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Speaker 1: The following presentation is a Del Marvis Studio's production.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: George Hobbs, Welcome back truth seekers from around the world.

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It's time for another edition of our classic audio series.

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It's been a few weeks since we've done one, and

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this past Wednesday was actually the twenty fourth anniversary of

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the killing of Bill Cooper, So tonight we're going back

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to nineteen ninety two his full uncut interview with CNN

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for new listeners. He's best known for his book Behold

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a Pale Horse. If you have not read it, get

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a copy of it and make sure you get the

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original version that has chapter fifteen in it as well.

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You know, long before the Internet, you know, Bill was

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teaching the truth. Now you can find podcast, YouTube videos

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and rumble. It's it's at everyone's fingertips. But you know,

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Bill was really at the tip of the spear when

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it came to truth seeking in the nineties. He was

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radio host and author, and he truly became one of

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the more controversial figures of the twenty first century. As

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June twenty eighth, two thousand and one, Bill warned something

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was coming right. Osama bin Laden was, you know, the

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most wanted man in the world. Nobody could find him

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except for a CNN reporter and you know, nine to

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eleven happened, and six or seven weeks later Bill was dead.

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This is one of the most watched videos on YouTube

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as far as Bill Cooper series, tens of thousands of views.

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This is again the unedited two hour version of Bill

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Cooper's interview from nineteen ninety two with CNN. God bless

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you all have a great week, and without any further ado,

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here is the one and only Bill Bill.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks for uh agreeing to the interview. First of all, yuh,

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a little bit about your background. You had extensive military

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service for many years prior to uh nineteen seventy where

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a certain aspect of that milit military service kicked upstairs,

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so you were able to see certain things that you

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were not able to see beforehand. You if would you

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tell us a little bit about about that.

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Speaker 1: Uh it it actually started much longer, uh, in my

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past than that. I was reared in the military family.

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My father's an Air Force colonel. He's retired now, he's

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a command pilot, and as a child, I remember sitting

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around in the U. I remember the pilots at our

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house sitting around in the kitchen table UH talking about

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their exploits in the cockpit and UH what they had

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seen in the skies, and some of that talk involved

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UFOs and what someone then called food fighters UH. And

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I traveled all over the world, lived on a military

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basis for most of my life. I was really UH

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UH and then d doctrinated individual you might say I was.

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I was a UH as establishment as you could get,

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as gung ho pro government, pro uh UH America, pro military.

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had been so much of my life. I went into

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the Air Force. I was in the Strategic Air Command

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for four years UH as an aircraft and missile nudraulic technician,

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which is UH. I worked on the UH the uh

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pneumatic and hydraulic systems of B fifty two bombers, KC

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one thirty five aircraft and Minuteman missiles. I had a

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secret security clearance. That's where I saw my first atomic bomb.

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I mean we worked around on these planes UH, especially

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the ones on the UH alert Pad were always loaded

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ready to go drop these bombs at a moment's notice.

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UH sergeants, men who were older than me and had

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me that they had participated in projects that had recovered

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crashed extraterrestrial craft what you call UFOs. And they never

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told these stories and unless they'd had quite a bit

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to drink, so I never really believed it. I thought, well,

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these guys are running a scam on me. You know,

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even though I had heard about these things when I

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was a kid, UH, I just still didn't believe in that.

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something that you really give any serious thought to until

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something personal happens, which came later. Well, I left the

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Air Force, I went into the Navy, UH, which was

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the with the ocean. I was an excellent swimmer, but

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got deathly ill, and the same with boats or anything.

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went around and round, because it just made me tremendously ill.

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gonna go in the Navy because that's really what I

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had wanted to do. So I did volunteered for submarine

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duty and was assigned to the USS tyrou Ss four sixteen,

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which was a diesel electric boat World War two type

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that had been reconfigured. When I went on board the boat,

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it was in the drydock at Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard

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and had literally been cut in half and they had

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put in a twelve foot sonar section and then three

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domes on the deck for triangulating targets using sonar. And

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electronically submarines that we had. Wasn't a nuclear submarine, but

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better capacity to do that than any other boat that

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we had. While we were on a transit from the

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Portland Seattle area on the surface, I actually saw I

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was the port lookout UH and I saw the most

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incredible thing and I think I've ever seen in my life. Uh,

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and it and it had such a profound effect upon

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my view of the universe and the world that we

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live in that I wish everybody could experience this. I

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saw come up out of the ocean from beneath the

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surface of the sea, a huge disc shaped craft about

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the size of a Midway class aircraft carrier, which is

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tremendous in size. Uh. Even though that's one of our

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smallest carriers there was then, it's still a huge, tremendously

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big object came up out of the ocean and rose

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into the air and tumbled on its axis and went

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up into the clouds. And I was awestruck, dumbstruck, and uh,

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I mean dumbstruck. Literally I could not utter a sound. Uh.

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the deck that I'd seen a flying saucer. And then

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luckily for me, I couldn't talk uh because on second thought,

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that's not what I really wanted to say, because I

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didn't want to be the only Looney Tunes character on

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a submarine with a tight knit crew that you had

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to live close close quarters with, because that's Uh, that's

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a hell of a way to live. So I told

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the also the deck that i'd seen something about fifteen

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degrees off the port bow at a relative distance of

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about two and a half doneical miles, And he began

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to look in that area. And the starboard lookout had

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heard me tell him this, and he began to look

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over there. And while we were all three watching, either

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the same craft or another one, exactly like it came

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down out of the clouds tumbled again on. It's why

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it does this maneuver, I don't know, but every single

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time it did it, it's like it came down in

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this attitude and then it flipped over and then entered

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the water. Uh, and the water just appeared to open

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up in front of it. It's just like the the

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count in the in the Bible about the parting of

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the Red Sea. That's exactly what happened. The sea actually parted,

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closed up behind it, and this big spray went up

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into the air. But it wasn't a spray from the

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craft hitting the water. It was a spray from the

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water coming back in to fill up this hole that

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had been created and again, you know, I think it this,

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this is incredible. It's fuel. What are we looking at here?

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wasn't glowing or anything like that. I didn't have any

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lights on it that we could see. But it was

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obviously metal and it was obviously a machine. And although

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as far as I knew, was absolutely impossible. I'd been

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the art of our of our UH aviation capabilities, and

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the Conning tower, and I knew what we had to

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be able to have to go underwater, and I knew

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that the two were incompatible. Here's something that came from

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under the water and flew in the air and performed

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maneuvers and then came back down and interfaced with the

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water at tremendous speed UH and remained intact UH, which

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something had to interface with that. Are anything that we

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had that interfaced with the water in that manner would

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have been disintegrated. It's like hitting a brick wall. So

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I was looking at a technology that, as far as

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our laws, the physics, and what we knew at that time,

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didn't exist. And this was in nineteen sixty six. Uh,

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and insignt Ball was as shocked as I was. He

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called the captain to the bridge, who came up with

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the chief quartermaster, who brought a camera and uh. We

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all stood there and watched this occurrent over and over

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a whole bunch of different craft going in and out

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of the water, but it seemed like that. There was

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and we made no attempt to get closer, and eventually

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it just stopped. We were told not to discuss it

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with anyone, not even amongst ourselves, which was incredible. I

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never had been told anything like that in my life.

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told that we couldn't even talk about it amongst ourselves

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was even more extraordinary, I thought, But we didn't. We

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didn't talk about it when we got to UH Pearl Harbor. Oh.

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of this, so I know photographs were made. UH what

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ashore to to UH go on liberty, even though we

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each one of us individually in the captain's stateroom and

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the UH the ultimate outcome of the debriefing was that

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UH we didn't see anything, We didn't hear anything, and

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that we didn't see, that we could UH be imprisoned.

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UH we could be fined ten thousand dollars, we could

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lose all pain allowances, do wherever to become due. And

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I learned at that moment that the United States Navy

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didn't want anybody to know about what we saw and

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that severe consequences could come down around the neck of

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anybody who did. And that was when I understood fully that, yeah,

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there's a real cover up. These things do exist, number one,

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and at least the United States Navy doesn't want anybody

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Speaker 3: Moving forward a few years from what nineteen sixty six,

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you gained a special security clearance that revealed to you

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certain documents or were revealed to you or that you

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saw relating to this very cover up, to this.

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Speaker 1: And many other things. I was eventually trained by Naval

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United States Pacific Fleet, who was Admiral Bernard Clary at

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that time, and served as a member of his intelligence

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briefing team. And basically all that means we really had

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together in a briefing where we would update him on

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ongoing operations, a brief him about operations that were scheduled

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to begin, political situations, uh, deployment of Soviet forces, naval forces, everything.

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o'clock in the morning, then we were done. You know,

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we were finished. So it was what you call fat

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cat duty or get an duty in the Navy. It's

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got all different kinds of names. It's it's just really

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a a wonderful job. Now. To be able to function

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in this job, I had to have a a security

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clearance which gave me access to the information that I

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had to need to know to help prepare these briefings. Uh,

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and when I first was assigned to the command, I

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was attached to the OPSTAT Office under Lieutenant Commander Mercado UH,

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which was UH operational status reporting. And while I waited

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for my security clearance and it took six months to

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get it when I originally when I eventually ended up

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with was a top secret Q clearance UH with an

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SCI attachment, which means UH sensitive compartmentalized information. And there

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were no blocks. In other words, there there was nothing

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confining me to only certain UH compartmentalized information. I had

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access to whatever the Admiral any staff had access to

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because we had to prepare briefings and brief these people

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on all of these these things. And UH I'm sure

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that at first UH I was tested and wasn't shown

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a whole lot, But eventually, when they began to have

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confidence in me, UH, I began to see things coming

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across my desk that were just absolutely incredible and and

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a lot of it is is really hard to talk

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about because of so far UH outside the normal concept

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of reality for the average American that that they're gonna

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find a hard time believing any of it. But I

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saw documents that were UH labeled UH under the classification

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top secret, and the compartmentalize UH of the compartment that

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that was put into it was called Magic m Ajic,

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which told me that that UFO was a real which

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I already knew I had seen work right, UH. But

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this went farther than that. It told me that they

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were extraterrestrial in origin, that there were four different extraterrestrial

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UH species or races visiting this earth. UH, and that

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they had actually entered into an agreement with the United

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States government with one of these UH species of alien

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beings to exchange technology. And it told me all the

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projects that that uh we underneath. This Project red Light

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was actually the testing of extraterrestrial craft.

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Speaker 3: UH.

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Speaker 1: Project Plato was a diplomatic project. Pounce was the recovery

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of technology. Pluto was the the application of that technology

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to our own secret space program, not the public space program.

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There are two different space programs. One is the what

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the public gets to see, which is overseen by NASA,

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and the other one is a secret space program that

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nobody gets to see, which is really overseen by the

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Navy Department under specialized compartmentalized black projects. And and and

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what these people are doing in secret is just absolutely incredible.

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I also saw documents under an operation called Operation Majority,

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which outlined the plans to bring together a one world

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government and also included extraterrestrial information within that. Project Grudge,

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which was the second project. First was signed, and then

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Project Grudge which contained all of the extraterrestrial information up

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to a certain point and forget the year cut off,

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and then it was contained after that in another project

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called Project Aquarius, which was the accumulation of the whole

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history of alien interaction on the planet Earth. But I

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have to say at this point that I don't know

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if those documents were really telling the truth or not.

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They could have been showing me these things so that

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eventually I would go out and talk about this, and

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maybe that'll become clear to you later why they may

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have done that. It could be real, though.

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Speaker 3: At this point, person from personal standpoint, what was it

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that you know based on your experience in sixty six

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and they said, do not, absolutely, do not reveal this

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to anybody. And here we are a few years later

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and you're seeing documents that prove that you saw what

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you saw was real. What was the one factor or

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number of factors that led you to the decision to say,

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I've got to get this out. I've got to tell

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people about this.

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Speaker 1: I saw contingency plans called majestic, and these contingency plans

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were to well. First place, a contingency is a plan

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that can be implemented if certain things occur. And the

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certain things that would have tripped this contingency plan are

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number one, the public sector is getting too close to

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the truth, so they have to implement this to get

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them steered off the track. Or number two, we don't

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want to tell the public the truth about the alien presence,

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but there is so much alien in activity occurring that

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the public is on the verge of finding out any anyway,

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Let's tell them this story so that it doesn't cause

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consequences that we don't want. And that plan was called majestic.

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I was in a bookstore one time. I had never

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seen UFO magazine, didn't know it, didn't even know it exists.

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In fact, I didn't even know that there was a

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UFO culture in the world of people who uh who

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uh study UFOs or worship UFOs or have little Ufo meetings.

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I had no idea that that was occurring. I was

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in a bookstore one time, and I was looking at

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the magazine rack. I'm an avid reader, and I'm always

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in bookstores and and this one day I saw a

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magazine just popped right out at me at UFO, and

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I picked it up and I looked inside, and here

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is Majestic all right there. And even even the people

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who had been named to implement the plan were the

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ones who were actually implementing it. Uh William Moore, Stanton Friedman.

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I had never heard of Jamie Shanderay, but he was named.

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And they had brought out as a supposed genuine document

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called the Eyesdear, a briefing document, which in reality is

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a fraudulent document. It's a it's a fake, and it

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was created to implement the Plan Majestic, to either indoctrinate

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the public on what the government wants the public to

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perceive is happening, or to steer researchers away from the truth.

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Are both.

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Speaker 3: So this wasn't revealing the plan of Majestic, but it

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was actually implementing the plan.

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Speaker 1: The plan against the public. It was a psychological operation

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against the public. This is what you saw. So immediately

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I began my head began to spin around, and I

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began to thank God. You know, I've got to tell

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people that they're they're being manipulated. This is a lie,

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and it really if the public were using their own intellect,

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they would know that it was a lie. The executive

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order quoted for the for the this document was in

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ninety two thousand something. I believe it was nine to

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four four seven, which is ninety two thousand, forty seven,

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and it was supposed written by Truman. But Truman never

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wrote an executive vote order higher than nine thousand. I mean,

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even today, there's no executive order with the number ninety

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two thousand on it. They've been consecutives since the beginning.

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Speaker 3: So it's clearly fraudulent.

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Speaker 1: So it's clearly fraudulent. But the public that doesn't catch

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on to this. And here you've got Stanton Friedman, one

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of the guys who implemented the Contingency Plan Majestic, running

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around the country telling everybody it's not an executive order,

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it's a date September twenty fourth, nineteen forty seven, which

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it very well could be a date, but it's listed

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in that document as being an executive order of the

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President of the United States, Harry Truman. And because of

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that it's fake, and many other things, but specifically that

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is the most glaring proof of fraudulent intent in the document.

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There are many other things in the document that also

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prove it's a forgery. But here they are, they're running

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this contingency plan, and here I am, I know all

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about it, and here's the public out there biting one.

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They even ran that thing in the New York Times, uh,

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like a two or three page spread showing all the documents. Uh.

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So it had tremendous credibility lent to it by that action.

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And so I decided, uh that I that I had

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to tell the public and uh get people on the

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right track, which is the right track is don't believe anybody.

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Don't believe me, don't believe George Bush, don't believe anyone.

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You gotta go out and you gotta get proof in

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your hand before you can believe anything. And to do

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otherwise today is is the biggest mistake that anyone could

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ever make. You begin believing people, uh, putting your trust

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in them that they're telling you the truth. I guarantee

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you you're gonna take a ride on a roller coaster.

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You don't wanna be on it.

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Speaker 3: Now this this controversy, and I I said, the very

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the very understatement controversy. Yes, Uh it it also is

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now extending, based on some things that you're revealing, uh,

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into the Kennedy assassination.

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Speaker 1: Yes. In the in the set of documents, which really

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was literally two or three file cabinets of documents called

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Operation Majority, Uh, I saw documents which told me what

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happened in Dallas and why. And basically what these documents

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said was that, uh, the Intelodey's community felt that John F.

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Kennedy was a threat to the national security, which translated

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into reality means was a threat to the New World Order,

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the one world government, which they were uh actively in

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the process of.

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Speaker 3: For me, was there anything on record that Hindi indicated

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that he was out to h well, things that he

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he did would threaten that new World order?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely. He had written an executive order. I don't

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remember the exact number now, but it's available to anybody

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that wants to go look it up.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He had written an executive order h ordering the printing

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of United States notes, which would have broken the back

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of the Federal Reserve, which is one of the major

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instruments of propelling the United States and in the new

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World order by destroying our economy, the basis upon which

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we live, the basis upon which our whole society has founded,

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is being ripped right out from unders. That was one

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number two. He refused to provide air support for the

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evasion of Beya pigs, which ensured that that would be

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a failure. He had threatened publicly on several occasions to

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disband the CIA and scatter it to the thousand wins.

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He had ordered in the documents that I saw, he

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had ordered the intelligence community to prepare a plan to

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disclose the truth about UFOs to the public. Now I

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don't know what that truth was, could be that maybe

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there are no extraterrestrials, but whatever the truth was, he

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had ordered a plan to be prepared that that disclosure

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was going to be done according to that plan within

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the following year, and the community consider that to be

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out of the question. And according to the documents that

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I saw, his assassination was ordered by the Policy Committee

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of the Builderberg Group, which is really the secret world government,

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and was carried out by agents of Division five of

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the FBI, the Secret Service, the Central Intelligence Agency, and

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the Office of Naval Intelligence of which I was a

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part in Dallas, and it said that the assassin, the

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man who actually administered the head wound, was the driver

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of the car, William Greer, a Secret Service agent who

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used an assassination pistol built by the CIA four assassinations

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that was really an air gun that fired an exploding

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pellet or could fire a small hypodermic needle or a

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poisoned dart using any one of many different deadly poisons. Specifically,

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it said that he fired an exploding pellet which contained

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shellfish toxin, and that the act was plainly visible in

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a film with from the public. I looked for sixteen

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years to find that film, and I finally found a

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copy that showed we turned around and shoot the president.

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And since nineteen eighty eight, I've been showing that film

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wherever I'm able to show it to wake people up.

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It is not our government, though you have to understand

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that it's doing these things. It is not our government

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that's failing us. It's not the Constitution or the Bill

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of Rights that's a bad instrument. It is a group

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of men who belong to secret societies, who have infiltrated

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our society and our government at all levels and are

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destroying it and subverting it from within. And every member

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of Naval Intelligence that I knew who was an officer

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was a thirty second or a thirty third degree free Mason.

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And I asked my commanding officer at one point, I said,

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why are all you guys Masons? He said, Masons are

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used to keeping secrets. It's part of their eternity. So

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if you want someone who already knows how to keep

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a secret, you recruit Freemasons. Well, later on I found

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out what the truth is. The truth is is you're

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not going to be a Naval Intelligence officer unless you

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are a Freemason or remember the ancient order that rose

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and cross, but you have to be high degrees for that.

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I think the reason I was selected is listen, mean,

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is because I had belonged to the Demalay Society, which

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is why as a teenager, that's sort of the first

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level of Freemasonry. That's how they recruit teenagers and indoctrinate

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them into their principles so that they go right into

479
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:45,960
Freemasonry when they become an adult. So basically that's the story.

480
00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, based on the information that you're revealing which

481
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:53,640
would seem to be equally or if not more of

482
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,359
a threat than what Kennedy was originally planning on doing.

483
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,720
ISR is actually revealing the underlying cause of all of this?

484
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,519
Why is it that you are here today or how

485
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:04,160
is it that you are here today and you're not

486
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:08,240
conveniently taken away and put in a padded cell somewhere

487
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,759
so that you can't speak of these things?

488
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,319
Speaker 1: Well, I really don't know the true answer to that question,

489
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:16,519
because you would have to ask them to find out

490
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:20,240
why they haven't done anything. But I can tell you this.

491
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,960
I began to reveal information in nineteen seventy six, and

492
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:29,519
I was physically attacked on two occasions. My skull was

493
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,400
caved in. That's what all these scars are here. On

494
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:35,759
the second attack, I lost my leg. They visited me

495
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:38,240
in the hospital. They had no intention of killing me.

496
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,240
They were delivering a message to me shut up. And

497
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,400
that was the message that came through loud and clear,

498
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,440
and two men who identified themselves with the identification cards

499
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:54,559
who belonged to the Defense Investigative Service, which is really

500
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:58,440
the Defense Intelligence Agency, asked me if I was going

501
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:00,759
to shut up or they were going to have to

502
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:03,960
to do it right. And I told them, I said,

503
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,440
you don't have to worry about me. I'm going to

504
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:07,319
be a good little boy for the rest of my life.

505
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,039
And yeah, I'm going to shut my mouth, and I

506
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:13,000
did for sixteen years, kept silent until I saw this

507
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,960
UFO magazine in a bookstore which indicated that they had

508
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:28,480
implemented the contingency plan called Majestic. But if you want

509
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,920
to know what I think the reason is, I believe

510
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:35,200
that there are several one They've had a plan that's

511
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,799
been in force since the forties to debunk, ridicule, destroy

512
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,359
anybody whoever talks about these subjects, and the public has

513
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,240
been thoroughly indoctrinated that if you talk about any of

514
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:50,319
these things that I'm talking about, you're just another net.

515
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,440
So the public by and large doesn't pay any attention

516
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,279
to it. So in that sense, I'm not a threat.

517
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,519
If the President had come on television and said, hey,

518
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,119
this is what's going on, then they would have listened

519
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,319
and they pay attention to it. But people like me,

520
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,559
they perceived me as being just another luney ban fruitcake,

521
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:11,440
a net, which I assure you I'm not. But that's

522
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,200
the perception that they've been brainwashed into believing, and so

523
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,279
that's what they believe. Number Two, I am so much

524
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,960
in front of the public from the very beginning when

525
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,359
I began to talk, and that's how I protected myself,

526
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,680
or at least that's what I thought would protect me,

527
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,480
and so far it's proven to be right. Was that

528
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:34,440
if I got literally in front of the public overnight,

529
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,519
in front of a large public, that they wouldn't do

530
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:41,319
anything to me because it would substantiate what it was

531
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:43,599
that I'm saying, and they certainly don't want to do that,

532
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:48,319
but also create a martyr, and martyrs create tremendously dangerous

533
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:54,240
political movements that they don't want that either. So literally,

534
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:56,960
within a twenty four hour period, I spent twenty seven

535
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:01,599
thousand dollars mailing a thick packet of information all over

536
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,599
the world to people I never heard of, didn't know.

537
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,720
We went down and got some mailing lists and just

538
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,480
mailed this stuff all over the world. And so literally

539
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,480
when people opened these packages in their mailbox, and it

540
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,079
was a perfect plan because they couldn't stop it. They

541
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:17,480
didn't even know I was gonna do it in the

542
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,359
first place, and since we sent it all over the world.

543
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,400
Once it was out, There's no way they could retrieve it.

544
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,119
There's no way that I can conceive of. So literally,

545
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:33,079
within twenty four hours, I was a public presence and

546
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,240
people were asking all over the world, Who's Bill Cooper?

547
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,279
Is this true? Look what I got in the mail

548
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,559
and just literally flipped the flip the world over on

549
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:46,200
its ear. And I've been in front of the public

550
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,519
ever since. So I think basically those are the reasons

551
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:51,599
they don't believe that the public's really gonna listen to me,

552
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,839
And so far that's been true. There is a small

553
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,599
group of people all over the world who are awakening,

554
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,880
who are beginning to understand that they've been living their

555
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,440
life in fantasy and who are actively seeking the truth.

556
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:13,319
But by and large, when the Secret Power Structure says,

557
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680
as I've put in the first chapter of my book,

558
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,119
right out of one of their own technical manuals, that

559
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,680
a nation or world of people who do not use

560
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,039
their intelligence are no better than animals who do not

561
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,480
have intelligence, and thus there are stakes on the table

562
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:31,880
by choice and consent. They're absolutely right about the majority

563
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,559
of people. It's one of the things that has been

564
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:41,119
an illumination to me is that they're not always wrong,

565
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:46,039
and many of their goals are the right goals, but

566
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,000
the method that they're using to reach that goal is

567
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:53,039
the wrong method. In other words, if you set out

568
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:55,160
to create a perfect world where there will never be

569
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,440
any more killing, but to reach that point you kill

570
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,880
two billion people, you have become what you're trying to avoid.

571
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,960
And it can't happen that way. If you want to

572
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,400
create a world of peace, it has to be done

573
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:19,320
by people. Means, yeah, if you murder someone to destroy

574
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,719
a murderer, you have become what it was you set

575
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,199
out to destroy, and thus it wasn't destroyed at all,

576
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,440
it was perpetuated by that very action. And that's what

577
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,320
these men are doing. They rationalize everything they do so

578
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,800
that they feel better about it. But what they are

579
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,719
doing is becoming what it is that they want to

580
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,159
get rid of. And the world will never be a

581
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,679
safe place for anyone as long as there are men

582
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,599
who do these things.

583
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: Very eloquently said thank you.

584
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: Now.

585
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 3: Your message to people once again is don't believe anything.

586
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,159
How is it that the public can find this and

587
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,280
you know, search for this truth on their own if

588
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,840
they can't believe anything or anyone.

589
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all in the public sector. It's all

590
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:10,599
available to anyone who actively and diling diligently seeks it out.

591
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,960
Everything that's that's in my book Behold a Pale Horse

592
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,440
is all everything in here, all the documents that are

593
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,159
in here, everything that's in this book is in the

594
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:26,559
public bed. Yes, And I intentionally wrote this book not

595
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:30,239
using anything that wasn't available to the public, to show

596
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,320
people that, yes, if I can find this information, so

597
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,920
can you. I have tons of stuff that's not available

598
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,239
to the public. But as you can see by reading

599
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,320
this book, you don't need that stuff, because it's what

600
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:51,000
you need is available to public. Libraries are are overflowing

601
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,280
with the proof of what's really going on in the world,

602
00:35:55,119 --> 00:36:00,760
but nobody really utilizes it to the extent that they're

603
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,880
able to pick this out and put it together. Another

604
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,840
thing I've done for people is I put it together

605
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,039
for them so that they can see the overall picture,

606
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:15,519
rather than looking at small things and thinking that it's isolated.

607
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,519
Nothing is isolated. It's all part of a big puzzle,

608
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,559
and the puzzle is coming together. And when the puzzle

609
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,360
is a symbol, it's going to be a one world

610
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,000
totalitarian socialist government that nobody's going to like except the

611
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,079
people that are running it. It's Hitler all over again.

612
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:35,119
And the rationalization is we're going to create the world

613
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:40,199
without Waria, the utopia. But they will never create that

614
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,599
utopia because they're not dealing with the problem that makes

615
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:46,519
them want to create it, and that is the inherent

616
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,960
flaw in each individual human being that makes us do

617
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:54,960
the things that we do. Until that's overcome, there's never

618
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,599
going to be a world without war, or without rape,

619
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:01,000
or without killing or without robbery. Any anybody that thinks

620
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,920
that there is has already gone off the deep end.

621
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: So the method is here. I'm gonna hold a gun

622
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,320
to your head so you won't breape, you won't kill.

623
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:13,320
That's right, Yes, okay, I understand the title of your book,

624
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,719
Behold a Pale Horse. What significance does that have you?

625
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,320
What are you saying with this title?

626
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: This title is from the Book of Revelations, because I

627
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000
have to tell you this, and you may think I'm

628
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,880
nuts if you want to, but this is the truth.

629
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:31,119
Either these men are following the Book of Revelation. The

630
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:34,480
Book of Revelation is it is in the in the Bible,

631
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:41,880
they're either following it just like a plan, and bring

632
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:46,719
the prophecies in there to pass, to manipulate and control

633
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,480
those who believe in those prophecies, and neutralize them, so

634
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,599
to speak. In other words, if this is written in

635
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,079
the Bible and God has ordained it, who am I

636
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:57,840
to resist? It must come to pass, So I'm not

637
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,800
gonna I'm not gonna try to stop it. What a

638
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,239
perfect way to neutralize the opposition right off the bat

639
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:10,000
are there really is a God? And what he said

640
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:11,960
was going to come to pass is coming to pass.

641
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,320
And I name this behold a pale horse. From Chapter

642
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,840
thirteen of the Book of Revelations, the fourth horse, the

643
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,199
fourth horseman of the Apocalypse is the pale horse. And

644
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,840
I looked and behold a pale horse. And his name

645
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,840
that sat upon him was Death, and hell followed with him,

646
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,239
and power was given unto them over the fourth part

647
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,400
of the earth to kill with sword and with hunger,

648
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,480
and with the beasts of the earth. And that is

649
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:47,239
taking place now today. The fourth Horseman is riding across

650
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,760
the world. Now, that's what aids us all about. That's

651
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,039
what all these little brush fire wars all over the

652
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,480
world are all about. That's what's happening. That's why cancer

653
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:02,360
cures are suppressed. It is because they fully intend to

654
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,639
kill a minimum of two billion people by the year

655
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:09,079
two thousand. AIDS is an invention of man. It is

656
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:12,000
not a natural disease, and it has been implemented and

657
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,840
placed into the population as a population control. And when

658
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,039
they did it, they had the cure before they did it.

659
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,760
And when they've deemed that enough people have died or

660
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,599
been killed, they will say we have a cure for AIDS,

661
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,639
and everybody will be called to report to some place

662
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,519
to get an inoculation which is gonna do two things well,

663
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:35,920
and it's gonna stop AIDS in its tracks. And number two,

664
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,360
it's gonna implant the device which will be able to

665
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,480
be used to track each individual person and maybe even

666
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,920
to control those people. And that's what the pet implant

667
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,119
program is all about. It's not about finding lost pets.

668
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:50,960
They don't give a damn about pets, and they would

669
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,519
never put a satellite in orbit to find a lost pet.

670
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,639
But yet there's a satellite up there that they're using

671
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,320
to find pets that have men implanted with these devices.

672
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,840
They're testing this program on pets that's going to be

673
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,480
used in human beings. And in the Los Angeles Times

674
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,840
in nineteen eighty nine they ran an article that was

675
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,480
ten Forecasts for the coming decade. Was the title of

676
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,239
the article. I have a copy of it in my

677
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:18,280
research center. And number five, I believe it was number

678
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,400
five in those ten forecasts for the coming decade was

679
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:27,559
chemical or electronic implants to control individual behavior on a

680
00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:34,119
twenty four hour basis unquote. So it's not hidden at all.

681
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,159
It's there for anybody who wants to look.

682
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,079
Speaker 3: That nobody's looking.

683
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,079
Speaker 1: Nobody's looking. They believe, and I believe that they're right,

684
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,559
that the biggest danger to mankind right now is man himself. Population.

685
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,960
A study in nineteen fifty seven told them that by

686
00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:56,519
nineteen ninety the world population would double in thirty three years.

687
00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:01,079
You imagine that the world population of human beings doubled

688
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:04,519
in thirty three years, and they knew that it's an

689
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,960
exponential doubling throughout history. Every time it's doubled, the interval

690
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,960
has gotten shorter. So that was thirty three years. The

691
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,800
next doubling will take place in approximately twenty eight years.

692
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,000
The next one after that, approximately twenty four years. Can

693
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:22,079
you imagine if the world population doubles again in twenty

694
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,159
eight years from nineteen ninety. In other words, in the

695
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,440
year twenty eighteen, the world population doubles, and we're having

696
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,280
problems with food supplies and timber and clean water and

697
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,880
clean air now, and then after that it doubles again

698
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,360
in another twenty four years. That's why they created AIDS,

699
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,199
because they didn't want to have to go around the

700
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,599
world and say you, you, and you up against the wall,

701
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:53,119
you've got to die today and shoot them. They did

702
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,840
it in a manner to where they could target what

703
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,880
they considered to be undesirable populations. And I want it

704
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:04,519
very clear that with them on this, they specifically targeted blacks, Hispanics,

705
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:09,840
and homosexuals for complete eradication, and AIDS is really going

706
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:16,119
through those populations and it's really doing a number that blacks, Hispanics,

707
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:17,480
and homosexual.

708
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:22,159
Speaker 3: Theory has made news. I've heard that before and very

709
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,119
clear by the poblic saying oh, that's ridiculous, But you're

710
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,280
saying that, well, that may indeed be the case.

711
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,639
Speaker 1: It's not ridiculous. I actually saw this in documents and

712
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,760
the project name was Project Naomi. MK. Naomi was the

713
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,320
name of it. It was a CIA project. The aid

714
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,119
AIDS whatever causes AIDS, whatever that turns out to be

715
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,400
according to those documents, was developed at Fort Dietrich, Maryland

716
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,119
under a CIA project called mk NAOMI. It was financed

717
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:54,119
by ten million dollars for the Department the Army's biological

718
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:59,719
warfare programs. It was carried out as supervised by the CIA.

719
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:03,280
It out by scientists who work for the Special Operations

720
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Division of the Department of Defense. And it's going. It's

721
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,039
doing its job.

722
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,199
Speaker 3: And would you assume if age doesn't work, there's a

723
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,000
contingency plan for that even.

724
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,199
Speaker 1: Well, I think that they have other things out there

725
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,000
working concurrently. One thing I've learned about these men is

726
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,039
they don't just do one thing in case the public

727
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,519
discovers what they're doing, our discovers that somebody's or whether

728
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:30,039
they know who's really doing it or not, and stops it.

729
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:36,599
What they have running is several concurrently running plans so

730
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:38,559
that if one or two fail, the other ones are

731
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:39,920
going to take care of the problem.

732
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:43,639
Speaker 3: It sounds pretty hopeless, I mean, based on that scenario,

733
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,679
is there anything any any uprising or what?

734
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:50,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is, but it requires that people wake up

735
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:54,480
requires that they really learn the truth instead of live

736
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:57,400
their life and fantasy live. You see, because nothing can

737
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,639
exist without the consent of the Unless they buy it,

738
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,880
it's not going to happen. And all of these plans

739
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,320
that lead to the public's ultimate acceptance of what they're

740
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,679
going to do, in fact, they're designed to make the

741
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:16,280
public ask for it. For instance, the burning of the

742
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,920
rainforest in Brazil. I know people who are just up

743
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000
in armed stop this. We've got to stop the burning

744
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:26,880
of the rainforest, which is exactly what the burning of

745
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,360
the rainforest is designed to do. Because Brazil is a

746
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,519
sovereign nation, right, How can you tell a sovereign nation

747
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:39,440
to stop burning its own forest. You can't. What they're

748
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,440
asking for is control over a sovereign nation by a

749
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:47,880
world governing body who can then send troops a police

750
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,599
force to make Brazil stop burning the rainforest. And that's

751
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:53,800
why they started the burning of the rainforest in the

752
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,559
first place. You see, they went down there and they

753
00:44:58,639 --> 00:45:03,119
built a road across the Amazon jungle that went nowhere.

754
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:05,760
There was no reason for this road to be built.

755
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,199
There was no place to go. It doesn't go from

756
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:11,079
here to a city. On the other side. It just

757
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:14,599
goes across the jungle and ends. And they built this

758
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,000
road on purpose because they knew that most of the

759
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,000
people in Brazil are so dirt poor that they would

760
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:25,679
see this road as the answer to their prayers, free land,

761
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,079
free timber, a way to support their family, a way

762
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,639
to become wealthy, or at least more wealthy than they were,

763
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:39,440
which was no wealthy. And that's exactly what happened. Millions

764
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,960
of people headed out down this road and staked out

765
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,880
some land and burned the forest and tried to grow crops,

766
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,159
and they found that rainforest is no good for growing crops.

767
00:45:48,199 --> 00:45:50,599
It'll grow one crop and then you gotta go burn

768
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:53,840
more trees and plant another crop because the soil is poor.

769
00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:00,639
And that's what's happening, and that's why the forest being burned.

770
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,639
And it was done intentionally to create the scream of

771
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,880
stop burning the rainforest, so that then they could offer

772
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,440
the solution. The solution is a world governing body that

773
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:16,440
can then order and enforce that order of Brazil to stop.

774
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: So the green movement worldwide as a manipulation. Manipulation, Yes,

775
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,639
now it's been it's been proposed time and again too.

776
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:29,719
That big businesses behind things like this, and that would

777
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,119
present represent a capitalist approach. But what you're saying is

778
00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:36,920
we're heading toward a socialist approach. Based on the scenario, you.

779
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,679
Speaker 1: Have to understand the difference between capitalism, socialism, communism, what

780
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,519
all of these things really mean. You have to understand

781
00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:48,840
that what the difference is between right wing and left

782
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,119
wing people. They use these phrases all the time and

783
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:55,239
they don't even know what these things mean. And it's

784
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,960
just incredible to me to hear a socialist calling someone

785
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:05,639
else a Nazi, because Nazi means national socialism. So here's

786
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:10,760
a socialist calling a right wing guy a Nazi when

787
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,840
he what he should be calling the right wing guy

788
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,079
is anarchist. People in the right what no control. They're

789
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:18,119
really anarchists.

790
00:47:18,599 --> 00:47:21,039
Speaker 3: So they would in it in theory then, or in

791
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:26,239
fact be in opposition to this ultimate movement, yes, whereas

792
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,440
in appearance they would be the ones behind it.

793
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,639
Speaker 1: Well, when you have a misunderstanding what the terms mean, yes, okay,

794
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,199
right wing on the far right, there's total anarchy. They

795
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,920
don't want anybody controlling anything that they do, and they

796
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,159
believe that people are responsible enough that the world can

797
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:46,000
exist without government. Okay, are the very minimal government that

798
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:49,239
it would take uh to. On the far left, on

799
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,519
the other hand, they believe that the government should be

800
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:55,079
in total control and should be uh supply man with

801
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:55,519
all of his.

802
00:47:55,559 --> 00:48:01,199
Speaker 3: Needs, creating a whole society. That's uh right.

803
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,199
Speaker 1: A republic is somewhere in the middle. It's governance by laws.

804
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,079
Laws are decided by representatives who are elected by the people,

805
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,239
and according to the theory, the representatives will do what is

806
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,320
right whether they get elected or not. Because it's not

807
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:24,519
really a democracy. A democracy is far left. People don't understand.

808
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:26,719
We don't live in a democracy. This country is not

809
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,159
a democracy. It is a republic. A democracy is ruled

810
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:35,960
by the mob. The mob always votes themselves every kind

811
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:41,320
of benefit that they can vote themselves, and whenever you

812
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,159
do that, it means large, tremendously overpowering government in control.

813
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 3: They vote themselves into dependency.

814
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:51,639
Speaker 1: That's it. They vote themselves into a dictatorship is what

815
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:53,880
they do, where they lose all of the benefits that

816
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,840
they pretended to vote themselves into in the first place.

817
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,679
And democracies are extremely dangerous to minorities because if the

818
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,679
majority of people don't like you taking a vote that

819
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:09,400
they kill you, and you know that's it. Democracies are dangerous.

820
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,320
Democracies are socialists. Democracies are communism. It's what communism is.

821
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,880
The definition of communism is everybody doing according to their

822
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:26,760
talents and receiving according to their need, and it doesn't work.

823
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,519
They already know it doesn't work. Men, by his inherent nature,

824
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,840
is greedy, so those at the top always end up

825
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,000
having everything and those at the bottom end up having nothing.

826
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:45,320
In communism, socialism is different. Socialism usually ends up in

827
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,840
a dictatorship, in a very controlling, dictatorial government which even

828
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,320
owns the people that it governs, so that those who

829
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,559
live in fear of not having are provided for what

830
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:02,079
they need, and in turn they worshiped this oppressive government.

831
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,039
Socialists are children who went out into the world, took

832
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:07,920
a look around and said I can't handle it, and

833
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,400
went home to Daddy. Okay, Daddy protect me, Daddy feed me,

834
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,920
Daddy owed me your car, Daddy took me in at night.

835
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:22,079
Socialists are scared little children who are irresponsible, can't stand

836
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:24,039
on their own two feet, and need Daddy to take

837
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:28,679
care of them. Okay, okay, But what happens when you

838
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:30,760
go home to daddy, and Daddy does all these things

839
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,639
for you tell.

840
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: Me, well, you never leave it a home you have

841
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,360
not got no reason to. In other words, if you're

842
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,159
being provided for in that way.

843
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: You're being provided for. But what does it mean. Doesn't

844
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,119
it mean that you have to do what Daddy tells

845
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,519
you to do? True, doesn't mean you have to be

846
00:50:46,559 --> 00:50:48,440
in when Daddy tells you to be in. Doesn't it

847
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,199
mean that you can't drive the car to the next

848
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,559
town if Daddy tells you you can't. Doesn't it mean

849
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:55,239
that if Daddy tells you to take out the trash,

850
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,119
you better take out the trash. Are you beginning to

851
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:03,199
understand the concept when you ask for favors from Daddy,

852
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:07,960
you have to give up freedom in return. So socialism

853
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:15,079
always leads to repression of liberty, freedom, equality, all of

854
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:17,840
those things fly out the window. So that you can

855
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,079
have free health care, so that you can have a

856
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,599
place to live, but you don't have to pay the rent,

857
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:27,039
so that you can have food given to you by

858
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:32,800
the state. And that's where we're headed right in this country.

859
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,480
Right now, we're almost totally socialist, and now people are

860
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,480
screaming for a national health care policy. Right health care insurance.

861
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: Now, the other aspect once again i'd like to go into,

862
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,760
is the anarchy or the right wing, which we just

863
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,159
into that similar.

864
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:53,559
Speaker 1: Anarchists believe that they can be responsible, that they won't

865
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:58,199
hurt other people, okay, that your freedom never ends until

866
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,760
it begins to infringe upon someone else's freedom, and that

867
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,119
no one should have any control over that. That there

868
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:07,760
should be no speed limits on the highways. The problem

869
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,320
is that, again, just like on the socialist side, you

870
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,119
have people over here that are human, and human condition

871
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,239
means that ultimately somebody is not going to be responsible,

872
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,880
that they're going to drive too fast when they've had

873
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,239
too much to drink, and they're going to kill innocent people.

874
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,920
The answer is a balance. You know. The law of

875
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,880
the universe says this. It's a law physics really that

876
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,960
everybody can understand it. For every action there is an

877
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:43,320
equal but opposite reaction. There can be no good unless

878
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,480
there is evil. There can be no man without a woman.

879
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:51,440
You understand the.

880
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,039
Speaker 3: Concept based on that. The theory of a utopia here

881
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:59,440
on Earth is corrupt right away. Absolutely, it goes against

882
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:00,719
the laws of physics.

883
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,159
Speaker 1: It goes against the law of the universe that there

884
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,599
must be two opposing forces all the time in every instance,

885
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,039
because that's what makes the universe work, That's what makes

886
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:15,039
everything work. What we need to do is stop trying

887
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,599
go well to hear and establish some utopia of freedoms.

888
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Are wall to hear, to establish some repression of freedom,

889
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,880
so that we make sure that we got something on

890
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,519
the table to eat, and strike a balance between the

891
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:37,000
two that works, and stop withholding information. What makes it

892
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:40,480
difficult for anyone to succeed or live are for us

893
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,800
to really come together and have peace in this world.

894
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,159
Are all of these people who think that they are

895
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:48,239
the guardians of the secrets of the ages and have

896
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,800
only them have truly mature minds, so only them are

897
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,360
worthy of knowing the secrets and the real science and

898
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,039
the real metaphysics and all of these things. So they

899
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:03,119
repress it and they keep it secret. So the rest

900
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:04,760
of us live out our lives and we don't know

901
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,960
the truth of what life is really all about. Therefore

902
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,239
we're always stumbling over each other and getting in each

903
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,280
other's way and doing the things that we profess that

904
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,280
we don't want to do, simply because we don't have

905
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,800
access to the truth. If we had access to the truth. Now,

906
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,639
I got to tell you this. Back when these men

907
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,039
first began establishing these societies, these mystery schools and suppressing information,

908
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,440
the common man was uneducated, did not have an intellect

909
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:38,559
capable of understanding these secrets. They were really beasts of

910
00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:42,320
burden for the most part, and they've lived their whole

911
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,559
life in toil. But things are not that way now.

912
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,440
Most people have a good education, they have a good mind.

913
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:54,840
They're capable of understanding if they're talked and if they're

914
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,760
taught correctly. And I think it's time to teach people

915
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,639
what the truth is and quit hiding it so that

916
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:06,400
we can come together as one humanity and make a

917
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,280
balance and live together in a balance. You know, evil's

918
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,239
never gonna disappear, neither is good, but we can maintain

919
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,440
a balance and life can be good instead of swinging

920
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:23,599
back and this tremendous battle between these two opposing radical

921
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:31,159
extreme ends of the scale, that's gotta stop. I've never

922
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,400
understood why somebody would join together in this band of

923
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,679
people and call himself a Democrat and not vote for

924
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:43,400
anybody else if they're not a Democrat. That concept is

925
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,760
beyond my understanding and Republicans and libertarians and populous and

926
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,519
communists and socialists in this and that, Blacks and whites

927
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:54,079
and the Indians, and there are so many sects and

928
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:57,800
groups and segments, and we're so fragmented that getting together

929
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,760
is gonna really be difficult. M But we've got to

930
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,320
do it because if we don't wake up and do

931
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,800
it ourselves, these men who meet in secret and plot

932
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,840
the manipulations are going to do it whether we want

933
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:12,920
it or not. And they're going to do it at

934
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,000
the point of a gun. And they're going to take

935
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,199
away everybody's freedom because they don't consider us.

936
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 3: Responsible, capable of having that freedom.

937
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: Are capable or even of using our intellect. So they'll

938
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,800
put us in shackles and control us and force us

939
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,519
to be peaceful. That's what the plan is, and that's

940
00:56:31,519 --> 00:56:33,199
what the New World Orders all about.

941
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: Well, we've run from UFOs right to this, and at

942
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,599
first a person might watch this and say, wow, this

943
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,800
is really strange, but where we've come down to based

944
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,000
on that beginning is quite quite in the realm of

945
00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:51,719
common sense.

946
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,599
Speaker 1: Well, it's not strange at all. It's what they've been

947
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:57,320
trained all their life that if they hear these buzzwords.

948
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,280
They're listening to some looney idiot talk and it has

949
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,519
no substance to it. Once they get into it, then

950
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,599
begin to understand that everything is interconnected. It's leading us

951
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:12,280
toward one end of one world totalitarian socialist government, and

952
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,880
begin to see it coming to pass all around them

953
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,599
in their life and understand that nothing happens by accident,

954
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,000
it's been planned for many years. Then they begin to

955
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:29,559
understand that UFOs play a big role in this, because

956
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:31,880
if they're real, it's the most significant thing that's ever

957
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,599
happened in the history of man, and maybe the driving

958
00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:40,960
force behind locking up the human race. Because how could

959
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,239
a UFO land in a place like Macon, Georgia and

960
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,920
somebody who doesn't look like us get up, get out,

961
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,519
walk down the street. And I'm not trying to insult

962
00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:52,840
the citizens of the state of Georgia. What if they

963
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,280
landed in New Jersey and got out and walked down

964
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,159
the street in a society that kills people because they

965
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:01,599
sit in the wrong seat on a bus.

966
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,039
Speaker 3: Now that they don't know about.

967
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Us, of course they would. They probably already know about you.

968
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,920
If you've been exposing the truth on your show.

969
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: Well you're saying that our our our U our phone

970
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:12,639
lines would be bugged.

971
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: At this point, I don't know. I doubt it. They

972
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,440
don't really uh consider you to be a threat unless

973
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:26,079
you develop a large political following. Okay, So unless you

974
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:28,360
have a large political following, you're not considered to be

975
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,039
a threat to them, not yet, kin, cause they figure

976
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:33,320
that the people are too stupid to listen to you anyway,

977
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:36,119
and generally they're right.

978
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: So we're in the process of educating people.

979
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: Then there's the best thing. Education is sixty or seventy

980
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,920
percent of the battle. Yeah, cause people automatically begin to

981
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,280
do the right things once they learn what the truth is.

982
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:04,119
Speaker 3: Kact Yeah, no, old no, Okay, I got it right ready, Okay,

983
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:10,400
go ahead. Let's go back into the Kennedy situation here. Now,

984
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,400
the Warren Commission was highly publicized, all the things that

985
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,239
went on there. I was, I was showing a videotape

986
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:23,400
just yesterday of was it a Zepbruder film? Okay, and

987
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,519
it clearly showed to me that a number of things,

988
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:29,800
one in which that the film was obviously tampered with, absolutely,

989
00:59:30,239 --> 00:59:32,400
but not tampered with to the point where I couldn't

990
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,920
tell that the driver of the limousine was pulling a

991
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,360
gun or what appeared to look like a gun around

992
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,719
his shoulder and shooting President Kennedy in the head that

993
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,599
caused his head to snap back. Did the Warren Commission

994
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:47,760
see this? It seems so.

995
00:59:48,159 --> 00:59:51,559
Speaker 1: The Warren Commission never looked at the Zuppruiter film ever,

996
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,480
so they never saw it. Now. I don't know who

997
00:59:57,639 --> 01:00:00,320
testified during the Warren Commission about the Zapruter film, if

998
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,440
anybody did, but I do know that later at the

999
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,199
investigations of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, that a

1000
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:12,000
man was specifically hired as an expert witness to view

1001
01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:14,840
the Zepruter film and tell the committee what it showed.

1002
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,239
And that man's name is Robert Grodin. He wrote High Treason,

1003
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,360
which is a best seller out now, on the Kennedy assassination,

1004
01:00:23,079 --> 01:00:26,920
and he was one of the many so called technical

1005
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,800
experts for the filming making a Oliver Stones film called JFK.

1006
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,519
He's also a fake, a fraud, a trader, a liar.

1007
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:41,320
He was hired by the House Slect Committee on Assassinations

1008
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,320
based upon his resume, which says very simply that he

1009
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:52,559
is the world's foremost number one photo analyst, which is

1010
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:55,599
a lie. He never went to school in photography. He

1011
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:59,000
never was a photographer. He never was a photo analyst.

1012
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:01,400
And I get a tell you right now that the

1013
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,440
world's number one foremost photo analysts are to all come

1014
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,159
out of the military intelligence community who are trained to

1015
01:01:08,719 --> 01:01:14,360
interpret high altitude photography and learn what really is there.

1016
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:19,239
He never served in that capacity either. He looked at

1017
01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:22,280
the Zebruder film and he told Congress, he told the

1018
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:28,280
committee in testimony. He testified both in written and inverbal form,

1019
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,559
that William Greer never took his hands off the steering wheel.

1020
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,400
And that's a blatant lie. I mean, anybody can look

1021
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,360
at the Zabruder film and see that William Greer takes

1022
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,000
his hands off the steering wheel. And even if you

1023
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,800
couldn't see it, if they cut out the frames, you

1024
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,280
can still see that William Greer. But this word, the

1025
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,400
seat of the car is turned all the way around

1026
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,119
with his right side against the rear cushion of the

1027
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:53,559
front seat, looking directly at President Kennedy in this attitude,

1028
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:57,159
and it is a physical impossibility to have both hands

1029
01:01:57,159 --> 01:02:01,119
on the wheel in that attitude. So we know that

1030
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,119
Robert grudin. Number one was not who he said he was,

1031
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,679
had no expertise to be doing the job that he

1032
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:10,239
was hired to do. Number two, even if he had

1033
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,719
no expertise, it is plainly visible in the film that

1034
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,280
William Greer could not possibly have had both hands on

1035
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,840
the wheel. So we know that Robert grub didn't make

1036
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,000
a mistake. We know that he intentionally lied to deceive

1037
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:24,559
Congress and thus the American people. And what's real strange

1038
01:02:24,559 --> 01:02:27,760
about it is he's been very active in the research community,

1039
01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:32,719
supposedly exposing the assassination of President Kennedy. But if you

1040
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,639
look what he does, he is constantly coming up with

1041
01:02:35,719 --> 01:02:39,760
new theories, supposed new evidence, most of which is fake.

1042
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,679
And in his book Now High Trees, and he makes

1043
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:47,360
a statement that the Kennedy was probably hit from the

1044
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,360
front and the rear. At the same time, his job

1045
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,280
is to keep the American people confused and propagate the

1046
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,119
lie that our government is no good, that it's our

1047
01:02:57,199 --> 01:03:00,199
government who assassinated John F. Kennedy. And I'm here to

1048
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:03,119
tell you it wasn't our government. It was the secret

1049
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:08,079
society's known as the Illuminati, the Knights, Templar, the Freemasons

1050
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,400
who assassinated John F. Kennedy, And the proof is right

1051
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,719
there for anybody who wants to see it. William Greer

1052
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,079
was a Freemason number one. He was the secret Service

1053
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:21,719
agent who you shot Kennedy number two. In Dally Plaza,

1054
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:27,719
there's an oblisk, a monument commemorating the location of the

1055
01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:31,920
first Masonic temple in the state of Texas. Dally Plaza

1056
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,599
is on a thirty third parallel, which is one of

1057
01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:39,440
the sacred numbers in Freemasonry. He was assassinated in a

1058
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,280
manner that has assured the greatest flow of blood, which

1059
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,719
is called blood atonement, which was practiced by Freemasonry in

1060
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,280
the early days and supposedly is not practiced now, but

1061
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,960
a reality is the method of choice of execution, trial

1062
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,840
and execution by Freemasons. The Builderberg Group that orders his

1063
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,719
execution is the Supreme World Counts of Freemasonry and consists

1064
01:04:02,719 --> 01:04:06,199
of thirty nine permanent members, which is three times thirteen,

1065
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,119
which is also the exact number of men who signed

1066
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:15,239
the Constitution thirty nine. You see, our forefathers were also

1067
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,920
members of this secret group, and this country was founded

1068
01:04:18,239 --> 01:04:20,840
to bring about the new world order and it's all

1069
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,239
in the Great Seal of the United States, which was

1070
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,119
in that the design of the Great Seal was made

1071
01:04:27,159 --> 01:04:33,079
law in seventeen eighty two. It's just absolutely incredible that

1072
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:35,800
the American people don't understand that groups of men don't

1073
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,320
get together and meet in secret and take blood oaths

1074
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,159
which say that they can be cut open and their

1075
01:04:41,199 --> 01:04:43,760
heart ripped out of their body and their intestines scattered

1076
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,239
over the floor. If they talk about the secrets, that's

1077
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,360
not a benevolent fraternity. That's a dangerous group of men.

1078
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,440
For awn, men don't play games like that. They're serious.

1079
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,559
It's the secret societies who are who are bringing about

1080
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:03,159
the new World order. They're the ones who killed John F. Kennedy.

1081
01:05:03,199 --> 01:05:05,880
There's nothing wrong with our Constitution or our Bill of Rights,

1082
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,760
but Americans are going to be convinced that our government sucks,

1083
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,880
and that's what all this stuff is all about.

1084
01:05:14,239 --> 01:05:18,039
Speaker 3: So at the beginning, the founders of this country actually

1085
01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:20,960
did create what was a I guess you could say,

1086
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,960
an above board, good, good government basis for a go Oh.

1087
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: Yes, they gave us every tool to ensure the success.

1088
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,360
But it was an experiment. You see, because man had

1089
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,199
always claimed that he could rule himself, but had never

1090
01:05:35,199 --> 01:05:37,920
been allowed to do that. Even in ancient Rome they

1091
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,320
call it a democracy, and the man didn't rule himself.

1092
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:43,360
He was ruled by other people who made man think

1093
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,360
he was ruling himself. But the truth was a Roman

1094
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,039
centurion could march down the street and grab anybody they

1095
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,639
wanted to and make you do whatever they wanted to,

1096
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,880
or just execute you on the spot, And that was

1097
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,760
the truth of the matter. Those weren't free people. In

1098
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,639
the history of the world, there never been a people

1099
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:02,519
who truly free or who truly ruled themselves until the

1100
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:06,559
United States of America was created as a republic by

1101
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:10,239
which we rule ourselves through electric representatives, whom we sent

1102
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,679
to the state House, either in the States or to

1103
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:19,199
Congress to do it. They also gave us every tool

1104
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,480
by which we would destroy ourselves if we weren't capable

1105
01:06:22,519 --> 01:06:27,400
of doing it. The United States and France, the Revolution

1106
01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:30,199
in this country and the Revolution in France, were created

1107
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:34,480
to bring about governments which would function as the antithesis

1108
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:38,199
to the kings and queens of the world and cause

1109
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:43,239
them to topple off their thrones. It also gave man

1110
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,400
a chance to prove once and for all, whether he

1111
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,280
could rule himself or not, and if he could find

1112
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,199
that would be the New World Order. If he couldn't,

1113
01:06:52,679 --> 01:06:55,360
they built the tools into the Constitution to allow them

1114
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,639
to take it away from us. And those tools are

1115
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:06,480
the creation of the federal democracy within the boundaries of Washington, DC,

1116
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,840
and the right to contract, through which, if we were irresponsible,

1117
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,559
we would contract to receive rights from that federal democracy

1118
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,159
and thus in return give up our freedom. And that's

1119
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:23,480
exactly what's happening. It's exactly what we've done. John F.

1120
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:27,199
Kennedy was short circuiting the New World Order. He had

1121
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:32,239
ordered the printing of constitutional money United States notes, which

1122
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,679
would have destroyed the Federal Reserve, which is not an

1123
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:39,519
agency of the United States Government. It's a private corporation

1124
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,440
owned and operated by the world bankers, controlled by the illuminati,

1125
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,639
and its purpose was to destroy the middle class in

1126
01:07:47,719 --> 01:07:53,320
this country and thus our economy, and throw us at

1127
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,360
the mercy of the New World Order.

1128
01:07:55,559 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 3: And we see this unfolding.

1129
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,119
Speaker 1: Now, you see it unfolding. Now you're seeing an I

1130
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:03,320
predicted this well in advance. You are seeing the destruction

1131
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:06,800
of the economy of the United States. And it will continue.

1132
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,960
It will not get better downhill from here on now

1133
01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:16,239
unless we nationalize the Federal Reserve, lock up the criminals

1134
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:22,159
who own it, cancel the debt, which will then bankrupt

1135
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:25,239
the illuminati, which is exactly what we ought to do.

1136
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:30,359
Print constitutional money which cannot be usurped, which cannot lead

1137
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:34,359
to our destruction, and go back to what we're supposed

1138
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:40,000
to do, and quit contracting for benefits. We're escaping from

1139
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,439
the laws of nature, and there's a terrible consequence for

1140
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:47,760
that terrible consequence. We have to function within the laws

1141
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,119
of nature. You can't contract for somebody else to keep

1142
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:54,960
you alive. You have to be responsible within your life

1143
01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:57,920
to keep yourself alive. And if you can't do it,

1144
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:04,520
then you have to die. That's the law nature, you see.

1145
01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:07,800
Kennedy also did a lot of other things. I mean,

1146
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,039
he was a believer in the Bible. These men who

1147
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:12,640
are bringing about the New World Orders don't believe in

1148
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,359
the God of the Bible. They believe in the God

1149
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,600
of Light, Lucifer, the Angel of Light, who was flung

1150
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,960
down to the earth and became the Lord of the world.

1151
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,680
That's their god. That's why everything they do is goes

1152
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,680
against what people know to be the right thing to do.

1153
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:38,399
They believe that man was held prisoner by a vindictive,

1154
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:42,439
cruel god named Jehovah in the Garden of Eden, and

1155
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,399
that Lucifer, through his agent Satan, set man free from

1156
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,399
the bonds of ignorance to which he was chained to

1157
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,159
the Garden of Eden, and thus brought the gift of

1158
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:58,680
intellect wisdom to man. And thus is the true benevolent God,

1159
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:03,399
with his intellect and his wisdom and his knowledge, will

1160
01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:07,439
create technology which will elevate man to the position of God.

1161
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,720
And all this is allegorical. Don't take the story literally,

1162
01:10:13,159 --> 01:10:17,239
you see, because it's all allegorical. They believe that intellect,

1163
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:26,680
reason is the light, is the true God, is what

1164
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,359
makes man God. And I'm not going to debate the

1165
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,239
right or wrongness of that, because who the hell knows.

1166
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,239
But I can tell you that they pervert whatever it

1167
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:44,600
is that might be divine about their philosophy by becoming

1168
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:45,960
what they profess.

1169
01:10:46,399 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 3: To destroy destroy.

1170
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: And so, in their zeal to bring about the new

1171
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,720
world order, they destroyed the political will of the nation

1172
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,199
when they assassinated John F. Kennedy, which has furthered their

1173
01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:04,000
goals because it made a lot of people feel so

1174
01:11:04,079 --> 01:11:09,039
helpless that God, if they can kill the president, who

1175
01:11:09,079 --> 01:11:11,920
am I? You know, what can I do? I'm just

1176
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:15,920
one lonely helpless person. So they quit voting, they abdicated

1177
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:21,399
their power, and of course, through agents like Robert Grodin

1178
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:27,960
and many others, Oliver Stone, they're being convinced that our

1179
01:11:28,079 --> 01:11:31,560
government sucks, that our government is the problem, that the

1180
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,399
Constitution doesn't work, but the Bill of Rights aren't real.

1181
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 3: We're playing right into their hands.

1182
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,199
Speaker 1: In other words, we're playing right into their hands because

1183
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:41,640
there's nothing wrong with the constitution. Are the Bill of rights?

1184
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:47,319
Are our government? You see, it's been infiltrated and from within.

1185
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,720
They are eating at the heart of this nation like

1186
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a cancer, this secret society. They are destroying it, they

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are subverting it. Our constitution has not been allowed to

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01:11:57,359 --> 01:12:01,520
work since nineteen forty five and maybe even earlier, and

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they have been working behind the scenes to bring about

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a one world to atalitarian socialist government with the Communist

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01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,399
Manifesto as its platform through the United Nations, which was

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:17,680
created by this nation from an older organization called the

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:23,439
League of Nations, which was the original foundation, and at

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01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,199
the highest levels of our government, the Constitution's already been scrapped,

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01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,960
and they are working under the aegeus of the UN

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01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,560
Participation Act in the United Nations Charter, which says what

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which says that there are no rights. There are only

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what you what you call privileges, and privileges can be

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granted or taken away at will by the state.

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Speaker 3: Quite frightening scenario.

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01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: It's very frightening scenario. And people better wake up to

1202
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:55,039
the fact that unless they wake up and do something

1203
01:12:55,079 --> 01:12:57,760
about it now, there's only going to be one alternative,

1204
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,760
and that's either take up arm, restore the Constitution, and

1205
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,239
the blood will run in the streets of America are

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01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:08,640
reached down and put the shackles around your own feet

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01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:16,479
and march off into slavery peacefully. It's not gonna be

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01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,399
easy the coming years. Now.

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Speaker 3: Historically this may or may not relate, but UH at

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01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,319
least a moderate will. UH. Contemporary world history does not

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01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:33,960
include the the UH. The stories of Atlantis and Limuria

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,960
then go pre date. How does that history and why

1213
01:13:38,119 --> 01:13:40,359
was that suppressed? For why is it still being suppressed?

1214
01:13:40,399 --> 01:13:43,039
How might that affect what we are understanding is going

1215
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:44,319
on today or is it related?

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01:13:45,319 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure. If if a place called Atlantis

1217
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,399
or Lemuria ever existed or didn't exist. I don't really know,

1218
01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:56,640
but I do know that the story that is told

1219
01:13:57,079 --> 01:14:00,880
about the civilizations that lived there something that we should

1220
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,600
listen to, because this whole scene may have played itself

1221
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,760
out before on this earth. And if you understand the

1222
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,640
theory which I believe has been accepted as fact now

1223
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:18,359
continental Drift, there may have been an Atlantis and a

1224
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:25,119
Lubria which had tremendously developed technologies and societies, and the

1225
01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:27,760
same scenario that we're playing out now in this great

1226
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,159
stage called the world may have played itself out over

1227
01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:38,079
and over again in the past for millennium. In my

1228
01:14:38,279 --> 01:14:42,000
investigation of the mystery schools, the secret societies that are

1229
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,960
bringing all this about, that really control everything behind the scenes,

1230
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,600
I found that this is all about religion, and it's

1231
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,840
all about a recurring theme that is penetrated is at

1232
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,520
the heart of every reig religion in the world, and

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:01,479
that is a creator or a creatress who has a

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son that is sacrificed and then is resurrected and saves

1235
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,760
the world or saves humanity. It seems to be an

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archetype it that is that is within us and so

1237
01:15:16,279 --> 01:15:18,399
that you don't go flipping out watching this tape. I'm

1238
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a Christian. I believe in the the the teachings of

1239
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Jesus Christ, even though it may turn out that he

1240
01:15:23,399 --> 01:15:28,039
may have never lived, that the scene, it doesn't matter

1241
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,359
when you read his words, and you can go back

1242
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through history and find these are the same words that

1243
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were spoken by every savior that there ever was. Are

1244
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:40,680
the most beautiful, most profound, most most affecting words that

1245
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,520
have ever been spoken on the face of this earth.

1246
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And when I get down and almost get to a

1247
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,000
point of hopelessness, I just go read the Sermon of

1248
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,640
the Mount and I come back up again, Cause in

1249
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,159
the end, it's not gonna matter whether Jesus ever lived

1250
01:15:54,319 --> 01:15:59,239
or didn't live. The story is real, and it's within

1251
01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:05,760
all of us, and it brings us to something within

1252
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:12,359
ourselves that it's good. But these men don't look at that.

1253
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,119
They believe that the end justifies the means, that these

1254
01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:21,960
stories are just stories, and that the real meaning behind

1255
01:16:22,039 --> 01:16:25,800
it all is that man can transcend as animal state

1256
01:16:27,079 --> 01:16:32,279
through the realization of intellect and the overcoming of all

1257
01:16:32,359 --> 01:16:39,279
of his emotions and feelings and morals, guilt, All of

1258
01:16:39,319 --> 01:16:42,920
these things and I just can't go along with that,

1259
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,359
because I believe it's our emotions that tell us when

1260
01:16:45,399 --> 01:16:50,279
we're doing wrong. We feel it within ourself, and a

1261
01:16:50,359 --> 01:16:53,840
person without that capacity to feel when they're doing wrong

1262
01:16:54,399 --> 01:17:01,000
becomes a sociopath, which is someone without a conscience who

1263
01:17:01,039 --> 01:17:04,039
really believes that the end justifies the means, and therefore

1264
01:17:04,039 --> 01:17:07,720
has no pangs of conscience nor no reluctance to murder

1265
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:14,640
someone who gets in their way. And it's extremely dangerous.

1266
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 3: None of these people recognize the continuity of life. In

1267
01:17:20,039 --> 01:17:23,680
other words, you have told me earlier that they're after

1268
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,119
physical immortality.

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Speaker 1: They believe that through their technology, man will become God.

1270
01:17:29,319 --> 01:17:33,039
With the power of reason to technology, man will himself

1271
01:17:33,079 --> 01:17:36,880
become God. They will engineer just like Hitler wanted to do,

1272
01:17:37,079 --> 01:17:41,479
the super race who will live forever, And the concept

1273
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,239
is the same, and the men behind it are the

1274
01:17:43,319 --> 01:17:47,600
same as Hitler was. When they killed John F. Kennedy.

1275
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It shows you what kind of men they are, because

1276
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they would not stop to kill anyone who gets in

1277
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,520
their way and have never stopped at it. Their goal,

1278
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,039
literally to bring about the New World Order will be

1279
01:17:59,119 --> 01:18:02,000
to kill approximate two billion people before the year two

1280
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:05,399
thousand aids is one method of doing this. There'll be

1281
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,239
many more. As they solidify their control, everyone will be

1282
01:18:09,239 --> 01:18:11,640
given a choice. They'll be presented with a new World religion.

1283
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They'll be told to renounce Christ, renounce Buddha, renounce Muhammad,

1284
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,000
join the New World Order, join the New World religion.

1285
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If they refuse, they'll be executed, very simple, and it

1286
01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:27,600
won't bother them a bit. In fact, according to their belief,

1287
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,359
they believe they'll be helping these people, and in reality

1288
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they will because those people will transcend this physical state

1289
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:39,000
while they're prisoned here, living forever. I feel sorry for them,

1290
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:42,760
because those of us who will eventually die will transcend

1291
01:18:43,399 --> 01:18:46,479
the pain and the suffering that goes along with this world.

1292
01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:52,960
And they're so egotistical that they preserve whatever they do

1293
01:18:53,039 --> 01:18:55,680
so that the diligent can find out what kind of

1294
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,439
men these men really are. For instance, the A Kennedy assassination.

1295
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I've been showing the film for five years that shows

1296
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exactly who did it. I'll show you exactly where Oswald

1297
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,199
is in the film. He wasn't even on the sixth floor.

1298
01:19:07,239 --> 01:19:09,399
He was standing in the doorway of the book depository

1299
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building watching the motorcave go by, and it's it's just

1300
01:19:15,159 --> 01:19:16,800
it's it's incredible.

1301
01:19:17,359 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 3: At the same time you said they would have everybody

1302
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,000
renounce religion, have they as well been using it as

1303
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,039
a tool for their means.

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01:19:24,079 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: If you're Christian, you'll be required to renounce Christ and

1305
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,039
join the New World religion. I remember I told you before,

1306
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,319
no matter what your religion is or what you think,

1307
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they are following the scenario in the Book of Revelations

1308
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to a te right down to the last little bit.

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If you want to know what's going to happen in

1310
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,680
the future, if we don't wake up and through the

1311
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,680
power of those see not one drop of blood ever

1312
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,800
has to be spilled, and no one has to ever

1313
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,800
put any chains on their legs or their arths ever,

1314
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,760
if people just wake up and exercise what was given

1315
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,079
to us in our constitution, the power of the vote.

1316
01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,079
While we still have that power, So.

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Speaker 3: You say, there is still a possibility for like one

1318
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,880
individual watching this take to actually make a difference.

1319
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Speaker 1: You better believe it.

1320
01:20:04,119 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 3: How would that be?

1321
01:20:05,039 --> 01:20:08,239
Speaker 1: So? Well? Number one, learn what the truth really is,

1322
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,760
get away from the fantasy that you've been living. Educate

1323
01:20:12,119 --> 01:20:17,560
other people, those you know, your family, Once that begins

1324
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,760
to happen, it spreads. And then if the people decide

1325
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,760
that they don't want what they have in store for

1326
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:28,960
us plan, just through the power of the vote, they

1327
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,760
can make this country in the world whatever they want

1328
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,000
it to be, whatever they want it to be, And

1329
01:20:35,039 --> 01:20:39,000
there are no limits on that except to understand that

1330
01:20:39,079 --> 01:20:41,520
you can never make everything all right and you can

1331
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,319
never make everything all bad. Both must exist, and we

1332
01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:52,399
must maintain a balance, and we must become responsible. If

1333
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,600
each individual on this earth learn to walk in a

1334
01:20:54,800 --> 01:21:00,600
bine state of grace, responsible for themselves, their family, their city,

1335
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,880
their state, to country, and for the world.

1336
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Speaker 3: Into the laws of nature and to the laws of.

1337
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:11,359
Speaker 1: Nature, and actively participate in solving the problems of yourself,

1338
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:16,159
your family, your city, your state, your country, and the world.

1339
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,399
There could never be a group of men meeting behind

1340
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:24,560
closed doors in secret that could ever control anybody. But

1341
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,319
by abdicating responsibility, by not walking in that divine state

1342
01:21:28,319 --> 01:21:35,239
of grace, makes possible anyone meeting behind closed doors to

1343
01:21:35,279 --> 01:21:39,600
bring about the world that they want. And the world

1344
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,199
that they want may not be the world that you want,

1345
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:47,560
or that I want, or that these people watching might want.

1346
01:21:51,359 --> 01:21:56,840
If you don't participate. You can't complain. If you don't

1347
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:02,199
help cook the meal, you got no right to bitch

1348
01:22:02,199 --> 01:22:04,760
about it. You got to sit down and eat what's

1349
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,680
put on your plate. If you don't like that, then

1350
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,079
you should have been in the kitchen helping to prepare

1351
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:12,119
the meal, helping to plant it, helping to prepare it,

1352
01:22:12,199 --> 01:22:14,520
helping to serve it. If you want to sit on

1353
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,119
your butt in the living room while somebody else prepares

1354
01:22:17,159 --> 01:22:19,039
the meal for you and decides what it's going to be,

1355
01:22:19,159 --> 01:22:21,720
this puts it on the table. It's too late to

1356
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:24,520
say that's not what you wanted to eat. It's too

1357
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,520
late to say it's not cooked the way you wanted

1358
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:27,000
it to cook.

1359
01:22:27,119 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 3: Well, that's very simple understand.

1360
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,079
Speaker 1: And that's right. You got to eat it because you

1361
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:37,800
have to eat to live. And I think that anybody

1362
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,920
can understand the meaning behind that little story.

1363
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,319
Speaker 3: Okay, let's take a step back to the Kennedy thing. Now,

1364
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:47,920
this is all about the kid, Well, yeah it is.

1365
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,159
It is just specifically about Once again, I want to

1366
01:22:50,279 --> 01:22:53,239
bring up the film as well. Another thing that came

1367
01:22:53,279 --> 01:22:55,000
to my mind when I viewed it is that the

1368
01:22:55,039 --> 01:22:58,000
two secret servicemen, the driver and the person sitting next

1369
01:22:58,039 --> 01:23:02,520
to them in the front, regardless of what they claim happened,

1370
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,199
obviously did not operate in the way that you were

1371
01:23:06,199 --> 01:23:08,960
trained as a secret serviceman to protect the president. Shouldn't

1372
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,760
they have just driven that car right out of there

1373
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,359
and the other guy should have done something to protect

1374
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,720
or look for who's shooting.

1375
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Speaker 1: You know.

1376
01:23:16,039 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 3: It just didn't seem to make any sense. How would

1377
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,000
the Warren Commission not They didn't see the film, So

1378
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:20,880
I guess.

1379
01:23:21,279 --> 01:23:23,359
Speaker 1: If they didn't see the film by design, because if

1380
01:23:23,359 --> 01:23:25,359
they saw the film, they'd have to be responsible for

1381
01:23:25,399 --> 01:23:28,159
the decision that they made that Lee Harvey Oswald was

1382
01:23:28,199 --> 01:23:31,119
alone assassin. Okay, So I think they didn't see the

1383
01:23:31,119 --> 01:23:33,319
film on purpose because they didn't want to have to

1384
01:23:33,319 --> 01:23:37,880
be responsible for saying the driver did it. You know,

1385
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,319
they didn't want to make that decision. And in a

1386
01:23:41,399 --> 01:23:44,239
letter that Lyndon Johnson wrote to the Warren Commission, he

1387
01:23:44,319 --> 01:23:51,680
specifically said, in the letter, you must you must quickly

1388
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:59,279
identify Lee Harvey Oswald as acting alone with no conspiracy,

1389
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,600
so that and can get back to business.

1390
01:24:03,079 --> 01:24:06,319
Speaker 3: Was Lyndon Johnson acting on behalf of the secret Society

1391
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,079
or he had.

1392
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: To know all about it and approve of it because

1393
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,039
he was going to be the new president, and the

1394
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new president would be in charge of the investigation.

1395
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 3: How high of a government official do you have to

1396
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,600
be before your briefed of this? You know that the

1397
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,439
total of all the things that are going on the

1398
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:26,479
reality behind.

1399
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 1: Them, well, you have to understand that nobody exists on

1400
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,800
a high level in government who's opposed to the New

1401
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:40,800
World Order. Nobody. Our government has literally been infiltrated, and

1402
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,039
there's a cancer within our government destroying and eating it,

1403
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,359
nibbling away at it, hacking off its limbs.

1404
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,039
Speaker 3: And you said this started in nineteen forty five.

1405
01:24:50,319 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 1: Nineteen forty five was when the overt destruction began to occur,

1406
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,960
when Truman signed the UN Participation Act in the United

1407
01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:03,319
Nations Treaty. Actually began long before that, when these secret

1408
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:07,079
societies began to infiltrate the government and appoint their members

1409
01:25:07,239 --> 01:25:12,199
to important posts. Infiltration is easy. If one gets in,

1410
01:25:13,279 --> 01:25:16,479
he can then appoint and hire others to replace people

1411
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,439
who are not members below him.

1412
01:25:19,039 --> 01:25:21,520
Speaker 3: So now we've had over fifty almost fifty years of

1413
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:22,239
this going on.

1414
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: At least, I believe that it started back probably nineteen

1415
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:30,039
thirteen nineteen seventeen, when the Federal Reserve Act was passed,

1416
01:25:30,039 --> 01:25:33,720
when the Council of Foreign Relations became a reality in

1417
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:40,159
this country, and you can, by diligent research and study,

1418
01:25:40,199 --> 01:25:43,239
you can see when it happened, where it happened, who

1419
01:25:43,239 --> 01:25:46,560
did it, and how it was done. It's imperi when

1420
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,800
they say there's no conspiracy. I mean, we talk about

1421
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,239
a conspiracy. It started out as a conspiracy. But when

1422
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:54,600
they say today there's no conspiracy, that's not a lie.

1423
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,119
It's the truth. They're doing it right out in the open,

1424
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:01,000
right under our noses, and we're too stupid to know

1425
01:26:01,079 --> 01:26:05,960
it to see it. So it's not a conspiracy now

1426
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,800
today at all. That's right out in the open. They

1427
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,840
even publish their plans. I mean here Carter appointed the

1428
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:17,079
big new Brazinski as the National Security Advisor, who just

1429
01:26:17,159 --> 01:26:22,119
wrote a book before he was appointed, declaring himself a Marxist.

1430
01:26:24,079 --> 01:26:26,560
I mean, you read that book. This man believes in Marxism.

1431
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,399
This man is a socialist. Not only a socialist, he's

1432
01:26:29,399 --> 01:26:34,319
an international socialist. He's a globalist. His goal stated in

1433
01:26:34,359 --> 01:26:37,359
his book, to destroy the sovereignty of nations and bring

1434
01:26:37,359 --> 01:26:39,239
about a one world. Marxist government.

1435
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 3: Now, the Carter administration was one extreme, and then we

1436
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,800
came into the Reagan administration. Yet they changed, not they changed.

1437
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,640
What you're saying is that no matter what the political leanings,

1438
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,399
they seemed to be playing the same game.

1439
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: As long as you're playing their game, it doesn't matter

1440
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,239
who you vote for, who you put in office. They

1441
01:26:56,399 --> 01:26:59,840
all belong to the other side. They're the pockets of

1442
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:06,079
the illuminati. When you quit electing professional politicians, when you

1443
01:27:06,239 --> 01:27:10,239
quit electing the guy who looks nice on television because

1444
01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:12,199
he speaks good and he looks like the guy you

1445
01:27:12,239 --> 01:27:17,119
wanted to marry or something like that, you're playing right

1446
01:27:17,119 --> 01:27:21,319
into their hands. You know, they've made it so impossible

1447
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,079
for another Abraham Lincoln to get elected to the office

1448
01:27:24,079 --> 01:27:28,560
of president. That's a wonder that we even have a

1449
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:33,479
chance at all. We need to send people to Congress

1450
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:37,079
and to government who are going to clean house. Kick

1451
01:27:37,119 --> 01:27:40,119
all the members of secret societies out of the bureaucracy,

1452
01:27:40,279 --> 01:27:44,479
lock them up, try them for treason because they are traders.

1453
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 3: So one thing that may help is term limitations.

1454
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 1: We must have term limitations, and it must be only

1455
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,119
one term. And forget all this nonsense that anybody goes

1456
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:54,720
to Washington, don't know what's happening. They don't know what's happening,

1457
01:27:55,119 --> 01:27:57,880
simply because they haven't taken the time as citizens to

1458
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:01,199
understand how our government works. They ever go to Washington.

1459
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,159
You see, it should be a process that starts in infancy,

1460
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:07,039
it works its way up, and everybody should be taking

1461
01:28:07,079 --> 01:28:07,840
part in the government.

1462
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 3: Now, if someone came in to office with this kind

1463
01:28:11,039 --> 01:28:13,520
of knowledge and with this kind of intent to really

1464
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,039
push these people out, would they not be eliminated immediately?

1465
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,359
Speaker 1: Not if they have the people behind them. Because what

1466
01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:23,159
the people would do and one fell swoop in one election,

1467
01:28:25,239 --> 01:28:30,079
would elect people who never served in government before, kick

1468
01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:34,359
the incumbents out, send citizens to Washington. And here's the

1469
01:28:34,359 --> 01:28:36,720
way it has to be done. You know right now,

1470
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,199
you don't even pay your congressman. You know who pays

1471
01:28:40,199 --> 01:28:44,800
your congressman, the federal democracy of the District of Columbia.

1472
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,640
The federal government pays your congressman, who's supposed to be

1473
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,680
representing your state and you the federal government is a

1474
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,319
foreign country to your state. Why should he represent you?

1475
01:29:00,199 --> 01:29:02,000
But he goes, he moves to Washington, d C. He

1476
01:29:02,039 --> 01:29:05,640
maintains a residence here, but he doesn't live here, and

1477
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,960
as long as you're re electing, he continues to live

1478
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:10,520
in Washington, d C. Forever if you keep re electing him.

1479
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,640
So they lose all touch with what's back here. They're

1480
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:17,279
paid by a foreign government, the federal government. They're not

1481
01:29:17,399 --> 01:29:21,359
paid by the sovereign state of Georgia or by you.

1482
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,840
They have to be paid by you, and they have

1483
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,880
to live here. They can't move to Washington, d C.

1484
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:31,239
They go to Washington, D C. For one term, okay,

1485
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,239
one term only. When that term's up, they have to

1486
01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:37,279
come back. And you don't pay them exorbitant funds. You

1487
01:29:37,359 --> 01:29:40,119
pay them just enough to live uncomfortably while they're there.

1488
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:45,319
No fancy, giant cocktail parties, none of this crap. And

1489
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,720
you take care of their family. See, they don't take

1490
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,279
their family either. That's the other clue. They leave their

1491
01:29:50,319 --> 01:29:54,680
family here where they live. You, the people of Georgia,

1492
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,840
take care of their family and their business or their

1493
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,279
farm or whatever it is they have while they're gone.

1494
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:01,960
You think they have a vested interest in representing you,

1495
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:07,159
They sure would under those conditions. But under the conditions

1496
01:30:07,159 --> 01:30:10,319
they had they go under. Now they have no interest

1497
01:30:10,359 --> 01:30:13,359
whatsoever in taking care of you.

1498
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,079
Speaker 3: Now, let's look at the current they're taking care of themselves.

1499
01:30:16,319 --> 01:30:19,760
The current crop of presidential candidates. Is there anybody even

1500
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,520
running that represents something that we're talking about here?

1501
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: You know, all of them are new world peoples? Sung

1502
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:29,159
Us in his book, even everything that he's written touts

1503
01:30:29,159 --> 01:30:31,800
the new world order, all of it write for Songuss literature.

1504
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,079
They're gonna see new world order, new world order, new

1505
01:30:34,079 --> 01:30:37,159
world or new world order. Clinton, the governor of Georgia,

1506
01:30:37,399 --> 01:30:40,520
was selected and by the builder Berg excuse me, the

1507
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,279
government governor of Arkansas, was selected in the nineteen ninety

1508
01:30:44,279 --> 01:30:47,359
one by the Builderberg group in bond and Bondern, Germany,

1509
01:30:48,399 --> 01:30:50,680
to be the new president of the United States. Remember

1510
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:52,880
what happened to Gary Hart? What did he do? He

1511
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,880
went out on a boat with a woman who wasn'y's

1512
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,359
wife and he was destroyed. Look at Clinton, what's happened

1513
01:30:59,399 --> 01:31:02,319
to him? Nothing? The press is on his side, the

1514
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:07,119
helping the guy. You know why, because he was chosen

1515
01:31:07,159 --> 01:31:08,840
by the people who owned the press to be the

1516
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:12,159
next president of the United States. Now, I don't know

1517
01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:13,520
if he will be or not. That's up to the

1518
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,760
American people. But if they get their way, he will

1519
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:21,920
be Bush. Bush is one of the most heinous criminals

1520
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,399
that's ever walked on the face of the earth. Bush

1521
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:27,199
is the man who's been a CIA agent since his

1522
01:31:27,279 --> 01:31:30,079
college days. He's a member of the Skull and Bones,

1523
01:31:30,079 --> 01:31:33,079
the Russell Trust. He was initiated in a in a

1524
01:31:33,119 --> 01:31:37,960
casket with a ribbon tied around his genitalia, which symbolizes

1525
01:31:38,319 --> 01:31:42,119
that he's a priest in the Temple of isis a pagan.

1526
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:46,439
This guy, this man is a member of the mystery schools. Well.

1527
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 3: He has the outward appearance of a good Christian, church

1528
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:50,279
going Christian.

1529
01:31:50,359 --> 01:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Now they do whatever they have to to be approved

1530
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,600
by the people, but in secret they're not at all.

1531
01:31:56,119 --> 01:32:01,840
This is a man who practices pagan religious ritual magic.

1532
01:32:03,319 --> 01:32:06,079
Doesn't matter what you think of all these things. I'm

1533
01:32:06,119 --> 01:32:08,039
just telling you this is what he does in secret.

1534
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,800
He is the man who, when he was chief executive officer,

1535
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,920
when he was president of the Offshore Division of Zapata Oil,

1536
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,319
organized and began the first large scale drug smuggling operations

1537
01:32:22,359 --> 01:32:25,319
into this country. George Bush is the one responsible for

1538
01:32:25,359 --> 01:32:28,079
the drugs on the streets and the war against drugs

1539
01:32:28,119 --> 01:32:29,840
is not a war against drugs it's a war against

1540
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:31,680
the Bill of Rights. And we've already lost the Fourth

1541
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,920
Amendment in this war, that's true, and we're gonna lose

1542
01:32:36,079 --> 01:32:41,640
everything else. You watch on It amazes me. People watch

1543
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:42,840
on Saturday Night.

1544
01:32:43,079 --> 01:32:45,600
Speaker 3: Cops, Top Cops, Tough Cops.

1545
01:32:45,319 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Nine one one, all of these stories that are glorifying

1546
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,159
the police state, and they're falling right into the manipulation

1547
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:57,359
as they watch police with no search warrant, with no

1548
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:01,520
court order, break down people's door, tear out their walls,

1549
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:06,159
rip open their mattresses, all in the name of the

1550
01:33:06,199 --> 01:33:07,359
war on drugs.

1551
01:33:07,399 --> 01:33:08,199
Speaker 3: Pretty sneaky.

1552
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: It's pretty sneaky, all right. You see him stop people

1553
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,520
in the streets and the guy's got four hundred dollars

1554
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,680
in his pocket. They don't print press any charges, They

1555
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,840
didn't even have any reasonable suspicion to stop the person

1556
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,960
in search them. And what do they do. They take

1557
01:33:22,039 --> 01:33:27,039
their money and they don't give it back. And America's

1558
01:33:27,039 --> 01:33:31,600
watching this, and the stupid idiots, Yes, you stupid idiots.

1559
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,479
You sit there and watch it, not realizing that when

1560
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,079
you take away that man's freedom, you've also taken away

1561
01:33:38,119 --> 01:33:40,399
your own, you see, because they can do the same

1562
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,119
thing to you. Just because you talk away that they

1563
01:33:44,119 --> 01:33:46,680
don't like you talking, or because you wear red shoes

1564
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,960
and they don't like red shoes, they can do the

1565
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,680
same thing to you. And under the new law, without

1566
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,359
a court order, without a search warrant, they can break

1567
01:33:55,399 --> 01:33:58,359
down your door, they can rip open your mattresses, your couches,

1568
01:33:58,399 --> 01:34:04,439
your walls, they can trash your house all the name

1569
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,199
of the war on drugs. And let's say they don't

1570
01:34:08,279 --> 01:34:10,000
like the color of your shoes. All they have to

1571
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,880
do is drop the little pouch of cocaine in your

1572
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:17,680
living room behind your couch and find it and say, aha,

1573
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:23,199
you're a drug dealer. What happens? Then now they can

1574
01:34:23,239 --> 01:34:26,319
confiscate your house, all your possessions, all your property, all

1575
01:34:26,319 --> 01:34:29,800
your bank accounts, all your cars, boats, vacation cottages, whatever

1576
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,520
you have, and they can auction it off within twenty

1577
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:37,000
four hours without ever even pressing charges against you, without

1578
01:34:37,039 --> 01:34:42,319
a cord order, without due process, without just con compensation.

1579
01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:46,880
And there's not a damn thing that you can do

1580
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:48,840
about it, not a damn.

1581
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,560
Speaker 3: Thing at least right now, at least right now.

1582
01:34:52,199 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: And the reason you can't do a damn thing about

1583
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:55,680
it is because you're the one who brought it about

1584
01:34:55,800 --> 01:35:00,399
through your stupidity. You're mentally crippled. You're operating from a

1585
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:09,840
position of ignorance, apathy, abdication, irresponsibility, and we're losing our country,

1586
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,039
our freedoms, everything.

1587
01:35:11,279 --> 01:35:14,319
Speaker 3: Now, these these are strong accusations of the American public.

1588
01:35:14,359 --> 01:35:17,479
What do you hope to accomplish by angering the very

1589
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:19,079
audience that you want to watch and listen to.

1590
01:35:19,119 --> 01:35:24,159
Speaker 1: You Go prove me wrong, Go make me the idiot.

1591
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,039
In so doing, you're gonna find out what the truth is,

1592
01:35:27,079 --> 01:35:31,640
and maybe you'll wake her at up. And if you do,

1593
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,239
maybe we can save our country. Because I don't really

1594
01:35:34,279 --> 01:35:35,760
care at this point whether you get mad at me

1595
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:40,760
or not. My country's disappearing, my freedom's are disappearing. My

1596
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,119
daughter's gonna live as a slave in New World Order

1597
01:35:43,119 --> 01:35:45,760
if you people don't wake up and help me. So

1598
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,560
if I had a two by four, literally, I would

1599
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,000
smack you upside the head with it. I don't care

1600
01:35:53,039 --> 01:35:56,079
if you get mad at me. It's beyond that state.

1601
01:35:56,399 --> 01:35:58,239
You know, I'm willing to put my life on the line.

1602
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:02,560
Why would I care if you get mad? You know,

1603
01:36:04,199 --> 01:36:07,039
people say, well, don't you feel threatened, don't you feel

1604
01:36:07,079 --> 01:36:10,520
like your life is in danger? Are you kidding? You're

1605
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,079
the people who sent your sons and daughters to fight

1606
01:36:13,119 --> 01:36:19,680
an illegal, immoral, unjustified war in the Middle East, and

1607
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,479
that didn't bother you a bit that they might have

1608
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,800
got killed over there, and you're worried that I might

1609
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:28,159
get hurt or killed right here, really defending my country,

1610
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,600
really fighting in the defense of the constitution.

1611
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,079
Speaker 3: Right you brought up the person Gulf War. That's something

1612
01:36:34,119 --> 01:36:36,439
that's still on a lot of people's minds based on

1613
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,159
what you're saying, sud the reason for.

1614
01:36:38,079 --> 01:36:40,399
Speaker 1: That war, they should feel really guilty, They should feel

1615
01:36:40,399 --> 01:36:41,199
really bad about that.

1616
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 3: I mean, what about a Saddam Hussein that everyone seems

1617
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,319
to agree is, you know, the evil man here that

1618
01:36:47,359 --> 01:36:49,760
we had the right to go in and punish, destroy

1619
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:50,319
or whatever.

1620
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny that the man who purported to want

1621
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,000
to destroy Sodom Hussein was the man who really built

1622
01:36:55,039 --> 01:36:57,760
Sodom Hussein when he was in the Central Intelligence Agency.

1623
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:03,439
We have been building up Saddam Hussein's arsenal. His technology

1624
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,840
comes from us in the Soviet Union. We built him

1625
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:12,520
up to create that war. We did it for a purpose,

1626
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,800
and the purpose was, look at this if George Bush

1627
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,439
knew what he was doing, how come he didn't know

1628
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:22,720
what he was doing. Here's what he said, We've got

1629
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,479
to send troops to the Middle East because we can't

1630
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,560
afford to pay twenty six dollars a barrel for oil.

1631
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,800
That's on tape. Next he comes out and he says, no,

1632
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:34,279
it's not about the price of oil. It's because Saddam

1633
01:37:34,319 --> 01:37:36,720
Hussein's not gonna stop at Kuwait. He's gonna go into

1634
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:40,239
Saudi Arabia. And those are our friends, our buddies, so

1635
01:37:40,279 --> 01:37:44,039
we gotta go defend Saudi Arabia. And then James Baker

1636
01:37:44,039 --> 01:37:46,880
says in a press conference, Nope, it's not about Saudi Arabia.

1637
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,479
It's not about forty six dollars a barrel for oil.

1638
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:52,840
It's about jobs, folks. We're gonna get you a job,

1639
01:37:53,239 --> 01:37:55,039
and to do it, we're willing to kill your sons

1640
01:37:55,039 --> 01:37:57,079
and daughters. Yes, sir, We'll send him off to get

1641
01:37:57,199 --> 01:38:00,399
killed so that you can have a job, prosperity. That's

1642
01:38:00,399 --> 01:38:01,199
what it's all about.

1643
01:38:02,119 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 3: Well, what was the actual scenario if we hadn't gone in.

1644
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 1: Well, see, that's not the end of it. Yeah. Then

1645
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,159
George Bush comes out and says, whoa, the White House

1646
01:38:09,239 --> 01:38:11,399
is flooded for telegrams. They don't want their sons and

1647
01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,279
daughters to get killed for a job. It's not about jobs,

1648
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,760
it's about naked aggression. Yes, sir, there's a little Hitler

1649
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:22,000
over there called Saddam who's saying we're going to go

1650
01:38:22,039 --> 01:38:26,760
destroy him because the world doesn't need another Hitler. Never

1651
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,239
Mind Pinochet and Chili. It was another Hitler. Never mind

1652
01:38:30,279 --> 01:38:32,039
all the other Hitler's in the world. Was that, never

1653
01:38:32,119 --> 01:38:33,800
mind Tianaman Square.

1654
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 3: Well then, you know, then people would say, well, the

1655
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,600
American government's not interested in that because money is not

1656
01:38:40,119 --> 01:38:42,920
in you know, it's the oil here. We're talking about money,

1657
01:38:43,239 --> 01:38:44,720
So you're saying it's not even that.

1658
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,319
Speaker 1: No, they've been planning this war for years. In fact,

1659
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,760
Arko Press wrote a book about it. The name of

1660
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,479
the book is Rapid Deployment Forces. It was published in

1661
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,560
nineteen eighty five. It names Kuwait as the country. It

1662
01:38:56,640 --> 01:39:00,039
talks about Operation Bright Star, where they've been practicing the

1663
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:04,600
war every year since the early eighties, sending troops. Are

1664
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,600
they practicing the war liberating Kuwait? It's even named in

1665
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,840
the book. The whole thing was spelled out years ago.

1666
01:39:12,079 --> 01:39:15,000
What it was all about was to establish the new

1667
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:17,640
world order. You see, because for the first time in

1668
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:22,439
the history of the world, it's established the legal international president.

1669
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:26,720
But the United Nations could pass a resolution and send

1670
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,800
its police force to enforce that resolution, and that the

1671
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,520
member nations would have to pay for that action. And

1672
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,600
George Bush said it very clearly, but nobody was listening

1673
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:42,119
when he said, no longer will any nation stand against

1674
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:46,359
a world united. And with that action he established the

1675
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:52,960
legal foundation in international law that the United Nations is

1676
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:59,279
now legally and overtly the one world government, and that

1677
01:39:59,319 --> 01:40:01,800
the United States, its military forces, and the other forces

1678
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:05,880
that were sent by other countries were established as the

1679
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:09,000
one world police force under the United Nations. Have you

1680
01:40:09,039 --> 01:40:12,239
seen the new Air Force uniforms, Yet nowhere on them

1681
01:40:12,279 --> 01:40:15,920
does it say United States are US. They are United

1682
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:21,239
Nations uniforms. Go look at them.

1683
01:40:21,319 --> 01:40:24,199
Speaker 3: What role in the Middle East again, does Israel play

1684
01:40:24,199 --> 01:40:24,479
in this?

1685
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 1: Israel was created as the instrument to bring about the

1686
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:31,960
battle of Armageddon and the fulfillment of prophecy, a war

1687
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,000
that will be so terrible where nuclear weapons will be used,

1688
01:40:35,319 --> 01:40:37,479
so that the American citizens and the other people in

1689
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,199
the world will get down on their knees and beg

1690
01:40:39,319 --> 01:40:41,279
for no more war. And what is the answer to that?

1691
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,479
They're going to be told the only way we can

1692
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:47,079
guarantee no more war is if we destroy the sovereignty

1693
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,399
of nations and we come together as one humanity in

1694
01:40:50,399 --> 01:40:53,920
a one world government. Right now, I'm telling you, unless

1695
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:58,359
the American people wake up and stop it, starting in

1696
01:40:58,399 --> 01:41:01,560
about nineteen ninety six, the Battle of Armageddon will become

1697
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:05,960
a reality. Not because two nations got mad at each

1698
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,800
other and decided to fight. And that's why Saddam Hussein

1699
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,079
was not destroyed. He will be the instrument that will

1700
01:41:11,079 --> 01:41:12,039
bring that to pass.

1701
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,159
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they did not go in and do that.

1702
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein will be portrayed as the Antichrist. Babylon is

1703
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:25,319
in Iraq. Read the Book of Revelations, whether you believe

1704
01:41:25,359 --> 01:41:27,800
in the book or not, read it because the who

1705
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,640
are bringing this about are using it as their script.

1706
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 3: Well, the UN did indeed charge or Israel as a

1707
01:41:36,039 --> 01:41:39,119
sovereign nation. They were the ones who created this state.

1708
01:41:40,239 --> 01:41:43,079
Speaker 1: That's correct. It was really created by Great Britain in

1709
01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:46,520
the United States, with the United States being the major.

1710
01:41:47,399 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 3: Major Okay, and the Jewish people were then being manipulated

1711
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:57,079
into believing it was for some other reason.

1712
01:41:57,319 --> 01:42:00,560
Speaker 1: That's correct. They've always been manipulated. How I get people

1713
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,399
who still come to me all the time and say, Bill,

1714
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:05,199
you're all wrong. It's the Jews. The Jews are subverting

1715
01:42:05,239 --> 01:42:08,760
the world. Man, It's not the Jews, it's not the Catholics,

1716
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,199
it's not the Blacks. It's these men who belong to

1717
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:15,239
the ancient mystery schools who meet in secret decide the

1718
01:42:15,239 --> 01:42:18,720
fate of the world. And they belong to all different

1719
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:22,479
races and all different nationalities and all different religions. To

1720
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:27,479
the public point of view, but in secret, it's a

1721
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:28,159
different story.

1722
01:42:28,319 --> 01:42:31,159
Speaker 3: How about the European Community Here seems, based on your theory,

1723
01:42:31,399 --> 01:42:35,159
another group of sovereign nations coming together to form one.

1724
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:41,079
Speaker 1: The European Community. The EEC was created by the Central

1725
01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:44,880
Intelligence Agency working through a lodge in Italy called the

1726
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:48,920
P two Lodge. Propaganda two's the name of it, which

1727
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:53,039
is the intelligence arm of the Vatican, and Prince Barnard,

1728
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:59,359
who is the leader of the secret World Council. The

1729
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,560
control these secret societies are will called the Bilderberg Group.

1730
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:06,279
And that's the truth of the manner.

1731
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 3: M and during its creation, they just threw out Margaret Thatcher.

1732
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,279
Speaker 1: She was really opposing this, Yes she was, and that's

1733
01:43:16,319 --> 01:43:20,600
why she got ousted. Okay, so did the shob Iran,

1734
01:43:21,159 --> 01:43:27,600
So did Marcos. Anyone who opposes it gets ousted. That

1735
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:31,079
wasn't an overthrow of Marcos by the people in the Philippines.

1736
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:35,119
It was organized, instigated, and carried out by agents of

1737
01:43:35,159 --> 01:43:39,880
the Central Intelligence Agency in the KGB. The overthrow of

1738
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:42,520
the shob of Iran. Our intelligence community is trying to

1739
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,319
tell us they didn't know anything about it, they didn't

1740
01:43:44,359 --> 01:43:51,239
know what was happening. Bullshit. They organized it, they instigated it.

1741
01:43:51,359 --> 01:43:54,239
They are the ones who caused it to come to pants.

1742
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:59,720
You see, because we didn't have a National security agency

1743
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:04,920
or Central Intelligence agency before the UN Participation Act was signed,

1744
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,920
and these organizations were created to bring about the one

1745
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,680
world government of the New World Order, and it had

1746
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,479
to be done in a manner that the people would

1747
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:15,159
not know that it was being done. And the only

1748
01:44:15,159 --> 01:44:16,880
way they could do that was hide it behind the

1749
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:20,399
veil of national security. And the Cold War was a

1750
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:24,760
manipulation maintained to bleed the people of tax dollars to

1751
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,600
fund the creation of the police force of the New

1752
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,560
World Order, which is the army, navy, and air force

1753
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,960
and marines of the United States and the Soviet Union.

1754
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:38,600
And the people didn't rise up in the Soviet Union

1755
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:42,479
and overthrow communism. It came from the top down because

1756
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,000
it had to be done. There has to be a

1757
01:44:45,039 --> 01:44:48,000
bringing to the same level of all the peoples of

1758
01:44:48,039 --> 01:44:51,720
the world were approximately the same political viewpoints, so there's

1759
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,159
not big disparity in order to be able to justify

1760
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,720
the merger of all these countries together.

1761
01:44:57,800 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 3: Well, who now is ruling the forces of the former

1762
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,800
sc the Union? You have yelsin in now as Gorbachok

1763
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:04,720
went supposedly went down, but we're not.

1764
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Sure about that. Well, let me tell you this from

1765
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:10,119
the beginning, there was never any war between the United

1766
01:45:10,119 --> 01:45:12,840
States and the Soviet Union. It was created by those

1767
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:17,039
at the top to fund the New World Order and

1768
01:45:17,119 --> 01:45:23,159
the New World Order's police force. At the highest levels

1769
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:27,199
of all countries. They all belong to the same club,

1770
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,359
and we the people, sit back and we watch this

1771
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,960
grand drama which is being played out for our benefit,

1772
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,039
not theirs. It wasn't for us, they wouldn't even have

1773
01:45:41,079 --> 01:45:43,760
to do any of this. But you say, they just

1774
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:45,880
can't come out and destroy all of us because they

1775
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,680
need slaves. They need people to make their shoes and

1776
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:54,039
make their cars and mine the ore. They need worker bees.

1777
01:45:54,079 --> 01:45:56,560
And that's what we are in the new world order.

1778
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,520
We will be the worker bees, the slaves.

1779
01:45:59,399 --> 01:46:02,079
Speaker 3: So they Morwellian view of the vision of the future

1780
01:46:02,239 --> 01:46:04,119
wasn't too far off based on this scenario.

1781
01:46:04,199 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 1: George Orwell was just like me. He was a low

1782
01:46:07,039 --> 01:46:12,119
level member of British intelligence who was appointed to a

1783
01:46:12,159 --> 01:46:14,960
position high enough where he saw the same documents that

1784
01:46:15,039 --> 01:46:17,640
I saw, and he tried to warn the world, just

1785
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,159
like I'm trying to warn the world, Only he wasn't

1786
01:46:20,199 --> 01:46:22,159
willing to take the risk that I'm willing to take.

1787
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,800
So he wrote it in a book called nineteen eighty

1788
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:30,039
four and spelled out exactly what's coming as a warning

1789
01:46:30,079 --> 01:46:32,920
to the people of the world as a work of fiction.

1790
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,680
But you notice that that work of fiction really stirred

1791
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:42,640
people up because they knew that it wasn't fiction in

1792
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:46,239
their heart of hearts. Everyone who's read that book knows

1793
01:46:46,279 --> 01:46:49,720
that it's coming, right, it's a possibility most people won't

1794
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:57,039
recognize it overtly or publicly, because then if they recognize it.

1795
01:46:57,119 --> 01:47:00,479
They have to be responsible to do something about it.

1796
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:02,920
And that's what every one of you have been resisting

1797
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,039
all your life, is being responsible to do something about it,

1798
01:47:06,199 --> 01:47:11,159
to get involved. That's why you'll walk away from a

1799
01:47:11,199 --> 01:47:13,479
girl being raped on the street by a getting of

1800
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:17,800
thugs rather than go and try to help them. And

1801
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:19,760
I'm not talking to all of you. I know there's

1802
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,520
some of you out there just like me, but most

1803
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:28,119
of you are just exactly what I've just described. Most

1804
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:32,199
people are no better than animals who do not have

1805
01:47:32,279 --> 01:47:35,960
intelligence because they don't use their intelligence. And to these

1806
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,239
men who control things behind the seeds, M, you are

1807
01:47:39,319 --> 01:47:43,079
stakes on the table by choice and consent and will

1808
01:47:43,119 --> 01:47:46,800
always be ruled and manipulated and enslaved by people who

1809
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,640
do use their brains. M.

1810
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,199
Speaker 3: As long as we're debunking some myths, cause it's putting

1811
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:54,399
pieces of this puzzle together. I think for a lot

1812
01:47:54,399 --> 01:47:59,279
of people that may be watching the hostage situation in

1813
01:47:59,319 --> 01:48:02,279
Iran that that got Carter out office, is this another

1814
01:48:02,399 --> 01:48:04,640
orchestration and if so, how does it fit into.

1815
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:09,279
Speaker 1: The October surprise? Is no myth? There was a deal maid.

1816
01:48:10,079 --> 01:48:13,479
There was a deal made at the highest levels to

1817
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:18,439
keep the hostages until after Reagan was elected. Do you

1818
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,680
really believe that it was an accident, that it was

1819
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:25,279
a coincidence that thirty minutes after Ronald Reagan was sworn

1820
01:48:25,319 --> 01:48:29,199
in took his oath of office, the hostages were released.

1821
01:48:29,239 --> 01:48:31,159
Speaker 3: Did they want Carter really that naive?

1822
01:48:31,239 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 1: I can't believe it.

1823
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 3: Did they want Carter out?

1824
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:37,239
Speaker 1: Yes, they wan't Carter out. They wanted Carter out.

1825
01:48:39,159 --> 01:48:41,039
Speaker 3: He wouldn't play there by the rules.

1826
01:48:42,079 --> 01:48:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why they want any out, but they

1827
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:46,560
won any mount Carter was ineffective. They do not have

1828
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,560
the support of all the American people. They need people

1829
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,039
who can manipulate the American people so that they have

1830
01:48:53,079 --> 01:48:56,199
their support. My message is to you is don't support

1831
01:48:56,199 --> 01:48:58,319
anybody unless they're doing what we know to be right.

1832
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:02,039
Don't believe them, don't fall for the manipulations. Double check

1833
01:49:02,079 --> 01:49:02,920
everything they say.

1834
01:49:04,319 --> 01:49:06,319
Speaker 3: And that means you can't rely on the media as

1835
01:49:06,319 --> 01:49:07,159
it is today either.

1836
01:49:07,279 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: Oh, of course, not all the media in this country, Radio, television,

1837
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:15,159
and print is all owned by five corporations. All of

1838
01:49:15,199 --> 01:49:19,720
these corporations that own the media are owned and controlled

1839
01:49:20,239 --> 01:49:22,439
and members the Council and Foreign Relations sit on the

1840
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:23,279
Board of directors.

1841
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,520
Speaker 3: Can you name those five corporations?

1842
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:28,039
Speaker 1: Is that uh not off the top of my head? Okay,

1843
01:49:28,079 --> 01:49:29,760
I could try, but I don't wanna take a chance

1844
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:33,319
on being uh inaccurate. But you can trace that yourself. Okay.

1845
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,560
Remember if you go down and you trace the ownership

1846
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,880
of a station or a newspaper and you get to

1847
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,760
a corporation, remember that somebody owns that corporation and is

1848
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,920
usually another corporation. But when you when you trace the

1849
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,439
interlocking of all these things, when you get to the top,

1850
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:52,039
there's five. And all journalists know that there's some things

1851
01:49:52,079 --> 01:49:56,239
you don't write about and you don't talk about because

1852
01:49:56,279 --> 01:49:58,960
you'll lose your job. And that's where the control is,

1853
01:50:00,239 --> 01:50:02,880
and that's why they pay anchormen like Dan Rather two

1854
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:08,520
million dollars a year because he doesn't question them. He

1855
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:10,680
knows that if he goes against them, he's gonna lose

1856
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,239
two million dollars a year. Do you think a man

1857
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:15,319
that looks pretty and s sits in front of a

1858
01:50:15,359 --> 01:50:18,720
TV camera for the six o'hock news is worth two

1859
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:24,439
million dollars a year? No way. I don't care how

1860
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,399
long he works, and I don't care what he does.

1861
01:50:27,319 --> 01:50:30,119
There is no job worth two million dollars a year.

1862
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,479
That's why they pay athletes these fantastic salaries. I was

1863
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:35,800
listening to radio the other day. They just contracted to

1864
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:41,079
pay one player on one team six million dollars a year.

1865
01:50:42,039 --> 01:50:45,560
Can you believe this? And why is that? It's the

1866
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:50,159
Roman circus? What does the emperor do when the people

1867
01:50:50,239 --> 01:50:53,560
become restive and when the people are asking questions, and

1868
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,800
when the people don't like the policies of the emperor,

1869
01:50:57,039 --> 01:50:59,760
he sends them to the circus. He creates a circus,

1870
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:03,119
He builds a giant coliseum, and he begins to throw

1871
01:51:03,159 --> 01:51:05,560
the Christians to the lions. And he has great chariot

1872
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:11,479
races and football games and basketball games, all to keep

1873
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:15,960
the idiots preoccupied with things that don't mean anything in

1874
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,479
the scheme of the entire world, so that they don't

1875
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:22,560
have the time to learn what the truth is, so

1876
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,000
they don't ever get smart enough to learn how they're

1877
01:51:25,039 --> 01:51:31,680
being manipulated, so they don't ever question the emperor. That's

1878
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:35,239
why they pay a player on a football team or

1879
01:51:35,239 --> 01:51:38,800
a baseball team a million or two million or three

1880
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:45,479
million dollars a year. It is the Roman circus. I

1881
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,840
know men who don't know anything in the world except

1882
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who plays third base for the Mets, and they think

1883
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:55,199
that's a great accomplishment. And they meet and pat each

1884
01:51:55,199 --> 01:51:57,640
other on the back and bond and go have cocktails

1885
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:00,680
and talk about what this guy to play third base

1886
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:08,960
for the Mets did in last night's game. Sad, It's

1887
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really sad.

1888
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Speaker 3: Is there any room in in uh in a kind

1889
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of society where these manipulations are not taking in place

1890
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for this type of entertainment or any type of entertainment

1891
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at all.

1892
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Speaker 1: If people understand that a game is a game, If

1893
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,880
people understand that nobody, nobody, no matter what they do,

1894
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is worth paying two or three million dollars a year for.

1895
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People should be able to get rich if they want

1896
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to by the sweat of their individual labor, kay by

1897
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,640
the way hound of doing something for the world, not

1898
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by taking people's minds away from the emperor. It's a game.

1899
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:55,600
Football is a game. Football is a game. But let

1900
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me tell you something. When a hundred and fifty of

1901
01:52:59,199 --> 01:53:01,600
the most powerful men and women in the world can

1902
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:05,359
meet in secret in modern body in Germany can plot

1903
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:10,600
the fate of billions and nobody even cares about it.

1904
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But six football players go to lunch together, and it's

1905
01:53:15,279 --> 01:53:18,680
in the headlines across the country. You have a reflection

1906
01:53:19,319 --> 01:53:22,359
of the society in which that exists, and it is

1907
01:53:22,399 --> 01:53:27,800
a sick, sick society that it's doomed to self destruction.

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Speaker 3: So based on that scenario, there's some truth into what

1909
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:32,439
these men are looking at.

1910
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Speaker 1: Absolutely And that's what makes me so sick, is that

1911
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I'm trying to wake up of people who, on a

1912
01:53:37,279 --> 01:53:41,159
daily basis are proving the ones that I'm worrying them

1913
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about to be.

1914
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Speaker 3: Right well, so that even though a minority, there are

1915
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people out there that you recognize are awake to this.

1916
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If they don't do something about it, they will lose

1917
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,239
that ability to be free in that way, that's correct.

1918
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Whether they might think, well, I don't need to worry

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about it because I know what I know and I'm fine,

1920
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that doesn't work that way. There's a connection here to everything.

1921
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Speaker 1: That is correct. That is absolutely correct. A nation of

1922
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people who are willing to send their sons and daughters

1923
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that they profess that they love to a foreign country

1924
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:22,560
to die, and they used the excuse to themselves that

1925
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,840
they're sending them off to defend our country, and they

1926
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:29,199
know damn, well, that's a lot are doomed.

1927
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Speaker 3: M It's it's funny. There's a parable you said Ben

1928
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:37,399
Franklin earlier was even a part of this, Yes, a

1929
01:54:37,439 --> 01:54:39,960
parable of Ben Franklin. I don't know if you're familiar

1930
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:41,840
with it. He paid too much for the whistle. He

1931
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:43,279
came up when he was a young boy. Are you

1932
01:54:43,279 --> 01:54:48,439
familiar with that parable? Where when he was a young boy,

1933
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,520
he was given an allowance, and you know it, it

1934
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,399
was a decent amount of allowance, and he was going

1935
01:54:54,439 --> 01:54:56,479
to the to the store to get a toy. You know.

1936
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,600
He was very excited about that. And along the way

1937
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:02,079
he met some boys who had this whistle, you know,

1938
01:55:02,359 --> 01:55:03,960
and he and he saw that, and he saw the

1939
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:06,000
little boys blowing this whistle, and he thought, wow, the

1940
01:55:06,039 --> 01:55:08,880
greatest whistle. I this is the greatest toy. He really

1941
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:12,079
wanted this thing. So without asking, he gave all his

1942
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:15,720
money away, you know, to these boys for this whistle.

1943
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:19,439
And he went home and and sure enough, he got

1944
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:21,279
very bored with it, and he had no more money

1945
01:55:21,319 --> 01:55:24,720
to buy something that was really, you know, worthwhile to it.

1946
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Sure and so from that point on he had a

1947
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:28,640
saying that said, you know, don't pay too much for

1948
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:31,640
the whistle, and I think somehow that relates here.

1949
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Speaker 1: He's also the one when the Constitutional Convention was finished,

1950
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when they when they wrote the constitution and signed it.

1951
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When he had been signed, he walked out the doors.

1952
01:55:41,359 --> 01:55:43,960
Someone outside, I forget who it was. I believe it

1953
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,640
was a reporter for one of the newspapers in the

1954
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,600
thirteen Colonies ask him. He said, what have you rot

1955
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:54,239
Ben Ben looked at him and he said, a republic

1956
01:55:55,600 --> 01:56:04,079
if you can keep it. Mm hm. He knew he did,

1957
01:56:09,039 --> 01:56:13,239
mm hmm. And that's a good place to that's a

1958
01:56:13,239 --> 01:56:15,399
great ending. Wow.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the fact Hunter Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: Just the facts, mammy, mm hm