Speaker 1: Good evening, Hugo, evening. We're back with the fire Escape.
Speaker 1: That's not the actual name rhymes with the evening. Why
Speaker 1: did you change it? I'm no, it doesn't no way,
Speaker 1: good evening, hugo.
Speaker 2: Oh that's what you said, weavening.
Speaker 1: You could have just end weaving nor No, I do
Speaker 1: actual rhymes. I'm not lazy, no low hanging fruit. I'm
Speaker 1: your host as always. Michael Maharty here with Dan Riker.
Speaker 2: Yes that's me.
Speaker 1: I and Mary Kish I'm also here. Uh well, one
Speaker 1: of these days I'll get it without you interrupting Dan.
Speaker 1: But until until the.
Speaker 2: Discover a better there's got to be a better interest.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry. Hi everyone, welcome back to our podcast
Speaker 1: about video games.
Speaker 2: This is worse.
Speaker 1: What do you do a good one?
Speaker 2: I don't do interest because I had's too much pressure.
Speaker 2: I don't like the host podcast. I just respond to
Speaker 2: things on them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's way more fun to not host, like yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Just kind of sit there and respond to stuff.
Speaker 1: It's great for those days when I went on the
Speaker 1: Beast Cast and Vinnie did all the heavy lifting.
Speaker 2: Oh god, Vinnie was real good of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was really good.
Speaker 2: But Vinnie rest in peace.
Speaker 1: Dan, you're looking super tan. No not no, it's my
Speaker 1: segue into Ruba.
Speaker 3: And we all know that Dan goes to tan his
Speaker 3: buns off.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually I did lay around outside. I went to
Speaker 2: the went to the Flamingo Island. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you know about that in a Ruba it's just.
Speaker 1: Like shaped like a.
Speaker 2: Flamingo's running around everywhere. It's great.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: I just lay in a beach chair for like five
Speaker 2: hours and flamingos running around and drinking cocktails. It was great.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was just uh for the Minnesota winters. Obviously, they
Speaker 2: get real rough, and typically like February is about the
Speaker 2: worst time because it's just like it's been long enough
Speaker 2: that you're so fucking ready for it to be over,
Speaker 2: but there's still a good amount left and you're in
Speaker 2: like the deep freeze part of it. So I think
Speaker 2: Bonk and I decided we want to start, like you know,
Speaker 2: frequently doing like a Ruba trips, like maybe every year.
Speaker 3: In February May Aruba. Why not, like just because you
Speaker 3: know a lot of birds fly south for winter, but
Speaker 3: you guys are specifically choosing Aruba.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went in twenty twenty two and maybe we were,
Speaker 2: so we just want to go someplace warm, you know,
Speaker 2: And we found this and heard a lot of people
Speaker 2: saying great things about it, and we loved it so
Speaker 2: much that we're like, well, we could try different ones.
Speaker 2: We could try Dominican Republic or Jamaica or Bermuda or whatever,
Speaker 2: but we fucking love Aruba. So I think we're just
Speaker 2: going to keep doing that. And this was even better
Speaker 2: in the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I been into a Ruba twice. It's but as
Speaker 3: a child.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's probably different than how we spent it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, back in the day when my dad worked at
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter, but I probably probably Procter and Gamble.
Speaker 3: This was back in the day when sales guys used
Speaker 3: to get crazy kickbacks and the government just looked the
Speaker 3: other way. And one of the I feel like I
Speaker 3: can tell the story now because he's retired. I don't
Speaker 3: think they'll come for him.
Speaker 1: I think there's a statute of limitations on stuff like that.
Speaker 3: For the record, So he murdered a guy. I think
Speaker 3: I think that back then, if you sold enough, they
Speaker 3: would be like, and you win a trip to Aruba
Speaker 3: with the family of four, a major award, And so
Speaker 3: he won it two years once. I was like probably seven,
Speaker 3: so I have like no memories of this trip. But
Speaker 3: I went to Arubo with my dad on like a
Speaker 3: business trip, and they told me when I was much older,
Speaker 3: He's like, just so you know, those were free work trips,
Speaker 3: didn't pay a dime. Like that's so sick, but also
Speaker 3: like kind of crazy that you're allowed to do that
Speaker 3: as an old you know, like as a as a
Speaker 3: working salary man.
Speaker 1: God, I missed the eighties. Those you could do you.
Speaker 3: Could wait with all sorts of crazy shit back.
Speaker 1: Then, back then, before before the country realized how much
Speaker 1: damage it was doing to itself economically. I don't know
Speaker 1: enough about the eighties to talk intelligently about it. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even alive during the eighties, but I feel like
Speaker 1: I want to fit in in the eighties.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, eighties, dude, don't you like you just look
Speaker 3: like someone.
Speaker 1: Finally someone said it. Been going for that for like
Speaker 1: years now.
Speaker 2: No, I've been thinking it. I didn't say it, but yeah.
Speaker 3: New York City stockbroker from the eighties with acts to
Speaker 3: grind and you know, just a pension for fucking like
Speaker 3: just ready to go at any minute.
Speaker 1: Company card ready to fucking slam down on some sick bordos.
Speaker 3: Looking for a man in finance. Yeah, I think that's fine.
Speaker 1: But now, uh no, I was speaking of eighties. I
Speaker 1: watched We watched mcgroober again recently and Roadhouse literally it's safe.
Speaker 2: God bless you, God bless you. Yeah. You texted me
Speaker 2: that while I was in the Rooby I think, and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you're You're my favorite couple. That's
Speaker 2: the greatest thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a couple. We had a week, quite
Speaker 1: a week, so like, let's watch I don't want to watch,
Speaker 1: like I think we intended to watch a few more
Speaker 1: movies we hadn't caught up on from twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: like what about like not Train Dreams, but like not
Speaker 1: that vibe. We're like, let's do mcgroober.
Speaker 3: I don't want to cry tonight, honey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that got us in the mood for Roadhouse the original.
Speaker 1: I have not seen the Jake Jillen Hall want.
Speaker 2: You can skip it. It's it's not it's not a
Speaker 2: nightmare or anything, but it's not worth it. There's no
Speaker 2: reason to watch when you could just watch the first
Speaker 2: one again.
Speaker 1: So awesome.
Speaker 2: We we watched something right before Ruba. That wound up
Speaker 2: being funny because, uh I going into a Ruba, it
Speaker 2: was like, all right, it's so cold. It's February, and
Speaker 2: I was kind of stressing because it's like I got
Speaker 2: a couple of bargoed games that it's like, oh man,
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna be able to play
Speaker 2: enough before I go on vacation. I want to be
Speaker 2: able to record this quick. Look, I want to do this.
Speaker 2: It was Mario Tennis. It was embargoed at the time,
Speaker 2: and I watched. If I had legs, i'd kick you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I've seen it. It's I'm interested
Speaker 3: what you think. I have an opinion about it.
Speaker 2: I loved it. It was like uncut gems for like
Speaker 2: stressed moms. So but it was basically it's like the
Speaker 2: short version is it's like Rosebyrne is a woman. Uh
Speaker 2: I forget where they say where she lived or whatever,
Speaker 2: but anyway, she's got a daughter that's like got a
Speaker 2: horrible eating her stomach situation, has a tube in her stomach,
Speaker 2: and her husband's like a cruise ship pilot, so he's
Speaker 2: out for like a week. She's going through all these
Speaker 2: nightmares at work. This kid is unhealthy. Like it's just
Speaker 2: like it's like Uncut Gems levels of stress and insane
Speaker 2: stuff she's dealing with for a week. And I watched
Speaker 2: that and it really kind of reframed my complaints of
Speaker 2: like it's kind of cold and I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'm going to have time to play Mario tennis before
Speaker 2: I go to a Ruba.
Speaker 3: You don't need to watch a horrible person existence to
Speaker 3: know that you are the most privileged boy.
Speaker 2: This is a stark reminder of like, okay, this isn't
Speaker 2: maybe stress is a relative term.
Speaker 1: You know, don't yet I'm so whoed.
Speaker 2: Grow up.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a miserable film. I did not care
Speaker 3: for it, and I think it's I think it's a
Speaker 3: masterclass in storytelling. I think it's well done. She's she's
Speaker 3: an excellent actress. My complaints are not about the direction,
Speaker 3: the story, the acting, all of that phenomenal. My problem
Speaker 3: is is I don't want to watch the saddest woman
Speaker 3: in existence for two and a half hours slowly, like
Speaker 3: want to die. It's a really hard watch. And like
Speaker 3: Uncut Gems is not that it is just like what's
Speaker 3: gonna happen next. Oh my god, he's gonna get caught.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that girls like trying to have sex
Speaker 3: with him. Oh my god, he's gambling too much. All
Speaker 3: of this is like exciting hers. It's just like, Gem, God,
Speaker 3: this woman can't even drink a bottle of wine. Her
Speaker 3: daughter's dying right in front of her, and she's like
Speaker 3: wasting away.
Speaker 2: It's trying drugs on the dark web with her like
Speaker 2: apartment neighbors.
Speaker 3: Miserable.
Speaker 1: That sounds it told me.
Speaker 2: It is, like, yeah, I guess I'm cut. Gems is
Speaker 2: like a movie movie with like you know, big, larger
Speaker 2: than life characters, and this is just like, oh, realistic
Speaker 2: problems that people can very realistically go through. You're just watching.
Speaker 2: It happens to people.
Speaker 3: Every day, and like a shit, it's like shit, healthcare system.
Speaker 1: Shit.
Speaker 3: She like can't get like someone to fix a fucking
Speaker 3: hole in her house, so she can't live there, so
Speaker 3: she's staying in a shitty hotel and like no one
Speaker 3: will fix it. And it's just this miserable story.
Speaker 2: But O'Brien is your therapist.
Speaker 3: He's not funny at all, not at all, And that
Speaker 3: shit pissed off because she opens the door. She's upset,
Speaker 3: she's crying about her shitty life on a couch and
Speaker 3: she's got a therapist and the camera slowly pans up
Speaker 3: and it's Conan O'Brien and I literally went yay, he's
Speaker 3: probably gonna do something wacky and absolutely plays a straight,
Speaker 3: straight laced, no funny, no sas guy the entire time.
Speaker 3: Not one joke out of this man.
Speaker 1: It is hilarious.
Speaker 2: It's ronny, so it's like the Weirdestrien.
Speaker 3: Not funny. It's a very serious film. I cannot understate this.
Speaker 3: It's a serious tone film. And every scene with him,
Speaker 3: he's like, you got to get out of here. You
Speaker 3: can't handle this right now. And it's just like, where
Speaker 3: the fuck are you to take a serious role with
Speaker 3: that face?
Speaker 2: Jeez, wow, he is a clown.
Speaker 3: We know this. He was ridiculous. The joke when he
Speaker 3: takes photos is people are like, man, I didn't even
Speaker 3: know lesbian could do that, Like he just looks like
Speaker 3: redheaded lesbian. He does not do the scissor cut mood.
Speaker 3: He doesn't do any of his he doesn't do any
Speaker 3: of his signature lines. It is it is ripping me
Speaker 3: from my awareness of what I thought of, like there
Speaker 3: was just no comedic relief what at.
Speaker 2: The end though, it's it's a great thing, like, man,
Speaker 2: we have kids. That seems great.
Speaker 3: Fucking nuts so that I can't believe it. I think
Speaker 3: it's interesting that we have such different.
Speaker 1: Getting a dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just like a window into like I
Speaker 2: think I enjoy is a weird word, I guess, but
Speaker 2: it was like it was it's just like an eye
Speaker 2: open and thing of like, oh man, I bet some.
Speaker 1: Lives are really like that's it.
Speaker 2: How do people do that? You know, Like she's dealing
Speaker 2: with a fucking lot in that movie, and it's like
Speaker 2: it didn't win at the end of it. It's like
Speaker 2: I kept waiting for it to go into horror or
Speaker 2: something crazy, and it's like, wait no, that's just actually
Speaker 2: just her life's horrific. Is an extremely stressful life, and
Speaker 2: it's very really.
Speaker 3: Really it's a really difficult life. I will say. I
Speaker 3: will also like acknowledge I think it's a worthy watch.
Speaker 3: And we often like we glamorize stressful films, you know,
Speaker 3: uh as like wow, what a crazy ride? This one
Speaker 3: is not that. I think it's just meant to be
Speaker 3: a stark reality of how tough life can be, especially
Speaker 3: for like caregivers. But god, I would never watch it again.
Speaker 2: No, I bonk and I agreed on that too, or
Speaker 2: so we both enjoyed it, but it's like, and we
Speaker 2: would recommend it to people, but I cannot imagine being
Speaker 2: like I'm at the mood to watch if I had
Speaker 2: legs tonight. You like, yeah, it's like that's a one
Speaker 2: Q we am.
Speaker 3: For a dream if it just focused on one sad
Speaker 3: fucker for the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yes, and no double sided dildo, which is like, no.
Speaker 2: Conan goes to town.
Speaker 3: All right, now that's funny. I'm back in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, I can stretch that wide. It's my first
Speaker 1: time I ever tried Conan O.
Speaker 2: Mike, Mike. I promised Mary I'd keep this part short
Speaker 2: here and for the viewers, promised that we're gonna do
Speaker 2: lightning round style here. Okay. I thought of you a
Speaker 2: lot when I went to this place called it's my
Speaker 2: favorite restaurant. They're called Two Fools in a BOWLT And
Speaker 2: it's a prefixed type thing where it's like like, you know,
Speaker 2: fifteen people can get in a night and it's this
Speaker 2: hours long thing where there's courses and they take you
Speaker 2: out and during a campaign and it's just like a hole.
Speaker 2: It's your whole night basically, and you can do the
Speaker 2: reserve wine pairing, which is like the super nice wines
Speaker 2: apparently as they sold it to us. But the whole
Speaker 2: time I'm thinking, like I got to hear what Maharty
Speaker 2: has to say about. Okay, so I'm going to list
Speaker 2: some of the wines I tasted. I forget what I
Speaker 2: paired it with, and you just give me a one
Speaker 2: sentence rundown.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, Okay, Yeah, there's a chance I don't
Speaker 1: even know where some of them are from, but I'll
Speaker 1: do my best.
Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna look like a horse's ass if that's
Speaker 2: the case. Test test seller selection dom Perion Champagne twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Oh, don Perion, that's a good champagne. Yeah, okay, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always very very solid champagne. Is it a good
Speaker 1: year twenty twelve? You said, yeah, I believe it was
Speaker 1: a cooler year, probably higher like lifted laser acid as
Speaker 1: opposed to rich Jesus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, okay. Casanova Danieri, Brunello di Montalcino Carolato, Tuscany
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. Brunello Brunelo.
Speaker 3: Wait, that was one wine.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking at on this mirror. Ready, h
Speaker 2: first the first two words, Casanova Danari, Brunello.
Speaker 1: Casanova Denar. Yeah, Brunello's Southern Tuscany. It's like lower elevation
Speaker 1: sangives a full bodied probably oh literally has to spend
Speaker 1: has to spend five years aging before they even release
Speaker 1: it to the public.
Speaker 2: Okay, Baron, I have a reserved Napa Valley twenty seventeen cats.
Speaker 1: Oh, Katy, I've never had that. I've had their sparkling.
Speaker 1: They're more famous for their sparkling or no, no, no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's uh. I'm thinking of Shamsburg. Yeah, Baringer, it's a
Speaker 1: classic Napa cab Tomahawk rock. That's also Napa.
Speaker 3: I isn't that dumb?
Speaker 1: Napa?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ron Diamond Selection Napa Valley twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: Oh god, they really went hard on Napa after the
Speaker 1: first one. Oh wow, Okay, so that's what porn Three
Speaker 1: Palms Vineyard, Okay, Napa Valley on like all these if
Speaker 1: you had a glass of opus one, that's that's good.
Speaker 1: One of the like the o G First Growth Bordeaux
Speaker 1: Houses started it with Robert Mundavi to make wines over here.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's good though, so are these?
Speaker 2: So? Are these good? Were these good? Are they blown smoke?
Speaker 1: Okay no, no, no, it's it's a very very if
Speaker 1: like if if it sounds like you got your money's worth,
Speaker 1: there's no crazy, Well yeah, that's very true. I guess
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: I mean it was very for all those and like
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: Are all pricey wines for the most part if you
Speaker 1: were to get them by the bottle, So I'm sure
Speaker 1: like I'm probably a three ounce or something that that
Speaker 1: sounds like a great list, yes, okay, no surprises, but
Speaker 1: like that's not I don't think that's what most people
Speaker 1: that are looking for. It's a it's a good list, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like I like the prefix thing. That is the
Speaker 2: first place I've done that at and I really liked
Speaker 2: it a lot.
Speaker 3: Play fixes too, because I like the idea that I
Speaker 3: don't have to make a decision. I like the idea that,
Speaker 3: like a chef somewhere is like, this is what you
Speaker 3: want and you'll like it, And I'm like, yes, sir, yeah.
Speaker 2: You would never order it, but I like, yeah, stuff
Speaker 2: you would never order off a menu, and one if
Speaker 2: it was like salmon cheesecake or something or something weird
Speaker 2: like that, and I was like, I would never fucking
Speaker 2: order that off a menu. But it's like you just
Speaker 2: put your trust and then it's like, Okay, these people
Speaker 2: are really good at what they do, and then you
Speaker 2: eat it's like, yep, I never would have ordered that,
Speaker 2: but that was incredible. I've never tasted anything like that
Speaker 2: in my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's yeah, some of my favorite places. And I
Speaker 1: was just I was just talking to someone who's going
Speaker 1: to Dublin in the beginning of April, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have a couple of recommenations if you need them,
Speaker 1: and we were on a work call with them and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, yeah, immediately I would love some. And
Speaker 1: it was funny because I think I had two of
Speaker 1: my favorite meals in a long long time back to
Speaker 1: back nights in Dublin. The first one was Delear Street.
Speaker 1: It was a Michelin star restaurant. It's wine pairing. It
Speaker 1: was a prefeed like everything you were just talking about
Speaker 1: really good wines, like knowledgeable somi a staff. It was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was great, but it was very much like sit
Speaker 1: at the chef's counter watch them make this stuff. They'll
Speaker 1: tell you all about it. The next night, I had
Speaker 1: what I think is still my favorite meal I've ever
Speaker 1: had in my life, and it was at this pub
Speaker 1: called spiden Now it was at this pub called Spidal
Speaker 1: Fields in Dublin as well, just down the road from
Speaker 1: Delar Street. And we got the kakaaliki pie I think
Speaker 1: I talked about it before, and the beef cheek and
Speaker 1: oxtail stuffed rolls basically Parker House rolls stuffed with red
Speaker 1: meat and just like baked. And then of course I
Speaker 1: had a few guinnesses and it was one of the
Speaker 1: best meals of my life.
Speaker 2: The gimmick that all of their food sounds dirty and
Speaker 2: the stuff and chy. Yeah, shut the sausage in the
Speaker 2: rolls and I'll take one kkaiki please.
Speaker 1: I was horny when I got home. A manage and
Speaker 1: see it coming.
Speaker 4: Kill.
Speaker 1: She can hear me right now. It was really good.
Speaker 3: You can hear off Mike going.
Speaker 2: Door, shut feet going downstairs, car tires peeling out.
Speaker 1: I get serve papers from somebody. Those waits, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: does sound like a good wine list, Dan and Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Uh. I've got some travel coming up.
Speaker 1: It's pretty hectic schedule, but it's generally to places where
Speaker 1: I know to be good food. I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm going to Brazil for the first time
Speaker 2: in April, and so if anyone listening has Brazil recommendations,
Speaker 2: let me know. I'll be going there solo. Is it
Speaker 2: for BGS? Game's gone lam?
Speaker 1: Oh gotcha?
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, and go check that out.
Speaker 1: And there's red meat in Brazil. Do a lot of vegetables.
Speaker 2: That's a shame. Yeah, yeah, I remember the Brazilian steakhous
Speaker 2: we went to and there's just no meat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no meat.
Speaker 1: And like shish kababs with specifically much Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 3: Brazilian steakhouse? Really what it is? Or is it like
Speaker 3: going to outback steakhouse where it's like we just decorated
Speaker 3: this as if it is Australia.
Speaker 1: Like as much as I love that, like much as
Speaker 1: I love fog at the show, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: indicative of Brazil proper.
Speaker 2: It's just it's good though.
Speaker 1: Oh I'll crush it. I love it, But like yeah.
Speaker 2: I never liked that argument. It was taco bell is
Speaker 2: not real Mexican. I fucking know, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Like taco Bell, I don't think it's authentic.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I didn't like wake up like
Speaker 1: those nights or those days during GDC in the past
Speaker 1: and say I would love an authentic Brazilian experience, And
Speaker 1: I am like, I just want to go somewhere where
Speaker 1: they have a giant hunk of meat they're gonna shave
Speaker 1: on my plate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bring a sort of meat and say tell us
Speaker 2: when you're done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I think it is kind of the
Speaker 1: outback of Brazil.
Speaker 3: And you walk around if you have a little green
Speaker 3: shirt on, people just keep feeding you while you're walking around.
Speaker 3: You to change into your red shirt so that they
Speaker 3: leave you alone.
Speaker 2: I like the idea of doing it that way.
Speaker 1: Is that a thing they do? You have the coaster thing?
Speaker 2: The coaster for lipping it over, Like, is like I
Speaker 2: stop throwing well.
Speaker 3: Mike, who's uncultured? Now?
Speaker 1: You put on.
Speaker 2: That would be great for the actual walking down the
Speaker 2: street experience in Brazil. I get it. Yes, Yes, it's hot,
Speaker 2: it'll cald you, it's dangerous.
Speaker 1: Just dodging me story in my life.
Speaker 3: I feel like we all have a lot of travel
Speaker 3: coming up. I'm okay for a little bit, but uh,
Speaker 3: I think it's going to pick up in March because
Speaker 3: I think there is a packs No, yeah right.
Speaker 2: I'll be there, Yes, Tex East Boston. Yes, yeah, one
Speaker 2: near anniversary of a GB going independent.
Speaker 3: That's a big deal for you, isn't it? Going back?
Speaker 3: Because that was very stressful speaking of uncut gems, every
Speaker 3: Giant Bomb member at Pasia's last year was like watching
Speaker 3: someone having a heart attack. They were all on their
Speaker 3: phones all the time. Everyone was sweaty and upset, and it.
Speaker 2: Was doing like docu signs that day.
Speaker 3: It was a crazy experience. Nobody really knew if it
Speaker 3: was going to be okay or not. That was the truth.
Speaker 2: Fucking every single person. They're understandably sees you walking on
Speaker 2: the show floor and they're coming up with like condolences
Speaker 2: because there was some negative Giant Bomb news in just
Speaker 2: the days prior. Hey, really, sorry, what's going on. I
Speaker 2: just had to be like, ah, hey, come to the panel,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like trying to work on your cry face
Speaker 3: when you're smiling. Yeah, it is hard. Mike, are you
Speaker 3: crying or laughing? Are you where's sad?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like to know day he's worried?
Speaker 2: Actually it'd be great.
Speaker 1: I cry morning in the shower, and she tends to
Speaker 1: get worried like that. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to wonder if Boss is an asshole
Speaker 2: my cat, because I know I think he's not an asshole.
Speaker 2: I think he's just shy. But like you know, we
Speaker 2: go to Aruba and the hotel had these cats that
Speaker 2: just like walk around, you know, they're just like hotel cats,
Speaker 2: and they just kind of like go outside like the
Speaker 2: pool area, they walk around, they just sleep in chairs.
Speaker 2: They're super chill, and like you can just walk by him,
Speaker 2: they'll start yelling at you and like lay down and
Speaker 2: like you know, taking pets and stuff like that. And
Speaker 2: Boss is so like stand offish, and we'll just kind
Speaker 2: of like, oh, if he's in the mood, yeah, you
Speaker 2: can maybe come up and pet him for a little bit,
Speaker 2: but he'll probably run away. If we have guests over,
Speaker 2: he's always hiding ountder the bed and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: If you look at Boss, he usually like stoffs and
Speaker 3: walks away.
Speaker 1: He was he was giving it up for me when
Speaker 1: I was there. But yeah, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: those cats, I will say, are also probably friendly with
Speaker 1: people because people feed them. Oh but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: like we've been to several places in like Santimillion and
Speaker 1: uh where else have we been where the cats are
Speaker 1: extremely friendly? Yeah, just generally those very old quiet towns
Speaker 1: in France where nothing crazy has happened for hundreds of years.
Speaker 1: If that, I think they're just it's a common place
Speaker 1: where people feed them. They kind of just live out.
Speaker 1: It's pretty temperate weather all year, so they don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about a lot of stress really fending for
Speaker 1: their lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there are roosters running around too, And you
Speaker 2: know you're growing up watching cartoons and stuff, you think
Speaker 2: they they do the cock of doodle do once when
Speaker 2: the sun rises and then that's it for the day.
Speaker 2: Turns out just all fucking day cocka doodle do in
Speaker 2: the day away and looking it up and it's just like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's not a stirting dominance. So there's just
Speaker 2: this one fucking rooster walking around the hotel every day.
Speaker 3: Am.
Speaker 1: He's like a church bells. I liked in Key West
Speaker 1: as well. I'll be back in Key West in a
Speaker 1: few weeks, which I'm excited for because I like it
Speaker 1: down there. But yeah, no, there's there's just like a
Speaker 1: fucking herd of them that walk around outside screaming first
Speaker 1: thing in the morning, but then yeah, by like three
Speaker 1: pm it usually trails off to one or two of
Speaker 1: them that are still horny or whatever they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a horny dominance thing. Yeah, there's just like
Speaker 2: roving packs of dogs too, which, like you know, we
Speaker 2: would walk we were kind of staying in like a
Speaker 2: central island area, but you could walk to the downtown.
Speaker 2: It's like a twenty minute walk and it's like everything
Speaker 2: room is a very safe island. But it's like I did,
Speaker 2: it could be paused a couple times where it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's just a pack of six or seven not small
Speaker 2: dogs and they are barking and running up to people
Speaker 2: and stuff like God, are we just gonna get mauled
Speaker 2: by dogs?
Speaker 1: And this like relaxing vacation that that would be terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like it's that. I wonder should I have
Speaker 2: been scared by that? It seemed it seemed like a
Speaker 2: scary situation.
Speaker 3: It's it is like a slight risk. I will always
Speaker 3: like as a dog lover, will always be like no,
Speaker 3: but like dogs have no owner like.
Speaker 1: That in collars, feral pups some of them.
Speaker 3: Some of them are probably like just random running around pups.
Speaker 2: Some they had collars though, but yeah, they were just
Speaker 2: running around.
Speaker 3: You can take a little snip of you, so you
Speaker 3: have to have a little caution with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure they might not be up to date with
Speaker 1: their shots.
Speaker 3: I bet you. There's an app on your phone that
Speaker 3: has like the whistle tone that dogs don't like, and
Speaker 3: you could probably play it on your phone in case
Speaker 3: you get scared and they'd get like they'd run away.
Speaker 1: It has the adverse effect that just pisses them off
Speaker 1: and they moll you more quickly.
Speaker 2: No, it just makes them super horny.
Speaker 3: It's just an app that goes here.
Speaker 1: Boy, I would pay so much money to watch a
Speaker 1: horny pack of dogs just chase Dan around a room buff.
Speaker 2: For an sprinting and sweating with dogs chasing me.
Speaker 1: Of home alone.
Speaker 2: No, that didn't happen like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Mary, what have you been up to?
Speaker 3: I've been working a lot on some work trips that
Speaker 3: we have coming up. I wish I like I think
Speaker 3: I went out to dinner too, and I think of
Speaker 3: like if I had any cool stories of fancy things
Speaker 3: that I've done, but I haven't really traveled. But I
Speaker 3: did go to a Thai restaurant and I was excited
Speaker 3: because it feels like it's like one of those more authentic,
Speaker 3: like really nice Thai restaurants. And they had they had
Speaker 3: like a what do you call it? They had an
Speaker 3: alcoholic drink and it was called a Roselle slushy and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that sounds good, like a slushy
Speaker 3: that tastes like rose rose or something. Anyway, I got
Speaker 3: it and it didn't taste like rose at all. And
Speaker 3: so I always get nervous doing this because I don't
Speaker 3: want to ever complain. But I was like, maybe this
Speaker 3: is somebody else his drink because it doesn't taste like
Speaker 3: rose at all. And so I flagged down the waiter
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, I'm so sorry. I just want
Speaker 3: to make sure that this is supposed to be my
Speaker 3: drink because I ordered the Roselle and it's pretty fruity.
Speaker 3: And he said he leaned in he goes, Roselle is
Speaker 3: tie for hibiscus, and then he walked away, and I went, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm a dumb shit, and I.
Speaker 1: Like white white Godzilla strikes again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I had like my little straw and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, it was very good. But I realized, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about this place, and I need
Speaker 3: to stop complaining or asking questions. I wasn't trying to complain,
Speaker 3: but obviously it came across like I was.
Speaker 1: And you're only gonna call it roselle from now on
Speaker 1: when you get hibs.
Speaker 3: I think the next time somebody has a drink that
Speaker 3: has hibiscus in it, I'm going to lean in and
Speaker 3: go in tie it's called roselle, and I'm gonna sound
Speaker 3: really smart.
Speaker 2: And you should complain to the waiter when it's called
Speaker 2: hibiscus that it doesn't taste rose.
Speaker 3: They're going to turn around and it's gonna be that
Speaker 3: same waiter. He's gonna be like, you, stupid, ignorant lady.
Speaker 1: I remember that game came out on Switch and everybody
Speaker 1: was correct in each one another is like, it's could
Speaker 1: pronounce grease. It's Spanish for gray.
Speaker 2: I do remember that.
Speaker 1: Ye remember that was happening. One specific person did it.
Speaker 1: It wasn't actually multiple people.
Speaker 3: I remember when I had my trip to Bartholona.
Speaker 1: Living in Bartholona, I said my third my third stag
Speaker 1: and Ibitha. It was wonderful. Had some had some cores, lattes,
Speaker 1: had some VODs. But yeah, no, it's uh. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: going back to places I've been. I'm doing Stockholm, Paris,
Speaker 1: Key West is for leisure, and then there's one more,
Speaker 1: oh l A.
Speaker 3: So are they all connected or do you go home?
Speaker 1: Key West and Paris are connected, but the other two
Speaker 1: are breaks in between. I'm excited for the breaks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Stockholm again. I think we have
Speaker 1: a few listeners in Stockholm. I liked it a lot.
Speaker 1: I went there like almost exactly two years ago and
Speaker 1: loved it even this time of year.
Speaker 3: It's been a minute. My dad got me a cool gift.
Speaker 3: He got me a cork board globe with pins so
Speaker 3: that I could put pins in all of the places
Speaker 3: that I visited. I thought it was actually quite thoughtful,
Speaker 3: and I spent last night putting pins in different different
Speaker 3: countries and different cities that I've visited. I'll go downstairs
Speaker 3: and get if you guys want to see, because actually
Speaker 3: think it's a cool shot.
Speaker 2: I think that's really cool. I think I'm going to
Speaker 2: buy one because I've always loved globes and maps and everything,
Speaker 2: and that's a fun kind of like personalization on that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very personal to put the pin in. But
Speaker 3: I also recognized I was testing myself a little bit
Speaker 3: because anytime I was like, oh, yeah, I'd been to Majorca,
Speaker 3: I was like, where the fuck is that? I'm like
Speaker 3: looking for it because it's an island, it's very small,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know where this is.
Speaker 3: And I was like embarrassing myself, said like having get
Speaker 3: my like Google map out to be like, where are
Speaker 3: all these places that I've traveled to? It's I can
Speaker 3: put my little pin in them and and be proud
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: I like that, I'm gonna buy one tonight. That sounds great.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a neat gift, but I will.
Speaker 3: I think it is a stark reminder that my geography
Speaker 3: is not good. I have put all of my points
Speaker 3: and other things I have put them into, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: leisurely chats with the friends and bowling and gaming and
Speaker 3: all of these others. Being an excellent person on planes
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so good on a plane, but
Speaker 3: I cannot remember specifically where cities are in a country ever.
Speaker 3: And so someone was like, you were in can I'd
Speaker 3: be like yes, They'd be like, now where is that,
Speaker 3: and I'd be like south, And that's it. That's all
Speaker 3: I can tell you.
Speaker 2: I wonder if, like, cause, like there are certain things
Speaker 2: like with memory and things like that that I'm extremely
Speaker 2: good at, like spelling we've talked about for and like
Speaker 2: I also like with states and state outlines and even
Speaker 2: like you know, remembering capitals and stuff like that. It's
Speaker 2: been a while since I thought of that, but like,
Speaker 2: you know, I could easily if I could draw a
Speaker 2: map of the US and get all the states exactly
Speaker 2: right as far as like where they are and everything,
Speaker 2: so like that. I don't know if that's just like
Speaker 2: a photographic memory thing, because like remembering details of things
Speaker 2: or like have me describe the events of a movie
Speaker 2: I saw two weeks ago, and I probably won't be
Speaker 2: able to remember, but I could draw the map pretty
Speaker 2: accurately right now. I think that's a word.
Speaker 3: You know, It's a great skill to have, and I'm
Speaker 3: a little embarrassed that even when I was doing the
Speaker 3: United States. I was like, well, I've been to Detroit,
Speaker 3: and I know Michigan it looks like a glove. But
Speaker 3: then I was like, where's Detroit? And I like had
Speaker 3: to think about it, and like, I it's embarrassing that
Speaker 3: I don't remember specifically where Detroit is in Michigan on
Speaker 3: a map. I didn't know exactly where Chicago was in Illinois,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I knew which state
Speaker 3: it was, but I couldn't remember where in the state
Speaker 3: it was. Do you think you could do that without
Speaker 3: looking it up.
Speaker 1: The city stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think most big ones. I mean definitely all
Speaker 2: the state placements, but I think most cities.
Speaker 3: Detroit on the the glove.
Speaker 2: Detro it's on the west part of the gloved borders
Speaker 2: the one of the Great Lakes that Erie or is
Speaker 2: that Detrot's like on the lake right, the Great Lake.
Speaker 1: When you say left, you mean the Upper Peninsula west?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, on the on the Mitten. It's on
Speaker 2: the Mitten.
Speaker 1: It's on the Yeah, it's on the main.
Speaker 2: It's on the west side of the Mitten right like
Speaker 2: kind of lower lower West.
Speaker 1: It's on Lake Michigan, isn't it.
Speaker 2: That would makes sense. Yeah, am I totally off?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think you're right. It's on or is it
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely on the lower peninsula, but I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember if it's west or east west side.
Speaker 2: There's like big ones that you know California obviously, like
Speaker 2: San Francisco is up there, La is down there, and
Speaker 2: you got San Diego further down by the Mexico border.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know Detroit it's on the thumb.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, lower west, Yeah, the tracks right, No, it's
Speaker 1: lower east the east this way it's closer to like.
Speaker 2: The video listeners are getting a trade right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also not even Oh, it's more on Lake Huron.
Speaker 3: I know, I see. And I was like, uh, my
Speaker 3: family is from Niagara Falls or the Buffalo area, and
Speaker 3: I've been to Niagara Falls more times as a child,
Speaker 3: like that was where we went. And I was like,
Speaker 3: now where are these? Where is this? And I was like,
Speaker 3: that's embarrassing. You should know exactly where Buffalo is. You
Speaker 3: fucking grew up there, like what you been there?
Speaker 1: That would be like, yeah, Detroit, is it not on
Speaker 1: Lake Michigan whatsoever? It's on part of Lake Erie Lake
Speaker 1: Saint Clair.
Speaker 2: With Chicago on Lake Michigan. Like the actual like placement
Speaker 2: of the Great Lakes and whether Heuron Erie, Michigan.
Speaker 1: Ontario and Superior, Okay and lakes is so misleading. Have
Speaker 1: you guys ever like spent time on them.
Speaker 2: Like you see the other side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's what was the I was looking at
Speaker 1: a stat it was like, mathematically, if you took every
Speaker 1: single person on Earth and put them shoulder to shoulder
Speaker 1: in Lake Superior, you still would not fill.
Speaker 2: It' that's not like you got to come up with
Speaker 2: a new word for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's many ocean.
Speaker 2: There's ocean, there's sea. I think that's the sea is
Speaker 2: basically many ocean, right, and then you got to just
Speaker 2: call the Great Lakes the Great seas. Yeah, they're probably
Speaker 2: bigger than most seas, right.
Speaker 1: That weaves, they're bigger than many seas. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: they're huge. They're also it's not the if you're looking
Speaker 1: at like most world maps, what determines what.
Speaker 3: The lake is? Is it who finds it?
Speaker 2: Fresh water?
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's completely enclosed fresh water.
Speaker 2: Or seas or saltwater, I assume, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, see these are the things that I think
Speaker 3: of when I look at my cork globe and realize
Speaker 3: that I am.
Speaker 1: But then you got bays and harbor's like harbor's I know,
Speaker 1: is an actual harbor is more an indication of its
Speaker 1: economic purpose than it's actually Sure, I.
Speaker 2: Got the type thing. Here's a dumb question I've never
Speaker 2: thought of before. Okay, seas, lakes, oceans, like all that stuff.
Speaker 2: They're all bodies of water. Obviously, oceans much much bigger.
Speaker 2: Now are you saying that are seas always salt water?
Speaker 2: I believe so, but I could be very wrong. Okay,
Speaker 2: so a sea is like a big ass lake. So
Speaker 2: what is the thing initially when it was formed that
Speaker 2: makes one of them continue to be salt water and
Speaker 2: other ones continue to not? Like why does Lake Michigan
Speaker 2: have fresh water in it? And like what's the famous
Speaker 2: like the Red Sea has salt and it just stays
Speaker 2: that way? Or how is it because the way.
Speaker 1: They were seas? So I think crucially, seas are always
Speaker 1: connected to the ocean. That's where the salt comes from.
Speaker 1: They are connected, yes, Oh, like if you look at
Speaker 1: the Sea of Japan, it's technically part of the Pacific
Speaker 1: Ocean that like, or if you look at this the
Speaker 1: red sea like lakes. Also, like if the finger Lakes specifically,
Speaker 1: I know we're not talking about the Finger Lake. We're
Speaker 1: talking about the gret Lakes. But finger lakes are glacial
Speaker 1: cavities which I believe like happened during massive floods like
Speaker 1: the Missourian flood, Missoula floodback millions of years ago, that
Speaker 1: like basically created all the lakes in Minneapolis and the
Speaker 1: north the Midwestern United States, and like a lot of
Speaker 1: the freshwater came from those. But I believe seas are
Speaker 1: always connected to the ocean, hence the salt.
Speaker 2: Then why isn't okay, the Mississippi River is connected to
Speaker 2: the ocean. Why is that not salt?
Speaker 1: It flows into the ocean, doesn't come from the ocean.
Speaker 1: So okay, going out Missisipi River? Where's that up coming from? Which?
Speaker 1: Which great lake is it? Isn't it starting?
Speaker 2: A great lake started? I'm looking at it goes way
Speaker 2: up thirty five here? Uh is this it?
Speaker 3: Do you want me to get my.
Speaker 2: Globe Google maps? Where the fuck does it goes all
Speaker 2: the way up to Minneapolis? And then where the fuck
Speaker 2: does it go Mississippi River? Okay, it's keep going up,
Speaker 2: is going all the way to Canada. The big fucking river.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's most of that gets its water, Dan,
Speaker 1: Get this. It gets its water from its headwaters at
Speaker 1: Lake at Tasca in Minnesota, fed by springs, lakes and rainfall,
Speaker 1: and then collects water in your water dam So down.
Speaker 2: In Kansas City, when I were down by Saint Louis
Speaker 2: where the Mississippi River goes through, that's Minnesota lake water.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: Uh in large part you have, but also rainfall and springs,
Speaker 1: like underground springs, et cetera.
Speaker 3: At Sweet Sweet Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Blue you're just swimming up.
Speaker 2: There are so many things that just happen every day
Speaker 2: that you just never think about, and then you hear
Speaker 2: what they come from, and that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I like not to bring it back to wine again,
Speaker 1: but honestly, studying wine, I'm looking at maps most of
Speaker 1: the time. I'm reading about shit like how certain like
Speaker 1: countries formed from some like some tectonic collision that happened
Speaker 1: millions of years ago, and that like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the Jurassic Period starts to make more sense because it
Speaker 1: deposited certain soil types and like half of the my
Speaker 1: wine studying is maps and like of different sorts like
Speaker 1: soil maps or rainfall patterns.
Speaker 2: This shit is crazy. I'm looking at Lake of Tasca
Speaker 2: now and it is not a large lake, not even
Speaker 2: by like Minnesota standards. Really, how is this tiny ass
Speaker 2: little lake filling up a river that goes across the entire.
Speaker 3: Country gathering as it goes, ma'am?
Speaker 2: So it's not all starting.
Speaker 1: There's tributary is tributary streams? Oh okay, okay, like the
Speaker 1: headwaters is not all the water that just pours through
Speaker 1: like you're pouring it from a bottle. There's tributaries from
Speaker 1: other sources and springs and other connecting rivers and lakes.
Speaker 3: Tributary I'm into that.
Speaker 2: Yeahs a Rivet inlets, maybe.
Speaker 1: The tiny bay like tiny lagoon and inland you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: Rivet City and three right, yeah, held together metal.
Speaker 3: There's like an always sunny thing where he like points
Speaker 3: at the door and he's like, listen, we gotta watch
Speaker 3: out for that pirates.
Speaker 1: A pirate? Private?
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it the door that's says private? Is
Speaker 3: that the door you're thinking of?
Speaker 1: And then he tries to get in with his own apartment.
Speaker 1: Ke He's like I figured there was a shot. It's
Speaker 1: like a one in one hundred million.
Speaker 2: A lot of things are just really interesting once you
Speaker 2: learn how they happen. Yeah, man, I knew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but look while you're doing it, can you look up,
Speaker 1: like what constitutes the sea?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I believe they're all type of what constitutes a sea? Okay?
Speaker 2: Well the google a eye that pops up first is
Speaker 2: a large body of saltwater, typically smaller and shallower than
Speaker 2: an ocean, partially enclosed by land, and usually located with
Speaker 2: where the ocean meets land. While connected to the global ocean,
Speaker 2: they are often on the margins of continents, though some,
Speaker 2: like the Sargasso Sea, are defined by ocean currents. Partial enclosure,
Speaker 2: enclosure Yeah, okkay, brilliant. Yeah, what's your favorite sea? I
Speaker 2: don't have.
Speaker 1: Also, there are way more than seven. The pirate things
Speaker 1: were bullshit.
Speaker 2: No, pirates were dumbasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, who's the travel of the world and the
Speaker 1: seven seas? Well, you got like three hundred to go, Man,
Speaker 1: write another song when you get that any Lenox. Yeah, Annie,
Speaker 1: i've ever seen a sea's I've never seen I didn't
Speaker 1: see an ocean until I was like working a game
Speaker 1: informer you must have seen us.
Speaker 3: I agree. Growing up in the golf mostly in Ohio,
Speaker 3: I feel like I just didn't get to see a
Speaker 3: lot of ocean. Wasn't something I saw?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas certainly not. We don't want to go on
Speaker 2: family vacations or anything ever, so like I never saw shit.
Speaker 1: I guess New Orleans is sort of connected to the
Speaker 1: golf through the.
Speaker 2: Swamps New Orleans. I've definitely seen the golf. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that is connected.
Speaker 1: But uh see, I'm trying to think if I've seen this,
Speaker 1: I've seen the Sea of Japan. Actually, no, I would
Speaker 1: have seen I would have been on the harbor harbor, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is technically those are usually fresh water, Like New
Speaker 1: York Harbor is still fresh water until a certain point
Speaker 1: because the pressure from the east and the HUD center
Speaker 1: pushing down against the saltwater.
Speaker 2: Oh right, New Orleans is technically Lake Pontar Train that
Speaker 2: it borders, which is Mike, you'll know from Double seven
Speaker 2: everything or nothing, the motorcycle level that's the big across. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know that. Yeah, but that does connect to the Gulf.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: While on that notehography, do you want to talk about
Speaker 1: video games? Sure? Oh, God, you fucking so gross.
Speaker 2: That's the endpoint.
Speaker 1: I can't okay in on Mary's burp, speaking of we've
Speaker 1: all been playing Eugenics, Oh boy about it. Finally, Dan's
Speaker 1: played the most. Mary played quite a bit as well.
Speaker 1: I played the least. But uh, nonetheless, because you were talking,
Speaker 1: you sent us you had a screenshot on Instagram last night.
Speaker 1: I could just tell you were farther.
Speaker 3: Oh from my I've been trying to take screenshots when
Speaker 3: the game makes me laugh out loud. It's happened. It's
Speaker 3: happened a lot.
Speaker 2: The dumb cat thing that the dumber the cat is,
Speaker 2: the further he goes, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's called one d Chess. How funny is that? Like,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of funny connections in this game where
Speaker 3: you can tell that they had fun making this. They
Speaker 3: wanted you to laugh. I had I have wigs with
Speaker 3: lice in them, and the lice comes out of the
Speaker 3: wigs and attack.
Speaker 1: But before before I should lay a foundation, because this
Speaker 1: sounds like we should lay the foundation of what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on a surface, if you removed everything from the
Speaker 2: visuals and aesthetics and everything, it's just the most Mike
Speaker 2: Maharty ass game. Ever as far as like it is
Speaker 2: tiles and tactic.
Speaker 3: Scene, it's disgusting, it's absurd. I can't look away. It's
Speaker 3: Mike Maharty.
Speaker 2: I was thinking just the tactical stuff, but then there's
Speaker 2: all the Gros stuff on top. I that was the
Speaker 2: thing I had to get past. Is like I did
Speaker 2: not love the I don't love the humor, I don't
Speaker 2: love the tone. I don't love the art style necessarily,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like all this stuff that like like
Speaker 2: for instance, Binding Isaac, Like you know, I played that
Speaker 2: a couple times when it first came out. It was
Speaker 2: like I just don't really like the whole vibe of
Speaker 2: this game, you know, And this felt the same way.
Speaker 2: And then I started playing it and then I was like,
Speaker 2: oh fuck, I'm obsessed with this game. And it absolutely
Speaker 2: allowed me to see passed and like almost I almost
Speaker 2: it's like it's like a Stockholm Center everything, but like
Speaker 2: I find myself like, no, no, I'm fine with everything now.
Speaker 2: Like it's not like I'm like cracking up every time
Speaker 2: I see a cat anus or something, but like you know,
Speaker 2: it's I don't.
Speaker 3: But you didn't love it either, did you? Like you
Speaker 3: weren't like.
Speaker 2: It's inherently a gross game. Like there's a boss fight
Speaker 2: against like two basically like anuses on four legs that like.
Speaker 1: Really really really really we should mention this is a
Speaker 1: turn based tactical game for those who don't know, because
Speaker 1: not everybody knows. From Edmond McMillan and the team that
Speaker 1: made Super Meat Boy and you mentioned by Nick of Isaac,
Speaker 1: they working on this for like twelve years. Longer than that,
Speaker 1: there's twelve or so they started talking about, but they
Speaker 1: like scrapped a few things. So now it's as Dan
Speaker 1: pinged us in our discord a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, at this point we were just
Speaker 1: talking about wanting to talk about it. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like turn based tactics on tiles with cat breeding in
Speaker 1: between as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the like equivalent of going back to the
Speaker 2: Hub and Hades is like you go back to this
Speaker 2: house where you are, Like the metagame is building out
Speaker 2: the rooms of the house, buying furniture for the house.
Speaker 2: That can affect different stats of like the quality of
Speaker 2: the stray cats that show up, you know, the frequency
Speaker 2: of the breeding, the quality of the newborn kittens and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So like you're buying fish tanks and
Speaker 2: couches and beds and clocks and stuff to fill this out.
Speaker 2: And as you go later in the game, like I
Speaker 2: wonder if you guys have gotten this far, because like
Speaker 2: this is I'm fifty hours in. It says I'm like
Speaker 2: twenty percent of the way into the game.
Speaker 3: I can't believe that.
Speaker 2: And I'm just now getting this stuff like upgrades where
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, now you can see the entire family
Speaker 2: trees of every cat, meaning and with an icon even
Speaker 2: that says if they're inbred or not. So then you
Speaker 2: can start doing stuff like you can start literally just
Speaker 2: throw the inbred ones and the trash and donate them
Speaker 2: to these like vendors, or you can like take like yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like specifically, here's these two cats that are not
Speaker 2: in bread and this one has this possibility, this one
Speaker 2: has this stat or whatever, and you can you can
Speaker 2: put them in like the fuck room, the one that
Speaker 2: like you got out you put all the furniture in
Speaker 2: that like increases the like fucking and like so you
Speaker 2: can get way more deliberate with how you're kind of
Speaker 2: breeding the cats. So like I'm going to make the
Speaker 2: ultimate ranger here or cleric or something like that. There's
Speaker 2: different classes based on collars you put on them and stuff.
Speaker 2: But like it seems like I still feel like it's
Speaker 2: opening up for me fifty hours in.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy, Barry, you pointed out, I think
Speaker 1: like some reviewers were saying they played one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty for the review or something like that. Yeah, just crazy.
Speaker 3: I think it's like long teen and yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I'm about twenty five now. I I have enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: I feel the same way as you, Dan. I had
Speaker 3: to get over the visuals. I don't care for the
Speaker 3: like sex and birth in two seconds animation.
Speaker 1: Have you changed those?
Speaker 2: Have you seen that?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I have changed them to like family friendly, so they're
Speaker 2: both just like upside down and like rubbing their backs
Speaker 2: against each other like we're kind of funny.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I want to see it as it's intended. I want
Speaker 3: to see the vision just because I don't love it.
Speaker 3: That's what they made, and I think it's also it
Speaker 3: was hard for me to get over how disposable the
Speaker 3: cats are. So something that I was I learned quite
Speaker 3: early on in this game is that once you complete around,
Speaker 3: even if you're successful, the cats are retired and never
Speaker 3: go out again, and so you need to keep them
Speaker 3: in the house and have them do it or dispose
Speaker 3: of them as you said, But they don't go out
Speaker 3: on a second adventure.
Speaker 2: Well it's another thing. There is another thing that I like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much this stuff falls into spoiler
Speaker 2: Like this is like gameplay stuff, but obviously stuff that
Speaker 2: like unfolds later.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're worried about that. I don't like to
Speaker 1: hear it.
Speaker 2: Like in general, it's not as simple as once they
Speaker 2: go on a thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like
Speaker 2: and it's.
Speaker 3: For twenty five hours, which I would say is a
Speaker 3: long fucking time to play a game before you say,
Speaker 3: actually you don't know this game. And if I could
Speaker 3: just be a hater for two seconds, I don't really
Speaker 3: care for any game that takes fifty hours to open up.
Speaker 3: I don't think that that like is super fair for
Speaker 3: my time. And it's quite repetitive as well, for a
Speaker 3: game where you're like, you're gonna do the sewers, No,
Speaker 3: you do the first alley, then the sewers, then the caves,
Speaker 3: and so when they come back from this journey, I
Speaker 3: have to get a new round of cats and go
Speaker 3: back to the alley and start that process over again.
Speaker 3: And I had to do that a lot because if
Speaker 3: you die, you have to do it all over again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think generally my thought is I don't
Speaker 3: think this game is for me, but I don't hate
Speaker 3: this game. I have enjoyed it. It has made me laugh,
Speaker 3: it has made me I've enjoyed it. I've also found
Speaker 3: myself playing it and then been like, WHOA, that was
Speaker 3: five hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just sunk five hours into this game.
Speaker 2: Played it on the planes to and fro like flew By.
Speaker 2: It's like that this is actually an end like treadmill
Speaker 2: game too, because it's like it doesn't require any fast
Speaker 2: reflexes or anything like that, so that it's.
Speaker 3: Been amazing turn Base.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to argue something you said, Mary,
Speaker 2: because like I feel the exact same way about like
Speaker 2: I hate the like, oh, you just got to play
Speaker 2: it for this Assassin's Creed for twenty hours and then
Speaker 2: it gets good, Like I've always hated that shit. It's like,
Speaker 2: I want to enjoy a game. You know. If I'm
Speaker 2: going to put hours and hours in something, I better
Speaker 2: be enjoying some part of it. So like, even though
Speaker 2: I do say there are elements that open up in
Speaker 2: things twenty thirty forty hours in, I did enjoy this
Speaker 2: game from the beginning. So it's like I don't want
Speaker 2: people to think like, oh, you got to play it
Speaker 2: twenty hours before it gets good. No, it's good right away.
Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is there are these huge kind
Speaker 2: of signpost moments where it's like, oh, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2: It's just the unfolding of the unfeeling of the onion,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like it's just additive. I think. I
Speaker 2: think it is fun from the beginning and it just
Speaker 2: keeps giving you more and more. And I think that
Speaker 2: just like adds to the longevity of the game more
Speaker 2: than it's like you got to play a bunch before
Speaker 2: it's good.
Speaker 3: I will acknowledge I I did enjoy the hours that
Speaker 3: I've with this game. It hasn't been a twenty miserable hour.
Speaker 3: I just think that generally I am looking for a
Speaker 3: little bit more impact with my twenty hours. I would
Speaker 3: have liked to accomplish more. I would have liked to
Speaker 3: see more. I would have liked to build my house
Speaker 3: after twenty hours. That being said, I have enjoyed the
Speaker 3: battles that I have come across. I've enjoyed building up
Speaker 3: my cats and giving them crazy outfits, outrageous items that
Speaker 3: are also again funny, cheeky, silly, stupid as hell, and
Speaker 3: changed the gameplay dramatically. Every round has been very different,
Speaker 3: Every battle has been different because my cats are so unique,
Speaker 3: so it mixes it up a lot. So I don't
Speaker 3: dislike this game. I just have like a couple qualms
Speaker 3: with it because I'm already not a huge turn based
Speaker 3: game person, so this is something where I had to
Speaker 3: do a lot of adjusting for it.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah good, I was gonna say yeah, like fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes in. I'm very much in that holding pattern no
Speaker 1: pun intended. Before I am going to be on a
Speaker 1: bunch of flights that I'm kind of like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: could see this being great on my flights. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wait until I'm traveling and then I want to really
Speaker 1: dive in. I think my last save time I saw
Speaker 1: was like twelve thirteen hours something like that. So I
Speaker 1: really have not played much of this game. In the
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, I will say it's reminding me
Speaker 1: more of like Call to the Lamb, the cadence of
Speaker 1: that game where you come back and you do a
Speaker 1: lot of management stuff and not breeding. Really that's more
Speaker 1: about like religious stuff when you come back to base
Speaker 1: and then going out on those dungeon runs. The dungeon runs,
Speaker 1: and obviously we all know I love turn based stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting this game to be like full on
Speaker 1: Into the Breach or x COOM. I will say, so far,
Speaker 1: the turn based stuff has not been like all that
Speaker 1: complex yet. But from what Dan You've told me, like
Speaker 1: certain stuff, I think I want to get to the
Speaker 1: point where I feel like most of the complexities are
Speaker 1: going to come from the interplay between the breeding and
Speaker 1: the combat, because right now the combat itself is very
Speaker 1: boring to me. That doesn't mean I won't like that.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite games the last ten years is
Speaker 1: Wildermuth and the combat and Wildermth is not that it's
Speaker 1: it's nothing to write home about if you're a turn
Speaker 1: based tactics fan. However, seeing these characters who like these
Speaker 1: cats come back and they can't go out, they retire,
Speaker 1: but they pass on traits to the next generation, It's like,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty positive I'll love that once I start seeing
Speaker 1: it more, and also I've gotten past like the when
Speaker 1: you dispose of the cats and the like the mark
Speaker 1: to send them, just to send them down to the
Speaker 1: all the people living underground who want cats. I keep
Speaker 1: telling myself it's like, it's just like the dump it
Speaker 1: to Crumpet slide that goes up Mount Crumpet in the Grinch.
Speaker 1: The cats are not dying, they're going up there. And
Speaker 1: then also like.
Speaker 3: The ones that they get them, He's a real gem.
Speaker 1: In fights, and just one died overnight and like god.
Speaker 2: Damn it, dumping the car thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wish it was like frogs or something.
Speaker 1: I think we passed it earlier.
Speaker 2: On so weirds, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally just the fact that I know their cats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they look like butts or like fury. They look like
Speaker 1: bushes with like like pelvic bushes with cat legs coming
Speaker 1: out of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's strange. You can disassociate pretty easily that I
Speaker 3: have meant to be like disposable little trowels. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it is. It's a gross game. In general, you fight
Speaker 3: poop a lot, Like you were saying, they have enemies
Speaker 3: that are that have anuses for faces that are like
Speaker 3: squirting discharge when you hit them. It's fucking gross. And
Speaker 3: so like there's been a couple of times where I've
Speaker 3: had to be like, oh, like I don't know like
Speaker 3: about that. You know what, you constantly in your path
Speaker 3: because you have pathways where you fight, maybe you come
Speaker 3: across an object or an item, and so you accruise
Speaker 3: something and sometimes it's a choice. And I've had choice
Speaker 3: ones where it's like there's a gross pile of bones.
Speaker 3: Do you fight it, do you eat it? Or do
Speaker 3: you walk away? And I had like a high constitution,
Speaker 3: so I ate it and it was good, but I
Speaker 3: was eating bones of another cat. It was like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just kind of yuck. I had one of those
Speaker 3: Dan it was a hole and it just said, uh,
Speaker 3: this hole was meant for you. This hole is perfectly
Speaker 3: shaped like you do you enter the hole? Which is
Speaker 3: like a comic reference is the manga?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what was the I should know this? The
Speaker 1: writer's famous, the mong artist. But like, yeah, yeah, people
Speaker 1: wake up one day and there's just holes in walls
Speaker 1: and stuff shaped perfectly like each of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's so it's like it's like one of those
Speaker 3: little uh ging eto I don't know, I couldn't remember it.
Speaker 3: Uh they make references to all these like pup culture things. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I went into the hole and I fucking died. It
Speaker 3: killed me. It took my cat away and I never
Speaker 3: got it back. And then and then, like I want
Speaker 3: to say, three areas later, I found an alley cat
Speaker 3: and it joined my squad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with like low stats, you kind of build it out.
Speaker 3: It was a real piece of shit cat. And I
Speaker 3: like had my cats do it. And I got a
Speaker 3: cat this big. I got a like a dwarf cat.
Speaker 3: It was like a tiny little thimble of a cat,
Speaker 3: and its stats were one across the board. And then
Speaker 3: it had seventeen luck and it was just this complete,
Speaker 3: worthless little worm of a cat. But I kept getting
Speaker 3: good luck throughout my run. It's just like it's so random,
Speaker 3: I think, is what I'm saying. Is like I was
Speaker 3: amazed with the variants, the variance of items, the variants
Speaker 3: of types of cats, the variants of like what you
Speaker 3: can do with their classes and their cadence and there
Speaker 3: and the world that you got. I never had even
Speaker 3: a similar run, not once.
Speaker 2: So and that's the thing that I think excites me
Speaker 2: the most about this game is because because there are
Speaker 2: so many you know, passive inactive abilities and things like that,
Speaker 2: that you don't know what you're going to get. And
Speaker 2: twice now because I banks probably put as much time.
Speaker 2: So let's say together we put over one hundred hours
Speaker 2: into it. Man Bonk and I got one completely broken
Speaker 2: build and she got one, and both in a fun way.
Speaker 2: I say broken parentheses positive here, what do you mean broken? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So with Bonks, it was she had a passive called singularity,
Speaker 2: which makes it so everything is one, and so it's
Speaker 2: like you have one HP, you have one MANA, any
Speaker 2: damage you receive is one, like all these things are one.
Speaker 2: But then she also got an item that she equipped
Speaker 2: that made it so anytime you take one damage, it
Speaker 2: counts as zero damage. So the one thing made it
Speaker 2: soever all damage is one. The other one made it
Speaker 2: to all one damage is zero. She had an immortal
Speaker 2: cat like could not could not get hurt. So that's
Speaker 2: incredible funny.
Speaker 1: That's like mine philosophical thought experiment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and mine was just oh my god, it was
Speaker 2: just the most dominant build here where it's like I
Speaker 2: had a cleric that had this thing called Hallowed Ground
Speaker 2: where it would throw a blessing pickup that's a little
Speaker 2: like blue crucifix thing, And so normally you go over
Speaker 2: this thing and it gives you one shield that will
Speaker 2: basically absorb any amount of damage, so one hit, even
Speaker 2: if it's sixty damage, it's just going to be poo.
Speaker 2: That was just a shield. But then I had a
Speaker 2: passive that made anything that I pick up is shared
Speaker 2: among my entire team. So now suddenly I throw the shield,
Speaker 2: I pick it up, and my whole team has it.
Speaker 2: Now the bonus was I had a ranger that had
Speaker 2: a passive that made all of my trap effects and
Speaker 2: everything doubled. And one of my traps was a spider
Speaker 2: egg trap that would normally spawn four spiders when an
Speaker 2: enemy died, pretty decent, but with the double anytime I
Speaker 2: killed any enemy, I would get eight fucking spiders. And
Speaker 2: here's the real kicker, the clericx ability. It shares all
Speaker 2: pickups with the whole team. That counted all these fucking
Speaker 2: spiders and maggots and everything. So I would literally have
Speaker 2: like twenty two fucking things on my team, and every
Speaker 2: time I pick up like this invincible crucifix thing. They
Speaker 2: all get it. So every single match to every boss
Speaker 2: is just like it's just filled with all these fucking
Speaker 2: spiders that are basically invincible, and I was just annihilating everything.
Speaker 2: It just felt so broken. But like, if that was
Speaker 2: every round, that would suck, that would feel broken in
Speaker 2: a bad way. But when you just like it clicks
Speaker 2: together and you realize what you've got, it's a moment like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is going to be the best run ever.
Speaker 3: And once you finish the rounds and it's like okay, well,
Speaker 3: then you know you got to come up with something new.
Speaker 3: At least for me. Right now, I had a really
Speaker 3: strong hand. I just had I had a really good
Speaker 3: healer and a really good damage dealer, and they were unstoppable.
Speaker 3: And so I went through the whole area, all the
Speaker 3: way through like the caves and everything, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm a genius. But then when they get home, it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, well now I have to find a new build,
Speaker 3: and so I'm just constantly pulling. I'm pushing myself as
Speaker 3: a gamer to find the best way to combine items
Speaker 3: and builds as opposed to just being like, well, I
Speaker 3: know what system works for me. It's it makes me
Speaker 3: get out of my comfort zone and be like, I
Speaker 3: guess I need to try the thief in this one.
Speaker 2: I don't like the thief at all. Have you got
Speaker 2: any classes past that?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think I've unlocked any more classes
Speaker 3: I have, Like, I think it's the original ones, right,
Speaker 3: It's like I think there's.
Speaker 2: Tank, bunk Age, Ranger, cleric, Fighter, and then there's Thief,
Speaker 2: an original one Thief.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either I unlocked it.
Speaker 2: Or early on, but yeah, and then there's yeah, but
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: There's twelve classes. But it's it's the amount of items
Speaker 3: and upgrades that make things like so variable ultimately that
Speaker 3: I think is like such a game changer. I've had
Speaker 3: really interesting items that I think are are funny and unique.
Speaker 3: I got one that was, uh, poison, and it poisons
Speaker 3: everything on the map no matter what you know, friend
Speaker 3: and ally and and villain, and so if there's a
Speaker 3: shits in a stuff on the map, I just use
Speaker 3: the I just use it. I just equip it, and
Speaker 3: then I try and heal myself and make sure that
Speaker 3: I don't have poison. But then it's poisoning everybody else.
Speaker 3: The entire map, and I think that's kind of cheeky
Speaker 3: to be able to do that, but you can't save
Speaker 3: some because the game yells at.
Speaker 2: You catch mister Rossetti. They even like reference mister Rossetti specifically. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of love that everything feels like it's got
Speaker 2: consequences and stuff. Like I've had things where it's like
Speaker 2: I have a dream like cat build and then like
Speaker 2: it goes into one of those things where it's like,
Speaker 2: here's a gross hole. Do you want to fuck it?
Speaker 2: And like I guess, and then it's like, well, now
Speaker 2: you have a fucking thing where you just attack yourself
Speaker 2: seventy five percent of the time you attack, It's like,
Speaker 2: what fuck? I just ruined my cat to try to
Speaker 2: fuck a hole.
Speaker 3: Well, let that be a lesson to you.
Speaker 2: I know, I will say and I won't say specifics,
Speaker 2: but I will say the thing with like, oh, your
Speaker 2: cat's done at the end. There is just stuff that
Speaker 2: unlocks where it's like there are reasons where you would
Speaker 2: want to have, like when you have different rooms and
Speaker 2: stuff like let's say I've got a room that is
Speaker 2: just like here's all Stars, here's the all Stars that
Speaker 2: like went on a successful run and I love their
Speaker 2: passives and stuff. I'm gonna and I'm gonna have a
Speaker 2: use for four of them.
Speaker 3: Later and all my losers go into the hole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all just die.
Speaker 3: Yeah, brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to keep playing more of that because, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it is the like if this then that
Speaker 1: logic that seems really compelling to toy with with the
Speaker 1: items and the different cat accommodations, And I understand they're
Speaker 1: not trying to make it the best turn based tactic
Speaker 1: game on the map itself. That's not what this game
Speaker 1: is about. So I want to keep playing that. So
Speaker 1: I'm not digging it for that. I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: I think I went in expecting it to be like
Speaker 1: into the breach right away, which.
Speaker 2: It's a bit different. I mean that's more like, yes,
Speaker 2: you know, for sure it's into the.
Speaker 3: Breach if they were like fucking and sucking the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then like they were fighting dicks that were coming
Speaker 3: out of butts.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's weird because it's like we do
Speaker 2: gross out humor and stuff. You're like, we're not we're
Speaker 2: not above gross out here.
Speaker 3: Yeah we are gross, but there's.
Speaker 2: Something about this type or it just kind of feels
Speaker 2: like there's not even a joke or cleverness behind anything.
Speaker 2: It's just like what if this thing was like a
Speaker 2: bloody asshole and it's like that's I don't want bad.
Speaker 3: I don't fight a bloody asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like great.
Speaker 3: I think it's a bit exhaust.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's not my fit, but like, I guess that
Speaker 2: is a way to like add variance to a bunch
Speaker 2: of different things where it's like, oh, these it's about
Speaker 2: mutations and birth defects, like that's a big part of
Speaker 2: what happens to these units. So like I guess that's
Speaker 2: one way you could do it. No, this guy's assholes bloody.
Speaker 1: And I got over Binding of Isaac's asthetic and humor,
Speaker 1: and I absolutely love that game over the years that
Speaker 1: they had been updating it, so like I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: above moving past it. I'm getting there, but I really
Speaker 1: do kind of just want to save it for flights now.
Speaker 2: Now let me ask you, I'm loving this and I
Speaker 2: know it's a different genre, but like when Binding of
Speaker 2: Isaac came out, that's when I learned what a roguelight
Speaker 2: was because I remember I played it a Game Informer
Speaker 2: and I was like, I died and I back to
Speaker 2: the beginning. I was like, what the fuck is this shit?
Speaker 2: And I think it was our PC out of the
Speaker 2: Adam Bistner told me it's like, oh, it's a rogue
Speaker 2: light and it's like, what the fuck is that? And
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, yeah, you die and you restart a
Speaker 2: running and you have to start over every time. It's
Speaker 2: like that sounds fucking stupid, and I just like never
Speaker 2: tried it again, and then I wound up. Rogue lights
Speaker 2: are like maybe my favorite genre. Would it be worth
Speaker 2: going back or has like the genre moved so far
Speaker 2: beyond that.
Speaker 1: To Binding of Isaac. Yeah, yeah, oh they've still very
Speaker 1: They've tweaked it so much. It had like six thousand
Speaker 1: concurrent players at some point, like they've they've worked they
Speaker 1: had worked on it so much throughout the years, it's
Speaker 1: going to be unrecognizable. I didn't like it when I
Speaker 1: first played in two thousand and ten or whatever it
Speaker 1: was twenty twelve, Like I think since they made this
Speaker 1: because it's a super meat boy than that and then this, right.
Speaker 2: I uh, there's something in between. There was like the
Speaker 2: end of the World and is nigh or something.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, Binding of Isaac is still it reminds
Speaker 1: me of like Enter the Gungeon now, that kind of
Speaker 1: format of rogue Light dungeon crawler. Yeah, it'd be worth
Speaker 1: checking out. I still enjoy it. Okay.
Speaker 3: People say it's kind of like this in the sense
Speaker 3: that you can easily play one hundred hours of it,
Speaker 3: like it's been it's built to pour time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the biggest fan I know is like
Speaker 1: Russ fresh Stick and his other his favorite game is
Speaker 1: like Spelunky. I think it's more like Spelunky, like with
Speaker 1: a few more rogue Light permanent upgrades between runs.
Speaker 2: Which one has more bloody assholes?
Speaker 1: Mugenics for sure. Yeah, yeah, No, Binding Isaac is all
Speaker 1: like pregnancy and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And again I put that in the kind of the
Speaker 2: same category of like a lot of it just seems like,
Speaker 2: is it fucked up that we did? This enemy is
Speaker 2: an abortion with the fucking rifle, and it's like, I
Speaker 2: don't you know that does nothing for me?
Speaker 1: What's that that happened in Mugenics?
Speaker 2: No, I feel like everything I started Binding Isaac is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this boss is just like stabbing her pussy.
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, that's like I don't like this. I
Speaker 1: don't either.
Speaker 3: That's such a gross sound bite.
Speaker 2: It's like I love Rent and Stimpy because it was
Speaker 2: almost like an innoc grossness to it, and like all
Speaker 2: like this just seems so aggressive, like the binding of lies.
Speaker 3: Children's gross stuff, and y'ere old, Like we we had
Speaker 3: our time when with a close up Run and Stimpy
Speaker 3: things were vile. They were disgusting, sinky tooth or something,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, and as kids we were like, hey,
Speaker 3: I can't believe they're getting this close up of this
Speaker 3: pample and uh, SpongeBob did it too.
Speaker 2: Like I find out now kids can't see Jaws. Tell
Speaker 2: they're fucking twenty If you're Jeff Backlar.
Speaker 1: He's not letting, he's not lettings DC Jaws like twenty hockey.
Speaker 2: Jock Son isn't allowed to watch Jaws because it would
Speaker 2: be too the PG movie Jaws that everyone sees when
Speaker 2: they're five.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's just because he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be afraid of swimming in lakes and the ocean.
Speaker 2: That's to say, like, yeah, if you can't watch Jaws,
Speaker 2: they're certainly not playing these guys.
Speaker 3: Not Porky's Revenge when I was twelve.
Speaker 1: We're normal, healthy people. I saw three when I was seven.
Speaker 1: That's actually a real thing. I'm not getting well, normal man,
Speaker 1: real DVD. I came with my friend bought something else
Speaker 1: and I came with that. What else are you playing?
Speaker 3: Da Are you okay?
Speaker 2: We're all doing great? He's taking it. I'm playing Mario
Speaker 2: Tennis or I was. I don't know, I'll play it.
Speaker 1: I'm just said end of the Wholesome versus Disgusting.
Speaker 2: The first part of the story mode is Daisy is
Speaker 2: on her fucking deathbed. Like the Mario Tennis story. Mode
Speaker 2: starts with Daisy laying in bed and it's like she's been.
Speaker 1: She's poop as well.
Speaker 2: Well it's like, oh she's not getting any better, like
Speaker 2: she shows her it's like like clearly dying and there's
Speaker 2: like Donkey Kong talking to like Tennis. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm telling you, it's like the opening like
Speaker 2: picture is insane. It's just like all it's like everyone's
Speaker 2: concerned and the Princess Daisy's hospital room. And then it's
Speaker 2: fucking incredible because Warrio and WALLAWEGI like bust into her
Speaker 2: hospital room and the exact quote is one of them.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say who says she doesn't look.
Speaker 1: Good at all.
Speaker 3: And then Private Hill, Ye, they're.
Speaker 2: Gonna profit off of Princess Daisy dying because they're like,
Speaker 2: you know what will cure her. There's some caves and
Speaker 2: there's a golden fruit in there, and this golden apple
Speaker 2: is gonna cure her. But they actually like, man, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get rich off this gold apple. Uh, and Daisy's
Speaker 2: fucking dead. Who cares?
Speaker 1: Like that's the setup.
Speaker 2: But then they go to the caves and get attacked
Speaker 2: by monsters and they get beat up so bad they
Speaker 2: turn into babies, and then they suck at tennis. So
Speaker 2: then you got to go to tennis school?
Speaker 1: Are interesting? Yeah, you go to tennis. Like many after
Speaker 1: you go to tennis school, what why do you continue
Speaker 1: to play tennis?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like the first couple of hours,
Speaker 2: it's just going around academy and like toad teachers asking
Speaker 2: you about slice shots and uh. Then you go on
Speaker 2: an airship and and you got to fix the ship
Speaker 2: with tennis and it's just a fucking weird story mode
Speaker 2: and it sounds way more interesting than it is because
Speaker 2: it's like most of this is just kind of told
Speaker 2: through like very static, just almost like a visual novel
Speaker 2: type style, and then text and everything, and so it's
Speaker 2: just walking from thing to thing, and then it'll be like, hey,
Speaker 2: you should do this thing. That'll teach you. Like we're
Speaker 2: going to shoot a bunch of cacti at you and
Speaker 2: you've got to do a top spin to send them
Speaker 2: back and you do that seven times, and then you
Speaker 2: walk to the next thing and they're like, all right,
Speaker 2: well here hit a star shot on this to seven
Speaker 2: piranha plans and then you move on, like it's just
Speaker 2: like a list of shit you have to do.
Speaker 1: Follow up question, Yeah, is this game bad? That's the thing.
Speaker 2: It's not bad. Like when you're playing tennis, it's fine.
Speaker 2: It is like it feels good, but it's like it doesn't.
Speaker 1: All I want.
Speaker 2: It doesn't noticeably better than like Mario Tennis sixty four
Speaker 2: that you can play on Switch online, I mean.
Speaker 1: Which still felt great last time we played it in December. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, it's like when you're just playing tennis, it's a
Speaker 2: gay I like that I'm playing this. There's some stuff
Speaker 2: I don't leve where it's like I have never once
Speaker 2: been able to hit the ball out of bounce, and
Speaker 2: like that is part of the kind of risk reward
Speaker 2: thing of tennis games. It's like, well, I want to
Speaker 2: hit hard and fast close to the line, but I
Speaker 2: don't want to knock it out. And this one it
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like there's that risk. I mean, you can
Speaker 2: just crank the analog stick all the way and it's
Speaker 2: not gonna go out of bound, so it is pretty
Speaker 2: safe in that way. It does introduce these new beaver rackets.
Speaker 3: That's the princess is dead.
Speaker 2: They don't really go back to that. I don't know
Speaker 2: if she dies.
Speaker 3: And you're playing tennis and your corpses.
Speaker 1: Somewhere the red herring, it's a mcguffin.
Speaker 2: It is the thing that gets them to the cave,
Speaker 2: to get them beat up and turn into babies that
Speaker 2: suck at tennis. What's what's confusing about this?
Speaker 3: It just feels like it feels like a trope, like
Speaker 3: the wife and the fridge, Like she has no purpose.
Speaker 3: Her job is to die so that you play tennis.
Speaker 2: But what if the wife almost death made you turn
Speaker 2: into a baby and then have to learn to be
Speaker 2: good at tennis. I'm putting the images in our discord
Speaker 2: if you would like to take a look at this.
Speaker 2: So I don't just sound insane, that's that's Daisy dying
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: I think that the people at Nintendo have only just
Speaker 1: discovered cocaine in the last few years, and that just
Speaker 1: explains their run of games.
Speaker 2: Mario Otisse, t Rex's mustaches. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's really good, like Mario Odyssey. Other times it's
Speaker 1: like the end of a coke bender and they make
Speaker 1: Mario Tennis story mode.
Speaker 2: Its like half cross eyed and stuff, And despite getting
Speaker 2: lots of brass, she showed no signs of improving.
Speaker 1: Yo, she doesn't look good at all.
Speaker 3: Waluigi or Warrio.
Speaker 2: I think, said Yo. I think he's a Yo guy.
Speaker 3: Who do you think? Who do you think kok? Yeah,
Speaker 3: Cannon says.
Speaker 2: Yo, I think, says Yo. Now yeah. So it's like
Speaker 2: everything I just said makes it sound more interesting than
Speaker 2: it is. It's really not. It's like they do these
Speaker 2: stats where it's like and they make it seem like
Speaker 2: it's an RPG. It's not. It's just like meters moving
Speaker 2: up after every stupid little training thing. So totally skippable
Speaker 2: story mode if you just want to have it on
Speaker 2: your system to play a fun tennis game with every
Speaker 2: once in a while. That's fine, but at this seventy dollars,
Speaker 2: so you know, like and then how much you want
Speaker 2: to play tennis every once in a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want. I just want the tennis, and
Speaker 1: I guess I get to play Versus mode.
Speaker 2: You play Versus Mode. It's got the fever Racket, things
Speaker 2: that are like ads, like you know, these super shots that, oh,
Speaker 2: the banana racket will make it so like bananas fall
Speaker 2: on the court when it lands, you know, stuff like
Speaker 2: that like that. Yeah, yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1: Into yep, Mary, You've been playing more Mio, which you
Speaker 1: talked about in the last couple episodes.
Speaker 3: I think just the last episode, I think I started
Speaker 3: playing Meo and I really liked it, and I was,
Speaker 3: you know, comparing it to other metroid venias that I
Speaker 3: think are flighty and fun, and I was like, and
Speaker 3: it's not insanely hard. Well, it got really hard, got
Speaker 3: really really tough. Somewhere in like the fourth to fifth area,
Speaker 3: the platforming gets pretty brutal. Well, I'm still enjoying it,
Speaker 3: but I have to take breaks now because it's defeating
Speaker 3: to play a boss for like two hours. You need
Speaker 3: like a break mentally after you take on a boss.
Speaker 2: For that long hollow night levels like Silk Songs type.
Speaker 3: I would say that it's not as hard as Silk Song,
Speaker 3: but it's because it doesn't have the run backs that
Speaker 3: are so brutal. But it has a boss fight. It
Speaker 3: has this boss fight with two battling robots and there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of spikes on the ground and you just
Speaker 3: have this tiny little stand that you're on to fight
Speaker 3: these robots that are doing symmetrical moves very difficult, and
Speaker 3: then I think halfway through the fight, the stand disappears,
Speaker 3: and so you have to hit them to get your
Speaker 3: jump back, maintain your loftiness for the second half of
Speaker 3: the fight. I mean is like, come on, yes, the
Speaker 3: stand doesn't come back. You have to hold the fight
Speaker 3: by attacking them using your gly and then getting your
Speaker 3: jump back by attacking, all while not taking damage. And
Speaker 3: this game, as you progress, and it's a really beautiful
Speaker 3: like story component to it that I think is absolutely lovely,
Speaker 3: you take permanent damage. So as I'm gaining life at
Speaker 3: this stage in the game, I have like nine life
Speaker 3: and I'm really proud of it. I've lost four life permanently,
Speaker 3: so I actually only have five life. It's not as
Speaker 3: like beneficial as it seems when you keep taking permanent damage,
Speaker 3: and I think sometimes you recoup them, but right now
Speaker 3: I'm just like at a heavy loss of life. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just a brutal area that I think I'm in
Speaker 3: but still loving it, still enjoying it, and I wish
Speaker 3: I'm like determined to beat it, but I've been getting
Speaker 3: stuck at a couple of these maniacal boss and platforming
Speaker 3: spaces that I think test my patience to get through.
Speaker 3: But I am still especially for people who are Metroidvania
Speaker 3: fans and are like, I'm looking for the next Metroid Vana,
Speaker 3: this is the one I would recommend. There was a
Speaker 3: beautiful area where I kept going up and I found
Speaker 3: this hole in glass and so I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll go through this glass. And I kept going up
Speaker 3: and up and up, and it just really rewarded me
Speaker 3: with this visual display. Just a stunning place to put
Speaker 3: me in. And it just has a little bench, very
Speaker 3: hollow night and you sit in it and you just
Speaker 3: look you just look at the view as a player,
Speaker 3: and I think that that is one of the best
Speaker 3: rewards that you can give a player outside of obviously
Speaker 3: like extra health or something like that, but instead of
Speaker 3: like an item, it is a place for thoughtful introspection
Speaker 3: with really nice music and a beautiful visual. And I
Speaker 3: thought to myself, like, these devs gave a shit about
Speaker 3: the environment that they're putting you in. They're not just
Speaker 3: saying like, now do another hired boss. They were like,
Speaker 3: this area is just for you to have thinkums about
Speaker 3: life and love and why you exist. And I appreciate
Speaker 3: when games do.
Speaker 1: That kind of reminds me I need to I've been
Speaker 1: meaning to you for years to go back and play
Speaker 1: or In the Will of the Wisps.
Speaker 2: A good one.
Speaker 1: We talked about it years ago. I came out I
Speaker 1: love the Blind Forest, and I started Will of the Wisps.
Speaker 1: But I think for whatever reason, once it started to
Speaker 1: open up, I had other stuff going on. But I
Speaker 1: remember that game like really liking those environments as well.
Speaker 3: I've been comparing it to Or the most of all
Speaker 3: of the games that I would compare this too, I
Speaker 3: would say it's very similar to an Or. It's just
Speaker 3: meaner than or Ori. I think a casual person can
Speaker 3: get through Or. I don't know if a casual gamer
Speaker 3: could get through MIO. I do think you have to
Speaker 3: have some prowess for uh yeah, for being able to
Speaker 3: get through some of these boss fights, but very very thoughtful.
Speaker 2: It sounds like the combats is probably where the difficulty
Speaker 2: comes from. Where or I remember would have those spikes
Speaker 2: where it would be the very dramatic chase sequences and
Speaker 2: stuff and you got to like hit a bunch of
Speaker 2: platforming stuff.
Speaker 3: Yes, the platforming was tough. I would say, yeah, this
Speaker 3: doesn't have any timing platforming, but oh god does it
Speaker 3: have some platforming spaces that also tested my patience. But
Speaker 3: the upgrades are so powerful if you use them properly.
Speaker 3: There's an upgrade that just lets you climb walls like
Speaker 3: a spider. I mean, that is incredibly powerful. You can
Speaker 3: go everywhere with that, but you can only do it
Speaker 3: for like three seconds and again then you have to
Speaker 3: you have to recognize you have to hit somebody to
Speaker 3: get your wall climbing back. But you know, as long
Speaker 3: as you understand those fundamentals, you can get through it.
Speaker 3: So anyway, hopefully by the next time we talk, I'm
Speaker 3: trying not to jinx myself. I can be like it done.
Speaker 3: I really like it. I still like it, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's harder now.
Speaker 1: Well, Dan, you also playing Cinacross? Am I saying that correctly?
Speaker 2: I wonder that every time I say it, because it's
Speaker 2: a C I n I cross't seny Across sceney Cross.
Speaker 2: It is Pacross, which I deeply love Pacross, and it's
Speaker 2: a rogue light, which those two weren't activated my brain immediately.
Speaker 2: And I played the next Fest demo a few months
Speaker 2: back and it was great. Full game is out now.
Speaker 2: I like it a lot. It is it's like the
Speaker 2: blatrode Pacrosse, but it's got kind of that like Slay
Speaker 2: the Spire type rogue light map where you know, you
Speaker 2: see the the rooms and it's like, okay, do I
Speaker 2: want to go to the shop here this campfire to
Speaker 2: you know, get my HP back? Or do I want
Speaker 2: to go here and try to get some items on
Speaker 2: this fight or whatever? And each of the like fights
Speaker 2: has a you know, one through four or five or
Speaker 2: something difficulty level, so that corresponds like is this gonna
Speaker 2: be a five by five grid? Is this gonna be
Speaker 2: like a twenty by twenty grid? Things like that, and
Speaker 2: like it's.
Speaker 1: I sell for ten dollars right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's it's fun because like I didn't
Speaker 2: know how I was gonna feel about like because to me,
Speaker 2: pacross has always been like it's such a great game
Speaker 2: of like you don't ever need to get and across.
Speaker 2: It is a logic puzzle, the type I like where
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, with just the numbers on the board here,
Speaker 2: you should be able to tell the blocks that you
Speaker 2: need to fill in, which ones you need to break
Speaker 2: or cross out or whatever, and so you can really
Speaker 2: take your time with traditional pacrosse, this one it is
Speaker 2: timed because like you will have like a time limit
Speaker 2: like a blue orb basically that's ticking down.
Speaker 3: And that will looks like Diablo one by the way, yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it'll stay persistent. So it's like if you
Speaker 2: have five minutes at the end of the level, you're
Speaker 2: gonna have five minutes once you start the next one.
Speaker 2: And you can get upgrades and stuff like that and
Speaker 2: get items at shops where it's like I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: thirty seconds back. But then you can also get passives
Speaker 2: that are like, oh, all of your time bonuses are
Speaker 2: plus five percent and stuff like that. So there are
Speaker 2: artifacts kind of like like the Jokers and Blatro. The
Speaker 2: thing is, it's like I don't feel like there's as
Speaker 2: much you can do with pacrosse, so like the artifacts
Speaker 2: are not necessarily as exciting as something like Blatro. So
Speaker 2: you'll get buffs for like you're getting more HV game,
Speaker 2: you're getting more time bonuses, You're getting things like that.
Speaker 2: There's stuff where it's like it'll add gold cells to
Speaker 2: the pacross board, and those are times so if you
Speaker 2: get to them fast enough, you'll get some gold that
Speaker 2: you can use in shops and stuff. And I guess
Speaker 2: I didn't finish what I said about the time aspect.
Speaker 2: That is what's interesting is that, like I was worried that, like, well,
Speaker 2: Percross to me is kind of a relaxed thing. You
Speaker 2: take your time and you parse over all the numbers
Speaker 2: and everything. This one is like it's across with a
Speaker 2: time limit, and I think I'm stressful it does, but
Speaker 2: it works. I think, like I liked, I liked doing
Speaker 2: fast pacross, and this is one that kind of really
Speaker 2: rewards you for it. And I'll find myself going for
Speaker 2: that level four difficulty twenty by twenty grid over the
Speaker 2: easy because like any five y five grid you can
Speaker 2: solve in two seconds, So it's like you'll get more
Speaker 2: rewards than everything if you can solve it. But it's
Speaker 2: gonna be tough. And then there's like fun challenges and stuff,
Speaker 2: like there's items that'll give you bonuses if you don't
Speaker 2: use any crosses. So you know, like cross out blocks
Speaker 2: on pacrosse if you know there's no way that's gonna
Speaker 2: be filled in. So this one, it's like, oh, it
Speaker 2: behooves you to just fill in blocks and not mark
Speaker 2: the exit on the other one.
Speaker 3: Which is risky. If it's a lot of blocks.
Speaker 2: Yes, that makes it. The difficulty level is so much
Speaker 2: higher if you're not marking them. That's a huge part
Speaker 2: of a cross pacross. So like, there are some interesting ones.
Speaker 2: I would not expect a huge amount of variants and stuff.
Speaker 2: They're like bosses the way like you know in Blotro
Speaker 2: you do a boss and it would be like, well,
Speaker 2: all diamonds are you know, not worth anything. It will
Speaker 2: do things now where it's like okay, every few seconds
Speaker 2: the screen turns red, and any cells you try to
Speaker 2: fill in when it's red, it's gonna hurt your HP.
Speaker 2: Or there's things where it's like oh, all the numbers
Speaker 2: on the side of the grid are just rotating, they're
Speaker 2: just spinning. So it's like a fuck all right, it's
Speaker 2: kind of harding's.
Speaker 1: Two to two, that's four and one must suck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they're spinning pretty fast and everything. So
Speaker 2: like there's some fun gimmicks there and everything. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just a fun new twist on pacross. It's uh,
Speaker 2: which I'm never gonna say no to any Here's the thing,
Speaker 2: there's there's so much actual pacrosse out there, like the
Speaker 2: Pacross S series on Switch there's like fucking nine or
Speaker 2: ten of those or more. So I'm fine on just
Speaker 2: normal pacross. I could use a few more three D Pacrosses.
Speaker 2: But I think this is a cool twist on pacrosse
Speaker 2: that I'm very very much enjoying.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: I love the visual style of it. I mean, I
Speaker 3: just love it. Looking at screen shots.
Speaker 1: Of day That's what I was trying to remember. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: og funny.
Speaker 3: I think classic you know, you know, low bit rate
Speaker 3: game play. But it looks good, Like, it doesn't look bad,
Speaker 3: it looks great.
Speaker 2: How manything's going to do with it? Like they made
Speaker 2: pacrosse look visually interesting.
Speaker 3: They did. I love there's like I don't know what
Speaker 3: area this is, but there's like a spinning wheel so
Speaker 3: it looks kind of gambly, and there's like a ball
Speaker 3: with a bunch of orbs in it and it's your gold.
Speaker 3: Like that looks fun because it's it's tactic. It's tactile.
Speaker 3: It's not you have forty gold. It's like a ball
Speaker 3: filled with balls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's at the end of every puzzle you
Speaker 2: get all that stuff. There is that slot machine, so
Speaker 2: like the higher difficulties, there's more reels on the slot
Speaker 2: machine to get the artifacts. There is that spinning wheel
Speaker 2: at the bottom that that if it lands on like
Speaker 2: a two times thing, you'll get two items that you
Speaker 2: can pile like consumables and stuff. So it's like you'll
Speaker 2: get a consumable that's like, oh, whenever you pop it,
Speaker 2: it's going to randomly fill in twenty cells on the
Speaker 2: puzzle you're on right now where you pop.
Speaker 3: This one a really fun Steam deck game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it is the thing where
Speaker 2: it's like obviously with the mouse you can move around
Speaker 2: a big grid much faster, but you know you can
Speaker 2: play it. Like most of my time was on the
Speaker 2: plane and play with the steam deck so that it
Speaker 2: does work, and you can use the track deck if
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 3: You can use the track pad, which you find customs thing,
Speaker 3: you know, using the mouse with your.
Speaker 2: I was just using the stick. It's fine, I might
Speaker 2: try track pad thing. I actually made a custom track
Speaker 2: pad one for Eugenics, and that did make it a
Speaker 2: little nicer. So oh interesting, So I'm it was easier
Speaker 2: to do that. I've not fiddled with that stuff much,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I made it so just the right track
Speaker 2: pad is the mouse cursor, and then the back left
Speaker 2: top button is like the left click, so you can
Speaker 2: just kind of move around that way a little quick.
Speaker 3: This is neat. I'm tempted to buy this. I'm also
Speaker 3: tempted to gift this to my dad because he really
Speaker 3: really likes Bilotro. He plays it every day. I know
Speaker 3: he does, because I get a ping when I'm working
Speaker 3: when people in my close friends list open up a game.
Speaker 3: And he plays this every day. I think he tells
Speaker 3: me he gets a coffee, opens up his stocks, and
Speaker 3: then plays Bilatro for two hours or like until he loses.
Speaker 3: I love that then, and that's like a part of
Speaker 3: his existence. I don't think this is probably going to
Speaker 3: become a part of his day to day. But I
Speaker 3: think Pitcross is like something we can all spend an
Speaker 3: afternoon doing and enjoying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it does seem like there's a good amount
Speaker 2: of longevity to it because like they're different classes where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, the Archer has this thing where it's
Speaker 2: like the Archer when you fill in one row, it'll
Speaker 2: like automatically fill in all the x's on the up
Speaker 2: and down, left and right. And then there's the Archer
Speaker 2: that does certain things where it's I forget whether the
Speaker 2: details are that, but they all have their own like
Speaker 2: level up dial and you'll get persistent upgrades and stuff
Speaker 2: as you level up at each of the classes. So
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always having a good time. I'm playing placrosse.
Speaker 2: So you give me any kind of these like long
Speaker 2: tail type things on it, and like, I'm gonna play
Speaker 2: the shit out of this game.
Speaker 3: I think for less than ten dollars too, this is
Speaker 3: the type of game you probably could pour a shit
Speaker 3: ton of hours in.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's got a demo too on Steam, got free
Speaker 1: demo ten dollars. Read that sounds fun? Do you guys
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Speaker 3: Okay, Jesse, Sorry, I got it. Hello is Gapees. I've
Speaker 3: started incorporating Mike's You could be anywhere in the world
Speaker 3: right now, but you decided to be here sign off
Speaker 3: at the end of my weekly work meetings. What's Gucci Stanley?
Speaker 3: Tucci has not cut on yet. Yeah, nobody has caught
Speaker 3: on to What's Gucci Stanley?
Speaker 2: Including Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trying to end it. My question for all
Speaker 3: of you is, after you've done recording this episode, if
Speaker 3: you could be anywhere else, literally anywhere, whether it's inside
Speaker 3: your favorite game, world, a book, a movie, a time period,
Speaker 3: or Dan's bathtub full of mac and cheese, where would
Speaker 3: it be and why? Thank you for years of great laughs,
Speaker 3: interesting conversation to hot takes. Here's to more Jesse from Vegas.
Speaker 1: Please come visit for the record. I got that line
Speaker 1: you could be anywhere in the world from I think
Speaker 1: it was lin Manuel Miranda, But there's like older recordings
Speaker 1: some songs by use it, like Avalanches has a song
Speaker 1: that uses it. So it's not my line. I have
Speaker 1: a specific spots for sure.
Speaker 2: Taken in a very literal sense, saying like right after
Speaker 2: recording this episode, I mean the answer for me is
Speaker 2: usually going to bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh for sure, that's what I do. And
Speaker 1: I'm an hour heady yeah yeah, but war somewhere anywhere
Speaker 1: in the world. I still think the most beautiful place
Speaker 1: I've ever been in the world is Hanolai bay on Kawhi.
Speaker 1: That was pretty like otherworldly. I wouldn't mind warping there
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: I'd like to be in the world of Twisted Metal two.
Speaker 2: I've thought this a lot. I think that just seems
Speaker 2: like the most fun place to be.
Speaker 1: That seems aren't there like murderers driving around blowing each
Speaker 1: other up in cars?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just seems over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, had more of a game show element to it
Speaker 2: and some steaks. You got steaks, you know. I I'd
Speaker 2: want to have a cool car in it, and it
Speaker 2: just like they get to travel around the real world
Speaker 2: and do fun things to it. And uh, there's a
Speaker 2: bunch of wacky fun characters.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I'd like to be one of them.
Speaker 3: I think you would be a wacky character, but I
Speaker 3: don't think you would be like living a wacky life.
Speaker 3: I think you'd be selling bottle caps down by the
Speaker 3: river for like scraps of human hair.
Speaker 2: But I would want to car the shot missiles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you wouldn't have it yet because you're selling
Speaker 3: bottle caps down by the river for.
Speaker 2: This isn't then this isn't the answer then, And the
Speaker 2: answer to this question is not that I don't want
Speaker 2: to be a bottle cap river guy. I want to
Speaker 2: be a guy strapped to two wheels screaming and shooting
Speaker 2: missiles at you as well. Yeah, but I mean everyone's
Speaker 2: in the same playing field in that world, right, everyone's
Speaker 2: dealing with that.
Speaker 1: I just want to go somewhere where there's not like
Speaker 1: violence being enacted upon me.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want it to be like real. I'd want
Speaker 2: to be like well, I guess the Running Man it
Speaker 2: was real. Silence.
Speaker 1: What's like the most picturesque, relaxing, like charming place from
Speaker 1: a video game, you'd want to be nether realm, like
Speaker 1: from Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there's violence there Dan, right, but it's.
Speaker 2: Also like remember like Cyraxx got stuck in the sand
Speaker 2: and the beach.
Speaker 1: I want to go to the forest world in su
Speaker 1: Mario Odyssey where it's just like the beach funk playing.
Speaker 2: Steam Gardens, Yeah, surf Rock, Yes, that's violent.
Speaker 3: Pretty violent. I mean I wouldn't want to be there forever.
Speaker 3: But when I think of like peaceful and serene video games,
Speaker 3: I think of obviously Starduo. That would be so fun.
Speaker 3: We talked about that last episode, how lovely that would
Speaker 3: be that I would actually want to do that. I
Speaker 3: think I would really genuinely enjoy being a little stardew
Speaker 3: farmer slime rancher, the one with the sandwiches where you
Speaker 3: collect the little uh it's like Pokemon, but they're pieces
Speaker 3: of sandwich and food. Have sandwich?
Speaker 1: I know exactly it was. It was fucking cook It
Speaker 1: just huge for a while. It was like no early
Speaker 1: PlayStation five, like it's like a Animals. Yes, we got
Speaker 1: I forgot that game.
Speaker 2: It was a long walk.
Speaker 1: I would also love if I know this is a
Speaker 1: very different question, Like if if I could warp somewhere
Speaker 1: and live there with Amanda for the rest of my life,
Speaker 1: I'd want the house from Call Me by Your Name
Speaker 1: Never leave it ever, that's that's my I wonder.
Speaker 3: Too, that's a good idea as well. I would want
Speaker 3: to be in one of the mansions from hit Man
Speaker 3: and just be.
Speaker 2: Like the Paris one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously the hit Man wouldn't be there for me.
Speaker 1: Even the house in Hawk's Bay and New Zealand is
Speaker 1: pretty awesome too.
Speaker 2: What about the bedroom and train spotting with the dead
Speaker 2: baby crawling on the ceiling.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go weird with yours. I want to and
Speaker 1: I want to be in the room where Jennifer Connelly
Speaker 1: has a two sided dildo.
Speaker 2: I think you're making it sound more fun than that
Speaker 2: scene was. Yep, you're leaving out some details.
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to be on the other end of it. No,
Speaker 1: it would be uh, you know, it would be the
Speaker 1: house will Call Me by Your Name. I also really
Speaker 1: like whatever, how what's my favorite house from a video
Speaker 1: game or a movie? Like, what would be my favorite
Speaker 1: home from one of.
Speaker 2: Those Sapienza one?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 2: There's a lot in hippand they're all these huge ornate things.
Speaker 1: The house behind the winery in we want.
Speaker 5: To live in the Burj Khalifa. You know, I have
Speaker 5: a'm a I'm a girl with a small.
Speaker 1: Dream, small and tall, you know what I.
Speaker 5: Mean, tallest in the world, as they say, the Khalifa tallest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, what if it was like pluribus and
Speaker 1: you could have Air Force one come pick you up
Speaker 1: right now and you could go anywhere. That's basically what
Speaker 1: we talked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is better because supposedly in this world
Speaker 3: it's not miserable. You would just be everybody environment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could also get so many things from
Speaker 2: Like I could fly to New York and get a
Speaker 2: great slicepez at where I can just have everyone knows
Speaker 2: how to make it here in Minnesota, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if it was plurbist, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: If you were pluribist, these things wouldn't be as fun.
Speaker 3: But I will say if I was pluribist, being in
Speaker 3: bug snacks would still be pretty delightful.
Speaker 2: I would like being in bugs bug snacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that'd be like a bad assid trip
Speaker 1: being in bug snacks. I don't know, in the situation
Speaker 1: where you also a bug snack.
Speaker 2: I think you're a human. I mean, it gets pretty
Speaker 2: weird by the end, but for ninety five percent of
Speaker 2: bug snacks, it would be a good time.
Speaker 1: Oh here's a question. I don't think we've ever asked,
Speaker 1: what would if you were a bug snack? Describe your form?
Speaker 1: Cool ranch you'd be that's not You're just a buddle
Speaker 1: of cool ranch.
Speaker 3: Anonymous with Oh, you're just cool ranch like a river.
Speaker 1: I'm so tired. That really didn't even register that that's
Speaker 1: what you were saying.
Speaker 2: Is that on the periodic table. No, it comes in
Speaker 2: the form of a crispy triangle.
Speaker 1: I would be, Oh, I'd be bug snack.
Speaker 3: It would just be like a what's your favorite snack?
Speaker 1: Is my favorite snack?
Speaker 2: You like pretzels?
Speaker 1: I like pretzels. That's what you always say, Like what's
Speaker 1: your we have around the house and you guys visit,
Speaker 1: I say pretzels. That's like my basic.
Speaker 3: Wait, I know what you would be, Mike. You'd be
Speaker 3: a fucking banana because every day for breakfast, and they're
Speaker 3: also hard and alert, and I just think that that's you.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've got it. It would be a banana from up
Speaker 1: here and then where like the bottom point is. It'd
Speaker 1: be like the tip of a wine bottle as a dick.
Speaker 3: Okay, it would be a banana, but it's peeled upside down,
Speaker 3: so your eyes are up here and then the peel
Speaker 3: is below and you're just like, you know, flapping your dog.
Speaker 1: Round a banana that's like unpeeled, and there's actually instead
Speaker 1: of banana inside, it's a bottle of wine that's just
Speaker 1: spewing its stuff all over.
Speaker 2: No, it's just a dick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like one of the drawings from super Bad
Speaker 1: in his notebook.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the mutations and mugenics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you, Jessee, Vegas. We will try
Speaker 1: to visit soon. I have never been Vegas. Ah, Dan,
Speaker 1: you want to read this one from Nathan.
Speaker 2: Sure Hey, fire Escapees. This winter, I took up skiing
Speaker 2: in a big way. I always hated the idea of skiing.
Speaker 2: Would get invitations to go, but say I didn't want
Speaker 2: to most because of money, the cold, didn't think I'd
Speaker 2: enjoyed it, et cetera. But now I love it. Dan's
Speaker 2: distaste for dungeons and dragons made me think, what are
Speaker 2: some examples of times you were resistant to try something
Speaker 2: only to find out you love it. PS. Mike, you
Speaker 2: recommended Invisible Cities to me previously. It's one of my
Speaker 2: favorite novels of all time. Thank you. It was Nathan
Speaker 2: from an Age, New Hampshire, things that we thought we
Speaker 2: would hate and then we wound up liking. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was definitely like a lot of things that just
Speaker 2: like I had weird aversions too, I mean almost always
Speaker 2: because my dad where it's like coffee, wine like and
Speaker 2: things like like for ins nice dinners. That's a thing
Speaker 2: where it's like my dad was always so so cheap
Speaker 2: and like he wouldn't even go to a fast food
Speaker 2: place if he doesn't have a cubon. That's still the case.
Speaker 2: So like the idea of like going to a nice
Speaker 2: dinner or something like that is so like would be
Speaker 2: so mocked my entire life. And it's like once I
Speaker 2: just got like older and married and stuff, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we should go try all these nice places. It's like
Speaker 2: like this time living in Minneapolis versus the first time
Speaker 2: I lived there is completely different because I was just
Speaker 2: way more like my dad the first time, and I
Speaker 2: only ate cheap ass garbage and I still love cheapass garbage,
Speaker 2: but now we go to like nice restaurants and stuff
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, I really like this and it
Speaker 2: feels like you're really treating yourself and everything. And that's
Speaker 2: the thing I never felt comfortable doing before was brain
Speaker 2: to not like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my big one would just be the beach.
Speaker 1: I've all, like, most of my life, I've hated the
Speaker 1: beach and I just I didn't like it. It takes
Speaker 1: it's such an effort, and I'm like, I'm not talking
Speaker 1: like a little private thing you can walk on to
Speaker 1: when you get an airbnb with like lake access or
Speaker 1: something that's always great. I'm talking like pack up the car,
Speaker 1: drive to the beach, and then like go down the beach,
Speaker 1: find the spot or you like, and then you're kind
Speaker 1: of surrounded by people. Marrying Amanda has changed my mind
Speaker 1: and I get the appeal now, and also like, I mean,
Speaker 1: look at me. I'm not the best in sun for
Speaker 1: prolonged periods of time, but I've started to embrace like
Speaker 1: the zen of it when you do it to go
Speaker 1: just relax and I'll like dip into the water every
Speaker 1: once in a while, come back out, lay in the
Speaker 1: sun and then I'll just read like an entire book
Speaker 1: all day. I used to hate the beach. It was
Speaker 1: like my least favorite outdoor activity. Not a biome, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I'm I'm I still wouldn't
Speaker 1: I'm a beach guy, But you see the appeal. Now
Speaker 1: I see the appeal and I embrace it every summer,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: I think that's nice. Like we're all I would consider
Speaker 3: moderately stubborn people. So it's good to be able to
Speaker 3: like recognize growth and be like I can like these things.
Speaker 3: I can enjoy something I didn't like before. I've never
Speaker 3: been into sports. I've never felt like I could get
Speaker 3: into it. I don't care when I say sports, I
Speaker 3: mean like watching the game, right, It's just not something
Speaker 3: that I do. But I had a double sports week
Speaker 3: because it was the Super Bowl, which I watched specifically
Speaker 3: for Bad Bunny, and I ended up like liking watching
Speaker 3: I actually didn't think the game was great, but like,
Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching it and I enjoyed watching the halftime show.
Speaker 3: And then the next day I got tickets to a
Speaker 3: basketball game local, the Portland Blazers.
Speaker 1: Wait, you went to a Blazer game? Who was that
Speaker 1: when they're playing the Spurs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got free ticket seventy six ers.
Speaker 1: Oh, the seventy six ers. That was a good game too.
Speaker 3: And I don't go to basketball games, nor do I
Speaker 3: watch them, and so I was like, this is gonna
Speaker 3: be silly, like I'm gonna go and probably be bored,
Speaker 3: and you guys, I was all in. I mean, I
Speaker 3: was amazed with how talented and entertaining the game was.
Speaker 3: The food was fucking good too, Dan, Like I specifically
Speaker 3: say you, because I think often when you go to
Speaker 3: these things, you're like, it's gonna be like crappy nacho cheese. Dude,
Speaker 3: it was like but it was like delicious. It had
Speaker 3: like pork roasted pork nachos and stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: the pretzels with the dippies and I got popcorn with
Speaker 3: all the fixings. I found five dollars beers. I was
Speaker 3: going crazy and then yeah that's crazy, yes, wow, And
Speaker 3: I was. I was having so much fun, like I
Speaker 3: would like in college when you like go to a
Speaker 3: college game. I was like, it was I was a
Speaker 3: kid again. Their star player his name is too Money
Speaker 3: and so like he.
Speaker 1: Wait, who's for the Blazers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just kept scoring and.
Speaker 1: You got Denny Afdia too, and we kept saying gorgeous
Speaker 1: that Israeli sensation.
Speaker 3: They're all smoking. Yeah, but like how fun is it that?
Speaker 3: Like we just kept being like too money buckets, he's
Speaker 3: too good, Like it was so good, like enjoying these
Speaker 3: players and like the little jokes that they would do.
Speaker 3: They're all in green screens, like pretending to eat like
Speaker 3: McDonald's sandwiches because I think McDonald's was a sponsor, and
Speaker 3: it's just like I think I got into the whole thing,
Speaker 3: the crappy green screen of the players being like swoosh.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: They do like to get the crowd going. During commercial
Speaker 1: breaks and timeouts, they'll do like all right, everybody like
Speaker 1: and then they'll have the players do it on the
Speaker 1: screen like record yeah.
Speaker 3: Bad bad, and it's it's but it's it's good, bad good,
Speaker 3: and they embrace it. Yeah, there doing it right, and
Speaker 3: they're probably getting paid like a decent amount to do it.
Speaker 3: And I think by the end of the game, yes,
Speaker 3: I was like five beers deep, but I was like
Speaker 3: I was full of nachos and popcorn. I got ice
Speaker 3: cream at some point. I remember I just remember every
Speaker 3: quarter I was like a little snack and watch too money,
Speaker 3: like fucking fuck these people up. It was so fun.
Speaker 3: We won like it was a crazy landslide.
Speaker 1: To memory serves, it was good.
Speaker 3: It was a good game, and I left. I left
Speaker 3: being like I was wrong. Basketball's fun. Sports are fun.
Speaker 3: Going to a sports game is fun. I gotta get
Speaker 3: more into sports, and so I'm glad that I learned
Speaker 3: from that experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're going to Warriors Nicks in a few weeks
Speaker 1: in March. I can't wait. I've never been to a, uh,
Speaker 1: that's cool, an NBA game. I've been to many basketball games,
Speaker 1: but not NBA. But yeah, there's like for all the
Speaker 1: people that scoff at sports, but I absolutely get that
Speaker 1: many aspects of the culture are very off putting. And
Speaker 1: I don't argue with that whatsoever. I was just telling Dan,
Speaker 1: like a lot of I will say, mostly guys in
Speaker 1: like certain circles. All they talk about when I'm trying to,
Speaker 1: like when I'm trying to watch the NBA is like
Speaker 1: what their bets are, and I get it. Sometimes they'll
Speaker 1: try to have fun and put like a ten dollars
Speaker 1: bet on, like the coin toss, the super Bowl. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, sure, whatever, but like it's taken over sports
Speaker 1: conversations so much that I really need to silo myself
Speaker 1: away from that. I'm not trying to be like holier
Speaker 1: than thou, I just I actually really really enjoy basketball.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know what the over under is.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know, Like I don't care about
Speaker 1: the bets, the betting odds. I just care more about,
Speaker 1: like what are the odds that this unskilled team is
Speaker 1: going to beat the skilled team as the underdog. But
Speaker 1: like the communal aspect of going to certain sports, I
Speaker 1: will say I don't like go into football games. I
Speaker 1: would much rather watch football on TV. And I don't
Speaker 1: even want really like watching football that better.
Speaker 3: Because the stadium is so big, you get a better
Speaker 3: view from the camera angle than you would in the
Speaker 3: auditorium where is the basketball game. I had a great view.
Speaker 3: My view was better than the camera view. I could
Speaker 3: see the players, I could see everything. I felt like
Speaker 3: I was fortunate to be in the auditorium for that one.
Speaker 3: But football is too big.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like with football, the thing is like
Speaker 2: it almost behooves you to be higher up because it's
Speaker 2: so much better, like actually seeing the play and the
Speaker 2: formations and everything. The higher up you are you can
Speaker 2: actually kind of see what receivers are open and kind
Speaker 2: of see where everyone's at versus down below. It's a
Speaker 2: little harder.
Speaker 1: I know, I've been I like going to hockey games
Speaker 1: as well. I've never been to an NHL game, but
Speaker 1: I've been to hockey games like college level, and I
Speaker 1: always had fun there. But yeah, it's like the communal
Speaker 1: aspect of it, like the live show aspect of it,
Speaker 1: the unpredictability of the show. It's not like you're going
Speaker 1: and seeing a set list. You're going to see something unpredictable.
Speaker 1: It's great, But yeah, I would say like the that's
Speaker 1: probably mine would be the beach.
Speaker 2: I thought of a real obvious one for me, yoga,
Speaker 2: where if you would have asked me in college or like, oh,
Speaker 2: what do you think yoga is, I'd be like, Oh.
Speaker 1: That's the hippie, nippy, new ag bullshit thing.
Speaker 3: I assume that's what college can do.
Speaker 2: Was to say no, I just would have like really
Speaker 2: belittled it quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And it's like he's he's changed.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, But I think when I say like, sorry,
Speaker 3: that's like rude. Uh, and it's a derogatory term, but
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that like in a college gross
Speaker 3: boy way, I.
Speaker 2: Would have been anything that anything that read like new
Speaker 2: age or whatever. It's like, oh, this is bullshit. Like
Speaker 2: I would probably the same thing about meditation at a
Speaker 2: certain point. I remember you remember the show Penn and
Speaker 2: Teller's Bullshit. It was basically just these two Well here's
Speaker 2: one very loud libertarian guy being like, here's why this
Speaker 2: thing sucks and it's stupid. And that was the whole show,
Speaker 2: and it had like six seasons or something, and one
Speaker 2: of the episodes was yoga. And I liked the show,
Speaker 2: and yeah, this was just stretching. They're just stretching. This
Speaker 2: is stupid. It's not disperancy, parents, blah blah blah, meditative
Speaker 2: And it's like I always dismissed it. And then do
Speaker 2: you remember P ninety X, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, there remember P ninety X, who wouldn't shut up
Speaker 3: about right people.
Speaker 2: Got with Tim. Terry got me into when we were
Speaker 2: a game informer. So it's like, you know, like twenty
Speaker 2: ten or whatever, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Just looking Terry was a P ninety x er.
Speaker 2: Yes, he loved it. That's funny, Tim, I think would
Speaker 2: be okay with me saying this. Tim is such a
Speaker 2: kind hearted Minnesotan boy that he pirated P ninety X
Speaker 2: and it's oh yeah, and I did. He thought, you
Speaker 2: know what, I've gotten such good use out of this.
Speaker 2: I need to buy it and pay Tony Horton for
Speaker 2: you know, all that good he's brought to my life.
Speaker 2: Oh what a pure man that Tim Terry is. He's like,
Speaker 2: this man has helped me out. I'm going to pay
Speaker 2: for this.
Speaker 1: I still do some like calisthenics from like the ab
Speaker 1: Ripper DVD that he did, and I still I can
Speaker 1: hear him in my in my head sometimes saying like
Speaker 1: I hate this one, but I love it.
Speaker 2: See the same videos a million times. Remember Tony Warton
Speaker 2: bending over doing these like arm things, like you're just
Speaker 2: sturn up a big soup, but you know you got
Speaker 2: a nice bisk What do you got over there?
Speaker 1: You got a potato soup? You got it?
Speaker 4: Like that?
Speaker 2: Dumb shit? Yeah, But like I was doing that, and
Speaker 2: it was like each day would be some different so
Speaker 2: like oh it's upper body here, it's cardio for Thursdays
Speaker 2: and Wednesdays was yoga day, and I remember being like,
Speaker 2: all right, if I'm gonna try this thing, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: like actually follow.
Speaker 1: I got to be a.
Speaker 3: Real cool guy that I respect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she wasn't like cool, but it was still like,
Speaker 2: this is like a workout program. Oh, this is just
Speaker 2: like a workout thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah for men, right, and I tried it.
Speaker 2: I was like, but then I immediately started going to
Speaker 2: classes and stuff and I was like the only dude
Speaker 2: in most of these, But it was like, no, this
Speaker 2: is a fucking great workout. I love it. Like I
Speaker 2: never attached it to any kind of like I think
Speaker 2: I mistakenly thought, and people still think that's about yoga.
Speaker 2: They don't know anything about yoga is that it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: everyone attaches some like mystical element to it, and you
Speaker 2: will get that. Like I've gone to enough actual yoga
Speaker 2: classes that you'll definitely get those teachers that are just like, oh,
Speaker 2: open the hard chakra or this and this is you know,
Speaker 2: they get way more flowery with the stuff. But then
Speaker 2: it is also just like a fucking workout, like I
Speaker 2: do the Elicon yoga stuff, like all the time out in.
Speaker 3: Your body to lift your own body weight.
Speaker 1: It was like there's there's like the Dragon where you're
Speaker 1: doing this for like at the end of the class
Speaker 1: for an hour or it's like for like ten minutes
Speaker 1: straight in your shoulders are just on fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh no, there's like the power of Benasa Flow
Speaker 2: stuff that is just you know, really fast up and
Speaker 2: a lot of like you know, planks and basically push
Speaker 2: ups and things like that.
Speaker 3: Do pilates, Dan, I haven't.
Speaker 2: Done pilties that's on that is on peloton as well,
Speaker 2: and I've never tried it.
Speaker 3: I would be open to it, really like to hear
Speaker 3: what you think of pilates, because pilates is all like
Speaker 3: you're going to use all your body weight to do
Speaker 3: this move and it's very difficult.
Speaker 2: But yoga ask I should try it because like core
Speaker 2: strength has always been my weak point and you do
Speaker 2: need it for running. Oh it'll get you so like
Speaker 2: I do need to do more cour shit, So like
Speaker 2: I should do the peloton stuff.
Speaker 3: And I love I'd love to see what you think
Speaker 3: I've seen. I don't know why, but I think the
Speaker 3: Alger of the months on YouTube was like men doing
Speaker 3: pilates and it was all these like really strong men
Speaker 3: being like, oh, I.
Speaker 1: Wonder why it's hard.
Speaker 3: It's hard on your core, it's hard on your should
Speaker 3: try it on your on your muscles, and you have
Speaker 3: to you have to deal with your own weight.
Speaker 1: That's its purpose, body weight exercise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tell me, tell me how it goes.
Speaker 1: I have a friend who does a lot of solid core.
Speaker 1: Is that similar to Pilate's do you know? So? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a newer one, but it's also like specific
Speaker 1: company doing like they have.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of forms.
Speaker 2: Okay, an orange orange fitness, orange theory whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm sure people who are really into it would probably
Speaker 3: be like, no, they're very different. But to me as
Speaker 3: an outsider who who like dabbles, I dabble in yoga,
Speaker 3: I dabble in pilates and dabble in all these things
Speaker 3: just to like mix it up, because I get bored
Speaker 3: with workout routines really fast, and so every two weeks
Speaker 3: I usually start a different program and do it until
Speaker 3: I get bored of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I've I've done a lot of different versions of them,
Speaker 3: but I'll never forget pilates.
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta try it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you, Nathan. I will get this
Speaker 1: last one. Thanks to Dan I have the song Bundle
Speaker 1: of Nerves playing in my head constantly. It's a waking nightmare,
Speaker 1: only lessened by the images of and by the image
Speaker 1: of Mike Manatti in a wig, appearing to be so
Speaker 1: frustrated he's trying to pull the fake hairs out of
Speaker 1: his head, and that one day Dan will us. It's
Speaker 1: only lessened also by the idea that one day Dan
Speaker 1: will indeed pay. So, what's the worst song you've ever
Speaker 1: had stuck in your head? Yours faithfully, Alex in Bendigo, Australia,
Speaker 1: probably like it's also the worst song would probably be
Speaker 1: Mombo number five.
Speaker 2: That's for You is incredible yep. Or he just won't
Speaker 2: stop cranking turn it off.
Speaker 1: That one guy legitimately freaking out with the far Backs. Oh,
Speaker 1: actually no, I have one other one. And this is
Speaker 1: like one of the things that Amanda was very surprised
Speaker 1: after we got married to learn that I knew most
Speaker 1: of the song country Girl by Luke Bryan by heart.
Speaker 1: I listened to a I had a friend when I
Speaker 1: was in Sarakee, still living there, Like there was a
Speaker 1: surprising amount of country music going around in Central New York.
Speaker 1: So I still to this day can remember most of
Speaker 1: Country Girl. I'm sorry, Yeah, that's unfortunate. I carry it
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 3: It's a bob when the lyrics get stuck in there.
Speaker 3: I have a I have a vivid memory of being
Speaker 3: in San Francisco working at at game spot, so poor
Speaker 3: and uh, really wanting to get a massage. I think
Speaker 3: I pulled something and I was like, oh, I think
Speaker 3: a massage will really fix me up. But I can't
Speaker 3: afford to get like a fancy massage from a fancy place.
Speaker 3: I'll go to one of those nail salons where I saw,
Speaker 3: you know, a sign in the window this and we
Speaker 3: also will do a massage and facial for like sixty bucks.
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's a good deal, like a
Speaker 3: sixty dollars massage. I'll just go there. And so I
Speaker 3: go to this. I book it in advance and I
Speaker 3: go and there's these curtains that separate you from the
Speaker 3: nail salon. It's not a room, it's curtains. And that
Speaker 3: was not a great start. But I was like, that's fine,
Speaker 3: this is a affordable massage. I just want someone to
Speaker 3: help me feel better. I can deal with it. And
Speaker 3: I get on the table and the ladies like uh
Speaker 3: has her own music. It's basically a boom box that's
Speaker 3: like in the corner and she's putting on a song
Speaker 3: or whatever, and she starts to massage me and the
Speaker 3: song comes on and it's Timber by Pitbull.
Speaker 1: And Kesha, Yes what it's massage.
Speaker 3: It's a nail salon. Yeah, And I remember being like
Speaker 3: this is so odd, but like again, it's a very
Speaker 3: affordable massage. It's a local place that's probably starting their business.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm going to leave it alone. And
Speaker 3: so it's just like I'm getting a massage, like I'm
Speaker 3: yelling Timber. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's just like a.
Speaker 3: Very strange st So the song ends. I'm still getting
Speaker 3: my massage. The song starts up again. The entire Timber
Speaker 3: by Pitbull song plays a second time, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's weird. That should not happen in a playlist. That's uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: I didn't like it the first time, I definitely don't
Speaker 3: like it the second time. But I am not a
Speaker 3: complainer and I don't want to say anything. And so
Speaker 3: I sit there and get massaged for another round of
Speaker 3: Timber by Pitbull. The song ends, Timber by pit Bull
Speaker 3: plays a third time and I say, okay, I can't
Speaker 3: do it, and she goes, all right.
Speaker 6: Well, let me look, and she sides like messing with
Speaker 6: the fucking boom box to put on a different song,
Speaker 6: and she finally puts down like a calm you know,
Speaker 6: like water track where it's just like liquid, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and I'm eating there. She knew she
Speaker 1: had the other one ready because she knew at some
Speaker 1: point she would annoy someone with Timber.
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there getting my massaged like running water
Speaker 3: and in my fucking head for the rest of this
Speaker 3: forty five minute massage. It was just like, let's make
Speaker 3: a net. You won't remember. It's like it's stuck. It
Speaker 3: was stuck in my head the rest of my day.
Speaker 3: This like fucking Pitbull song. So to this day, when
Speaker 3: I hear that song, I kind of I don't hate it,
Speaker 3: but I I laugh and I think of like the
Speaker 3: worst massage I've ever had when I kept hearing pibull.
Speaker 2: It's cheaper though, if you just let it play pipple
Speaker 2: the whole time, they give your discount for something.
Speaker 3: I think she everyone seemed fine with it, but me,
Speaker 3: I was the only person that was like is this
Speaker 3: is this acceptable to everyone else here? Like, I don't
Speaker 3: understand how you can play this once, let alone three
Speaker 3: times and think I'm not going to say something.
Speaker 2: Mine was like a three month period in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2: I was working at AMC thirty theaters inlate the Kansas
Speaker 2: and we I think it was probably the summer because
Speaker 2: I remember working there like every day like long shifts
Speaker 2: and stuff, and we would get these CDs every month
Speaker 2: and it was movie tunes and it was just the
Speaker 2: background music that would play at the theaters basically, and
Speaker 2: you know, it was just like it was like the
Speaker 2: CD length, so it's like what like an hour and
Speaker 2: a half maybe, because you know, people wouldn't would just
Speaker 2: hear while they in line for Popcorn River, but we
Speaker 2: would hear it on repeat every day. And I remember
Speaker 2: living Levita Loco is on there. That's fine, But I
Speaker 2: think this must have been really popular or just came
Speaker 2: out or they paid to be on movie tunes or whatever.
Speaker 2: That song Smooth by Carlos Santana and Rob Thomas.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: It's also It's Jimps and Chimps in About the mid
Speaker 2: Day Son that one that was on that season like
Speaker 2: three times. So every day I was hearing that song
Speaker 2: like dozens of times, and for some reason, we didn't
Speaker 2: get new movie tune CDs for like a couple months,
Speaker 2: so there was a stretch of like three like It's
Speaker 2: probably the song I've heard the most in my life
Speaker 2: because of that.
Speaker 1: I've thought about this before. I used to hate getting
Speaker 1: a song stuck in my head. Now I don't mind
Speaker 1: it as much, And I wonder if it used to
Speaker 1: be more annoying because we'd have it stuck in our
Speaker 1: head and then we'd have like those five CDs in
Speaker 1: our car or that one cassette tape, whereas now it's like,
Speaker 1: I think it's harder for a song to get stuck
Speaker 1: on heavy because we have access to Spotify like any
Speaker 1: song we want in our pocket. So maybe it's not
Speaker 1: like I'm not tied to like Danny California was stuck
Speaker 1: in my head for like years because we just had
Speaker 1: Stadium Arcadium in the car. Su great song still, but
Speaker 1: like I still I have other options if I want
Speaker 1: to go away from like snow Hao every once in
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 2: That's very specific. Yeah, just just one of Stadium Arcadian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Mars, Yeah, I don't think that if you
Speaker 3: had to listen to Santana for the rest of your
Speaker 3: life that you would be like, I don't mind it.
Speaker 3: I don't mind having Santana in my head for the
Speaker 3: rest of my days.
Speaker 1: It's weird that I will have the eras.
Speaker 2: I'll have eras of my life where it's like I
Speaker 2: will have one song that is the song that I
Speaker 2: default to. You could ask Jason ah Striker any fucking
Speaker 2: time we were getting ready to start a video replay
Speaker 2: a game informer a quick look at Giant Bomb, I
Speaker 2: would be humming without even realizing it, Uh, take me
Speaker 2: Home Tonight by Eddie Money Run Babe, my little baby.
Speaker 2: I would just feel like and he would like remember
Speaker 2: one time he started singing and I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: did you know I would He's like, dang, you've been
Speaker 2: humming that for like five years or something.
Speaker 3: Wow. That would get to me.
Speaker 2: I would say, take me Home Tonight was like five
Speaker 2: to twenty sixteen, and then I had a period, let's
Speaker 2: say twenty sixteen to like twenty twenty three where it
Speaker 2: was the Stroke by Billy Squire or like Merma Stroke.
Speaker 2: May Maybe it's.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're singing these songs for us as if we
Speaker 1: don't know the song, just sure.
Speaker 2: But these are in my head for many years time,
Speaker 2: and for some reason, the last like three years it
Speaker 2: has just been the limbo song.
Speaker 4: Deeper It, Burtter Jack Dunder, Candlestick, Jerk Brander canderstick that one.
Speaker 4: Actually then you do a limbo rock Hey, hell can
Speaker 4: you go? That was like, it's fucking insane.
Speaker 2: It's in my head.
Speaker 3: The lyric Candlestick was in there because I had no
Speaker 3: idea what you were singing.
Speaker 2: Every fucking day, I will just be walking Like I
Speaker 2: was living with Kaila for like two months when I
Speaker 2: was waiting for my house to close, and at one
Speaker 2: point she was like, stop fucking singing the lingo limbo song.
Speaker 3: That would drive me absolutely bonkers.
Speaker 4: Do that.
Speaker 2: Like to this day, I was probably humming it a man.
Speaker 1: It gets mad at me because I like, like, we'll
Speaker 1: sing stuff like that around the house and get earworms
Speaker 1: in her head. Yeah, some of them I just make
Speaker 1: up when I'm doing something. But like I've been a
Speaker 1: Billy Joel phase lately. And have you heard the song
Speaker 1: down Easter Alexa. It's just an entire ballad about a
Speaker 1: guy who lives like on Long Island. He's a fisherman
Speaker 1: and he has to sell his house and live on
Speaker 1: his boat and fish because there's no money in being
Speaker 1: just the bait man at the docks anymore. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Around the house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like everybody loves it. It sounds like
Speaker 3: nobody's upset. You're singing downs.
Speaker 1: Just I'll just break out shower when I'm cooking like.
Speaker 3: That, like you're an opera singer. I am man, go down.
Speaker 1: No, My my falsetto is my bravados. I don't know.
Speaker 1: The difference are fucking legendary. I can really, I can lilt.
Speaker 3: Every man thinks they can do a falsetto, and every
Speaker 3: man is wrong.
Speaker 1: I do not think I can thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh really, it's still id of like the I believe
Speaker 2: in a thing called love.
Speaker 3: That's like, that's a very intense version of it. I
Speaker 3: would say, like it's usually when a guy raises his
Speaker 3: voice an unextractive but that's that's almost like a silly
Speaker 3: version of it. Like I don't think, but I think
Speaker 3: a falsetto is more like when a guy sings in
Speaker 3: a high high voice, okay, but sweetly softly, And it's
Speaker 3: still very difficult to do.
Speaker 1: God rewatching mcgoober the other night. I still think every
Speaker 1: time we watch that movie. My favorite bit, the one
Speaker 1: that like I have to pause the movie is when
Speaker 1: he's like, what about your singing career? She's like, it
Speaker 1: can wait?
Speaker 2: Do you just stick rendering the credits. They have that
Speaker 2: whole song christ and Wig and will Porte the rock
Speaker 2: my body that it's incredible.
Speaker 1: Rock rock rock rock rock mine. I also just love
Speaker 1: like it goes on un commented on just her obsession
Speaker 1: with owls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 1: They don't mention it at all, aside from putting a
Speaker 1: ship a ton of them in the in the house
Speaker 1: pays off.
Speaker 2: After you watched it fifty sixty times, you'll notice a
Speaker 2: little there's some very subtle jokes and very not subtle
Speaker 2: jokes in that movie.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, well thank you Alex from Bendigo. That's
Speaker 1: our show. Like I said, fire Escape Cast at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. Get that inbox overflowing like it Tusca Lake
Speaker 1: down the Mississippi, like.
Speaker 3: Dan is a cool ranch in bug snacks, Like.
Speaker 1: Dan's cool ranch puddle in bug snacks. Get that get
Speaker 1: that inbox.
Speaker 3: Oohs, and you're like a banana walking around with your
Speaker 3: wiener out walking through bug snacks?
Speaker 1: Wait, what would yours be?
Speaker 2: Did we? We got?
Speaker 1: We got the puddles, we got the puddle of cool ranch,
Speaker 1: We got the banana. What's yours?
Speaker 2: I don't know your your anthropomorphic banana, human cock, human shiman.
Speaker 3: Dick out of an open banana? Yes, and a puddle
Speaker 3: of cool ranch. No dorito?
Speaker 1: No, I was.
Speaker 3: You have to be clear with your words when I.
Speaker 2: Say cool ranch. Trust me, I'm thinking about a dorito.
Speaker 3: Nobody knows that.
Speaker 1: Oh come on, really, no, I just didn't register. But yeah, Mary,
Speaker 1: what's yours? Quick?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't think about it. I should
Speaker 3: have been on.
Speaker 1: The spot when I came up with banana dick wine bottle.
Speaker 3: I came up with banana dick, sir, Oh you did,
Speaker 3: thank you? Yeah you do mine?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: A cores like can I did not.
Speaker 3: With two legs coming.
Speaker 2: Out of it, with two legs with bowling shoes on,
Speaker 2: and the video patrons are really feasting this week?
Speaker 1: Yep, and and uh and then got any one more
Speaker 1: detail to really sell it stick in people's heads, and
Speaker 1: a dick here and then the head and then yeah,
Speaker 1: a human dick coming out two dicks. I've always wanted to.
Speaker 3: Have two dicks. This is my magical happy place that
Speaker 3: I will go to after the show because I'm allowed
Speaker 3: to go anywhere that I want.
Speaker 1: One one dick.
Speaker 3: You know, we got range.
Speaker 2: You know, we get range as a podcast when we
Speaker 2: can be this. Mugenics humor is a bit.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the pairing list from my trip to a Ruba. Ja.
Speaker 3: Edit this so that we say Musgenics is a little
Speaker 3: distasteful and then say two dicks, one for sucking and
Speaker 3: one for fucking. Maybe Mugenics is perfect.
Speaker 1: It's real good.
Speaker 2: I'm glad it came around.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's nothing wrong with it and it's totally fine.
Speaker 3: Watchcats fucking and given birth.
Speaker 1: Dying. Yeah, if you do want the video version of
Speaker 1: the show, you can go to our Patreon, go to
Speaker 1: firescape cast dot com, or to deep dish Pussy dot com,
Speaker 1: which I did re up. We still have the domain.
Speaker 1: It's a business expense good. You can also get ad
Speaker 1: free episodes, or you can just treat it like a
Speaker 1: tip jar if you appreciate what we do and like
Speaker 1: listening to our normal ad filled episodes. We will be
Speaker 1: back in two weeks. However, before then, Dan, what do
Speaker 1: you have going on in the meantime.
Speaker 2: Giintbomb dot com. Check out the new website. Check out
Speaker 2: we got new stuff going on. We're doing new premium shows.
Speaker 2: We got Abby Russell kicking up her new show any
Speaker 2: day now depending on when you're listening to this, and
Speaker 2: some other stuff very much in the works that we
Speaker 2: look forward to announcing very soon. Maybe even listeners this
Speaker 2: podcast would be particularly interested in.
Speaker 3: Cool. I love Abby. It's awesome to hear her joining
Speaker 3: forces with you guys again, and it's cool that you're
Speaker 3: able to do that for people that really I think
Speaker 3: what's neat about this new version of Giant Bomb is
Speaker 3: like you don't need to like ask for permission. You
Speaker 3: can just be like, we like this person, You're back,
Speaker 3: and I think that's sick.
Speaker 2: We can just pick and yes, we got her doing
Speaker 2: a Tomadauci life dating game show basically, which is I
Speaker 2: feel it's kind of a spiritual successor to yea, yeah, No.
Speaker 2: We're all dating and there are different like good ones
Speaker 2: on the island for us edate that we get more
Speaker 2: points for and bad ones if we date them. And
Speaker 2: then there's also a roving shack Shaquille O'Neal, and he's
Speaker 2: worth the most points if you date Shack. But there's
Speaker 2: also an evil Shack named Shat, and if you date him,
Speaker 2: you lose a bunch of points. So I was really
Speaker 2: put together something special here, and that's gonna.
Speaker 3: Be very special.
Speaker 1: John Bom, Mike, what are you up to? Vinnie and
Speaker 1: I are still playing Total War Warhammer three. I think
Speaker 1: we're getting toward the end of each campaign, but they're
Speaker 1: definitely very, very eventful. We are playing the good campaign.
Speaker 1: He's playing as Imrick and the High Elves and the
Speaker 1: Dragon Collectors. I'm playing as Oxeaddle, the chameleon who goes
Speaker 1: in and out of the realms of chaos and just
Speaker 1: kind of like polices the world that's heating up on
Speaker 1: fire Escape. You'll get that if you're a video patron,
Speaker 1: and if you're not a patron for Nextlander, go do
Speaker 1: so because we are playing a separate also co op
Speaker 1: campaign for Next Lander content as evil characters, and Vinnie's
Speaker 1: being the skull Taker. He's actually really cool. He's one
Speaker 1: of those characters that might convert you. Dan He's not
Speaker 1: going to, but he's a demon with a cape made
Speaker 1: of skulls pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I'm I'll get into Warhammer at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll then you'll have another thing that you were
Speaker 1: resistant to, and then you love.
Speaker 2: I play a little space marine. I'm like, oh wait,
Speaker 2: maybe Warhammer's cool.
Speaker 1: Oh that's sci fi. That's forty k oh gets confusing
Speaker 1: talking fantasy.
Speaker 3: There's just no I'm talking fantasy.
Speaker 2: You can't have any two different things.
Speaker 1: I'll let them know, but we'll be back in two
Speaker 1: weeks with episode one twenty seven of the fire Escape Cast.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3: Also stream on twitch.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mary stream, did I ask you what you
Speaker 1: were doing?
Speaker 2: So you were quiet for an uncomfortable period of time
Speaker 2: since she filled the dead air by asking you what
Speaker 2: you were doing? Is what happened was, yeah, I've clearly
Speaker 2: finished my thing, and then it was dead air for
Speaker 2: like just good four seconds. And Mary's like, how about
Speaker 2: you bike?
Speaker 1: What was I doing looking down? Losing it?
Speaker 3: It's the banana.
Speaker 1: I'm I don't even remember zoning out.
Speaker 2: Oh check the video. You're just like looking down, just
Speaker 2: a marriage the ball.
Speaker 1: Oh I've been playing with this fidgeting You've.
Speaker 2: Had important work, Okay, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Fidgeting with some little toy.
Speaker 1: Oh to do you guys wait, have you have we
Speaker 1: talked about a fidget tool before? Do you guys have
Speaker 1: a fidget tool tools?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Told me about this gimick. Heure.
Speaker 1: I like this guy I got. I got the one
Speaker 1: that's got different things on each side of the cube.
Speaker 2: I've got one of the cubes.
Speaker 1: They're nice and the metal ball is nice. It clicks.
Speaker 1: I like these. I should have had this out. That
Speaker 1: would have been less weird to hold out than this
Speaker 1: cap to a water bottle. Sorry, Mary, What do you
Speaker 1: have going on ice.
Speaker 3: Stream on Twitch? It's 'e the same update as always
Speaker 3: ice stream on Twitch. I will say because I think
Speaker 3: this episode will go up on a Monday. I did
Speaker 3: my first ever Steam collection associated with wholesome games for
Speaker 3: the American Heart Association. So it's February if you all
Speaker 3: are interested. It's only available until the seventeenth. So unfortunately,
Speaker 3: if you see this late, it'll be too late. But
Speaker 3: I'm going to do these again. I think it's cool.
Speaker 3: It's a collection of games. It includes Peak, it includes
Speaker 3: what is it called a Short Hike? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: I love that game Fasmophobia. Anyway, buying those games a
Speaker 3: portion of all the proceeds goes to the American Heart Association.
Speaker 3: Because it is February, it's art month. Heart disease is
Speaker 3: like the leading cause of death worldwide. It's crazy. So, uh,
Speaker 3: this is a good opportunity to buy a game and
Speaker 3: a portion of the proceeds goes to basically the American
Speaker 3: Heart Association. How that was awesome as that anyway, So
Speaker 3: I put together this collection. Maybe we can link to it,
Speaker 3: no obligation, but it's kind of cool that all these
Speaker 3: games they did this on their own accord. We organized it.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Wholesome Games who helped U put it
Speaker 3: together and and and helped me launch this. I'm really
Speaker 3: proud of it.
Speaker 1: Nice cool, that was great anyway, We'll be back in
Speaker 1: two weeks anyway, Bye bye
Speaker 3: U.