Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It is TLC Tuesday.
I'm here with Kimberly to talk about ninety day fiancee.
Speaker 2: Hey girl, Hello, how are you good to see Mary Payne.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't know what the voice was.
That was weird. I was channeling someone else, but I
don't know who.
Speaker 1: Okay, make sure all your microphone is set correctly, because
two weeks ago it was too loud, and then last
week it was too soft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my mic I might need a new
mic because Katie also.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm not I right, Mike, now I am there
we go.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so much better.
Speaker 2: So much better. No, I do think my mic I
might need a new mic. So join our Patreon I
and it's off here.
Speaker 3: I yeah, she said that yesterday, and then we recorded
our Patreon last night, our live stream, and everyone in
the comments was saying I was really quiet, so I
had to turn my volume up.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 3: Might need a new mic, might need a new box. No,
no microphone box.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, okay, just making sure. Yeah, I have
to tell you that At the end of this episode,
Katie reveals that Josh's never gone down on her, to
which I say, TLC needs a new storyline, like we cannot.
I was like, I can't have two storylines as such.
Speaker 2: I thought you meant my Katie. Uh oh, sometimes you come.
Speaker 3: You start our episodes with you accosting us about something
we said in our latest day date with dateline, and
so that's that's what I thought you were doing. And then,
of course Josh, I thought you met Josh Mankowitz because
we had texted him in one of our recent episodes
while we were recording so I could get his live
on the air Mutton Chops, and so I just had
a huge incestuous crossover in my mind. So I'm so
relieved you're talking about Katie with the C and I'm fie,
let's talk about their oral situation all day long.
Speaker 2: Compared to my Katies. I don't want to know anything
about that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, especially not involving Josh manco It's wow.
Speaker 2: No, it's like a fatherly figure to us.
Speaker 1: That's really weird. Conversation has gone in the first two
minutes right downhill.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is the the kind of lingus.
Speaker 1: Time.
Speaker 3: The era we are in our kind of lingus era
of match shart productions. We haven't had too much of
that on Love After lock Up. We did have a
saggy balls conversation because they were deflated.
Speaker 1: Oh right, that's true.
Speaker 2: A lot that didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to think about. Well tlc C stands
for cuddling us. We're just about sick of that. Well,
let's talk about this episode. And there's a lot of
good stuff here. I still don't know how many episodes
do we usually have twenty, so yeah, somewhere, so we're
still we've got a good ways to go here. We
still haven't even gotten like the first wedding yet.
Speaker 3: The real question is how much more hateful can Marissa
and Katie be? Is it possible for them to go
further down in our estimation because I defended Katie a lot.
Speaker 2: At the beginning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of tried to defend Marissa, but I
really tried to defend Katie. She's despicable, she's really horrible,
she's really.
Speaker 2: The worst person.
Speaker 1: She really needs some help. And then this week, I guess,
like the National Citizens for OCD or the National Council
on OCD came out and was like, she does not
represent us, and then she got we don't know her,
and she got mad about that, and then Josh got
mad about that. Yeah, they both were posting about it. Yeah,
they were offended.
Speaker 2: I think the issue is there's nothing wrong with her
saying she has OCD.
Speaker 3: It's when she blames her bad behavior on the OCD
when clearly she is an extremely selfish, narcissistic person.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's right. And so.
Speaker 3: In a way that might be pathological of some sort
of mental illness that I don't want to say, but.
Speaker 2: There are several that come to mind. Yeah, right now,
just would he say them?
Speaker 1: Mom said you're gonna hurt somebody, and she said, like murder.
Speaker 2: That was concerning?
Speaker 1: That was that was that was the first thing that
popped in her head.
Speaker 3: So the fact that the mom said on TV, I
think he will hopefully make you be a less selfish person,
because that's been a character flaw of hers her entire life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's concerning.
Speaker 3: It's awful actually in a religious household, so you know,
they were like beating into her charity, you know, like
the Bible, you know, not being self selfish, and she
is still the complete opposite and so selfish that that
makes you think there's something chemical in her brain, some
sort of synapses or.
Speaker 1: It's not great. And it's not great that even with
your grandparents don't like you because they will forgiven.
Speaker 2: Your parents and your grandparents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough, but let's don't start with them. Let's
start with Yeah. So this is season twelve, Episode twelve,
Seeking of God. So help Me God is the name
of this episode. I don't know why the name of
this episode is so helped Me God. Maybe we'll find
it as we go through. Somebody says it. Maybe Josh.
Speaker 2: Josh is thinking, please help.
Speaker 1: Me God, Please help me God. I can't believe I've
moved to be with this person. So we'll start with
Mallory and Rasheet and it's forty two days to wed.
I like when they tell us this. So yes, she's
gone to look at wedding dresses and she posted today,
so I'm like behind the scenes of it, which is
cute with Mikayla and Katie, and she says, you know,
I'm not like a besize zero sample girl, So I'm
going to this place and I was happy that, you know,
she was happy that they had things in her size
that she could buy off the rat because a lot
of times, you know, you got to buy something, you
have to wait. And so she was happy about that
and she had a lot of choices. And she doesn't
it looks like a five dollar hore on her wedding day.
She will save that for later. I like. She's like, also,
because this family's going to be watching from Turkey and
I definitely don't want them to see me looking like
a five dollar horr. Yeah, she's really cute trying on
the dresses. Even my daughter and her cold black Heart
came through the room and was like, oh, she's so cute,
look at her.
Speaker 2: I know, I love Mallory. She's quickly writing to be
one of my new favorites.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I think so. So they chat about how
things are going. You know, you know now that he
got over the thing with Brandon, and she says, well,
you know how the pre nup conversation went, and you
know that's bad enough, But to be honest, the issue
is I need to have a heart to heart with
him about something that I've procrastinated about. And you're right,
of course, it's the kids, and it's uncomfortable, like so uncomfortable,
like there might not be a wedding, that's how big
the topic is. And their girls are like, what could
it be? What could it be? We have no idea
what this is. Possibly is it you mean? Like murder?
Like murder? And she says, I'm not sure, you know
if I ever want to have kids, and Michayla goes,
are you serious? You know, because he would have kids
right now? Have you talked to him about this at all?
Is he gonna see this coming now? Mikayla is her
best friend in the world, you know that she knows this. Yes,
And she goes, I've never been truly honest with him
about this because I love him so much and I
don't want that to be something that would keep us
from being with each other. But it sounds like to
me that maybe this is a producer driven push, because
she's probably like, yeah, in a couple of years, I'll
probably be ready, but we've got to just see how
the marriage goes first, Right.
Speaker 3: You know they have to have several conflicts and secrets
to get cast on the show, right, you really got
to hold something back until the person comes to America.
These you're not conversations that can film you having over
the phone.
Speaker 1: Everything can't be fine now, yeah, yeah, so I'm talking toad.
Katie goes, well, they need to talk about this immediately,
and Michayla says he wants kids for sure, like he
would have kids tomorrow, so this could be like make
it or break it. I was like, Mikayla, you sure
do know a lot about what rash Sheet wants, but
yet stunned. But it's stunned that she has held this
information back. Mallory goes, well, you know my family situation,
I didn't have a good example of a mother, and
what if I turn into her like going out and
drinking and bringing guys home. I mean, hopefully you wouldn't
do that if you were married. But she says, I
would feel like a horrible person, repeating that cycle. And
they go but that's not you. You're not that kind
of person, and she goes, well, I didn't think my
mother was that kind of person. And it's hard because
I don't know what a healthy relationship with the parent
looks like. I'm afraid I won't break the cycle. And
they're like, this is gonna be rough. It's gonna be
a hard conversation. I'm glad you're trying on this wedding
dress because no man's gonna want to marry you, you
know what I'm saying. I think this is interesting about
Mallory because we are midway through the season and finding
this out.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, she has said her friends are her family,
and there's something about her dad.
Speaker 1: That she told me, right, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently her mom was the five dollar hooker or
whatever that she said.
Speaker 1: And we're talking ed she says, my parents divorced when
I was ten. They went their separate ways and eventually
started new families, and my sister and I felt like
chopped liver. Then my dad kicks me out at eighteen,
and after my car accident, he never showed up to
visit me at the hospital, Like who does that? And
to this day, well since she had this accident last year,
he has not seen me.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And it's his sister also. I don't know, I'd like
to see the sister. Yeah, but she's cute too, I bet.
Speaker 2: She I was just thinking that, I bet they're cute.
Speaker 1: And she said, I'm envious of people with healthy relationships
with their parents, and that's why I'm terrified because I
don't know anything about it. You know, I wanted to
talk to wash Sheet in person about this. I mean,
but it could end our relationship. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: So they're at home and she makes them some tea,
some Turkish tea, and they sit outside, and he's like,
it's not good. She's like, I'm trying. He's like, you're
gonna need to learn to make the tea. She's like,
this is fine, it's good enough. I'm interested in the
teacause the tea's always red. I'm interested in what the
tea tastes like. I love a hot tea. You do
on the porch like a sun gallow, No, don't drinking
hot tea, that's hot, no iced tea on the porch. Well,
you would normally drink iced tea on the porch, or
you might have a cold cocktail, like a glass of
wine with some ice in it, Like a.
Speaker 2: Lady, what about a mint jew lip?
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, but you don't need to get so
so stereotypical. Yeah, yeah, you know of some water in
your stanley is also just fine. Was sitting on the
porch is a thing. So he says, so, how was
the dress shopping? And she says, I can't tell you
how it was. It was a surprise that He's like okay,
and she goes, when you see me, you have to
like ugly cry, and he goes, no, why do that.
She was, You're gonna be like ugly crying when you
see me, and he's like, huh, he did not unders
and he's like, why will I be crying? And so
then she gets serious and says she just kind of
looks forlornly to the side, and he says, why is
your face like a toilet right now?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, like a toilet without a bidet akaa,
the kind of toilet I hate?
Speaker 1: Right Like that was funny. I've never heard that. I
was like, what could he possibly mean, like your face
looks like shit long?
Speaker 2: Or like oh I was thinking, like yeah, like the
face the long.
Speaker 1: I don't it was.
Speaker 2: It was strange, Okay, I'm looking it up because it
could be one of those Turkish phrases that sarper like
we say in Turkey when your face like toilet, your
butt and your face give out the poop. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's all we always start off good with the Sarpers
and then we can never bring it out.
Speaker 2: That's what, because that's what I feel like.
Speaker 1: He does.
Speaker 2: Yes, I said in the second half, why your face.
Speaker 1: Like a toilet? Right now? What are you finding? Mm hmmm,
we're googling on air? Yeah, Mary pain, he can write
google things face look like toilet. No, no, it's not
a price. It's not a price. No, no, we didn't
think it was gonna be. So she says, well, we
have some things to discuss, and I'm afraid that this
topic is so important that you might not want to
marry me. He goes, what, of course, babe, I want
to marry you. She says, but okay, what if I
said I'm not sure if I want kids ever? And
he goes, well, we can you know, I don't know.
I don't know what he's like. Is that what you're saying?
Or you say, what if I said that you know?
And she says, as of right now, I don't want
to have a baby because I don't know if I
could ever be a good mother. And he goes, oh, Mallorie,
why do you think bad all the time? And she goes,
I'm not trying to think bad. I'm being realistic, and
I'm worried that I do not know how to be
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So the talking Eddie says, I have eight siblings and
nineteen nieces and nephews, and I want to be a
dad and see my parents be grandparents to the kids.
And in two years we know everything about each other.
And now I left Turkey and now she tells me this,
and you know, if I would have known, maybe I
would not have left Turkey to marry her. That's why
she didn't tell you. And he says to her, literally,
you make me sad. And I think your mind.
Speaker 3: Will Your toilet seat does not have a bidet attached
to it.
Speaker 1: A sad toilet seat, and I think your mind will
change in two years. And she goes, but what if
my mind doesn't change, would you still want to be
with me? And he goes, now, I don't want to
talk about this, and she goes, but we have to
talk about it, and he says, I really want to
have a baby so much, and this is very bullshit
and he walks off as I'm talking head, she says,
you know, if he decides not to get married. He
has to go back to Turkey, and I can't imagine
my life without him. But he goes off and do
his She shed shop. Yeah, yeah, also to be fine.
It's totally gonna be fine.
Speaker 3: But that she's so worried about, like being a good parent. Yeah,
she's gonna be better than her mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just worries about keeping the cycle going. You know,
she's good.
Speaker 3: That means she's going to break the cycle. She'll work
hard to break the cycle.
Speaker 1: I think, I know she's so cute. She des to
have children. I would be more interested if she said,
when I had that horrible accident, I found out I
could not have kids because they had to take parts
of me out or something. That's kind of what I
was thinking where we were going. But no, she's got
two feet of and testine remote. So yeah, everything everything
else still working. Okay, Thomas and Paula, we had a
little scene with them. Let's hear what they have to say.
Speaker 3: Oh, man, I didn't even look at my notes for
Mallory and rash and I had funny things written down.
When you were saying, tell her mom, her mom, go, well,
pretend that you're telling talking about your your Mallorie talking
about your mom going getting in drunk, going drunk, going
going and getting drunk all the time and going out
late hard.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, my mom used to go out all
the time and get drunk and bring guys home, and
I just don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: Is her mom, Katie, that was it, But not your Katie. No,
Katie with the sea, Yeah, Katie with the sea.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do worry a little bit about the amount
of online hate Katie is getting.
Speaker 3: I worry for her mental health, which is why I
tried to defend her so much.
Speaker 1: This week was pretty bad. Let's talk about Thomas and Paula. Okay,
mm hmm.
Speaker 3: So they are still in the farm with mom and
step stepmom and dad. The stepmom Renie is teaching Paula
how to plant seeds, and Paula brings up that Rennie
was upset about that social media video with the mom,
and she said, I didn't want to pick sides, and
I have empathy for everything you did for Thomas, and
I want to bond with you, but also I kind
of wanted to bond with the mom too.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 3: Rinney said, your family's so great, you don't understand how
bad it was here. I raised Thomas when he was
in the darkest place. So it's a dagger to my
heart that Thomas wants to reconnect with his mom, which
is fair, but also he's an adult and he may
need to feel like he tried with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not up to her, but it's it's rough. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Paula apologizes, and Rinnie says she knows her heart
was going a good place and she appreciates Paula clearing
the air.
Speaker 2: And that's literally all that happened.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's not Meanwhile, Thomas tells dad Tom, there's
a Tom and Tom and a Thomas.
Speaker 2: It's God as Tom and usually it would be the opposite.
I feel like or like this little Tommy, little Tommy.
Yeah Tom tooj. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he says, Paula wants me to repair everything with
the family.
Speaker 2: She wants to.
Speaker 3: She really thinks her crystals can bring everybody together.
Speaker 2: Miniatures will bring everybody together.
Speaker 3: And Tom says, you know, just so you know, in
ten years, you won't remember who's who's at your wedding.
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's true.
Speaker 3: For most guests, but I don't feel like that's true
for your parents. I don't think I remember if your
parents were at your wedding.
Speaker 1: I think if you have like five hundred people at
your wedding, you may not remember. But I think if
you only have like twenty five thirty people and four
of them were your parents, you might remember that. Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Paul Thomas says, I don't know why you
even or Tom says, I don't know why you even
wanted to invite your mom, and Thomas tells, you know
the dad, I know how hard it was for you,
and I knew that I could always count on you,
and I really appreciate everything you did for me, and
I want you to know that. And that's all Dad
needed to hear that he has what he did for Tom.
Thomas wasn't being forgotten right because he was pursuing things
with the mom, and the dad says he appreciates. Toma
is saying that they pack up to leave and they
feel like they accomplish everything they wanted to on the trip,
and Tom says, Paula, you're part of the family now,
and she I think she understands the family better now,
and Thomas says, okay, but Paula, you're in their talking head,
you're still not going to try to fix it, right,
you understand that you can't fix it. And Paula says, well,
I still want to take a picture of everyone at
the wedding together, all of the parents, And Thomas says,
so you haven't learned anything, and she says, it's just
a picture, and he says, that's literally what started the
whole thing. He took a picture with my mom, So
you just want to repeat that And she's like, whatever,
it's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: It's interesting when I talk to her, she's said that, uh,
the parents lived in a trailer on this farm, but
to me, it looks like they live in a house.
And then the trailer was like the guest space.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe their house is also a trailer, but the
wheels were covered by you know, people cover the wheels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be. But also they said on this episode,
I'm so glad you got to see how Thomas grew up.
I was like, did he grow up grow up on
this farm like a new Yeah me too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Confusing.
Speaker 3: Something's not making sense. Are they getting married at the
Queen Mary though, that's the question.
Speaker 1: I believe that is where the wedding is planned.
Speaker 2: Yes, did they book it? Okay?
Speaker 1: Yes, I believe so because I told her about Katie
playing a ghost on the Queen Mary you did, yes,
And she's like, I want to get She goes, I
want to get in touch with her and find out
about that because I want to do it.
Speaker 2: She would be good at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hilarious. So she was ghost of the Week or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she got a certificate.
Speaker 1: She should hang that behind herself in a podcast studio. Okay,
Asha and Maxwell hmm okay, well Asha. We start off
the episode with her calling her prophetess Patricia PPP and
she says, hey, listen, I got to call you right quick,
and she goes, it's one forty five in the morning.
She goes, anyway, we got to do a prayer. She
doesn't even care that it's my God.
Speaker 2: God doesn't punch a clock and neither just Asia.
Speaker 1: No, She's like, anyway, my sister is Cola and Glenn,
so it's uh, Jacola and Glenna.
Speaker 2: And then because I thought it was just like Cola, like.
Speaker 1: It's j O C C O L A H Jacola,
and I would like to know where that originated from. Glenna,
we got probably the dazz name is Glenn.
Speaker 3: Were you named after we Cola or were you named
after like an off brand Cola like R. C.
Speaker 1: Cola with an age or Cola Scola. I mean, what
is that? Cole A Scola, Cola Scola, the actor that
wrote Oh Mary, thank you? Okay, yeah, just the light
went completely dim in your eyes when I said that.
Speaker 2: No, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, that was a That was a that was
an inside Broadway joke.
Speaker 2: And I haven't seen it. I would like to see
it in New York. I want to see it. Maybe
I should go see it.
Speaker 1: You should go see it. It changed.
Speaker 2: I remember how you raved about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, anyway, that was sorry, guys. So she Cola.
She says, Cola, Glenn and Rod will be there today,
and she goes, let's do a prayer, and then she's
like hello, hello. She just in that how the devil works,
just trying to cut me off from my prayer. The
devil will do it so funny. Now the screen, the.
Speaker 3: God is anything good and the devil is any minor inconvenience,
like you know, if her like Wi Fi is glitchy,
if they get her drink wrong at Starbucks.
Speaker 2: Right the devil.
Speaker 1: The devil is working at the Starbucks. So four days
to wed, the screen tells us she calls Rod Rod's
at the She says, are you at the hotel? And
he says, yeah, we don't have the directions to the house.
She says, I'll send them to you. So she says,
are you at the hotel and he says yes. But
then they all show up with giant rolling bags. How
many people can stay in this house because they just
added four people to this house.
Speaker 2: Well, this was the large airbnb that they rented, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: But if they weren't planning for this to happen, why
all of a sudden do they have four extra bedrooms?
Speaker 3: They were planning it, Okay, So I called phony baloney
on all of this.
Speaker 2: We didn't know there was a wedding.
Speaker 1: I completely agree that there's not any way everybody had
their bags packed within two days and went to Africa
with their pastor. I don't even know if these days
you have to get certain shots before you go right
to Africa and stuff. So come on now, baloney, As
Katie would say, yes, amen. So they're talking to her.
She says, today, my older sister, Jacola, my middle sister Glenna,
my mom's friend Kathy are coming along with stepbrother Rod
to Nigeria. And I just told them, come on, we're
gonna have a vacation in Africa. We had things planned.
Just come on over, Come on.
Speaker 3: I don't even do that for like going to the
west side in La like when I lived in the Valley.
Speaker 2: That would take a week of planning at least. Yeah, yeah,
just hop on over to Africa.
Speaker 1: There's just no way. There's no way, so she says,
My sisters are usually supportive of everything I do, but
they have no idea we're getting married. I hope Rod
didn't tell them anything. So ten hours of a flight.
Speaker 2: What else are they talking about on the flight?
Speaker 1: Which means you like at least fourteen hours of traveling,
and you're saying, nowhere along the way, did either any
of these three people go? I wonder why she wants
us to come to Africa.
Speaker 2: And Rod doesn't seem like the kind that can keep
his secret. Let's be real. Oh no, he's a gossip queen.
Speaker 3: Yes yes, so also, yes, you do need a yellow
fever vaccination to go to Nigeria.
Speaker 1: And how far ahead in advance can you get that.
Can you get it? Can you just call up your
primary care and be like, you got yellow fever in stock?
I thought to get that, right, they have that at CBS,
next to the COVID and the flu yellow fever. I
don't think so, right, Come on t LC. So she says,
I hope Rod didn't tell them anything, but there's no
more time to keep the secrets now or never. So
all the sisters and Rod arrive at the Airbnb and
Aunt Kathy or whoever she is, and Aunt Kathy was like,
I got to get in on this, like I want
to be on TV. This is my moment. So in
the talking head Jacola and Glenna, the sisters and Kathy say,
Asha always does this. She just comes up with the
last minute vacation and we follow her to another continent
where you need a yellow fever vaccine.
Speaker 2: Okay, they have malaria.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she says, you know Asia, she's just bossy
and demanding. And my note here is so now they
just all of a sudden have space in this house
for four more grown ups. Okay. So Rod sits down
to talk to Asia. Everybody's going to get settled, and
he says, you're going to need to tell everybody what's
going on, and not just days before the wedding, it's
four days before the wedding. And he says, there's something
going on. You're just not telling me everything. And she goes,
you think I'm pregnant? Now that is offensive to God
and to me. And she says to roj because you're
just stuck. You're not being open minded. You think it
can only be one thing and it's not. And he goes,
do they practice voodoo here in Nigeria? They put did
they put something in your drink or your food? And
she goes and she says, they practice voodoo in America.
Speaker 3: Shut up, Rod, Jesus. He thinks he's living in the
movie Get out? What do you think is happening here?
Speaker 1: And talking to her, Rod goes, I worry, you know,
you get those callers on the phone. I'm worried. Just
a scam. No callers ever get you to come fly
to another country and marry somebody when you need a.
Speaker 3: Vaccine Nigerian prince email scam that has been a joke forever.
Speaker 2: Is about please come and me.
Speaker 1: And he kept saying robocalls. I was like, Rob, Rod, Rod,
whatever your nam is okay. So Asha says, well, you
can just have a conversation with Maxwell yourself, and he says, oh,
I will. So now we see Maxwell and his parents
and his sister Blaze sitting by this beautiful seaside restaurant
and it's by the ocean. You can see people are
like standing out, like looking to see what they're filming.
Because you could see there's people that are like, you know,
making sure people don't cross the line into the recording.
I love stuff like that. If somebody keeps going by
on a horse, I was like, that person's trying to
get their moment and do that.
Speaker 3: On Hollywood Boulevard block people from walking into a shot.
So I had to like herd people into the little
tourist shops, yeah, or on Holly so they wouldn't walk
on the street because we needed the street to be
completely empty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so mad.
Speaker 1: Lots of yelling and what movie was this?
Speaker 2: This was for the Oscars.
Speaker 3: It was for an opening shot that they were going
to use the Oscars of like a drone shot of
Boulevard completely empty.
Speaker 2: For some reason.
Speaker 3: And so but if you shoot during the day at
Hollywood Boulevard, there's thousands of people, So.
Speaker 1: So how did you get this? So you block the
street off on both ends.
Speaker 3: And then you say, can you just come inside and
stay inside, stay in this hot, hot no air conditioning,
tourist place that sells shirts that say I love La
Yes for for just it's five more minutes. We just
needed the shot five more minutes and did you give
more minutes?
Speaker 1: Maybe everybody didn't get anything shirt, they were just in
the wrong place at the wrong time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But at the other point, some were like, oh,
we're part of a thing, like yeah, yes, and.
Speaker 1: You were like, yes, you are, You're important.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're basically the star of the oscars.
Speaker 1: So Asha introduces everyone to everyone, and she stands up
and says, well, the reason we have brought everyone together
is to introduce all of you to my fiance Maxwell,
and in a few days we'll be getting married. Speech over,
she sits down and they're all like what and Rod goes, huh,
I see you charmed her really really good, and he's like,
so Blaze says to the sisters, how do you feel,
because she's like, oh, yes, sisters are here. Sisters sister
see each other, and they go, well, we are shocked.
We are shocked, and she goes, well, the man at
the embassy told Maxwell that the best bet is to
get married and reapply for the spousal visa, take that
visa back to the United States with the marriage certificate
and reapply. And they said, so this will be faster,
and she goes, no, it could be another year, it
could be another two years. We don't know. But it
takes time. But this is the best bet. And I
think this will work because you know, now we're really
doing it. So talking to how the sisters go, we
are very surprised she did not tell us this. We
had no idea why we were getting yellow fever shots
three months ago, and it is unfound was.
Speaker 3: Right what I googled, because otherwise we're just spreading misinformation.
Speaker 1: Oh, I said something so absolutely wrong on the on
the Love After lock Up podcast yesterday, I said that
Cecily was not a part of Italy, that Sicily was
a separate country, and that's not true. Is false, that's false.
So yeah, I don't need twenty six more people to
tell me, because I've realized that I said it as
if it was true. It realized now I shouldn't have
left the internet. Tell me that because I read that somewhere,
so no, that's just just a quick Google would have
found out that I was wrong. So yeah, we left
it in.
Speaker 3: So they should feel very prideful of their location as yes,
and I think they think of themselves as slightly different
than regular Italians.
Speaker 1: I think of it as Texas. The people in Texas
think that they're in a different country, and that's I mean,
they can have it, no shade takeisha. So the sisters say, well,
we are just so surprised she did not tell us,
and it's unfair because we should have known this was coming,
so we could have been more prepared. Mm hmm, that's good.
You read those lines and you're so tired. You know,
they're so tired. They're really reading those lines.
Speaker 3: If this was real, I feel like she would have
gotten them drunk, because I feel like these ladies like
need a cocktail or something.
Speaker 1: And like right before they were arrived, remember it was
one forty five am where they're from, so it's like
probably four in the morning where they're from now, so
they are get some sleep first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, theos the clock and yeah, God doesn't punch your.
Speaker 1: Clock, no, right, So the sister said, as what will
you do if you're denied again? And she goes, I
do not think it will happen again, because this time
God really is on my side. And the first time.
Speaker 3: Said that before, but this time there was static on
the line and I misinterpreted and he cut out right
as he said I ordained this. It was like, I
don't ordain this, but that don't was cut out because
of the static, and I got confused.
Speaker 2: But this time it's for.
Speaker 1: Real, God said, this time it's ordained and we this time,
we will have a stronger evidence and the marriage certificate
and they will know for a fact it's legitimate because
we will not include those losers who send us our
best friends okay, whose.
Speaker 2: Faces blurred the lady but not the man, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I can't remember that.
Speaker 2: I think the lady was for sure the lady. I
think the man we saw his face. I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: She's like Asha got me going over to Nigeria, getting
scammed by Jerian scammera so and talking tot as she goes.
I could tell my sisters were speechless. And I understand
because his whole family was sitting right there. They had
to play along to get along and if they had
an opinion, they're just gonna internalize their feelings to tell
me later, like, oh, they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Tell you later.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the ant or the sister or somebody says,
so when are you gonna have babies? Because they're very
concerned about her age everybody else.
Speaker 3: Every day we wait to impregnate you is a day
that you are more feeble and into menopause.
Speaker 1: Just one less egg every day. Yeah, And they say
when will you have babies? And Maxwell says, we will
see by the grace of God? And Clement says, who
Clement is a man? A few words except for when
you chimed in last week about her being in menopause.
He said, I say, I just need two boys and
two girls. And they all look at him like, do
you see how old she is? Like are you crazy?
Is she gonna have quads? And she says, let me
tell you something right now, they're gonna be two pregnancies
and whatever comes, that's it. That's what you're taking.
Speaker 2: He's like slipping some money to the doctor.
Speaker 3: I think she should just because she could artificially inseminate
multiple eggs. And he's gonna like slip money to the
doctor just put like twenty in there.
Speaker 1: And to see what happens. Yes, yeah, happens.
Speaker 2: So you already freezed her eggs. Actually, she has a
lot of money.
Speaker 1: I know, maybe she has though maybe she's maybe she.
Speaker 2: Has freezed her eggs. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they'd like that though, because that
doesn't feel as God ordained. It feels more science ordained.
Speaker 1: I don't think you say freezed your eggs. I think
you say froze.
Speaker 2: Froze.
Speaker 1: Apologies, okay, just making sure nobody come at us. I
know this least a part of Italy. Okay. So Rod's like,
you're already talking about babies and talking to head. Rod goes,
it is too early to think about babies. They're not
even going to be living in the same house, the
same country, and then he says, I don't even know
if he can afford babies.
Speaker 2: So now he's so.
Speaker 3: Rod, I'm gonna he can't be I don't know if
he's right, he's enophobic.
Speaker 2: Let's say that.
Speaker 1: He has no idea what these people's wealth status is.
They could be like supremely wealthy, Like he has no idea.
Speaker 2: He just gets there they're poor scammers immediately because they're
right Nigeria. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Rod says, all right, Maxwell, what kind of business
will you pursue in the United States? And Maxwell says,
right now, I'm in the car business. It's like buying
and reselling. And Asia says he is in a wholesale
auto broker, but he is considering doing electrical work and
Maxwell says, yes, my dad, Clement is an electrical contractor. Oh,
which does mean he has a profession that makes money.
And Rod says, don't speak for your man, please, Uh, Maxwell,
do you understand what American women are looking for in
a husband. Well, now he's against Americans too, Rod, He's
got a lot of negative opinions. He says. The husbands
in America work very very hard. She works very very hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, women hard assume he won't work very very hard.
Speaker 1: Why do we assume that the women are just now,
now that she's got a husband, she's just gonna like he's.
Speaker 2: Gonna stop working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he needs to work very hard, but he can't
work hard inherently because he's Nigerian, so he's unable to
work hard.
Speaker 1: She has a doctorate. I highly doubt she's just going
to stop working. And Maxwell goes well, I don't think
Americans work harder than Nigerians. And Rod goes, oh, really, well,
how much you got in your bank account? And Maxwell
just looks around and goes, well, you're not going to
compare me to you because you have all the machines there,
so you make everything easier to work. But here in Nigeria,
I use my hands to work under harsh situations. So
I don't think you work harder than Nigerians. You're just blessed.
Mm hmm. And I think we've heard this before. We've
heard this before on some show where they said, like,
you think that you work hard, but you have a
lot of machines that do things for you, which you know,
I wouldn't think of being that I live here, But
that's definitely true. So Maxwell says, Okay, look, it's normal
to ask somebody what you do for a living, but
to ask how much of money I have in my
bank account is a dumb question, a very dumb question.
And you don't ask a man such questions. Yeah, I
don't think you just don't ask anybody that question. It's
pretty rude.
Speaker 2: No, it's very rude. Also, he doesn't translate what he
writes in Nigeria. You don't know what that means in
American money, right right?
Speaker 1: So Rod says, I am a very hard worker. And
one thing I know about Nigerians. We get a lot
of robo calls and scams and they all come from Africa.
Let me tell you something. The robo calls that I
get is they're all about my loan.
Speaker 2: The loan.
Speaker 1: My loan has been processed there. I'm so lucky. They
just need a few more pieces of information about my loan.
And nowhere on these robot calls that I get twenty
a day about my loan, does it say it comes
from Africa.
Speaker 3: All of mine are from American politicians. So I don't
know what he's talking about. And also he just told
you he has a job. It is with cars.
Speaker 2: He is not.
Speaker 3: You know who was sitting in a call center making
robo calls submit in India? Yeah he was and us
think a fake photo that was clearly a catfish. So
let's direct our xenophobia towards India.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, let's don't do that. And I know, let's
don't do that. So you know, Rod says, the robo
calls come from Africa, and Balaze says, you're talking about scams,
but that is not my family. It is fine to
be skeptical and have fears, but my family is far
from the scam. And Rod says, well, I flew ten
hours on a plane, which I've never done before, to
be sure she's in good, good hands, and Blaize says, okay, well,
I don't want someone around him who's going to be
bossy and too proud and cannot submit. But you're free
to make your observations. So Blaize is like, you're gonna
take down my brother. I'm going to take down your sister, cousin, godsister.
And she's like, why my catching stray? It's like, I
just what I know.
Speaker 3: Families are against the wedding for different reasons. What's funny
is Asia's mom is the only one on board, but
she doesn't seem to matter because they think she is
the doddy old lady and the daughters don't take her seriously.
And Rod doesn't take your serious word. You fooled mom
into being bored with this. She loves Maxwell because he's
so handsome, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: She hasn't said I think she just drunk again. She
hadn't They give her a pill. So Maxwell says to Rod,
my name is Maxwell and the meaning of my name
is greatness, so you're gonna like me. I like that.
I liked it. I was like, good, give it back
to him.
Speaker 3: He should have learned what Rod meant. And your name
is Roderick, which you mean stupid head.
Speaker 1: And they all kind of laugh and Maxwell saying that,
And Maxwell says, you seem to have a lot of problems,
but I'm looking forward to spending time with you and
getting to know you. And Rod's like.
Speaker 2: Nice I would.
Speaker 3: He didn't punch him in the face, he didn't storm off.
He took it very well.
Speaker 1: He just sort of laughed. Yeah. He didn't say why
are you coming at me so hard? And you don't
know my finances and you're disrespecting my parents by saying
we're scammers, you know. But he was just nice about it.
So talking to Rod, says, he says all the right things,
but he'll slip up if he's not authentic. Asha has
been very smart in all her decisions in business and life,
but this is the worst decision I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: So if she's been smart in all decisions, why do
you assume this is such a dumb decision. I mean,
I think it is a dumb decision, But why does
he think it's a dumb decisions?
Speaker 1: Have we seen her? Do we know that she's had
like six boyfriends that have fooled her before?
Speaker 2: Right now? I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I think she's very picky, and that's why she hasn't
been married so far.
Speaker 1: I think. So, Okay, let's move on to Katie and Josh.
Speaker 2: Oh God, these assholes.
Speaker 1: Okay, so not everybody here is an asshole?
Speaker 3: No, well, there's it's more than it was last week
because I've turned on somebody.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 3: So Katie and Josh, they are all kissy and their
hero shot now, which is like the first time she's
made out with him and not Ryan in this hot Man.
Speaker 1: It is the second hero shot where she rubs her
hand ale on his face. Weird, weird, weird.
Speaker 2: Let me stick my tongue in your mouth.
Speaker 3: So they go to a cake tasting for the wedding
because I guess they're having the wedding there.
Speaker 1: I guess that's why they're there. And we didn't know.
We thought they were there for Easter.
Speaker 3: But okay, so she says, fifty people will be at
the wedding, and she's happy her parents are coming and
can give me some insight. I'm going in with an
open mind. Who says that about a cake tasting, it's.
Speaker 1: A cake tasting. And the fact that when the guy
said how many people are going to be she goes fifty.
Speaker 2: And Josh is like, okay, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: I know zero people. I didn't know that fifty people
still liked you.
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, okay, how many of them have you
made out with? Forty nine?
Speaker 1: Well, let's don't count your parents, so forty eight I didn't.
Speaker 3: I counted the parents, at least one of the parents
on purpose, because I don't know it.
Speaker 2: She does when she's super drunk at home. She might
have made out with her grandfather. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like her either.
Speaker 2: It's take out your dentures.
Speaker 1: It's awful. No, he dies not have denterrous girl.
Speaker 2: No, he looked pretty good, so I don't remember what
he looks like. So he looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: I'm shaking my head. The teeth weren't great, but okay.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 3: But he's also She's like, I'm going in with an
open mind, which is a very weird thing to say
about a cake tasting. And the guy asks if they
have their wedding colors, and Josh goes, I like this
the color of my shirt, which is like a maroon.
And he goes, no, not for the wedding. And he goes, no,
I guess not. That's a dumb response. No, not this color.
Speaker 1: And you know with this color, you know what she
didn't do before she went to the cake tasting, take
a shower, wash her hair. No, she looks like she
stuck her head and a vat of grease and went
to the cake tasting.
Speaker 2: You know who has started showering a lot more Mallory.
Speaker 1: Oh good, good, that's good.
Speaker 2: Okay, she transferred the hair grease to Katie. So Katie
tells us I'm not gonna be a bridezilla, but maybe
just a zilla, you know, like I am in my
normal life.
Speaker 1: I liked that. I liked that she was she owned it. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they haven't planned anything for the wedding, and Josh says, well,
you're in control of everything. But when you say you're
in control, it's chaos. And I really don't want stress
and chaos on the wedding day. That terrifies me. And
she says, when I tell you I've got this, I
do like the apartment that I told you I got
and we instead stayed in a hotel, and like my
mattress that is stained.
Speaker 2: I've got this.
Speaker 1: She doesn't. She doesn't.
Speaker 2: She doesn't have anything plan.
Speaker 3: So Josh says, Katie had said maybe we could have
the wedding at your house and the parents, and the
parents go no, that, no, we cannot fit fifty people.
We don't even like you, Katie, So you're not gonna
trash our house and let people use our bathroom.
Speaker 2: No, it's not happening.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if the wedding is like in
thirty days and they're just like, can we have it
at your house?
Speaker 3: Uh no no, And so the parents say we have
We are not surprised that she has nothing planned.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And it's six weeks away. So will they be able
to find a venue in six weeks?
Speaker 1: What? No? No, that she was counting her marriage to
be like, sure, you can have it at our house.
We saw that backyard. That backyard can't fit fifty people.
It's tiny.
Speaker 2: What is happening where is the Is it gonna be
at the like community center, even those places are booked. Yeah,
you get have to get married on like a tubesday morning.
Well that's what they're gonna have to do, is get
married on a Tuesday morning so that they can find
a place or at three in the morning. I don't
give me do it in you're off hours.
Speaker 1: She'll be drunk by trying to make out with the priests,
so now I know.
Speaker 3: So then it gets so much worse. And this scene
I actually found quite infuriating. I was so stressed so
at the cake tasting. Still, Katie gets a notification on
her smart watch, which is so funny that she has
a smart watch, because I feel like those are supposed
to help people manage their lives better.
Speaker 1: And I noticed that when she was looking at her watch,
She's like, you're not gonna like this. I was like,
what time? It is?
Speaker 3: Like, you have access to all the technology to help
you get your act together and you still can't do it.
I'm sure there's an app on there that helps you,
like count how many drinks you've had, so you don't
make that. So she says, the delivery company is giving
me the window of when your possessions from the UK
a arriving, and he says, what, why are they contacting you?
And she says, well, they've been contact I told you
and he says, no, you didn't, and the parents get
so tense.
Speaker 2: They're just like, this is so bad.
Speaker 1: Kimberly didn't make you so stressed to think like that
was all his stuff.
Speaker 3: I was so when we get more of the story,
I was just more and more infuriated.
Speaker 2: And the parents are just sitting there, just like not.
Speaker 3: Eating the cake, just like Katie fucked up something else,
and she gave a total bitch to Josh. So she
explains that his stuff has been stuck at customs since
he got to America and now his possessions are finally
arriving in Portland, but they are not in Portland now
they are in California. And she says, I feel like
he's being a little dramatic.
Speaker 2: What fuck fuck you, Katie.
Speaker 3: I have you with every fiber of my being right now.
There's something so selfish about her.
Speaker 1: It's really bad. This is really bad because he's you
could you could see the non acting sheer panic, like
we're not just doing this scene that producers told us
to do. You could see the real like panic in
him that was there.
Speaker 3: This is everything I own and we are not there.
They're going to drop it off and no one is
going to be in the hallway of our apartment building
for anyone to take what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: We've got to call.
Speaker 3: He's gonna go back, get sent back to England because
no one's there to sign for its nightmare.
Speaker 2: This is a nightmare.
Speaker 3: And instead of problem solving, she's like, I think he's
being a little dramatic. I oh, there's so many diagnoses
I think I can think about the top of my head.
Speaker 2: But basically, just bitch. She just she's being a bitch.
Speaker 3: So he says he She goes, so he's being dramatic,
And Josh says, I've been trying to get these things
for weeks and you haven't told me anything, and they've
been contacting you, and this is this level of importance
to me up here, and you're treating it all the
way down here. Yeah, And she says, well, I was
on my run when they called, and I texted you
about it and you never asked, so I didn't bring
it up.
Speaker 1: She probably sent him a text that said, hey, remind
me to tell you something later.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, and he didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he apologizes to the parents. He's like, I'm sorry
that we're having this discussion in front of you at
this cake tasting. And they say, no, it's important. It's
all of your belongings and our daughters being a huge
see you next Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Right now. We're sorry for our daughter, is what they
should have said.
Speaker 3: So Josh says, if it was all of her storage
unit possessions, like that weird bin that had like loose
bean in it and things like that a plate, yeah,
she would be concerned too. And she says, well, there's
nothing you can do but just hope it gets there
when we're there.
Speaker 1: No, there's something you can do, which is schedule it
for when you're home, or get a friend to go.
Speaker 3: Get a friend to go and wait and contact the
company and make sure it's okay for someone else to
sign give him your authorization, like you need to start
making calls right now. And he said, I would just
appreciate you taking this more seriously. These are all of
the possessions that I have in this world, right and
so they he's upset, and I would be upset to
and so they go back to her. On another day,
they're at the parents' house. They look at the chickens
in the backyard. She's trying to catch one and it's
running away from her, and he says, this looks like
you on a night out trying to catch an innocent
guy to make up with it and make out with him.
We'll call the chicken Ryan, And I was like, so
now we're joking about her trying to essentially s a
people who don't want it.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's he's just laughing, like he's made the
joke of the century, and like, this is a girl
you're supposed to be marrying, and you're making jokes about
how she's trying to make.
Speaker 3: Out with force herself for herself on there pushing her away.
So he says, it's good that you know, we're happy
and having fun after our fight yesterday and we had
a great night shagging. So happy Easter. So they just
they just go swing from fights to makeup.
Speaker 1: Sex, Like is this stuff that's what I need to know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, We're not even going to get a follow up.
I bet on the stuff.
Speaker 3: So the dad leads them in an Easter egg hunt
and that was fun.
Speaker 2: They're both actually very into it. They're both being really competitive,
and he's like, this is intense and they can't find
the eggs anywhere, and like there's like a golden egg
and they're like take no prisoners, and they're like both
going for it. It was cute.
Speaker 3: But then they're in their talking head and he says,
I would like to tone down the competition when we do
this with our children, and she says no, and he says, okay,
so you can organize the egg hunt and I'll organize
the therapy that they'll need because.
Speaker 2: Of the egg hunt.
Speaker 3: And so Josh finds the golden egg, which has two
dollars in it. Yes, Katie takes one of them and haha,
it's so fun. So the grandparents come over for an
Easter meal, the grandparents, who also hate Katie and Edward.
The grandpa says, Katie is very opinionated and.
Speaker 2: Pushy, but she's a good person, you know. I just
good luck Josh. It's good luck, Josh. You grandpa says.
Speaker 1: Grandpa's had a couple of mid afternoon Easter wines and
he's telling it all loose lips.
Speaker 2: Everyone in this family hates her.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: So at the meal, Katie starts drinking. She's like secretly
pouring more wine for herself and Josh.
Speaker 1: Josh gets up to get the sausage rolls and she's likelgooloo.
Speaker 2: Well he's not looking.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the mom asked if Josh celebrated Easter and he
says kind of. When I was a kid, it was
more about chocolate. I'm not very religious, and he says,
what does the religion mean to you? And mom says, well,
you're gonna have to have your children baptized and raised
in the church. And I think she says to us,
I think religion gives people good morals, Like it's done
with my daughter Katie.
Speaker 1: Clearly my daughter has turned her face away from the church.
Speaker 3: Because if ever there was a face for religion, Katie
is not. That she's like on a billboard warning people
against forcing religion on children.
Speaker 1: I wonder though, if the mom the reason she seems
so like calm and okay with the whole not okay,
but like not as bothered by Katie as any regular
person in her presence would be, is because she's so religious.
She has really just prayed a lot to come to
peace with it because she has a piece about her yeah,
where she's obviously very upset about her daughter, but she's
yet also thrilled that she doesn't live with her.
Speaker 2: That's where so I think there are other siblings.
Speaker 1: I think there are two, yeah.
Speaker 3: And I think they are good. And I think the
mom a long time ago has written off Katie as
like a wild cousin in the family that comes around
occasionally for the holidays, and they're fun for a while,
but you don't let yourself get stressed over what's happening
in their life because you stare at times a year.
It's a lot of therapy and praying, and she's like,
I'm focused on my good children, and I Katie, I'm
I have to bail her out of jail one day,
but like, as long as she's not in jail. It's
because of murder, but it's fine as long as she's
not in jail, And I don't let she's like emotionally
detached herself. It's like you have a boss that is
kind of mercurial with their emotions, and you found that
like sometimes they're really excited about things, but then sometimes
they're really mad about things.
Speaker 2: And you found it's.
Speaker 3: Healthier for your mental health to just be like neutral,
so you don't get excited when they get excited, you
don't get sad when they get sad, and you just
detach and that's better for you. And I feel like
the mom has done that and have put all of
her focus on her other kids, and if Katie comes
around once in a while, that's great.
Speaker 1: I think that's right because I think that the way
her mother I've really been thinking about this a lot,
the way that her.
Speaker 3: Fascinating you guys, we've never had like a case study
like Katie.
Speaker 1: I think her mother's saying when she said, yeah, I
was bad on my birthday. I was bad. I kissed
everyone like it's funny or it's like I was I was,
I was bad. I accidentally like took too many pennies
at the CBS. It said, just take one, like she
kind of the way she's like, I was bad on
my birthday, and the mom just says that makes me sad.
It leads me to believe she's had a lot of
therapy coaching on how to approach Katie, how to respond
when Katie does things, and for her to say one
day you're going to hurt somebody. I feel like the
mom has had a I'd love to know how much
therapy her mothers have because dad is sort of like,
I don't know. She does therapy and then tells me
and I just say, okay, that's how we deal with Katie.
When does she leaves me?
Speaker 3: It might be church therapy like pailing with the reactious leader.
And they have tried to pray the drunk away with Katie,
which is like a different kind of pray the gay away,
to pray the take out away, but they have been unsuccessful.
So they are teaching her to like focus on her
own emotions and the good children. But what's interesting about
that scene is why did Katie confess that she was
bad on her birthday? Does she have like a confessional
relationship with her mom, like she confesses her sins to her?
Why does she tell her mom all of this stuff
that she does when she knows it will be against
what her mom believes? Is she trying to get attention
from her parents by doing this sort of behavior, right,
It's very strange. It is it could justice easily not
have said anything because she doesn't live there.
Speaker 1: How her mom know, right, yeah, I'm with you. Okay,
continue on. I'm sorry I could. I'm nastly fascinated by
the situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they're talking about church, and you know, the mom
says religion gives people good morals, unlike Katie, and the
dad to ask if Josh would ever convert, and Josh says, oh,
God goodness, that's a big question. Oh my cheerio, that's
a good question. That's a big question. No, I don't
know enough about your religion. And Katie says, well, what
if I took you to church, which again was interesting
because she's not lying to the parents and saying, we
go to church all the time, right, you know, Yeah,
so we go in Portland. We totally have a regular
church are The pastor's name is George Glass.
Speaker 2: We totally go all the time.
Speaker 1: I I think they've given up with her trying to
go to church.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: But I think their whole thing is if you get married,
if you have children, God forbid, then we need those
children to go.
Speaker 2: To church, right, because it's too late for you.
Speaker 3: But the kids are innocent and we could still mold
them into who we want them to be.
Speaker 1: They will still be our grandchildren. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Katie's like, what if I took you to church?
And he says, I'd be open to it, you know,
i' mcna. So that's sort of like you don't you
don't know, you know, kind of you're open. And Katie says,
Mom asked her mom, if Josh doesn't believe in God,
will he.
Speaker 2: Go to hell and I'll go to heaven?
Speaker 3: And Mom says, well, I don't know what's in his
soul and what God is looking for, which is kind
of bs because isn't all of her studies isn't that
tell you what God is looking for to go to heaven?
Speaker 1: It was interesting the way she said to her mom,
mom my book, It's like, Mom, well Josh go to heaven. Yeah,
looks like she was like a four year old at
like Sunday School, Like, you know, it was strange.
Speaker 3: Everything is strange, strange, everything is strange. Also, you can
see the thoughts start going and now Katie is like O.
Speaker 1: C D.
Speaker 2: Spiraling Yes, right, the after life. She's now spiling spiraling
about that. So Katie's like, well, if he doesn't go
to heaven, how can I be happy if he's in heaven?
And or if he's in Hell and I'm in Heaven.
If I was Josh, I would have gotten ever walked away.
Speaker 3: I would be like, we're having an Easter dinner conversation
and everyone's just assuming that I'm going.
Speaker 2: To Hell, like I'm leaving.
Speaker 1: Well, She's like, Mommy, tell me where do the bad
people go?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like Darling, your bestrothed is going to Hell? Oh no, mommy, Yeah,
it's crazy.
Speaker 3: So mom says, I don't know Katie because she's instead
of like going along with the OCD, you know, she
she just needs an answer. She could have just lied
to her, but instead she's like, I don't know Katie,
and she's kind of annoyed. I feel like like they're
incessant questions. I'm sure Katie asked a lot of questions
because of her mind's going, and she's like.
Speaker 2: What about this?
Speaker 1: Mom?
Speaker 2: What about this? Do ducks go to heaven? What about geese?
Speaker 1: Do geese go to heaven?
Speaker 2: What about that geese that bit me? Did he go
to heaven? What about this? Do the ants go to heaven?
Katie fucking I don't know? Ask God? Like everyone hates her.
Speaker 1: And they're like, maybe she should have some more wine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she had her drunks, so she'll pass out. Stop
talking to us, so Mom says in their in their
talking head, Katie tells Josh, you know our kids need
to be baptized, and he says, well, this is starting
to feel like an ultimatum, like it's again your way
or it's nothing. And she says, I feel like I've
told you I'm Lutheran, so it shouldn't blind blindside you.
And he says, and I've told you that I'm agnostic,
so that shouldn't blindside you. You can't have it both ways,
like I've been very clear about my religion and or
lack of religion. And Mom tells them to get into heaven,
you need to accept Jesus Christ as your savior. And
I was like, okay, you lost me, Mom. You had
you had me with I hate my daughter, but you
lost me with telling me that I'm going to hell.
Speaker 1: She got real, reallys real quick.
Speaker 2: Real religious, real quick.
Speaker 3: And again I ask like, what if Josh was Jewish
or something else and not agnostic.
Speaker 2: Would she also say that she would feel like.
Speaker 1: Hell?
Speaker 3: Or is she one of the Christians that's like, oh,
she's one of the chosen people.
Speaker 1: We don't mess. I don't know. I kind of feel
like she's like, you're a Lutheran or you're nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly, that's what feels like. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And Katie says, well, I don't know, is it like
so black or white? And the mom says, I think it.
Speaker 2: Is, which is weird because five seconds ago she said,
I don't know what's in his heart. I don't know
what God is looking for.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem very Christian to be like it's
black and white, You're going to.
Speaker 2: Hell, You're going to hell. It's no, no one judges
like a good Christian.
Speaker 1: That's right, real, that's right. Wow. And also she's sick
of Katie. She's been there one day. She doesn't want
to eat sausage rolls. She looked at her glass. It
was empty. Two minutes ago it was full. Katie drank
her wine. Yeah, she's gonna have to drive grandma and
grandma back to the nursing home. She's in a mood.
She's in a mood. She's had it, she's had it.
Speaker 2: Had it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not a very patient Christian lady. Okaye, she's
trying to Maybe she's realized because of the packages that
got lost in customs, Josh. Really, she needs to save
this young man, even though he is agnostic. She needs
to save him and get him away from her daughter.
So she is going to be as horrible as possible,
telling him he's going to hell so that he'll run
get away from my daughter.
Speaker 1: She wants somebody to take care of her so bad.
Speaker 3: I know she wants him to save her, even though
he's getting nothing out of the deal.
Speaker 1: No, and I don't know if he's surprised either. Honestly, No,
he's not.
Speaker 3: There has to be something that is not right or
he just wants to be in America to be an influencer.
Speaker 2: He seems to really want to be on social media.
Speaker 1: He said, forty year old influencer. Okay, let's talk about
Debbie and is he he is in back thirty? Wow? Wow,
sorry apologies. Okay, let's talk about Debbie and Meadow. Okay, Wow,
that was okay. Debbie and Meadow. Okay, you know, with
all the conversation about my banks, tell me the truth,
do my banks look like Debbie? Because now I'm concerned
that my banks look like Debbie's banks.
Speaker 3: No, and I actually wrote, even though she's going through
torture right now and sobbing on the sidewalk. Her hair
looks good, and I don't know how she gets it
to be so unfrizzy in that New Orleans. That New
Orleans humidity is a killer. So how what products is
she using?
Speaker 1: I wonder if she's got a no, what do you
do when you get it straight resilient blowout? Because it's
bored straight, it's board straight, right, and yeah.
Speaker 2: I've gotten that too.
Speaker 3: It kills you because the formal dide and it's bad,
but you're you're ingesting all of that for me.
Speaker 2: Oh, you have to wear a mask like you, guys,
eyes like, just profusely, guys.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not worth it bad.
Speaker 3: But the humidity, the other hand, the friz, Wow, we
don't like the friz. No, she's but no, your hair
doesn't look like Tibby's.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, I'm concerned. Okay. So twenty five days
to wed so we opened with her ball and crying
on the street of New Orleans. Just can't just a
shell of herself and her white jeans because he's sitting
on throw up. If she's on the streets and New Orleans,
it looks like more like the garden. It looked a
little nicer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very cute street.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be so there's probably not like drunk like
alcohol on the ground.
Speaker 1: It looks like a nice place. But I still just
don't get on the ground in your white pants anywhere. Yeah. So,
because he told her he's going back to Egypt and
he comes down, he goes a d D look at me,
a d D. Look at me, Debbie, Debbie, look at me,
look at me, and she's like no, And he gets
out of ring and places it on the ground and
kneels and he's like a divvy look at me, look
at me?
Speaker 2: Or were you shocked?
Speaker 1: I was furious.
Speaker 2: I was I was furious and I was shocked too.
Speaker 1: I was shocked. And I'm gonna tell you what else
today or yesterday, ninety day fiance like official Instagram posted
you know a little video of this moment. I wrote back,
total dick move. Yeah, and we don't love her and
we definitely don't love him. This is a dick power move.
And I hated it. Hated it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm mad at the show. I'm mad at him.
I'm mad at because.
Speaker 3: I had started to let myself believe that those reports
that they got married were false and that perhaps he does.
Speaker 2: Go back to Egypt and she is.
Speaker 3: Saved from this man, right, And I had my hopes
of they were dashed again.
Speaker 2: And also, this is the worst thing you could do
to someone.
Speaker 3: This is like those those prank DJs on the radio
who call up somebody and are like, I have bad news.
I'm the police and your son died.
Speaker 2: Just kidding. You want tickets to the Rihanna concert? Like, yes, haha, Like.
Speaker 1: This was a I didn't like this prank. I don't
think it's funny. I think it tells you everything you
need to know about his controlling character.
Speaker 3: This is he took what he did when he pretended
he wasn't getting on the plane and he was already
at the airport in the first episode, and that hold
my beer, I'm gonna out asshole myself, yes, and do
an even worse prank.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not funny.
Speaker 3: I'm going to crush this woman's spirit and her soul
and then give her the happiest moment of her life.
Speaker 1: I don't understand what kind of we've definitely diagnosed Katie.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the psychopath, there's something.
Speaker 1: Something is there that is completely wrong for anybody to
think this is the right thing to do.
Speaker 2: So if a guy does this to you, don't marry them.
Don't marry them.
Speaker 1: Marry them.
Speaker 3: And she's the type that where she would be like,
do not put cake in my face at our wedding.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: I'm getting my makeup done. It's the happiest day. I
think it's gross when people do it. It will be
very upsetting to me if you do that. And he
does it anyways, yes, and encourages the crowd to cheer
for him.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, you're so right. So she won't turn around,
so he goes and like hugs her behind her, which
it really is like one of the first times we've
seen him touch her, and he.
Speaker 2: Was gonna strangle her.
Speaker 1: She's ball she's balling, crying and he's smiling like as
he's like in her like look at me.
Speaker 2: And then moment television gold.
Speaker 1: And then she turns around and he gets on the
ground with the ring and he goes, I got you.
She falls to the ground crying even more and it's
like I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you. But
then she hugs him and then she hits him and
then he's laughing and he goes like, I got you,
I got you DD. It's not funny.
Speaker 2: It's not funny.
Speaker 3: And I don't feel like he would have done this
at all if he wasn't on TV.
Speaker 2: I think he's trying to create like gotcha teaching.
Speaker 1: Show show is acting too like to show that he
was like I will go back to jumped.
Speaker 3: One thousand percent and to be the most memorable character
on this season. And he wouldn't have even put in
the effort to do a prank to her if he
wasn't on TV. But this is how he's putting in
the effort not to say I love you.
Speaker 1: So he answered the ring which seems to have a
price on it. Oh my god, it seemed to have
a sticker on it. That was the price tag. But
maybe it was the size, but he says, I don't
know the size or something hurt, but there is a
sticker on it. And he kisses her forehead while he
looks outward.
Speaker 2: Forehead, fore forehead, kiss.
Speaker 1: Forehead, and he laughs and goes, it's not easy to
be with Mito.
Speaker 3: And with his eyes open, yeah, looking he can't even
close his eyes when he kisses her.
Speaker 1: Talking Todd, he goes, I was carrying this ring around.
I was waiting for the right moment, and so she
surprised me. So I surprised her.
Speaker 2: So it's like a revenge thing. Yes, fuck is wrong
with you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she surprised me by showing me this chapel. So
I said, I'll surprise you by saying no, but then
I'll surprise you again by saying I mean So, he says,
We've had our ups and downs, but it just helped
us to understand more things about each other. And now
I know that she's a good person and has a
good heart. And I think before we met each other
she was missing well, we was missing something in our lives.
And now I complete her and she completes me. Everything
is everything is so narcissistic.
Speaker 2: And what do you mean you were waiting for her
to show she's a good person?
Speaker 1: Now now I know. Now I know she's not a
good person. So I will say this that the ring
he gave her seemed to be sort of a small
ring that again had the price tag on it. But
then when she's hugging him, because then she shows it
like we're engaged, it seems to be like a smallish ring.
Then when she's hugging him, you see the smallest ring
with the band under it, and then there's a different
ring that's like a big square, like green or something.
On the other hand, Anyway, I'm gonna have my eye
on this because I feel like maybe it's reenactment and
I don't like that.
Speaker 2: And they're already married. Trust anything on this show.
Speaker 1: You know who we can't trust, and that's Marissa. So
that's who we end with. It's Marissa and Edward, and
boy oh boy, have I really been wanting to root
for her, But.
Speaker 3: She's too She is a member of MENSA and a
genius and an intellectual sophisticate.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew that.
Speaker 3: She is the smartest person and she needs someone to
match her intellectually. I'm not sure if you were aware
of that. She knows that Cecily is part of Italy.
Speaker 1: Okay, she sells wedding.
Speaker 3: Dresses for a living, which I'm sure she has a
nice she has. She has a good job, and I'm
she has a good business mind and things like that,
But she freaking talks like she is securing cancer and
he's a dumb dumb who is like intellectually handicapped.
Speaker 1: Did you hear that she was fired from Kleinfeld for
showing his dick pics to her coworkers.
Speaker 3: I did hear that. I don't is that true? We
know if that is factual?
Speaker 1: I asked another ninety Day fiance member who said they
had also heard that, but they did not know if
it was factual.
Speaker 2: Because on the show, she told them about the circumcision. Right,
I told Dorothy and a couple other people about the circumcision.
But I don't believe we saw her show picture picture.
Speaker 1: But maybe she did.
Speaker 3: The show and they cut it out. But then how
would Kleinfeld know unless someone told him.
Speaker 1: Somebody told on her. That's what I think.
Speaker 3: They don't like her, even though she's the most beloved
coworker they've ever had there besides Randy.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I think that somebody told her. Like I
was very uncomfortable. She showed me a picture of her
husband's dick and I did not want to see it.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 1: Now, we don't know. That's all alleged, so we don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, so she's doing fine now, she started
a bar studio.
Speaker 2: She's fine.
Speaker 3: So She has come alone to New York because she
needs space, and they are majorly connected, as any good
intellectual will say, I'm majorly disconnected right now?
Speaker 1: Did she say she's in mensa? Are you just saying that?
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm just joking.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, she as, I was like, did I
miss that that? She said that? Okay, all right. No.
Speaker 2: So her friend from the party, one of the judge ladies,
he has met her to at Kleinfeld to see her
dress fitting, and she says, I'm surrounded by happy brides
all the time, and it really sucks that, like I
don't have those excited feelings right now. And again she's
so intellectual.
Speaker 1: Guys like what, Like, it really.
Speaker 3: Sucks that, like I don't have these She sounds like
Emma and she is deep intellectual. Also, Dorothy, her work wife,
is there, and Dorothy and the friend gossip immediately. When
Marissa goes to try in the dress, It's like, oh
my god, nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: What do you think about Edward? He's a d me right,
he's not good enough for her?
Speaker 1: Have you seen have you seen that dick?
Speaker 2: Have you seen thee So they are worried.
Speaker 3: They're not sure if she's going to go through at
the wedding, and Dorothy keeps trying to get the friend
to say that she's against it, like but you're what
do you really think? Like do you do you think
she should do it? And the friend keeps trying to
be very diplomatic and like feel Dorothy out. They're each
trying to feel each other out, like do we hate him?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: We hate him right? Because he's not good enough for Marissa.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like on three say it one, yes, exactly,
I'll say it if you say it on three. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So she comes out in this dress that she says,
it's just like me. It's sexy and sophisticated.
Speaker 2: And okay, it's.
Speaker 3: Sort of a Grecian style to me, she looks like
a pillar, a Grecian pillar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3: So the friend says, well, you made the right decision
with the dress. Maris is like, what what do you mean?
And Dorothy goes, well, I just hope you love Edward
for the right reason. And Marissa goes, what do I
love him for his money? He's a poor Well, of
course I don't love him for his money. Did you
hear that joke that I just.
Speaker 1: Made he's a poor okay.
Speaker 2: So Dorothy goes, well, like sex, do you love him
for sex?
Speaker 3: And Maris is like, I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm not one hundred percent sure about the wedding. I'm
like seventy five.
Speaker 2: Percent sure, and Dorothy says, first for me, seventy five
might as well be zero, like you have to be
all in.
Speaker 1: And you know what's interesting? This week on Love After
lock Up, Corey said about Kirsten and Brady, she said,
I give a seventy five percent chance, and we were like,
that's good. That's good for Love after lock Up? He
saw people.
Speaker 2: Yes, good, Yeah, I mean even as in like seventy
five percent of no, fifty percent of Nicole she is
like fifty percent good for me, Chris, Yes, seventy five
was I think how Michael Michael felt about Angela when
they I think it was no there was.
Speaker 1: Baby Girl Lisa, it was so Ja boy and baby Girl.
Speaker 2: It was baby Girl Lisa. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so uh, Dorothy's like it might as well be zero,
and Marissa says, so I can't be sure in forty
five days, like I just can't get to be one
hundred in forty five days, and the friend's like, but
it's been two and a half years that you've known him,
and Marisa says, I know.
Speaker 2: It's just now that we're living together.
Speaker 3: I'm assessing our new dynamic where I've realized he's stupid
and it's basically like marrying someone who has.
Speaker 2: An intellectual disability, the way I have to speak down
to him. So the friend says he was happy, go
lucky and his personality has changed because he can only
take so much of your bitchiness. And Marissa says, yeah,
because he feels beaten down by me. Yes, but I
want him to feel confident and be independent of me.
And she's like, last night I wanted alone time in
the city and I didn't contact him, and at ten
thirty at night, he texted me like have a good night.
Like I felt like there was attitude with the text,
and she says, I'm busy. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Text nine thousand times a day. Well, you're engaged to
him and.
Speaker 1: You just check in.
Speaker 3: You're helping to raise your children, so you should text occasionally.
He's not asking nine thousand, he's asking for one. And
she says he's miserable and he's afraid of messing up
because I'm not being nice to him, because I'm not
happy because of him. It's all his fault that he's
making me act like such a bitch. And Dorothy says,
if you're not certain, you shouldn't get married. And Marisa says,
I shouldn't be settling but the city because she thinks
she's so much better than him. But the situation is
more complicated than my friends realize. And I was like,
what is there something we don't know?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is pregnant? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then she texts Edward, she said. She says, Edward
texts her that she he needs to talk to her
about something important, and he's coming to the city to
meet her. And she's like, oh my god, he is
going to travel into the city alone. No one with
his low IQ should be allowed on the streets without
a supervisor.
Speaker 1: It is three hours away, so you do wonder, like
is he driving? Is there a train?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a train, I'm sure, but like he's
going to navigate the trains by himself.
Speaker 1: Gosh in a language that he reads.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, if money that he has and wow, she
I mean she thinks.
Speaker 3: She needs to have him on a leash like a
little kid. You'd have like a backpack leash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God bless.
Speaker 3: So my brother had one of those because he was
always running off. So she's so they meet up and
he tells us, you know, she barely said goodbye to
me when she went on this trip for a few
days to New York. She didn't even hug me. She's
being very cold and not loving to me. And I'm
doing everything I can to make her happy and she's
not giving it back.
Speaker 2: We're a couple. It's not just her.
Speaker 1: And I was like, finally, yeah, I like he's standing
up to her. I like it.
Speaker 3: Finally it's not all about her and what she wants.
And he says, I need more because I know my
value as a person. And so he meets with her.
He brings her a coffee, which I thought was nice,
and she says she's nervous, like this has to be
important for you to come all this way by yourself
without your adult human like to be.
Speaker 1: What if he walked up and he had one of
those huge badges around his neck that they make the kids,
but like their airline piction, Yes, that says an accompany
of minor. You know that's what I'm Yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 3: He's like going to reenact home alone too, lost in
New York again, like with a backpack on, and he's
gonna like and people will come up to him.
Speaker 2: Do you know where your mom and dad are?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Right, I can't find them. Let me get an officer
to help you. So he says, I don't feel good
with you.
Speaker 3: You just left for four or five days and you
didn't even give me a hug. You know that I
like those things, and you're just so cold. I'm begging
for love and it's not acceptable for me. And she
kind of rolls her eyes, which.
Speaker 1: He really was able to, like really express exactly what
he was upset about, you know.
Speaker 2: Which is all she's wanted. She says, this is what
she's wanted.
Speaker 3: She's like, I want him to stand up for himself
and get mad at me back, like when I'm being
a bitch.
Speaker 2: I want him to be a man. And he's now telling.
Speaker 3: Her, yeah, good good, and she's like rolling her eyes,
and he says, I need affection.
Speaker 2: You were never like this at the beginning, like you've changed, and.
Speaker 3: She says, I'm not affectionate as you you are in general,
and I'm just not in a headspace to be that
way right now. And you're quiet, and I feel like
there's nothing for us to talk about. There's no stimulation.
Speaker 2: Were you having like book club meetings in the dr
when you were first dating? Is this what you're missing?
Like you would download like thesis papers on the internet
and then discuss them exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You want to do like a mock trial where you
would debate each other about like political issues.
Speaker 2: Do you exactly?
Speaker 1: She got the ck because he's like playing so much
with the kids that she's like, that's annoying, but she
wants him to do that. But then she want I
don't know what she wants.
Speaker 3: She didn't like it when they were wrestling upstairs because
she's like, it's now like I have three kids.
Speaker 2: It was really loud and I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: You mess up on the bed, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, it's all about the pillows, and so she
she's like, there's no stimulation. He says, I give you
exactly what you want, and then you complain and she says,
you haven't. You promised to give me space on this trip,
and then you got mad at me, and then she
like smirks like she's got one up on him, and
don't try to tell me you didn't.
Speaker 2: You got mad at me and you know, and but
that happened after you gave him a cold goodbye that
was on this trip, so your point doesn't hold.
Speaker 1: So Also I think he's like, okay, wait, so she's
going to work in the city. She's gonna this is
how it's going to be. Whenever she gets annoyed, she's
just going to flee to her other apartment.
Speaker 2: Right, and now talk to me for days?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right?
Speaker 2: So he says this is new for me.
Speaker 3: You weren't like this before, and she says, I'm not
okay with my life and I can't hug you when
I feel so unsure of things. I am questioning things,
and he says, like, what are you questioning? And she
says our compatibility and if we're even the right fit
to get married, and he tells us this is bullshit.
I can't believe she has the balls to say that
to me, and she tells him every time I put
down a deposit.
Speaker 2: Or book something for the wedding with my money.
Speaker 3: I think, like, is this wedding even going to happen
and she he thinks for her this is just about money.
But for me, I left my entire life to be here.
And why didn't she tell me that she was questioning
all this before? I think she has tried to tell
him several times, like in the park, she told him
she was questioning things. Yeah, but she never had these
questions or told him before he came that she was
having these doubts.
Speaker 1: By the way, why didn't she He's got there plan
all this beforehand, like all the wedding stuff. She should
just had it all planned before they knew they were anyway,
that's neither here or there. But that's annoying to me, doo,
and like, why are you planning it? I'm sixty days out,
Like you should have already done all that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So their showdown in New York showdown continues.
Speaker 1: Well next time on Katie and her friends, it looks
like they're doing like a hin do you know, like
a hindoo instead of like a because he's British, because
they have on fascinators and they're like it was in
the middle of the day, like they're doing tea yea,
And she goes, you know, drunken like, let's play a
game and never have I ever, never ever has Josh
gone down on me. And they're like, okay, never ever
has Josh gone down on me either, Like that's not
how you play the game, dummy.
Speaker 2: You just wanted to humiliate him and he's not even there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then in her talking head she goes, if
I have to have sex with the only Josh for
the rest of my life, it's going to be boring.
And uh, she says to her friends. Once I say
I do, I don't like want it Josh to be
like the only person for the rest of my life
that I can make out with, So I want to
talk to him about it, like like an open relationship.
The whole thing that her whole personality is making out
is just beyond what.
Speaker 3: It is, like a mental illness of something. It's like
it's behavior like this, like sexual like everly sexual behavior
is can be part of like being bipolar or being
you know some I'm again not going to speculate, but
it is like a part of that. But again, she's
brought someone into this and she's not working on herself.
And if he's not down with this sort of thing,
also foisting yourself on people who do not want you
to make out with them is not part of any
that is being.
Speaker 2: A sexual assaulter. So you are. It's it's not even
the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's also surprising that something bad has not happened to
her with that kind of aggressive behavior you could run across.
A guy who's not doesn't just want to make out
is not going to turn out well for you. You know,
he's surprising. So Thomas says to Paula, he says, I
need my apartment to be a safe space from invasive smells.
And she says, you know, I'm so sorry you were
born like this because it's so sad. And he says,
can you handle this? This is who I am and
what I need. And in the talking she goes, I
don't know.
Speaker 2: And he's fine on the farm, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of smells there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's fine the hay, the horses, the cows,
like none of it bothers his galeries.
Speaker 2: She says, chemical allergies.
Speaker 1: She's not sure she can handle this for the rest
of her life. Rod and Maxwell talk and Rod says
to Maxwell, you're not established and I look at you
moving to the United States as a newborn baby, and
Maxwell says, okay, So if you don't trust me, you
should trust Asia because she's a very smart person. And
Rod says, well she was smart before now a ride.
You just hate her by the way I looked it
up while we were talking. And you do have to
have a yellow fever vaccination ten days to four weeks
before you go to Nigeria, yes, days at least. So
suck at Matt Sharp so just kiddy, not mattch Sharp,
just Matt Sharp productions. So Raschid says, if you don't
want a baby, I will have to cut this relationship.
And the talking head, she says, seeing him have no empathy,
maybe I should be the one to say we can
stop right here, buddy, go back to Turkey. She won't
do that. Shaye says to annabel Now I don't like
how things ended with Alison, and Annabelle says Alison is
a spoiled brat. Shaye and his talking head says, I
think they're literally both wrong. And we see them in
the car together, and Shae says to Alison, who's baby
sister in the back. Shaye says, to Alison, you got
a problem with the Annabel or something, and she goes, duh,
that's obvious she's a bitch, and Jay says, well, we're
getting married, so you guys have to work this out.
Talking to Annabelle says, fuck her. I can't believe she
caught me a bitch.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if she calls you a bitch either.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Usually Allison does the snide comments like behind her back,
but now she's she's over that.
Speaker 2: It's right to her face.
Speaker 1: She made fun of my church and I will not
tolerate it.
Speaker 2: Well, also, Shay, you raised this.
Speaker 1: Girl right, we're the other daughter. The other daughter was
only for one of them.
Speaker 3: Nice so like, but they even say Alison's the bitchy
one yea, Like why is everyone okay with that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because she's pretty. I don't know. Everarda
Marissa talk there by the waterfront and he says, we're halfway.
We're on the halfway point to the ninety days now,
so we need to know if we're going to move
forward or not, and she goes, can't you give me
a chance to just think about it? And he goes, no,
I can't and walks off.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you should know by now.
Speaker 1: We know they're gonna get married, so it's gonna work out.
All she needed was them to just stand up to
her one.
Speaker 3: That's when the dynamic flipped and he had the upper
hand and that's what she needed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're going to bang it out. Do we
have time for a quick Kimberly's Corner?
Speaker 3: Well, I watched part of Diaries. Do you want me
to do part of it? Or should I do it
next week?
Speaker 1: Why don't we do it next week? Why don't we
do it next week? And who was on though I
didn't even.
Speaker 3: See Evelyn and Corey, Oh god, fleeing and we found
out what was happening with the fleeing the apartment situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, Emma, Emma who banged Rob? And yeah, it's not
being nice to me and she's getting a Brazilian wax
with her twin sister. Yeah, a lot going on with Emma,
except not really. And then Vea and the dog sitter
mm hmm. She almost died because she had a benign
brain tumor.
Speaker 1: And again got real culty and religious on the internet
talk speaking.
Speaker 2: Because sometimes people go back, like on Plattville.
Speaker 1: Can you remind me how Veya is spelled? Is it V.
Speaker 3: Why sh No, there was a j in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: Because I know, because I feel like was it? It
was it? Because it's like one of your kind of sisters.
I feel like it's because the e a h theya
name in the Bible. It doesn't appear in the Bible,
but it is short for navea heaven spelled backwards. Nailed it.
There we go, There we go, There we go. Because
she was raised in the religious cult kind of Amish
as well. Yeah what does She and ch Kina were
to see others like, hey girl, familiar.
Speaker 2: Wow sisters, cult sisters, high five, former cults.
Speaker 1: Are you guys covering on dateline? The dateline that was
on Friday?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yes we are because mystery.
Speaker 1: It was Blaine, Yes, and uh yeah I watched it.
Speaker 2: There was lots of mushrooms and I really hate mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I do too. I powered through and there was a
lady with a pretty severe tan, pretty severe tan going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it, but in a nice way,
because she have to.
Speaker 1: I'm not past. I'm sure that you do, but I
will tell you right now. I was concerned about her melanoma.
I know me too.
Speaker 2: I did, I did say, get get your moles checked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, everybody, make sure you are following
Kimberly and Katie at day Dayline, and that you're following
them over on YouTube, which is a date with K
and K. And you can also watch this video over
there as well on YouTube. We are there. That is
Pink Shade Bunkies this week, I got Keisha tomorrow and
do and welcome to the platform. Rewatch on Pink Shade
Prime and so good. I can't wait. I haven't watched
that episode yet. Gotta do that.
Speaker 2: Wellbo a little bone to pick.
Speaker 3: I did hear you say to Keisha that it was
the highlight of your week recording with her?
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Keisha doesn't listen, and you do. And
I don't like that you talk about me on Dayline
all the time, and not always nicely. So don't wait
me start pulling some footage. You know why it's the
highlight of my week because it's so easy to do
the notes. Yeah, and because I've already watched it. It's
always gives me a little thrill to remember, Oh yeah,
this is terrible.
Speaker 2: And I know it's your favorite show on TV.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite show. And also Keisha doesn't know what's
going to happen, and I do, and I sort of.
Speaker 2: Like that, yeah, and I get it, and she's delightful.
You get it.
Speaker 1: Keisha still doesn't know about Kimberly, I mean about Kimberly, sorry,
Kim and Olivia and why they initially had that fight
over the MLM money. She still doesn't know about that.
It's coming.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: Already hates Kim a proper amount for where she is
in the show, and she can't imagine hating her anymore.
Speaker 2: Right, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I told her. I was like, you just don't. You can't.
You can't imagine the heights you can go to with
this woman. Wait till Lydia's wedding. You won't believe it.
You won't believe it. So anyway, that's on Wednesdays, everybody.
Speaker 3: And you said Ethan is racheful, and she was like, what,
you have no idea.
Speaker 1: She could help. She's like, he gets more angry. I go,
oh my god, he's not even angry. Oh, we're gonna change.
I'm going to change the name. The five dollars level
of Pink Shade Prime from Andrea's Rage to Ethan's.
Speaker 2: Rage because we need Andre.
Speaker 1: Get out of here. God, get out of here, Andre.
Speaker 3: And don't flatter them. They'll take that as like, oh,
they're talking about us. They want to bs, that's why
they talk about us.
Speaker 1: When I met him, I told him about it and
he was like, what Andrea's rage, that's so funny. He
didn't get it. He didn't get I was making fun
of him to his face. He didn't get it. That's
our show, everybody. We will see you later this week
and again these new shows Age Inappropriate and Double Lives
and subir and Wives, all these shows we will be covering.
Things are switching around a little bit. Also, Hey, I
forgot to say this week Thursday. If you're on Pink
Shade Prime, it's Thursday Night Live, Pink Shade Live on Thursday.
That'll be at eight pm Eastern time. So I gotta
let's see. I gotta look.
Speaker 2: I'll put the log I don't have jury duty.
Speaker 1: When are you finding out?
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 3: I'm on standby, so I have to call Monday. I
called on Friday. They said, you're on standby. You don't
have to come in on Monday. I have to call
Monday night. They're probably gonna say, you don't have to
come on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Call Tuesday night.
Speaker 2: But every night I'm gonna have to call this.
Speaker 1: Current week that we're in, or you talk about next week,
next week.
Speaker 2: Okay, I call Friday, but pink Thursday this week.
Speaker 3: Sorry I forgot, we're on We're in Monday now this
current week.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, Well if you can't be there.
Speaker 2: But I have to call tonight to find out about tomorrow,
and then each night at five pm.
Speaker 1: Okay, if if you can't make it on Thursday Night Live,
we will switch it to another night. Because the point
is staff, the three of us.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let make sure, okay, everybody by the month
time