Speaker 1: Made a decision.
Speaker 2: Sunny SUNI on ahead of vision.
Speaker 1: It's nice.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Everybody? Welcome to for crying out loud. It's Friday, It's
our Friday show. And I still have Tamra mellow here.
It's not mellow. There's no w at the end of now.
Speaker 2: It's actually a super common Portuguese name.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Smith in Portugal. Yeah, and in Brazil too,
Are you serious?
Speaker 1: Funny?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like there's no Portuguese people on the
on the West coast, so it's like if I go
east coast, everybody is like, oh, you're Portuguese.
Speaker 1: Is that funny? That is really funny.
Speaker 2: And in Toronto too, there's like a big Portuguese population,
so everybody like recognizes that name.
Speaker 1: That is really really funny. Years ago, I worked at
an Argentinian restaurant and there was a girl from Las
No Gaucho girl okay, and there was a girl that
named her named Catalina. Catalina maybe I don't know. She
spoke Portuguese and she was always like trying to teach
me Portuguese and I never caught on to any of it.
But yeah, the manager of the restaurant was super hot,
and I really liked him, and I forgot where he
was from. But he really had a crush on this girl,
the Portuguese girl, and he didn't like me, I think
because honestly because I was white. But he did have
sex with me on the floor of the kitchen, so
nice of him. It was so nice of him to tea.
He would have literally he would have sex with me,
but he was he would not date me, and I
think it was really a matter of, like, I'm not
somebody he could bring home to mom. But I was
a wee bit of an alcoholic back in those days.
I don't know if you can imagine. So I would
allow like I loved like I thought he was so
so cute, and we had all these private jokes, and
this was my personality back then well and probably still
would be if I was single, but I would have
to be. I would pine for people, right I was
just like I would want the ones that didn't want me,
but that wanted me a tiny.
Speaker 3: Bit right right right right right, not that didn't want
me at the right way exactly exactly, And then I
would strategize and I would come into work like looking
really cute, and I would figure out like how to
flirt but keep it subtle but not be like too obvious.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is he actually really liked me
when I first got high, but I had a boyfriend.
I was living with this guy, and then the guy
pretty soon after broke up with me and moved to Italy,
and then I was single. And now I now it
turned around and I wanted this guy, but so did
the other girl, so.
Speaker 2: She wanted him to. Yeah, it wasn't just.
Speaker 1: Oh no, they dated, okay, all right, but he still
slept with me, you know, because he's sweet. Yeah, he
was nice. He was sweet. I don't know, because I
think that I only found out that he was also
sleeping with her and liked her after the fact, so
and he denied it to me, of course. So what
would happen is I'd go into work, he would kind
of flirt with me during the shift, and then I
would hope I would try to be the closing server.
Oh okay, and they can hang out as a manager, yes,
And then we would do this little dance of like
I'm marrying the ketchup, almost done, it's almost time to close,
and then somehow like we'd go in the back kitchen
and like we'd we'd start drinking wine and then like
I had sex with them a couple of times on
the floor of the kitchen. Nice, nice, sassy, super flossy.
Speaker 2: This is vanber Pump rules. Oh you were totally vander
pump ruling it, just on a smaller scale.
Speaker 1: I was kind of a bit of a hussy back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Same, I would put up with really bad like I
would definitely put up with no great behavior. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that this comes from like not the best upbringing,
like just to need for attention, no matter what kind
of attention it is.
Speaker 1: M hm hm. Let mesk you.
Speaker 2: This, thanks Mom and dad.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this about about acting. I'm always
so fascinated, you know, with your career. In case anybody
doesn't know, we've discussed your career at length on other episodes,
so I hope people understand that this. I'm not interviewing
you because you've been on before, so I'm treating it
like you know, Lynette, right, like.
Speaker 2: We're just talking on going conversations and.
Speaker 1: I'm going conversation. But I am curious as to whether
and there's a lot of like fucked up actresses, am
I right. Yeah, when you got into acting and you
started to get some success in acting, did you find
that becoming a little bit famous or I don't know
if you ever felt like famous famous, but we've talked
about it, but there's been periods where you were like
getting asked for your autograph and getting recognized. Did that
heal any of your inner wounds?
Speaker 2: No? No, not at all. No, there is this, like
I think it's the reason people go into acting to
begin with.
Speaker 1: It's this need for validation.
Speaker 2: But it's it's an unfillable hole, you know, like the
more you get, the more you want. So like there's
no amount of fame or accolades that is ever going
to fill that hole that was created by your parents.
Speaker 1: So were you getting any therapy at the time, did
you even think you needed it? Like did you what
was your mindset at the time, because you were pretty
young when you started getting going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was youngish. I mostly looked a
lot younger than I was.
Speaker 1: But you were college age, yeah, so yeah, I didn't
mean young like a child, like a child actress. Yeah,
but it was twenties, definitely.
Speaker 2: It was young for thinking, hey, maybe I should get
some therapy. But I did start therapy probably in my
late twenties, thank god, because I mean, listen, we all
we all need therapy. I'm a big believer in therapy.
But yeah, I mean I had like unchecked anxiety ahead depression,
like as we've talked about, like I have bipolar disorder,
but it you know, it wouldn't be diagnosed for many,
many years after I had started therapy. But eventually, I
think what happened, at least for me, is when I
had my son, that need for validation went away. I
didn't need it anymore. I had this this person in
my life that I loved more than anything, and I
just wanted to give him everything that I didn't have,
and that was very healing for me.
Speaker 1: That's so sweet. Did you do you Did you feel
like that right away or did you have like a
lot of us have a lot of anxiety at the beginning,
like oh my god, I'm going to fuck this up.
I don't know if I'm doing this right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I still feel that way sometimes,
but I remember, like I one of the things that
I was talking to my therapist about I was in
a serious relationship and I was thinking about having kids.
Eventually and I would talk to my therapist about it
and I said, I don't I don't know that I'm
going to be a good mom. I don't know that
I have the best example. And I'm really really afraid of,
you know, just just not being a good mom, of
of not having the tools, like I haven't been given
the tools to know how to do this job. And
she said, you know, I think what happens for a
lot of people is that a lot of like the
heal the trauma from their past gets healed when they
have children of their own, Like, you're not necessarily going
to pass it on to your kids. It's actually going
to maybe be a healing moment for both of you.
Speaker 1: And it was.
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, if you don't have therapy,
you may not have that mindset going in.
Speaker 1: We hopefully you will.
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, there's so much trauma that's
passed on, so much generational trauma, that if we don't
get a hold of it, we're just going to keep
perpetuating it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that, you know, I was. I got
some of my best therapy with the best therapist I
ever had, right before I got pregnant and married. I'm
so grateful for that, because she's the one that said, listen,
just you just do it, like if you if you're
scared to not have a child, then just have one.
That's just what people do. You just do it, right,
And then I did, and I think that's when my
therapy did kind of end with her. But and at
the beginning was so hard. But do you feel I mean,
I know, and I was just talking to somebody else
about this too. I definitely think I overcompensate for a
lot of what I wasn't given. And I'm always trying
to check in with myself, like am I doing too much?
Am I not doing enough? Am I what's that sweet
spot of parenting? But you know, I was talking to
and I told you this, but this was a Patreon
that I did. But you know the situation that happened
where I sent a text to the wrong person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
So I was talking to some young kids, some like
high school kids, one girl that just graduated, some friends
of my kids, and I was telling them the situation.
And then I saw one of the girls that I
had told the situation to just the other night the kids,
the kids had a show, and she said whatever what
ended up happening with that situation. And I told her
and I said, you know, I ended up like just apologizing,
like just owning it. And she was like, you know, honestly,
like that is that's the best. And I said and
I said, and I tried. I tried. She goes, it's
the hardest thing to do, but it's actually always works
out the best if you like just apologize, I know.
And then I said, yeah, I try to do that
like as a parent too, and she goes, oh my gosh,
I love it when my mom apologizes. Yeah, it's such
a good example. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I was like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: I like I like hearing that feedback from somebody else's kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because sometimes you wonder like, oh, well, you don't
want to, I don't know, seem weak or like make
make them. There's all these things that go through my
head all the time. It's almost like dog training, right,
They okay, if you let them, if you give them
an inch, or if you let them know that you
don't meant necessarily that you make mistakes or don't know
what you're doing, then they're not going to respect you
or whatever. But I don't necessarily think that's true. I
think if you can say, like I don't always know
what I'm doing and I made a mistake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. You know, it's interesting. I was
reading a.
Speaker 1: Study earlier that.
Speaker 2: It was a study done on like parenting within class.
So it was like kids from like a lower socio
economic background were better behaved. They didn't they didn't talk
back to their their parents as much. They tended to
be a little more creative and autonomous because they don't
have their you know, their parents are busy working, like
trying to put food on the table, so so kids
are left to their own devices more. And I thought
it was interesting because like kids that came from a
more middle class background were much more contentious, argued with
their parents a lot more, had way more structured time
because they're doing karate, they're doing soccer, they're doing ballet,
and so they find that they're they're not quite as autonomous.
There may be not not that they're not as creative,
but they're not as sort of creative with their time.
And I thought that was really interesting. Like when you
and I talk about overcompensating, it's like, of course I
want my kid to play soccer of course I want
my kid to like play a musical instrument because I
didn't have that stuff, so I'm going to pile it
on my kid. And I just I thought it was
It was interesting though, like ten years later, these kids,
they said, the ones that came from a more structured
upbringing tended to be more organized.
Speaker 1: So interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember the rest of the results of
the study, but I did think it was an interesting
It makes sense when you think about it, and like,
you know, I grew up like working class family, like
you know, left to my own devices during the summer,
and I read like that's all I had to do.
Like there was nothing else to do. We didn't have cable,
we didn't have anything, so I just read books. And
so I think that there's something too, like allowing a
kid to be bored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I I'm the same way latchkey kid,
and I read and read and read and read. And
that's what I credit being an author too. Yeah, because
no college, so you know, but I have pretty good grammar.
I have, but it's all from just reading books. And
it's not from high school either or junior high because
I was reading books in front of my textbook right right, right,
right right, novels, Judy Bloom books like you know, Flowers
in the Attic, I mean, nothing highbrow like I was.
Speaker 2: What's amazing to me is we all came from an
age where we were reading Flowers in the Attic, which
is so fucked up that is it a trilogy?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think there's like eight of them.
Speaker 2: I mean there's just incest, child abuse, like like twelve
year old sex. Like It's insane to me that we
were allowed to read these books and maybe encouraged.
Speaker 1: I mean because they were like, good you're reading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like it was those books that I was into.
And then there was this author.
Speaker 1: Called John Saul. Oh my god, yes you remember, yes
John Saul. Of course, yeah. He wrote like horror books,
like thriller horror books.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like also I feel like they had like
sort of like young adult themes, but they were not
for young adults. They were for full grown adults, and
somehow we got our hands on them.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'd forgotten about John Saul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you kind of want to reread them now.
Speaker 1: I want to go look at what the like, I
swear to god, I want to go see like what
some of the big titles were, John, I don't remember
at all, but they were, like, I feel like there's
something about like Rocking the Cradle, retro horror, that's what
it was. Cry for the Strangers was a movie he.
Speaker 2: Did, Rye for the Strangers.
Speaker 1: Yes, coming on, Oh remember this one, Comes the Blind Fury.
Oh yes, Oh, here's the one. Suffer the Children. That
was nineteen seventy seven, and then in the eighties comes
the Blind, Come the Blind Fury. Yeah, I think so.
The God Project was nineteen eighty two, Creature.
Speaker 2: I don't remember those, but I feel like Suffer the Children.
Speaker 1: That was his most first break and it.
Speaker 2: Was was were those like a trilogy? Was it Children's Strangers?
Was Cry for the Strangers? I feel like those were
somehow connected.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, I think so, But Suffer the
Children was the well it says it was the first
and a long line of best sellers that have.
Speaker 2: Been rereading that. I'm totally rereading it. Let's see it
holds up.
Speaker 1: It probably does not. I mean, that's just so funny.
But I was reading at that age too, like all
the Stephen King I read everything I read.
Speaker 2: I read Carnal Knowledge, in the sixth grade because I
found it on my dad's nightstand. Oh this is about
like oh, and also like Fear of Flying. Oh my god,
there's a jocket. Yeah, Like my mom had that like
tossing around. I guess I'll get my hands on that
at ten. Fear of Flying, which just like full on porn, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it had definitely had sex in it because she
was like a feminist. Yeah. I think she crazd the
phrase the zipless fuck.
Speaker 2: Yes she did, Yes, she did. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yes, my mom had that book and I read it
too off her, Like all of these books were on
our bookshelf. Yeah, and I always like busting through all
my library books and then looking on the shelves to
see what else to read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and no one monitored, which I think is good.
Like I remember Grayson read it The Stephen King and
it's like thousands of teaches when he was like in
fifth or sixth grade. And I had other parents coming
to me and being like, do you realize your son
is reading this book and there's like teenage sex in it.
There's da da da, And I'm like, my kid's reading
a book with two thousand pages in it. It's fine,
he'll felt censor. I'm not going to take it away
from him. But it's also it's like my true business
sixth grade parent.
Speaker 1: It's funny though, because I remember reading I read like
Judy Bloom's book, Wifey, which was I just saw something
about the fact that that was a full on, like
porn book. I had to have read that at like
thirteen or fourteen, maybe.
Speaker 2: Probably read it like after Tiger Eyes Why See was nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the I was gonna say, but then I
didn't lose my virginity till I was like nineteen. It's
not like I was. There's this correlation with like, oh
now I know about sex. It's like whatever, I read
all these books.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Another one that I read kind of young that went
around my high school was the what's the book that
was made into a movie.
Speaker 2: Hello's Love, Hennis Love, Endless Love Love.
Speaker 1: Uh No, I was gonna I was gonna say, the
one that became a movie with Champagne and Phoebe Kate's
and Oh dast Times a Ridge Last Times at Ridgemont High.
That was like I read that when I was like fourteen, and.
Speaker 2: Cameron Crow he wrote the novel Yes, interesting, Okay, I
don't know if any of that.
Speaker 1: So he was a journalist. This is before he started
making movies and he went back to high school and
then he oh yeah, he snuck back into high school.
And it was like a kind of a based on
a true story.
Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah, Oh that's so cool. I don't think
I knew that because it was a similar thing, right
with it's a movie about a music scene, and he
did the same thing where he was like, oh, I'm
a journalist, but I'm only really fifteen.
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fco L. Yeah. Yes, But back to the Stephen King thing,
those were actually kind of advanced and did have sex
in them. They had all this stuff, but they He
was also a great writer and creative.
Speaker 2: I think one of probably the best storytellers of our generation.
You know, he really that guy can really write a book.
I really can, because I remember reading any he's so prolific.
But I remember reading like the greatest hits for sure
when I was like middle school.
Speaker 1: There's this one called I think it's called Skeleton Key.
Is that it's a book of short stories? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is that the one that has I think it's called
apt Pupil and it's about this kid who lives next
sort of a Nazi war criminal.
Speaker 1: Yes, Skeleton Crew. Yeah, well there's also Skeleton Key, but
I think it's Skeleton Crew. Yes, I think thats ere Key. Oh, okay,
Well the one that the story that I was thinking
of is The Mist, which is this this story where
it's all these kids were young people and there they
go out they're like skinny dipping, I don't remember, but
they end up on this sort of like a rat,
like a what do you call it? When there's like
a wooden thing and you have to swim out to
it like a doc like a doc. Yeah, there's like
a little doc out in the water, and they all
swim out there, and then this thing starts eating them,
like coming up on the thing and like and sucking
them into the water. And if they look down at it,
it gets all like sparkly glittery, and then they stare
at it and then they get eaten by it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. I read that way too young
and was like, what the fuck did I just read?
Like I can't go to sleep. Yeah, it was very
sensitive too, but I loved it. I ate all that
up and I got those from my parents. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Same, same, Oh god, you know what I read so
young Amityville Horror.
Speaker 1: Yes, same, I.
Speaker 2: Read that's so young, and like, you know, I was like,
you know, there's a job that you can get which
is to be a professional demonologist, and.
Speaker 1: I would like to look into that. I feel like
that could be my calling. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty
sure that reading Nancy Drew Mysteries, I was like, oh yeah,
I'm going to totally be a detective, like I'm going
to see your mysteries. So we are, we are, we are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we really should be a private eye team. I
don't know why we're sleeping on this.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, what's happened? What's going on with Nancy Guthrie?
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know this is I mean, I actually
haven't heard anything in the last few days because I've
just been at the hospital with my sister.
Speaker 1: But is there anything new to report? No, nothing.
Speaker 2: Everybody just thinks she's dead and they're just trying to
get the body back at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Clearly then Megan Kelly, who we you know, love,
love her, love her, She claimed that Savannah Guthrie made
a comment where she said that she was taken, that
her mom was taken from her bed, taken in the night,
taken from her bed. So Megan Kelly was saying that
there seems to be maybe some proof, you know that
we don't know that she was taken from her bed.
But I don't know what difference that would make.
Speaker 2: I don't know what difference it would make either. And
it's also like, if somebody is taken from their home
in the middle of the night, you just assume that
they're taken from their bed, you know what I mean? Right? Yeah,
Like that feels like like a logical assumption.
Speaker 1: That is so true. What kind of bullshit like rumor
are you.
Speaker 2: Saying, like, oh my god, no one needs your help
investigating this, Stephanie and I have got it. We'll call
you when we need you.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Okay. So I wanted to bring up Okay, I
had one thing to tell you, which is that which
you'll think is funny. And I don't know about our audience,
but it doesn't matter. So today is fry when people
are listening to it, But today is Monday when we're
recording it. And on Saturday there is the speech and debate.
State calls Oh exciting. So this would be the last
time that Xander would have an opportunity as a high
school student to try to qualify for state. Now he
has not written a speech for this.
Speaker 2: This feels historically on par I'm accurate.
Speaker 1: So but I do. Okay, this is kind of going
to tie back to what we're talking about with like
the type of parenting that we do. So I do
feel that I have and I have been criticized for
it many many times. I don't need any more, but
I probably have done quite a bit of overparenting in
my mind to make up for my underparenting. And you know,
you wonder sometimes like have I handicapped my children in
a way of like being able to figure shit out?
But I'm going to say this today I got a
text from Xander okay, and it said he wrote, just
got this message, okay. And the message is from University
of Redlands and it says, Xander, we'd love to give
you a complete Financial Aid award. Your next steps to
make that happen are well, they want to complete his
They already offered him money, okay, Oh okay, they want
to give him his complete award. They want to know
what Okay. It says. The next steps to make that
happen are one, complete the FAFSA or add Redlands to
your existing FAFSA, and then they give them the school
code or to be sure we have your social Security number.
This information is needed to match the FAFSA. Our FAFSA
priority deadline is tomorrow, March second. Okay, that's today. I'm
here to answer any questions you have about next steps
and hope to see your FAFSA arrive soon. Okay. So
he sends that to me, right, and I said, okay,
where's that? Okay? He wrote, Hey, I just got this
message and I checked and Redlands is on the list
I made. I can double check again. So I wrote,
can you call them and ask? Now? No, if I
had said that to LB, well, this is where I'm
just going to say that kids are different. Right. If
I had said that to LB, she would be like
what No, like yeah, can you help me? Or she'd say, well,
what do I say? Then I'd be like, just say
I got this message and ask him if there's an issue.
This is what he wrote back, Yeah, let me find
time during the next period. Oh yeah, because we didn't
input schools or even your social Security number, meaning that's
kind of your territory. And he wrote, I was the
one who input those, but they should have gone through
because I needed them to submit. Okay. I said, if
you call them, you can double check the issue. And
he goes I'll call them in dramatic writing. Then he writes,
just called. It's all good. They sent me that email
last night, but they processed my fasta today. I should
know about any financial aid in around two weeks, and
I wrote perfect, good job. So yeah, I guess I
didn't fuck up that bad. No, you didn't.
Speaker 2: I think what we need to do is give them
a chance to do this stuff on her, because I
think our impetus is to be like, let me do
that for you because I know how and it'll get
done faster.
Speaker 1: But would I tell I'll be to do something, she
just won't right.
Speaker 2: And maybe that's a personality thing, you know, like because
I always think, like, oh my god, I haven't fantalized
my son. And sometimes he needs a little more prodding
to do stuff where he has to ask me a
lot of questions, like if he has to go to
the post office, he needs me to answer a lot
of questions about what to expect. But when if not joking,
but when I say to him, like call and make
a doctor's appointment all and ask your doctor this, he
does it. And it's I think it's taken me like
sending him off to college for me to feel better
about it and just to just be like, no, let
me let him do it. Let's see if you can
do it, and hand. So we're just used to doing everything.
Speaker 1: Your son goes to Berkeley, got into got into Berkeley,
which is like pretty amazing, and then you were happy
about it being Berkeley, but you were kind of freaked
out it was going to be a bit far, like
having your only child going away to college. And how
has that worked out.
Speaker 2: It's been It's been great. I mean I feel lucky
that in you know, about midway through the college acceptance process,
he decided that he didn't want to go to an
East Coast school, and then you know, we thought he
was going to be in Portland, and now he's in Berkeley,
and so it's like I can look at his location
on my phone and it'll say like Grayson is five
and a half hours away, and that makes me feel better,
like I know that I can jump in my car
and get to him if I need to, but it's
far enough away to where.
Speaker 1: He's got to handle some stuff on it. Oh, and
he is.
Speaker 2: So it's it's a nice balance, I.
Speaker 1: Think, And at first you were, you know, we're kind
of worried. I mean, it was a lot that he
was gone, and is he going to make friends and
is he going to find his way? And he has, right, Yeah,
he has.
Speaker 2: You know, I think it takes him a little longer
sometimes to make friends.
Speaker 1: He's shy, he's a shy kick.
Speaker 2: But he's doing it, you know, like he's getting involved
in things and he's meeting people. The other night he goes, yeah,
I'm going to a birthday dinner of this girl I know,
like I've never heard this name before. Or he's invited
to events. So it's all going well, it's all going well,
I'm happy.
Speaker 1: But sometimes he would tell you like, yeah, I'm gonna
just I'm doing such and such, but just by myself.
And then your little mama heart would be like, wait,
what he's by himself? But he was fine. He was fine.
Speaker 2: I mean he's an only child still, he doesn't mind
being on his own.
Speaker 1: But sometimes I'll go.
Speaker 2: You know, I want you to try and like make
some friends and like reach out to people. I don't
want you to be lonely, like you need some friends,
and well I have friends. I'm like, oh, I didn't
think you had a friend. So girl friend sounds good
to me, but he's just it's always been this.
Speaker 1: Way his entire school career.
Speaker 2: I'm worried about him making friends, and he's fine, Like,
you know, he gets one or two friends and they're
good kids and he's fine. So's it's more me worrying
than him worrying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because I was just talking to my
friend Cecily, who you've met, whose daughter is when of
Elbe's really good friends. She's the only child, and Cecily
was saying that Ava, her daughter is totally fine spending
time by herself, like is not always craving. And I
was like, it's so interesting because and I don't know
if it's because Elb is one of three, but she
does not like being alone. She's never alone. She just
goes from the thing, the thing, the thing, the thing,
you know, whatever her plan is. She's got four plans
on top of that, and if she has one moment
of downtime, she's like, oh no, it's really I'm not
doing anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I wonder if it has to do
with like birth order or number of siblings, or if
it's just a personality thing, like I love being by
myself I am so happy being alone. And I'm the
oldest of three like Elvie, so you know.
Speaker 1: But then Sadie, I almost consider her my my youngest
in a way. H I don't know why. I sort
of almost feel like Xander's kind of in the middle
and Sadie's the youngest for some reason, even though she's
older than Xander by a couple of minutes. But she
loves being alone. Interesting she will turn down plans just because, like,
I'd rather just chill at home by myself. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Somebody literally just texted me five minutes ago to ask
me if I wanted to go to like a really
cool event tonight, and I was like, no, I don't.
I love you for inviting me. Maybe a different day
I would, but.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't want to leave my house tonight, Like I've
been out of my house for the past five days,
and like tonight, I want to lay on my couch.
I want to watch Love is Blind and I don't
want to do anything.
Speaker 1: So you're not caught up on Love is Blind. Well,
the last episode, I saw ten and eleven are out.
Speaker 2: Okay, I saw I think Emma getting married. I think
that was the last thing I saw, that's the last
episode that's out.
Speaker 1: She was getting married and she said yes, and now
we're waiting to see his answer. Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: She did the long like I don't know, said the
same love and I say yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 1: So you're not going to watch it tonight, unfortunately for you.
That is sad. Yeah, I've got a lot of garbage
Friday for everybody else, so they already know the weddings
that happened. Now I've read some spoilers. Well, I read
some Reality Steve spoilers, but already a couple of more wrong.
So now I don't actually know what happens.
Speaker 2: But my only real interests. The only people I have
found particularly interesting are that and Jess like like, they're
definitely like the most interesting dynamic I've watched on this show.
Oh but also there was that other couple that broke
up that I wasn't expecting to break up.
Speaker 1: Are we allowed to say, yeah? Why not? Yeah? By
this point we already know the show's done almost yeah,
So same for the reion that Midwestern breezy and consters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't I didn't expect that. I didn't expect
her to break up with him.
Speaker 1: I did. I never felt like she really liked him.
I felt like she really loved being on TV. Yeah,
and I say that ran its course for her, and
I think she was like honestly, I think she was like,
I can do better, and I don't want to actually
go through this marriage. And I think this, but her
whole speech about yeah, you've really the thing I love
about you is how you've about loving me, like you've
loved me so much, and I just love that about you.
I just oh, it's such a great quality, how much
you just love me. You just love me.
Speaker 2: And it's a shame that you have a keg on
your porch. We're not going to be able to get
past that. But I will take the love that you've
given me, and I'm going to go probably have sex
with that little Chris guy. Yes, yes, Like don't you
think like there was something like he was like that
Chris guy was coming on to her. She said what
she was supposed to say, which is like, no, I'm
with someone, I've committed myself to someone. But you could
tell she was interested.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could tell if you saw the camera
angle from the other side. She was winking at him,
You know what I mean, you just felt you felt
that she was going, like just kidding about the la Yeah, yeah,
I picked this other guy, not for long, just kidding, yeah, Like, yeah,
there's no way those two haven't hooked up. No, Dave,
There's no way. I mean. Also when she was like
telling Honor, hey, he was dming me. He was like
in my DMS, and then Connor was like, oh, give
me your phone, like I'll respond to him. The fact
that she was like no, I was like, oh, because
she's already She's already DMed him. Yeah, she's been with him. Yeah. Yeah,
I don't like I don't like her, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't like her either. I didn't like
her in the Pods at all. And part of the
reason is, and this is very very shallow of me,
I find that the personal style of most of these
contestants is terrible. Like they have the worst taste in
clothes and in hair and in makeup. Like I just
want to give them all makeovers. And that's how I
can make myself a valuable asset to this show.
Speaker 1: Especially the She's a nurse, right, the one that wears
like nineteen eighties dresses and has like right out hair.
Speaker 2: She's a fucking nurse practitioner, she's practically supposedly a doctor,
and she is an idiot. So there is no I
am not buying for one second at that bitche of
the nurse practitioner. And she has the worst style of
any of them. All of it's bad. The dresses, the hair,
the name, it's all bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't can't even remember her name. And that
poor guy Amber. Her name is Amber Amber Jordan No, yeah,
Jordan's his name is Jordan's Jordan, Yeah, for sure, as
a shot to me, oh so poor god. I just
wanted to get back to this really quick because you know,
before we before we end. But is Xander really going
to write a speech? So he's so there's nothing else
he can do except for like impromptu, which he's not
going to do. He's not that good at it. But
he he thinks he's going to write a speech. So
today's Monday. He thinks he's going to write an entire
ten minute speech and memorize it and then perform it
at a speech at a state qualification. And I kept saying, listen,
he doesn't you know me, I'm a no getter. I'm
just like, do you really want to do that? Like
is that seem worth it? And he's like, yeah, I
don't want to not do it. And I'm like, but
it's going to take a bunch of work. He has
seven day a week tech rehearsal right now for his
play which starts soon. So I'm like, but that's going
to take a lot of energy. You're going to be
up some late nights writing and then you have to
memorize it. And he's like, yeah, I'll do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't seem concerned about it, Like, he doesn't
seem stressed about it.
Speaker 1: No, so let him do it.
Speaker 2: Although I will remind you of the time when Grayson
did something very very similar and then failed abysmally, Like,
oh my.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Xander will fail abysmally and he won't
have any other opportunities. Oh, Grayson had the exact same
situation because he had to learn a piece for state qualifiers.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. It was exactly that because his partner veiled
on him right at the last minute, so kind of
it was like this was not a piece he should
have been doing, and he was sort of led astray
by someone in charge. But yeah, it was just this
matter of like learning a ten minute speech of somebody
else's material and then getting a performance ready, and you're
doing it with all these kids who have been doing
the same piece all.
Speaker 1: Year for months and months and practicing and working on
it with the code getting feedback. Yes, so he will
other judge, no feedback, he will learn it, say it
and there will be no tweaking, and it's just like yeah,
and then he won't do well because you can't. It's
like you can't. Although, remember that girl that we met,
the we really liked the mom. I'll just tell you
her name because it doesn't matter, but summer, remember that girl,
she's like a phenom. Well, I remember before the lot
before last year's speech state calls, she wrote an O
O speech like two days before and memorized it and
then killed and made it to state.
Speaker 2: Made it to stay. Yeah, I remember that. I mean, listen,
is there a possibility that Xander could pull this off?
One hundred percent? He's a really good writer, he's a
really talented kid.
Speaker 1: He could pull it off.
Speaker 2: And if he doesn't, he doesn't that at least he
you know.
Speaker 1: But I already signed up to do judging, which is
kind of what I was leading to. So they needed judges,
and I said I would. I asked Andrew, though, I
was like, are you one hundred percent sure? Because I
don't want I have to go judge without you, no like,
and he was like, I'm going to do it. And
I said, okay, So I'm going to judge. And I
guess because I'm going with my friend because you've already graduated.
So I have this other friend named Julie, and Julie
is really excited for me to do it, and she's like,
this is going to be our last time. So I said,
I guess even if Xander ends up bailing, I said,
I'll go with you. Well you like it? I do
like it. I kind of like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thank you. You think you're going to
miss it. I don't think you're going to miss it,
but I feel like if you don't go to this
last one, you're going to have fun all about it.
Speaker 1: I think I will, So I guess if Xander doesn't go,
I'm still going to go. Why not lose loser? Isn't
that hilarious? Though?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 1: You know what? I genuinely had fun at the last one,
and my face favorite thing is to after you've judged
all your events is to go back and see how
bad the other judges fucked it up. Like that, how
I'd see a person and I'd be like, this person
was really good. This literally happened to me. Okay, last
time there was a girl there was it was dramatic interpretation,
and there was a girl and I told this. I
told part of this story on Patreon. Remember the story
that I told you about the one girl who was amazing,
but then there was another girl who was second, second
to amazing. The first amazing girl eked out a win,
but this other girl was really really good, and then
there was some also rans, you know, and then that
girl who was really good didn't even break She didn't
even go to the finals. And I was like, what
kind of meth are these other judges smoking? And then
I had to go and look and I was like
how they scored her low? And I really wanted to
be like, can I get the contact information for these people?
They should not be asked back, I have some feedback
for them. Can I feedback to the other judges?
Speaker 2: Is that a thing we do here in the tabron?
Speaker 1: Let me ask Brandon, is there a way that I
could just get the their email address.
Speaker 2: I know things are like you run a pretty tight ship, Brandon,
but I'm going to try to help you.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's any planet?
Speaker 2: Because I think this will happen, is that you're going
to be asked to judge in the future.
Speaker 1: We're going to do it. You know, you can put
yourself up for paid judging, because you know how the
schools have to pay for judges if they can't if
they can't find enough.
Speaker 2: And once you think you get paid like forty bucks
for the day.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I feel like it's like two hundred.
I feel like it's like substitute teaching.
Speaker 2: Right well sideigs for us.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: What if they just do the professional speech and debate
judge circuit. It is fun, It can be fun, super fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna literally look and do it on tab
room because there's a thing that you can sign up
and put yourself up to be a judge. I wonder
how how zed you have to be. I think you
have to take some of their little courses. But we've
done that, We've done that. Yeah, you have to take Yeah,
this could be this is how we give back but
also get paid. But really I should have a thing
where we have to do it together. Oh yeah, that's
in our contract. Yeah, I feel like, is there a contract?
Is there a contract?
Speaker 2: Like my lawyer look over some things and maybe make
some amendments. So if you could get that over to
me asap, Brandon.
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And then, as always, Kelsey's between two ferns and Christa
gets strapped. Stephanie's a stinker rinker. Sandra, it's not easy
being green, Aaron, You're a dirty Sanchez, Leslie with the coffin.
Get an antibiotic already, Alicia Asclante from the city Ville Wante.
Kelly Brandt is not your aunt. You know what she'll
do though. Rebecca a little and is so cute that ass.
Missy and Gabby two great gals up to bad stuff though,
that's the thing about them. Katerina, make sure you get
regular dental checkups because you're molar. Valerie Bubbafen. We gets
out of the park probably we live your pancakes. Rita
is rocking, Elizabeth Williamson's kids inner, Bassiet and Nikki call
your girl, and Dick is frolicking. Love all you guys.
See you next week. Hopefully Lynette will be all better.
Thank you so much, Tamra, I really appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm so happy to be here anytime, and.
Speaker 1: This is not in place of our lunch.
Speaker 2: Just know that no, we need a lunch.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, everybody, thank you, see you next week.
Speaker 2: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: It's good
Speaker 2: Letting