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Speaker 1: Welcome to softcore History. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to softcore History. I am your host for

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the week, Rob Fox, joined as always by Daniel M.

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Speaker 1: Register. Thank you, Robert Fox. Let's just do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm Robert Edward Fox a third I'm doing joined that,

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Daniel M. Register Edward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my grandfather's name.

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Speaker 2: It's an old man's name.

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Speaker 1: It's my dad's middle name.

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Speaker 2: I am the third. That's why I have old man names. Yeah,

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Robert Edward mean, Robert's timeless, the preus.

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Speaker 1: There's no Norman.

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Speaker 2: In my name. That would be awful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Norm's a great name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I don't know if it works.

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Speaker 1: Name your fourth child nor they.

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Speaker 2: Won't fucking be one. They're absolutely cannot be a fourth child.

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Oh do you know how much easier my day would

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have been if I'd have a newborn in my house,

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because if it was just two toddlers, I could just

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turn on the TV and take a nap while they

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sat there. Sure have to stay awake with the infant

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that he doesn't. I part of me was like, should

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I just put the outlet on him? The little the

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little thing of a jig that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you were gonna get a little darker there.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: Just his life came out of his misery.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put his life monitor on him for when

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he sleeps, and just be like now, I'm gonna fall

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asleep and if something bad happens to him, that'll go

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off and I'll wake up from my nap. But I didn't.

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I fucking powered through. I was gonna say about middle

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names though. My buddy has the dumbest middle name on earth.

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It makes me giggle every time, and I try to

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say it whenever I can, like when I was his

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best man, so I said said it as during the speech.

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Speaker 1: His middle name, his middle name is just Carl. Carl's

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a great name.

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Speaker 2: It's not a middle name.

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Speaker 1: It's a great Carl Carl. I wish it's my confirmation

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name now, sat Carl. It's an outrageous middle name. But

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the seer okay, see okay, No, the K would make

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it better, No, because then you're like to Carl Marxy.

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Carl with the sea is a strong American.

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Speaker 2: Carl with a K is a fancy your name, no

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matter who had it, whoever had it, Carl with the.

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Speaker 1: Sea spits on it like a good red blooded American,

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but just Carl, like.

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Speaker 2: Joseph Carl Smith Carl. It's use of a truck driver

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in the middle of your name.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I'm sorry you're such an elitist

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like myself, a blue collar Carl.

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Speaker 2: Apparently that'll be I'll just start calling you Carl on

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the show.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 2: The middle name settles a lot of naming arguments.

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Speaker 1: You're throwing the wife of bone pretty much. Yeah, and

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that's just what you Gut's what you did, right. Blake

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is your child's middle name.

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Speaker 2: Which is it's her middle name as well. Yeah, she

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wanted a piece of her in one of the names.

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Since I get a full.

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Speaker 1: Have you named all three kids technically first names?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Have you been the deciding was that your name? With

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the first three names?

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Speaker 2: I gave full control to Finn, to Courtney over Finn.

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Speaker 1: She picked Finn, She picked Finn Jacob Fox, and then

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we collabed in homage to our old co host.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, white Jake is the name. Yeah, and then uh,

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I think we we just collabed on the third one.

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First is all me. I was like, I'm just telling you,

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I'm naming the first child after myself. He's getting a sock.

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Speaker 1: I got DIBs. Yeah, like that's just gonna happen. You're

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gonna have the middle child whatever. I do know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, literally, name whatever you want. She's

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bad at naming two because for the second two. So

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for the first one we had the like filled out

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the bertificate immediately boom. For two and three we didn't

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figure it out for a whole fucking day. The baby

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was just nameless.

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Speaker 1: For the first day of its life, even know if

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it was your baby.

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Speaker 2: I was just like this, Yeah, they put like eight

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fucking censors. It's never out of your sight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but in the nursery, right, couldn't they just swap

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babies if.

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Speaker 2: There is no nursery. That's thing you see on TV

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of a bunch of babies in a room. It's not

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It's not a thing, not anymore anyway.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not at your elitist hospitals. No. Our hospital was

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to go to a private hospital.

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Speaker 2: Is there a public hospital? We're an America, motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: Aren't public hospitals like the nonprofits?

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Speaker 2: All the hospitals are I don't know, not nonprofit, I guess,

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but I think they're like they get nice tax breaks

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or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm out of my depth on that.

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Speaker 1: Anytime there's like a saint. Yeah, well, I imagine nonprofit.

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Speaker 2: It's certainly not nonprofit. That's the most expensive chair you've

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ever been to.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to pay your medical bills. People don't know.

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This is a life hack. Yeah, you push it on

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to future generations.

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Speaker 2: All I have to do is just never buy a

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house again or anything in my christ court doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not that though, Like you can pay ten

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dollars at a time. Also true, it's like, oh, the

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medical bill is what twelve million dollars? Okay, here's ten

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dollars a month for the rest of my life. And

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then I'm passing that debt to my children and they

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can they can pass it.

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Speaker 2: They can manage ten dollars a month. Yeah, yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: It's just a perpetual ten dollars to this hospital. Whatever. Cool,

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you're not getting my Ultimately they'll get the twelve million

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dollars through probably a millennium generation.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, a millennium generation.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like, mother, what is this debt we

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have to this medical facility? And you can put a

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cool positive spin on it. It could be like the

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Mets paying uh Bobby Banilla.

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Speaker 2: Right every year, Yeah, which everyone's like, oh me and

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I cute believe the BET's still a Bobby Bandilla a

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million dollar, but it.

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Speaker 1: Gets less of a big deal every year. Yeah, Otani's

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going to be that in twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stupid smart for winning, but it's I mean, the

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money's not worth as much twenty years from now. Twenty

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years from now, seven hundred million dollar contracts and you

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hand it out like.

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Speaker 1: Fuck, Otan's getting boned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you should have got that upfront, dog straight

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cash homey, I'm sure take out a second mortgage on

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Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Asshole. They worked out a back alley deal or they did.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be a literal billionaire, so it's not

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really that big of a deal now, Like by the

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time he's retired, he will be a billionaire.

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Speaker 1: So it's whatever. Anyway, might as well get into the topic.

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Speaker 2: That's our ten minutes of chatter to start the show.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's never a set amount of chatter. Yeah,

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it runs about chit chat, not even that. Sometimes we

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get right into it. Yeah, if this is your first

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time listening to podcast. I apologize, but this is the

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show if you're a regular listener.

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Speaker 2: Patreon dot com slash softcore history of a piece of

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content we're very proud of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of a collab of our own. Yeah, we

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did it together. A sketch we did together. My Brainchild

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your performance.

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Speaker 2: Story by Dan and written and performed by me, Edited

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by Dan. It's a nineteen thirty is Alex Jones.

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Speaker 1: It's I think one of the funniest things we've done

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here or at Grandex. Really at Grande, Yeah, you weren't

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that funny. Grand You were just out of people to

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text to start a podcast with. I guess not what

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everyone else was taking. Jared left the city. Yeah, offered

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him the job first. No, not our main job.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about this pot we did this podcast for

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either of us worked at our main job.

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Speaker 1: I know I was gonna offer Boosh the job.

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Speaker 2: So yeah. Jared was with Ross the circling back guys

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that all teamed up, and I was a little love

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to don the show with Dave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was the last guy. It was

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like kick picking teams at recess. Yeah. I was just

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puttsing around. You're fucking catching butterflies, picking your nose, yeah,

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putting your glasses up. Dan was like, fuck, that's so

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I'm stuck with better calls. I guess I gotta pick.

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It's the zin that makes you uh have a soft

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bitch lisp. I don't you become such a mushmouth now.

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I don't know if that's being a father just talking

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to kids. I always I'm the mushmouth. I've always sometimes

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had a lisp. I've never noticed it as hard as

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i've I guess the last couple of years editing our voices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not persistent, but it comes out from time

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to time. I don't know why. Like truly, I'm at

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a loss for when it does and doesn't come out.

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I don't know. I think I get ahead of myself

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speaking and I get mush mouthed, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's my whole leftop.

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Speaker 2: Moving to My brain's moving too fast, and like.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, I'm not dumb, I'm just thinking too far ahead.

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Speaker 2: That was like I think the actual character of Forrest Gump,

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like in the book, was actually supposed to be like

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basically an autistic genius, but he couldn't get brained to

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mouth makes sense.

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Speaker 1: He's a fucking stud ping pong player. I mean he's

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an All American football player Alabama. I've actually gotten dumber

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the more we've done the podcast this. Yeah, I used

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to be a sharp tool. Now I'm just a tool.

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Speaker 2: The brain's just going, eyes are going, don't my eyesight

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and what it used to be?

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Speaker 1: I am getting dumber by the day. I don't know

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if that is an effect of whatever happened last four

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Speaker 2: But here we are, here, here we are anyway. Today

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we are actually talking about a man. Oh Patreon, Patrion

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commons software history. Five dollars a month for the whole thing. Also,

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if you just want to if you just want to

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sample it, the all the sketches are there for a

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seven dollars one time fee, but we prefer you to.

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Speaker 1: We're really hammering you over the head today. Subscribe.

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Speaker 2: We like, we liked that sketch so much. And I

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think you can listen to the first seven minutes for

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free or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Fuck, no, I hope not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Patreon gives you a preview on everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think seven minutes. Maybe it's less than that,

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but I'm not giving you seven three minutes. I hope not.

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Speaker 2: If so, I have to speak to Patreon. Well you

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can go in and adjust review length as well. Whatever. Anyway, Yeah,

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we're today, we're talking about a real dumbass maroon, one of.

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Speaker 1: Arguably the dumbest people in UH.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to call it, intelligence, politics,

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foreign affairs that ever lived.

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Speaker 1: And what's sad about him?

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Speaker 2: I guess you could say is that he actually had

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a nice career, but he had a Buckner moment.

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Speaker 1: People forget Bill Buckner. Good baseball player. Yeah, redeemed himself too.

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In Game seven. Knew when he caught a baby in

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curb bill Buckner did. Yeah, that's funny.

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Speaker 2: No one remembers he actually I think he went like

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two for four something. He had RBIs in Game seven,

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but they lost. No one remembers, No one remembers his

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great career. He's dead now, shit, he did die. Yeah.

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the only thing people also remember. There's only one thing

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people remember about Arthur Zimmerman, and that is you know

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what it is.

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Speaker 1: The Zimmerman Telegram.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's the only saying people ever remember about Arthur's Zimmerman.

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The Zimmerman Telegram arguably the greatest fuck up in foreign

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relation history.

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Speaker 1: Or was it a hoax? Did we plant that to

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get involved in the war.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll get into that. Stay woke, bro, we'll get

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into that today because that's a big part of the story.

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So the Zimmerman Telegram pretty famous. You learned about this,

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and I remember learning about this in like fifth grade

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social studies, like it is a key component of American

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history when you talk about World War One. It is,

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of course the telegram the Germans sent to the Mexicans.

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Speaker 1: Being like, hey, well, let's just start some trouble down there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why are you invade America?

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Speaker 1: If you start fighting America, you know, we'll help do

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a little rooting in tootin shooting.

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Speaker 2: Well, you'll obviously win, and we'll give you Texas, New

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Mexico and Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget what they did to you. Based in Texas.

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Speaker 2: They were like, we'll give you most of the land

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they took back, now not California. And we'll get into

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why they didn't promise California. Because the plan behind the

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Zimmerman Telegram was one of the stupidest things ever conceived.

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So it was authored by German Foreign Minister Arthur Zimmerman,

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and basically, like I said, you encourage Mexico to invade

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the US, take back Arizona, Texas and New Mexico so

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that America wouldn't have the bandwidth to fight in Europe

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in World War one. Now, this all happened before we

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entered World War One, because it's why we entered World

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War One. We didn't care about not that we didn't care,

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but we did everything we could to not join the

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war before that, even though they were sinking our ships,

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killing American civilians.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. U the Zimmerman Telegram is, weren't we

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before this selling weapons both sides?

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Speaker 2: We were definitely selling things to the Allies.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was weapons, but it was

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like other supply. It was stuff that helped the war effort.

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Speaker 2: And it I don't remember the top of my headf

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we were actually straight up selling rifles and shells and shit.

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I don't think we were, but I do think we

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were selling machine parts that could make those things, as

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well as just other things that would help. Anything that

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helped the country, helped them stay in the war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, what I mean, only the Allies, I believe,

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So okay, I thought we were playing both sides.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was kind of hard to sell to the

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Germans since the British were blockading Germany.

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Speaker 1: A landlocked nations, not laylocked Germany. Yeah, absolutely not laylocked. Whatever,

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I'll cut this out anyway. If you do, you fucking

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better not. Goddamn it. It would be furious if you

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cut this out. I didn't. I was unfamiliar that Germany

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had beaches.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they do, like the way Michigan

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has beaches.

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Speaker 1: I suppose, yeah, Like I don't know if this is

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news to me. Apparently I thought I was good at geography.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: But well, come on, dude, I would wreck you in

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a geography I you absolutely blank map. Get me Africa

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right now?

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Speaker 2: Are you you just you didn't know that Germany touched water,

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and you're and and you're flexing.

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Speaker 1: On this listen. I don't think most people thought Germany

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touched water. This is a normandy or in France. We will,

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uh yeah, we will. We'll do that challenge on patro

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We'll do a geography challenge. All right, Just get me

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Central America. We'll go straight up Central America right now?

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Name them?

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Speaker 2: I always forget the uh the what do you call it?

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I don't remember what that thing's called. But there's a.

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Speaker 1: Easy this way to remember. Good boys eat Hogi's not

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cold pizza.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could just name them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, quateema boom. Yeah, boys, believe you don't you don't

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need the.

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Speaker 2: Boy. That's such a I think.

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Speaker 1: Costa Rica, Panama at Salvador.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Anyway, So.

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Speaker 2: Zimmerman, he's mostly good at his job, but he is

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he does make one other misstep that really fucked two

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other missteps that really fucked Germany.

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Speaker 1: One in the near term, one in the long term. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The first one is is that he was one of

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the people that agreed with the Kaiser that they should

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help Austria Hungary in the first place when the war

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broke out. So he was like, yeah, let's get into it,

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let's chop it up.

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Speaker 1: What was wrong, Willhelm? He had like a fucked up arm.

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Speaker 2: A hand or something hand I think, limp, yeah, just

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like a dead hand, a baby hand.

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Speaker 1: Disgusting. I understand why his cousins made fun of him. Absolutely.

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Why wouldn't you make fun of that mango? This dude

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started the World War because people just were ripping on

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his little dead hand.

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Speaker 2: I think he was also by far the dumbest.

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Speaker 1: Of the three, makes sense, like King George.

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Speaker 2: George, I think it was George, King George obviously not

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the revolutionary King George, but King George. And then Zar Nicholas.

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Speaker 1: Nicholas. We know Nicholas because he meets a awful awful and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, him and his whole family are executed together. It's

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not sweet.

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Speaker 1: You'd want that though, right? No, would you rather be

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executed alone or with? You know, the loving embraces of

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your family.

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Speaker 2: Do you know your kids are gonna die either way?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I guessed together. Then do you go first or

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you do go last? Do you want to see that memory?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not about whether I want to see it

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or not, because I don't want to see it, but

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I think whatever makes it.

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Speaker 1: It's like do they want do you want your kids

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to go out seeing you getting pops in the back

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of the head or vice versa.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's just so bad all around.

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I would just be like, I don't know, we'll dress jaws, asshole.

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Just let's get this over with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta kind of sait domit yeah, just talk shit.

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Speaker 2: It And Nicholas didn't know by the way, he was

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told they were setting up for a photograph.

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Speaker 1: No, like, there's no way that's true. Yep, they were

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very hostile.

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Speaker 2: No, they were in they were they were imprisoned, but

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they were like, we're gonna take a picture of you

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for the paper or.

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Speaker 1: Something like that, for like we're holding you hostage. Yeah,

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and then just yeah yeah. Uh, Lenin's a bad dude.

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Speaker 2: Oh Lenin makes a cameo in this nice Germany goes

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to war. The Kaiser wanted to go war, but Zimmerman

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was like, yeah, let's do it. I concur let's do it.

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Let's like no one talked to not enough people talk

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to the Kaiser. Out of it, Zimmerman was one. So

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he helps get Germany into the war in the first place. Now, Zimmerman,

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his entire career as a foreign minister after the war

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starts is essentially subterfuge, Like he's just like, how can

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we fuck the Allies in the ass, Like, how can

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we get him from behind any way we can? So

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in nineteen fourteen, he hatched a plan to get the

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Irish to rebel to open up a second front on

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the United Kingdom solid idea. Yeah, they wanted to do it.

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So in nineteen fourteen, Zimmerman is visited by because.

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Speaker 1: The Irish Revolution is in the like twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it starts not far after it is,

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and so he and he and obviously there's been shit

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brewing the whole time. So he's like, we can get these,

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we can get these motherfuckers. The Irish were openly rooting

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for the Germans in the war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we've discussed that actually with the Alistair

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Crowley episode. Yeah, during World War One, he was like

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a social pariah because he was pulling for the Irish

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since he like claimed to be on the Irish side,

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he's rooting for the Germans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh and in the United States, tons of

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Irish Americans.

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Speaker 1: Were like, good, fuck, fuck England, Germany. We did the

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episode on the Irish invasion of Canada. There's kind of

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some roots there. In the late eighteen hundred's, like right

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after the Civil War, a bunch of Irish you know,

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Union soldiers went up and tried to take Canada because

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it was a big fuck you to the crown.

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Speaker 2: Irish fucking hate the English people.

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Speaker 1: Forget that that that didn't get solved mostly.

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Speaker 2: Until the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Still hasn't been solved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not until the whole island's session.

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Speaker 1: We need to get Northern Ireland. Yeah, fellas, what are

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we doing and are we giving them that little sliver?

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Speaker 2: And then they're all converted back to Catholicism at gunpoint?

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Speaker 1: Put them back in camps. Well, we got to return

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the favorite church camps. Fucking Ira was in camps until

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two thousand. Yeah, that's insane. That's way too recent.

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Speaker 2: If it's not already clear that Zimmerman and his brain

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478
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479
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I highly recommend doing this. I would have told Arthur

480
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Zimmerman to do it. If he had been around, if

481
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I had been around to tell him in a magic

482
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mind had been around, I guess maybe I could have

483
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just told him to eat mushrooms they use and stuff

484
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,759
like that. I don't know, but yeah, Zimmerman is not

485
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,759
a smart guy. Could have used the magic mind. And

486
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here's the next example of kile. Zimmerman not a super

487
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sharp dude. So Zimmerman's visited by Roger Cassamant. He's an

488
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Irish nationalist, and they got it. They hatched a plan

489
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that the Germans would land twenty five thousand soldiers on

490
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the west of Ireland with seventy five thousand rifles for

491
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them in the Irish didn't really come to fruition. In

492
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nineteen sixteen, Cassiment returns to Ireland on a U boat

493
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on a German U boat and it is subsequently captured

494
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and executed, So it does. That doesn't come to fruition. However, Zimmerman,

495
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how'd they execute him? I assume they hang them, but

496
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who knows, maybe a firing squad. They use firing squad

497
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and the wind that.

498
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Speaker 1: Shakes point no. So I'll base all.

499
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Speaker 2: My history for this on the film The wind that

500
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shakes the barley with Killian Murphy. They tied him to

501
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a post and shot him. So that's my guess, if

502
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,680
I had to guess. Doesn't abandoned the plan though, and

503
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,920
a German ship under Norwegian colors shipped twenty thousand rifles

504
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to the South Irish coast to be given to Irish rebels. However,

505
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the ship failed to reach the rebels and was scuttled.

506
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The Irish who were planning to rebel were like, it's.

507
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Speaker 1: Coming any day, any day now to come, and it

508
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doesn't come.

509
00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 2: Do come. They're like, all right, fuck it, it's on

510
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,920
the way. But we'll just start. We'll just start doing it.

511
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Speaker 1: Without the weapons.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to other weapons, and the other weapons

513
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,880
will come and and it will just be a nice

514
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boost to us.

515
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Speaker 1: And that's the whiskey talking. Yeah, So that's the Easter

516
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Rising in Dublin. H he has risen.

517
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Speaker 2: The rifles obviously never show up the rise. The Easter

518
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,799
Rising is put down viciously and a bunch of rebels.

519
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,079
Speaker 1: Die, yeah, just throwing hands against the gun. I don't know.

520
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,759
Speaker 2: I didn't look into what the Easter Rising consisted of.

521
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:27,279
Speaker 1: That A couple like lead pipes or something.

522
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just get drop Kip Murphy's playing in

523
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:34,000
the background, Bonut bonut.

524
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Speaker 1: They're like, even though, slapping their hand with the pipes

525
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and it's playing in the background. Yeah, and they just

526
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get lit up. Pretty much. It's that scene from Gangs

527
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:42,960
in New.

528
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,599
Speaker 2: York where like music cuts, where like the people walk

529
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up to the line of Union soldiers and they're just

530
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,200
like fuck it, fire and they just get lit up

531
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because they're armed troops against lead pipe motherfuckers.

532
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Speaker 1: This does eventually, though.

533
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Speaker 2: That was sort of one of the first sparks of

534
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the eventual Irish War of Independence that you referenced that

535
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,839
started in nineteen nineteen.

536
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Speaker 1: Ends in twenty one, twenty two. Yeah.

537
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Speaker 2: Zimmerman, though, also had a ton of interest in the

538
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,319
United States of America, particularly America and not entering the

539
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war at the time.

540
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Speaker 1: I think we were already the world's largest economy.

541
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Speaker 2: We were a sleeping giant basically, and everyone everyone knew that.

542
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Speaker 1: The British knew it.

543
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Speaker 2: That's why they wanted us in the war as soon

544
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as possible. The Germans knew it. That's why they didn't

545
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want us in the fucking war. Everyone knew this, and

546
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Zimmerman considered himself an expert on the United States of

547
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:41,119
America because he took a train trip across the country

548
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,279
in nineteen oh four. Yeah, so he was like, yeah,

549
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I sat in the train and looked at the countryside

550
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and got out a few times. I know what these

551
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:49,680
people are about.

552
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: It's like saying I'm an expert in the Caribbean because

553
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,799
I went on a cruise. Yeah, pretty much.

554
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: So this guy's a little up his own ass. He's like, no,

555
00:27:58,599 --> 00:27:59,319
I know, I know.

556
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Every You've seen parts of this country. You've seen them all.

557
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,720
You know Iowa, New York, same thing. I've seen some confields,

558
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,000
I've seen San Francisco.

559
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: I know it this country. So if you're not to fight,

560
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I know something I does on.

561
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Speaker 1: A train and says.

562
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Speaker 2: On a training it's a fight. It's fighting. In nineteen fifteen,

563
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Zimmermann starts talking shit to the United States about how

564
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you don't want a piece of this because if you

565
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fight us, you're fucked. He specifically told James Girard uh,

566
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the American ambassador to Germany, that if they fought the Germans,

567
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a half a million quote unquote trained Germans living in

568
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the US would mobilize immediately and the millions of Irish

569
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immigrants living in the country would join them and start

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a revolution and overthrow the US government, is what he

571
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told the ambassador.

572
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Speaker 1: I have a different thought when I hear train Germans.

573
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:08,880
What It's a different war. Yeah, different time, different group

574
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of people.

575
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,359
Speaker 2: Just one conductor.

576
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Speaker 1: Taking one route over and over again. Kind of making

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the end of Toy Story three or what I thought

578
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was the end of three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, doc out ended how we thought Toy Story three was.

580
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Speaker 1: Gonna It would have been awesome if that's how Toy

581
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Story three ended. It's more hands held together.

582
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Speaker 2: It's more of a problem that they didn't end at

583
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Toy Story three. The four was fine, they're making a five.

584
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Speaker 1: You have to you gotta run back, ip.

585
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: I know you do, I know you do.

586
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Speaker 1: What else are we gonna do? Rob create something original? Fuck?

587
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Speaker 2: Now, not even create something original within like the Toy

588
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,400
story verse, right, like just do new Toys.

589
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Speaker 1: Can't do that? No, we already we have everything, franchise,

590
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,200
we have everything we love. I get it, and I

591
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,519
think we're gonna do better than Woody. You're so smug

592
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:04,079
you think you can come up with a character better

593
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than Woody. Buzz Lightyear.

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Speaker 2: Uh are they even relevant anymore?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

596
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Speaker 2: I mean kids still have toys. I know that because

597
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there's a fucking million.

598
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Speaker 1: You ever have a woody doll?

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Speaker 2: I did not have a woody doll. I think one

600
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of my kids does.

601
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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Oh so there you go. Yeah, I guess it is relevant.

603
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It apparently it is. So the American ambassador. Zimmermann tells

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him this, and the American Ambassador tells the State Department.

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I thought he was joking, but he was actually serious.

606
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,319
That's a direct quote. I thought he was joking, but

607
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:47,640
he was actually serious. This dude is a fucking clown.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean this is how I feel every day

609
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I have to interact with you. Oh okay, and you

610
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:56,519
seem upset, but I'm like, God, there's no way like

611
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:01,200
Rob is. It's clearly uh he's keplaining it up. Yeah. Yeah,

612
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,039
in no way. He took this offensive me talking about

613
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:05,680
his wife and his children over and over.

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00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,799
Speaker 2: Full of hate, full of hate. So Zimmerman was like,

615
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:13,920
all right, we got to fuck with the United States.

616
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We gotta fuck with him, keep him out of the war.

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The first thing he does I didn't know this. He

618
00:31:20,759 --> 00:31:26,720
helps finance Pancho Villa yeah, So Pancho Villa doing cross

619
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,440
border raids into the United States, into Columbus, New Mexico specifically,

620
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,839
that's on Zimmerman's dime partly. And after Pancho Villa does

621
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,279
his cross border raid into New Mexico, Woodrow Wilson sent

622
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:45,079
troops down there to in New Mexico to pursue Pancho

623
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,680
Villa and you know, take him out because he's not

624
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,319
going to stand for people even like a small cartel

625
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,440
or whatever you want to call it, invading the United States. Right.

626
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,279
Speaker 1: Wasn't that a part of the Smithley Butler episode we

627
00:31:57,319 --> 00:31:58,519
did on Patrio?

628
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: I think?

629
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, he was there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

630
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Speaker 2: And so it was General Pershing, who would go one

631
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to command all the US troops in World War One.

632
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,880
So they see this and they're like, oh, dude, he

633
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,079
sent a bunch of troops just for that. If we

634
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,319
can get like a serious disturbance at the border, he'll

635
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send the whole fucking army there.

636
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're good to go. It's not like the

637
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,880
US has one hundred million people living in it at

638
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that time.

639
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:27,759
Speaker 2: It's not like it's not like the US has a

640
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:34,200
humongous population. What was our population in nineteen sixteen, one

641
00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:35,480
hundred and one million people.

642
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Speaker 1: So it's not like they're one of the biggest countries

643
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,920
on Earth or anything. But you know, we're Meltzinbot. We're

644
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,559
too split up, and you can get plenty of Mexicanos

645
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,839
and Irishmen to turn against the nation that is home

646
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,079
in them. That's what he thought. That's what he thought.

647
00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:50,640
So they saw that clearly going to be all these

648
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,640
people are going to be loyal to where they came from.

649
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Speaker 2: Right not to their new country that they're citizens of.

650
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So he sees this, and the Germans see this and

651
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,480
they're like, oh, dude, all we got to do is

652
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,519
create a bigger disturbance on the border and they'll be

653
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:06,680
too tied up. This was stupid and wrong, but they

654
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200
were like, we got it, We got this. But that

655
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,359
wasn't all. There is an American trader in our midst

656
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as well. It turns out perhaps one of the men

657
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responsible for Yellow journalism and the Spanish American.

658
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Speaker 1: War, William randolph Hurst.

659
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Speaker 2: William randolph Hurst, we might need to do a whole

660
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:30,599
episode on how this guy is one of the biggest

661
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,480
assholes in American history.

662
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Speaker 1: I think that's common knowledge like an app especially because

663
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,240
you know it's four twenty right now as we record. Oh,

664
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:41,759
smoke it up, brother. Yeah, he's responsible for, like we

665
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,559
being illegal.

666
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is responsible for a lot of fucked up shit,

667
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:50,519
including starting the Spanish American War. H And this is

668
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:53,039
even more egregious in a bunch of paper mills.

669
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: So we thought hemp was a competitive product, right, So

670
00:33:56,759 --> 00:34:00,680
that's how we got marijuana to be a legal and.

671
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:07,279
Speaker 2: All variations of it. Yep. So in nineteen sixteen, Zimmerman

672
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:12,000
encouraged and keep in mind, this is just a year

673
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:15,079
before the war, and there's clearly one side that we're on,

674
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even if we're not officially on it, Zimmerman encouraged William

675
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:24,840
Randolph Hurst to make a silent movie series about Japanese

676
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,159
spies who ally themselves with Mexicans and invade the United States.

677
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You're got to plant the seed, Yes, they want to

678
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,880
be planting the seed that the Mexicans were ready to

679
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,199
invade A and B, that the Japanese, who were Allies,

680
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:42,639
they were part of the Allied faction in World War One,

681
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,960
just to steal German islands in the Pacific mostly, and

682
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that the Japanese would turn on them at any moment

683
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and happily take I imagine. And this is why it

684
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wasn't promised in the Zimmerman Telegram California, even though for

685
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,239
some reason, the uh, the climax of the movie was

686
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,559
the Japanese invading New York. Yeah, but either way, Zimmerman

687
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,320
tells Hurst that he should make these propaganda films to

688
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,000
make Americans more fearful of Mexicans and Japanese than Germans

689
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,960
make and try to throw a wrench in the Allied

690
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,840
contingency that already exists.

691
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Speaker 1: And Hurst makes the movies. He's getting paid, right.

692
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he finances it too, but yeah, Zimmerman gives him

693
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money for it.

694
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Speaker 1: The production.

695
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Speaker 2: Was so transparently pro German propaganda that a Senate committee

696
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investigated it after World War One.

697
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Speaker 1: We're not doing that right now with the CCP. What

698
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,880
we're not gonna do that right now? The nope, with

699
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:54,440
John Cena apologizing and Mandarin Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, Like

700
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:56,199
huh interesting.

701
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Speaker 2: That's weird. Why are we making movies for another country?

702
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Speaker 1: Not great, it's not ideal. Do you believe in Taiwan?

703
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:06,840
We need an official stance on this year.

704
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm Taiwan's its own country.

705
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: We're not one China.

706
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: No, fuck that shit.

707
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,519
Speaker 1: They just were sending the record straight boys.

708
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:16,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a German propagandist who had written in hearst

709
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:20,840
newspapers had they found a letter like the intercepted letter whatever,

710
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,119
explaining that the entire point of the picture was to

711
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:28,519
deprecate Japan because Germany was worried about losing its colonial

712
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,000
holdings and they wanted to somehow cut off Japan.

713
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: What islands, said Germany have, I don't know.

714
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,599
Speaker 2: They've sod much of random shit in the Pacific.

715
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,679
Speaker 1: The movie was so fucked up.

716
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: That Woodrow Wilson personally requested that it be withdrawn.

717
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: Woodrow Wilson overstepped his power again and again and again.

718
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,199
He is perhaps him and FDR some of the most

719
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,920
power abusing presidents in US history.

720
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: I'd agree with that, oh would the problem with only

721
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,440
the reason. The thing that saves FDR is third.

722
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: Term and more.

723
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:09,159
Speaker 2: He was a he was great wartime legitimately our best

724
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:13,400
wartime president of all time, probably like unquestionably The problem

725
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,480
is more his first two terms. Even in his third turn,

726
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:17,960
you made like the g I Bill and stuff like

727
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,039
that also mine.

728
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: So my problem is the fourth term, didn't follow through,

729
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,320
didn't Yeah, didn't finish, Nope.

730
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: Just got jacked off by his cousin and had a stroke.

731
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:31,679
Speaker 1: I mean that's a hell of a hand job.

732
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: Then, well, it wasn't during, it wasn't stroke squared.

733
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,519
Speaker 1: It was later, I'll be getting handy from my cousin

734
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,199
and she maybe stroke out. Yeah, I mean, if it's that,

735
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:44,719
if it's you know, if you're on.

736
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:48,159
Speaker 2: The edge of dead, I mean, in your sixties to

737
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,400
even care anymore.

738
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Hands a hand, I'm your cousin, know me, your whole

739
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:58,320
life just a hand.

740
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 2: I'm sixty two, everyone's ay, and.

741
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Everyone's a hand when you're sixty everyone's a hand when

742
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:05,239
you're in a submarine. Yep.

743
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: So in nineteen seventeen, Germany's getting beat down pretty bad.

744
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,400
Things are getting desperate. The blockade, the British blockade is

745
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,480
sucking them. So they're like they had they had gone

746
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:20,800
away from unrestricted submarine warfare, which is just you see it,

747
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,920
sink it because they were afraid that would cause the

748
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,679
United States to enter the war and we just can't

749
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,719
afford another major power coming in, so they had cut

750
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,599
it off for a little while. However, the Lusitania is

751
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,119
what did it? Because it killed one hundred that almost

752
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,440
got America under the warm.

753
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: Well, that's also conspiracy riddled. What that it was a

754
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,280
British sub that did it? To get just asking questions, Rob.

755
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,199
Here's the problem is that the Germans apologized for it.

756
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,599
Speaker 2: They didn't play.

757
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: They didn't do what they should have done, which is

758
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,280
just do that was a British nine denied deny, Yeah, that.

759
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 2: Was a British submarine. They're trying to get you in

760
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,760
the war, dog, we ain't do that shit. They were like, oh,

761
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,199
are bad, We're sorry, but we did do it, but

762
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:14,239
we're sorry. So Zimmerman, knowing that unrestricted warfare was coming back,

763
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,639
sub warfare was coming back, It's like, okay, fuck, this

764
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,880
is we're gonna do something Lusitania like he In and

765
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,119
we're gonna get the US into the war. So we

766
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:27,559
got to have a contingency plan here. So Zimmerman was like, Okay,

767
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,039
here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna send the President

768
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:36,599
of Mexico a telegram and I'm gonna tell the President

769
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:43,079
of Mexico that if they attack the United States will

770
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:49,800
help however we can, and they will get Texas New

771
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,519
Mexico and Arizona.

772
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,519
Speaker 1: You're also putting a lot of faith in somebody you

773
00:39:53,559 --> 00:39:56,920
don't really know what the president of Mexico. Yeah, yeah,

774
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
he could immediately just turn around and be like, hey,

775
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,239
look they just did well, they just sent It's even

776
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,400
worse than that as far as the trust goes, because

777
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,840
he's trusting a country that is in the middle of

778
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:15,079
like multiple revolutions, has no army to speak of, absolutely

779
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:19,199
no navy, like Mexico has no ability to do this.

780
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,760
He just wants a couple of groups of terrorist right

781
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,000
to just function up in America. But Mexico.

782
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,679
Speaker 2: Has no ability to do this, and so he has

783
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,599
a contingency plan for that as well, even though I

784
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:36,079
think he still massively overestimates what the Mexicans can do.

785
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: But he sent it to Canada, he has well, it's.

786
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: Not even Canada at that point? Is it? When in

787
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,000
Canada become its own country? I feel like it was

788
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,800
after World War One?

789
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: Mm okay, Canada gets into eighteen sixty seven.

790
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:54,039
Speaker 2: Sorry, but they were obviously sending troops to uh, what

791
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,280
do you call it, to the Western Front. So Zimmerman's like,

792
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,000
all right, here's a contingency plan for contingency plan. He

793
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:08,840
instructs in this telegram the Mexican president to contact Japan

794
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:12,320
and form an alliance with them.

795
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: So too many steps down.

796
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,599
Speaker 2: So that Japan and Mexico will co invade the United

797
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:21,079
States and Japan can take the West coast and Mexico

798
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:24,000
can take the south southwest.

799
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: Just America. Yeah, no shit, but like just logistically think

800
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,400
about Like, you're the president of Mextica. I reach out

801
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:35,000
to Japan. Dog, I don't have their number, Mexico.

802
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:40,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Japan's like, who is this Mexico? I bet you

803
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,920
Once one League of Nations meeting, I met you. We

804
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,519
didn't even talk. I just saw you give you a

805
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:46,960
head nod.

806
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. We like said, Hi, what you want us to

807
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,239
what now you want to get in bed with me? Now? Thanks,

808
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,599
I'm good. I don't know you like that? M against

809
00:41:56,599 --> 00:42:02,119
who the US? Okay, hanging up now. I do not

810
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,519
want to be brought into this.

811
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:10,159
Speaker 2: So that's dumb ass situation Number One, he thinks Mexico

812
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,880
has any any capability to muster forces to eat to

813
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,960
fuck with the United States. Two, he thinks Mexico can

814
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,159
call Japan and somehow convince Japan, who, by the way,

815
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:24,440
is basically just feasting in the Pacific right now, taking

816
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:25,159
whatever they want.

817
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're bucking imperial Japan.

818
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: This is the same This is the same Japanese that

819
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,599
we fight in World War Two. There is not some

820
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,400
new It's not like Germany where like there's a new government. Like,

821
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,360
this is the same Japanese government.

822
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: But we're friendly with them. We're like we were, Yeah,

823
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,599
we were. We're not really worried with what you're doing.

824
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,280
I guess not at the time. Really, uh so, Zimmerman.

825
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: And that's what the movie was for, right, to make

826
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Americans be like, dude, the Japanese like sus And by

827
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:56,719
the way, this is back when movies when you showed

828
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,599
a movie and a train was coming at the screen,

829
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,639
people jumped out of their seats. Yeah.

830
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,079
Speaker 1: But I mean there's a reason. You know, Helen Keller

831
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:07,119
was boys with the Emperor Japan. Yeah, they're not going

832
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:13,360
to turn on her now, went over, had some speaking engagements, speakingly.

833
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: Well, she did learn words.

834
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: I guess sound water, Helen Water. It's our girl right here.

835
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:24,679
Speaker 2: We got her. So that's dumb ass parts number one

836
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:27,239
and two of the Zimman Telegram. But it gets stupider

837
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,679
like and stupider and stupid.

838
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,639
Speaker 1: The next part is that.

839
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: Zimmerman sent the telegram through American lines, like American telegraph lines.

840
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,559
Speaker 1: He didn't know how the technology worked. Okay, he was

841
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:50,599
an old guy sending a text. It was encrypted. It

842
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,039
was encrypted, Oh dude, he thought he was on signal

843
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:59,960
yep or telegram yep. Fucking boys, yep. He sent one vius.

844
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,679
But he he sent a dick pic on Snapchat and

845
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:04,719
he got out. Yeah, he sent it to the story.

846
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: He sent an additional copy of this. He sent an

847
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,760
additional copy of this through the American embassy in.

848
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: Berlin, as one does. Yeah, you know, you gotta show

849
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,079
your cards occasionally. Maybe if they see it, the big

850
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,239
this has to be a nah distraction. This can't be real.

851
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,920
That's how they reacted.

852
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: So Zimmerman, though, was like, oh, our but our our

853
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,000
codes are unbreakable, so we're good. The British, of course,

854
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,119
had broken their code, because if there's one people on

855
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:33,320
earth that will break every fucking encryption code, it's the

856
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,599
goddamn British six.

857
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if they existed yet.

858
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,559
Speaker 2: It was called Room forty, was their encryption room. The gentleman,

859
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,159
the jit, Yeah, the King's men.

860
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: The King's men.

861
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:49,159
Speaker 2: So the British broke the code and they like had

862
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,880
it completely translated already. So when the Zimmerman telegram gets

863
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,199
to Room forty, which is where they do the encryptions,

864
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,840
the two cryptologists immediately summoned Admiral reg Reginald Paul, who

865
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,360
was in charge of the ship, and they say to him.

866
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,280
One of the cryptologist asked the admiral, Uh.

867
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: Do you want the Americans in the wolves, sir?

868
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 2: And the admiral says yes, why And the guy goes,

869
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:16,320
I've got a telegram that will bring him in if

870
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,079
you give it to him. So, like, if you want

871
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:20,400
to give it to him, this is going to get

872
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,119
them in the fucking war.

873
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, tomorrow.

874
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: When Wilson receives the telegram, apparently what he said was

875
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,079
oh lord, oh Lord, oh.

876
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,559
Speaker 1: Lord, oh Lord, that's the best he's got.

877
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,159
Speaker 2: Maybe for the time, it was more than that. Come on,

878
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,440
taking the lord's name in vain. Was he still anti women?

879
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

880
00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: They weren't voting yet. He's like, we might be in

881
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,360
a war any day, dude, I can't just give you

882
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,239
a vote right now, yeah, kidd, mean, you know how

883
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,119
many moms will vote against that don't want to send

884
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:54,760
their kids over. The dads will be like, hell yeah

885
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,599
soon good in there.

886
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: Some moms might yeah, depend on which kid.

887
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: Second, third, he just tell us in the first. So

888
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,760
Wilson was freaked out because he had just won his

889
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,599
second term in office very narrowly on the platform of

890
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,199
he kept us out of the wall.

891
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:17,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's what he ran on. He was like,

892
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:20,360
we're not in the wall because of Woodrow Wilson. Hard

893
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,119
to go back on that.

894
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:23,639
Speaker 2: He was like, and this is like right after he won.

895
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:25,960
This is nineteen seventeen, so he's just like, oh my

896
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,760
fucking god.

897
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,519
Speaker 1: He's the peacetime president. Anyway.

898
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:35,519
Speaker 2: Zimmerman, also in the telegram, was like, and by the way, dude,

899
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,960
you don't even have to worry about New Mexico. He's like,

900
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,719
you don't have to worry about the British Navy or nothing,

901
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,840
because like, we're about to do unrestricted submarine warfare again,

902
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,639
he says. This is in the telegram. He's like, we're

903
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:48,320
about to restart the telegram that the British intercept. Yeah,

904
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,559
like we're about to restart unrestricted submarine warfare and it's

905
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,239
gonna knock England out like immediately, So they're like about

906
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,599
to lose, So like we're gonna be able to like

907
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,960
help you crush thee Is.

908
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,639
Speaker 1: Think the British Navy could handle submarines, I mean the

909
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:03,400
submarines were a real fucking problem.

910
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they were, and the British Navy did have

911
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,440
trouble handling them. The British Navy had no trouble handling

912
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,719
the German surface Navy and they completely fucked them up.

913
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,159
Speaker 1: Well navy, Yeah, it's probably the best of the best

914
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,079
at that time.

915
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, by far. There wasn't even a close second,

916
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,320
like it was. Probably the US Navy would have been

917
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,880
second maybe, and maybe the Japanese Navy as well, because

918
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,280
they had a really good navy. So the British gets

919
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,199
this telegram and they're like, fuck yes, it has been

920
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,360
impossible to get America into the war, specifically Woodrow Wilson,

921
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:41,920
who the British were like every fucking time, like they

922
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,519
sank the Lusitania, there were Americans on it, and he

923
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:48,599
just wriggles his way out, just fucking like pussy foots

924
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:52,639
around and somehow finds a way to not commit to

925
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,719
fucking anything.

926
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,559
Speaker 1: Okay, So now you're talking meant this being a British scam.

927
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,519
We'll get to that. This is, you know, they sunk

928
00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:03,559
the Lucid and then they're creating this fake telegram in

929
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:08,039
the war. It's British propaganda. We got played the end.

930
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: We'll get to that. So a month after Wilson was

931
00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:15,719
a month Wilson sits on this for a month, talking

932
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,280
to his people, figuring out what to do. He's finding like,

933
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,280
we don't have a choice. We have to release the

934
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,320
telegram to the press, like we have to tell people

935
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,920
what happened. So he gives the tell He gives a

936
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,800
translation of the telegram to the AP at the request

937
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,320
of the British government. He did not say how they

938
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,000
came into possession of it, because the British government didn't

939
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,239
want Americans to know that they were spying on American cables.

940
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:43,599
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be great for them.

941
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:45,679
Speaker 2: That would be that wouldn't be great for the British.

942
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,119
That would piss off a lot of Americans. Yeah, so

943
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:50,360
I think they came up with a story.

944
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: Even though we spy on all of our allies now,

945
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:57,079
same things they do each other. Yeah, constantly, we don't

946
00:48:57,079 --> 00:48:59,119
trust each other. We should be a more trust in world.

947
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,119
You know, you want to know, don't even trust our

948
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:04,199
own agencies inside the country, And yeah, I know, shit,

949
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,599
they don't share information. It's half the reason nine to

950
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:11,000
eleven happened. Even if you aren't like fully bought into

951
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,480
any conspiracy with nine to eleven, the reason they weren't

952
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,599
able to stop is because the FBI, the CIA, everybody

953
00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:18,960
had different information on the attacks, but they were not shared.

954
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: No one wants to get a caller together.

955
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:23,039
Speaker 1: No, they want their own collar. They want to get

956
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:25,239
they want to get the credit for stopping the bads.

957
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,320
It's free market intelligence agency. Everybody wants they have the

958
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:29,840
upper end.

959
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: So I think the British gave him a cover story

960
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,079
that they bribed a Mexican tele telegraph clerk for the copy.

961
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:40,280
So most Americans were pissed when this telegram was published,

962
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,559
but a lot also thought that it was, as one

963
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:49,400
might say at the time, fake and gay.

964
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: It was fake but a good time.

965
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fake but happy. Okay, Yeah, No, they're like,

966
00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:00,559
this is a conspiracy, this is fake. US papers, specially

967
00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:05,880
papers owned by Hearst. He owned quite a few, were like,

968
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,719
this is bullshit, this is British propaganda. This is British

969
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,159
intelligence trying to get the US into the war. George

970
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:20,480
Verrich of The New York Weekly called the telegram a hoax,

971
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,280
said it read like a dime novel. He said, quote

972
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,519
the alleged letter of authors Immment is obviously faked. It

973
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,639
is impossible to believe that a German foreign secretary would

974
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:35,039
place his name under such a preposterous document. A New

975
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:38,440
York congressman is pretty dumb. It's dumb as shit.

976
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: There's no way somebody that high up, a German official,

977
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,199
one of the highest ranking German, could make such a

978
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:52,039
buffoonery out of this telegram.

979
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,639
Speaker 2: And it's it's that is plausible, right. There's no fucking way.

980
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,800
They're not this stupid.

981
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: There's no fucking way chegure it out. What if they are, well,

982
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:00,519
get to that.

983
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:05,559
Speaker 2: A German newspaper called The Saint Louis America America with

984
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:10,159
a K said we have no hesitation in declaring the

985
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:14,079
supposed note of Zimmerman a forgery. The New York Times

986
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:18,559
summarized the views of conspiracists by saying they credit the

987
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:21,199
forgery to the English government, which they saw consumed by

988
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:23,239
the desire to force this country into the war. On

989
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,400
the side of the Allies. Claims that it was fake

990
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,760
were so strong that the Secretary of State had to

991
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,360
have the Senate do an inquiry into that. He was like,

992
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,239
we got to see if this is.

993
00:51:38,159 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: Fake or not, Like, this is crazy.

994
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: The administration assured the senators that the Zimerman letter was legit,

995
00:51:48,519 --> 00:51:50,079
but they were like, we got it. We can't tell

996
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:52,480
you how we got it, but it's legit. Not a

997
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:53,440
great way to pitch it.

998
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,599
Speaker 1: You can't give up your sources, yeah, you know.

999
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 2: But everyone at that, I mean, if you're going to

1000
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,159
get into a war, you need to be like, I

1001
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:04,559
want to know every fucking detail of how we got this.

1002
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: You got a nut up and just be like, hey,

1003
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:09,960
we're just checking in on you guys. Yeah, this is

1004
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:11,880
this is what we got. Yeah, now they said.

1005
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: Essentially, the administration was like, we can't give up the

1006
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,880
sources because their spies. Well they were like, we can't.

1007
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:21,199
They claimed this is not accurate, but they told them

1008
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,519
they lied and said we can't give up the sources

1009
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:28,519
because it will endanger their lives like their spies. No,

1010
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:30,719
it wouldn't. It was just dudes in a fucking room

1011
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:31,239
in London.

1012
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: It technically put their lives in danger. I guess it

1013
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,320
more danger it picks off. The Americans are on the

1014
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:36,880
wrong side.

1015
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even the people who knew the telegram was

1016
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,000
legit looked to each other like, who knew it was legit?

1017
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,840
The British, the Americans who knew it was legit, We're

1018
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,239
looking around at each other like they can't be this

1019
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:59,400
fucking stupid. The German press in Germany, they didn't know

1020
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,280
if it was real or not, but they were all

1021
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,159
in on the idea. They were like, you know what,

1022
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,679
hell yeah, fuck the German Germany Mexico. That combo will

1023
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,960
fuck the US up.

1024
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1025
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,639
Speaker 2: They were like, the Mexicans hate America. They're gonna fight

1026
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,280
like Spartans, like they're gonna they're gonna go in there

1027
00:53:16,599 --> 00:53:20,840
and just fuck them up. Yeah, like they've always hated

1028
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,119
them ever since the Mexican War, and and a German

1029
00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:27,960
German Mexico alliance will do it. And also they were

1030
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,000
also like all the Germans in America will join the Mexicans.

1031
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Quite a few Germans here in Texas, a lot of

1032
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,920
Germans in text a lot of Germans in texts.

1033
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone was saying this, but intelligence experts around the world,

1034
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,760
even those on the central power side, were like Germany,

1035
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:53,599
Germany knows Mexico doesn't have an army, right like they

1036
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:56,400
they don't, they don't, and they definitely don't have a

1037
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,079
navy like they know they do.

1038
00:53:59,159 --> 00:54:00,559
Speaker 1: They understand any of this.

1039
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,039
Speaker 2: No, this goes on for like a month and everyone's

1040
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:08,280
freaking out about it, freaking out about the letter or

1041
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,960
the telegram, and they're like, is this real? Isn't this real?

1042
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:13,760
They can't be that stupid, right, It's got to be British,

1043
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:14,559
a British op.

1044
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: What is going on? This is syop This is syop like,

1045
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:19,719
or like, what the fuck?

1046
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 2: How can they be this stupid? The German officials see

1047
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,360
this all play out in real time. All they have

1048
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,159
to do, all they have to do is deny it,

1049
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,400
say now as a British and that fucked up, and

1050
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:38,360
that fucked up.

1051
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: They're playing mind games on your brain.

1052
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,119
Speaker 2: And then you dare the British to tell to tell

1053
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:46,519
the Americans, no, it's real, but we're spying on your communications.

1054
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:51,320
And that's how we found it. On Tuesday, March thirtieth,

1055
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:57,000
Zimmerman because his name, it's called the Zimerman Telegram already

1056
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,320
he has to answer answer to the Reichstag, to six

1057
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,360
hundred delegates and give an account of what happened. He

1058
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,760
could get up there lie and deny it, and Zimmermann

1059
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:15,119
did deny. He denied that he did anything wrong.

1060
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: Okay, he doubled down.

1061
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:23,039
Speaker 2: Problem doubled down. He said, he issued quote secret instructions.

1062
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: I don't like a guy that goes halfway, So you know,

1063
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,559
if he's gonna do the wrong thing, at least double down.

1064
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:30,480
That makes sense. Let's do it. Let's get into it.

1065
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: He gave instruction, he said ultimittly wrong. He gave instructions

1066
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,920
that he believed were totally secure, and he was like,

1067
00:55:38,039 --> 00:55:39,840
I didn't expect the Americans to get.

1068
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: It, but I'm glad they did.

1069
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: He triples down and says it's the American's fault for

1070
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:53,119
reacting the way they reacted, because he said it was

1071
00:55:53,159 --> 00:55:56,760
a totally innocent telegram and it was basically he was like, oh,

1072
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:57,960
I told Mexico was that.

1073
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: If we go to.

1074
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: War with America, wasn't serious, We'll team up with you

1075
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:08,320
to invade America. I didn't say we were gonna invade America.

1076
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,039
I said, if America enters the war, will help you

1077
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:13,960
kill Americans and invade America.

1078
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:16,039
Speaker 1: We were testing the waters. We were just trying to

1079
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:20,599
get some feedback, you know, yeah, seeing how they were

1080
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:21,320
gonna react.

1081
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: He said it was total normal diplomatic protocol to float

1082
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,159
the idea of invading a country.

1083
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: That, yeah, Mexico was down to invade you guys. We

1084
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,800
just wanted to give you the heads up. We did

1085
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,159
this totally to warn you about Mexico. Yeah. Well, here's

1086
00:56:35,199 --> 00:56:35,519
the thing.

1087
00:56:36,039 --> 00:56:39,119
Speaker 2: Mexico wasn't down because they read the telegram and and

1088
00:56:39,199 --> 00:56:41,239
like the President of Mexico for his name, gave it

1089
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,239
to his top general and was like, will you just

1090
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,679
look over this to see if it's like plausible even

1091
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,559
And the general came back like a day later and

1092
00:56:48,679 --> 00:56:52,159
was like, no, no, there's no fucking way. There's no

1093
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:52,760
fucking way.

1094
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, own your mistakes, on your your thoughts. Yeah, but

1095
00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:57,440
just say their strengths.

1096
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: Actually, he said that the Americans un leashed a witch

1097
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,440
hunt against Germany, that they had acted shamelessly, and that

1098
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,840
ever since the telegram came out, Wilson wouldn't even talk

1099
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,559
to the German ambassador, proving that they are the assholes.

1100
00:57:14,119 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so he gets up.

1101
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: In front of the Reichstag in public when all when

1102
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,920
people didn't even believe it was real, and we're like,

1103
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,320
we're not getting into the war, we don't think this

1104
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,920
is real, and was like, yeah, it's real.

1105
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: But you guys are the dicks. It's like when I

1106
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,280
sent a letter to your wife saying she should kill you,

1107
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,360
and yeah, run away with me. You took that serious. Yes,

1108
00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:43,320
that's kind of on you.

1109
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: It is.

1110
00:57:45,719 --> 00:57:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm just joking, man, Yeah, I'm just fucking around. I

1111
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,840
wanted you to find that letter. Yeah, it's so you

1112
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,360
would work harder to be a better husband.

1113
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: One week after that speech, the US declared war on Germany,

1114
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,679
and not, by by the way.

1115
00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: A week a week later, what it takes so long?

1116
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: You gotta get Congress together, because, by the way, this

1117
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:11,079
is not a you know, like a George Bush whatever

1118
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:13,239
type of war where it's just like we're sending people

1119
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,679
over and Congress can like kind of vote on it,

1120
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:18,840
but we're not gonna do a declaration of war. Congress

1121
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,079
declared war and I think by a large margin. Let

1122
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:23,760
me look it up.

1123
00:58:24,239 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think anyone's sitting this one out.

1124
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see what the vote was. It

1125
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,320
was eighty two to six in the Senate, six and

1126
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,760
three seventy three to fifty in the House.

1127
00:58:36,639 --> 00:58:39,679
Speaker 1: Eighty two war Hawks.

1128
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,119
Speaker 2: So a week after Zimmerman's like, yeah, six Germans. Yeah,

1129
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:46,119
a week after Zimmerman was like, yeah, it was real.

1130
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:48,559
What about it? You guys are the assholes.

1131
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: We declare war and the rest is history. Yeah. Now

1132
00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:56,280
what happens to Zimmerman.

1133
00:58:57,159 --> 00:59:01,639
Speaker 2: He dies peacefully in nineteen forty, But he did do one.

1134
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: Other thing in Nazi Germany. Yeah, all right, he did

1135
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:06,800
do one other thing.

1136
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:13,559
Speaker 2: That was pretty smart in the short term, probably fuck

1137
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:14,840
Germany in the long term.

1138
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he also got to die when he thought

1139
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,199
Germany was on the top. Yeah he did. He did

1140
00:59:19,239 --> 00:59:21,559
die thinking Germany was on to Germany just taking over

1141
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:25,639
in the forties, so early forties when he dies, so yeah,

1142
00:59:25,679 --> 00:59:28,920
he's like, I did what I needed to do. My

1143
00:59:29,039 --> 00:59:32,440
country is great. Where a world with the world power? Now?

1144
00:59:32,599 --> 00:59:36,360
Yeah you listen here? Yeah, and he just kind of

1145
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:40,599
evaporated into like a Jedi like Yoda Sky. Yeah.

1146
00:59:41,239 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: So Zimman did one other thing of World War One

1147
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:49,039
that was helpful to the Germans at the time, fuck them, basically.

1148
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: Right after they died.

1149
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,079
Speaker 2: Right after he died, he coordinated peace with the Russians

1150
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:58,199
to close the Eastern Front to allow Germany to focus

1151
00:59:58,519 --> 00:59:59,800
solely on the Western Front.

1152
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: Well, it's all quiet on the Western Front.

1153
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:06,719
Speaker 2: It was never quiet on that. It's funny that. That's

1154
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,039
a funny title. I don't KNOWMB why they're taught of that,

1155
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:11,440
I guess because at the end of it, it's quiet.

1156
01:00:14,119 --> 01:00:17,639
After that guy I forget his name, and kott Diest

1157
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:24,599
cought so. No part of the peace that he worked

1158
01:00:24,599 --> 01:00:29,400
out with the Russians was and this was I believe

1159
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:36,039
his terms was sending Lenin and the other Communists to

1160
01:00:36,079 --> 01:00:39,360
allow them to pass through Germany and get back to Russia.

1161
01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: M hm. He set it up a little communist highway.

1162
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then obviously Lenin takes over Stalin succeeds him

1163
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,199
and kills and rapes more Germans than literally anyone, a

1164
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:55,760
little Bolshevik road. Yeah. So worked out for him as

1165
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:02,400
far as he knew, but not so much right after

1166
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,639
he died. Yeah, but that is uh, that is the

1167
01:01:06,639 --> 01:01:10,119
story of the Zenerman Telegram. So stupid, No one believed it,

1168
01:01:11,519 --> 01:01:14,119
so stupid that half the country thought it was a

1169
01:01:14,159 --> 01:01:19,000
conspiracy theory until this man came out and was like, yeah,

1170
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:19,400
I did it.

1171
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: Fuck you took his nuts, put him on the table,

1172
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,840
and he's like, my fellow Germans, this is your issue now.

1173
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,639
Speaker 2: I feel like it's like cheating on your wife and

1174
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:34,119
then being like you weren't emotionally available to me m hm,

1175
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,199
which is, by the way, what I told my wife

1176
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:39,400
last week when Rory won the Masters, and I was like,

1177
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,719
it's such a cool story. He deserved it, and like

1178
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,719
he's been working for it forever. And then she said

1179
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,920
some of her friends told her after I told her

1180
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,400
that that Rory had cheated on his wife.

1181
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: His wife, yeah, and she was like.

1182
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,079
Speaker 2: So She's like, actually, I don't like the story anymore.

1183
01:01:53,079 --> 01:01:55,480
He's a scumbag and I just sexed her back. He

1184
01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:58,800
sexed her back, she wasn't emotionally available to him.

1185
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: Hey got they worked and she goes go back together,

1186
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,039
it's a happy end, and she goes, what the fuck

1187
01:02:03,079 --> 01:02:04,960
does that mean? And I go, I'm just telling you

1188
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,039
what I heard. Yeah, your friends heard that. My friends

1189
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:13,599
heard his wife wasn't around much. Yeah, wasn't wasn't there

1190
01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:15,840
for him, even though he's on the road.

1191
01:02:15,639 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: Golf is a lonely sport. Yeah, but yeah, that's all

1192
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,679
I got for today. What did you learn about the

1193
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:23,000
about Zimmerman and the Zimmerman Telegram?

1194
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: I like that. I just like that a guy doubles

1195
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,039
down on his own mistakes and never admits defeat, a

1196
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:32,840
mistake that got millions of people killed. Yeah, never backtracked,

1197
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,360
never backpedal, Never go back on your word.

1198
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a lie if you believe it, you're

1199
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,599
only wrong if you say you're wrong.

1200
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,119
Speaker 1: Push forward.

1201
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,639
Speaker 2: I learned, and I'm gonna have to do a whole

1202
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:48,280
episode on this now. Now. William Randolph Hurst is one

1203
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,000
of the worst Americans to ever live.

1204
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,519
Speaker 1: Dude, where have you been? I feel like you would

1205
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:55,519
consider that hack for the episode. That's like such a

1206
01:02:55,559 --> 01:02:59,360
normal like conspiracy. I knew he was like a shitty guy,

1207
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,400
but I didn't realize how shitty he was. And like

1208
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:06,119
every dude you know has cursed out William RANDOLPHI yeah,

1209
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:06,960
fair enough, facity.

1210
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:11,079
Speaker 2: I also learned today, and I already knew this because

1211
01:03:11,079 --> 01:03:13,840
we've done other episodes like this, But like, if you

1212
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,280
look at the news now, no matter what side of

1213
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,599
the political alle' on, and you see everyone responding to

1214
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:24,000
things like that's a conspiracy. This is a conspiracy. That's

1215
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,039
a conspiracy. Not new if you think you live in

1216
01:03:26,039 --> 01:03:29,159
some cursed time where no one believes what they.

1217
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: Hear, the worst time to ever live in human history.

1218
01:03:32,039 --> 01:03:34,079
It's the best, it's the best, it's the best.

1219
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:39,119
Speaker 2: People have always reacted this way. That is, we look

1220
01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:41,119
back on it now and they're like, that's concrete shit

1221
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,679
dog the Zooman telegram, open and shut fucking case.

1222
01:03:46,199 --> 01:03:49,599
Speaker 1: Mmmm. I think it's propaganda. But he admitted it.

1223
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: He admitted it.

1224
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: I think he just wanted the credit. What his name

1225
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,480
on the telegram. At least he's remembered for something. Remember

1226
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:04,559
there's plenty of German officials at that time that you

1227
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:05,000
don't remember.

1228
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:07,719
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy, this guy's gonna be live in

1229
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,719
the Cocoa afterlife for a long time.

1230
01:04:10,159 --> 01:04:13,519
Speaker 1: Nobody's forgetting his name the ethers of time. Well, remember Zimmerman,

1231
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,960
who's today is Hitler. I want to say British intelligence

1232
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,000
for spye on. I mean the Germans were probably doing

1233
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,280
that too, but I would hope so the.

1234
01:04:22,239 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: British, those shady motherfuck And by the way, that is

1235
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:25,639
the other funny thing.

1236
01:04:25,679 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: But like the British is supposed to be on our side.

1237
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:30,159
That is the other funny thing is that like we

1238
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,199
I don't think the Germans ever had an allegiance to us.

1239
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,719
We're like, we're like cool with us. I don't know

1240
01:04:37,719 --> 01:04:39,559
if we had like some type of packed at this point.

1241
01:04:39,559 --> 01:04:41,159
I'm sure we did it closer with the British.

1242
01:04:41,199 --> 01:04:44,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, way we weren't. Like, we didn't dislike Germany prior

1243
01:04:44,639 --> 01:04:45,480
to that, and.

1244
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,039
Speaker 1: We should have beef with the British. They're oldest fee right.

1245
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 2: It is just funny to me that like even the

1246
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,400
people who were on the right side of history and

1247
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:03,199
like releasing the telegram still lied aw required a ship ton.

1248
01:05:04,199 --> 01:05:05,880
They wouldn't tell the whole truth no matter what.

1249
01:05:07,679 --> 01:05:10,159
Speaker 1: It has a happy ending, it doesn't. Yeah, millions of

1250
01:05:10,159 --> 01:05:13,159
people die in that war. Yeah, but the good guys

1251
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,239
won maybe America.

1252
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1253
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: Wilhelm's tiny, weak ass hand, his dead baby hand, couldn't

1254
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:26,320
couldn't get it done. Nope, what became a Wilhelm? He

1255
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,480
retired to. Not a whole lot of guys that lose

1256
01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:30,480
wars get to retire.

1257
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he retired to like Denmark, I think, and he

1258
01:05:34,519 --> 01:05:37,719
actually he was still alive when the Germans conquered France

1259
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,239
in World War Two. He died during World War two

1260
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:44,480
when will Kaiser Wilhelm was he a Hitler.

1261
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:47,719
Speaker 1: Fan, he sent a congratulatory letter. I thought he had

1262
01:05:47,719 --> 01:05:48,559
be with them, though.

1263
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:52,599
Speaker 2: He died in nineteen forty one. He retired to the Netherlands, and.

1264
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:55,039
Speaker 1: So Wilhelm also got to see Germany on top.

1265
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sent Hitler like a letter whatever, congratulating him

1266
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,079
or I think, but either way he died.

1267
01:06:01,159 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: I do remember that, but I also remember him and

1268
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:05,800
Hitler just like not see an eyed eye at all. Oh,

1269
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:06,599
Hitler hate him.

1270
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: So when he died, the people in the German high command,

1271
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:11,599
including Hitler, were just like ripping on him. Yeah, Like

1272
01:06:11,639 --> 01:06:13,159
when they found out he died, they were just like,

1273
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,760
fucking loser, ass bitch, We're getting it, We're getting it

1274
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,719
done right, Fuck this old bitch.

1275
01:06:19,679 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: And they made their way to Argentina.

1276
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,519
Speaker 2: It's like a guy come like an old guy coming

1277
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:25,440
back to his frat, being like you got to crush

1278
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,880
you did, and everyone's like, God, he's.

1279
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: His old fuck. Why is this thirty year old in

1280
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,119
the house. Yeah, please leave. God, dude, get the fuck

1281
01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:33,800
out of here. That would be embarrassed to go back

1282
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,639
to a fratorney house right now, I would go back

1283
01:06:36,679 --> 01:06:39,800
to like take a piss. No, that's about it. I'm

1284
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:40,679
not entering the house.

1285
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: No, that's like the best part about it. Like you

1286
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,159
just can go back and be like, I gotta take

1287
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:47,119
a dump. Here's the handshake.

1288
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,239
Speaker 1: I would rather poop my pants then go back to

1289
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:51,840
the frat house.

1290
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:52,639
Speaker 2: You can have a house.

1291
01:06:53,079 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: We do have a house.

1292
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: Didn't you just rent it?

1293
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: Now?

1294
01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: Were in the house, okay, I don't know if.

1295
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,719
Speaker 1: It was like the Ato house we shot at and

1296
01:06:59,719 --> 01:07:02,320
said no, no, it was in the Greek ghetto. But okay,

1297
01:07:03,559 --> 01:07:07,159
we might not have a house now, you know. Yeah,

1298
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,920
some we did some German stuff. I heard some stuff. Yeah,

1299
01:07:11,239 --> 01:07:15,519
like this year, very very World War two German stuff though, okay,

1300
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:20,320
so the fun stuff, yeah, fair enough, the trained Germans,

1301
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,679
the train Germans. All right, that's all I got for today.

1302
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: For Damna Jester, I'm Rob Fox.

1303
01:07:26,639 --> 01:07:27,519
Speaker 1: You just got saucer.