WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:01.879 Did you do this for me because we had a 2 00:00:01.919 --> 00:00:03.960 rough start to the show, because the first hour was 3 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:05.639 not our best? Is that why you're giving me a 4 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:07.799 little dave? Because I know Ck didn't pick it? 5 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:10.919 Oh he did, Oh he did. Oh. 6 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:13.400 Maybe he's doing it because he listened and realized it 7 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:14.480 was a rough start to the show. 8 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:17.960 I'm not entirely sure. I'm not entirely sure what his 9 00:00:18.600 --> 00:00:24.120 I gave him full full. 10 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:26.399 Choice on the musical, all right, c K two part 11 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:29.440 question why aren't you in studio? And why Tuesday instead 12 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:29.920 of Friday? 13 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:35.719 Well, busy week this week, and I had a staff 14 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:39.600 meeting that, like you know, I know people don't think 15 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:41.359 I have a real job, and oftentimes I don't. But 16 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:43.640 I had a staff meeting unfortunately that bumped up way 17 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:46.359 too close to this and it just got done at 18 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:48.359 like three oh one, so I wouldn't have been able 19 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:53.679 to swing it in person. So apologies, but duty calls, 20 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:55.960 as you know, And I'm sorry about the rough start 21 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.079 to the to the show. I wasn't aware, don't. I 22 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:01.159 don't know where we landed on opening tip. I don't 23 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:05.920 know if it was Isaiah Isaiah Colliers downhill ability or 24 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.840 the daltoncaid catch. But whatever you need, I'm here to help. 25 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:11.480 I wish I had texted you before because I would 26 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.400 have needed that for Opening Tip. And that's that's disappointing, 27 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.280 because I feel like Opening Tip is an everyday listen 28 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:18.599 for you. 29 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:24.200 It typically is, because like any good friend, I am 30 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:29.120 never lacking for good material to either help or tease 31 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.280 a good friend. So I missed it. So can you? 32 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.079 Can you bestow it upon me? Or are we trying 33 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:34.480 to move on? 34 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.079 No, I'm going to bring you into the content of 35 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:39.680 Opening Tip. The rough start is we just we had 36 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:42.680 a guest who was I'm sure a very capable guest, 37 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.640 but he was babysitting while he was talking, and so. 38 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.760 You know, it's been there, Spence, Yeah, it's been there. 39 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:51.120 Yeah, but it was like Leo times ten. So I 40 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:52.840 just had to let him go. It's it's all good, 41 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:56.159 We're fine. But you know, doing a sports soccer radio 42 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:58.640 show is not unlike doing any other job. Some days 43 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:00.959 you feel like you're doing a good job. Other days 44 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:03.079 you just you don't have it. It's like when you 45 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:05.319 sit down and you fire up the classical music and 46 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:07.519 you're ready to start writing a story. 47 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:08.520 You know, you strike me. 48 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:10.800 As a guy that at times might scrap something and 49 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:11.479 then start over. 50 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:12.080 Is that fair? 51 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:14.639 Oh, one hundred percent. It's got to be top down. 52 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:16.520 I think I've told you this. I think the monsters 53 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:19.120 who can write like in various spots and then put 54 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:21.879 it all together, that is That is alien behavior. That 55 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.879 is stuff that I am totally unable to do. My 56 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.199 OCD is just off the charts. It has to be 57 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.680 from the top down. And you're right, you're right about 58 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:35.319 the classical music man some Claire dealon on repeat. We're 59 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:39.199 not wrong, You're wrong on repeat repeat. Yeah, you got 60 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:40.240 to black out a little. 61 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:41.520 Bit, okay, like a mad scientist. 62 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:43.240 Who do you know in the business that writes the 63 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.599 way you just described, Like, who's the biggest alien that 64 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:45.879 you know? 65 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:48.639 Oh? I mean a lot of people are really good 66 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:52.280 at that. Some of our close friends. Faulk is very 67 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:56.000 very good at writing different pieces and different like portions 68 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:57.840 of the story and then putting it all together in 69 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.639 like ten minutes. I could never do that. It's just 70 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:03.199 it's a very very difficult gift. And I know that 71 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:07.960 your listeners are very much into the idea of journalism construction, 72 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:11.039 especially sports journalism. Construction. So I'm just here to tell 73 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:15.800 everybody that while this job doesn't seem real, it is 74 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.319 a creative task that sometimes can take its toll. 75 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:22.159 Do you take for granted because you reference you at 76 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:26.400 a staff meeting? And one of my favorite things about 77 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:29.080 what we do for a living is I don't have 78 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:30.879 to deal with a lot of meetings and I don't 79 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.080 have to return a lot of emails. I don't have to, 80 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:37.960 you know, do the everyday things that other jobs mandate. 81 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:40.280 And God blessed the people to do that because I 82 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:42.680 just I tried it. I wasn't great at it. And 83 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:44.719 I don't know if that's ADHD or the bing bong 84 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:49.280 brain or whatever. But because you don't have meetings, when 85 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:50.919 you do have meetings, how does that hit? 86 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.039 You know? It's funny you bring that up. Like I'm 87 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.719 pretty talkative, but sometimes, like for today example, it was, 88 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:01.000 you know, our college football staff just getting together to 89 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:03.039 kind of talk about the end of the season and 90 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:05.800 just look forward and kind of just bounce ideas. Very informal, 91 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:09.000 very informal, But today for some reason, I felt a 92 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.400 little spicy. Just got in there with some ideas, you know, 93 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.919 try to mix some things up. But That's that's it. Man, 94 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:18.279 Like I have, I really have just like one half court. 95 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.399 Even me, I don't think I could ever exist in 96 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:23.399 the realm where it's like you have multiple one of 97 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:26.160 these a day. I just I don't have it in me. 98 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:28.600 I understand that that is like coming from a point 99 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:32.480 of privilege beyond measure. But kudos to the folks who, 100 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:37.600 either digitally or in person, are able to just bounce 101 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:41.720 from one meeting to another because they're doing They're doing 102 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:43.439 a job and work that. Frankly, I know I could 103 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:43.800 never do. 104 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.560 I have a friend who works in a works for 105 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:49.160 a staffing company, and he's done very well. He's a 106 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:54.160 sweet guy, and for a decade, every morning Monday through 107 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:57.000 Friday at seven thirty am, they had what was called 108 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.839 their Red Zone meeting, and he had to be at work. 109 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.199 You had to be up president. You'd be president at work, 110 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:02.480 you know. 111 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:04.600 He had to dress up all the things, and it 112 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:07.120 was just an hour of them pumping each other up 113 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.120 and they would like jump up and down to get 114 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:10.240 ready to sell for the day. 115 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:11.639 Dude, he did that. 116 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.399 Sounds like some alpha con stuff spent. 117 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.240 It was a little bit, but he did that Monday 118 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:18.160 through shout out to the Bowl. He did that Monday 119 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:22.199 through Friday for ten years, every morning, red zone seven thirty. 120 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:24.000 Like there's not an amount of money you could pay 121 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:25.240 me to do that. 122 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:28.720 That sounds I mean a guy working all day in 123 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.480 the red zone. It's his name, Scott Hansen. 124 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.600 I understand you're a sports rider, but not everything has 125 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:38.720 the sports connotation. It was the red zone to get 126 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:40.519 people excited to go sell for the day. 127 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:43.839 Okay, well, I mean, I guess once you get inside 128 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.319 the twenty yard line, it is exciting the prospect of 129 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.920 you know, breaking the play into the goal line and scoring. 130 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:54.439 But what you described all I'm envisioning are very very 131 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:57.639 questionable scenes in Wolf Football Street. 132 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.759 Yeah, that it had that type of inner certainly at 133 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:02.560 the type of energy. So do you care to share 134 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.040 with the listenership any sweet, hot, hot leads, hot ideas 135 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:09.839 that you had on the zoom call, like a good 136 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.399 ckpiece to tease that we can get excited about. 137 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:15.879 No, I mean a lot of it and a lot 138 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.040 of what readers are interested in. Now Spence's roster construction. 139 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:21.480 As you know, I know, the Drive is one of 140 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:23.839 the most you know, pre eminent places in the market 141 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:28.360 to go to talk about roster construction and college football 142 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.879 with as we've talked about, with the wonkiness of the 143 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.759 house settlement, whether or not you know, certain schools will 144 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:39.439 have twenty point six million to be able to delineate 145 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.480 to various you know, programs and players in their athletic departments. 146 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.120 I mean, that's just always going to be a priority 147 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.480 for anybody, because the more reporting you can do on 148 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:51.240 that is going to be paramount to being able to 149 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:55.839 tell the most accurate and up to date stories. It's weird, man, 150 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.560 Like I can't think of what did we used to 151 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:01.199 talk about before? And I l on the transfer portal 152 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.040 in the offseason honestly, Like I was it just like 153 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.560 pitching depth charts? Is that what it was? 154 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:07.199 Yeah? 155 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.079 Wait, and we're talking way to early top twenty five 156 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.079 in a moment, way too twelve team in a month. 157 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.959 But yeah, to your point, And I do think these 158 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.839 stories that times can become a little bit exhausting. But 159 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:22.759 if you don't really understand the landscape, then I think 160 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.560 it's very easy to assume certain things that just aren't true. 161 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.839 And we keep talking about the Ohio State thing as 162 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:31.560 an example, and I am trying to loosely tie a 163 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:35.199 parallel to the way Utah has got about their business 164 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.360 this year by returning the bulk of a good defense. 165 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:39.959 They've lost a lot of good players, but you know, 166 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.720 a top twenty defense, and Kyle and Morgan have always 167 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.600 been known to have that locked in regardless of who's 168 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.639 on that side of the football. They have every one 169 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:51.279 in the old line back, and then they surrounded them 170 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:54.639 with skill position transfer players. It's exactly what Ohio State did. 171 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.319 It's exactly what Ohio State did. So yes, roster construction 172 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:00.720 is a big topic because it's a new thing that 173 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.759 I think we all need to learn about together well. 174 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.839 And Ohio State did a very impressive job of carving 175 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:13.439 out probably I'm in a ballpark like eight to ten 176 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.360 million dollars to go out and buy four guys that 177 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:20.560 basically for the final pieces of the puzzle. Will Howard, 178 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:26.480 Jeremiah Smith, Quinn, Shawn Judkins, Caleb Downs Like, if you're 179 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.319 going to get those guys from the portal or high 180 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:32.840 school and have them join a group that's already very talented, 181 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.840 that means you're doing things right and you're going to 182 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:38.279 have to pay a premium price. And obviously they did, 183 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.480 But I do think Ohio State and maybe you know, 184 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:44.440 the Georgias of the world are going to be operating 185 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:47.320 in a class of their own for a while until 186 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:48.960 all of this other stuff gets sorted out. 187 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:49.360 Well. 188 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.360 And the other thing that we could discuss during the 189 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:55.360 off season that isn't as much of a reality now 190 00:08:55.519 --> 00:09:00.559 is you know, back before this entire shift took it 191 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.759 was pretty easy to know what the team would look 192 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.440 like even in January, right because you knew who was 193 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.159 coming back, you knew who was going to the draft, 194 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.559 you know who was graduating. And now I feel, and 195 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.600 I told you this two weeks ago, prior to a show. 196 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:15.039 I sat down, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna do 197 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.759 the way too really big twelve football ranking thing, and like, 198 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.519 I don't remember anybody saying Arizona State would even be good, 199 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:25.360 let alone win it. Like so, I think the difference 200 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:29.039 now is it feels almost impossible to predict what schools 201 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:31.159 and teams are going to look like in the fall, 202 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.080 whereas four or five years ago this time of year, 203 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:35.960 we already kind of had a pretty good idea. 204 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:41.000 Yeah, I mean, I think to your point, you're basically Groundhogg. 205 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.600 Dang it, every single day in real time, because you 206 00:09:44.720 --> 00:09:48.559 might come up against a massive roster change that could 207 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:51.279 change the landscape of how a team can be viewed 208 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.240 going into that following season. And that's just the reality. 209 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:55.519 And it's not a good thing or a bad thing. 210 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.080 It just is what it is. So like I guess 211 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.600 springball used to be you know who's getting reps and 212 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.159 you know who's acclimatizing themselves the fastest. Like now it's 213 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.559 who's in the portal, who's not in the portal, who's 214 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.960 joined a program, who's not joined a program, And frankly, 215 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.960 I mean it does give in a weird way, Spence, 216 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.840 I think it does give more clarity in real time 217 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.840 as to where a roster sits, as opposed to just 218 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.279 pontificating like what something could be, if that makes sense, 219 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:32.120 Like you're you things are generally concrete. You're either on 220 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:34.440 the roster or you're not, and they can change really fast. 221 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.159 I get that, But like in the past, I felt 222 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:40.159 like it was to your point, like, oh man, you 223 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:44.080 know West Virginia's run rushing attack under Rich Rodriguez, watch out. 224 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.080 It was great to watch, great to play with on 225 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:49.320 NC DOUBLEA. But now it's like, Okay, Rich Rod's back 226 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:52.440 at West Virginia House. He going to be able to 227 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.200 you know, hit the portal and basically try to recapture 228 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:58.159 the magic of fifteen years ago or whatever. 229 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.200 So you're on a staff at the Athletic with some 230 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:05.039 of the biggest and best college football minds and media 231 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:05.720 members and writers. 232 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:07.960 Heavy hitters, heavy hitters, any. 233 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:12.440 Hitters, game changers, needle movers, you name it, uh, influencers 234 00:11:12.559 --> 00:11:15.600 if you'd like to go there. So when when when 235 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:19.440 you're on these calls with some of the most widely 236 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.480 read college football media members, what are the pitches? Is 237 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:26.039 most of it n I L transfer portal roster construction, 238 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:27.600 Like what's what what? 239 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:30.279 What's kind of like the topic the content that's moving 240 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:31.159 the needle right now? 241 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:33.399 We take bets on how long my hair is going 242 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.039 to grow, We take we take bet on next time 243 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:38.840 I'm going to shave the beer. We take bets on 244 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:41.879 how often I'm going to be stopped at t s 245 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.159 A Like, that's that's a good that's a good one. 246 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:45.440 That's always a good ice breaker? 247 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:46.600 Is PK on the caller? 248 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.720 It's it's it's everything, man, I mean, like I said, 249 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:56.519 this was more just the detalks of the season and 250 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.919 everybody kind of getting together and just you know, real 251 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:02.480 living the season and looking forward to the offseason. I mean, 252 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:06.120 it does feel like and I know, I'm I'm really 253 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.679 placating to my guys census here, but how was it 254 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:12.240 only January twenty eight? How did the season end eight 255 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:15.440 days ago? It felt like it ended a long time ago. 256 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.360 It did not. It ended last week. So we're in 257 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:20.759 the very early stages. But yeah, it's everything, man, It's 258 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.799 everything you would expect because covering college football and covering 259 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.559 college athletics now, Spence is like you have to understand 260 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:34.200 the sport. You have to understand understand scheme fit, personnel packages. 261 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.440 You know, I know, I know how big of a 262 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:41.440 two tight end personnel you got you are. I know 263 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:43.600 you're all about the twenty two personnel. 264 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:44.600 At least at least. 265 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.799 But it's also, like like you said, I mean, you 266 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.679 talk about it a lot on your show, man, it's 267 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.080 trying to understand all of these nuances that pop up 268 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:57.279 on a daily basis from a federal government point of view, 269 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.399 and how things may be put into place, how they 270 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:04.159 may not, what's going to temporarily be in place, what's 271 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:05.440 a lift, what's a hold? 272 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:05.799 What's this? 273 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.399 I mean, all this stuff is my I mean I 274 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:12.480 would just suggest to every fan spence to just do 275 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.200 two things. Get it. You know, I always have water 276 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.440 on hand to hydrate because you're stressed. And get some 277 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.759 et cedric migraine if you're going to try to understand 278 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:23.759 what's going on, because that sixty five milligram does to 279 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:27.000 caffeine is really going to help fight it. Otherwise, if 280 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:30.320 you just want to relax and just wait, I guess 281 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.759 for like, start a fall camp and in July. Just 282 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.080 do that because in the meantime, things are going to change, 283 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:38.080 and things are going to shuffle about at such a 284 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:40.240 rapid pace that it's going to make your head spin. 285 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:42.120 Man, my LDS family loves et C. 286 00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:47.039 It's like it's it's the best. It's easily the best. 287 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:47.480 In the vein. 288 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.120 I don't I don't remember the last time I had any, etc. 289 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:52.200 But I'm glad that that's kind of where we're at here. 290 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.080 So now let's get over to Oh wait, one more thing. 291 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.000 The athletic college football staff. When you guys are lining 292 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:02.840 up for the zoom call, who's the one member You're like, 293 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:04.240 I really hope Vanini doesn't join us. 294 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:05.559 Who's the one guy you don't want on the call? 295 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.519 I mean, all those guys are so much smarter than 296 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:11.799 me that I want them on the call. It's kind 297 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:14.519 of like, and you're gonna have to let me go here. 298 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:16.559 You're gonna have to let me belittle myself so you 299 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.600 can't fight me on it. It's kind of like when 300 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:20.799 you're in school and you're hoping you don't get called on, 301 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.759 you know, it's kind of like, oh, shoot, I hope, 302 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:27.600 I hope this me being able to hide in this 303 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.240 back row, in the back left seat of this classroom 304 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:33.360 doesn't get me picked on. Luckily, there's a lot smarter 305 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.759 people that I work with Spence, so they generally know 306 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:40.519 how to, you know, steer these things. But there is 307 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:42.639 nobody that I don't want to see on a zoom call. 308 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.320 I want to see Vanini on the call because he's 309 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:50.440 the He's the guy that simultaneously has the most ideas. 310 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.159 He loves professional wrestling. Dude. When I told Vannini I 311 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:57.240 was going to like Reno's like middle nowhere Reno to 312 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:01.679 hang out with stone Cold, the blood left his face. 313 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.799 He was so awestruck and so jealous that I felt 314 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:09.120 bad because I know for a fact that like that 315 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:15.480 would have made his like millennium. So that's a shout 316 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:19.519 out for our guy. Nobody, nobody, Nobody works harder than Chrispinini. 317 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:22.080 Nobody, by the way, is pro wrestling back. 318 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:24.759 I don't think it's not back for me, but it 319 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:27.679 might be back for others. Is Jake Paul a professional wrestler? 320 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:30.639 I don't know. He just box his seven year old dudes. 321 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:32.759 I don't think he's a wrestler, but I heard. 322 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:34.720 I heard he's gonna box his brother. Are we going 323 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:35.559 to watch that? Oh? 324 00:15:35.559 --> 00:15:38.000 Well, talk about a win win. If I could quote 325 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:39.799 Michael Scott, that's a win, win, win win. 326 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:42.159 I don't know. I fired up Netflix the other night. 327 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.399 They're like, hey live in one hour w w E 328 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:47.919 RAW and I saw the data and like thirty million 329 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:50.840 people watched it, you know, I mean I was like 330 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:54.879 an ultimate wrestler, you know, the the ultimate warrior, you know, 331 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:59.360 like that era macho man, macho man, young hold Kogan 332 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:00.679 before he earned. 333 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:04.480 Right before he went before he went full in wo indeed. 334 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:06.879 So, but I stopped watching when I was like twelve, 335 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:08.720 and it feels like maybe I need to start watching 336 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:09.799 again it feels like it's back. 337 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:13.159 I mean, can we can we like test the Watters? 338 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:16.720 Can we ask Connor like? And I think that's that's 339 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:18.720 that's the age range that you need to figure out 340 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:20.440 if it's back or not, because if it's hitting with 341 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:23.480 those youngs, I think then then that can give us 342 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:25.000 some more accurate tests we have. 343 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:28.279 We have a young in the studio porter doesn't strike 344 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:32.919 me as a w WE guy. Is so to your knowledge, 345 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.720 your your ecosystem, your echo chamber is, is pro wrestling 346 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:38.240 back in a way that maybe I'm not giving a 347 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:38.639 credit for. 348 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:43.840 I am not quite the young to ask because you yea, yeah, 349 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.120 So I do know that there's been an influx of 350 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:53.960 money from the Middle East, and also the Netflix streaming thing, 351 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.919 I think just based on the the usual people to watch, 352 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:00.679 I think is probably a really good move that you 353 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:06.119 having to catch it live, right, it's kind of surging, 354 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:08.559 But I don't know if it's back, all right? 355 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:10.319 Fair enough, And yeah, you are the wrong young to 356 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:14.400 ask how many during uh during COVID, what was the 357 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.680 average amount of time you spent on on zoom because 358 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:18.799 that's when we all kind of. 359 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:23.799 Were introduced to the medium. Oh Man, was it daily 360 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:25.440 with the athletics. 361 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.400 Probably early on when everyone was scrambling trying to figure 362 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.519 out what's going to happen from a minute to minute basis, 363 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:39.119 It was pretty often weirdly though, Spence, like with the 364 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:43.880 advent of zoom, it's helped me, like with actually getting 365 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:46.519 to know, like interview subjects from a better point of 366 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:49.559 view than just a phone call. Like sometimes depending on 367 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.400 the type of story I'm working on, like I will 368 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.240 ask somebody, can you zoom? Can you google me? Can 369 00:17:55.279 --> 00:17:58.799 you FaceTime? Because there's something so much more personal and 370 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:01.880 real and genuine about, you know, meeting somebody and seeing 371 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:04.440 their face and like, you know, rather than just a 372 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.119 cold call, you know, the three eight five spam call 373 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:09.960 that poisons are all of our cell phones every single 374 00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:11.799 minute of every single day these days. 375 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.480 Porter, were you on the zoom call? I was on 376 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:16.480 one zoom call. 377 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.680 Yes, yes, answer is yes. 378 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:26.079 So throughout the course of the entire COVID situation, I 379 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:29.119 was invited to jump on one. Well that's not true. 380 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:32.160 I was invited to jump on seven, and then I 381 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:34.359 just declined because I didn't want to. And then you 382 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:37.240 were playing you don't have to, you don't have to 383 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:39.279 expose what I was doing. We were all just trying 384 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:42.720 to stay alive. So then I was finally like strongly encouraged, 385 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:44.359 like you've got to jump on these calls, man. 386 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:45.839 So I jumped on one call. 387 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:49.640 I think Porter was like eight thirty nine in the 388 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:52.599 morning and something like that. I had just I'm still 389 00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:57.119 in bed and I'm on the call, and I thought 390 00:18:57.319 --> 00:18:59.960 that I had turned the video portion of the zoom 391 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:05.799 off and proceeded to walk into the men's room, proceeded 392 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:08.000 to sit down to handle the business. 393 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:10.759 And also I had as best best, best, best, best best. 394 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:15.119 Meds and our general sales manager at the time was 395 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:17.359 yelling at me because I didn't turn the camera off, 396 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:19.279 and the entire Zoom call saw me sit down to 397 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.319 handle my business. I was not invited back after that, Chris, 398 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:24.519 that was the one Zoom call I was on. That's 399 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:26.319 a true story. By the way, I'm not making Porter 400 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:28.000 back me up. That's a true story. 401 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:29.559