Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of
geek Verse podcast. I am one of your hosts, the
night Dog Taylor Field, and I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By I'm really curious to hear where his name's coming from,
Ian marcastor Dilmus.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we are here because it is another news
episode six and forty eight. I believe I put six
hundred and forty seven in the title, but that's kind
of nice. Uh. Yes, we got a whole bunch of
news to bestow upon you find, folks, so it'll be
a good time tonight. Before we get into that, a
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for all that you do. Uh so, what do we
got cooking? Right now. That is outside of this newscast.
We got Dexter original Sin reviews that skipped last week.
It's coming back this week tomorrow. Nice. What else do
we got? We finished Creature Commandos, we did What If
back in December. Skeleton Crew is finished as well. What
else is coded over?
Speaker 2: In the world of side Quest. I was joined by
Jessica this week her return after she said the last
cash she did was Lord of the Rings retrospective. So
I don't know if that is true, but that was
a long time ago. It feels like so had her
back on there. That was fun and next week she
should be a good one as well, which had that
Xbox conference thing today, So check out side Quest of course.
Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, Yeah, Lord of the Rings. That was definitely
a long time ago. I thought she snuck.
Speaker 2: Because I was prior to Rings of Power season one.
I think she's wrong. I feel like she has been
on since then, but I can't. I know she's been
on side Quest a couple of times. I don't know
if that would have been more recent, but either way
it has. It was definitely a return.
Speaker 1: It definitely is. Yes, it was a good episode. I
enjoyed listening to that. What else is there? I did
a Wolfman review as well, so there's that on the feeds.
And then what else do we got coming up? I
guess the next movie review let's lined up will probably
be Captain in America, Bravey World. You got your tickets? Nice? Nice?
I don't know I Kirklann has gotten his tickets yet,
off to bug him about it. Ah. I think that's
everything kicking. We got Spider Man that's gonna be starting
up real soon. It looks like they're dropping those episodes
in little batches, which will be kind of nice, but
I think that knocks everything off. Dalton in the chat,
what's February first? You know what I just found out today.
I'll leave that surprise for you to figure out. It's
as convoluted as you think. I am too, God damn it.
Speaker 2: I have the mental wherewithal for all these games, but
we don't need to get into that.
Speaker 1: No, So what have we been watching? What have you
been watching? Dylan? What's the latest?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Can you actually go first? Because I based on
your name, I'm curious if that's what you're alluding to,
but I want you to go first.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, So I mean, aside from Wolfman doing that.
Go check out that review. I watched the movie night Bitch.
Speaker 2: Okay, me too. I was wondering. We did watch it
over the weekend.
Speaker 1: No kidding, okay. I thought it would be a fun
movie to put on for me and Madison to watch,
because thought, well, Madison, you know, you've done the whole
stay at home thing, and it's like, maybe you can
relate in some weird, distorted sort of way to some
of the themes, not the entire main theme. But we
put it on and she found it very distasteful. She
thought some stuff was you know, okay, yeah, yeah, that's
funny and whatnot. But the most part it was like no, no, no,
she was not jabbing with it, and she gave up
on them. I did not.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was okay. I'm curious what you
like the parental angle of it. Anyone hasn't seen it,
I guess minor spoilers, but a big part of it
is that the main character kind of regrets or hates
that she had a kid, and you know, think it
kind of goes in different places, but it is like
pretty intense on that side of things. So how did
you feel about that? Liked did it rub me the
wrong way? Or was it was that like funny as
like a parent, but like, oh yeah, I can kind
of relate, even though I obviously love my child and
don't regret it.
Speaker 1: I find some parts to be a little bit humorous,
but the other stuff is more or less than in
a position where I think, you know, I think there's
a lot of people that are parents that you know,
I'm not going to say they hate their kids, but
I think they hate that they've become parents. They don't
like where their life is. They're unhappy, and I think that, well,
this movie can try and play a comedic twist off
of that. I think that that's actually a very real
thing in society.
Speaker 2: But for me, angle I remembered from the trailers either
I just I thought it'd be more like Wolfman or
something where it's more about transformations. I don't know if
I expected to be a thriller horror. I think I
kind of forgot, or maybe I just saw one trailer.
But it's funny. I was I was wondering, like, should
I recommend this to my sister, who's, you know, a
parent of two kids four and two? And it's like,
I don't if Madison didn't like it, I'm gonna say
that for the same reasons my sister would like. Even
though there is some good moments in there, I think
it would maybe rubber the wrong way a bit too,
especially because you know my niece and Ifi, they're wild.
They're wild, so I feel like some elements of like
the kid running around on this throwing paint everywhere, making
a mess. Uh yeah, I even though I'm not a parent,
I thought it was really interesting in that angle of
it was not what I was expecting at all. I
thought it was. I thought it was quite good. I
enjoyed it. I don't know if it like six the
Landing in a huge way, but it was I think
I had like either no, I guess I either had
no expectations or low expectations, and I ended up enjoying it.
So definitely. Recommendation is that, I guess that is a
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Four movie, right, Well, it's releasing, it's coming to Disney Plus. Yeah,
it's twenty twenty four movie. But it's dropping in Disney
Plus this month, I think, And not that I think it's.
Speaker 2: Going to do anything in the Golden Geeks anyway. That's
the only reason I asked, but I was just curious.
Speaker 1: I just found that the whole start was just a
little too slow, and I think I did go in
with the expectations. I kind of saw the trailer and
thought this was going to be more of like a
mental journey where she's like mentally and it wasn't going
to be I'll try to avoid spoilers, but wasn't going
to be actually like visually very much foto like actually
showing this sort of transformation. I thought there was going
to be a bit more comedic on that approach. There's
one scene that I just mask and was covering her eyes, like, oh,
this is disgusting, Like it really goes. I'm sure you
know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, not ideal, but
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Hm uh. I think that's
pretty much all watch it. We've been going through the
office just as you know, the backburn since we got
back from our trip. You know, by the time we
work and then we gets the team in the bed
and it's like we're freaking tired. We're still feeling our
steps from our trips. So we've just been putting on
an easy show to watch and just crash too. Can
blame me for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I don't have much either other
than night bitch. I watched the first episode of Severance
that started up last weekend, and yeah, I think the
first because I didn't rewatch season one in preparation for this, uh,
and so I think the first episode is me kind
of like jogging my memory. Oh, I forgot about that,
I forgot Hero's in here, I forgot about this character
in that connection. And then I'm like, kind of please
piecing things together. By the end of it, I'm like, Okay,
I do. Maybe I don't remember like all the details,
of course, but there also is like a recap at
the start of the season. I feel like I kind
of got back in the swing of things, so hopefully
it picks up a bit more. I don't know how
I feel yet about it. I mean, it's only one
episode of the season, so we'll see where it goes. Obviously,
the last season and in like a big cliffhanger, and
it seems like, rather than directly doing that, we're just
kind of getting back on the swing of things. So
I guess I'll put it that without like really spoiling anything.
But yeah, I'm excited to continue through that show because
the season one was really great, really great concept backed
with really great acting, really great visuals, good writing, all
that stuff, and just like fun mystery. So seems like
they've teed up another good season here. They take a
long time to put it together too, so to me,
that's a good sign that they really put their heart
and soul into it to make sure it had enough
time to cook.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, I forget.
Speaker 2: Did you watch that one?
Speaker 1: No, that's on the list. That's an out that's an
Apple show, is it?
Speaker 2: Not sure? Is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few on there that I want to
I want to get into Severance, and my coworker just
keeps recommending all of these other Apple shows.
Speaker 2: They got some good ones. Yeah, it's not a ton,
but they got some good ones for sure their quality, right, Yeah,
I think so cool? Anything else you've been tapping into
or I don't not really?
Speaker 1: No cool? Okay, Well we're gonna tap into some news here.
Oh we're gonna start off with our main heavy hitter
topic and that is Star Wars. I know you you
love Star Wars.
Speaker 2: I love Star Wars, Outlaws Stars Outlaws.
Speaker 1: There you go, do you love Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 2: I love Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 1: Here Oh hell yeah, Okay, this is great because Ryan
Gosling is in talks to be joining into the Star
Wars universe.
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's crazy, I know.
Speaker 1: So of course it's it's not had any information like
spread out because it's a Sean Levi film and this
has been a standalone film that's been in the works
for the past two years, I believe, and so you know,
at this rate, the I could go down the rabbit
hole in why Star Wars movies are you know, they're
not coming out and YadA, YadA, YadA. But this definitely
is a little bit more of an upswing, I'd say
with the tracks like, Okay, hey, we got a big
name that's kind of been brought in here and it's
gonna be in this in this role and whatever that
role is, I do not know. But what do you
think about bringing a recognizable, big name person into the
Star Wars universe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to make comparison, what is the Star
Wars movie that has like the next biggest star in
like that leading role, Because obviously like Cameo or like
smaller characters, I don't like a mace window or something.
Of course there's big stars and stuff, but in terms
of the main cast, I feel like they usually you know,
like Mark Hamill, Fisher and Harrison for I forget if
with stars before I guess it was before Indiana Jones, right,
so it wasn't like a huge, huge star yea way
seven and then yeah either way, like you know, kind
of more low key people, it feels like at the time.
And then I think about, like the really any of
the trilogies that we've had, like they go for at
least for the main stars are kind of lesser star
power people like a Daisy Ridley. It was like her
first acting job, I think, right in a big movie too,
so they do that a lot. And I'm trying to think,
for like other movies or even the shows that I
have not been watching, is there another like humongous star
that's been in that leading position before. I can't think.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're exclusive exclusively talking about the big screen,
I can't think.
Speaker 2: About the show which show has like the biggest I
guess let's say Pedro Pascal, but he that kind of
made him though, right, And it's a little bit different,
right because he was in what Narcos before that and
which like it's just you know, it's solid. But I
feel like Mando was kind of the thing that Jet
packed him up a little higher, right.
Speaker 1: It definitely did it, because yeah, I feel like a
lot more roles kind of stemmed out after that. And
I could be totally wrong, that's just how I see it.
Speaker 2: And even then, he's kind of more of a TV
personnellity rather than like a movie star. I mean, we'll
see what happens with Fantastic before here.
Speaker 1: But you got Jude Law and Skeleton Crew. I mean,
he's a pretty big name.
Speaker 2: He's been a Okay, is he the lead of that
or is he just like a guy?
Speaker 1: I would say he's a lead. Him and the kids
they I mean, yeah, they're in every single episode, So okay.
Speaker 2: I guess that might be in the next tier then
after Gosling, if we put him in there. But yeah,
that is a very bold choice. What kind of story
do you think would be good for him? Like, do
you think he'd be a good Jedi type guy? Would
he be more of a scoundrel type? I don't know
what other types exists. Bounty hunter? Like, what do you
think would be a good kind of position for him
as an actor.
Speaker 1: Ay, yeah, yeah, uh, it's tough. He can do a
lot of things. He's a very versatile actor. I don't
know if i'd want to see him as a smuggler
gunslinger kind of guy, because I only because we just
got Jude Law as that kind of a character to
a certain degree, So that's kind of like I don't
want to have more of the same. Of course, whenever
this movie comes out, that'll probably be well away from
now when we just had Jude lost, so they could
they could definitely make him that kind of a character.
He'd probably be a cool Jedi. I couldn't see him
as a dark side character, like much of a villain.
I just don't see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if he's if he's being in talks to
lead a thing. I mean, I think it would be
really cool if they did that, but I don't. I
don't think they will at this point in time. And
so this is yeah, this is a film specifically, So
I don't know, what do you like? Obviously all the
films it feels like fiction at this point, it's vaporware,
But like, what do you think the chances Like, I
guess this movie. Have we heard a lot from that
because you said Sean Levy is doing this one.
Speaker 1: Like se Levy from Deadpool Wolverine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like Free Guy and stuff like that. So
he's that seems like an odd pairing like that. He
seems more like he do an episode or two of
a TV show, but give him a movie that also
seems like a bit of a pivot. So I don't know,
is that one like in terms of the movies that
you think are actually likely to happen, or does that
one kind of rank and the announced Star Wars stuff.
Speaker 1: I think it's likely just because we've got Ryan Causing
attached to it. And I think Disney, you could paint
this however you like. It's totally up to your own perspective.
But the way I paint this is that, Okay, Disney
likes to see success stories. They see why can't I
remember her name? Wonder Woman?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Dell No? The director, Uh Patty, thank you, Patty Jenkins.
So they see her success with wonder Woman, and then
Disney's like Rogue Squadron, boom movie, It's all yours and
they do this big announcement reveal kind of thing, and like, Okay,
that's great, and then she has her next movie that
kind of flops Wonder Woman too, not as hot, and
so I think Disney's like, Okay, pump the brakes, Patty,
what are you doing. We're gonna We're gonna shelve your.
Speaker 2: Are you concerned that the fall guy just bombed at
the box office? For Gossling, that was his last starring role,
which was like a very probably similar vibe to what
a Sean Levy Star Wars situation would be.
Speaker 1: Like I think I mean with that being.
Speaker 2: It's always trigger because before he crushed in Barbie, which
was one of the biggest movies of the year.
Speaker 1: That's right, But I think I think they're looking at
it from like the latest, like the latest release now.
I think when you're looking at with Ryan Gosling being
a fall guy, I don't think they put that on
Ryan Gosling. I think when they're looking at in the
directors sense, like with Patty Jenkins having done Wonder Woman,
that being great, made money, and then the next one bombs,
it's like, Okay, we're not going to give you a
Star Wars movie anymore. I think when you look at
this this kind of theme here with Sean Levy or
is it LEVI I think it's Levy. Uh. He did
did Poolverine that made a absolute killing at the box office,
and so they're like, Okay, here you go, we're going
to give you a Star Wars movie.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: If he was to do something else right now and
that movie or bomb, I think Disney would provoke his
Star Wars privileges and like, we're gonna take this back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they only look at the dollars and cents, and
I suppose that's right.
Speaker 1: But so I think coming off of this hot streak,
and you know he did this, I was a Disney movie.
He made Disney over a billion dollars. So Disney's gonna
hand him the reins to a Star Wars project. I
think that there's a lot more running with this because
they think, Okay, this guy is gonna make us make
us another billion dollar movie. Ryan Gosling's in there. He's
a big name. But big names don't always generate that hype.
And like we were talking about, you know that recognizable factor,
And this is what Travis will always go to. Is
that Jack Black? And why can't I remember her?
Speaker 2: Was it Lizo or someone?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Lizo? Yeah, they were both in one of
the Mandalorian episodes and that definitely does pull you out.
Speaker 2: So do you think you'd have that same effect with
Gosling even though obviously he's known as like a higher
caliber actor than than those two, But do you think
you'd have that same effect where you can't unsee the
Gosling of it? You love Jude Law too, like when
you're watching that show where you just like, that's not as.
Speaker 1: Perfect chameleon into the role a bit better. Interesting, So
if Ryan Goslin can do that, then kudos. Sim I
think he I think he can. I really think he can.
But my hang up is usually there's actors that I
see certain things or when I see them in a movie,
and my mind just goes back to another version of them.
And in this case, the version of Ryan Gosling that
I always go to, and I blame Travis for this,
is that stupid meme where Ryan Gosling is like, God
damn it, have you seen that in this.
Speaker 2: I must have seen it at some point, but clearly
it hasn't imprinted on my brain. That's interesting. Yeah, I
feel like, even for me, Gosling is someone that I
don't immediately there isn't like an immediate role that jumps
to my mind of like, oh yeah, I only see
Gozling as that character. I'll never unsee it in the
same way like John Rassenski will like always be Jim
to me, or like I don't I can't see I
can't unseee Jack Black as just like the Tenacious d
persona and stuff. But yeah, I feel like Gosling to
me is just such a versatile actor. Has done so
many different types of things that I've seen him in
from you know, ranging from colmedy to dramatic, and so
I think he maybe it'd be as far as like
big Stars go. I think he is a pretty good
fit in that way that I could see him at
least make a bit of a transformation. Who knows, maybe
they throw some alien tentacles on his head, like Soca
or something like that. Maybe a little transformation on it too.
But I think this is a decent pick. It does
seem like a bit of a pivot for Star Wars,
But I don't know, Maybe they're just it's not even
though these movies haven't been successful, they just haven't been
making them. So it's hard to say that that like
they're looking to turn the leaf. For that reason, they
just need to commit to something at this point and
get it. I guess we're finally getting Mando this year, right,
Mando of the movie that is so Yeah, you make
a good point.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't look at the history of Star
Wars right now and just take it in that data.
I mean, of course, last movie twenty nineteen. I think
now where we are at post COVID, they need to
just start put out putting out projects. They can build
that data and kind of learn from it and think, Okay,
well we can pivot this way, we can do this,
because you can't just take other movies and make these
comparisons and think, Okay, we're gonna yeah, we're gonna do
this with a Star Wars movie. It's just so much uncertainty.
Speaker 2: And for our sake, I hope Mando is a billion
dollar movie because we got pizza. We got a pizza
bed on the line for that, that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I could go I could go for a pizza.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I'm starving over here.
Speaker 1: And what else do we have here? So Dave Filoni's
Star Wars film will reportedly feature characters from Skeleton Crew. Now,
of course you haven't watched Skeleton Crew. I do recommend it, though,
I think you might enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna watch.
Speaker 1: Do you like Goonies?
Speaker 2: I never seen Goonies? You never see Okay, so I
should go watch Goonies first.
Speaker 1: I guess you probably should. But that was if I.
Speaker 2: Am going to finally get around to Star Wars show,
it'll be, It'll be and or That's the one I
think I would do.
Speaker 1: That's good, that's definitely good.
Speaker 2: With the on the priority list that is, that is
way down there.
Speaker 1: That's fair. But yeah, that's cool, little little crossover thing there.
Who that character could be? I do not know who.
Speaker 2: Those character is apparently maybe multiple. So do you think
it could be like the Crew of Kids? Would that
make sense at all? Or would that be a bit
too much of a like I don't know something think
about like the most recent horror movie. There's just like
a scene with like the Guardians, Like, could you see
something like that the kids popping up as someone who
doesn't know the plot.
Speaker 1: It's possible. I mean, they really open it up where
the characters could start interacting with more.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing these kids don't all just die at the end,
because that would be morbid for Disney to do.
Speaker 1: No dead kids here. Yeah, but yeah, that's this is
a fair point characters, so that would be interesting to see.
And it takes place at the same time period as Mandalorian.
Uh yeah, so it fits in. It fits in well
with characters popping up. Uh. We also have a Sooka
now season one fantastic, fantastic, but of course, uh Bayalen
Skull who was are not Jedi Master, but he was
the He was one of the main kind of antagonists
I guess I should say of the first season with
his apprentice shin Haiti. So shin Haiti, Now it's quite
a name, like Skull and and Haiti like the wolves. Okay,
they're like the folklore the legends the Wolves.
Speaker 2: Does that folklore exist in the world of Star Wars
in a galaxy far far away?
Speaker 1: I guess it does now, But I just know that
the names are familiar. I think the names bear some
kind of like Viking wolf kind of is.
Speaker 2: There Vikings in the Star Wars far far away?
Speaker 1: There's space?
Speaker 2: But I'm learning so much about Star Wars.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ray Stevenson, he played Baylen's Skull and unfortunately, of
course Ray Stevenson is no longer with us, but he
did a fantastic job as that character. But Rory McCann
or McCain is best known for playing the Hound in
Game of Thrones. He's going to be replacing the late
actor Ray Stevenson in the second season.
Speaker 2: He's got the beard for it.
Speaker 1: He's got the beard for it. Yeah, So I'm I'm
super happy they're gonna keep carrying on with that character
storyline because that first season ends on the biggest cliffhanger
with that character, and yeah, they have to have to
keep running with that. So I'm glad that that character
can live on like this as I do like I
do like this pick. Someone else made a better pick,
but this one is really okay. I say better because
I could just I could get on board with it.
I've got a Baylen Skull Black Series figure on my shelf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think then arms reach or or would he be?
Would it ruin your your setup? I could lean. I
don't want to ruin your setup. I just I don't.
I do want to see what this character looks like
the Black series. These are rare. These sellout in minutes
at your local car. There is a blank Look at
that beard. It's a little bit of I mean it's
not quite as full as a Santa, but it's definitely
quite bushy of a Beard's cool.
Speaker 1: There's his apprentice. She's got creepy eyes.
Speaker 2: She sure does. What's that character? Has that been? Has
that been? What was?
Speaker 1: Then? Haiti and Baylen Skull And look at that blackies figures?
Speaker 2: They line up so beautiful. I mean, not that you'd
ever put them sideways. I guess no, because you want
to see what's that's right? I guess if you take
them out of the box, and then you can keep
the box on the shelf and like, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. But I I can't take them out
of the box. That's no. It's like breaking my code.
But yeah, there we go. So Ahsoka, I can't recommend
that show enough. It's great, but I'm extremely biased because
of Thron and all those characters. And the last little
bit of Star Wars news is that Nalie Portman is
open to returning to Star Wars. Now. The rumors here
were a little bit convoluted because people were saying, like, oh,
it's confirmed, she's coming back as Padme. Oh yeah, this that, this, that.
But from what I could hone in on what was discussed, Uh,
it looks like Dave Filoni is reportedly, you know, rumors
been pushing for her to return, and she has been
open to the idea of maybe coming back as Padme
in Ahsoka, So I'm assuming that would be a flashback
of some kind. Now, Padme has a huge tie with Ahsoka,
like through Anakin. They're all close characters, close friendships, so
I wouldn't put it out of the mind for them
to do that, especially with Anakin having appeared in the
first season of Ahsoka and getting flashbacks. I think it's
definitely in line for them to do something like that.
But it would be cool to see Nilie Portman back
in the Star Wars Star Wars Prey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that would be awesome to see
her come back, just because you know, her character unfortunately
is kind of curse with the fact that she was
only in the prequels based on what's going on with
their character, right, so she only had the prequel era
writing and whatnot that people are not necessarily super fond
of in retrospect. Of course, you are in many many
others and I'm still kind of nostalgic for that stuff too.
But yeah, I think that would be really cool to
give another shot of that character. And it sounds like
there's already you wouldn't even have to like shoehorn it in.
It sounds like there's already a bit of that connection
there that you could just organically bring in. So I
think that's pretty cool, especially because like she's you know,
not going to come back for the MCU anytime soon.
Uh maybe, I guess Secret Wars like everything's everything's open,
but I don't think that's happening. And so if she
just wants some like free Disney Bucks, I mean, Marvel's
done that. That well is dried up, So where's the
next oasis over in Star Wars Land? So I think that's, uh,
that'd be cool. I think I think people would be
really hyped for that. I mean, like, how many of
the Old Guard have we like not got at this point,
We've got pretty much everyone, right, Yeah, we got Liam,
you had that Anakin come back, right right, but you
had like Obi Wan recently, all everyone came back for
the last trilogy. Of course, there's not a lot of
people that haven't.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, Sam Jackson, you know they could always.
Speaker 2: Right, always tricky. With the other characters that have actually died,
then yeah, find ways to bring them back. But but
this one with Padme, this this makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I like what you said, Like it would
get a lot of people excited. A lot of people
would be pretty restoked about that. I do feel like
she her character and Natalie Portman like she had a
lot more to do in like Star Wars one and
Star Wars two, specifically Star Wars two that third one.
I feel like she was just there and just had
some depressingly romantic lines that she shared while Anakin started
killing people. She didn't get to really shine as a
character there. But yeah, I digress. Maybe this will be
the yeah, the redemption. Uh cool, that is all I
got on the Star Wars news. Are you ready to
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Speaker 2: Sorry, quick side. I feel like Sally Forth. That kind
of sounds like a Star Wars character name too, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Sally Forth? It kind of does. My mind always goes
to Army of Darkness when as evil like dead eighte
version is his jaw keeps breaking off and he's like
Sally fourth. That's why I like to say it sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about that movie a couple of
days ago. I want to give it a rewatch. I
think specifically Army of Darkness. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was definitely the most zaneous for sure. Uh so
what do you think about Chris Evans and now we
already always coming back, but what do you think about
him playing not really his alter ego but his arch
nemesis Captain Hydra in Doomsday? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So help my brain out here. So we talked about
so many rumors and news. This is confirmed, Evans is here,
is confirmed that he's coming back. Yeah, we just don't know,
yeah exactly. Yeah, okay, okay, gotcha, that makes sense? Okay?
I yeah, So, I mean it looks like we're getting
like a almost like a not that this is the
storyline of Dark Avengers, but that sort of idea. We're
taking those original crew, those original Avengers, flip it on
its head and now those people are the villain in
like this alternate dimension where they're coming in a different characters.
One that'd be really funny for Chris Evans, Like, let's
I guess that is still Captain America, but it is
almost like a third variant that he will have played
then in the MCU, which is which is kind of
fun just just as one actor there. But yeah, like,
I don't know, what do you think this is like?
Because we did we did theorize on this. I think
when we talked about that Chris Evans rumor or maybe
it was a confirmation back then that he was coming
back for this movie, before we knew what the role
would be, and you know, talked about like what if
they bring all of them back, all the original crew
as like evil versions, and that could be an interesting
thing to go with here. So this is another domino
in that direction if we go that way. So I
guess the weird one of them maybe be Hulk since
he's still kicking, but you know, ce J Creature, you
could bring him back, even though we would just have
rd Hole gup. Might be strange, but I don't know, Yeah,
I think this would be interesting. I mean I think
if you're gonna get only get two, you'd get Downy
and Evan. So like maybe they're just happy with that
and then they can bring in other villains or whatever
they else want to do for the that movie. But yeah,
I don't know if it like super duper excites me,
to be honest, but I'll be there and I think
it'll be a hype moment. I'm sure there'll be some
fun lines, and he's gonna bring it as a performance.
I think that'll be fun. We've seen him since the
MBSU do a lot of like fun villainous roles or
like more antagonist roles, and I think this is it'd
be fun to get even like a deadpoo Wolvering, he
was a bit more of like a it was like
a villain, but a bit more of a shithead, so
we got like a very different version of him. And
this would be kind of like a third variant on
that too. So I'm down for it, like I said,
though not not super duper top excitement level though mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to this character, Captain Hydra
or whatnot, I know nothing about and I tried looking
into him and I could really find scarce tales. There
seemed like there was two versions of this character. One
that was Zola affiliated okay, and then the other one
that was just a Captain America from another universe. But
it seems like these characters are just not equivalent but
mirroring their their other good selves. And I like that.
I think that's that's just kind of fun. And I
think people that will be kind of confused, like oh,
I thought he died. Well, I think this will help
kind of clear it up, like, oh no, it's just
an alternate bizarro version of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean even then, that's a good point, Like
he's still Captain America is still around in this world.
He's just an old man. Do you think they would
like because that would seem like something you'd want to happen, Like, hey, dude,
there's like a version of you here. Can you help
but fight him or something or like talk him down?
I don't know, do you think that we would get
to that? Do you think we'll ever see old man
Captain America again? It seems like kind of weird to
just not kill him off back when you had the
opportunity just to like kill him off in Secret Secret
Wars is like a throwaway moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could I could see something. I could see
him getting I could see him come back, I absolutely could.
But I could see him come back as either like
a martyr or like a signal, not a signal, but
just him to be getting killed that sort of thing,
a symbol, or I could see him coming back. And
that's how they close out the entirety of the MCU.
It's like, Okay, no more movies, and they just give
us a real nice moment with old man Caps sitting
there and you got old man Sam or something like that,
and they're just together just swapping stories.
Speaker 2: I don't know, other than swapping stories and something else.
Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, I think him him coming back. I
love I really do love that idea. It's scrowing on me.
Everything with Robert Downey Junior coming back, that's growing on
me too. And I think it's just gonna be fun
to see their alternate kind of portrayals. And like you said,
this is the third variantlet is gonna be playing, so
I think that just goes to show how diverse he is.
I can't even think of another character in the MCU
that has played three different variants. I don't think anyone
has really.
Speaker 2: Oh man, no, I I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean we're not including Kang because that's those numbers
if you do.
Speaker 2: If you do include Kang, then he's had like at
least a million.
Speaker 1: At least a million. Yeah, yeah, cool. Anything else on
the Chris Evans.
Speaker 2: Uh no, nothing, okay, uh.
Speaker 1: Our next bit of news. And I hope I'm pronouncing
her name right.
Speaker 2: I believe it's Io. Just to I jump in before.
Speaker 1: You ioh, thank you. Io at Abiri Ruber to be
in talks to join the MCU as storm. Uh. Do
you want to start this off?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah. So this is an interesting thing and very
unsurprising because this actress, who is great, was previously cast
in Thunderbolts but then had to drop out because of
scheduling issue or something like that, which also happened with
Stephen Ewan right who was supposed to play the villain
in that. So that movie had a couple of things
because it just kept getting delayed the production I suppose,
And so the fact that she had signed on willing
to do that movie, to me, it was like, oh yeah,
at some point she will come back, and God damn,
do someone to have her on, Like I think I
considered putting on the draft and then maybe Travis talked
me down because he told me that she was already
in Thunderbolts and then dropped out, I'm gonna try and
pull this right. I'm gonna try and poll this draft
while you're you're talking about this. But I think it's great.
I think she's fantastic. She has great range from comedy
down to like really serious dramatic acting, which is like
what you want in the MCU. You want someone who
can do both of those things. I'd be super down
for this. I think this goes along with a lot
of what we've been seeing or suggesting or I don't know,
I guess predicting of what are they gonna do for
the MCUX men. Are they gonna go on younger side
of things? Probably other than like maybe Hugh Jackman is
still Wolverine. And I think this this falls in mind.
I don't know how old she is, but she seems
like she's like mid twenties or early twenties kind of thing.
So I think that fits very nicely and it's a great,
great pick. I hope they I hope they nail that
because I would love to have her in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that this is fantastic.
Speaker 2: I do have her on my current list?
Speaker 1: Oh you do? Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2: And I have Steven Youwan as well, So I have
the Thunderbolts dropouts just waiting to go. So hell yeah,
even more so do I want this now? That would
be fantastic.
Speaker 1: I have only seen her in the show The Bear,
and it's a fantastic show. I really like her in there. Now.
The fact that this is this is kind of like
a potential rumor that's popped up with her rumored debating
talks to join the MCU's Storm. I think that there
is some credibility here. Of course, I don't know what
the tier is, best tier, B tier or whatnot. But
going back a couple of weeks ago, maybe a couple
of months now, we have the actress Cynthia Arrivo and
she played Alphaba in Wicked, and shortly after then she
was basically putting out this statement that, oh I have
an interest in playing Storm, okay. And the reason I
say that is because, okay, what if you have you know,
there's they're putting out like a cast and call or whatever,
like you just the people out the GA, like we
don't get to see all those sorts of details, but
people with their agents, like maybe this actress, hey, her
agent reached out was like, hey, guess what they're looking for?
A Storm? And then she maybe she knows she's not
getting it, but she just casually puts out like, oh,
you know, I'd love to play a Storm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But the fact is there's this buzz and there's this
discussion about Storm as a character right now, and then
you have this rumor saying, oh, ao is you know
in talks to potentially be playing Storm. So I think
that that just kind of gives it some credibility where
you have certain other celebrities and actress talking about Storm
as a character, and then here you have some rumors
popping up. It Just to me, it feels like, Okay,
this rumor might have a little bit more weight behind
it than the normal. But maybe I'm just reading too
much into it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah, I wonder if she didn't talk
to play like Storm. I feel like we should start
hearing some other X Men rumors pretty soon here, So
that would be pretty exciting, pretty exciting thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially after Wolverine and Deadpool. I feel like, Okay,
they know that people are craving for that that X
Men stuff right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if that at all we can look
at a movie like that and point to, like, Okay,
what characters did they not decide to do cameos? Where
Like they could have brought back halle Berry perhaps as Storm,
but like maybe they didn't do that because they didn't
want to like reset that in the way that like
people saw Blade with Wesley Snipes and got HIPing, like, oh,
we just want Wesley. Like obviously people still love Marshali,
but it's like now they're like have been refreshed after
all these years of what that character is capable of,
and oh maybe that maybe if they've been thinking, okay,
Storm is gonna be a crucial part of the X Men,
which would make sense. You obviously got to have her
in there. Maybe that was a reason against doing a
halle Berry cameo in that particular place, just so that
people don't get kind of reset on the cycle of that.
Speaker 1: And it's funny how you you say that. It just
made me think about how you have Nicholas Hoholet, who
is not tier as Beast anymore because he's now off
in the DC universe, but we have Kelsey Grammer who
has been portrayed as beasts. It's just it's it's funny,
and I feel like that's not a coincidence. I don't
think Holt is like, oh, they chose Grammar's beast over mine,
will screw you. I'm gonna go work for DC. I
don't think that's how petty of a situation this is.
I think it's just the the Yeah, it's not a coincidence.
I think that there's actually like there's thought behind it,
and there's there's actually a plan behind it with what
they're doing. But I can't really put it into words,
if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think everything is very up in
the air. I mean, obviously Doomsday was not supposed to
be a doomsday movie until recently. So like, obviously, things change,
and a lot of that was because of the controversy
around Major's right. But these things happen, and more could happen.
More could change for all sorts of reasons. So who knows,
maybe Doomsday bombs and then they just got to go
totally different direction. That would be shocking to me. But
I mean that movie's gonna have a huge budget already,
so I don't know. Yeah, things change things very fluid.
It feels like at the MCU right now.
Speaker 1: H Yeah, I can't see that movie doing under a billion.
I think it being so long since the last Avengers movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Deadpool just crushed a billion last year, so like
MCU is still very capable of it. So I think
it'll happen for sure, especially be bringing back the big hitters,
but also probably all more expensive than Deadpool, so that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sweet, Well, I've got a couple other little Marvel
topics in here. Marvel's Young Avengers project rebranded as Champions
as rumor reveals production start date. So it was basically
a new report from the Hollywood insider Daniel RpK, who
seems to be at the source of many different rumors
and whatnot I've been seeing on Twitter. He revealed that
the former Young Avengers project won't start production until twenty
twenty six. This means that you probably wouldn't be seeing
this project hitting screens until at least earliest would be
twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean hearing those numbers right now, they feel
like sci fi numbers, but it's like, oh, that's just
next year, So I gotta get used to, gotta get
used to all of this because that's insane. Yeah, so
this makes a lot of sense, right because last I
forget if this was an official thing or if this
is more of a rumor or like just people speculating.
But last Comic Con in the summer, when we were
breaking down that panel, when we're like the doomsday one,
when they did that big revealed there's a lot of
things that were coming out in One of them was
that Disney had trademarked Champions as a thing, and so
people thought, oh, they do that right before Comicon. They're
going to announce Champions here, and hell, yeah, let's do it,
And so who knows. Maybe I think honestly, the doomsday
stuff was so last minute, obviously when we got the
Russo Brothers coming back downy confirmation. So I feel like
it's probably not unlikely that they scrapped a lot of
stuff they have planned for that comic com because like,
all we need is Doomsday. That is our thing, that's
going to go viral, that's the thing people are gonna
be talking about. And almost like we don't actually want
other new info in here because we don't want to
bury those things potentially, So I do that timing. Maybe
you know, maybe that was not true. Maybe that was
just a room where you're hearing, or like a Twitter
it was like the creation of like an Instagram account
or something weird. So it's not like official official by
any means. But where there's smoke, there's fire for a
lot of these things, and this seems to be happening.
The timing of it is still weird. It's like, man,
how is it taking them so long to do this?
I feel like already the fire is like starting to
die off a little bit in some in terms of
some of these characters, it'll be, especially by the time
twenty twenty seven rules around once again, with that being
like the earliest estimate, it's like, wow, Okay, a lot
of these characters are going to be like years old
at this point before the last time you've seen them.
If we're talking about like the potential characters that could
pop in there. But I'm still glad it's happening. I
forget if if we're talking Disney Plus show or movie
when we're talking Young Avengers at this point, because we've
heard so much about it and I know it changed
at one point, or at least there's been rumors for
both sides. So I can't remember exactly what it is
hoping for a movie of course, just for like the
budget and the spectacle of it. But yeah, I really
hope that does does go ahead in twenty twenty six,
unless that means Blade gets kicked the hand, because I
just want that so rather Blade. Yes, hopefully, hopefully this
all this all happens and works out. These Avengers are
not gonna be young that much longer. Yeah, Steinfeld's probably
like forty next year. You know, you got to you
gotta get going on this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a good point with that. I mean,
they are getting older, and they've already done a great
job at setting us up with all these characters. You know,
you got Scar and all like co, all the companies.
Speaker 2: I feel Seinfeld is actually younger than me, So she's
not turning forty next year.
Speaker 1: But how old is she?
Speaker 2: She's only a year younger than me, ninety six er.
Speaker 1: I thought she was like early mid thirties.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah I thought so too, but there
you go, she's uh, I have I can't talk. I'm
an old man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think that they this is something
that I feel like should have been in production a
little bit ago, but I would accredit the delay and
the push to be due to the Kang situation. Whatever
that might have had as an impact on the story.
I don't know, but I'm to do an Avengers film
and have to restructure that. Avengers film definitely plays a
big hand and changing the overall narrative for all the
different projects. And I mean, you're the MCU being thirty
plus films, I want to say, I can't fully remember
the top of my head.
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely over thirty films.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say at least over twenty eight. I
don't know why that came to my mind, but et leiost's.
Speaker 2: Like fifteen years with an average of like two, Okay,
so I guess it is probably pretty close to thirty.
We're talking about projects overall.
Speaker 1: Like that's yeah, yeah, so that's a big narrative to
kind of intertwine with each other and with everything. And
so if they're shoveling this down because that there are
problems and they had to rectify certain inequities, then I
totally get it. But uh yeah, just don't don't keep
pushing this. But if you've got to push Blade to
get this out to the public. Don't put Blade out
and then get this out afterwards, because I'd like to
have Blade.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cool. Uh next on the list here of MCU topics. Uh.
I hope I'm pronouncing this gentleman's name correctly. Faran to hear.
It's said to reprise his role from Iron Man in
the New Vision series for Disney Plus. Do you know
who this character was?
Speaker 2: I mean you put an image in the Dog thankfully,
which helps me out but doesn't help the viewers out.
He's like a guy in the cave and Iron Man.
He like helps Tony or it doesn't help Tony. I
I don't know what did he do.
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he played Raza and he was the leader
of the Ten Rings terrorist organization in the first Iron
Man movie. So he's the guy who's like Jericho missile.
That's all I remember him saying the.
Speaker 2: Iconic lin Jericho.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He got severely injured, and I I guess he
didn't die in the first Iron Man movie.
Speaker 2: Okay, you mean the character, not the actor.
Speaker 1: The character. Yeah, because we have Obadiah Stain was testing
out his new little like hand like nerve stim thing
where he was like, like it sounds like a frequency
to your head, and he did it to Iron it
to Tony as well, and it just paralyzes you. So
he because Obadau's stain in the first movie, was trying
to get the Iron Man's suit, and so he took
the suit and he did the brain freeze thing to
Raza and that's the last we saw of him. So
people probably assume that he died, but no, he's clearly alive.
He's still kicking and for whatever reason, they're throwing him
into the new Vision series, which I think is great
because this man wanted like he wanted suits. He wanted
Jericho Missile and then he wanted an Iron Man suit
for himself and now yeah, he is going after a Vision.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything meaningful to this or is
it just like a or is it just like, oh,
Jimmy Wu because we need a cop we can bring
into character that we've had in another thing, Right, I
think it's exactly that. Yeah, I mean more, does this
get my hype of up? Am I gonna remember this
guy when I watch Vision even though we've already had
this combo? Probably not, uh, but I do. I do
think it's actually cool, like for the people who are
hardcore fans. You know, the GA doesn't give a shit
about this. But I don't think the GA is gonna
care about the Vision show at all in general. But
I think this is a fun, fun, little weird connection.
It's not like he's gonna be referencing stuff from Iron Man.
Maybe he will, but I think he's just gonna be
like some random guy in here. So I don't know.
It's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I didn't have it on my Bingo card, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know if anyone. I don't know if
anyone have that on their Bengo card. My god. Next
on the MC news train, here we got We've got
all just Daredevil born Again. You and kirk you've heard
of it. You did a wonderful coverage of that trailer
that dropped h and I told myself I was going
to watch that trailer, and then I stopped because Kirkland
mentioned a few things that it can spoil. And me
and him are still in the the like, we haven't
done our Dare Devil season two retro yet. I think
water this weekend. Yeah, me and him have both finished it. Okay,
So we're going to be recording that soon and then
we're going to be getting into season three and I.
Speaker 2: Want to get that this weekend win Records.
Speaker 1: There you go. We I held off from watching the
trailer because I didn't want to have any spoilers from
season three. I don't want to. I just want to
go and go and blind for this new season because
I'm enjoying the show. It's great. But I digress. So
Daredevil Born Again is coming out first season in March,
and it looks like season two is going to be
popping off here as well, because uh, Charlie Cox sturing
in appearance with co star Will Bethel at Fanexpo San Francisco. Uh,
the actor confirmed that they're gonna be rolling on in
the next season of Daredevil by the spring. And I quote,
it's been so many years since we released any Daredevil content.
I'm really excited about it. By the time we released
Born Again on March fourth, we'll already be shooting season two.
So it's just a gift that keeps on giving.
Speaker 2: Has it been that long since you have Daredevil content?
Have we got them three times in the last year?
Speaker 1: Yes, she is just liar.
Speaker 2: The third.
Speaker 1: Oh Echo, God, don't forget about Echo. I always forget
about Echo.
Speaker 2: Jeezuise Uh yeah, I mean I this is uh, this
is the weird case. We're like, okay, this season at
one point we supposed to be a lot of episodes, and
they split it into two seasons. So it doesn't surprise
me at all that they're getting going on this right away.
It sounds like the story is really meant to be
told over the course of what would have been one
long season now two seasons. So cool. It's great to
gate confirmation with this before it even airs, because to me,
that seems pretty solid that it's gonna happen at the
very least, even if that show doesn't do numbers. It's
always hard for streaming to know like what they decide
to keep going and what they decide to cancel. But
this is is awesome. I just am so excited, Like Daredevil,
one of my one of my favorite characters in the
Marvel world. That show is one of my favorite shows
of all time. Honestly, so very excited for season two.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah I am as well. Uh So, moving on,
we are getting into some Doctor Strange stuff. Now, Okay,
the Doctor Doom was is rumored to be in Doctor
Strange three, and I'm gonna kind of just I'll combine
all of these together because they're kind of all pretty
much the same. Doctor Strange three is rumored to be
releasing between Doomsday and Secret Wars, and Doctor Strange will
not be appearing in Avengers Doomsday anymore due to rewrites.
So originally it was going to be part of the
story with the whole Kang character, but then that situation
forced their hand to change up the narrative a little bit. So, okay,
he is reportedly no longer going to be in that
Avengers movie.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, this is all connecting in my brain. This
is a puzzle. It's a three piece puzzle, that's all
it is. It's a simple one. I think it makes
a lot of sense. So I think I think for
Doomsday in general, already, with I was talking about like
bringing Downy back, you're gonna want to give him a
lot of screen time. If you're bringing back Evil Cap,
you're gonna want to give him a lot of screen time.
I think for the most part, they should try and
keep Doomsday a pretty thin, lean movie, don't have too
many characters in there. We don't even know who our
current Avengers TM are, so like, let's just get some
good moments with them. Let's not spread it out to
you know, too much butter. Let's get the right amount
of butter for the right amount of bread. Okay, And
then you know, you do your kind of Captain Marvel
Black Panther stuff whatever, like you're kind of in between movies,
and then we go into Secret Wars and that's just stupid.
That's just stupid fun cameo centric fanboy fan service. It's
not a good story, but it's just a fun ass time.
That's kind of the vibe of what I'm gonna expect
for that movie. You're gonna get everyone back. Ever, And
so that to me makes sense for a good point
for Doctor Strange. Now, of course I'd love if he
was in Doomsday because I love the character. But I
think in terms of there being like a little one
two three of Doomsday into Doctor Strange three with interwined
with that character to some extent, and then pulling that
into Secret Wars altogether, to me, that sounds really exciting.
I mean, maybe Doom dies. I guess he wouldn't. He
probably wouldn't dine in Doomsday if he's gonna be in
Doctor Strange three, and it would be weirdy to kill
him off in Doctor Strange three and not want to
have been Avengers movies. So I assume that he's gonna
be in Secret Wars as well. Uh So, all I
have to say this, this is very exciting for me.
I think that'd be fun to pull in Doctor Doom
for Strange three, and that movie is definitely happening. Like
Strange two was huge at the box office. Friend who
forgets about that? It was a really big movie. So
it doesn't surprise me at all. That's the one that
Scott greenlit to go ahead, especially with like we had
some pretty big Cliffhanger lead off stuff at the end
of that movie, right, multiverse, So we're set up for that,
and let's see what was the other one? Doctor Strange
will not be in Avengers Doom Day and then Yeah,
so he was more there with the Kang stuff, which
that actually makes a lot of sense that he would
have been more integral with the Kang version of the storyline.
So yeah, all of this makes sense to me, and
I'm I'm in for it. I think it's a nice
little a little soft trilogy to an extent here, M yeah.
Speaker 1: Well said, I echo a lot of what you basically
mentioned there. I think that that second Doctor Strange movie
is just fantastics. I had so much fun with that,
a lot of really cool things, and with such a
big cliffhanger, It'll be cool if we can kind of
keep pursuing that storyline, that narrative with Cleo and getting
into the yeah Cleo, clea Cleah, getting into the uh
Cleah storyline with with the next Doctor Strange, and you know,
it is what it is, having to change up the
narrative and subject to rewrites because of the whole Kang situation,
But I'm okay with that. I'm excited to see what
they do different. Uh Andy. Having Doctor Doctor Doom appear
in that movie could be a lot of fun because
Doctor Strange has a lot of experience with the multiverse
right now, so it fits him facing off against Tony.
I feel like they did not get along great when
we saw them in as a team, so to see
them actually be like hero versus villain in this role
and I'm assuming he's he's not gonna have that same
Tony Stark kind of mentality or whatever. But I think
he's still gonna get under Doctor Stranger's skin and really
piss him off, and I'm excited to see that. I
think you're gonna have a fun dynamic in there, depending
what kind of Doctor dum they go for. If they're
gonna have or Donny Junior play a very sinister evil
one or something a little bit more comedic, remains to
be seen, but I think it'll be a lot of fun. Yeah,
and him not being in the that first Avengers film,
that's okay. I mean, we didn't get all of the
Avengers in Avengers Infinity War. It was just you know,
the core group and then a few others, and then
when we got to Endgame, that's where they all were there.
So I'm totally okay with it. I can I can
live with that, especially because yeah, he's getting his own
movie in between, as the rumors go.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add or is that pretty
much it?
Speaker 2: That's all okay?
Speaker 1: Cool? Well, let's jump to our next ad break and
mosey on forward. And we are back from moseying. So
what do we got next on this list? Here? I
got a couple of really, there are kind of random
miscellaneous topics, but we'll start with the heavy hit here.
Robert Egger said to direct Werewolf as his next film,
described as a werewolf horror movie set in the thirteenth
century England, with dialogue true to the time period, in
theaters December twenty fifth, twenty six. This man loves his
goddamn Christmas dates.
Speaker 2: I mean it worked well for him last time. Also,
when you said, let's get into our biggest topic first,
and the first thing on our list was Shrek five
being delayed, is that? No, this is this is great.
I mean, you know, I've not loved all his prior movies,
but nos Froudy was fantastic, and this seems like a
very similar sort of thing. So hell, yeah, I think
it's fantastic. I'm still not gonna see it on Christmas Day,
but I'll watch it a few days after, uh, when
I'm not spending time with the family. So I think
this is Uh, it was great. I love what he's doing.
I think he's just existing in his little realm right now,
making these cool, weird, interesting movies. So yeah, excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited too. It seems like he was brought
on today. I saw to do the Labyrinth movie, which
is cool. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know much about Labyrinth.
Speaker 1: I don't know much about it either, not too too much.
But he's keeping busy. He's keeping busy, so that's great. Yeah,
I think it's I think it's awesome to do the
counterpart to not Sprat, to give us that that werewolf
kind of thing, and with English dialogue true to the
time period. That just sounds fantastic. We'll see because I
know the discord is popping off. Ever, was talking about
how the Brutalist utilizes some AI to assist with the voice.
Speaker 2: Chevy topic in our discord, very heavy talk. Get in
on that com tho the discord.
Speaker 1: That's right. So I'm sure that there are people that
exist out they're great actors that can really land a
dialogue true to the time period. Hopefully they don't have
to use AI to help people get that thick English
thirteenth century dialect.
Speaker 2: Yeah don't. I don't see Eggers as like a big AI,
but I don't know anything about him, so I could
be wrong without that.
Speaker 1: I mean, for a man that really enjoys these old
school time pieces, yeah, I think he's loves Ai just
just he.
Speaker 2: Would prefer to live in a world that didn't have
any computers in them.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, computerless, next we have. I was just
thrown out there Shrek five five, but delayed December twenty third,
six six. Sorry. This has been on my notes for
a while because I was compiling news notes for a
couple of weeks and it's like I had this on there.
I was like, man, I gotta we got to talk
about this competition. Were wolfs now competent. I just realized
those dates.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what are you going to see? You
can only pick one?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna?
Speaker 2: Guy?
Speaker 1: I'm a big Shrek guy, but I'm gonna see were
Wolf because you know, Shrek is great. I love Shrek.
Shrek two is my favorite Shrek of all of them,
but that Shrek five is nowhere near going to be
as great as the Like the first two, I would say, okay,
just basically just for humor. I feel like those movies
like we're in a different age now and I feel
it feel like, you know, when you're doing that kind
of humor that was in that first and second Shrek movie,
that was like it was so subtly done in a
great way. And I don't think that they could do
that and get away with it. I'm not saying it's
like South Park level or like like really really bad
and politically incorrect, but they just they they just slide
in that right kind of humor for the adults as
much as the kids can enjoy that movie, and I
don't feel like they can necessarily tackle that in another
Shrek movie. Maybe I'm overthinking it. It's just how I
interpret it, though hopefully it's good. Hopefully I'm assuming you're
seeing war Wolf. You're not going to be running the Shrek.
Speaker 2: No, I have not seen Shrek three or four. Okay,
I assume they exist because this is a one, and
there's other spinoffs and things. I saw the of course,
Uh last I was called it Last Dance. What is
that except the Last Dance?
Speaker 1: Last Wish?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I saw a Last Wish another thing called
the Last Dance. But uh yeah, I like I like Trek,
but I it's not one that I continued to watch
as I aged. I left it in my childhood. As
sad as that might sound.
Speaker 1: No, it's uh, it is what it is. I think
a lot of people have done just left.
Speaker 2: The swamp left the swamp cool. Uh.
Speaker 1: So on the Dexter front, like I said at the
beginning of this cast, we've got doing Dexter original Sin
reviews weekly and Dexter Resurrection has been a hot topic
because that is basically coming around soon and we've got
I can't remember if we announced the returning cast members.
Yes we did. We talked about that on the news
with Batista and the original Harry Morgan and all those
characters coming back. Yeah. So here we have a new announcement.
Uma Thurman is officially joining the cast of Dexter Resurrection,
playing a character called Charlie. What do you What do
you think about that? Does that get you more excited?
Are you a big Uma Thurman fan?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I I love her and
all the Tarantino stuff. I don't think I've ever seen
her in anything else. Can you think of? What are
the mother like, big Uma rolls?
Speaker 1: I mean, you got kill Bill Volumes one and two.
Speaker 2: But other than Tarantino, other than Tarantino, other.
Speaker 1: Than Tarantino, you got Batman Forever. I think it's Batman
forever with him and Robbin. What else? Freeze? Oh there
is another one? I gotta check her.
Speaker 2: So, like I want to say I'm a big fan
of her, but like I'm also just a huge Tarantino fan,
and so it's like, yeah, I am a fan by
association in a way. I don't know, but I think
that's I think it's cool. I mean, I I all
that to say that I'm excited to see her in
this because I do want to see what she's been
up to, and I want to see some other acting
chops from her with like a non Tarantino style and
see what that's like as well. Uh. Do I think
she's a good fit for Dexter? Sure?
Speaker 1: Why not.
Speaker 2: She's as good as anyone. So I'm into it. I'm
into it.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Uh she's in Oh my goodness, Percy Jackson The Olympians.
If you've ever seen that one?
Speaker 2: What else do you? Taylor? Come on, you gotta do
better than that.
Speaker 1: She's in another Tarantino, So I can't use that. She
was in Savages. Did not see that one? Ah, the
War with Grandpa? Do you see that one? Big twenty
twenty one with.
Speaker 2: The War with Grandpa? Is this like a war movie?
Is like a comedy? I can't tell.
Speaker 1: It's it's a family comedy.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I have not seen War with Grandpa.
Speaker 1: That's with Robert de Naro. Do you think she's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be the character Charlie that she's playing. Do you
think this is gonna be any association to anyone that
we know previously, or this is a blank slate, just
new character, because like maybe she's like Hannah's mom or
something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, you make a good point with that,
Like I don't know how she's gonna be introduced her
in what way she'll be connected to these characters and
his mom. That's not a bad idea. We know Harrison
doesn't have anyone after Hannah passed away, but I don't know. Yeah,
maybe he finds out I mean Dexter. Dexter is back, Yeah,
so everyone with I don't know, Like I was joking
about it being like a love interest or something like that.
But it depends where we go, if we are going
back to Miami, what the story is and how what
kind of a character of this person will be. Maybe
she'll be just an FBI agent working with Batista, Like, hey,
we're getting close to finding where he is. We're going
to track him down and go after him. Or maybe
she does offer up some help to Harrison and maybe
she's I hope that they're not just gonna make her
a serial killer. And I think Travis Travis said that
since I'm echoing it just him being or her being
a serial killer, and then Dexter just spending the season
like trying to like take her down or something like that. Right,
do something more with that character?
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then uh, last, but not least before you
get to the trailers. Nolan's the Odyssey adaptation has added
John Berenthal to the ensemble. Yes, how do you feel
about it?
Speaker 2: Oh? I love it. I mean this cast is already insane.
I'm a huge Bernhal fan, and yeah, I'm just trying
to like I feel like in terms of big movie roles,
like this is not that he's like a star or anything,
but whatever, I think he's a perfect fit for that setting.
Like whatever he ends up being, I think it'll be
a great fit. And I just want to see him
in like a Nolan movie. That just seems like a
really fun combination for me. And yeah, I feel like
Bernhal I do associate as more as like a TV
guy for me. Uh, not that he hasn't been in
a ton of movies and movies that I've seen and loved,
of course, but yeah, I definitely love to see that
man on the big screen. So yeah, can't wait. I
think that's a great addition to this already insane cast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's a fantastic actor, and I've really really
enjoyed seeing him in the Daredevil show. But for me,
notably just as a character or as an actor, I
guess I've always just seen him in Walking Dead. It's
just the right that's just the kind of character I've
seen him as, And so when I got to him
and Daredevil, it's kind of difficult for me to kind
of see him in this role. But I broke off
of that and we were talking about how you see
like a certain face in this franchise and you still
see this other version of them. I don't have that
with him anymore. He's just such a great actor, and
he does play that rugged, kind of tough, rough kind
of guy. And I think this is definitely a role
or matter I shouldn't say a role because we don't
know what his role is, but a movie that he
could really really excel at. And I mean it's already
got a huge roster with Matt Damon, Tom Holland and
Hathaways and Deya Lupita Nuwongo or Patterson, Charlie's the on.
I mean, that's just a stack cast. I was talking
to my coworker today too, actually about how a lot
of movies don't have a lot of cast things like that.
Usually you get two, maybe three big names and that's it.
But here we go, we have just so many and
maybe they'll keep adding more. I mean, this is only
what it is so far, so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Nolan, everyone wants to work with Nolan.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to work with Nolan. Yeah, that's right. Anything
else you want to add to that?
Speaker 2: No, I think that's all.
Speaker 1: No, okay, cool, Well I had two other things, but
those can be pushed for another day. We can get
into some trailers here now, Maddie. I'm gonna apologize because
you wanted to know how we rank these trailers in
order of anticipation. And I know Mickey seventeen was did
drop a new trailer, but we're not talking about that
because we don't want to be spoiled.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you can blame me for that. I, Yeah,
I don't want to see anymore. I well, I want
to go see the movie in theaters, but I don't
want to see I don't want Yeah, I feel like
that is a movie that I've already seen a lot.
I feel like there's another trailer. I don't need this
at all, so decided to skip it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is fair. It's fair. So which trailer do
you want to start with?
Speaker 2: Let's start with opus opus opus opus, Yeah, magnum opus,
I guess. So. Yeah, this movie, I think it looks
pretty well. We got Ao in there again, so fun
to see her pop up again. But yeah, I think
I think this one. To me, I don't know if
I'm getting my ranking out there too early, but I
think this one looked pretty good. I like the concept
that we got going on here. It feels a bit like,
my god, what the heck was that movie called Blink twice?
I feel like it's given me a bit of that
energy to it in terms of some weird cult situation,
pulling people in a lot of confusion. Stuff going on here,
a little bit of comedy, but like also serious thriller
vibes and all that. A twenty four of course, so
I think it looks really really good, really interesting, good
style and all that. So that's probably the one I'm
most hyped about off this drop here.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, I like the trailer a lot. And yeah,
with Aoback in there, that was a pleasant surprise, I
really have. It gave me midsomr vibes to a slight degree.
But something else is clearly going on in here, and yeah,
I just felt weird. Uh just you got a puppet
that's puffing out smoke and just a bunch of other
weird things. Malcovich, I feel like he's definitely a good
pick for these kind of weird, wacky roles. He can
just definitely play a really weird, kind of crazy character
of kooky.
Speaker 2: So and I'm really excited for Murray Bartlett in here,
who a lot of people know from the Last of Us.
I forget Bill Ted he played on one of the two,
and then he was in White Lotus of course, where
I love him in He's on my draft as well
for the comprom draft, so hopefully get him in there something.
But I'm excited to see him something else seem in
a movie that's very exciting for me. So that's also
so Uh. Sup, I really like the cast. Amber mid
Thunders in there too, so really interesting.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, I haven't seen her in anything since Pray.
I don't know she's done anything else since Prey.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure she has. Let's take a quick gander.
Speaker 1: The only other movie is a movie of hers that
I've watched was I Think Ice Road, and I want
to say that was Nicholas Cage. Wasn't Nicholas Cage. It
was like they're driving. No, it wasn't Nicholas Cage. They're
driving the truck, the Ice Nissan. That's right, Liam Nisan,
Amber mid Thunder.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been in a few things. She was an
Avatar Last Airbender. Did you watch that? Didn't you watch
that show? The Reason One?
Speaker 1: We did?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, she was in there.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: She's in dream scenario. I don't remember her being in
dream scenario, but there's a cage thing if you're you're
pulling to that. Totally forgot she was in uh Moral Story.
She's she's been acting.
Speaker 1: She's been working acting. Yeah, she's been keeping busy.
Speaker 2: Yeah cool.
Speaker 1: Uh what a got next? On the trailer list? Here
we got drop. How do you feel about this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess everyone hasn't seen this this trailer.
The concept is that girl goes on date with a
guy at home or her her kids babysitters taking care
of the kids, so she can go on this date
with the guy. She's getting drops on her phone like
these weird text messages that start out just a little creepy,
but then they get very sinister of like my family
your or your your family is gonna get killed, all this,
all these crazy threats, and then eventually the hook is
that they're doing this as like a blackmail thing so
that she kills her date. They want her to kill
the date, and then she'll leave, they'll leave her family alone.
I probably butchered that. But anyway, Landa, that's more or
less the concept of it, which seems interesting. I think
that in terms of like the visuals of it and
just how it came across, it just seemed I don't know,
maybe not top tier, top top quality, but I think
there's an interesting hook to be had there, and it
seems like a lot of the movie will be kind
of taking place in this one restaurant, like at least
from her perspective, and then like the family back of
the House, and I always like a movie that can
do a lot with a little in terms of the
setting of that, so I think that's kind of interesting.
The main actress, once again White Lotus, is gonna come
up a lot because even the next trailer has another
person from White Lotus that I really love. So I
love seeing these actors who I grew to love from
White Lotus and other stuff. So she's a great but
I'm excited to see her more leading rolling. That'll be cool,
I should say. I don't know if I should say
I'm excited to see her in this because I don't
know if I am gonna watch this movie, but if
someday I am too, I don't know. I guess there's
a couple of carrots on the stick there, but I
don't know. What do you think of this one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm not overly excited for this. And it's
funny because when we're watching wolf Man, we saw this
trailer pop from the big screen, but it just it
gave me vibes that we've seen this kind of thing before.
It wasn't really blowing it out of the water for me.
It's unfortunate. I love it. If the movie was a
little a bigger scale, if that kind of makes sense.
But I feel like you said, the movie is, for
the most part, is going to be taking place in
this restaurant, and it won't be to the very very
end where she's running out of the restaurant and she
runs into her house and like shoots the killer or
something like that. It'll be something pretty anti climactic, which
is a shame. And I'm gonna give it the benefit
of doubt though, and I'm gonna watch it because I
feel like, Okay, there was a little bit of mystery
still behind this trailer. We didn't get to see everything.
I'm curious why this guy's being targeted and why they
need him to be like killed. It just kind of
gave me also vibes of that movie carry On, where Okay,
this guy is in this position that has to do something,
and so they're targeting the guy's family to make them
go through with it, and a weird sort of blackmail
kind of method.
Speaker 2: It just feels a bit like I feel like maybe
there was like a drunken night out with a bunch
of like Hollywood writers. They were hanging out of a
good time and one of them got like a drop
on his phone and he's like, oh, what if that
was what if that was a horror movie? Like what
if you know, maybe they troll in each other or
something and like spin it out into a movie. So
it just feels like a bit of a bit of
a stretch. And as you said, and I feel like
that core concept maybe it is interesting and novel, but
then like to fill in the blanks, they just filled
it in with like really generic things that we've seen
like a hundred times.
Speaker 1: Ye so yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh. Last, but not least Hell Summer.
Speaker 2: I believe it's actually called hell Hell of a Summer?
Speaker 1: Right, is it really? Oh my god?
Speaker 2: At least when I googled it, I could not find
a movie called hell Summer. And I watched one for
a movie called Hell of a Summer. Hell of Summer.
Speaker 1: I think I know who to blame for, Oh, for that.
Speaker 2: Someone who's potentially retired or someone else.
Speaker 1: Uh let me see what they put hmm, yes, someone
who uh is potentially retired.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's what you get his phone in his
work in his last few days to run up the contexts. Right,
So hell of a Summer? So this movie. I didn't
actually look this up yet, but it said this was
a movie from Finn Wolfhart, who we all know from
Stranger Things and It and yeah, he is a writer
director along with Billy Brick, who I'm not familiar with,
but is it been in things like Saturday Night Ghostbusters
are like, okay, so I guess I have seen him
act before. Interesting, so there's a little Ghostbusters connection there.
Or wait, After Life was not the newest one, newest.
Speaker 1: One Frozen Empire, so I have not.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've not seen Afterlife. So anyway, I roll the
tape back on that one. So interesting, and I feel
like Finn wolf Heart still seems like he's like, you know,
seventeen years old to me. I don't know how old
he is. Maybe he's like early twenties now, but like
for someone who is that young, he has been in
so many things and like huge caliber things TV shows, movie,
all this kind of stuff, and so it's pretty cool
to see that from him that he's already in the
director's chair working on something here. And this is like
a very classic like summer camp, campy horror slasher situation.
And once again, I think it does look pretty bad.
The books, but I feel like it does at least
it knows what it's trying to be. Like, it is
going for that campy vibe to it very clearly, even
like one of the text things in there, like a
press review thing, was like talking about that angle of
the movie. And then yeah, once again you have the
Fred fred something rather I forgot his last name, who
was in Gladiator. He was also in White Lotus. I
really like that actor, and he kind of plays like
it seems like a pretty fun, quirky role in here.
So yeah, I think this looks like a decent time.
It looks like it'll be fun. I don't think it'll
blow your socks off or anything like that, but I
think it'll be kind of what you expect, and sometimes
it's all you want from like a slasher, right. I
don't think any of us I was looking for highbrow
art out of a slash. We're just looking for something
cheap and fun to eat some popcorn and watch, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. You know. The kid has
definitely he's hit some major successes and now he's working
on his own project. I think that's fantastic. That's awesome,
And you having fun with it. I'm excited to see this.
I got a bit of a sweet spot for the
retro camp counselor horror story kind of narrative, and I
think there's gonna be a lot of fun. A little
bit zany. They maybe showed a little too much in
the trailer. It was maybe a little too long. They
could have pumped the brakes a bit. So if there
is another trailer, I'm definitely not gonna watch it. I'm
just gonna let it be and say that, Okay, this
is all I've seen so far, and that's okay because
I don't want it to be ruined when I get
around to actually watching it. But yeah, I think it'll
be fun. It'll be a fun, fun time, very true.
And how would you rank these?
Speaker 2: I'd go Opus top dog, followed by Hell of the
Summer number two. Drop It's dropped to the bottom the list,
number three, pretty simple ranking Mickey seventeen. I'm gonna say
that it would be my top trailer if I had
watched it.
Speaker 1: I like it. I'm gonna go I'd probably go Opus
number one, and I'd say Hell Summer number two? Hell?
Speaker 2: Hell?
Speaker 1: What was again?
Speaker 2: Hell of a Summer?
Speaker 1: Hell? Of a summer and number two and then drop
at number three. And yeah it was rank seventeen in
there if I somewhere in there. Yeah. Uh so, there
you have it. And Dalton, you we already got so
much February first, moble jumbo. Just let February first be
for now. But I will answer some of your questions
that you put in here. I guess, not really questions,
but crazy. I listened to Yell's glad he Ar two
review today. Dylan, did you see the comp meant that
he left?
Speaker 2: No? I did not.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it up because it's actually directed towards you.
Oh good, I'll drop it in the chat here seek
and you can see it. I think he's clarifying the
pronunciation of things.
Speaker 2: Is against versus against a Dylan or a Canadian thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's like against against against Yes, how because
I've never noticed it. How do you say it again again?
Speaker 2: Against? I think, I say against, I guess, and is
that wrong? Isn't there an eye in there?
Speaker 1: I know there is, I think against his Oh now
I'm doing it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: In there, so I would think again it is like
the word gain is slopp slapter right in the middle
of that. And so, but what did I say against
Maybe I said, but I don't think I said that.
That did not sound right off my tongue. So interesting.
If you have a timestamp, please timestamp that next time
so I can go back and listen to myself and
drive myself crazy. But I don't know if that's a
Canadian thing. That's that's maybe in Southern Canada we do that.
Speaker 1: I'm not just Southern Canada, right Yea, yeah? Cool well,
ladies and gentlemen, I think that doesn't unless you got
anything else you want to sneak in there, Dylan, I
think we've.
Speaker 2: No, it's Sally Fourth.
Speaker 1: It's Sally fourth, okay, cool well, yeah, we'll be back
next time. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning into
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