Speaker 1: When she got to that fence at the border of
China and North Korea, she looked up and it's this huge,
enormous piece of steel jetting up into the sky and
there's barbed wire at the top, and she had no
idea how she was going to get over that.
Speaker 2: This is The Miracle Files. I'm Emily Jones.
Speaker 3: And I'm Holly Worthington. We're two sisters who love a
captivating true story, but we're also seeking more light in
our lives.
Speaker 2: So we're on a mission to find and share unforgettable,
uplifting stories of God's miracles. We hope you'll join us
on this journey. Welcome back to the Miracle Files. In
this bonus episode, Holly sat down with author Heidi Tucker.
She helped Geuon and Too Hyun write their story and
Necessary Lie and it is fascinating. She shared some really
cool details about Geon's side of the story. In fact,
there's a whole new miracle story that we weren't even
aware of. So we hope that you will enjoy this
conversation as much as we did.
Speaker 4: We have Heidi Tucker here, Yeah, so happy to be here. Okay, So,
how are you affected by this story. I know how
it affected us completely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like most of you, I knew that North Korea
was up there above South Korea. I knew that there's
this crazy dictator named Kim Joe Nun who keeps firing
off missiles and making everybody nervous. I knew it was
a communist country, and that's kind of about it, you know.
So learning everything that I learned about North Korea and
then just really digging into day to day life in
North Korea, it completely sort of rewired me. And I
feel like I'm so grateful for very simple basic things.
You know, when I step into the hot shower, I'm
so grateful that the water comes out of the faucet
and food in my refrigerator. I mean, I think about
those things all the time now, and I didn't. I
sort of took them for granted. So I'm so grateful
for the freedoms. I also have such an empathy for
what I'll call my brothers and my sisters in North
Korea who don't know any better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is definitely how it affected us as well.
We both just sat and cried, honestly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I tried writing the book.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure you cried a lot. Okay,
So how did you meet these guys? How did you
end up being the writer for the book? So?
Speaker 1: I met them because my publisher heard about their story.
Someone had talked to him about the story. They had
heard this person had heard them speak. He says, I
have your next book. Just hear me out on this, Heidi,
because this is an incredible story and if you don't
get out of it, you know someone else will. And
I was overwhelmed on two different levels. Number One, I
was overwhelmed with how incredible it was and the miracles
that I saw that were happening throughout their story. And secondly,
I was overwhelmed at the prospect of writing this book.
But I felt called to do that, and I don't
take writing projects lightly, and so I really have to
feel sort of spiritually that that's my next project, that
I've been called to do that, and I felt that
with this story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what is your favorite part of the story? Oh,
hard question.
Speaker 1: Such a hard question. Something that's really incredible to me
that I just have never forgotten. When I was doing
some of the interviews with them. Is Gionne talking about
when she got to that fence at the border of
China and between you know, North Korea and China. She
had made it to the to the tall fence and
she looked up right and it's this huge, enormous piece
of steel jetting up into the sky and there's barbed
wire at the top, and she had no idea how
she was going to get over that, but she began
to climb. And she told me that all of a
sudden she found herself, you know, and you you hear
guards right there coming. I've got to get over this fence,
she said, all of a sudden, I found myself sitting
at the base on the other side, and her clothes
were torn, her hands were bloody, and she doesn't remember
going over the fence.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: And she said, clearly I was helped because she just
didn't remember. And it gives me goosebumps just to tell
it again now. And I've known the story for years,
and so there were so many miracles throughout this story.
Speaker 4: But that's why so many really.
Speaker 1: Really affected me when she told me about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so many miracles and their story, and we
didn't we weren't able to cover them all in our podcast.
So hopefully people will read the book too, and I
guess there's a movie coming out as well, Is that right.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So do you have any idea when that will
come out or what the plan is there?
Speaker 1: The initial goal was twenty twenty seven. I hope it
makes that, if not, certainly twenty twenty eight. So I
know that the script is finished. I haven't read the script,
but I've been told by the executive producer who has
that it'll absolutely knock your socks off.
Speaker 4: So I'm so excited to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many angles to getting it on this
big screen, but I hope that that really happens, and
we feel we feel passionate about it and feel like
we've been called to that work and we just want
the world to know what's happening on the other side
of those barbed wire fences. Because when you just read
a Time magazine article, or you we had a newspaper article,
or you clue into into some YouTube channel that talks
about North Korea, you don't get the detail. No, definitely
kind of get an overview. And in fact, twin when
the Kims, when we first were sitting down talking about
how to organize this book. They said to me in
the beginning, they would say, you know, Heidi, this is
really a love story. And I remember thinking, yeah, yeah,
but let's get onto the escape, right, Yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 3: And as we.
Speaker 1: Began to really dig and I peeled back the layers
of that onion and just really learned their story. Now,
I'm like, yeah, that's a love story. It's a love
story with an escape. And the fact that it's just
completely true just blows your mind, doesn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my gosh, Yeah, yeah. I still can't believe
not only that they went through all of this, but
that there are so many other people going through similar
experiences that are just trapped in that, you know, And
it's really hard to think.
Speaker 1: Now Kim Jong lun has really clamped down on the
borders and he's he's really fortified the military.
Speaker 4: I read it's so much harder to escape now.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so hard to escape now that you
know the brokers. It's so dangerous that you can't even
pay a broker to go in anymore. They just they
just won't. It's too risky. So those people are really
trapped and they just you know, who knows how many
are starving these days. You know what kind of a
food situation is happening. It's so secretive. Yeah, so we
just don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, is there anything else you want to share?
Speaker 1: Just that I I write a lot of inspirational books,
and there's there's some really great lessons in all of
the books. But this is the only book that I
have sort of publicly promised readers and people that learn
about this story that it'll absolutely change your life. And
I've never said that about any of my other books.
And I love my other books, but I've never said
that it'll change your life, and it really truly does.
It sort of changes your focus. It makes you feel
differently about refugees and about North Koreans and and forget
all the surface level stuff that we hear in the news.
This story will take you deep into the homes of
North Korea.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right, Well, thank you so much. Thank
you appreciate you just talking with me and sharing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. And we are so excited
for this to hit the big screen. It's cooed known
films dot org. If you want to be in on
all the developments that are happening. So k n O
w Nwnfilms dot org. Yeah, awesome, So if you know
sign up for emails from that, then you'll know exactly
what's happening and how close we're getting.
Speaker 5: Okay, great, Well, we want to thank Heidi Tucker for
sharing her thoughts with us, and if you'd like to
read a Necessary Lie, you can find it on Amazon
or in bookstores and make sure you subscribe to The
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