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So, Paramount Global and CBS agreed to pay 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,399 President Donald Trump a sum of money that could reach 11 00:00:41,719 --> 00:00:48,799 north of thirty million dollars in order to settle Trump's 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:56,679 election interference lawsuit against the CBS network. He's going to 13 00:00:56,719 --> 00:00:59,799 get sixteen million dollars up front. This will cover legal 14 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:05,519 costs of the case and make contributions to his future 15 00:01:05,599 --> 00:01:10,239 presidential library or charitable causes to be determined at Trump's discretion. 16 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:26,760 There is something just ironically rich about these media outlets 17 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:36,040 funding his presidential library. Right, they have so besmirched themselves 18 00:01:36,079 --> 00:01:40,159 with all of the smirch that they're going to fund 19 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:49,680 a museum to him, right? They he should You know, 20 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:51,599 when you go into the museums and stuff and they 21 00:01:51,599 --> 00:01:53,719 have like, you know, this piece is like thank you 22 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,280 to our patron, you know, so and so whatever. They 23 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,959 should put little plaques on things, like you know, oh, 24 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:05,239 here is a pair of the gold sneakers that he 25 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:07,280 was selling, and like they'll put one. You know, it'll 26 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:09,800 be under a glass case, be lights on it and stuff, 27 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,360 and it'll have like the Maga shoe or whatever it is. 28 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:18,159 And I'll say, this exhibit made possible by CBS. They 29 00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:23,280 should put those little placards everywhere. There is an anticipation 30 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:26,719 that so the sixteen million dollars is up front, and 31 00:02:26,759 --> 00:02:30,080 then another allocation, maybe in the same amount or pretty 32 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:35,800 close to it, will be set aside then for advertisements, 33 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,120 public service announcements, or other similar transmissions in support of 34 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:51,759 conservative causes by the network in the future. So you 35 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,560 are going to get a conservative voice on CBS. Yeah, 36 00:02:55,599 --> 00:03:01,120 it just took them losing a lawsuit. Fox News Digital 37 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:06,840 reports with these considerations, CBS would pay well in excess 38 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,800 of the fifteen million dollars that ABC paid Trump to 39 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:17,360 settle a defamation lawsuit last year. Current Paramount Management disputes 40 00:03:17,479 --> 00:03:22,319 the additional allocation. Okay, so Paramount, the parent company of CBS, 41 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,360 They're like, no, no, that's not accurate. Don't know. I 42 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,960 don't know all of the terms, like this is obviously 43 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,400 these things are you know, kept under wraps. I guess. 44 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:36,560 But Paramount says they dispute the additional allocation. I don't 45 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:38,800 know if they're disputing the amount of the money or 46 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,599 they're saying we're not going to be spending it on 47 00:03:40,639 --> 00:03:45,599 those things. Sources close to the situation told Fox News 48 00:03:45,639 --> 00:03:51,319 Digital that CBS has agreed to update also its editorial 49 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:57,240 standards to install a mandatory new rule which puts their 50 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:03,479 rule count now at one. Going forward, the network will 51 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:13,319 promptly release full, unedited transcripts of future presidential candidates interviews, 52 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,920 but not the video see I would want and this 53 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,920 is one of those things. Look, I came up in 54 00:04:23,959 --> 00:04:28,120 an age of journalism when you know, we did not 55 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,959 have all of the digital platforms, and so when I 56 00:04:30,959 --> 00:04:33,399 would go out and I would cover a city council meeting, 57 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,639 I would walk away from that meeting with three to 58 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,120 four hours of audio on a good night, and I 59 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,920 would pull sound bites out of that meeting and I 60 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,560 would put them into a news story in a new story. 61 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,040 We were told at the time had to be no 62 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,480 more than like forty seconds forty five if you were 63 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,600 pushing it, So you shot for thirty five to forty 64 00:04:54,639 --> 00:05:01,920 seconds package, and then I would I would record two 65 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:05,360 versions with different soundbites. I would write them up differently, 66 00:05:05,439 --> 00:05:08,959 and then I would leave extra sound bites with text 67 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,079 so the anchors could read those two. So I was 68 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,240 basically creating four versions of every story. Okay, that was, 69 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:20,360 and that's if the city council just did one story, 70 00:05:20,399 --> 00:05:22,399 like if they had three or four items on their 71 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:25,680 agenda that were newsworthy, I would end up doing four 72 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,360 versions of all three or four of those stories. Anyway, 73 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:33,079 I say all of that to say that I am 74 00:05:33,759 --> 00:05:37,160 well acquainted and have actually I'm going to tell on 75 00:05:37,199 --> 00:05:41,519 myself here, I have participated in I have committed acts 76 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:51,600 of selective editing. I am guilty of selectively editing things 77 00:05:51,639 --> 00:05:54,439 because you always have to selectively edit when you have 78 00:05:54,439 --> 00:05:58,480 a time constraint. Right, I had thirty five to forty 79 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,199 seconds when I worked in televison. The package is over. 80 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,000 In TV they run about ninety seconds, so we have 81 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,040 a little bit more time to tell the story. Show 82 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,680 video have more soundbites, longer soundbites, but you were capped 83 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,360 at ninety seconds, minute and a half, that's what you had. 84 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:16,560 So you can't if you sit down and do an 85 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,560 interview with somebody in the interview runs ten minutes, you 86 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,279 cannot post the whole thing, or you can't use all 87 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,480 of the ten minutes in a ninety second TV package. However, 88 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,240 nowadays with the interweb, you are now able to post 89 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:37,040 up like the entire interview, which you should do. It's 90 00:06:37,079 --> 00:06:41,560 one of the things that actually podcasting does very well 91 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:51,160 with its long format, long form interviews that are not edited, right, 92 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,560 They're authentic, it's a full conversation. You're getting the whole 93 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:00,639 conversation with your guest. And no some podcasts do editing, obviously, 94 00:07:02,959 --> 00:07:05,639 but if you're sitting down to interview Kamala Harris or 95 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Donald Trump in the last election cycle, and your CBS 96 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:13,920 and you have a platform, you know, not just on 97 00:07:13,959 --> 00:07:16,800 the on the TV side, but you also have your 98 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,160 your digital products, there really isn't a reason to not 99 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:24,600 make the full interview available for anybody wants to see it. 100 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,959 Why wouldn't you do it. It's just going to get 101 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,439 you clicks, right, just say, here's the full story, and 102 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,360 if you want to watch the or here's the story 103 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:33,920 and if you want to watch the full interview, here's 104 00:07:33,959 --> 00:07:35,959 the link to that, and then you get an extra click. 105 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:42,120 But they didn't do that for Kamala Harris's interview with 106 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:48,439 sixty Minutes. Remember they edited. They said, well, they sent 107 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:53,199 out a promo you know, this week on sixty Minutes, 108 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,639 and they you know, show a clip of the question 109 00:07:57,959 --> 00:08:01,639 and her answer. But then when they ran the story, 110 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:09,160 same question, different answer, And so the accusation was that 111 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:14,160 they edited, they selectively edited her answer to make her 112 00:08:14,199 --> 00:08:17,319 seem more competent, I mean, as competent as one can 113 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,079 with the word salad that she speaks in. And so 114 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:23,839 the allegation. So then they asked like, can we have 115 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,879 the full transcript? Can we get the full video? And 116 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:31,560 CBS refused to release the transcript or the video. They 117 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,799 didn't want to get. They didn't want to give it up. Now, 118 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:38,360 why would you do that. You're a news organization. You 119 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:42,039 had the Democrat nominee for president, who's the nominee because 120 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,399 of a coup against her boss? Right, you have this 121 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,679 ten minute, twenty minute interview. Why would you not want 122 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:51,720 voters to see the whole interview? Why would you not 123 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,000 want clicks for your website? Why would you not want 124 00:08:55,039 --> 00:09:01,200 people to be informed? It answered the question answers itself 125 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,519 right going forward, now the network will promptly release the 126 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,240 full unedited transcripts. And see, I don't think this is enough. 127 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,159 They're calling it Trump the Trump rule. Okay, but I 128 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:16,279 don't think that's enough. I think you should willingly, voluntarily 129 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:22,879 do the transcripts and release the full video. Why not? Seriously, 130 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,200 why not? What possible argument is there for you not 131 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:33,879 to release the full raw tape, especially if it's of 132 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:36,279 the candidate to be the leader of the free world. 133 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,799 Why wouldn't you do that unless you're trying to hide 134 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,960 their poor performance. And the only reason you would do 135 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,799 that is because you want them to win. You think 136 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:49,200 it would help their opponent by releasing the full transcript 137 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,720 and the video. And here's the thing we learned with 138 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,080 Joe Biden's interview that he sat for his deposition whatever 139 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,919 with the what was his name or or her Robert Hurr, 140 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,559 right when he sat with her for that whole interview, 141 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,399 and they released the transcript and they're like, okay, can 142 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,080 we get the audio? Can we get the video? And 143 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,279 they're like, no, DJ would not release the audio why 144 00:10:14,879 --> 00:10:20,840 because reading the cold transcript you don't get the extent 145 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,000 of the damage that the interview actually conveys when you 146 00:10:26,039 --> 00:10:30,200 hear it, which is, you know, on a transcript, it's like, oh, okay, 147 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,799 you know, Joe Biden starts talking and then there's a 148 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,120 dot dot dot and then he says what uh hmm, 149 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,159 huh whatever. But what you lose is the amount of 150 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,720 time in between all of those grunts, and in some 151 00:10:46,799 --> 00:10:51,000 cases it was like ten seconds and it's just dead 152 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,840 air and you just hear the clock in the background 153 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,679 as he's searching for the memory or the words. It's 154 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,240 way worse to hear it than to just simply read 155 00:11:04,279 --> 00:11:06,639 the transcript. So I would say, just release the whole thing. 156 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,720 Why did you even need to go through all of this? 157 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:12,720 Just release the video, And especially after the election, it's over. 158 00:11:12,879 --> 00:11:14,960 Just release the video. You guys could have avoided all 159 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,039 of this, all right. If you're listening to this show, 160 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,639 you know I try to keep up with all sorts 161 00:11:18,639 --> 00:11:20,679 of current events, and I know you do too, and 162 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:24,200 you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. 163 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:24,919 Speaker 2: Why. 164 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:28,039 Speaker 1: Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is 165 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,519 why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an app, 166 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,960 and it's a website, and it combines news from around 167 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,399 the world in one place, so you can compare coverage 168 00:11:37,639 --> 00:11:40,320 and verify information. You could check it out at check 169 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,799 dot ground, dot news slash pete. I put the link 170 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,960 in the podcast description too. 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Your subscription 179 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:16,600 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 180 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,879 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 181 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,360 Let's head over and chat with David. Welcome to the show, David, 182 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,440 How are you good? 183 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: Good? Thank you here. I'm calling because it's a little 184 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,559 confusing to me what the problem with the Medicaid cuts 185 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:40,240 really is. As I understand that those cuts were denominated 186 00:12:40,279 --> 00:12:45,159 by how much had been measured as fraudulent, or people 187 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:51,000 were not working, not even agreeing to work, but receiving benefits, 188 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:56,840 or by some frauden of activity sucking money out of Medicaid. 189 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,519 So I don't understand why is upset or why he 190 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:07,360 thinks North Carolina is going to be terribly terribly impacted 191 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:09,639 by that unless we've got a whole lot of fraud 192 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:12,360 going on or a whole lot of people that are 193 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,240 willing to work. 194 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: So Number one, there isn't there isn't a work requirement. 195 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,080 The Senate bill puts in this work requirement for the 196 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,799 Medicaid Expansion cohort. That's the group that we're talking about. 197 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:27,600 Did you hear so last hour? I did a deep 198 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,519 dive on all of this and the mechanism that Tillis 199 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,399 is trying to protect, and what in short form, what 200 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,600 it is is that you've got the expansion that occurred 201 00:13:37,639 --> 00:13:40,879 in twenty twenty three in North Carolina. The Feds were 202 00:13:40,879 --> 00:13:46,080 offering ninety percent matching for every for those expansion population, 203 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,120 ninety percent federal match And so what the North Carolina 204 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,240 legislature did was they put a tax on hospitals and providers. 205 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,919 But then when they get the federal money, they do 206 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,600 a rebate essentially back to those providers in this same amount. 207 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,679 So it's basically offloading the cost through this what they 208 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:07,000 called the provider tax. They offload the cost to the 209 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:10,320 rest of the country. And the North Carolina law was 210 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,759 written in such a way that if the reimbursements ever 211 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,360 dropped from a ninety ten split, if they went down, 212 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,519 then it would trigger basically a kill switch on the 213 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:27,799 entire Medicaid Expansion cohort. And so what the Senate bill 214 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,320 does triggers that kill switch. So the entire six hundred 215 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:37,000 thousand plus population under the expansion cohort would now lose 216 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,399 access because the state law is written in such a way. 217 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,840 So that's what Tillis was trying to protect was this 218 00:14:45,879 --> 00:14:50,000 mechanism that had been developed not just by North Carolina 219 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:54,240 Republicans but other state bodies. They had devised this way 220 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,720 to offload the full cost off of the state taxpayers 221 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,120 and spread that cost around for the rest of the country. 222 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:05,120 And they basically do this sort of money laundering deal 223 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,320 through the hospitals and the providers. 224 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,879 Speaker 2: That sounds exactly like what it is. 225 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, yes, sir, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's yeah, 226 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,279 and that's why people outside of North Carolina are pretty 227 00:15:16,279 --> 00:15:20,840 hacked off about it. And I guess I totally understand why. Yeah, David, 228 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,919 I appreciate the call, sir, thank you. Take care. Yeah, 229 00:15:25,919 --> 00:15:29,080 I mean it's there was a piece that I read 230 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,320 through this in the last hour, a National Review, a 231 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:37,919 piece called Tom Tillis defends a medicaid scam, and so 232 00:15:38,279 --> 00:15:39,919 we covered that in the last hour. You can get 233 00:15:39,919 --> 00:15:44,919 the the podcast at the peatpod dot com, WBT dot com, 234 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,080 at any of your podcasting platforms, and so you can 235 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,919 read how the mechanism actually works. It's broken down very 236 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,440 very well by Michael Cannon. All Right, so Trump Donald 237 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:04,440 Trump was seeking twenty billion in a lawsuit against CBS 238 00:16:04,559 --> 00:16:08,120 over its handling of the sixty minutes interview last year 239 00:16:08,559 --> 00:16:13,000 with Kamala Harris, and Trump accused the network of election 240 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:19,159 interference leading up to the November election. CBS does not 241 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,600 acknowledge as part of this settlement, they do not acknowledge 242 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,840 any journalistic wrongdoing. I thought it said for a minute 243 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,440 there are any journalism, but now they are like, we 244 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:35,320 didn't do anything wrong. The lawsuit alleged CBS deceitfully edited 245 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,240 in exchange that she Harris had with Bill Whittaker from 246 00:16:40,279 --> 00:16:43,679 Sixty Minutes, who asked her why Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminintennaho 247 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,360 wasn't listening to the Biden administration. Harris was widely mocked 248 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,799 for the word salad answer that aired in a preview 249 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:53,320 clip of the interview on CBS's Face the Nation. However, 250 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:57,000 when the same question aired during a prime time special 251 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:02,639 on CBS, Harris had a different, more concise response. Critics 252 00:17:02,679 --> 00:17:06,279 at the time accused CBS News of deceitfully editing Harris's 253 00:17:06,279 --> 00:17:10,319 word salad answer to shield the Democratic nominee from further 254 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:15,039 backlash leading up to election day. The raw transcript and 255 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:19,640 footage released earlier this year by the FCC because the 256 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:25,599 FCC had to get involved. The raw transcript and footage 257 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,000 showed that both sets of Harris's comments came in the 258 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:34,000 same response, but CBS had aired only the first half 259 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:36,960 of her response in the Face the Nation preview and 260 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,839 then aired the second half during the primetime special. So 261 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,240 I think the assumption there is that the primetime special 262 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,599 has way more viewers, and so they were trying to 263 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:49,920 protect her from a larger audience. CBS has denied any wrongdoing, 264 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:57,519 stood by the broadcast and the key for me, much 265 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,200 like the ABC News set up, which was a fifteen 266 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,480 million dollars settlement after George Stephanopolis repeatedly and then correctly 267 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:10,759 asserted that Trump had been found liable for rape he wasn't. 268 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,480 ABC additionally paid a million dollars for President Trump's legal 269 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:19,319 fees as well. The reason why these outlets settle is 270 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:26,359 because they don't want discovery, right CNN right, same thing. 271 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,839 They don't want the discovery, which is where the lawyers 272 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,279 get access to all of the internal records, all the emails, 273 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:39,279 correspondents and stuff. 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But I think he was also thinking 305 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,359 about his competition and a proposed upcoming Senate race. 306 00:20:34,759 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: And who do you think that Who do you think 307 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,000 that competition would be that's so scared him? 308 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,319 Speaker 3: Well, there's I mean you just had it on your news. 309 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,119 I mean three or four different people. It's gonna be 310 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,039 some real competition on the Republican side. 311 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,079 Speaker 1: But well but think about it. If you've got Pat Harrigan. 312 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,279 If you got Pat Harrigan, you got Tim More. First off, 313 00:20:57,319 --> 00:20:59,440 I don't even think any of them would actually challenge 314 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,160 him in a primary. We had Andy Nilson who had announced, 315 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,200 and we we have Don Brown who announced. I don't 316 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,000 think you get any elected members of Congress to try 317 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:15,000 to leave their seats as a member of Congress to 318 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,599 run for the Senate seat against an incumbent Republican, right, 319 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,960 So I think that they're. 320 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was specifically thinking about Whatley. And then of 321 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,759 course Laura Trump, I mean just could be a king maker. 322 00:21:30,519 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think so I don't think Wattley would 323 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,839 have done it. He said his focus is on the 324 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,079 mid terms. I think Trump wants to keep him where 325 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:41,599 he is because he's been successful doing it, and for 326 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,640 the same reason. I don't think Wattley leaves a post 327 00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:47,599 in order to challenge an incumbent like Tillis in a primary. 328 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,440 And as far as Laura Trump goes, I think yes, 329 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,799 like she is sort of like we have, we been 330 00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:57,559 using this term right of first refusal for her, Like 331 00:21:57,599 --> 00:21:59,839 I think if she says she's going to run that 332 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,920 and I think everybody else clears the field for her 333 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,960 and she walks in, well maybe not all that. You 334 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480 probably still would have a couple of the candidates still running, 335 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:10,400 but I don't think you get any congress members that 336 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,079 run against her. But I don't know if she actually 337 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,960 wants to do it. She's got her gig at Fox News, right, 338 00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:19,599 She's got young kids at home and what to go 339 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,039 to go to the US Senate where you're not going 340 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,160 to be able to actually do anything. She'd have to, 341 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,440 you know, change your residency to North Carolina again. So 342 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,319 I don't know if she wants to do it, but 343 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,720 I don't think she would have challenged Tillis in a primary. 344 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:39,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Tillis never has really impressed me. It was 345 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:45,039 some of his other decisions through his career. I didn't 346 00:22:45,079 --> 00:22:47,279 have any choice, so I went ahead and voted for him, 347 00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:49,359 because I surely didn't want to vote for a Democrat 348 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,359 and the last sentate race and or the Democrat that 349 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:57,880 was at least a posed him at the time. But 350 00:22:58,319 --> 00:23:01,079 you just reported a few days ago he had only 351 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,119 had four million dollars in his campaign bank account. I 352 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,480 mean that there won't even be It could easily turn 353 00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:12,319 out to be a fifty to one hundred million dollar race, 354 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,160 and so he that would put him back in and 355 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,200 he's a little bit old too, and that would put 356 00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:22,799 him back into basically an eight year commitment if he 357 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,400 were to win. First of all, he still got another 358 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,200 what eighteen twenty months to go, Yeah, be nothing but 359 00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:33,599 pure fundraising, wall the wall, and then if he won, 360 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,240 another six years. And he pretty much spelled it out 361 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:40,839 about his grandkids. But I think age is a key 362 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:47,440 factor because they really long term successful senators. I'm thinking 363 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:53,000 of the Thurmon's, the Frintz Hollings, was it Sam Irvin 364 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,319 in North Carolina? And then Graham. Now in South Carolina, 365 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,880 these guys get up there and they split the rail, 366 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,079 the political rail, all the time. And one of the 367 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,440 reasons is they it's going to keep him in the 368 00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:10,200 Senate for thirty or forty years, just like Thurman did 369 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,519 in South Carolina. He was a Democrat at one time, 370 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:17,839 So that's what And then you and then Tillis his age, 371 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,160 you put all that into a pot and stew and 372 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,440 you started around a little bit. I think the excuse 373 00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:26,319 about the Medicaid and everything kind of became a good 374 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,799 arguing point for Tillos to get out. That's that's kind 375 00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:31,319 of my theory about that. 376 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,519 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a I don't think and 377 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,799 he had well. I went over this Monday. There was 378 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,319 a report from Ruben Jones at Spectrum News. I don't 379 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,000 think the medicaid argument that Tillis was making was the 380 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:48,680 reason for him to get out. I think he had well. 381 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,599 Speaker 3: I don't either. I just think it was a good excuse, 382 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,079 an argument that he was using at the time. 383 00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: But that's not but he hasn't used the Medicaid thing 384 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,640 as an excuse to get out he so he has. 385 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: I have a general comment about that too. I mean, 386 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,359 there is no free market in healthcare in this country. 387 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:13,519 There is no industry in this country that occupies I 388 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,039 keep hearing the economists say it's roughly a sixth to 389 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:21,720 maybe even a fifth of our economies wholly associated medical 390 00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:26,480 expense and everything. And there's fabulous medical campuses everywhere you 391 00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:29,160 go in this country, especially in this state. I mean, 392 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,640 they're just fabulous, and I don't think twenty to forty 393 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,559 percent of them would even be built or so push 394 00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:41,079 if it wasn't for the governments guaranteed seventy to eighty 395 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,039 cents on the dollar of literally every patient that comes 396 00:25:44,039 --> 00:25:46,960 in the door. There is no other industry like that 397 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,279 anywhere in this country. So that that's part of the 398 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:59,240 lack of what's the world I'm looking for business competition. 399 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,000 It's just it's not a free system. It'll be an 400 00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:05,039 ongoing issue for the rest of our lives until the 401 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,880 government gets out of it. The other types of. 402 00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Jim and the government's not getting out of a jim. 403 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:14,160 And that's the whole point of the medicaid expansion was 404 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,920 to get more people on the rolls to then we 405 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,720 pave the path to make government in charge of all 406 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:19,920 of it. 407 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: There'll never be any control of medical calls or delivery 408 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:28,039 services in the country. Boom, the debate's over. 409 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,319 Speaker 1: Jim, I got to run. Jim, I appreciate the call. 410 00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:37,240 I recommend go check out Spectrum One's tweet by Ruben Jones. 411 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:41,599 He lays out till US's decision making process and why 412 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,799 he decided not to run again. 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The sharing of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Chuck 432 00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:59,000 Grassley issued a press release after internal FBI emails revealed 433 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:06,160 that the FBI suppressed intelligence of alleged Chinese interference in 434 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:11,960 the twenty twenty election. So not the last election, although 435 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 I'm sure China was messing around there too, But this 436 00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:19,799 is from twenty twenty, right when Biden beat Trump in 437 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:26,960 twenty twenty. There was Chinese interference in that election. The 438 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:32,640 FBI was informed about it, and they suppressed it. Why, 439 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:40,079 according to Grassley's office, to insulate then FBI Director Christopher 440 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:46,240 Ray from criticism after Ray had provided inaccurate and contradictory 441 00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:52,039 testimony to Congress. So Ray had gone before Congress said 442 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,119 one thing, and that was not true, So they suppressed 443 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:02,519 the intelligence. The FBI dclassed and provided the requested records 444 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:06,519 to Chuck Grassley, along with an accompanying cover letter. After 445 00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:13,039 Grassley initially received information from whistleblower disclosures. The FBI emails 446 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,400 offer an inside look at the bureau's decision to recall 447 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:23,279 and suppress what's called an intelligence information report, or an IIR. 448 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:28,920 They suppressed it, they recalled it. This IR came from 449 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,440 the FBI's Albany Field office in Upstate New York, on 450 00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,440 September twenty fifth, twenty twenty, so like not even two 451 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,920 months before the election. The IR contained information from an 452 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:48,400 FBI confidential human source alleging that the Chinese government was 453 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:55,440 producing quote tens of thousands of fraudulent driver's licenses to 454 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,920 manufacture mail in votes for then presidential candidate Joe Bi 455 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:11,279 in the twenty twenty election. H According to the FBI, 456 00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:18,039 these allegations, despite showing signs initial signs of credibility, were 457 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:21,640 allegedly never fully investigated due to the FBI's sudden and 458 00:30:21,799 --> 00:30:27,160 quote abnormal decision to halt the investigation and bury the 459 00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:32,359 IR's existence, preventing any additional FBI field offices as well 460 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,319 as other intelligence community elements from accessing or studying the document. 461 00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:41,480 This is similar to the story we talked about a 462 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,000 couple of weeks ago, right where they had created in 463 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,480 the FBI database right of all of their files and stuff, 464 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:57,599 and they created like a special designation that blinded every 465 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:04,599 other field office an agent from the existence of cases 466 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,200 that were opened. I believe the cases were about Hunter 467 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,599 Biden's laptop, if I recall correctly, but I don't recall 468 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,039 exactly what it was, or maybe it was Stele dossier something, 469 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:18,680 I forget what, But they they blinded everybody in the agency. 470 00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:23,039 So like you could go to this database, you can 471 00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,240 type in some key search words or case numbers or whatever, 472 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,200 and it would flag stuff and would pull it back 473 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,039 in the search results, and it would say, yes, there's 474 00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:36,039 a case. You know, it's about Pete calendar, but that's 475 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:37,759 a top secret case. You can't look at it. But 476 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:40,079 at least you would know that there was a case. 477 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,319 But they had created this other classification where if you 478 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 ran a search term for my name, it wouldn't even 479 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,480 show up. So while there were documents, there were cases 480 00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:57,119 and information and reports about me, you would not know that. 481 00:31:57,839 --> 00:32:01,279 So you would not know if there's a large investigation 482 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,160 going on, and you might very well have benefited from 483 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:11,039 that information while you're investigating some other case. That's what 484 00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:17,880 this sounds like, that they buried it the FBI stated 485 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920 reason for doing this was because quote the reporting will 486 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,079 contradict Director Ray's testimony. Quote, these records smack of political 487 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,920 decision making. Improved the Christopher Ray led FBI to be 488 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,839 a deeply broken institution ahead of a high stake selection 489 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,400 happening amid an unprecedented global pandemic, the FBI turned its 490 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,200 back on its national security mission. He said, Grassley said, yeah, 491 00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:48,799 just remember, you needed the driver's licenses in order to 492 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,960 do the mail in ballots, and we needed all the 493 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,640 mail in ballots because everybody was going to die of COVID. Well, 494 00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,440 the people who didn't die from net neutrality, obviously. According 495 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,079 to the Assistant Section chief in the FBI's Counterintelligence Division, 496 00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:09,279 the IR immediately generated a lot of attention from headquarters. 497 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:14,240 Upon receiving this report the IR, the FBI Albany officials said, quote, 498 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,759 we have no reason to recall at this point, like, 499 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:19,680 why are you recalling this report? Minutes later, the Albany 500 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,400 Field Office was commanded to recall the IR at the 501 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:29,960 direct request of headquarters officials, including a person named Nicky Flores, 502 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,519 then Deputy Assistant director of the FBI's Counterintelligence Division. Months 503 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:42,240 before dismissing the IR. Flores provided an unnecessary briefing to 504 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:47,440 Chuck Grassley and Senator Ron Johnson regarding the FBI's investigation 505 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,839 into the Biden family. The briefing was supposedly classified, but 506 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,160 it was then leaked to the press in an effort 507 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:03,079 to falsely smear Grassy and Johnson investigation as Russian disinformation. 508 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:11,360 Following the IRS recall, FBI Headquarters informed field offices that quote, 509 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,960 all raw reporting concerning the election will now require HQ coordination. 510 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:27,280 Everything runs through DC. Because Christopher Ray had testified before 511 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,880 Congress we have not seen historically any kind of coordinated 512 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,159 national voter fraud effort in a major election, whether it 513 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,280 is by mail or otherwise. That's what Ray had said 514 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,880 that was not true. I will say also that the 515 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:50,960 Foreign Influenced Task Force has since been disbanded under Trump. 516 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,559 All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 517 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,639 so much for listening. I could not do the show 518 00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,159 without your support and the support of the businesses that 519 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,320 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 520 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,039 them too and tell them you heard it here. 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