WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.320 --> 00:00:06.120 Hey, Wicked Fam, I already fucked that up. Hey Wicked Fam. 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.039 I'm Nicole, I'm Ben, And you're listening to Wicked and Grim, 3 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:16.920 a true gram podcast. Good morning following podcast. 4 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:40.960 At your audience listener, just watch well, hello, hello, Hello, 5 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.840 Happy Tuesday. If you're listening to this on Tuesday. 6 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.159 And if you're listening to any other day of the week, 7 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:47.439 happy any other day of the week. 8 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:52.000 There you go. We are like hair straight back around here. 9 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:54.119 Oh my god. I feel like we talk about that 10 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:56.799 every podcast, but well, it just its. 11 00:00:56.759 --> 00:00:58.880 Like our life right now because we're listening our hosts. 12 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:02.039 This week, the tie home gets delivered. This week, I'm 13 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.359 traveling to Victoria to shoot a wedding. It's just like 14 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:06.519 it's a busy. 15 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.560 Week and I'm on a frantic treasure hunt. 16 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:10.840 Oh yeah, you should have been doing that today. 17 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:13.560 I should have long story, shortly work put out a 18 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:15.719 treasure hunt for seven grand hidden in a cash out 19 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:16.159 in the bush. 20 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:18.560 So yeah, and you're not on it, Like what the heck? 21 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:20.439 Well, I think tomorrow after work, I'm going to go 22 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:22.400 look for it because I think I solve the riddle. 23 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.200 Yeah, but I have a feeling that it could already 24 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:26.439 be gone, I don't know. 25 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.799 I work with a lot of people who are not 26 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.040 known for their IQ, so I think I might be golden. 27 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.319 No comment, it's true, no comment. 28 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:39.719 I work in an industry where post secondary isn't a requirement. 29 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.359 In fact, high school graduation isn't a requirement. 30 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:44.719 Oh really yeah, Oh I didn't even know that. I 31 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:45.159 didn't know that. 32 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:47.040 Actually, well, I mean for majority of them, they want 33 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:49.079 it just for the sake of it. But yeah, my 34 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:51.920 specific work site does not require high school graduation. 35 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:54.920 But you've graduated high school. Just to clarify, I have you, 36 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:58.319 thank god, Yeah, and I have post secondary. Just to 37 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:00.760 let everyone know you do. Actually, yeah, we both do. 38 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:04.840 Yeah we're smarties. Boom. 39 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.800 Okay, okay, this is so exciting, you know, it's like 40 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:09.360 really shit. 41 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:12.560 Also, I just want to say, you guys are too 42 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:13.439 good on Instagram. 43 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.039 Oh I know, Okay, one day we're going to win 44 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:16.840 one day. 45 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:18.719 One day I thought we had them for sure. 46 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:20.439 I did, and I knew for sure. I was like, 47 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:21.240 that's too easy. 48 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.400 Well, I was like, okay, there might be one or 49 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:26.520 two people who like know this case specifically, and they'll 50 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:29.319 guess it. Maybe if we're lucky or if they're lucky. 51 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:34.039 But clearly this is more of a like a well 52 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.280 known thing or something. I don't know. I never heard 53 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:38.319 boom boom boom. Everyone just knew. 54 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.400 I know. But I mean, like they're true crime junkies, Like, yeah, 55 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:43.039 that's the thing. 56 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:48.000 I feel like we're the amateurs, even though sometimes like. 57 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:49.800 I know what that is and I was like, really, 58 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:51.520 I just learned about it the other day. 59 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:55.479 Yeah, well either, but anyway, we're gonna make it harder, 60 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:57.479 maybe even blurring photos. 61 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:57.919 Out from here on out. 62 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.639 And now I know a lot about this case. 63 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:03.240 Yeah, a lot, a lot. 64 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:05.039 So you ready? 65 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:05.560 Wait? 66 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:07.599 No, no yet, oh right. 67 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:09.560 Now, I'm ready. 68 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:11.919 Now it's official. Now we can officially get our shit 69 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:12.560 together out here. 70 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:14.400 I'm going white girl today with white Claw. 71 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:19.039 Yeah, Mango. The cherry is the best though, no it's not. 72 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.960 I think cherry is the best. Okay. So this is 73 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:25.879 the story of Caitlin Coleman. But she went by Katie. Katie, 74 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:26.560 Katie Coleman. 75 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:28.879 Let's hear about Katie Katie. What's your story? 76 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.360 Oh? Man, you know what, it's just shitty, But that's okay. 77 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:33.280 Well I kind of know a little bit. And yeah, but. 78 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:37.080 It was January twenty fifth, two thousand and five, and 79 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.000 it started out just like any other day. 80 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:41.159 That's good. It's good, sun was shining maybe. 81 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:43.280 But you know when someone says it started out just 82 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:44.800 like any other day, you can't know. 83 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.960 Yeah, it's shit. You know the rest is going down here? 84 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:51.840 Am I right? So Katie woke up pad breakfast prepared 85 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:57.159 for her day, and her father John Okay, so I 86 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:00.639 already fucked this upisode to go, had breakfast prepared her 87 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.120 mom Angela okay, and then her father John drove her 88 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:04.560 to school. 89 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:06.599 Okay. That's a huge difference there. 90 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.039 Yeah, but I mean she's still prepared for her day. 91 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.400 I mean, I just I missed that her mom made 92 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:13.599 her lovely breakfast, and that just shows that her mom's 93 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:14.360 probably pretty cool. 94 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:16.639 Yeah, cheers to those moms out there doing that hard 95 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:17.399 work for those kids. 96 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:18.680 Exactly, they work hard. 97 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:20.160 Those dads too, don't forget that. 98 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:22.480 Well, the dad drove to school exactly. There you go, 99 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:27.759 all those parents. Yeah, she attended Crawl. Oh, we already 100 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:32.560 went over this Crowther Crotherson, Crowthersville. 101 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.800 It was Brother by the Sea, Brother Brother. 102 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.000 See. I listened to it like I'm pronounced, and then 103 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:43.800 I'm like reading it on I already forgot Okay, Crothersville, Crothersville, 104 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.120 Brothersville nailed it. Now, you guys are all gonna remember. 105 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:52.319 So she attended Crothersville Elementary School in Indiana. Once school 106 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:55.439 was out for the day, Katie headed home as per usual, 107 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.160 this was around three o'clock. She arrived home to find 108 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:00.959 her mom busy preparing dinner. 109 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:03.240 Good mom doing the good mom stuff. 110 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:06.319 And breakfast now making dinner like cool And this makes 111 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:09.839 her sound like an absolute little angel, but she wanted 112 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.879 to help her mom out, so she volunteered to walk 113 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:15.199 to the nearby store to pick up some toilet paper 114 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:19.199 because the family was like pretty much out of ass white. 115 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.600 She's a little angel, they're out of ass white. Way 116 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:23.959 to just drink that? 117 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:25.839 I don't know, Well, like what a sweet little. 118 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:28.240 Girl, right, definitely, I can just picture now, he mom, 119 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:29.879 do you need me to go to the store to 120 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:30.720 pick up some ass? 121 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:32.759 Why she didn't say ass white. 122 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:34.600 I'm sure she did. I'm picturing it. She did. 123 00:05:34.720 --> 00:05:37.079 She said it, And I don't even think I actually 124 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.000 mentioned this in here. But she's like ten, she's ten 125 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:40.959 years old. I don't think I said that. So she's 126 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.600 this little bean, you know, yeah, her mom agreed and 127 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.759 gave her some money. The store she was heading to 128 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.120 was about a block and a half away, and Katie 129 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:51.759 did do this trek often. It wasn't like her first role, 130 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:55.160 She's done it before. And I wanted to mention that 131 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:58.639 the town they lived in, Bruthersville, was a small town 132 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.199 about like fifteen hundred. 133 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:01.839 People are so, okay, it's definitely small. 134 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.519 Yeah, it is small. So everyone knew everyone, and it 135 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.839 came across as a as a relative safe town. But 136 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:11.000 we'll we'll dive into that. 137 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:12.879 One of those places like maybe you can like leave 138 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:14.519 your door unlocked it nights sort of thing. 139 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:16.920 Well, I mean like everyone was up in everyone's business. 140 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:20.160 So and here's okay, this is like a little side 141 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:21.480 story that I wanted to include. 142 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:22.600 Let's hear it, what you got. 143 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:25.360 It has nothing to do with Katie, but it just 144 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:27.800 gives some contexts on like the size of the town. 145 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:31.120 That it appeared to be somewhat of a religious town, 146 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.480 and that, like I said, everyone you know knows knows 147 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:35.079 your business. 148 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:36.120 Yeah. 149 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.959 So a porn store opened in two thousand and five 150 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:42.720 called lions Den. Do you dig it? 151 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:44.240 Lies? 152 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:47.199 Then? Actually, yeah, means the name I'm taking a sip 153 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:47.720 of water here? 154 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.399 Do it take that sip hydrate? It's important. 155 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:51.680 Well, yeah, it's hot here, it's. 156 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:53.040 Like thirty five degrees celsius right. 157 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.759 Now, it's I think it's twenty five. You're way wrong. 158 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:01.040 Then Why do I like sweat just for laying in bed? 159 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:02.480 Like what the fuck? 160 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.720 I'm pretty sure it's only twenty five stories. 161 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.759 Dude, No malarkey, I call malarkey. It's twenty eight. 162 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:09.319 Oh gosh, I was closer. 163 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:11.160 And it's seven thirty pm right now, so it's been 164 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:11.839 cooling off a bit. 165 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:16.360 Yeah, so okay. So from the day the store opened, 166 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:22.759 Christian protesters set up a platform alongside the fence of 167 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:26.639 the property in order to photograph people walking in and 168 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:30.439 out of the store dick move. This was done day 169 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.439 and night, with the photos later being posted to a 170 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:38.399 website that they alleged they said, we'll get two million views, 171 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:44.120 like sure. The protest organizer was the pastor of the 172 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:48.279 First Baptist Church, and the group called themselves the Union 173 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:54.600 Town Watchdogs. Among writing down license plates and notifying trucking 174 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.720 companies if their drivers stopped at the store, they would 175 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:02.360 sometimes yell comments at people entering this porn store and 176 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:04.199 offer them free bibles. 177 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.240 I would be one of those people who goes in 178 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.759 repeatedly and makes my face known. I would go into 179 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:12.360 the store and I would come out with a blow 180 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:16.040 up doll blown up under my arm and being like something. 181 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:23.079 Just to stir up, stir. Yes, it's a bit much like, oh, definitely, 182 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:25.279 just let people live their life, Like, let them just 183 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:26.000 live their life. 184 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:28.519 If someone wants to get their kink on, let them 185 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:29.720 get the kink on, don't kink shame. 186 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:31.600 And I mean it's a store, it's not like it's 187 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:36.320 like against the law, yep. Anyway, So several complaints were 188 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:40.799 also made because at night, the Uniontown Watchdogs would shine 189 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:44.879 a floodlin light in the faces of drivers like passing by, 190 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:47.720 like in preparation to take their photo. So this is 191 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:50.480 like a freaking safety hazard. You imagine driving along the 192 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:53.159 road and thou and this thing just shines right in 193 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:53.720 your face. 194 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:56.840 Yeah, that that's a major car accident waiting to happen. 195 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.279 You think, I get someone drive by with like just 196 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:01.360 not even high on me at night, like a little 197 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.000 extra bright lights, and I'm like about to hit the ditch. 198 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:07.840 I know. Yeah, And I mean it was like our 199 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:10.080 Am I getting abducted by an alien here or what's 200 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:16.120 going on? So the store was eventually shut down, Like, 201 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:19.120 I mean, it's just inevitable, with the reason that the 202 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:24.000 store violated a country licensing or ordinance being in operation 203 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:27.159 within a thousand feet of a residence. Oh god, So 204 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:28.879 I mean they just like, I don't know, that just 205 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:31.879 sounds like made up shiit to me. But anyway, So 206 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:37.600 that's that's the town. Sweet so little Christian Brouthersville. Welcome 207 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:38.480 to Crothersville. 208 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:43.679 Yeah, the good old Brothersville. You know, just porn shaming 209 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:44.480 people and stuff. 210 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:48.440 Oh gosh, okay, So the katy So she was on 211 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.559 route to pick up the toilet paper, right and the toilet. 212 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:54.279 This place, I think it was like a dollar store, 213 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:56.960 was about a block and a half away from her home, 214 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:57.960 so not really that far. 215 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:00.159 She knows the root sort of thing. 216 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:02.639 Yeah, she's good, yea, yeah, totally. Like she's ten. I 217 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:05.159 mean probably at that age you kind of can venture, 218 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:06.720 especially if you're in a small town. 219 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:09.159 Oh yeah, you know. I grew up on a dirt 220 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:11.960 road out in the sticks, like I was by ten, 221 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:14.840 biking kilometers up the road, going out in the bush, 222 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:16.080 playing with friends, and stuff. 223 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.679 So yeah, and I like, I lived pretty close to 224 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:21.080 my elementary school, so I'm pretty sure by then I 225 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.159 was like expected. 226 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:23.559 To walk home. Yeah, most likely. 227 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:28.759 So after purchasing the toilet paper. However, the ass, white 228 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:29.519 ass white. 229 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:30.720 Get that, get it right, Come. 230 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:34.960 On now, Katie did not return home. Katie, she did 231 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:39.799 not return home. Initially, Katie's mom wasn't really worried. Katie 232 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:42.279 was a very popular girl with a lot of friends 233 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:45.279 along the route that she traveled, so the mom kind 234 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:48.559 of just figured that she got caught up playing. Yeah, 235 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:50.600 you know, didn't really realize. 236 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.080 The time shit happens. 237 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.159 Yeah, I mean I think that's like something a ten 238 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.720 year old would do. But she did start making some 239 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.879 calls to see if anyone knew where her daughter was. 240 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:03.200 When Nole came of this, and by this time, Katie's 241 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:06.120 father was also home from work, they started getting a 242 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.799 bit more worried for their daughter's safety and went out 243 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.919 themselves to search for their little girl, following the route 244 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:12.759 that she would have taken. 245 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.919 Again back in that good old parenting. Yeah, they're doing 246 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.320 their thing. They're doing it right, They're doing. 247 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.600 A good job. I like these parents, yeah, because they're 248 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.120 good parents. But I mean they probably, like I imagine 249 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:29.120 like the mom probably feels guilty, probably, which is really shitty. 250 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:32.639 Yeah, you're a little bit off your microphone, You're you're 251 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:33.399 drifting a bit. 252 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:35.840 Well, because we're not facing each other, you're bothering me. 253 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:39.000 Well, I'm sorry that we're in an awkward room right 254 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:40.720 now because we're trying to make our house look good 255 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:42.919 to sell it. Yeah, just turn your points towards your 256 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:45.279 mouth a bit more like this. There you go, because 257 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:46.759 I have a feeling you might drift and like to 258 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.080 probably do it again. Yeah, talking like this and you 259 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.639 can't really hear shit because you're over here sort of thing, 260 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:51.840 you know. 261 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.919 Okay, So it was around seven thirty eight when they 262 00:11:55.919 --> 00:12:00.639 called the police to report their daughter missing, gotcha, and 263 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:02.519 she left to go to the story around three, so 264 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:04.240 it was a little bit of time in there, right. 265 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:07.720 So when the police arrived at Katie's house, there were 266 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.320 already hundreds of people out searching for Katie. Oh wow, 267 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:13.600 you know, like they all want to do their part. 268 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.559 Their search went through the night. They had a helicopter 269 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.320 and sent dogs on it. Katie's scent led the dogs 270 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:23.799 to the nearby train tracks, but then the scent was 271 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:24.399 lost again. 272 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:24.960 Oh shit. 273 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:27.720 A neighbor did tell Katie's family that on the day 274 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:30.399 she disappeared, she had come to their house to let 275 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.720 them know their dog had been killed on the train tracks. 276 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:37.159 So she was over there and one of the neighbors 277 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:39.120 did know, which is shitty that the dog died too. 278 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:41.759 I was thinking, like someone like drug her over there 279 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.039 and on the train. 280 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.200 Or something I know, I know, or like that she 281 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:47.120 just took off on a train or. 282 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:49.200 Well, by the sounds of it, I can't see Katie 283 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:50.360 taking off on her own sEH. 284 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.799 I don't think she would do that. So it wasn't 285 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.960 until two days later that an amber alert was issued. 286 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.559 There was no initial evidence of an abduction until an 287 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.919 eyewitness came forward claiming they saw a girl who looked 288 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.639 like Katie in a white pickup truck. The witness described 289 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.519 the driver as a very skinny, white man about six 290 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:15.600 feet tall, with short, dark hair and a fair complexion. Okay, okay, 291 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.399 So a sketch was a released of this, and I 292 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:21.080 should almost like the sketches just like horrific. Like I 293 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:22.559 saw the sketch and I was like, holy shit, I 294 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:25.919 could be a sketch artist. Should because it's like not good, 295 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:28.559 Like like I'm saying that because I'm a terrible driver 296 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:29.480 or driver. 297 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:31.919 I mean you will kind of all gay. 298 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:33.799 Actually I'm an amazing driver. 299 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.399 You have road rage out the ass, Okay. 300 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:39.240 But that's not really bad though, yes, is bad. I 301 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.480 don't ever like I just like swear when I'm driving, 302 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:42.519 I don't do anything. 303 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:44.039 And then you speed up and tailgate the guy that 304 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:44.639 you all know. 305 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.039 I do not tailgate. That's like my pet peeve, like, 306 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.159 don't tailgate. Don't tailgate. That will make me just like 307 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:51.879 lose my shit. 308 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:55.240 See, I'm like, if someone pisses me off, I don't swear, 309 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.279 I don't curse, but well maybe a little bit, but 310 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:59.759 I don't get mad, but I will fucking tailgate the 311 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:01.919 ship that of them, and I will let them know that. 312 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:03.960 Yeah, I've been tail getting is the worst. Like if 313 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:05.919 someone if I'm just like driving to work and someone's 314 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:11.639 tailing to me, instantly, my day's shit. It's like back off, okay, 315 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:12.200 if I may. 316 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:13.919 I've got a bit of a story for everyone listening 317 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:19.759 out there. We own a Chevy Silverado, bright fucking orange 318 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:20.440 pickup truck. 319 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.399 Like it's think of a pylon because like Ben likes 320 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:24.120 to be noticed. 321 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.480 I like bright colors. I'm an out there kind of guy. 322 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:29.159 It's like a pylon color, like in a construction zone. 323 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:33.000 For whatever reason, this thing is just a magnet for 324 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.720 people cutting you off. Like I can drive a car, 325 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:40.480 another truck, suv, whatever, other people's vehicle, never get cut off. 326 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:42.600 Drive this truck. You will get cut off two or 327 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:44.120 three times just going downtown. 328 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.200 And I've been driving it recently just because our car 329 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:51.759 isn't like doing the best of shape. And yeah, you're right, 330 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:53.039 it's ridiculous. 331 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:53.840 I don't understand. 332 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:57.960 It is actually is crazy, like it just blows your mind. Okay, 333 00:14:58.240 --> 00:14:59.240 you're down. What's the story? 334 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:00.240 Sorry? 335 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:01.039 You done? 336 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:02.399 I digress. I'm sorry. 337 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:05.840 Okay, that's fine. Now we all know. Okay, So the 338 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.559 witness also mentioned the girl in the truck did not 339 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:09.960 appear to be in distress. 340 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:11.720 Okay, I don't know. 341 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.799 I just thought i'd throw it in there. Missing person 342 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:19.039 posters described Katie as being four feet six inches with 343 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.720 chin length, brown hair and brown eyes. She was last 344 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.679 spotted wearing a red shirt, black sweatpants with a stripe 345 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:30.240 down the leg, black tennis shoes, and a medium light 346 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.840 blue winter coat. It also described Katie as having a 347 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:34.600 lazy eye. 348 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:38.720 I'm sorry, but as soon as you described the sweatpants 349 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:40.720 with a stripe down the leg, I was just taken 350 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:42.679 back to like two thousand and three with like juicy 351 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:43.759 written across some booty. 352 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.600 I don't know why, Yeah, well this okay, I'm just 353 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:52.080 trying to think in two thousand and five, like I 354 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.919 guess we would have been a little bit older. Hey yeah, 355 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:56.320 oh yeah, we. 356 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:57.879 Were school two thousand and six. 357 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.120 Okay, never mind, we're older. Because I was like, I 358 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:01.159 probably have pants like that. 359 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:03.720 Did you? Did you have juicy booty? No? 360 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:06.399 I didn't do the juicy booty sweatpants, but I definitely 361 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.120 had like the track pant that had like the buttons 362 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:10.639 on it that you. 363 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.960 Could just like the tarraways. Yeah, yeah, you. 364 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:17.279 Know I had. They were red and they had purple accents. 365 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:21.120 Well we should do is we should get tearaway sweatpants 366 00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.320 with Juicy written on them on the bottom. 367 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:24.279 And sell them for money. 368 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:25.480 No, just you and me wear them. 369 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:27.360 No one would buy that. 370 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:30.080 We'd walk around town just wearing juicy terrorways. 371 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:31.879 Wow, we would have no friends. 372 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.519 Oh, you can have Juicy on it and mine can 373 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:36.159 say booty there. 374 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:37.960 We go, we'll walk down the street together. 375 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:40.399 Yeah, it'll be juicy booty or booty juicy. 376 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:44.679 I guess. Okay. So these parents issued a written statement 377 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:49.080 pleading for their daughter's safer turn, saying, please do not 378 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.840 harm her. We asked you just drop her off anywhere 379 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:54.679 so that she may return to a family and community 380 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:57.919 loves her very much and misses her dearly. Like I 381 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:01.559 can only imagine like these four parents like that, what heartbreaking. 382 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:04.400 So it was on the fifth day of the search, 383 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:08.720 so January thirtieth, that the search would end for the town, 384 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.440 but not in the way that everyone wanted it to end. 385 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:13.160 Of course. 386 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:17.599 Katie's parents received news that Katie's body had been found 387 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.440 in a creek by an Indiana State Police trooper, the 388 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:25.160 creek being in the I think it's Cypress Lake area, 389 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:29.319 around nineteen miles away from Katie's home. Her hands were 390 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:33.319 bound behind her back. She had been raped, and her 391 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:37.880 final cause of death was drowning. Poor Katie, Like my 392 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:39.599 heart just like sinks for her. 393 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:42.440 That's that's just so sad. 394 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:45.279 It's like ten, like she just didn't get to like live. 395 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:47.920 Her life, no kidding, and to go through something like 396 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.200 that at ten years old too. Yeah, God, whoever did by? 397 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:53.200 People are bringing nasty. 398 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:55.599 You're nasty. 399 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:57.839 I mean I say that so often, but it's just 400 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:02.079 like people are disgusting, Like they're disgusting your nasty. Not 401 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.440