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Speaker 1: Spence checkets Beyond the Mike, Porter Larson Beyond the Glass
Speaker 1: today on this hunt Day edition of the program, this
Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the program. You are halfway through your
Speaker 1: work week, You're one day closer to the weekend, and
Speaker 1: the madness of March is upon us. We've got the
Speaker 1: ACC Tournament second round action going on right now in
Speaker 1: the studio, North Carolina with a twenty point lead.
Speaker 2: Over Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Iowa State took care of Cincinnati earlier in the Big
Speaker 1: twelve Championship second round action, which means Iowa State advances
Speaker 1: onto the quarterfinals where tomorrow Iowa State will be looking
Speaker 1: for a little bit of payback. It is Iowa State
Speaker 1: and it is BYU. That's going to be a ten
Speaker 1: to thirty a m start that will be on it
Speaker 1: ESPN two or ESPN Plus.
Speaker 2: In Big Twelve tournament action.
Speaker 1: So we'll get you all the latest from the conference
Speaker 1: tournaments going on. We'll do a little bracketology update. How
Speaker 1: many Big twelve teams are high speed ahead of the tournament.
Speaker 1: What does it mean for the seeding for BYU. Utah
Speaker 1: State clearly in the mix to make the NCUBA Tournament,
Speaker 1: So we'll get to the latest with the local stuff.
Speaker 1: The University of Utah will not go to the tournament
Speaker 1: and will not have postseason basketball.
Speaker 2: In their reality.
Speaker 1: It's been nine years, nine years, nine times Ferris Bueller
Speaker 1: for those jet exers out there since the Utah Utes
Speaker 1: made the NCUBA Tournament. They had a twelve point lead
Speaker 1: there in the first half, then everything fell apart. Ucf
Speaker 1: ran away eighty seven to seventy two, and Utah basketball
Speaker 1: done for the year. So now we talk about what's
Speaker 1: next and what's next under the new head coach for
Speaker 1: the Utes, Alex Jensen, the seventeenth head coach in Utah
Speaker 1: men's basketball history. Little insight on the program today about
Speaker 1: how this all went down a little bit of new
Speaker 1: information we're going to bring to you on the program.
Speaker 1: A phone call that sealed the deal to bring Alex
Speaker 1: Jensen back home to coach the ute, So stay tuned
Speaker 1: for that. Utah Jazz are back at action tonight. They're
Speaker 1: taking on the Memphis Grizzlies. It is a jam pack
Speaker 1: night of NBA action after a little bit of a
Speaker 1: quiet night at least for March.
Speaker 2: In pro basketball.
Speaker 1: Last night, Cleveland Cavaliers won their fifteenth straight basketball game.
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell continues to be incredibly impressive. So a little
Speaker 1: bit of NBA action last night, but not a lot.
Speaker 1: There's not a ton So we get a full slate
Speaker 1: of NBA basketball tonight while you're waiting for the local stuff.
Speaker 1: As far as the college game goes, you can tune
Speaker 1: into the Jazz and the Grizzlies tonight.
Speaker 2: The latest with.
Speaker 1: The NFL offseason carousel, My goodness, a lot of NFL
Speaker 1: news to get to on the program today. We've got
Speaker 1: a good NFL guest to get to the free agent stuff,
Speaker 1: which officially began today, but unofficially the information came spilling
Speaker 1: in about forty eight hours ago. The San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers are gutting their roster to prepare to pay
Speaker 1: Brock Purdy. The reality of being an NFL fan is
Speaker 1: once that rookie deal is up. You got to pay
Speaker 1: the quarterback, which means talented players must be moved on
Speaker 1: from So.
Speaker 2: We'll get to the latest.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: Utah Hockey Club back in action tonight. They're taking on Anaheim.
Speaker 1: They are technically still alive for the wild card. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the wet blanket, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's going to happen this year. Bill Armstrong, friend
Speaker 1: of the show, very intentional with his process, very intentional
Speaker 1: with how he's got about building this thing up.
Speaker 2: So we'll do a little hockey on the program today.
Speaker 1: Midweek means we're a little bit closer the weekend, which
Speaker 1: means we're a little bit closer to the next match
Speaker 1: for Reale Salt Lake RSL on the road, taking on Houston,
Speaker 1: a road trip that has not spread a lot of
Speaker 1: results historically speaking for this soccer club, and right now
Speaker 1: it is not a great time for RSL fans after
Speaker 1: a really, really pathetic start to the season. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: do a little RSL on the program today. Is Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers high speed ahead to be the next quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's your latest rumor. So we'll get
Speaker 1: to a bunch of a bunch of different topics on
Speaker 1: the show today. We'll kind of bounce around a little
Speaker 1: bit over the next four hours of Live Sports Sook Radio.
Speaker 1: We'll start things off today with Sean Moody, who is
Speaker 1: on the call for US former Ute calls games next
Speaker 1: to Bill Riley as our colored analyst, So Sean was
Speaker 1: on the call last night. We'll do a little bit
Speaker 1: of a oh bit as the Utah basketball season came
Speaker 1: to an unceremoniously end last night, and then we'll kind
Speaker 1: of look to what's next. As Sean has not joined
Speaker 1: the program since it became official that Alex Jensen is
Speaker 1: high speed ahead to come back home and coach the
Speaker 1: University of Utah, So we'll get Sean's thoughts on that
Speaker 1: right off the bat. We're gonna bring it Aaron Shaft
Speaker 1: to talk some NFL latest with the NFL free agency
Speaker 1: latest with the quarterback carousel, Sam Darnold to Seattle to Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Choose Sam Darnoald over Gino Smith. What's the next? Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers justin fields to the Jets. I guess Aaron Shatz
Speaker 1: will stop by. Sarah Todd covers the You Todd Jazz
Speaker 1: for the Deseret News five years ago. Yesterday, the NBA
Speaker 1: and then the world shut down as a result of COVID.
Speaker 1: As a result of the lockdown, Rudy Gobert test positive.
Speaker 1: The Jazz are down to OKC. Sarah was part of
Speaker 1: the traveling party, if my memory serves me correctly, so
Speaker 1: she'll stop by.
Speaker 2: We'll do a little story time, some memories.
Speaker 1: With Sarah Todd, and then the head coach, the manager
Speaker 1: of RSL Good vibes guy, but I'm a results over
Speaker 1: vibes guy, Pablo.
Speaker 2: Master you when he stops by.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to get with Pablo today to see
Speaker 1: if he's concerned about the start of the season for
Speaker 1: his little soccer club and what's next starting coming up
Speaker 1: this weekend against Houston. So Sean Mooney, Aaron Shatz, Sarah Todd,
Speaker 1: Pablo Master, Jenning, Me Spence Checkets, I'll be the great listeners.
Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday, Happy fifty.
Speaker 1: Two degrees sunny and clear Wednesday, as some snow and
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Speaker 1: Checket's all be the great listeners. That guy Porter Larson
Speaker 1: auDA Wednesday afternoon. I gotta say I feel like the
Speaker 1: way that Utah lost that game last night was kind
Speaker 1: of an embodiment of the season, and I think it
Speaker 1: was just time.
Speaker 2: To get this thing over with.
Speaker 1: It would have been fun to see him maker Rod,
Speaker 1: but if we're being real, I think it was probably
Speaker 1: time just to let's put this one behind us now,
Speaker 1: let's focus on what's next.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's that's kind of where everyone's at.
Speaker 4: That's where the program is, and that's, you know, as
Speaker 4: you said, kind of how last night felt. It encapsulated
Speaker 4: where the program is now. From what I understand, there
Speaker 4: is a potential of them accepting one of the like
Speaker 4: obscure tournament invites. They actually are probably going to do
Speaker 4: that if they if they get the invite, but again,
Speaker 4: as you said, results means in the NCAA tournament, in
Speaker 4: the Big twelve tournament, and it just didn't feel like
Speaker 4: we were going to get that. Even though I liked
Speaker 4: the fight, I liked the energy from this team to
Speaker 4: kind of finish up off the year, go out fighting
Speaker 4: against BYU. You know, it never seemed like the team
Speaker 4: totally gave up, but they did run out of gas.
Speaker 4: They kind of ran out of energy there and credited
Speaker 4: Josh eiler in the crew for not letting the wheels
Speaker 4: fall off. But yeah, you turn the page, you look
Speaker 4: to what's next, And what's next for this program is
Speaker 4: something a lot of folks on the Hill and a
Speaker 4: lot of folks in Salt Lake City are pretty excited about.
Speaker 2: No doubt, No doubt.
Speaker 1: So it's always fun to have some optimism, and I
Speaker 1: think Alex Jensen has brought that optimism to this market.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to it on the program today.
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Speaker 1: So Big twelve Tournaments Big twelve Men's Basketball Tournament. It
Speaker 1: was the first four a in to Big twelve tournament
Speaker 1: play for the Utah Utes, taking on the UCF Knights,
Speaker 1: the team that beat them in Orlando just a few
Speaker 1: weeks back.
Speaker 2: It was the final game for Craig Smith.
Speaker 1: After that loss in Orlando, Craig was shown the door
Speaker 1: and last night at Big twelve Championship Kansas City, Phillip
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Speaker 2: Let's be clear.
Speaker 1: In Kansas City, the UCF Knights were able to really
Speaker 1: run away from the Utes after a solid start to
Speaker 1: the game, so Utah was up twelve in the first half.
Speaker 1: They were really utilizing their massive size. The starting lineup.
Speaker 1: The coach Eyler marched out, the smallest player was Gabe
Speaker 1: Matts and Gabies six' five and he's all of six
Speaker 1: to five and he's a big body, kid and he
Speaker 1: was the smallest player in that starting.
Speaker 2: Lineup and it was working for a.
Speaker 1: While a lot of rim, runs left of, dives a
Speaker 1: lot of, dunks a lot of, layups a lot of driving,
Speaker 1: kicks a lot of aggressive. Play early they were dominating
Speaker 1: the glass early lost and had some good dunks and good.
Speaker 1: Layups Keana daz was an animal and we'll get To
Speaker 1: kano in a, minute but they were crashing the, glass
Speaker 1: they were getting layups and. Dunks they were not relying
Speaker 1: on the outside shot because quite, frankly they're not a
Speaker 1: great three point shooting. Team and then After utah went up,
Speaker 1: Twelve Johnny dawkins went, zone and then everything changed Because
Speaker 1: utah does not have outside Of gabe and Probably Hunter,
Speaker 1: erickson they don't have a lot of big time three
Speaker 1: point shot. Makers Merro little had a really good game
Speaker 1: Against Brigham. Young he struggled last. Night he did hit one,
Speaker 1: three but he fouled out in twelve minutes of. Play
Speaker 1: so Coach eiler tried to. Adjust he tried to essentially
Speaker 1: tinker with a couple of different lineups to match up
Speaker 1: with that zone defense and counter What Johnny dawkins. Did
Speaker 1: but nothing was working because they could not hit the
Speaker 1: broadside of a barn Shrov jamps was zero of six from.
Speaker 1: THREE i actually thought it was gonna be work that
Speaker 1: because my man was jacking up.
Speaker 2: Threes he just could not hit a. Shot gabe was
Speaker 2: only two of.
Speaker 1: Nine as a, team there were four of twenty six from,
Speaker 1: three AND ucf essentially was daring them to shoot it
Speaker 1: because it was the attacking the glass attacking the painted,
Speaker 1: area As Huge brown would, say getting dunks and layups
Speaker 1: that Allowed utah to get off to that twelve point.
Speaker 2: Lead and then defensively it just wasn't good.
Speaker 1: Enough Keishawn hall had twenty, three he shot fourteen free,
Speaker 1: Throws Darius johnson had twenty and ULTIMATELY ucf was able
Speaker 1: to utilize a defensive. Adjustment they got a random good
Speaker 1: game out Of Jordan Ivory. Curry you had fifteen points
Speaker 1: off the, bench and he was questionable prior to the
Speaker 1: start of the. Game weren't even sure if he was
Speaker 1: going to be able to actually, play but he gave
Speaker 1: them a little bit of a shot of, life and
Speaker 1: after that twelve point lead in the first, HALF ucf
Speaker 1: runs away with. It so as porter, reference there are
Speaker 1: some obscure postseason tournaments maybe on the table for Coach
Speaker 1: eilert and This Utah utch, team but for all intents and,
Speaker 1: purposes the season ends once. AGAIN i, mean for, me
Speaker 1: the standard that we should hold this program to is
Speaker 1: THE Ncaa tournament every single.
Speaker 2: Year that's just my. Opinion is that reality probably.
Speaker 1: Not but If utah basketball is going to get back
Speaker 1: to where we're used to seeing it be at least
Speaker 1: back in the day for those of us who were
Speaker 1: around when it was good year and in year, out
Speaker 1: every single, year they should, be if not making the,
Speaker 1: tournament knocking on the door to be considered as an
Speaker 1: automatic qualifier if you don't win The Big Twelve, Championship
Speaker 1: and if we're, honest they're not close to. That so
Speaker 1: the conversation turns to now what's? Next And tim, McMahon
Speaker 1: who joined our show On, tuesday who covers The Dallas
Speaker 1: mavericks FOR, espn reported That Alex jensen will finish the
Speaker 1: season with The Dallas, mavericks but has been given complete
Speaker 1: permission in karte blanche from the ownership of The MAVs
Speaker 1: to do what he needs to do to hit the
Speaker 1: ground running here In Salt. Lake tim reported That alex
Speaker 1: was at The Big Twelve. Championship he was going to
Speaker 1: be there for the. TOURNAMENT i didn't see him shown on.
Speaker 1: Television IF i missed, IT i was fast forwarding through
Speaker 1: a lot of. Commercials MAYBE i missed a screenshot here or.
Speaker 1: There but if You're Alex, jensen what did you see
Speaker 1: last night and what does that mean about how you
Speaker 1: would like to? Proceed last minute bad news For, utah
Speaker 1: WHICH i didn't even know was a. Thing ezrasar got
Speaker 1: hurt Against Brigham, young and right as they started the,
Speaker 1: broadcast the very first shot that the camera captured Was
Speaker 1: ezra on the bench in street. Close so he did
Speaker 1: not go last. Night, Now Kianu daz got the. Start
Speaker 1: the counter does storyline as the season has unfolded After
Speaker 1: craig was let go has been probably the most fascinating
Speaker 1: thing that we could talk about with his. Team and,
Speaker 1: LOOK i don't know if it's just as simple As
Speaker 1: Josh eilert Liking kiano does more Than Craig smith Liked kiano.
Speaker 1: DOES i have no insight, here but the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is After josh took over For, craig the
Speaker 1: splits were. Following so the three games prior To craig's,
Speaker 1: Firing kiata played fourteen, minutes twelve, minutes and seventeen, minutes
Speaker 1: and the games after that twenty six, minutes twenty three,
Speaker 1: minutes twenty one, minutes twenty one, minutes and thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Minutes yesterday last night he played thirty eight. Minutes he
Speaker 1: had twenty one, points he had fifteen. Boards both of
Speaker 1: those were career highs. Now he's got some limitations, Offensively
Speaker 1: he's not super. Skilled WHAT i love is he tries
Speaker 1: to dunk. Everything he's got a lead, athleticism lead. Athleticism
Speaker 1: he's got intense ability to. Attack he's always playing with
Speaker 1: an aggressive. Nature doesn't shoot it well from the, outside
Speaker 1: doesn't handle it very. Well he's not a, playmaker but
Speaker 1: he is a dog as an. Athlete and twenty one,
Speaker 1: points fifteen boards in thirty eight. Minutes he had fifteen
Speaker 1: points and eleven rebounds AGAINST. Asu he had eighteen points
Speaker 1: and ten boards Against. Arizona so in three of the
Speaker 1: five games The keano's played in After craig was fired
Speaker 1: And josh took, over he's had a double. Double and
Speaker 1: if You're Alex, jensen did you see that, athleticism did
Speaker 1: you see that aggressive? Mentality and did you say to,
Speaker 1: yourself that's a kid THAT i would like on my
Speaker 1: roster next. YEAR i Mentioned ezra who is a junior
Speaker 1: eligible to come back next, Year Hunter, erickson a. Senior you,
Speaker 1: know you kind of tipped the cap To, hunter who
Speaker 1: had a couple of years At Brigham young went he
Speaker 1: went tassel slick and played some. Hoops then came here
Speaker 1: and did a good job in his. Role so we
Speaker 1: say goodbye To Hunter. Erickson we say goodbye To Caleb,
Speaker 1: lohner who took the path less traveled by starting his
Speaker 1: career For larry here At, utah heading down to play
Speaker 1: For Market Brigham, young going down to play For Scott
Speaker 1: drew At, baylor coming back To utah to play football and,
Speaker 1: basketball and Now caleb is going to go try his
Speaker 1: hand at pro. Football lost and lovering tip of the
Speaker 1: cap big that really developed and turned into a very solid.
Speaker 2: Pivot he takes off as a.
Speaker 1: Senior Gabe matts In leeds campus is the all time
Speaker 1: leading three point shot maker In utah.
Speaker 2: History his Brother mason also a. Senior Shrav jamps is a.
Speaker 1: Junior he's got great measurables at six,' nine there are
Speaker 1: a lot of holes in. His game he's a league
Speaker 1: guard that doesn't shoot it well from. The outside do
Speaker 1: you believe in? His evolution do you think you can?
Speaker 1: Keep Improving Is alex jensen interested In having Mike shrav
Speaker 1: jamps back on campus. Next Year jake walaleen is the
Speaker 1: Other player i'd. Point out jake had some moments in
Speaker 1: the first half it was not his. Finest game he had,
Speaker 1: Seven points he had four assists in twenty. FIVE minutes
Speaker 1: i missed all three of his three, point shots but
Speaker 1: nobody could hit the broad side of a barn from three.
Speaker 1: Last night so those are the players that If You're,
Speaker 1: alex jensen if you're At the big twelve tournament and
Speaker 1: you're following, this program of which Of course, alex does
Speaker 1: you're kind of debating whether or not you know you
Speaker 1: want them on the roster. Next year we'll get back
Speaker 1: to THIS because i do have some insight on the
Speaker 1: process that Led to alex accepting, the job some new
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Speaker 1: Season long utah basketball season for all intents, and purposes
Speaker 1: comes to an end last NIGHT Against ucf Big, twelve championship,
Speaker 1: first round eighty seven to. Seventy two we'll see if
Speaker 1: they accepted INVITATION to i don't know whatever is NOT
Speaker 1: The ncaa tournament OR the nit OR the cbi or
Speaker 1: whatever a series of letters you want to. Put together
Speaker 1: not sure if that's going to, go down but our
Speaker 1: next guest may have. Some Insight Sean mooney, Wednesday, Afternoon Sean, happy,
Speaker 1: wednesday sir how are?
Speaker 3: You pace? Take it? I'm good how, are you?
Speaker 2: My brother, i'm, Well man.
Speaker 1: I'm well so let's just start in a vacuum with
Speaker 1: what you saw. Last night, you know the start was,
Speaker 1: pretty encouraging and that starting Lineup That josh eiler marched,
Speaker 1: out there a bunch of big dudes in the, you
Speaker 1: know the straight line dives to, the rim the ability
Speaker 1: to have some pocket passes in, the interior layups and
Speaker 1: donks led them to a twelve point lead And Then
Speaker 1: johnny dawkins go zone and it kind of all. Falls
Speaker 1: apart but, Tell, me sean what you saw from?
Speaker 3: Your, seat, yeah, no, kids job you did good to.
Speaker 6: Be scribing do you have any time for extra fellow
Speaker 6: work on. THE air i know you spend a lot
Speaker 6: of time on.
Speaker 3: THE radio i want all, Of.
Speaker 2: IT sean i want a breakdown.
Speaker 6: For you you'd, Be, good. NO listen, i, mean so here's.
Speaker 6: The deal we were really good in that in that.
Speaker 6: FIRST half ucf is not typically a, good Defensively and
Speaker 6: i've got to give them a little. More credit LAST
Speaker 6: night i got a little over my SKIS because I
Speaker 6: think i. Was frustrated so that, First Half kuana does
Speaker 6: comes in. Picks up obviously we're really missing as right
Speaker 6: as is such an integral part of. Our team but
Speaker 6: we looked a little Different with as out in the
Speaker 6: sense that we do run a little more emotion and
Speaker 6: we get a lot of back cuts at. THE ram, i,
Speaker 6: mean gosh we probably, HAD like i, don't know ten
Speaker 6: dunks in that. First Half kunta does alone probably ripped
Speaker 6: the rim off four or five times total in, the
Speaker 6: game and then they went to his ZONE late ucf
Speaker 6: did and THERE'S zone i was calling it pretty. SIM
Speaker 6: books i was frustrated last night in. The air it's
Speaker 6: a little more complicated, than simple meaning that they look
Speaker 6: like during a two, three zone and they'll show that
Speaker 6: through an, entire series or they'll go box, in one
Speaker 6: or they'll go matchup out. Of it so it's a
Speaker 6: little more complicated THAN even i was saying.
Speaker 1: Last night so what's fair to say about the lack?
Speaker 1: Of Adjustments When johnny dawkins did go to that, excuse
Speaker 1: me did go to, that zone, and yes he would
Speaker 1: stagger it up top and then they'd break into a,
Speaker 1: matchup zone and it was it certainly was more complex
Speaker 1: than simply a straight two to three or a one to,
Speaker 1: three one even though it times had looked.
Speaker 2: Like that but it took the it took the error
Speaker 2: out of the Tires for.
Speaker 1: Utah offensively is it lack, of adjustment sean or is
Speaker 1: it just not having the personnel because they could not
Speaker 1: hit the broadside of? A?
Speaker 6: Barn, YEAH yeah, I mean i mean you've kind of
Speaker 6: got to say. IT'S adjustments i want to say. Adjustments
Speaker 6: first so against, the zone there are lots of things
Speaker 6: that you. Can do, and again like give uc a
Speaker 6: credit because it wasn't just. A three but, you know
Speaker 6: obviously we got a lot of what's Called a. Jordan
Speaker 6: cutter we got a catch in the paint free throw
Speaker 6: line to restrict, a circle and we made. An adjustment
Speaker 6: We put hunter, in there And when hunter was, in
Speaker 6: there he was a little. More Aggressive when laws was getting,
Speaker 6: that catch it wasn't quite. As good, you know they're
Speaker 6: kind of begging him to shoot, from there and we
Speaker 6: didn't really change it side. To side we kind of
Speaker 6: got stuck in that catch in.
Speaker 3: The paint we didn't go.
Speaker 6: Short corner we did go deep corner a couple, of
Speaker 6: times And like jake while lean early had it wide
Speaker 6: open three and you kind of hope you make one
Speaker 6: of those because and then it Maybe makes dawkins think.
Speaker 6: About IT and i Talked to you've probably heard THIS
Speaker 6: because i know You Follow coach larson came on after.
Speaker 3: The Show.
Speaker 6: Tyler larson, great coach, great kid great. Young man everyone
Speaker 6: was a kid. To, Me Sorry, coach larson and he,
Speaker 6: just said, you know it doesn't even really matter what
Speaker 6: we didn't do against his own because we couldn't defend
Speaker 6: Him and. He's right we could not defend them in the.
Speaker 6: Second half and we talked about loading up, the paint
Speaker 6: meaning helping On The darius, johnson drive helping On The,
Speaker 6: kishan hall not Not Fouling, kishan hall and.
Speaker 3: We just didn't get. It, done spence we couldn't get it.
Speaker 3: Done defensively, ALL.
Speaker 2: Right i want to ask You About kana.
Speaker 1: Kanu does first, Of, all sean could you dunk it
Speaker 1: back in.
Speaker 3: THE day, i, mean yeah but not. In, traffic okay.
Speaker 6: There's a difference between dunking and dunking. And trafficking keana
Speaker 6: does obviously can do.
Speaker 1: That well THE reason i bring it UP is i
Speaker 1: always said that it's a GOOD thing i couldn't dunk
Speaker 1: The way keanu, could dunk BECAUSE if i, COULD dunk
Speaker 1: i would only try to dunk EVERY time i got.
Speaker 1: THE ball i would try to dunk it. Every time
Speaker 1: AND what i Love about keanu is he tries to
Speaker 1: dunk it every.
Speaker 2: Single time he wants to take.
Speaker 1: Your, soul now three of the five Games after josh
Speaker 1: took Over, for craig he put up, double doubles and
Speaker 1: he had a career high in both points and boards
Speaker 1: last night with twenty one. AND fifteen i don't want
Speaker 1: to be as reductive as To say josh likes him more.
Speaker 1: Than whatever but why do you think we waited this
Speaker 1: long and kind of unleashed?
Speaker 2: This, Weapon.
Speaker 6: Complicated but the main reason Probably why katie didn't play
Speaker 6: as Much with craig is.
Speaker 3: DEFENSIVE assignments i would.
Speaker 6: Say that you know sometimes and he's. A sophomore he
Speaker 6: played a Year, at RICE and i think He Was all,
Speaker 6: league academics so certainly FROM an, iq standpoint he's capable
Speaker 6: of understanding. The assignments sometimes what happens, with coaches and
Speaker 6: this is just my assumption based ON what, i saw is,
Speaker 6: you know he got in the doghouse because of. His
Speaker 6: assignment he missed his, assignments defensively and then also maybe
Speaker 6: he was a. Little tentative you can certainly see the
Speaker 6: confidence that he has and that he's been playing WITH
Speaker 6: and i would say as a Whole, after CRAIG and
Speaker 6: I think craig Is in hawaii, right NOW so i
Speaker 6: hope he's. ENJOYING himself I asked landon and he said
Speaker 6: that's where it was good. FOR him i think they
Speaker 6: some of those kids felt a little more on Agshells
Speaker 6: Around coach smith in, terms of, you know when they made,
Speaker 6: a mistake and sometimes as the coach is hard to
Speaker 6: get him back into the flow. Of things, but, man yeah.
Speaker 6: He's blossomed and YOU and i talked about this early,
Speaker 6: early ON and i TOLD you I thought kadi was
Speaker 6: an important part of. Our team and it's turning out
Speaker 6: that he may have the highest cilien.
Speaker 3: Of anybody and that's.
Speaker 1: Saying something any any other takeaways from your eye after
Speaker 1: watching this, this team When when craig was, let go
Speaker 1: and And and josh. Took over any other, schematic changes
Speaker 1: lineup changes that stood out to you outside Of elevating
Speaker 1: giano and letting him play more minutes.
Speaker 6: And not not, not entirely there were a couple Of
Speaker 6: Different coach larson did a lot of the side out and.
Speaker 6: End outs they ran. Similar STUFF but i do think
Speaker 6: that you saw the schematic difference That Really coach eyler
Speaker 6: talked about was punching it in, the paint trying to
Speaker 6: get into. The paint that that, was successful and even
Speaker 6: though we won the paint, last night there were other
Speaker 6: things that we. DIDN'T win i do think that the
Speaker 6: kids intensity AND practice i we got to see probably
Speaker 6: their last practice of, the, year possibly, you know depending
Speaker 6: on which which acronym we get if we. Get one
Speaker 6: and the intensive level was. Very high bill has seen
Speaker 6: more practices and he was especially talking. About it we
Speaker 6: we had as a team When under coachmanjaris an intensive
Speaker 6: live that. Was insane by the time we got to,
Speaker 6: a game our starters were ready to play anybody other.
Speaker 6: THAN us i think that that that floated well for
Speaker 6: them in terms of preparing for what was coming.
Speaker 3: Their way, all.
Speaker 1: Right before we get to, What's next let's give some
Speaker 1: of these young men a little bit of love who
Speaker 1: deserve it as.
Speaker 2: They kind of kind of kind of walk out.
Speaker 3: The door.
Speaker 1: YOU know i said this last Year After brandon. CARLSON graduated,
Speaker 1: i said, you know any youth fan should Always Remember
Speaker 1: brandon carlson as a youthe legend because he, stuck around he,
Speaker 1: played well, he grew, he evolved, he improved and now
Speaker 1: he's making money in. Pro BASKETBALL and i think we
Speaker 1: should say the same Thing. About Gabe About. Gabe, MATTSON
Speaker 1: now I think gabe himself would tell you this year
Speaker 1: did not go the way. HE wanted i continue to
Speaker 1: remind people almost on a, daily basis if you're just
Speaker 1: looking at, his splits if you're just looking at, his
Speaker 1: numbers you probably think he had a pretty. Down year
Speaker 1: AND like, i said by his, own accord my guess
Speaker 1: is he would say that, he did but every team
Speaker 1: sold out to. Stop him but He leaves utah basketball
Speaker 1: as the leading three point shot maker in the history of,
Speaker 1: the program which certainly. Isn't, Nothing, sean so as You
Speaker 1: watched gabe the past, few years what do you have
Speaker 1: to say about him as he exits.
Speaker 6: The, program yeah it is certainly. Not nothing there's so
Speaker 6: many things to Say. About gabe but LAST night i
Speaker 6: was saying this on, The, air gabe he just struggled
Speaker 6: with they shot, This, Year spence and, you're right he
Speaker 6: was top of the list in terms of teams trying
Speaker 6: to defend him and. Stop him and that kind of changed.
Speaker 3: A little bit towards the end of the, year because like,
Speaker 3: you said his percentages weren't. The same he lost.
Speaker 6: His competence he kind of got in an alex shooters
Speaker 6: and do but he never ever stopped being, a leader
Speaker 6: in particular with. His Defense often gabe was defending the
Speaker 6: other shooter on the other team or their. BEST player i,
Speaker 6: would say like the Biggest improvement gabe had from year
Speaker 6: one to, last night it's his defense and his desire
Speaker 6: and he was such a Good leader spence on so,
Speaker 6: many levels a quiet. Even killed, you know every team
Speaker 6: Needs A gay matson because he you can always look
Speaker 6: to him and expect to get something out of him on.
Speaker 3: Every possession and he.
Speaker 6: Did that, last night even though he didn't shoot a
Speaker 6: great till the. Very end he hit a couple and
Speaker 6: he had some wide open threes and you know he
Speaker 6: missed the layup and it was tough. WATCHING him i
Speaker 6: mean there's always some SADNESS because, i mean when, the
Speaker 6: ends then that's that's what's happening.
Speaker 3: For everybody what.
Speaker 1: About Loss And lowson lovering who clearly evolved, and improved
Speaker 1: and You know craig And, coach eilert they ran a
Speaker 1: lot of their offense through him because of his size
Speaker 1: and because of. HIS skill, i mean he really is
Speaker 1: a skilled, you know the free throw stuff is what.
Speaker 2: It is but, You KNOW lowton i.
Speaker 1: Think leaves here with his head, held high and, his
Speaker 1: father a very vocal social, media presence, you know points
Speaker 1: Out that lawson will leave with his, confidence intact his
Speaker 1: head held high and also. His degree So as losson exits, The,
Speaker 1: program sean what do you have to say?
Speaker 3: ABOUT him i love what his.
Speaker 6: DAD said I think i actually reposted that because we spent.
Speaker 3: You know this year in.
Speaker 6: This business in, the, end man these, are people right
Speaker 6: and get in a degree is what. IT'S about. I,
Speaker 6: mean NOW everyone i think has a different idea about
Speaker 6: whether they think that's.
Speaker 3: What's about but.
Speaker 6: Certainly, for me for, my family that degree has made a.
Speaker 6: BIG difference I think losson gave his heart and. His
Speaker 6: soul he's a kid who plays with a lot. Of
Speaker 6: passion he learned how to temper that a. Little bit,
Speaker 6: you know he's the kind of kid that would get
Speaker 6: balled hard and then, you know come running back up
Speaker 6: the floor and throw himself. Into somebody he got better
Speaker 6: and better. At that he was under a lot of pressure.
Speaker 6: This year you could really see In the uston game
Speaker 6: because as we use him as. A valve we used
Speaker 6: him as a valve in, our offense which means he
Speaker 6: would come get, a Catch and houston decided not to
Speaker 6: sag off of him but to put pressure on him as.
Speaker 6: A passer and, you know every other team did. SOMETHING
Speaker 6: different byu did the. Same thing they didn't, sag off
Speaker 6: and then, You, KNOW laws, i, THOUGHT honestly i thought
Speaker 6: he got. Better inside but one of the strengths Of
Speaker 6: a big twelve coaching style is they give a kid
Speaker 6: what they think he, can't make and so sometimes they.
Speaker 3: TEMPTED him.
Speaker 6: I thought my favorite thing about him at the end
Speaker 6: of the season and half half part of, the season
Speaker 6: at last half part of the season was he would
Speaker 6: look at the basket and his defender would be helping
Speaker 6: on somebody else as or somebody and he'd.
Speaker 3: Take one dribble. And dunk.
Speaker 6: You know that was kind Of the that was the
Speaker 6: famous The good laws going strong to.
Speaker 1: The hoop Last player i'll ask you about then we'll,
Speaker 1: move on, excuse me move on to. What's Next hunter
Speaker 1: erickson spent a couple of YEARS, at byu goes to Solid.
Speaker 1: COMMUNITY college i don't know who he thinks he is
Speaker 1: with that put back DUNK. AGAINST byu i didn't know
Speaker 1: he had that, In him like, goodness gracious But his
Speaker 1: hunter exits. The program kind of. Same question what would
Speaker 1: you say?
Speaker 6: About, him, YEAH yeah i mean another great. Kid man
Speaker 6: he never needed the limelight or. The spotlight he tried
Speaker 6: to defend as high level as. He could he was.
Speaker 6: Really physical he's a really. Nice, kid yeah. Super ethletic
Speaker 6: that's gonna be One that i'll. Not forget BILL and
Speaker 6: i could not believe it was a big. Time, dunk
Speaker 6: yeah in. My dreams And then hunter just he's all about.
Speaker 3: The. Team man he didn't care if he would.
Speaker 6: Say this, YOU know i don't care where he, used
Speaker 6: me how you. USE me i just want to be
Speaker 6: a part of. The team and he truly. Meant that and, You,
Speaker 6: know hunter he does have a year left now because
Speaker 6: of the new ruling with the junior college. Not COUNTING
Speaker 6: oh I, Think, HUNTER yeah I think hunter is a
Speaker 6: classic example Of a. UTAH kid i get to say
Speaker 6: This because I'm from utah who had a successful but
Speaker 6: not like.
Speaker 3: Over the top. College basketball, all.
Speaker 1: Right one, more question you're ACTUAL because i forgot to
Speaker 1: Ask you gabe's. Basketball future what DO you i don't
Speaker 1: know if HE'S an. NBA guy i wasn't Sure About,
Speaker 1: sam merrill And obviously sam has proven. Me wrong he's
Speaker 1: not JUST an. Nba guy he's a champ and he's
Speaker 1: making a lot. Of money but do You think gabe's
Speaker 1: basketball future includes, you know the ability, to uh, you
Speaker 1: know play somewhere for.
Speaker 6: A paycheck, i mean he definitely can play somewhere for.
Speaker 6: A paycheck i don't think that's going to BE. The
Speaker 6: Nba sam merrill is a good playmaker on top of
Speaker 6: a very good shooter and maybe, you know, more athletic
Speaker 6: which is. SAYING something. I think this is my. PERSONAL
Speaker 6: opinion I think gabe's knees aren't one. HUNDRED percent i
Speaker 6: think we saw him fight through some stuff that no
Speaker 6: one really ever. Talked About and i'm not saying that
Speaker 6: he's got an injury or anything, like THAT but i
Speaker 6: would say that he can definitely make, a paycheck and
Speaker 6: they're a lot of fun overseas places to. Do that
Speaker 6: if he had shot it more consistently this year and
Speaker 6: or if he goes if he gets, an invite, you
Speaker 6: know and he shoots it, really well you got to
Speaker 6: HAVE one nba skill and if that, WAS it i
Speaker 6: think maybe last year he came out with a little
Speaker 6: more pop in his shot than he did. This year
Speaker 6: but he can definitely make a paycheck if he wants.
Speaker 1: To somewhere, tim McMahon who Covers The dallas MAVERICKS for
Speaker 1: espn joined the Show on tuesday and Reported That alex
Speaker 1: jensen was going to be At the big.
Speaker 2: Twelve tournament did you, See, HIM sean.
Speaker 3: I did, see, Him yes.
Speaker 6: SUNDAY night i got, there Early and sunday night he
Speaker 6: And coach islert were coming off the out of the
Speaker 6: ELEVATOR and, I, said hi, gave him, you know dapped
Speaker 6: him up a little bit now and he kind of.
Speaker 6: Knows me but, you KNOW like i tell, YOU this
Speaker 6: i was, no GOOD but i was one of the
Speaker 6: first Guys In coach macjeris's walk, on hierarchy and so,
Speaker 6: You know i'm the guy who would go go up down,
Speaker 6: to say, you, know wow it's just nice to. Meet
Speaker 6: you he was very time he was there with. THE
Speaker 6: kids i talked to the. COACHES afterward i think there
Speaker 6: was some mixed emotion, about that, you know for him
Speaker 6: and for the coaches and. The athletes great that he.
Speaker 6: SHOWED up i. Love that not an easy situation. For
Speaker 6: anybody BUT then i think He left. Monday morning he
Speaker 6: wasn't at the tournament.
Speaker 2: As FAR as. I, know, oh okay.
Speaker 1: Ten, Four well i'm just wondering because my, guess, is
Speaker 1: well whether he was there. Or not i'm sure he watched.
Speaker 1: The game and my Guess Is kano dawes might catch.
Speaker 1: His eye my Guess Is ezra sar might catch. His
Speaker 1: Eye Or jake Waaleen Or shrab jams could not hit
Speaker 1: a shot, last night but he's six, or nine there's
Speaker 1: some measurables, to like or maybe even the mirror. Little
Speaker 1: kid any thoughts on who potentially could return to Play
Speaker 1: for alex, Next, YEAR.
Speaker 6: Yeah, i Mean If, i'm alex, you KNOW obviously i
Speaker 6: want to come in with, my BLUEPRINT what i think
Speaker 6: is best for, the PROGRAM what i think is going
Speaker 6: to be best for myself and my, coaching staff and
Speaker 6: obviously you got to get your coaching together as soon.
Speaker 6: As possible, and yeah absolutely he. Was WATCHING and i
Speaker 6: think the vibe from the kids was that he was.
Speaker 6: Easy going we know That about alex and that they
Speaker 6: felt comfortable. Around him so that's a.
Speaker 3: Good, Thing yeah KEANA does, I Mean i'm I'm a.
Speaker 6: Kadi fan i'm an as Fan As ezra alser brings.
Speaker 6: Joy man he is just a. Joyful kid and Other Than,
Speaker 6: keishawn hall he probably made people found him more. Than
Speaker 6: anybody that's probably, not accurate but he's in the top
Speaker 6: four as Far as Miro and Mike. And Jake jake
Speaker 6: wilelean did everything for us. This year he was a great.
Speaker 6: Utility player he needs to continue to work on his
Speaker 6: shot to get better because that's going to make. A
Speaker 6: difference but he was a great. Defensive player he's a legit.
Speaker 6: Six' ten mike's. GOT the Measurables i want mike to
Speaker 6: be maybe a shooting guard more than a point.
Speaker 3: Guard next year.
Speaker 6: IT'D be Great i hope alex has exactly what he
Speaker 6: wants in his head and, maybe you know some of
Speaker 6: those kids want to say and we'll.
Speaker 3: See HIM again so i.
Speaker 1: Know you've already referenced That you and alex aren't best,
Speaker 1: bugs or anything, but you know ultimately you guys do share,
Speaker 1: something in common and you Both played for rick and
Speaker 1: you Both ultimately are. Utah BASKETBALL lum and i like
Speaker 1: to think that's a family and a fraternity where you
Speaker 1: kind of all are in the same little pie or.
Speaker 1: What HAVE you, So, i wonder sean if you could
Speaker 1: illuminate us a little bit the reaction that you had
Speaker 1: and then the community that you kind of find yourself
Speaker 1: a part of when the news Became official that alex.
Speaker 6: Was, THE guy, yeah i mean, First of all. I'M super,
Speaker 6: excited i, was you know watching With coach Early Wine
Speaker 6: and coach connor that. Ninety eight final we made It
Speaker 6: Down to san Antonio and begg dwayne into. A hotel
Speaker 6: ROOM at. Least i did Connor And coach early. Wine
Speaker 6: Has something coach earline was one, of My Coaches and
Speaker 6: coach connor is my best man, in my wedding and
Speaker 6: we're we're absolutely close. To the friends, and you know
Speaker 6: we we we've Been Cheering for alex jensen for.
Speaker 3: A long time. We like him He's everything that utah
Speaker 3: basketball and coach.
Speaker 6: Mcjerifs was about He is. The paris mccurty you're not
Speaker 6: going to. Know the name he Played a Ball state
Speaker 6: of utah men's Basketball For coach coach majeris would always
Speaker 6: talk to us about, His Previous Player sidney, moncree paris
Speaker 6: mccurty and we had to hear about how. Tough, they
Speaker 6: were well that Is Absolutely who. Alex jensen is and
Speaker 6: if you're going to have a team coached by a
Speaker 6: person that has that persona he's. THE perfect, GUY i
Speaker 6: mean i don't know that you could hire anyone more
Speaker 6: than will connect the pass to the present and bring us.
Speaker 1: A New future so I'm Told, That andre miller i'm
Speaker 1: told that that is. In the works i'm not Going
Speaker 1: to say i'm told, that it's done but, conversations Are
Speaker 1: ongoing and i'm told that there's mutual Interest In. Making
Speaker 1: andre Miller, IF not alex's i would imagine he would be.
Speaker 2: THE lead assistant. I Don't.
Speaker 1: Know and, sean for me as, a gen Xer as
Speaker 1: a utah basketball fan and student, in the nineties the
Speaker 1: cachet and credibility you have when you walk into A
Speaker 1: Gym with andre miller on your, bench is like that, makes,
Speaker 1: Me excited Right and maybe i'm just of, a certain
Speaker 1: age and maybe the youngs don't really understand what a bad.
Speaker 2: Boy he was but give.
Speaker 1: Me your thoughts If, It is andre if They Land
Speaker 1: on Andre miller is, alex's lead assistant what do you?
Speaker 3: MAKE of, that, I mean yeah i.
Speaker 6: Hope IT is Also, i mean. Andre he's special he
Speaker 6: came into the program and your.
Speaker 3: Listeners are probably old enough.
Speaker 6: To know this HE was at, prop forty eight which
Speaker 6: means he had to sit out his first year and.
Speaker 6: Concentrate on school and, he did it and he came
Speaker 6: in and he and his mom were a huge Part
Speaker 6: of the university of.
Speaker 3: You talk community.
Speaker 6: He's the best i'm going to put him at the
Speaker 6: top of my list Form my favorite utah. PLAYER as,
Speaker 6: ever i mean he was a. Rebound down guard if,
Speaker 6: anything went wrong he e rectified it immediately on. The
Speaker 6: defensive end he had. A great, body i mean, just
Speaker 6: YOU know a i, would say like if You You
Speaker 6: have Alex Jensen and andre miller, and your staff the
Speaker 6: fans are going to really enjoy. What they see and
Speaker 6: certainly From a relating andre was in the league for
Speaker 6: sixteen years as a point guard and a. Good, POINT guard.
Speaker 3: Yeah i just think it's it's gonna.
Speaker 6: Be really helpful, and you know this move towards kind of,
Speaker 6: the pro style meaning that you bring people in that
Speaker 6: understand what it takes to get to the next level
Speaker 6: and what it takes to.
Speaker 3: Be a pro you can bring. That into college we're hearing.
Speaker 3: All about that.
Speaker 6: Those, Are two obviously alex is Already There and andre
Speaker 6: miller's been there and HE'S Coaching. The g league it's.
Speaker 3: A dream matchup it's a Dream. MADE in heaven i.
Speaker 1: Agree with you are you hearing any other rumors concerning
Speaker 1: names as far as filling out? The staff goes any
Speaker 1: thoughts for our listeners, Who, Are, CURIOUS sean.
Speaker 6: Yeah i, Haven't HEARD anything and I mean that i'm
Speaker 6: not JUST saying that i, am connected, to you know
Speaker 6: the team in a way. That IS unique and, I
Speaker 6: mean basically i know the current staff had a chance to,
Speaker 6: talk WITH him and i don't know what, those conversations
Speaker 6: were but you need to bring in some college coaches
Speaker 6: that have been coaching in college and they know, what's
Speaker 6: going on and you got to do. That Right away
Speaker 6: And i'm sure alex is working on, that right now putting,
Speaker 6: his staff together because We, know this spence it's crazy
Speaker 6: and it's hard and you got to. Get after it
Speaker 6: and it's a seven, day a week twenty, four to
Speaker 6: seven three hundred and too.
Speaker 3: MANY days job I wonder.
Speaker 2: If ALEX would, be, I Mean look josh eiler Played In.
Speaker 1: The big twelve he's been an Assistant In the big
Speaker 1: twelve at, two different STOPS and maybe i. Just feel
Speaker 1: bad my guess is he moved his, family out, here, you,
Speaker 1: know like yeah the transient coaching, life you know LIKE
Speaker 1: maybe it's, ptsd for me like growing up and moving
Speaker 1: a bunch of times because my father was. In PRO
Speaker 1: sports but i was feel bad, for the, FAMILIES you
Speaker 1: know I wonder if alex would be interested in having
Speaker 1: a guy that knows the Landscape of the Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: Like, JOSH eiler yeah, i love, THAT you know.
Speaker 6: I love THAT i love I think coach. Eiler is
Speaker 6: great his affect is a little, hard to read so
Speaker 6: meaning that sometimes he's. KIND of flat i think that's.
Speaker 6: ALSO his strengths i think he's got a. Lot of,
Speaker 6: passion you know he's a. Big man coach he would.
Speaker 6: Consider himself, that but yeah Seventeen Years at west Virginia And,
Speaker 6: under bob huggins and He Played. At KANSAS state and
Speaker 6: i just talked to his. Wife last night kids and
Speaker 6: his wife were coming in and we just talked about how.
Speaker 6: Hard it, is you know what are the chances two
Speaker 6: years in a row is an? Interim head, coach you
Speaker 6: know no one really wants that title because there's just
Speaker 6: so much pressure and often you're not going to. Get
Speaker 6: the job he had A Year, at WEST virginia but
Speaker 6: i like. That a lot but you, know WHAT you
Speaker 6: and i know Is it's. Ultimately, alex's decision.
Speaker 1: Well and, also as men you walk into a room
Speaker 1: and you size people up, and you're, LIKE all right
Speaker 1: i could. KICK his ass i could. Kick His Ass
Speaker 1: when josh eiler walks, into a gym you know That's.
Speaker 1: A big yeah you want him, On your side you
Speaker 1: want him.
Speaker 3: ON your side i. Agree, With, YOU yeah no i
Speaker 3: wish my. Knee so worked i'd love to. GO out
Speaker 3: there i know he.
Speaker 6: LIKES to play i know he likes, to PLAY still
Speaker 6: but i have a filion that we would have fun playing.
Speaker 3: Against each other i'd love.
Speaker 1: To, see that, Hey last Thing sean that i'll sell
Speaker 1: You loose and I'm gonna play devil's advocate a. Little
Speaker 1: Bit here and i'm Not necessarily saying I'm right.
Speaker 2: OR i'm wrong i don't.
Speaker 1: Do combative radio this is, not FIRST take but i
Speaker 1: would be curious to get your thoughts, as an alum
Speaker 1: because for the, Last Two coaches Larry Kriskoviak, And craig
Speaker 1: smith i've had alums join the show that have complained
Speaker 1: that these two coaches Didn't necessarily embrace utah alums the
Speaker 1: way that they would hope, here's my question is that
Speaker 1: part of, The JOB description like i have a hard
Speaker 1: time believing That, if you're larry Or, if you're craig
Speaker 1: or Now, if you're alex like your job is to,
Speaker 1: coach this team, it's to recruit it's to build. Up
Speaker 1: the program it's not to make sure every alum that
Speaker 1: calls you get gets the most access. They possibly can
Speaker 1: and this is coming from somebody that Has a very
Speaker 1: i'll even use the term Reverent.
Speaker 2: Respect for Utah basketball.
Speaker 1: And UTAH alums and i do think part Of maybe
Speaker 1: restoring utah basketball to glory could be, embracing the community
Speaker 1: maybe A way That larry.
Speaker 2: And craig didn't but.
Speaker 1: Sometimes those complaints, in my opinion greek of a little,
Speaker 1: bit of, like you know you're wanting more than a
Speaker 1: guy whose job it is to focus on his team
Speaker 1: is willing.
Speaker 2: To give you does, That, Make, sense, sean yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: THAT makes sense i. AGREE with you i. COULDN'T agree
Speaker 3: more I know the larry.
Speaker 6: Staff REALLY well, Like I said coash connor is, my
Speaker 6: best man, my Best Friend and DAMARLANE andy and i
Speaker 6: Got interviewed by larry to do a job that it just.
Speaker 6: Didn't pan out it. DIDN'T work out i was going
Speaker 6: to be, the strength COACH and so i Got to
Speaker 6: know larry.
Speaker 3: A little bit i think.
Speaker 6: YOU'RE right on i think this sum alone like to
Speaker 6: complain about maybe what they see as, Themselves being slided
Speaker 6: but most alum. Don't do that but the ones that
Speaker 6: do do speak out a. Little bit, LOUDER and yeah
Speaker 6: i do think it's a part. Of THE job and
Speaker 6: I don't think craig did a good. Job With it
Speaker 6: and i'm not trying to be, mean TO him but
Speaker 6: i don't think he ever truly Bought into what Utah
Speaker 6: is or. Utah Can be and alex, obviously does know
Speaker 6: and he is very close probably with most of the
Speaker 6: alum that our fan base would like to know is
Speaker 6: a part of the community again IN whatever, way i,
Speaker 6: don't you know showing, up to games showing up for
Speaker 6: events where fans can, talk to him all that kind,
Speaker 6: of Stuff matters and alex has got a direct link
Speaker 6: and he's going to be really, good AT it and
Speaker 6: i think he's going to. Bring them, back you Know
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Speaker 1: show aaron shatt stops By on. A, Wednesday, AFTERNOON aaron
Speaker 1: happy Nfl.
Speaker 2: Free agency wednesday, how, You, Doing man.
Speaker 7: Hey, i'm good yes start of the league year. An
Speaker 7: hour ago of course we knew all the news for two.
Speaker 7: Days before, that but yeah.
Speaker 2: Here, we are, here.
Speaker 1: We are indeed so let's just get to some of
Speaker 1: the moves that have gone down and just kind of.
Speaker 1: Your instant reaction let's talk About the decision seattle made
Speaker 1: to Move On from geno smith in The Name. Of,
Speaker 1: sam darnald aaron what's your take on the quarterback Situation
Speaker 1: and how seattle decided to go.
Speaker 7: ABOUT this, Process i mean i'm one of the many
Speaker 7: people Who Questions what sam darnold is going to be
Speaker 7: able to do without the structure that He. Had, in
Speaker 7: Seattle sorry In Minnesota with Justin Jefferson and jordan Addison,
Speaker 7: and PAY howkinson and i don't know who's going to
Speaker 7: be Playing. Receiver in, seattle you know They Have, a
Speaker 7: smith njigba And They Signed marquez, valdez scantling today but
Speaker 7: there isn't a lot of receiving. Talent there now as
Speaker 7: far as, the Blocking goes the seattle offensive line is,
Speaker 7: not very Good but the minnesota offensive line was actually
Speaker 7: not that good in the second half of. The season
Speaker 7: Either and the seattle offensive Coordinator, is a koubiac so
Speaker 7: he comes from a similar Tree as. The minnesota offense so,
Speaker 7: In that way darnold should, be you know it should.
Speaker 7: Translate fairly well but it was a real surprise when
Speaker 7: They Traded, away gino smith who, is getting older, but
Speaker 7: you know has been pretty successful for the last.
Speaker 1: Couple Of Years so san francisco is now moving into
Speaker 1: the reality the pro football manifest when you've got to
Speaker 1: pay a rookie quarterback and they're clearing the deck to
Speaker 1: pay to, put you know To. Pay rock party did they?
Speaker 1: Miss a window and what do you make of what
Speaker 1: is going to Happen Next. In, san francisco yeah.
Speaker 7: They've lost a, lot of guys but, not a, ton
Speaker 7: you know not their. Most important guys for, THE most part.
Speaker 7: I don't think i think we Should Still see san
Speaker 7: francisco bounce back with better. Health next year they were
Speaker 7: the most injured team in the league according to my
Speaker 7: adjusted games lost stat so they should bounce. Back next,
Speaker 7: year but yeah, they you know they do have to
Speaker 7: lose some guys because if you have, to pay party
Speaker 7: you have other guys. You can't pay and they've lost
Speaker 7: something like. Ten different guys.
Speaker 1: Tell me your favorite move SO far before i get
Speaker 1: back to. Some, specific, questions player. Team Best Transaction, ACCORDING
Speaker 1: aaron Chats I like Joey.
Speaker 7: Boasta the buffalo it's only. For, A year obviously bosa's,
Speaker 7: had injury issues so you question how healthy he's. Going
Speaker 7: to be But what does buffalo need more than anything
Speaker 7: else To Get to patrick mahomes, in the playoffs and,
Speaker 7: so you know all the edge rush that, they can
Speaker 7: Add They. Added michael Hoyt They. Added joey bosa all
Speaker 7: the edge rush that they can.
Speaker 2: Add is good biggest head. Scratcher, So far Eron.
Speaker 7: Oh why Houston Traded. AWAY laramie tunsel.
Speaker 2: I would imagine you like what the commanders are, Doing, so.
Speaker 7: Far yes, somewhat you know they re signed some older veterans.
Speaker 7: AND that's nice i Don't Know if peebo samuel is
Speaker 7: going to be as good as they think he's. Going
Speaker 7: To be jonathan allen is a good player and it's
Speaker 7: hard to, see HIM go although I will say i
Speaker 7: talked To someone FROM washington when I was in indianapolis,
Speaker 7: for the combine and there's a lot of that is.
Speaker 7: A personality issue It's not that, alan can't play it's
Speaker 7: that nobody likes, him so honestly he does not get
Speaker 7: a lug. With his, Teammates, oh wow wow that's sort
Speaker 7: of the Story.
Speaker 1: THERE with alan i did not Know that The Rams
Speaker 1: acquire DeVante adams And They. RELEASE cooper cup, i get,
Speaker 1: IT you know i understand as far as the, Dollars,
Speaker 1: and cents yeah you have to make.
Speaker 2: These things work but we're not too Far Removed.
Speaker 1: From cooper cup not just being one of the best
Speaker 1: wide receivers, in pro football but considered one of the
Speaker 1: best players. In pro football so give, Me your thoughts
Speaker 1: aaron On what the rams decided to do.
Speaker 2: And what do you think Is Next.
Speaker 7: For, cooper cup yeah the injuries have sapped A. Lot
Speaker 7: from cup he did really bad last year in ESPN's
Speaker 7: receiver tracking metrics that are based on, next GEN stats
Speaker 7: so i don't know how much he's got left. In
Speaker 7: the tank he's a great guy to take a flyer
Speaker 7: on and see whether he can get back to the
Speaker 7: greatness of, three YEARS ago but i don't know. If
Speaker 7: he can adams is. An interesting addition he is not A.
Speaker 7: Replacement for cup he's a very different. Kind of receiver
Speaker 7: he's really The Upgrade, on debarcus robinson who, has gone
Speaker 7: elsewhere and they're Going to replace cup, in other ways.
Speaker 1: What do you think This it means as far as
Speaker 1: the continued Growth of pooka nakua local boy who played
Speaker 1: his high school and college, ball, AROUND here, WELL i.
Speaker 7: Mean i Think everybody agrees pookinakua is one of the
Speaker 7: best receivers in the, game RIGHT now so i think
Speaker 7: he's clearly the Established number one he's the number One Guy.
Speaker 7: In los angeles there's no.
Speaker 1: Question, About, that Well aaron as i've, TOLD you before
Speaker 1: i am a longtime suffering Fan Of The New, York
Speaker 1: football jets and you know what is?
Speaker 2: This bottoming out is that?
Speaker 1: WHAT it, Is I mean justin fields a, couple of years,
Speaker 1: one year rental and then you're trying to potentially draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback in a what apparently is a good quarterback
Speaker 1: class in a.
Speaker 2: Couple of years what do You think the jets are trying?
Speaker 7: TO do here i kind of think that that there
Speaker 7: is sort of this feeling among a lot of, People
Speaker 7: Because look justin fields does some, really awesome things and
Speaker 7: so people want to believe that there is this above
Speaker 7: average quarterback that.
Speaker 3: Is hit it.
Speaker 7: In there somewhere it's, been for years and he was
Speaker 7: kind of average last year in a, small sample size
Speaker 7: and he was really bad the three years before that
Speaker 7: in a much. Larger sample size and the odds that
Speaker 7: he is a good QUARTERBACK in the nfl after four years.
Speaker 7: It's really unlikely, and if anything it's really unlikely it'll
Speaker 7: Happen with the jets because what we've seen, is, the
Speaker 7: opposite right Guys leave.
Speaker 3: The jets and then.
Speaker 7: They PLAY well so, I you know i think it's
Speaker 7: Likely that the jets will struggle, and then yeah they'll
Speaker 7: they'll they'll go after a quarterback in the twenty, twenty
Speaker 7: six draft which is supposed.
Speaker 1: To, be better yeah oftentimes guys Do leave the jets.
Speaker 1: AND play well i do wonder what you make of
Speaker 1: any sort of Potential Future. For zach wilson, who you
Speaker 1: Know we had zach out here AND during, The Covid
Speaker 1: year brigham young was able to cobble together A schedule
Speaker 1: and zach shined against teams, that weren't great, and you
Speaker 1: know being able to watch him up, CLOSE out here
Speaker 1: i was very skeptical that he would ever be able
Speaker 1: TO be, an nfl quarterback let alone for my. Favorite
Speaker 1: football team didn't Work Out. In new york you spent
Speaker 1: Some time in denver as. A third stringer now He.
Speaker 1: Lands in miami do you THINK there's a nfl Future Ahead. For,
Speaker 1: ZACH wilson, NO i.
Speaker 7: Mean i, think he's, got you know a few more years.
Speaker 7: As a BACKUP but the covid. Year was weird that
Speaker 7: was just a. Really weird year the stat scout guys look,
Speaker 7: At You know trey lance for. Crying OUT loud so
Speaker 7: I Don't think zach wilson. Has a Future, and certainly,
Speaker 7: miami you know Two attack of iloa is. The starter
Speaker 7: there And you know mike McDaniel has had problems adapting
Speaker 7: when he.
Speaker 2: Has to go.
Speaker 7: To A backup so i don't know how good that's
Speaker 7: going To be if wilson.
Speaker 2: Has to play where?
Speaker 1: Do you think this Is not, a JETS question but
Speaker 1: i was at least encouraged they moved On. From throw
Speaker 1: ROGAN that's What I. Call aaron rodgers where Do You
Speaker 1: think aaron rodgers is playing?
Speaker 2: Football? Next, year.
Speaker 7: Oh god it sounds like he's going to. END up,
Speaker 7: somewhere i mean there's a lot of This. WHISPERING about
Speaker 7: pittsburgh i don't think that he's a good match with,
Speaker 7: Their Offensive. Coordinator arthur smith he likes to run a
Speaker 7: lot of under center. Play action stuff rogers doesn't, like
Speaker 7: doing that and he doesn't like turning his back, to
Speaker 7: the defense and he wants to Be IN shotgun and
Speaker 7: i don't think that's, a good marriage but it sounds
Speaker 7: like that might be the. MOST likely marriage. I don't
Speaker 7: know i wouldn't he he was a below average. Quarterback
Speaker 7: last year when you add the questions about what he
Speaker 7: means to the locker, ROOM and everything.
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't i. Wouldn't Go There.
Speaker 2: If russell wilson Isn't, back in pittsburgh where's he playing? Football?
Speaker 2: Next year.
Speaker 7: Cleveland maybe there's apparently he had a Meeting WITH the,
Speaker 7: brown i mean He's Better, than kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2: So maybe cleveland, huh goodness? Gracious all right who else?
Speaker 1: Is out there when YOU look at i mean most
Speaker 1: of the, big name guys it's already reported that they're
Speaker 1: that they're kind.
Speaker 2: Of locked up but who else? Is out there they're
Speaker 2: kind of waiting to. Hear the.
Speaker 7: NEWS wide Receivers I think stefan did, for an example.
Speaker 7: Is still available i'm trying to think who else. Is
Speaker 7: Out there draymont jones is. A Defensive tackle cam. Robinson
Speaker 7: offensive tackles some people think he maynd Up. WITH the
Speaker 7: patriots a lot of the top free. AGENTS are Gone, i,
Speaker 7: Mean cup right cup, is now available, So he again
Speaker 7: cup is a real high floor, sorry low floor high
Speaker 7: feeling kind. Of a signing you could have to give
Speaker 7: a lot of money to guys going to do.
Speaker 8: Nothing for you but he.
Speaker 3: Could be awesome you.
Speaker 2: Don't really know what do You think the giants are?
Speaker 1: Going to do you think they're going to play their
Speaker 1: hand of the draft or they going to take a
Speaker 1: shot of one of.
Speaker 2: These aging qbs.
Speaker 7: HERE'S the problem i think that a lot of People
Speaker 7: Feel that shador sanders is not worth the. Top THREE pick,
Speaker 7: so i Mean if the giants, want a quarterback they
Speaker 7: if They, want cam ward they really have to trade
Speaker 7: up To. Get cam ward they really have to make
Speaker 7: A trade with tennessee and get into the number one
Speaker 7: spot To. TAKE cam ward i don't know if they're, gonna.
Speaker 3: DO that and i don't know what.
Speaker 7: THE alternative, is i mean they've been linked by Some
Speaker 7: people to. Rogers as well there just don't seem to
Speaker 7: be enough starting quarterbacks right now for all the, teams
Speaker 7: that need for all.
Speaker 2: The love that shador Is getting.
Speaker 1: Cam ward's getting let me ask you about another local
Speaker 1: project who played his high, school ball Here And, that's
Speaker 1: jackson darts who seemed to have a pretty good. PRE
Speaker 1: draft process i don't know if he's played his way
Speaker 1: into the area of where those, Two were at but
Speaker 1: what do you make of the pro Future Potential.
Speaker 2: For jackson dart I'LL admit that i don't know.
Speaker 7: That, much about dart but he's, not seen certainly nobody
Speaker 7: sees him as being. IN the Area i think ward
Speaker 7: is very clearly, seen As one and sanders has, seen
Speaker 7: as two and no other quarterback has really seen as
Speaker 7: a first round.
Speaker 1: Pick this year Speaking, of the giants their former quarterback
Speaker 1: is Now. With The colts daniel jones Signs with the
Speaker 1: colts and the reports are he's going To Compete with
Speaker 1: anthony richardson for. The Starting Job and anthony richardson is
Speaker 1: a quarterback who we saw here in A town with
Speaker 1: florida and played the utes a lot of. Intoxicating physical
Speaker 1: attributes but, IT'S never well i. Shouldn't say never so
Speaker 1: far our first couple of years hasn't. Really clicked consistently
Speaker 1: what do you make Of what the colts? Decided to
Speaker 1: do is just is this, like a hey come show
Speaker 1: him how to? Be a pro or Do You think
Speaker 1: daniel jones could?
Speaker 7: GET that, JOB i mean i think they're kind of Trying.
Speaker 7: To poke richardson They're hoping that richardson claims the. Job and,
Speaker 7: improves RICHARD said if i believe is still Younger than
Speaker 7: Cam Ward. And shodor sanders he came, out so young,
Speaker 7: so you know there's still the possibility that he's going.
Speaker 7: To REALLY blossom and i think that's what the cults
Speaker 7: are dreaming is. Going to happen they don't want to Have.
Speaker 7: To play Jones they want richardson to. Claim that Job
Speaker 7: they want richardson, to stay Healthy they want. Richardson to
Speaker 7: improve but this is an insurance policy in case those.
Speaker 7: THINGS Don't, happen.
Speaker 1: Dk metcalf You referenced earlier seattle kind of getting rid
Speaker 1: of a. BUNCH of pieces i don't know how this
Speaker 1: dealer's quarterback is, going to be but If, it is
Speaker 1: russell will they? Know each other do You think the
Speaker 1: Steelers going after metcalf is an indicator that maybe they.
Speaker 2: Want, russ back.
Speaker 7: No but it might be an indicator that they want
Speaker 7: to Move On, from george pickens who only has a
Speaker 7: year left on his contract and is a very similar
Speaker 7: style OF Receiver, to dk metcalf only with some issues.
Speaker 7: With HIS personality so, i you know this may be
Speaker 7: the sign that that pick they're not Going to resign pickens.
Speaker 2: After this, year all right let's.
Speaker 1: Look ahead, a little bit and obviously we, have the
Speaker 1: draft and we have plenty, of you know the personnel
Speaker 1: decisions that are left. To be made you reference some
Speaker 1: of The decisions the bills, decided to execute, and you
Speaker 1: Know bringing in Bosa And paying josh allen a. Bowtload
Speaker 1: of money but if you look through that at the
Speaker 1: LANDSCAPE of the, afc right now who are just some
Speaker 1: of the teams based off of who's returning you think
Speaker 1: have a chance to come out.
Speaker 2: OF the, conference i.
Speaker 7: Mean we're Still, talking about listen the four best quarterbacks PLAY,
Speaker 7: in the Afc and the bengals. Have defensive problems so
Speaker 7: the best teams of, the other three Right, it's The,
Speaker 7: chiefs the Ravens. And, the Bills now the ravens were
Speaker 7: the healthiest team in the. League last year they are
Speaker 7: unlikely to be as, healthy next year so they're going
Speaker 7: to decline. A little bit but they also had some
Speaker 7: weird losses with some bad luck that they probably aren't
Speaker 7: going to. Have NEXT year, SO i mean i think
Speaker 7: those are the top three TEAMS. In the, AFC you
Speaker 7: know i think when we talk about, competition next year
Speaker 7: we'll talk about those three teams and then some team
Speaker 7: we're not expecting. That surprises Us?
Speaker 1: What about, houston you know it was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a tough sophomore campaign after a GREAT.
Speaker 2: Rookieyear.
Speaker 1: For cj stroud what do you Make of the? Texans
Speaker 1: next year do you think they continue to move in?
Speaker 1: The right direction the Struggle.
Speaker 7: For the texans is that they were so built around,
Speaker 7: defense last year and defense is less consistent and less.
Speaker 7: Predicted than offense and the offense. Really had problems the
Speaker 7: offensive line. Really Had problems tank dell probably out for.
Speaker 7: The ENTIRE season so i see the world in which
Speaker 7: another TEAM Wins the afc south as Much talent as
Speaker 7: houston has on the defensive side, OF the ball i
Speaker 7: think there is an opportunity there For someone like jacksonville
Speaker 7: to jump up and surprise people. With the DIVISION not
Speaker 7: That i think jacksonville is going to really compete, for
Speaker 7: the conference but surprise people.
Speaker 3: In the division moving OVER, to.
Speaker 1: The nfc Where The defending super bowl champs exist with
Speaker 1: a roster full, of really good. Really young players they
Speaker 1: paid saque. Of the Offseason is it philly?
Speaker 2: And everybody? Else next year who else you think can
Speaker 2: throw Punches?
Speaker 8: With?
Speaker 2: THE eagles no i Mean.
Speaker 7: It wasn't philly and everybody, else last, YEAR you, Know
Speaker 7: i mean philly had a nice run, in the playoffs but.
Speaker 7: That was great but there are, PLENTY of others i
Speaker 7: mean strong look First, of all detroit Second Of, all
Speaker 7: green bay which is very young and was very. Good
Speaker 7: Last year the rams are Certainly competitive With puka and
Speaker 7: stafford and their. Young defensive. Line defensive line washington is
Speaker 7: an interesting. Team to watch minnesota is an interesting. Team,
Speaker 7: to watch yeah there's no reason to Believe that it's
Speaker 7: philly and everybody Else just because philly managed to win
Speaker 7: the Conference In.
Speaker 1: The Super bowl is minnesota's PLAN just now jj McCarthy
Speaker 1: or are they going to try?
Speaker 6: To?
Speaker 2: Bridge me oh it is okay.
Speaker 7: In it there's Some talk about, rogers GOING there, but
Speaker 7: i mean why would. You do that if you believe in,
Speaker 7: your draft process then YOU believe. In jj McCarthy why
Speaker 7: would You bring in rogers and sit McCarthy.
Speaker 3: For a year it.
Speaker 7: Doesn't make, Sense ALL.
Speaker 1: Right before i, set you loose, Appreciate, The time aaron
Speaker 1: i'll ask you about the team that most people around
Speaker 1: here tier four based. Off of, proximity not everybody but
Speaker 1: we have A Lot of denver bronco fans. In this
Speaker 1: market So YEAR Two. Bonicks afc west what does it
Speaker 1: look like Next?
Speaker 7: Year, IN denver yeah I mean if bonnicks can continue
Speaker 7: to play the way he did in the last three quarters,
Speaker 7: of the year that. Looks very good their defense. Is
Speaker 7: very talented they have added a really couple of Nice
Speaker 7: Pieces with Drake Greenlaw, and talanoa hufanga who both come
Speaker 7: over from the. Forty NINE ers so i definitely think
Speaker 7: it looks Good for the broncos to be. Competitive NEXT
Speaker 7: year when i said that it's probably going To, be The,
Speaker 7: ravens The, bills the chiefs and one other team that,
Speaker 7: could surprise you that Definitely, could be denver especially with
Speaker 7: the defensive pieces.
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Speaker 2: Aaron, thank you sir.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the time have, a good, week all, right all
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Speaker 1: About ONE thing my psa of THE day that i
Speaker 1: basically do every year on the station basketball knowledge will
Speaker 1: do no good when it comes to filling. Out a
Speaker 1: bracket every year ABOUT this time i get some emails
Speaker 1: and some text from aunts and uncles that have office pools, and,
Speaker 1: they say hey can? You HELP me and, I say
Speaker 1: no because it doesn't matter how much college. Basketball you
Speaker 1: watch this thing is the, ultimate wildcard event WHICH is,
Speaker 1: why i believe, in my opinion this. Is just me
Speaker 1: this is the best individual sporting event we have, On Our.
Speaker 1: Calendar march madness i've loved.
Speaker 2: IT ever since i. WAS a kid i consume it.
Speaker 1: EVERY single year i badly missed The years When university
Speaker 1: of utah was not just, not just qualifying but. Advancing
Speaker 1: SEVERAL rounds maybe byu will HAVE a. Fun Ncaa Tournament
Speaker 1: maybe utah state.
Speaker 2: Makes some.
Speaker 1: Noise who knows but it does not matter how, much
Speaker 1: you know does not matter how, much you watch you
Speaker 1: will not get. This thing right so as we get,
Speaker 1: closer and closer the Tournament starts on, march the nineteenth
Speaker 1: which is one. Week from today we'll. Get you ready
Speaker 1: we'll help you. A Little bit ken palmroy is going
Speaker 1: to be In, studio on friday so he'll. Help you
Speaker 1: out if there's anyone, to listen to It. Would be
Speaker 1: Ken So? The big twelve how many tournament Teams Will the?
Speaker 1: Big twelve get according To This, is jerry palm one.
Speaker 1: Of the bracketologists the locks right Now In, the big,
Speaker 1: twelve Of, Course, Are, Houston Arizona Brigham, Young, iowa State Kansas.
Speaker 2: And texas tech those are the lots, On the Bubble Baylor.
Speaker 1: And west virginia And here's what jerry has to Say about.
Speaker 1: The big twelve, As of now houston on course to
Speaker 1: be a number one seed for THE third. Straight ncublea
Speaker 1: tournament houston ran away with, the conference title winning by
Speaker 1: Four Games. Over texas tech they're going to look To
Speaker 1: reach the sweet sixteen for THE fifth, straight ncublea tournament
Speaker 1: but of course have higher. Aspirations Than that calvin Sampson
Speaker 1: has a national. Championship Contending Squad red raiders iowa stayed
Speaker 1: in the hunt for a top four. Seed as well
Speaker 1: It looks, LIKE BYU's well i don't want, to SAY
Speaker 1: ceiling because byu certainly could go on a run and
Speaker 1: win some games. And change it but, as of now
Speaker 1: It Looks like brigham young's gonna be. A, five seed
Speaker 1: kansas your, preseason number one just to struggle to play.
Speaker 1: At that level ever since the Calendar, turned to december
Speaker 1: back to Back losses To, creyton and missouri they have
Speaker 1: one three game winning, streak since then And that was
Speaker 1: january fifth, through the eleventh which is right after the
Speaker 1: first of their. Three home losses THE seed and Byu
Speaker 1: truck Them KANSAS and provo u ninety One fifty. Seventh
Speaker 1: february eighteenth that's the worst loss ever handed to a
Speaker 1: preseason NUMBER one team byu eight game winning streak after
Speaker 1: that Bad, loss to cincinnati and during that eight GAME
Speaker 1: winning streak byu as all Of their five. Quad One
Speaker 1: Wins so west virginia, On the bubble baylor.
Speaker 2: On the BUBBLE.
Speaker 1: Baylor, has vj edgecombe who's a top, five projected pick
Speaker 1: and If you're, a jazz fan hone in on some
Speaker 1: of these, projected you know top four. Or Five picks
Speaker 1: Ace Bailey and dylan harper will not be, in The
Speaker 1: tournament unless rutgers might. ALREADY be out i haven't, checked
Speaker 1: The score but rutgers has two of the top three
Speaker 1: prospects in the land and they're not even going to.
Speaker 1: Make The tournament so baylor had that HOME, loss to
Speaker 1: tcu which. Of course stung so we'll See how many
Speaker 1: big twelve, teams get in and WE'LL see what byu
Speaker 1: is able To Do against iowa state.
Speaker 3: Coming.
Speaker 2: Up tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Utah, by the way so porter you referenced you're hearing
Speaker 1: The potential of utah accepting a bid to play in
Speaker 1: one of. THESE postseason tournaments i don't have any. Insight
Speaker 1: at all we know it's not GONNA BE The. Nc
Speaker 1: doublea tournament it's probably not, gonna be well.
Speaker 2: It's not GONNA be.
Speaker 1: The nit tournament do you have any insight on what
Speaker 1: this tournament? Is Out there the utah is looking at. Potentially,
Speaker 1: Playing it sorry i'm losing. My well email let's just.
Speaker 2: Look over some.
Speaker 1: OF these, possibilities i mean THERE. Is, the cbi oh
Speaker 1: you know. What it Is It's The, college BASKETBALL. Crown
Speaker 1: the cbc. That's, The one yeah So It's The, college
Speaker 1: basketball crown which is a brand. New, Postseason tournament okay
Speaker 1: and ACCORDING to what i have in, front Of Me
Speaker 1: The college basketball crown is added to the. Landscape this
Speaker 1: year so YOU HAVE The, nc doublea tournament which of
Speaker 1: course is the tournament everybody wants. To play in it's
Speaker 1: the main reason college basketball is. Still a, jet you
Speaker 1: know they. Still generate revenue it's a revenue generating sport
Speaker 1: Only Because, of march madness which means that if YOU
Speaker 1: are a p four institution with a basketball pro that's
Speaker 1: not QUALIFYING For the ncaa tournament And Playing, in march
Speaker 1: madness you're leaving a lot, On the table like you
Speaker 1: need a basketball PROGRAM that's an ncaa tournament team more,
Speaker 1: often than not because if you, don't have that you're
Speaker 1: losing out on a, lot of revenue losing out on a.
Speaker 2: Lot of opportunity so YOU'VE Got, the.
Speaker 1: Ncublea tournament YOU have the nit which has always kind of,
Speaker 1: been the backup AND, then The cbi which utah played
Speaker 1: in not, too long ago And Now The, college basketball
Speaker 1: crown which is going to BE At The Mgm grand
Speaker 1: garden ARENA And The t Mobile Arena in Las vegas
Speaker 1: from March thirty FIRST april sixth i, don't know this
Speaker 1: but my mind is telling me that is Actually During.
Speaker 1: The final Four So This college basketball Crown that reportedly
Speaker 1: utah is in the mix four is, a single elimination
Speaker 1: sixteen team tournament that features Schools From, the Big Ten,
Speaker 1: the big East And.
Speaker 2: The big TWELVE so no SEC and. No acc huh.
Speaker 1: Fifteen games will be played, during the week with all
Speaker 1: Games airing ON fox. And Fs One college basketball. Crown
Speaker 1: will air oh, here it Is So The college basketball
Speaker 1: crown is going to air on the same Days As,
Speaker 1: The March madness Elite Eight. And, final four well good.
Speaker 1: Luck With That The college basketball crown is starting this
Speaker 1: year they're going to Compete with the elite eight in
Speaker 1: the final four RUNS during the nit semi final. And championship,
Speaker 1: games and so ACCORDING to what i have in, Front
Speaker 1: of me utah might be in the mix for what's
Speaker 1: known as The.
Speaker 2: College basketball crown, here's the question do you want?
Speaker 4: To Do it That's that's, what i'm wondering because we
Speaker 4: were we started, the show, off you know kind of
Speaker 4: talking about how it felt like the team ran out
Speaker 4: of gas, a, little bit right and obviously they've been
Speaker 4: dealing with from, an emotional standpoint a bunch of stuff
Speaker 4: over the. LAST few, weeks i, always you, know think,
Speaker 4: that you know why would you want to go? Play
Speaker 4: another game why would you want to keep playing when
Speaker 4: when this is? Where you STAND but then i put
Speaker 4: myself in the ship news Of Seniors, of josh eilert maybe,
Speaker 4: of you know guys that are interviewing essentially, for A
Speaker 4: job and i'm probably campaigning to play a little, bit.
Speaker 4: More basketball right that's that's just the the inner ethos,
Speaker 4: of an athlete. Of a, competitor so yeah. Go play
Speaker 4: it if someone's gonna invite you to come play, in
Speaker 4: a tournament even if they're Competing With the final, four
Speaker 4: on television even if nobody's gonna maybe necessarily WATCH. It
Speaker 4: on tv you might be playing in front of an
Speaker 4: arena where it's your mom and your grandma and the opponent's. Mom,
Speaker 4: and grandma hey you're. Still playing basketball and if, you're
Speaker 4: a Senior If, you're josh eilert if you're any of
Speaker 4: the guys, on that staff that's probably better than going
Speaker 4: home and. Doing your paperwork so why not why not
Speaker 4: play a little? Bit? More, hoops.
Speaker 2: Conflicted yeah, so real quick.
Speaker 1: Some Breaking news sham sharon he Has Reporting the utah
Speaker 1: jazz have been, fined excuse me one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for violations Of The. Player participation policy, the context Here,
Speaker 1: according to shams is the violation Occurred when the jazz
Speaker 1: failed to Make Star forward lowry marketen Available against The wizards,
Speaker 1: on march fifth as well as. Other recent games the
Speaker 1: RELEASE From the nba communications departments simply JUST says what i.
Speaker 2: Just told you that's all you. Need to know.
Speaker 1: You could find teams every. NIGHT for this i don't
Speaker 1: fully Understand why the jazz are the team they're. Honed
Speaker 1: in on and, by the way let Me be clear.
Speaker 1: I'm for this it's the and THE problem is nba,
Speaker 1: owners these days most of, them are billionaires and one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars for them is what you find in.
Speaker 1: Your couch cushion but the only way to curtail this
Speaker 1: issue that, pro basketball has and it, IS an issue
Speaker 1: i don't care, what anyone says go ahead and send.
Speaker 2: ME, YOUR statement nba i don't. GIVE a rip i
Speaker 2: think is to do. This more consistently and.
Speaker 1: The plan was like way back, In The day greg
Speaker 1: popovich actually started all of This with san, antonio a long,
Speaker 1: long time ago quite frankly Started It when david robinson
Speaker 1: was set to return from a back Injury and, san,
Speaker 1: antonio said oh you, Think you're. Healthy you're not you're going,
Speaker 1: to stay home and, while You're Home watch wake forest
Speaker 1: and watch the senior that plays For Them. Named tim
Speaker 1: Duncan robinson sat spurs get the number one Pick They.
Speaker 2: Draft tim duncan the.
Speaker 1: Rest is, history Later, On, As duncan jnobili parker and
Speaker 1: that group, Started to age popovich incrementally held them out
Speaker 1: Here There and david stern threatens and then did find
Speaker 1: him for sitting players when they were healthy. Ready to
Speaker 1: go this is kind of the deal where everybody just,
Speaker 1: started DOING it so i guess you can't fight. Everybody
Speaker 1: every night i'm not exactly sure why they pointed Out
Speaker 1: Specifically the, utah JAZZ when, like i said every single,
Speaker 1: team Does this but jazz have been five one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for violations of the. Player participation policy all
Speaker 1: right back to what we were. Just TALKING about what
Speaker 1: i can see and understand is reductively said simply. Playing more,
Speaker 1: basketball and, certainly you know if you're a player where
Speaker 1: basketball is not part, of your future and, if we're
Speaker 1: honest most of the players that are moving on probably
Speaker 1: have played or if they Go To This college, basketball
Speaker 1: crown thing will play their final game AS a player
Speaker 1: i would want. To Play Now the josh eilert side
Speaker 1: of this is interesting because there are a lot of
Speaker 1: things To Like. About josh eilert as an Assistant Coach,
Speaker 1: for alex jensen he Played In, the big twelve He
Speaker 1: Coached for west virginia for seventeen years as an Assistant,
Speaker 1: to coach huggins and then obviously it's been here for
Speaker 1: the past. Couple of years So Understands the big twelve
Speaker 1: And If, you're alex jensen is that something that's.
Speaker 2: Appealing to You If, you're.
Speaker 1: Josh eiler do you want another game where you can
Speaker 1: show people that you are?
Speaker 2: A good coach that.
Speaker 1: SHOULD be considered i mean you kind of Feel bad
Speaker 1: for josh as he was the interim Head Coach in
Speaker 1: west virginia and that didn't, work out great and then
Speaker 1: he just took over a SITUATION here where i don't
Speaker 1: know what he was.
Speaker 2: Supposed to do it.
Speaker 1: Reminded me A Lot when mike pijakian Took Over for
Speaker 1: andy ludwig during. The Football season when utah Fired Coach
Speaker 1: lud mike, pijakian Took over and mike himself during his
Speaker 1: first media availability told all, of us Like this is
Speaker 1: andy's system and THERE'S nothing that i really can. Do
Speaker 1: with this we're Just gonna, run andy's system which, makes
Speaker 1: you wonder like why do you? Fire, the guy anyway
Speaker 1: but whatever. Done is done And as coach, eyler took over,
Speaker 1: And You know sean mooney was some. Good, insight here
Speaker 1: uh they more or less ran kind of. The same
Speaker 1: sets The Difference was Kanu Dawes and miro little, Got
Speaker 1: more time so there were, some rotational adjustments but there
Speaker 1: weren't really, any schematic adjustments and so you kind of
Speaker 1: Feel bad for josh that he was put, in this
Speaker 1: situation which really was. A lose lose i don't know
Speaker 1: what he was, supposed to. Do all right staying with
Speaker 1: this tame. A little bit with the four o'clock out,
Speaker 1: of the show we're Gonna Bring in sarah Todd Covers
Speaker 1: the utah Jazz For.
Speaker 2: The deseret.
Speaker 1: News Breaking news the jazz have been fined one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for violating the league's.
Speaker 2: Player Participation policy.
Speaker 1: Pablo master when he stops, by later on we'll DO
Speaker 1: a little rsl midweek training sessions underway for the match
Speaker 1: Coming up On. Saturday at houston We'll see if pablo
Speaker 1: has any insight on reinforcements badly needed on the Way For.
Speaker 1: Real Salt lake kurt schmidt joined the, program this week
Speaker 1: indicated they're working on a number. Of different things we'll
Speaker 1: see if pablos, some insight there even though it's not,
Speaker 1: necessary his job but a little. BIT of insight i
Speaker 1: thought this was interesting porter take thirty seconds and say something.
Speaker 4: Very, Very fascinating well i'm gonna update you a little
Speaker 4: bit on goings On. With the jazz that one hundred
Speaker 4: Thousand dollars fine shams is expanding on that it is
Speaker 4: Specifically related to lowry Markten and The jazz. Holding lowry
Speaker 4: out and what, that tells ME not that i know
Speaker 4: or have any insight you'll be able, to expand here
Speaker 4: IS that the nba must have found a inconsistency in
Speaker 4: communication in one of, the injury reports in something there
Speaker 4: that gave them the excuse To give the. Jazz the
Speaker 4: fine they Know. They're resting lowry everyone Knows. They're resting
Speaker 4: lowry everyone around the league is resting players in a certain.
Speaker 4: Form of fashion but if you move them to the
Speaker 4: injury REPORT without, like i, guess an excuse or you
Speaker 4: just kind of throw, them up there you're you kind
Speaker 4: of lose your storyline as far as. Resting THE player
Speaker 4: the nba is gonna come down on. You for it
Speaker 4: and it kind of appears that's probably what Happened here
Speaker 4: with lowry missing better part.
Speaker 1: Of this, Month, ALL right man i was doing so
Speaker 1: well after the past couple OF days where i was
Speaker 1: limping to. THE finish line i made it nearly two
Speaker 1: hours without having a little bit of. An issue here
Speaker 1: we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Make it through we're. Gonna be okay the four o'clock
Speaker 2: hour right.
Speaker 1: Around the corner but before we, catch a break SOME
Speaker 1: interesting insight i thought on the Process That led alex
Speaker 1: jensen here back home to be the seventeenth Head coach
Speaker 1: in utah. Men's, basketball history so According to what i've
Speaker 1: been told, last time around so five, Years Ago now
Speaker 1: mark carlin alects to Move On, from larry kriskovak a
Speaker 1: decision that wasn't super popular. In certain circles i'll kind of,
Speaker 1: leave that there but.
Speaker 2: YOU get, IT i Mean. I like larry i.
Speaker 1: Always liked him he was, good to me he was,
Speaker 1: a great guest and when he went out, of in
Speaker 1: Fact let's. Get larry on Reach. Out to larry let's
Speaker 1: have him on because he is a fun. Guy to
Speaker 1: interview he's, a nice guy and there was an argument
Speaker 1: to be made that he he actually was. Showing, some
Speaker 1: progress nonetheless the decision was made to Move On. From,
Speaker 1: larry KOSKOVIAK well what i was told over the past
Speaker 1: forty eight hours is. Five Years ago mark carlin did
Speaker 1: make Some Overtures to alex jensen before He Landed.
Speaker 2: ON craig smith i have no insight on how far.
Speaker 1: THESE talks went i have no insight on how close
Speaker 1: it was Back then for alex to, take the job
Speaker 1: or if a offer was ever formally.
Speaker 2: EXTENDED to him i don't. KNOW those details i want to. Be.
Speaker 1: VERY clear now a couple of things here that make
Speaker 1: this go around different than. Five years, ago number one,
Speaker 1: Five Years ago alex jensen was the Lead Assistant for
Speaker 1: quinn snyder Here in sau Lake For.
Speaker 2: The utah jazz.
Speaker 1: Alex was being paid very well as, a lead assistant
Speaker 1: a number one ASSISTANT. In The nba the jazz had
Speaker 1: a really good team that was right, in the mixed
Speaker 1: right in the Midst Of, The, Gobert, mitchell conley, bogdanovitch
Speaker 1: you know that team that won a lot of regular
Speaker 1: season games but never was really able to get much done.
Speaker 2: In the postseason but it was. A good team it
Speaker 2: was a team that.
Speaker 1: Most people, thought all right if things, go their way
Speaker 1: if they Get a steph curry, sprained Ankle Here or
Speaker 1: lebron james low, ad management there maybe this team is
Speaker 1: good enough to. Win something special. I'LL be honest i
Speaker 1: never was. THERE with them i loved That iteration. OF
Speaker 1: jazz basketball i was with the flagship Station of the jazz.
Speaker 1: DURING that run i got to, KNOW the coaches i
Speaker 1: got to know, THE front office i got to, know
Speaker 1: THE players and i was a big fan of what
Speaker 1: they were doing and what. THEY were building i just
Speaker 1: didn't think they, had, the force physicality the defensive perimeter
Speaker 1: size to match up with some of the best teams.
Speaker 1: AS they, Advanced i mean donovan, Six' to two mike conley's.
Speaker 1: Six feet six' one their Best perimeter, defensive player was
Speaker 1: royce O'Neil who's six' to, four On a good day
Speaker 1: right and royce. Was a fine perimeter defensive player. He
Speaker 1: WASN'T anything all that special so i never thought that.
Speaker 1: They WERE gonna win a championship but i thought they
Speaker 1: were as Close as We've had PROBABLY since.
Speaker 2: JOHN and carl and i believe i.
Speaker 1: KNOW other people disagree With this i think the team
Speaker 1: Quinn Had at their peak With goberton mitchell as the
Speaker 1: lynch Pins were better Than the teams Jerry.
Speaker 2: Had with boozer.
Speaker 1: And d will that's my Opinion That team, went to
Speaker 1: a western conference finals but revision His history a little
Speaker 1: bit remember dallas The number one seed in the West
Speaker 1: That year with A Peak, dirk nooviski Ran Into golden
Speaker 1: state Coached by Don nelson who drafted dirk And, don
Speaker 1: Knew How to guard dirk and golden state did An.
Speaker 1: Amazing job of shutting down navitsky They Were, able to
Speaker 1: Upset the dallas mavericks and the jazz were pretty fortunate
Speaker 1: to run, into Them, in the second. Round not dallas
Speaker 1: nonetheless Credit Them they went to the western.
Speaker 2: Conference FINALS where They.
Speaker 1: Got, smoked but i Think quinn's, TEAM like the peak
Speaker 1: quinn team I think that Beats the peak Jerry.
Speaker 2: Team with booze.
Speaker 1: And D will that's my opinion but alex was, the
Speaker 1: lead assistant on that team and it wasn't just that
Speaker 1: he was. The lead assistant for that team he was
Speaker 1: a hot commodity in THE world of potentially. Getting an
Speaker 1: nba head Coaching job HE interviewed with the calvs back
Speaker 1: i think it was twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: TO take over their head job I.
Speaker 8: Think.
Speaker 1: They gave that to jb bickerstaff and so there was
Speaker 1: A lot going on then with alex, that isn't going
Speaker 1: on now right and so that. Needs TO be kept
Speaker 1: in mind but i was also told During the process
Speaker 1: five years ago alex wasn't necessarily, keen on the offer
Speaker 1: or Whatever or the, situation IS how i'll put that
Speaker 1: because i don't know, that there was an offer made
Speaker 1: but the conversation. Stalled pretty quickly, five years ago so,
Speaker 1: This time around five years later mark makes The.
Speaker 2: Decision to move, on, from craig what's.
Speaker 1: Different Now, well A Few things number one after quinn
Speaker 1: snyder decided that he didn't see any way forward here
Speaker 1: and didn't want to, Work for this new ownership group
Speaker 1: alex had. ONE year left on His deal i don't
Speaker 1: think will Hardy Was ever, going To keep alex jensen
Speaker 1: around but alex coached out the rest of his contract
Speaker 1: And spent one year under will Right, and Then He
Speaker 1: lands in dallas where Dennis lindsay at the Time was
Speaker 1: dennis is now in detroit Doing. A Great job with
Speaker 1: the Pistons so dennis Goes Down to Dallas And ultimately
Speaker 1: jason kidd brings alex jensen on board.
Speaker 2: As one of, His assistant coaches.
Speaker 1: Three years later alex IS not, interviewed for a head
Speaker 1: mba job and you Have to wonder whether or not,
Speaker 1: alex DID the calculation to say if i ever, want
Speaker 1: to be a head coach this. Is, GOING to be
Speaker 1: my opportunity also i don't know what the Terms, of
Speaker 1: the deal are for Alex but my guess, IS if
Speaker 1: Craig got five years i. Bet alex gets five or
Speaker 1: six alex has, a lovely wife and young, children AND
Speaker 1: they're all from here and i Think the stability is
Speaker 1: something that alex certainly was looking at because he was
Speaker 1: coming up on The. End of his contract in DALLAS
Speaker 1: but the most interesting anecdote i was told about the
Speaker 1: Process this Time around is as alex and mark engaged,
Speaker 1: In conversations and. Back and forth alex was undecided I'm.
Speaker 1: Told that they Really love dallas i'm. Told that dallas
Speaker 1: Really loved Him i'm told, the Dallas wanted alex, to
Speaker 1: stay and Alex was conflicted, According to what i've been
Speaker 1: told and It Was one phone call that alex. Jensen,
Speaker 1: made that eased his concerns porter do you have any
Speaker 1: guesses who the phone call Was Made to that ultimately
Speaker 1: led alex jensen to taking the job As the head coach.
Speaker 1: Of the utah men's basketball Program Spence. Checkets it was
Speaker 1: not SPENCE jackets he tried to. CALL i was DOING
Speaker 1: the show i told him i hit him. Back later
Speaker 1: never called him.
Speaker 4: Back man put me on the. Spot again twice. In
Speaker 4: one segment you're doing.
Speaker 1: This you've, been doing the show long ENOUGH you. Know
Speaker 1: that that's what i do i've JUST the Big dogs
Speaker 1: at the u who alex could. Have called to alleviate
Speaker 1: any CONCERNS and you're overthinking it when I tell You,
Speaker 1: WHO it is.
Speaker 4: Coach wit okay i was told that that's probably the
Speaker 4: guy you reach out to when you and. Not like
Speaker 4: when we're talking, sports i'm talking about you know a
Speaker 4: guy who. Is working within the athletic department you know
Speaker 4: those are the people he's gonna be working on.
Speaker 2: The hill with day to.
Speaker 4: Day no one's. Been there longer i'm pretty sure i'm
Speaker 4: almost positive no one's been there longer than what nineteen,
Speaker 4: ninety two.
Speaker 3: Or three.
Speaker 1: Ninety four maybe thereabouts but it makes sense when you.
Speaker 1: Think about it through this prism alex doesn't know What.
Speaker 1: It's like to work for mark alex doesn't know What It's.
Speaker 1: Like to work for taylor randall alex doesn't know what
Speaker 1: it's like to be Part Of the new iteration of
Speaker 1: utah athletics BECAUSE last time he was. Here I was
Speaker 1: in the nineties so i just thought that was kind
Speaker 1: of interesting, as he was weighing his. Options because this
Speaker 1: was a choice, This was not a no brainer this wasn't,
Speaker 1: something that was made right.
Speaker 2: Away a decision that was made this is. Something we Definitely.
Speaker 1: Want to do alex and natalie i'm sure they, Waited
Speaker 1: A bunch of different options but i thought it was
Speaker 1: interesting being told that The phone call that really put
Speaker 1: Alex over the Line Was, to kyle was to kyle
Speaker 1: winningham and they spent a number of number of hours
Speaker 1: on the phone together talking, about a bunch Of different things,
Speaker 1: according to what i've been told And that was enough
Speaker 1: to convince alex that he did want to Come. Back home,
Speaker 1: to coach the. Utes All right there you go utah.
Speaker 1: Jazz are back in action Tonight They. Are taking on
Speaker 1: the memphis grizzlies that is. A six o'clock mountain time
Speaker 1: Starts Our next guest covers the utah jazz and does
Speaker 1: it so well that.
Speaker 2: All she does.
Speaker 1: Is stack Trophies No Big deal two Time utah Sports
Speaker 1: Writer Of The, Year From the desert Red news. Sarah,
Speaker 1: Todd On. A wednesday afternoon. Sarah happy wednesday, How, are
Speaker 1: you i'm doing?
Speaker 9: GREAT svince, How are you doing i mean i'm Doing
Speaker 9: Better than. The, wall, of bryan smith today yes.
Speaker 2: Indeed why don't, We.
Speaker 1: Start With The breaking news sarah the utah jazz have.
Speaker 1: Been fined one hundred thousand dollars it looks Like. It's
Speaker 1: for sitting lowry against washington? Do, YOU have any insight here.
Speaker 9: Yeah i mean what's interesting is that the press release
Speaker 9: that comes out today it says that they Violated the
Speaker 9: player Participation policy on march fifth against washington quote, as
Speaker 9: well as, other recent. Games which is like not surprising
Speaker 9: i've been wondering, over the last couple of weeks like
Speaker 9: one of when one of these signs was Going, to,
Speaker 9: COME down, for the jazz because i mean They're Resting
Speaker 9: twenty three year, old walker kessler every other game and
Speaker 9: they've been using the. Injury report very liberally this season,
Speaker 9: So it's, FRANKLY not a surprise And honestly i think
Speaker 9: that the jazz and everyone involved would willingly pay one
Speaker 9: hundred thousand dollars to know that they're going to be
Speaker 9: one of the three worst, teams in the league this
Speaker 9: year so kind, OF non consequential in.
Speaker 1: THE end i concur with that i will follow up
Speaker 1: to ask if you haven't knowledge as to how exactly
Speaker 1: they land on when, They're, GOING to implement these fines sarah,
Speaker 1: i watch pro basketball every night and, Every night teams
Speaker 1: Are sitting players like why?
Speaker 2: The, jazz and why right now.
Speaker 9: YEAH it's really really interesting. BECAUSE i don't know exactly
Speaker 9: when i mean a lot of it Has to do
Speaker 9: with like all star star level players and whether or not.
Speaker 9: They're resting during, nationally Televised games that being, said THE
Speaker 9: jazz don't. HAVE those so i don't know. I don't
Speaker 9: know when they decide, it would be, really really easy
Speaker 9: as you've mentioned to go through and look at teams
Speaker 9: resting healthy players and find. A lot more than. THEY do,
Speaker 9: and so it's strange i mean they have a player,
Speaker 9: partition participation policy, that like, outline teams have to you
Speaker 9: know make sure that no more than one star. Is
Speaker 9: unavailable for the same, game and then there's you know
Speaker 9: the way that they define star depends on like years
Speaker 9: of Service and, if they've. Made all star teams et
Speaker 9: cetera and THEN also if it's a national tv game.
Speaker 9: Or an in season tournament game they have to maintain
Speaker 9: a balance between resting the players, for road and for
Speaker 9: home games and so This might be a case where
Speaker 9: lowry had missed more road games. At that point than
Speaker 9: home games. I'm not one hundred percent sure it'd have to,
Speaker 9: go back and look at it but. That would be,
Speaker 9: MY first guess other than that i think that, probably there's,
Speaker 9: someone that's just. Like all, Right this is enough.
Speaker 1: YOU know i'm Chuckling here because i have my twitter
Speaker 1: feed pulled Up and you can see the Shams tweet
Speaker 1: breaking the news the JAZZ, have been fined a hundred
Speaker 1: k and then, a Couple of tweets after that the
Speaker 1: jazz tweet, Out After updated, Injury Report available, Jordan Clarkson.
Speaker 1: Available lowry Marketing available jaden? Springer are the jazz trolling
Speaker 1: us or is this? Directly In response to the? Fine,
Speaker 1: now marketing is playing tonight.
Speaker 9: Oh this is in their defense this is about the
Speaker 9: time that the injury report would. Come OUT tonight before
Speaker 9: the game so i, don't think that that's direct trolling
Speaker 9: but there might, there is some HUMOR to it at
Speaker 9: least BECAUSE i saw the same, thing I got the
Speaker 9: injury report and i thought the. Timing of, This, Is
Speaker 9: pretty incredible.
Speaker 1: All right sarah before we get back To The, CURRENT
Speaker 1: state of the utah jazz i need to, pick, your
Speaker 1: brain a little bit, because if memory serves me correctly
Speaker 1: you were part of, The. Traveling, party five years, ago
Speaker 1: jazz okase when you know The whole thing, went down
Speaker 1: and rudy test positive they cancel the game and then
Speaker 1: we Get the alert that they can't so the season you,
Speaker 1: were part?
Speaker 5: OF that?
Speaker 2: TRAVELING party weren't, you i, Was. I was there all
Speaker 2: right sah so five, years later to the? Day yesterday
Speaker 2: what are your memories what? DO you remember about that
Speaker 2: night i think our listeners would. Be, INTERESTED to hear
Speaker 2: your perspective.
Speaker 9: Yeah i was talking about this yesterday with my fiance
Speaker 9: and just it's a really it's strange the things that
Speaker 9: stand out the most to me now compared. TO when
Speaker 9: it was all happening i think that when it was happening,
Speaker 9: and in the thick of it, it was, very LIKE
Speaker 9: work based jazz based and i was just THINKING about
Speaker 9: All Things basketball And Nba. And rudy gobert AND donovan mitchell,
Speaker 9: and now when i look back my mother at the
Speaker 9: time was supposed to be flying out to visit me
Speaker 9: the next day When, we WERE coming back to utah
Speaker 9: and i was already, feeling a, little bit wary because
Speaker 9: you know the old the only thing at the time
Speaker 9: that we knew was, just that like people were dying and.
Speaker 9: Especially older people were just Dying and when we, learned
Speaker 9: that rudy, had tested positive and you know they defined what,
Speaker 9: close contact meant and it's like have you been speaking
Speaker 9: to this person longer than five minutes? Standing within five feet, of,
Speaker 9: him and we were like oh you're. Just describing. What
Speaker 9: our Job is so yes and so i'm kind of
Speaker 9: in the, tunnels of the arena and okay see there's
Speaker 9: people and has that suits That are Walking by, from
Speaker 9: the department of health team, like Heading into the locker
Speaker 9: room and i'm on the phone With my mom telling
Speaker 9: her that i'm going to, cancel, Her flight and she's
Speaker 9: like well i'll still. Come If you want me to and,
Speaker 9: i'm like crying ON the phone telling her like i
Speaker 9: don't want to. Be the person that Kills You and
Speaker 9: it's just and tony jones was there and he Was
Speaker 9: just like hugging me while i'm crying, on the phone
Speaker 9: WITH my mom telling her that i don't want to.
Speaker 9: Be the person that killed her and that's like the
Speaker 9: most enduring memory for me is just having to be
Speaker 9: comforted in a moment where there was so much uncertainty
Speaker 9: and we. Really, didn't know what.
Speaker 2: Was happening, man that is wild so again my memory
Speaker 2: Is a little.
Speaker 1: Bit foggy Because i'm getting old but the jazz, didn't
Speaker 1: THEY fly you, guys home, if i remember correctly you
Speaker 1: know as you guys, were kind of figuring things out
Speaker 1: didn't it didn't they find a?
Speaker 9: Way, To GET you guys, home yeah, because i mean
Speaker 9: so you know we tested with the rest of the
Speaker 9: jazz staff and traveling party, in the locker room that
Speaker 9: night and we were told that we would have to
Speaker 9: quarantine for up to two weeks after our last, interaction
Speaker 9: with someone who tested positive which the next morning we
Speaker 9: find out the fourteen days started that night because Even
Speaker 9: though we hadn't been around, Rudy for a. Couple of
Speaker 9: days donovan tested positive and, we're all sitting there that night,
Speaker 9: hanging Out waiting to. Be tested and, donsan Was there But,
Speaker 9: The yeah, the, department of health we're like, yeah you
Speaker 9: guys can't fly, commercially, and so we were like okay
Speaker 9: well how? Are we, supposed To get home and. Yeah
Speaker 9: the jazz were incredibly gracious i'll forever'd be Grateful for
Speaker 9: Them putting me and andy and tony on their. Chartered
Speaker 9: flight home the next day and so we were there
Speaker 9: with the team and The Hangar at the airport when
Speaker 9: angela dunn was kind of explaining what the next two
Speaker 9: weeks would be like and fielding our questions and trying
Speaker 9: to make us all feel at. Least, a, little bit
Speaker 9: more comfortable, so Yeah the three of us the beat
Speaker 9: reporters were there.
Speaker 2: With the team through it all i'm sure they Were
Speaker 2: happy to allow, you AND tony to fly home but
Speaker 2: i guarantee there was a healthy debate about whether Or
Speaker 2: not they wanted. TO let andy on the plane.
Speaker 9: I think that there was a healthy debate to. Not
Speaker 9: let anyone. On the plane at. THAT point, everyone was
Speaker 9: so confused i mean they were having trouble getting a
Speaker 9: chartered flight because pilots and, flight, attendants were just being
Speaker 9: like no we don't want to fly these people if
Speaker 9: they're like, they're, because they're being told like well all
Speaker 9: of these people. That will be, on the flight all
Speaker 9: tested negative but the incubation period for the virus, could
Speaker 9: be up to two. Weeks so there is some risk
Speaker 9: and so like they were just being told no left
Speaker 9: and right by pilots until they finally. Got one, FOR
Speaker 9: the next day and so i mean there were number
Speaker 9: a number Of people that worked for the jazz, that, Were,
Speaker 9: trying to figure out like okay, how if we rent
Speaker 9: a car how long is it going To Take? To
Speaker 9: drive home from oklahoma city like there were it. Was
Speaker 9: ALL up in the air, so i think that number
Speaker 9: one they would have they, could, have very easily been like.
Speaker 9: No figure out your own stuff and number two they
Speaker 9: could have they by the time that they actually got
Speaker 9: a flight and a pilot, that was willing to do
Speaker 9: this they were, like whatever everybody on hmm?
Speaker 2: Man that is that Is wow what was there any.
Speaker 1: Was, there any instant or you know immediate indicator that
Speaker 1: this situation was going to throw a big time Monkey
Speaker 1: wrench In. The, RELATIONSHIP between gobert, AND mitchell.
Speaker 9: No i don't think. I mean NOT like that night
Speaker 9: i mean i know that there. Were there were tweets
Speaker 9: that night I'm pretty sure from like, from, woes That
Speaker 9: were indicating that uh that rudy had been a little
Speaker 9: Flippant about the. Situation and that donovan wasn't happy, but h,
Speaker 9: that was also like you know those tweets also felt
Speaker 9: like they, were coming from one sided sources and so
Speaker 9: it was like you. DIDN'T really, know what to believe
Speaker 9: i mean there was NO indication at that point that
Speaker 9: i felt like there was going to be the blow.
Speaker 9: Up between them that there was I'm also really really
Speaker 9: appreciative seeing donovan's comments more recently and also talking to
Speaker 9: him in the years that followed about how he looked, back,
Speaker 9: on the, situation as like yeah of course, like looking
Speaker 9: back on IT now like we know that I could
Speaker 9: have given it, to rudy and that you know, we
Speaker 9: didn't know how, things worked and he, WAS like but
Speaker 9: in the moment, i was just so pissed off and
Speaker 9: like there was a little bit of, tension between THEM
Speaker 9: to start with and so i think that was just
Speaker 9: like it was like, Putting a, match just on gasoline.
Speaker 1: All right, there's no way of knowing this but kind
Speaker 1: Of a fun, hypothetical exercise because i've, ALWAYS said and
Speaker 1: we'll always SAY covid forever changed that, team covid forever
Speaker 1: changed that group and there's AN argument to be made
Speaker 1: that covid directly ended it Quite frankly. Based off of
Speaker 1: the freid relationships And It was the summer of, george
Speaker 1: Floyd and emotions were high and donovan Started kind of
Speaker 1: leaning into and i've. Never, had any issue With It donovan,
Speaker 1: as a young african american male just started caring about
Speaker 1: issues that may have, changed his desire, To live here which.
Speaker 1: Is FINE it's totally his right and i Think some
Speaker 1: of the reaction to donovan being front facing about his,
Speaker 1: opinions Was pretty. Embarrassing around here if I'm honest But
Speaker 1: the relationship Between gobert and mitchell and then donovan clearly,
Speaker 1: not wanting to live here anymore and part of me
Speaker 1: will always wonder if there was, any meat Left on
Speaker 1: that bone or did.
Speaker 2: Danny tear it all down.
Speaker 1: Pretty quickly, A little bit prematurely who knows, but we
Speaker 1: are where we are so, as somebody who covered that
Speaker 1: team a team that was winning in a regular season
Speaker 1: setting in a way that we hadn't, seen here in
Speaker 1: a long time and one of the best Regular Season
Speaker 1: teams in the entire western conference. OVER the course of
Speaker 1: five years i think they won more regular season games
Speaker 1: than any team, over THE course, of five years if
Speaker 1: i remember but the playoff stuff. Never fully WORKED out
Speaker 1: for him but, IF covid doesn't interrupt that, path i
Speaker 1: guess for that?
Speaker 2: Group, What, do you think happened sarah.
Speaker 9: YEAH it's interesting to know because i think also a little,
Speaker 9: piece that we have, to consider which like NUMBER one
Speaker 9: like we, can't, put covid in a vacuum right like
Speaker 9: it happened concurrently. With a bunch of other stuff, but
Speaker 9: we also HAVE to consider like how did COVID change
Speaker 9: the landscape of the nba for the next year and A? Half, As,
Speaker 9: well as the. Jazz RIGHT like we, don't know if
Speaker 9: Covid doesn't happen maybe do the jazz are they able
Speaker 9: to do something else that? They didn't do during, free agency,
Speaker 9: because like free agency the draft all of that that
Speaker 9: next year were really, really late and really really weird
Speaker 9: and you Know that Led To, like the jazz getting
Speaker 9: derek favors who was really at the tail end of
Speaker 9: his career at that point and had to pay the,
Speaker 9: full mid level exception for it. And then, getting off
Speaker 9: that deal you know creates a situation where right now
Speaker 9: we're in we're we're still, seeing the side effects of
Speaker 9: that WHICH is the protections On the okc pick that
Speaker 9: the jazz are trying to avoid not dealing with by
Speaker 9: tanking and, Trying to get a high pick and that
Speaker 9: includes what's going to happen next season because, That pick
Speaker 9: is still hanging around, and so that's, all tied together
Speaker 9: and it's like would there have been better options ON
Speaker 9: the free agent, Market, head COVID not HAVE happened like
Speaker 9: would i know nba wheelers and dealers have, met differently,
Speaker 9: and had more conversations and like could they have added
Speaker 9: something different to that roster That Might have helped them
Speaker 9: in los angeles when it felt like they were just
Speaker 9: right there but couldn't get over, the hump at the
Speaker 9: same time, like Injuries and stuff that year like Donovan's ankle,
Speaker 9: Injury going into that clippers series like we don't know
Speaker 9: how injuries were impacted by like the start and stop
Speaker 9: and resetting and shortened season and weird SCHEDULES because of what,
Speaker 9: HAPPENED after covid and so like i think it's all
Speaker 9: all mixed in together and all of that to say
Speaker 9: that When it ended and when The jazz blew Things
Speaker 9: up And quinn left. AND donovan and rudy were, traded
Speaker 9: i think at that point like everyone including myself that were, close,
Speaker 9: to the team. Was like yeah this is when of course,
Speaker 9: there's no way to fix this and so there's always
Speaker 9: going to be questions of like what could happened and
Speaker 9: how Things ended up and how much covid, impacted that or,
Speaker 9: if there was like you. Said meat left on the
Speaker 9: bone but it really really, felt at The end. OF it,
Speaker 9: AFTER that mavericks series i mean i didn't even feel
Speaker 9: any sort of excitement or anything after that, last year
Speaker 9: that they Were. Together going out against, the, mavericks it was.
Speaker 9: Just like yeah this is over it's been.
Speaker 8: Over.
Speaker 2: For More than a year yeah even locke During, the
Speaker 2: Final Game, against The MAVs even david locke even david locke.
Speaker 2: That This feels like, a funeral if locke is, saying
Speaker 2: it feels like a.
Speaker 1: Funeral everybody, Died two years ago you know like when
Speaker 1: when the people that are employed by the team to
Speaker 1: propagate the message they pay him, to propagate cannot do it,
Speaker 1: anymore that has TO say.
Speaker 7: Something, You know what i mean yeah and that's how
Speaker 7: it felt, it felt.
Speaker 9: Just SO anti climactic like It was, i think after
Speaker 9: the clippers series like everybody knew, That it wasn't going
Speaker 9: to work but, that's the moment when everybody thought maybe
Speaker 9: there's just a little, bit meat left on the. Bone
Speaker 9: like let's, try it again please feel like. Let's do
Speaker 9: it one more time and so that's why It felt,
Speaker 9: so bad after the maverick series because everybody knew a
Speaker 9: year before, That, it was over all.
Speaker 1: Right sarah moving, over to the here and, now you
Speaker 1: wrote a really good Yet Really depressing piece About The
Speaker 1: utah jazz stated the utah. Jazz rebuild a timeline for
Speaker 1: contention so let's just start from? The thirty one thousand
Speaker 1: foot view? What motivated you to write it. Then UNPACK
Speaker 1: it a little bit then. I, HAVE some specific.
Speaker 2: Stask, you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, i was just thinking you know like the, thirty
Speaker 9: thousand foot view is like what's. My job as a
Speaker 9: beat writer it's my job to be the eyes ears
Speaker 9: and the voice for the fans right in the places
Speaker 9: that they, Can't have Eyes ears, and voice AND so
Speaker 9: i'm thinking what do i Need to tell them about
Speaker 9: what i'm seeing. Before we head into the draft the
Speaker 9: lottery even and the off season, or the beginning of
Speaker 9: next season because this season we. Already know what the story,
Speaker 9: is and, so, FROM that perspective it's Like Well i
Speaker 9: kind of have it's i'm obligated To tell, them, that
Speaker 9: from what i'm hearing like this is not The, end
Speaker 9: of tanking for the jazz and so don't expect for
Speaker 9: things to get. Cheery and, start winning, next season.
Speaker 2: And ultimately you know as much as it is painful
Speaker 2: to hear the dirty little secret is it's. Probably the
Speaker 2: right course of? Action?
Speaker 5: Do?
Speaker 9: You AGREE with that right YEAH and i think there
Speaker 9: and I think, there's people, within the, jazz organization you
Speaker 9: know decision makers people on different sides, of different staff
Speaker 9: that number one they think we got to be bad
Speaker 9: next year because we have. This pick that's top eight
Speaker 9: protected we. Don't, want it going, to Okay See and
Speaker 9: you know, the cooper flag draft is Fine and Like
Speaker 9: If we get cooper or dylan harper or whatever it
Speaker 9: may be. In this draft will be great but the
Speaker 9: twenty twenty, six draft is also absolutely. Stacked and ESPECIALLY
Speaker 9: at the top and, so i think that you know
Speaker 9: when you have a top eight protected pick and you're
Speaker 9: looking at both of, these you, think we'll you know
Speaker 9: No one no one within, the, jazz organization is thinking
Speaker 9: Like Oh our Foundational Core Is Keyante george, and isaiah collier.
Speaker 9: Like i'm sorry they're just not and so when you're looking,
Speaker 9: at what, could be, A Core we're Like you Know
Speaker 9: Cooper flag and deck. And darren peterson sounds pretty good
Speaker 9: and so that's, what they're looking at as like what
Speaker 9: are the, Big pieces that we could get and they
Speaker 9: are holding space for a world in which that could
Speaker 9: still include lowry market in but. There's a chance that
Speaker 9: it doesn't and so all of that is being decided
Speaker 9: and kind of. Being worked through in real time.
Speaker 1: So let's have a little fun Let's operate off hypothetical
Speaker 1: that the jazz luck into One This. Year and they
Speaker 1: get cooper flag how does that color. THEIR perspective on
Speaker 1: approaching next season.
Speaker 9: I think the immediate aftermass of getting the number one
Speaker 9: pick in the draft lottery is, serving the landscape and,
Speaker 9: seeing like are there any huge huge, moves TO be
Speaker 9: made this summer because i think that's the only thing
Speaker 9: that Could happen that could stop. The jazz, from tanking
Speaker 9: next Season, it's like If, they get Cooper. They, have
Speaker 9: Lowry They have walker okay is devin Booker going to
Speaker 9: ask out of phoenix? Because things are Getting so bad
Speaker 9: there are the celtics gonna have to blow things up
Speaker 9: and not gonna be able to pay for their roster
Speaker 9: and someone becomes available. There just those are two examples
Speaker 9: but like, big, name guys across the league like is
Speaker 9: there anything that could be done or anything that could
Speaker 9: be manufactured out of the chaos that's happening. Across, the
Speaker 9: rest of the league now if that does not happen
Speaker 9: and they're not able to get like, the big name
Speaker 9: guy this offseason Then what happens is. That the jazz
Speaker 9: tank next season and from there you have To Decide, Can,
Speaker 9: We tank With Cooper flag lowry markin. And walker kessler
Speaker 9: on The roster now we've seen the jazz do some.
Speaker 9: Incredible injury report managing this season it's a little different
Speaker 9: if one of your really good players is a rookie
Speaker 9: and you're trying, To act like he can't play so.
Speaker 9: That gets a little Bit Difficult there's a chance that
Speaker 9: cooper flagg comes into the league and hey has learning curves,
Speaker 9: like every other rookie usually does and you can still.
Speaker 9: Tank WITH him on the roster but i think that
Speaker 9: does open. The door a little bit too we might
Speaker 9: be too, good to tank with those guys so we Might.
Speaker 9: Have to look, at trading, lowry.
Speaker 1: So What happens best guess if lady Luck does not
Speaker 1: shine on the jazz and let's say they even fall
Speaker 1: out of the top five or six, and end, up
Speaker 1: With A player You, know like jeremiah fears from oklahoma
Speaker 1: they don't get one of, the top five or six,
Speaker 1: players like, worst case scenario happens they lose but they
Speaker 1: fall out of this top three or four area, where
Speaker 1: apparently generational pieces are available and they march into, next season,
Speaker 1: with An Unknown rookie you. Know a trey johnson or,
Speaker 1: something he's a pretty good player but they don't. Get
Speaker 1: one of these generational pieces how? DOES that, COLOR their
Speaker 1: approach year.
Speaker 9: I mean i think that that just makes it even
Speaker 9: more important that they get one of the, top three
Speaker 9: picks again next season right like. That's already the goal
Speaker 9: right now and, if the worst case, scenario happens then
Speaker 9: they don't get frankly a top two pick out of
Speaker 9: this out, OF the twenty twenty five draft i think
Speaker 9: it makes it all the more important to get a
Speaker 9: top two pick, in the, twenty twenty six draft and.
Speaker 5: Man that.
Speaker 9: Would be that would, BE bad but at that point
Speaker 9: i think you're you're looking at all scenarios because you
Speaker 9: have to. Get back something really really good since you
Speaker 9: didn't get a top, five pick in twenty twenty five
Speaker 9: that might even make a lowery trade more probable, because
Speaker 9: they'd be looking at like we really have to have
Speaker 9: something that's going to. Last us the next, ten years
Speaker 9: and so it's yeah there's a lot of plates that
Speaker 9: are spinning. THAT and lottery Night coming up i think
Speaker 9: it's may twelfth this year is a really really. Really
Speaker 9: IMPORTANT night for the, jazz.
Speaker 1: Before i say you loose what sort of sense, are
Speaker 1: you getting, from this community. From this, market from jazz
Speaker 1: fans you know we HAVE data, as far as local
Speaker 1: TV ratings and the. Jazz local tv ratings have tanked
Speaker 1: they're the fourth lowest from the bottom as far as
Speaker 1: the gap. From one YEAR to the next so the tv.
Speaker 1: Audience isn't what it, once was From my vantage point,
Speaker 1: every time i'm at. A game the crowd is good
Speaker 1: but what sort of sense Are you getting from jazz
Speaker 1: fans if they're in for this again. Next year and
Speaker 1: maybe even beyond what sort Of pain tolerance, Do, you
Speaker 1: think jazz Fans have.
Speaker 9: Yeah the sense that i'm getting is that the tank.
Speaker 9: FATIGUE is starting to set in i think that it
Speaker 9: probably split down The, MIDDLE on fans saying that okay
Speaker 9: i can, do this for one more year and, THEN
Speaker 9: there's fans that are like i. Can't do this, one
Speaker 9: more year like you Said In, the building at the
Speaker 9: delta center. THE crowd is really really IMPRESSIVE i mean
Speaker 9: it's something that i don't see around, the league for
Speaker 9: other rebuilding teams like fans Don't show up the way,
Speaker 9: that jazz fans do. In person and that's really impressive but.
Speaker 9: That's just one building of people and so, LIKE the
Speaker 9: larger jazz fan audience, i THINK is feeling really restless
Speaker 9: and i in large part because they haven't had to
Speaker 9: go through this for such a. Long period of time
Speaker 9: like that it's been so long since they've, had to
Speaker 9: go through losing seasons and the losing season didn't drag
Speaker 9: out as, long as it did like this and, It
Speaker 9: didn't feel so blatant either and so. This is IT'S
Speaker 9: a new feeling and so, i think with newness and change,
Speaker 9: no matter what we're talking about. There's going to be
Speaker 9: uncomfortable feelings, but with all of that said like my
Speaker 9: caution And my words of wisdom to jazz fans as
Speaker 9: someone who has, seen many teams go through rebuilds like.
Speaker 9: It won't always be like this there will be a,
Speaker 9: point when they start to. Win like try to, win
Speaker 9: games whether it works out whether they actually are able
Speaker 9: to contend, for a title up for debate and, No
Speaker 9: ONE has the crystal ball But i wouldn't suppose that
Speaker 9: the jazz are going to be tanking longer than at like,
Speaker 9: Two more years at the most like they are. Going
Speaker 9: to want to win games they're gonna want to try,
Speaker 9: and put together a legitimate team and whether or not
Speaker 9: the fans can stick with them through the next couple
Speaker 9: two three years while they start to move, towards ACTUALLY
Speaker 9: trying to win, games, Is, i guess.
Speaker 1: We'll see, Right yes, we, Will all right so well
Speaker 1: well i'm glad that everything worked out and you stayed
Speaker 1: alive and your mother stayed. Alive and all that fun
Speaker 1: stuff so while that it's been, five years but quite
Speaker 1: an experience you'll be able to tell The grandkids about.
Speaker 2: When, you, and colin get busy okay uh we.
Speaker 9: Won't be happening never having children absolutely else.
Speaker 2: It'll be a.
Speaker 1: Great, story for someone else's. Grandchildren, SARAH thanks for, THE
Speaker 1: time okay i think friends i.
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Speaker 2: i'm just, SAYING someone's kids. She, getting married. I, don't,
Speaker 2: know yeah not judging.
Speaker 4: YEAH uh you haven't. Kids anymore.
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Speaker 2: CONTINUED it on his television program i saw that, my
Speaker 2: dating Life Is. Nobody's BUSINESS Certainly NOT dave fox's it's
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Speaker 1: at highwa state utah season comes TO. An end last
Speaker 1: NIGHT against ucf midweek training for oursl and preparation For,
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Speaker 1: Improve The head Coach Of. Raal salt Lake is, Pablo
Speaker 1: Mastruetti On, a, wednesday afternoon pob's happy?
Speaker 2: Wednesday Buddy?
Speaker 5: How.
Speaker 8: Are we, doing happy wednesday spence, you're right the vibes
Speaker 8: are great and it starts. With, THAT tribe called quest. Intro,
Speaker 8: man i love that stuff.
Speaker 2: Well the vibes are. Great when you.
Speaker 1: Join THE show so there's that, but, i got to
Speaker 1: ask you man how are. The vibes in that locker
Speaker 1: room it's not been.
Speaker 2: The, start you.
Speaker 8: Were hoping FOR no definitely not, and again, i think
Speaker 8: season overseason you know it's, really interesting and and you
Speaker 8: know it just takes a couple of pieces to kind
Speaker 8: of throw things. Out of Kilter a little bit but
Speaker 8: what i'll tell you is we have an Amazing group
Speaker 8: of guys that again, i've been here now five years and,
Speaker 8: this group is the most committed the, most professional and
Speaker 8: really you know willing to be accountable and learn and.
Speaker 8: And dig in and, speak up and, so you know
Speaker 8: after You know a, rough start like i'm you know
Speaker 8: even the uncoverings from this last weekend's, game and and
Speaker 8: and you know sitting with the guys and just talking
Speaker 8: through some things like it's it's, been so collaborative and
Speaker 8: so positive which for me says a lot. About the
Speaker 8: character of this group and and really in the direction
Speaker 8: that we're going to head because, we learned something from
Speaker 8: every game and, and both as PLAYERS and coaches right
Speaker 8: and and i think the togetherness and and and and
Speaker 8: what we're doing. Is REALLY probable at the moment so
Speaker 8: i know.
Speaker 1: Your job description is, not going out to sign players.
Speaker 1: Sin SCOUT players and acquired, Talent, but i will ask
Speaker 1: you pablo THERE is a significant portion of rsl fans
Speaker 1: right now that feel a little bit frustrated that all
Speaker 1: of the money that was brought into the club after a,
Speaker 1: Number of, different transactions were uh we're executed has not been,
Speaker 1: reinvested in talent for the, club namely in the. Attacking
Speaker 1: third namely at number nine do?
Speaker 2: You do you share that frustration are you in a
Speaker 2: spot of frustration as well waiting for, REINFORCEMENTS on the way.
Speaker 8: You know i WAS just talking to porter before i
Speaker 8: got on AND and one thing that that i, can't be,
Speaker 8: is is looking for you know reasons, To Absolve myself
Speaker 8: as A coach right i'm in THIS i'm in this,
Speaker 8: profession BECAUSE i love helping players and i love helping
Speaker 8: them get better and think about the game in life
Speaker 8: a lot different than, they did before they got HERE
Speaker 8: and AND and so when, i when, I look, at
Speaker 8: it you know, I think IF it was egregious i
Speaker 8: would i would probably. Be a little bit, more frustrated,
Speaker 8: but the truth is you know we had we had
Speaker 8: a nine that we traded for, and decided not to
Speaker 8: come right, and so, then we made it you know
Speaker 8: we so we have two, young nines who have unbelievable
Speaker 8: potential but they just don't. Have the experience at the moment,
Speaker 8: and to be fair to them they each have a, goal,
Speaker 8: In the first three GAMES right so if if if
Speaker 8: i was going to be tough on somebody, or on
Speaker 8: a couple of guys, It'd probably Be, our you know diego,
Speaker 8: and diego who are playing well but we're just not,
Speaker 8: getting a production at the moment and, so like instead
Speaker 8: of you know putting all the the onus on on two,
Speaker 8: young guys, that don't have experience you know what we're
Speaker 8: talking about internally is how do we be more productive
Speaker 8: from that ten position whilst waiting for maybe one or
Speaker 8: two attacking players to join the group, that can really improve,
Speaker 8: you know the the the execution, the finishing, because this
Speaker 8: to this you know looking at all the stats that
Speaker 8: we have, from from the, first three games is you
Speaker 8: know we're, we're, significantly under our expected goals right and
Speaker 8: that to me says we're, creating a lot of good.
Speaker 8: Chances we're, just, not finishing, them and so uh you,
Speaker 8: know we're WE'RE working, extremely hard as like i said
Speaker 8: as a collective to find. Those percentages that, otherwise you'd
Speaker 8: find and you Know Like, last year we, had andreson
Speaker 8: chico who you know they'd hit it from twenty YARDS
Speaker 8: out which is a zero xg but still. Find the
Speaker 8: back of the net and so we're looking, at this
Speaker 8: more as you know we got to. Find goals from,
Speaker 8: the collective mindset positioning is important, execution and the box
Speaker 8: is important and guys showing up ready to go on
Speaker 8: game day in. Those very important moments are, IMPORTANT.
Speaker 1: Since you Brought it, up i, Wonder because i've Asked
Speaker 1: excuse Me i've talked to jason AND kurt about this Deal.
Speaker 1: With i Thought It Was Elias APPARENTLY it's ilias ilias
Speaker 1: manuel manuel i. Guess it's, How to say it, and
Speaker 1: look bob's from my perspective it's always interesting because our
Speaker 1: pro basketball team here in the market for years and
Speaker 1: years and YEARS has had major issues with nba players
Speaker 1: who they wanted to bring. Here not wanting to come
Speaker 1: here and it doesn't seem like that's been a. Huge
Speaker 1: deal on the soccer, side so from your vantage point
Speaker 1: how did this whole thing break down and what sort
Speaker 1: of effect?
Speaker 8: Did, that have, ON your, group yeah so again, i
Speaker 8: mean this was eleventh hour so we're we're assuming that he's.
Speaker 8: In for, First day OF preseason you know kurt and
Speaker 8: i sat. With him on a zoom call he was
Speaker 8: super engaged and asking unbelievable questions about the game model
Speaker 8: and what the asks are, on both sides, Of, THE
Speaker 8: ball and he says oh i, LOVE the WAY you
Speaker 8: guys play.
Speaker 3: I love i.
Speaker 8: Love this idea this is wonderful, and then like, a,
Speaker 8: WEEK later it was Like Yeah, i can't. Come to
Speaker 8: salt lake you know and so you know a lot
Speaker 8: of times there's there's especially, player people That move You
Speaker 8: Know from say brazil, to new york in his case and, they,
Speaker 8: might have family, members there right and they have they
Speaker 8: have a. Setting community in a certain place and so
Speaker 8: it wasn't so much that He Didn't, want to come
Speaker 8: to salt lake is he, didn't, Want to leave me
Speaker 8: work right and so it's the. First time THAT this
Speaker 8: has happened and so i don't think it's not wanting
Speaker 8: to come here because everything that, we showed, from, the
Speaker 8: city perspective. He said oh it looks beautiful we talked
Speaker 8: about the people and the culture and the fan, base
Speaker 8: that is just you know loves football and wants to
Speaker 8: wants to have a championship team and he could. Be
Speaker 8: a big part of this and so the, whole THE
Speaker 8: whole meeting, was incredible and i was convinced like this
Speaker 8: is going to be a guy that's going to. Help
Speaker 8: us be great this, year and at the eleventh hour for,
Speaker 8: WHATEVER personal reasons he's Had Said i JUST can't leave
Speaker 8: new york or I. Have to go back to brazil
Speaker 8: so there's a lot of circumstances that. Are beyond just
Speaker 8: the professional. Side it's also the, personal side and and
Speaker 8: you know he's, married and they have you know they
Speaker 8: have their wishes and desires and so but but it was,
Speaker 8: really you know it you know so we were left.
Speaker 8: Kind of handcuffed, at that moment and You know We
Speaker 8: have to bring ari. From australia at the last second
Speaker 8: and you know he's been he's been a. Real bright
Speaker 8: spot in the group, so you, Know we're moving Forward
Speaker 8: you Know and and and, kurt and jay are you
Speaker 8: know looking at all over the world to pick up
Speaker 8: one or two players that can come in as soon
Speaker 8: as possible and help. Both both of the attacking group.
Speaker 1: Tell me your understanding of. Where we're at IN that
Speaker 1: process kurt Hopped. ON i think, it, WAS monday i
Speaker 1: don't know man i don't remember. What Ate for breakfast
Speaker 1: this morning but kurt hopped on, this week and. He was,
Speaker 1: honest he was forthcoming. He Said it's in the works and,
Speaker 1: i've been doing this long enough been around that club
Speaker 1: long enough to know that a transaction oftentimes can be,
Speaker 1: derailed by the. SILLIEST of paperwork misaps or whatever i,
Speaker 1: know these, things, aren't super easy but look man. You
Speaker 1: got to get some assistance you just need a little bit,
Speaker 1: more talent up there up. Top at least that's, My
Speaker 1: opinion so where we at pablo in the process of
Speaker 1: getting some HELP on.
Speaker 8: The way, so again I think you know we. Have
Speaker 8: we've identified three different players and here's, a difficult thing
Speaker 8: with these, transactions as you rightly pointed, out if it's
Speaker 8: an international, player whenever that signing is done you can
Speaker 8: expect three to four weeks before you can actually step on.
Speaker 8: The field because of these issues and that's. That that's
Speaker 8: not good for us although that's probably the those players.
Speaker 8: Are their most skettable right now the other ones are
Speaker 8: domestic and those, players you can get a side you
Speaker 8: can get those they can play. The next day after
Speaker 8: the signing the problem with those is now you're it's
Speaker 8: it's it's it's harder to find players through trades because
Speaker 8: certain teams don't want to get rid of a striker
Speaker 8: that maybe not may not be playing at the moment
Speaker 8: because they want, to use them. For you know a
Speaker 8: reserve role and so it's it's, just finding the right
Speaker 8: you know marrying the two teams that that want, what
Speaker 8: you're willing to.
Speaker 3: Give up and.
Speaker 8: Getting the player that you want so that that's the.
Speaker 8: That's the tough part of this and so there's no real,
Speaker 8: timeline in this on this spense, AND that's why from. My,
Speaker 8: role i just focused on okay, So if we don't
Speaker 8: have that so if we're not scoring a, lot of
Speaker 8: goals at the moment then we. Got to TIGHTEN up
Speaker 8: our defense and so i just my role in this,
Speaker 8: whole thing is a lot different and it's how do
Speaker 8: we maximize the the players that we currently have and
Speaker 8: the team that we currently have in the situation that
Speaker 8: we currently have to make it better for the next,
Speaker 8: game whilst, waiting for these guys because again new players,
Speaker 8: coming into, an environment that's like you, know when you're
Speaker 8: not getting results it's it's going to be difficult for, them,
Speaker 8: Because they're not superheroes either right so the more that
Speaker 8: we can study the ship in the next few weeks
Speaker 8: with good, performances that lead to great results it'll be
Speaker 8: much more of a of a conducive environment for these
Speaker 8: these players that are going to come in to to.
Speaker 8: Be able to really screw forward.
Speaker 1: At the risk of, asking the ultimate dumb guy question
Speaker 1: do you have a preference of international or domestic when
Speaker 1: it comes to the options or is it, just, Like,
Speaker 1: give me the.
Speaker 8: Best dude yeah, that's it's sense i'm you know beggars, can't,
Speaker 8: Be choosers at this point right we just want to
Speaker 8: get a guy or two in the, building that can.
Speaker 8: Really you know and and, get so to answer your
Speaker 8: question it's it's either it's it's whoever we can, get,
Speaker 8: and who fits the team uh to give, us the
Speaker 8: best chance to win because, at the end of the
Speaker 8: day that's that's, that's what we want to.
Speaker 3: Do and that's that's the aim, so every year.
Speaker 1: With THIS stuff WHEN, IT comes to mls and rsl
Speaker 1: i always remind people that the hot start will not
Speaker 1: continue and. The slow start will, not continue this. Is
Speaker 1: a slog it's. A marathon it ebbs and flows but
Speaker 1: four goals in Five GAMES If You, include the conky,
Speaker 1: caf champions cup and you know ultimately an expansion team
Speaker 1: rolls into town and.
Speaker 2: Kind of gives it to you You Go. ON the,
Speaker 2: road to san jose.
Speaker 1: I mean you, Know, the deal at what point pablo
Speaker 1: does a slow start in your mind become problematic and you.
Speaker 2: Start, TO get a little.
Speaker 8: Concerned yeah i just think then when you've. Pulled out
Speaker 8: all the, different stuffs so in other words, where as
Speaker 8: from a coaching perspective where we've looked under every nook
Speaker 8: and cranny, and haven't acted upon the information that's been
Speaker 8: presented in other, words like we have you know so we've, been,
Speaker 8: focusing on the attacking side right and so for the
Speaker 8: first five games and saying. We got to get any,
Speaker 8: spots so we are doing that but we're just not
Speaker 8: capitalizing or Executing Like. This last GAME against san diego
Speaker 8: never have i coached a game where we've had three breakaways, with,
Speaker 8: The goalkeeper and not scored. Right so, that's that's an
Speaker 8: anomaly so okay so if we're creating those, kind of
Speaker 8: chances and not scoring what's. The next, thing, to look
Speaker 8: at it's like well. We can't be given up goals
Speaker 8: so now we're rebalancing it to keep make sure that
Speaker 8: we keep zeros whilst we are creating chances and we,
Speaker 8: might score one and hopefully two but but we can't.
Speaker 8: Rely on the goals going in so therefore we, got,
Speaker 8: To FORTIFY or back line right, and i think that's,
Speaker 8: you know that's the important thing and that's something that
Speaker 8: we can take with us. For the rest of the season,
Speaker 8: even when we have you know one or two other
Speaker 8: players that, can contribute on the goal scoring we still want.
Speaker 8: To Be a solid, defensive team so i'm you know
Speaker 8: from from my advantage point is that we, learned something
Speaker 8: about ourselves every game and and until we've exhausted all
Speaker 8: different faith of the game, where we can make, ed
Speaker 8: improvements and we've done that. And yet we're not getting.
Speaker 8: Results That's where it becomes, worrying BUT i'll tell YOU what,
Speaker 8: like i said when, i STARTED when we started talking,
Speaker 8: is I believe in this group and i know that.
Speaker 8: We're going to get it right and it's just a
Speaker 8: matter of clear, understanding of what, the roles responsibilities and
Speaker 8: more Important the collective mindset going to houston is. Make
Speaker 8: sure we keep it zeros we're going to get our opportunities,
Speaker 8: and and and maybe you know it's always a lot
Speaker 8: easier to score goals when, you're, Not having to chase
Speaker 8: it right it's it's because you're playing from a place
Speaker 8: of calm and clear thinking when when you're behind it
Speaker 8: now you're forcing square pegs and round holes and passes
Speaker 8: that shouldn't be made and, decisions that are just you
Speaker 8: know made in. Haste AND all these different things but
Speaker 8: i really believe, in the character of this, group the
Speaker 8: quality of this group and we just now have to
Speaker 8: put TOGETHER a, complete performance because like i said our
Speaker 8: two young strikers do, have a goal that you know they.
Speaker 8: Have two goals amongst amongst themselves it's it's REALLY the
Speaker 8: other cast members that i think need to step up
Speaker 8: a little bit more to help them and in the
Speaker 8: meantime collectively defending the right way. So THAT we're not chasing.
Speaker 1: Games before, i ask you this next question you, just
Speaker 1: Reference your two Young Strikers. Which i'm assuming is arian
Speaker 1: forrester any other nine options on the roster? You, feel
Speaker 1: comfortable playing right.
Speaker 8: Now no we don't.
Speaker 3: Know that we don't. Have any those are. The two
Speaker 3: what a perfect.
Speaker 1: Answer THAT was the perfect answer so i want to
Speaker 1: hone in on those two for a moment because that's what.
Speaker 1: We have in front of Us let. Me ask you
Speaker 1: about ari first is he is he a little bit more?
Speaker 1: Nuanced in just a nine like is he? A?
Speaker 2: Guy you can. Play elsewhere yeah.
Speaker 8: Absolutely he is and and that's another wrinkle that we're
Speaker 8: looking to add to it because he can play out
Speaker 8: why and. He poses a real, speed threat he's got
Speaker 8: great size, but he's, got really soft. Feet nimble feet
Speaker 8: really good technique and so the reason why we can't
Speaker 8: play him in another position at the moment is because
Speaker 8: we then we only, do left with one nine right,
Speaker 8: and so as a young pairing we feel really good
Speaker 8: with one going, sixty the other one, going thirty, and
Speaker 8: depending on form you know either. Of those two can
Speaker 8: switch up, So he is definitely flexible tactically, he's got a,
Speaker 8: great soccer brain and you know he's definitely really like
Speaker 8: so if we bring, in another attacking player up front
Speaker 8: he's definitely a guy that can slide out wide and
Speaker 8: really cast. Some damage, from that wide position All.
Speaker 1: Right, let's MOVE over, to forrester now who i mean
Speaker 1: there are there are moments with him, like he's he's got,
Speaker 1: good size he's got good athleticism and that just always,
Speaker 1: stands out to me because oftentimes. Don't take THIS the
Speaker 1: wrong way you're watching Mls soccer and your striker is.
Speaker 1: Jason christ who's five to four It's like he's. Not
Speaker 1: A great i'm just kidding but forrester has an athletic
Speaker 1: physical presence about him that oftentimes. You don't see in
Speaker 1: this league so as you continue the, process of learning
Speaker 1: more about him what has stood out so far that
Speaker 1: maybe we're not seeing, in training because he has scored
Speaker 1: but there also been so many moments where you feel
Speaker 1: like he's got to, get, That one to be fair
Speaker 1: right so what stood? Out ABOUT his growth so Far.
Speaker 8: So i, would say with forrester he's got, like you're
Speaker 8: right to point out his physicality is is top like
Speaker 8: that kind of body could play. In any league in
Speaker 8: the world and what he is is he's he's still learning,
Speaker 8: the game from, a forwards position in other words what
Speaker 8: side of the defender to be on, The balls on
Speaker 8: said side right like little nuanced movements to put him
Speaker 8: in better positions to be. Able to protect the ball better,
Speaker 8: he's working on his first touch which is. A little
Speaker 8: bit rough at times but one thing that he. Is
Speaker 8: IS a is a learner and i would say with
Speaker 8: all our young players, that we've brought him this year
Speaker 8: they're incredible. Learners and students of the. Game they want
Speaker 8: to get better they're. Meeting with the coaches every day
Speaker 8: they're coming. In and you're seeing the growth and the
Speaker 8: tough thing about pro, sports, It's it's a now, business
Speaker 8: right so all these nuanced. Little little margins of gains
Speaker 8: aren't you don't realize it because they're starting so far.
Speaker 8: BEHIND what what you would expect a top. Nine in this,
Speaker 8: League to be, but you know, forrester for example is
Speaker 8: you know one of the things that we worked on
Speaker 8: in preseason was when he receives the ball back to goal,
Speaker 8: and he sets the ball back he wanted to. Open
Speaker 8: up to receive it, again, and one of the things,
Speaker 8: HOWEVER stopping, practice, in, soa, apartment i said no no
Speaker 8: no anytime you set, the ball back to a tend
Speaker 8: you turn and spin. And you run your tail, off
Speaker 8: you just if nothing else, you're moving that back line
Speaker 8: back so. That tene now time to drive you're creating space,
Speaker 8: for your ten but more. Importantly you're threatening the back
Speaker 8: line and so when he scored that Goal, when he
Speaker 8: came in against seattle it was like this moment was
Speaker 8: like it started back in preseason and now he's really
Speaker 8: he's applying it in real time and and. He got
Speaker 8: the reward for it, so he's a really good finisher
Speaker 8: but time, struggles, When he's finishing at speed, right so
Speaker 8: that's another you know That, goal that, he scored in
Speaker 8: seattle you know he missed a couple of those in
Speaker 8: preseason and also scored. A couple OF those in preseasons
Speaker 8: so again i, think it's just with these guys is it's.
Speaker 8: The expectations are are, too high if you're you know
Speaker 8: a fan and you want. To you want to win,
Speaker 8: now but from a coaching perspective the growth that they've.
Speaker 8: Had in eight weeks is, incredible and if we can
Speaker 8: again if we can solidify our our defending as a
Speaker 8: collective and not put so much pressure on them by
Speaker 8: having our tens be a bit, MORE productive on the
Speaker 8: offensive side i think these guys in a year two
Speaker 8: years could be. Big time forwards in this.
Speaker 1: LEAGUE so some interesting stuff there i want to FOLLOW
Speaker 1: the couple of things because i understand the club's ethos
Speaker 1: of betting on young talents and developing said talent and.
Speaker 2: THEN moving talent, on FOR premium i. Hate, IT but i.
Speaker 2: Get it okay i get it i've, Been, Drug along.
Speaker 3: FOR the ride.
Speaker 2: Pablo i'm on i get it is, that challenging as
Speaker 2: the coach though because, outside of, Outside, of YOUR keeper
Speaker 2: you're young pablo and i understand. That that's what the club,
Speaker 2: does but from a manager's perspective that's got, to be,
Speaker 2: A little frustrating.
Speaker 8: Though, you know i think the biggest the toughest frustration
Speaker 8: for me has nothing to do with their ability to
Speaker 8: execute as much as it is understanding, the game from,
Speaker 8: a collective standpoint, in other words like game management moment
Speaker 8: moments like why are you moving where you're moving to
Speaker 8: and really understanding what, the game needs.
Speaker 3: In this moment.
Speaker 8: And those things YOU can't, teach those things are i,
Speaker 8: mean we teach it through video. But you have to
Speaker 8: feel it and the real way to feel it is
Speaker 8: to get pulled because you're not doing, it when you're
Speaker 8: a YOUNG player and then going, When i get my
Speaker 8: next opportunity. I'm going to do it, right and unfortunately
Speaker 8: at this moment.
Speaker 3: We just don't.
Speaker 8: Have that option to do that, so we're learning on
Speaker 8: the fly. And so, IT'S it's really tough and again
Speaker 8: i think our leadership, group we meet once a week
Speaker 8: we talk about those the ways that those, players with
Speaker 8: Experience in this, league or like rafa for example, who's
Speaker 8: been all over the world can really lean on, these
Speaker 8: guys in, moments you know whether it's halftime whether it's
Speaker 8: pulling them a. Side after an exercise and training and
Speaker 8: so this isn't all hands on deck. With with with
Speaker 8: with this group as far as we got to mature quickly, there's,
Speaker 8: no there's no, you know bitching there's. No complaining there's
Speaker 8: no excuse. Making this is this is us we got
Speaker 8: to love who we are. And, we got, to move
Speaker 8: forward so you know for as Much as you, know
Speaker 8: you think i'd be frustrated it's really about always, thinking
Speaker 8: about solutions to these. Situations because, again it's never ideal
Speaker 8: you know you can lose a big, time player with a,
Speaker 8: KNEE injury and as a coach I could either, be frustrated,
Speaker 8: or i could say oh, right THIS is my new
Speaker 8: reality and I got to do the best i can
Speaker 8: with what we have and really drive, the group, from
Speaker 8: a positive perspective. Learning perspective and a togetherness perspective and.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 1: We're AIMING to do all, RIGHT before i set you
Speaker 1: loose i Do, want to ask you ABOUT yogo who
Speaker 1: is the only dp on the roster, as of, now
Speaker 1: and last year you know he, lands during the summer
Speaker 1: Transfer window and so and and jason Made A Really,
Speaker 1: good analogy About javier javier morales who when Javier landed
Speaker 1: here the first few jason on the show a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, said HE thought about cutting Him which
Speaker 1: i didn't know, because javier didn't settle in Initially and
Speaker 1: there are moments with diogo where you see that type
Speaker 1: Of creativity, and flair that, that javier had, who ultimately
Speaker 1: became in my opinion the.
Speaker 2: Best Player we've ever had here so i'm.
Speaker 1: Not ready to, anoint OR dismiss it's still early but
Speaker 1: i think it's safe to say that there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people THAT. Are expecting more from a dp
Speaker 1: so tell me what you're seeing and what you hope to. See,
Speaker 1: as he continues to.
Speaker 3: Acclimate yeah that's, A great question and.
Speaker 8: You know i think, when he came in last year.
Speaker 8: It was it was really difficult we were. Going through
Speaker 8: a topsy turvy time we had a, lot of, issues
Speaker 8: off the field you know and there's and then that that,
Speaker 8: kind of permeated onto the field and so it was
Speaker 8: never going to. Be an easy transition For him the
Speaker 8: one thing that i've noticed with him this year is
Speaker 8: his commitment TO the team and and what i mean
Speaker 8: by that is like one of the first, guys, In
Speaker 8: that training EVERY day, right and from a dp perspective
Speaker 8: you get you got to lead. More than just on
Speaker 8: the field so that part he's he's working two x,
Speaker 8: versus last year for so. Output physical output is two.
Speaker 8: X his quality speaks for itself the Only thing missing
Speaker 8: right now from diego is that, final piece whether it
Speaker 8: you know and more, importantly for us in. The moment
Speaker 8: is really the goals and and The thing is he's
Speaker 8: getting himself like at the weekend he had that He
Speaker 8: Had a great opportunity against san diego one on one,
Speaker 8: with the goalkeeper and didn't finish and. He's beating himself
Speaker 8: up about it but. He's getting himself in great spots.
Speaker 8: He's doing all the things right and so like, everything
Speaker 8: else suspense in every sport right you're when. You're when
Speaker 8: you're playmakers are confident it's almost like the ball just
Speaker 8: hits in. His backside and goes in right it's like it.
Speaker 8: Just it just manifests that way but he's doing all
Speaker 8: the little things behind the scenes and all the little
Speaker 8: things in THE games to be. A great dp in,
Speaker 8: this league and SO you know and and and i
Speaker 8: really believe that it's a, matter of time before you
Speaker 8: know if, ONCE he scores his first goal i think
Speaker 8: now teams, wire going to, play him different play us
Speaker 8: differently which is going to Open, up options For, guys
Speaker 8: like Dom. Guys like, ari guys like diego right, NOW
Speaker 8: it's where we're you, know i, don't think teams are
Speaker 8: you know necessarily worried about, our attack going into the
Speaker 8: game because we haven't. Done ANYTHING to make them fearful
Speaker 8: but i think, it's, a matter of time, When when
Speaker 8: when it all clicks diego, Gets back on the score.
Speaker 8: Sheet diego starts, putting up, goals dom continues, to you
Speaker 8: Know set Up goals and AND ari or forrester finishing
Speaker 8: where i think the, whole front line, will be empowered.
Speaker 8: Full OF bleed FULL of Confidence and i think i
Speaker 8: think diego is one goal away from.
Speaker 1: From from achieving that last thing it's Always, a tough
Speaker 1: road trip to houston But at least it's. Not freaking
Speaker 1: july where it's impossible, so what, Do, you just simple
Speaker 1: simple question pablo what Do?
Speaker 2: You, open to, see on saturday yeah just.
Speaker 8: Again a, market IMPROVEMENT defensively for the, group because, i
Speaker 8: think that's where you know if you're if you're not gonna,
Speaker 8: you score a lot of goals. You've got to be
Speaker 8: solid defensively, and WE'RE going on the road and i
Speaker 8: believe that if we're solid defensively and we're operating. FROM
Speaker 8: a zero goals against perspective i think. It will, free up,
Speaker 8: a group and so you know even though, The results
Speaker 8: haven't been going away i've seen. A lot. Of, real
Speaker 8: positive things you know again we're this last Game Where's
Speaker 8: one to one against san diego before, we can see.
Speaker 8: Too you know an injury time so like those little
Speaker 8: moments are deflating when you just kind of you're you're
Speaker 8: going all out to score the goal and, then you
Speaker 8: end up, conceding, Too and that's not professional right, and
Speaker 8: so this week in training it's been amazing to see
Speaker 8: the guys work collectively defensively and then and then from
Speaker 8: that the amount of times in training this week that
Speaker 8: we've been able to break from that position and create
Speaker 8: some really, good and. Score some really good nice goals
Speaker 8: so JUST an overall solid performance and, I think if
Speaker 8: we do that i think we'll find ourselves in a
Speaker 8: favorable position To. Get a, Great, Result, IN houston all right.
Speaker 1: Buddy well i appreciate the, time This is a long
Speaker 1: year so i'm. Sure you're gonna turn it around. Always, pulling, For,
Speaker 1: you save travels.
Speaker 8: Okay Thanks Bud APPRECIATE it to boblo.
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Speaker 1: the jazz Are. In Action Taken on the grizzlies utah
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Speaker 1: here in Salt Lake. It is at, the delta center
Speaker 1: by the way when did this whole dumb conversation Start
Speaker 1: About whether or Not It's. Delta CENTER or the delta.
Speaker 3: Center.
Speaker 2: I'M i clearly missed something.
Speaker 4: Ah i think it's always kind of been. Like A
Speaker 4: somewhat of a topic, but i will say that recently
Speaker 4: as recent, of as the change IN ownership there has
Speaker 4: been a i will say, a kind push from the
Speaker 4: organization from folks in the pr from folks who are clearly,
Speaker 4: receiving direction from folks above them to Influence Us, to
Speaker 4: CALL it, the delta center, which i understand that's the
Speaker 4: name that's. What they want to go with, but when
Speaker 4: you're talking in sentences, sometimes you can't speak that way so.
Speaker 2: It makes, it, kind of tough wait wait wait so
Speaker 2: They Want. Us, to Say The, Delta center No just.
Speaker 4: Delta centering that's what i'm saying sometimes you need the the,
Speaker 4: in order to complete a.
Speaker 2: Sentence you, pick a different, hill.
Speaker 4: Just yeah just the no the it's. The it's it's.
Speaker 2: It's the dopes how about this Get us A Jazz guest.
Speaker 2: And i'll say? Delta center there, how About That, just
Speaker 2: a thought the Utah Jazz the it is the Utah Jazz,
Speaker 2: and it is the Delta Center Which is where the
Speaker 2: utah hockey club. Will be playing. The game tonight there
Speaker 2: you go?
Speaker 3: SO is.
Speaker 4: IT a game match i believe i believe.
Speaker 2: In hockey it is. A game soccer is a match
Speaker 2: i think they. Call it just a.
Speaker 1: Hockey game soccer is. A, Match Hockey Is a game
Speaker 1: anyway utah hockey club, in need of points in regulation
Speaker 1: can't go to overtime if, they Want to catch the
Speaker 1: wildcard which i'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Is going, to be a.
Speaker 1: Possibility so Busy busy show Today are the cowboys or
Speaker 1: the jets?
Speaker 3: Going?
Speaker 2: TO be watchable next. Year, No, i Didn't think so.
Speaker 4: No, well the cowboys will be watchable but they'll be
Speaker 4: like kind of. How they have been last decade. They'll
Speaker 4: be like h five. Ish, maybe it'll Be.
Speaker 2: Real fun Well at.
Speaker 1: Least, i'm Not a jets Fan Yes the Jets, officially
Speaker 1: waived aaron rodgers throw rogan who is a free agent for.
Speaker 2: The first time in his career where? Is that dude
Speaker 2: gonna end up and what? Does that look like Next.
Speaker 4: Year it sounds Like Maybe. Pittsburgh I'D rather have russell
Speaker 4: wilson and I Don't really want to, have Russell wilson
Speaker 4: right now either but I'd Rather. Go that direction than,
Speaker 4: AARON rodgers i'll tell You what. I May Be a
Speaker 4: jets fan if, Tyrod taylor's your Starter Next.
Speaker 2: YEAR i'd, Rather Have tyrod Taylor I mean aaron rodgers or.
Speaker 1: Russell wilson isn't Even an argument i'd rather Have Russell
Speaker 1: brand playing quarterback. Than, aaron rodgers at this point man.
Speaker 1: Another dude who's, LOST his mind by.
Speaker 4: The Way I do believe that. THE aaron rodgers ship
Speaker 4: is sailed I told you, that before the. Jets signed
Speaker 4: him as she did that. Was what two plus years ago.
Speaker 4: Apparently we're still having that combo?
Speaker 2: Would, you do a darkness retreat yeah. You, do, it,
Speaker 2: ALL the time no no No i mean. Like the
Speaker 2: WAY aaron did it like IF i decided to pay
Speaker 2: thirty K to send you up to, Oregon for your
Speaker 2: pay five days. I'm all, you would do. That oh
Speaker 2: yeah like five days all they do is keep you
Speaker 2: alive with food and you're in like. A little hut
Speaker 2: FOR five days.
Speaker 4: You're telling me i can stay in. A, hut with.
Speaker 4: Probably sound dampening no there's. Nothing, It's darkness with no
Speaker 4: sound right so. You're, not hearing, much of, anything no you're,
Speaker 4: not you know talking to folks you're, not sending emails
Speaker 4: back and forth, You're not paying attention to games you're,
Speaker 4: not doing anything for five, days just chilling. In the dark,
Speaker 4: maybe some herbs i'm all in.
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna raise some, funds TO send you
Speaker 2: up there because i don't think you're. Making it, longer,
Speaker 2: THAN a day oh really. Yeah i think you're tapping out.
Speaker 4: Wow in a little dark.
Speaker 2: Room, in a little dark room well all. We're doing is,
Speaker 2: keeping YOU ALIVE you, got Nothing.
Speaker 4: If i i mean if, I'M taking IT as a challenge.
Speaker 4: I think I could do it i, think. I, could do,
Speaker 4: it fairly fairly well but yeah. SEND it in a
Speaker 4: dark room. I, do that. All the time.
Speaker 1: Okay fair enough, i'm Not judging i'm Not judging and
Speaker 1: i'm ambadatt but i'm not. Trying TO do, a darkness
Speaker 1: retreat like i said save the money and go in your.
Speaker 1: Room and, turn the, lights off but anyway all.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Let's get out of? Here porter what comes our way
Speaker 1: we are, Out and about? On remote Tomorrow what. Comes
Speaker 1: there Wearing a thursday show.
Speaker 4: On, A Thursday edition. Of the, program tony jones joins
Speaker 4: the SHOW. Talks of jazz talking some nba will flip
Speaker 4: over to the Youtes Hoop, side with our friend josh
Speaker 4: grant who was Very Excited. For the potential of alex
Speaker 4: jensen we'll Get Him. For the reality, Of Alex, jensen
Speaker 4: on the hill neil Smith We'll Discuss the aforementioned the
Speaker 4: Utah Hockey club. Playing at the delta center tonight dave.
Speaker 4: McManaman will stop by as well. Lebron return to La
Speaker 4: for treatment not with, the lakers as of right now
Speaker 4: and of course They. Are number two In the West
Speaker 4: we'll get the lakers the West of the Rest of
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