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Speaker 1: Made a decision.

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Speaker 2: Sunny SUNI on ahead of vision.

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Speaker 1: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Everybody? Welcome to for crying out loud. It's Friday, It's

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our Friday show. And I still have Tamra mellow here.

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It's not mellow. There's no w at the end of now.

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Speaker 2: It's actually a super common Portuguese name.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Smith in Portugal. Yeah, and in Brazil too,

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Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: Funny?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like there's no Portuguese people on the

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on the West coast, so it's like if I go

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east coast, everybody is like, oh, you're Portuguese.

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Speaker 1: Is that funny? That is really funny.

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Speaker 2: And in Toronto too, there's like a big Portuguese population,

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so everybody like recognizes that name.

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Speaker 1: That is really really funny. Years ago, I worked at

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an Argentinian restaurant and there was a girl from Las

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No Gaucho girl okay, and there was a girl that

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named her named Catalina. Catalina maybe I don't know. She

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spoke Portuguese and she was always like trying to teach

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me Portuguese and I never caught on to any of it.

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But yeah, the manager of the restaurant was super hot,

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and I really liked him, and I forgot where he

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was from. But he really had a crush on this girl,

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the Portuguese girl, and he didn't like me, I think

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because honestly because I was white. But he did have

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sex with me on the floor of the kitchen, so

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nice of him. It was so nice of him to tea.

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He would have literally he would have sex with me,

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but he was he would not date me, and I

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think it was really a matter of, like, I'm not

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somebody he could bring home to mom. But I was

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a wee bit of an alcoholic back in those days.

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I don't know if you can imagine. So I would

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allow like I loved like I thought he was so

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so cute, and we had all these private jokes, and

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this was my personality back then well and probably still

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would be if I was single, but I would have

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to be. I would pine for people, right I was

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just like I would want the ones that didn't want me,

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but that wanted me a tiny.

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Speaker 3: Bit right right right right right, not that didn't want

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me at the right way exactly exactly, And then I

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would strategize and I would come into work like looking

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really cute, and I would figure out like how to

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flirt but keep it subtle but not be like too obvious.

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Speaker 1: And the funny thing is he actually really liked me

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when I first got high, but I had a boyfriend.

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I was living with this guy, and then the guy

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pretty soon after broke up with me and moved to Italy,

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and then I was single. And now I now it

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turned around and I wanted this guy, but so did

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the other girl, so.

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Speaker 2: She wanted him to. Yeah, it wasn't just.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, they dated, okay, all right, but he still

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slept with me, you know, because he's sweet. Yeah, he

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was nice. He was sweet. I don't know, because I

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think that I only found out that he was also

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sleeping with her and liked her after the fact, so

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and he denied it to me, of course. So what

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would happen is I'd go into work, he would kind

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of flirt with me during the shift, and then I

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would hope I would try to be the closing server.

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Oh okay, and they can hang out as a manager, yes,

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And then we would do this little dance of like

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I'm marrying the ketchup, almost done, it's almost time to close,

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and then somehow like we'd go in the back kitchen

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and like we'd we'd start drinking wine and then like

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I had sex with them a couple of times on

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the floor of the kitchen. Nice, nice, sassy, super flossy.

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Speaker 2: This is vanber Pump rules. Oh you were totally vander

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pump ruling it, just on a smaller scale.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of a bit of a hussy back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Same, I would put up with really bad like I

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would definitely put up with no great behavior. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that this comes from like not the best upbringing,

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like just to need for attention, no matter what kind

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of attention it is.

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Speaker 1: M hm hm. Let mesk you.

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Speaker 2: This, thanks Mom and dad.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this about about acting. I'm always

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so fascinated, you know, with your career. In case anybody

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doesn't know, we've discussed your career at length on other episodes,

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so I hope people understand that this. I'm not interviewing

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you because you've been on before, so I'm treating it

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like you know, Lynette, right, like.

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Speaker 2: We're just talking on going conversations and.

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Speaker 1: I'm going conversation. But I am curious as to whether

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and there's a lot of like fucked up actresses, am

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I right. Yeah, when you got into acting and you

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started to get some success in acting, did you find

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that becoming a little bit famous or I don't know

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if you ever felt like famous famous, but we've talked

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about it, but there's been periods where you were like

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getting asked for your autograph and getting recognized. Did that

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heal any of your inner wounds?

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Speaker 2: No? No, not at all. No, there is this, like

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I think it's the reason people go into acting to

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begin with.

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Speaker 1: It's this need for validation.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's an unfillable hole, you know, like the

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more you get, the more you want. So like there's

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no amount of fame or accolades that is ever going

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to fill that hole that was created by your parents.

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Speaker 1: So were you getting any therapy at the time, did

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you even think you needed it? Like did you what

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was your mindset at the time, because you were pretty

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young when you started getting going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was youngish. I mostly looked a

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lot younger than I was.

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Speaker 1: But you were college age, yeah, so yeah, I didn't

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mean young like a child, like a child actress. Yeah,

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but it was twenties, definitely.

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Speaker 2: It was young for thinking, hey, maybe I should get

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some therapy. But I did start therapy probably in my

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late twenties, thank god, because I mean, listen, we all

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we all need therapy. I'm a big believer in therapy.

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But yeah, I mean I had like unchecked anxiety ahead depression,

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like as we've talked about, like I have bipolar disorder,

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but it you know, it wouldn't be diagnosed for many,

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many years after I had started therapy. But eventually, I

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think what happened, at least for me, is when I

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had my son, that need for validation went away. I

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didn't need it anymore. I had this this person in

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my life that I loved more than anything, and I

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just wanted to give him everything that I didn't have,

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and that was very healing for me.

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Speaker 1: That's so sweet. Did you do you Did you feel

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like that right away or did you have like a

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lot of us have a lot of anxiety at the beginning,

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like oh my god, I'm going to fuck this up.

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I don't know if I'm doing this right.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I still feel that way sometimes,

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but I remember, like I one of the things that

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I was talking to my therapist about I was in

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a serious relationship and I was thinking about having kids.

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and I said, I don't I don't know that I'm

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going to be a good mom. I don't know that

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I have the best example. And I'm really really afraid of,

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you know, just just not being a good mom, of

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of not having the tools, like I haven't been given

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the tools to know how to do this job. And

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she said, you know, I think what happens for a

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lot of people is that a lot of like the

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heal the trauma from their past gets healed when they

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have children of their own, Like, you're not necessarily going

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to pass it on to your kids. It's actually going

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to maybe be a healing moment for both of you.

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Speaker 1: And it was.

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Speaker 2: But I think, you know, if you don't have therapy,

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you may not have that mindset going in.

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Speaker 1: We hopefully you will.

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Speaker 2: But I think, you know, there's so much trauma that's

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passed on, so much generational trauma, that if we don't

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get a hold of it, we're just going to keep

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perpetuating it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, you know, I was. I got

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some of my best therapy with the best therapist I

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ever had, right before I got pregnant and married. I'm

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so grateful for that, because she's the one that said, listen,

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just you just do it, like if you if you're

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scared to not have a child, then just have one.

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therapy did kind of end with her. But and at

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the beginning was so hard. But do you feel I mean,

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I know, and I was just talking to somebody else

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about this too. I definitely think I overcompensate for a

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lot of what I wasn't given. And I'm always trying

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to check in with myself, like am I doing too much?

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Am I not doing enough? Am I what's that sweet

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spot of parenting? But you know, I was talking to

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and I told you this, but this was a Patreon

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that I did. But you know the situation that happened

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where I sent a text to the wrong person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

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So I was talking to some young kids, some like

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high school kids, one girl that just graduated, some friends

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of my kids, and I was telling them the situation.

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had told the situation to just the other night the kids,

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the kids had a show, and she said whatever what

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ended up happening with that situation. And I told her

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and I said, you know, I ended up like just apologizing,

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like just owning it. And she was like, you know, honestly,

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like that is that's the best. And I said and

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I said, and I tried. I tried. She goes, it's

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the hardest thing to do, but it's actually always works

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out the best if you like just apologize, I know.

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like as a parent too, and she goes, oh my gosh,

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I love it when my mom apologizes. Yeah, it's such

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a good example. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I was like, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like I like hearing that feedback from somebody else's kid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because sometimes you wonder like, oh, well, you don't

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want to, I don't know, seem weak or like make

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make them. There's all these things that go through my

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head all the time. It's almost like dog training, right,

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They okay, if you let them, if you give them

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an inch, or if you let them know that you

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don't meant necessarily that you make mistakes or don't know

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what you're doing, then they're not going to respect you

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or whatever. But I don't necessarily think that's true. I

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think if you can say, like I don't always know

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what I'm doing and I made a mistake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. You know, it's interesting. I was

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reading a.

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Speaker 1: Study earlier that.

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Speaker 2: It was a study done on like parenting within class.

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economic background were better behaved. They didn't they didn't talk

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back to their their parents as much. They tended to

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be a little more creative and autonomous because they don't

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have their you know, their parents are busy working, like

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trying to put food on the table, so so kids

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are left to their own devices more. And I thought

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it was interesting because like kids that came from a

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more middle class background were much more contentious, argued with

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their parents a lot more, had way more structured time

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because they're doing karate, they're doing soccer, they're doing ballet,

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and so they find that they're they're not quite as autonomous.

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but they're not as sort of creative with their time.

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and I talk about overcompensating, it's like, of course I

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want my kid to play soccer of course I want

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my kid to like play a musical instrument because I

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didn't have that stuff, so I'm going to pile it

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on my kid. And I just I thought it was

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they said, the ones that came from a more structured

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upbringing tended to be more organized.

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Speaker 1: So interesting. Yeah.

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the study, but I did think it was an interesting

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you know, left to my own devices during the summer,

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and I read like that's all I had to do.

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we didn't have anything, so I just read books. And

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so I think that there's something too, like allowing a

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kid to be bored.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I I'm the same way latchkey kid,

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and I read and read and read and read. And

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that's what I credit being an author too. Yeah, because

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no college, so you know, but I have pretty good grammar.

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I have, but it's all from just reading books. And

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it's not from high school either or junior high because

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I was reading books in front of my textbook right right, right,

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right right, novels, Judy Bloom books like you know, Flowers

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in the Attic, I mean, nothing highbrow like I was.

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age where we were reading Flowers in the Attic, which

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is so fucked up that is it a trilogy?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I think there's like eight of them.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's just incest, child abuse, like like twelve

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year old sex. Like It's insane to me that we

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were allowed to read these books and maybe encouraged.

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Speaker 1: I mean because they were like, good you're reading.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like it was those books that I was into.

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And then there was this author.

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Speaker 1: Called John Saul. Oh my god, yes you remember, yes

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John Saul. Of course, yeah. He wrote like horror books,

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like thriller horror books.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like also I feel like they had like

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sort of like young adult themes, but they were not

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for young adults. They were for full grown adults, and

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somehow we got our hands on them.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'd forgotten about John Saul.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you kind of want to reread them now.

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Speaker 1: I want to go look at what the like, I

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swear to god, I want to go see like what

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some of the big titles were, John, I don't remember

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at all, but they were, like, I feel like there's

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something about like Rocking the Cradle, retro horror, that's what

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it was. Cry for the Strangers was a movie he.

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Speaker 2: Did, Rye for the Strangers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, coming on, Oh remember this one, Comes the Blind Fury.

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Oh yes, Oh, here's the one. Suffer the Children. That

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was nineteen seventy seven, and then in the eighties comes

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the Blind, Come the Blind Fury. Yeah, I think so.

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The God Project was nineteen eighty two, Creature.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember those, but I feel like Suffer the Children.

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Speaker 1: That was his most first break and it.

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Speaker 2: Was was were those like a trilogy? Was it Children's Strangers?

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Was Cry for the Strangers? I feel like those were

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somehow connected.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, I think so, But Suffer the

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Children was the well it says it was the first

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and a long line of best sellers that have.

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Speaker 2: Been rereading that. I'm totally rereading it. Let's see it

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holds up.

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Speaker 1: It probably does not. I mean, that's just so funny.

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But I was reading at that age too, like all

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the Stephen King I read everything I read.

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Speaker 2: I read Carnal Knowledge, in the sixth grade because I

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found it on my dad's nightstand. Oh this is about

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like oh, and also like Fear of Flying. Oh my god,

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there's a jocket. Yeah, Like my mom had that like

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tossing around. I guess I'll get my hands on that

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at ten. Fear of Flying, which just like full on porn, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it had definitely had sex in it because she

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was like a feminist. Yeah. I think she crazd the

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phrase the zipless fuck.

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Speaker 2: Yes she did, Yes, she did. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yes, my mom had that book and I read it

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too off her, Like all of these books were on

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our bookshelf. Yeah, and I always like busting through all

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my library books and then looking on the shelves to

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see what else to read.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and no one monitored, which I think is good.

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Like I remember Grayson read it The Stephen King and

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it's like thousands of teaches when he was like in

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fifth or sixth grade. And I had other parents coming

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to me and being like, do you realize your son

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is reading this book and there's like teenage sex in it.

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There's da da da, And I'm like, my kid's reading

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a book with two thousand pages in it. It's fine,

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he'll felt censor. I'm not going to take it away

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from him. But it's also it's like my true business

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sixth grade parent.

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Speaker 1: It's funny though, because I remember reading I read like

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Judy Bloom's book, Wifey, which was I just saw something

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about the fact that that was a full on, like

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porn book. I had to have read that at like

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thirteen or fourteen, maybe.

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Speaker 2: Probably read it like after Tiger Eyes Why See was nice?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the I was gonna say, but then I

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didn't lose my virginity till I was like nineteen. It's

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not like I was. There's this correlation with like, oh

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now I know about sex. It's like whatever, I read

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all these books.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Another one that I read kind of young that went

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around my high school was the what's the book that

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was made into a movie.

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Speaker 2: Hello's Love, Hennis Love, Endless Love Love.

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Speaker 1: Uh No, I was gonna I was gonna say, the

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one that became a movie with Champagne and Phoebe Kate's

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and Oh dast Times a Ridge Last Times at Ridgemont High.

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That was like I read that when I was like fourteen, and.

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Speaker 2: Cameron Crow he wrote the novel Yes, interesting, Okay, I

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don't know if any of that.

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Speaker 1: So he was a journalist. This is before he started

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making movies and he went back to high school and

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then he oh yeah, he snuck back into high school.

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And it was like a kind of a based on

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a true story.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah, Oh that's so cool. I don't think

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I knew that because it was a similar thing, right

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with it's a movie about a music scene, and he

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did the same thing where he was like, oh, I'm

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a journalist, but I'm only really fifteen.

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fco L. Yeah. Yes, But back to the Stephen King thing,

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those were actually kind of advanced and did have sex

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in them. They had all this stuff, but they He

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was also a great writer and creative.

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Speaker 2: I think one of probably the best storytellers of our generation.

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You know, he really that guy can really write a book.

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I really can, because I remember reading any he's so prolific.

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But I remember reading like the greatest hits for sure

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when I was like middle school.

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Speaker 1: There's this one called I think it's called Skeleton Key.

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Is that it's a book of short stories? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Is that the one that has I think it's called

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apt Pupil and it's about this kid who lives next

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sort of a Nazi war criminal.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Skeleton Crew. Yeah, well there's also Skeleton Key, but

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I think it's Skeleton Crew. Yes, I think thats ere Key. Oh, okay,

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Well the one that the story that I was thinking

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of is The Mist, which is this this story where

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it's all these kids were young people and there they

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go out they're like skinny dipping, I don't remember, but

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they end up on this sort of like a rat,

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like a what do you call it? When there's like

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a wooden thing and you have to swim out to

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it like a doc like a doc. Yeah, there's like

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a little doc out in the water, and they all

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swim out there, and then this thing starts eating them,

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like coming up on the thing and like and sucking

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them into the water. And if they look down at it,

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it gets all like sparkly glittery, and then they stare

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at it and then they get eaten by it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. I read that way too young

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and was like, what the fuck did I just read?

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Like I can't go to sleep. Yeah, it was very

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sensitive too, but I loved it. I ate all that

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up and I got those from my parents. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Same, same, Oh god, you know what I read so

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young Amityville Horror.

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Speaker 1: Yes, same, I.

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Speaker 2: Read that's so young, and like, you know, I was like,

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you know, there's a job that you can get which

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is to be a professional demonologist, and.

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Speaker 1: I would like to look into that. I feel like

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that could be my calling. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty

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sure that reading Nancy Drew Mysteries, I was like, oh yeah,

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I'm going to totally be a detective, like I'm going

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to see your mysteries. So we are, we are, we are?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we really should be a private eye team. I

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don't know why we're sleeping on this.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, what's happened? What's going on with Nancy Guthrie?

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Speaker 2: Man, I don't know this is I mean, I actually

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haven't heard anything in the last few days because I've

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just been at the hospital with my sister.

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Speaker 1: But is there anything new to report? No, nothing.

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Speaker 2: Everybody just thinks she's dead and they're just trying to

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get the body back at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Clearly then Megan Kelly, who we you know, love,

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love her, love her, She claimed that Savannah Guthrie made

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a comment where she said that she was taken, that

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her mom was taken from her bed, taken in the night,

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taken from her bed. So Megan Kelly was saying that

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there seems to be maybe some proof, you know that

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we don't know that she was taken from her bed.

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But I don't know what difference that would make.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what difference it would make either. And

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it's also like, if somebody is taken from their home

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in the middle of the night, you just assume that

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they're taken from their bed, you know what I mean? Right? Yeah,

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Like that feels like like a logical assumption.

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Speaker 1: That is so true. What kind of bullshit like rumor

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are you.

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Speaker 2: Saying, like, oh my god, no one needs your help

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investigating this, Stephanie and I have got it. We'll call

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you when we need you.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, Okay. So I wanted to bring up Okay, I

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had one thing to tell you, which is that which

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you'll think is funny. And I don't know about our audience,

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but it doesn't matter. So today is fry when people

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are listening to it, But today is Monday when we're

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recording it. And on Saturday there is the speech and debate.

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State calls Oh exciting. So this would be the last

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time that Xander would have an opportunity as a high

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school student to try to qualify for state. Now he

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has not written a speech for this.

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Speaker 2: This feels historically on par I'm accurate.

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Speaker 1: So but I do. Okay, this is kind of going

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to tie back to what we're talking about with like

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the type of parenting that we do. So I do

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feel that I have and I have been criticized for

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it many many times. I don't need any more, but

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I probably have done quite a bit of overparenting in

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my mind to make up for my underparenting. And you know,

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you wonder sometimes like have I handicapped my children in

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a way of like being able to figure shit out?

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But I'm going to say this today I got a

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text from Xander okay, and it said he wrote, just

472
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:19,799
got this message, okay. And the message is from University

473
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:23,000
of Redlands and it says, Xander, we'd love to give

474
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:27,039
you a complete Financial Aid award. Your next steps to

475
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,799
make that happen are well, they want to complete his

476
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,799
They already offered him money, okay, Oh okay, they want

477
00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,279
to give him his complete award. They want to know

478
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,480
what Okay. It says. The next steps to make that

479
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:45,000
happen are one, complete the FAFSA or add Redlands to

480
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,359
your existing FAFSA, and then they give them the school

481
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,759
code or to be sure we have your social Security number.

482
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:54,200
This information is needed to match the FAFSA. Our FAFSA

483
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,119
priority deadline is tomorrow, March second. Okay, that's today. I'm

484
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,880
here to answer any questions you have about next steps

485
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,799
and hope to see your FAFSA arrive soon. Okay. So

486
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:09,839
he sends that to me, right, and I said, okay,

487
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,240
where's that? Okay? He wrote, Hey, I just got this

488
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:16,119
message and I checked and Redlands is on the list

489
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,599
I made. I can double check again. So I wrote,

490
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,519
can you call them and ask? Now? No, if I

491
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,200
had said that to LB, well, this is where I'm

492
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,799
just going to say that kids are different. Right. If

493
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:31,440
I had said that to LB, she would be like

494
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:36,319
what No, like yeah, can you help me? Or she'd say, well,

495
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,720
what do I say? Then I'd be like, just say

496
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,160
I got this message and ask him if there's an issue.

497
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,440
This is what he wrote back, Yeah, let me find

498
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,920
time during the next period. Oh yeah, because we didn't

499
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,200
input schools or even your social Security number, meaning that's

500
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:56,880
kind of your territory. And he wrote, I was the

501
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,480
one who input those, but they should have gone through

502
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:04,279
because I needed them to submit. Okay. I said, if

503
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:06,440
you call them, you can double check the issue. And

504
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,319
he goes I'll call them in dramatic writing. Then he writes,

505
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,640
just called. It's all good. They sent me that email

506
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,599
last night, but they processed my fasta today. I should

507
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,359
know about any financial aid in around two weeks, and

508
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,000
I wrote perfect, good job. So yeah, I guess I

509
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,960
didn't fuck up that bad. No, you didn't.

510
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: I think what we need to do is give them

511
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,599
a chance to do this stuff on her, because I

512
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,079
think our impetus is to be like, let me do

513
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,079
that for you because I know how and it'll get

514
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:36,720
done faster.

515
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: But would I tell I'll be to do something, she

516
00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:42,680
just won't right.

517
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,039
Speaker 2: And maybe that's a personality thing, you know, like because

518
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:50,039
I always think, like, oh my god, I haven't fantalized

519
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,960
my son. And sometimes he needs a little more prodding

520
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:56,839
to do stuff where he has to ask me a

521
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,519
lot of questions, like if he has to go to

522
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:02,640
the post office, he needs me to answer a lot

523
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,680
of questions about what to expect. But when if not joking,

524
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,160
but when I say to him, like call and make

525
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,119
a doctor's appointment all and ask your doctor this, he

526
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,119
does it. And it's I think it's taken me like

527
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,440
sending him off to college for me to feel better

528
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,839
about it and just to just be like, no, let

529
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,799
me let him do it. Let's see if you can

530
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,880
do it, and hand. So we're just used to doing everything.

531
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: Your son goes to Berkeley, got into got into Berkeley,

532
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,359
which is like pretty amazing, and then you were happy

533
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:43,240
about it being Berkeley, but you were kind of freaked

534
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,240
out it was going to be a bit far, like

535
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,680
having your only child going away to college. And how

536
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,559
has that worked out.

537
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: It's been It's been great. I mean I feel lucky

538
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:59,359
that in you know, about midway through the college acceptance process,

539
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,160
he decided that he didn't want to go to an

540
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,640
East Coast school, and then you know, we thought he

541
00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:07,960
was going to be in Portland, and now he's in Berkeley,

542
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,400
and so it's like I can look at his location

543
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:13,079
on my phone and it'll say like Grayson is five

544
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:15,599
and a half hours away, and that makes me feel better,

545
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,440
like I know that I can jump in my car

546
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:20,319
and get to him if I need to, but it's

547
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,240
far enough away to where.

548
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:24,599
Speaker 1: He's got to handle some stuff on it. Oh, and

549
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,000
he is.

550
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: So it's it's a nice balance, I.

551
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,119
Speaker 1: Think, And at first you were, you know, we're kind

552
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,680
of worried. I mean, it was a lot that he

553
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,160
was gone, and is he going to make friends and

554
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,440
is he going to find his way? And he has, right, Yeah,

555
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,000
he has.

556
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: You know, I think it takes him a little longer

557
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:46,079
sometimes to make friends.

558
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:47,559
Speaker 1: He's shy, he's a shy kick.

559
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,119
Speaker 2: But he's doing it, you know, like he's getting involved

560
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,240
in things and he's meeting people. The other night he goes, yeah,

561
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000
I'm going to a birthday dinner of this girl I know,

562
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,880
like I've never heard this name before. Or he's invited

563
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,200
to events. So it's all going well, it's all going well,

564
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,759
I'm happy.

565
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,559
Speaker 1: But sometimes he would tell you like, yeah, I'm gonna

566
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:12,119
just I'm doing such and such, but just by myself.

567
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,440
And then your little mama heart would be like, wait,

568
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,839
what he's by himself? But he was fine. He was fine.

569
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: I mean he's an only child still, he doesn't mind

570
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:24,599
being on his own.

571
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,279
Speaker 1: But sometimes I'll go.

572
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: You know, I want you to try and like make

573
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,960
some friends and like reach out to people. I don't

574
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,680
want you to be lonely, like you need some friends,

575
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,359
and well I have friends. I'm like, oh, I didn't

576
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,880
think you had a friend. So girl friend sounds good

577
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,960
to me, but he's just it's always been this.

578
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,839
Speaker 1: Way his entire school career.

579
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:49,359
Speaker 2: I'm worried about him making friends, and he's fine, Like,

580
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,279
you know, he gets one or two friends and they're

581
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:58,799
good kids and he's fine. So's it's more me worrying

582
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,680
than him worrying.

583
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because I was just talking to my

584
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:09,440
friend Cecily, who you've met, whose daughter is when of

585
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,359
Elbe's really good friends. She's the only child, and Cecily

586
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,559
was saying that Ava, her daughter is totally fine spending

587
00:33:17,559 --> 00:33:21,119
time by herself, like is not always craving. And I

588
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,000
was like, it's so interesting because and I don't know

589
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,799
if it's because Elb is one of three, but she

590
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:29,519
does not like being alone. She's never alone. She just

591
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:31,319
goes from the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing,

592
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:35,720
you know, whatever her plan is. She's got four plans

593
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,039
on top of that, and if she has one moment

594
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:41,960
of downtime, she's like, oh no, it's really I'm not

595
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,680
doing anything.

596
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:46,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I wonder if it has to do

597
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,200
with like birth order or number of siblings, or if

598
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,200
it's just a personality thing, like I love being by

599
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,200
myself I am so happy being alone. And I'm the

600
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,559
oldest of three like Elvie, so you know.

601
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: But then Sadie, I almost consider her my my youngest

602
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,000
in a way. H I don't know why. I sort

603
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:10,960
of almost feel like Xander's kind of in the middle

604
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,440
and Sadie's the youngest for some reason, even though she's

605
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:16,440
older than Xander by a couple of minutes. But she

606
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:21,719
loves being alone. Interesting she will turn down plans just because, like,

607
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,159
I'd rather just chill at home by myself. Yeah.

608
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 2: Somebody literally just texted me five minutes ago to ask

609
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,599
me if I wanted to go to like a really

610
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:35,599
cool event tonight, and I was like, no, I don't.

611
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,400
I love you for inviting me. Maybe a different day

612
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,280
I would, but.

613
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:42,639
Speaker 1: I just don't want to.

614
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to leave my house tonight, Like I've

615
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,800
been out of my house for the past five days,

616
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:50,159
and like tonight, I want to lay on my couch.

617
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,320
I want to watch Love is Blind and I don't

618
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,159
want to do anything.

619
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,079
Speaker 1: So you're not caught up on Love is Blind. Well,

620
00:34:57,159 --> 00:35:04,039
the last episode, I saw ten and eleven are out.

621
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I saw I think Emma getting married. I think

622
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,280
that was the last thing I saw, that's the last

623
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,440
episode that's out.

624
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,199
Speaker 1: She was getting married and she said yes, and now

625
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:17,320
we're waiting to see his answer. Oh that's right.

626
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: She did the long like I don't know, said the

627
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,400
same love and I say yes, yes, okay.

628
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: So you're not going to watch it tonight, unfortunately for you.

629
00:35:28,199 --> 00:35:30,880
That is sad. Yeah, I've got a lot of garbage

630
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:34,239
Friday for everybody else, so they already know the weddings

631
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:42,239
that happened. Now I've read some spoilers. Well, I read

632
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,440
some Reality Steve spoilers, but already a couple of more wrong.

633
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:49,960
So now I don't actually know what happens.

634
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: But my only real interests. The only people I have

635
00:35:55,039 --> 00:36:03,519
found particularly interesting are that and Jess like like, they're

636
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:09,559
definitely like the most interesting dynamic I've watched on this show.

637
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:13,920
Oh but also there was that other couple that broke

638
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,039
up that I wasn't expecting to break up.

639
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: Are we allowed to say, yeah? Why not? Yeah? By

640
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,599
this point we already know the show's done almost yeah,

641
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,639
So same for the reion that Midwestern breezy and consters.

642
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't I didn't expect that. I didn't expect

643
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,960
her to break up with him.

644
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: I did. I never felt like she really liked him.

645
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:42,280
I felt like she really loved being on TV. Yeah,

646
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,639
and I say that ran its course for her, and

647
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,119
I think she was like honestly, I think she was like,

648
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:51,079
I can do better, and I don't want to actually

649
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:53,880
go through this marriage. And I think this, but her

650
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,639
whole speech about yeah, you've really the thing I love

651
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:02,519
about you is how you've about loving me, like you've

652
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:05,119
loved me so much, and I just love that about you.

653
00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:07,599
I just oh, it's such a great quality, how much

654
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,000
you just love me. You just love me.

655
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: And it's a shame that you have a keg on

656
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,039
your porch. We're not going to be able to get

657
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:17,159
past that. But I will take the love that you've

658
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:20,119
given me, and I'm going to go probably have sex

659
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:23,639
with that little Chris guy. Yes, yes, Like don't you

660
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,760
think like there was something like he was like that

661
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,079
Chris guy was coming on to her. She said what

662
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,400
she was supposed to say, which is like, no, I'm

663
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,039
with someone, I've committed myself to someone. But you could

664
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:36,239
tell she was interested.

665
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could tell if you saw the camera

666
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:41,000
angle from the other side. She was winking at him,

667
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,199
You know what I mean, you just felt you felt

668
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,239
that she was going, like just kidding about the la Yeah, yeah,

669
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,559
I picked this other guy, not for long, just kidding, yeah, Like, yeah,

670
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,400
there's no way those two haven't hooked up. No, Dave,

671
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:59,119
There's no way. I mean. Also when she was like

672
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,559
telling Honor, hey, he was dming me. He was like

673
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:07,519
in my DMS, and then Connor was like, oh, give

674
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,079
me your phone, like I'll respond to him. The fact

675
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,719
that she was like no, I was like, oh, because

676
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:19,159
she's already She's already DMed him. Yeah, she's been with him. Yeah. Yeah,

677
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,119
I don't like I don't like her, Yeah.

678
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like her either. I didn't like

679
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,960
her in the Pods at all. And part of the

680
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:32,920
reason is, and this is very very shallow of me,

681
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:37,800
I find that the personal style of most of these

682
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,920
contestants is terrible. Like they have the worst taste in

683
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:46,679
clothes and in hair and in makeup. Like I just

684
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:49,800
want to give them all makeovers. And that's how I

685
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,679
can make myself a valuable asset to this show.

686
00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: Especially the She's a nurse, right, the one that wears

687
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,559
like nineteen eighties dresses and has like right out hair.

688
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:08,679
Speaker 2: She's a fucking nurse practitioner, she's practically supposedly a doctor,

689
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,960
and she is an idiot. So there is no I

690
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,400
am not buying for one second at that bitche of

691
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,199
the nurse practitioner. And she has the worst style of

692
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,880
any of them. All of it's bad. The dresses, the hair,

693
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:23,119
the name, it's all bad.

694
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't can't even remember her name. And that

695
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:33,360
poor guy Amber. Her name is Amber Amber Jordan No, yeah,

696
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,360
Jordan's his name is Jordan's Jordan, Yeah, for sure, as

697
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:43,800
a shot to me, oh so poor god. I just

698
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,320
wanted to get back to this really quick because you know,

699
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,880
before we before we end. But is Xander really going

700
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,920
to write a speech? So he's so there's nothing else

701
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,400
he can do except for like impromptu, which he's not

702
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,400
going to do. He's not that good at it. But

703
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:01,880
he he thinks he's going to write a speech. So

704
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,800
today's Monday. He thinks he's going to write an entire

705
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,320
ten minute speech and memorize it and then perform it

706
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,079
at a speech at a state qualification. And I kept saying, listen,

707
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,519
he doesn't you know me, I'm a no getter. I'm

708
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:18,559
just like, do you really want to do that? Like

709
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:21,719
is that seem worth it? And he's like, yeah, I

710
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,880
don't want to not do it. And I'm like, but

711
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,599
it's going to take a bunch of work. He has

712
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:31,599
seven day a week tech rehearsal right now for his

713
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,440
play which starts soon. So I'm like, but that's going

714
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,239
to take a lot of energy. You're going to be

715
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,559
up some late nights writing and then you have to

716
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,280
memorize it. And he's like, yeah, I'll do it.

717
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't seem concerned about it, Like, he doesn't

718
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,960
seem stressed about it.

719
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,079
Speaker 1: No, so let him do it.

720
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: Although I will remind you of the time when Grayson

721
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,159
did something very very similar and then failed abysmally, Like,

722
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,679
oh my.

723
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Xander will fail abysmally and he won't

724
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,639
have any other opportunities. Oh, Grayson had the exact same

725
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,840
situation because he had to learn a piece for state qualifiers.

726
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It was exactly that because his partner veiled

727
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,320
on him right at the last minute, so kind of

728
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,639
it was like this was not a piece he should

729
00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:26,199
have been doing, and he was sort of led astray

730
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:33,239
by someone in charge. But yeah, it was just this

731
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,719
matter of like learning a ten minute speech of somebody

732
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,119
else's material and then getting a performance ready, and you're

733
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:44,079
doing it with all these kids who have been doing

734
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:45,639
the same piece all.

735
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: Year for months and months and practicing and working on

736
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,400
it with the code getting feedback. Yes, so he will

737
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,840
other judge, no feedback, he will learn it, say it

738
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,000
and there will be no tweaking, and it's just like yeah,

739
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,559
and then he won't do well because you can't. It's

740
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:08,079
like you can't. Although, remember that girl that we met,

741
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:11,280
the we really liked the mom. I'll just tell you

742
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,000
her name because it doesn't matter, but summer, remember that girl,

743
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:18,960
she's like a phenom. Well, I remember before the lot

744
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:22,800
before last year's speech state calls, she wrote an O

745
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,000
O speech like two days before and memorized it and

746
00:42:27,039 --> 00:42:29,480
then killed and made it to state.

747
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: Made it to stay. Yeah, I remember that. I mean, listen,

748
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:38,599
is there a possibility that Xander could pull this off?

749
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,639
One hundred percent? He's a really good writer, he's a

750
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,039
really talented kid.

751
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,159
Speaker 1: He could pull it off.

752
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: And if he doesn't, he doesn't that at least he

753
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:47,320
you know.

754
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: But I already signed up to do judging, which is

755
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:54,679
kind of what I was leading to. So they needed judges,

756
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,920
and I said I would. I asked Andrew, though, I

757
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,559
was like, are you one hundred percent sure? Because I

758
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:02,840
don't want I have to go judge without you, no like,

759
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,400
and he was like, I'm going to do it. And

760
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,559
I said, okay, So I'm going to judge. And I

761
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:13,840
guess because I'm going with my friend because you've already graduated.

762
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:17,039
So I have this other friend named Julie, and Julie

763
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,079
is really excited for me to do it, and she's like,

764
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:23,599
this is going to be our last time. So I said,

765
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:27,159
I guess even if Xander ends up bailing, I said,

766
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:33,239
I'll go with you. Well you like it? I do

767
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:35,159
like it. I kind of like it.

768
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thank you. You think you're going to

769
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,159
miss it. I don't think you're going to miss it,

770
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,159
but I feel like if you don't go to this

771
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,960
last one, you're going to have fun all about it.

772
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: I think I will, So I guess if Xander doesn't go,

773
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,280
I'm still going to go. Why not lose loser? Isn't

774
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,360
that hilarious? Though?

775
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: It is?

776
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: You know what? I genuinely had fun at the last one,

777
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,800
and my face favorite thing is to after you've judged

778
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,159
all your events is to go back and see how

779
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,199
bad the other judges fucked it up. Like that, how

780
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,280
I'd see a person and I'd be like, this person

781
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,360
was really good. This literally happened to me. Okay, last

782
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,880
time there was a girl there was it was dramatic interpretation,

783
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,519
and there was a girl and I told this. I

784
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:24,159
told part of this story on Patreon. Remember the story

785
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,639
that I told you about the one girl who was amazing,

786
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:31,400
but then there was another girl who was second, second

787
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,719
to amazing. The first amazing girl eked out a win,

788
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,119
but this other girl was really really good, and then

789
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:43,480
there was some also rans, you know, and then that

790
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:45,719
girl who was really good didn't even break She didn't

791
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,639
even go to the finals. And I was like, what

792
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,320
kind of meth are these other judges smoking? And then

793
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,599
I had to go and look and I was like

794
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,599
how they scored her low? And I really wanted to

795
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:00,440
be like, can I get the contact information for these people?

796
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,760
They should not be asked back, I have some feedback

797
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,519
for them. Can I feedback to the other judges?

798
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,039
Speaker 2: Is that a thing we do here in the tabron?

799
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,519
Speaker 1: Let me ask Brandon, is there a way that I

800
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:18,840
could just get the their email address.

801
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:23,639
Speaker 2: I know things are like you run a pretty tight ship, Brandon,

802
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,079
but I'm going to try to help you.

803
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,199
Speaker 1: Do you think there's any planet?

804
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: Because I think this will happen, is that you're going

805
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,519
to be asked to judge in the future.

806
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: We're going to do it. You know, you can put

807
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,960
yourself up for paid judging, because you know how the

808
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:44,719
schools have to pay for judges if they can't if

809
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,679
they can't find enough.

810
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,639
Speaker 2: And once you think you get paid like forty bucks

811
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:50,320
for the day.

812
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel like it's like two hundred.

813
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:56,119
I feel like it's like substitute teaching.

814
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: Right well sideigs for us.

815
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:02,159
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

816
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:05,039
Speaker 2: What if they just do the professional speech and debate

817
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:09,360
judge circuit. It is fun, It can be fun, super fun.

818
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,119
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna literally look and do it on tab

819
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,199
room because there's a thing that you can sign up

820
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,239
and put yourself up to be a judge. I wonder

821
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,400
how how zed you have to be. I think you

822
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,960
have to take some of their little courses. But we've

823
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,239
done that, We've done that. Yeah, you have to take Yeah,

824
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:34,760
this could be this is how we give back but

825
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,960
also get paid. But really I should have a thing

826
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,000
where we have to do it together. Oh yeah, that's

827
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,039
in our contract. Yeah, I feel like, is there a contract?

828
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:47,559
Is there a contract?

829
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,639
Speaker 2: Like my lawyer look over some things and maybe make

830
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,000
some amendments. So if you could get that over to

831
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:54,960
me asap, Brandon.

832
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, tell us how to find your tell us

833
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,800
how to find it Gray by Tamara Mello. I mean,

834
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,880
give us the whole, give us the whole pitch again. Yeah,

835
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,599
give us the pitch.

836
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: And you can find my jewelry at Gray by tamramellow

837
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,280
dot com, or you can find me in general at

838
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,880
Tamaramelo on Instagram. If you have any questions or anything

839
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,199
about jewelry, if you want a custom piece made, etcetera, etcetera,

840
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,480
just just reach out to me. I'm happy to chat

841
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:24,920
about it.

842
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,599
Speaker 1: I love it and her stuff is so cute. I've

843
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,119
worn it in like a lot of different like pictures

844
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:34,519
and stuff. Oh yeah, and drunkish episodes. I love the

845
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:38,039
Lockett necklace that you gave me. It's a is, it's brass,

846
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,480
it's bronze, bronze, bronze, little Lockett, and she does one

847
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,199
that has like also a little thing that says best friends,

848
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:48,320
so like you can get that for your friend.

849
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,079
Speaker 2: You get like like, yeah, you get one for you

850
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:52,559
and one.

851
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,159
Speaker 1: For your best friend.

852
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:56,639
Speaker 2: And it's cute and I think it's not cheesy, like

853
00:47:56,639 --> 00:47:58,920
like the best friend little herd is pretty subtle.

854
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:01,519
Speaker 1: No, it's funky and it's like a little bit chunky.

855
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,519
It's funky and chunky. I love it. I love it.

856
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:08,039
It's one of my favorite pieces. So do that and

857
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:12,519
follow her on Instagram and let's say hi to our friends.

858
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,239
We already did all the business shout outs, except you

859
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,599
know what, I'll just remind you about Adam. Adam can

860
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:20,960
help you buy a car. He's a car broker Tamra. Honestly,

861
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,360
next time you need a car, you should go through

862
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,119
my friend Adam.

863
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm going to because you know how I feel about

864
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,400
my cron Yeah.

865
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: The thing about Adam is he's not in it for

866
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:35,400
any money. He just has relationships with all these dealerships

867
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,000
so he can just say, listen, this is my budget.

868
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:40,039
I don't want to spend more than like four hundred

869
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:41,920
a month or whatever, and he'll be like, Okay, here's

870
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,199
what's good, right now, here's who's doing specials and then

871
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,880
he can figure out your financing get the lowest rate anyway,

872
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,239
it's really great. So Adam's got a car dot com

873
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,519
And then, as always, Kelsey's between two ferns and Christa

874
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:57,679
gets strapped. Stephanie's a stinker rinker. Sandra, it's not easy

875
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,679
being green, Aaron, You're a dirty Sanchez, Leslie with the coffin.

876
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Get an antibiotic already, Alicia Asclante from the city Ville Wante.

877
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:06,400
Kelly Brandt is not your aunt. You know what she'll

878
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,000
do though. Rebecca a little and is so cute that ass.

879
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,719
Missy and Gabby two great gals up to bad stuff though,

880
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,920
that's the thing about them. Katerina, make sure you get

881
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:25,119
regular dental checkups because you're molar. Valerie Bubbafen. We gets

882
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,400
out of the park probably we live your pancakes. Rita

883
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:31,920
is rocking, Elizabeth Williamson's kids inner, Bassiet and Nikki call

884
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,039
your girl, and Dick is frolicking. Love all you guys.

885
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,480
See you next week. Hopefully Lynette will be all better.

886
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:43,079
Thank you so much, Tamra, I really appreciate you.

887
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm so happy to be here anytime, and.

888
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: This is not in place of our lunch.

889
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:50,039
Speaker 2: Just know that no, we need a lunch.

890
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, everybody, thank you, see you next week.

891
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Bye bye.

892
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: It's good

893
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,159
Speaker 2: Letting