WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.480 --> 00:00:05.320 This is the baseline, discussing the hot button topics of 2 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:09.039 the nb A. Welcome everybody, your tuned to the baseline. 3 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:12.480 Cali Warrenshaw discussing the hot button topics of the NBA. 4 00:00:12.839 --> 00:00:15.839 And we are on well, I am on location. You 5 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:18.960 know it's supposed to be out here. You know it's 6 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:21.559 supposed to be sunny in California. I don't know. I 7 00:00:21.640 --> 00:00:24.359 must have brought Jersey misery over on this side of things, 8 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:27.960 you know, I gotta tell you. But as always, Man 9 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:30.719 my man show, always looking like he is the ultimate 10 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:36.520 night show host sport in the fresh background and the backdrop. 11 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:38.479 What's good? My brother doing well? 12 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:40.119 Man doing well. 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You can go to 34 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:46.079 www dot nineteen MediaGroup dot com. So, seaw, let's get 35 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.799 right into it, man. So much is happening in the NBA. 36 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.200 It's kind of even, you know, hard to keep your 37 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.359 head still. It's constantly on a swivel when it comes 38 00:01:56.359 --> 00:02:00.040 to the storylines. And obviously the big storyline that I 39 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.120 think really needs to you know, get a little teeth 40 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:07.120 dig ourselves into here is regarding you know, Greg Popovich, 41 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.840 arguably one of the greatest head coaches of all time. 42 00:02:12.680 --> 00:02:17.120 He is finally you know, decided to no longer fight 43 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:20.199 that fight of trying to come back to coach. Obviously, 44 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.240 people who have been paying attention to his circumstances health condition, 45 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.719 suffered a major stroke and has been on the mend, 46 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:32.360 and so basically, you know, all eyes were hopeful that 47 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:35.479 he may come back to coaching, but he even he's 48 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:37.479 realized that, you know, it's time for him to move on. 49 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:42.759 He's not being transitioned to the president of basketball operations 50 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.319 and a senior role. You know, he can't get more 51 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:47.840 senior than than the dynasty that he built with the Spurs. 52 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:50.240 I just wanted to get your perspective on this show 53 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:52.800 because I think we kind of knew that this was coming. 54 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:57.159 I know that a lot of people were probably saying, 55 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.400 maybe Pop has stayed in in the game a little 56 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:03.199 bit longer than than than necessary, But we knew that 57 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:05.639 this was coming. And I just think that it's great that, 58 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:09.159 you know, while he is still healthy and still wants 59 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.080 to be a part of the basketball space, that the 60 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:13.280 San Antonio Spurs found a way for him to kind 61 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:15.840 of exit this spar the stage of his life gracefully 62 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:18.639 and transition him more, you know, into something that I 63 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:20.919 think we's been clearly doing for quite some time. 64 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:25.000 Yeah, there's no there's no doubt about Pop's legacy, his 65 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:27.960 meaning to the game, his meaning to san Antonio specifically, 66 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:30.800 when you talk about somebody who was never going to 67 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:34.479 get fired, you're talking about Greg Popovich. So we know. 68 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.360 I think from the outside looking in that the Wemby 69 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:41.199 introduction into the Spurs organization probably gave Pop a little 70 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:44.840 bit more exuberant and want to kind of have the 71 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:48.280 runway extend a little bit on his coaching career, but 72 00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:51.319 health would not permit for that. So san Antonio doing 73 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.120 a right by a legacy and veteran and Hall of 74 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:56.960 Fame individual and letting him go out on his shield 75 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.159 in the way that he wants to still going up 76 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.120 to the front office to be a part of the organization, 77 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.039 not necessarily retiring, but doing what needs to be done 78 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:06.520 to focus on himself and his immediate family, because his 79 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:08.919 family needs. Basketball is cool at all, and we all 80 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:11.319 love what we cover in the NBA, but nothing's more 81 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.879 important than the family, and nothing more important than your 82 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:16.079 health and you being here in essence to enjoy that family. 83 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:18.199 So he's at a stage now where that makes the 84 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:19.959 most amount of sense for him. I think everybody in 85 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:24.399 the organization is aligned Wemby darn Fox, you know, Chris 86 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:26.839 Paul even to a lesson degree. They understand what needs 87 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.399 to be done here and will he'll be around in 88 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.839 San Antonio, won't be around on some of those away games, 89 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:34.120 and you know, we won't can see him on the 90 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.920 sideland a way that we're used to. But I'm happy 91 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:38.800 for him that he gets to do this in a 92 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:42.519 way that makes sense, to protect his health and to 93 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.240 be with his family first and foremost. 94 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:50.680 I want to say that I'm actually this is an 95 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:54.959 unsuspecting sacrifice that I think is being made here, not 96 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.680 just by Greg Popovich, but you know, unknowingly. The timing 97 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.519 of what he's doing here, I think really helps this 98 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:04.480 kind of take pause on some of the drama that 99 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:08.639 has surrounded, you know, the coaching atmosphere or the coaching 100 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:11.879 ethos that we've experienced over the last couple of months. 101 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:17.279 I really feel like Craig Popovich and Eric Spostra are 102 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:20.000 the last quote unquote of that dying breed. You could 103 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.199 probably throw Rick Carlisle in there, because I think his 104 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:26.519 second stint with the Indiana Paces will serve him properly 105 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:28.680 that if there are any changes that are going to 106 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.439 take place for coaches who have had a lot of 107 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:33.680 teeth in the game, who've shown a level of success, 108 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.639 the organizations are going to do right by making sure 109 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:39.160 that whether or not they land on their feet or 110 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.720 wherever it is that they transition to, it won't be 111 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:47.160 something that's being done just unceremoniously or in a way 112 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:50.800 that really does a disservice to both the organization and 113 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:54.839 also does a disservice to the legacy of the head coach. 114 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.800 And I appreciate the fact that even though the San 115 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:01.759 Antonio's first circumstance is not exactly like that, because it's 116 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:05.360 the San Antonio Spurs, and because it's Great Popovich, and 117 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:10.199 because there is such a long tenure of that Spur 118 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.360 culture that is not being tarnished in the way that 119 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.839 they're handling this, I think helps put a pause a 120 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:19.759 little bit on so much of the negativity that has 121 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:23.399 been surrounding the coaching carousel that's been happening so far 122 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:24.600 this season in the NBA. 123 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:27.759 Yeah, I think we'll and I say this with a 124 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:31.000 certain level of confidence, you know, because we're both air 125 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.199 quote middle age or whatever. So we'll see what happens 126 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.279 after our time as well. But I don't know that 127 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.199 there'll be another Pop, not in terms of another coach 128 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:40.959 who will be able to pass as records in terms 129 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.560 of wins, but somebody that will be with the organization 130 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.839 for basically for the entirety of their career. The league 131 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.560 has transitioned to a way where we want instant gratification 132 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:52.920 and we don't give people fifteen twenty twenty five year 133 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:55.839 runways to be with an organization. It just doesn't happen. 134 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:59.519 So save Spolstra, and we know we talk a little 135 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.199 bit about how that situation is going in Miami, uh, 136 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:03.800 you know, And I don't know what happened once the 137 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.360 Riley regime kind of goes on, you know, and retires 138 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.680 as well. But I don't know that we'll see another 139 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:13.000 pop somebody, just you know that many years in consistency, 140 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:17.759 whether they are winning, middle ground, losing, rebuilding, they stuck 141 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.360 with him and he was a culture of that organization 142 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.560 in a very real and meaningful way. Now passing this 143 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:27.480 on to miss Johnson, and you know, we'll see where 144 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.000 that goes for him. I think he, you know, had 145 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.519 a good year as a first year head coach. But 146 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:34.279 I just feel like, truly we'll never see another one 147 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.959 like pop because the league just isn't formatted in a 148 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:39.240 way to allow for that level of longevity in that 149 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:40.240 specific position. 150 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.240 Yeah. So I just think that when it comes to, 151 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:50.160 you know, the the way we're going to start looking 152 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:54.199 at miss Johnson, we would have to give him leeway, right, 153 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:55.759 we have to give him that opportunity. I think he 154 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:59.120 did an excellent job under the circumstances. And I think 155 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:04.480 that level of confidence that you know, Popovich should have 156 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:07.480 in making sure that he is basically handing the reins 157 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:09.680 over to him, I think you also have to look 158 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:11.720 it well to the fan base. The fan base I 159 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:15.480 think really understands you have a generational talent. I think 160 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.120 they want to be supportive of Mitch Johnson's belief in 161 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:19.959 the future of what the spurs is going to look 162 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.040 like with wembin Yama. And I think the savviness of 163 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:27.519 Greg Popovich, you know, and what he brings, that aura 164 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.600 that he brings, I think lends him well that he's 165 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.159 got a little bit of of of a clearing space 166 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:38.919 for them to go out there and succeed. Listen, Johnson 167 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:41.559 made his bones right. And I think if wee Benyama 168 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:44.639 is on board any of the other prospects that the 169 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:46.360 Spurs are going to be looking at in order to 170 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.759 kind of, you know, bring them along the fold to 171 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:52.120 help round out that roster, they're all on board. I 172 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.399 think he's you know, he's going to be in good hands. 173 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.519 And again, the Spurs, despite something like this, will still 174 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.559 be in contention, right like, they're going to be the 175 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:03.559 conversation of the off season. They're going to be the 176 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:05.879 conversation of what level of improvement they're going to make 177 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:07.360 into the off season, and we're going to have to 178 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:10.559 pay you know, a lot of attention. One thing, I'll 179 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:12.960 say this before we you know, move on to you know, 180 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.159 the rest of our show. I just love the fact 181 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:19.559 that Tim Duncan and Manor Genobli came out there with 182 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:23.480 Papovich and in Popovich style, you know, he's like, listen, 183 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:26.600 I'm no longer the head coach and then you know 184 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.720 he just kind of unveils the jacket and says, I'm 185 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.960 the Hefe. Now you can call me the Hefe right 186 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:38.720 like that. You know, I only dream of having certain 187 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:42.559 head coaches have that kind of flair, who's being able 188 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.759 to flip that persona, that stigma that he's carried that 189 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:50.919 he's just you know, non conversational, he's non approachable. Everything 190 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.120 about him shows you the evolution of a man and 191 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.279 the game of basketball. While it still stays that way. 192 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.919 He himself has never been a about him. It's been 193 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.399 a brud reproach, and I think it's just great to 194 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:08.200 see that he has put himself again in that space 195 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:12.240 where you know, he's gracefully aging, but he's also gracefully 196 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.639 showing as what the game of basketball has done for 197 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:16.600 him and what he's doing for it in return. 198 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.159 Yeah, the driver human and the deadpen. I know there's 199 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:21.360 been a lot of people, including to myself, you know, 200 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:23.639 been afraid and well, I don't have like these great 201 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.840 and gargantuan Papa Bitch stories because I'm not that season 202 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:29.360 of reporter. But I've been in rooms, you know, in 203 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:31.159 a press conference where he is and yeah, I was 204 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.679 afraid to ask a question. But at the end of 205 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:36.799 the day, he's still incredibly humid, and that's the thing 206 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.879 that he didn't always show to everybody all the time, 207 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:44.879 but that was really really relevant and apparent. I think 208 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:47.120 when it mattered most, and he spoke out on a 209 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:51.120 lot of cultural and various issues, you know, when it 210 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:53.360 came to how our country was being run at various 211 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.600 times as well too, to kind of show the type 212 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:58.679 of individual and humanitarian that he really is. Like I said, 213 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.879 twenty nine seasons, five championships, five championships, fourteen and twenty 214 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:06.919 two wins, there's no other like Pop. So we salute 215 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.080 you on an amazing career. San Antonio spurs an amazing 216 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:13.039 organization and what he does now is going into that 217 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.480 front office role. I'm sure that will still be at 218 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.399 the level of excellence that he only the great Papa Bitch, 219 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.559 Great Papa, Great Papa Bitch can deliver. 220 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.240 Yeah, I'm just gonna miss some of that dry humor times. 221 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:24.960 He just won't be in front of the camera nearly 222 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:30.759 as much, but it was always Instagram. 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The baseline is 261 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:37.799 rocking with Prize Picks, and you should to Prize Picks. 262 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:41.120 Run your game coming up, Shaw not get into the 263 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.679 first round impressions. Don't want to miss it Here on 264 00:13:43.799 --> 00:14:03.519 the baseline. We are back Cali Warrenshaw Baseline NBA Podcast. 265 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:06.080 Time for us to get into our first round impressions 266 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:11.279 of the NBA Playoffs. Shaw look it wasn't too too surprising. 267 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.759 I think when we made our predictions as it pertains 268 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:15.360 to who was going to be coming out of the 269 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.200 first round of the playoffs, maybe a little bit of 270 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.720 shake up or maybe you know, may have missed a 271 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.279 tari here there on wins losses. But I think the 272 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:27.840 bigger storyline that has to be discussed is how the 273 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.440 teams were exited. And I think two teams really kind 274 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:35.120 of stick out and resonate with me more than anything. 275 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:40.639 When I think about how the Los Angeles Clippers and 276 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:44.840 how the Milwaukee Bucks were eliminated in the playoffs, I 277 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.519 to me believe that those are two teams people need 278 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:52.360 to pay attention to when it comes to what the 279 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:57.519 offseason expectations might be, what the murmurs and rumblings are 280 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.759 going to sound like. And it it's not so much 281 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:04.240 that I'm thinking that there's going to be drastic, drastic changes, 282 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.799 but I think the way that these two teams performed 283 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:11.360 in the playoffs, how the circumstances played themselves out, I 284 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.840 think now has ramped up a lot more fervor about 285 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:18.080 something needing to be done for both of those organizations. 286 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:20.679 Yeah, so we said even off air, we won't get 287 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:23.559 to top Sea Ish, but at the same time, it 288 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:26.679 needs to be discussed. So you're picking them out. I'm 289 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:29.799 actually going to not necessarily dodge your question, but I'm 290 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:31.720 gonna throw a team that I didn't expect to be 291 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:35.000 out as quickly and in the fashion in that is. 292 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:37.559 And then that's the Lakers. I think I'm disappointed, you 293 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:42.080 know when that so the Clippers, Hey, they drew us 294 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:45.759 in once again, you know what I mean, darkness to 295 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:49.679 my old friend, like, here we go again. And while 296 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.639 they had very every opportunity to win that series, they 297 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.039 blew literally two games in that series and could have 298 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:58.200 won that series and six you know, the miraculous you know, 299 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:01.399 the dunk from from on High with Aaron Gordon, Like, 300 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:03.360 There's just so many things that went wrong for that 301 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:06.080 Clippers team when it comes down to it. But to me, 302 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:10.279 the Lakers are probably the more the most disappointing story 303 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:13.519 in the first round. And I'll only qualify it by 304 00:16:13.559 --> 00:16:16.080 this because I think when the Luka Dakis trade originally happened, 305 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.279 Russia like, okay, well, this is a trade for the future. 306 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:22.639 And then they played, you know, three weeks of pretty 307 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.240 really pretty impressive basketball with the swarming defense that she 308 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.759 thought was going to translate, and it did not translate, 309 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:31.799 you know what I mean as the jen and sharpup Will, 310 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:33.559 I know, he's kind of a person you want to 311 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:36.559 talk about in the in the public public spaces right now. Well, 312 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:38.559 Lakers in five in terms of being out in five, 313 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:41.639 and that's a very very interesting situation that I expect 314 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:43.679 to have to be having at this stage of of 315 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.919 of the season. But if you flip that over to 316 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:50.000 to Milwaukee, it's not so much that they got beat 317 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:53.519 by Indiana. It's the aspect of Dame you know, getting 318 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.559 the Achilles. Now that's going to cost him a good majority, 319 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:58.919 if not all, of next year as well, and that 320 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.840 forces Milwaukee decisions now about Giannis and his future within 321 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:05.880 that organization. So what shakeup seems to be coming in 322 00:17:05.920 --> 00:17:11.000 a real and significant way that will literally transform the league. 323 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.880 If Yannis asked to be out of Milwaukee, that changes 324 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.680 the landscape of whatever team he goes to and has 325 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.759 deep level ramifications throughout the course of the NBA. 326 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.000 All Right, I'm gonna put it like this, because, like 327 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.200 you said, we're not trying to get you know, our 328 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:28.400 top s ish with our assessment of what happened in 329 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:32.599 the first round playoffs. But the reason why I particularly 330 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:37.440 spoke about the Clippers and the Bucks in simultaneously is 331 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.440 because on one hand, we're gonna be asking the question 332 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.960 about whether or not Jannis just wants to be in 333 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.160 this environment any longer, if whether or not he feels 334 00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:52.160 like his time has come playing for the Milwaukee Bucks. 335 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:54.160 That it's not to say that he doesn't love the 336 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:57.640 Milwaukee Bucks, doesn't love the fan basis, but let's just 337 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:01.200 keep it a buck right. The Milwaukee Bucks have shown 338 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.960 that they have literally taken a step back as far 339 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:07.839 as the way that that roster is constructed and what 340 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.720 you're extracting and getting out of it. And I think 341 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:12.920 a lot of it, too, has been the politics of 342 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.519 how the Milwaukee Bucks has gone through this process of 343 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:19.240 putting that roster together, putting the coaching staff together. I 344 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:20.720 think it just gets to a point when you have 345 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.400 a championship caliber player, a player who has basically put 346 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.240 an organization a culture on your shoulders, you no longer 347 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.200 can continue to keep doing this because unless something changes 348 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.839 at the top, or someone's taking what he's saying seriously, 349 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:35.839 valuing where he's coming from about his work ethic, his style, 350 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:37.839 his drive is not being matched with the people you're 351 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.359 bringing to him. That's going to send him somewhere else. Right, 352 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:44.960 So I say that to say something needs to happen 353 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.279 about the coaching situation, because you can't tell me that 354 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.519 the rosters you had last year with that same head 355 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:55.400 coach and they've now again been exited. And I say 356 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:59.440 this tongue in cheek to say, I appreciate, I love 357 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:05.440 and will always respect the head coach, but come on now, seriously, 358 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.400 And so now I take this all the way across 359 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.920 the states to the Los Angeles Clippers, and here's what 360 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.799 I'm saying. It's not that you get rid of Tyron Lou, 361 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.640 but I really think you do have to look at 362 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:21.720 what kind of players does Tyron Lou want and need 363 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.400 that he can get the best out of what you 364 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:27.200 saw in what he's been doing the last few years. 365 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:30.039 We've been saying this for a long time. Shaw. Sometimes 366 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.039 it's great that the organization goes out and just gets 367 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:35.079 players and just say hey, we're going to put you, 368 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:38.160 We're going to give you the best roster possible, and 369 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:42.000 then you see how that roster executes, especially in situations 370 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:43.559 like what we just saw in the first round of 371 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:46.680 the playoffs, and you have to say to yourself, is 372 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.720 that really the way that we want to go about 373 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:50.880 doing it. Maybe we do need to lean in on 374 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:54.480 how a tyrone lu coaches up his team, you know 375 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:56.359 what I'm saying. And then when you have to be 376 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:59.319 dependent on your star players, recognizing that your star players 377 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:01.680 will only get you to a certain point. It's that 378 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:05.480 other aspect of the coaching, right like how he influences 379 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:09.319 the zoo Bots, how he influences those other guys and 380 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:11.279 things of that nature. And to me, I just saw 381 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.359 where to your point, those opportunities that presented itself, where 382 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.160 you're playing against veteran laden teams like the Denver Nuggets, 383 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:21.039 a veteran Layden team like the Indiana Pacer who fresh 384 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:23.839 came off of getting to the Eastern Conference finals, you 385 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:27.680 just don't take those type of matchups lightly, especially when 386 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:30.559 you know that when who you're playing against arguably is 387 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:33.920 going to have mismatched situations kind of come you know, 388 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:36.200 come to fruition. I just found it kind of you 389 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:40.640 know interesting. You saw the contrast in the in mentalities 390 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:44.200 about how these these teams offered itself. You know. So 391 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:46.599 that was just my take from from what I saw 392 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:48.759 from that first round of the teams that disappointed me 393 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:49.200 the most. 394 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:52.640 Yeah, I can see where there's disappointment in that, and 395 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:56.319 I think for me, there's a certain level of respect 396 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.319 I have in losing to Joker, all right. I just think, 397 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:04.440 you know, despite their transgressions and changing coaches right before 398 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:06.799 the end of the season and all of that, Jokers 399 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.440 bought it in a way that we haven't really seen before. 400 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:12.480 And a seven game loss, although the seventh game was 401 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:16.400