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Speaker 1: A fucking and now it's time for the good. Oh
Speaker 1: that's good.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 2: Well, that's just fucking great.
Speaker 1: God's just fucking great. Go bad, it's bad. It's bad.
Speaker 2: Well that's fucking not good.
Speaker 1: And the are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2: Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me? God?
Speaker 1: Damn it? Are you fucking with me?
Speaker 2: All right, boys and girls, As always, we started off
Speaker 2: with a good will. Look, I know I come on
Speaker 2: here and say this every week. Some people might think
Speaker 2: we get tired of say that. I fucking don't. It's
Speaker 2: another winning week as a company at FGA twenty five
Speaker 2: and twenty two. On the week, we just keep on
Speaker 2: fucking rolling. Baby c k our boy star of the
Speaker 2: fucking Week thirteen and six, killing it week after week.
Speaker 2: He has hit his groove. Now all your eight is
Speaker 2: in his fucking player. Props are fucking on fire. Look,
Speaker 2: if you're not buying his package and you're doing player props,
Speaker 2: you're literally doing life, all right, You're wasting your time
Speaker 2: and you're fucking money. This dude is just printing money,
Speaker 2: printing money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those pick sixes are huge now too.
Speaker 2: We get to get this ship for free.
Speaker 1: Those pick sixes contests are huge now or whatever. Hell,
Speaker 1: I've never done on short but I think you can pick,
Speaker 1: Like if you get four out of four, it's like,
Speaker 1: isn't it like a ten to one or twenty to one?
Speaker 2: I don't, yes, yes, depending on what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's huge money, like yeah, by the package money HANDI
Speaker 2: or fists by his fucking buy a fucking package is
Speaker 2: price sales. Long Horn always says, you're literally doing everything
Speaker 2: wrong if you do not do that, all right for me,
Speaker 2: eleven and ten on the week, We'll take another fucking
Speaker 2: overall winning week. I hit my free pick on Jackson State.
Speaker 2: That's right, Jackson State minus twenty eight and a half
Speaker 2: nine and four now free picks for the year for me.
Speaker 2: So another good week there. Let's get into the specifics though.
Speaker 2: The New York jayt is just a jests plus two
Speaker 2: both of us, long Horn and I had this one
Speaker 2: to our clients long Horn hit the sounder on the podcast,
Speaker 2: plus the one ten Ah, this certainly was a weird one,
Speaker 2: and I did lose a unit of the game. We'll
Speaker 2: get to that in the Are you fucking kidding Me?
Speaker 2: But overall in this one have to been Longhorn. We
Speaker 2: got extremely lucky just to get this win. This Jets
Speaker 2: offense is a fucking abortion. Fields was completely outclassed by
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel. And yes, that sentence just came out of
Speaker 2: my mouth. But in the end we did get a win.
Speaker 2: Thank god. Longhorn thoughts on this, I guess it was
Speaker 2: an NFL game.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, you know, sometimes these things happen builds.
Speaker 1: By the way, he only had twenty eight yards rushing,
Speaker 1: which that's just I don't I don't know what they're doing. Look,
Speaker 1: you take a you get a win with the worst
Speaker 1: coach in football. I'm just gonna I'm not gonna try
Speaker 1: to overanalyze it. And his defense sucks. He gave us
Speaker 1: maybe maybe maybe, but yeah, you're you got Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 1: on the road who threw thirty two times and you
Speaker 1: can't even turn him over in New York. That's fine
Speaker 1: because he's he sucks, so I get that. But like
Speaker 1: this defense, who I think they had how many sacks
Speaker 1: at the end of the way, because they several Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Will McDonald have four sacks himself. There are
Speaker 1: two other sacks, so six sacks on Dylan Gabriel. He
Speaker 1: throws thirty two times and you can't even turn him
Speaker 1: over like Aaron Glynn. Like I mean, Will McDonald was
Speaker 1: a good pass rush, come on call. So he that
Speaker 1: that's not airinglyn that has nothing to you get help credit.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So this defense continues to underwhelm with good
Speaker 1: players on the defense. So yeah, hit the cunder just
Speaker 1: because of the spot and Cleveland's defense not being that
Speaker 1: good on the road. However, they did with a two
Speaker 1: punt return or two kick return touchdown.
Speaker 4: They really only gave.
Speaker 2: Up I'll get into the thirteen this game and they
Speaker 2: are kidding me. Yeah, so all of this was but
Speaker 2: m yeah.
Speaker 1: It's it's just one of those It was just one
Speaker 1: of those games that was like deathtined that just happened.
Speaker 4: It was just yeah, all right, moving.
Speaker 2: On Seattle minus six and a half. I put that
Speaker 2: out to my clients and This is a combo platter
Speaker 2: because Longhorn did him Arizona plus seven to his I
Speaker 2: was honestly hoping that I would win and he get
Speaker 2: the push right on the number, but Seattle obviously had
Speaker 2: other plans. Longhar did lose two units on the danger
Speaker 2: zone in this one, and even though I warned him
Speaker 2: not to play the money line because Seattle was my
Speaker 2: survivor picked, he decided to do that.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 2: A great game for me, not so great for Longhorn,
Speaker 2: and the same hell true really for both the team
Speaker 2: Seattle's offense. This is the most explosive offense, boys and girls,
Speaker 2: that we have seen since the two thousand and one Rings.
Speaker 2: That was a stat I heard while I was listening
Speaker 2: to the game while I was traveling yesterday will I
Speaker 2: looked it up and they're actually on pace to beat
Speaker 2: the Greatest Show on Turf for explosive plays, which those
Speaker 2: are categorized in the NFL as pass plays over twenty
Speaker 2: yards and runs over ten. They had seven of those
Speaker 2: in this game alone. Arizona got some really good stat
Speaker 2: padding in the second half. It was literally by all
Speaker 2: definitions of so what I talk about trash time a
Speaker 2: lot Sometimes I'm using hyperbole, but of the actual definitions
Speaker 2: of of trash time, if you want to use those
Speaker 2: a filter at those out of your algorithms. Of the
Speaker 2: second half was categorized as trash time. It was an
Speaker 2: absolute ass whipping from the start. After they fell down
Speaker 2: about three scores. The Cardinals literally never made it back.
Speaker 2: But then even two scores of the.
Speaker 4: Game pre scores like five scores.
Speaker 2: I mean it was, I know, but it was three.
Speaker 2: After they got down three, they got back within three,
Speaker 2: but it never got back within two scores. So I
Speaker 2: know you had some thoughts on this game.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I mean it was always do
Speaker 1: the wrong pick. I'm not gonna sit here and say
Speaker 1: it was a good It was like should have should
Speaker 1: have been this, should have done that. But like they
Speaker 1: got down twenty eight to nothing or thirty five or
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck it was.
Speaker 2: And and it was very.
Speaker 1: Early, so you can call it trash time. But since
Speaker 1: like a quarter and a half of the game they
Speaker 1: basically outplayed them, and the exposure it.
Speaker 2: Is by definition of the actual like you look up
Speaker 2: the trash time in the definition, man, well, advanced analytics
Speaker 2: the rest that's.
Speaker 1: Fine, it's fine, and I'll accept that. But if you're
Speaker 1: gonna do that, then there was trash time from a
Speaker 1: quarter and a half on, which which when you're out
Speaker 1: about thirty five, ye're that's fine, you can call it
Speaker 1: trash time, which you're you're almost never gonna lose that game.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, Like, you'll never convince me that
Speaker 1: a team that has looked completely different comes out and
Speaker 1: goes down.
Speaker 4: I'm thirty five to nothing. There isn't something else going
Speaker 4: on there.
Speaker 1: And you know with the way the scuttle butt of
Speaker 1: the way the coach handled the collar benching, and that's
Speaker 1: what that's just what it was. It was. It was
Speaker 1: a coyler was healthy to play or almost healthy to play.
Speaker 1: Last week they went with Brissett. Brissette plays well against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, beats him. They announced Brissett the starter, and
Speaker 1: then and then literally like not even a full day later,
Speaker 1: Coler's on the ir like there's there was something that
Speaker 1: went down in that locker room, in that in the
Speaker 1: you know, the facilities, and I know Color's not a
Speaker 1: you know, a leader of men that's been well established.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have a clique.
Speaker 1: Every person, there's always a click and he's a quarterback,
Speaker 1: so he's one hundred percent and have to click. He's
Speaker 1: been there for seven years, however long it's been so
Speaker 1: and it really really takes one or two scenes, probably not,
Speaker 1: but like it only takes one or two steeds of
Speaker 1: this is shit. How can they do this to how
Speaker 1: can they do this to them? And you just you
Speaker 1: you derail the thing. Now, this is an unproven theory.
Speaker 1: This is just what I'm this is just my thoughts.
Speaker 1: I can't explain how a team goes down thirty five.
Speaker 1: Cleveland doesn't go thirty five another the Jets don't go
Speaker 1: down thirty five to nothing, the Saints that don't go
Speaker 1: down thirty five to nothing in a quarter and a
Speaker 1: half like this.
Speaker 2: Clearly you weren't listening on the Pias when I said
Speaker 2: that DeMarcus Thorrens is gonna have two defensive touchdowns in
Speaker 2: the first quarter, I literally said.
Speaker 1: That, allow So so look, I take it's a bad
Speaker 1: loss for me. Obviously I took the l and it hurt.
Speaker 1: But like, I'm not changing what I said on the
Speaker 1: podcast as their Arizona is still a play on team
Speaker 1: because you can have your one game mutiny and you
Speaker 1: major point. They they you got shit stomped or whatever
Speaker 1: they're going with Brissette going forward. So now it's time, okay,
Speaker 1: you major point, let's all get back to playing football.
Speaker 1: And and yeah, the fact that they were down thirty
Speaker 1: five to nothing and they kind of played them. They
Speaker 1: they won the turnover battle. It was three to nothing
Speaker 1: at the end of or three to two at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. So they came back fall hard,
Speaker 1: cast some turnovers. I don't know, man, just you know,
Speaker 1: obviously bad, but it was a perfect.
Speaker 2: Storm for Seattle. To the two defensive touchdowns in the
Speaker 2: first quarter. It's hard to come back from that. And
Speaker 2: then I think that the big takeaway from me, I
Speaker 2: do have to obviously downgrade Arizona.
Speaker 4: But that's fine, that's fair.
Speaker 2: That the bigger takeaway for me was, Okay, now we've
Speaker 2: seen them against and I think I texted during the
Speaker 2: game and we'll get into it a little bit later
Speaker 2: with some more of these scenes. But to me, Seattle,
Speaker 2: and who else to text you about? Oh the Rams, Seattle.
Speaker 2: The Rams to me have now separated themselves for the
Speaker 2: rest of the NFC through halfway through the year, like
Speaker 2: they're just a really good fucking team that which you
Speaker 2: called you fucking had them win the division. I did
Speaker 2: not have them in as good.
Speaker 1: Well they're tired, so I mean they're they're tied with
Speaker 1: the Rams, so it's it's gonna come.
Speaker 2: I got a chance, and I never thought they would
Speaker 2: have a chance to be this good, and they truly are.
Speaker 2: So we saw Arizona step up in competition from the Dallas,
Speaker 2: who is very a middling team obviously two probably best team,
Speaker 2: second best team, however you want to rank him in
Speaker 2: the NFC right now. And we saw the difference of
Speaker 2: that talent play out on the field, and on top
Speaker 2: of that, the perfect storm of two defensive touchdowns in
Speaker 2: the first quarter that gets into it gets rolling, it
Speaker 2: got away.
Speaker 4: So it happens. Take you just take it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, my buddy Longhorn, though only
Speaker 2: man on the planets, only man on the planet that
Speaker 2: had Miami put it out plus nine and a half
Speaker 2: of his clients. It wasn't just bullshitting. He also hit
Speaker 2: the big dick pick two units on the plus nine
Speaker 2: and a half half a unit of the money line
Speaker 2: plus four hundred. That's two more units there, boys, the math.
Speaker 2: That's a units on the Big Dick. I don't have
Speaker 2: a season numbers in front of me. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: on the road, but that should get him close to
Speaker 2: even money to the Big Dick.
Speaker 1: I think it's like, I think it's like plus nine
Speaker 1: thousand or something like that easily. I don't have the
Speaker 1: numbers in front of me either, though, so I could
Speaker 1: bet wrong.
Speaker 2: But look, I'm just gonna get out of the way.
Speaker 1: Bring all there.
Speaker 2: That's an awful, awful, awful loss for the Bills, the
Speaker 2: long Horn, all your flowers. Sir, you're the only man
Speaker 2: on the planet. You're I'll get into the survivor thing later,
Speaker 2: but this game literally made six people and I'll get
Speaker 2: into it later millionaires and I'll explain later. But you
Speaker 2: are the only dude. You're the only dude, so take
Speaker 2: it away.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well, you know, obviously I thought.
Speaker 2: There was before I let him take I was even
Speaker 2: bragging about you. I was just eating dinner at a
Speaker 2: bar at a at a restaurant, sitting at the bar,
Speaker 2: this guy sounds like, how the fuck you picked NFL?
Speaker 2: Who the fuck ever saw Miami beat? And ba blah.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, actually I got a guy said
Speaker 2: it out loud on the podcast, and everybody laughed at him.
Speaker 2: And then what do you know, what do you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just got to pick your spots. You know
Speaker 1: that that's the only thing about about picking the upsets.
Speaker 1: And I'm just a basically on the podcast in case
Speaker 1: I have noticed, like the other two handicappers are actually
Speaker 1: real good handicappers. I'm more of a like, pick your
Speaker 1: spot and pick these underdog type guy, because basically all
Speaker 1: do is pick the underdogs.
Speaker 4: And but you gotta pick your.
Speaker 1: Spots or you're gonna end up just blowing your wad,
Speaker 1: you know, and just and just bang your head against
Speaker 1: the wall. But this one a division game. The Josh
Speaker 1: Allen factor, why he doesn't cover as as a seven
Speaker 1: point dog or higher or favorite or higher, and the
Speaker 1: and you mentioned it on the on the podcast, and
Speaker 1: I kind of predicted it when you was getting it,
Speaker 1: when you were getting into it. This was a Devin H.
Speaker 4: Chan spot.
Speaker 1: This was always gonna be a David A. Chan spot.
Speaker 1: And now motherfucker went straight off one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: forty yards rushing fifty one more in the air, just
Speaker 1: you know, like and then Josh Allen like on the
Speaker 1: other side, they lost to some more people on defense.
Speaker 1: By the way, they lost one of their rookie defensive
Speaker 1: tackles or defensive in landing Jackson, two more secondary people
Speaker 1: that either got hurt during the game or didn't didn't
Speaker 1: play at all.
Speaker 4: I came, I came, remember the exact details.
Speaker 1: But look, man, Buffalo is there's something not quite right
Speaker 1: with this Buffalo team. And they knotted up against Casey
Speaker 1: hats off. I was on kset on that one. It's
Speaker 1: a map. It's just it's just it was there, well,
Speaker 1: more of a spot than a matchup like like it.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't seem to be able to match up will
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and they play them close. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, so I don't know, it's it's just a
Speaker 1: spot thing. And Tua didn't kill any like you didn't,
Speaker 1: I mean fifteen or twenty one.
Speaker 4: He did throw two picks, so he is still too.
Speaker 2: I said it was gonna be a bad game for him,
Speaker 2: which is well, I didn't really like your money line pick,
Speaker 2: but I did like the nine and a half. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I didn't better myself, but I said
Speaker 2: it was gonna be a bad game. It was I
Speaker 2: mean it wasn't great. It wasn't a terrible game eight
Speaker 2: point two yards per clib He only threw seventy three yards.
Speaker 2: But like you said, and we talked about the podcast,
Speaker 2: the said eight change should have a good game. You said,
Speaker 2: it's a spot. You fucking nailed it. I mean, the
Speaker 2: dude went the off.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see in just this big picture going forward
Speaker 1: with Buffalo by the way for a chaan, Yeah, going forward,
Speaker 1: we'll see about Buffalo.
Speaker 4: I know kin Kid got nicked up.
Speaker 1: I don't haven't heard the long term for him.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know how you're feeling about about the AFC,
Speaker 1: but I'm not feeling good fucking mess. And I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that Buffalo or not Buffalo, but Baltimore. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know they were, they were we might have to look.
Speaker 1: I put look, look, here's what sucks is. I put
Speaker 1: Baltimore out at plus seven hundred in the preseason. Also
Speaker 1: put the Rams out at plus twenty six hundred. So
Speaker 1: I've got some good tickets. But why I didn't double
Speaker 1: down when they were one in five and put them
Speaker 1: out at like plus twenty five hundred or whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what it was. Why I didn't, I
Speaker 1: don't know, because they're just gonna go on a run
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they're like
Speaker 1: the two seeds or.
Speaker 2: I got some I got some stuff on them later.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well I'll wait for it then.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, great. I mean call of the Year, That's
Speaker 2: that's the call.
Speaker 1: I have one of these every year, Like every year
Speaker 1: I have, I have one of these, and hopefully I
Speaker 1: can get another one before the end of the year,
Speaker 1: but I always have one of these.
Speaker 4: At some point.
Speaker 2: I'll get to how big a call it was financially
Speaker 2: for a lot of people a little bit later on,
Speaker 2: but definitely call of the Year, big dick, Pick of
Speaker 2: the Year, fucking great call, and I'll take Look, I'm
Speaker 2: putting Longhorns free pick in the good he had the
Speaker 2: skins plus eight because we've been telling.
Speaker 1: You're learning that, you get it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unreal. He is one of nine on free Picks.
Speaker 2: If you've been fading, like we've told you, you you're
Speaker 2: hitting it ninety as. This is the best thing that
Speaker 2: this podcast has ever fucking produced, literally fucking ever.
Speaker 1: I might start putting it out on the patron page.
Speaker 1: It's just this is the fame of the fade, lock
Speaker 1: of the year or of the week.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how you don't.
Speaker 1: And this doesn't just it's not just this year. This
Speaker 1: goes back years. This has been a while, two years years.
Speaker 2: Uh. Look, I said on the podcast golf was about
Speaker 2: to have an outstanding game, graded out to grade three
Speaker 2: points of the BPG. He didn't disappoint, twenty five for
Speaker 2: thirty three, three hundred and twenty yards, nine point seven
Speaker 2: yards in attempt every time he threw the ball as
Speaker 2: the first down, three touchdowns, no picks, and even got
Speaker 2: some snaps from his backup because it was so dominant performance.
Speaker 2: But on top of that, also said I expect the
Speaker 2: lines have a good day running the ball as well.
Speaker 2: I'd say they did two hundred and twenty six yards
Speaker 2: at six point one yards per carry. Pretty good day.
Speaker 2: Total five hundred and forty six yards to two eighty eight.
Speaker 2: This was not the Seattle game. This was actually the
Speaker 2: biggest ass whipping.
Speaker 1: Of the entire Do you have the closing number.
Speaker 2: I think it closes seven and a half.
Speaker 4: So never ticked back up.
Speaker 2: Let me see, oh numb one, Uh close eight and
Speaker 2: a half, it did go back up to eight and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: So I, you know, because we talked about, we can't
Speaker 1: understand this line movie at all.
Speaker 4: It just made literally no sense at all.
Speaker 1: I was wondering if there was some fuckery going on
Speaker 1: just to just to uh, you know, the the Billy
Speaker 1: Walters type of thing where you buy a number down
Speaker 1: just just to pound it on the other side times
Speaker 1: two or three. I don't know, because it just made
Speaker 1: no and it scared me off, you know, So it's
Speaker 1: something that I would.
Speaker 2: Have bought it down just to get the teaser.
Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: It wasn't enhing like nine.
Speaker 2: It wasn't nine and a half. It went all the
Speaker 2: way down at a couple of books to seven and
Speaker 2: a half. And I even asked you the buck, It's like, hey,
Speaker 2: if it gets to seven and a half, are you
Speaker 2: teasing the shot down? You're like no, because this money
Speaker 2: coming in. I don't understand. It scares me a way.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but Detroit's got a win, right, Like
Speaker 2: I don't understand, Like I never understood it in the
Speaker 2: first place.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just to get the money line number down
Speaker 1: because I don't see that. I don't see you buying
Speaker 1: numbers down to tease because then you still got to
Speaker 1: hit the other side.
Speaker 4: So it just it made.
Speaker 1: No stense from the jump, and it made no sense.
Speaker 1: It made no sense on the field. As soon as
Speaker 1: they kicked off, they had no point. Did it ever
Speaker 1: make any sense? It was fourteen to three and then
Speaker 1: the first quarter and it, I mean, it was just constant.
Speaker 1: Detroit won every quarter. Detroit, the Redskins couldn't even win
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter flowing.
Speaker 2: And the most garbage of garbage they get to win.
Speaker 2: Arizona fought back and put no Skins never could. They
Speaker 2: couldn't stop anything.
Speaker 4: They are the dead Skins. That is one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Tury I said it said the podcast, this team was dead.
Speaker 2: They they didn't do anything to prove me wrong. They
Speaker 2: the Lions offense had been at a funk for about
Speaker 2: a month. But turns out Dan Campbell they ran the
Speaker 2: two Dan play. They ran the two damn play. They
Speaker 2: let Dan Campbell call offs plays and they played Dan
Speaker 2: Quinn shitty defense. So you run the two Dan play, Yeah,
Speaker 2: guaranteed a great fun.
Speaker 4: You don't get to do that every week.
Speaker 1: But I did like to see that, because you know,
Speaker 1: we always wonder like, well, is Campbell just the he's
Speaker 1: the he's the testosterone guy, he's the raw, raw guy.
Speaker 1: Turns out he's not a dummy when it comes to
Speaker 1: to play calling either, And you know, that's what he
Speaker 1: kind of came up as his offensive, you know, sighted guy.
Speaker 1: You know, even even though he looks and acts and
Speaker 1: talks more like you would think he's a defensive guy,
Speaker 1: but he's not.
Speaker 4: He's actually actually an offensive minded guy.
Speaker 2: So coach in New Orleans. He was assistant offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: under Peyton there too, Like that's how he came up.
Speaker 1: And he's an age so he's not an idiot.
Speaker 4: He's a smart guy.
Speaker 2: Just he just acts like an idiot, which is again, he.
Speaker 4: Does not act like an idiot.
Speaker 1: He just talks like him like he talks like a
Speaker 1: man that's got a thousand testosterone level, like maybe higher,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Probably he's probably higher all natural for sure for sure.
Speaker 2: And the Skins, you know, longer talked about their best
Speaker 2: player getting suspended. He actually didn't even get suspended. They
Speaker 2: bought him out through one hundred thousand dollars. Fine, so
Speaker 2: he actually got to play matter. God, this Skin's offense
Speaker 2: is still so broken, two of ten again on third downs.
Speaker 2: But coach Bro's gotta go. His whole coaching staff has
Speaker 2: to go. It's house cleaning time in Washington. Just got
Speaker 2: announce dan Quins taking over defensive play calling. Longhorn, You
Speaker 2: and I know what that means. The coaches on the brink,
Speaker 2: they always go down fight like, you know what if
Speaker 2: I'm getting fired, goddamn it, I'm getting fired on my
Speaker 2: own shit. So we know he knows, we know that conversation.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, without the without the without the quarterback,
Speaker 1: I mean, you get sure, Like we talked about it
Speaker 1: last time, just just switch out the head coach and
Speaker 1: get an.
Speaker 2: Offensive guy defense this defense, and that's his thing.
Speaker 1: That's the damn That's the damning part is like you've
Speaker 1: had two years to build up this defense.
Speaker 4: And it seems to be going the other way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it is not getting any better, it's got
Speaker 2: any worse. Uh. But Detroit, this is a huge win
Speaker 2: for them because you know Chicago went. Also, they got
Speaker 2: to keep up with Sugar Breches and division race. We'll
Speaker 2: get to that game in a minute. Any other thoughts
Speaker 2: on this one long run er other than the fact
Speaker 2: that's just this was just a demolition of a debt.
Speaker 2: This is a dead team walking. I don't look the
Speaker 2: Skins are We'll bet the Skins again for sure this year.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take a certain matchup and a certain spot.
Speaker 2: And this just wasn't it. Like I said, because golf
Speaker 2: was he was always gonna have a good game. Now
Speaker 2: he's gonna fucking average a first down for every throw
Speaker 2: he said. I didn't say that, but I did say
Speaker 2: he's gonna have one of the best games of the season.
Speaker 2: So in the running game, my god, almighty, they could
Speaker 2: not stop. They could not stop six point one yards
Speaker 2: per carry, even when you know they're running, even when
Speaker 2: they're up big, they could not stop. They literally lined
Speaker 2: up could not stop it. And they saw this frustration.
Speaker 2: Darron Payne gets kicked out of the game. You know, people,
Speaker 2: I mean, this team has had it. Man, they're the
Speaker 2: skin The Skins team is just they're on tilt. We
Speaker 2: talked about and we we debate. We didn't really debate
Speaker 2: because we really didn't have strong feelings either way that
Speaker 2: I remember, but it it kind of felt like that
Speaker 2: some of that frustration had to be a little bit
Speaker 2: about their quarterback getting fucking hurt in a meaningless, fucking
Speaker 2: part of the game, and now they know they're debt,
Speaker 2: like these veterans know they're dead. And for a team
Speaker 2: that he just went to the NFC Championship game, that'd
Speaker 2: be different if they had went six and ten or
Speaker 2: six and eleven like we expected to last year. They
Speaker 2: were just an NFC championship game and now they're dead.
Speaker 1: And they're lucky to go six and eleven this year
Speaker 1: and win. So, you know, but it's a bad mess.
Speaker 1: We should have both been on Detroit and it sucks.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I was on my personal book, but
Speaker 2: just because it was I can't not fade that. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's ninety percent. I've never hit anything ninety
Speaker 2: percent of my goddamn life. This is fucking amazing, all right.
Speaker 2: A couple of the notes before we move on. Look,
Speaker 2: I know Taylor isn't gonna win the MVP because we
Speaker 2: don't give that awarded running backs, but make no mistake
Speaker 2: about it, he is absolutely the MVP of the Colts. Indiana.
Speaker 2: Jones was good in the game, not only through one pick,
Speaker 2: but Taylor again two hundred forty four yards seven point
Speaker 2: six per yards per carry, three more touchdowns. On the season.
Speaker 2: Through ten games, he's at eleven thirty nine rushing six
Speaker 2: yards per carry, fifteen rushing touchdowns. I think eighteen overalls.
Speaker 2: I mean Atlanta fought hard in that game. They lost
Speaker 2: in overtime. Penis he was really bad again though, twelve
Speaker 2: for twenty eight, six point three yards per ten. There
Speaker 2: are turnovers, which that's what kept Atlanta in. It's the
Speaker 2: chance to win. They did cover, they didn't win. They're
Speaker 2: just not ready to be real contenders for that division.
Speaker 1: Well, they covered the closing, they did clever the closing number.
Speaker 4: They didn't close six.
Speaker 2: But look, man, I think if Pennics can step up,
Speaker 2: they're not that far off. I know he's in his
Speaker 2: late thirties, but there's still hope there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of Penis to know it. Like I
Speaker 1: think he's in that too, Like you know what he is.
Speaker 1: He's just anytime you can sort of got it. If
Speaker 1: these teams have not learned.
Speaker 2: A little bit more hope for him than to just
Speaker 2: because he's not tiny, he's a real NFL body.
Speaker 4: I think they're about the same. I can check it.
Speaker 2: Six. I think who Ennix.
Speaker 4: He's like six two I'm checking.
Speaker 1: Uh oh god, six three two hundred. He does not
Speaker 1: look at he doesn't look at he doesn't play it.
Speaker 1: But they better not pay him.
Speaker 2: His knees have been operating around thirty seven times. He
Speaker 2: can't move.
Speaker 4: They better not pay Penix.
Speaker 1: It's fine to take it, take a shot, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just start looking for someone else. And that Taylor. He
Speaker 1: had almost three hundred yards in this game.
Speaker 4: That's we're doing. We're doing techmobile stuff.
Speaker 2: If he wasn't running like, there's no doubt. But if
Speaker 2: we didn't give it to Saque last year, he ain't gonna.
Speaker 4: Get it this year, he ain't gonna get it.
Speaker 1: But it's uh, he's locking up the what's the other board?
Speaker 1: The offensive player the year. Yeah, he's locked in that.
Speaker 1: He's already locked it up.
Speaker 2: That's done. Okay. Uh My Jags blew a golden opportunity
Speaker 2: to bury the Texans. They blew an unreal lead in
Speaker 2: the fourth and couldn't even get a field goal to
Speaker 2: win at the end. Look, Jackson's more is so fortunate
Speaker 2: to be one game about five hundred. BOYTL was awful again.
Speaker 2: There's no other way to stay it. I honestly don't
Speaker 2: have any clue long one what to do with this
Speaker 2: team week to week. And on the Texans side, Davis
Speaker 2: Mills was awful for three quarters and then magically in
Speaker 2: the fourth he turns into fucking Tom Brady. But I
Speaker 2: don't know how you bet either of these teams really.
Speaker 2: You know, if Houston was playing a team of the
Speaker 2: competent quarterback in an offense, in that game, they lose
Speaker 2: a game about forty.
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe maybe this one.
Speaker 2: Gets some overpriced for next week. Maybe we can hop
Speaker 2: back on a fate spot with Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Well it'll be oh on Jacksonville, No on Houston. Well
Speaker 1: it should be Shroud should be back next week.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean this offense stills even.
Speaker 1: It's got its issues for sure, But but again it's
Speaker 1: not it's not as future as it was in the
Speaker 1: first you know, five six weeks of the other season,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. It's you know, it's had, it's having
Speaker 1: its moments, especially now that that Nico is back. I mean,
Speaker 1: Nico was a monster and he's a monster no matter what.
Speaker 1: But you know, again, one of the rookies, one of
Speaker 1: the Iowa State rookies, well, combined, the Iowa State rookies
Speaker 1: had nine catches for seventy seven yards.
Speaker 4: And a touchdown. So they're they're, they're they're starting to
Speaker 4: show a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's I still like Huston, And
Speaker 1: I will just say, even though I'm having a terrible
Speaker 1: year overall with the handicapping picking every game, in some
Speaker 1: of the contests that I have, I'm I'm in the
Speaker 1: money on those, and I needed Houston. I was on
Speaker 1: Houston and all I needed was twenty six points in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, led it. And that's kind of how
Speaker 1: I figured it would go. If we're being like I
Speaker 1: just you know, I figured they would scuttle butt around
Speaker 1: and then and then blow up for half for a
Speaker 1: quarter of one hundred in the fourth quarters. So this
Speaker 1: Spanish genius.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was that was my biggest thing.
Speaker 1: But TL T L, Like, I was watching this game, dude,
Speaker 1: and he's missing.
Speaker 4: Both of them receiverts.
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas is out, Travis Hunter was out.
Speaker 2: That's not why I'm downgrading Jacksonville. Well, the reason why
Speaker 2: I'm downgrading Jacksonville more than I normally would. Their best
Speaker 2: unit the entire season has been their defense, Like that's
Speaker 2: what's got them to this position. They play really solid
Speaker 2: defense all year. This offense has been terrible all year.
Speaker 2: They blew a three score lead in the fourth quarter
Speaker 2: to a backup quarterback who we all know and have
Speaker 2: seen for years cannot play in this league and they
Speaker 2: blew that lead to that dude.
Speaker 1: Well he just did play in the league and won
Speaker 1: a game.
Speaker 2: So well that just shows you how like you have
Speaker 2: to downgrade this Jacksonville team. That defensive collapse in that game,
Speaker 2: and it's all on the defense, I understand the offense
Speaker 2: is and doing anything.
Speaker 4: Who cares?
Speaker 2: They never do, like, just go win the game on defense.
Speaker 2: It's Davis fucking Mills.
Speaker 1: You know what they say, If a backup quarterback wins
Speaker 1: one game in a season, he's earned his contract.
Speaker 4: If he wins two.
Speaker 1: Or three, oh yeah, lock him up for five years
Speaker 1: as so, like Davids Mills just for that one win,
Speaker 1: just bought himself three more years in the NFL. Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just how it works for backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You win a game in the NFL as a backup,
Speaker 1: as a Davis Mills, you just guaranteed NFL pension another
Speaker 1: three years of making whatever backup was it five million average?
Speaker 4: Probably that they make.
Speaker 1: So he literally just made him another fifteen million dollars
Speaker 1: in his career on that one win.
Speaker 4: So that's awesome.
Speaker 2: He's security his children's retirement on that way. To give
Speaker 2: up threes, like it would be different if it was
Speaker 2: tight the whole game. And he makes a play, you know,
Speaker 2: and the Jacksonville camp bake and play. No, they're down
Speaker 2: by three. They let up twenty six points in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. That's and I know the last one was defensive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was just whatever. Nineteen points. Yeah, you give me
Speaker 2: nineteen points.
Speaker 1: So they kick that points. I don't know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe they did, Maybe they did. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. You gave up eighteen points whatever, you
Speaker 2: gave up to a dead offense and a quarterback. Literally
Speaker 2: you can't play. I mean, he's had his time starting.
Speaker 2: We've seen that that and he looked like the same
Speaker 2: Davis Mills for three quarters like that game was over,
Speaker 2: the game was done, and all of a sudden it wasn't.
Speaker 1: So it's what he marks another another good game for
Speaker 1: what he marks, by the way, And I don't mean
Speaker 1: to brag but I did talk about him in the draft,
Speaker 1: went in the fifth round. I said, this is a
Speaker 1: kid that's gonna make a difference. He's pretty much taking
Speaker 1: that starting role. He got fourteen carries Nick Chubb, you
Speaker 1: got five. So that's another I'll tell you what for
Speaker 1: a team that's not gonna do anything this year, Houston Texans,
Speaker 1: they're four and five having it three rookies on your offense.
Speaker 1: What he marks the two and the two receivers? Look,
Speaker 1: you got you got some things to better on that.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I'm not a gem in NFL.
Speaker 1: I think maybe you should get some offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: That's just me.
Speaker 1: Great defense, young talent offense. I'm thinking going all in
Speaker 1: on offensive line in the offseason, get a couple of
Speaker 1: free agents, a couple of draft picks, and maybe protect
Speaker 1: your quarterback.
Speaker 4: That's just me.
Speaker 2: I mean you have to at this point because it's
Speaker 2: decision making time next year with straw So you got
Speaker 2: to decide whether he's you're gonna pay him or not.
Speaker 4: I think isn't he already paid? He's not paid yet?
Speaker 2: Oh, because he had the great rookie year of the
Speaker 2: ship year last year and then the ship year this year.
Speaker 2: This is only a third year. Okay, so, but I
Speaker 2: think to be fair to the kid, you gotta get
Speaker 2: him some help on the offensive line. Again, do I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be better than the average quarterback in
Speaker 2: this league? Probably not, but I do.
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm still a believer.
Speaker 1: I've you know, it's wavering, but I'm still travel believer.
Speaker 2: I think there's still a possibility. I think there's a
Speaker 2: good there's a possibility I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: So, and we we were seeing the slow growth of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this league kind of just this is like
Speaker 1: the golden age of the slow growth quarterback, you know,
Speaker 1: the same we just talked about Sam Darnald MVP.
Speaker 4: I mean, Jesus correct after.
Speaker 1: That Money Night game where he saw ghosts against New England.
Speaker 1: If he comes back and wins the MVP is this
Speaker 1: is not like this is a thirty for thirty. This
Speaker 1: is like one of the greatest stories. I'm not even kidding, Like,
Speaker 1: like from what he was as a as a as
Speaker 1: a rookie to what he's doing this.
Speaker 2: Year, even year the great Yere in Minnesota, and then
Speaker 2: we saw when it was nut cutting time when he
Speaker 2: faced a team with everything on the line, with the
Speaker 2: number one seed, Yes New York Jet Sam Darnald against
Speaker 2: Detroit and then immediately the playoffs terrible and gone for
Speaker 2: him just to bounce back even from that, to come
Speaker 2: back and do this again this year, which is that's
Speaker 2: the reason why I wasn't a big buyer on him,
Speaker 2: And Seattle's like, we're does this dude that? Mentally I
Speaker 2: know he had a great year, but then when it
Speaker 2: really came time to play, we saw the same old,
Speaker 2: same journal we'd always seen. How could he possibly bounce
Speaker 2: back from that? Well, he's fucking done it. He's been great,
Speaker 2: So kudos to him on this room. Uh. Speaking of
Speaker 2: unreal though, Jacksonville's collapse the Giants oh blew another huge
Speaker 2: fourth quarter lead to the Bears. Keep by the way,
Speaker 2: just keep on trucking towards the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Somehow this is this is a caveat, This is an
Speaker 1: astrisk though this one definitely astris.
Speaker 2: The reason why this is in the good though. Look,
Speaker 2: Longhorn and I both have coaches. This league will be low.
Speaker 2: Both have some we don't care for as much. Longhorn
Speaker 2: is not really a fan of me. The black head coaches.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what that's about.
Speaker 4: But maybe two, maybe two or three, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's I have to write it down.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I gonna have to have to brainstorm him. Now when
Speaker 1: there's there's there's at least one. There's at least one
Speaker 1: I hate.
Speaker 2: But there are very few that we hate. Again most
Speaker 2: of the Blacks long Horn.
Speaker 1: But for me, you hate Brian Daball. I've learned to
Speaker 1: accept the fact that he's not good.
Speaker 2: Hate No, I no, you don't have. I fucking hated
Speaker 2: Brian fatass Dabell. I've been saying for two years he
Speaker 2: should be fired.
Speaker 4: Obviously he got fired today.
Speaker 1: That's the news that the Brian Davill finally got fired
Speaker 1: today after a loss. Maybe you're getting maybe that's what
Speaker 1: you're building too. I don't understand the move now to
Speaker 1: do it. This makes no sense. He lost Jackson Dart
Speaker 1: in the game that were gonna win his game. If
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart says healthy, why do it now? I'm confused
Speaker 1: on why now?
Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm about to answer that. So I
Speaker 2: don't know why the Giants brought him back this year.
Speaker 2: I said last year, I said the preseason last year.
Speaker 2: My prediction was him, and him and Danny Dimes were
Speaker 2: gone done.
Speaker 4: To New York.
Speaker 2: I was one for two on that I should have
Speaker 2: been two for two if the Johns were smart whatever,
Speaker 2: but they brought him back. He made through half a season,
Speaker 2: but then the collapses to Dallas, Denver, and now Chicago,
Speaker 2: all of which he was over ninety five percent probability
Speaker 2: to win the game of late in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: The odds Longhorn for losing all three of those games
Speaker 2: is one in sixty thousand, which roughly equates to one
Speaker 2: and a half one thousandth of a percent. This is
Speaker 2: your chance that you have. He hit the most unlucky
Speaker 2: parlay literally of all fucking time. They got his fat
Speaker 2: ass fired. Look it's a good thing. I'm I'm fucking
Speaker 2: tired of the Giants sucking his organization. They used to
Speaker 2: be good. Jackson Dart looks like he's got a chance
Speaker 2: with the right hire to be something in this league.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm so happy that he's fired. I want
Speaker 2: the Giants to be a good organization again, just because
Speaker 2: I'm tired. I'm tired of betting under them. I'm just
Speaker 2: like I'm tired to Chicago sucking, Like, please, just get
Speaker 2: a better coach in here, get some talent around this
Speaker 2: young quarterback and see what they can fucking do. Like,
Speaker 2: you don't have to suck forever. It's not a life
Speaker 2: sentence in this league. It's not supposed to be. It's
Speaker 2: set up for parody. For Christ's sake, How do you
Speaker 2: suck every fucking year and LONGRN? I know you've been
Speaker 2: trying to pump the Johnson for years. I don't see
Speaker 2: how you're not excited. I know you weren't. You didn't
Speaker 2: hate Dave all. You liked him at one point.
Speaker 4: I learned.
Speaker 1: I learned to I saw enough over the last year
Speaker 1: and a half, after you've been rolling on for about
Speaker 1: three years that I was kind of But I did
Speaker 1: think that usually when you get the quarterback that you draft,
Speaker 1: usually that buys you some time, especially when he's playing. Well.
Speaker 1: That's that's why I don't.
Speaker 4: Care he's gone. Who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1: But like he should have.
Speaker 2: Been fired when they lost the Denver game, Like he
Speaker 2: should as soon as they landed in New York. He
Speaker 2: should have been fired that day.
Speaker 1: But Jackson Dart, I talked about Jackson Dart. It was
Speaker 1: a bad read on me because they didn't stop him.
Speaker 1: The two athletic linemakers could not stop him. He's still
Speaker 1: fucking He ran six times for sixty six yards and
Speaker 1: two shutdowns. Nobody can stop this dude's running game. And
Speaker 1: I and I again, I didn't watch him that much
Speaker 1: in college. I don't remember it being that much of
Speaker 1: a part of his.
Speaker 2: Game, not at all, miss no, because he didn't have
Speaker 2: to run wide open now. But in this game that
Speaker 2: did happen that I said was gonna happen, where the
Speaker 2: Bears are gonna fucking run, and they did. They ran
Speaker 2: and ran and ran and ran.
Speaker 1: So they did. But but I mean, they scored fourteen
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter after Russell Wilson came in,
Speaker 1: and it just you want to know, like that, that's
Speaker 1: the greatest way to see how good Dart is because
Speaker 1: they couldn't literally could not get a first down with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson like he is. It's so bad.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm excited about. I mean, I'm excited about
Speaker 2: firing because I hate the guy, but I'm more excited
Speaker 2: about the firing because now I think, like, Okay, Jack Start,
Speaker 2: he could actually be something in this league if we
Speaker 2: get the right head coach around him.
Speaker 1: Like, and you're gonna get You're gonna get off the
Speaker 1: neighbors back healthy next year year we'll see about Scattaboo.
Speaker 1: But they needed to get a secondary running back to
Speaker 1: go along with Scataboo anyways, and Tyrone Tracy is not it.
Speaker 1: So it gets them one dynamic and uh, obviously they
Speaker 1: got the pass rushers on defense.
Speaker 4: They need some more players over there on defense.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll say about this for the off season
Speaker 1: when when his team building mode. But good win by Chicago,
Speaker 1: you know, take advantage of a quarterback getting hurt. That's
Speaker 1: that's what in the snow. I don't know why they
Speaker 1: were losing necessarily, it's it's hard to explain. So so
Speaker 1: you know a six and three team in Chicago, who
Speaker 1: I'm actually looking for a good spots to fade.
Speaker 4: So they feel like a team to fade.
Speaker 2: I've been looking for a good spot to fade them.
Speaker 2: I just had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll come, I mean they look. We talked about C. J.
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson who they signed last week, made his debut
Speaker 1: nine tackles, two sacks, two tackles for a lot like
Speaker 1: it just that's a pretty good that's a pretty good
Speaker 1: debut for for a new team. So he'll be good.
Speaker 1: He'll be good for for a game or two, and
Speaker 1: then he will be exposed like just just like like
Speaker 1: a stripper on a dance floor. Like he he he
Speaker 1: will do this, like I even talked about it. When
Speaker 1: they sign him, he's gonna he's gonna have his amazing
Speaker 1: games and then he is gonna be like, Okay, how
Speaker 1: how do we get him out of here? He's terrible.
Speaker 1: He's bad in the locker room. But but congratulations, Chicago,
Speaker 1: you're six and three. I had them winning seven games
Speaker 1: this year. They're clearly gonna go over that.
Speaker 2: So congratulations, are your Philadelphia played? That's good?
Speaker 1: Three and nothing?
Speaker 2: Touchdown?
Speaker 1: Now three? Huh?
Speaker 4: Well they scored they score a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Smith thirty six touchdown.
Speaker 4: Okay, well you're ahead of me.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another sounder, right, didn't they have a sounder
Speaker 1: or that you did have a you.
Speaker 2: Had one, you know, plus two and a half of
Speaker 2: one unit on.
Speaker 4: The one t oh ship. That's a good one name.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a great way for the sounders.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, time to move on to the bad.
Speaker 2: Let's see, I had Baltimore first half minus two and
Speaker 2: a half had them a couple of contests. For the
Speaker 2: full game. They covered that, but they lost the first
Speaker 2: half by one. Baltimore just did not get their offense
Speaker 2: going all day. Really, Little JJ pretty much threw that
Speaker 2: game away from Minnesota in Minnesota at all. Which that
Speaker 2: was the part that was meaningful to me because I
Speaker 2: was the most interesting I thought about the podcast. I
Speaker 2: wasn't ready to back Baltimore with a lot of money,
Speaker 2: just because I wanted to see if this defense was
Speaker 2: really improved, could they stand up against this Minnesota running game.
Speaker 2: They did. MacArthur was the leading rusher. For Christ's sake,
Speaker 2: the Longhoorn, your vikings are dying on the vine, and
Speaker 2: our Ravens have won three in a row. So little
Speaker 2: little hope, Little hope there for the one side, Little
Speaker 2: uhy Nick towards the death blow to the other side.
Speaker 2: As the rest of the division continues to march, maybe
Speaker 2: not Green Bay tonight, but the other tea teams continue
Speaker 2: march on and Minnesota continues to go back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just he's he's he's playing like a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: which basically he is.
Speaker 2: So it's it's he wasn't terrible. I don't mean to
Speaker 2: kill the kid, but.
Speaker 4: I mean he wasn't great.
Speaker 1: It's just you.
Speaker 2: See actually yeah, one one touchdown too, But yeah, he
Speaker 2: was bad.
Speaker 1: He wasn't good, like I mean, and you do see something.
Speaker 1: You do see some flashes here and there. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're going to continue to build around next year. So
Speaker 1: you know, we'll get into what that looks like going
Speaker 1: to the next year. But you know, the defense, you
Speaker 1: talk about a jack on high defense. Like this is
Speaker 1: why minnesot is very hard to pick in.
Speaker 2: This game though, Like if you look at Baltimore's total,
Speaker 2: I mean Minnesota game Baltimore, that yard for playing Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Baltimore's offense was not good in this game. No, they
Speaker 2: took advantage of the turnois. Yeah, I can't even put
Speaker 2: this on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Derek currently three point eight three point in carry
Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry only four yards to carry for Lamar.
Speaker 2: More and half in the first half. Because again their offense,
Speaker 2: they scored nine points. They could not get going in
Speaker 2: the first half. They really didn't get going all fucking
Speaker 2: day until McCarthy put in a position to get some
Speaker 2: easy touchdowns.
Speaker 1: That was really about it, and this, this one kind
Speaker 1: of burned me on the on the every game contest.
Speaker 1: Is that because that line was at four and a
Speaker 1: half Minnesota and I suckered my way into the Minnesota
Speaker 1: side even though it did it close it at Uh
Speaker 1: what did it close at? And go back? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wanted to be on Baltimore. I talked to all week
Speaker 1: about wanting to be on Baltimore, and then just because
Speaker 1: the line was at four and a half, I tucked
Speaker 1: myself into doing Minnesota at home. And yeah, Lamar destroys
Speaker 1: NFC teams. Don't don't go against your fucking your staples.
Speaker 1: Your staples are they're there for a reason, like Josh
Speaker 1: Allen over seven points, don't do it, Lamar, NFC, don't
Speaker 1: go against it. It's just these these staples are there
Speaker 1: for a reason. Why I know that, I don't know
Speaker 1: why I don't do it. It just drives me crazy,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Longhorn Head San fran plus four and a half out
Speaker 2: of the client's two units in the danger zone. Danger
Speaker 2: zone lost five units in the pot this week.
Speaker 4: It was not so dangerous, not so dangerous.
Speaker 2: The number got up to six at one point, it
Speaker 2: closed at five and a half. Obviously the market knew something,
Speaker 2: and in full transparency, I was gonna tell this pic
Speaker 2: until I saw that movement come down. I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is happening? So I didn't back me
Speaker 2: off of it. And although the Bucks were in this
Speaker 2: was actually really it was a close game. Every time
Speaker 2: Sam Frank got in a position where they were one
Speaker 2: score away from the cover of the Rams would immediately
Speaker 2: go answer with the fucking touchdown. Stafford was awesome. He
Speaker 2: had whatever he wanted whenever he wanted it. Adams now
Speaker 2: is fully ingraded, integrateding this offense in the system. And
Speaker 2: again this team, along with Seattle long Horn, to me,
Speaker 2: they've separated themselves from the rest of the NFC that
Speaker 2: halfway marking the season. I don't know what you saw
Speaker 2: in this one, but man, well Rams are impressive. They're impressive.
Speaker 1: I mean I saw a little bit of a phony
Speaker 1: on this one. Yards per play total yards it was.
Speaker 2: It was a really close game. Yeah, so every that
Speaker 2: San fran just could not get. You know, like these
Speaker 2: games gonna go back and forth and eventually a team
Speaker 2: getna stop and then a score and now we're back
Speaker 2: within one score, and that's a football game. Every time
Speaker 2: they got within one score of just the cover just
Speaker 2: to get it back to the end the four half.
Speaker 2: Every single time the Rams went right down the field
Speaker 2: and answered, I mean, every time San Feran need to stop,
Speaker 2: they could not get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll just say I'll just say, well, a
Speaker 1: couple of things, because I actually watched this game pretty intensely,
Speaker 1: and I don't know what the numbers came out to,
Speaker 1: but the Rams and this three tight end set, which
Speaker 1: is kind of like I've never seen so many teams
Speaker 1: do three tight end sets this much movie, and it
Speaker 1: really is. And when we know that people's dig and
Speaker 1: zag and the NFL is kind of its kind of
Speaker 1: how things work, they three tight end this defense to
Speaker 1: fucking death. They had no answer for it. In the
Speaker 1: running game, Stafford was just fucking throwing darts. So so
Speaker 1: my takeaway is the three tight end set. Stafford is
Speaker 1: a fucking assassin, and I don't know what they shot
Speaker 1: him up with at the beginning of the year. You know, look,
Speaker 1: I had I got several ticket on the Rams, like
Speaker 1: I was on them before the back injury. Things settled
Speaker 1: in for for Stafford. I thought that was gonna deral
Speaker 1: the season. Why wouldn't we think that's gonna Derael seasons?
Speaker 1: He literally couldn't walk at the beginning of the season
Speaker 1: and he's playing like an MVP. So that's another takeaway.
Speaker 1: And then the third one is that, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't understand this line move. I
Speaker 1: don't understand it, much like the much like the Detroit thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why it was coming in on Washington.
Speaker 1: But at least with that one, the the stats all
Speaker 1: pointed like everything pointant is Detroit.
Speaker 4: During the game in this.
Speaker 2: One look jump, it was an even game and.
Speaker 1: Rams jumping fourteen nothing, and that was basically it that
Speaker 1: that was just basically if they didn't jump fourteen nothing,
Speaker 1: if it went back and forth to start the game,
Speaker 1: it would have been back and forth the entire game
Speaker 1: and then you probably land in in the cover with
Speaker 1: a three point win.
Speaker 2: It it was literally back and forth the whole game.
Speaker 2: Fourteen nothing and seven seven seven, seven, fourteen twelve, there's
Speaker 2: fourteen that they could not get past that fourteen nothing
Speaker 2: hole to get back in the car. Every time they
Speaker 2: were right their position.
Speaker 1: It was it was Stafford, and it would be Stafford
Speaker 1: just doing some he's so fucking good, Like I mean
Speaker 1: he is. I mean we talked with I mean, duh,
Speaker 1: everybody knows he's fucking good, but like he just just
Speaker 1: continues to show how fucking good he is.
Speaker 2: It's a nasty Brady on that broadcast, Like Brady was
Speaker 2: pulling out everything he sees, everything he's doing now every
Speaker 2: like you know, they had a good conversation during the week,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the games so slow. That the game is so
Speaker 1: slow for Stafford right now, like that that you're not
Speaker 1: gonna throw anything out and that he hasn't seen That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't throw roll down him on offense.
Speaker 1: Just like Brady late in his career, he would have
Speaker 1: games really on the score ten and thirteen points. Occasionally
Speaker 1: you can have something like that, but it's gonna be rare.
Speaker 2: So it's only because people don't execute. It's not because
Speaker 2: you confused him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's yes. The old line.
Speaker 1: The old line just can't block and you got you
Speaker 1: you just you start eating sacks and you just knows
Speaker 1: nothing you can do.
Speaker 4: It's it's not it's not because he's not standing it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of a sudden, you sail the ball goes
Speaker 2: over his head. It's picked off and that's gonna happens football. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's there's nothing you're gonna throw this do at this
Speaker 2: point he hasn't seen.
Speaker 1: And then McCaffrey twelve carries for thirty yards. That that
Speaker 1: Rams defense that you pooh food, That you pooh food
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 2: I know, but I said that on the podcast. The
Speaker 2: reason why I didn't like your pick for sant Fran
Speaker 2: is because McCaffrey did not grade out. Will said the
Speaker 2: week before against the Giants, you great out great. Anytime
Speaker 2: he doesn't great out, Will, it's hard for me to
Speaker 2: back to San Fran office.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: That's that's something to look that's something to definitely pay
Speaker 1: attention to going forward. But are you fine a believer
Speaker 1: on this Rams defense that I've been that I've been
Speaker 1: pimping out for about a year and a half.
Speaker 4: Now you coming around?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: They look great, man, They look fucking great. They you know,
Speaker 2: they look like again it if it ended up being them,
Speaker 2: and I don't know how it could be, but I
Speaker 2: guess it could. Through seating them in Seattle in the
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game, it would shock me and shocked me.
Speaker 1: A bit by the way. Speaking of we talked about
Speaker 1: the Dead Skins earlier in Emmanuel Forbes, who was a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick cornerback out of I can't remember
Speaker 1: actually what college got cut by the dead Skins. The
Speaker 1: Rams picked him up in the beginning of the at
Speaker 1: the in the off season as and they said, look
Speaker 1: out for this guy.
Speaker 4: MANA.
Speaker 1: Forbes is an absolute difference maker for the defense.
Speaker 4: He's about five nine, one hundred and sixty pounds.
Speaker 1: And that's why that was always the knocking I remember
Speaker 1: him now, Yeah, he was Jesus tiny, tiny, tiny frame.
Speaker 1: But that dude is bawling for the Rams and they
Speaker 1: love having them. You know, we talk of all the time.
Speaker 1: Good franchise, bad franchise. Did these just kind of the
Speaker 1: way these things go.
Speaker 2: Coaching man coaching, coaching coaching for sure. All right, last
Speaker 2: thing I got here, oh the Carolina Panthers. I don't
Speaker 2: even need to mention the spread on this one, because
Speaker 2: it's all about Survivor. Longhorn and four hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: other people in Circus Vivor put their faith in Bryce
Speaker 2: Young to win a football game for their Survivor lives suck.
Speaker 2: And not only did he not win, he got completely
Speaker 2: outplayed by I Suck Shuck. Bryan Shaan was seventeen for
Speaker 2: twenty five for one hundred and twenty four yards five
Speaker 2: yards per attempt, zero touchdowns, and a pick. And this
Speaker 2: same Carolina defense that literally went on the road and
Speaker 2: shut down the Green Bay Packers let I Suck Shuck
Speaker 2: throw for two hundred and eighty two yards at ten
Speaker 2: point four yards per attempt, more than a first down
Speaker 2: every time he let go of the ball, two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: no picks. And because this, because of this loss coupled
Speaker 2: with the bills, the eighteen million dollars pot for circusvivors
Speaker 2: now down to one thousand people and the Grandissimo, which
Speaker 2: was the hundred thousand dollars entry, is down Longhorned to
Speaker 2: six people. Oh my god, they're currently negotiating shopping the
Speaker 2: six point nine million dollars, So every single player that
Speaker 2: is left is walking away with over ten times their
Speaker 2: investment back. Now they'll do it some sort of tiered
Speaker 2: way where like next guy out only gets this, everybody
Speaker 2: there is getting over a million dollars. Like it's fucking crazy. Now,
Speaker 2: Longhorn has tried to defend his boy young since about
Speaker 2: week fifteen last year. He just said they were his
Speaker 2: panthers again on the podcast last week. Now, I got it.
Speaker 4: That's your q Q right there.
Speaker 2: Well do the unthinkable and lose to the worst team
Speaker 2: in football at home.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, and I know you were taking it there,
Speaker 1: but you're playing my emotions right now.
Speaker 4: Smoking. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's gonna be certain spots. Obviously I'll still
Speaker 1: play on Carolina because this was all Bryce Young. The
Speaker 1: defense played okay, like there was some look jac Horn,
Speaker 1: I watched his game very intendly, you know, obviously knocked
Speaker 1: me out of Survivors.
Speaker 4: So I definitely had it on one of the three
Speaker 4: TVs j C.
Speaker 1: Horn on defense. And I hate Nate picking because this
Speaker 1: is all about Bryce Young. But I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck Jase Horn was doing playing cornerback.
Speaker 2: He was I mean, I suck shuck through for that
Speaker 2: was the best yards per temp number of the entire weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a couple of bombs. It was defense,
Speaker 1: And you wonder how close this is, how like things
Speaker 1: switched so fascinating because like it well, I don't know
Speaker 1: about the I don't know what the second mom but
Speaker 1: one of the bomb plays to the tight end.
Speaker 4: He literally could have been sacked two or three.
Speaker 1: Times, and he shucked fucking shucked his way out of
Speaker 1: it somehow, and he and he found a wide upen
Speaker 1: guy because the defensive players had left, had left him.
Speaker 1: But just Bryce Young, remember we were talking about, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand Bryce Young's body language. He is the worst,
Speaker 1: the worst body language quarterback in the NFL. He has
Speaker 1: no emotion. He's fucking deadpan. He doesn't fire people, Oh
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't get he doesn't get mad at people,
Speaker 1: he doesn't get happy with people.
Speaker 4: He is the worst.
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, yeah, I'll still bet on them if
Speaker 1: it's the right spot. There's still five and five, and
Speaker 1: usually at home is their sweet spot seeing it and
Speaker 1: usually at home is their sweet spot. But oh god,
Speaker 1: he fucked me. But I will say this. They couldn't run.
Speaker 1: They couldn't. I mean they all I.
Speaker 4: Kept saying was like, just run the fucking ball.
Speaker 1: Just hand it off, dubtell who's going for like one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards every fucking game. Eighteen carries fifty
Speaker 1: three yards. I guess New Orleans what? But yeah, this
Speaker 1: is how, this is how you get a lot of
Speaker 1: people knock out and survival on something like this.
Speaker 4: It's just I don't know NFL.
Speaker 2: New Orleans, by the way, good, he says, all Bright
Speaker 2: strong on. It was all shocked for New Orleans. New
Speaker 2: Orleans running game poodle poop poop three point three yards
Speaker 2: per attempt through the whole team Camaro, he had eighty
Speaker 2: three yards on twenty two fucking attempts. Three point eight.
Speaker 2: They couldn't run the ball. They couldn't New Ship hit
Speaker 2: along with sixteen. It was literally all we gotta come
Speaker 2: up with the name of the is the suckle the
Speaker 2: suckle shuffle? What do we get?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: All I know is there were empty beer cans being
Speaker 1: thrown across the room at my house because this is
Speaker 1: just when I see a team that is a dominant
Speaker 1: running game and they can't They're getting three yards in
Speaker 1: a cloud of dust against this fucking sorry Devans, I
Speaker 1: was getting so fucking men. And yeah, and the only
Speaker 1: reason I played Carolina is because you know, once you
Speaker 1: get to this time of the year, you you really
Speaker 1: should start playing out the whole year from the beginning.
Speaker 4: But certainly when we get to this point of the
Speaker 4: year and survivor you've.
Speaker 1: Got to plan out, you know, you plan out your year.
Speaker 1: And I and I went through and plan out all
Speaker 1: the weeks and I needed Seattle badly and in one
Speaker 1: of the other weeks coming up, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: we could play the Free Spot the Free Square now
Speaker 1: in Seattle, for sure. But if we want to win
Speaker 1: this thing, we we we gotta, you know, we gotta
Speaker 1: play card, we gotta. But now we're fucking done and
Speaker 1: we're out of it. And uh, I hate you from
Speaker 1: every Brice Young, although I will still I will still
Speaker 1: bet on.
Speaker 4: You in a certain Spots player in the year for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh that's all I wanted to hear that you hate
Speaker 2: him forever. No, between them and Buffalo, they fucked so
Speaker 2: many people. In fact, they in the Grandismo there's only
Speaker 2: one guy because there was there was only ten people
Speaker 2: left going in. There was only one guy that was
Speaker 2: on buff or sorry, one guy on Carolina. Four people
Speaker 2: on Buffalo, which the much better pick. Obviously, you're nine
Speaker 2: and a half point fucking favorites and you have Josh Allen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: bat spat blah blah blah. But surely Josh Allen's gonna
Speaker 2: win that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the most knocked out.
Speaker 2: So now you're down to six. Could you imagine me
Speaker 2: sitting there, one of the six people left, and you're
Speaker 2: staring at six point nine million dollars and now you're
Speaker 2: all on the phone with your lawyers talking about shopping.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not You're probably not going to work
Speaker 1: Monday morning. You're probably like, hey, let's, uh, let's take
Speaker 1: some some paid days if.
Speaker 2: You had one hundred thousand invest into a survivor.
Speaker 4: But how hard that's true? In the first place, that's true.
Speaker 1: You're you're just to defer all your phone calls to, uh,
Speaker 1: just the next person.
Speaker 2: Inland Becky, Becky take taking on this ship.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a great spot to be in.
Speaker 4: Sucks that I'm out.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll still talk about survivors going forward, because like
Speaker 1: this is getting like I mean, really at that point,
Speaker 1: is it gonna last like maybe two more weeks?
Speaker 2: Probably? Well we got a thou three left. Well, there's
Speaker 2: a thousand people leving the big contest.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the need, don't they say like a
Speaker 1: like a like twenty percent go out each week, So
Speaker 1: like so like maybe like twenty or thirty percent go
Speaker 1: out each week. So you're looking at about four maybe
Speaker 1: five weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we yeah, maybe around Thanksgiving this year, because in
Speaker 2: that contest, Thanksgivings two weeks, so I don't know how
Speaker 2: many is gonna be left in mine. I think we're
Speaker 2: at seven were it's like seven to twenty to start
Speaker 2: the week. I know at least thirty percent of the
Speaker 2: people were on Carolina, so that's gonna be a good chunk.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how many other bills, but it'll
Speaker 2: be a good chunk. Probably lose about half of mine too,
Speaker 2: so I should be looking at about three hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty four undred people maybe somewhere around in there. Let's
Speaker 2: see if we can keep on moving on. Uh, speaking
Speaker 2: of moving on, let's move on to the Are you
Speaker 2: fall fucking kidding me? Now? This one? I got it.
Speaker 2: It's pretty weak for this week, but that's not usually
Speaker 2: a bad thing. But I did lose my under on
Speaker 2: the Jets and Browns. I said, we did luck out
Speaker 2: and win the union of the plus two, But my god,
Speaker 2: what a fuck job on this under. I just wanted
Speaker 2: to say this out loud. This is a real thing
Speaker 2: that happened in life. The Jets scored fourteen points, and
Speaker 2: that time they had fourteen points. They had negative net
Speaker 2: two yards on offense, negative net two yards, and yet
Speaker 2: they put fourteen points on the board.
Speaker 4: Well, it was pretty early in the game, was it not.
Speaker 2: Look yeah, it was the first It was the first quarter.
Speaker 2: In the second quarter, had the kickoff return and the
Speaker 2: punt return.
Speaker 4: Oh, it was all the way to the second quarter.
Speaker 4: All right, that's fair then.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So for every yard they lost they scored
Speaker 2: a touchdown. For every yard they lost, they scored touchdown.
Speaker 4: Sounds like good, good, complimentary football to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They had seventeen points in the half with a total
Speaker 2: of sixty two yards, which they got all sixty four
Speaker 2: of those other yards to make up the net negative
Speaker 2: two on their only sustained drive of the first half,
Speaker 2: and it ended in a field goal.
Speaker 1: Shocker.
Speaker 2: Now, the Jets had. The Browns had four yards per
Speaker 2: play for the game. The Jets had three point six.
Speaker 2: There is no fucking way this game should have even
Speaker 2: made it into the thirties, much less damn near fifty.
Speaker 2: And if you want any evidence of that, the combined
Speaker 2: score for the second half, which Longhoord knows is always
Speaker 2: the highest scoring half in the NFL games thirteen points.
Speaker 2: Thirteen points. This game should have been eighteen to ten Browns. Again,
Speaker 2: at least the luck got us to split here. But
Speaker 2: my god, this Jets offense is a fucking joke. There's
Speaker 2: a joke without a proper spot like this, which is
Speaker 2: a great spot to play him. I don't I don't
Speaker 2: know how, I don't know how you've been on the scene,
Speaker 2: because they are beyond awful on offense, beyond like unconscionably bad.
Speaker 2: Well there as bad on offense as Carolina was last
Speaker 2: year for the you know that good stretch where how
Speaker 2: do you in bet this team? Because they literally can't
Speaker 2: score the ball. They can't move the ball, they can't
Speaker 2: run the ball, can't pass the ball, they can't do this.
Speaker 2: Where the Jets are now, they cannot do anything anything.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's with one of the more impressive
Speaker 1: young black coaches in the league. And if you haven't
Speaker 1: heard me say this before, Aaron Glenn definitely not a
Speaker 1: DEEI higher at all, Like this guy earned his way
Speaker 1: to head coach because remember how good that Detroit defense
Speaker 1: has been for the last two or three years, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lots of lights out defense. And
Speaker 1: he took bad lights.
Speaker 2: They're actually they're actually excellent. Now that's what's been carri So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was such just an ass whooping
Speaker 2: for me like that that game again, happy we got
Speaker 2: to win on the plus two.
Speaker 1: But usually if you get one kick return or defensive
Speaker 1: return touchdown, you're over as fucked. If you get two,
Speaker 1: you're so proper fucked. It's not even.
Speaker 2: Actually, when the total was thirty eight.
Speaker 4: That's like a third of it right there, more.
Speaker 1: Than a third.
Speaker 2: It was seventeen seventeen and a half. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: they only need wont score. I'm fucked. And then I
Speaker 2: didn't even look at the games. I was driving. The
Speaker 2: next time I stopped like a gas station. The third
Speaker 2: core was over and it was still seventeen seventeen. I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I'm still fucked, but this is amazing
Speaker 2: that they through a whole quarter and nobody scored, because
Speaker 2: why would they score, because both these offenses are fucking horrendous.
Speaker 2: All right, boys and girls, that was the good, the bad,
Speaker 2: and the hard.
Speaker 3: You fucking't get it, all.
Speaker 2: Right, sign up for some look ahead, y'all. The lines
Speaker 2: looking ahead to week eleven, if this thing will loode Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, Longhorn, anything tickling your fancy obviously, first bet
Speaker 2: has to be the Jets plus eleven and a half
Speaker 2: against the Patriots.
Speaker 4: Where are they? Oh god, Thursday night?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, if you haven't learned your lesson yet, you
Speaker 1: don't bet against the Patriots. It's just why would you ever?
Speaker 1: If there's ever like just the say it out loud better.
Speaker 2: I mentioned the game. I'm sorry. I had it written down.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, that was the best game of the of
Speaker 1: the day. But yeah, drink just real quickly. We can
Speaker 1: recap that one, Drake May.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was a loss for me, the climb. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I had it written down somehow skipped over. I had
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay minus two. It was a spot play for me.
Speaker 2: The numbers grade out for Tampa to win by four,
Speaker 2: not a huge margin, but still.
Speaker 4: Could have could have gone.
Speaker 1: It could have been some Baker magic, but Baker's just
Speaker 1: not going to be the same without the running back
Speaker 1: and two receivers that that.
Speaker 4: It's just they're not quite the same there. I will
Speaker 4: say this though, the score was fun.
Speaker 2: Now, the Patriots deserve to win the game, so I'll
Speaker 2: take the loss. I'm not saying that, but there was
Speaker 2: a there was an opportunity for me to win that game,
Speaker 2: for sure, but it was do these pains. And I
Speaker 2: know I had all this written down, don't know what
Speaker 2: what happened to, but I wrote down literally like this
Speaker 2: Patriot team is now finding ways to win games even when, uh,
Speaker 2: they're not on their best game. Because Drake Maye, I mean,
Speaker 2: he was good, but he did throw a pick. But
Speaker 2: Travion Hinder That's what I wrote down. I bought Travon
Speaker 2: Henderson explodes one hundred and forty seven or ten point
Speaker 2: ten and a half yards is fucking carry just kick
Speaker 2: into the house state. I like it more than the
Speaker 2: judge's kid. I think they're both probably gonna be really good.
Speaker 2: But man, this this Patriots team, it looks and feels
Speaker 2: more like the older Patriots teams where they just find
Speaker 2: a different way of trying to recall my notes, they
Speaker 2: find a different way every week. It seems like to
Speaker 2: beat you instead of getting beat which is what they've
Speaker 2: been doing for the last four years.
Speaker 1: Well that's what good that's what good coaching does. And
Speaker 1: the two things from this game that I would mention
Speaker 1: is the call and the clock management of the coach.
Speaker 1: Why am I forgetting that rabel for New England to
Speaker 1: burn a play down at the goal line.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that was balls and.
Speaker 1: It took a fourth down throw by Drake May to
Speaker 1: bail his ass out. Now, great catch all, Yeah, all
Speaker 1: that's true. But I think in theory, whether it worked
Speaker 1: or not, I think that's the that's very analytical in
Speaker 1: advanced thinking way. So I kind of support that because
Speaker 1: he got the two for one. He knew he's getting
Speaker 1: the ball coming out of halftime, so they got the
Speaker 1: touchdown there, the touchdown in the second half. That's literally
Speaker 1: it that that was like the whole game. Second point
Speaker 1: it the beginning of this game. It was rainy, not
Speaker 1: a downpour, but it was rainy and Drake May could
Speaker 1: not complete a pass.
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, package that stay there for the future.
Speaker 1: Even Tony Romo mentioned it, like like Jim, they're in
Speaker 1: trouble here. Drake May has struggled with with his rain. Oh,
Speaker 1: Jim in this rain it's a problem. So if there's
Speaker 1: a rain game, like maybe they play Seattle or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the case would be. If it's a rainy there's
Speaker 1: gonna be weather, so like this is something to watch,
Speaker 1: It's just something to watch. I don't know. He was
Speaker 1: he looked so bad when it was raining, and then
Speaker 1: the rain stopped and he and he was fine after that.
Speaker 1: So just just package that for the future.
Speaker 2: Your boy Boca did write this down to another monster game.
Speaker 2: I mean, this kid is he's now the odds unfavorite
Speaker 2: offensive rookie of the year. That's dark Dart's pretty close though.
Speaker 4: Well that's true. Well yeah, the quarterback.
Speaker 2: And they're one and two on the odds. Yeah, it'll
Speaker 2: it'll have to be Tampa Bay going. It'll be because
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay wins the division would be the reason why
Speaker 2: he would win it and the Giants Arbuser falling into
Speaker 2: the fucking nether worlds. But yeah, that I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll take the loss. The Patriots deserve to win. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that I got it. Wasn't a bad beat
Speaker 2: or anything like that. I'm not saying that, but at
Speaker 2: least at least in that we had a chance at
Speaker 2: the end. So whatever, Sometimes you lose games like that.
Speaker 2: But man, I will say this talk about Poopoo and
Speaker 2: the Jets and betting on the Patriots these This has
Speaker 2: been a little bit of trend. I've been following and
Speaker 2: I won a couple of games on it lately. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I wasn't on the Raiders this Thursday
Speaker 2: fell right into this. He's over touchdown dogs on Thursday night.
Speaker 2: In Division. They've been red hot. I don't think they've
Speaker 2: lost the game all year. So something upon her.
Speaker 1: You know better. The Jets, I don't think you are.
Speaker 1: I think you are so looking ahead.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of games that stand up early before
Speaker 1: we are actually getting to you know, some of the
Speaker 1: diving into some of the handicaping. But the free squares
Speaker 1: back on the board. You got Houston Tennessee plus seven
Speaker 1: at home. That's the free square on Houston. Stroud should
Speaker 1: be back, should be back. So I'm always gonna look
Speaker 1: to to bet against Tennessee. They're the free square.
Speaker 2: Think I'm pretty sure I have Houston left there you go.
Speaker 1: Now, that would be Oh, if Tennessee beats you, that's
Speaker 1: you'll be throwing You'll be throwing beer cans. That's true.
Speaker 1: That is true. Baltimore, excuse me, Cleveland at home? Catch
Speaker 1: an eight Division game this is back in their sweet spot.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm gonna be on it. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm not gonna be on it. But that's that's
Speaker 1: back in their wheelhouse. Cowboys on the road. They're getting
Speaker 1: a lot of players back healthy, not not just the
Speaker 1: additions that they made with the trades. They're getting some
Speaker 1: healthy players coming back over over street and who I'm
Speaker 1: missing there's there's a secondary player coming back healthy to.
Speaker 4: Over shown at linebacker.
Speaker 1: They're getting a secondary player back to this I'm having
Speaker 1: a brain part, but could be different looking defense.
Speaker 2: So they're looking at okay, let's.
Speaker 1: Oh, the rookie, the rookie cornerback they draft in the
Speaker 1: second round, sorry him overshown And then they and then
Speaker 1: the trades they made before.
Speaker 2: That, they're going to go to a five. They're basically
Speaker 2: going to the bear front. Now you've got Now, you've
Speaker 2: got clowny they didn't have. You've got the Diggie Zua.
Speaker 2: He's been kind of middling again this year. You got
Speaker 2: the other free agent they brought in defensive are they
Speaker 2: traded for the defensive tackle. He's been kind of middling
Speaker 2: this year again. But then you got you've got Solomon.
Speaker 4: Thomas and and Quincyway.
Speaker 2: Now Quincy Williams. So now this is a completely different
Speaker 2: defensive line than what we started the year from for Dallas.
Speaker 2: Five man Bear front Well and and the rookie anyway,
Speaker 2: the rookie from Boston College.
Speaker 1: He's yeah, well that his real name, but it's close enough.
Speaker 1: He's starting to starting to he We'll say this for
Speaker 1: another time, but all the rookie pass rushers are not
Speaker 1: getting sacks. It's a weird thing. Rocky's only got two
Speaker 1: carter for the Giants. I think he's maybe he's up
Speaker 1: to two or three now.
Speaker 2: He's still the odds on he was every defensive of
Speaker 2: the year just because of the pressure numbers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're getting good. They're they're not getting home yet.
Speaker 1: But this this that can happen with the rookies. But yeah,
Speaker 1: look out for the Cowboys. I'm not saying that they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like I mean, obviously they're probably not gonna
Speaker 1: make the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I don't know what their odds are.
Speaker 1: I think it's like ten percent to make the playoffs
Speaker 1: or something something like that, but they could look very different.
Speaker 1: Just something to look for, and then what else have
Speaker 1: we got. We talked about Cleveland.
Speaker 2: How about the fact that the Dolphins are now three
Speaker 2: point favorites.
Speaker 1: Ass that feels a little rich that Now that's probably
Speaker 1: back on on a Redskins spot, but they are the
Speaker 1: dead Skins, so I don't know about that. The game
Speaker 1: of the week has to be one of the game
Speaker 1: of the weeks. It's gotta be the Tampa Bay Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: What an interesting game Buffalo talked about they don't look
Speaker 1: right Tampa Bay coming off a loss. Man, I want
Speaker 1: to I wanted to be all on Tampa Bay there.
Speaker 1: That's true. That is sure is that that I usually
Speaker 1: like one team gonna loss. That that's getting a good number.
Speaker 1: But we'll see who's coming back for for Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: I mean like at some point Bucky Ever's got to
Speaker 1: come back. I mean, I didn't think it's gonna take
Speaker 1: this long. So I'm interested in Tampa Bay. There.
Speaker 2: Steelers are really laying five and a half to anyone?
Speaker 4: Where are they at? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Those Cincinnai Bungles and Mungoles.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little I've got When with
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers name comes up, I get a little bit
Speaker 1: of a throw up that comes into my mouth that
Speaker 1: they I can't tell you evy times they've beat me
Speaker 1: at get it catching three and a half this year, Like,
Speaker 1: that's that's there. If they're if the Steelers are getting
Speaker 1: three and a half, stay away, don't bet them. They're
Speaker 1: gonna burn you. They're gonna fuck you. You think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep it within three, they won't.
Speaker 2: It's just just that game was so close for so
Speaker 2: long and I just literally got away from him in
Speaker 2: the second half.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 2: Vikings Bears. I'm interested in that. Vikings three points me.
Speaker 4: That's a good line.
Speaker 1: That that that that's a good way, that's a good
Speaker 1: number to say that because you want to be on
Speaker 1: or least at least me personally. I talked about early
Speaker 1: the podcasts. I want to be fading the Bears. I'm
Speaker 1: looking to fade them, you know at three that that
Speaker 1: makes it hard to bet on Minnesota though from what
Speaker 1: you've seen from them. So my initial reaction is is
Speaker 1: is Minnesota, But I've got to dig into some trends
Speaker 1: and some all that all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Two and a half a heritage, so but it's juice
Speaker 2: it's pretty much flat three across the board. So we'll
Speaker 2: see where the money, see where the market pushes that when.
Speaker 2: I'll be interesting to see that. And then your Panthers
Speaker 2: back their usual dog spot. But only three and a
Speaker 2: half points at the Falcons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's on the road.
Speaker 2: That's that's you know, kind of feels like a Falcons blowout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rice Bryce Young does not play well on the road.
Speaker 1: And oh god, they're five and five in the last
Speaker 1: three and six. These teams should be the same, they're
Speaker 1: like the same team like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll dig into it. We'll do it on Thursday, all right.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think the game of the week honestly is
Speaker 2: ram Seahawks. We just talked.
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is the game.
Speaker 1: Points banged right at three, that's got that's a Seahawks number.
Speaker 1: That's a Seahawks number to start, because you're not getting
Speaker 1: if you think these teams are equal, which I don't
Speaker 1: know how you can think they're not at this point,
Speaker 1: there's got to be equal teams.
Speaker 4: You're not getting home fields, not three.
Speaker 1: Points, certainly not three points in a division game. So
Speaker 1: to me, the value is on Seattle. They're at initial.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's a Juice three, so not a
Speaker 1: not a legit three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's two and a half across the board.
Speaker 2: That pretty much every book but all like minus or more.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can get you can get an expensive
Speaker 2: two and a half or cheap three.
Speaker 1: Well Chief three if you're on the Rams, and a
Speaker 1: very expensive.
Speaker 2: Chief three cheap Seahawks. Yeah, I don't man, that's gonna
Speaker 2: be one of those. I'm I'm really interested thinking in
Speaker 2: that game for sure. We'll see how that happens. Then
Speaker 2: you got your sad friend, your bounce back spot. It's
Speaker 2: been the money spot all year. They're fucking only laying
Speaker 2: two and a half at Arizona.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's their spot. That is their spot.
Speaker 1: They're a good team, you know. I'm gonna listen to
Speaker 1: you and see what the breakdown is on McCaffrey and
Speaker 1: howling grades out against the deepense. Yeah, so we'll see,
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