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Speaker 1: Good evening, Hugo, evening. We're back with the fire Escape.

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That's not the actual name rhymes with the evening. Why

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did you change it? I'm no, it doesn't no way,

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good evening, hugo.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's what you said, weavening.

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Speaker 1: You could have just end weaving nor No, I do

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actual rhymes. I'm not lazy, no low hanging fruit. I'm

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your host as always. Michael Maharty here with Dan Riker.

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Speaker 2: Yes that's me.

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Speaker 1: I and Mary Kish I'm also here. Uh well, one

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of these days I'll get it without you interrupting Dan.

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But until until the.

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Speaker 2: Discover a better there's got to be a better interest.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry. Hi everyone, welcome back to our podcast

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about video games.

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Speaker 2: This is worse.

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Speaker 1: What do you do a good one?

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Speaker 2: I don't do interest because I had's too much pressure.

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I don't like the host podcast. I just respond to

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things on them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's way more fun to not host, like yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Just kind of sit there and respond to stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's great for those days when I went on the

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Beast Cast and Vinnie did all the heavy lifting.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, Vinnie was real good of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was really good.

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Speaker 2: But Vinnie rest in peace.

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Speaker 1: Dan, you're looking super tan. No not no, it's my

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segue into Ruba.

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Speaker 3: And we all know that Dan goes to tan his

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buns off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually I did lay around outside. I went to

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the went to the Flamingo Island. I don't know if

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you know about that in a Ruba it's just.

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Speaker 1: Like shaped like a.

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Speaker 2: Flamingo's running around everywhere. It's great.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 2: I just lay in a beach chair for like five

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hours and flamingos running around and drinking cocktails. It was great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was just uh for the Minnesota winters. Obviously, they

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get real rough, and typically like February is about the

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worst time because it's just like it's been long enough

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that you're so fucking ready for it to be over,

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but there's still a good amount left and you're in

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like the deep freeze part of it. So I think

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Bonk and I decided we want to start, like you know,

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frequently doing like a Ruba trips, like maybe every year.

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Speaker 3: In February May Aruba. Why not, like just because you

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know a lot of birds fly south for winter, but

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you guys are specifically choosing Aruba.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we went in twenty twenty two and maybe we were,

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so we just want to go someplace warm, you know,

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And we found this and heard a lot of people

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saying great things about it, and we loved it so

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much that we're like, well, we could try different ones.

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We could try Dominican Republic or Jamaica or Bermuda or whatever,

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but we fucking love Aruba. So I think we're just

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going to keep doing that. And this was even better

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in the first time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I been into a Ruba twice. It's but as

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a child.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's probably different than how we spent it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, back in the day when my dad worked at

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it doesn't really matter, but I probably probably Procter and Gamble.

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to get crazy kickbacks and the government just looked the

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other way. And one of the I feel like I

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can tell the story now because he's retired. I don't

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think they'll come for him.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a statute of limitations on stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: For the record, So he murdered a guy. I think

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I think that back then, if you sold enough, they

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would be like, and you win a trip to Aruba

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with the family of four, a major award, And so

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he won it two years once. I was like probably seven,

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so I have like no memories of this trip. But

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business trip, and they told me when I was much older,

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didn't pay a dime. Like that's so sick, but also

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like kind of crazy that you're allowed to do that

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as an old you know, like as a as a

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working salary man.

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Speaker 1: God, I missed the eighties. Those you could do you.

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Speaker 3: Could wait with all sorts of crazy shit back.

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Speaker 1: Then, back then, before before the country realized how much

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damage it was doing to itself economically. I don't know

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enough about the eighties to talk intelligently about it. I

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wasn't even alive during the eighties, but I feel like

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I want to fit in in the eighties.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, eighties, dude, don't you like you just look

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Speaker 1: Finally someone said it. Been going for that for like

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Speaker 2: No, I've been thinking it. I didn't say it, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: New York City stockbroker from the eighties with acts to

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grind and you know, just a pension for fucking like

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just ready to go at any minute.

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Speaker 1: Company card ready to fucking slam down on some sick bordos.

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Speaker 3: Looking for a man in finance. Yeah, I think that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But now, uh no, I was speaking of eighties. I

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watched We watched mcgroober again recently and Roadhouse literally it's safe.

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Speaker 2: God bless you, God bless you. Yeah. You texted me

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that while I was in the Rooby I think, and

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I was like, yeah, you're You're my favorite couple. That's

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the greatest thing.

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a week, so like, let's watch I don't want to watch,

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movies we hadn't caught up on from twenty twenty five,

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like what about like not Train Dreams, but like not

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that vibe. We're like, let's do mcgroober.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to cry tonight, honey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that got us in the mood for Roadhouse the original.

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I have not seen the Jake Jillen Hall want.

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Speaker 2: You can skip it. It's it's not it's not a

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nightmare or anything, but it's not worth it. There's no

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reason to watch when you could just watch the first

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Speaker 1: So awesome.

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Speaker 2: We we watched something right before Ruba. That wound up

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being funny because, uh I going into a Ruba, it

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was like, all right, it's so cold. It's February, and

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a couple of bargoed games that it's like, oh man,

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enough before I go on vacation. I want to be

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able to record this quick. Look, I want to do this.

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It was Mario Tennis. It was embargoed at the time,

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and I watched. If I had legs, i'd kick you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I've seen it. It's I'm interested

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what you think. I have an opinion about it.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. It was like uncut gems for like

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stressed moms. So but it was basically it's like the

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like it's like Uncut Gems levels of stress and insane

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stuff she's dealing with for a week. And I watched

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that and it really kind of reframed my complaints of

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like it's kind of cold and I don't know if

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I'm going to have time to play Mario tennis before

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Speaker 3: You don't need to watch a horrible person existence to

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know that you are the most privileged boy.

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Speaker 2: This is a stark reminder of like, okay, this isn't

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maybe stress is a relative term.

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Speaker 1: You know, don't yet I'm so whoed.

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Speaker 2: Grow up.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a miserable film. I did not care

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for it, and I think it's I think it's a

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masterclass in storytelling. I think it's well done. She's she's

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an excellent actress. My complaints are not about the direction,

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the story, the acting, all of that phenomenal. My problem

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is is I don't want to watch the saddest woman

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in existence for two and a half hours slowly, like

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want to die. It's a really hard watch. And like

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Uncut Gems is not that it is just like what's

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gonna happen next. Oh my god, he's gonna get caught.

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Oh my gosh, that girls like trying to have sex

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with him. Oh my god, he's gambling too much. All

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of this is like exciting hers. It's just like, Gem, God,

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this woman can't even drink a bottle of wine. Her

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daughter's dying right in front of her, and she's like

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wasting away.

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Speaker 2: It's trying drugs on the dark web with her like

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apartment neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Miserable.

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Speaker 1: That sounds it told me.

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Speaker 2: It is, like, yeah, I guess I'm cut. Gems is

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like a movie movie with like you know, big, larger

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than life characters, and this is just like, oh, realistic

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problems that people can very realistically go through. You're just watching.

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Speaker 3: Every day, and like a shit, it's like shit, healthcare system.

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Speaker 1: Shit.

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Speaker 3: She like can't get like someone to fix a fucking

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she's staying in a shitty hotel and like no one

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will fix it. And it's just this miserable story.

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Speaker 2: But O'Brien is your therapist.

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Speaker 3: He's not funny at all, not at all, And that

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shit pissed off because she opens the door. She's upset,

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she's crying about her shitty life on a couch and

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she's got a therapist and the camera slowly pans up

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and it's Conan O'Brien and I literally went yay, he's

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probably gonna do something wacky and absolutely plays a straight,

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straight laced, no funny, no sas guy the entire time.

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It's a serious tone film. And every scene with him,

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he's like, you got to get out of here. You

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can't handle this right now. And it's just like, where

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the fuck are you to take a serious role with

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that face?

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Speaker 2: Jeez, wow, he is a clown.

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Speaker 3: We know this. He was ridiculous. The joke when he

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takes photos is people are like, man, I didn't even

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know lesbian could do that, Like he just looks like

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redheaded lesbian. He does not do the scissor cut mood.

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He doesn't do any of his he doesn't do any

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of his signature lines. It is it is ripping me

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from my awareness of what I thought of, like there

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was just no comedic relief what at.

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Speaker 2: The end though, it's it's a great thing, like, man,

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we have kids. That seems great.

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Speaker 3: Fucking nuts so that I can't believe it. I think

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it's interesting that we have such different.

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Speaker 1: Getting a dog.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just like a window into like I

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think I enjoy is a weird word, I guess, but

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it was like it was it's just like an eye

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open and thing of like, oh man, I bet some.

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Speaker 1: Lives are really like that's it.

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Speaker 2: How do people do that? You know, Like she's dealing

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just her life's horrific. Is an extremely stressful life, and

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a stark reality of how tough life can be, especially

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for like caregivers. But god, I would never watch it again.

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Speaker 2: No, I bonk and I agreed on that too, or

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so we both enjoyed it, but it's like, and we

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would recommend it to people, but I cannot imagine being

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like I'm at the mood to watch if I had

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legs tonight. You like, yeah, it's like that's a one

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Q we am.

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Speaker 3: For a dream if it just focused on one sad

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fucker for the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and no double sided dildo, which is like, no.

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Speaker 2: Conan goes to town.

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Speaker 3: All right, now that's funny. I'm back in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wow, I can stretch that wide. It's my first

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time I ever tried Conan O.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Mike. I promised Mary I'd keep this part short

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here and for the viewers, promised that we're gonna do

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lightning round style here. Okay. I thought of you a

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lot when I went to this place called it's my

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favorite restaurant. They're called Two Fools in a BOWLT And

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it's a prefixed type thing where it's like like, you know,

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fifteen people can get in a night and it's this

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hours long thing where there's courses and they take you

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out and during a campaign and it's just like a hole.

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It's your whole night basically, and you can do the

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reserve wine pairing, which is like the super nice wines

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apparently as they sold it to us. But the whole

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time I'm thinking, like I got to hear what Maharty

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has to say about. Okay, so I'm going to list

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some of the wines I tasted. I forget what I

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paired it with, and you just give me a one

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sentence rundown.

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Speaker 1: All right, Okay, Okay, Yeah, there's a chance I don't

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even know where some of them are from, but I'll

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do my best.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're gonna look like a horse's ass if that's

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the case. Test test seller selection dom Perion Champagne twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: Oh, don Perion, that's a good champagne. Yeah, okay, it's yeah,

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it's always very very solid champagne. Is it a good

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year twenty twelve? You said, yeah, I believe it was

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a cooler year, probably higher like lifted laser acid as

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opposed to rich Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, okay. Casanova Danieri, Brunello di Montalcino Carolato, Tuscany

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twenty fifteen. Brunello Brunelo.

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Speaker 3: Wait, that was one wine.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking at on this mirror. Ready, h

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first the first two words, Casanova Danari, Brunello.

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Speaker 1: Casanova Denar. Yeah, Brunello's Southern Tuscany. It's like lower elevation

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sangives a full bodied probably oh literally has to spend

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has to spend five years aging before they even release

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it to the public.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Baron, I have a reserved Napa Valley twenty seventeen cats.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Katy, I've never had that. I've had their sparkling.

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They're more famous for their sparkling or no, no, no, I'm sorry,

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that's uh. I'm thinking of Shamsburg. Yeah, Baringer, it's a

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classic Napa cab Tomahawk rock. That's also Napa.

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Speaker 3: I isn't that dumb?

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Speaker 1: Napa?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ron Diamond Selection Napa Valley twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, they really went hard on Napa after the

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first one. Oh wow, Okay, so that's what porn Three

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Palms Vineyard, Okay, Napa Valley on like all these if

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you had a glass of opus one, that's that's good.

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One of the like the o G First Growth Bordeaux

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's good though, so are these?

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Speaker 2: So? Are these good? Were these good? Are they blown smoke?

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Speaker 1: Okay no, no, no, it's it's a very very if

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like if if it sounds like you got your money's worth,

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there's no crazy, Well yeah, that's very true. I guess

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it was.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was very for all those and like

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it's like.

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Speaker 1: Are all pricey wines for the most part if you

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were to get them by the bottle, So I'm sure

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like I'm probably a three ounce or something that that

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sounds like a great list, yes, okay, no surprises, but

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like that's not I don't think that's what most people

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that are looking for. It's a it's a good list, Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like I like the prefix thing. That is the

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first place I've done that at and I really liked

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it a lot.

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Speaker 3: Play fixes too, because I like the idea that I

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don't have to make a decision. I like the idea that,

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like a chef somewhere is like, this is what you

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want and you'll like it, And I'm like, yes, sir, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You would never order it, but I like, yeah, stuff

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you would never order off a menu, and one if

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it was like salmon cheesecake or something or something weird

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like that, and I was like, I would never fucking

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order that off a menu. But it's like you just

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put your trust and then it's like, Okay, these people

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are really good at what they do, and then you

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eat it's like, yep, I never would have ordered that,

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but that was incredible. I've never tasted anything like that

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in my life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's yeah, some of my favorite places. And I

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was just I was just talking to someone who's going

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to Dublin in the beginning of April, and I was like, oh,

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I have a couple of recommenations if you need them,

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and we were on a work call with them and

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they're like, no, yeah, immediately I would love some. And

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it was funny because I think I had two of

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my favorite meals in a long long time back to

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back nights in Dublin. The first one was Delear Street.

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It was a Michelin star restaurant. It's wine pairing. It

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was a prefeed like everything you were just talking about

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really good wines, like knowledgeable somi a staff. It was awesome.

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It was great, but it was very much like sit

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at the chef's counter watch them make this stuff. They'll

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tell you all about it. The next night, I had

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what I think is still my favorite meal I've ever

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had in my life, and it was at this pub

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called spiden Now it was at this pub called Spidal

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Fields in Dublin as well, just down the road from

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Delar Street. And we got the kakaaliki pie I think

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I talked about it before, and the beef cheek and

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oxtail stuffed rolls basically Parker House rolls stuffed with red

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meat and just like baked. And then of course I

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had a few guinnesses and it was one of the

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best meals of my life.

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Speaker 2: The gimmick that all of their food sounds dirty and

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the stuff and chy. Yeah, shut the sausage in the

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rolls and I'll take one kkaiki please.

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Speaker 1: I was horny when I got home. A manage and

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see it coming.

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Speaker 4: Kill.

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Speaker 1: She can hear me right now. It was really good.

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Speaker 3: You can hear off Mike going.

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Speaker 2: Door, shut feet going downstairs, car tires peeling out.

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Speaker 1: I get serve papers from somebody. Those waits, Oh yeah,

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does sound like a good wine list, Dan and Uh,

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I'm looking forward to Uh. I've got some travel coming up.

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It's pretty hectic schedule, but it's generally to places where

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I know to be good food. I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm going to Brazil for the first time

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in April, and so if anyone listening has Brazil recommendations,

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let me know. I'll be going there solo. Is it

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for BGS? Game's gone lam?

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Speaker 1: Oh gotcha?

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, and go check that out.

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Speaker 1: And there's red meat in Brazil. Do a lot of vegetables.

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Speaker 2: That's a shame. Yeah, yeah, I remember the Brazilian steakhous

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we went to and there's just no meat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no meat.

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Speaker 1: And like shish kababs with specifically much Yeah, you're gonna

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come back.

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Speaker 3: Brazilian steakhouse? Really what it is? Or is it like

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going to outback steakhouse where it's like we just decorated

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this as if it is Australia.

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Speaker 1: Like as much as I love that, like much as

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I love fog at the show, I don't think it's

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indicative of Brazil proper.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's good though.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'll crush it. I love it, But like yeah.

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Speaker 2: I never liked that argument. It was taco bell is

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not real Mexican. I fucking know, are you kidding me?

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Like taco Bell, I don't think it's authentic.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I didn't like wake up like

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those nights or those days during GDC in the past

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and say I would love an authentic Brazilian experience, And

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I am like, I just want to go somewhere where

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they have a giant hunk of meat they're gonna shave

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on my plate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bring a sort of meat and say tell us

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when you're done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I think it is kind of the

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outback of Brazil.

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Speaker 3: And you walk around if you have a little green

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shirt on, people just keep feeding you while you're walking around.

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You to change into your red shirt so that they

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leave you alone.

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Speaker 2: I like the idea of doing it that way.

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Speaker 1: Is that a thing they do? You have the coaster thing?

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Speaker 2: The coaster for lipping it over, Like, is like I

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stop throwing well.

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Speaker 3: Mike, who's uncultured? Now?

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Speaker 1: You put on.

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Speaker 2: That would be great for the actual walking down the

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street experience in Brazil. I get it. Yes, Yes, it's hot,

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it'll cald you, it's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Just dodging me story in my life.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we all have a lot of travel

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coming up. I'm okay for a little bit, but uh,

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I think it's going to pick up in March because

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I think there is a packs No, yeah right.

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Speaker 2: I'll be there, Yes, Tex East Boston. Yes, yeah, one

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near anniversary of a GB going independent.

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Speaker 3: That's a big deal for you, isn't it? Going back?

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Because that was very stressful speaking of uncut gems, every

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Giant Bomb member at Pasia's last year was like watching

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someone having a heart attack. They were all on their

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phones all the time. Everyone was sweaty and upset, and it.

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Speaker 2: Was doing like docu signs that day.

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Speaker 3: It was a crazy experience. Nobody really knew if it

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was going to be okay or not. That was the truth.

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Speaker 2: Fucking every single person. They're understandably sees you walking on

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the show floor and they're coming up with like condolences

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because there was some negative Giant Bomb news in just

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the days prior. Hey, really, sorry, what's going on. I

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just had to be like, ah, hey, come to the panel,

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you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like trying to work on your cry face

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when you're smiling. Yeah, it is hard. Mike, are you

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crying or laughing? Are you where's sad?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like to know day he's worried?

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Speaker 2: Actually it'd be great.

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Speaker 1: I cry morning in the shower, and she tends to

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get worried like that. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to wonder if Boss is an asshole

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my cat, because I know I think he's not an asshole.

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I think he's just shy. But like you know, we

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go to Aruba and the hotel had these cats that

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just like walk around, you know, they're just like hotel cats,

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and they just kind of like go outside like the

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pool area, they walk around, they just sleep in chairs.

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They're super chill, and like you can just walk by him,

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they'll start yelling at you and like lay down and

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like you know, taking pets and stuff like that. And

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Boss is so like stand offish, and we'll just kind

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of like, oh, if he's in the mood, yeah, you

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can maybe come up and pet him for a little bit,

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but he'll probably run away. If we have guests over,

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he's always hiding ountder the bed and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: If you look at Boss, he usually like stoffs and

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walks away.

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Speaker 1: He was he was giving it up for me when

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I was there. But yeah, I think a lot of

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those cats, I will say, are also probably friendly with

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people because people feed them. Oh but yeah, I mean

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like we've been to several places in like Santimillion and

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uh where else have we been where the cats are

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00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,920
extremely friendly? Yeah, just generally those very old quiet towns

470
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,279
in France where nothing crazy has happened for hundreds of years.

471
00:21:16,319 --> 00:21:18,519
If that, I think they're just it's a common place

472
00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:20,839
where people feed them. They kind of just live out.

473
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,119
It's pretty temperate weather all year, so they don't have

474
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,279
to worry about a lot of stress really fending for

475
00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:25,839
their lives.

476
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there are roosters running around too, And you

477
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,680
know you're growing up watching cartoons and stuff, you think

478
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,319
they they do the cock of doodle do once when

479
00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:37,559
the sun rises and then that's it for the day.

480
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,640
Turns out just all fucking day cocka doodle do in

481
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,720
the day away and looking it up and it's just like,

482
00:21:43,759 --> 00:21:45,839
oh yeah, it's not a stirting dominance. So there's just

483
00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:52,680
this one fucking rooster walking around the hotel every day.

484
00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: Am.

485
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: He's like a church bells. I liked in Key West

486
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,480
as well. I'll be back in Key West in a

487
00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:05,440
few weeks, which I'm excited for because I like it

488
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,319
down there. But yeah, no, there's there's just like a

489
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,400
fucking herd of them that walk around outside screaming first

490
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,519
thing in the morning, but then yeah, by like three

491
00:22:13,599 --> 00:22:15,559
pm it usually trails off to one or two of

492
00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:17,319
them that are still horny or whatever they're doing.

493
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a horny dominance thing. Yeah, there's just like

494
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,400
roving packs of dogs too, which, like you know, we

495
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,960
would walk we were kind of staying in like a

496
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,720
central island area, but you could walk to the downtown.

497
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,680
It's like a twenty minute walk and it's like everything

498
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,880
room is a very safe island. But it's like I did,

499
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,440
it could be paused a couple times where it's like, oh,

500
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,839
there's just a pack of six or seven not small

501
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,279
dogs and they are barking and running up to people

502
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,519
and stuff like God, are we just gonna get mauled

503
00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:45,039
by dogs?

504
00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: And this like relaxing vacation that that would be terrible.

505
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like it's that. I wonder should I have

506
00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:52,279
been scared by that? It seemed it seemed like a

507
00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:53,119
scary situation.

508
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,839
Speaker 3: It's it is like a slight risk. I will always

509
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,920
like as a dog lover, will always be like no,

510
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,759
but like dogs have no owner like.

511
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: That in collars, feral pups some of them.

512
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: Some of them are probably like just random running around pups.

513
00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:13,839
Speaker 2: Some they had collars though, but yeah, they were just

514
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,400
running around.

515
00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 3: You can take a little snip of you, so you

516
00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:18,920
have to have a little caution with that.

517
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure they might not be up to date with

518
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,160
their shots.

519
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: I bet you. There's an app on your phone that

520
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,400
has like the whistle tone that dogs don't like, and

521
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,519
you could probably play it on your phone in case

522
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,039
you get scared and they'd get like they'd run away.

523
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: It has the adverse effect that just pisses them off

524
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,559
and they moll you more quickly.

525
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,319
Speaker 2: No, it just makes them super horny.

526
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 3: It's just an app that goes here.

527
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: Boy, I would pay so much money to watch a

528
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,079
horny pack of dogs just chase Dan around a room buff.

529
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: For an sprinting and sweating with dogs chasing me.

530
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: Of home alone.

531
00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: No, that didn't happen like that.

532
00:24:05,319 --> 00:24:08,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, Mary, what have you been up to?

533
00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 3: I've been working a lot on some work trips that

534
00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:16,599
we have coming up. I wish I like I think

535
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,480
I went out to dinner too, and I think of

536
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:21,680
like if I had any cool stories of fancy things

537
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,400
that I've done, but I haven't really traveled. But I

538
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,839
did go to a Thai restaurant and I was excited

539
00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:32,519
because it feels like it's like one of those more authentic,

540
00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:36,359
like really nice Thai restaurants. And they had they had

541
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,519
like a what do you call it? They had an

542
00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:42,920
alcoholic drink and it was called a Roselle slushy and

543
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,880
I was like, oh, that sounds good, like a slushy

544
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,640
that tastes like rose rose or something. Anyway, I got

545
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,720
it and it didn't taste like rose at all. And

546
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:57,200
so I always get nervous doing this because I don't

547
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,319
want to ever complain. But I was like, maybe this

548
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,640
is somebody else his drink because it doesn't taste like

549
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,839
rose at all. And so I flagged down the waiter

550
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,559
and I said, hey, I'm so sorry. I just want

551
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:08,559
to make sure that this is supposed to be my

552
00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:12,680
drink because I ordered the Roselle and it's pretty fruity.

553
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,880
And he said he leaned in he goes, Roselle is

554
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,160
tie for hibiscus, and then he walked away, and I went, oh,

555
00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:24,599
I'm a dumb shit, and I.

556
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: Like white white Godzilla strikes again.

557
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I had like my little straw and I

558
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,759
was like, oh, it was very good. But I realized, like,

559
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:36,279
I don't know anything about this place, and I need

560
00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:40,200
to stop complaining or asking questions. I wasn't trying to complain,

561
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,680
but obviously it came across like I was.

562
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: And you're only gonna call it roselle from now on

563
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,960
when you get hibs.

564
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: I think the next time somebody has a drink that

565
00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:51,599
has hibiscus in it, I'm going to lean in and

566
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,799
go in tie it's called roselle, and I'm gonna sound

567
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,599
really smart.

568
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,799
Speaker 2: And you should complain to the waiter when it's called

569
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:00,359
hibiscus that it doesn't taste rose.

570
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:02,599
Speaker 3: They're going to turn around and it's gonna be that

571
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,960
same waiter. He's gonna be like, you, stupid, ignorant lady.

572
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,519
Speaker 1: I remember that game came out on Switch and everybody

573
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:12,240
was correct in each one another is like, it's could

574
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,880
pronounce grease. It's Spanish for gray.

575
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:15,839
Speaker 2: I do remember that.

576
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: Ye remember that was happening. One specific person did it.

577
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,079
It wasn't actually multiple people.

578
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 3: I remember when I had my trip to Bartholona.

579
00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:29,319
Speaker 1: Living in Bartholona, I said my third my third stag

580
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:35,039
and Ibitha. It was wonderful. Had some had some cores, lattes,

581
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:41,359
had some VODs. But yeah, no, it's uh. I'm I'm

582
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,720
going back to places I've been. I'm doing Stockholm, Paris,

583
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,920
Key West is for leisure, and then there's one more,

584
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,480
oh l A.

585
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 3: So are they all connected or do you go home?

586
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,079
Speaker 1: Key West and Paris are connected, but the other two

587
00:26:57,079 --> 00:27:01,559
are breaks in between. I'm excited for the breaks. Yeah,

588
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:03,240
I'm looking forward to Stockholm again. I think we have

589
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,440
a few listeners in Stockholm. I liked it a lot.

590
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,480
I went there like almost exactly two years ago and

591
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,759
loved it even this time of year.

592
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 3: It's been a minute. My dad got me a cool gift.

593
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:18,400
He got me a cork board globe with pins so

594
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:21,359
that I could put pins in all of the places

595
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,519
that I visited. I thought it was actually quite thoughtful,

596
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,000
and I spent last night putting pins in different different

597
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,319
countries and different cities that I've visited. I'll go downstairs

598
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,640
and get if you guys want to see, because actually

599
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,440
think it's a cool shot.

600
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,319
Speaker 2: I think that's really cool. I think I'm going to

601
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,160
buy one because I've always loved globes and maps and everything,

602
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,440
and that's a fun kind of like personalization on that. Yeah.

603
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very personal to put the pin in. But

604
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,279
I also recognized I was testing myself a little bit

605
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:51,039
because anytime I was like, oh, yeah, I'd been to Majorca,

606
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:53,039
I was like, where the fuck is that? I'm like

607
00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:56,039
looking for it because it's an island, it's very small,

608
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,960
and I was like, I don't know where this is.

609
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,279
And I was like embarrassing myself, said like having get

610
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,599
my like Google map out to be like, where are

611
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,000
all these places that I've traveled to? It's I can

612
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:08,680
put my little pin in them and and be proud

613
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:08,960
of it.

614
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,799
Speaker 2: I like that, I'm gonna buy one tonight. That sounds great.

615
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool.

616
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

617
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: I thought it was a neat gift, but I will.

618
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,200
I think it is a stark reminder that my geography

619
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:21,640
is not good. I have put all of my points

620
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,240
and other things I have put them into, uh, you know,

621
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,240
leisurely chats with the friends and bowling and gaming and

622
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,440
all of these others. Being an excellent person on planes

623
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,720
Oh my god, I'm so good on a plane, but

624
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:41,759
I cannot remember specifically where cities are in a country ever.

625
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,160
And so someone was like, you were in can I'd

626
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,680
be like yes, They'd be like, now where is that,

627
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200
and I'd be like south, And that's it. That's all

628
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,039
I can tell you.

629
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,759
Speaker 2: I wonder if, like, cause, like there are certain things

630
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:53,599
like with memory and things like that that I'm extremely

631
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,640
good at, like spelling we've talked about for and like

632
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,640
I also like with states and state outlines and even

633
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,480
like you know, remembering capitals and stuff like that. It's

634
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:01,799
been a while since I thought of that, but like,

635
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:03,880
you know, I could easily if I could draw a

636
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,880
map of the US and get all the states exactly

637
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,480
right as far as like where they are and everything,

638
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:08,680
so like that. I don't know if that's just like

639
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,119
a photographic memory thing, because like remembering details of things

640
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,000
or like have me describe the events of a movie

641
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:15,400
I saw two weeks ago, and I probably won't be

642
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,000
able to remember, but I could draw the map pretty

643
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,680
accurately right now. I think that's a word.

644
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: You know, It's a great skill to have, and I'm

645
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,240
a little embarrassed that even when I was doing the

646
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:28,759
United States. I was like, well, I've been to Detroit,

647
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880
and I know Michigan it looks like a glove. But

648
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,039
then I was like, where's Detroit? And I like had

649
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,920
to think about it, and like, I it's embarrassing that

650
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,599
I don't remember specifically where Detroit is in Michigan on

651
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,200
a map. I didn't know exactly where Chicago was in Illinois,

652
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,319
you know what I mean? Like I knew which state

653
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:49,559
it was, but I couldn't remember where in the state

654
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,839
it was. Do you think you could do that without

655
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:52,640
looking it up.

656
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: The city stuff?

657
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think most big ones. I mean definitely all

658
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:58,599
the state placements, but I think most cities.

659
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,799
Speaker 3: Detroit on the the glove.

660
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: Detro it's on the west part of the gloved borders

661
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,519
the one of the Great Lakes that Erie or is

662
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,720
that Detrot's like on the lake right, the Great Lake.

663
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,319
Speaker 1: When you say left, you mean the Upper Peninsula west?

664
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:12,319
Speaker 4: Oh?

665
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: No, yeah, no, on the on the Mitten. It's on

666
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,400
the Mitten.

667
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: It's on the Yeah, it's on the main.

668
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: It's on the west side of the Mitten right like

669
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:20,640
kind of lower lower West.

670
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: It's on Lake Michigan, isn't it.

671
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,079
Speaker 2: That would makes sense. Yeah, am I totally off?

672
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:29,119
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think you're right. It's on or is it

673
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:31,279
it's it's definitely on the lower peninsula, but I'm trying

674
00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:33,559
to remember if it's west or east west side.

675
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,119
Speaker 2: There's like big ones that you know California obviously, like

676
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:39,559
San Francisco is up there, La is down there, and

677
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,720
you got San Diego further down by the Mexico border.

678
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,319
Speaker 3: Do you want to know Detroit it's on the thumb.

679
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, lower west, Yeah, the tracks right, No, it's

680
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,359
lower east the east this way it's closer to like.

681
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,119
Speaker 2: The video listeners are getting a trade right now.

682
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also not even Oh, it's more on Lake Huron.

683
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: I know, I see. And I was like, uh, my

684
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,640
family is from Niagara Falls or the Buffalo area, and

685
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,240
I've been to Niagara Falls more times as a child,

686
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:20,559
like that was where we went. And I was like,

687
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,039
now where are these? Where is this? And I was like,

688
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:27,640
that's embarrassing. You should know exactly where Buffalo is. You

689
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,119
fucking grew up there, like what you been there?

690
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: That would be like, yeah, Detroit, is it not on

691
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:36,119
Lake Michigan whatsoever? It's on part of Lake Erie Lake

692
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,960
Saint Clair.

693
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,559
Speaker 2: With Chicago on Lake Michigan. Like the actual like placement

694
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,920
of the Great Lakes and whether Heuron Erie, Michigan.

695
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,559
Speaker 1: Ontario and Superior, Okay and lakes is so misleading. Have

696
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:50,680
you guys ever like spent time on them.

697
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: Like you see the other side.

698
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's what was the I was looking at

699
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,680
a stat it was like, mathematically, if you took every

700
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,480
single person on Earth and put them shoulder to shoulder

701
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,160
in Lake Superior, you still would not fill.

702
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,319
Speaker 2: It' that's not like you got to come up with

703
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:08,960
a new word for that.

704
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's many ocean.

705
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: There's ocean, there's sea. I think that's the sea is

706
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,640
basically many ocean, right, and then you got to just

707
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,920
call the Great Lakes the Great seas. Yeah, they're probably

708
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,319
bigger than most seas, right.

709
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: That weaves, they're bigger than many seas. Yeah, for sure,

710
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,119
they're huge. They're also it's not the if you're looking

711
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,799
at like most world maps, what determines what.

712
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,319
Speaker 3: The lake is? Is it who finds it?

713
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:33,079
Speaker 2: Fresh water?

714
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's completely enclosed fresh water.

715
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:38,319
Speaker 2: Or seas or saltwater, I assume, right.

716
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, see these are the things that I think

717
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:47,039
of when I look at my cork globe and realize

718
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:47,559
that I am.

719
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,079
Speaker 1: But then you got bays and harbor's like harbor's I know,

720
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,319
is an actual harbor is more an indication of its

721
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,960
economic purpose than it's actually Sure, I.

722
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: Got the type thing. Here's a dumb question I've never

723
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,519
thought of before. Okay, seas, lakes, oceans, like all that stuff.

724
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,640
They're all bodies of water. Obviously, oceans much much bigger.

725
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,319
Now are you saying that are seas always salt water?

726
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:13,319
I believe so, but I could be very wrong. Okay,

727
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:15,559
so a sea is like a big ass lake. So

728
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,480
what is the thing initially when it was formed that

729
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,200
makes one of them continue to be salt water and

730
00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:25,119
other ones continue to not? Like why does Lake Michigan

731
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,200
have fresh water in it? And like what's the famous

732
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,279
like the Red Sea has salt and it just stays

733
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:31,720
that way? Or how is it because the way.

734
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,799
Speaker 1: They were seas? So I think crucially, seas are always

735
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:36,599
connected to the ocean. That's where the salt comes from.

736
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,279
They are connected, yes, Oh, like if you look at

737
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,720
the Sea of Japan, it's technically part of the Pacific

738
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,839
Ocean that like, or if you look at this the

739
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:49,640
red sea like lakes. Also, like if the finger Lakes specifically,

740
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,039
I know we're not talking about the Finger Lake. We're

741
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:52,920
talking about the gret Lakes. But finger lakes are glacial

742
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,839
cavities which I believe like happened during massive floods like

743
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,519
the Missourian flood, Missoula floodback millions of years ago, that

744
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,279
like basically created all the lakes in Minneapolis and the

745
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:08,880
north the Midwestern United States, and like a lot of

746
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,519
the freshwater came from those. But I believe seas are

747
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:13,719
always connected to the ocean, hence the salt.

748
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: Then why isn't okay, the Mississippi River is connected to

749
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:18,519
the ocean. Why is that not salt?

750
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: It flows into the ocean, doesn't come from the ocean.

751
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:27,519
So okay, going out Missisipi River? Where's that up coming from? Which?

752
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,440
Which great lake is it? Isn't it starting?

753
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 2: A great lake started? I'm looking at it goes way

754
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,800
up thirty five here? Uh is this it?

755
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: Do you want me to get my.

756
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: Globe Google maps? Where the fuck does it goes all

757
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,440
the way up to Minneapolis? And then where the fuck

758
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,159
does it go Mississippi River? Okay, it's keep going up,

759
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,079
is going all the way to Canada. The big fucking river.

760
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's most of that gets its water, Dan,

761
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:55,400
Get this. It gets its water from its headwaters at

762
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,920
Lake at Tasca in Minnesota, fed by springs, lakes and rainfall,

763
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,800
and then collects water in your water dam So down.

764
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,679
Speaker 2: In Kansas City, when I were down by Saint Louis

765
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:08,880
where the Mississippi River goes through, that's Minnesota lake water.

766
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,400
I'm looking at.

767
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,199
Speaker 1: Uh in large part you have, but also rainfall and springs,

768
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:14,519
like underground springs, et cetera.

769
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: At Sweet Sweet Minnesota.

770
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,199
Speaker 1: Blue you're just swimming up.

771
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: There are so many things that just happen every day

772
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,840
that you just never think about, and then you hear

773
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,679
what they come from, and that's interesting.

774
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: I like not to bring it back to wine again,

775
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,079
but honestly, studying wine, I'm looking at maps most of

776
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:33,360
the time. I'm reading about shit like how certain like

777
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:39,559
countries formed from some like some tectonic collision that happened

778
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:41,360
millions of years ago, and that like all of a sudden,

779
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400
the Jurassic Period starts to make more sense because it

780
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,960
deposited certain soil types and like half of the my

781
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,320
wine studying is maps and like of different sorts like

782
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,519
soil maps or rainfall patterns.

783
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: This shit is crazy. I'm looking at Lake of Tasca

784
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,320
now and it is not a large lake, not even

785
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,360
by like Minnesota standards. Really, how is this tiny ass

786
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,719
little lake filling up a river that goes across the entire.

787
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: Country gathering as it goes, ma'am?

788
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: So it's not all starting.

789
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,639
Speaker 1: There's tributary is tributary streams? Oh okay, okay, like the

790
00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:17,320
headwaters is not all the water that just pours through

791
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,400
like you're pouring it from a bottle. There's tributaries from

792
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,880
other sources and springs and other connecting rivers and lakes.

793
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,599
Speaker 3: Tributary I'm into that.

794
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:37,079
Speaker 2: Yeahs a Rivet inlets, maybe.

795
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: The tiny bay like tiny lagoon and inland you know, yeah,

796
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:45,360
Rivet City and three right, yeah, held together metal.

797
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 3: There's like an always sunny thing where he like points

798
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,760
at the door and he's like, listen, we gotta watch

799
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,800
out for that pirates.

800
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:57,039
Speaker 1: A pirate? Private?

801
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it the door that's says private? Is

802
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,920
that the door you're thinking of?

803
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: And then he tries to get in with his own apartment.

804
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,199
Ke He's like I figured there was a shot. It's

805
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:08,480
like a one in one hundred million.

806
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: A lot of things are just really interesting once you

807
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:16,199
learn how they happen. Yeah, man, I knew.

808
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but look while you're doing it, can you look up,

809
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,760
like what constitutes the sea?

810
00:37:21,559 --> 00:37:26,159
Speaker 2: Yeah? I believe they're all type of what constitutes a sea? Okay?

811
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,480
Well the google a eye that pops up first is

812
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,480
a large body of saltwater, typically smaller and shallower than

813
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,760
an ocean, partially enclosed by land, and usually located with

814
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,719
where the ocean meets land. While connected to the global ocean,

815
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,199
they are often on the margins of continents, though some,

816
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,239
like the Sargasso Sea, are defined by ocean currents. Partial enclosure,

817
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,400
enclosure Yeah, okkay, brilliant. Yeah, what's your favorite sea? I

818
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:51,840
don't have.

819
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: Also, there are way more than seven. The pirate things

820
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,559
were bullshit.

821
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:56,679
Speaker 2: No, pirates were dumbasses.

822
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, who's the travel of the world and the

823
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:01,639
seven seas? Well, you got like three hundred to go, Man,

824
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:07,400
write another song when you get that any Lenox. Yeah, Annie,

825
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,480
i've ever seen a sea's I've never seen I didn't

826
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,039
see an ocean until I was like working a game

827
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,639
informer you must have seen us.

828
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,199
Speaker 3: I agree. Growing up in the golf mostly in Ohio,

829
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,800
I feel like I just didn't get to see a

830
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800
lot of ocean. Wasn't something I saw?

831
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kansas certainly not. We don't want to go on

832
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,320
family vacations or anything ever, so like I never saw shit.

833
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,679
Speaker 1: I guess New Orleans is sort of connected to the

834
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,400
golf through the.

835
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,519
Speaker 2: Swamps New Orleans. I've definitely seen the golf. Yeah, yeah,

836
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:36,360
that is connected.

837
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: But uh see, I'm trying to think if I've seen this,

838
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:42,639
I've seen the Sea of Japan. Actually, no, I would

839
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:46,440
have seen I would have been on the harbor harbor, right, yeah,

840
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,559
which is technically those are usually fresh water, Like New

841
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,840
York Harbor is still fresh water until a certain point

842
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,840
because the pressure from the east and the HUD center

843
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,400
pushing down against the saltwater.

844
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,159
Speaker 2: Oh right, New Orleans is technically Lake Pontar Train that

845
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:02,679
it borders, which is Mike, you'll know from Double seven

846
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,360
everything or nothing, the motorcycle level that's the big across. Yeah, yeah,

847
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,360
I know that. Yeah, but that does connect to the Gulf.

848
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: Right.

849
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: While on that notehography, do you want to talk about

850
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:22,719
video games? Sure? Oh, God, you fucking so gross.

851
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,639
Speaker 2: That's the endpoint.

852
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:28,039
Speaker 1: I can't okay in on Mary's burp, speaking of we've

853
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:32,159
all been playing Eugenics, Oh boy about it. Finally, Dan's

854
00:39:32,159 --> 00:39:34,440
played the most. Mary played quite a bit as well.

855
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:38,280
I played the least. But uh, nonetheless, because you were talking,

856
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:40,920
you sent us you had a screenshot on Instagram last night.

857
00:39:41,159 --> 00:39:42,239
I could just tell you were farther.

858
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 3: Oh from my I've been trying to take screenshots when

859
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,960
the game makes me laugh out loud. It's happened. It's

860
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,719
happened a lot.

861
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,679
Speaker 2: The dumb cat thing that the dumber the cat is,

862
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,079
the further he goes, Yeah.

863
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: It's called one d Chess. How funny is that? Like,

864
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,000
there's a lot of funny connections in this game where

865
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,840
you can tell that they had fun making this. They

866
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,679
wanted you to laugh. I had I have wigs with

867
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,960
lice in them, and the lice comes out of the

868
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,159
wigs and attack.

869
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: But before before I should lay a foundation, because this

870
00:40:17,079 --> 00:40:19,559
sounds like we should lay the foundation of what it is.

871
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, on a surface, if you removed everything from the

872
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,880
visuals and aesthetics and everything, it's just the most Mike

873
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,280
Maharty ass game. Ever as far as like it is

874
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,679
tiles and tactic.

875
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: Scene, it's disgusting, it's absurd. I can't look away. It's

876
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,239
Mike Maharty.

877
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: I was thinking just the tactical stuff, but then there's

878
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,960
all the Gros stuff on top. I that was the

879
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,239
thing I had to get past. Is like I did

880
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,679
not love the I don't love the humor, I don't

881
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,800
love the tone. I don't love the art style necessarily,

882
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,079
you know, it's like all this stuff that like like

883
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:54,880
for instance, Binding Isaac, Like you know, I played that

884
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,199
a couple times when it first came out. It was

885
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,920
like I just don't really like the whole vibe of

886
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,119
this game, you know, And this felt the same way.

887
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:03,639
And then I started playing it and then I was like,

888
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,760
oh fuck, I'm obsessed with this game. And it absolutely

889
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,000
allowed me to see passed and like almost I almost

890
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,199
it's like it's like a Stockholm Center everything, but like

891
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,880
I find myself like, no, no, I'm fine with everything now.

892
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,400
Like it's not like I'm like cracking up every time

893
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,559
I see a cat anus or something, but like you know,

894
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:21,079
it's I don't.

895
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: But you didn't love it either, did you? Like you

896
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,400
weren't like.

897
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 2: It's inherently a gross game. Like there's a boss fight

898
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,000
against like two basically like anuses on four legs that like.

899
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,559
Speaker 1: Really really really really we should mention this is a

900
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:36,760
turn based tactical game for those who don't know, because

901
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,840
not everybody knows. From Edmond McMillan and the team that

902
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,320
made Super Meat Boy and you mentioned by Nick of Isaac,

903
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,480
they working on this for like twelve years. Longer than that,

904
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:51,599
there's twelve or so they started talking about, but they

905
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:54,159
like scrapped a few things. So now it's as Dan

906
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,519
pinged us in our discord a couple of weeks ago,

907
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:58,880
a few weeks ago, at this point we were just

908
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,039
talking about wanting to talk about it. You know, it's

909
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:05,039
like turn based tactics on tiles with cat breeding in

910
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:05,840
between as well.

911
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the like equivalent of going back to the

912
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:10,960
Hub and Hades is like you go back to this

913
00:42:11,039 --> 00:42:14,079
house where you are, Like the metagame is building out

914
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:16,639
the rooms of the house, buying furniture for the house.

915
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:18,719
That can affect different stats of like the quality of

916
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,800
the stray cats that show up, you know, the frequency

917
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,599
of the breeding, the quality of the newborn kittens and

918
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:24,679
stuff like that. So like you're buying fish tanks and

919
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,719
couches and beds and clocks and stuff to fill this out.

920
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,519
And as you go later in the game, like I

921
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:31,239
wonder if you guys have gotten this far, because like

922
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,840
this is I'm fifty hours in. It says I'm like

923
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,239
twenty percent of the way into the game.

924
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:36,599
Speaker 3: I can't believe that.

925
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: And I'm just now getting this stuff like upgrades where

926
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:42,880
it's like, okay, now you can see the entire family

927
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,360
trees of every cat, meaning and with an icon even

928
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,440
that says if they're inbred or not. So then you

929
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,760
can start doing stuff like you can start literally just

930
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,159
throw the inbred ones and the trash and donate them

931
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:57,440
to these like vendors, or you can like take like yeah,

932
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,360
it's like specifically, here's these two cats that are not

933
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:03,360
in bread and this one has this possibility, this one

934
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,960
has this stat or whatever, and you can you can

935
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,880
put them in like the fuck room, the one that

936
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,360
like you got out you put all the furniture in

937
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,519
that like increases the like fucking and like so you

938
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:12,840
can get way more deliberate with how you're kind of

939
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,199
breeding the cats. So like I'm going to make the

940
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,360
ultimate ranger here or cleric or something like that. There's

941
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,599
different classes based on collars you put on them and stuff.

942
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,960
But like it seems like I still feel like it's

943
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,760
opening up for me fifty hours in.

944
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,559
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy, Barry, you pointed out, I think

945
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,519
like some reviewers were saying they played one hundred and

946
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,599
twenty for the review or something like that. Yeah, just crazy.

947
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: I think it's like long teen and yeah, I think

948
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,920
I'm about twenty five now. I I have enjoyed it.

949
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,320
I feel the same way as you, Dan. I had

950
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,000
to get over the visuals. I don't care for the

951
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:49,400
like sex and birth in two seconds animation.

952
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,119
Speaker 1: Have you changed those?

953
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: Have you seen that?

954
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: No?

955
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: I have changed them to like family friendly, so they're

956
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,039
both just like upside down and like rubbing their backs

957
00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:59,039
against each other like we're kind of funny.

958
00:43:59,159 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 4: Uh.

959
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 3: I want to see it as it's intended. I want

960
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,320
to see the vision just because I don't love it.

961
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:08,159
That's what they made, and I think it's also it

962
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:10,679
was hard for me to get over how disposable the

963
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,800
cats are. So something that I was I learned quite

964
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,440
early on in this game is that once you complete around,

965
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:21,400
even if you're successful, the cats are retired and never

966
00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:25,800
go out again, and so you need to keep them

967
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,119
in the house and have them do it or dispose

968
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:33,760
of them as you said, But they don't go out

969
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,920
on a second adventure.

970
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,039
Speaker 2: Well it's another thing. There is another thing that I like,

971
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:40,840
I don't know how much this stuff falls into spoiler

972
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,880
Like this is like gameplay stuff, but obviously stuff that

973
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,480
like unfolds later.

974
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're worried about that. I don't like to

975
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,079
hear it.

976
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: Like in general, it's not as simple as once they

977
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,840
go on a thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like

978
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:53,880
and it's.

979
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: For twenty five hours, which I would say is a

980
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,440
long fucking time to play a game before you say,

981
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,119
actually you don't know this game. And if I could

982
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,760
just be a hater for two seconds, I don't really

983
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,920
care for any game that takes fifty hours to open up.

984
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,559
I don't think that that like is super fair for

985
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:13,199
my time. And it's quite repetitive as well, for a

986
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,760
game where you're like, you're gonna do the sewers, No,

987
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,920
you do the first alley, then the sewers, then the caves,

988
00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:25,559
and so when they come back from this journey, I

989
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:27,239
have to get a new round of cats and go

990
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,119
back to the alley and start that process over again.

991
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,000
And I had to do that a lot because if

992
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,119
you die, you have to do it all over again. Yeah,

993
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:40,760
I mean, I think generally my thought is I don't

994
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,119
think this game is for me, but I don't hate

995
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,519
this game. I have enjoyed it. It has made me laugh,

996
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:49,119
it has made me I've enjoyed it. I've also found

997
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:52,159
myself playing it and then been like, WHOA, that was

998
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,960
five hours.

999
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1000
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:55,599
Speaker 3: I just sunk five hours into this game.

1001
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,639
Speaker 2: Played it on the planes to and fro like flew By.

1002
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,800
It's like that this is actually an end like treadmill

1003
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,559
game too, because it's like it doesn't require any fast

1004
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:05,400
reflexes or anything like that, so that it's.

1005
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: Been amazing turn Base.

1006
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to argue something you said, Mary,

1007
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,519
because like I feel the exact same way about like

1008
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:14,039
I hate the like, oh, you just got to play

1009
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,280
it for this Assassin's Creed for twenty hours and then

1010
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,880
it gets good, Like I've always hated that shit. It's like,

1011
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,760
I want to enjoy a game. You know. If I'm

1012
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,400
going to put hours and hours in something, I better

1013
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,440
be enjoying some part of it. So like, even though

1014
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,480
I do say there are elements that open up in

1015
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:30,239
things twenty thirty forty hours in, I did enjoy this

1016
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,719
game from the beginning. So it's like I don't want

1017
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,119
people to think like, oh, you got to play it

1018
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:36,880
twenty hours before it gets good. No, it's good right away.

1019
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,760
And what I'm saying is there are these huge kind

1020
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,280
of signpost moments where it's like, oh, I didn't realize that.

1021
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,440
It's just the unfolding of the unfeeling of the onion,

1022
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,639
you know, it's like it's just additive. I think. I

1023
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,000
think it is fun from the beginning and it just

1024
00:46:50,159 --> 00:46:51,960
keeps giving you more and more. And I think that

1025
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:54,239
just like adds to the longevity of the game more

1026
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,800
than it's like you got to play a bunch before

1027
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,159
it's good.

1028
00:46:56,639 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 3: I will acknowledge I I did enjoy the hours that

1029
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,159
I've with this game. It hasn't been a twenty miserable hour.

1030
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:05,559
I just think that generally I am looking for a

1031
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:08,719
little bit more impact with my twenty hours. I would

1032
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,760
have liked to accomplish more. I would have liked to

1033
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,599
see more. I would have liked to build my house

1034
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:16,840
after twenty hours. That being said, I have enjoyed the

1035
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,480
battles that I have come across. I've enjoyed building up

1036
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,880
my cats and giving them crazy outfits, outrageous items that

1037
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,599
are also again funny, cheeky, silly, stupid as hell, and

1038
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,360
changed the gameplay dramatically. Every round has been very different,

1039
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,880
Every battle has been different because my cats are so unique,

1040
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:38,599
so it mixes it up a lot. So I don't

1041
00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:41,599
dislike this game. I just have like a couple qualms

1042
00:47:41,639 --> 00:47:44,480
with it because I'm already not a huge turn based

1043
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,400
game person, so this is something where I had to

1044
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,960
do a lot of adjusting for it.

1045
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:53,079
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah good, I was gonna say yeah, like fifteen

1046
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:55,800
minutes in. I'm very much in that holding pattern no

1047
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,960
pun intended. Before I am going to be on a

1048
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,519
bunch of flights that I'm kind of like, Okay, I

1049
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:01,679
could see this being great on my flights. I'm gonna

1050
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:03,400
wait until I'm traveling and then I want to really

1051
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,719
dive in. I think my last save time I saw

1052
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,880
was like twelve thirteen hours something like that. So I

1053
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,119
really have not played much of this game. In the

1054
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:15,000
grand scheme of things, I will say it's reminding me

1055
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,199
more of like Call to the Lamb, the cadence of

1056
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,679
that game where you come back and you do a

1057
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,199
lot of management stuff and not breeding. Really that's more

1058
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,360
about like religious stuff when you come back to base

1059
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,119
and then going out on those dungeon runs. The dungeon runs,

1060
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,360
and obviously we all know I love turn based stuff.

1061
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,440
I'm not expecting this game to be like full on

1062
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,199
Into the Breach or x COOM. I will say, so far,

1063
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,599
the turn based stuff has not been like all that

1064
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,480
complex yet. But from what Dan You've told me, like

1065
00:48:44,599 --> 00:48:46,880
certain stuff, I think I want to get to the

1066
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,559
point where I feel like most of the complexities are

1067
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:53,079
going to come from the interplay between the breeding and

1068
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,440
the combat, because right now the combat itself is very

1069
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,519
boring to me. That doesn't mean I won't like that.

1070
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:01,400
One of my favorite games the last ten years is

1071
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,599
Wildermuth and the combat and Wildermth is not that it's

1072
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:07,280
it's nothing to write home about if you're a turn

1073
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,920
based tactics fan. However, seeing these characters who like these

1074
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,920
cats come back and they can't go out, they retire,

1075
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,400
but they pass on traits to the next generation, It's like,

1076
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:19,599
I'm pretty positive I'll love that once I start seeing

1077
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,760
it more, and also I've gotten past like the when

1078
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,800
you dispose of the cats and the like the mark

1079
00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:28,719
to send them, just to send them down to the

1080
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,480
all the people living underground who want cats. I keep

1081
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,280
telling myself it's like, it's just like the dump it

1082
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,440
to Crumpet slide that goes up Mount Crumpet in the Grinch.

1083
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:42,519
The cats are not dying, they're going up there. And

1084
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:43,400
then also like.

1085
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 3: The ones that they get them, He's a real gem.

1086
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: In fights, and just one died overnight and like god.

1087
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:53,199
Speaker 2: Damn it, dumping the car thing.

1088
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wish it was like frogs or something.

1089
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,679
I think we passed it earlier.

1090
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,559
Speaker 2: On so weirds, you know.

1091
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's literally just the fact that I know their cats. Yeah,

1092
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,599
they look like butts or like fury. They look like

1093
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:17,199
bushes with like like pelvic bushes with cat legs coming

1094
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:17,800
out of them.

1095
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's strange. You can disassociate pretty easily that I

1096
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:26,159
have meant to be like disposable little trowels. But yeah,

1097
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:28,719
it is. It's a gross game. In general, you fight

1098
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,639
poop a lot, Like you were saying, they have enemies

1099
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:34,360
that are that have anuses for faces that are like

1100
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:38,480
squirting discharge when you hit them. It's fucking gross. And

1101
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:40,519
so like there's been a couple of times where I've

1102
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:43,599
had to be like, oh, like I don't know like

1103
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:47,519
about that. You know what, you constantly in your path

1104
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:50,079
because you have pathways where you fight, maybe you come

1105
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,679
across an object or an item, and so you accruise

1106
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,480
something and sometimes it's a choice. And I've had choice

1107
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,000
ones where it's like there's a gross pile of bones.

1108
00:50:59,079 --> 00:51:01,920
Do you fight it, do you eat it? Or do

1109
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,000
you walk away? And I had like a high constitution,

1110
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,480
so I ate it and it was good, but I

1111
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:11,199
was eating bones of another cat. It was like, you know,

1112
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,679
it's just kind of yuck. I had one of those

1113
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:17,480
Dan it was a hole and it just said, uh,

1114
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,039
this hole was meant for you. This hole is perfectly

1115
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:25,840
shaped like you do you enter the hole? Which is

1116
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,840
like a comic reference is the manga?

1117
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:29,559
Speaker 4: It is?

1118
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 3: Right?

1119
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what was the I should know this? The

1120
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,920
writer's famous, the mong artist. But like, yeah, yeah, people

1121
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,719
wake up one day and there's just holes in walls

1122
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,880
and stuff shaped perfectly like each of them.

1123
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's so it's like it's like one of those

1124
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,440
little uh ging eto I don't know, I couldn't remember it.

1125
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:55,639
Uh they make references to all these like pup culture things. Anyway,

1126
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:59,440
I went into the hole and I fucking died. It

1127
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:02,599
killed me. It took my cat away and I never

1128
00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:05,760
got it back. And then and then, like I want

1129
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,760
to say, three areas later, I found an alley cat

1130
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,800
and it joined my squad.

1131
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, with like low stats, you kind of build it out.

1132
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,639
Speaker 3: It was a real piece of shit cat. And I

1133
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,800
like had my cats do it. And I got a

1134
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,519
cat this big. I got a like a dwarf cat.

1135
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,039
It was like a tiny little thimble of a cat,

1136
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,119
and its stats were one across the board. And then

1137
00:52:31,159 --> 00:52:34,679
it had seventeen luck and it was just this complete,

1138
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,079
worthless little worm of a cat. But I kept getting

1139
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:42,119
good luck throughout my run. It's just like it's so random,

1140
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:43,880
I think, is what I'm saying. Is like I was

1141
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,599
amazed with the variants, the variance of items, the variants

1142
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:49,920
of types of cats, the variants of like what you

1143
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,519
can do with their classes and their cadence and there

1144
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,920
and the world that you got. I never had even

1145
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,400
a similar run, not once.

1146
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: So and that's the thing that I think excites me

1147
00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:01,039
the most about this game is because because there are

1148
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:03,599
so many you know, passive inactive abilities and things like that,

1149
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:05,599
that you don't know what you're going to get. And

1150
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,719
twice now because I banks probably put as much time.

1151
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,679
So let's say together we put over one hundred hours

1152
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:13,960
into it. Man Bonk and I got one completely broken

1153
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,360
build and she got one, and both in a fun way.

1154
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:23,760
I say broken parentheses positive here, what do you mean broken? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

1155
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,119
So with Bonks, it was she had a passive called singularity,

1156
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,440
which makes it so everything is one, and so it's

1157
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,840
like you have one HP, you have one MANA, any

1158
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,880
damage you receive is one, like all these things are one.

1159
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:37,559
But then she also got an item that she equipped

1160
00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:41,000
that made it so anytime you take one damage, it

1161
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:45,519
counts as zero damage. So the one thing made it

1162
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:47,320
soever all damage is one. The other one made it

1163
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,360
to all one damage is zero. She had an immortal

1164
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,840
cat like could not could not get hurt. So that's

1165
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:52,639
incredible funny.

1166
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: That's like mine philosophical thought experiment.

1167
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and mine was just oh my god, it was

1168
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,400
just the most dominant build here where it's like I

1169
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,239
had a cleric that had this thing called Hallowed Ground

1170
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,559
where it would throw a blessing pickup that's a little

1171
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,400
like blue crucifix thing, And so normally you go over

1172
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,719
this thing and it gives you one shield that will

1173
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,639
basically absorb any amount of damage, so one hit, even

1174
00:54:13,639 --> 00:54:15,320
if it's sixty damage, it's just going to be poo.

1175
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:17,440
That was just a shield. But then I had a

1176
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,840
passive that made anything that I pick up is shared

1177
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,800
among my entire team. So now suddenly I throw the shield,

1178
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:26,639
I pick it up, and my whole team has it.

1179
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:29,519
Now the bonus was I had a ranger that had

1180
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:31,760
a passive that made all of my trap effects and

1181
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,679
everything doubled. And one of my traps was a spider

1182
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:39,760
egg trap that would normally spawn four spiders when an

1183
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,760
enemy died, pretty decent, but with the double anytime I

1184
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,400
killed any enemy, I would get eight fucking spiders. And

1185
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,960
here's the real kicker, the clericx ability. It shares all

1186
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,679
pickups with the whole team. That counted all these fucking

1187
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,480
spiders and maggots and everything. So I would literally have

1188
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,880
like twenty two fucking things on my team, and every

1189
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,159
time I pick up like this invincible crucifix thing. They

1190
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,840
all get it. So every single match to every boss

1191
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,159
is just like it's just filled with all these fucking

1192
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,599
spiders that are basically invincible, and I was just annihilating everything.

1193
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:19,039
It just felt so broken. But like, if that was

1194
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:21,119
every round, that would suck, that would feel broken in

1195
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:22,760
a bad way. But when you just like it clicks

1196
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,400
together and you realize what you've got, it's a moment like, oh,

1197
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,559
this is going to be the best run ever.

1198
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 3: And once you finish the rounds and it's like okay, well,

1199
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,519
then you know you got to come up with something new.

1200
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:33,920
At least for me. Right now, I had a really

1201
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,800
strong hand. I just had I had a really good

1202
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,880
healer and a really good damage dealer, and they were unstoppable.

1203
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,719
And so I went through the whole area, all the

1204
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,559
way through like the caves and everything, and I was like,

1205
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:48,119
I'm a genius. But then when they get home, it's like,

1206
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:49,920
all right, well now I have to find a new build,

1207
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:54,039
and so I'm just constantly pulling. I'm pushing myself as

1208
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:59,519
a gamer to find the best way to combine items

1209
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:02,400
and builds as opposed to just being like, well, I

1210
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,360
know what system works for me. It's it makes me

1211
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,199
get out of my comfort zone and be like, I

1212
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:09,280
guess I need to try the thief in this one.

1213
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 2: I don't like the thief at all. Have you got

1214
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,199
any classes past that?

1215
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: Uh?

1216
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think I've unlocked any more classes

1217
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,000
I have, Like, I think it's the original ones, right,

1218
00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:23,079
It's like I think there's.

1219
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: Tank, bunk Age, Ranger, cleric, Fighter, and then there's Thief,

1220
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,119
an original one Thief.

1221
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either I unlocked it.

1222
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: Or early on, but yeah, and then there's yeah, but

1223
00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:34,400
I think.

1224
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 3: There's twelve classes. But it's it's the amount of items

1225
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,000
and upgrades that make things like so variable ultimately that

1226
00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:44,599
I think is like such a game changer. I've had

1227
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,800
really interesting items that I think are are funny and unique.

1228
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,639
I got one that was, uh, poison, and it poisons

1229
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:55,880
everything on the map no matter what you know, friend

1230
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,400
and ally and and villain, and so if there's a

1231
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,199
shits in a stuff on the map, I just use

1232
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,039
the I just use it. I just equip it, and

1233
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,239
then I try and heal myself and make sure that

1234
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,039
I don't have poison. But then it's poisoning everybody else.

1235
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:12,920
The entire map, and I think that's kind of cheeky

1236
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,119
to be able to do that, but you can't save

1237
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:16,960
some because the game yells at.

1238
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 2: You catch mister Rossetti. They even like reference mister Rossetti specifically. Yeah,

1239
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:24,159
I kind of love that everything feels like it's got

1240
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:26,079
consequences and stuff. Like I've had things where it's like

1241
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:28,639
I have a dream like cat build and then like

1242
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,400
it goes into one of those things where it's like,

1243
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,880
here's a gross hole. Do you want to fuck it?

1244
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,440
And like I guess, and then it's like, well, now

1245
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,119
you have a fucking thing where you just attack yourself

1246
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:38,719
seventy five percent of the time you attack, It's like,

1247
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,519
what fuck? I just ruined my cat to try to

1248
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:41,079
fuck a hole.

1249
00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:43,599
Speaker 3: Well, let that be a lesson to you.

1250
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: I know, I will say and I won't say specifics,

1251
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,480
but I will say the thing with like, oh, your

1252
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,639
cat's done at the end. There is just stuff that

1253
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:54,519
unlocks where it's like there are reasons where you would

1254
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:57,119
want to have, like when you have different rooms and

1255
00:57:57,119 --> 00:57:58,679
stuff like let's say I've got a room that is

1256
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,199
just like here's all Stars, here's the all Stars that

1257
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,119
like went on a successful run and I love their

1258
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:07,760
passives and stuff. I'm gonna and I'm gonna have a

1259
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,400
use for four of them.

1260
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,679
Speaker 3: Later and all my losers go into the hole.

1261
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all just die.

1262
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, brutal.

1263
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1264
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: I want to keep playing more of that because, yeah,

1265
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,079
I think it is the like if this then that

1266
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,800
logic that seems really compelling to toy with with the

1267
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,119
items and the different cat accommodations, And I understand they're

1268
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:27,760
not trying to make it the best turn based tactic

1269
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,199
game on the map itself. That's not what this game

1270
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,599
is about. So I want to keep playing that. So

1271
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,320
I'm not digging it for that. I'm just saying, like

1272
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:38,480
I think I went in expecting it to be like

1273
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:40,360
into the breach right away, which.

1274
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,199
Speaker 2: It's a bit different. I mean that's more like, yes,

1275
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,119
you know, for sure it's into the.

1276
00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 3: Breach if they were like fucking and sucking the whole time. Yeah,

1277
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,440
and then like they were fighting dicks that were coming

1278
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,800
out of butts.

1279
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1280
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's weird because it's like we do

1281
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,559
gross out humor and stuff. You're like, we're not we're

1282
00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:57,920
not above gross out here.

1283
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,079
Speaker 3: Yeah we are gross, but there's.

1284
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: Something about this type or it just kind of feels

1285
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,400
like there's not even a joke or cleverness behind anything.

1286
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:07,360
It's just like what if this thing was like a

1287
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,039
bloody asshole and it's like that's I don't want bad.

1288
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 3: I don't fight a bloody asshole.

1289
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like great.

1290
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 3: I think it's a bit exhaust.

1291
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah it's not my fit, but like, I guess that

1292
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,679
is a way to like add variance to a bunch

1293
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:24,840
of different things where it's like, oh, these it's about

1294
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,199
mutations and birth defects, like that's a big part of

1295
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:29,480
what happens to these units. So like I guess that's

1296
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,440
one way you could do it. No, this guy's assholes bloody.

1297
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,679
Speaker 1: And I got over Binding of Isaac's asthetic and humor,

1298
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,119
and I absolutely love that game over the years that

1299
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:43,719
they had been updating it, so like I'm I'm not

1300
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,000
above moving past it. I'm getting there, but I really

1301
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,760
do kind of just want to save it for flights now.

1302
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,679
Speaker 2: Now let me ask you, I'm loving this and I

1303
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:52,760
know it's a different genre, but like when Binding of

1304
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,760
Isaac came out, that's when I learned what a roguelight

1305
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,559
was because I remember I played it a Game Informer

1306
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:00,280
and I was like, I died and I back to

1307
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:01,559
the beginning. I was like, what the fuck is this shit?

1308
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,960
And I think it was our PC out of the

1309
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,599
Adam Bistner told me it's like, oh, it's a rogue

1310
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:05,639
light and it's like, what the fuck is that? And

1311
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:06,920
he's like, oh, yeah, you die and you restart a

1312
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,400
running and you have to start over every time. It's

1313
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,119
like that sounds fucking stupid, and I just like never

1314
01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:13,199
tried it again, and then I wound up. Rogue lights

1315
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:16,159
are like maybe my favorite genre. Would it be worth

1316
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:18,639
going back or has like the genre moved so far

1317
01:00:18,639 --> 01:00:19,159
beyond that.

1318
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: To Binding of Isaac. Yeah, yeah, oh they've still very

1319
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,519
They've tweaked it so much. It had like six thousand

1320
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:28,599
concurrent players at some point, like they've they've worked they

1321
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:30,960
had worked on it so much throughout the years, it's

1322
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,079
going to be unrecognizable. I didn't like it when I

1323
01:00:33,079 --> 01:00:36,159
first played in two thousand and ten or whatever it

1324
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:39,280
was twenty twelve, Like I think since they made this

1325
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,599
because it's a super meat boy than that and then this, right.

1326
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,599
Speaker 2: I uh, there's something in between. There was like the

1327
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:45,440
end of the World and is nigh or something.

1328
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, Binding of Isaac is still it reminds

1329
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,800
me of like Enter the Gungeon now, that kind of

1330
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,559
format of rogue Light dungeon crawler. Yeah, it'd be worth

1331
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:57,840
checking out. I still enjoy it. Okay.

1332
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,679
Speaker 3: People say it's kind of like this in the sense

1333
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:01,679
that you can easily play one hundred hours of it,

1334
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,639
like it's been it's built to pour time.

1335
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the biggest fan I know is like

1336
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,280
Russ fresh Stick and his other his favorite game is

1337
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,199
like Spelunky. I think it's more like Spelunky, like with

1338
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,760
a few more rogue Light permanent upgrades between runs.

1339
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:19,239
Speaker 2: Which one has more bloody assholes?

1340
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,719
Speaker 1: Mugenics for sure. Yeah, yeah, No, Binding Isaac is all

1341
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,880
like pregnancy and whatnot.

1342
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,159
Speaker 2: And again I put that in the kind of the

1343
01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:30,880
same category of like a lot of it just seems like,

1344
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,239
is it fucked up that we did? This enemy is

1345
01:01:33,239 --> 01:01:35,519
an abortion with the fucking rifle, and it's like, I

1346
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:39,679
don't you know that does nothing for me?

1347
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,239
Speaker 1: What's that that happened in Mugenics?

1348
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: No, I feel like everything I started Binding Isaac is like, yeah,

1349
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,760
this boss is just like stabbing her pussy.

1350
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,199
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, that's like I don't like this. I

1351
01:01:53,199 --> 01:01:53,679
don't either.

1352
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:56,519
Speaker 3: That's such a gross sound bite.

1353
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,239
Speaker 2: It's like I love Rent and Stimpy because it was

1354
01:01:59,239 --> 01:02:02,360
almost like an innoc grossness to it, and like all

1355
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,880
like this just seems so aggressive, like the binding of lies.

1356
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: Children's gross stuff, and y'ere old, Like we we had

1357
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,639
our time when with a close up Run and Stimpy

1358
01:02:12,679 --> 01:02:16,440
things were vile. They were disgusting, sinky tooth or something,

1359
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:18,679
you know, yeah, and as kids we were like, hey,

1360
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:20,559
I can't believe they're getting this close up of this

1361
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:23,880
pample and uh, SpongeBob did it too.

1362
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: Like I find out now kids can't see Jaws. Tell

1363
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,000
they're fucking twenty If you're Jeff Backlar.

1364
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:34,119
Speaker 1: He's not letting, he's not lettings DC Jaws like twenty hockey.

1365
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:36,239
Speaker 2: Jock Son isn't allowed to watch Jaws because it would

1366
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:38,519
be too the PG movie Jaws that everyone sees when

1367
01:02:38,519 --> 01:02:39,000
they're five.

1368
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's just because he doesn't want to

1369
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,800
be afraid of swimming in lakes and the ocean.

1370
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:46,039
Speaker 2: That's to say, like, yeah, if you can't watch Jaws,

1371
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:47,639
they're certainly not playing these guys.

1372
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 3: Not Porky's Revenge when I was twelve.

1373
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:54,599
Speaker 1: We're normal, healthy people. I saw three when I was seven.

1374
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,360
That's actually a real thing. I'm not getting well, normal man,

1375
01:03:01,519 --> 01:03:05,079
real DVD. I came with my friend bought something else

1376
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:08,719
and I came with that. What else are you playing?

1377
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: Da Are you okay?

1378
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:18,639
Speaker 2: We're all doing great? He's taking it. I'm playing Mario

1379
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,400
Tennis or I was. I don't know, I'll play it.

1380
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,559
Speaker 1: I'm just said end of the Wholesome versus Disgusting.

1381
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,039
Speaker 2: The first part of the story mode is Daisy is

1382
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:30,400
on her fucking deathbed. Like the Mario Tennis story. Mode

1383
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,920
starts with Daisy laying in bed and it's like she's been.

1384
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,079
Speaker 1: She's poop as well.

1385
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: Well it's like, oh she's not getting any better, like

1386
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,719
she shows her it's like like clearly dying and there's

1387
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,920
like Donkey Kong talking to like Tennis. Yeah, it's weird.

1388
01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:46,599
It's like I'm telling you, it's like the opening like

1389
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,760
picture is insane. It's just like all it's like everyone's

1390
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,760
concerned and the Princess Daisy's hospital room. And then it's

1391
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,800
fucking incredible because Warrio and WALLAWEGI like bust into her

1392
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,559
hospital room and the exact quote is one of them.

1393
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:01,519
It doesn't say who says she doesn't look.

1394
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:02,079
Speaker 1: Good at all.

1395
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:08,679
Speaker 3: And then Private Hill, Ye, they're.

1396
01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:11,559
Speaker 2: Gonna profit off of Princess Daisy dying because they're like,

1397
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:14,119
you know what will cure her. There's some caves and

1398
01:04:14,159 --> 01:04:17,360
there's a golden fruit in there, and this golden apple

1399
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,519
is gonna cure her. But they actually like, man, we're

1400
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:22,360
gonna get rich off this gold apple. Uh, and Daisy's

1401
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,400
fucking dead. Who cares?

1402
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: Like that's the setup.

1403
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: But then they go to the caves and get attacked

1404
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,119
by monsters and they get beat up so bad they

1405
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:31,679
turn into babies, and then they suck at tennis. So

1406
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,119
then you got to go to tennis school?

1407
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:39,159
Speaker 1: Are interesting? Yeah, you go to tennis. Like many after

1408
01:04:39,199 --> 01:04:43,880
you go to tennis school, what why do you continue

1409
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,719
to play tennis?

1410
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like the first couple of hours,

1411
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,960
it's just going around academy and like toad teachers asking

1412
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,440
you about slice shots and uh. Then you go on

1413
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,599
an airship and and you got to fix the ship

1414
01:04:55,639 --> 01:04:58,719
with tennis and it's just a fucking weird story mode

1415
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,079
and it sounds way more interesting than it is because

1416
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:02,480
it's like most of this is just kind of told

1417
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,039
through like very static, just almost like a visual novel

1418
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,960
type style, and then text and everything, and so it's

1419
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,519
just walking from thing to thing, and then it'll be like, hey,

1420
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:14,559
you should do this thing. That'll teach you. Like we're

1421
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:16,239
going to shoot a bunch of cacti at you and

1422
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,800
you've got to do a top spin to send them

1423
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,719
back and you do that seven times, and then you

1424
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,239
walk to the next thing and they're like, all right,

1425
01:05:21,239 --> 01:05:23,760
well here hit a star shot on this to seven

1426
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,920
piranha plans and then you move on, like it's just

1427
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,320
like a list of shit you have to do.

1428
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: Follow up question, Yeah, is this game bad? That's the thing.

1429
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: It's not bad. Like when you're playing tennis, it's fine.

1430
01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:39,280
It is like it feels good, but it's like it doesn't.

1431
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:39,679
Speaker 1: All I want.

1432
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,079
Speaker 2: It doesn't noticeably better than like Mario Tennis sixty four

1433
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:44,800
that you can play on Switch online, I mean.

1434
01:05:44,719 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: Which still felt great last time we played it in December. Yeah.

1435
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,199
Speaker 2: No, it's like when you're just playing tennis, it's a

1436
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,320
gay I like that I'm playing this. There's some stuff

1437
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,920
I don't leve where it's like I have never once

1438
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,880
been able to hit the ball out of bounce, and

1439
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,679
like that is part of the kind of risk reward

1440
01:05:57,679 --> 01:05:59,760
thing of tennis games. It's like, well, I want to

1441
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,480
hit hard and fast close to the line, but I

1442
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:04,400
don't want to knock it out. And this one it

1443
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,000
doesn't feel like there's that risk. I mean, you can

1444
01:06:06,039 --> 01:06:08,280
just crank the analog stick all the way and it's

1445
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,960
not gonna go out of bound, so it is pretty

1446
01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:14,119
safe in that way. It does introduce these new beaver rackets.

1447
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: That's the princess is dead.

1448
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,119
Speaker 2: They don't really go back to that. I don't know

1449
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:19,000
if she dies.

1450
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:22,599
Speaker 3: And you're playing tennis and your corpses.

1451
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:25,599
Speaker 1: Somewhere the red herring, it's a mcguffin.

1452
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,599
Speaker 2: It is the thing that gets them to the cave,

1453
01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:29,440
to get them beat up and turn into babies that

1454
01:06:29,519 --> 01:06:32,079
suck at tennis. What's what's confusing about this?

1455
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,119
Speaker 3: It just feels like it feels like a trope, like

1456
01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:38,039
the wife and the fridge, Like she has no purpose.

1457
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,840
Her job is to die so that you play tennis.

1458
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,119
Speaker 2: But what if the wife almost death made you turn

1459
01:06:44,159 --> 01:06:45,840
into a baby and then have to learn to be

1460
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,480
good at tennis. I'm putting the images in our discord

1461
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,559
if you would like to take a look at this.

1462
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:52,719
So I don't just sound insane, that's that's Daisy dying

1463
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:53,159
right there.

1464
01:06:53,239 --> 01:06:56,719
Speaker 1: I think that the people at Nintendo have only just

1465
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,519
discovered cocaine in the last few years, and that just

1466
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:02,000
explains their run of games.

1467
01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: Mario Otisse, t Rex's mustaches. Yeah.

1468
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's really good, like Mario Odyssey. Other times it's

1469
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:11,480
like the end of a coke bender and they make

1470
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,480
Mario Tennis story mode.

1471
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,519
Speaker 2: Its like half cross eyed and stuff, And despite getting

1472
01:07:19,519 --> 01:07:21,519
lots of brass, she showed no signs of improving.

1473
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: Yo, she doesn't look good at all.

1474
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 3: Waluigi or Warrio.

1475
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:32,599
Speaker 2: I think, said Yo. I think he's a Yo guy.

1476
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,519
Speaker 3: Who do you think? Who do you think kok? Yeah,

1477
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:37,599
Cannon says.

1478
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: Yo, I think, says Yo. Now yeah. So it's like

1479
01:07:42,199 --> 01:07:44,000
everything I just said makes it sound more interesting than

1480
01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:46,599
it is. It's really not. It's like they do these

1481
01:07:46,599 --> 01:07:48,599
stats where it's like and they make it seem like

1482
01:07:48,639 --> 01:07:51,639
it's an RPG. It's not. It's just like meters moving

1483
01:07:51,719 --> 01:07:55,320
up after every stupid little training thing. So totally skippable

1484
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,079
story mode if you just want to have it on

1485
01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:01,400
your system to play a fun tennis game with every

1486
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,519
once in a while. That's fine, but at this seventy dollars,

1487
01:08:03,719 --> 01:08:06,480
so you know, like and then how much you want

1488
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,639
to play tennis every once in a while.

1489
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want. I just want the tennis, and

1490
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:14,079
I guess I get to play Versus mode.

1491
01:08:14,719 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 2: You play Versus Mode. It's got the fever Racket, things

1492
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,479
that are like ads, like you know, these super shots that, oh,

1493
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,119
the banana racket will make it so like bananas fall

1494
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:24,760
on the court when it lands, you know, stuff like

1495
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,720
that like that. Yeah, yeah, it's fun.

1496
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: Into yep, Mary, You've been playing more Mio, which you

1497
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,399
talked about in the last couple episodes.

1498
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 3: I think just the last episode, I think I started

1499
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,960
playing Meo and I really liked it, and I was,

1500
01:08:39,079 --> 01:08:42,399
you know, comparing it to other metroid venias that I

1501
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,840
think are flighty and fun, and I was like, and

1502
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:52,520
it's not insanely hard. Well, it got really hard, got

1503
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,680
really really tough. Somewhere in like the fourth to fifth area,

1504
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:02,039
the platforming gets pretty brutal. Well, I'm still enjoying it,

1505
01:09:02,079 --> 01:09:04,439
but I have to take breaks now because it's defeating

1506
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,479
to play a boss for like two hours. You need

1507
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,920
like a break mentally after you take on a boss.

1508
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:13,199
Speaker 2: For that long hollow night levels like Silk Songs type.

1509
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 3: I would say that it's not as hard as Silk Song,

1510
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,840
but it's because it doesn't have the run backs that

1511
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,880
are so brutal. But it has a boss fight. It

1512
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:27,159
has this boss fight with two battling robots and there's

1513
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:28,920
a bunch of spikes on the ground and you just

1514
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,960
have this tiny little stand that you're on to fight

1515
01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:36,520
these robots that are doing symmetrical moves very difficult, and

1516
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,680
then I think halfway through the fight, the stand disappears,

1517
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:43,119
and so you have to hit them to get your

1518
01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:48,000
jump back, maintain your loftiness for the second half of

1519
01:09:48,039 --> 01:09:53,680
the fight. I mean is like, come on, yes, the

1520
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,359
stand doesn't come back. You have to hold the fight

1521
01:09:57,279 --> 01:10:00,920
by attacking them using your gly and then getting your

1522
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,960
jump back by attacking, all while not taking damage. And

1523
01:10:06,039 --> 01:10:09,039
this game, as you progress, and it's a really beautiful

1524
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:12,479
like story component to it that I think is absolutely lovely,

1525
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,079
you take permanent damage. So as I'm gaining life at

1526
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:20,399
this stage in the game, I have like nine life

1527
01:10:20,399 --> 01:10:23,600
and I'm really proud of it. I've lost four life permanently,

1528
01:10:24,039 --> 01:10:27,199
so I actually only have five life. It's not as

1529
01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:33,039
like beneficial as it seems when you keep taking permanent damage,

1530
01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:35,359
and I think sometimes you recoup them, but right now

1531
01:10:35,359 --> 01:10:38,960
I'm just like at a heavy loss of life. So yeah,

1532
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,960
it's just a brutal area that I think I'm in

1533
01:10:42,279 --> 01:10:46,279
but still loving it, still enjoying it, and I wish

1534
01:10:46,399 --> 01:10:49,920
I'm like determined to beat it, but I've been getting

1535
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:55,520
stuck at a couple of these maniacal boss and platforming

1536
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,439
spaces that I think test my patience to get through.

1537
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:03,880
But I am still especially for people who are Metroidvania

1538
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,760
fans and are like, I'm looking for the next Metroid Vana,

1539
01:11:07,359 --> 01:11:09,600
this is the one I would recommend. There was a

1540
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:14,159
beautiful area where I kept going up and I found

1541
01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:16,039
this hole in glass and so I was like, oh,

1542
01:11:16,079 --> 01:11:17,680
I'll go through this glass. And I kept going up

1543
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,720
and up and up, and it just really rewarded me

1544
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:27,840
with this visual display. Just a stunning place to put

1545
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,560
me in. And it just has a little bench, very

1546
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,239
hollow night and you sit in it and you just

1547
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,359
look you just look at the view as a player,

1548
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,359
and I think that that is one of the best

1549
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:43,000
rewards that you can give a player outside of obviously

1550
01:11:43,079 --> 01:11:45,920
like extra health or something like that, but instead of

1551
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,560
like an item, it is a place for thoughtful introspection

1552
01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:54,359
with really nice music and a beautiful visual. And I

1553
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:59,239
thought to myself, like, these devs gave a shit about

1554
01:11:59,359 --> 01:12:01,600
the environment that they're putting you in. They're not just

1555
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,039
saying like, now do another hired boss. They were like,

1556
01:12:04,119 --> 01:12:07,079
this area is just for you to have thinkums about

1557
01:12:07,119 --> 01:12:10,600
life and love and why you exist. And I appreciate

1558
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:11,279
when games do.

1559
01:12:11,239 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: That kind of reminds me I need to I've been

1560
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,439
meaning to you for years to go back and play

1561
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,159
or In the Will of the Wisps.

1562
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:18,119
Speaker 2: A good one.

1563
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: We talked about it years ago. I came out I

1564
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:23,479
love the Blind Forest, and I started Will of the Wisps.

1565
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,319
But I think for whatever reason, once it started to

1566
01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:27,319
open up, I had other stuff going on. But I

1567
01:12:27,399 --> 01:12:30,279
remember that game like really liking those environments as well.

1568
01:12:31,039 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: I've been comparing it to Or the most of all

1569
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,000
of the games that I would compare this too, I

1570
01:12:35,039 --> 01:12:37,039
would say it's very similar to an Or. It's just

1571
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:42,119
meaner than or Ori. I think a casual person can

1572
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:45,359
get through Or. I don't know if a casual gamer

1573
01:12:45,399 --> 01:12:47,319
could get through MIO. I do think you have to

1574
01:12:47,359 --> 01:12:52,840
have some prowess for uh yeah, for being able to

1575
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:57,760
get through some of these boss fights, but very very thoughtful.

1576
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 2: It sounds like the combats is probably where the difficulty

1577
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,680
comes from. Where or I remember would have those spikes

1578
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,600
where it would be the very dramatic chase sequences and

1579
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,079
stuff and you got to like hit a bunch of

1580
01:13:07,119 --> 01:13:08,039
platforming stuff.

1581
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: Yes, the platforming was tough. I would say, yeah, this

1582
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,479
doesn't have any timing platforming, but oh god does it

1583
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,760
have some platforming spaces that also tested my patience. But

1584
01:13:18,319 --> 01:13:22,800
the upgrades are so powerful if you use them properly.

1585
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,279
There's an upgrade that just lets you climb walls like

1586
01:13:26,319 --> 01:13:30,399
a spider. I mean, that is incredibly powerful. You can

1587
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,199
go everywhere with that, but you can only do it

1588
01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:34,119
for like three seconds and again then you have to

1589
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,720
you have to recognize you have to hit somebody to

1590
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,720
get your wall climbing back. But you know, as long

1591
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,000
as you understand those fundamentals, you can get through it.

1592
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:47,680
So anyway, hopefully by the next time we talk, I'm

1593
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,239
trying not to jinx myself. I can be like it done.

1594
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:52,600
I really like it. I still like it, but yeah,

1595
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:53,319
it's harder now.

1596
01:13:54,159 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: Well, Dan, you also playing Cinacross? Am I saying that correctly?

1597
01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:01,079
Speaker 2: I wonder that every time I say it, because it's

1598
01:14:01,119 --> 01:14:04,000
a C I n I cross't seny Across sceney Cross.

1599
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:09,520
It is Pacross, which I deeply love Pacross, and it's

1600
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,640
a rogue light, which those two weren't activated my brain immediately.

1601
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,920
And I played the next Fest demo a few months

1602
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,119
back and it was great. Full game is out now.

1603
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,239
I like it a lot. It is it's like the

1604
01:14:22,359 --> 01:14:26,159
blatrode Pacrosse, but it's got kind of that like Slay

1605
01:14:26,199 --> 01:14:28,560
the Spire type rogue light map where you know, you

1606
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,600
see the the rooms and it's like, okay, do I

1607
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,640
want to go to the shop here this campfire to

1608
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:34,680
you know, get my HP back? Or do I want

1609
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:35,960
to go here and try to get some items on

1610
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,399
this fight or whatever? And each of the like fights

1611
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,840
has a you know, one through four or five or

1612
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,600
something difficulty level, so that corresponds like is this gonna

1613
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,119
be a five by five grid? Is this gonna be

1614
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:47,079
like a twenty by twenty grid? Things like that, and

1615
01:14:47,159 --> 01:14:49,560
like it's.

1616
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: I sell for ten dollars right now.

1617
01:14:51,079 --> 01:14:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's it's fun because like I didn't

1618
01:14:53,319 --> 01:14:55,199
know how I was gonna feel about like because to me,

1619
01:14:55,319 --> 01:14:57,920
pacross has always been like it's such a great game

1620
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,680
of like you don't ever need to get and across.

1621
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,640
It is a logic puzzle, the type I like where

1622
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,600
it's like, okay, with just the numbers on the board here,

1623
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,880
you should be able to tell the blocks that you

1624
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,319
need to fill in, which ones you need to break

1625
01:15:09,399 --> 01:15:11,920
or cross out or whatever, and so you can really

1626
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,800
take your time with traditional pacrosse, this one it is

1627
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,479
timed because like you will have like a time limit

1628
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,239
like a blue orb basically that's ticking down.

1629
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 3: And that will looks like Diablo one by the way, yes.

1630
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,039
Speaker 2: Yes, and it'll stay persistent. So it's like if you

1631
01:15:26,079 --> 01:15:27,319
have five minutes at the end of the level, you're

1632
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:29,439
gonna have five minutes once you start the next one.

1633
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,680
And you can get upgrades and stuff like that and

1634
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,560
get items at shops where it's like I'm gonna get

1635
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,399
thirty seconds back. But then you can also get passives

1636
01:15:36,399 --> 01:15:38,199
that are like, oh, all of your time bonuses are

1637
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:40,560
plus five percent and stuff like that. So there are

1638
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,119
artifacts kind of like like the Jokers and Blatro. The

1639
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:46,560
thing is, it's like I don't feel like there's as

1640
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:50,000
much you can do with pacrosse, so like the artifacts

1641
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,760
are not necessarily as exciting as something like Blatro. So

1642
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,039
you'll get buffs for like you're getting more HV game,

1643
01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:58,920
you're getting more time bonuses, You're getting things like that.

1644
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,199
There's stuff where it's like it'll add gold cells to

1645
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:04,520
the pacross board, and those are times so if you

1646
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,640
get to them fast enough, you'll get some gold that

1647
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,439
you can use in shops and stuff. And I guess

1648
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,399
I didn't finish what I said about the time aspect.

1649
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,359
That is what's interesting is that, like I was worried that, like, well,

1650
01:16:16,279 --> 01:16:17,960
Percross to me is kind of a relaxed thing. You

1651
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,119
take your time and you parse over all the numbers

1652
01:16:20,119 --> 01:16:22,600
and everything. This one is like it's across with a

1653
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,760
time limit, and I think I'm stressful it does, but

1654
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,760
it works. I think, like I liked, I liked doing

1655
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,880
fast pacross, and this is one that kind of really

1656
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,880
rewards you for it. And I'll find myself going for

1657
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,439
that level four difficulty twenty by twenty grid over the

1658
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,600
easy because like any five y five grid you can

1659
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,319
solve in two seconds, So it's like you'll get more

1660
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:43,159
rewards than everything if you can solve it. But it's

1661
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:45,720
gonna be tough. And then there's like fun challenges and stuff,

1662
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,119
like there's items that'll give you bonuses if you don't

1663
01:16:48,199 --> 01:16:52,359
use any crosses. So you know, like cross out blocks

1664
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,800
on pacrosse if you know there's no way that's gonna

1665
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,680
be filled in. So this one, it's like, oh, it

1666
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,520
behooves you to just fill in blocks and not mark

1667
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,039
the exit on the other one.

1668
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,199
Speaker 3: Which is risky. If it's a lot of blocks.

1669
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,279
Speaker 2: Yes, that makes it. The difficulty level is so much

1670
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:08,199
higher if you're not marking them. That's a huge part

1671
01:17:08,199 --> 01:17:11,000
of a cross pacross. So like, there are some interesting ones.

1672
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,119
I would not expect a huge amount of variants and stuff.

1673
01:17:13,119 --> 01:17:15,079
They're like bosses the way like you know in Blotro

1674
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:17,359
you do a boss and it would be like, well,

1675
01:17:17,399 --> 01:17:20,479
all diamonds are you know, not worth anything. It will

1676
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:23,079
do things now where it's like okay, every few seconds

1677
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,560
the screen turns red, and any cells you try to

1678
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,520
fill in when it's red, it's gonna hurt your HP.

1679
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,640
Or there's things where it's like oh, all the numbers

1680
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,119
on the side of the grid are just rotating, they're

1681
01:17:33,159 --> 01:17:35,720
just spinning. So it's like a fuck all right, it's

1682
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:40,199
kind of harding's.

1683
01:17:38,199 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: Two to two, that's four and one must suck.

1684
01:17:42,319 --> 01:17:44,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like they're spinning pretty fast and everything. So

1685
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:47,680
like there's some fun gimmicks there and everything. But yeah,

1686
01:17:48,079 --> 01:17:50,840
it's just a fun new twist on pacross. It's uh,

1687
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,279
which I'm never gonna say no to any Here's the thing,

1688
01:17:53,279 --> 01:17:55,840
there's there's so much actual pacrosse out there, like the

1689
01:17:56,159 --> 01:17:58,760
Pacross S series on Switch there's like fucking nine or

1690
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,840
ten of those or more. So I'm fine on just

1691
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,119
normal pacross. I could use a few more three D Pacrosses.

1692
01:18:04,399 --> 01:18:07,119
But I think this is a cool twist on pacrosse

1693
01:18:07,279 --> 01:18:08,760
that I'm very very much enjoying.

1694
01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:10,359
Speaker 1: Cool.

1695
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 3: I love the visual style of it. I mean, I

1696
01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:17,239
just love it. Looking at screen shots.

1697
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,199
Speaker 1: Of day That's what I was trying to remember. Yes, yeah,

1698
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:20,600
og funny.

1699
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 3: I think classic you know, you know, low bit rate

1700
01:18:27,119 --> 01:18:29,760
game play. But it looks good, Like, it doesn't look bad,

1701
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:30,560
it looks great.

1702
01:18:31,159 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: How manything's going to do with it? Like they made

1703
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:34,760
pacrosse look visually interesting.

1704
01:18:35,079 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: They did. I love there's like I don't know what

1705
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,520
area this is, but there's like a spinning wheel so

1706
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,760
it looks kind of gambly, and there's like a ball

1707
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,279
with a bunch of orbs in it and it's your gold.

1708
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:50,560
Like that looks fun because it's it's tactic. It's tactile.

1709
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,479
It's not you have forty gold. It's like a ball

1710
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:54,760
filled with balls.

1711
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that's at the end of every puzzle you

1712
01:18:57,039 --> 01:18:58,640
get all that stuff. There is that slot machine, so

1713
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,079
like the higher difficulties, there's more reels on the slot

1714
01:19:01,079 --> 01:19:04,039
machine to get the artifacts. There is that spinning wheel

1715
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:06,159
at the bottom that that if it lands on like

1716
01:19:06,359 --> 01:19:08,359
a two times thing, you'll get two items that you

1717
01:19:08,359 --> 01:19:10,560
can pile like consumables and stuff. So it's like you'll

1718
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,600
get a consumable that's like, oh, whenever you pop it,

1719
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,680
it's going to randomly fill in twenty cells on the

1720
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,279
puzzle you're on right now where you pop.

1721
01:19:16,359 --> 01:19:18,159
Speaker 3: This one a really fun Steam deck game.

1722
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it is the thing where

1723
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:22,199
it's like obviously with the mouse you can move around

1724
01:19:22,239 --> 01:19:25,239
a big grid much faster, but you know you can

1725
01:19:25,279 --> 01:19:27,359
play it. Like most of my time was on the

1726
01:19:27,399 --> 01:19:29,279
plane and play with the steam deck so that it

1727
01:19:29,319 --> 01:19:30,800
does work, and you can use the track deck if

1728
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:31,079
you want.

1729
01:19:31,319 --> 01:19:34,159
Speaker 3: You can use the track pad, which you find customs thing,

1730
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:36,479
you know, using the mouse with your.

1731
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 2: I was just using the stick. It's fine, I might

1732
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,520
try track pad thing. I actually made a custom track

1733
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,600
pad one for Eugenics, and that did make it a

1734
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:48,039
little nicer. So oh interesting, So I'm it was easier

1735
01:19:48,119 --> 01:19:50,159
to do that. I've not fiddled with that stuff much,

1736
01:19:50,319 --> 01:19:51,880
but yeah, I made it so just the right track

1737
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,319
pad is the mouse cursor, and then the back left

1738
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,439
top button is like the left click, so you can

1739
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,000
just kind of move around that way a little quick.

1740
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:03,279
Speaker 3: This is neat. I'm tempted to buy this. I'm also

1741
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:06,239
tempted to gift this to my dad because he really

1742
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:09,319
really likes Bilotro. He plays it every day. I know

1743
01:20:09,399 --> 01:20:11,359
he does, because I get a ping when I'm working

1744
01:20:12,359 --> 01:20:16,359
when people in my close friends list open up a game.

1745
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,600
And he plays this every day. I think he tells

1746
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,439
me he gets a coffee, opens up his stocks, and

1747
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,880
then plays Bilatro for two hours or like until he loses.

1748
01:20:27,039 --> 01:20:29,439
I love that then, and that's like a part of

1749
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,239
his existence. I don't think this is probably going to

1750
01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:36,640
become a part of his day to day. But I

1751
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,640
think Pitcross is like something we can all spend an

1752
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,399
afternoon doing and enjoying.

1753
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it does seem like there's a good amount

1754
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,079
of longevity to it because like they're different classes where

1755
01:20:47,079 --> 01:20:49,359
it's like, oh, the Archer has this thing where it's

1756
01:20:49,359 --> 01:20:52,039
like the Archer when you fill in one row, it'll

1757
01:20:52,079 --> 01:20:54,800
like automatically fill in all the x's on the up

1758
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,720
and down, left and right. And then there's the Archer

1759
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,560
that does certain things where it's I forget whether the

1760
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,199
details are that, but they all have their own like

1761
01:21:01,279 --> 01:21:05,600
level up dial and you'll get persistent upgrades and stuff

1762
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,279
as you level up at each of the classes. So

1763
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,199
I mean, I'm always having a good time. I'm playing placrosse.

1764
01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:12,159
So you give me any kind of these like long

1765
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:14,079
tail type things on it, and like, I'm gonna play

1766
01:21:14,079 --> 01:21:14,880
the shit out of this game.

1767
01:21:15,119 --> 01:21:17,079
Speaker 3: I think for less than ten dollars too, this is

1768
01:21:17,119 --> 01:21:19,039
the type of game you probably could pour a shit

1769
01:21:19,119 --> 01:21:19,880
ton of hours in.

1770
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:26,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's got a demo too on Steam, got free

1771
01:21:26,279 --> 01:21:30,159
demo ten dollars. Read that sounds fun? Do you guys

1772
01:21:30,199 --> 01:21:34,520
want to talk about emails go are all right as usual.

1773
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,880
You can write into Firescape cast at gmail dot com.

1774
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,720
Get your questions read on the air. Got a bunch

1775
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,840
coming in. Thank you so much. Fill those coffers for

1776
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,880
twenty twenty six, but keep them coming. You can never

1777
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,800
have too many in the old inbox. We've got good

1778
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,520
ones here today from Jesse, Mary. Do you want to

1779
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,279
read this first one? Sure?

1780
01:21:53,039 --> 01:22:01,319
Speaker 3: Okay, Jesse, Sorry, I got it. Hello is Gapees. I've

1781
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:04,479
started incorporating Mike's You could be anywhere in the world

1782
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,840
right now, but you decided to be here sign off

1783
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:11,359
at the end of my weekly work meetings. What's Gucci Stanley?

1784
01:22:11,399 --> 01:22:14,760
Tucci has not cut on yet. Yeah, nobody has caught

1785
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,319
on to What's Gucci Stanley?

1786
01:22:16,359 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: Including Yeah.

1787
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trying to end it. My question for all

1788
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:24,279
of you is, after you've done recording this episode, if

1789
01:22:24,359 --> 01:22:28,039
you could be anywhere else, literally anywhere, whether it's inside

1790
01:22:28,079 --> 01:22:32,239
your favorite game, world, a book, a movie, a time period,

1791
01:22:32,319 --> 01:22:35,720
or Dan's bathtub full of mac and cheese, where would

1792
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,439
it be and why? Thank you for years of great laughs,

1793
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,760
interesting conversation to hot takes. Here's to more Jesse from Vegas.

1794
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: Please come visit for the record. I got that line

1795
01:22:45,239 --> 01:22:47,119
you could be anywhere in the world from I think

1796
01:22:47,119 --> 01:22:49,680
it was lin Manuel Miranda, But there's like older recordings

1797
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,640
some songs by use it, like Avalanches has a song

1798
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:57,479
that uses it. So it's not my line. I have

1799
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:59,920
a specific spots for sure.

1800
01:23:00,199 --> 01:23:02,520
Speaker 2: Taken in a very literal sense, saying like right after

1801
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,359
recording this episode, I mean the answer for me is

1802
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:05,600
usually going to bed.

1803
01:23:06,319 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh for sure, that's what I do. And

1804
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:16,640
I'm an hour heady yeah yeah, but war somewhere anywhere

1805
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:22,680
in the world. I still think the most beautiful place

1806
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,960
I've ever been in the world is Hanolai bay on Kawhi.

1807
01:23:28,039 --> 01:23:31,399
That was pretty like otherworldly. I wouldn't mind warping there

1808
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:31,920
right now.

1809
01:23:35,399 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 2: I'd like to be in the world of Twisted Metal two.

1810
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,680
I've thought this a lot. I think that just seems

1811
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:42,800
like the most fun place to be.

1812
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,520
Speaker 1: That seems aren't there like murderers driving around blowing each

1813
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:47,119
other up in cars?

1814
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just seems over there.

1815
01:23:50,119 --> 01:23:54,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, had more of a game show element to it

1816
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,199
and some steaks. You got steaks, you know. I I'd

1817
01:23:58,239 --> 01:23:59,680
want to have a cool car in it, and it

1818
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,520
just like they get to travel around the real world

1819
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,960
and do fun things to it. And uh, there's a

1820
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,479
bunch of wacky fun characters.

1821
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:08,239
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

1822
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: I'd like to be one of them.

1823
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 3: I think you would be a wacky character, but I

1824
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,880
don't think you would be like living a wacky life.

1825
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:17,239
I think you'd be selling bottle caps down by the

1826
01:24:17,359 --> 01:24:19,640
river for like scraps of human hair.

1827
01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:22,359
Speaker 2: But I would want to car the shot missiles.

1828
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you wouldn't have it yet because you're selling

1829
01:24:26,039 --> 01:24:27,720
bottle caps down by the river for.

1830
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 2: This isn't then this isn't the answer then, And the

1831
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,680
answer to this question is not that I don't want

1832
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,439
to be a bottle cap river guy. I want to

1833
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,000
be a guy strapped to two wheels screaming and shooting

1834
01:24:36,039 --> 01:24:42,319
missiles at you as well. Yeah, but I mean everyone's

1835
01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:44,159
in the same playing field in that world, right, everyone's

1836
01:24:44,199 --> 01:24:44,680
dealing with that.

1837
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,279
Speaker 1: I just want to go somewhere where there's not like

1838
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:47,880
violence being enacted upon me.

1839
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1840
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want it to be like real. I'd want

1841
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:51,960
to be like well, I guess the Running Man it

1842
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:52,560
was real. Silence.

1843
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: What's like the most picturesque, relaxing, like charming place from

1844
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:03,359
a video game, you'd want to be nether realm, like

1845
01:25:03,399 --> 01:25:04,359
from Mortal Kombat.

1846
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:09,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like there's violence there Dan, right, but it's.

1847
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,079
Speaker 2: Also like remember like Cyraxx got stuck in the sand

1848
01:25:11,119 --> 01:25:11,560
and the beach.

1849
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: I want to go to the forest world in su

1850
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,439
Mario Odyssey where it's just like the beach funk playing.

1851
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 2: Steam Gardens, Yeah, surf Rock, Yes, that's violent.

1852
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 3: Pretty violent. I mean I wouldn't want to be there forever.

1853
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,720
But when I think of like peaceful and serene video games,

1854
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,159
I think of obviously Starduo. That would be so fun.

1855
01:25:35,159 --> 01:25:38,279
We talked about that last episode, how lovely that would

1856
01:25:38,319 --> 01:25:39,920
be that I would actually want to do that. I

1857
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,920
think I would really genuinely enjoy being a little stardew

1858
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:48,319
farmer slime rancher, the one with the sandwiches where you

1859
01:25:48,319 --> 01:25:52,119
collect the little uh it's like Pokemon, but they're pieces

1860
01:25:52,159 --> 01:26:00,880
of sandwich and food. Have sandwich?

1861
01:26:01,039 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: I know exactly it was. It was fucking cook It

1862
01:26:04,119 --> 01:26:08,880
just huge for a while. It was like no early

1863
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:14,960
PlayStation five, like it's like a Animals. Yes, we got

1864
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:17,520
I forgot that game.

1865
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:18,319
Speaker 2: It was a long walk.

1866
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: I would also love if I know this is a

1867
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,439
very different question, Like if if I could warp somewhere

1868
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,680
and live there with Amanda for the rest of my life,

1869
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,479
I'd want the house from Call Me by Your Name

1870
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:36,119
Never leave it ever, that's that's my I wonder.

1871
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,359
Speaker 3: Too, that's a good idea as well. I would want

1872
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:43,159
to be in one of the mansions from hit Man

1873
01:26:43,399 --> 01:26:44,000
and just be.

1874
01:26:44,079 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 2: Like the Paris one.

1875
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously the hit Man wouldn't be there for me.

1876
01:26:48,319 --> 01:26:50,159
Speaker 1: Even the house in Hawk's Bay and New Zealand is

1877
01:26:50,199 --> 01:26:51,039
pretty awesome too.

1878
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 2: What about the bedroom and train spotting with the dead

1879
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:54,800
baby crawling on the ceiling.

1880
01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna go weird with yours. I want to and

1881
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,000
I want to be in the room where Jennifer Connelly

1882
01:27:04,039 --> 01:27:05,239
has a two sided dildo.

1883
01:27:07,359 --> 01:27:09,199
Speaker 2: I think you're making it sound more fun than that

1884
01:27:09,239 --> 01:27:12,000
scene was. Yep, you're leaving out some details.

1885
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,199
Speaker 1: No, I'm going to be on the other end of it. No,

1886
01:27:16,359 --> 01:27:18,119
it would be uh, you know, it would be the

1887
01:27:18,119 --> 01:27:20,000
house will Call Me by Your Name. I also really

1888
01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:22,279
like whatever, how what's my favorite house from a video

1889
01:27:22,359 --> 01:27:26,239
game or a movie? Like, what would be my favorite

1890
01:27:26,279 --> 01:27:27,239
home from one of.

1891
01:27:27,159 --> 01:27:28,520
Speaker 2: Those Sapienza one?

1892
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: For me?

1893
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot in hippand they're all these huge ornate things.

1894
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: The house behind the winery in we want.

1895
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 5: To live in the Burj Khalifa. You know, I have

1896
01:27:37,079 --> 01:27:39,279
a'm a I'm a girl with a small.

1897
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,560
Speaker 1: Dream, small and tall, you know what I.

1898
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:49,239
Speaker 5: Mean, tallest in the world, as they say, the Khalifa tallest.

1899
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, what if it was like pluribus and

1900
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,119
you could have Air Force one come pick you up

1901
01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:57,880
right now and you could go anywhere. That's basically what

1902
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:58,359
we talked.

1903
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is better because supposedly in this world

1904
01:28:04,039 --> 01:28:08,119
it's not miserable. You would just be everybody environment.

1905
01:28:08,319 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could also get so many things from

1906
01:28:12,119 --> 01:28:14,840
Like I could fly to New York and get a

1907
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,560
great slicepez at where I can just have everyone knows

1908
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,880
how to make it here in Minnesota, you know. Yeah,

1909
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:24,600
if it was plurbist, you know, yeah.

1910
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: If you were pluribist, these things wouldn't be as fun.

1911
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,039
But I will say if I was pluribist, being in

1912
01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:32,880
bug snacks would still be pretty delightful.

1913
01:28:33,079 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: I would like being in bugs bug snacks.

1914
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that'd be like a bad assid trip

1915
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,560
being in bug snacks. I don't know, in the situation

1916
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:41,840
where you also a bug snack.

1917
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,079
Speaker 2: I think you're a human. I mean, it gets pretty

1918
01:28:44,119 --> 01:28:46,960
weird by the end, but for ninety five percent of

1919
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,039
bug snacks, it would be a good time.

1920
01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: Oh here's a question. I don't think we've ever asked,

1921
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:54,319
what would if you were a bug snack? Describe your form?

1922
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,439
Cool ranch you'd be that's not You're just a buddle

1923
01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,439
of cool ranch.

1924
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 3: Anonymous with Oh, you're just cool ranch like a river.

1925
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm so tired. That really didn't even register that that's

1926
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:14,319
what you were saying.

1927
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 2: Is that on the periodic table. No, it comes in

1928
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,479
the form of a crispy triangle.

1929
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: I would be, Oh, I'd be bug snack.

1930
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 3: It would just be like a what's your favorite snack?

1931
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: Is my favorite snack?

1932
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:33,359
Speaker 2: You like pretzels?

1933
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,159
Speaker 1: I like pretzels. That's what you always say, Like what's

1934
01:29:37,119 --> 01:29:38,640
your we have around the house and you guys visit,

1935
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,199
I say pretzels. That's like my basic.

1936
01:29:40,359 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 3: Wait, I know what you would be, Mike. You'd be

1937
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,560
a fucking banana because every day for breakfast, and they're

1938
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,039
also hard and alert, and I just think that that's you.

1939
01:29:49,319 --> 01:29:51,079
Speaker 1: Oh, I've got it. It would be a banana from up

1940
01:29:51,119 --> 01:29:53,640
here and then where like the bottom point is. It'd

1941
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,720
be like the tip of a wine bottle as a dick.

1942
01:29:57,159 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 3: Okay, it would be a banana, but it's peeled upside down,

1943
01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:03,640
so your eyes are up here and then the peel

1944
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:07,039
is below and you're just like, you know, flapping your dog.

1945
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:11,039
Speaker 1: Round a banana that's like unpeeled, and there's actually instead

1946
01:30:11,039 --> 01:30:13,199
of banana inside, it's a bottle of wine that's just

1947
01:30:13,359 --> 01:30:14,800
spewing its stuff all over.

1948
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,039
Speaker 2: No, it's just a dick.

1949
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like one of the drawings from super Bad

1950
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:21,279
in his notebook.

1951
01:30:22,119 --> 01:30:24,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the mutations and mugenics.

1952
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you, Jessee, Vegas. We will try

1953
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,399
to visit soon. I have never been Vegas. Ah, Dan,

1954
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,159
you want to read this one from Nathan.

1955
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,119
Speaker 2: Sure Hey, fire Escapees. This winter, I took up skiing

1956
01:30:39,159 --> 01:30:41,119
in a big way. I always hated the idea of skiing.

1957
01:30:41,239 --> 01:30:43,439
Would get invitations to go, but say I didn't want

1958
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,800
to most because of money, the cold, didn't think I'd

1959
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,159
enjoyed it, et cetera. But now I love it. Dan's

1960
01:30:48,199 --> 01:30:50,760
distaste for dungeons and dragons made me think, what are

1961
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,600
some examples of times you were resistant to try something

1962
01:30:54,039 --> 01:30:56,239
only to find out you love it. PS. Mike, you

1963
01:30:56,279 --> 01:30:59,119
recommended Invisible Cities to me previously. It's one of my

1964
01:30:59,119 --> 01:31:01,039
favorite novels of all time. Thank you. It was Nathan

1965
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,279
from an Age, New Hampshire, things that we thought we

1966
01:31:05,319 --> 01:31:08,039
would hate and then we wound up liking. I mean,

1967
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,560
there was definitely like a lot of things that just

1968
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,640
like I had weird aversions too, I mean almost always

1969
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:19,439
because my dad where it's like coffee, wine like and

1970
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,279
things like like for ins nice dinners. That's a thing

1971
01:31:22,359 --> 01:31:24,560
where it's like my dad was always so so cheap

1972
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:25,960
and like he wouldn't even go to a fast food

1973
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,159
place if he doesn't have a cubon. That's still the case.

1974
01:31:28,399 --> 01:31:31,000
So like the idea of like going to a nice

1975
01:31:31,039 --> 01:31:34,319
dinner or something like that is so like would be

1976
01:31:34,399 --> 01:31:36,720
so mocked my entire life. And it's like once I

1977
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:40,760
just got like older and married and stuff, and it's like, yeah,

1978
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,520
we should go try all these nice places. It's like

1979
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,720
like this time living in Minneapolis versus the first time

1980
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,880
I lived there is completely different because I was just

1981
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,880
way more like my dad the first time, and I

1982
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,720
only ate cheap ass garbage and I still love cheapass garbage,

1983
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,720
but now we go to like nice restaurants and stuff

1984
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:57,119
and it's like, oh, I really like this and it

1985
01:31:57,159 --> 01:31:59,239
feels like you're really treating yourself and everything. And that's

1986
01:31:59,239 --> 01:32:02,800
the thing I never felt comfortable doing before was brain

1987
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:03,479
to not like it.

1988
01:32:04,279 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my big one would just be the beach.

1989
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:10,880
I've all, like, most of my life, I've hated the

1990
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:14,239
beach and I just I didn't like it. It takes

1991
01:32:14,359 --> 01:32:16,600
it's such an effort, and I'm like, I'm not talking

1992
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,279
like a little private thing you can walk on to

1993
01:32:18,359 --> 01:32:20,680
when you get an airbnb with like lake access or

1994
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,600
something that's always great. I'm talking like pack up the car,

1995
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,800
drive to the beach, and then like go down the beach,

1996
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,520
find the spot or you like, and then you're kind

1997
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,039
of surrounded by people. Marrying Amanda has changed my mind

1998
01:32:33,039 --> 01:32:35,880
and I get the appeal now, and also like, I mean,

1999
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,279
look at me. I'm not the best in sun for

2000
01:32:38,359 --> 01:32:41,920
prolonged periods of time, but I've started to embrace like

2001
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:43,960
the zen of it when you do it to go

2002
01:32:44,119 --> 01:32:46,159
just relax and I'll like dip into the water every

2003
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:47,560
once in a while, come back out, lay in the

2004
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,520
sun and then I'll just read like an entire book

2005
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,039
all day. I used to hate the beach. It was

2006
01:32:52,079 --> 01:32:56,880
like my least favorite outdoor activity. Not a biome, you

2007
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,000
know what I mean. But I'm I'm I still wouldn't

2008
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:03,239
I'm a beach guy, But you see the appeal. Now

2009
01:33:03,319 --> 01:33:05,760
I see the appeal and I embrace it every summer,

2010
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:06,199
for sure.

2011
01:33:07,039 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 3: I think that's nice. Like we're all I would consider

2012
01:33:10,039 --> 01:33:12,800
moderately stubborn people. So it's good to be able to

2013
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:16,399
like recognize growth and be like I can like these things.

2014
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:21,000
I can enjoy something I didn't like before. I've never

2015
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,439
been into sports. I've never felt like I could get

2016
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,399
into it. I don't care when I say sports, I

2017
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,159
mean like watching the game, right, It's just not something

2018
01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:35,560
that I do. But I had a double sports week

2019
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:39,239
because it was the Super Bowl, which I watched specifically

2020
01:33:39,319 --> 01:33:41,960
for Bad Bunny, and I ended up like liking watching

2021
01:33:42,359 --> 01:33:43,800
I actually didn't think the game was great, but like,

2022
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:48,039
I enjoyed watching it and I enjoyed watching the halftime show.

2023
01:33:48,399 --> 01:33:52,920
And then the next day I got tickets to a

2024
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,319
basketball game local, the Portland Blazers.

2025
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,199
Speaker 1: Wait, you went to a Blazer game? Who was that

2026
01:33:58,239 --> 01:33:59,279
when they're playing the Spurs.

2027
01:34:00,119 --> 01:34:02,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got free ticket seventy six ers.

2028
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,119
Speaker 1: Oh, the seventy six ers. That was a good game too.

2029
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 3: And I don't go to basketball games, nor do I

2030
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,479
watch them, and so I was like, this is gonna

2031
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:14,479
be silly, like I'm gonna go and probably be bored,

2032
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:19,640
and you guys, I was all in. I mean, I

2033
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,479
was amazed with how talented and entertaining the game was.

2034
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:27,159
The food was fucking good too, Dan, Like I specifically

2035
01:34:27,239 --> 01:34:29,000
say you, because I think often when you go to

2036
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,239
these things, you're like, it's gonna be like crappy nacho cheese. Dude,

2037
01:34:32,359 --> 01:34:34,960
it was like but it was like delicious. It had

2038
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,439
like pork roasted pork nachos and stuff like that, and

2039
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,680
the pretzels with the dippies and I got popcorn with

2040
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,199
all the fixings. I found five dollars beers. I was

2041
01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:50,439
going crazy and then yeah that's crazy, yes, wow, And

2042
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:52,760
I was. I was having so much fun, like I

2043
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:54,520
would like in college when you like go to a

2044
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,720
college game. I was like, it was I was a

2045
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:01,640
kid again. Their star player his name is too Money

2046
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:02,439
and so like he.

2047
01:35:03,079 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: Wait, who's for the Blazers.

2048
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just kept scoring and.

2049
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: You got Denny Afdia too, and we kept saying gorgeous

2050
01:35:12,119 --> 01:35:13,319
that Israeli sensation.

2051
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 3: They're all smoking. Yeah, but like how fun is it that?

2052
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:21,800
Like we just kept being like too money buckets, he's

2053
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,840
too good, Like it was so good, like enjoying these

2054
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,439
players and like the little jokes that they would do.

2055
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,920
They're all in green screens, like pretending to eat like

2056
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,720
McDonald's sandwiches because I think McDonald's was a sponsor, and

2057
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,079
it's just like I think I got into the whole thing,

2058
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,199
the crappy green screen of the players being like swoosh.

2059
01:35:40,239 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 4: You know.

2060
01:35:42,079 --> 01:35:44,279
Speaker 1: They do like to get the crowd going. During commercial

2061
01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:47,439
breaks and timeouts, they'll do like all right, everybody like

2062
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,279
and then they'll have the players do it on the

2063
01:35:50,279 --> 01:35:52,359
screen like record yeah.

2064
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 3: Bad bad, and it's it's but it's it's good, bad good,

2065
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,680
and they embrace it. Yeah, there doing it right, and

2066
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,800
they're probably getting paid like a decent amount to do it.

2067
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,920
And I think by the end of the game, yes,

2068
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:06,840
I was like five beers deep, but I was like

2069
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:12,640
I was full of nachos and popcorn. I got ice

2070
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,760
cream at some point. I remember I just remember every

2071
01:36:16,319 --> 01:36:20,159
quarter I was like a little snack and watch too money,

2072
01:36:20,279 --> 01:36:23,039
like fucking fuck these people up. It was so fun.

2073
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,479
We won like it was a crazy landslide.

2074
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,279
Speaker 1: To memory serves, it was good.

2075
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 3: It was a good game, and I left. I left

2076
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,520
being like I was wrong. Basketball's fun. Sports are fun.

2077
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,920
Going to a sports game is fun. I gotta get

2078
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,960
more into sports, and so I'm glad that I learned

2079
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,039
from that experience.

2080
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're going to Warriors Nicks in a few weeks

2081
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:49,720
in March. I can't wait. I've never been to a, uh,

2082
01:36:50,279 --> 01:36:53,119
that's cool, an NBA game. I've been to many basketball games,

2083
01:36:53,159 --> 01:36:55,199
but not NBA. But yeah, there's like for all the

2084
01:36:55,199 --> 01:36:57,680
people that scoff at sports, but I absolutely get that

2085
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,840
many aspects of the culture are very off putting. And

2086
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,800
I don't argue with that whatsoever. I was just telling Dan,

2087
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:07,920
like a lot of I will say, mostly guys in

2088
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,439
like certain circles. All they talk about when I'm trying to,

2089
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,039
like when I'm trying to watch the NBA is like

2090
01:37:12,039 --> 01:37:15,159
what their bets are, and I get it. Sometimes they'll

2091
01:37:15,319 --> 01:37:16,800
try to have fun and put like a ten dollars

2092
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,760
bet on, like the coin toss, the super Bowl. I'm like,

2093
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,800
all right, sure, whatever, but like it's taken over sports

2094
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,760
conversations so much that I really need to silo myself

2095
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,079
away from that. I'm not trying to be like holier

2096
01:37:29,079 --> 01:37:31,760
than thou, I just I actually really really enjoy basketball.

2097
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,239
I don't want to know what the over under is.

2098
01:37:33,279 --> 01:37:35,000
I don't want to know, Like I don't care about

2099
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,960
the bets, the betting odds. I just care more about,

2100
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,520
like what are the odds that this unskilled team is

2101
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,319
going to beat the skilled team as the underdog. But

2102
01:37:41,359 --> 01:37:45,920
like the communal aspect of going to certain sports, I

2103
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,319
will say I don't like go into football games. I

2104
01:37:48,359 --> 01:37:50,640
would much rather watch football on TV. And I don't

2105
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,359
even want really like watching football that better.

2106
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 3: Because the stadium is so big, you get a better

2107
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,800
view from the camera angle than you would in the

2108
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:03,239
auditorium where is the basketball game. I had a great view.

2109
01:38:03,319 --> 01:38:05,920
My view was better than the camera view. I could

2110
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,239
see the players, I could see everything. I felt like

2111
01:38:08,279 --> 01:38:12,079
I was fortunate to be in the auditorium for that one.

2112
01:38:12,119 --> 01:38:13,279
But football is too big.

2113
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,199
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like with football, the thing is like

2114
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:17,199
it almost behooves you to be higher up because it's

2115
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:19,039
so much better, like actually seeing the play and the

2116
01:38:19,039 --> 01:38:21,119
formations and everything. The higher up you are you can

2117
01:38:21,159 --> 01:38:23,720
actually kind of see what receivers are open and kind

2118
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,479
of see where everyone's at versus down below. It's a

2119
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:27,079
little harder.

2120
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 1: I know, I've been I like going to hockey games

2121
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,359
as well. I've never been to an NHL game, but

2122
01:38:32,399 --> 01:38:34,239
I've been to hockey games like college level, and I

2123
01:38:34,279 --> 01:38:36,520
always had fun there. But yeah, it's like the communal

2124
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,119
aspect of it, like the live show aspect of it,

2125
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:42,079
the unpredictability of the show. It's not like you're going

2126
01:38:42,119 --> 01:38:45,319
and seeing a set list. You're going to see something unpredictable.

2127
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:52,000
It's great, But yeah, I would say like the that's

2128
01:38:52,079 --> 01:38:54,359
probably mine would be the beach.

2129
01:38:55,079 --> 01:38:58,199
Speaker 2: I thought of a real obvious one for me, yoga,

2130
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:02,039
where if you would have asked me in college or like, oh,

2131
01:39:02,039 --> 01:39:03,640
what do you think yoga is, I'd be like, Oh.

2132
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: That's the hippie, nippy, new ag bullshit thing.

2133
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 3: I assume that's what college can do.

2134
01:39:10,359 --> 01:39:13,359
Speaker 2: Was to say no, I just would have like really

2135
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:14,720
belittled it quite a bit.

2136
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,119
Speaker 1: And it's like he's he's changed.

2137
01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, But I think when I say like, sorry,

2138
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,680
that's like rude. Uh, and it's a derogatory term, but

2139
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,039
I mean, I mean that like in a college gross

2140
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,159
boy way, I.

2141
01:39:28,119 --> 01:39:33,199
Speaker 2: Would have been anything that anything that read like new

2142
01:39:33,239 --> 01:39:35,600
age or whatever. It's like, oh, this is bullshit. Like

2143
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,319
I would probably the same thing about meditation at a

2144
01:39:37,359 --> 01:39:39,760
certain point. I remember you remember the show Penn and

2145
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:44,000
Teller's Bullshit. It was basically just these two Well here's

2146
01:39:44,039 --> 01:39:47,079
one very loud libertarian guy being like, here's why this

2147
01:39:47,159 --> 01:39:49,760
thing sucks and it's stupid. And that was the whole show,

2148
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,800
and it had like six seasons or something, and one

2149
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,079
of the episodes was yoga. And I liked the show,

2150
01:39:55,399 --> 01:39:59,359
and yeah, this was just stretching. They're just stretching. This

2151
01:39:59,399 --> 01:40:02,319
is stupid. It's not disperancy, parents, blah blah blah, meditative

2152
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:06,319
And it's like I always dismissed it. And then do

2153
01:40:06,359 --> 01:40:08,439
you remember P ninety X, Yeah.

2154
01:40:08,319 --> 01:40:12,359
Speaker 3: Yes, there remember P ninety X, who wouldn't shut up

2155
01:40:12,399 --> 01:40:13,640
about right people.

2156
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 2: Got with Tim. Terry got me into when we were

2157
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:16,520
a game informer. So it's like, you know, like twenty

2158
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,479
ten or whatever, and I'm.

2159
01:40:17,319 --> 01:40:19,159
Speaker 3: Just looking Terry was a P ninety x er.

2160
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 2: Yes, he loved it. That's funny, Tim, I think would

2161
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,560
be okay with me saying this. Tim is such a

2162
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,800
kind hearted Minnesotan boy that he pirated P ninety X

2163
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,720
and it's oh yeah, and I did. He thought, you

2164
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,479
know what, I've gotten such good use out of this.

2165
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,000
I need to buy it and pay Tony Horton for

2166
01:40:37,079 --> 01:40:38,880
you know, all that good he's brought to my life.

2167
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:42,319
Oh what a pure man that Tim Terry is. He's like,

2168
01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:44,079
this man has helped me out. I'm going to pay

2169
01:40:44,119 --> 01:40:44,359
for this.

2170
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,039
Speaker 1: I still do some like calisthenics from like the ab

2171
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:49,800
Ripper DVD that he did, and I still I can

2172
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,720
hear him in my in my head sometimes saying like

2173
01:40:53,119 --> 01:40:55,159
I hate this one, but I love it.

2174
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,159
Speaker 2: See the same videos a million times. Remember Tony Warton

2175
01:40:58,319 --> 01:41:00,359
bending over doing these like arm things, like you're just

2176
01:41:00,399 --> 01:41:01,840
sturn up a big soup, but you know you got

2177
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:03,119
a nice bisk What do you got over there?

2178
01:41:03,159 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: You got a potato soup? You got it?

2179
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 4: Like that?

2180
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,319
Speaker 2: Dumb shit? Yeah, But like I was doing that, and

2181
01:41:07,359 --> 01:41:09,039
it was like each day would be some different so

2182
01:41:09,079 --> 01:41:11,239
like oh it's upper body here, it's cardio for Thursdays

2183
01:41:11,239 --> 01:41:13,359
and Wednesdays was yoga day, and I remember being like,

2184
01:41:13,359 --> 01:41:15,079
all right, if I'm gonna try this thing, I'm gonna

2185
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:15,760
like actually follow.

2186
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 1: I got to be a.

2187
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 3: Real cool guy that I respect.

2188
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, she wasn't like cool, but it was still like,

2189
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:23,239
this is like a workout program. Oh, this is just

2190
01:41:23,239 --> 01:41:24,319
like a workout thing.

2191
01:41:24,279 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah for men, right, and I tried it.

2192
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 2: I was like, but then I immediately started going to

2193
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:30,439
classes and stuff and I was like the only dude

2194
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:31,760
in most of these, But it was like, no, this

2195
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:33,800
is a fucking great workout. I love it. Like I

2196
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:35,840
never attached it to any kind of like I think

2197
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:38,560
I mistakenly thought, and people still think that's about yoga.

2198
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,840
They don't know anything about yoga is that it's like, oh,

2199
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:44,119
everyone attaches some like mystical element to it, and you

2200
01:41:44,199 --> 01:41:46,479
will get that. Like I've gone to enough actual yoga

2201
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,279
classes that you'll definitely get those teachers that are just like, oh,

2202
01:41:49,359 --> 01:41:51,840
open the hard chakra or this and this is you know,

2203
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,199
they get way more flowery with the stuff. But then

2204
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:57,479
it is also just like a fucking workout, like I

2205
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:00,279
do the Elicon yoga stuff, like all the time out in.

2206
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 3: Your body to lift your own body weight.

2207
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,520
Speaker 1: It was like there's there's like the Dragon where you're

2208
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,079
doing this for like at the end of the class

2209
01:42:07,079 --> 01:42:09,279
for an hour or it's like for like ten minutes

2210
01:42:09,279 --> 01:42:11,199
straight in your shoulders are just on fire.

2211
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh no, there's like the power of Benasa Flow

2212
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:16,520
stuff that is just you know, really fast up and

2213
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,680
a lot of like you know, planks and basically push

2214
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:19,399
ups and things like that.

2215
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,359
Speaker 3: Do pilates, Dan, I haven't.

2216
01:42:21,159 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 2: Done pilties that's on that is on peloton as well,

2217
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:24,800
and I've never tried it.

2218
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,079
Speaker 3: I would be open to it, really like to hear

2219
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:30,560
what you think of pilates, because pilates is all like

2220
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:34,159
you're going to use all your body weight to do

2221
01:42:34,199 --> 01:42:36,479
this move and it's very difficult.

2222
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,119
Speaker 2: But yoga ask I should try it because like core

2223
01:42:41,159 --> 01:42:43,319
strength has always been my weak point and you do

2224
01:42:43,399 --> 01:42:45,760
need it for running. Oh it'll get you so like

2225
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,640
I do need to do more cour shit, So like

2226
01:42:48,079 --> 01:42:49,399
I should do the peloton stuff.

2227
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:51,199
Speaker 3: And I love I'd love to see what you think

2228
01:42:51,279 --> 01:42:53,479
I've seen. I don't know why, but I think the

2229
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,760
Alger of the months on YouTube was like men doing

2230
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,760
pilates and it was all these like really strong men

2231
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:58,720
being like, oh, I.

2232
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 1: Wonder why it's hard.

2233
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 3: It's hard on your core, it's hard on your should

2234
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,439
try it on your on your muscles, and you have

2235
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:08,079
to you have to deal with your own weight.

2236
01:43:08,199 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 1: That's its purpose, body weight exercise.

2237
01:43:10,079 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tell me, tell me how it goes.

2238
01:43:12,119 --> 01:43:14,079
Speaker 1: I have a friend who does a lot of solid core.

2239
01:43:14,279 --> 01:43:17,359
Is that similar to Pilate's do you know? So? Yeah,

2240
01:43:18,079 --> 01:43:20,199
it's like a newer one, but it's also like specific

2241
01:43:20,239 --> 01:43:22,000
company doing like they have.

2242
01:43:22,159 --> 01:43:23,520
Speaker 3: There's a lot of forms.

2243
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,159
Speaker 2: Okay, an orange orange fitness, orange theory whatever.

2244
01:43:27,359 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 3: I'm sure people who are really into it would probably

2245
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:31,399
be like, no, they're very different. But to me as

2246
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,079
an outsider who who like dabbles, I dabble in yoga,

2247
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:36,079
I dabble in pilates and dabble in all these things

2248
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,520
just to like mix it up, because I get bored

2249
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:42,920
with workout routines really fast, and so every two weeks

2250
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,479
I usually start a different program and do it until

2251
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:46,399
I get bored of it.

2252
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:48,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2253
01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:50,279
Speaker 3: So I've I've done a lot of different versions of them,

2254
01:43:50,279 --> 01:43:52,079
but I'll never forget pilates.

2255
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:54,039
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta try it.

2256
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you, Nathan. I will get this

2257
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:02,079
last one. Thanks to Dan I have the song Bundle

2258
01:44:02,119 --> 01:44:05,239
of Nerves playing in my head constantly. It's a waking nightmare,

2259
01:44:05,359 --> 01:44:08,720
only lessened by the images of and by the image

2260
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,880
of Mike Manatti in a wig, appearing to be so

2261
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,800
frustrated he's trying to pull the fake hairs out of

2262
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,920
his head, and that one day Dan will us. It's

2263
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,880
only lessened also by the idea that one day Dan

2264
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,000
will indeed pay. So, what's the worst song you've ever

2265
01:44:23,039 --> 01:44:28,479
had stuck in your head? Yours faithfully, Alex in Bendigo, Australia,

2266
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:34,000
probably like it's also the worst song would probably be

2267
01:44:34,119 --> 01:44:35,279
Mombo number five.

2268
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 2: That's for You is incredible yep. Or he just won't

2269
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,520
stop cranking turn it off.

2270
01:44:43,399 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 1: That one guy legitimately freaking out with the far Backs. Oh,

2271
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:49,640
actually no, I have one other one. And this is

2272
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,479
like one of the things that Amanda was very surprised

2273
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:55,399
after we got married to learn that I knew most

2274
01:44:55,399 --> 01:45:00,239
of the song country Girl by Luke Bryan by heart.

2275
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,960
I listened to a I had a friend when I

2276
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,920
was in Sarakee, still living there, Like there was a

2277
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,640
surprising amount of country music going around in Central New York.

2278
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,079
So I still to this day can remember most of

2279
01:45:11,159 --> 01:45:15,520
Country Girl. I'm sorry, Yeah, that's unfortunate. I carry it

2280
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:15,800
with me.

2281
01:45:16,319 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 3: It's a bob when the lyrics get stuck in there.

2282
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:24,159
I have a I have a vivid memory of being

2283
01:45:24,199 --> 01:45:29,760
in San Francisco working at at game spot, so poor

2284
01:45:30,399 --> 01:45:36,359
and uh, really wanting to get a massage. I think

2285
01:45:36,359 --> 01:45:38,159
I pulled something and I was like, oh, I think

2286
01:45:38,159 --> 01:45:40,159
a massage will really fix me up. But I can't

2287
01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:43,039
afford to get like a fancy massage from a fancy place.

2288
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:47,840
I'll go to one of those nail salons where I saw,

2289
01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:49,760
you know, a sign in the window this and we

2290
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,960
also will do a massage and facial for like sixty bucks.

2291
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:54,880
And I was like, that's a good deal, like a

2292
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,399
sixty dollars massage. I'll just go there. And so I

2293
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:00,479
go to this. I book it in advance and I

2294
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:05,279
go and there's these curtains that separate you from the

2295
01:46:05,359 --> 01:46:09,640
nail salon. It's not a room, it's curtains. And that

2296
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,920
was not a great start. But I was like, that's fine,

2297
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:15,239
this is a affordable massage. I just want someone to

2298
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,920
help me feel better. I can deal with it. And

2299
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:23,119
I get on the table and the ladies like uh

2300
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:28,600
has her own music. It's basically a boom box that's

2301
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,359
like in the corner and she's putting on a song

2302
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:35,199
or whatever, and she starts to massage me and the

2303
01:46:35,239 --> 01:46:38,600
song comes on and it's Timber by Pitbull.

2304
01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: And Kesha, Yes what it's massage.

2305
01:46:46,319 --> 01:46:49,560
Speaker 3: It's a nail salon. Yeah, And I remember being like

2306
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,920
this is so odd, but like again, it's a very

2307
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:57,239
affordable massage. It's a local place that's probably starting their business.

2308
01:46:57,239 --> 01:46:59,359
I don't know, I'm going to leave it alone. And

2309
01:46:59,399 --> 01:47:02,600
so it's just like I'm getting a massage, like I'm

2310
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:07,039
yelling Timber. Yeah.

2311
01:47:07,079 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 1: It's just like a.

2312
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: Very strange st So the song ends. I'm still getting

2313
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:19,199
my massage. The song starts up again. The entire Timber

2314
01:47:19,279 --> 01:47:25,039
by Pitbull song plays a second time, and I'm like,

2315
01:47:25,279 --> 01:47:29,880
that's weird. That should not happen in a playlist. That's uncomfortable.

2316
01:47:30,039 --> 01:47:32,319
I didn't like it the first time, I definitely don't

2317
01:47:32,359 --> 01:47:34,760
like it the second time. But I am not a

2318
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,760
complainer and I don't want to say anything. And so

2319
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:40,079
I sit there and get massaged for another round of

2320
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:45,920
Timber by Pitbull. The song ends, Timber by pit Bull

2321
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:51,359
plays a third time and I say, okay, I can't

2322
01:47:51,359 --> 01:47:52,960
do it, and she goes, all right.

2323
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 6: Well, let me look, and she sides like messing with

2324
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,399
the fucking boom box to put on a different song,

2325
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,560
and she finally puts down like a calm you know,

2326
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,199
like water track where it's just like liquid, like.

2327
01:48:05,399 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and I'm eating there. She knew she

2328
01:48:10,199 --> 01:48:13,359
had the other one ready because she knew at some

2329
01:48:13,399 --> 01:48:15,560
point she would annoy someone with Timber.

2330
01:48:16,119 --> 01:48:20,039
Speaker 3: So I'm sitting there getting my massaged like running water

2331
01:48:20,199 --> 01:48:22,359
and in my fucking head for the rest of this

2332
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,119
forty five minute massage. It was just like, let's make

2333
01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:30,520
a net. You won't remember. It's like it's stuck. It

2334
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,279
was stuck in my head the rest of my day.

2335
01:48:32,359 --> 01:48:36,680
This like fucking Pitbull song. So to this day, when

2336
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,920
I hear that song, I kind of I don't hate it,

2337
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:40,720
but I I laugh and I think of like the

2338
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:43,479
worst massage I've ever had when I kept hearing pibull.

2339
01:48:45,319 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 2: It's cheaper though, if you just let it play pipple

2340
01:48:47,039 --> 01:48:48,600
the whole time, they give your discount for something.

2341
01:48:49,239 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 3: I think she everyone seemed fine with it, but me,

2342
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,840
I was the only person that was like is this

2343
01:48:57,159 --> 01:49:00,159
is this acceptable to everyone else here? Like, I don't

2344
01:49:00,199 --> 01:49:02,600
understand how you can play this once, let alone three

2345
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,920
times and think I'm not going to say something.

2346
01:49:07,199 --> 01:49:11,279
Speaker 2: Mine was like a three month period in nineteen ninety nine.

2347
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:15,159
I was working at AMC thirty theaters inlate the Kansas

2348
01:49:15,239 --> 01:49:18,000
and we I think it was probably the summer because

2349
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,000
I remember working there like every day like long shifts

2350
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,439
and stuff, and we would get these CDs every month

2351
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,760
and it was movie tunes and it was just the

2352
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,479
background music that would play at the theaters basically, and

2353
01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:30,000
you know, it was just like it was like the

2354
01:49:30,039 --> 01:49:31,960
CD length, so it's like what like an hour and

2355
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,119
a half maybe, because you know, people wouldn't would just

2356
01:49:34,119 --> 01:49:35,800
hear while they in line for Popcorn River, but we

2357
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,880
would hear it on repeat every day. And I remember

2358
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:43,720
living Levita Loco is on there. That's fine, But I

2359
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,399
think this must have been really popular or just came

2360
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,199
out or they paid to be on movie tunes or whatever.

2361
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:50,960
That song Smooth by Carlos Santana and Rob Thomas.

2362
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was.

2363
01:49:52,079 --> 01:49:55,239
Speaker 2: It's also It's Jimps and Chimps in About the mid

2364
01:49:55,359 --> 01:49:58,800
Day Son that one that was on that season like

2365
01:49:59,039 --> 01:50:02,520
three times. So every day I was hearing that song

2366
01:50:03,079 --> 01:50:06,640
like dozens of times, and for some reason, we didn't

2367
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,439
get new movie tune CDs for like a couple months,

2368
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:11,680
so there was a stretch of like three like It's

2369
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:13,560
probably the song I've heard the most in my life

2370
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:14,079
because of that.

2371
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 1: I've thought about this before. I used to hate getting

2372
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:21,560
a song stuck in my head. Now I don't mind

2373
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,479
it as much, And I wonder if it used to

2374
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:26,560
be more annoying because we'd have it stuck in our

2375
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:29,159
head and then we'd have like those five CDs in

2376
01:50:29,239 --> 01:50:33,840
our car or that one cassette tape, whereas now it's like,

2377
01:50:34,079 --> 01:50:35,439
I think it's harder for a song to get stuck

2378
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,359
on heavy because we have access to Spotify like any

2379
01:50:37,399 --> 01:50:40,720
song we want in our pocket. So maybe it's not

2380
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,119
like I'm not tied to like Danny California was stuck

2381
01:50:43,159 --> 01:50:44,840
in my head for like years because we just had

2382
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,279
Stadium Arcadium in the car. Su great song still, but

2383
01:50:47,399 --> 01:50:51,680
like I still I have other options if I want

2384
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:54,520
to go away from like snow Hao every once in

2385
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:54,840
a while.

2386
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 2: That's very specific. Yeah, just just one of Stadium Arcadian.

2387
01:51:01,359 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Mars, Yeah, I don't think that if you

2388
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:07,399
had to listen to Santana for the rest of your

2389
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,800
life that you would be like, I don't mind it.

2390
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,960
I don't mind having Santana in my head for the

2391
01:51:13,079 --> 01:51:14,119
rest of my days.

2392
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,520
Speaker 1: It's weird that I will have the eras.

2393
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,880
Speaker 2: I'll have eras of my life where it's like I

2394
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,840
will have one song that is the song that I

2395
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,359
default to. You could ask Jason ah Striker any fucking

2396
01:51:24,399 --> 01:51:27,199
time we were getting ready to start a video replay

2397
01:51:27,239 --> 01:51:29,479
a game informer a quick look at Giant Bomb, I

2398
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,520
would be humming without even realizing it, Uh, take me

2399
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:36,800
Home Tonight by Eddie Money Run Babe, my little baby.

2400
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:38,920
I would just feel like and he would like remember

2401
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,479
one time he started singing and I was like, wait,

2402
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:41,760
did you know I would He's like, dang, you've been

2403
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:43,720
humming that for like five years or something.

2404
01:51:44,279 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 3: Wow. That would get to me.

2405
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 2: I would say, take me Home Tonight was like five

2406
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,680
to twenty sixteen, and then I had a period, let's

2407
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:53,920
say twenty sixteen to like twenty twenty three where it

2408
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,840
was the Stroke by Billy Squire or like Merma Stroke.

2409
01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:59,119
May Maybe it's.

2410
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 1: Maybe you're singing these songs for us as if we

2411
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:03,640
don't know the song, just sure.

2412
01:52:04,279 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 2: But these are in my head for many years time,

2413
01:52:06,039 --> 01:52:09,159
and for some reason, the last like three years it

2414
01:52:09,279 --> 01:52:10,960
has just been the limbo song.

2415
01:52:14,119 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 4: Deeper It, Burtter Jack Dunder, Candlestick, Jerk Brander canderstick that one.

2416
01:52:21,039 --> 01:52:24,159
Actually then you do a limbo rock Hey, hell can

2417
01:52:24,279 --> 01:52:27,279
you go? That was like, it's fucking insane.

2418
01:52:27,319 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 2: It's in my head.

2419
01:52:28,319 --> 01:52:30,359
Speaker 3: The lyric Candlestick was in there because I had no

2420
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:31,880
idea what you were singing.

2421
01:52:32,279 --> 01:52:36,279
Speaker 2: Every fucking day, I will just be walking Like I

2422
01:52:36,399 --> 01:52:38,000
was living with Kaila for like two months when I

2423
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:39,560
was waiting for my house to close, and at one

2424
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,319
point she was like, stop fucking singing the lingo limbo song.

2425
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:45,520
Speaker 3: That would drive me absolutely bonkers.

2426
01:52:46,359 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 4: Do that.

2427
01:52:48,199 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 2: Like to this day, I was probably humming it a man.

2428
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 1: It gets mad at me because I like, like, we'll

2429
01:52:53,079 --> 01:52:55,399
sing stuff like that around the house and get earworms

2430
01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:57,640
in her head. Yeah, some of them I just make

2431
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,920
up when I'm doing something. But like I've been a

2432
01:53:00,239 --> 01:53:04,000
Billy Joel phase lately. And have you heard the song

2433
01:53:04,119 --> 01:53:09,159
down Easter Alexa. It's just an entire ballad about a

2434
01:53:09,279 --> 01:53:12,279
guy who lives like on Long Island. He's a fisherman

2435
01:53:12,359 --> 01:53:13,960
and he has to sell his house and live on

2436
01:53:14,039 --> 01:53:17,039
his boat and fish because there's no money in being

2437
01:53:17,239 --> 01:53:20,760
just the bait man at the docks anymore. It's crazy.

2438
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:26,119
Speaker 2: Around the house.

2439
01:53:26,279 --> 01:53:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like everybody loves it. It sounds like

2440
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,720
nobody's upset. You're singing downs.

2441
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:38,319
Speaker 1: Just I'll just break out shower when I'm cooking like.

2442
01:53:38,359 --> 01:53:43,039
Speaker 3: That, like you're an opera singer. I am man, go down.

2443
01:53:43,199 --> 01:53:47,239
Speaker 1: No, My my falsetto is my bravados. I don't know.

2444
01:53:47,319 --> 01:53:52,119
The difference are fucking legendary. I can really, I can lilt.

2445
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,560
Speaker 3: Every man thinks they can do a falsetto, and every

2446
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:56,600
man is wrong.

2447
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 1: I do not think I can thank you.

2448
01:53:58,159 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 2: Oh really, it's still id of like the I believe

2449
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:04,479
in a thing called love.

2450
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:10,119
Speaker 3: That's like, that's a very intense version of it. I

2451
01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:14,119
would say, like it's usually when a guy raises his

2452
01:54:14,319 --> 01:54:18,520
voice an unextractive but that's that's almost like a silly

2453
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:21,000
version of it. Like I don't think, but I think

2454
01:54:21,039 --> 01:54:24,279
a falsetto is more like when a guy sings in

2455
01:54:24,319 --> 01:54:28,800
a high high voice, okay, but sweetly softly, And it's

2456
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:30,680
still very difficult to do.

2457
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,239
Speaker 1: God rewatching mcgoober the other night. I still think every

2458
01:54:34,279 --> 01:54:37,680
time we watch that movie. My favorite bit, the one

2459
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,159
that like I have to pause the movie is when

2460
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:43,199
he's like, what about your singing career? She's like, it

2461
01:54:43,479 --> 01:54:44,159
can wait?

2462
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 2: Do you just stick rendering the credits. They have that

2463
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,800
whole song christ and Wig and will Porte the rock

2464
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,960
my body that it's incredible.

2465
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:59,079
Speaker 1: Rock rock rock rock rock mine. I also just love

2466
01:54:59,279 --> 01:55:04,279
like it goes on un commented on just her obsession

2467
01:55:04,319 --> 01:55:04,880
with owls.

2468
01:55:05,199 --> 01:55:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.

2469
01:55:06,199 --> 01:55:08,279
Speaker 1: They don't mention it at all, aside from putting a

2470
01:55:08,479 --> 01:55:11,439
ship a ton of them in the in the house

2471
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:12,079
pays off.

2472
01:55:12,119 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 2: After you watched it fifty sixty times, you'll notice a

2473
01:55:14,319 --> 01:55:16,960
little there's some very subtle jokes and very not subtle

2474
01:55:17,039 --> 01:55:17,680
jokes in that movie.

2475
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, well thank you Alex from Bendigo. That's

2476
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:28,880
our show. Like I said, fire Escape Cast at gmail

2477
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:34,000
dot com. Get that inbox overflowing like it Tusca Lake

2478
01:55:35,159 --> 01:55:36,640
down the Mississippi, like.

2479
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:40,159
Speaker 3: Dan is a cool ranch in bug snacks, Like.

2480
01:55:40,239 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: Dan's cool ranch puddle in bug snacks. Get that get

2481
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,119
that inbox.

2482
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 3: Oohs, and you're like a banana walking around with your

2483
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:53,119
wiener out walking through bug snacks?

2484
01:55:53,279 --> 01:55:54,119
Speaker 1: Wait, what would yours be?

2485
01:55:54,239 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: Did we? We got?

2486
01:55:55,119 --> 01:55:59,119
Speaker 1: We got the puddles, we got the puddle of cool ranch,

2487
01:55:59,159 --> 01:56:00,840
We got the banana. What's yours?

2488
01:56:02,159 --> 01:56:09,119
Speaker 2: I don't know your your anthropomorphic banana, human cock, human shiman.

2489
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:13,119
Speaker 3: Dick out of an open banana? Yes, and a puddle

2490
01:56:13,279 --> 01:56:15,359
of cool ranch. No dorito?

2491
01:56:16,199 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: No, I was.

2492
01:56:19,319 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 3: You have to be clear with your words when I.

2493
01:56:21,039 --> 01:56:23,119
Speaker 2: Say cool ranch. Trust me, I'm thinking about a dorito.

2494
01:56:23,359 --> 01:56:24,199
Speaker 3: Nobody knows that.

2495
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: Oh come on, really, no, I just didn't register. But yeah, Mary,

2496
01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:29,399
what's yours? Quick?

2497
01:56:29,479 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't think about it. I should

2498
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:32,119
have been on.

2499
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 1: The spot when I came up with banana dick wine bottle.

2500
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 3: I came up with banana dick, sir, Oh you did,

2501
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:40,479
thank you? Yeah you do mine?

2502
01:56:41,399 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 4: Uh?

2503
01:56:42,039 --> 01:56:46,319
Speaker 1: A cores like can I did not.

2504
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,239
Speaker 3: With two legs coming.

2505
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 2: Out of it, with two legs with bowling shoes on,

2506
01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:58,359
and the video patrons are really feasting this week?

2507
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:03,039
Speaker 1: Yep, and and uh and then got any one more

2508
01:57:03,079 --> 01:57:07,560
detail to really sell it stick in people's heads, and

2509
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,560
a dick here and then the head and then yeah,

2510
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:15,359
a human dick coming out two dicks. I've always wanted to.

2511
01:57:15,439 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 3: Have two dicks. This is my magical happy place that

2512
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,680
I will go to after the show because I'm allowed

2513
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:25,279
to go anywhere that I want.

2514
01:57:25,319 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 1: One one dick.

2515
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 3: You know, we got range.

2516
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,359
Speaker 2: You know, we get range as a podcast when we

2517
01:57:33,399 --> 01:57:35,359
can be this. Mugenics humor is a bit.

2518
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 1: Here's here's the pairing list from my trip to a Ruba. Ja.

2519
01:57:45,039 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 3: Edit this so that we say Musgenics is a little

2520
01:57:47,960 --> 01:57:51,279
distasteful and then say two dicks, one for sucking and

2521
01:57:51,399 --> 01:57:55,000
one for fucking. Maybe Mugenics is perfect.

2522
01:57:56,399 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 1: It's real good.

2523
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad it came around.

2524
01:57:58,119 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 3: Maybe there's nothing wrong with it and it's totally fine.

2525
01:58:01,079 --> 01:58:03,319
Watchcats fucking and given birth.

2526
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:08,079
Speaker 1: Dying. Yeah, if you do want the video version of

2527
01:58:08,119 --> 01:58:10,399
the show, you can go to our Patreon, go to

2528
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:14,199
firescape cast dot com, or to deep dish Pussy dot com,

2529
01:58:14,279 --> 01:58:16,640
which I did re up. We still have the domain.

2530
01:58:17,439 --> 01:58:21,800
It's a business expense good. You can also get ad

2531
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:23,399
free episodes, or you can just treat it like a

2532
01:58:23,439 --> 01:58:24,840
tip jar if you appreciate what we do and like

2533
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:29,359
listening to our normal ad filled episodes. We will be

2534
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,960
back in two weeks. However, before then, Dan, what do

2535
01:58:32,039 --> 01:58:33,399
you have going on in the meantime.

2536
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 2: Giintbomb dot com. Check out the new website. Check out

2537
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,439
we got new stuff going on. We're doing new premium shows.

2538
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:43,560
We got Abby Russell kicking up her new show any

2539
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,600
day now depending on when you're listening to this, and

2540
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:49,880
some other stuff very much in the works that we

2541
01:58:50,079 --> 01:58:54,439
look forward to announcing very soon. Maybe even listeners this

2542
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,720
podcast would be particularly interested in.

2543
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:01,079
Speaker 3: Cool. I love Abby. It's awesome to hear her joining

2544
01:59:01,159 --> 01:59:03,399
forces with you guys again, and it's cool that you're

2545
01:59:03,439 --> 01:59:07,479
able to do that for people that really I think

2546
01:59:07,479 --> 01:59:09,439
what's neat about this new version of Giant Bomb is

2547
01:59:09,479 --> 01:59:11,319
like you don't need to like ask for permission. You

2548
01:59:11,399 --> 01:59:13,840
can just be like, we like this person, You're back,

2549
01:59:14,119 --> 01:59:15,000
and I think that's sick.

2550
01:59:15,239 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 2: We can just pick and yes, we got her doing

2551
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:21,680
a Tomadauci life dating game show basically, which is I

2552
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:25,279
feel it's kind of a spiritual successor to yea, yeah, No.

2553
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:30,439
We're all dating and there are different like good ones

2554
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on the island for us edate that we get more

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points for and bad ones if we date them. And

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then there's also a roving shack Shaquille O'Neal, and he's

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worth the most points if you date Shack. But there's

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also an evil Shack named Shat, and if you date him,

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you lose a bunch of points. So I was really

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put together something special here, and that's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Be very special.

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Speaker 1: John Bom, Mike, what are you up to? Vinnie and

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I are still playing Total War Warhammer three. I think

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we're getting toward the end of each campaign, but they're

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definitely very, very eventful. We are playing the good campaign.

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He's playing as Imrick and the High Elves and the

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Dragon Collectors. I'm playing as Oxeaddle, the chameleon who goes

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in and out of the realms of chaos and just

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kind of like polices the world that's heating up on

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fire Escape. You'll get that if you're a video patron,

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and if you're not a patron for Nextlander, go do

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so because we are playing a separate also co op

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campaign for Next Lander content as evil characters, and Vinnie's

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being the skull Taker. He's actually really cool. He's one

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of those characters that might convert you. Dan He's not

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going to, but he's a demon with a cape made

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of skulls pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'll get into Warhammer at some point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll then you'll have another thing that you were

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resistant to, and then you love.

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Speaker 2: I play a little space marine. I'm like, oh wait,

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maybe Warhammer's cool.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's sci fi. That's forty k oh gets confusing

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talking fantasy.

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Speaker 3: There's just no I'm talking fantasy.

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Speaker 2: You can't have any two different things.

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Speaker 1: I'll let them know, but we'll be back in two

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weeks with episode one twenty seven of the fire Escape Cast.

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Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Also stream on twitch.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Mary stream, did I ask you what you

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were doing?

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Speaker 2: So you were quiet for an uncomfortable period of time

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since she filled the dead air by asking you what

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you were doing? Is what happened was, yeah, I've clearly

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finished my thing, and then it was dead air for

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like just good four seconds. And Mary's like, how about

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you bike?

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Speaker 1: What was I doing looking down? Losing it?

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Speaker 3: It's the banana.

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't even remember zoning out.

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Speaker 2: Oh check the video. You're just like looking down, just

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a marriage the ball.

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Speaker 1: Oh I've been playing with this fidgeting You've.

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Speaker 2: Had important work, Okay, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: Fidgeting with some little toy.

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Speaker 1: Oh to do you guys wait, have you have we

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talked about a fidget tool before? Do you guys have

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a fidget tool tools?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Told me about this gimick. Heure.

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Speaker 1: I like this guy I got. I got the one

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that's got different things on each side of the cube.

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Speaker 2: I've got one of the cubes.

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Speaker 1: They're nice and the metal ball is nice. It clicks.

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I like these. I should have had this out. That

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would have been less weird to hold out than this

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cap to a water bottle. Sorry, Mary, What do you

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have going on ice.

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Speaker 3: Stream on Twitch? It's 'e the same update as always

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ice stream on Twitch. I will say because I think

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this episode will go up on a Monday. I did

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my first ever Steam collection associated with wholesome games for

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the American Heart Association. So it's February if you all

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are interested. It's only available until the seventeenth. So unfortunately,

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if you see this late, it'll be too late. But

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I'm going to do these again. I think it's cool.

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It's a collection of games. It includes Peak, it includes

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what is it called a Short Hike? Oh my gosh,

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I love that game Fasmophobia. Anyway, buying those games a

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portion of all the proceeds goes to the American Heart Association.

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Because it is February, it's art month. Heart disease is

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like the leading cause of death worldwide. It's crazy. So, uh,

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this is a good opportunity to buy a game and

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a portion of the proceeds goes to basically the American

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Heart Association. How that was awesome as that anyway, So

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I put together this collection. Maybe we can link to it,

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no obligation, but it's kind of cool that all these

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games they did this on their own accord. We organized it.

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Shout out to Wholesome Games who helped U put it

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together and and and helped me launch this. I'm really

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proud of it.

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Speaker 1: Nice cool, that was great anyway, We'll be back in

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two weeks anyway, Bye bye

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Speaker 3: U.