WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:31.199 Well we are here. 2 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:35.439 Welcome everyone live here from the Gray Cup. We're here 3 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:39.079 in Vancouver. I got Jason and Andy here, Evan, we'll 4 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:40.960 touch with all that. Let me set the stage here 5 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:45.679 live today Media Row, Gray Cup one eleven in Vancouver Downtown. 6 00:00:46.159 --> 00:00:48.960 Please like and subscribe huge guest list today. 7 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:50.880 You guys know we do this every year. I got 8 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.759 my Cogan already standing by with the argos. Dave Nailers 9 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.759 coming by. We've got Greg Sarah Tello. We've got Ron Peterson. 10 00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:58.359 A lot of activity here. 11 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:00.960 I think my MIC's okay, were up and sounds weird? 12 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:05.799 Andy and Evan, Uh sorry, we had a couple of 13 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:06.799 most as the Bregford ship. 14 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:07.959 We got Andy and Jason here. 15 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.599 Evan was supposed to be here in the route. He 16 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:13.439 will be flying here. We'll see him tonight. Jason, Andy, 17 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:14.200 how are you guys doing? 18 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:14.959 I'm doing good. 19 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:17.519 Read It's great to be here at great Cup once 20 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.599 again and now ready for a great show. 21 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:21.879 Yeah, I'll do already ask you how many times have 22 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.159 you guys been on the slide behind you yet? But 23 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:27.519 you see Family Fund activities here. We'll set the stage 24 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:29.760 non activities here before we bring our first guess in 25 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:31.079 Andy it. 26 00:01:31.079 --> 00:01:32.920 Last night, Andy and I we spent time with the 27 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:33.799 team tech corners. 28 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:37.079 Dorothy's stand by here and Jason's girlfriend as well, and 29 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:38.400 he you haven't played in Vancouver. 30 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:40.840 I have to say I never thought I'd be broadcasting 31 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:43.200 in front of a obstacle course, but you know, there's 32 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:45.680 the first time for everything, right. I absolutely love being here. 33 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.359 Been wanting to come to Vancouver all my life. I'm 34 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:50.359 not excited to be here, and to be here for 35 00:01:50.400 --> 00:01:51.879 such a fantastic event. 36 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:54.040 I love this festival. Yeah, it's like I said, so 37 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:55.840 said the stage kind of fluid today. 38 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.400 Everyone knows I posted the guest list already a lot 39 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.599 of activity here. Yeah, we got Evan excuse me, Jason, 40 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.680 Andy here, My Coogan's coming by, Jared Davis, Dan Ralph 41 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:07.480 pull this Fluid, we'll see what we do. Jim Mullen 42 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.319 stopping by. We finally got nail or schedule to just 43 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:12.639 all if you're watching this oppit. In fact, I'll put 44 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:14.840 time codes on so you can jump around that Baker's 45 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:17.000 standing vibe and it should be fun today. Little Fluid 46 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:18.639 will be here for about two and a half hours. 47 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:21.479 So hope you guys enjoy. Jason, you guys were walking 48 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:24.960 around today, a lot of activities. Rainy today, was sunny yesterday, 49 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.800 but we got ziplines, we got the Bailey Funds in here. 50 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:30.159 What do you pretty spectacular? I know we were in 51 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:31.479 your hometown last year for Hamilton. 52 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:34.280 Yeah, it's definitely a step up from Hamilton last year. 53 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:36.560 One thing that stands out, and me and Andy were 54 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:38.960 talking before the show is the amount of zip lines. 55 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:41.400 I got a couple of zip lines down here inside 56 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:43.639 and then outside in the rain. You got a couple 57 00:02:43.719 --> 00:02:46.639 down there across the harbor. And it's a really cool 58 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.719 experience just seeing everybody out. It's been a great turnout 59 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:52.240 so far, and yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing 60 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:53.360 how the rest of the weekend goes. 61 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.879 Andy, we went through the team headquarters last night. We 62 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:57.879 were at the Atlantic Schooners. We were at the VC 63 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:01.240 Lions Dead, We went over to a lot of alcohol 64 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:01.800 is consumed. 65 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:02.439 Did you have fun? 66 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:04.199 Why did you make Team Edwar as your first time? 67 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.919 We were Rick Campbell walking around. I think we'll talk 68 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.599 about that today. Rick Campbell's feature be SIGNEDO McAvoy. Thoughts 69 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:11.759 on what you've seen so far? 70 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.280 Well, first of all, to Jason's point, where's our zipline. 71 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:16.879 How can we don't have one coming down to the booth. 72 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:18.400 We couldn't get that away and bring the guests and 73 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:20.479 bring Mike Coagan in with the zipline. That would be 74 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.360 I would like to see that. Yeah, But no, really 75 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:26.199 lovely city. Just a lot of activity. 76 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.879 Again, just the throngs of people that I've seen in 77 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:30.840 the last twenty four. 78 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:32.240 Hours and all the different jerseys. 79 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:34.479 Like I said, I don't think I've really been quite 80 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.479 to an event like this. I've been to a lot 81 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:40.560 of conventions where a lot of different other niches sports related. 82 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:43.680 I don't think I've quite seen the camaraderie like I've 83 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:45.879 seen here with all the different fans, the different jerseys, 84 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:49.280 the different kinds of people. I cannot count on my 85 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:51.479 hand the number of times that someone said hello to 86 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:52.639 you and Dorothy last night. 87 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:54.919 I mean just just streams of people. 88 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:57.680 I mean random people that I think I tried to 89 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.919 keep up with, you know, your whole media exposures and 90 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:03.479 everybody you talked to in the kit and media sphere. 91 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:06.080 But I did not expect all the fans that said 92 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:07.000 hello to you last night. 93 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:08.479 I was really taking it back by that, and that's 94 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:11.360 really just a really warm feeling to have in an 95 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:12.800 otherwise cold and rainy city. 96 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:14.159 That's the beauty of Great Cup. 97 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.680 Man, No, it's really been nice and like just even 98 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:18.759 to the center stage here, there's two halves of this 99 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.639 convention center. This is totally unique this year to be 100 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:25.000 C were at the McLaren Gills auto row here, a 101 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:27.319 media row. I'll give the plug sponsor here when we 102 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.480 bring in Mike Hogan. But they've put all this on. 103 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.279 There's field goal kicking and there's been plenty of bounty houses. 104 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.120 There's an indoors zip line, there's outdoors zip line, you know, 105 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:37.800 compared to even the last year in Hamilton. And I'll 106 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:40.439 tell you the team parties last year in Hamilton were often, 107 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:43.920 I mean really spectacular, but just a lot more this year, 108 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:46.079 I think Amar Doman and the rest of BC, right, 109 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:47.720 I mean, Jason, can you speak to that just and 110 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:49.639 you've been obviously more Great Cups than Andy and I 111 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:51.959 have just the breadth of activities. 112 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:52.000 We have going on. 113 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:55.800 Yeah, I think just like the way I would describe 114 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.240 it is they spared no expense for this Great Cup. 115 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.839 I mean, you know, look at the halftime show, what 116 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:03.600 they go out for Sunday. I'm sure Jonas Brothers weren't cheap. 117 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:05.959 You know, there's just so much to do and it 118 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.720 really feels like when you walk around. We took the 119 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.439 train here from our airbnb, like just seeing the advertising 120 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:14.720 and the presence of the Lions and the Great Cup 121 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:18.160 Festival this week in Vancouver. It's really a special time. 122 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:20.160 And this is actually my first time going to Vancouver, 123 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:21.160 and I'm very impressed. 124 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:21.920 Yeah, it's beautiful. 125 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:23.639 I see Jamie and I sure already he's not off 126 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:25.160 for a love that Jamie and I sand I should 127 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.279 be fun here. Maybe Dorothy can started getting Mike Cogan 128 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:29.360 over here. She's payned attention. We'll bring him on in 129 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.879 a minute, Like I said, like and subscribe, get us 130 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.759 over four thousand subscribers, trying to give away. I saw 131 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.120 Dustin with Royal Retros last night. He was at the 132 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:40.680 CFLPA party. We went by Andrew Pearson was there, a 133 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:43.720 lot of CFL players, friends of the show. But Dustin 134 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:45.959 is going to be given away a custom CFL and 135 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.199 UFL jersey to any of our listeners when we get 136 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:49.240 four thousand subscribers. 137 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:50.120 We'll do a couple of those. 138 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:51.839 But it was nice to catch up with him last 139 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:53.759 night as well, just because I mean the last time 140 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.040 we saw Dustin and everyone knows oryld Retros if you're 141 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:58.000 in the any of this alternative lea, that was Birmingham, 142 00:05:58.040 --> 00:05:58.759 what three years ago? 143 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.040 Yeah it was no two years ago, but almost three 144 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:05.040 years still. Yeah, the last time we saw him, we 145 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.199 were trying to film our set up through a potato 146 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:10.439 essentially without how many people were in the area. I 147 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.360 remember the the stream. The stream was really fun. It 148 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.959 was great though, and I love meeting Dustin h I 149 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:19.480 love I mean, Rural Retros is obviously a fantastic just 150 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:21.399 set up with all the different kinds of jerseys and 151 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.399 outfits that they have on that site. And he was very, 152 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:26.199 very charming last time we got to talk to him, 153 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:27.360 so I'm excited to see him again. 154 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:29.279 Yeah, so we're gonna bring it. Let's bring in by 155 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.560 Coging here, Let's bring in our first guest. We'll get 156 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:33.319 him in talking to Argos. I think we're gonna have 157 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:35.560 some overlap today, so let's bring in the heavy hitters 158 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.279 while we can. Mike Cogan here ready early, let's get 159 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:42.480 him situated. We're live for the McLaren Custom Grills Radio row, 160 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.920 we're broadcasting the only officially licensed CFL barbecue grill. 161 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.439 To see him, purchase grills. 162 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:50.279 Go to McLaren Customgrills dot com and this week only 163 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.759 using promo code CFL get ten percent off your McLaren 164 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:55.959 The custom grills really appreciate that. Mike Cogan, first guy 165 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.399 I had scheduled for the stream, and then number one 166 00:06:58.439 --> 00:06:59.800 on here. We had to have the voice of the 167 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.240 art goes on here, Mike. I don't know if the 168 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.519 is the matchup. Maybe we wanted right on paper. We 169 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:09.160 got the Argos here, circumstances Shaq Kelly and everything aside. 170 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:10.959 What is your take on in this, I'll hold you 171 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:11.639 in my court. 172 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:14.759 I think it's just two really good teams that are playing. 173 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:17.160 If you look over the last five years or at 174 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.879 least post COVID, the Bombers have been the tom on 175 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:21.360 the team in the West. The Argoles have been to 176 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:24.920 five or four straight Eastern Conference finals or Eastern Division finals. 177 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:25.759 So I think if you have. 178 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:30.279 The two best franchises at this stage, Montreal Saskatchewan trying 179 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:32.480 to get a little bit closer, but you know, I 180 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.680 think these are the two teams that maybe didn't deserve 181 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:38.519 it from start to finish this year, but finish strong 182 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:39.279 at the perfect time. 183 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:41.279 What do you make of it? Maybe Andy, you have 184 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:42.879 a question of this, What do you make of this? Yeah, 185 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:45.000 there was so much going in with Chad going obviously 186 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:48.959 into the offseason, going in, sat out, came in, took 187 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.519 a while, really was playing excellent even in the in 188 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.120 the playoff game. Obviously gets hurt, right, and then we 189 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:55.600 see Nick Arbuckle come in. 190 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:58.240 Thoughts just with the team. 191 00:07:58.240 --> 00:07:59.800 I mean, I have to imagine it's been a roller 192 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:01.439 coade here and I just can't imagine like what the 193 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:02.680 locker room is feeling at this point. 194 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.279 Yeah, and then you know the true leader of this 195 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:07.279 team is went McManus and went and went down. He 196 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.079 was on the sixth geam as well, So you lose 197 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:12.279 out on the defense. Chad's not in, Frankman went down 198 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.879 for six games. Like there's been so many injuries during 199 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:18.800 the season. Yet now everybody's healthy aside from Chad Kelly 200 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:21.639 and Quincy moj you know of the guys who would play. 201 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:23.680 So it's like, I think there was ninety seven percent 202 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:27.120 availability of players before the Kelly injury, which at this 203 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:30.720 time of the season is stupid. So they've been they've 204 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:32.600 been good at the right time, they've been healthy at 205 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:34.840 the right time, and all the momentum's going in the 206 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:36.000 right direction for someday. 207 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:37.360 Yeah. 208 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.480 That actually perfectly leads into my question, which was, what 209 00:08:40.639 --> 00:08:43.480 is it that really holds this team together? They've gone 210 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:45.759 through so much stripe as you alluded to, injuries, players 211 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:49.759 leaving in free agency, quarterbacks. It's McManus and then any 212 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.200 other particular players or coaches that have really held this 213 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:52.799 team together. 214 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:58.159 Yeah, the coaches really are business like, like, very professional, 215 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:00.679 and the goal is always one to know. They don't 216 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:03.759 like if you went in in the middle of August 217 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:06.279 and aside from Labor Day, he said, who are we 218 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:07.360 playing in three weeks? 219 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.799 Ninety five percent of the guys would have no idea. 220 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:12.200 They know who they're playing that week. And that's been 221 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:15.720 the approach. So it's okay, this week Winton's not here. 222 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:17.360 If you don't think he's not going to be there 223 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:19.039 for six more, he said, Okay. 224 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.360 He's not there. What are we gonna do to make 225 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:22.159 up for that? And here's our game plan, here's how 226 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:22.799 we're going to do this. 227 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.200 So it comes from Dinwiddie down and if you want 228 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:28.039 to throw another couple of guys in there at Deavars 229 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.000 Daniels will be the top of the list. He's a 230 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.879 guy who really assumes the leadership role. 231 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:37.559 Along with along with Winton and on special teams is 232 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:38.960 Jack Desar. He's the guy. 233 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:41.360 I got a question that maybe Jason have one for 234 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.600 you just to follow up with that, Let's talk coach 235 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.720 Dinwiddy just being able to manage all of this, right. 236 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:48.559 I know they gave out the co coach in the 237 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:51.000 year awards and all of that, and obviously spotlight of 238 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:53.840 Corey Bason and everyone else that way Jason Muss, but just. 239 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:55.240 The mentality to be able to do that. 240 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:57.759 We've talked a lot, you know, fans critical of Dinwitty 241 00:09:57.799 --> 00:09:59.960 in the past with the argos right really see nothing 242 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:01.840 but you know, like unjustified the. 243 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.039 Right criticism and that regard wages for him to be. 244 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:05.799 Able to kind of manage data. What do you make 245 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:07.120 of that that maybe Jason have fallen. 246 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.080 He's earned the respective his players, right. So I talked 247 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.600 to Nick Arbuckle about leadership role and he said it 248 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:15.639 starts with DINWIDDI he said, we all kind of a 249 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:18.240 team takes on the personality of its of its boss, 250 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.600 in this case the head coach, and Ryan Dinwoody is 251 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.720 hardcore football, one week at a time. 252 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:26.759 Here's your assignment. Let's go out and do it. 253 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:28.720 Let's go out and execute, and if we can do that, 254 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:30.759 we should win because the talent's there. 255 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:34.000 Now, it's all about the execution. So it trickles down 256 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:36.720 from Ryan, is the way you got? Yeah, so you 257 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:38.480 mentioned the adversity that this team. 258 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:43.799 Yeah, yeah, we had representation here this week, I mean obviously. 259 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:47.120 So my question is, so you mentioned the adversity that 260 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.600 this team's went through this year, and they're gonna be 261 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.360 facing the ultimate test of adversity after losing their quarterback 262 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.960 last week. So my question is, can Nick Buckle, I guess, 263 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.879 have his Nick Boles kind of moment in the Great Cup. 264 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:02.639 There's already been one Saint Nick? Why not? Too right? 265 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:05.440 And it's not like a lot of people have compared 266 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.440 this to Dinwidi situation when he came in in two 267 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.240 thousand and seven, right when he came in started his 268 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.399 first game in a break up as a backup. 269 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:14.279 Our Buckle has a lot of. 270 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:16.519 Experience compared to where it didn't when he was in 271 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.039 his career. So this isn't the same thing. This is 272 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:22.120 an experienced backup who became a starter, who became a backup, 273 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.519 who became a starter, and is now a starter again. 274 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.960 So I don't think there's a In fact, I know 275 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.120 there's not a guy in the locker room that doesn't 276 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.679 have one thousand percent confidence that Nick Arbucklem can get it. 277 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:34.200 Done on summer. 278 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:36.120 I guess I have a fall up to back because 279 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:38.200 I was talking and obviously I'm you know, I do 280 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:40.120 more of this than you guys are the smart football 281 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.159 people obviously, but like you know, the camera Dukes wasn't 282 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.480 any of it that that we went immediately to our Buckle, 283 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:47.399 that that was kind of the decision that we're I mean, 284 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:48.480 I'm just curious your thoughts on. 285 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.759 That he initially went to Dukes. In the last game 286 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.120 of the season, they gave Kelly the night off, Duke's 287 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.840 got hurt. Our Buckle came in and in three quarters 288 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.039 through for I think three hundred and seventy eight yards 289 00:11:58.039 --> 00:11:59.080 and a couple of touchdowns. 290 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.000 Oh who just won the job? 291 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.799 And Campbell was in the next game, Kelly had to 292 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:07.399 come out of the game because he got a helmet 293 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.200 to helmet on a slide and. 294 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:10.720 Then our buckle had to go on again. So he's 295 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:13.720 he's been in three straight games due to injury. I 296 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:15.279 can't ever remember that happening. 297 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:17.879 So he's got he got some very much needed reps 298 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:19.559 and he looked great in the game against Montreal. 299 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:20.799 So all is good. 300 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:23.679 Like it's nobody's got any doubt at all that it 301 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:24.440 can get this done. 302 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:26.399 I got one more and then we'll go back whoever 303 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:28.919 wants Chad Kelly. 304 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.840 Obviously it's been a story kind of off and on 305 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:33.960 through all of this, right and even going into the 306 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.240 league and then obviously getting hurt. You know, maybe the 307 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:38.799 interceptions right last year and all that and then all 308 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.279 this stuff. I guess do you rinse and repeat going 309 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.360 into the next season. I mean, whatever happens this in 310 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:45.919 the game and all that. But I just, you know, 311 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.000 for Chad here, like it's just been so much over 312 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:49.600 the last three or I I don't know, like how 313 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:51.600 do you what is your advice to him or what 314 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:53.559 are you looking for? Because I have to imagine you 315 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:55.320 would really have to do a hard stop and kind 316 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:57.480 of like, okay, we're going forward to getting now with 317 00:12:57.559 --> 00:12:59.399 him as the team in regards what happens. 318 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.120 Without sounding try. He's QB one, right, I mean, he 319 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.360 signed a long term deal for a reason. He was 320 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.519 playing as well, if not better than any quarterback, no 321 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:08.440 disrespect Bowl. 322 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:10.519 At the end of the season he was lights out. 323 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:11.720 We know what he gonna do. 324 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.879 He's gonna be if he's able to go, and the 325 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.720 prognosis is good from what I'm told, they'll reassess it 326 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:18.480 at twelve weeks. 327 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:20.200 He should be ready. I don't know if it's the 328 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:21.000 beginning of the camp. 329 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:23.320 I don't know if it's early in the season, midseason, 330 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:27.840 but when he's healthy, I assume unless something ronically changes unexpectedly, 331 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:29.080 he's gonna be QB one. 332 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:30.440 I'll have a fall prevention. 333 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.000 But I'll toss to Andy here because I got a 334 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:33.360 lot of big What do you got for Mike? 335 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:34.120 Well? 336 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:37.200 Yeah, Back on the quarterback conversation, one of the things 337 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:40.039 that was really remarkable to me last year with Montreal 338 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:44.200 beating Winnipeg was Cody Figaro really kind of transcending past 339 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.360 what people had always kind of thought of him, and 340 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:49.200 he really took that last drive and pushed past all 341 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.720 the narratives that he ever had and overcame. I think 342 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.360 some demons in that process in winning that game. Do 343 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.440 you see Arbuckle having to do something similar where he'll 344 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.279 have to transcend as a player tomorrow. Do you think 345 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:00.480 there's gonna be a lot more help and more of 346 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:03.039 a committee by approach in terms of tacking Onnipeg. 347 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.759 If you've got five talented receivers and a thousand yard 348 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:06.759 running back, use them. 349 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:08.720 If you've got a great offensive line, use it. 350 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:12.399 If you're the coaching staff, you can't do some of 351 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:14.720 the things that Chad Kelly does because nobody else in 352 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:18.200 the league has that arm. So I don't think there's 353 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:19.919 any doubt they can get it done offensively. You'll just 354 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:23.320 have to be a different way through some great Paul 355 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.919 deep balls in practice this week, so you know that's 356 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.399 still there. But you know, is he going to throw 357 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:32.679 that roll out cross body dime from the sixty five yards? 358 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.000 I don't know if has that in them, but him 359 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:37.720 throwing deep is not a surprise to anybody. 360 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.799 I got something, you got some first, Yeah, absolutely, so 361 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:44.120 Winnipeg obviously a hell of a team, five straight Gray Cups. 362 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.279 What kind of challenges do you think they present to 363 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.279 Toronto tomorrow for great football team? 364 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.200 They have a pedigree quarterback. They've got the out standing 365 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:55.279 player in the league at running back. They've got a 366 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:59.000 really good offensive line, fantastic receivers, the defense is always 367 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.679 in position. They're both hungry. They have spectacular coaches. Other 368 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:06.639 than that, they don't offer anything. You know, there's a 369 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:09.240 solid football team. So they're there for a reason. They've 370 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:12.600 been five in a row for a reason. Nobody takes 371 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:15.799 Winnipeg lightly. Ever, even when they were zero and three 372 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:19.080 or whatever, the record was two and six, nobody took 373 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:23.039 them lightly. And they're playing their basketball right now, so nobody. 374 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:24.080 They're just a great team. 375 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.200 I was making an eyeball fay, we've got Paul Off 376 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.559 the least walking by this is. These are the things 377 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:30.120 you get on the radio where I just think it's 378 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:31.759 funny all the back and side. 379 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:31.519 Uh. 380 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.360 I guess two quick questions. So the first off, yeah, 381 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:35.720 what what did you make to Winnipeg? 382 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:36.320 Slow start? 383 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:38.399 Right? Obviously, it was kind of like, you know, the 384 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.120 demon's dead, we don't have to be under me. 385 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:44.279 Somehow Palpa team returned, you know, Star Wars. What did 386 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.320 you make it? That slow start? Really felt like they 387 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:47.039 never faltered. 388 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.000 I thought there was a chance that maybe this was 389 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:53.360 father times year and he is undefeated because Claros is 390 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:57.559 in his mid thirties, Stanley Bryant's his late thirties, Big Hill, 391 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:02.000 all these guys who are closer to forty than twenty, right, 392 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.279 so at some point it's. 393 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:06.200 Got to give whatever reason. 394 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:08.320 I captured the Fountain of Youth at mid season and 395 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:09.799 just lights out after that. 396 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:12.360 So they're there for a reason, and they've done all 397 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:13.240 the experience in the world. 398 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:16.200 They're just you can't say anything badly about the organization. 399 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:17.320 Is not much to say. 400 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:19.840 One quick one for me and then we'll toss. We 401 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.080 got a Darrel Davis standing by. What was your reaction 402 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.919 to the injury with chat Kelly? Now, candidly, we were 403 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.759 getting ready for a party. Our sink had clogged, Dorothy King. 404 00:16:28.840 --> 00:16:31.120 I was running downstairs watching the game. Dorothy goes here, 405 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:34.720 So I got the cfl plus laptop on the island. 406 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.159 I've got my head under the stake and I look out, 407 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:38.919 I mean the group chat. I'm like, what the hell 408 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.200 does happen like? And I then I literally I had 409 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.679 to rewind everyone. What was your reaction of real time 410 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:45.240 to that? I know, I think it was Hodge. She 411 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:47.279 spoiled the news to far Han and we've been kind 412 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:49.240 of hurtling this. Where were you at and just curious 413 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:50.639 your reaction because it had to be traumatic. 414 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.120 Broadcast booth of Montreal's at about the twenty yard line 415 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:56.080 where he was not. He went down head first, go 416 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.480 for the first now, and he got up, okay, fine, 417 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.879 and then he started lifting. I went, okay, something happened 418 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.359 and then he went down. I went, did he get that? 419 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:08.559 Looked like it was an achilles the way he went 420 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:11.160 down right, just put no weight on it. And then 421 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.440 when he got up and then sat down again. I 422 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:16.839 didn't see from my angle what had happened to the lake. 423 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.640 My color boys did and he said, that's not good. 424 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:26.559 And so I never saw the replay of the of 425 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.400 the angle of the injury until I got home, and 426 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:33.039 I want, that's not good. So I knew it was serious, 427 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:34.599 but I didn't know it was like that other than 428 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.319 what Ben Grant had said, because he the monitor was 429 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:39.240 closer to him and I was still trying to survey 430 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:40.480 the field to see what was happening. 431 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:42.319 So I knew it was bad. I didn't know what 432 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:44.680 was happening any as are you guys And then we'll 433 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:45.279 bring in Darryl. 434 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:48.279 What do you think the biggest key is to winning 435 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:48.839 on Sunday? 436 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.000 Don't shoot yourself in the foot, and that's the both teams. 437 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:53.920 Let me cliche when the battles on the line of 438 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:55.279 scrimmage and don't turn the ball over. 439 00:17:56.000 --> 00:18:00.000 There you went on, Yeah, we appreciated Mike Kuggin. Here boys, 440 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.000 the argos, thanks for coming by first one on. We 441 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.359 got Darryl Davis coming in here. We got Daryl Davis 442 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:07.680 coming in here. You guys want to do together? No, okay, 443 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:09.440 we're bringing Darryl here. We got Jamie I said, my 444 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:11.960 nanke you Mike. You appreciate it. Guys again, like to 445 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:15.680 subscribe here in we got Darryl shaking hands with Mike Cogan. 446 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.039 Like I said, stacked line up today we're rolling through 447 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:21.079 ten twelve minutes a player a person year. We got 448 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:23.680 Brian Scott coming on. Later, we got Dave Taylor. Who 449 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:25.039 were you excited. 450 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:25.519 To see the day? Jason? 451 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:28.319 You know, it's always exciting when we get players on 452 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:28.759 the show. 453 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:32.039 So I gotta say Brian Scott, especially the unique season 454 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.160 that he's had, really looking forward to asking him some 455 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:36.759 questions being a part of both of these teams at 456 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:38.440 different points of this season, so. 457 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:39.839 I have to go with them. You know. 458 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.680 We have Anthony Miller chiming in the chat that slide 459 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.640 and the background is the perfect other four of the 460 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.119 Reids Washington commanders after losing Street two straight games and 461 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:50.680 how his VC Lion Seeds would end up all downhill. 462 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.440 Thanks Anthony. Maybe one of these years we'll get Anthony 463 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.839 in the Great Eifel. We have Daryld Davis here. Darryl, 464 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:57.519 I send a lot of messages, think that a lot 465 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:00.920 of emails back, but you're here. It worked out time, Darren? 466 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:01.599 How hell are you? 467 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:04.839 You send me emails? Okay? 468 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:08.359 Oh sorry man, I'm doing great. I'm a little saggy. 469 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:10.440 Did you know what rains on the West Coast? I'm 470 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:12.240 from the Prairies, man, it doesn't rain much. So this 471 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:14.440 is fun to walk around. I keep hoping I'll grow. 472 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:17.759 What's your takeaway today? Here? 473 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:19.799 We thoughts as was gonna be here? I wanted ask 474 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:22.279 to be here, obviously following shortt Atasa Jason and he 475 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:23.799 under that. But what is kind of your thoughts today? 476 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.160 Here? Win a bag drade. You have twenty twenty two redecks. 477 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:28.519 Well, Winnipeg knows how to get here, don't they. They've 478 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.680 the Bombers have played exceptionally well when that's mattered. They 479 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:34.880 started very slowly. The Riders started hot, had a huge 480 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:36.880 skid in the middle when they went seven games without 481 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:38.960 a win and then one four the last five. 482 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:40.000 So I thought they were really hot. 483 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.200 The way they beat the BC Lions, they looked to 484 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:44.440 be the team that was gonna make it. But Winnipeg 485 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.519 in that situation just is so relaxed, does all the 486 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:50.000 right things. And the rough Riders just under first year 487 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:52.400 head coach Corey Mace and everything that went with them, 488 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:54.599 they weren't quite at that level. I think they'll be better. 489 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:57.319 Nobody almost nobody wins in their first year coaching a 490 00:19:57.400 --> 00:19:59.559 new team. So the rough Riders next year have a 491 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:02.759 second head coach who's gotten better, a guy they believe in, 492 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.680 and a lot better better roster than they had this year. 493 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.240 And I'll ask Cory mass otherwise if you have a 494 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.000 question what he got. Yeah. 495 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.920 Actually, in regards to Saskatchewan, what's been some of the 496 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.160 biggest differences between this team and the team the last 497 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:17.440 year is where they've really faltered down the stretch. But 498 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:19.440 this year obviously kind of holding it together in the 499 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:20.440 late parts of the season. 500 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:22.359 It's a great question because they are a different team 501 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.079 this year. Craig Dickinson last year was a we like 502 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:29.160 Craig Dickinson from Afar, who cares if media likes him, right, 503 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.200 But the players had fallen out of respect for him. 504 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.039 He just didn't seem to have the command for the 505 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:35.519 team and you could see it on the field that 506 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:38.319 they they weren't responding to him anymore. Not that he 507 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.240 totally lost the locker room, but there was just so 508 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.839 much disbelief. The first thing Corey Mace did and he 509 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:46.160 did not bad enough Craig Dickinson or the preceding regiment 510 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:49.400 before him at all, but he came in and demanded accountability. 511 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.440 Remember Miles Brown got suspended, Deontay Williams got suspended. 512 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.119 They were front and center afterwards, they met. 513 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.000 Everybody said that they apologized to the media, to their teammates, 514 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:01.799 to the fans, to everybody in the schedule. 515 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:04.319 And that's what Corey Mace does. 516 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:08.039 He's accountable to himself, to everybody in the organization, everybody 517 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:09.200 in the province, everybody who. 518 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:10.279 Follows the football team. 519 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.680 And I think that maturity is what made this team 520 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:15.799 way better than it was under Craig Dickinson and under 521 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.519 a lot of coaches before that. So so that's what 522 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:20.480 he's brought and that's why I think they can handle 523 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:22.079 the situation and I think why they're even going to 524 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:23.119 get better going forward. 525 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:25.000 You got something, Jase, Yeah, absolutely so. 526 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:26.920 Darryl, first of all, great to have you back on 527 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:28.240 the show after last year. 528 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:29.839 I want to talk about Trevor Harrison. 529 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.400 The season he had so obviously missed some games again, 530 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:35.000 you know that's kind of been a theme of him 531 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:38.759 the last couple of years, but if you pro rate 532 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:40.960 his stats over the course of a season. I was 533 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.599 saying on our show a couple of weeks ago, he 534 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:44.240 might have been the mop of this league. 535 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:46.480 But he's thirty eight years old. 536 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:49.160 Does he have what it takes to get this team 537 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:51.640 over the hump and into a great Cup? And if 538 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:53.839 he's not the quarterback of that team next year, do 539 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:55.039 you see anybody else landing? 540 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.319 So oh, that's a huge question. What a packets at is. 541 00:21:57.359 --> 00:21:59.960 Let's go with thirty eight. He'll be thirty nine next year. 542 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:01.759 You're right. The way he played at the end of 543 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:03.880 the year was great. The way he played at. 544 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:05.359 The start of the year was great, but he's missed 545 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:07.920 nineteen games with two different knee injuries over the last 546 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:08.440 two years. 547 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:10.839 So is he worth it? He's making almost five hundred 548 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:11.480 thousand a year. 549 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.240 The players love him, these teammates love him, the community 550 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:16.680 likes and the coaches like him. Is there somebody better? 551 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:19.720 Well at the moment, maybe not. He fit the role 552 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:23.400 so perfectly for a long time. But you have to 553 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:25.160 get younger, you have to get better. You probably have 554 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:27.720 to get cheaper a little bit too, so that all 555 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:28.960 the familiar names come out, right? 556 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:30.759 Can they go after tray Ford? Can they do? 557 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:32.680 They go after Vernon Adams Junior? Do they go after 558 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:35.240 David Alexander? Those are three names you just throw it 559 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:37.240 right away. And does that make them better? 560 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:37.559 No? 561 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:41.920 Maybe maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, But it positions them. 562 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:43.559 Better moving forward in the future. 563 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:46.759 Right, So I think that they might like to make 564 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:50.279 a change, or then again, maybe Jeremo Day the general manager, 565 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:52.559 and Corey Mays the head coach, and Mark Muller the 566 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:53.839 offensive coordinators, say, you. 567 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:56.400 Know what, he's doing a great job. Let's just live 568 00:22:56.440 --> 00:22:56.799 with them. 569 00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:58.920 But that doesn't set up anything for the future because 570 00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:01.960 we saw Shape Patterson back up step in. He was okay, 571 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.839 But I don't think he's really a bona fide CFL 572 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:06.640 starting quarterback looking for me, And. 573 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:09.240 That's Shape Harrison. What draft pick was he in the USFL? 574 00:23:09.400 --> 00:23:11.599 He was number one overall, one number one draft pick 575 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.240 in the USFL. Shape Patison, Yeah, famously. I say it 576 00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.240 every week on our show. Trevor Harris is my age. 577 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:18.880 He is one month older than I am. And the 578 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:21.279 fact that he is playing professional football in any sense 579 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:23.640 of the word is pretty in Sandy me. But like 580 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.599 you said, it's it's not setting up. There's no future there. 581 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:29.559 That's true with wake up in the morning ready and 582 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:32.519 playing touch football, contact football, tackle football. 583 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:34.880 So it's amazing what he does. 584 00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.039 He's in good shape, he looks after himself, and he 585 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:39.880 works out tremendously hard. But that one season, you know, 586 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:41.799 last year is only a spring me, but two years 587 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:44.640 ago was major surgery for it. So the fact that 588 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:47.400 he got came back and played at a pretty good pace. 589 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:50.759 But he also can't run the football, and other teams 590 00:23:50.799 --> 00:23:52.799 know that, and we all know in the CFL you 591 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:54.640 have to be able to run the football as a quarterback, 592 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:57.480 right even if he don't run it very often, which 593 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.839 he didn't, he has to be able to as part 594 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.640 of the threat. So and rid As we were just 595 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.799 talking about going forward, I don't know what they do. 596 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.759 They're only going to have one quarterback then, and I think. 597 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.240 They have to deepen that resource a little bit and 598 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.720 find somebody who's able. Maybe maybe Jack Cole and the 599 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:14.839 Notre Dame quarterback who's third string on their on their 600 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:16.839 depth chart look pretty good when he played just a 601 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:18.720 little bit, and he seems to have caught on. But 602 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:20.720 how do you know, but it might have the clear 603 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:23.319 space for him and get somebody else on top. Not 604 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.119 that we wished the worst of Triper Harris when he 605 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.759 came to Regina. I've been watching him for years thinking, boy, 606 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.160 there's a guy who doesn't seem bony all the time. 607 00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:30.799 No, he's not. 608 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:33.400 He's like that constantly and I really gained a lot 609 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:35.200 of respect for him over the over the last couple 610 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:37.519 of years. But is he still good enough? He's never 611 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:40.599 won a Great Cup as a starting quarterback. To me, 612 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:43.359 that still might be the number one knock against him. 613 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.680 So I have more general questions about the lead. 614 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:47.680 You guys have any other things to ask specific we 615 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:49.200 want to talk about, because then I want to rotate 616 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:50.559 I want to get a little bit more about Randio 617 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:52.279 that do you have anything else that's ask well. 618 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:55.839 Actually, as we're talking about potential quarterback options, if you 619 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.400 do bring in someone like tray Ford, do you think 620 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.119 the staff at this moment it is going to have 621 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:03.319 the resources to put a round tray for it. Because 622 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:04.720 I think that's what have been one of the biggest 623 00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:06.839 complaints that I think, at least from our end and 624 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:08.880 from other people, that it's time in Edmonton. 625 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:10.920 It never seemed like they really gave him a fair shot. 626 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:13.559 Do you see Saskatchewan maybe going that way or do 627 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:15.240 you think they'll do something more traditional. 628 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.920 I guess someone like David Alexander a great great point 629 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:18.640 to look at. 630 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.640 I thought Edmonton had surrounded him with pretty good running back. 631 00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:24.119 Lewis a pretty good receiver. 632 00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:26.599 I think that that top end talent is better in 633 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:28.160 Edmonton than it is in Saskatchewan. 634 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.720 Is a j o Let done? I think he is. 635 00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:31.960 You know, that's a tough thing to say. 636 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.000 He's their high price free agent and I don't know 637 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:36.160 if he had one or two good games, but can 638 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:36.480 he do it? 639 00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:36.920 Game? 640 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.480 After games, so they probably need a new running back. 641 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:42.480 Their offensive line. People have criticized it, but they had 642 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.400 sixteen different players on that offensive line, and I think 643 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.839 they've solidified a lot of those spots when you look. 644 00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.640 At Logan Furland, Peter Godber at center, the. 645 00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.799 Trevion Tate, the guys they put and Trevor Reed who 646 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.200 played eighteen games at left tackle as a rookie. I 647 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.240 think they put in place a very good offensive line 648 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.400 to protect whoever is there a quarterback great point in 649 00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:03.440 having to upgrade, I think and running back right, I 650 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:05.799 Raquel Armster the ain't coming back. They had scraps at 651 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:07.279 the end of the year. He's not a good person 652 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:09.759 to have him a lot, so he's not coming back. 653 00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:11.559 I don't know if they bring back ajo Let they 654 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:14.920 probably will, but they probably need another running back. They've 655 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:18.599 got great Canadian receivers, can't Shaefer Baker right, Sam Emmilin 656 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.599 is good, Candian Dale Duncan Buzzby the draft pick they 657 00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:23.920 took good Canadian receivers. 658 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:26.319 Mitch Pickton can fill in anywhere. Their Americans aren't quite. 659 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.319 As good, right, uh Keishawn Jacks Johnson got pretty good 660 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.799 at the end, so they're going to have to find 661 00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.759 whoever they bring in some high end talent, which would 662 00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:37.400 make it more appealing for Davis Alexander or at least 663 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.279 more appealing for a trade for to come to Saskatchewan. 664 00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:42.279 I guess that's a quick fall up and I want 665 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:42.720 to rotate. 666 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.839 But like, yeah, because why they you would have to say, 667 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.119 way exceeded expectations this year, right, first. 668 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:49.960 Year the Rogers didn't. Yes, well yeah, but. 669 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:51.720 Then like you're saying, Okay, we got the Trevor Harris, 670 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.839 we got the Ahl, we got all these issues now, 671 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:55.880 so like is there a falloff next year? 672 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.519 Like is this the honeymoon period. 673 00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:58.720 Where you kind of have a lot of good pieces 674 00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:00.640 there already Corey Mays can come and like, I just 675 00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:01.839 curious how you navigate that. 676 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:03.759 And I have a bub they brought in some good 677 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:05.759 ones around that. Let didn't have a good year because 678 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:07.920 he was hurt and I think he's worn out. Harris 679 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:11.200 has missed games, so they're still he can play quarterback 680 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:12.440 in the league if they have to go with them. 681 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.640 The offensive line is great, but they also got like 682 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.559 jamiir Thurman, right, Mikah Johnson who looks like he could 683 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:20.119 play another six to seven years, hasn't even great this 684 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:21.119 in the last couple of years. 685 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.119 An All Star again C. J. 686 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.720 Reeves, a great outside linebacker, coverage linebacker, Roland Milligan and 687 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:29.039 junior the best defensive player in the league. 688 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.839 How is Roland Milligan junior not for MLP discussion? Like 689 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.160 he should have been on the ballot? 690 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.119 Yeah, he could have been both right, Like you know, 691 00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:41.039 he won Special Teams Player, Outstanding Defensive Player and outstanding 692 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:42.079 player for the rough Riders. 693 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:42.440 Nobody. 694 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.720 I don't think anybody's every time that usually guys don't 695 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:46.799 want to play special teams. He wants to play everything. 696 00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.279 So I think reed, and answer you the question they 697 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:51.240 have that will they have a drop off? No, I 698 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.359 think they're going to find out that maybe some of 699 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.000 those high priced guys they didn't need them, and they've 700 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.880 developed a few. But you can always find Ryce. Shiver's 701 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.799 the old Hall of Fame general manager who knew personnel here, 702 00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:03.440 and half the guys in the Hall of Fame are 703 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:06.319 probably recruited by Roy Shiffer says, you can find a 704 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.039 running back anywhere. So I think that there are some 705 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.200 around who will really help that football team if they 706 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:11.680 go that way. 707 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:13.240 But I don't see a drop off. 708 00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.119 I see with Corey Mace Mark Mueller their second year 709 00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.279 in the organization, I see it a bit of an 710 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:19.799 upswing as opposed to a drop off. 711 00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:22.440 Let's do a couple more here. Dan Ralph was supposed 712 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:23.559 to come. I haven't seen it yet. 713 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:23.799 Again. 714 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:25.880 He just call me. He doesn't know what building he 715 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.640 was in the wrong. He's coming. That's fine. We can 716 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:34.000 bring in Rick Early. He's a Toronto guy. He's lost. 717 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.799 More general thoughts here, obviously, Randy and BROSI uh, stepping down, 718 00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.880 getting at whatever. Curious your thoughts on that, and kind 719 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.440 of you know, we were talking on the way back 720 00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:46.200 last night to the hotel, like, I don't know what 721 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.480 you want from another commissioner coming in, but I'm just 722 00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:49.200 curious your thoughts. 723 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:50.640 I see smiling, all right. Well, they want. 724 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:53.160 What they want is somebody who does everything that all 725 00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.319 nine owners, all nine representatives want, and you can't do that. 726 00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.200 The teams that are success are the leagues that are successful. 727 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.359 And even the NHL, Gary Bettman is making money right 728 00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.319 because one guy is in charge Major League Baseball NBA. 729 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.119 They put one man in charge in the CFL. The 730 00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.440 problem is, and I've been to thirty seven great Cups. 731 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:14.279 There have been twelve different guys I've seen stand up 732 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:16.559 there and give the state of the league address, and 733 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:18.880 every one of them gets ripped apart in the end 734 00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:20.079 by these nine owners. 735 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:21.559 And they're not all owners, some of them. 736 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.599 Are community own teams, but nine governors who just want 737 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:28.240 everything their way. They should let somebody be in charge 738 00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.240 and make those decisions like it's his project. And I 739 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.559 know they say the commission doesn't have any skin in 740 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.359 the game, it's not. He's not a part owner of 741 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.720 any of the teams. So let but put him in 742 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.920 charge of it like it is his team. Give him 743 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:43.559 a seven and eight year contract. They're so scared, they 744 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.039 they're so gunshot because they've hired so many people who 745 00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.279 don't do the right thing that if they do find 746 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.880 somebody and maybe Mark Kohen was the right guy, put 747 00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.000 him in charge and give him a twelve a fifteen 748 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.039 year contract and let him run it. And if you 749 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.440 really do have to fire him, they still could. But 750 00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:59.880 give him that much authority. They didn't give Randy ever 751 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.480 you that much authority. They never will in this league. 752 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.880 And that's why they keep shoving guys out the door. 753 00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:07.480 I see Dan Ralph coming in here. We'll get him 754 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:08.960 on here just a minute, and I know a couple 755 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:10.680 of different convention sets where to go ahead. 756 00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:12.519 I'll have a fobby. 757 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:14.240 Do you have anything you want to talk to Daryl 758 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.279 here about Randy andything else they got to fall about that? 759 00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.519 Is there something that you believe that Ambrosi did well 760 00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.440 during his tenure? For example, as you mentioned the ownership thing, 761 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.119 there's a lot of stability now in some of the 762 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:27.200 ownership groups that there wasn't there when he first came 763 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:32.319 in to mar Doman. Obviously pure Carl Pelado, Obviously Edmonton's 764 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.759 stabilizing their ownership. Those are things that I think of, 765 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:36.440 but I'm not sure if you see it the same way. 766 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.119 Exactly the same This ownership group that's probably never been stronger. 767 00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:43.319 You still wonder a little bit about Toronto with MLC, 768 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:46.160 what's gonna happen with the Argonauts? But there's they're there 769 00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.359 and they've got the finances to do it. So that's 770 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:50.880 the irony, the twisted irony of this and Randy Ambrosi 771 00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:54.160 brings together maybe the strongest group of owners this league 772 00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.680 has ever had, and then they push them off the door. 773 00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:58.839 Can they find somebody to deal with all those guys. 774 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.400 I don't know, but that that's the one thing he did. 775 00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.079 But I keep pointing at so many bad things like 776 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:05.200 the globalization. 777 00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.400 I don't know if it's gonna work. It's an interesting fot. 778 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:09.119 He shouldn't have pinted his hopes on it. 779 00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.200 And I keep saying it doesn't take a genius to 780 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:12.559 figure out why he's out the door. 781 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:14.200 It's all about genius sports. 782 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.119 He gave away ten percent of revenues for CFL ventures 783 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.480 to let them come in as beat and be partners. 784 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.759 And how bad was was Genia Sports to we didn't 785 00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:27.039 have stats for an entire year. You don't know anybody 786 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.559 who puts in place something like that. And this totally 787 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.079 falls and explodes in this in his face. I think 788 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.279 that's why, as much as why Randy Ambrosio's gonna work as. 789 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:38.000 Any And we'll get Dan here to say, I'll let 790 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.079 you got that even filling it here. 791 00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:42.240 I appreciate the game and up be I mean, is 792 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:44.359 that indefinite the revenue share in that way? 793 00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:46.359 Like I mean, now it's whoever comes in. They're stuck 794 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:48.440 with that, right sort of. Yeah, they've got a contract, 795 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.279 and I don't. I haven't seen if it's a lifetime 796 00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:53.319 contract with Genius Sports. I hope it isn't. But he did. 797 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:55.160 I remember when he came in and said, how much 798 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.200 did they pay for this? Oh, we gave them an 799 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.359 ownership stake in it, so that could be perpetual. And 800 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.880 you know, if they finally do get the CEEFL making money, 801 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:04.720 I know it's flat. And that's another one of the 802 00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:08.160 reasons that franchise value hasn't improved, and that's why Randy 803 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:09.039 and Rosie is out too. 804 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:10.279 But if it ever does. 805 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.000 Improve, which owner wants to give up ten percent of 806 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.880 its profits to somebody who actually ended up hurting the 807 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:17.160 league for two or three years. 808 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:19.559 All right, let's bring Dan in here, Darryl. Thank you 809 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:19.960 so much. 810 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.160 As just check out my note scene. He's coming out here, Darryl. 811 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:22.720 I appreciate it. 812 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:23.079 We are. 813 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:24.400 We gonna see it the suite you hanging out. I 814 00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:26.279 don't know, maybe I'll see what I do. It's gonna 815 00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:26.680 see you guys. 816 00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.480 Thanks having Darrel. Appreciate it, Dorothy. Maybe we can bring 817 00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:30.599 Dan in and then we'll get the. 818 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.960 Ricks on next year we got I were kicking him out. 819 00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.519 We got Dan Ralph Canadian press here went to the 820 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:36.559 wrong convention set it. 821 00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:37.720 That's okay, it's confusing. 822 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:39.799 I said a lot of things, Dan, How the heck 823 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:41.519 are you this four years in a row? What's going 824 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:45.480 on in I couldn't be better? Great week and the 825 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.279 only thing bad is the weather. But we have no 826 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:48.160 control over that. 827 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:49.079 So all good. 828 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.960 Uh, just to continue and then we'll get back to 829 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:53.759 the game here. Maybe Andy has a question about that, 830 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:55.640 but curious your thoughts. We were to Sago with Daryl 831 00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:58.680 about Randy Leavin, the legacy that we're straddled now with 832 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.720 the Genius Sports Gble adventure and all that didn't work out. Like, 833 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.319 here's your thoughts here, as we're weak and he's stepping down. 834 00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.079 Well, I think, I mean he was. 835 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.400 He was in a no win situation because he promised 836 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.079 to double league revenues and and that was going to 837 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.400 be a really, really tough sell and uh, ultimately I 838 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:19.880 think that's what cost him, right. I mean, the governors 839 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.920 need money, and they want money. They expect money, they 840 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.519 expect certain revenues and when you don't deliver, you can 841 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:29.559 be the nicest guy in the world, but you know, 842 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.359 these guys need money, they want money. They expect money 843 00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:37.000 and they were promised, and unfortunately the reality is that 844 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:38.920 there was a shortfall there. 845 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.039 I'll tells to Andy after this, given the how hamstrung 846 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.680 the commissioner of the CFL is compared to other leagues, 847 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:49.640 is that unfair expectations where hey, we want this, but 848 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:51.720 you're not necessarily in the position. Yeah, it is. 849 00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:55.440 I mean I I equate it to the owners want 850 00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.640 somebody to save them from from themselves, right, They want 851 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:03.200 somebody to fix their problems. And the problem Randy has 852 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:05.839 is that he's got nine different entities pulling him nine 853 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:11.000 different ways. And you know, you keep your supporters at bay, 854 00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:14.760 you keep your detractors even closer, and the guys that 855 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.440 are in the middle, you really got to try and 856 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.719 a pease them. So I think if Randy could be faulted, 857 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:23.159 I think he tried to He tried to gain consensus 858 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:27.159 from all nine owners when basically all he needed was five. 859 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.519 I mean that's a you know, I mean, that's it's 860 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.320 not a bad thing for him to be. 861 00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:35.079 But I think in the at the end of it, 862 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:38.000 he just tried to please too many people instead of 863 00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.639 trying to please a majority that. 864 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:43.079 Andy, you can continue without or switch to the game 865 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:44.000 kind of wherever you're looking. 866 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.760 Well, yeah, to continue with that, I just wanted to 867 00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:49.000 know what do you expect or maybe hope for the 868 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.039 next commissioner line to do in terms of handling the 869 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:54.639 dynamic with the ownership and the board of governors. 870 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.760 Well, the next commissioner in two years has a new 871 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:04.000 television agreement to negotiate, so there's an opportunity there. The 872 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:05.800 problem with that is as soon as you get a 873 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.599 new television agreement, the collective. 874 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:11.119 Bargaining agreement can be opened between the players in the 875 00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.760 league because there's a revenue sharing modeling that so if 876 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.760 all of a sudden, the new commissioner hits the bullseye 877 00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.079 and really you know, brings in some more TV money, 878 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.480 and the players are going to say, okay, we want 879 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.719 to share of that too. So the good news is 880 00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:30.320 there's labor piece for the next four years, it can 881 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:31.079 be reopened. 882 00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:34.159 But I think the TV deal is probably the biggest 883 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.920 opportunity that the new commissioner will come because the deal 884 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:41.159 south of the border and in Canada both expire at 885 00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:45.119 the same time, so then you you have the opportunity 886 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.679 to renegotiate both both deals. 887 00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:49.840 I gotta follow up and then we'll go to Jason. 888 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.880 Yeah, can you let anybody in the world know that 889 00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.719 the CFL Plus in America. 890 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:54.239 Is just a disaster. 891 00:35:54.519 --> 00:35:56.639 I mean, if I got people on the stream, is 892 00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.960 it on Plus? Is it on Sports Network? Like, no 893 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:00.599 one knows what the hell is going on? And then 894 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:02.039 you get in there and I, you know, I know, 895 00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:04.760 I just I saw Rash's tweet. I know everyone has 896 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.440 thoughts about him otherwise, but you know he's talking. Oh, 897 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:09.519 Randy says, it's working. I go, you have all these 898 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.679 Canadians sitting there. No one in this room is actually 899 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:16.480 using that service, so you're talking and neither of mine neither. 900 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:18.639 So it's been it's like we might as well be 901 00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.440 talking about the Mars landing at this point. 902 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:21.320 That's how connect regards. 903 00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:22.639 So just if you could let me, you know, let 904 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:26.079 anyone in the world know then that I sat through 905 00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:30.039 the whole Genius Sports Statistics snaff foo. 906 00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:33.159 No, I don't. 907 00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.360 I don't use Plus. I was at the CFL Awards 908 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.599 banquet and they were they were streaming it on Plus. 909 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:45.400 Jason, what do you got Maybe we can transition to 910 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:48.440 the game. This is painful. 911 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.639 Yeah, I wanted to talk about the twenty twenty sixth 912 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.960 Great Cup, which was recently awarded to Calgary, and uh 913 00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.400 and Rosie said a few years ago, when Calgary last 914 00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.679 hosted the Gray Cup, this will be the last Great 915 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.320 Cup'll ever host at McMahon. 916 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:03.880 But here we are in twenty twenty six, we're gonna 917 00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.119 be hosting again here. Yeah, what do you think the 918 00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.599 future holds for football in Calgary. 919 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:13.079 I think there'll be some refurbishments to McMahon, won't be 920 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:17.280 a brand spanking new facility. I was also told that 921 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.199 Calgary's proposal for twenty twenty six was very solid, So 922 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.559 there might be stadium shortfalls, but maybe there are other 923 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:29.639 avenues that they can make the experience a positive one. 924 00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:34.000 This one here, they've gone all out and it is 925 00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.199 it's a little I mean, this is the first time 926 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.079 I've been in this area of the Convention Center, but 927 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.119 it's it's impressible they've done. 928 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.559 They've done a really magnificent job. And you know, Winnipeg's 929 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:46.800 got a. 930 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.320 Big act, tall tall act to follow next year, and 931 00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.079 I suspect in two years time Calgary will too. So 932 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:56.360 I mean, let's let's keep an open mind that the 933 00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:02.480 stadium is what it is. Hopefully they can fix it 934 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:07.639 up to make the presentation. If anybody's thinking there's gonna 935 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.039 be a brand spanking new stadium, I got swamp playing 936 00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:11.480 in Florida. 937 00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:12.280 That's going cheap. 938 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.639 Let's side the game real quick, and then Dorothy, maybe 939 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:17.880 Dorothy can get Rick here if she's paying attention, they 940 00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.800 always have her standing by, and then that she gets 941 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:21.880 busy talking to Dave Taylor over here with it. 942 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:23.679 Let's talk game real quick. 943 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:27.239 Obviously not necessarily the matchup we want, with Jack Kelly 944 00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:28.199 being out and everything else. 945 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:29.519 What do you make of the game, and then maybe 946 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:31.079 you guys have a followupable road take us. 947 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:34.800 I've had a chance to think it over. Initially I 948 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.760 thought this is Winnipeg's game to lose. Now I'm starting 949 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:41.639 to sway a bit and think that Toronto has more 950 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:46.039 than a puncher's chance against this team. You know, the Argos, 951 00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.360 as we all know, started the year without Jack Kelly. 952 00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.320 They were five and four. Included in that was a 953 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:53.320 win over Winnipeg. 954 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:56.280 And then when Winnipeg was on a roll and had 955 00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.719 one eighth straight, Toronto went into Manitoba and one. Both 956 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:05.360 games were tight, Both games were not aesthetically pleasing. I mean, 957 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.079 the margin of victory was five combined points, but the 958 00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:12.840 Argo defense got twelve sacks and force nine turnovers. And 959 00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.800 if as good as Winnipeg is, if they can't protect 960 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.599 the football, then I think Toronto hangs around. 961 00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:23.559 And the longer Toronto hangs around, the more they believe. 962 00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:26.639 Jase last things for Dan here. Yeah. Absolutely. 963 00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:30.239 So you know Winnipeg if you look back at the 964 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.320 track record, Yes, they've been in the last four at 965 00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:35.239 Great Cups, but Zach Clearis hasn't played too well in 966 00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:39.760 those games. So do you think a third loss really 967 00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.119 damages the legacy of this Bluebombers team? 968 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:43.519 I do. 969 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.519 I think so the same way I think if they 970 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.199 win it, we can sort of put the monikor on 971 00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.880 them that they maybe are the most dominant team over 972 00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:53.519 that stretch. 973 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.599 But to get theirs, I mean, it's a huge accomplish. 974 00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.639 I get it, But you're in it to win it, 975 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.679 and if you don't win it, then everything you did 976 00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:05.599 to get there I think. I don't want to say 977 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.320 is a waste or but I mean I think the 978 00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:12.320 players will tell you it's it's unfulfilling, right. So I 979 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.440 do think if they win it the two things. One 980 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.719 they avenge a two thousand and two loss to Toronto. 981 00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.519 Two it's their third and five and three. I didn't 982 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.559 realize this until I got here this week, but Toronto's 983 00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.119 eight to zero against Winnipeg and the Gray County so, 984 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.079 and Toronto's won the last seven trips of the Great Cup. 985 00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:33.920 So to me, there's a lot there. 986 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.760 And I think with a win, Winnipeg erases all that 987 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.599 stuff that I just said about Toronto, but they think 988 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:41.719 put a stamp on that. 989 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.199 We are still the most dominant team in the league. 990 00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:47.159 Well, Dan, thank you, will bring Rex, Sarah Tell and next. 991 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:47.719 Appreciate it. 992 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.320 Dan, It's always good to see it. Well, let's bring 993 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:54.719 Rick in here. Rix Aarrah Tell, a long time present 994 00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:56.599 of the program. Let's say we're again, We're alive from 995 00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:00.159 the McLaren custom Girls. As I'm breaking my life up 996 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.119 top here opening things I should be opening. 997 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:04.920 We're at the McLaren Grills media row here. 998 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.400 I appreciate them. And the Lions had this stuff. Rick, 999 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:11.000 we were so we were just talking at breakfast. Okay, 1000 00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:11.679 first off, how are you? 1001 00:41:11.880 --> 00:41:12.480 What's happening? 1002 00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.199 So Jason and I were just talking to brunch about 1003 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.000 like you see people on zoom and then you see 1004 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.079 them in real life, and what do we expect? 1005 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.599 Or like, any you look awesome, you look trim, you 1006 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.159 look fly. Not that I didn't think you were a 1007 00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:29.679 cool guy, but like, holy cow, you look great. 1008 00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:31.679 Thanks brother, I'm trying to keep up with you. Man, 1009 00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:34.320 you don't go for yourself, y'all pick your coverage. I 1010 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:38.039 see over here and uh yeah, we're we're we're soaking 1011 00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.239 it in man. By the way, what a great city. 1012 00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:41.159 Uh. 1013 00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.800 I think the NFL. I was just talking to Rob Peterson. 1014 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.320 I think the NFL is dropping the ball with all 1015 00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:50.400 these international games and you're not coming to play a 1016 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:50.880 game here? 1017 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.440 Are you kidding me? I mean, this is fantastic. I've 1018 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:57.079 been oroughly impressed. So people know you. 1019 00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:59.360 You've been on before, you know, All Access Football and 1020 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.280 everything is GOATI now you were with the Elks and like, 1021 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:03.280 could you just way, what do we got going on now? 1022 00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:06.159 Busy guys with if I can't even keep track all 1023 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:07.320 the time, what the heck's going on now? 1024 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.679 Well, you know, All Access Football dot Com is probably 1025 00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:12.840 the best way to keep up with everything that's going 1026 00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:16.239 on right now. But uh, you know, listen a lot 1027 00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:20.119 of there's a lot of whispers out there in regards 1028 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.360 to what's gonna happen with the Edmonton Elkso I here, 1029 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.239 so you know, listen, I'll tell you this. That team 1030 00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:29.719 is built to contend. This is not a tear down situation. 1031 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:33.079 I mean you saw it. You saw when we were 1032 00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:35.480 rattling off that. In fact, I put the Leak podcast on. 1033 00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.280 I don't even listen. I listened to the Marquest. Sometimes 1034 00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.679 I want to throw my shoes at the monitor, but 1035 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:42.039 only because I respect you guys. 1036 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.199 But you know I was. I was tuned into the 1037 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:45.159 CFL podcast. 1038 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.000 They were talking about Kenny Elks making run to the 1039 00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:49.719 Great Cup, and that's how good we were playing. So 1040 00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:51.679 I don't think this is a teardown job. I think 1041 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.519 this team is on the brink of contention. I think 1042 00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:57.360 when you look at the games that we were in, 1043 00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.960 we lost it due to a bad play here or there, 1044 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.519 and I think, you know we're ready to ruck. 1045 00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:05.719 So we'll see and y'all I know where you want 1046 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:05.880 to go. 1047 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:10.480 So here. So it's unfortunately we didn't cross pass early 1048 00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:14.079 this year. I went to Edmonton more Unfortunately we lost 1049 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.079 to this gentleman's team. 1050 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.320 Believe I had an incredible game. 1051 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.800 But more and more importantly what happened during that game 1052 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.760 was Trey came in and I felt this just rush 1053 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:27.000 of momentum from those crowd. The energy level just changed. 1054 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.559 And how do you feel when you watch Trey in 1055 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.360 person and on tape? What do you see from him? 1056 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.119 What kind of assets do you think he brings to Edmonton. 1057 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:37.039 He's a playmaker. 1058 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.880 I would just liken him to a point guard because 1059 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:42.039 of his ability to improvise. I think a lot of 1060 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.440 stuff is off structure, and some of it's by design, 1061 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.880 some of it's not. But I think, you know, those 1062 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.639 are traits you can't teach, and so I think what 1063 00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.599 you saw and what you felt is basically what we 1064 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:55.199 saw and felt was that he needed to be the 1065 00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:56.639 starter because he jumped started. 1066 00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.360 You know, even though McCloud played well. 1067 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:03.360 I don't know if that was the issue, but you 1068 00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:07.239 could see even the players I thought there was there 1069 00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.920 was an extra pep and those stuff. That's just and 1070 00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:12.760 I'm watching from afar because I'm not there in season 1071 00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.559 on the field in person, but I'm watching the footage 1072 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.760 and I'm watching on TV, and you can sense that 1073 00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:20.159 and you can feel that and I think, you know, 1074 00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.400 Trey's got a right future ahead of him, he really does. 1075 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.679 But you know he's got to stay healthy, I think 1076 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:29.800 first and foremost, and you know, whether it's in Edmonton 1077 00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:31.000 or or somewhere else. 1078 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:32.920 I mean, he's going to be the face of this 1079 00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:36.079 league for a long time, isn't it wild? 1080 00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.960 Just and all the time with all the alt leagues 1081 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.480 and stuff, and here McLeod and the plays argos and 1082 00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:43.840 goes to place in the UFFL comes back. It just 1083 00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.280 the journey kind of all these guys go on now 1084 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:48.480 with just how interconnected all these leagues are and all 1085 00:44:48.519 --> 00:44:50.320 the different affiliations you've had over the years. 1086 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.400 I mean, it really is a different. 1087 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.880 Time, at least I'm not as old as experience as 1088 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:56.159 a lot of people, but it feels like it's a 1089 00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.440 different time kind of in the football atmosphere right now. 1090 00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.119 You know. 1091 00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:03.239 I was thinking about during the COVID when McLoud was 1092 00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.880 trying to make a NFL comeback because he actually only 1093 00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:09.239 needs three games for his NFL pension, And that's how 1094 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.679 I got introduced to McLeod Bethel Thompson. I was so 1095 00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:13.960 impressed and there was no doubt in my mind after 1096 00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.199 that workout that this man can be. 1097 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.559 A backup in the National Football League without a doubt. 1098 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:20.760 And I think I think the NFL is sleeping on 1099 00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.480 some of the talents in Canada. And I won't go 1100 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:25.239 too far into that because I don't want. 1101 00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:26.480 To let them in on that right now. 1102 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.480 But you know, it's funny how everything, like you said, 1103 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:31.480 comes back around. 1104 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.559 And when he said he wanted to come back to Canada, 1105 00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:37.679 you know, I said, you know, maybe we should entertain that. 1106 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:41.840 And I was thinking about how how you know, working 1107 00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.639 in the CFL is just really a relationship thing and 1108 00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:48.360 a connection thing. And what a great speech by Nick 1109 00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.639 Anderson the other night, and I was just telling the story, like, 1110 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.559 you know, we were sitting in the bleachers at the 1111 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:57.679 Senior Bowl and Coach Jones was telling me about this 1112 00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.199 linebacker he's trying to recruit from from Elaye Nick Anderson 1113 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:02.920 and I can't get a hold of this agent. I said, 1114 00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:06.360 agents right there, and we called him over and like 1115 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:10.800 basically the dal was done on the spot. And you know, 1116 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.039 just the team building of the CFL experience and having 1117 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.719 a year under the belt. Man, I think like with 1118 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.639 our leadership, we're we're in position with great. 1119 00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.320 Yeah, you have to be tremendously proud of Nick Anderson. 1120 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.599 Did you believe that he really had the capability to 1121 00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:29.079 get this award this year? 1122 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:30.760 I mean, he really was outstanding. 1123 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:34.480 So so so we're sitting We're sitting Coach Jones office 1124 00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:38.119 and training camp with g Roy and myself, and you know, 1125 00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.039 I'm sitting there, I'm like, listen, Nick Anderson might f 1126 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.039 around and find out and lead the league in tackles, and. 1127 00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:47.119 They just kind of start laughing at me. I'm just 1128 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:48.360 telling you what to see, guys. 1129 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.119 And sure enough, I think he did right him and 1130 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.840 Niles and that's the best linebacker unit in the CFL 1131 00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.320 as far as I'm concerned. But you know, he is 1132 00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.280 the CFL Sam Mills and I know he has NFL aspirations, 1133 00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:04.679 and I think, like that's what we want our program 1134 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:06.960 to be. And any free agent player that wants to 1135 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.960 come out and play for Edmonton, we are never going 1136 00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.079 to hold you back from an NFL opportunity. If you 1137 00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.440 want to go out and you get that opportunity, We're 1138 00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:17.159 gonna let you go there because we understand that's gonna 1139 00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:18.639 help us to prove the next player and that's what 1140 00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:19.079 we want to do. 1141 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:20.239 We want to be a springboard. 1142 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.239 We obviously want to retain talent, but we also want 1143 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.760 to have the elite talent, the talent that we deam 1144 00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.159 is capable of playing in the National Football League. 1145 00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:30.519 I think we got quite a few of those guys. 1146 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:33.679 As a matter of fact, I'll ask a fall but 1147 00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:36.800 then maybe Jason, we talk Everton anything else. Just curious, 1148 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.119 you know, going in now being a part of the CFL, 1149 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.800 experiencing all of that jumping. I just thoughts and kind 1150 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:44.639 of because it's been really kind of a unique, crazy 1151 00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:46.159 year for you and being able to come into this 1152 00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:48.599 new position. Just curious your thoughts here of obviously all 1153 00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:49.599 your experience out. 1154 00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.400 Of the year. Well, Canada never disappoints. 1155 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:56.119 I mean I've loved every city I've been too, I 1156 00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.599 would say, you know, having gone through the process now 1157 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.159 because I started talking to the these guys, I mean 1158 00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:03.920 I was officially brought on board in January, but we 1159 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:04.960 started talking about this. 1160 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:06.039 Right around this time. 1161 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:11.519 Because now I see when, uh, the urgency was there 1162 00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.440 last year at this time. Now I understand it because 1163 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.039 between now and May, when we report to training camp, 1164 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:19.159 that's basically. 1165 00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:21.639 Where my role, where my value lies. 1166 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.159 You know, because once we go to training camp, there's 1167 00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.400 only so much tinkering we can do. And I thought 1168 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:32.000 Giroy made some magical moves bringing in Tevin Jones. Sean 1169 00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:37.719 Oakman ranked the tank eliminating some of the bad apples. Okay, 1170 00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:41.039 I thought that was really the difference of our culture. 1171 00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:45.480 But between now and May is basically where my value is. 1172 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.360 And we're gonna start recruiting, and you know, have these 1173 00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.920 announcements made and and and get I mean, the work 1174 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.119 hasn't stopped, right, but you know, you need. 1175 00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.400 Clarity to move forward, and I think that's where we're headed. 1176 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:01.840 Thing you got anything about Emond, Yeah, for sure. 1177 00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.440 Just to build off of what we've talked about about 1178 00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.760 the Elks roster, where do you think the areas of 1179 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.119 improvement are for this team going into next year? 1180 00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:13.239 Well, you know, I thought the offensive line stepped up 1181 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:16.119 their game this year, you know, and that is something 1182 00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:20.039 I want to see continue to improve because the game 1183 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:21.079 is won in the trenches. 1184 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:22.719 And so I think that. 1185 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.280 Noah Taylor has an opportunity to step his game up. 1186 00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:30.639 And Elliott Brown I think is as good of a 1187 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:33.280 pass rusher as there is. But when you talk about 1188 00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:35.639 the CFL. You need to create pressure, you need to 1189 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.039 win in the trenches. And I'll tell you what our 1190 00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.840 secondary We need to look at ourselves in the mirror 1191 00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:45.880 and stop making nucklehead, which plays earlier last. 1192 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:47.480 Question for you will bring on Jamie and I here 1193 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:49.719 I thought on the game. You know, who do you have? 1194 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.960 It's an interesting matchup here, So let's talk about actual 1195 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:54.079 break up here before we get out. 1196 00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:57.159 I think it's going to be a competitive game. I 1197 00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:59.559 think it can come down to whoever has the ball last. 1198 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:03.920 And you talk about Nick Arbuckle is mister adversity. He's 1199 00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:04.880 built for this moment. 1200 00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:05.920 I do believe. 1201 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.440 All the adversity that this man has dealt with throughout 1202 00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.599 his career has prepared him. You know, you talk about 1203 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:17.199 preparation meets opportunity. I think he might bring some of 1204 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:21.000 that big Nick energy. And I'll tell you what, man, 1205 00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:22.840 this this game is gonna. 1206 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:23.280 Go down to the wire. 1207 00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:24.760 It's gonna be a very competitive BOK. 1208 00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.000 All the pressure is on Winnipeg, right, so I think 1209 00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.559 Winnipeg is feeling the pressure. I think Toronto comes in 1210 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:34.719 here a little bit more loosey goosey, and uh man, 1211 00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:37.880 I'll tell you it's gonna be fun, but I'll be there. 1212 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:39.000 I'm looking forward to it. 1213 00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:41.519 So you're saying that Toronto is basically gonna have a 1214 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.119 statue of Nick Arbuckle outside of Demo fielding about two 1215 00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:44.480 month time. 1216 00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:49.639 Is that what you're telling me? It is gonna be Oh, 1217 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:51.480 I appreciate it. We'll bring in Jamie and I here. 1218 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:53.800 Thank you so much. Rick, appreciate it. Rick there, tell 1219 00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.159 everything else. Appreciate this a selfie real quick before I 1220 00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:59.039 get out of here. So don't mind me on the line. 1221 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:04.159 It's all doing here. This is a fluid situation. Outstanding 1222 00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:05.119 does workout. 1223 00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.239 We do a good job. We tried this for every 1224 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:08.800 year four. It's a little different than we were in 1225 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:11.519 the back of the the bar here in Hamilton the 1226 00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:17.239 first year. There we go, Hey, you got it, there 1227 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.119 we go. Thanks Rick, Let's bring in Jamie and I. 1228 00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:21.559 We got Jamie and I with the green zone again. 1229 00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.840 Reminder here from the McLaren Custom Grills Radio row, we're 1230 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.440 broadcasting the only officially licensed CFL barbecue grills. 1231 00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:29.719 See and purchasing grills. 1232 00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.880 Go to Mclarencustomgrills dot com. This week is a problem, 1233 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:35.320 but CFL to get ten percent off, Jamie and I 1234 00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:36.639 here with the Green Zone. 1235 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.360 We've been talking to the sweet A lost a couple 1236 00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:39.840 of weeks. We have a question here from Ken. 1237 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.280 I think you can hop in two years ago Mosaic 1238 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:44.840 basically stole out. I would disagree with that. There was 1239 00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.599 a lot of empty seats. Hamilton last year added seats 1240 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.599 and neutral sites. Why are there so many tickets available tomorrow? 1241 00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:54.559 Well, Vancouver has always been a softer market for the 1242 00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:58.039 for the Canadian Football League. All the major cities happen 1243 00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:00.559 when it comes to Great Cup ticket sales. The smaller 1244 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.480 markets they have a bigger season ticket holder base, so 1245 00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:06.320 those are eating up all the time by season tickets, 1246 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.719 buying their Gray Cup tickets beforehand. 1247 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:11.639 So there's a smaller supply out there. 1248 00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.119 In BC, it's a bigger supply and it would have 1249 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:17.159 been sold out if the Rough Riders or BC Lions 1250 00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:18.280 would have been in the Gray Cup. 1251 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:22.119 But it's the Winnipeg Blue Bombers again, and I think 1252 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:22.960 there's a little bit. 1253 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:26.280 Of Even Winnipeg fans who have traveled to four consecutive 1254 00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:28.159 Gray Cups are going okay, do I have to travel 1255 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:31.719 to a fifth? So that that is a lot of 1256 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.360 the reason on why now I don't know how much. 1257 00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:36.519 It's a lot of seat I've went on the map. 1258 00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.440 There are open seats, but I think it's still gonna 1259 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:44.079 look pretty full for game day on Sunday. 1260 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:46.719 We'll go to Andy here this second than Jason. They 1261 00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:51.079 just candid thoughts on the game. They know, little little lackluss. 1262 00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:52.920 You're here with the Nick Arbuckle ble right or are 1263 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.199 you feeling I think we've did that some heavy lifting 1264 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:57.199 this week, trying to make this maybe feel a little 1265 00:52:57.239 --> 00:52:57.599 bit bigger. 1266 00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.760 I've talked to Nick Arbuckle on a few occasions on 1267 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.639 the show when he was going in as the Outawa 1268 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:04.920 Red Blacks quarterback. 1269 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.480 This week I talked to him again. Nick Garbuckle is 1270 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:09.079 a great story. 1271 00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:11.719 Nick Garbuckle had like, if you listen to his interviews, 1272 00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.079 if you listen to who this guy is and how 1273 00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:17.760 he is built, you're cheering for Nick Arbuckle to have 1274 00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:21.599 that trophy in his hand. It's hasn't been an easy 1275 00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:24.239 path for Nick Carbuckle in his life. Hasn't been an 1276 00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:27.199 easy path in the Canadian Football League. So as much 1277 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.480 as it is kind of disappointing, it's dot Chad Kelly 1278 00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:33.079 in the argos against the but Nick Arbuckle is a 1279 00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.239 story to root for for this year's Great Cup, at. 1280 00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:36.880 Least it is for me. 1281 00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:38.199 What do you got to have it? 1282 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:41.480 Someone we haven't really mentioned today on our podcast is 1283 00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:45.840 Brady OLIVERA. Obviously tremendous season last year, didn't win the 1284 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:47.519 MLP this year he does. 1285 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:49.840 Do you think he has something to prove? 1286 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:51.559 And how much do you think this really matters to 1287 00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:53.679 him as somebody who kind of was in the shadow 1288 00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.199 of Andrew Harris previously in the previous Great Cup wins, 1289 00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.119 but since Olvera took overstarted. 1290 00:53:57.719 --> 00:53:59.800 They haven't really had that moment yet. Do you think 1291 00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:01.199 this means a lot to him? Yeah? 1292 00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:05.159 This is similar to like a Darien Durant, you know, 1293 00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:07.480 and who was the quarterback and he wanted to win 1294 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.239 his own Gray Cup. I know he's not the quarterback, 1295 00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:12.920 but for Brady Oliver EA, it matters to him that 1296 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:14.760 he's going to be the lead back on Sunday and 1297 00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:16.800 try to finally get. 1298 00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:18.920 Something that's near and dear to him. He's a Winnipegger 1299 00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:20.159 right like he's from there. 1300 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:24.119 Now he's the double winner of the Canadian and Most 1301 00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:27.599 Outstanding Player and what better would it be to cap 1302 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.440 that off as maybe Great Cup MVP and winning the 1303 00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:33.920 Gray Cup for his hometown as the lead back for 1304 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:37.039 the Winnipeg Blu Bahmer. So absolutely, Brady OLIVERA is one 1305 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:40.280 of another guy. Man, did you know what this guy 1306 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:41.320 does in the offseason? 1307 00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:44.119 He goes and save dogs around the planet. Like, this 1308 00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.599 guy is one of the nicest dudes you'll ever meet. 1309 00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.719 So another person that I love in the canad I 1310 00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:52.119 loved some of the a lot of the people in 1311 00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.599 the Canadian Football League and Brady Oliver is one of 1312 00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:57.000 those guys who I can root for ease them. 1313 00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.400 Well, I hate him because BC can't cat him and 1314 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:02.440 can't man it him. And I just heat this run? 1315 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:04.840 Was it last year in the finals. He's just running 1316 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.320 down the field. There's like five lions just clean on 1317 00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:09.639 him trying to So I do not share your set 1318 00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:10.119 of it, Jamian. 1319 00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.039 Do you not like dogs? I like dogs. We got people. 1320 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.079 We got full of babers here at the sciiting we're 1321 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.719 living life here. But no I I yes, Ray over, 1322 00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:20.280 I talk about the awards he got, how impressive that is, 1323 00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:20.559 And then. 1324 00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:23.480 We can go to Jason, Well he shouldn't have won 1325 00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:23.920 one of them. 1326 00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:27.000 It should have been Roland Milligan Junior most Outstanding Player 1327 00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:29.360 of the Year in the Canadian Football League in my 1328 00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:33.039 probably bias opinion being from Saskatchewan, but when I look 1329 00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:36.280 at what Roland Milligan did that this year, it was 1330 00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.079 an outstanding season. First guy since Hall of Famer Willie 1331 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.119 Plus to get twenty special teams tackles and lead a 1332 00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:46.719 defensive category which he did in interceptions like that is outstanding. 1333 00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:50.599 That is rarely seen in the Canadian Football League. So 1334 00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:54.199 I think that storyline got kind of downplayed. And yes, 1335 00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.960 eighteen hundred old like yards from scrimmage, yes, four touchdowns, 1336 00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:03.440 like he's the most outstanding Canadian. Absolutely my goal would 1337 00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:06.000 have went somewhere else for the most Outstanding Player award, 1338 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.800 but Roland Milligan junior didn't come out of the West. 1339 00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:10.840 So I didn't have that option. We just had a 1340 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:11.320 comment here. 1341 00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:13.480 They're talking about, you know, going to Winnipeg next year 1342 00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:15.599 and I go and I'll watch Winnipeg falls off next 1343 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:18.239 year and that it will be to continue that Jason, 1344 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:19.000 what do you have for Jami? 1345 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:21.000 And they will stargeting Dorothy's attention. We'll get Rod over 1346 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:23.159 here soon. Yeah, just to build off what we were 1347 00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:24.360 talking about with the awards. 1348 00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.719 Do you think the way that the CFL does the 1349 00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.400 nominees for the awards, doing this East West nominations, it's 1350 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.559 a little bit outdated. And then maybe we should do 1351 00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:36.800 what I was hearing about on the Three Down Nation podcast. 1352 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.519 To pick o hell. 1353 00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:41.960 I don't know, just pick the three best candidates of 1354 00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:43.639 the whole league, regardless of division. 1355 00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:45.360 There's so much idea. 1356 00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:47.960 I've been talking about this for ten years or more, 1357 00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:53.719 but of going the NHL Awards, right, NHL Awards, you 1358 00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:56.480 vote won, two, three, four, five, your first year, second 1359 00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:59.679 or third, fifth, they tally you all those are different points. 1360 00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:04.320 The top three point getters are the nominees. The voting's done, 1361 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.039 they already know who won. They just announced the top 1362 00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.760 three vote getters, and then you're highlighting an extra player 1363 00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:14.239 a great Cup week every single year. Now, that's a 1364 00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.760 financial burden on the league because they'd have to fly 1365 00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:23.559 another person in. So that's probably a little less appealing 1366 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:25.440 to the league to go to three and have more 1367 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:27.480 people you're paying hotel rooms and flights for. 1368 00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:30.800 But I like it. I like the top three. 1369 00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:33.840 I think it makes sense and highlights more players, and 1370 00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:38.000 then there would be an opportunity for maybe vote splitting 1371 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:39.440 for offensive players where. 1372 00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:40.480 We'd have a little bit more. 1373 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:43.199 There's only been one defensive player to be the MLP, 1374 00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:44.840 and that was Solomon L. 1375 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:47.519 Mimian, So I don't think that's right. 1376 00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:50.000 Well, it feels like the NFL too, or the MVP, 1377 00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.239 and it's always a quarterback. I mean, it's hard to 1378 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.800 especially again, defensive player, even though. 1379 00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:59.360 I look at the defensive players in this league and 1380 00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:03.440 they get I don't want to say disrespected, but it's 1381 00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:07.159 it's always a bias towards offense because some people say 1382 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.039 they have their own award, they have the most Outstanding 1383 00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:13.679 Defensive Player awards, So it's not the most outstanding offensive 1384 00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:16.039 player of the league. It's the most outstanding player of 1385 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:18.920 the league. But I do like the verbiage of these awards. 1386 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.280 I like the outstanding instead of valuable, because if you 1387 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.039 went to valuable, ninety nine percent of the time you're 1388 00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:29.800 getting a quarterback. Outstanding opens for running backs, receivers. Solomon 1389 00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:33.079 el mimi in a decade ago for a most Outstanding player. 1390 00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:35.079 Award, Andy, what do you got? And we'll start moving 1391 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:36.000 that rotation here. 1392 00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.639 Something that really stood out to me last year watching 1393 00:58:38.679 --> 00:58:40.960 the stream in Hamilton. As you sat on the set 1394 00:58:41.039 --> 00:58:44.880 and you said about Saskatchewan, how much culture do you 1395 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:46.559 really have if you won four Great Cups in one 1396 00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:47.079 hundred years? 1397 00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:48.079 And that really stuck out to me. 1398 00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:52.119 Can you talk about what is the best aspect of 1399 00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:54.039 Corey Mason as a leader and as a coach this 1400 00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:57.079 year really kind of bringing in and sort of transforming Saskatchewan. 1401 00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:02.719 Accountability is the one word I think Corey Mase has 1402 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:08.800 brought to this organization is accountability because he holds himself accountable. 1403 00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.360 He's the first guy to say he did it after 1404 00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:16.320 the West Final. He said it was a bad game plan. 1405 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:18.199 He didn't use those words, but he said it was 1406 00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:19.159 a bad game planner. 1407 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.000 That's on him. He's got to be better. He'll take 1408 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:22.639 some bullets. 1409 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:26.400 But when a guy in training camp right away, in 1410 00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:30.440 training camp, Bruno LaBelle didn't run a he goes late 1411 00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.760 for a meeting and he was dragging the bag back 1412 00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:38.440 and forth a couple of times as a discipline. Accountability 1413 00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:41.800 and you've seen it. They're all accountable, even to the media. 1414 00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.039 They're a lot more open when they make a mistake 1415 00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:46.599 to talk to media and be open to the fans 1416 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:46.960 about it. 1417 00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:51.320 And when you have an account accountability. The accountability issue 1418 00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:52.760 was an issue in Saskatchewan. 1419 00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:54.920 Now that's no longer the case, and I think they 1420 00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:58.719 all hold themselves accountable, which is beginning to grow a 1421 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:00.079 winning culture. 1422 01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.960 Like they have in Winnipeg and like they have in Toronto. 1423 01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.559 You guys have anything else will bring Rod in thoughts 1424 01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:08.159 on the game? Then who do you think comes out? 1425 01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:11.400 I'm going with the upset. I'm going with the upset. 1426 01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:15.280 I'm going with Toronto. You got Wyn McManus, you got 1427 01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.239 Laura Melane. I like Ralph Holly in the middle. You 1428 01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.159 have playmakers on special teams and Jenering Grant. You have 1429 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:25.280 playmakers all over the offense. I like Kadeen Carry. Match 1430 01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:29.800 up against Brady olivera quarterback and receivers is where I 1431 01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:33.360 give the edge to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. A lot 1432 01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:36.480 of the other stuff I'm given to Toronto. Argonau's it's 1433 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:39.280 just up to Nick Arbuckle to be okay. If Nick 1434 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.440 Arbuckle's okay, the Argos win. 1435 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.840 Jamie, appreciate Rod's destroying our sat. We're bringing Rod beers 1436 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:48.920 in there. Appreciate it, Jamie. We'll see you later at 1437 01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:51.519 the Sweet I appreciate it. We have Dave Naiel are 1438 01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:53.360 standing by here, a lot of good guys coming. Like 1439 01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:55.480 I said, like and subscribe, give us up over four 1440 01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:58.760 thousand subscribers. Give away a couple of custom jerseys here 1441 01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.440 from Gustin with row Retch when we get four thousands, 1442 01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:03.320 So please like and subscribe, join the channel. 1443 01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:05.880 Do all that, Rod, I was on your show yesterday. 1444 01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:09.559 I might have been feeling the effects of the FRC 1445 01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:12.760 suite and everything Thursday night. I was a little I 1446 01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:14.679 was a little tired there, but we got through it. 1447 01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:16.800 I did your show. You're hearing that, Rod, how are 1448 01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:17.039 you doing? 1449 01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:20.199 That's why you had alcohol on your breath? I wondered 1450 01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:23.039 if I was thinking. I didn't want to say anything. 1451 01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.559 But since you brought it up, your wife, your wrangler, 1452 01:01:26.599 --> 01:01:27.599 fell asleep on the job. 1453 01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:30.800 She's visiting too much. I know she's too chatty. No 1454 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:31.440 such thing. 1455 01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:35.199 So yeah, you brought garing bearing gifts. There's no way 1456 01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.320 that I could repay you, so I'm not even gonna 1457 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:38.559 try it. 1458 01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:39.800 Well, I appreciate it. 1459 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.159 Rod's here a long time before, one of the first 1460 01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:44.440 Canadians we ever had on the show, Big Merger and 1461 01:01:44.480 --> 01:01:44.679 all that. 1462 01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.119 What do you make of all this, we're here you 1463 01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:50.000 Great Cup week, and what do you think? I'm pretty 1464 01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:51.079 blown away, to be honest. 1465 01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.559 I've been too multiple Great Cups in Vancouver, twenty eleven, 1466 01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:56.360 about twenty five, twenty eleven, twenty fourteen. I think this 1467 01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:58.719 is the seventeenth Great Cup in Vancouver. Do you read 1468 01:01:58.760 --> 01:01:59.679 the game notes free. 1469 01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:00.400 At the game? 1470 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:01.239 I haven't yet. 1471 01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:05.119 I don't rely on me to do that. I don't 1472 01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:06.519 know about you guys, if you've been to a Super 1473 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:09.480 Bowl before. But last year in Vegas, the Lions people 1474 01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.920 were there. I saw them and they were writing down notes. 1475 01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:16.239 This is a carbon copy of the Fan Fast out 1476 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:18.119 of Kevin Embert. The NFL called it, but this is 1477 01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:21.760 very similar Radio Row a little smaller, but the fan 1478 01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:23.400 fest all the same stuff. 1479 01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:28.000 So that's pretty cool. Excited about you think? I don't know. 1480 01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.039 How do you feel about the league right now? Randy Stepan? 1481 01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:31.800 Now what do you think? A general welfare thoughts? And 1482 01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:34.360 they're gonna end it well? As you know, I don't 1483 01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:37.760 work in the league anymore. So not that I don't care. 1484 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.960 I'll always care, but I'm not worried about it anymore. 1485 01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:42.760 How could you look around at this this week and 1486 01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:46.199 think that this league's in any way trouble, but people 1487 01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:49.159 do want to talk about it, and they say, what's next, 1488 01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:51.599 you know, with the next commissioner. I fully believe they 1489 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:53.960 don't know who it's going to be. But what I 1490 01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:56.880 hear is that expansion is on the horizon. They want 1491 01:02:56.920 --> 01:03:00.320 to get to twelve teams. The expansion revenue, you look 1492 01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:02.480 at your crack and you're wearing their lid. The money 1493 01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:05.639 that comes with an expansion franchise will infuse a lot 1494 01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:07.880 of money into this league, and I think it's going 1495 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:08.599 great places. 1496 01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:09.440 I do. 1497 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:12.480 You wouldn't love the league if you didn't believe in it. 1498 01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.920 The league's right, and the product has always been unbelievable. 1499 01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:16.800 That's fine. 1500 01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:20.760 It's the business end, and from what I understand, things 1501 01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.880 are looking up there, so the product will always be 1502 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:24.880 good anyway. 1503 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:28.480 You got ron from our perspective, just as overall football 1504 01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:30.960 fans and following all the leagues, the word expansion is 1505 01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:33.440 maybe the hottest corporate but buzzword that there could be. 1506 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:35.960 Everybody just loves to smash that button. 1507 01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:40.039 But as far as the realistic options go in Canada, 1508 01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:41.599 and I thought it was interested that Randy and BROSI 1509 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.719 kind of broke down how it wouldn't really be much 1510 01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:46.320 of an option to go in America at the moment. 1511 01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:48.880 Where do you see the realistic possibilities in Canada. I've 1512 01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.079 got some intel Quebec City for sure. 1513 01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:54.519 I mean, they're ready to go and they love not 1514 01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:58.039 just football but Canadian football in Quebec, so I think 1515 01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:00.159 you can put that down as one of them. I 1516 01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:02.480 hear winsor. I don't know if you guys know, I've 1517 01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:04.519 never been there. I've never been to the Troit school there. 1518 01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:07.920 Oh yeah, So they tell me that's a huge NFL hotbed, 1519 01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:11.599 but I think the potential owner has a lot of 1520 01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:15.199 money windsor would be another. And then there is talk 1521 01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:16.800 of Europe, but I don't really want to go down 1522 01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:19.559 that road. But as you say, people love to talk 1523 01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:21.320 about it, and for the last few years, I'm like, 1524 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:25.320 let's not even talk about it because the league doesn't 1525 01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:27.000 want to expand, because that was the last thing i'd 1526 01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.679 heard that they don't. But things change and now they 1527 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.920 do want to expand, and it's being led by Larry Tannebaum, 1528 01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:36.840 the president of MLSC and the Argonaut's owner. 1529 01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:39.400 He's the god that's leading this. It's a man that 1530 01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.800 he's the most powerful man in Canadian sports. So I 1531 01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:44.480 kind of feel if he wants to get this done, 1532 01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:46.480 it'll get done. Yeah. 1533 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:49.559 So I wanted to talk about Randy and Rosie's legacy 1534 01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:52.440 as CFL commissioner. You just talk about the things that 1535 01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:54.519 you felt like he did well and some of the 1536 01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:56.599 things that were kind of this shortcoming. 1537 01:04:56.679 --> 01:04:58.960 Well, I'll tell you I've seen him speak a couple 1538 01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:01.440 of times here this week. This morning at the Athletes 1539 01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:03.400 in Action breakfast, which I didn't see you at RED. 1540 01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:08.840 It's a God centered event. Nothing you hate God or anything. 1541 01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:08.679 But. 1542 01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:14.159 Obviously from the Mrs So I was on there. I 1543 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:16.880 saw him at the Legends luncheon yesterday, the alumni event. 1544 01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.880 Let's remember he's alumni. I mean, he's I like Randy 1545 01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:23.320 read and I got into this yesterday on my show 1546 01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:27.360 A rash can we say hates him for his own reasons, 1547 01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:31.280 those aren't my reasons. And when I hear Randy speak, I'm. 1548 01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:34.800 Like, he's a good guy, he's a player, he's a lot. 1549 01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:38.199 I like Randy, and I think that that job was 1550 01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:42.400 impossible to be successful at. You know, there hasn't been 1551 01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:44.960 a good commissioner since Mark Cohen, which was the last 1552 01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:49.960 time they expanded was on Mark's watch. So anyways, Randy's legacy, 1553 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:52.239 I things can end up being he transferred got the 1554 01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:54.960 stable ownership into that VC Edmonton. 1555 01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:57.480 That will be his legacy. But that's not a lot 1556 01:05:57.519 --> 01:05:58.840 to hang your hat on. He tried. 1557 01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:00.760 I'll give him credit for having the balls to try 1558 01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:02.000 Global two point zero. 1559 01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:04.599 I didn't like it at the time. It flopped, but 1560 01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:05.519 at least he tried. 1561 01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:07.800 I'm not gonna, you know, throw a guy under the 1562 01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:09.519 bus or trying something and it didn't work. 1563 01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.559 He thought we need to expand outside the Frenchy's borders. 1564 01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:17.880 It didn't work. They didn't expand on his watch. That's 1565 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:18.639 his legacy. 1566 01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:21.079 I'd like to say that there was more, but he 1567 01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:24.559 is in a tough job because the owners run this league. 1568 01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:27.239 Shit, that's what it is. That's the commissioner. 1569 01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:30.239 From what I understand, Roger Goodell runs the NFL. That's 1570 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:33.559 the sense that I've been told. Probably gets his direction 1571 01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:34.639 a lot from the owners. 1572 01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:37.679 But it's more so this year in terms of and 1573 01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:39.519 I think it was an article that came out, you know, 1574 01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:41.800 with Brandy stepping down or getting you know, all the 1575 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:44.400 Allison a lot of it started back in twenty twenty 1576 01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:46.760 with the failed COVID season. Sorry to begin is that 1577 01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:49.800 you're understanding of just okay, we didn't do that. I 1578 01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:52.480 think we really set the league back years right those 1579 01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:56.039 next two years after COVID play was down and attendance 1580 01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:58.199 was down, riding his dig until now to really kind 1581 01:06:58.239 --> 01:06:59.920 of get back to I think where it was. Thoughts 1582 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:01.360 on that, and I mean, I know it's the agent 1583 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:03.480 history now, but really set the stage for where we're 1584 01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:03.800 at now. 1585 01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:06.599 I should actually mention I sat at the Legends luncheon 1586 01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:07.800 with Randy who was at my table. 1587 01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:09.840 I tweeted a photo of it so I could. 1588 01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:14.000 It's probably where it started, and this Randy needs to 1589 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:18.280 wear this. He went to Parliament Hill and met with 1590 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.960 that Standing Committee basically asking for COVID funding, which in 1591 01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:23.360 Canada read you wouldn't get it. 1592 01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:25.840 Well mind, you probably got Biden checks too, like everybody 1593 01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:26.320 in America. 1594 01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:31.280 But Trudeau is handing out money to everybody, and they go, Randy, there, 1595 01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:31.800 what do you want? 1596 01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:34.199 Randy? As I say, how about one hundred and fifty 1597 01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.440 million dollars? They laughed at him. 1598 01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:39.760 He didn't have a business plan. That's on Randy and 1599 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:43.199 then he said, well, we'll take thirty. I don't I 1600 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:45.599 don't even know if they got that, So that that's 1601 01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.320 where it started. And then the fact that they didn't 1602 01:07:48.360 --> 01:07:52.039 play at all was probably the owner's decision. You think 1603 01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:54.159 Randy didn't want to play. Of course he'd want to play, 1604 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:56.719 but they couldn't find a way to play. And we 1605 01:07:56.840 --> 01:07:59.719 all know the CFL is not a major CANDI nor 1606 01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:03.440 and pro league, but it's a pretty big pro league 1607 01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:05.239 and they're the only one that didn't play out of 1608 01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:09.079 all of those, so that is but that's not it 1609 01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:11.199 maybe started there, but the fact is that they're not 1610 01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:14.719 making money to the degree that the owners want is 1611 01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:16.319 why they're looking for a new commissioner. 1612 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:18.560 Fall up here, we'll do a couple. 1613 01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:20.800 We'll get Dave dave on because he's stand bys on 1614 01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:24.039 his phone now, so that's good expectations. 1615 01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:25.560 So yeah, the owners want more money. 1616 01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:28.000 Want Whenever I'm talking with Dorothy last night, we're walking 1617 01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:29.600 back and we're kind of prepping for the show, and 1618 01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:31.760 I go, you know, you look at like the Cowboys 1619 01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:36.199 eleven billion dollar franchise, Commanders sold right, seven billion dollar franchise. 1620 01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:38.960 Obviously the CFL is not. But like you know, it's 1621 01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:41.119 it's it's you know, it's not even closed, it's not 1622 01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:42.159 even in the same world. 1623 01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:44.199 And I just like, what are the expectations. 1624 01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:46.680 I just feel so far offensive, you know, the Board 1625 01:08:46.720 --> 01:08:48.159 of Governors wants whatever. 1626 01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:50.640 I don't know even if that's possible for the next commissioner. 1627 01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:52.680 I think it is possible. They need to change the 1628 01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.159 way they do things. I mean, I was in before 1629 01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:59.319 you and I even met. I was very deeply involved 1630 01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.039 in this league. Read I was sitting in league meetings 1631 01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.560 that the commissioner was in and he was saying, we 1632 01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:06.600 need we need to go dark for six months in 1633 01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:10.680 the offseason. I'm like, did he just say that? And 1634 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:13.319 I saw it and it wasn't Randy. It was a 1635 01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:16.159 predecessor to him. And so they need to be everywhere. 1636 01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:19.560 The NFL is everywhere, and like I'm everywhere, and I 1637 01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:21.600 was at Super Bowl and I picked up stories there 1638 01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:23.680 that Jerry Jones didn't want to play. That's why the 1639 01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:26.920 Dallas Cowboys aren't playing any global games. You don't want 1640 01:09:26.960 --> 01:09:30.359 to But nobody knows that because that's not reported. But 1641 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:31.720 Jerry's like, I want to make as much money in 1642 01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:34.359 America as possible. They're like, thanks, Jerry, but we're gonna 1643 01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:36.119 go play in London, in Germany and Brazil and you 1644 01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:38.920 can stay home if you want. All that extra money 1645 01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:41.359 went into the caut It's not because Jerry's not a genius, 1646 01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:46.319 my god, he's not. But expansion, it's getting bigger being everywhere. 1647 01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:49.159 They need to be a lot of help in the 1648 01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:50.520 marketing end, and. 1649 01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:52.640 I think it could happen. I don't think it's too late. 1650 01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:53.720 You're seeing it here with BC. 1651 01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:56.880 You know, a huge increase in Antennan is I'm major 1652 01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:58.479 kicking the nuts that they're not in the game. 1653 01:09:58.920 --> 01:09:59.880 But it can be done. 1654 01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:01.800 But they need to change the way that they think. 1655 01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:04.079 And I good luck to the next commissioner if he's able. 1656 01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:06.359 To do that. My favorite tweet from last night, and 1657 01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:08.399 he was talking about the Mike Tyson fight. They're like, 1658 01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:10.319 as most people to go to Dallas, you know, they 1659 01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:13.119 went and saw an event. Eighty thousand people left disappointed, 1660 01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:15.319 just like they do the Cowboys. That was great and 1661 01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:17.960 he thought, anything you want to go will be two more. 1662 01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:19.399 We'll bring on day fair Well. 1663 01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:21.399 Little Ben diagram there because one of the Jonas brothers 1664 01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:24.640 was actually shown at the game or at the boxing 1665 01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:26.159 match last night and now he's coming over here for 1666 01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:28.880 media today, So kind of funny with that. But yeah, 1667 01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:31.840 in terms of the ownership commitment, Lamar Doman was really 1668 01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:36.439 very adamant yesterday about being really committed to this whole thing. 1669 01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:39.119 I think he really sees this as not just his time, 1670 01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:42.439 but generational time beyond him, of being able to have 1671 01:10:42.520 --> 01:10:44.399 his family involved in this for many years to come. 1672 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.279 Do you get the sense overall that more owners in 1673 01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:49.479 the CFL are feeling that much more committed? Is this 1674 01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:51.520 the strongest CFL ownership has ever been? 1675 01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:54.680 Wow, that's the narrative they would like put forth. 1676 01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:58.760 And I see no reason to dispute that local ownership 1677 01:10:59.000 --> 01:10:59.640 is important. 1678 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:04.439 Montreal's Alouettes are owned by Quebec lore. You know where 1679 01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:04.760 they're from. 1680 01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:09.199 Quebec Edmonton was bought by a major heavy construction operator. 1681 01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:11.760 I live in Miami where the Dolphins are owned by 1682 01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:13.880 a guy from New York and it doesn't go over well, 1683 01:11:14.359 --> 01:11:17.079 you know, and the Dolphins are not a great organization, so. 1684 01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.239 Local ownership was key. They oversaw that. I think I 1685 01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:22.680 do think they are in a stable squad, and to 1686 01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:23.800 be honest, it's the. 1687 01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.199 Elephant in the room that you guys probably won't talk 1688 01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:27.760 about and I haven't heard a lot of talk about 1689 01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:30.199 it here, but the Saskatchewan rough Riders are like a 1690 01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:33.000 weak link in the whole thing, which nobody's ever set. 1691 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:35.199 But they're not making money. 1692 01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:36.880 They're not in the Gray Cup, but haven't been for 1693 01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:39.000 over a decade, so who would have Well, what a 1694 01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:41.199 PEG's the only other community on team now, but they're 1695 01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:43.640 in the Gray Cup. But I guess it doesn't take 1696 01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:46.359 much to get Saskatchewan back if they need to start. 1697 01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:50.119 Yeah, so I want to build off of that with Saskatchewan, Like, 1698 01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:52.680 I just want your thoughts on their season this year. 1699 01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:55.119 Would you classify it to success? Obviously it was a 1700 01:11:55.159 --> 01:11:56.880 bit up and down. You had that skid in the 1701 01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:59.000 middle of the season, but they were able to finish 1702 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:02.119 strong and obviously they didn't get what they wanted they 1703 01:12:02.199 --> 01:12:02.920 lost last week. 1704 01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:07.239 But your thoughts on Saskatchewan season, it's all perspective, that's it. 1705 01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:09.520 However you want to look at it. I would say 1706 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:13.279 it's pretty successful. And Corey Mace to take a team 1707 01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:15.039 from where it was as a rookie head coach to 1708 01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:17.319 where they finished up hosting a home playoff game. 1709 01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:20.479 And losing probably is a better job than Jason was. 1710 01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:22.720 But I can see why Jason won. 1711 01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:24.560 But there's a case to be made why Corey Mays 1712 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:26.319 should be coaching here for what he did in his 1713 01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:28.720 rookie season. Forget about the seven game win. The skid 1714 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.079 shouldn't matter, So that that kind of answers your question. 1715 01:12:32.159 --> 01:12:33.680 But the other thing is they haven't been in a 1716 01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:37.159 great Cup in over a decade. The stadium is nowhere 1717 01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:40.960 near full at all. They do have their problems as well, 1718 01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:44.560 and their quarterbacks contract is up, so it's not like 1719 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:49.000 they're going into next year on a huge wave of momentum, you. 1720 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:51.560 Know, And that's not idea. 1721 01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:55.159 Yeah, it's kind of almost just a bit surprising to 1722 01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:58.600 me as an outsider to see so many Saskatchewan fans 1723 01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:00.239 and yet when I watched the games, like you said, 1724 01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:02.840 you'll just see like rows of empty seats, even during 1725 01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:05.479 like major games. I find that a bit surprising. Is 1726 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:07.600 there any reason for that or particular reasons? 1727 01:13:07.600 --> 01:13:11.840 Oh? Yeah, they consciously have broken the tie with the community. 1728 01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:14.560 I've seen it. It's not like they used to do. 1729 01:13:14.640 --> 01:13:18.399 They don't have the community involvement and it's a different place, guys. 1730 01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:19.760 I mean, I was the voice of the team for 1731 01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:22.439 twenty years, and I'd never really left saskatchewand like most 1732 01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:23.800 of the people there, and all I'd heard from the 1733 01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:26.279 football people was this is just like Alabama, this is 1734 01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:27.159 just like Mississippi. 1735 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.319 I didn't really get it until I went to Alabama Mississippi. 1736 01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.640 I'm like, Oh, I get it. 1737 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:36.640 It's all there is here, That's all they care about, right, 1738 01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:39.680 But they fractured that relationship with the fans. 1739 01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:43.239 Consciously. They've tried to be the Dallas Cowboys, I e. 1740 01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:45.600 Make money. You don't need to win to make money. 1741 01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:49.439 They just forgot half of that. They're not winning championships 1742 01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:50.640 and they're not making money either. 1743 01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:53.159 And now once you get behind that eight ball, I 1744 01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:56.039 would think it's pretty hard to come back. 1745 01:13:56.680 --> 01:13:58.600 Well, Rod, thank you so much. Appreciate you coming on. 1746 01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.600 I got Dave standing by, busy I running around. 1747 01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:01.119 Appreciate it. 1748 01:14:01.239 --> 01:14:03.399 Rob heres and thank you so much. Safe travels back 1749 01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:07.199 to Miami. Dave Naylor TSN Insider coming on. We've kept 1750 01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:09.159 Dave standing by, who's been back and forth, but we 1751 01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:11.720 got him on. Dave said he'll make time, happy to do. 1752 01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:14.439 We don't have far Han this year. Normally far hanted 1753 01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:16.800 Naylor come as a co pair, but far haunts the 1754 01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:18.119 child who's playing football today. 1755 01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:18.920 Loser. 1756 01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:22.760 Ah, we're gonna talk CFO expansion in the States here, 1757 01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:24.479 but first off, thank you so much for coming. 1758 01:14:24.520 --> 01:14:26.399 Next for standing by. First off, how are you doing. 1759 01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:29.119 I'm good. You know, it's a it's a week that 1760 01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:31.640 sometimes feels like it last forever and goes by quickly 1761 01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:33.199 at the same time. I don't know how to describe 1762 01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:34.920 Great Cup week. But we'll wake up tomorrow, we'll do 1763 01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:39.560 the game, my twenty seventh Great Cup. And I think 1764 01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:41.560 this has been really positive when the weather hasn't helped 1765 01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:42.960 a little bit. Obviously some of the turnout in the 1766 01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:44.800 rain and touch and the Lion's not beating the game, 1767 01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:47.880 But I mean, I still think you feel really positive 1768 01:14:47.960 --> 01:14:50.319 vibe just throughout the entire week. 1769 01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:51.520 Yes, that's my question. 1770 01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:54.880 Obviously, Google League and Ugly in here right, huge family Zone, 1771 01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.279 Zip Liones, everything going on tomorrow really came out and 1772 01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.359 a lot of money and time and energy spent by 1773 01:14:59.399 --> 01:14:59.960 the BAC lines. 1774 01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:03.359 How big of a failure was this season for them 1775 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:04.359 on the football field. 1776 01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:06.840 Well, I think if you looked at where they were, 1777 01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:09.399 you know, first five weeks in the season where they 1778 01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:12.760 were even after ten or eleven weeks, and the additions 1779 01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:15.399 they made, you know, past the middle of August to 1780 01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:17.119 try to make sure they were here. And I'm talking 1781 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:20.600 about Matthew Betts and Nathan Rorke, and they admittedly went 1782 01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:22.680 over the salary cap, which is not illegal in the 1783 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:24.159 league if you're willing to do it and pay the 1784 01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:27.880 fines and that you can do that. But unquestionably that 1785 01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:30.560 was the expectation. And you know, I think really where 1786 01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:32.640 it got away from him was when they had that 1787 01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:35.720 game in October at Saskatchewan and it basically winner gets 1788 01:15:35.760 --> 01:15:37.960 home field playoff. They didn't win the game. You know 1789 01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:41.159 that that to me was where the Lions season really came. 1790 01:15:41.319 --> 01:15:43.439 And look, I think with and I say this with 1791 01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:46.319 all due respect to Nathan Rourke, but I think it 1792 01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:50.119 would have served him better, the Lions and Vernon Adams 1793 01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.119 better if he just played it out in the National 1794 01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:53.960 Football League, you know. And I would think that if 1795 01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:55.800 Nathan knew how this was all going on hold with 1796 01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:57.760 the game back, I don't want to speak for him, 1797 01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:59.680 but I think, you know, I might have done things 1798 01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:01.159 different and just said, hey, I'm gonna come back in 1799 01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:04.159 the offseason. I thought when you saw Nathan down the 1800 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:06.520 stretch of the season, he just seemed kind of mentally fatigue. 1801 01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:08.479 And I think that comes from being on five teams 1802 01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:10.399 in twelve months, you know, in two different lakes. 1803 01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:14.159 Yeah, in regards to that, I agree with you. It 1804 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:17.159 seemed like it seemed like it was VA's team from 1805 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.000 the get go, and then the chemistry kind of got 1806 01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:21.720 messed with. But the other thing about the VC that 1807 01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:23.560 I point out a couple of weeks ago that kind 1808 01:16:23.600 --> 01:16:25.479 of surprised me is just sort of the lack of 1809 01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:28.560 physicality that the team had. And this was especially so 1810 01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:31.640 considering they brought in Matthew Betts, they brought in Christian Connington. 1811 01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:34.680 Were you surprised by kind of how soft they were, 1812 01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:37.680 especially with like run defeated defense or just in general. 1813 01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:38.760 An offensive line too. 1814 01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:42.039 I wasn't because I've been listening to my colleague Baronology, 1815 01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:43.840 you know, screaming my ear about it, you know, the 1816 01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:46.159 whole second half of the season, as everybody was talking 1817 01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:48.600 about quarterbacks and who should play, and you know, as 1818 01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:50.960 a VA or is it Nathan and that he was 1819 01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:54.640 talking about defense, you know, and and that ultimately doesn't 1820 01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:57.880 draw as much attention as a sexy quarterback controversy does. 1821 01:16:58.319 --> 01:17:00.119 But yeah, I was kind of surprised to see that. 1822 01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:01.479 And you know, it's funny, was it was. 1823 01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:03.159 A weird year for guys coming back from the National 1824 01:17:03.159 --> 01:17:06.239 Football League, right Like Nathan Roar came back, didn't go 1825 01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:08.920 so well, Matthew Betts came back, didn't go so well, 1826 01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:12.560 Austin Matt came back, didn't go so well, and you know, 1827 01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:14.520 and those are all guys that I don't think have 1828 01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:16.960 you know, like we've seen some times wore young guys, 1829 01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:19.079 they're really hungry in the CFL, they go to the 1830 01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:21.439 National Football League, they come back, that dream is dead 1831 01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:22.880 and they're not the same player. I don't think those 1832 01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:24.680 any of those guys fit that profile. 1833 01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:27.239 You know, at all. So it's it's even more surprised. 1834 01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:28.960 I think they're all more likely. 1835 01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:30.560 To be Adam big Hills, you know, came back to 1836 01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.920 the National Football League and there's a better player than 1837 01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:34.600 they ever were, and they were good before they left. 1838 01:17:34.640 --> 01:17:37.000 That's how they got there. So it was a weird 1839 01:17:37.079 --> 01:17:39.000 year in that regard, you know that and that having 1840 01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:41.920 that presence especially, you know, there was just a way 1841 01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:44.279 where they won that touchdown Pacific game, and it felt like, 1842 01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:45.600 are they gonna lose again this year? 1843 01:17:46.399 --> 01:17:49.840 Evidently yes, go for yeah, for sure. 1844 01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.600 So obviously we're here in BC and there's a lot 1845 01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:55.359 of rumors about what's gonna happen with this team's you know, 1846 01:17:55.479 --> 01:17:59.640 Rick Campbell's situation, the GM situation. Then we have what's 1847 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:03.319 happening in Edmonton and they're vacant GM and head coach positions. 1848 01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:05.600 What can you tell us about those two situations. 1849 01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:11.039 Well, the Lion's line and messaging, and this comes from 1850 01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:13.159 the very top of the organization you're talking about president 1851 01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:16.039 ownership level. Is that they will begin the discussion about 1852 01:18:16.079 --> 01:18:18.680 Rick Campbell's future next week. And then they gathered the 1853 01:18:18.760 --> 01:18:20.720 information and you know that my Mar's been out of 1854 01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:24.079 the country. They're running a great cup. I think that's true, 1855 01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:26.600 but I think it also means that they could still 1856 01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:29.039 know where this is trending, even if the decision hasn't 1857 01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:31.760 been made, and if they do go a different direction. 1858 01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:34.960 Now people are playing this is how we do it right, 1859 01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:35.760 You look for clues. 1860 01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:37.520 I mean, I think ed Hervey's going to be the 1861 01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.079 GM in Edmonton's my fault, you know, the ty Cats. 1862 01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:42.560 He doesn't seem to be not conducting business on that 1863 01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:44.520 behalf of the tay Cats until this is a resulting. 1864 01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:49.479 And so you know, ed Hervey already hired Rick Campbell 1865 01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:53.479 once NBC, right, and there seems to be a repatriation 1866 01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:58.159 of Edmonton people with Edmonton history in Edmonton. So you know, 1867 01:18:58.279 --> 01:19:00.119 I think a lot of this is speculation, but I 1868 01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:03.000 think it's intelligence speculation. And I sometimes say, we get 1869 01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:04.680 into this time of year, there's a very thin line 1870 01:19:04.720 --> 01:19:07.720 between reporting and predicting, you know, like you'd like to 1871 01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:10.720 see people that reporter prediction, I can tell you, right, 1872 01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:13.079 So I think that line, you know, trying to be 1873 01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:15.399 clear about that line. A lot of this is I 1874 01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.079 don't think any of this is done. But if the 1875 01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:19.439 dominoes fell that way, I don't think it surprised anybody. 1876 01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:22.239 You know that's that, you know, two weeks from now, 1877 01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:25.239 Rick Campbell's the head coach at Edmonton and Ed Hervey's GM, 1878 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.159 and I don't I don't think that would surprise a 1879 01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:28.600 lot of people. 1880 01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:31.279 Just curious your thoughts on Rick in general. I mean, 1881 01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:35.000 obviously VC is my team. I support, I appreciate everyone 1882 01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:37.000 that's done. You know, I can separate down out of 1883 01:19:37.119 --> 01:19:38.800 work for the team and and and you know the 1884 01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:42.880 criticisms Rick and even the McAboy, right, And like you said, 1885 01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:45.640 we've known these issues. It's been very similar issues the 1886 01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:48.079 last couple of years going into Winnipeg, being unable to 1887 01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:50.439 stop the run, being on physical, all those things. So 1888 01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:53.319 I guess just like overall thoughts and to help what 1889 01:19:53.479 --> 01:19:55.600 Rick and Neal have done here and they just it's 1890 01:19:55.640 --> 01:19:57.680 just so frustrated to me as a fan to kind 1891 01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:00.119 of like, no, we can see these issues and it 1892 01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:02.760 feels like they're not being addressed. They brought in Nathan, 1893 01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:04.880 they had nothing to do with the eighty percent of 1894 01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:06.840 the issues that the team was having outside of that. 1895 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:09.199 So to me, I'm just curious kind of your thoughts 1896 01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:12.439 overall of kind of how this has gone. Well, I mean, 1897 01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:15.079 it's I'm just on the quarterback thing. 1898 01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:18.439 I think it was logical that when when a guy 1899 01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:21.199 like Bernon Adams, who has as much commitment to that 1900 01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:25.319 team from the off season on, loses his opportunity, you know, 1901 01:20:25.439 --> 01:20:27.680 your best case scenario is that not all the locker 1902 01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:28.760 room is going to be on board for that. 1903 01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:29.960 And that's not a knock on date. 1904 01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:32.880 It's just like they rode with me a you know, 1905 01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:34.840 from the off season on, and we know what a 1906 01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:37.199 team first guy he is. It's very, very difficult to 1907 01:20:37.239 --> 01:20:39.439 make that kind of switch midseason and not have it 1908 01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:42.520 flow overflow into other aspects of your team, you know. 1909 01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.880 But I guess I don't really have an answer for 1910 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:49.720 you why that, Because it seemed like the Lions teams 1911 01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:51.640 are trending the right direction. They're trying the right direction. 1912 01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:53.199 Last year, you know, you had some holes and things 1913 01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:56.840 to address, and earlier in the year, I mean, look 1914 01:20:56.840 --> 01:20:58.000 at some of the things that have happened with this 1915 01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:01.359 team positively. I mean, justin kin with a backup in Saskatchewan. 1916 01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:02.680 Let the league of receiving. 1917 01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:06.560 You know, I thought Williams stand in particularly the first 1918 01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:08.560 two thirds of the season. 1919 01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:10.800 It was a real nice presence that they hadn't had, right. 1920 01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:12.479 That was one of those things, you know, who can 1921 01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:14.119 we give it to that can get us three yards 1922 01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.159 when we need it, but could also get us thirty 1923 01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:17.720 every once in a while. And they brought him in. 1924 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:19.960 So it was then And you say, you mentioned me 1925 01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:24.079 coming to bats every once in a while. Football, you 1926 01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:26.680 look at the organization, you go, they aren't a lot 1927 01:21:26.720 --> 01:21:29.000 of good players, but somehow they're not a great team, 1928 01:21:29.079 --> 01:21:30.399 and that that was kind of the line like I 1929 01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:32.600 had of trouble going personnel wise and saying, well, that's 1930 01:21:32.600 --> 01:21:34.640 allows the player that's allowed. Of the player, Barron could 1931 01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:36.279 do it maybe better than I did, would be watching 1932 01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:38.560 them up close and plays closer attention to them. But 1933 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:40.159 it doesn't strike me as a team that on an 1934 01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.479 individual individual basis on either side of the ball had 1935 01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:45.319 like extring weaknesses and personnel. It reminds me a few 1936 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:47.239 years ago in Winnipeg when they had like individually the 1937 01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:49.279 guys in the secondary were great. I remember talking to 1938 01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:51.920 the GM Kyle Walton's like, we love all our guys. 1939 01:21:52.159 --> 01:21:54.520 Second your individually, they just don't play out well together. 1940 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:56.279 And that's that's kind of frustrating. 1941 01:21:56.479 --> 01:21:58.560 Well, it's it's kind of like the Jets this season, 1942 01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:01.279 and obviously Rogers isn't very different, you know, but all that, 1943 01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:03.880 but just they here, We've assembled every great player in 1944 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:05.159 the world and everything, but none. 1945 01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:07.239 Of us play who he mean, there's just no Remember 1946 01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:09.880 twenty years ago the Philadelphia Eagles dream Team. Remember what 1947 01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:11.800 happened to that tho was when they had Michael Vick 1948 01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:16.439 and the dreamy and uh, you know, like awesome one, 1949 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:19.680 be awesome one. They signed all these guys and don't 1950 01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:21.960 look how they did. You know, it's not it's not 1951 01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:22.760 that kind of game. 1952 01:22:22.680 --> 01:22:22.840 You know. 1953 01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:25.880 Yeah, Vince Young did not foretell a prophecy there he 1954 01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:29.159 thought he did, but to stay on the quarterback for 1955 01:22:29.199 --> 01:22:32.319 a moment. Obviously, Bernond Adams was very open about the 1956 01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:34.560 very real possibility he will not be here in BC 1957 01:22:34.720 --> 01:22:37.520 next year. I know this is always a compliment his 1958 01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:41.479 team was, so it certainly it certainly was. How do 1959 01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:43.640 you see the quarterback market shaking out of? This is 1960 01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:45.399 a conversation every year, but it really seems like there 1961 01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:46.319 gonna be a lot of movement. 1962 01:22:46.760 --> 01:22:49.079 I think it's really interesting because a lot of years 1963 01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:51.239 it's been like, are there gonna be enough quarterbacks and 1964 01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:52.960 backup quarter quality backups to. 1965 01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:55.760 Go around the league? And this year we kind of 1966 01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:57.560 have a glut and I haven't. 1967 01:22:57.399 --> 01:22:59.199 Seen that before. And I should say we have a 1968 01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:02.600 glut of a players with a really high floor. We 1969 01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:04.840 don't necessarily have a lot of players with a high 1970 01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:07.479 seal in the league this year, but in terms of 1971 01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:09.239 guys that you look at and say, yeah, that guy 1972 01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:10.640 could be a starter in the league. 1973 01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:12.159 That guy could be a solid number two. 1974 01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.680 I think one through eighteen next year we could have 1975 01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.239 better one to two combinations across the league than we've 1976 01:23:17.279 --> 01:23:19.159 ever seen. And somebody is the product of younger players 1977 01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:21.279 getting to play. Not not proved for everybody to be 1978 01:23:21.359 --> 01:23:24.159 a starter, But you look at it. Everybody said three 1979 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:26.319 months ago, well, when they trade BA, they got to 1980 01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:27.840 trade in the East Division, they got they can't trade 1981 01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:28.520 within the division. 1982 01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:30.000 Where would that be? 1983 01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:32.239 Ain't going to the ain't going to Toronto, Ain't going 1984 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:34.239 to Ottawa, like going to Montreal, and you're not going 1985 01:23:34.279 --> 01:23:34.720 to hand like. 1986 01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:37.800 The only one of those situations we're not pretty certain. 1987 01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:39.319 About is Montreal, where they may have to make a 1988 01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:41.840 choice and they is there a way for them to 1989 01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:43.840 keep both guys. I talked to Dannyvijoch at the end 1990 01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:46.520 of the day, it's like, yeah, there might be, but 1991 01:23:46.640 --> 01:23:48.760 we're very cognizant of not wanting to get into one 1992 01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.199 of these situations where there's a weekly conversation about who. 1993 01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:52.199 Are starting quarterbacks. 1994 01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:54.319 They you know, they kind of see what went on 1995 01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:56.439 on the West Coast and maybe we don't want to have, 1996 01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:58.840 you know, two guys with similar contracts that have them 1997 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.079 been beating against each other after the week of practice. Now, 1998 01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:03.399 so I think they're going to go one or the other. 1999 01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:07.439 But then you go, okay, so Ba's moving somewhere. It's 2000 01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:11.399 going to be in the West, probably gonna be Calgary. 2001 01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:12.039 I mean, the PJ. 2002 01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:14.399 Walker contract that they signed is friendly enough that you 2003 01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:17.479 could have him and somebody else. It's basically a playtime 2004 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:20.680 deal with you know, two hundred thousand base leave some room. 2005 01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:24.680 I think Saskatchewan. I think they're satisfied with Trevor. But 2006 01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:26.960 life is about options, you know, and if that's that's 2007 01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:31.039 an option, they can certainly go there. And and Edmonton, 2008 01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:33.159 I mean, how do we predict until we really know 2009 01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:35.800 who that coaches. But maybe if it's or Campbell, you know, 2010 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:39.239 that makes a Vernon Adams move. Does he pull at 2011 01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:42.039 Jordan mccimick like there's you know, there's possibilities there, right, 2012 01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.199 So I mean, I think Bernond Adams is gonna be playing. 2013 01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:47.960 I would probably handicap him Calgary, Edminston's Saskatchewan. You know, 2014 01:24:48.039 --> 01:24:50.760 it's a likelihood. But it was a little awkward where 2015 01:24:51.359 --> 01:24:54.800 you know, Lion's management is not acknowledging what's going to happen. 2016 01:24:54.880 --> 01:24:58.079 This offseason and Nathan mark Is, you know, like he said, 2017 01:24:58.079 --> 01:25:00.039 I know where I'm gonna be next, you know, so 2018 01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:02.920 that means spurted out of taking a beat it. Yeah, 2019 01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:04.000 it's interesting for sure. 2020 01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:07.119 So my question is just overall, you look at the 2021 01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:10.399 season as a whole, what is the biggest storyline up 2022 01:25:10.399 --> 01:25:11.079 this whole season? 2023 01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:14.880 Is the big I mean, it's hard to get away 2024 01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:16.800 from the Bombers, you know, the zero to four start 2025 01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:19.239 and the finish right that to me, and I think 2026 01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:20.920 it was just almost and then this was maybe just 2027 01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:23.760 a sense of the parody of the league was just 2028 01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:26.720 how many teams went on either good runs or bad runs, 2029 01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.920 Like you know, Saskatchewan went seven winless. You know, Ottawa 2030 01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:33.479 nearly lost like what their last seven, you know, and 2031 01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:35.000 they were eight three and one in one point. 2032 01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:37.399 You have reliances who were five and oh you have 2033 01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:38.720 Saskatchewan it was five and oh. 2034 01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:41.159 So it was a weird year of streaks and again 2035 01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:43.680 and Edmonton, you know, and again the streaks of not 2036 01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:45.720 getting beat by thirty but getting beat by less of 2037 01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:47.880 a touchdown. You know, it just kind of made it 2038 01:25:47.960 --> 01:25:50.199 hard to sort of separate the teams, even though the 2039 01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:53.079 records in the standings were very distinctive. You look at 2040 01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:54.600 it and said, but there's three walk off. 2041 01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:57.399 Losses there, right, that's not necessarily defining for your team. 2042 01:25:57.800 --> 01:25:59.239 But I think it's hard to get past the Bomber 2043 01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:03.199 thing when you think of what they've accomplished and to 2044 01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:05.119 get off to an Owen court start with those home 2045 01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:07.680 losses and looking nothing like they did. And you know, 2046 01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:10.159 Michael Shay the other day, you don't need a need 2047 01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:12.279 jerk solution if you know why the things are happening 2048 01:26:12.359 --> 01:26:14.359 are happening. And one of the things that I talked 2049 01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:16.359 to when I did the coaching interview this week, you 2050 01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:19.760 mentioned one thing more. You know, he talked about the injuries, 2051 01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:23.880 he talked about guys not participating preseason, and he also 2052 01:26:23.880 --> 01:26:25.600 talked about that there were also some mistakes. They were 2053 01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.119 making the same mistakes more than once. Right, they say that, hey, 2054 01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:30.000 you make mistakes at football, but you got to correct 2055 01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.119 them and you can start making the same mistakes becomes 2056 01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:34.039 a little bit different. Turnovers, those kinds of things. But 2057 01:26:34.680 --> 01:26:36.600 to me, the Winni Big Blue Bombers are the story 2058 01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:37.119 of this season. 2059 01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:40.439 I want to tell we'll do this Saint Lewis thing 2060 01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:42.840 before you get out of here, I promise, but you know, 2061 01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:44.399 I want to get your thoughts. We talked a lot 2062 01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:47.319 obviously Randy today and everything. Your thoughts on you, Lany's, 2063 01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:48.479 Randy's legacy. 2064 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:49.840 And all of that. Kind of your thoughts is, Hey, 2065 01:26:49.880 --> 01:26:52.199 you know, where do we move next to this league? Well? 2066 01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:57.079 I think unfortunately, two things that will remember is is 2067 01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:00.800 he had two really hard, two really big initiatives, neither 2068 01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:03.479 of which came to really the fruition that people hope. 2069 01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:06.960 One was expansion, which is a tough nut. You know, 2070 01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:07.760 I know he said on the. 2071 01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:09.560 Stage the other day he thinks the tenth team is 2072 01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:10.119 in Canada. 2073 01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:15.720 Boy, I'll tell you, trying to finance a CFL suitable 2074 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:18.319 stadium in a market that does not have a team, 2075 01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:22.199 I mean, I won't use the word impossible, but I 2076 01:27:22.359 --> 01:27:24.479 hope nobody gives me that challenge. I mean, I just 2077 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:27.600 I think it's really really hard. Outdoor stadium construction in 2078 01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:31.279 Canada is really difficult, and when you're talking about the 2079 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:35.239 standard what's needed for a CFL team and the economics 2080 01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:37.800 of the league, I just don't know if it's doable. 2081 01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:39.840 I don't know if you'd ever get there. And I 2082 01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:42.039 say this would respector Randy's efforts. I don't think we're 2083 01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:44.800 any closer today than we were the day and office. 2084 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.000 The other one was CFL two point zero. You know, 2085 01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:50.279 the theory was that if you got players from around 2086 01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:52.279 the world playing in our league, you can create audiences 2087 01:27:52.359 --> 01:27:56.039 in their countries. To why it didn't, I didn't really. 2088 01:27:56.199 --> 01:27:58.640 I was willing to suspend disbelief out of the gate. 2089 01:27:58.479 --> 01:27:58.800 On that one. 2090 01:27:58.840 --> 01:28:01.159 I was like, Okay, it's outside of the box. I 2091 01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:03.359 don't really see it. And you know, now I was 2092 01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:05.960 thinking about the other day. I was like, there were 2093 01:28:06.199 --> 01:28:10.560 ten Canadians playing in a second tier German soccer league. 2094 01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:13.600 When people watch that on streaming, you know, like, and 2095 01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:15.439 I'm when I say second tier, I'm not trying to 2096 01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.720 be disreging Cee a Bellot to a global audience as 2097 01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:19.479 a second tier league, right if they know the national 2098 01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:22.600 football so you're gonna show them something else. I think, 2099 01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:25.399 you know, it's kind of unfortunate that those two major initiatives, 2100 01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:28.039 neither of them really helped the bottom line of the league. 2101 01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:30.600 But I think he look, three owners came in on 2102 01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:34.239 the right that was important, and two of them were 2103 01:28:34.279 --> 01:28:37.119 the exits of Bob Wetnall and David Brailey, who were 2104 01:28:37.319 --> 01:28:39.840 like absolutely for better or words, there was a bit 2105 01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:43.119 of ball, but we're absolute pillars of this league, you know, 2106 01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.880 for a quarter of a century, and you replaced them 2107 01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:49.039 with Pierre Carl Palado and a Mark Gong check Mark. 2108 01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:50.960 I think where the game is right now. 2109 01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:53.960 You know that the tweaking that they did, I think 2110 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.920 it's produced a very very compelling product. You know, that's 2111 01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:01.720 not an issue that anybody's going to have. And you know, 2112 01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:05.399 and I the genius sports thing, we don't really understand it. 2113 01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:07.079 It's digitization of our How. 2114 01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:09.399 Frustrating is that, like we're three years in now, we 2115 01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:10.520 don't understand what's going on. 2116 01:29:11.359 --> 01:29:15.439 Well, it's basically to you know, give the league data 2117 01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:19.960 that it can use for broadcast and gambling and look 2118 01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:23.399 at it hasn't brought the returns that people hoped, but 2119 01:29:23.560 --> 01:29:24.199 it's also. 2120 01:29:24.119 --> 01:29:25.760 Was promised to be more of a long term thing. 2121 01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:28.079 And you know, Randy certainly, when he's challenged about it, says, 2122 01:29:28.439 --> 01:29:30.359 you know, I believe the things that I've made foundations 2123 01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:32.319 for will bring returns to the leagues in the future. 2124 01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:35.720 So you know, all those things again, I think there's 2125 01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:37.319 a bit of an assumption that the league was always 2126 01:29:37.359 --> 01:29:41.159 going to survive the pandemic, I mean, not necessarily. There 2127 01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:43.000 was a reason they got into bed with the exbl 2128 01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:45.000 and for you know, as much as I reported about 2129 01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.239 how far that was down the path, you know, in 2130 01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:49.920 conversations I've had subsequently, including this week, it was a 2131 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:51.800 lot further down the path, and even we were reporting 2132 01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:53.119 and we were getting criticism for. 2133 01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:54.920 Reporting that it was further down the path that it was. 2134 01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:55.279 And I. 2135 01:29:56.880 --> 01:30:00.600 Think got with Duane Johnson, they got into com like 2136 01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:02.520 with him as a participant. 2137 01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:04.640 They got into how do we change the field, how 2138 01:30:04.680 --> 01:30:05.199 do we do this? 2139 01:30:05.359 --> 01:30:08.840 Like they were they were creating a hybrid game between 2140 01:30:08.880 --> 01:30:11.800 the Canadian and American football, and they were deep into 2141 01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:14.600 those conversations about what the game would look like. So 2142 01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:16.760 you know that was not fantasy, and I know they 2143 01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:19.680 never it was. You know, we're talking about talking. They 2144 01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:21.399 weren't talking about talking. They were talking about where the 2145 01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:23.239 outbig the field should be, and that's what they were 2146 01:30:23.279 --> 01:30:25.560 talking about. So you know, that was real and I 2147 01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:27.840 and I you know, I've taken a lot of criticism 2148 01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:30.640 for this, but I'll double down on it and clarify 2149 01:30:30.680 --> 01:30:32.840 a little bit. I never said they should merge with 2150 01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:36.159 the XFL. I said they should explore this bullet, that 2151 01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:38.159 they should walk down this path and see where it 2152 01:30:38.279 --> 01:30:41.199 leads them, and ultimately they decided it didn't lead them 2153 01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:41.920 where they wanted to be. 2154 01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:44.159 Okay, it probably made the right decision to give it. 2155 01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:47.159 What happened to the XFL, But you know, I think 2156 01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:50.479 that that you know that, and Brandy's made the point 2157 01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:54.119 that the conversation with the XFL did allow him to 2158 01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:56.439 give him some leverage to get some things done on 2159 01:30:56.560 --> 01:30:58.439 the internal business of the league that he might not 2160 01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:00.600 have been able to get without having that. So it was, 2161 01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:01.960 you know, it was a bit of a it did 2162 01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:06.279 turn into a productive element for it. So again, give 2163 01:31:06.319 --> 01:31:08.439 them a check mark. The leap got through the pandemic, 2164 01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:12.199 you know, So that's that's another one. So most commissioners 2165 01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:15.920 got some excess, we got some check marks. But I 2166 01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:18.359 mean I've covered like seven full time commissioners and two 2167 01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:20.880 or three interim guys as well, and they've all basically 2168 01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:23.199 been shown the door for the same bottom line reason, 2169 01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:25.399 didn't generate enough revenue for the teams. 2170 01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:28.439 And I think, you know, there's an interesting point for 2171 01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:28.960 the league. 2172 01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:31.079 Do you want to bring in another commissioner in five 2173 01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:34.279 years be showing him the door because he couldn't tell 2174 01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:36.199 your bicycle faster than the last guy, or do you 2175 01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:38.319 want a new bicycle and my new bicycle. That's when 2176 01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:41.239 we get into the conversation about, you know, fundamentally changing 2177 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:44.720 the league and what that might mean and how that 2178 01:31:44.840 --> 01:31:45.319 might happen. 2179 01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:47.159 Right, so let's see this, and then we got Timmy 2180 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:49.760 Clippe excuse me standing by Utah Saint Louis. 2181 01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:51.079 Right, we've seen the XFL. 2182 01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:53.399 The only one of the really only I would say 2183 01:31:53.479 --> 01:31:55.880 success is you know, it's funny that we talked now 2184 01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:58.119 about the XFL CFL talks and my thoughts on the 2185 01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:00.439 league and other ship versus now and but I was 2186 01:32:00.439 --> 01:32:04.119 an attire on things thin and I'm pretty disappointed right now. 2187 01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:07.279 But you know, we've we've seen that, you know, captivated 2188 01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:10.560 the audience in Saint Louis and Europe. Proponent of the lease, 2189 01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:13.079 exploring that, figuring out maybe do we move to Ceabo 2190 01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:14.680 tea the thoughts on that here. 2191 01:32:14.800 --> 01:32:16.920 I don't think that they will immediately. 2192 01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:18.760 Adopt a three down game and you can't just play, 2193 01:32:18.960 --> 01:32:20.399 you know, plug and play like they did back in 2194 01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:20.680 the day. 2195 01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:21.439 But thoughts on that. 2196 01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:24.520 I'm one of the few journalists here who lived through 2197 01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:27.960 the US expansion era. In fact, my kids exist because 2198 01:32:28.039 --> 01:32:29.960 of the US expansion era. I met their mom in 2199 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.039 an airport on my way to a Memphis Mad Dogs 2200 01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:34.880 for Maha Barrakudiski. I always tell my kids, so he 2201 01:32:34.920 --> 01:32:37.079 would be really grateful for the US expansion era. Without it, 2202 01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:40.840 you wouldn't let you wouldn't be, it wouldn't exist. And 2203 01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:43.800 there were a lot of interesting lessons about that, and 2204 01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:45.439 I think I got to put some context on the 2205 01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:47.600 US expansion era of the early nine mid nineties. 2206 01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:49.720 It was driven completely by crisis. 2207 01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:52.000 They never would have done it the way they did 2208 01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:55.039 it if they weren't like running for their lives. And 2209 01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:57.359 you can talk to people like Larry Smith and John 2210 01:32:57.399 --> 01:32:59.479 Torrey who can walk you through some of the risks 2211 01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:02.279 they took and some of the things they ignore because 2212 01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:06.279 you know, the check cleared man, you know, like that 2213 01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:08.399 was that was where the league was living. So first 2214 01:33:08.439 --> 01:33:10.359 thing I think if you were going to expand to 2215 01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:12.600 the US, the time to do it is when you're 2216 01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:15.000 not in a crisis, when you don't have owners around 2217 01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:16.600 the board of governor saying you know, I'm out of 2218 01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:18.399 this league in a year. If we can't think and 2219 01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:20.000 you're not so, I think, you know, you can do 2220 01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:22.840 it more by design and strategically than with you know, 2221 01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:25.319 the trying to outrun the grim Reaper, which is what 2222 01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:26.640 they were doing in the early nineties. 2223 01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:30.479 And Baltimore was unique. You know, Baltimore had a huge 2224 01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:33.359 anger of the National Football League, and I think it's 2225 01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:35.359 reflective of what is in Saint Louis now. 2226 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:39.239 And you know, when Baltimore had an opportunity, I mean 2227 01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:40.479 they were selling season tickets and. 2228 01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:41.079 Enter the gate. 2229 01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:42.920 They had a thing at one time called the Indie 2230 01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:44.800 Challenge where they were trying to get their season ticket 2231 01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:47.479 number over the Indianapolis Colts, the team that had left. 2232 01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:49.920 I don't think they did it, but they probably generated 2233 01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.439 some interesting some more season tickets just by people trying 2234 01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:52.920 to get there. 2235 01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:55.800 And you had people leaned in on it and they 2236 01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:57.720 basically said, that league left us. 2237 01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:00.840 This league's serving us, and we don't care for three 2238 01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:03.319 down football, we don't care for playing in Saskatchewan. 2239 01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:04.119 We're in. 2240 01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:07.640 And again I haven't been to Saint Louis, I haven't 2241 01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:09.319 talked to anybody, but I think if I was to 2242 01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:11.840 answer the question why is Saint Louis so much more 2243 01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:14.960 successful than all the other alternative football markets. It's because 2244 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.479 that spirit that existed in Baltimore in the early nineties 2245 01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:19.000 exists in Saint Louis. 2246 01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:20.359 And Reeve and I disagree on this. 2247 01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:22.640 I think if you if they were part of the 2248 01:34:22.680 --> 01:34:25.279 Canadian Football League, I think people are going to do 2249 01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:27.199 what they did in Baltimore, want to show up and 2250 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:29.840 cheer for their football team, and cheer professional football and 2251 01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:32.199 don't care if you punt on third down or if 2252 01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:34.039 you know there's a rouge or a or a no 2253 01:34:34.239 --> 01:34:36.760 yards penalty. I think the league needs to do a 2254 01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:38.840 better job of educating this American fans if it ever 2255 01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:40.840 goes down that road. But you know, I just came 2256 01:34:40.880 --> 01:34:42.479 out on a radio in any one day someone said, 2257 01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:44.039 you know, the UFL might not play out in twenty 2258 01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:46.319 twenty five, and I just said, if I was a CFL, 2259 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:49.439 I would try and pick off Saint Louis. 2260 01:34:49.479 --> 01:34:50.319 It's a ten team and the. 2261 01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:52.720 Other issues can come up as competitive If you can't, 2262 01:34:53.039 --> 01:34:56.960 you can't mandate Canadian players look thirty years ago, yet 2263 01:34:57.000 --> 01:34:59.479 have ten Canadian starters and the teams for the most 2264 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:03.399 part held row now it's seven, and I think we 2265 01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:06.279 all know the quality of those seven compared to the 2266 01:35:06.359 --> 01:35:09.479 quality of those ten, you know, compared to the generation. 2267 01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:13.319 I don't think you necessarily have a competitive issue with that. Well, Dave, 2268 01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:15.880 I appreciate it. Thanks for my thanks for the patient 2269 01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:18.399 and annual read. This is an annual right good, It's good. 2270 01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.000 Yeah, Dave's that by here, we're texting, we got anything on. 2271 01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:23.119 I appreciate it, Dave. Thanks for spending the time. We'll 2272 01:35:23.119 --> 01:35:23.800 see you later on. 2273 01:35:24.079 --> 01:35:26.560 Hey, thanks very much, and it's see your next breakup 2274 01:35:26.600 --> 01:35:27.399 and winn bag. 2275 01:35:27.439 --> 01:35:30.079 But we'll be DM well, I'm sure, yeah, we'll be there. 2276 01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:32.039 We'll talk to Saint Louis. What the UFL kind of 2277 01:35:32.079 --> 01:35:33.960 collapses in June. I'm sure we'll talk there. 2278 01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:36.079 All right, let's get timid Cliffe in here, who wants 2279 01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:36.960 to hop off for this one? 2280 01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:39.479 Real quick? Okay, we'll get Jason out. Andy's on. 2281 01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:41.840 We're doing the line change here, Tim and Cliffe here 2282 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:44.520 dabbing date Naylor like I said, guys like and subscribe. 2283 01:35:45.039 --> 01:35:47.079 We got the alright, excuse me, We've got Tim Clippe 2284 01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:49.359 coming on, Brian Scott's coming on. I think we got 2285 01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:51.359 Matt Baker and then Dorothy will close down. I see 2286 01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:54.600 Jim walking by too. Let's get ah, Well, let's get Jim. 2287 01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:54.960 In the minute. 2288 01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:57.119 He's coming there for like he's coming on. Well, we'll 2289 01:35:57.239 --> 01:35:59.159 Jim's got to wait a minute. But let's get them 2290 01:35:59.199 --> 01:36:00.880 on here. Let's get the moment we're tracking with Dave 2291 01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:03.600 the other bayway like and subscribe, join the channel. 2292 01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:06.800 Let's do all the good things here. Come on in, Fellas. 2293 01:36:07.159 --> 01:36:10.000 We got Cliffey. Here, we got Tim Capper. You can 2294 01:36:10.119 --> 01:36:11.640 use that. I'll hold Tim's for him. 2295 01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:16.640 Come on here, get on there, yeah, Tim, Now, welcome, gentlemen, 2296 01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:18.199 the Outlet's Fight Day Podcast. 2297 01:36:18.279 --> 01:36:21.079 We're here. We were really give my hand shake you. 2298 01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:26.520 Let's as the joke we always say is shake my hand, 2299 01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:28.479 right the guy on the airplane, I want to I 2300 01:36:28.560 --> 01:36:29.399 want to shake your hand. 2301 01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:34.000 You know, we really were hoping for a Montreal BC 2302 01:36:34.199 --> 01:36:37.119 great Cup. Really would have just combined all of our forces. 2303 01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:41.000 We are both so well here, what are your thoughts 2304 01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:42.800 on this? And then in Toronto kind of the you know, 2305 01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:44.880 the big upset in the game and that crazy place. 2306 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:48.760 I don't know, Yes, we can call it an upset. 2307 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:50.600 I guess I am kind of biased, but I mean 2308 01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:53.600 It's just that I look at the result of the 2309 01:36:53.680 --> 01:36:56.960 game based off what happened, is that it's more than 2310 01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:01.880 gave them the game than Toronto winning the game in 2311 01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:02.479 my opinion. 2312 01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:04.319 But I mean, it's it is what it is. 2313 01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:06.279 Toronto's here at the Great Cup, and whin it. They's 2314 01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:09.000 here at the Great Cup. So I mean, not much, 2315 01:37:09.079 --> 01:37:11.520 really much what I can say about it. It's disappointing, 2316 01:37:11.600 --> 01:37:12.000 it really is. 2317 01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:16.560 That's real, absolutely really just the mistakes aren't made in 2318 01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:20.119 the first quarter, the fumbles not just from Frajaro but 2319 01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:20.800 also Walter. 2320 01:37:20.680 --> 01:37:22.000 Fletcher as well, the giveaways. 2321 01:37:22.039 --> 01:37:24.560 I mean, there's just Montreal just dug themselves a hole 2322 01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:26.640 that they simply couldn't climb out of. They certainly tried 2323 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:28.760 like hell to do so, but they just weren't able 2324 01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:30.079 to get past those mistakes. 2325 01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:31.319 And hey, credit to Toronto. 2326 01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:35.319 Despite Chad Kelly getting injured in a horrific way, Toronto 2327 01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:36.880 still did what they had to do and they got 2328 01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:37.159 the w. 2329 01:37:37.359 --> 01:37:38.920 So that's why they're here and that's why the elements 2330 01:37:38.960 --> 01:37:39.920 are watching the game on TV. 2331 01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:43.520 I want to get your thoughts the Cody Davis, Alexander 2332 01:37:43.640 --> 01:37:46.399 Ry and and obviously you guys tracked the team way 2333 01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:48.239 more than I do, especially this year. I've just been 2334 01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:50.760 out to launch immediately a lot, doing my best to 2335 01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:53.800 kind of keep track of everything. But what's going on there, 2336 01:37:53.880 --> 01:37:55.560 you know, it feels like it's too much of a 2337 01:37:55.600 --> 01:37:57.199 good thing. I'm just curious your thoughts on that and 2338 01:37:57.239 --> 01:37:57.840 what's gonna happen. 2339 01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.520 I've already said it multiple times and would have been 2340 01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:02.800 here at break up around the pod this past week. 2341 01:38:03.359 --> 01:38:06.479 I've never expected to have a quarterback controversy on my 2342 01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:08.760 fingo card for the Alouetz in the offseason. 2343 01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:12.119 It's gonna be very interesting and and you know, especially 2344 01:38:12.159 --> 01:38:13.159 for those whoppen. 2345 01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:15.479 To watch the Alouetz post game, you know, state of 2346 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.920 the Press conference at the end of the year, just 2347 01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:22.279 the answers alone coming from Danny Mack and from Jason 2348 01:38:22.359 --> 01:38:26.840 mossa seen, in my opinion to be very telling. Javis 2349 01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:28.880 Alider to me, whether he was brought you know, whether 2350 01:38:28.960 --> 01:38:31.359 even though he's not a Canadian kid, he's still a 2351 01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:33.760 homegrown talent in my opinion, because of how he was 2352 01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:36.359 brought in by Danny Mack and he's waited his time 2353 01:38:36.479 --> 01:38:38.840 and he has you've seen in the four plus games 2354 01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:40.960 that he started this year, even though you have four 2355 01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:43.960 wins and then won in relief, the guy really deserves 2356 01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:44.359 a shot. 2357 01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:47.199 How is this gonna play out this offseason? 2358 01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:50.520 It's gonna be very interesting if you'd be curious to 2359 01:38:50.560 --> 01:38:52.760 see what type of decisions that they make, whether they 2360 01:38:52.800 --> 01:38:56.159 Ouski won or they get rid of one and then 2361 01:38:56.199 --> 01:38:56.880 we signed another. 2362 01:38:57.199 --> 01:39:00.439 But that that's that will be one of the for 2363 01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:02.079 the season. Curious your thoughts. 2364 01:39:02.760 --> 01:39:04.920 Yeah, it's gonna be a very interesting situation, even if 2365 01:39:04.960 --> 01:39:07.800 you go by the body language and the answers to 2366 01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:10.399 the questions from both Cody Fichardo and from Davis Alexander. 2367 01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:13.319 They both want to be the man, and David Alexander 2368 01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:15.119 has proven that he can be a starter in this 2369 01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:18.039 league and win games in this league. Codif Fiardo obviously 2370 01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:19.960 brought a great Cup to the Alouettes, so I mean 2371 01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:24.760 he definitely deserves that consideration as well. So just based 2372 01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:26.159 on that alone, I don't know if you could really 2373 01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:28.199 do like a one A one B situation and have 2374 01:39:28.319 --> 01:39:29.800 them live harmoniously together. 2375 01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:31.560 It really does sound like both of them. 2376 01:39:31.479 --> 01:39:33.760 Want to be the man in Montreal, and it's gonna 2377 01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:36.439 come down to a simple matter of Okay, who are 2378 01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:40.720 the alowettes like the organization like Danny Moss Jason or sorry, 2379 01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:42.239 Danny machoja Jason Moss. 2380 01:39:43.640 --> 01:39:44.439 Who are they gonna go with? 2381 01:39:44.520 --> 01:39:46.279 Are they gonna go with the guy that brought them 2382 01:39:46.319 --> 01:39:48.359 the Great Cup or the guy that they've basically nurtured 2383 01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:51.359 from day one to eventually be the future in Montreal 2384 01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:52.279 and Daves Alexander. 2385 01:39:52.319 --> 01:39:55.520 It's gonna be a very very interesting offseason. There's no 2386 01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:56.119 doubt about that. 2387 01:39:56.520 --> 01:39:58.560 I'm gonna let you ask a question. I'm gonna tuck 2388 01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:01.359 out here real quick before we our home. Stretcher running out, 2389 01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:02.279 So why don't you give a question? 2390 01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:03.880 I'll let you. Guys just want to right back in. 2391 01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:08.399 Yeah, as you guys alluded to, Davis Alexander was obviously 2392 01:40:08.439 --> 01:40:10.520 the best kept secret in montreal Land. You guys were 2393 01:40:10.680 --> 01:40:14.520 on him before anybody else was. But as you also mentioned, 2394 01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:18.199 Richardo has clearly proven himself. He's won a Great Cup. 2395 01:40:18.680 --> 01:40:20.760 He's almost kind of in a way that, it seems 2396 01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:23.279 to me, at least from my perspective, he's the spiritual 2397 01:40:23.359 --> 01:40:26.239 leader in a lot of ways because of his attitude, 2398 01:40:26.359 --> 01:40:29.159 his his camaraderie, the way he presents himself. Do you 2399 01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:31.479 think that gives him more currency in staying around or 2400 01:40:31.479 --> 01:40:32.920 do you think at the end of the day that 2401 01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:35.880 Montreal might be okay with cutting their ties in that 2402 01:40:35.960 --> 01:40:39.079 way because you said Davis Alexander is the product of 2403 01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:39.439 the team. 2404 01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:39.880 That's it. 2405 01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:42.359 We were talking about the future of the Alouettes. That's 2406 01:40:42.399 --> 01:40:43.920 the direction you're happy be looking at it. Again, I 2407 01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:45.760 don't want to take anything away from what Cordy from 2408 01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:46.279 Journal's done. 2409 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:47.840 I mean, he's proven himself. 2410 01:40:48.399 --> 01:40:50.239 I mean he's he's shown the love to Montreal and 2411 01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:52.920 Montreal has showed him love back to him. Getting that 2412 01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:56.640 great Cup win definitely has cemented him among those. 2413 01:40:56.479 --> 01:40:58.079 Quarterbacks as far as I'm concerned. 2414 01:40:58.119 --> 01:40:59.680 I mean, it was just the one year, but still 2415 01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:01.800 for what he was able to do, and that that 2416 01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:05.680 warrior mentality that he has definitely speaks volumes and people 2417 01:41:05.800 --> 01:41:08.119 do love Cody Frijardow with Montreal, There's no two ways 2418 01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:10.720 about it. But what David Alexander was able to do 2419 01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:13.319 this year stepping into a relief when Cody got hurt 2420 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:16.479 and performed admirably, I mean argue, but you can say 2421 01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:19.720 five to zero as a starter and the team rallied 2422 01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:21.000 behind Davis Alexander two. 2423 01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:23.279 But when Cablin Nevis came in and relief for Cody 2424 01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:24.119 Vijardo the first time. 2425 01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:28.279 He didn't exactly have that same oopft Dave Alexander did 2426 01:41:28.359 --> 01:41:31.600 when he stepped in it against Saskatchewan, won the game 2427 01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:34.000 there and just kept on going. And also to the 2428 01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:37.560 body language too for Daves Alexander when he was watching 2429 01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:40.239 that Eastern Final, like you could tell it in his mind, 2430 01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:41.479 He's like, I should be out there. 2431 01:41:41.560 --> 01:41:42.640 That's gotta be me doing that. 2432 01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:46.439 And that too, I think maybe has played a lot 2433 01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:48.760 into how he feels and how he how he sees 2434 01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:51.560 things going forward, like he's he basically said, I gotta 2435 01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:53.279 see how the rest of this league shapes out, like 2436 01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:56.680 once free agency gets underway and what's out there for me? 2437 01:41:57.239 --> 01:41:59.319 And I don't blame one hundred percent. You got to 2438 01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:02.000 take care of you. I mean, as much as all we'd. 2439 01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:03.600 Love to have Davis year and I think keep down 2440 01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:06.000 Yellows organization wants to do whatever they can. 2441 01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:08.359 To keep you as Alexander in Red and Blue. 2442 01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:11.279 But ultimately it's gonna come down to, uh, you know 2443 01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:13.560 what happens in free agency, Like a lot of Donald's 2444 01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:15.239 gonna be falling once the very Cup gets handed out, 2445 01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:16.920 but it's definite gonna. 2446 01:42:16.680 --> 01:42:18.640 Make for a very very interesting offseason. 2447 01:42:20.159 --> 01:42:21.800 I've got some of the game here. We'll speak in 2448 01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:23.760 Jim before I got bro. I think Brian Scott's coming 2449 01:42:23.800 --> 01:42:25.479 here in the middle of plot here at the end 2450 01:42:25.520 --> 01:42:26.880 of the thoughts on the game of who do you got? 2451 01:42:28.239 --> 01:42:30.800 I even though you know we did, you know from 2452 01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:31.920 the East, it's like, you know, I want to to 2453 01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:33.840 the r is to win and stuff like that. I mean, 2454 01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:36.079 it's like I'm kind of going into the game as 2455 01:42:36.119 --> 01:42:40.039 a go team CFL type of thing because I just 2456 01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:43.039 hope both teams have fun exact that he and nobody 2457 01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:47.119 gets hurt. I'm curious to see what what type of 2458 01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:51.079 game this is going to be? Uh what which Toronto 2459 01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:53.039 teamber are we going to get? I mean, as I 2460 01:42:53.079 --> 01:42:56.800 said earlier, is that I don't think Toronto won the 2461 01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:00.479 game as much as they were given the game. Uh Toronto, 2462 01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:03.600 you know, even though the Alves had six turnovers, they 2463 01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:04.600 only lost my two. 2464 01:43:05.520 --> 01:43:08.079 So I think it really goes to show, you know, 2465 01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:13.560 was it the Olves that that gave the rs the game? 2466 01:43:13.800 --> 01:43:14.640 But you know they did. 2467 01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:18.279 But in my opinion, I could be totally wrong, but 2468 01:43:18.399 --> 01:43:20.000 just my looking at the line itself, and I know 2469 01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:23.039 the line can be very misleading. I honestly think Winnipeg 2470 01:43:23.199 --> 01:43:24.760 is not I don't think it's gonna be even close. 2471 01:43:24.760 --> 01:43:26.680 I think Winnipeg is just gonna win this win this 2472 01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:27.439 game going away. 2473 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.840 Again, You're talking about both teams that basically came in hot, 2474 01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:34.199 like really hot, at the right time. I mean, you 2475 01:43:34.199 --> 01:43:36.600 can make the argument that both Winnipeg and Toronto they 2476 01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:38.399 did what they had to do to get to this game, 2477 01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:41.800 so both have a sa an equal chance. But not 2478 01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:44.159 having Chad Kelly in the lineup is definitely gonna make 2479 01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:46.239 a big factor. There's no question about that. I mean, Zach, 2480 01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:48.479 they always say go with the most experienced quarterback, and 2481 01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:51.279 Zach Clarro's easily has a lot more experience than what 2482 01:43:51.520 --> 01:43:52.439 Nick Carbuckle does. 2483 01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:54.840 I definitely think it'll be a good game no matter what. 2484 01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:58.399 But I mean, I I've said before and I said again, 2485 01:43:58.439 --> 01:44:01.119 I don't see how Winnipeg lose this game. But we 2486 01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:03.319 also maybe said that a little bit last year and 2487 01:44:03.439 --> 01:44:06.000 year before. Anytime Winnipeg's in the game, they absolutely have 2488 01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:08.479 a fighting chance. But I think a lot of pressure 2489 01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:10.840 is on them too, because I'll just talk about dynasty 2490 01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:13.600 with Winnipeg Goo Bombers. They won their first two Great 2491 01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:16.920 Cup games, you know, in the in this time period. 2492 01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:19.560 Then they lost the last two Great Cup Games. So 2493 01:44:19.680 --> 01:44:21.119 now the pressure's on. If you really want to be 2494 01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:23.880 conservative Dynasty, you gotta win on Sunday. 2495 01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:27.720 I go one more here, I'm detection Bryant Sky here directions, 2496 01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:28.680 give one more question for that. 2497 01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:31.960 We'll bring in Jimullen Well to that too, because at 2498 01:44:32.079 --> 01:44:34.520 least again from my effective last year, I think you 2499 01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:37.319 guys were probably definitely not favored in that game, and 2500 01:44:37.359 --> 01:44:39.119 I think it was wonderful to see so and like 2501 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:42.319 Gerardo really transcend and step up in such a crucial moment. 2502 01:44:43.239 --> 01:44:45.279 Who does that player have to be for Toronto if 2503 01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:46.680 they want to have a chance of winning this game. 2504 01:44:48.239 --> 01:44:51.479 I'm gonna say Kadeen Kerry. I think he's proven himself 2505 01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:54.319 to be a true leader on this Argos team. I mean, 2506 01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:56.520 Chad Kelly would obviously be the guy, but I mean 2507 01:44:56.600 --> 01:44:58.800 Kadeen Kerry went to mcmannus. Those are two guys that 2508 01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:01.000 I look at as their leaders, like those are the 2509 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:02.560 guys that are gonna pick the guys up by their 2510 01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:04.119 their pads. 2511 01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:06.119 And say hey, let's go. This is a championship game. 2512 01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:07.199 It's winner go home. 2513 01:45:07.720 --> 01:45:09.359 I fully expect those guys to be the ones that 2514 01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:12.520 are gonna rally the troops like that fire under East everybody. 2515 01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:15.840 So if you were asked me, I'd say either Carry 2516 01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:18.359 or McManus as far as the go to guys that 2517 01:45:18.479 --> 01:45:19.399 really fire everybody up. 2518 01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:22.439 No, I was gonna say the exact same thing here. 2519 01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:23.800 We'll come down a couple of things. I think in 2520 01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:27.159 Toronto's able to uh really control the running game. 2521 01:45:27.199 --> 01:45:29.680 I mean they're great on the Winnipeg's side obviously too. 2522 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:33.319 But as we've seen, especially last week with thee alo lets, Uh, 2523 01:45:33.479 --> 01:45:35.760 these special teams can make a huge difference. And I 2524 01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:39.239 would not be surprised if if if Toronto's special teams 2525 01:45:39.279 --> 01:45:41.319 make it, it's a huge statement and keeps him in 2526 01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:41.680 this game. 2527 01:45:42.119 --> 01:45:42.439 That's true. 2528 01:45:42.479 --> 01:45:45.359 They got Lamla who kicking field goals, Jener and Grant 2529 01:45:45.439 --> 01:45:48.319 returning kicks as well. I mean, yes, special teams could 2530 01:45:48.359 --> 01:45:49.800 play a very big factor for Toronto. 2531 01:45:50.119 --> 01:45:52.239 Jeneerian Grant's like Devin Hester of the CFL. 2532 01:45:52.319 --> 01:45:54.279 I mean, he why do teams even bother kicking it 2533 01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:57.119 to him? Like anybody? It really blows my mind. He's incredible, 2534 01:45:57.239 --> 01:45:59.520 It really is. He absolutely is, and it's kind of 2535 01:45:59.520 --> 01:45:59.880 funny too. 2536 01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:01.680 He's also got a little bit of motivation as well, 2537 01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:04.640 considering he's a former Winnipeg Blue Bomber and now he's 2538 01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:07.119 facing his former team for the championship. I mean, he's 2539 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:09.479 already going to break up ring with the Blue Bombers, 2540 01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:10.800 but now he has a chance to add one as 2541 01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:13.279 an argonaut, just as a reminder, like, Hey, I used 2542 01:46:13.279 --> 01:46:13.960 to be with you guys. 2543 01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:18.079 Now now I'm here to beat you, so go. 2544 01:46:18.399 --> 01:46:20.119 If that doesn't motivate you, if you're a player that 2545 01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:22.000 doesn't motivate you as well, then I don't have to 2546 01:46:22.039 --> 01:46:24.640 tell you. All right, let's see the swap here. Let's 2547 01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:25.199 bring in Jim. 2548 01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:28.000 Jason can come back on Brian's Texan he summer. We'll 2549 01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:28.920 get it going. Next guys. 2550 01:46:28.960 --> 01:46:31.000 I appreciate it. There we go, There we go, next, guys, 2551 01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:35.920 Jim Tech. We're texting guys here like and subscribe me 2552 01:46:36.119 --> 01:46:38.359 and bar the the adventure. We'll see you guys. I 2553 01:46:38.439 --> 01:46:41.920 appreciate it. Let's get Jason. Let's get Jim in. 2554 01:46:42.600 --> 01:46:45.159 We got a longtime friend he's been sitting around here. 2555 01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:47.439 And then we'll we'll get brian On, We'll get Matt, 2556 01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:49.359 We'll get we'll get Dorothy and then we'll get out 2557 01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:49.520 of here. 2558 01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:53.840 Should we get Jason's back to Mullens here, Jim, how 2559 01:46:53.880 --> 01:46:55.720 are you? I'm good, I'm good. 2560 01:46:55.760 --> 01:46:58.159 Hey, we're doing video. Look, Hey to advertised. That's where 2561 01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:00.560 I'm going. You're vice president of That's good. 2562 01:47:00.640 --> 01:47:01.560 Talk about how busy you are? 2563 01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:05.800 I now, I am very busy, not only with the IPAF, 2564 01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:08.479 but of course we have Great Iron Nation on TSN. 2565 01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:12.680 It's on every Thursday and Friday in the afternoons. It's 2566 01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:17.439 all about college football and how it relates to Canadians 2567 01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:21.560 in college football, whether we are talking about U sports 2568 01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:24.880 or whether we are talking about Canadians in the NCAA. 2569 01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:28.800 And Nathan's little brother has given us some great stuff 2570 01:47:28.840 --> 01:47:29.920 to talk about this year. 2571 01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:34.159 I'm curious your thoughts, obviously Vancouver here and everything else. 2572 01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:36.279 Thoughts on the Lions season and not being here. 2573 01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:41.079 A tremendous disappointment, especially after the start. I'm glad to 2574 01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:44.000 hear through the rumor mill that there are changes coming 2575 01:47:44.079 --> 01:47:47.800 to the Lions front office. If we are to believe 2576 01:47:47.920 --> 01:47:53.720 those rumors, and why not, there's a good escape plan 2577 01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:57.159 for coach Campbell, if he chooses it to Edmonton, looks 2578 01:47:57.199 --> 01:47:59.199 like you're trying to put the band back together in 2579 01:47:59.399 --> 01:48:03.399 Edmonton from the nineteen seventies and nineteen eighties, and he's 2580 01:48:03.439 --> 01:48:06.640 the scion of that. Of course, you Campbell winning five 2581 01:48:06.720 --> 01:48:12.680 breakups with the Eskimos back in the day. So Ryan 2582 01:48:12.760 --> 01:48:16.479 rig Maiden is if he steps up as a general manager, 2583 01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:20.760 I believe that is a healthy upgrade in this organization. 2584 01:48:21.199 --> 01:48:25.000 And they're talking about reconfiguration, then who steps up as 2585 01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:28.359 the head coach? If you look at CFL teams these days, 2586 01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:33.079 guys with guys that are coaches and general managers. 2587 01:48:33.239 --> 01:48:34.560 It's too much for one guy. 2588 01:48:35.359 --> 01:48:38.399 And it's not just the amount of work that's involved 2589 01:48:38.439 --> 01:48:41.159 for one guy, but it's the relationships that you have 2590 01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:45.079 in the dressing room. You cannot be a player's coach 2591 01:48:45.560 --> 01:48:48.640 and then as soon as that season ends, turn around 2592 01:48:49.079 --> 01:48:52.199 and then start to negotiate with these guys, we're starting 2593 01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:54.920 to cut them before their bonus is got in. You 2594 01:48:55.079 --> 01:48:57.600 can't balance the two. Either you've got to be a 2595 01:48:57.720 --> 01:48:58.479 black hat. 2596 01:48:58.600 --> 01:48:59.319 Through and through. 2597 01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:03.960 That's hard to do with the modern athlete, or you 2598 01:49:04.039 --> 01:49:06.520 got to separate the jobs. So if the Lions are 2599 01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:09.079 separating the jobs. I think they're doing the right move here. 2600 01:49:10.640 --> 01:49:12.239 Go for I was gonna say on that note, I 2601 01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:14.399 know the season didn't go the way that the DC 2602 01:49:14.520 --> 01:49:16.960 Lions expected, but how have you felt about the overall 2603 01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:18.399 presentation here in Vancouver. 2604 01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:20.439 Oh, it's fantastic. 2605 01:49:21.039 --> 01:49:23.479 It's a giant upgrade from the last days of the 2606 01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:29.159 David Brayley era. You know, there was management that needed 2607 01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:31.239 to go on with the estate. They were working on 2608 01:49:31.359 --> 01:49:34.680 a fairly small budget. We understand all of those things. 2609 01:49:35.279 --> 01:49:41.520 But Amar understands sizzle, but he also understands state. He 2610 01:49:41.800 --> 01:49:46.840 understands that you need to beyond the presentation. You need 2611 01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:49.119 to do the things in the community to build the 2612 01:49:49.159 --> 01:49:53.960 football community. We're about five hundred and seventy days after 2613 01:49:54.199 --> 01:49:58.800 SFU have quoted their program up on Burnaby Mountain. He's 2614 01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:02.680 still there making proclamations if we're bringing this thing back. 2615 01:50:02.840 --> 01:50:05.640 He's still there with half a million dollars to put 2616 01:50:05.720 --> 01:50:10.800 into the program, right, He's still there supporting all those 2617 01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:14.039 things in the grassroots community. And the one thing that 2618 01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.239 I saw in the last Lions game that I was 2619 01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:20.279 at was a lot of kids in the stands and 2620 01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:23.039 a lot of kids in the stands wearing minor football jerseys. 2621 01:50:23.359 --> 01:50:26.439 And that's part of the evolution that needs to go 2622 01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:30.439 on with a team in a league that is completely 2623 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:34.560 driven outside of your salary cap being covered by. 2624 01:50:34.479 --> 01:50:35.359 Your TV unit. 2625 01:50:36.640 --> 01:50:39.439 Yeah, so I wanted to talk about the Canadian content 2626 01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:42.960 in the CFL. Now, I believe I saw that this 2627 01:50:42.960 --> 01:50:45.640 is the first time we've ever had the leading rusher 2628 01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:49.000 and receiver be Canadian. Can you speak about the importance 2629 01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:51.239 of Canadian content in the CFL right now? 2630 01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:54.840 Well, you know what, It's not just Canadian content in 2631 01:50:54.920 --> 01:50:57.680 the CFL. It's Canadian content and football. When you take 2632 01:50:57.720 --> 01:51:01.560 a look at some of the leading performers in the NFL, 2633 01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:04.279 whether you're looking at uh at a guy like Chase 2634 01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:08.079 Brown with Cincinnati, whether you're looking at John Metchi and 2635 01:51:08.760 --> 01:51:11.560 in Houston. I mean I could start going down the list. 2636 01:51:11.720 --> 01:51:14.439 There is a long, long CHEWBA Hubbard is having a 2637 01:51:14.479 --> 01:51:15.439 great season this year. 2638 01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:17.039 Oh, I dropped him off my fantasy team. It's the 2639 01:51:17.039 --> 01:51:18.199 biggest regret I made so far. 2640 01:51:19.239 --> 01:51:23.359 Well, look, you know what I mentioned, Nathan's little not 2641 01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:25.880 so little brother, Curtis Roord. 2642 01:51:26.520 --> 01:51:28.159 I first met Curtis when we were. 2643 01:51:28.159 --> 01:51:31.680 Handing out the Cornish Trophy to Nathan and somebody taps 2644 01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:34.319 me on the shoulder and I turned around and it's 2645 01:51:34.359 --> 01:51:38.399 this larger version at Nathan as a teenager with this big, 2646 01:51:38.439 --> 01:51:41.680 geeky smile. Hi, my name is Curtis, and he's shaking 2647 01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:45.039 my head like like you could tell that that that 2648 01:51:45.279 --> 01:51:48.880 he had the frame that Nathan didn't have right and 2649 01:51:48.960 --> 01:51:53.560 that he had to grow into it, you know, watching 2650 01:51:53.680 --> 01:51:58.520 his development at Ohio and then watching him turn into 2651 01:51:58.680 --> 01:52:01.239 what he has turned into with this ten and zero 2652 01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:05.600 Indiana team. That's another testament to Canadian talent. And even 2653 01:52:06.039 --> 01:52:08.760 more so than Nathan. You spent a senior year in 2654 01:52:08.840 --> 01:52:12.760 Canada playing high school football in Canada at a Catholic 2655 01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:17.920 school in Toronto, So unlike going through through an academy 2656 01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:22.039 process that a lot of Canadians do these days, leaving 2657 01:52:22.119 --> 01:52:25.119 home in grade ten and grade eleven. This is a 2658 01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:26.960 kid that, even though he did spend some time in 2659 01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:30.159 the States, came back to Canada, was the MAC player 2660 01:52:30.199 --> 01:52:34.680 of the year and now has probably upgraded enough through 2661 01:52:34.760 --> 01:52:38.239 that system in Indiana where he is going to be 2662 01:52:38.319 --> 01:52:41.399 a late round draft pick. Right That's where we are 2663 01:52:41.520 --> 01:52:47.399 in skilled positions with Canadians. One of the conundrums for 2664 01:52:47.479 --> 01:52:51.520 the CFL though, is all the best Canadians are played 2665 01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:52.520 in the NFL that. 2666 01:52:52.720 --> 01:52:54.000 Never used to happen before. 2667 01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:57.239 We have about four or five or a dual passport 2668 01:52:57.359 --> 01:52:59.880 holder or something like that there. 2669 01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:02.520 I think the number is up to twenty three. 2670 01:53:02.640 --> 01:53:05.640 It might be around twenty four that are on NFL 2671 01:53:05.840 --> 01:53:09.159 rosters right now, and so that then has an impact 2672 01:53:09.279 --> 01:53:12.239 on the rosters of the Canadian Football League. But as 2673 01:53:12.279 --> 01:53:15.439 you guys point out, look at the top performers in 2674 01:53:15.479 --> 01:53:18.920 the CFL, I still think that the ratio needs to 2675 01:53:19.079 --> 01:53:23.439 exist though, because there are guys that didn't get exposure 2676 01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:27.039 to coaching, that didn't get exposure to training, that need 2677 01:53:27.199 --> 01:53:30.640 to get in those first two years. Brady Oliver is 2678 01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:32.960 a good example of that. Even though he played at 2679 01:53:33.239 --> 01:53:35.560 North Dakota. I went down and saw him play in 2680 01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:39.000 North Dakota as a sophomore. A guy that was quick, 2681 01:53:39.479 --> 01:53:43.279 a guy that had trained hard, a guy that hit holes. 2682 01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:46.439 With purpose, but he. 2683 01:53:46.479 --> 01:53:47.560 Didn't have that patience. 2684 01:53:47.680 --> 01:53:50.199 He didn't have that step, he didn't have those moves 2685 01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:54.560 get he didn't give those half hits up to defenders. 2686 01:53:54.840 --> 01:53:57.119 That's something that he needed to learn in his first 2687 01:53:57.159 --> 01:53:59.479 couple of years in the CFL and that comes with 2688 01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:01.960 that pro level of coting. So I think that's what 2689 01:54:02.039 --> 01:54:05.119 you're seeing with this group of Canadians in the CFL. 2690 01:54:05.600 --> 01:54:07.720 I got one more question. We'll bringing Brian Scott. We 2691 01:54:07.760 --> 01:54:09.880 got them standing by, Just curious your thoughts. Going back 2692 01:54:09.880 --> 01:54:12.720 to Nathan and the Lions here. Obviously not the ideal 2693 01:54:12.840 --> 01:54:15.079 situation coming in and we've talked a lot today about 2694 01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:17.640 and everything. Is it enough for him to reset in 2695 01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:20.239 the off season, you know, coming in here halfway through 2696 01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:21.680 and all that. What do you make of his feature 2697 01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:24.159 because the Lions made a huge, huge investment. 2698 01:54:23.800 --> 01:54:24.439 That commitment down. 2699 01:54:24.600 --> 01:54:27.039 Well, you and I had a side conversation about this, 2700 01:54:27.720 --> 01:54:31.560 sending messages back and forth when he was available, right 2701 01:54:31.920 --> 01:54:34.960 and you know what my perception was at the time, 2702 01:54:35.520 --> 01:54:39.279 he should still try to find another NFL camp, run 2703 01:54:39.399 --> 01:54:42.279 that thing out, and then come in fresh to a 2704 01:54:42.359 --> 01:54:46.279 CFL camp. The opportunity was there for the Lions to 2705 01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:50.199 grab Nathan, sign him to a contract and a great 2706 01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:52.600 Cup year. I don't blame them for trying, but I 2707 01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:55.359 think in terms of the football process, he'd been with 2708 01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:58.039 too many teams and too many situations, and the kid's 2709 01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:04.560 brain was frying quite Frank he had actually shown something 2710 01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:07.319 better than what the record indicated to. He was pulled 2711 01:55:07.319 --> 01:55:12.439 out of a game at halftime after putting together a 2712 01:55:12.600 --> 01:55:17.520 convincing drive. A total head scratcher. In my opinion, I 2713 01:55:17.680 --> 01:55:20.920 think he was great between the twenties. Right as soon 2714 01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:22.800 as he got into the red zoner at his back 2715 01:55:22.880 --> 01:55:26.399 to the goal post, he was prone to mistakes of 2716 01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:29.800 that offense and plus that pass protection was just awful 2717 01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:32.560 this year with the Lions Steam and they didn't take 2718 01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:36.520 advantage of William standback. But in terms of having him here, 2719 01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:39.560 why would you not want to have him here? Nothing 2720 01:55:39.600 --> 01:55:40.159 against Va? 2721 01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:41.279 You know, I love Va. 2722 01:55:41.680 --> 01:55:43.920 You know I love Va and what he brings, and 2723 01:55:44.039 --> 01:55:47.800 I love what his evolution has been as a person 2724 01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:51.600 and as a quarterback and as he approaches the game. 2725 01:55:52.199 --> 01:55:55.399 But when it comes when it comes to Nathan, you 2726 01:55:55.520 --> 01:55:58.720 got star power there. You got twenty twenty two. He's 2727 01:55:58.760 --> 01:56:01.199 going to put twenty twenty two back on the field again, 2728 01:56:01.600 --> 01:56:03.920 and he's going to have a brother in the NFL, 2729 01:56:04.239 --> 01:56:06.720 and that's going to bring star power into the stands. 2730 01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:08.560 Why would you not have that? 2731 01:56:08.840 --> 01:56:12.239 And that's where that marketing money that they're paying him 2732 01:56:12.359 --> 01:56:16.239 on top of the salary kicks in right. When Curtis 2733 01:56:16.439 --> 01:56:20.079 Rourke is third or fourth in Heisman voting, when he 2734 01:56:20.279 --> 01:56:23.520 gets drafted into the NFL, when he shows up with 2735 01:56:23.640 --> 01:56:27.239 the family, when he brings teammates with him, that just 2736 01:56:27.479 --> 01:56:31.000 amplifies what Nathan Burke is doing on the field, and 2737 01:56:31.119 --> 01:56:34.119 that's what people go for. You gotta have this guy 2738 01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:36.680 in this and you gotta have a guy in this 2739 01:56:36.880 --> 01:56:40.039 town that says I want to be here, and that's 2740 01:56:40.119 --> 01:56:40.720 what he's saying. 2741 01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:43.880 Well, Jim, I appreciate that. I thanks for hanging around 2742 01:56:43.920 --> 01:56:46.159 here waiting and making the time. Things you guys will 2743 01:56:46.199 --> 01:56:49.399 bring in. Brian Sky here coming up next and that, Yeah, 2744 01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:51.359 I mean, I hope miss a personality. I hope he 2745 01:56:51.399 --> 01:56:53.840 does more interviews next year. Nathan Wurk, we'll see. It 2746 01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:55.279 wasn't the best home coming here. 2747 01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:57.399 A little snappy. By the way, when you get into 2748 01:56:57.479 --> 01:57:00.359 arguments with Dorothy. She's wearing the Huskies uniform. Do you 2749 01:57:00.439 --> 01:57:01.760 have to bow down to watch it? 2750 01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:05.800 That's good, right, break and Bryan's guy here at Toronto. 2751 01:57:05.920 --> 01:57:08.920 Argo's quarterback. Our lifters will know him from the spring 2752 01:57:09.039 --> 01:57:10.600 lead the US and Feil everything else. 2753 01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:16.000 Ryan Scott, what's brother? It's only been three years, we 2754 01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:22.760 got the grip back. We got here. Guys, Ryan, it 2755 01:57:22.920 --> 01:57:27.159 has been a crazy year for you. How are you doing. 2756 01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:27.760 Are we live? 2757 01:57:27.920 --> 01:57:28.760 Yeah, we're live. 2758 01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:31.800 Everything's good man. Nice finally meet you. Yeah, props to 2759 01:57:31.840 --> 01:57:35.199 you man. Uh known you for a long time. It's 2760 01:57:35.359 --> 01:57:37.560 fortunate to be here, which is so Yeah. 2761 01:57:38.039 --> 01:57:40.079 What's the bit you you're here, you got brought back, 2762 01:57:40.119 --> 01:57:43.000 you know, you with the argos, go with blombers, come 2763 01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:43.359 back here. 2764 01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:45.319 What's going on here? How are you feeling and what's 2765 01:57:45.359 --> 01:57:46.000 going on in your life? 2766 01:57:46.479 --> 01:57:49.079 Everything's good. I'm extremely happy and fortunate to be here. 2767 01:57:49.800 --> 01:57:50.600 My parents are here. 2768 01:57:50.720 --> 01:57:53.680 So just just taking in every day, all the little 2769 01:57:53.720 --> 01:57:55.039 moments that I get to, you. 2770 01:57:55.079 --> 01:57:57.880 Know, spend on my teammates and uh yeah, just happy 2771 01:57:57.920 --> 01:57:59.199 to represent her on on the city. 2772 01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:03.159 Uh yeah, just super grateful to be here. Just Hererus 2773 01:58:03.199 --> 01:58:03.920 thoughts here today. 2774 01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:05.720 I mean we've tracked you all the way through everything 2775 01:58:05.800 --> 01:58:07.560 and been a part of the show since SPAGINNI. I 2776 01:58:07.600 --> 01:58:10.119 mean being here now you'll on the roster of a 2777 01:58:10.159 --> 01:58:12.760 great Cup team and it being in the CFL now 2778 01:58:12.840 --> 01:58:13.159 and kind of. 2779 01:58:13.199 --> 01:58:14.279 Experience all that. What's it been like. 2780 01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:17.479 It's been good man, you know, as as you know 2781 01:58:17.960 --> 01:58:20.079 just playing in the Spring League since twenty eighteen in 2782 01:58:20.159 --> 01:58:23.279 the USFL, which Spring Leak kind of turned into the USFL. 2783 01:58:24.159 --> 01:58:25.800 You know, it's been good, man, It's been an adjustment. 2784 01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:29.079 I've never known anything but being a starting quarterback like 2785 01:58:29.159 --> 01:58:32.039 my entire life, and then coming up to the CFL, 2786 01:58:32.199 --> 01:58:36.520 like adjusting to that role. But I think everybody does that, 2787 01:58:36.760 --> 01:58:39.560 you know, like Vernon does that, McCloud did that. Pretty 2788 01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:41.880 much every starting quarterback up here kind of goes through. 2789 01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:43.640 That period of their career. 2790 01:58:43.800 --> 01:58:46.359 So I'm just taking it in and embracing every step 2791 01:58:46.439 --> 01:58:48.600 and just doing whatever I can to help the team win. 2792 01:58:48.720 --> 01:58:50.239 And you know, it's been good for me to like 2793 01:58:50.279 --> 01:58:51.960 take a step back and like look at it from 2794 01:58:52.000 --> 01:58:54.840 a different perspective, a different role, and yeah, I'm loving it. 2795 01:58:54.920 --> 01:58:58.520 I love Brian. I had the pleasure of watching you 2796 01:58:58.560 --> 01:59:01.439 two years ago in person in Birmingham the opening game 2797 01:59:01.520 --> 01:59:04.520 that you guys played Stars versus the Breakers, and I 2798 01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:08.159 just remember just seeing you swing it around. Yeah, despite 2799 01:59:08.199 --> 01:59:10.239 the fact that a guy like Davin Bellamy was like 2800 01:59:10.279 --> 01:59:14.000 breathing down your neck every other Oh my goodness. 2801 01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:14.520 That man is a monster. 2802 01:59:14.920 --> 01:59:17.439 But can you talk about what was it like getting 2803 01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:20.840 that development that professional football development a guy like Bart 2804 01:59:21.079 --> 01:59:23.279 Andrews and being in the USFL before coming here. 2805 01:59:23.800 --> 01:59:26.439 Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think, yeah, first of all, 2806 01:59:26.479 --> 01:59:29.079 the thanks for coming the game, watching me, and supporting me. 2807 01:59:29.119 --> 01:59:29.800 I appreciate that. 2808 01:59:29.960 --> 01:59:32.039 But yeah, for me, it's been a journey. Man, it's 2809 01:59:32.039 --> 01:59:32.560 been a blessing. 2810 01:59:32.680 --> 01:59:35.840 Just coming from a Division III school and then playing 2811 01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:39.159 in the twenty eighteen Spring League against Johnny Mantel, who 2812 01:59:39.239 --> 01:59:41.039 used to be my screen saver at one point. 2813 01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:43.159 You know, I was in college as a true freshman. 2814 01:59:43.239 --> 01:59:44.319 Johnny's my screen saver. 2815 01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:47.239 Fast forward four and a half years, I'm playing him 2816 01:59:47.399 --> 01:59:49.479 and we won the game, you know, And so it's 2817 01:59:49.520 --> 01:59:51.640 just been it's been an incredible journey. I'm super grateful 2818 01:59:51.680 --> 01:59:54.239 and blessed and yeah, but I think the Spring League 2819 01:59:54.479 --> 01:59:57.119 and the USFL really gave me that confidence that like, 2820 01:59:58.119 --> 01:59:59.760 I could do it, man, and I could do it. 2821 01:59:59.800 --> 02:00:02.279 I've professional level, it doesn't really matter who I'm going against, 2822 02:00:02.319 --> 02:00:05.119 and just uh just kind of gave me somewhat of 2823 02:00:05.399 --> 02:00:08.079 a name just because I come from such a small school. 2824 02:00:08.119 --> 02:00:11.119 You know, I have little trouts and NFL camps and stuff, 2825 02:00:11.159 --> 02:00:12.880 but just being able to go out there play games 2826 02:00:12.960 --> 02:00:14.000 lead a professional team. 2827 02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:16.640 Uh was awesome. Thanks for watching. 2828 02:00:17.600 --> 02:00:19.279 Yeah, and yeah I did get my you know, helmet 2829 02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:23.159 knocked off versus. But I mean USFL was a was 2830 02:00:23.720 --> 02:00:26.399 an unbelievable experience for me. Just getting drafted the first round. 2831 02:00:26.439 --> 02:00:28.319 Fox Sports took, you know, really good care at me. 2832 02:00:29.159 --> 02:00:30.840 Having the jersey and the Hall of Fame and the 2833 02:00:30.880 --> 02:00:33.640 football like that was something you know, brought my family 2834 02:00:33.720 --> 02:00:35.279 to tears. So it's one of those things that I'm 2835 02:00:35.319 --> 02:00:38.199 just always gonna be grateful for. Yeah, thanks for coming 2836 02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:39.000 on the show, Brian. 2837 02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:44.279 Yeah, absolute, oh yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's a great. 2838 02:00:44.119 --> 02:00:44.760 Player for us. 2839 02:00:45.960 --> 02:00:48.840 My question is, what are your overall thoughts on, you know, 2840 02:00:49.239 --> 02:00:51.279 coming up to here in the CFL, What did you 2841 02:00:51.439 --> 02:00:53.720 know about the CFL prior to coming up here, and 2842 02:00:54.079 --> 02:00:57.359 what are your impressions of Canada as a whole. Yeah, 2843 02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:01.319 so I signed up here in two twenty nineteen, but 2844 02:01:01.520 --> 02:01:05.600 to play for Edmonton. That Rox Sunderland, who's now kind 2845 02:01:05.600 --> 02:01:07.079 of a good friend of mine, like trying to get 2846 02:01:07.119 --> 02:01:09.119 me to come up and introduce me to CFL, and 2847 02:01:09.199 --> 02:01:11.159 then COVID happened, so I had to opt out of 2848 02:01:11.239 --> 02:01:13.800 my contract and then played in Spring League. But dude, 2849 02:01:13.840 --> 02:01:15.760 I can't say enough good things about the league, and 2850 02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:17.840 it's been really nice for me to read as you know, 2851 02:01:18.039 --> 02:01:20.279 like you know, we're the Philadelphia Stars, but we were 2852 02:01:20.319 --> 02:01:21.760 at Birmingham where. 2853 02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:23.439 I was on the Generals and we didn't have a city. 2854 02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:25.439 So for me to just be a part of a 2855 02:01:25.520 --> 02:01:28.239 city like Toronto and get to like meet people at 2856 02:01:28.279 --> 02:01:30.199 the games and to go to restaurants and go to 2857 02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:33.319 certain places and make relationships with real people within that city, 2858 02:01:33.800 --> 02:01:34.800 it's been really cool for me. 2859 02:01:34.960 --> 02:01:37.199 So it's been a it's been an amazing ride for 2860 02:01:37.279 --> 02:01:37.800 me year as well. 2861 02:01:38.319 --> 02:01:40.000 I got two here, So we talked a lot. We 2862 02:01:40.039 --> 02:01:42.159 had Dave Naylor on earlier and he's been on the 2863 02:01:42.199 --> 02:01:44.640 show back you know, years ago, talking USFL and all this, 2864 02:01:44.800 --> 02:01:48.119 and it's almost like the CFL they wanted to make 2865 02:01:48.119 --> 02:01:50.920 it hard for Americans to come up, right, especially quarterbacks, 2866 02:01:50.920 --> 02:01:53.000 and it's really this learning process and you know, it's 2867 02:01:53.279 --> 02:01:55.279 it's their game and they protect all that and we 2868 02:01:55.399 --> 02:01:56.840 have all of our you know, I have many thoughts 2869 02:01:56.840 --> 02:01:59.399 all that, but just curiously that coming down and especially 2870 02:01:59.439 --> 02:02:01.600 as a quarter back and trying to learn all that, Like, uh, 2871 02:02:02.000 --> 02:02:03.920 did you feel bad? I mean it's okay to say 2872 02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:05.359 or and I mean, I want to get like it 2873 02:02:05.399 --> 02:02:07.039 almost feels like you got to kind of go through. 2874 02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:07.840 That right to pass it. 2875 02:02:08.199 --> 02:02:10.319 Yeah, you're not lying, you got you kind of got 2876 02:02:10.439 --> 02:02:13.319 to earn your stripes, right, and that's how they kind 2877 02:02:13.359 --> 02:02:15.119 of protect the game up here, and I respect that, 2878 02:02:15.199 --> 02:02:17.279 you know, I think, uh, you know. 2879 02:02:17.319 --> 02:02:20.079 Everything happens for a reason. I truly believe that. 2880 02:02:20.359 --> 02:02:22.880 And you know, like I said before, it's just been 2881 02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:25.079 a it's been a great process for me to kind of. 2882 02:02:25.119 --> 02:02:27.560 Have that role of not having to be the guy, 2883 02:02:27.720 --> 02:02:28.319 not having all that. 2884 02:02:28.359 --> 02:02:30.720 Pressure all the time, and and uh, kind of see 2885 02:02:30.760 --> 02:02:32.159 how I want to do things when I do get 2886 02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:35.119 that opportunity again and kind of take it by the 2887 02:02:35.319 --> 02:02:37.359 you know, take the bull by his horns and go 2888 02:02:37.520 --> 02:02:37.680 for it. 2889 02:02:37.800 --> 02:02:39.560 But yeah, Dave Miller is a good dude too, So 2890 02:02:39.800 --> 02:02:41.439 I gotta follow up what you got, Ivy, I got 2891 02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:41.720 one more. 2892 02:02:42.760 --> 02:02:46.279 What I find so fascinating. Last week obviously a bit 2893 02:02:46.359 --> 02:02:49.359 tumultuous for Toronto obviously with Chad being in the game 2894 02:02:49.439 --> 02:02:52.960 getting hurt unfortunately, and then Nick coming in. But I 2895 02:02:53.079 --> 02:02:54.680 was wondering, was there anything that you were able to 2896 02:02:54.840 --> 02:02:57.000 kind of like tell them or in parts of them 2897 02:02:57.000 --> 02:03:00.000 because you played Montreal over the season and you absolute 2898 02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:02.880 ripped against them for a few minutes. In fact, probably 2899 02:03:02.880 --> 02:03:05.279 played some of the best quarterback against them in the 2900 02:03:05.479 --> 02:03:07.479 entire year. Is there something that you were able to 2901 02:03:08.239 --> 02:03:10.359 kind of impart to them or let them know about 2902 02:03:10.399 --> 02:03:11.840 what to look for when you were out there as 2903 02:03:12.079 --> 02:03:14.279 far as against that defense, because Montreal defense. 2904 02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:17.199 Is obviously very legit. Yeah, not really, man. 2905 02:03:17.239 --> 02:03:19.399 I think I think most importantly, we just go through 2906 02:03:19.399 --> 02:03:21.760 our rules at quarterback and whatever the defense gives us, 2907 02:03:21.800 --> 02:03:23.560 we're gonna take it and appreciate you saying that. 2908 02:03:23.640 --> 02:03:27.199 I mean, like you said, read the CFL game is so. 2909 02:03:27.279 --> 02:03:30.199 Much different, right, and I think the biggest thing from 2910 02:03:30.199 --> 02:03:33.000 a quarterback perspective is only having three downs instead of four. 2911 02:03:33.439 --> 02:03:36.720 It totally changes your dealing and with coach part Andrews. 2912 02:03:36.760 --> 02:03:39.359 As you mentioned before, he just kind of let me 2913 02:03:39.399 --> 02:03:41.039 go out there and spin it now, you know, like 2914 02:03:41.479 --> 02:03:42.199 God bless him. 2915 02:03:42.239 --> 02:03:42.800 I was throwing at. 2916 02:03:42.720 --> 02:03:44.680 Thirty five or forty times a game and you just say, hey, 2917 02:03:44.960 --> 02:03:47.800 here's the plane, you fly it, and you know, we 2918 02:03:47.880 --> 02:03:49.880 had a lot of success doing that, so he trusted 2919 02:03:49.920 --> 02:03:53.119 me with that. So but yeah, it's been good. We're 2920 02:03:53.159 --> 02:03:55.119 just going out there prepared and doing what will we 2921 02:03:55.199 --> 02:03:57.079 do and you know, hope for a good result. 2922 02:03:57.600 --> 02:03:59.680 I got a couple of quick USFL spreing week except 2923 02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:01.600 for you go and then we'll bring out we're on 2924 02:04:01.680 --> 02:04:04.600 the show out here pretty quick were they were doing 2925 02:04:04.640 --> 02:04:07.319 the USFL, we have the United by Football right behind 2926 02:04:07.359 --> 02:04:08.119 the scenes and all that. 2927 02:04:08.560 --> 02:04:10.920 And it was one of the episodes and I I 2928 02:04:11.079 --> 02:04:12.039 kind of equated it to. 2929 02:04:12.119 --> 02:04:14.039 Like you're on Survivor or Big Brother and you kind 2930 02:04:14.079 --> 02:04:15.520 of get in trouble and you gotta call a house 2931 02:04:15.640 --> 02:04:18.039 meetian almost and kind of and you had the house 2932 02:04:18.239 --> 02:04:20.119 right the players and people because they were all living 2933 02:04:20.159 --> 02:04:21.800 and you can kind of get your own and you know, 2934 02:04:21.840 --> 02:04:23.800 you're bringing in the wide receivers and all that. Just 2935 02:04:24.000 --> 02:04:26.920 it was a really just entertaining episode of like reality 2936 02:04:27.039 --> 02:04:29.680 TV to watch, right, and obviously they spin it whatever way. 2937 02:04:30.079 --> 02:04:32.359 Curious what was it like like just being a part 2938 02:04:32.399 --> 02:04:34.000 of that and then like living it and then I 2939 02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:36.680 don't know if you watch should just because that's another 2940 02:04:36.760 --> 02:04:39.079 side you don't normally get, right, especially like even in 2941 02:04:39.119 --> 02:04:39.560 the CFL. 2942 02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:42.199 Right now, Yeah, I think that was kind of cool, 2943 02:04:42.279 --> 02:04:45.479 right because we were all in one hotel, But yeah, 2944 02:04:45.640 --> 02:04:49.000 I mean it was called United by Football, right, yeah, right, yeah, 2945 02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:49.159 it was. 2946 02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:51.439 It's like a fever trade now. 2947 02:04:51.520 --> 02:04:55.039 Yeah, but yeah, I think that was really cool for me, 2948 02:04:55.159 --> 02:04:58.880 read because we had that Generals championship team in twenty 2949 02:04:59.039 --> 02:05:01.640 twenty and I didn't play in the Spring League twenty 2950 02:05:01.680 --> 02:05:04.000 twenty one. I was doing a couple of NFL workouts. 2951 02:05:04.000 --> 02:05:05.640 I just I didn't I didn't want to play in it. 2952 02:05:06.680 --> 02:05:08.960 But here comes twenty twenty two, and I told those guys, 2953 02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:10.359 you know what, like, if I'm gonna come back and 2954 02:05:10.399 --> 02:05:12.359 play like, I want all you guys as many as 2955 02:05:12.399 --> 02:05:14.640 you guys as possible to kind of get back on 2956 02:05:14.720 --> 02:05:16.199 that team. And when we were playing, you guys call 2957 02:05:16.279 --> 02:05:17.680 us the Spring League All Stars. I don't know if 2958 02:05:17.680 --> 02:05:19.319 you remember that, but we had a bunch of the 2959 02:05:19.359 --> 02:05:21.640 guys in the Spring leagu who had success. So for me, 2960 02:05:21.880 --> 02:05:23.760 I think the greatest, one of the greatest joys in 2961 02:05:23.880 --> 02:05:26.079 that entire process was being able to grab some of 2962 02:05:26.119 --> 02:05:28.439 those guys from the General's team. 2963 02:05:28.479 --> 02:05:30.159 And Martin just trusted me to say, hey, like, this 2964 02:05:30.239 --> 02:05:31.640 guy's good, this guy's good. 2965 02:05:31.760 --> 02:05:33.640 And you know, let's uh, you know, let's bring these 2966 02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:35.439 you know, guys who might be done with football that 2967 02:05:35.560 --> 02:05:37.039 want to get another shot. I didn't play it on 2968 02:05:37.039 --> 02:05:39.359 a big stage, so I take it like Jordan Sewell 2969 02:05:39.399 --> 02:05:42.039 and coleburn was done playing and Jordan Moore and a 2970 02:05:42.079 --> 02:05:44.039 lot of those guys that are my good buddies to 2971 02:05:44.119 --> 02:05:44.439 this day. 2972 02:05:44.880 --> 02:05:47.039 But yeah, that episode was it was it was cool. 2973 02:05:47.079 --> 02:05:49.560 I mean, it was like and of course they kind 2974 02:05:49.600 --> 02:05:51.960 of spun it a certain way, but yeah, you know, 2975 02:05:52.000 --> 02:05:53.880 the USFL, like it was a great experience for me. 2976 02:05:53.920 --> 02:05:55.920 I can't say enough good things about the league and 2977 02:05:55.960 --> 02:05:57.000 Fox Sports and stuff, so. 2978 02:05:57.279 --> 02:05:58.520 A lot of time for me and maybe you guys 2979 02:05:58.560 --> 02:06:01.520 have anything, well, bring got Matt. I you know love 2980 02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:04.279 Brian Woods, right, and we all love riding and everything. 2981 02:06:04.359 --> 02:06:06.279 And I've joked a lot on the podcast like he 2982 02:06:06.399 --> 02:06:08.800 basically put together the Spring League that like with cardboard 2983 02:06:08.840 --> 02:06:10.680 in the scarage, right, we were at a football goba, 2984 02:06:11.079 --> 02:06:13.560 just like thoughts now looking back and obviously everything now 2985 02:06:13.600 --> 02:06:16.119 with the USFL and how they've expanded all the different things, 2986 02:06:16.159 --> 02:06:18.640 but were really all started from that brain trust and 2987 02:06:18.720 --> 02:06:20.880 just kind of him figuring it out. And I think 2988 02:06:21.000 --> 02:06:22.800 you could have you know, we talked a lot out here. 2989 02:06:22.880 --> 02:06:25.800 You could have elevated the Spring League and kind of 2990 02:06:25.880 --> 02:06:28.119 done that in a way versus everything they did with USFL, 2991 02:06:28.159 --> 02:06:30.079 and that's a whole different story, but just thoughts on 2992 02:06:30.159 --> 02:06:32.720 guy coming from that and just the experience. 2993 02:06:32.359 --> 02:06:33.119 And kind of what that was. 2994 02:06:33.199 --> 02:06:34.840 Like, Well, you're not gonna hear me say anthing bad 2995 02:06:34.880 --> 02:06:36.560 about that, you know, because without that, I don't know 2996 02:06:36.600 --> 02:06:37.239 where I'd be at. 2997 02:06:38.600 --> 02:06:39.960 But I think it's it's kind of cool. 2998 02:06:39.960 --> 02:06:41.439 I tell guys this, like if you look at the 2999 02:06:41.680 --> 02:06:44.319 UFL now or the USFL XFL, I feel. 3000 02:06:44.159 --> 02:06:47.079 Like I was there like old Testament, you know, it's 3001 02:06:47.119 --> 02:06:48.560 like now it's the New Testament. 3002 02:06:48.640 --> 02:06:50.560 I was there, like, you know, when they were trying 3003 02:06:50.600 --> 02:06:53.039 to put together a spring football league, right, and there 3004 02:06:53.119 --> 02:06:55.159 was a lot of talent. I remember in twenty eighteen 3005 02:06:55.239 --> 02:06:57.319 read when I was there with Johnny, we had ESPN 3006 02:06:57.359 --> 02:07:00.439 there every day and we had thirty scouts NFL scouts 3007 02:07:00.560 --> 02:07:01.479 on the field every day. 3008 02:07:01.720 --> 02:07:03.600 So it went from that to turning into like more 3009 02:07:03.640 --> 02:07:04.319 of a TV. 3010 02:07:04.279 --> 02:07:07.000 Promotion deal instead of guys just getting scouted and going 3011 02:07:07.079 --> 02:07:07.840 straight to PAMs. 3012 02:07:07.960 --> 02:07:08.079 Right. 3013 02:07:08.119 --> 02:07:10.239 So I saw it kind of transformed. And then in 3014 02:07:10.279 --> 02:07:13.560 twenty twenty it was on Fox right where we met. 3015 02:07:13.880 --> 02:07:14.600 But it's been cool. 3016 02:07:14.640 --> 02:07:16.720 And then you know, I did the USFL and I 3017 02:07:17.119 --> 02:07:20.119 jumped to the XFL. And the only reason I did 3018 02:07:20.199 --> 02:07:24.520 that was strictly, you know, financially for my family, you know, 3019 02:07:24.720 --> 02:07:26.199 And it was one of those things where I really 3020 02:07:26.239 --> 02:07:28.840 didn't want to, but it was just like I had 3021 02:07:28.880 --> 02:07:30.600 reached the age where I needed to start kind of 3022 02:07:31.319 --> 02:07:33.520 putting that into perspective, like, hey, like I got to 3023 02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:34.560 do this for a living, right. 3024 02:07:34.800 --> 02:07:37.239 I played in the Spring League twice for no money, 3025 02:07:37.920 --> 02:07:39.399 trying to just put myself out there. 3026 02:07:40.479 --> 02:07:42.920 But so I made that jump and then now I'm 3027 02:07:42.920 --> 02:07:44.840 here in Toronto and it's been It's been a great 3028 02:07:46.039 --> 02:07:47.720 learning thing for me here in the CFL. 3029 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:51.239 So definitely loving my experience. And we'll see what happens. 3030 02:07:51.479 --> 02:07:53.159 Anything else, Andy will let Brian get out of here. 3031 02:07:54.039 --> 02:07:56.600 What's been your favorite part of the Great Cup festivities 3032 02:07:56.640 --> 02:07:56.920 so far? 3033 02:07:57.159 --> 02:08:00.199 Gosh, dude, I haven't even had very much time, so 3034 02:08:00.319 --> 02:08:02.520 busy with meetings, probably sitting here. 3035 02:08:02.439 --> 02:08:07.520 With you guys. What's a little bit, you know, going 3036 02:08:07.560 --> 02:08:08.239 through the journey. 3037 02:08:08.319 --> 02:08:10.039 And I've never met this guy, you know, I was 3038 02:08:10.079 --> 02:08:12.239 there when he was doing like a little woman in 3039 02:08:12.319 --> 02:08:14.399 his house and just seeing him kind of flourish and 3040 02:08:14.479 --> 02:08:16.520 being at the Great Up. You know, it's been cool 3041 02:08:16.560 --> 02:08:18.000 to be a part of your journey too. Man, I 3042 02:08:18.079 --> 02:08:20.920 appreciate you following you and uh, you know, just I 3043 02:08:21.000 --> 02:08:23.319 feel like I'm a part of the spring football you are, 3044 02:08:23.720 --> 02:08:25.439 you know, for the rest of my time and career. 3045 02:08:25.479 --> 02:08:27.399 And I owe a lot of my success and just 3046 02:08:27.439 --> 02:08:29.640 getting my name out there to guys like you. You 3047 02:08:29.800 --> 02:08:31.600 guys and just people that kind of stuck with me, 3048 02:08:31.680 --> 02:08:34.359 supported me and saw me on a smaller stage and 3049 02:08:34.399 --> 02:08:36.399 said hey, this guy can play, you know. And John 3050 02:08:36.479 --> 02:08:39.359 Murphy I owe him a lot, you know, he kind 3051 02:08:39.359 --> 02:08:41.399 of paid attention to those leagues, and he paid attention 3052 02:08:41.479 --> 02:08:43.640 to guys like you. He said, hey, Brian Scott can 3053 02:08:43.720 --> 02:08:45.800 playing out here. I am, you know, so making a 3054 02:08:45.840 --> 02:08:48.159 living and supporting my family and stuff like that. So 3055 02:08:48.520 --> 02:08:51.560 just appreciate you and appreciate all the people that supported 3056 02:08:51.560 --> 02:08:52.079 me along the way. 3057 02:08:52.159 --> 02:08:52.760 Really means a lot. 3058 02:08:53.079 --> 02:08:55.439 Last one, what's the locker room mentality like right now? 3059 02:08:55.479 --> 02:08:57.479 I mean a lot of practices and walkers everything. What's 3060 02:08:57.479 --> 02:08:58.159 the team feeling like? 3061 02:08:59.000 --> 02:09:01.239 We're locked in? Man, guys are excited. 3062 02:09:01.279 --> 02:09:03.239 I think why I like Toronto so much is I've 3063 02:09:03.239 --> 02:09:05.920 built such amazing relationships with these guys on and off 3064 02:09:05.960 --> 02:09:08.800 the field. Like I said, I wasn't the starting quarterback, right, 3065 02:09:08.840 --> 02:09:10.239 So I kind of got to do some things with 3066 02:09:10.359 --> 02:09:12.680 the guys that I don't have to be like that 3067 02:09:13.039 --> 02:09:16.000 force of Hey, guys, we gotta run this route with 3068 02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:16.439 this depth. 3069 02:09:16.520 --> 02:09:19.800 I'm like, hey, let's go. You knowing, you're like, let's go. 3070 02:09:19.960 --> 02:09:21.359 Let's go do something fun together. 3071 02:09:21.479 --> 02:09:23.680 So part of that's been really cool for my growth 3072 02:09:24.239 --> 02:09:26.119 as a football player. And I wanted to, you know, 3073 02:09:26.199 --> 02:09:27.319 forget this time period. 3074 02:09:27.640 --> 02:09:30.239 Yeah awesome, Well, Brian, I appreciate it, man, God, blast 3075 02:09:30.279 --> 02:09:30.880 appreciate it. 3076 02:09:30.960 --> 02:09:31.279 That's good. 3077 02:09:31.479 --> 02:09:32.439 Let's bring him mad here. 3078 02:09:33.880 --> 02:09:36.880 Then we got Dorothy's longtime friendship, Brian Scott, you know 3079 02:09:37.000 --> 02:09:38.920 you have a fan in us forever. 3080 02:09:40.399 --> 02:09:44.079 Here we go, and then we got Dorothy's oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 3081 02:09:44.119 --> 02:09:44.520 yeah yeah. 3082 02:09:44.640 --> 02:09:47.479 All right, let's bring him Matt last one here, round 3083 02:09:47.560 --> 02:09:49.359 and out. Then we'll bring in Dorothy close the show 3084 02:09:49.359 --> 02:09:49.840 as always. 3085 02:09:50.159 --> 02:09:52.760 Man, could be a busy week here. 3086 02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:55.359 Every time I see your kind of hang that's good. 3087 02:09:55.520 --> 02:09:56.720 Let's the week been like for you, Matt? 3088 02:09:56.760 --> 02:09:59.239 With the line been that, it's been a nice balance 3089 02:09:59.279 --> 02:10:04.279 site say read and good to see you guys as well. Yeah, 3090 02:10:04.479 --> 02:10:07.279 as you know, here at Radio Row for pretty much 3091 02:10:07.319 --> 02:10:10.079 the last three days, taking care of Moje and Giulio 3092 02:10:10.199 --> 02:10:14.039 and our Punjabi broadcast team helping the festival. Kind of 3093 02:10:14.600 --> 02:10:17.800 kind of an all hands on deck week, so just 3094 02:10:17.880 --> 02:10:20.239 kind of being around and being seen and interacting with 3095 02:10:20.399 --> 02:10:22.960 fans and hitting the Lions den. 3096 02:10:23.319 --> 02:10:26.359 Yeah, it's been been a good balance of working fun. 3097 02:10:26.640 --> 02:10:29.319 So I think there was a lot of expectations when 3098 02:10:29.399 --> 02:10:31.880 you know, VC got awarded the Great Cup, obviously with 3099 02:10:31.960 --> 02:10:32.920 Tamar and everything. 3100 02:10:34.079 --> 02:10:36.720 Everyone. We talked to Dorothy that's been to bour Gray. 3101 02:10:36.600 --> 02:10:39.640 Cus walked yesterday, which is an awe, especially even up here, 3102 02:10:39.680 --> 02:10:41.680 and she was talking about the outreach and the you know, 3103 02:10:41.760 --> 02:10:44.159 the marketplaces and the digitous sales and kind of all 3104 02:10:44.199 --> 02:10:47.039 this other stuff. How do you feel they kind of 3105 02:10:47.079 --> 02:10:49.319 living up because I think it was high expectations going in. 3106 02:10:49.760 --> 02:10:53.279 Yeah, definitely. And it's funny the cycle of this whole 3107 02:10:53.359 --> 02:10:57.319 thing has kind of been awarded this game in November 3108 02:10:57.439 --> 02:11:00.319 twenty twenty two, the week the Lions beat Cal in 3109 02:11:00.359 --> 02:11:04.560 the Western Semi go fall short in Winnipeg the next week, 3110 02:11:04.640 --> 02:11:06.800 but I said, okay, we're coming, We're on the rise. 3111 02:11:08.319 --> 02:11:11.479 Same script last year, so I say, okay, this year 3112 02:11:11.560 --> 02:11:15.640 we're gonna get the Western Final at home and stay 3113 02:11:15.720 --> 02:11:18.840 here for the Grape Cup. But uh yeah, we can 3114 02:11:18.920 --> 02:11:21.359 do a whole other two hour stream on what went 3115 02:11:21.439 --> 02:11:25.039 wrong this season. But but I will say once you 3116 02:11:25.159 --> 02:11:26.479 kind of come out of that, once you sort of 3117 02:11:26.520 --> 02:11:29.760 get over the hump and see firsthand how this festival is. 3118 02:11:30.279 --> 02:11:33.039 All the concerts I saw fifty four forty last night, 3119 02:11:33.720 --> 02:11:38.439 Canadian Rock and Roll Royalty for me anyway reads just like, yeah, 3120 02:11:39.159 --> 02:11:40.760 we should have I should have invited you to the 3121 02:11:40.800 --> 02:11:41.439 Gallop dinner. 3122 02:11:41.640 --> 02:11:43.960 Next time I realized we could have gone, I was 3123 02:11:44.039 --> 02:11:45.760 looking at my thing. I'm like, I actually could have 3124 02:11:45.800 --> 02:11:46.159 gone to that. 3125 02:11:46.279 --> 02:11:48.640 I was not dressed. I don't think my crack and dress. 3126 02:11:48.640 --> 02:11:52.079 I think I specifically approve your credential to include it. 3127 02:11:52.239 --> 02:11:54.880 So anyway you're you're hanging up with You're hanging out 3128 02:11:54.920 --> 02:11:56.960 with all the big shots at the f r C suite. 3129 02:11:57.119 --> 02:12:01.520 So but before we this gets too off the you 3130 02:12:01.600 --> 02:12:03.640 really have to learn to separate it. Yeah. I can't 3131 02:12:03.640 --> 02:12:04.279 sugarcoat it. 3132 02:12:04.359 --> 02:12:06.720 It sucks that I'm not more busy this week, but 3133 02:12:07.960 --> 02:12:12.279 the special aspect of the Great Cup Festival, it's still 3134 02:12:12.319 --> 02:12:13.000 great for me and. 3135 02:12:13.199 --> 02:12:13.920 He can't top it. 3136 02:12:15.479 --> 02:12:17.720 What's been the most exciting part of this festival so far? 3137 02:12:17.760 --> 02:12:18.960 And also setting up for it. 3138 02:12:19.840 --> 02:12:22.720 Just uh yeah, it's it's hard to pick just one. 3139 02:12:23.000 --> 02:12:26.760 Like I said, concert series, just just seeing the fans, 3140 02:12:26.920 --> 02:12:30.920 just seeing everyone come together. For me and seeing a 3141 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:33.439 lot of the great Lions fans that we know only 3142 02:12:33.600 --> 02:12:37.000 know by their X and Instagram handles, it's nice to 3143 02:12:37.079 --> 02:12:41.479 see that the real people are still here. And seeing 3144 02:12:41.520 --> 02:12:44.520 all the alumni that's big for me, Like seeing the 3145 02:12:44.680 --> 02:12:48.279 likes of Paul McCallum, g Roy Simon hanging around the 3146 02:12:48.359 --> 02:12:48.960 Lions Den. 3147 02:12:49.359 --> 02:12:50.359 That's a very good part. 3148 02:12:50.960 --> 02:12:52.600 Well, I was telling him, I mean we should. I 3149 02:12:52.720 --> 02:12:54.319 was trying to twist his arm to get us a 3150 02:12:54.359 --> 02:12:56.079 zipline to come down to our studio. I mean, this 3151 02:12:56.199 --> 02:12:59.359 is impressive having the ziplines yeah, on the whole place. 3152 02:13:00.439 --> 02:13:04.159 Haven't done it yet, but the lineup for that's been 3153 02:13:04.239 --> 02:13:07.640 packed the whole week. So and when this we were 3154 02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:09.560 in this same well, we were in the other convention 3155 02:13:09.720 --> 02:13:13.479 center building back in late February. I want to say, 3156 02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:16.680 when they announced the kickoff of the festival what it 3157 02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:19.239 was gonna be, and the zip line was the big hook. 3158 02:13:20.000 --> 02:13:22.239 People have been talking about the zip line the whole time. 3159 02:13:22.279 --> 02:13:22.520 That's all. 3160 02:13:22.600 --> 02:13:25.000 That's how it's all dort but for nine months since 3161 02:13:25.079 --> 02:13:29.920 this was first sort of brought together and it's paid off. 3162 02:13:29.840 --> 02:13:32.039 Because like I was saying, it's it's lined up around 3163 02:13:32.079 --> 02:13:35.399 the corner, Jason, you got it. Yeah for sure. 3164 02:13:35.560 --> 02:13:38.960 So you're a colleague. Carolyn Cody won an award the 3165 02:13:39.279 --> 02:13:41.960 Fall Awards. Can you speak about her contributions to. 3166 02:13:42.079 --> 02:13:45.600 All this and which he's meant to the organization. Yeah, 3167 02:13:46.079 --> 02:13:47.119 Carolyn's brilliance. 3168 02:13:47.920 --> 02:13:50.920 She's got to be like an eleven year employee now 3169 02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:54.520 and a neat story. Kind of started at an entry 3170 02:13:54.600 --> 02:13:57.760 level position and it's worked her way up all this 3171 02:13:58.159 --> 02:14:01.159 talk about, you know, the Lion's break and being bolstered 3172 02:14:01.199 --> 02:14:04.560 under Amar Dolman and of course Dwayne Venora President. Her 3173 02:14:04.640 --> 02:14:07.960 fingerprints are all over that. When it comes to the 3174 02:14:08.520 --> 02:14:12.800 digital marketing, the game day presentation, which read is seen firsthand, 3175 02:14:14.359 --> 02:14:18.520 she's all over that, and she bleeds the colors as well. 3176 02:14:19.039 --> 02:14:21.640 That's not always the case with people in these type 3177 02:14:21.640 --> 02:14:25.640 of positions, But the Jane Mobby Award, that was a 3178 02:14:25.680 --> 02:14:28.199 real highlight of the week for me seeing that, and 3179 02:14:28.319 --> 02:14:32.199 of course a marketting the Commissioner's Awards, so seeing everybody 3180 02:14:32.319 --> 02:14:34.239 recognized for the work that's been done here. 3181 02:14:35.520 --> 02:14:38.439 And yeah, that Carolyn's well deserving of that. Absolutely. 3182 02:14:38.600 --> 02:14:40.680 Well, what I liked about that was and I caught 3183 02:14:40.720 --> 02:14:42.279 part of than the speech that got shared. It was 3184 02:14:42.319 --> 02:14:44.239 either from the CFL account of the DC Lions. I 3185 02:14:44.279 --> 02:14:46.640 can't remember talking about the empowering women to be in 3186 02:14:46.720 --> 02:14:48.560 there and you know, to kind of grow that more 3187 02:14:48.640 --> 02:14:49.560 in that way, which I think. 3188 02:14:49.520 --> 02:14:50.439 Is super important as well. 3189 02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:54.319 Yeah, we have several women in key positions of course, 3190 02:14:54.960 --> 02:14:59.159 history with Tanya Henderson, the first full time a female 3191 02:14:59.479 --> 02:15:03.039 coaching staff member, just completed her third season and she's 3192 02:15:03.079 --> 02:15:06.119 sort of risen up now assisting with she has her 3193 02:15:06.159 --> 02:15:09.800 own position group basically that she works with. And yeah, 3194 02:15:09.840 --> 02:15:12.720 we've talked about Carolyn. I think of someone like an 3195 02:15:12.880 --> 02:15:16.720 Arlene Stuart Irvine, very high up in the ticketing department. 3196 02:15:16.840 --> 02:15:20.840 She's a twenty plus year employee. Carol Longmere was the 3197 02:15:21.479 --> 02:15:24.319 She also won the Mobby Award in Hamilton in twenty 3198 02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:28.079 twenty one or Director of Finance, So broken a lot 3199 02:15:28.159 --> 02:15:30.760 of barriers in that regard and that's something we can 3200 02:15:30.840 --> 02:15:31.319 be proud of. 3201 02:15:32.000 --> 02:15:34.359 I got one last one. You got any? Yeah, for sure? 3202 02:15:34.600 --> 02:15:38.439 Who do you like in the game tomorrow? Well, I 3203 02:15:38.560 --> 02:15:40.960 can't I can't make predictions right here. 3204 02:15:41.279 --> 02:15:44.680 I won't do it for for various reasons, but I 3205 02:15:45.239 --> 02:15:47.439 would not count out the Toronto arghahuts. 3206 02:15:47.520 --> 02:15:51.880 I just just watching them, seeing them, it seems a 3207 02:15:51.920 --> 02:15:52.520 little loose. 3208 02:15:53.600 --> 02:15:55.159 Well, they're playing because they don't have any of them. 3209 02:15:55.159 --> 02:15:56.680 I mean not they don't have any play but they are. 3210 02:15:56.840 --> 02:15:58.279 They have the ability to play for the winn to 3211 02:15:58.319 --> 02:15:59.119 pay Blue Bombers. 3212 02:15:59.479 --> 02:16:03.000 Hey there he for a fifth straight year, and they 3213 02:16:03.079 --> 02:16:05.159 seem like they're on a mission the last half of 3214 02:16:05.239 --> 02:16:09.119 this season. But I think it's gonna be a close one, 3215 02:16:09.239 --> 02:16:11.520 like it like it was two years ago in Regina. 3216 02:16:11.640 --> 02:16:13.479 Are we gonna see two block field goals in a 3217 02:16:13.560 --> 02:16:14.600 span of ninety seconds? 3218 02:16:14.640 --> 02:16:19.720 Again? I don't think so, But I expect this to 3219 02:16:19.800 --> 02:16:23.199 be a good one. That's that's my prediction. Last one 3220 02:16:23.279 --> 02:16:23.479 for me. 3221 02:16:23.520 --> 02:16:25.720 Obviously, we've seen the work done here with the Lions. 3222 02:16:25.840 --> 02:16:28.000 You know we're going to Winnipeg next year, then the Calgary. 3223 02:16:28.439 --> 02:16:31.279 Do you think that the extra work done here is 3224 02:16:31.319 --> 02:16:33.000 that gonna raise the bar now for a lot of 3225 02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:35.520 these other teams to go, Hey, okay, we gotta kind 3226 02:16:35.559 --> 02:16:36.680 of keep this momentum going. 3227 02:16:36.920 --> 02:16:39.159 Absolutely, that's always kind of a goal when you host 3228 02:16:39.239 --> 02:16:43.920 this event. And I'm sure Winnipeg is a really good, 3229 02:16:44.040 --> 02:16:46.479 great Cup city. I've not been to a great Cup 3230 02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:50.600 in Winnipeg, but I've heard you'll see how much of 3231 02:16:50.639 --> 02:16:53.760 a presence it is there. Smaller city, a little more 3232 02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:56.879 tight in the downtown core, You're gonna see great Cup 3233 02:16:56.879 --> 02:17:00.520 stuff everywhere. But absolutely, I guarantee you the oaks there 3234 02:17:00.600 --> 02:17:03.760 and when the Stampeders are taking notes this week, because 3235 02:17:04.399 --> 02:17:05.200 this will be hard. 3236 02:17:05.079 --> 02:17:07.520 To talk, well, Matt, I appreciate it. 3237 02:17:07.639 --> 02:17:09.440 Thanks for you and Mike setting us up here at 3238 02:17:09.440 --> 02:17:11.440 the McLaren Grills the radio row if. 3239 02:17:11.319 --> 02:17:12.079 You take the mic here. 3240 02:17:12.120 --> 02:17:14.520 I just want to say I'm proud of the fact 3241 02:17:14.559 --> 02:17:17.200 that you're still doing it. I know I always reference it. 3242 02:17:17.280 --> 02:17:21.120 Twenty twenty one in Hamilton, remember the the the Winston 3243 02:17:21.239 --> 02:17:22.000 Church Hill pup. 3244 02:17:22.040 --> 02:17:25.799 What was the pup called? George George Hamilton. Yeah, it's close. 3245 02:17:26.440 --> 02:17:29.559 Uh, we're Dorothy was there and I was there and 3246 02:17:30.319 --> 02:17:34.079 we're figuring out internet and all that stuff. But it's uh, 3247 02:17:34.200 --> 02:17:35.520 it's good to be on it, good to be a 3248 02:17:35.559 --> 02:17:37.719 part of it always. Uh my door's always open. 3249 02:17:38.040 --> 02:17:40.799 Yeah, a lot smoother this time around. And the hotspot 3250 02:17:40.920 --> 02:17:42.559 Li Fi in the corner of the bar and all that, 3251 02:17:42.639 --> 02:17:45.280 so I appreciate it. Matt, We'll see you, thanks always, Yeah, 3252 02:17:45.440 --> 02:17:45.680 thank you. 3253 02:17:46.239 --> 02:17:47.319 He and the Lions and Laire. 3254 02:17:47.360 --> 02:17:50.799 Let's bring Dorothy and last right there and then the 3255 02:17:50.879 --> 02:17:52.879 final starry or we're gonna be out of here about 3256 02:17:52.920 --> 02:17:54.040 two hours twenty minutes. 3257 02:17:54.079 --> 02:17:56.319 That will be good. I think we did. I think 3258 02:17:56.440 --> 02:17:59.159 Darren Bobbing was messaging me. I did not see it. 3259 02:17:59.239 --> 02:18:01.159 So that was the love. Got everyone else in. Look 3260 02:18:01.159 --> 02:18:01.319 at that. 3261 02:18:01.440 --> 02:18:04.959 We got everyone else in. Hope everyone enjoyed the stream, 3262 02:18:05.120 --> 02:18:07.000 like and subscribe. Dorothy, are you got great? 3263 02:18:07.000 --> 02:18:10.360 It's been busy, it's been really good, beautiful day. Yesterday 3264 02:18:10.440 --> 02:18:15.360 we were walking around and yeah, it's been good. Bussy yesterday, you. 3265 02:18:15.559 --> 02:18:18.520 Remarked to me, you know, I'm provoked kind of as 3266 02:18:18.559 --> 02:18:21.000 we were walking around, how excited it amaze you were 3267 02:18:21.200 --> 02:18:23.760 kind of the outreach and community building and everything else 3268 02:18:23.799 --> 02:18:24.239 going on here. 3269 02:18:24.280 --> 02:18:26.280 What's your thoughts at the festival? Yeah, I think it's 3270 02:18:26.319 --> 02:18:26.760 been awesome. 3271 02:18:26.840 --> 02:18:30.959 I mean they're really involving lots of families, like probably 3272 02:18:31.000 --> 02:18:34.559 everyone said, zip wines and climbing wall and everything, so 3273 02:18:34.799 --> 02:18:36.920 I think it's really trying to get the younger set, 3274 02:18:37.879 --> 02:18:41.600 you know, track and tracking the CFL so yeah, I 3275 02:18:41.639 --> 02:18:42.280 think it's been good. 3276 02:18:42.600 --> 02:18:44.879 I'll do this. Matt was like eating the microphone alltern 3277 02:18:44.920 --> 02:18:45.879 back at that level there. 3278 02:18:46.040 --> 02:18:47.879 And you got anything right after there were just right 3279 02:18:48.159 --> 02:18:49.959 anything else here where. We're getting out of here soon, 3280 02:18:50.000 --> 02:18:51.879 but then it's always good to get door on the omosphere. 3281 02:18:52.440 --> 02:18:54.840 Dorothy, are you gonna be getting on the slides anytime soon? 3282 02:18:54.959 --> 02:18:55.760 Or what's going on? 3283 02:18:56.440 --> 02:18:58.639 I mean, it's looking pretty fun back there, so we'll see. 3284 02:18:58.760 --> 02:19:01.360 Yeah, Maybee point we kneel overs on. 3285 02:19:01.520 --> 02:19:03.600 Some kid pulled one of those balls and it pulled 3286 02:19:03.639 --> 02:19:05.920 and it looked to me like that structure was going down, 3287 02:19:06.040 --> 02:19:09.360 and I, oh, so it was fine and reinflated there. 3288 02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:12.920 But that Jamie, sorry, Jamie, And I said that yesterday 3289 02:19:13.000 --> 02:19:15.719 someone was kicking football and it almost came right over here. 3290 02:19:15.680 --> 02:19:17.479 Like it hit the edge of the net. 3291 02:19:17.959 --> 02:19:20.600 That's what I thought when we first started the show out. Yeah, 3292 02:19:20.639 --> 02:19:22.520 and there's a there's probably a bit. The camera's pointed 3293 02:19:22.559 --> 02:19:22.879 this way. 3294 02:19:23.000 --> 02:19:25.559 The bounty houses all the other's field goal kicking, there's 3295 02:19:25.600 --> 02:19:28.680 the indoor football field, there's basketball shooting and all sorts 3296 02:19:28.719 --> 02:19:31.719 of stuff. Anything else. Any other thoughts here we round out. 3297 02:19:31.719 --> 02:19:34.000 We'll get out of here soon. I would like to 3298 02:19:34.040 --> 02:19:37.079 give a formal prediction, but we should probably do that. 3299 02:19:37.879 --> 02:19:40.000 This was the casual time of deal. Let's give our predictions. 3300 02:19:40.079 --> 02:19:43.639 We've we talked enough, haven't we. You know, as it goes, 3301 02:19:44.239 --> 02:19:47.840 my initial reactions and thoughts usually changed during the course 3302 02:19:47.879 --> 02:19:52.840 of the week. I initially when the Chad Kelly injuries happened, 3303 02:19:52.879 --> 02:19:55.239 I thought, oh boy, there goes their chances if even 3304 02:19:55.280 --> 02:19:58.799 if Toronto makes the game. Listen, I mean, this Toronto 3305 02:19:58.879 --> 02:20:01.719 team has gone through lot of adversity. They fought their 3306 02:20:02.559 --> 02:20:06.239 butts off to really get here, and I cannot underestimate 3307 02:20:06.280 --> 02:20:10.440 that coaching staff. I can't underestimate the talent in the 3308 02:20:10.479 --> 02:20:12.600 locker room. I can't underestimate the fact that they did 3309 02:20:12.639 --> 02:20:14.920 this despite losing all the players that they did last year. 3310 02:20:15.879 --> 02:20:17.760 I give them a real chance in this game that 3311 02:20:17.840 --> 02:20:20.200 I know this. If you're talking about metting spreads nine 3312 02:20:20.200 --> 02:20:22.479 to nine and a half, I think they absolutely cover that. 3313 02:20:23.959 --> 02:20:26.840 Having said that, well, I do think there are going 3314 02:20:26.920 --> 02:20:28.639 to be some mistakes made by Winnipeg. I don't think 3315 02:20:28.639 --> 02:20:31.079 there's gonna be as many as Montreal made. I think 3316 02:20:31.159 --> 02:20:35.040 Toronto can take a halftime lead. I think Brady Olivera 3317 02:20:35.559 --> 02:20:38.159 is not only going to help Winnipeg win and complete 3318 02:20:38.159 --> 02:20:40.280 their dynasty. I think he's going to become the eighth 3319 02:20:40.479 --> 02:20:43.719 CFL player all time to win MOP and then win 3320 02:20:44.479 --> 02:20:47.840 Most Outstanding Player MVP of the CFL breakup. 3321 02:20:47.879 --> 02:20:48.559 I really believe that. 3322 02:20:48.639 --> 02:20:51.399 I think he's gonna help drive the nail and the 3323 02:20:51.479 --> 02:20:54.440 coffin in the fourth quarter. I think it's gonna come 3324 02:20:54.479 --> 02:20:56.520 down to Nick Carbuckles trying to save them at the 3325 02:20:56.559 --> 02:20:57.799 end of the day. And I don't think it's gonna 3326 02:20:57.799 --> 02:20:59.719 have enough for this team because I think WINNI bak 3327 02:21:00.360 --> 02:21:02.440 they've had enough. They've lost two years in a row. 3328 02:21:02.600 --> 02:21:05.239 They want to complete this dynasty. They want everybody to 3329 02:21:05.319 --> 02:21:07.840 run off to the sunset and you know, click their heels. 3330 02:21:07.920 --> 02:21:10.239 But I think this is their time. I think it's 3331 02:21:10.280 --> 02:21:12.879 finally going to happen. I gotta take Winnipeg in this game. 3332 02:21:12.920 --> 02:21:18.680 I'm gonna say by score of twenty seven to twenty three. 3333 02:21:19.280 --> 02:21:20.000 Jason, what you got? 3334 02:21:20.239 --> 02:21:20.440 Yeah. 3335 02:21:20.559 --> 02:21:23.639 So, I think that Toronto is a bad matchup for Winnipeg. 3336 02:21:23.799 --> 02:21:26.840 We saw them win the season series against Winnipeg this 3337 02:21:26.959 --> 02:21:29.799 year to nothing, and I think that they just always 3338 02:21:29.840 --> 02:21:31.440 find a way to muck up the game, kind of 3339 02:21:31.440 --> 02:21:33.879 similar to the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know, maybe they don't 3340 02:21:33.879 --> 02:21:36.120 get the best quarterback play every week, but they always 3341 02:21:36.159 --> 02:21:37.879 find a way to stay within the game. And I 3342 02:21:37.920 --> 02:21:40.520 think that's exactly what they're gonna do in this game. 3343 02:21:40.559 --> 02:21:43.360 They're gonna run the ball, They're gonna play very good defense. 3344 02:21:43.399 --> 02:21:45.760 I think it really comes down to the fact, can 3345 02:21:46.000 --> 02:21:48.639 Jake Cresna and the boys up front really get pressure 3346 02:21:48.760 --> 02:21:51.799 on Zach Klaris and really rattle them early in this game. 3347 02:21:51.840 --> 02:21:54.079 I talked earlier in the show about how Claris has 3348 02:21:54.159 --> 02:21:57.440 generally struggled in great cups. If they can really rattle 3349 02:21:57.520 --> 02:21:59.920 him early, it could be a completely different ball game. 3350 02:22:00.280 --> 02:22:01.520 But if Winnipeg can. 3351 02:22:01.440 --> 02:22:04.000 Protect up front, I think there's a big plays to 3352 02:22:04.040 --> 02:22:05.639 be had against that Toronto secondary. 3353 02:22:06.040 --> 02:22:09.280 Dorothy, you're playing out early, missing the game, Dorothy, thankfully 3354 02:22:09.399 --> 02:22:11.120 helping wrangle all the guests and everything to that. 3355 02:22:11.200 --> 02:22:13.639 Here obviously your room for Winny Peg here, your team. Yeah, 3356 02:22:13.719 --> 02:22:17.719 that's right. And didn't Kelly break his ankle? So that 3357 02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:19.280 was really bad. That was very scary. 3358 02:22:19.399 --> 02:22:22.239 I'm not lacking at that, but yes, that's just I 3359 02:22:22.280 --> 02:22:22.559 don't know. 3360 02:22:22.799 --> 02:22:25.040 So they got their backup in right, So we'll see, 3361 02:22:25.200 --> 02:22:26.000 we'll see, we'll see. 3362 02:22:26.040 --> 02:22:26.159 Well. 3363 02:22:26.200 --> 02:22:28.360 I appreciate everyone and anything else from you guys. We'll 3364 02:22:28.360 --> 02:22:30.040 get out of here. We've talked two and a half hours. 3365 02:22:30.360 --> 02:22:35.479 I guess my prediction is that I'll go twenty three 3366 02:22:35.520 --> 02:22:36.639 to nineteen Winnipeg. 3367 02:22:37.319 --> 02:22:39.040 Yeah, I think it's gonna be low scoring. I think 3368 02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:42.799 Toronto's gonna be I liked it when Brian was talking 3369 02:22:42.840 --> 02:22:45.280 to where they have a lot less stress to play, right, 3370 02:22:45.319 --> 02:22:47.559 I think I feel like the expectations. I do think 3371 02:22:47.600 --> 02:22:49.399 teams are able to go out and play spoiler there 3372 02:22:49.399 --> 02:22:51.360 a little bit. I see that a lot with hockey, 3373 02:22:51.440 --> 02:22:53.000 where you have a team that comes in and you 3374 02:22:53.079 --> 02:22:54.959 know they it feels like you're able to play a 3375 02:22:55.000 --> 02:22:57.079 lot more bulleyball and free just because they don't have to. 3376 02:22:57.239 --> 02:22:59.840 There's a lot more pressure on win effect. Yeah, well, 3377 02:22:59.879 --> 02:23:03.760 I appreciate it. Thanks, everyone like and subscribe. Hopefully we'll 3378 02:23:03.760 --> 02:23:06.079 share this again tomorrow before the game. But I appreciate 3379 02:23:06.120 --> 02:23:07.559 it as always. I think we did a good job. 3380 02:23:08.440 --> 02:23:11.799 All right, We'll see everyone next time, and safe travels back. 3381 02:23:11.920 --> 02:23:14.520 Dorothy's flying out tomorrow. We hope everyone gets some safe 3382 02:23:14.559 --> 02:23:15.600 and we'll see you guys next time. 3383 02:23:15.680 --> 02:23:15.920 Thanks,