 3: his comments about college, and I felt that there was
Speaker 3: a need to add some context to you were my
Speaker 3: and I'm sure many parents out there about college education.
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, hold on, real quick, real quick. I
Speaker 1: just I'm going to re ceute it so the listeners
Speaker 1: who weren't listening earlier know what we're talking about. I
Speaker 1: had made a very awful hand. I had made a
Speaker 1: very off the cuff statement about the lack of value
Speaker 1: of a college education without providing any context, and I
Speaker 1: should have. And then he followed up and said, basically,
Speaker 1: what do you mean by, you know what the valueless?
Speaker 1: In essence? And I said, certain degrees I view as
Speaker 1: a colossal waste of time. Don't go into debt for,
Speaker 1: for example, an art degree, because there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of employment opportunities out there in the art world. Get
Speaker 1: a degree, yes, definitely, if it's in the business realm
Speaker 1: or the like, for engineering or other there are many
Speaker 1: fields where a college degree is not only valuable, but
Speaker 1: often absolutely required. So I thoughtful, you know, cost benefit
Speaker 1: analysis is really what I've always advocated for, rather than
Speaker 1: just saying I'm going to go to college and get,
Speaker 1: for example, I my degree, a political science degree. If
Speaker 1: that's all you're going to do, I don't recommend doing that,
Speaker 1: so go ahead with your thoughts and comments on that
Speaker 1: general topic.
Speaker 3: Al okay, well, I appreciate that you know two points.
Speaker 3: First of all, I had the experience of being in
Speaker 3: the belly of the beast, actually cared for many of
Speaker 3: our young skulls full of mush at the medical center
Speaker 3: at one of our esteemed public universities in Ohio. And
Speaker 3: I did that for a couple of years. And I
Speaker 3: made a point of asking each student that came in
Speaker 3: to see me, why are you here? And the full
Speaker 3: eighty five to ninety percent of the individuals that I
Speaker 3: saw during my tenure gave me the same answer, and
Speaker 3: that answer was to experience college. And what that left
Speaker 3: me was WTF moment several times a day. And the
Speaker 3: thing is, most of the foreign students, on the other hand,
Speaker 3: actually came to this country to glean as much as
Speaker 3: they could in some sort of stem subject there are
Speaker 3: My thought is that many of the parents and many
Speaker 3: of the students are taking on hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 3: dollars in debt and getting nothing for.
Speaker 1: It except four year party.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, don't let your kids watch Animal House ever.
Speaker 3: But no, I actually put three sons through school, and
Speaker 3: I have three different results. My oldest son graduated with
Speaker 3: a degree in political science actually diplomacy and Spanish. He
Speaker 3: is now working the bank. My middle son graduated in
Speaker 3: chemistry and he's actually using that degree. My youngest son
Speaker 3: three years and his education process decided, hey, this isn't
Speaker 3: for me, and I thanked him for dropping out, and
Speaker 3: he is now climbing the rungs of a successful company
Speaker 3: in Columbus and is now being put to school by
Speaker 3: that company to learn exactly what he was trying to
Speaker 3: learn in college, which was electrical engineering.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. That's awesome. Yet me see,
Speaker 1: your outcome is a great one. I guess the political
Speaker 1: science backs up my comment. Your son who got a
Speaker 1: political science is working at a bank, and bully for
Speaker 1: him for getting a degree in Spanish as well. That
Speaker 1: has wide broad application because so many people in the
Speaker 1: world speak Spanish. But you know, excellent outcomes all three.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad you called back up to or called
Speaker 1: up to clarify that and give us your personal illustration
Speaker 1: on that again thoughtful analysis. When you said eighty five
Speaker 1: percent for the college experience, you know what someone had
Speaker 1: set me down my first couple of weeks or months
Speaker 1: in college, I might have given the same response because,
Speaker 1: of course, in high school, yeah, I saw Animal House
Speaker 1: five six forty five, he talks, and I also had
Speaker 1: older friends who were already involved in the college experience,
Speaker 1: and most notably the fraternity life, which made me salivate
Speaker 1: at the prospect of going to college really had nothing
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Speaker 1: bill and you how adoption and pregnancy programs in the
Speaker 1: meantime over the phones, New Hampshire, Gary, thanks for holding
Speaker 1: over the break there, my friend, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: Good to hear from you today.
Speaker 16: How you doing, Brian?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: I keep my train of fluck here. It's snowing up
Speaker 2: here and I'm driving through it.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, are the children in New Hampshire going
Speaker 1: to school today?
Speaker 2: They called the whole state off today. It's just like
Speaker 2: it's oh my god, no, it's got a niche just snow.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's raining too, it's rain.
Speaker 1: You know you're done, no school?
Speaker 2: Stop the world, it's raining. It's just crazy.
Speaker 7: It is.
Speaker 2: My thought is a is and I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: think forward a little bit. With Hunter Biden getting community fine, okay,
Speaker 2: for the last ten years. Fine, Okay, you're dealing with
Speaker 2: a lot of unsavory people, both in China, Ukraine, Russia,
Speaker 2: the whole world, and you can't help but to think,
Speaker 2: if he's going to be testifying, or if it's forced
Speaker 2: to testify, if he's not going to wind up like
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe or Jeffrey Epstein or somebody like that. You know,
Speaker 2: he ode who would be shocked, you know. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's a good thing, but I see
Speaker 2: some really bad scenarios coming up in the future for this.
Speaker 2: You know, I got my popcorn out.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, keep it up.
Speaker 2: I'll still be done way or another, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, keep it out. I'm surprised you didn't bring
Speaker 1: up Brian Thompson, the late CEO of United Health Group,
Speaker 1: who was facing his own issues in terms of the
Speaker 1: securities investigation he was involved with and got assassinated the
Speaker 1: other day. So add that to the list. That's why
Speaker 1: I was joking earlier with Maureen. My pattern observer. We
Speaker 1: don't call it conspiracy theories anymore. We call it pattern observation,
Speaker 1: which is aligned with what you're talking about right now
Speaker 1: that you know, maybe he was also on a pedophile
Speaker 1: Island with Mike geb Er, with Epstein and maybe he
Speaker 1: actually attended some of Ditty's white parties. Who knows the
Speaker 1: details that guests come out. It's why we keep our
Speaker 1: popcorn out at all times. Gary, great hearing from your brother.
Speaker 1: Careful out there in that snow, watch up for school
Speaker 1: children who aren't actually going to school.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this as we get over to
Speaker 1: the top of the our news and talk to Lieukenant
Speaker 1: gumnor John Houston about these bathroom bill and I don't
Speaker 1: have any problem with it. I appreciate it, Jared, Gary,
Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with keeping men in a
Speaker 1: transgender women. I'd be a guy that believes to be
Speaker 1: a woman, and I don't deny the existence of those folks,
Speaker 1: and I don't deny what's going on in their head
Speaker 1: makes them really believe that they're that particular sex. So,
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact you got a twig and berries,
Speaker 1: think inside your head that you're a woman and therefore
Speaker 1: should be treated by like a woman and be allowed
Speaker 1: to use women's facilities. At least that's the concept of
Speaker 1: what's going on. That's why we have the bathroom Bill,
Speaker 1: which prevents biological men, biological men from now using women's restrooms.
Speaker 1: And I understand why that is offensive to some people,
Speaker 1: me included not the bill itself or the law itself,
Speaker 1: but the idea of biological men going into women's bathrooms.
Speaker 1: Because I have a daughter, and I think of my
Speaker 1: daughter now twenty eight engaged. I'm so happy about that,
Speaker 1: But as an eight year old, or a nine year old,
Speaker 1: or a ten year old, any young lady, young person,
Speaker 1: a girl. And I only bring that up again because
Speaker 1: as we go over to the top of our news
Speaker 1: and enter to this conversation with Lieutenant Governor, remember that
Speaker 1: you are a transgender woman, in other words, of biological
Speaker 1: male that believes to be a woman. That does not
Speaker 1: define your sexuality. What you are drawn to sexually is
Speaker 1: independent of what's going on in your head. So, for example,
Speaker 1: if a transgender woman was attracted to women, and that
Speaker 1: is certainly possible, right if they weren't a transgender woman,
Speaker 1: that would make them a heterosexual male. Now, if you
Speaker 1: are a heterosexual male, should you be allowed to use
Speaker 1: women's facilities if you don't profess to be a woman.
Speaker 1: Isn't that generally the concern that we you know, rational,
Speaker 1: common sense, chromosomally based, scientifically based people think about this.
Speaker 1: You know, the idea of men being in women's bathrooms,
Speaker 1: if you take the transgender woman label off of it,
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy going into a woman's bathroom. Now,
Speaker 1: that guy may be attracted to men, in which case
Speaker 1: the idea of them molesting your daughter is probably pretty low,
Speaker 1: unless they're a pedophile or perhaps bisexual, in which case
Speaker 1: they're attracted to everybody. It's a very complicated thing, But
Speaker 1: it's not that there's a discrimination against a transgender woman necessarily,
Speaker 1: so much as the idea of a girl being molested
Speaker 1: by someone, which I suppose a woman could molest another
Speaker 1: girl in the bathroom too, if a well trended lesbian
Speaker 1: right and guys. You know, over all these years where
Speaker 1: there's been separate men's rooms and women's rooms, we have
Speaker 1: may have been surrounded by gay men. I've been I'm
Speaker 1: fifty nine years old. I don't know how many times
Speaker 1: that happened, and I'm guessing it's happened a gazillion times.
Speaker 1: I never got touched, Nobody ever tried to lay a
Speaker 1: finger on me. I never got hit on in a bathroom.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because I have a face for radio.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But that's the reality that we're dealing
Speaker 1: with here. So it's a question of one's sexual proclivities
Speaker 1: cloaked under the veil of this idea that you can
Speaker 1: be a gender that you're not. So whether or not
Speaker 1: you believe that you can be a gender that you're
Speaker 1: not doesn't take out of the equation the whole concept
Speaker 1: of one's sexual proclivities. So just let that percolate in
Speaker 1: your brain a little bit, because we're gonna have Lieutenant
Speaker 1: comn to John Houston to talk about the bathroom bill
Speaker 1: as well as Ohio adoption and pregnancy programs. Then we
Speaker 1: get Donovan O'Neil for Americans for Prosperity to talk about
Speaker 1: school choice expansion. That'll be after the news stigure out.
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Speaker 1: start out talking about before we get to the adoption
Speaker 1: and pregnancy help, the common sense as you described a
Speaker 1: bathroom bill recently signed in a law by Governor Mike Dewain.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the firty five Cacy morning. So, John Huston,
Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 8: Great to be with you this morning.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with an interesting thought question, shall we
Speaker 1: before we get to the details. Basically, the bathroom bill
Speaker 1: requires you know, if you when you are born, you're
Speaker 1: as signed agender X and Y chromosome, you're a guy, period,
Speaker 1: end of story. That scientific reality. So that means you
Speaker 1: can't go into a women's bathroom K through twelve and
Speaker 1: higher education. That's basically the summoned substance. You know, boys
Speaker 1: going to boys rooms, girls going to girls rooms. But
Speaker 1: transgender women means you are a X Y gender male.
Speaker 1: But believe and I'm not going to deny your belief structure,
Speaker 1: but believe yourself to be a woman. Question, John, you said,
Speaker 1: if you what test is there? This is why I
Speaker 1: justify the bill and think it's appropriate. What does it
Speaker 1: take to become a designated true transgender female? And I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about this in the context of the COVID nineteen
Speaker 1: religious exemptions for vaccines. They started asking people questions about
Speaker 1: how often they went to church, what they believed in.
Speaker 1: There was all these layers, which was totally unconstitutional. But
Speaker 1: does anybody ever ask the transgender female, did you just
Speaker 1: declare this before you went into the bathroom? Is that
Speaker 1: enough to allow you to get in the bathroom. This
Speaker 1: is the kind of problem we face because I have
Speaker 1: a daughter, and it worries the hell out of me
Speaker 1: that a guy, a forty year old guy, who just
Speaker 1: stands up one day, holds his hands up and says,
Speaker 1: I'm a transgender female. It's going to be in a
Speaker 1: bathroom with her. You know what I'm saying, Amen, I do.
Speaker 17: It is really unbelievable that we're at a point in
Speaker 17: the world where we actually need a law like this
Speaker 17: where it says to you know, if you're a biological
Speaker 17: man at birth, then you will go to the boys
Speaker 17: or men's bathroom, and likewise if you're a female.
Speaker 8: That is common sense.
Speaker 3: That is what I mean.
Speaker 8: For all of my life fifty seven now and all
Speaker 8: of my life up until what five ten years ago,
Speaker 8: like this was how we all, like no one questioned
Speaker 8: that this is what we should do, right, And now
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, Now, all of a sudden, we
Speaker 8: think men can play women's sports, they can undress in
Speaker 8: their locker rooms, they can use their bathrooms, forty year
Speaker 8: old men going into the same bathroom with a ten
Speaker 8: year old girl, not you know, your teenage daughters not
Speaker 8: having a private space to I mean, it's just all
Speaker 8: of these kinds of things that.
Speaker 3: Literally we have a.
Speaker 8: Section of society that believes that that the whole world,
Speaker 8: a whole history of humanity, should be changed over how
Speaker 8: someone views their gender in their mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and it makes it and it makes
Speaker 1: it worse because you know, it's one thing because okay,
Speaker 1: someone might say, well, there's a stall and you're not
Speaker 1: going to be looking at someone's junk or whatever. This
Speaker 1: includes showers, this is locker rooms.
Speaker 8: This is okay, I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: You I wouldn't.
Speaker 8: I was, actually, you know, I was in disbelief that
Speaker 8: this was happening, Like I was.
Speaker 2: It was hard to believe.
Speaker 8: But I remember my one of the conversations I had
Speaker 8: with Riley Gains, the Kentucky swimmer who has been really
Speaker 8: outspoken on this because she'd lost she'd lost a a
Speaker 8: NCAA championship to a man who claimed to be a
Speaker 8: woman and swam in a women's meat in NCAA let
Speaker 8: him happen. She said that she was in the locker
Speaker 8: room with this man who had full male gentle talia, yeah,
Speaker 8: and was in the locker room undressing and is going
Speaker 8: to swim in the women's meat. And like, how in
Speaker 8: the world adults around this process could ever come to
Speaker 8: conclusion that that was okay, that this was that the
Speaker 8: whole rest of the world should change and accommodate. That
Speaker 8: really is what led to the need for these laws.
Speaker 1: Well, and I'm glad they're in place in Ohio now.
Speaker 1: Now the other component of this, and it's something that's
Speaker 1: quite often overlooked, I think the presumption the arguments from
Speaker 1: you know, those who are going to appeal this law,
Speaker 1: like the ACLU and the LGBT activist group were going
Speaker 1: to claim it's unconstitutional or something. The idea of a
Speaker 1: transgender woman again, a guy believing in his heart or
Speaker 1: her heart of hearts whatever, that they are Indeed, a
Speaker 1: woman does not in any way, shape or for determine
Speaker 1: what their sexual proclivities are. In other words, they could
Speaker 1: be attracted to women even though they identify as a woman.
Speaker 1: Meaning there is a forty five year old guy with
Speaker 1: full junk in the locker room and it's still attracted
Speaker 1: to women. That's the creepy part. Now, I know I've
Speaker 1: been in bathrooms. I'm fifty nine, it's a little bit
Speaker 1: older than you. And I'm sure that all throughout my
Speaker 1: life there have been gay men in the bathroom. Never
Speaker 1: had an issue, no problem, never been molested or attack.
Speaker 1: But I'm also in a better position to defend myself
Speaker 1: because I'm a little bit on equal footing with them.
Speaker 1: As you point out with Riley Gaines, men have a
Speaker 1: substantial size and strength advantage over women generally speaking, putting
Speaker 1: women at a significant disadvantage if they're in a situation
Speaker 1: where they're someone's trying to molest them in the in
Speaker 1: the girl's bathroom.
Speaker 8: Yes, and look, there are plenty of ways that we
Speaker 8: because I acknowledge that, Okay, there's a small percentage of
Speaker 8: people who have gender identity issue, y in a buck,
Speaker 8: call it what you want, okay, uh, And and there
Speaker 8: are you know, we have men's restrooms, we have women's restrooms,
Speaker 8: and then we have these single use family restrooms or
Speaker 8: where where where an individual can go into those and
Speaker 8: change or go to the bathroom do And those are
Speaker 8: perfectly appropriate accommodations for somebody in that situation. But the
Speaker 8: rest of the world should not have to accommodate something
Speaker 8: that makes them feel uncomfortable or threatens their privacy. And
Speaker 8: so this is a very common sense way to deal
Speaker 8: with the issue, in my opinion. And look, this is,
Speaker 8: as you well know, the whole issue of transgender surgeries
Speaker 8: and treatment for minors was before the US Supreme Court
Speaker 8: yesterday challenging a Tennessee law that's similar.
Speaker 1: To the Ohio law.
Speaker 8: Uh, you know the idea, because we're learning more all
Speaker 8: the time about the the fact that there are young
Speaker 8: people who've been persuaded to have these gender trans uh
Speaker 8: transgender surgeries and chemical hormonal treatments who had them as
Speaker 8: a youth and now as adults, really regret having done
Speaker 8: that because they were just confused. They might have been gay,
Speaker 8: but they were not transgender. Somehow the medical professionals or
Speaker 8: the adults in their lives persuaded them to do this,
Speaker 8: and now they have irreversible situation as adults. And so
Speaker 8: this is this is an issue about protecting everybody. They
Speaker 8: might giving giving transgender individuals, particularly children, accommodations, but let's
Speaker 8: not go too far with this, particularly with kids.
Speaker 1: And I'm not certain and I do not believe it
Speaker 1: is the town count of John Hyson that it is
Speaker 1: the considered medical standard of care to start giving youth,
Speaker 1: you know, pre pubescent youth gender hormone surge replacements to
Speaker 1: keep them from advancing into puberty or otherwise lopping things
Speaker 1: off or sewing things on. That is a dispute within
Speaker 1: the medical community.
Speaker 8: Oh, absolutely, And there's a lot of evidence, a lot
Speaker 8: of evidence that it's in the aggregate doing more harm
Speaker 8: than good. And understand like not to get into them.
Speaker 8: I'm not a doctor, but i will share I've done
Speaker 8: a lot of reading and listen to a lot of
Speaker 8: smart people on this topic who will tell you that
Speaker 8: if you do this to a child and they do
Speaker 8: not go through puberty, that is an irreversible situation for
Speaker 8: them as an adult. And let adults make those decisions.
Speaker 8: Don't have adults making them for children, particularly at very
Speaker 8: very young ages, which was where we're seeing a lot
Speaker 8: of this happen.
Speaker 1: Amen thenago and who said, let's pivot over to something
Speaker 1: positive and what we're doing here in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: And I know you have a personal connection with the
Speaker 1: idea that you know they're in. There are unplanned pregnancies
Speaker 1: in the world and we need to help support those
Speaker 1: women in all way shapes and forms this National Adoption Month.
Speaker 1: And I know you're an outspoken advocate for adoption on this.
Speaker 1: You want to explain to my listeners how it is
Speaker 1: you have such a close connection.
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I was.
Speaker 8: I was adopted. I started out life in a foster home.
Speaker 8: My birth mother had had two children and lost her
Speaker 8: husband in Vietnam, and then became pregnant and didn't couldn't
Speaker 8: afford another mouth to feed, and decided to have an adoption.
Speaker 8: And I started out life in a foster home and
Speaker 8: then had the greatest blessing that could have ever happened
Speaker 8: to me. Two great parents, my mom and dad, Jim
Speaker 8: and Judy Houston, adopted me. And so this is very
Speaker 8: near and dear to my heart because I know that
Speaker 8: foster care and adoption changed lives, not just the lives
Speaker 8: and children. Every adult who tells you that they've done
Speaker 8: it will say it changed our life too. Having this
Speaker 8: child in our lives made it more purposeful and meaningful,
Speaker 8: and so everything that we can do to promote adoption.
Speaker 8: We have over three thousand kids in foster care right
Speaker 8: now waiting for us forever home, and we want to
Speaker 8: support that and we want to do all we can
Speaker 8: to support adoption and foster care because there's so many
Speaker 8: kids who, through no fault of their own, find themselves
Speaker 8: in just a terrible situation and they need the love
Speaker 8: of adults. I mean, I will tell you this, I
Speaker 8: tell that story. It's not really about me. It's about
Speaker 8: how an adult can change the life of a child
Speaker 8: and give them a chance that they would have never
Speaker 8: had before.
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that. I am talking with the
Speaker 1: Lieutenant governor of the state of Ohio who came from
Speaker 1: a foster home and was adopted. What an amazing thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, your life is completely transformed, you know what.
Speaker 1: I think there needs to be greater advocacy for adoption,
Speaker 1: and we hear about adoption from time to time, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're elevating it to this level of discussion
Speaker 1: we're having here on the Morning Show. But you know,
Speaker 1: planned parenthood is everywhere they promote abortion, they suggest, oh
Speaker 1: you have to get an abortion. You're never gonna You
Speaker 1: shouldn't bring that baby in a full, full term, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have it. They're like constantly all over the place,
Speaker 1: just scream in that tune you know, wonder you wonder
Speaker 1: where the chorus is of Wait. A second adoption is
Speaker 1: a wonderful option, and great things come from families who
Speaker 1: adopt young people that are in need.
Speaker 3: Of a home.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Look, there are local women's and pregnancy centers because look,
Speaker 8: we had a constitutional amendment in Ohio. Abortions are allowed
Speaker 8: under the Ohio Constitution now basically you know, I mean
Speaker 8: it's one of the most expansive abortion laws in the country.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and so we have to change hearts and minds.
Speaker 8: It's our only path right now. And so no, if
Speaker 8: you're a man who's involved with this, a woman who's
Speaker 8: involved with this, the parent, somebody, that there is support
Speaker 8: out there through these women's and pregnancy centers. They're just
Speaker 8: the women I've met, particularly women I've met who run
Speaker 8: these things, who run these pregnancy centers. They are there
Speaker 8: for you. They will help you through this process. They
Speaker 8: will make sure that you're getting the healthcare before your
Speaker 8: baby's born. That they have a plan for you to
Speaker 8: make sure you have the resources you need to support
Speaker 8: a healthy start for that baby, and connect you with
Speaker 8: the resources are out there. You're not alone in this.
Speaker 8: You're not alone. There are people who want to help
Speaker 8: you have a healthy baby.
Speaker 1: Truly, there are, and the resources are available. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: just have to search for them. And because quite often
Speaker 1: the other side has a much better advocacy thing going
Speaker 1: on for you as.
Speaker 8: Your local pregnancy center. For the most part, if you
Speaker 8: go into a search engine, say you know, try to
Speaker 8: find a local pregnancy center, pregnancy center closest to me.
Speaker 8: You can also use search words like adoption or support
Speaker 8: for you know, young mothers, and you'll find it out there.
Speaker 8: They're they're all.
Speaker 1: They're located all across the state.
Speaker 8: They don't have they don't have the promotional budget that
Speaker 8: Planned Parenthood does, but they are out there. I've visited
Speaker 8: many of them across the state. These are These are
Speaker 8: angels who run this. They do not judge you. They
Speaker 8: do not They do not say, you know, this is
Speaker 8: what you should do with your life. They meet you
Speaker 8: where you are, they say, okay, you're in this spot,
Speaker 8: let's help you. They wrap their arms around you, love you,
Speaker 8: care about you, and show you a way forward and
Speaker 8: know that that resource is out there for you.
Speaker 1: Tennant Conor Johnny, So thank you for your advocacy for
Speaker 1: adoption and for women having their babies and noting that
Speaker 1: there are the resources out there. And I certainly appreciate
Speaker 1: your support for a common sense build. It is now
Speaker 1: the law in the state of Ohio. It's good to
Speaker 1: have you on the fifty five CARC Morning Show. Sir,
Speaker 1: keep up the great work.
Speaker 8: Thanks Brian, appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: It's always great to hear from Donovan and Neil. Welcome
Speaker 1: back Donovan, and Happy Friday Eve to you. Brian, happy
Speaker 1: to be back with you. Hopings are going well. They
Speaker 1: are going great in that holiday spirit, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it's not going to go away, so which is
Speaker 1: just putting a little extra spring them a step these
Speaker 1: late days now. I love the topic of conversation and
Speaker 1: I hope it's all positive because I am a huge
Speaker 1: proponent of school choice, recognizing that the public schools in
Speaker 1: many cases not all my children went to public schools,
Speaker 1: and so of why we both came out okay from
Speaker 1: my perspective anyway, but some of the public schools are
Speaker 1: literally failing our children, and many children basically are trapped
Speaker 1: in them with no alternatives. I like the concept, at
Speaker 1: least on some level. And the devil is always in
Speaker 1: the details of, you know, letting the money follow the child.
Speaker 1: So those who are on life's margins, who might not
Speaker 1: necessarily be able to afford, like so many in the
Speaker 1: public education system, do send their children to private schools.
Speaker 1: Can't necessarily do that. But if the public money were
Speaker 1: able to follow the child, that would give them a
Speaker 1: lot more flexibility. It doesn't prevent them from going to
Speaker 1: public schools. Of course, some of them are a magnet.
Speaker 1: But there are other options out there, and some children
Speaker 1: would and parents would certainly welcome the option of a
Speaker 1: different alternative. I can't I don't understand, Donovan, how this
Speaker 1: bears a political stripe unless you're a member of one
Speaker 1: of the public teachers' unions. Beyond that, Democrat, Republican, Socialist, Communist,
Speaker 1: Green Party, doesn't matter. If you've got kids, don't you
Speaker 1: want choice?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 15: I mean, I think that's what you find right when
Speaker 15: you actually begin to have conversations with folks on a
Speaker 15: level of hey, how do we unleash as much education
Speaker 15: opportunity in every student, every kid possible to ensure we
Speaker 15: have the greatest opportunities not just for our country in
Speaker 15: the future, but for every.
Speaker 1: Person lives here.
Speaker 15: And yeah, the large bulk of the opposition really truly
Speaker 15: does come from the teachers unions. And don't want to
Speaker 15: be clear, that's not necessarily the teachers. It's the administrators, right,
Speaker 15: It's the bosses, It's the folks who've been out of
Speaker 15: the classroom for a long time and make their living
Speaker 15: off of forced unionization wages. Those are the largest opponents
Speaker 15: of education opportunity. And then I think you have another
Speaker 15: group of folks who are afraid of competition. They just
Speaker 15: are afraid of competition, and when they see an opportunity
Speaker 15: for them to lose control, they kick back.
Speaker 1: And on the whole though, I think we are the momentums.
Speaker 15: Behind the folks who are pushing for school choice, who
Speaker 15: are pushing for education opportunity, who are pushing for empowering parents,
Speaker 15: empowering families to make the best education choices.
Speaker 1: For their kids and their future. Now it sounds like
Speaker 1: probably could have a whole big bunch of people, Like
Speaker 1: I said, political affiliation doesn't matter here. Everyone should be
Speaker 1: in racing this. So where's the hold of what's stopping
Speaker 1: us from advancing this kind of concept? Has it been
Speaker 1: tried elsewhere and being it has been proven successful elsewhere,
Speaker 1: What's what's your response to that, generally speaking?
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, so part of the challenge I think is
Speaker 15: momentum is kind of reminding folks where change needs to happen.
Speaker 15: And so that's part of what we did just yesterday
Speaker 15: this week, we brought about a dozen of our top activists,
Speaker 15: top volunteers from across the state to the state House
Speaker 15: for a day at the capitol to start laying a
Speaker 15: foundation for next year. Because we talked to lawmakers right
Speaker 15: and they've got a lot of it.
Speaker 1: There's hundreds of.
Speaker 15: Bills Brian of course at the state Capitol, and so
Speaker 15: they are juggling a lot of different pieces of information
Speaker 15: and inputs. And what we've got to do is remind
Speaker 15: him because they'll say, hey, we I thought we expanded
Speaker 15: school choice already this session, and we now have you know,
Speaker 15: anybody who wants to take an edge choice doctor can
Speaker 15: do that, and aren't we already in pretty good shape?
Speaker 15: And we could say yeah, largely, but there are forms
Speaker 15: that need to happen. Still, we need to make it
Speaker 15: easier for folks to be able to take your kid from.
Speaker 1: One school to another.
Speaker 15: We need to limit the amount of paperwork and bureaucracy
Speaker 15: that a parent has to go through to make that decision.
Speaker 15: And so we brought those activists to the State House
Speaker 15: to be in a Layou foundation and say, hey, here
Speaker 15: are the things we need to do.
Speaker 1: Start thinking about for next year.
Speaker 15: When everybody comes in bright eyed and bush retailed after
Speaker 15: the holidays and ready to get work done in one
Speaker 15: hundred and thirty sixth General Assembly.
Speaker 1: Has the issue of school funding generally come up in
Speaker 1: these conversations because in Ohio, apparently I keep going back
Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court case from apparently like twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: which said the funding mechanisms for schools is unconstitutional. And
Speaker 1: yet fast forward twenty years here we are when the
Speaker 1: funding mechanism hasn't changed any sort of property tax base.
Speaker 1: We understand, But does that conversation and funding mechanism ever
Speaker 1: come up when you're having the conversations about the idea
Speaker 1: of choice.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's one of the common areas, and especially with
Speaker 15: our friends who are fiscally conservative, and wanting to make
Speaker 15: sure Hey, look they're you know, they were elected to
Speaker 15: make sure that the state of Ohio uses its tax
Speaker 15: dollars in a fiscally responsible manner.
Speaker 1: That's that's an honorable position.
Speaker 3: To be in.
Speaker 15: The other concern, though, is in the local dollars and
Speaker 15: making sure that we're not starving our public government schools
Speaker 15: in our communities. Right, and so a lot of the
Speaker 15: discussion when we talk about, hey, we need this money
Speaker 15: for ed choice, or we need this money for backpack,
Speaker 15: build a fund these programs like universally essays, all we
Speaker 15: were ever talking about is the state share of that money.
Speaker 15: It would have no impact on any of the local
Speaker 15: dollars rays that go to the local schools. What we're
Speaker 15: talking about is that money that everybody pays in through
Speaker 15: sales tax, income tax, and otherwise the state brings together
Speaker 15: and then redistributes across the state to school districts. We
Speaker 15: think that money, right, Yeah, that money that comes from
Speaker 15: the state should follow the kids, so it stays in
Speaker 15: the education system and in fact is viewed as I say,
Speaker 15: at a frontline education dollars, it goes in that kid's backpack,
Speaker 15: it follows that student wherever they're getting their education in
Speaker 15: the state of Ohio. So we're not taking money out
Speaker 15: of education. We're just making that money a little more
Speaker 15: flexible to follow the student where that student.
Speaker 1: Can get the best education opportunity possible. Okay, Now, putting
Speaker 1: yourself in as difficult as it may be, Donald and
Speaker 1: Neil for Americans for prosperity, putting yourself in the shoes
Speaker 1: of someone who is against that concept. What are their
Speaker 1: primary arguments? Since you've already addressed the idea of starving
Speaker 1: local schools, that's not what you are talking about. So
Speaker 1: what arguments are they left with to oppose this concept?
Speaker 15: Well, the argument that many of our opponents will make are,
Speaker 15: we don't know what these kids are going to be taught.
Speaker 1: Do we know that they're getting as good of an education.
Speaker 15: Do we know that they're going to get as good
Speaker 15: of an education as the school down the road compared
Speaker 15: to the government school, the public school, but that you know,
Speaker 15: is also on the other side of town.
Speaker 1: And our argument is.
Speaker 15: The parents decide that right like. The reason this is
Speaker 15: in such demand is because for years we look at
Speaker 15: report card at a report card, both students report cards
Speaker 15: and school report cards, no matter how you slice or
Speaker 15: dice them. We're not meeting standards. We're falling behind. And
Speaker 15: that's not just an Ohio problem, it's an American product
Speaker 15: across the country.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 15: It's why it was an issue during the federal presidential
Speaker 15: election this year. Right, We've got to do better. And
Speaker 15: so the best way to ensure we think parents are
Speaker 15: the best accountability driver. Will put it that way, parents
Speaker 15: are the best acount of the drive. When they see
Speaker 15: their kids report card, when they see their kids struggling,
Speaker 15: when they see their kid having suicidal thoughts, when they
Speaker 15: see their kid dealing with substance abuse, they're.
Speaker 1: Going to move that kid from that environment.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 15: And what empowering families with choice does is gives the
Speaker 15: parent the ability to make that shift to put them
Speaker 15: in a school that's going to meet their needs. Every
Speaker 15: student's unique school choice empowers to make those choices. And again,
Speaker 15: can't say it enough. Parents are the best accountability measure,
Speaker 15: well question one page document.
Speaker 1: And it is going to do better than that. And
Speaker 1: again I always go back to I think most of
Speaker 1: society's problems may be just built upon the concept that
Speaker 1: the nuclear family has basically disappeared in large part and
Speaker 1: there aren't too caring and concerned parents at home who
Speaker 1: you know, putting attention towards what their children are learning
Speaker 1: or not, as the case may be, let alone where
Speaker 1: they might be at midnight on a Tuesday. But that
Speaker 1: is a broader societal problem. But I embrace what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Of course, I appreciate Americans for prosperity, for
Speaker 1: what they're doing in connection with the work on this.
Speaker 1: What can my listeners do to help get behind this effort?
Speaker 1: And I'm going to assume that most of my listeners
Speaker 1: share our thoughts on school choice.
Speaker 15: Yeah, so we're coming up on a really busy time
Speaker 15: of year. It's Ohio's budget season from January one through
Speaker 15: June thirtieth or next year. A lot of policy making
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Speaker 15: bringing a lot of folks to the Statehouse and setting
Speaker 15: up a lot of town halls and roundtables in legislators districts. So,
Speaker 15: whether you can come to Columbus or you need to
Speaker 15: stay local to southwest Ohio, we're gonna have opportunities.
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Speaker 1: So what an amazing thing that wash And in a
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Speaker 1: What again, Thanks? Everybody, need to listener to lunch. It
Speaker 1: was awesome, wonderful, wonderful time. It was great seeing everybody,
Speaker 1: and we had a lot of conversations because I've mentioned
Speaker 1: many times that Keto diet and I kind of want
Speaker 1: a little bit of modified Keto diet. I only bring
Speaker 1: it up now because I with RFK Junior, sort of
Speaker 1: making the America healthier again. The whole idea of bringing
Speaker 1: to our collective attention. It's kind of like what I
Speaker 1: was talking about John Houston about adoption. It doesn't get
Speaker 1: the marketing that it's deserved. You know, there's a huge
Speaker 1: amount of money bankrolling planned parenthoods. You hear about that
Speaker 1: all the time. Abortion, of course, now it's fully legal
Speaker 1: in Ohio, so there are alternatives, but sometimes the message
Speaker 1: is suppressed a little bit, either for lack of money
Speaker 1: lack of resources. But in the world of food, you
Speaker 1: know you can read articles and talk about health, and
Speaker 1: you know you'll learn about it in school a little bit,
Speaker 1: although the food pyramid has changed like nineteen times since
Speaker 1: I was in elementary school. But the idea of process
Speaker 1: foods and I'm looking forward to having more information brought
Speaker 1: out to the American public's attention about processed foods. And
Speaker 1: I saw an article yesterday on Epoch Times. They don't
Speaker 1: have to go into the details, but you know, the
Speaker 1: headline was ultra processed food consumption linked to higher muscle
Speaker 1: fat composition, regardless of calorie intake. So if you're eating
Speaker 1: natural foods other than those like ultra processed foods like
Speaker 1: chips and cookies and pre cooked frozen days as were
Speaker 1: all mentioned as illustrations of ultra processed foods, they're really
Speaker 1: bad for you. And being on the only reason I
Speaker 1: bring it up is because you know, I'm not paying
Speaker 1: that close attention to it. I did pretty much eat
Speaker 1: anything I wanted before one of this diet, and I
Speaker 1: was trying to do it in an effort to stave
Speaker 1: off my cancer, because there's a lot of research that's
Speaker 1: coming out now about starving cancer if you deprive it
Speaker 1: of sugars and can go a long way to helping.
Speaker 1: Like there's been some research studies published, research studies in
Speaker 1: legitimate you know, like Journal of American Medicine Types Reports,
Speaker 1: peer reviewed that you can reduce breast cancer tumors and
Speaker 1: things like that by reducing or completely eliminating your sugar intake.
Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of different protocols out there, and
Speaker 1: again I can't go into all the details on it,
Speaker 1: but watching my sugar intake alone, this diet do yourself
Speaker 1: a favor if you never pay attention to it. Start
Speaker 1: reading labels, start just looking at labels. Yes, the bread
Speaker 1: you eat will convert to sugar, so you know carbs
Speaker 1: are going to do that anyway. But look at the
Speaker 1: amount of processed sugar or corn syrup that goes into geez,
Speaker 1: almost everything.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: You know, a nikita die you can't even have ketchup
Speaker 1: because it's got a heapload of sugar in it. I
Speaker 1: know they make no sugar ketchups. Fine that see, there's
Speaker 1: an alternative to it, But you have to pay attention
Speaker 1: to what you're eating, So try doing that sometime. I
Speaker 1: think we'd all do ourselves a favor by reducing our
Speaker 1: sugar intake collectively. But you know, as much as I
Speaker 1: may disagree with OURFK Junior on a number of things,
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Speaker 1: also that you and I are exiling the planet into oblivion,
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Speaker 1: about healthier food options. You know, you're my listeners, you're
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Speaker 1: and then you're like, holy crap, there is a ton
Speaker 1: of sugar out there and we don't need it, and
Speaker 1: we do have a significant obesity problem in this country.
Speaker 1: So there, let me get it out of my system.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and let's talk about the night orson
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Speaker 1: It is a pleasure to have on. William Elliott Hayes
Speaker 1: grow the national bestselling author of ten novels fourteen narrative
Speaker 1: nonfiction titles. He was the Ernest Hemingway writer in residence.
Speaker 1: This is a cool thing. He got to actually write
Speaker 1: in the attic of Ernest Hemingway's birthplace. He's written articles
Speaker 1: for like every major news outlet, USA Today, Smithsonian Magazine,
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of other publications. He's been featured
Speaker 1: on NPR, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune.
Speaker 1: I could go on, but I want to talk about
Speaker 1: his new book Dead Air The Night orson Wells Terrified America.
Speaker 1: William hazel Grove. It is a pleasure heavy on the
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Speaker 3: Oh thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with this story. I've seen the movie. I've
Speaker 1: seen the original movie, I saw the remake of it.
Speaker 1: I've also seen the sort of documentary movie about the
Speaker 1: chaos that ensued as a consequence of hgu Wells airing
Speaker 1: this on air radio play War of the Worlds with
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty eight. I guess, as you point out October thirtieth,
Speaker 1: Halloween Eve, But I want you to set the stage
Speaker 1: for my listeners for an understanding of how this was
Speaker 1: such a widespread radio show. It was a play on
Speaker 1: the air. They had actors doing different parts, sound effects,
Speaker 1: all that live in studio at CBS Studio in New York.
Speaker 1: What was the nature of radio back then? Because right now,
Speaker 1: of course, anybody can get any program anywhere in the
Speaker 1: world with the Internet. But I was wondering was this
Speaker 1: a syndicated thing that it went across to America? I mean,
Speaker 1: was the power feed from CBS New York City's radio
Speaker 1: studio so big like our local station LW that it
Speaker 1: went on over multiple states? How did this program get out?
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, you know a great question. Actually they had
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty six affiliates at the time, went
Speaker 3: across the country. So you know, that's the first misnomer
Speaker 3: about this War of the worlds that people think, oh,
Speaker 3: it's just restricted to the East coast. That's just not true.
Speaker 3: It went right across the country and was picked up
Speaker 3: by all these stations. And you know, again, I when
Speaker 3: I wrote this book, I did by newspapers. I used
Speaker 3: the research of all these news verys and all these
Speaker 3: small towns. The panic just emanated out and so they
Speaker 3: were literally running for the hills in California, Missouri, you know,
Speaker 3: all the way down to the south, down in Mississippi.
Speaker 3: It was just you know, it traveled across the country.
Speaker 3: As he said, radio was a new medium at this
Speaker 3: time that you know, everybody had a station. Because what
Speaker 3: it happened was it's a dayton Land crisis with Hitler
Speaker 3: wanting to invade Czechoslovakia. It just occurred two weeks before.
Speaker 3: Said there was these breaking news bulletins going off all
Speaker 3: the time, and and Wells used that in his show.
Speaker 3: He used breaking news bulletins. He made it as realistic
Speaker 3: as possible, and he listened to it today even today.
Speaker 3: But so I had someone, so listen to it. You
Speaker 3: think it's actual news. Yeah, you know, you know Martians Lady.
Speaker 1: Now, in terms of HGUS at the time, I guess
Speaker 1: he was an unknown entity. Im minorities what hjewels and
Speaker 1: up accomplishment but accomplishing. But at this time was was
Speaker 1: he a newbie kind of guy that nobody ever heard of?
Speaker 3: Oh you mean Orton?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh, he had some fame, he had been he had
Speaker 3: produced these two plays. Uh, he only had about a
Speaker 3: million listeners. But on this night, because his show was
Speaker 3: a sustaining program, he didn't have a sponsor, a right
Speaker 3: sort of for it was for the good of the country, right,
Speaker 3: They had this thing then, and so the the you know,
Speaker 3: playing at the same time was to Charlie McCarthy hour,
Speaker 3: Edgarburg and Charlie McCarthy, which had twelve million listeners. Okay,
Speaker 3: so what happens during during the Charlie McCarthy hour, they
Speaker 3: go to Nelson Edia singer and guess what happens with
Speaker 3: What happens now everybody started surfing the dial and they
Speaker 3: ended up on War of the World in Progress. After
Speaker 3: the station you know, identification and everyone it's like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, you know, and growers. And in New Jersey,
Speaker 3: our Martians have landed and you know they're using poison
Speaker 3: gas and heat raising, killing everybody, and you know, so
Speaker 3: Wells got supercharged that night. Also, radios in Carns had
Speaker 3: just become a thing. You know, all these cars now
Speaker 3: had radios, and this was a very new phenomenon, you know,
Speaker 3: driving around with a car radio. So people in the
Speaker 3: cars for the first time, we're hearing this, and they
Speaker 3: started just driving like maniacs. The police didn't know what
Speaker 3: was going on. Everybody started speeding, getting accidents and going
Speaker 3: through red lights and you know, not stopping for anything.
Speaker 3: So it was a kind of perfect storm, you know,
Speaker 3: on this this October thirtieth, nineteen thirty eighth that this
Speaker 3: you know, broadcast took hold and was like a tsunami
Speaker 3: of terror across the country.
Speaker 1: Now before the terror started breaking out in the panic
Speaker 1: in the streets and blah blah blah, it's my understanding,
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Though, at some point Orson
Speaker 1: Wells was told that, dude, you've got to let the
Speaker 1: world know that this isn't real and that you are
Speaker 1: broadcasting a play. So he interrupted the show to and
Speaker 1: make that announcement. Is that part of my recollection? Correct?
Speaker 3: Actually what happened is Wells is doing the show. A
Speaker 3: guy named Davison Taylor, a CBS executive, starts getting all
Speaker 3: these calls saying where do we go? The martians are abating,
Speaker 3: where's can we do? And they realize whoa, this thing's
Speaker 3: out of control. He then leaves the control room and
Speaker 3: tries to get in the studio. John Houseman, Orson Wall's
Speaker 3: partner holds the door shut won't let him in because
Speaker 3: they know what they're doing. Right. So then the police
Speaker 3: arrive and they come into the control room. Well sees
Speaker 3: them and they try getting the studio and John Houston
Speaker 3: doesn't let them. Why because Wells wants to get to
Speaker 3: the eight thirty eight minute mark where who has to
Speaker 3: take a station break? So for thirty eight minutes after
Speaker 3: the initial intro, okay, there's no break, and by the way,
Speaker 3: we're the worlds. The first half is where ever everything happens.
Speaker 3: The second half of the snooze just Wells walking around saying,
Speaker 3: isn't this terrible to airthless concenrit But the first half
Speaker 3: is all the fireworks.
Speaker 4: Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Well Orson knew exactly what he was doing. You know,
Speaker 3: he was he asked, he was you know, he's that
Speaker 3: kind of guy who would ask you to look through
Speaker 3: his telescope and say do you see these stars? And
Speaker 3: then thumpy on the head and safety as see him. Now.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's that kind of you know.
Speaker 1: Now, did he okay? And so that's kind of the predicate.
Speaker 1: So he obviously was obstruction and obstructionist in and stopping
Speaker 1: it while it was going on real time? I get
Speaker 1: that part. But did he know? Do you think he knowe?
Speaker 1: Or is there any reports that he knew in advance
Speaker 1: that it was going to cause this type of reaction.
Speaker 3: I don't think he thought the explosion would be as
Speaker 3: big as it did. But Wells was determined. He had
Speaker 3: studied the Hindenburg recording when HINDEMBERG crash w L Chicago
Speaker 3: had an on the spot reporter who freaked out, and
Speaker 3: so well studied that and so in his the guy
Speaker 3: named Carl Reddick is on the spot reporter with the Martians.
Speaker 3: The Martians come out of their cylinder and they zapp
Speaker 3: him and kill him on the air. And my book's
Speaker 3: called you know, Dead Air and the reason for all
Speaker 3: that is because then Wells in the studio holds up
Speaker 3: his arms for everybody, everybody, musicians, the actors, everybody to
Speaker 3: not say a word. And as you know, dead air
Speaker 3: on the radio is just taboo. Well for six seconds
Speaker 3: he holds that silence, as says, after this reporter dies
Speaker 3: on the air, people freaked out. They thought, oh my god,
Speaker 3: we just heard this guy get Zapp.
Speaker 1: And he died. Oh right, it'd be like right in
Speaker 1: the middle, like you mentioned the Henburg all the humanity,
Speaker 1: the humanity and then gone.
Speaker 3: Exactly he made he made radio part of the play.
Speaker 3: He took he wrote the third wall. We're used to
Speaker 3: that now, you know, you see House of Cards, all
Speaker 3: sudden Kevin Space will turn and talk to the camera.
Speaker 3: That's what we was did with this. Suddenly radio was
Speaker 3: part of the drama.
Speaker 1: Well, in terms of the reaction, okay, we know this
Speaker 1: set up. Now, we know he knew at some point
Speaker 1: that people were going crazy thinking this was true. I
Speaker 1: note that the military actually also got involved. We had
Speaker 1: actual our armed forces reacted on some level to this,
Speaker 1: believing it to be true as well.
Speaker 3: Absolutely what happened was they had to put out a
Speaker 3: release telling the armed forces this isn't this isn't real,
Speaker 3: This doesn't happening. And because people kept saying, I heard
Speaker 3: the President says, well Orson had this actor imitate the
Speaker 3: Interior secretary the Interior and he said.
Speaker 2: You know what, you know what to do.
Speaker 3: This guy did a dead on a Fdr. Frankelin Dollan
Speaker 3: and Roosevelt with all the speech tags and you listen
Speaker 3: to this now and you're like, oh, that's Roosevelt. So
Speaker 3: people are like, I heard the President say this, the
Speaker 3: Martians have incinerated our army, you know, it was own compression.
Speaker 3: Suddenly we're you know, eight thousand men got killed, and
Speaker 3: then we're with a bomber pilot who's died by me
Speaker 3: on the Martians. I mean it's almost a minute. So
Speaker 3: when people panicked, they lost their sense of time because
Speaker 3: later people said, well, how can anybody believe that all
Speaker 3: that could happen? But you know, people weren't thinking, and
Speaker 3: Wells was brilliant because here's the thing you want to know.
Speaker 3: This is a broadcast, and a broadcast it starts with
Speaker 3: dinner music at a hotel in New York. Then they
Speaker 3: cut from that to we've got breaking news. Something's crashed
Speaker 3: and Grover's in New Jersey, and then back to the
Speaker 3: dinner music, then back to the new you know, New Jersey.
Speaker 3: We've got breaking news. The Martians are out and the
Speaker 3: shooting people of the heat rate. So people, once you
Speaker 3: bought into the music, you thought, okay, this is real,
Speaker 3: and then okay, this is real. So you know you
Speaker 3: were in the tunnel, and then it.
Speaker 2: Was off to the races.
Speaker 1: Oh my word, and it's and you know, my my brain,
Speaker 1: I logical, reasonable brain. That again, I'm surrounded by like
Speaker 1: nine thousand different news resources. I never believe anything when
Speaker 1: I first read it. I want to go out in
Speaker 1: the world and look around to see if there's any
Speaker 1: credibility associated with whatever random person says something. But you
Speaker 1: mentioned the it's just the infancy of radio. Even car
Speaker 1: radios are new. What about the idea of just changing
Speaker 1: the station to see if anybody else is reporting about
Speaker 1: the world coming to an end and if you don't
Speaker 1: hear it elsewhere, doesn't that sort of reduce the credibility
Speaker 1: of what's going on in CBS at that moment?
Speaker 3: Well, you know this happened, people started surfing down. But
Speaker 3: if you've ever been in a truly panic situation. You
Speaker 3: start doing strange things. Little things become very hard to do.
Speaker 3: I put in the key in your car, start in
Speaker 3: your car.
Speaker 2: Well people did.
Speaker 3: They started to surf it down. Radio reception was iffy,
Speaker 3: especially in cars.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So there's a general with his wife in the Redwood
Speaker 3: forest in California. They hear the broadcasts, They try and
Speaker 3: get anication. They can't pick anything up. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: the markets have knocked everybody up there. They run out
Speaker 3: of gas in the woods. They sit there and wait
Speaker 3: to get incinerated by the Martians. I mean, so this
Speaker 3: happened people, because I just got named Cantrell, who did
Speaker 3: a big report on this too, you know, immediately after
Speaker 3: it happened. He was a Yale professor and he interviewed
Speaker 3: all these people and that was one of the questions,
Speaker 3: Well then you go on the down and said, yeah,
Speaker 3: we did, but we you know, we couldn't find anything
Speaker 3: else going on, or you know, some people said they
Speaker 3: did find other people reporting on also too. Terror was
Speaker 3: spread by the phone. People kind of phone said, you know,
Speaker 3: Aunt Martha, you know the world's ending. The Martians have come.
Speaker 3: And then so they said the footspoorts and Manhattan, which
Speaker 3: are half block long just lit up, just totally lit up.
Speaker 3: So it was being disseminated to other people who never
Speaker 3: heard the broadcast. So it takes on that, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that our fact, and everybody starts running, people running the
Speaker 3: theater saying it's the end of the world. They're running
Speaker 3: the churches, ants the end of the world. People are
Speaker 3: confessing to affairs to their lives that you know, I
Speaker 3: got to tell you, you know the broadcast, Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, how do you laugh about it now? But
Speaker 1: I can only imagine the panic and the terror? Well
Speaker 1: was there any actual death? It seemed to recall the
Speaker 1: movie about the Panic. There was a scene where there
Speaker 1: was a father who was getting ready to shoot his
Speaker 1: children before the Martians were able to get him, sort
Speaker 1: of like to you know, stop the tragedy with a tragedy.
Speaker 1: Did anybody actually die as a consequence of this broadcast?
Speaker 3: Okay? It was a very famous story of a man
Speaker 3: commit him and his wife is sitting at the kitchen
Speaker 3: table with a vial of arsenic you know, who's going
Speaker 3: to kill herself And he said, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: She said, I'd rather go this way than by the Martians.
Speaker 3: But as far as actual death. Two years after this,
Speaker 3: Arsenalos is on a barn tour. He goes into hotel
Speaker 3: cancers of another general. A man attacks him viciously. They
Speaker 3: pulled him off, and the man's screen time said, I flow,
Speaker 3: I'd kill you if I ever saw you. They do
Speaker 3: an investigation and find out his wife did commit suicide
Speaker 3: on the night of the broadcast.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, William Hazel grow It has
Speaker 1: been a real pleasure talking with you about this amazing
Speaker 1: story here on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Well,
Speaker 1: your book is linked on my blog page. My listener's
Speaker 1: going to go to fifty five KRC dot com to
Speaker 1: get a copy of Dead Air the Night that orson
Speaker 1: Wells Terrified America. William, Great job man. I just liked
Speaker 1: the thrilling conversation. And thanks for writing the book. It's
Speaker 1: going to be a real treat to read.
Speaker 3: Oh great, thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: A twenty eight on a Friday eve.
Speaker 2: Woo.
Speaker 1: Always enjoy this time because a good friend iHeartMedia aviation
Speaker 1: expert ja I Love joins the program. Talk about a
Speaker 1: whole slew of things. Man, we got a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about this morning. Jay, welcome back to the program,
Speaker 1: and I hope you are in a festive holiday spirit
Speaker 1: this time of year.
Speaker 11: I'm in kind of a feisty mood, so yeah, I'm
Speaker 11: more than I am more than ready.
Speaker 16: For our time. My challenge with you, my friend.
Speaker 11: Is just to bring my a game to keep up
Speaker 11: with you, because you know, I do fifteen hundred of
Speaker 11: these a year, and a lot of times the people
Speaker 11: I'm talking to around the country, it's.
Speaker 16: They asked the question, they wait for their response.
Speaker 11: It's so engaging when you and I talk, and it's
Speaker 11: hard to it's it's hard and challenging sometimes to keep
Speaker 11: up with you. And I love it because rarely do
Speaker 11: I get that.
Speaker 1: So well, You're great at it, man, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: so enthusia about this segment. If you were some monotone
Speaker 1: sort of guy reading the news kind of stuff, That's
Speaker 1: why I enjoy our discussions. You don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about boundaries or limits and go anywhere you hell the
Speaker 1: hell you want, you know, and you.
Speaker 11: Have a sense of humor, which is good. I love
Speaker 11: working with Jim Scott for ten years. And one year
Speaker 11: he asked me on the air, Jay Man, how do you.
Speaker 1: Know all this?
Speaker 16: I said, Jim, what, I don't know?
Speaker 11: I make up And there's this pause of like five
Speaker 11: seconds and I said, Jim, I'm kidding, so you know,
Speaker 11: so you and I can laugh, and good lord, I've
Speaker 11: missed Jim so much.
Speaker 16: But it's just, you know, I love our time together Brian,
Speaker 16: and I hope it shows.
Speaker 1: It does and I love it. I love it as much.
Speaker 1: I hope it shows to you too. So let us
Speaker 1: discuss actually a new addition to the already lengthy list
Speaker 1: of things today. I'm not sure if we'll get it
Speaker 1: all in. But the airlines were in front of the
Speaker 1: Senate yesterday.
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 11: We had the Senate grilling five airline executives over their
Speaker 11: practices and their airline fees and their seat fees. And
Speaker 11: when all this was set up, I'm thinking, Okay, come on, guys,
Speaker 11: this is posturing. All you're doing is these are photo ops.
Speaker 11: Because if anybody talks about how glorious it is to fly,
Speaker 11: how wonderful it is to fly, they're obviously lying because
Speaker 11: you and I've talked about you don't enjoy travel, you
Speaker 11: endure it. And the Senate panel was up there talking
Speaker 11: to these airline executives and of course they were grilling
Speaker 11: them over the seat fees and things that were their
Speaker 11: costs of business and how their business operations were. And
Speaker 11: I really think the government has z row zero zero
Speaker 11: role in that. But what I did find interesting was
Speaker 11: when they were talking about like Frontier and Spirit. Oh
Speaker 11: I love this exchange where they said, why are you
Speaker 11: incentivizing your gate agents to find bags that are too
Speaker 11: big so they have to be charged a carry on fee?
Speaker 11: Because Spirit and Frontier have paid out in incentives.
Speaker 16: Now, remember these.
Speaker 11: Are people that don't make a lot of money working
Speaker 11: for the airlines, right, twenty six million dollars in like
Speaker 11: two years, wow, because they give them like ten bucks
Speaker 11: a bag if you find something that's too big, We'll
Speaker 11: give you ten bucks of the thirty, forty fifty whatever
Speaker 11: that ends up being charged. So they're actually out there
Speaker 11: out they're looking for bags they're too big.
Speaker 1: Do you find you Do you have any problem with
Speaker 1: them doing that?
Speaker 3: Do you.
Speaker 11: As far as incentives?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not right.
Speaker 1: Because they're forcing the rules that are on the books anyway,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to have a book a bag that's
Speaker 1: beyond X number of size. The employees are helping the
Speaker 1: company meet its objectives. They're helping them earn the money
Speaker 1: that they're entitled to because of the rules that you
Speaker 1: agree to when you agree to fly on that airline.
Speaker 1: So bully for them.
Speaker 11: Well, you know the thing that I just it amaze
Speaker 11: me watching the United CEO the frontier that not a
Speaker 11: single one of them and all that I reviewed, and
Speaker 11: I didn't see every single second, but none of them said, Look,
Speaker 11: our number one objective is to push that airplane back
Speaker 11: on time period. That's where our money is made. And
Speaker 11: if we have a bag that's too big, if we
Speaker 11: miss something, we jeopardize that flight leaving on time. So therefore,
Speaker 11: we're going to incentivize our agents to get out there
Speaker 11: and look for things that could potentially delay our flight.
Speaker 11: That's where the focus should have been. But they were
Speaker 11: trying to play along, skip along, whatever. And I'm just thinking, guys,
Speaker 11: you just go that they'd gone straight to the matter,
Speaker 11: because I would have told every one of the senators, Look,
Speaker 11: you want your flight to be on time, right, so
Speaker 11: if we do everything within our power to do so,
Speaker 11: you're going to be happy, right. And I would have
Speaker 11: shoved it right back in their face and say, this
Speaker 11: is how we accomplish that. Because passengers bring bags that
Speaker 11: are too big. We've got to do this passengers. All
Speaker 11: of the things that could have been addressed, But the
Speaker 11: bottom line is the Trump administration, if it's anything like
Speaker 11: Round one, they're going to back off. They're going to
Speaker 11: let the airlines do whatever they want to do. So
Speaker 11: I think a lot of this stuff that's been being
Speaker 11: pushed right now is that is not going to continue.
Speaker 11: And that's sad because I've told you I the Bideen administration,
Speaker 11: it can't the end of it cannot get here too
Speaker 11: soon today. But I do appreciate the fact that they
Speaker 11: were hard on the airlines. They held them accountable, they
Speaker 11: made sure that they did everything they could to help
Speaker 11: push them towards better customer service, and.
Speaker 16: I will forever be thankful for that. And it's just
Speaker 16: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I see so much of this as just the typical
Speaker 11: political you know, the games they play, so they've got
Speaker 11: sound bites for their commercials and all the other crap
Speaker 11: that goes on. And it's sad to me thinking that
Speaker 11: the airlines are gonna return to a time when you know.
Speaker 11: But look, you and I both agree.
Speaker 16: Bright.
Speaker 11: I think I speak for you that airlines they can
Speaker 11: do business any way they want and if people don't
Speaker 11: like it, guess what. They're gonna fly another carrier. The
Speaker 11: free market will determine what takes place, and please get
Speaker 11: out of our face.
Speaker 1: Amen. And I guess I'm under the I think safe presumption. Again,
Speaker 1: you're the expert on this, and if you don't know
Speaker 1: the answer, just make it up.
Speaker 16: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I'm under the impression that most people follow the rules.
Speaker 1: So it's the guys who refuse to follow the rules
Speaker 1: that show up with an oversized bag. Obviously it's not
Speaker 1: gonna fit in the overhead bind it's not gonna fit
Speaker 1: underneath under the seat in front of you. So they're
Speaker 1: gonna stop. They're gonna have to tag it. They're gonna
Speaker 1: put you know, everybody in standing in line trying to
Speaker 1: get onto the airplane. This is the delay you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Those people are fewer then the people who mind the rules.
Speaker 1: So this is like trying to create a villain in
Speaker 1: the airlines for providing this incentive, where there is They're
Speaker 1: not a villain. There is the only group of constituents
Speaker 1: out there that would benefit from this attack and maybe
Speaker 1: getting rid of this incentive are people who want to
Speaker 1: carry on oversize bags.
Speaker 11: And we can call those the minority, right, so we
Speaker 11: could call it like the EPA checks we used to
Speaker 11: have here in the city of While where you had
Speaker 11: to prove and like only three percent of the cars
Speaker 11: failed or whatever. Okay, wait a minute, why are we
Speaker 11: continuing to do this? And that's exactly the point. But
Speaker 11: you know a lot of people push back on airlines
Speaker 11: and I've told you I'm not ever encouraging people to
Speaker 11: do this. But when you show up at the gate
Speaker 11: instead of paying to check your bag at the counter,
Speaker 11: a lot of people drag that bag to the gate.
Speaker 11: And when the airline says we're super full today, if
Speaker 11: anybody would be kind enough to let us check their bag.
Speaker 11: We'll do it for free. Okay, take my four bags
Speaker 11: and then boom. You didn't have to pay a penny
Speaker 11: in the check bag fees. Now, I'm not telling people
Speaker 11: to do that. They do that all the time, and
Speaker 11: you know, if it saves them money, I guess they
Speaker 11: figure it's an okay thing to do.
Speaker 1: Fair Enough, we got more topics talk about with I
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Speaker 1: You ever been in the cockpit before? Jay Raytliff has
Speaker 1: It's a thirty nine on a Friday Eve. I heard
Speaker 1: media aviation next for Jay rattlerf all right. So we
Speaker 1: were talking in advance of the Thanksgiving holiday how busy
Speaker 1: it was going to be, and so how did it
Speaker 1: turn out in terms of airline travel and travel generally speaking?
Speaker 1: Was it as bad as everybody was talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, it was.
Speaker 11: I always look at the number of people flying and
Speaker 11: that is indicative many times of the challenges or the
Speaker 11: success we had. Typically, the Sunday after Thanksgiving is the
Speaker 11: busiest travel day of the year and we get every
Speaker 11: day from the TSA the number of screen passengers.
Speaker 16: That they had.
Speaker 11: And actually on the Sunday after Thanksgiving, we did see
Speaker 11: a record number of travelers. It was over three million
Speaker 11: people that we had traveling. It was a record for
Speaker 11: the year. That was the most that we had. But
Speaker 11: the second busiest day is typically and always the Wednesday
Speaker 11: before Thanksgiving. So when you go back and look at
Speaker 11: the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, Brant that number was lower than
Speaker 11: what we expected. In fact, it was probably number fifteen
Speaker 11: or sixteen ranking wise in the quarter alone had nowhere
Speaker 11: near a record number of any kind, and a lot
Speaker 11: of that had to do with the weather and the
Speaker 11: number of delayed and canceled flights. So as the week progressed,
Speaker 11: we were fighting weather delays that caused a lot of problems.
Speaker 11: Delayed a lot of people, had people traveling on different days,
Speaker 11: canceling their reservations, all kinds of things. So even though
Speaker 11: we ended the Thanksgiving holiday week on a record as expected,
Speaker 11: the Sunday after Thanksgiving, as we tend to do.
Speaker 16: Every year.
Speaker 11: The other days that we had of the week, we're
Speaker 11: a little bit subdued, and that's because we were fighting
Speaker 11: some weather issues and fortunately it improved. Is that weekend
Speaker 11: God here because we needed that. But some people it
Speaker 11: was Monday or Tuesday before they could get home because
Speaker 11: of some of the flights had been canceled, so it
Speaker 11: was a challenge. Now airlines made money, and they made
Speaker 11: quite a bit of it because this is their super
Speaker 11: Bowl week, the busiest travel week of the year, and
Speaker 11: they can charge higher fares, and it ticks us off
Speaker 11: when they do, but there's nothing we can do about
Speaker 11: it other than after the first of the year. A
Speaker 11: lot of people are looking at making next year's reservations.
Speaker 16: Buy them.
Speaker 11: If you know you're going to be flying, grab the
Speaker 11: trip cancelation insurance, lock in those super low fares, and
Speaker 11: then you're guarded against any future rating creation. That's what
Speaker 11: the savvy travelers do that every year that they fly,
Speaker 11: they say, look, I know what I'm flying. I'm going
Speaker 11: to buy them as far in advance as i can. Yes,
Speaker 11: I'll get nine million flight schedule changes once they make
Speaker 11: my reservation, But who cares. I've locked in a lower
Speaker 11: fare and if it's the two entities, I want to
Speaker 11: pay the less two. I've told you, Brian, it's airlines
Speaker 11: in the irs. So if I can pay early to
Speaker 11: pay the airlines less, you better believe it. I'm going
Speaker 11: to do that every single chance I.
Speaker 1: Get, every chance you get. All right, Well, you always
Speaker 1: emphasize how safe airline travel is. I mean, notwithstanding the
Speaker 1: fact that Boeing has doors blowing off the aircraft and
Speaker 1: crazy stuff happens, but overall it is a very safe
Speaker 1: means of travel. You know, compared to automobiles and pretty
Speaker 1: much any other form, you're probably less likely to get
Speaker 1: killed in an airline crash. So apparently somebody added up
Speaker 1: all the passenger miles flown since the last crash. What
Speaker 1: is the total on that one, Jay.
Speaker 16: Yeah, this goes back.
Speaker 11: Got a fifty seven hundred and some days. The last
Speaker 11: airline crash we had was the Colgan Air crash in
Speaker 11: Buffalo killed fifty people February twelve, two thousand and nine.
Speaker 11: So someone who obviously and clearly had way too much
Speaker 11: time on their hands did add up all the number.
Speaker 16: Of passengers who've.
Speaker 11: Flown since then and the miles they've flown going back
Speaker 11: to that crash comes out to thirteen point three trillion miles.
Speaker 11: In other words, two light years if you know what
Speaker 11: that means. And of course I don't know what a
Speaker 11: light year is, but here's what I do understand. It's
Speaker 11: the same number of miles that would be accumulated if
Speaker 11: you and I again, this is the number of miles
Speaker 11: flown safely since the last aviation crash here in the
Speaker 11: United States. You and I could go to the moon
Speaker 11: and back twenty eight million times.
Speaker 16: That's how big of a number it is.
Speaker 11: So when when I say you're in a lot more
Speaker 11: danger getting to the airport then you're going to be
Speaker 11: getting on a plane, it's because, as I've said so
Speaker 11: many times before, and we've talked about this for years,
Speaker 11: we're enjoying, thank god, the safest air ever of commercial
Speaker 11: jet travel. And that's because we have better technology. You
Speaker 11: have better training, The pilots have more at their disposal
Speaker 11: than ever in history. We've got mechanics, air traffic controllers.
Speaker 11: Everybody's doing their job on the ground in the skies.
Speaker 11: And you know, the only danger is if we start
Speaker 11: to become a little complacent, and that's where the Boeing
Speaker 11: conversation begins and.
Speaker 16: I have not had enough coffee for that one.
Speaker 11: But amazing when you look at just how safe aviation is.
Speaker 11: And Brian, I remember when I got started in the eighties,
Speaker 11: we had we had them every year and the question
Speaker 11: was how many are we going to have this year?
Speaker 11: We knew we were gonna have accidents, we knew they're
Speaker 11: going to be fatalities, and this is back in eighty
Speaker 11: one eighty two, and it was a matter of how
Speaker 11: many are we gonna have this year? It was it
Speaker 11: was never a even though we wanted it a foregone conclusion,
Speaker 11: you know, could we have fewer or maybe none this year?
Speaker 11: But every when you look back at the history of aviation,
Speaker 11: sadly it's a reality that seemed to always creep up.
Speaker 11: A lot of it had to do with pilot there.
Speaker 11: And thank god for the NTSB, the National Transportation Safety Board,
Speaker 11: are the all stars because every single accident or near accident,
Speaker 11: they would try to glean from that the mistake or
Speaker 11: mistakes were made, enhancements that could be made, and they
Speaker 11: would pass those on as recommendations to the Federal Aviation Administration,
Speaker 11: saying here's our suggestions, twenty three ways where you can
Speaker 11: make aviation safer. Now, my arivation is the FA might
Speaker 11: take one or two of those only implement them into
Speaker 11: new changes. But Brian, from every single accident or near accident,
Speaker 11: we've made aviation safer. When we had the horrific crash
Speaker 11: of Air Canada back here in the eighties of at CBGYE,
Speaker 11: the NTSB came up, I think with twenty six different
Speaker 11: recommendations on how to make aviation safer. Many of those
Speaker 11: were implemented after that crash and the lives that were lost,
Speaker 11: and you're always wanting to learn from the crash so
Speaker 11: that any lives lost, we can honor the memory of
Speaker 11: those that we did lose by making aviation safer. And
Speaker 11: that's what they've done, year after year after year, and
Speaker 11: thirteen point three trillion miles. That's alone a lot more
Speaker 11: than my little brain. And I deal with numbers all
Speaker 11: the time, build numbers that big.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, But like time I
Speaker 1: mentioned you know a trillion dollars in debt or a
Speaker 1: billion dollars spent, I always try to express it in
Speaker 1: terms of thousands of millions, so you know you got
Speaker 1: a billion, it's a thousand stacks of a million. A
Speaker 1: trillion is a thousand stacks of a billion. It tends
Speaker 1: to put things in perspective. So I appreciate your going
Speaker 1: to the moon and back parallel on that figure. Let's pause.
Speaker 16: It helps us.
Speaker 11: Well, it's like the national debt right now, Yes, exactly
Speaker 11: is thirty six trillion. And it's such a big number.
Speaker 11: People don't understand it. But if you sat there and
Speaker 11: went one, two, three, four in every second had a number,
Speaker 11: it would take you a million years to get to
Speaker 11: thirty six trillion. Yes, that's how big that number is.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna get your blood pressure.
Speaker 16: Yes, just well, yeah, pushing all my button and.
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna stay I see on behalf of
Speaker 1: the Spirit Airline employees. I think I understand why they
Speaker 1: are as you described, furious. We'll bring Jay back for
Speaker 1: a couple more topics. Hang on, it's eight forty six,
Speaker 1: i'f be right back fifty five the talk station the
Speaker 1: half hour with that Jay Rattliff. I forced them to
Speaker 1: stay on for the whole time. Just these topics are
Speaker 1: great Spirit aeroloids. I think their employees are legitimately and
Speaker 1: the word you chose furious explain to my listeners what
Speaker 1: justifies their anger.
Speaker 11: Well, you talk about how Spirit Airlines, which has gone
Speaker 11: into Chapter eleven bankruptcy. But before they they made that
Speaker 11: leap Brian, they started laying off a lot of other pilots,
Speaker 11: some ground personnel. They were selling off their airplanes. They
Speaker 11: were obviously in a lot of trouble. They tried they
Speaker 11: were going to merge with Frontier, backed off of that,
Speaker 11: tried to merge with Jet Blue, was denied. They went
Speaker 11: back to Frontier. Frontier said no, we're not gonna merge
Speaker 11: with you. So they're trying to make it on their own.
Speaker 11: So they're selling off all of this, laying off employees.
Speaker 11: And then it's found out after the paperwork comes out
Speaker 11: on the Chapter eleven bankruptcy filings, because it's all right
Speaker 11: there that just before the airline filed for Chapter eleven bankruptcy,
Speaker 11: they paid up five point three million dollars in retention
Speaker 11: awards to five of their upper executives of the airline.
Speaker 16: Now, imagine being laid.
Speaker 11: Off, trying to figure out what you're gonna do with
Speaker 11: your family for Christmas, and finding out that one of
Speaker 11: the people used to work for was part of a
Speaker 11: five point three million dollar bonus that was awarded before
Speaker 11: the airline filed Chapter eleven bankruptcy. Now, Brian, all the
Speaker 11: years I was in the industry, especially at Northwest Airlines,
Speaker 11: I was in management, used to butt heads daily with
Speaker 11: my union friends, and I was never considered a union
Speaker 11: kind of guy ever. But I tell you, when I
Speaker 11: see this kind of stuff where executives get this kind
Speaker 11: of money, when they are the ones responsible for the
Speaker 11: airline being driven into Chapter eleven bankruptcy, it makes me
Speaker 11: want to lose my mind because I'm thinking, but that's
Speaker 11: corporate America, and that's one of the reasons I couldn't
Speaker 11: wait to get away from it all those years ago,
Speaker 11: and it still.
Speaker 1: Bugs me to this day, I imagine so well, anyhow,
Speaker 1: I'm still sorry for them. Not the airline executive is
Speaker 1: naturally Frontier taking an upgrade move here. They're going to
Speaker 1: provide premium first class seats.
Speaker 11: Now, yep, I love Frontier. Remember they're the carrier that
Speaker 11: came here first, bringing their one flight to day from
Speaker 11: Dayton to Denver down to Cincinnati. When people said, you're crazy,
Speaker 11: that's where low cost carriers go to die. You'll never
Speaker 11: make it. Frontier flourished. Here comes Allegiant, Southwest moves our
Speaker 11: operation from Dayton. I love Frontier, and what they've said is, look,
Speaker 11: some of our customers are saying they'd like premium seats.
Speaker 11: So what they're going to do is they're on their
Speaker 11: low cost carrier Airbus Aircraft. The first two roads are
Speaker 11: going to be first class. And what they're saying is
Speaker 11: we're hearing what our passengers want. But they're also following
Speaker 11: the lead up. Remember Southwest Airlines is going to go
Speaker 11: to assigned seats and have some premium or coach plus seats.
Speaker 11: You've got other low cost carriers looking at this.
Speaker 16: Now.
Speaker 11: Frontier says, look, our numbers say, if we give our
Speaker 11: travelers first class, we're gonna have ational revenue in twenty
Speaker 11: twenty six to two hundred and fifty million dollars. They
Speaker 11: think in twenty twenty eight that additional revenue because of
Speaker 11: those premium seats that are going to be a little
Speaker 11: bit more expensive than the typical Frontier seat, it's going
Speaker 11: to be five hundred million dollars in revenue in twenty
Speaker 11: twenty eight. So they're going to be giving passengers what
Speaker 11: they're asking for. They're going to make more money as
Speaker 11: a result, and to fly a low cost carrier with
Speaker 11: a first class option. I love that because what you're
Speaker 11: doing is you're giving the passenger more options. You don't
Speaker 11: have to sit there. But like every other carrier, they're saying,
Speaker 11: we can really make some good money here by making
Speaker 11: this option available for passengers. And I tell you it's
Speaker 11: a move that from the low cost carrier side, airlines
Speaker 11: are shifting in that direction. Spirit Airlines was also a
Speaker 11: carrier that's decided to do that, which is a long
Speaker 11: overdue that's going to help them type of move. I
Speaker 11: wish they had done it years before.
Speaker 1: Well, it takes it takes a little bit of that
Speaker 1: budget stereotype off of the airline by having that option.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you want you want to stretch
Speaker 1: your leg out and still get a discount flight, it
Speaker 1: sounds like a great idea to me.
Speaker 16: All Right, you're gonna be.
Speaker 11: On the premium if youre's gonna be up front. You
Speaker 11: know a lot of people take take the bulkhead rows
Speaker 11: like we do on those carriers. Sure, so you've got
Speaker 11: that extra leg room, but to have a slightly bigger seat,
Speaker 11: oh my gosh, yeah, sign me up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it, especially given the spillover effects
Speaker 1: some flyers have into your seat. Leave it at that,
Speaker 1: And as next to.
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Speaker 1: See that you married out of your element, you got
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Speaker 16: I'm so far I'm married so far above my I
Speaker 16: know you're exactly right.
Speaker 1: I know you and I both acknowledge that on a
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Speaker 1: better of delays. What's going on out there in the
Speaker 1: world of travel today, Jay, A lot of.
Speaker 11: Wind and weather towards the northeast, Washington, d C. New York,
Speaker 11: especially Boston's getting pounded right now. We're sending quite a
Speaker 11: few delays up there that sadly, are going to last throughout.
Speaker 16: The rest of the day.
Speaker 11: Anything south, anything west, very good shape. I don't think
Speaker 11: you're going to see much as far as any other
Speaker 11: than minor morning the icing delays, but those aren't too much.
Speaker 11: But the real headaches, obviously, Brian today are.
Speaker 1: Going to be the Northeast, as always, wonderful having you
Speaker 1: on the fifty five Cascity Morning Show Jay Ratliffe, and
Speaker 1: looking forward to next Thursday and another enjoyable conversation. Best
Speaker 1: of health and love you and your better half. Have
Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend, my friend.
Speaker 16: You too, my friend.
Speaker 1: Thank you a fifty five fifty five KR City Talk
Speaker 1: station wonderful conversation with tennant governor