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Speaker 1: Two hundred and eighty nine and we are, you know,
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Speaker 1: You know, Travis is returning to us this week. I've
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna be asked when David asked me
Speaker 2: Chris last week, I thought that somehow they pulled the
Speaker 2: Spider Man trailer back at a certain point. So I'm
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Speaker 1: Yep, So I mean we once then we'll have a
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Speaker 2: I've been good, Chris. Like you mentioned earlier about our
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Speaker 2: the places DC's been in the last five six years
Speaker 2: is pretty crazy. Also pretty crazy. I think we both
Speaker 2: have done almost three hundred episodes. But besides that, tomorrow's Friday,
Speaker 2: so I can't really complain. I'm happy that the week
Speaker 2: is over.
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Speaker 2: I like the level up day. I might have to steal.
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Speaker 2: Oh oh we are the flash. Oh my god, just
Speaker 2: the first season was so good. Yeah, well let's talk about.
Speaker 1: Yes so, but yes, the let so. We've been hearing
Speaker 1: about this since last week, lots of rumors. He kept
Speaker 1: on getting discussed and a lot in a lot of
Speaker 1: Scooper madness. You never know what to believe. But it
Speaker 1: was gaining traction that the first official teaser trailer for
Speaker 1: Spider Man Brand New Day was dropping this week. Once
Speaker 1: we found out that the Dune three trailers dropping on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: well we figured at a point it was going to
Speaker 1: be dropping the next day. At least, you know, there's
Speaker 1: friendly competition, but they're also not going to take away
Speaker 1: from each other's each other's fan base. But so you know,
Speaker 1: before we break it down, what was your kind of
Speaker 1: high level thoughts on the first teaser.
Speaker 2: I can't believe how much I smiled through this, seeing
Speaker 2: how lonely and sad Peter was the majority of this.
Speaker 2: But then I realized and remembered one of my favorite
Speaker 2: scenes in the entire trilogy before that was when he
Speaker 2: was leaving for Spider Man in the first film and
Speaker 2: has to watch all his friends playing and enjoying, And
Speaker 2: I just got with great power comes great responsibility vibes,
Speaker 2: and the same thing here, Chris when we get into
Speaker 2: the trailer. But that's the vibe that I got that
Speaker 2: and I just kept thinking after the second half of
Speaker 2: the trailer, neogenic recombinator. I don't know why, but that
Speaker 2: just kept popping into my head, And Yeah, I just
Speaker 2: love this trailer. I can't wait to get into it.
Speaker 2: And this Spider Man seems like we're just building off
Speaker 2: the past events of the prior three and this is
Speaker 2: a little bit more street level vibe for the film,
Speaker 2: which I'm glad coming off the multiverse madness we had
Speaker 2: of the last one. Yep.
Speaker 1: So this title is off of this storyline event Spider
Speaker 1: Man Brand New Day. This is actually the first follow
Speaker 1: under the album. There are two that are released a
Speaker 1: third one on it that concludes this saga of Brand
Speaker 1: New Day. It is a time in Spider Man that
Speaker 1: is post post that that a little event that shall
Speaker 1: not be necessarily developed up where we'll just call it
Speaker 1: where Mephisto basically Peter Parker makes it both Mefisto to
Speaker 1: end his marriage in order to save his aunt's life
Speaker 1: and that the world would forget who Spider Man is
Speaker 1: outside of the ones who do officially know, so no more,
Speaker 1: no more marriage, ending a long, long, long history of that.
Speaker 1: Peter Parker and Mary Jane are no longer married. They
Speaker 1: were together at one point, but we actually covered one
Speaker 1: moment in time, which is a follow up to One
Speaker 1: More Day at that point, so we are you know,
Speaker 1: it's just based on that kind of idea of a
Speaker 1: new beginning for Peter. There's also another comic that will
Speaker 1: be will be referencing towards the end of this trailer
Speaker 1: of what's happening to Peter that they seem to be
Speaker 1: kind of homaging and bringing forward. But let's pull up
Speaker 1: the trailer. I was, I'm like you, I was very
Speaker 1: just very happy. I've seen this a bunch of times
Speaker 1: already to be very excited for it. But this officially
Speaker 1: picks up four years later from No Way Home.
Speaker 2: Which is quite a time jump when you think about it,
Speaker 2: like that's that's quite a jump for the characters. So
Speaker 2: I hope we don't have too much filling in between.
Speaker 2: I hope it still keeps to pay something on.
Speaker 1: The film, all right, So we are pulling it up now.
Speaker 2: Sad vibes yep.
Speaker 1: So we see trailer opens as we see Peter Parker
Speaker 1: and his new Spider Man suit, sporting that shiny new
Speaker 1: websuitters sitting upside down in the skyscraper as we see
Speaker 1: New York Skyline. No longer hanging upside down with friends
Speaker 1: or anyone. He is alone, and now he's watching that
Speaker 1: social media post by Ned and MJ excited start at mit.
Speaker 1: But this is four years later, so we don't know
Speaker 1: if there's going to be a time if this is
Speaker 1: seeing in the present when he did see it and
Speaker 1: then it's gonna flash four four years later, or he's
Speaker 1: just seeing, you know, reliving what was done four years
Speaker 1: later at that point because he's in New York, you know, so,
Speaker 1: and we're going to see he's going to be in
Speaker 1: the same They're going to come back to New York.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's gonna be a time
Speaker 1: jump or anything like that. But obviously MJ admits that
Speaker 1: she's never been happier than ever before, but Peter's not
Speaker 1: with her, and she.
Speaker 2: Got to be a gut punch, Chris, It got to
Speaker 2: be a gut punch because she she doesn't really she
Speaker 2: doesn't really express that and I will say, jumping into
Speaker 2: what you just said, I do think just thinking about it,
Speaker 2: this might be we get a cold open like this
Speaker 2: where he watches that and then after he takes in
Speaker 2: some bad guys or something on the street, though, then
Speaker 2: we go to four years later. Maybe, yeah, that would be.
Speaker 1: That would be kind of my thing because that was
Speaker 1: after watching a bunch of times. Why would they, you know, again,
Speaker 1: four years later? Why would we be watching something four
Speaker 1: years ago and we're jumping ahead and they're back in
Speaker 1: New York. So you're I think you're right. I think
Speaker 1: we're going to get that that kind of montage we
Speaker 1: kind of see at the end of this trailer. Yes,
Speaker 1: fighting bad guys and going forward. So I think that's
Speaker 1: a very good, very good theory. I do subscribe to that.
Speaker 1: But this is a new Peter that we haven't gotten before.
Speaker 1: You hear Simon's a bicker and his size puts that
Speaker 1: mask on. This is going back to work, and you
Speaker 1: know as we get down down this, you know it
Speaker 1: takes that fall. This is I just want to say,
Speaker 1: the suit looks the suit looks amazing. This cloths suit,
Speaker 1: it looks amazing. This is a pet, This is a
Speaker 1: suit that he's no longer a tech it's one that
Speaker 1: he is designed. It's not outfitted with all Stark tech
Speaker 1: or anything like that. This is Peter going back to
Speaker 1: back to formula as it were.
Speaker 2: No gadgets either, just seems like him in his webshooters.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: So this is the first time we've kind of shot
Speaker 1: for in the mask, seeing his eyes as he free falls,
Speaker 1: highlighting the changing characters we as since the world has
Speaker 1: forgotten about Peter Parker, we don't see this perspective very much,
Speaker 1: you know, outside of you know, it's very much iron man.
Speaker 2: Esque, you know, yeah, but I think of the same thing.
Speaker 1: But he's emotionless, he's focused on being the hero, but
Speaker 1: he's clearly chained by the one he loves, and he's
Speaker 1: trapped in the role of Spider Man in this new suit.
Speaker 1: And this is the thing I'm gonna point out a
Speaker 1: few times. He he does not have a life outside
Speaker 1: of Spider Man, and that is one of the most
Speaker 1: dangerous times for Peter Parker, for any hero, they're they're
Speaker 1: even even the ideas of any any hero just in general.
Speaker 1: Superman's dealt with it, things like that. But when Peter
Speaker 1: goes fully in and just goes into just being Spider Man.
Speaker 1: It is never ends up in a good result. Even
Speaker 1: Batman's tried it in the comics and it just turns.
Speaker 1: I mean, Batman can be a royal jerk a lot
Speaker 1: of times, but when he just said I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be Batman the whole time, that's not a good thing.
Speaker 1: He needs Wayne, Peter needs. Spider Man needs Peter Parker Clark,
Speaker 1: Superman needs the Clark. Can't they need their alternative. But
Speaker 1: he has no one. So he's in a very unique
Speaker 1: position where nobody knows who he is. People he loving
Speaker 1: care about don't know who he is. He is out
Speaker 1: there alone, so this is the only thing he can
Speaker 1: hold on to.
Speaker 2: And the reverse has happened in comics as well, where
Speaker 2: Peter will try to get rid of his Spider Man's side.
Speaker 2: Like I remember the old school comics where he took
Speaker 2: he tried to make an antelope for himself and he
Speaker 2: spread it out the arms. It became not sweet Man Spider.
Speaker 2: But I'll say, like six arms Spider Man. Like that
Speaker 2: happens too when he tries to get rid of the
Speaker 2: Spider size. So, like you said, this is just a
Speaker 2: reverse of this where he's fully non Spider Man and
Speaker 2: nothing with Peter Parker, like nobody knows who he is.
Speaker 1: Yep, but I think that was a cool shot at
Speaker 1: that point, hearing him breaden.
Speaker 2: Really add to that.
Speaker 1: So he's reading that note, he's reading that note where
Speaker 1: that he was going to give to m J, you know,
Speaker 1: saying I'm Peter Parker. You don't remember me, you know
Speaker 1: we used to know each other. But someone's bad is
Speaker 1: going to happen. Everyone forgot why is it's but because
Speaker 1: I'm not just Peter Parker, I'm Spider Man. And he's
Speaker 1: saying monologue and who walks in? He sees who does
Speaker 1: he see?
Speaker 2: Well, he's I thought you meant who walked into the apartment.
Speaker 2: I was like, nobody, Oh my Ned? But Ned looks
Speaker 2: not exactly like he used to look the years of
Speaker 2: a little different.
Speaker 1: The actor has lost lost some way in real life
Speaker 1: at that point.
Speaker 2: So I just meant his face he seems more like
Speaker 2: like his hair is down and a little bit of
Speaker 2: a different vibe. That's all.
Speaker 1: But look how I'm sorry, Look how bad Peter looks.
Speaker 1: Peter looks bad, like bags under his eyes. He you know,
Speaker 1: he sees his friend, and you can see him just
Speaker 1: longing to want to call out to him and just
Speaker 1: give him a hug, but he can't.
Speaker 2: You know, because it'll be weird for this random guy
Speaker 2: to come up and talk to me. And they don't
Speaker 2: even know him from school, because if you recall the
Speaker 2: end of the previous maybe all of the school trips
Speaker 2: in that block, like he's not in any of them.
Speaker 2: Really he is, but you can't see his face or anything,
Speaker 2: so none of his classmates remember him either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we see him seen him by the washing
Speaker 1: machine with watching alone, washing his his spider suit, you know,
Speaker 1: a first for the WebCrawler because we've only seen him
Speaker 1: use textsuits, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even in the comics, he had to do this
Speaker 2: and put a bag over his head while he's washed
Speaker 2: his clothes. Back in the old days, all right, not theeing.
Speaker 1: What's pointed this out. We know based on what we've
Speaker 1: heard is that the Spinder and Brand New Day takes
Speaker 1: place after Daredevil Born Against season two. So if you
Speaker 1: don't want what we are assuming is a an inadvertent
Speaker 1: spoiler that they've decided to put out here, can disappear
Speaker 1: for about like thirty seconds three to one getting the
Speaker 1: key to the city. Usually get the key to the
Speaker 1: city from the mayor. Yeah, and this is this is
Speaker 1: the mayor's kind of I wouldn't call her deputy or
Speaker 1: anything like, you know, kind of right hand person. But
Speaker 1: she is handing them this and it's not Kingpin. So
Speaker 1: what's happened with Kingpin? We also know that the showrunner
Speaker 1: Are Born Again season two has said that they will
Speaker 1: conclude the Kingpin mayor King Pink storyline in season two.
Speaker 1: Conclude just means to bring into clothes. We don't know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to king Bean.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 1: I it's gonna be mayor. We just said that storyline
Speaker 1: is gonna be concluded. But is she the mayor? Is
Speaker 1: she just like presenting the key on the mayor's behalf
Speaker 1: we're making we're making them jumping into assumptions that just
Speaker 1: saying she's the mayor. But I don't think that's a
Speaker 1: jumping to conclusion. That is far far outside of the
Speaker 1: romal possibility because again, who usually gives the key to
Speaker 1: the city, the mayor.
Speaker 2: She is one hundred percent of the mayor, like the
Speaker 2: Kingpin is not gonna be mayor after this season of
Speaker 2: like Hunting nine heroes, Like that's gonna end not well
Speaker 2: for him. I do think he's gonna transition himself into
Speaker 2: more of the kingpin role that we've known him as.
Speaker 2: With the white suit in the background. I think he's
Speaker 2: gonna say something like holding Mayor's office, Like that's not
Speaker 2: power to me, Like that's too out of the open.
Speaker 2: I gotta be behind the scenes for now. I do
Speaker 2: you think I see something like that where he's a
Speaker 2: bit more like the comic book counterpart rather than like
Speaker 2: he's been right out the open this entire show run
Speaker 2: as a businessman.
Speaker 1: You see Nad and MJ. Wathington just watching it, and
Speaker 1: it almost looks like, you know, MJ is kind of
Speaker 1: longing for something. What do you think, Like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's trying to sort something out.
Speaker 2: Chris, we don't hang on those looks that line if
Speaker 2: we're not trying to tell the audience something with this,
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what they're trying to say. It's like
Speaker 2: she still feels something inside of her, but she can't
Speaker 2: explain what if that is or why that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's the big going on is like by
Speaker 1: the end, it is the spell going to be broken.
Speaker 1: We don't know. I'll have to kind of, well, I'll
Speaker 1: be kind of some ideas.
Speaker 2: We'll think about reverse mephists though.
Speaker 1: So we see him looking at this key, but I
Speaker 1: think he's kind of looking at this key. It's like,
Speaker 1: this means nothing to me, like the cool Yeah, he can't,
Speaker 1: he can't celebrate May's dad. Nobody again, nobody remembers who
Speaker 1: he is. He's got no friends or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Like my question is what is he doing for money?
Speaker 1: Like that's my That's what I'm going to be very
Speaker 1: curious about, is what is he doing to make money?
Speaker 2: I think we get an expartment. I think we get
Speaker 2: an explanation of well, I'm not sure if that's his
Speaker 2: compartment though I can't actually maybe it's not. So yeah,
Speaker 2: never mind, scratch my explanation. I thought he would just
Speaker 2: be working for the Bugle.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he's Spider Man. That's his full focus and that's all
Speaker 1: that's all he can do.
Speaker 2: Sold May's house.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a cool, cool shot, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's awesome and again superstreet level, which I love.
Speaker 1: And I also like the the instrumental version of the
Speaker 1: Spider Man Spy. I it's it. I like it because
Speaker 1: it's a mix of like kind of a little happy
Speaker 1: but also a little melancholy, a little sad for what's
Speaker 1: going on with Peter.
Speaker 2: I did go humming that the rest of the day
Speaker 2: after watching this, and yeah, this looks great. This. I
Speaker 2: do like the action we've seen so far in the
Speaker 2: swinging and there we.
Speaker 1: Go, there we go, Yeah, we gotta go back and
Speaker 1: he gets hit by the Punisher mobile. Frank Castle we
Speaker 1: know he was cast in this. We see our first
Speaker 1: look at Frank Castle returning as the Punisher. Now we
Speaker 1: don't know when his special presentation mini movie is coming out.
Speaker 1: My guess is I don't know if it's going to
Speaker 1: come up immediately after Born Again or after Spider Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They like sometimes spreading these things out
Speaker 1: a bit, but we have no official release time on that.
Speaker 2: But he after spoder Man, but before Avengers, is my guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could. Yeah, I think that's what it's going
Speaker 1: to really end up happening, just to kind of say, oh,
Speaker 1: Punisher's what's this about? And it's cool just because the
Speaker 1: first appearance up Punisher was in Spider Man was in
Speaker 1: a Spider Man comic, so it is kind of that homage.
Speaker 1: But obviously they've encountered each other because he's like, what
Speaker 1: the hell, Frank.
Speaker 2: And he got the door window with the little slide
Speaker 2: so that he can stick us gone at it and
Speaker 2: not break his whole wind jill, which is awesome and
Speaker 2: funny what happens after And the.
Speaker 1: Thing is only Frank would need to think that, because
Speaker 1: how many times is he going to need to shoot
Speaker 1: straight out and keep on replacing windshields. But he's got
Speaker 1: this little grenade launcher and Peter Spider Man webs it
Speaker 1: up and Frank's got a perfect response, suit yourself.
Speaker 2: Shoot them. I do love this. This is awesome and
Speaker 2: I love that how he.
Speaker 1: Just kicks it through the window and just at the
Speaker 1: that's a cool move for Peter to do.
Speaker 2: It's it's awesome, and he's a go home Frank, which
Speaker 2: is like classicspiring and I just again got so much.
Speaker 2: This is part of why I was grinnin. But it's
Speaker 2: all over the place here. This is fun, but we
Speaker 2: also know he's not in the greatest headspace even though
Speaker 2: he's doing this stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you quit your whimpering and you know he
Speaker 1: beves to drop the the NF line on him, but
Speaker 1: you know, Peter webbs him up. And that's and I
Speaker 1: think that's what people worried about with how are they
Speaker 1: going to nerve the punish her in this? And you
Speaker 1: know it's it's it's one of the things that they're
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna be tongue in cheek about this. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that Frank Castle is going to be forever
Speaker 1: nerved at this point. There's gonna be a special personation
Speaker 1: as basically rated R. That's that's what it is. And
Speaker 1: John Bernhaal has been so protective of doing the character
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't have agreed to do that be in
Speaker 1: this if he didn't feel that there was some kind
Speaker 1: of balance that it's still preserved who his interpretation of
Speaker 1: the character is, which I think, in my opinion, is
Speaker 1: one of the best, if not the best interpretation of
Speaker 1: Frank Castle in live action.
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree about the best interpretation of Frank Castle
Speaker 2: in live action. But also when spoder Man and Punisher
Speaker 2: came up, spider Man tries to stop punish her from
Speaker 2: having a lot of casualties or like killing just like
Speaker 2: the Air Devil does like that's something that's part of this.
Speaker 2: And again, Frank, I've seen Punisher interact with Spider Man
Speaker 2: in animation and in comics, and I do see sometimes
Speaker 2: where Punisher does lighten up his way of things when
Speaker 2: he teams up with spoder Man. Like not super crazy,
Speaker 2: but like again, I do think this is work. And
Speaker 2: like you said, Bernehal is very protective of the character,
Speaker 2: so I don't think he's just going in anything for
Speaker 2: a payday or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it could be very cool to
Speaker 1: see how both Spider Man and Frank. You know, how
Speaker 1: Spider Man annoys him with his quips, getting it in
Speaker 1: his way stop him from getting his target. It's at
Speaker 1: least clear that we're getting the same thing. But Spider
Speaker 1: Man isn't a fan of the way Punisher deals situation.
Speaker 1: He'd rather handle it on his own. And obviously, as
Speaker 1: like I said, they've encountered each other before, so he
Speaker 1: knows who he is, but he doesn't want to take
Speaker 1: him to jail, so that's interesting. Though he webs him up,
Speaker 1: he webs his mouth, but leaves him to be. He
Speaker 1: doesn't try to sweb him up and leave him for
Speaker 1: the cops.
Speaker 2: We also got to remember that this is coming off
Speaker 2: the events of Daredevil's season two because that is before
Speaker 2: spoder Man, right, So yeah, we don't know how Frank
Speaker 2: ends up after, like like he might have a better
Speaker 2: position in terms of the public sentiment for New York
Speaker 2: City after taking King Vinn's operation, So like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how spoder Man views him after that either, because
Speaker 2: he's basically been killing everybody before this. So who knows
Speaker 2: how the events of There Devil season two will affect this.
Speaker 2: I know it does, so yeah, tell him go home,
Speaker 2: Heartbreak City.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so he says that it even yes, Peter Parker,
Speaker 1: you know that he has to make those sacrifices, even
Speaker 1: if it breaks Peter Parker's heart. And so we see
Speaker 1: he's at a party, a house party, and he sees
Speaker 1: MJ getting close to someone who is played by Ammon
Speaker 1: as Fondie and he plays Ezra Ezra in uh you
Speaker 1: know Ahsoka, so this time but without the beard. A
Speaker 1: lot of people have theorized that he is playing the
Speaker 1: character of Paul, which is a very much loath character
Speaker 1: new character in the comics that that spoiler used to
Speaker 1: be tied to MJ. They have since now broken up.
Speaker 1: She has broken up with him, I know, yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're not. But that's not getting Peter and MJ together.
Speaker 1: That has been. They're still trying to be friends at
Speaker 1: this point, but there's a Mary Jane being venom is
Speaker 1: not something that I had in my Bengal card for
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: No, and even in the game I have to talk.
Speaker 1: For another day. But yeah, so we did. This was
Speaker 1: gonna be an evil that MJ was gonna be tied
Speaker 1: to someone in this movie that was gonna like tear
Speaker 1: out at Peter's heart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rough, but again that's part of That's one
Speaker 2: of my favorite scenes in the first trilogy is Tara
Speaker 2: his heart. He wants to be with Liz but has
Speaker 2: to go do spoder Man stuff. And right, here's the
Speaker 2: exact same thing he wants to tell her. Well, it's
Speaker 2: not exact same. He just don't want to tell her
Speaker 2: because of what could have happened to her because she
Speaker 2: knows spoder Man's identity. So uh, he thinks he protected her.
Speaker 2: But most time in all comics, when we see this,
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. And let's say here we see why.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if he falls down saying what's happening to
Speaker 1: me all of a sudden collapses, wakes up and is
Speaker 1: in a cocoon outside. So a couple of things with this.
Speaker 1: So this is what I think is one of the
Speaker 1: most fascinating that Now we heard rumors of this early
Speaker 1: on in filming that they were going to be kind
Speaker 1: of Peter was going to be changing. Peter's going to
Speaker 1: be evolving in this, and we thought, oh, like becoming
Speaker 1: the hero, you know, without the tech. No, it's going
Speaker 1: to be that like he's going through metamorphosis kind of
Speaker 1: like how you know what sometimes the Spider does. We're
Speaker 1: going to see different things. Now when he does this,
Speaker 1: you hear the web shoot come out, but we don't
Speaker 1: see it. I'm very confused by this because we know
Speaker 1: at this point he's gaining the ability to have organic webbing.
Speaker 2: Yes, because because.
Speaker 1: Look when when we get to the next sequence and
Speaker 1: just saying the man's in tiptop shape, he I mean me,
Speaker 1: knew Tom Hall has gotten his shape for a Spider
Speaker 1: Man role, but I think he's taking it to a
Speaker 1: new level with this.
Speaker 2: Oh, agreed, agreed.
Speaker 1: And so he's grabbing onto something you know clearly he's
Speaker 1: I mean, look at those look at those arms. I'm jealous,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2: And I mean, who's to say it's not possibly that
Speaker 2: black coup.
Speaker 1: I could be.
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's organic webshooters, But.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I put the factor of fiction out
Speaker 1: there a couple of weeks ago that you know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna see some sort of some sort of another hint
Speaker 1: towards the symbia. But I don't think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: until towards the end of the movie. But this is
Speaker 1: the metamorphois. Is he's going to now gain organic webbing. Now.
Speaker 1: I remember in the in the movies with you know,
Speaker 1: told Maguire that one of the things that irked a
Speaker 1: lot of us combook fans was that, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: he's gotting organic webbing. You know, that's not Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: One of the things that made Spider Man so cool
Speaker 1: and unique was that he had to make his own
Speaker 1: web shoots. He's a scientist, That's how he kind of
Speaker 1: you know, always think that he could he could run
Speaker 1: out because he doesn't have enough cartridges. But you know,
Speaker 1: then they brought that I can't remember it was before
Speaker 1: after they burn comics to what they're hinting at it
Speaker 1: as kind of metamorphosis and changing. There's a storyline of
Speaker 1: the Spider Man comics called The Other and it basically
Speaker 1: kind of goes through Peter Parker does go through this
Speaker 1: metamorphos and it is tied to the idea of the
Speaker 1: Spider Totems that throughout the multiverse, different Spider Man characters
Speaker 1: are a totem if you know very much. You know
Speaker 1: the Spider Verse movies kind of deal with this a
Speaker 1: little bit, but this deals with it with the Inheritors Morland.
Speaker 1: This the the the vampires that feed off the Spider
Speaker 1: Totems at that point. So I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 1: go that deep into it, but I think they're taking
Speaker 1: the idea of what the Other storyline into and not
Speaker 1: only enhancing out of the organic web shooters was a
Speaker 1: big change. His spider senses were escalated to the level leven.
Speaker 1: His strength was done, his webbing improved. I mean you
Speaker 1: literally see in probably one part of the chair that
Speaker 1: his webing is going to break apart swords, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be able to handle things that
Speaker 1: he was not a The webbing was strong to begin with,
Speaker 1: but because it was it wasn't it wasn't you know
Speaker 1: it was it was tech based, so it could only
Speaker 1: be so strong.
Speaker 2: And I would appreciate I would appreciate it more in
Speaker 2: a TV series. I think if he had his own
Speaker 2: web shooters, because then if you handle different villains, he
Speaker 2: could like change his web shooters around if he's going
Speaker 2: to get so dro Man and stuff like that, like
Speaker 2: you could change in Ran But when you're into movies,
Speaker 2: like that's not kind of something that you usually do,
Speaker 2: like as a storyline. So like, I'm okay with this
Speaker 2: organic shooters. I don't think you're going to touch a
Speaker 2: Spider Spider Totals with a ten foot pole after Madam Web.
Speaker 2: So I just think it'll just be like Spider metamorphosis
Speaker 2: or maybe the stress of just focusing solely on Spider
Speaker 2: Man and not on Peter parker'sodcs in this, and well, I.
Speaker 1: Think Spider Totems they you know, you don't need to
Speaker 1: introduce Madam Web necessarily need no, I just you could
Speaker 1: bring it. You could bring in Morland and the Inheritors
Speaker 1: and not have to touch on Madam Web for a little.
Speaker 2: Bit and let it breathe a little bit more. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Uh, but yeah, before we continue breaking down
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Speaker 1: All right, we're back. So, uh continuing on, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's obviously going to want to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so he's getting scanned. Now if you look
Speaker 1: at what it's going to say on the screen, superior
Speaker 1: it says enhanced human detected superior strength, superior ability, heightened senses,
Speaker 1: enhanced perception. So he's getting you know, you know, we
Speaker 1: know all this stuff, but it's interesting he's getting getting
Speaker 1: scanned like this and who could possibly be helping him out. Well,
Speaker 1: we're about to see doctor Bruce Banner. I need your help.
Speaker 1: So we knew that, uh, Mark Ruffalo is going to
Speaker 1: be the quote unquote mentor for this. Every single movie
Speaker 1: has had some sort of mentor, and he is at
Speaker 1: Bruce Banner is now a professor at a C. E.
Speaker 1: S U. Which is Empire State University, which is basically
Speaker 1: the MCU's version of n y U. Now I don't
Speaker 1: know if Peter's going to E s U. He he
Speaker 1: does in the comics is a student from E s U.
Speaker 2: He's also getting his ged at the end of Spider
Speaker 2: Man trilogy.
Speaker 1: He was, so that he could either just be wearing
Speaker 1: it to kind of pass as a student, or he
Speaker 1: could be legitimately going there. He is doctor Banner. In
Speaker 1: the background, he is teaching about Lettis's latest quantum dynamics,
Speaker 1: and while I honestly have no clue clue what that means,
Speaker 1: it definitely sounds like it connects with quant the quantum,
Speaker 1: the quantum dynamics, the quantum. Well, so now we're getting
Speaker 1: now we're getting ant Man, Now we're getting shunk Chin
Speaker 1: Legend of the Ten Rings post credit. He's also wearing
Speaker 1: something on his hand that we were kind of introduced
Speaker 1: to and she Hulk. That allows him to return to
Speaker 1: his human form and not have to worry about the Hulk.
Speaker 1: But we also have heard that this movie will witness
Speaker 1: the return of Savage Hulk.
Speaker 2: So oh yes, so something's gonna happen with that. I
Speaker 2: wonder if the hand have anything to do with it.
Speaker 2: I'm curious, and.
Speaker 1: He says, what do you say? Her name was? Now
Speaker 1: on screen, Peter Parker and Bruce Banner have never met.
Speaker 1: He Bruce Banner has met Spider Man.
Speaker 2: They were both at the funeral, but.
Speaker 1: We don't know if they ever had and you know,
Speaker 1: will and could assume they got an introduction, but we
Speaker 1: never saw Hi. Hi, I'm Peter Parker. Hi I'm Bruce Banner.
Speaker 1: We never saw that that ever happened on screen. So yes,
Speaker 1: one could yes, they're at the funeral, but nothing was
Speaker 1: ever seen on screen, So but we could say, yes
Speaker 1: they if you're introduced somethings like that, just go going
Speaker 1: onto the idea. But in comics, Hulk remembered Peter and
Speaker 1: he calls out he knows who Spider Man is as
Speaker 1: Hulks Banner. A little different. The brain the brain separation
Speaker 1: is different. Be interesting.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll call it, maybe they call it back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so senses are going haywire because now they're adding
Speaker 1: a more extreme level. He's it's going to be interesting
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 2: This spot Man. Yeah, series vibes a little bit where its.
Speaker 1: Webbed up around the room. He's getting used to his
Speaker 1: new organic webbing. He's saying, the mutation is getting enormously dangerous. Now,
Speaker 1: the question is what is pulling Peter like this? I
Speaker 1: think you yeah, I think he's facing the Hulk.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, you send him that fire?
Speaker 1: Yeah about the Grave of May.
Speaker 2: Can we pass for one second to talk about the
Speaker 2: fact that we've got to give a little bit of
Speaker 2: credit to Keith David because his voice is awesome and
Speaker 2: I love his narration about the spiders life cyclest and
Speaker 2: stuff like it.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, yeah, Spider's got three cycles. When between cycles
Speaker 1: they can leave the spider vulnerable to threats, and for
Speaker 1: those spiders who make it through, it amounts to a
Speaker 1: kind of rebirth. So this is this is Keith David.
Speaker 1: You are exactly right. We don't know if he's watching
Speaker 1: or gonna be gotting through a museum hearing about this.
Speaker 1: It could be a voice we haven't heard at. Keith
Speaker 1: David is efficient, you know, we know it's his voice.
Speaker 1: It's very distinctive. Like you said, I have a feeling
Speaker 1: he's watching something about spiders and things like that, and
Speaker 1: Keith David just happens to be also one thing in
Speaker 1: this trailer we don't see. We don't see Tombstone. This
Speaker 1: is not a trailer that introduces Tombstone at all. That's
Speaker 1: gonna definitely come with the next one.
Speaker 2: He might even get his like him for the first
Speaker 2: minute of the trailer. I doubt it, though, Spotty man.
Speaker 2: She had this spotman there.
Speaker 1: Yes, So we're gonna see in a little bit of
Speaker 1: person locked up wearing a green outfit and well French
Speaker 1: containment soon who's eager to get out those exploding all
Speaker 1: around huge reveal about to be happening. So we don't
Speaker 1: know who's so we don't know who that is. That's
Speaker 1: City Sink. Yeah, that's Sadie Sink. That's that's the first
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know, but that those those hands
Speaker 1: are very very very much female hands.
Speaker 2: Do we have confirmation of who she's playing yet? Okay,
Speaker 2: I think it was Typhoid Mary.
Speaker 1: So, but we do get him, like you know, the
Speaker 1: cops are there. He's opening up this tank and sees
Speaker 1: an old woman who's running the tank looking very confused,
Speaker 1: and something that this wishes goes over and the something
Speaker 1: takes over. This cop smiles wood wishes up. Now this
Speaker 1: is we're gonna say, Sadie Sink has been very much
Speaker 1: hinted at. She is gonna be the MC's introduction to
Speaker 1: Jean Gray. She is Jean Gray. Yes, really, it's yeah, really,
Speaker 1: that's that's the biggest that's the biggest hint. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's been the biggest talk. And I know
Speaker 1: again it could be completely off, but there's been more
Speaker 1: and more, not just because everyone's like, oh, of course
Speaker 1: she's doing Gray. She got right hair. That's not just
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff that has been hinted around.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing. Could she be dreingngaged, could be
Speaker 1: someone else, But this kind of power set, Jean has
Speaker 1: the ability to you know, take over mind. She is
Speaker 1: an Omega level mutant in the comics. She has a
Speaker 1: higher telekinetic telekinesis ability to have this. Now, why is
Speaker 1: she taking over other minds? I don't know. But there's
Speaker 1: also been the idea that Frank is also trying to
Speaker 1: protect her. That's who he's trying to go after to
Speaker 1: protect her.
Speaker 2: Okay, so these people are going after her and yeah, Frank, Okay,
Speaker 2: that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we get our first look at Tramela Tillman,
Speaker 1: who is the head of Damage Control saying we faced
Speaker 1: We're faced with the danger that we can't control, one
Speaker 1: that we can't even see. So the character that that
Speaker 1: we saw in the containment later seems to raise their arms.
Speaker 1: This is the secrets being close to the chest, but
Speaker 1: with people being controlled. The green coat, yellow hoodie feels
Speaker 1: a lot like in my think again, I think it's
Speaker 1: Jean Gray. But you know, again, it could be we
Speaker 1: could we could be missed, it could be something else.
Speaker 1: But you know, smell, we're smelling smoke now. The new
Speaker 1: of the D d E, the d O d C
Speaker 1: obviously looks like he's trying to work with Spider Man,
Speaker 1: but I don't trust him. I think he's gonna turn
Speaker 1: on him when Spider Man realizes what he's up to.
Speaker 1: That if he's trying to like trying to control and
Speaker 1: and imprison the citiesings character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think he's whatever. If Frank's against him,
Speaker 2: then yeah they're not.
Speaker 1: And we get our first look at the return of
Speaker 1: Michael Mando as Matt Gargan in his full scorpion suit.
Speaker 1: It looks pretty pretty, you know, awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I'm digging it, and I just want to
Speaker 2: see how he gets turned into scorpion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to look at that. Bam, he's
Speaker 1: it's strength saying you're losing a kid and here yep.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we get this screw. We get the shot
Speaker 1: of Spider Man and MJ on a rooftop.
Speaker 2: Looks like there's lingering with them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know. I don't know if by
Speaker 1: the end the genie is gonna get out of the
Speaker 1: bag and people are going to start, one of them
Speaker 1: being MJ's gonna be the spell is going to be broken.
Speaker 2: Well, you do know if that happens like at the
Speaker 2: very it will be at the very end, and right
Speaker 2: after she finds it or just before it will cut
Speaker 2: to like incouragents coming around, and then he just transported
Speaker 2: to whatever's going on with the Avengers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get the webbing.
Speaker 2: I love this.
Speaker 1: Amazing Fantasy fifteen cover shot. And we knew Daniel Deston
Speaker 1: had been trying to We saw in his trailers and
Speaker 1: screenshots that he was holding having comic covers, famous images
Speaker 1: of Spider Man that he wanted to get into this movie. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm with a lot of people, these aren't necesscessarily translated
Speaker 1: really well in this trailer, it looked that the the
Speaker 1: CG or at least how it's being filmed they're done,
Speaker 1: looks a little sketch. It's not crisp right now, which again,
Speaker 1: it's just the first teaser, plenty of time to hone
Speaker 1: it up. I just hope they do hone this up
Speaker 1: because it's just like, we could do better.
Speaker 2: It's gonna still be a little bit before this film
Speaker 2: is released, like July, right, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we get another screenshot and we get another
Speaker 1: you know, splash page from the comics. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: him and Taranta, and we get our first look at
Speaker 1: the hand. They're in a prison. Spider Man looks like
Speaker 1: he's channeling somebody. He's got some you know, some black
Speaker 1: eyes there. I don't know, maybe that's Siby. It comes
Speaker 1: into action in the movie. Who knows. I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2: I can see it.
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. Takes the webbing and again breaks
Speaker 1: that sword, which I don't think his webbing was there before.
Speaker 1: You know, that could do that, That could do that.
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily by that is web could have done
Speaker 1: that before. But this is a different you know, the
Speaker 1: hand is looking very different than when it when we
Speaker 1: last saw them in Daredevil, but again, the hand has
Speaker 1: had many different incarnations and didn't mean that they could
Speaker 1: be uh all right, Now we get this shot, which
Speaker 1: is a cool shot with Spider Man face down the hand,
Speaker 1: and then we.
Speaker 2: Get this all this we wants shame on me for
Speaker 2: me twice, shame on you. This is this is gonna
Speaker 2: lead back to my Factor fiction. When we get to that,
Speaker 2: I just could that.
Speaker 1: I won't even ask you at that point, but I'm
Speaker 1: along with everyone. Something is there. But the only interesting
Speaker 1: thing is maybe maybe not is I just want to
Speaker 1: kind of see how they're So everyone seems to kind
Speaker 1: of be jumping.
Speaker 2: Up though.
Speaker 1: They're all looking up. So that's my only thing that's
Speaker 1: saying that that gives me a little bit of Paul
Speaker 1: is saying, yes, that's a lot of open space here.
Speaker 1: We saw what happened in the No Way Home trailer
Speaker 1: where we eventually saw all three Spider Man were in
Speaker 1: this big old space, but there also was more hints
Speaker 1: of not everyone was going after one Spider Man. Now
Speaker 1: they could have altered this to make it do that.
Speaker 1: And then then when we see the actual cuts, these
Speaker 1: guys down here were gonna be facing someone out here.
Speaker 2: Yeah they can. They can move those Ryan a little bit,
Speaker 2: those guys. So yeah, I do think that there is
Speaker 2: someone else in this shop.
Speaker 1: They there could be, but it just seems like, at
Speaker 1: least how they're presenting here, most of them are looking
Speaker 1: up at Peter.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's them learning from last time where Lizard's
Speaker 2: head was completely off space.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Ah, house, swimmering, gift, friendly neighbor. And my thing is,
Speaker 1: what is this as someone said, this serial killer look wall,
Speaker 1: the the spider Man, uh, little spider Man hungry. There
Speaker 1: a little spider Man stalking there.
Speaker 2: And that might be what what makes us makes him
Speaker 2: linger back there too, like she's trying to figure out
Speaker 2: some feeling she has a bag spider Man.
Speaker 1: But I also am a little worried. Like I said,
Speaker 1: Peter's looking rough. I know it's hard in the sense
Speaker 1: of like not having any like losing the people you
Speaker 1: love the most at that point. But man, if he's
Speaker 1: really living down the hall from them, if he is
Speaker 1: constantly like watching for going to the place wait where
Speaker 1: Ned goes to eat, or things like that, like purposely
Speaker 1: doing this to himself, that's a certain kind of paint
Speaker 1: he's inflicting on himself. That's torture. If that that is
Speaker 1: a little torture, and I'm I'm worried for Peter at
Speaker 1: that point. You know, that's it's stalking, let alone other things.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't say it was the best case
Speaker 2: here that he's a soccer.
Speaker 1: He's a soccer. I don't think there's it's a rough
Speaker 1: go yeah so, but yeah so it's you know, that
Speaker 1: was a cool line to end. I think that was
Speaker 1: a light. That was a nice little funny tag at
Speaker 1: the end. You know MC movies always do that as
Speaker 1: people growing him. But that was I thought was good.
Speaker 1: So a couple of my final thoughts. I would just
Speaker 1: want to share it. You know, there's a lot to
Speaker 1: take in from this trailer. The main thing is Peter's
Speaker 1: no longer having a balance period. He has no balance
Speaker 1: at this point. We don't know what he's doing, like
Speaker 1: I said, for money or anything like that. But the
Speaker 1: ninety five percent, i'd say over ninety percent of his
Speaker 1: life is now a spider Man. But he's going through
Speaker 1: this metamor for this a mutation as it were. Huh
Speaker 1: uh huh, Daniel Dustin Daniel Kredan, I know I messed
Speaker 1: up his name for so my apologies, Dustin. Daniel Cretin
Speaker 1: is already showcasing his distinctive visual look, channeling what he's
Speaker 1: done throughout his filmography, doing what he did amazingly well
Speaker 1: in Chunk Chi and The Legend of the Ten Rings.
Speaker 1: The action looks great, color grading is very fitting, and
Speaker 1: the movie is taking a huge focus on how Peter's
Speaker 1: life is changing and how that begins to affect him
Speaker 1: not only mentally but also physically. So I think I
Speaker 1: think we're in for a real treat.
Speaker 2: And I echoed those sentiments. I am excited for this film, Chris,
Speaker 2: I like, I can't wait. I loved what this then
Speaker 2: did before and now him getting into spot Man ring.
Speaker 2: Even the swinging so far, I'm digging. It gives me
Speaker 2: more amazing Spider Man vibes. So I'm all here for this. Yep.
Speaker 1: So July thirty first and all premium formatch. So, so
Speaker 1: we'll probably get We'll obviously get at least one. We're
Speaker 1: going to get two more trailers. The next one is
Speaker 1: going to be the story trailer where we're going to
Speaker 1: be more likely introduced to Tombstone officially. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: I'm still fifty to fifty on Sadie. I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna see Sadie sink, but I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: gonna be supposed to be called out as Jean Gray.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see Sadie. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're gonna. I I'm a lot less likely to hear
Speaker 1: the words Geen Gray. I think that one they're gonna.
Speaker 1: I could, but again, I can see them scring this
Speaker 1: up and doing what they did in the previous Spider
Speaker 1: Man trailers and reveal the whole thing in the next one.
Speaker 2: Well, I'd be shocked if, like we get we don't
Speaker 2: see a funko pop or like the toy come out
Speaker 2: showing with her character, like I hope not, because I
Speaker 2: would hope this is the same thing as how they
Speaker 2: kept Adrian Tunes being Liz's fodder secret until the film,
Speaker 2: Like that was a lot that was better. I was
Speaker 2: afraid we're gonna reveal that in the trailers leading up
Speaker 2: to it, like like they were able to leave the
Speaker 2: Sorry the director was a fraid that and even said that,
Speaker 2: So yeah, the fact that they did this, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: As a bear's layers saying wonder if we're gonna get
Speaker 1: Peter trying to go to the X Men to get
Speaker 1: help with the metate, Well, we don't know if the
Speaker 1: X Men even exist at this point, you know, we
Speaker 1: haven't got all I don't think they do either. I
Speaker 1: think this is the beginnings of it. But I'm on
Speaker 1: board at this point. I think it's all but one step,
Speaker 1: one way for an official confirmation to say, do you
Speaker 1: think is our gene gray for the MCU, Which, again.
Speaker 2: I hope that's the case. I hope that's the case,
Speaker 2: but I'm still I'm still not certain yet. And he's
Speaker 2: going to Banner because Banner in this world is probably
Speaker 2: one of the more uh like smart people when it
Speaker 2: comes to mutations, considering heaters insult.
Speaker 1: And she could be the reason why he goes back
Speaker 1: into a savage state.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, maybe she's trying to escape too, and she
Speaker 2: uses him getting knocks that little piece off and bam.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So but all right, So that's our official trailer breakdown.
Speaker 1: So we do have one news item to kind of
Speaker 1: go into. It's a it's a lighter story. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a nothing story, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: an it's a little has some interesting parts. So uh
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Speaker 1: Let me write down this time before I forget all right,
Speaker 1: So the only news story this week is coming from
Speaker 1: looking at a kind of an interview that this is
Speaker 1: coming from the Hollywood Reporter that entitled Kevin Figi on
Speaker 1: avoiding Internet Discourse and the last time he saw Chadwick Boseman.
Speaker 1: So it's a unique peak behind the curtain. USC celebrated
Speaker 1: the dedication of the Kevin Figi Division of Film and
Speaker 1: Television Production at the USC's School of Cinematic Art. So
Speaker 1: this is a dedication at this point. But it was
Speaker 1: interesting because this panel discussion had some pretty big names.
Speaker 1: You had Kevin Figi, who you know, again is very
Speaker 1: famous for not talking to the press or doing these
Speaker 1: kind of things unless it's for a project coming out.
Speaker 1: But he's being honored at that point, so but he
Speaker 1: was joined in this discussion with Ryan Coogler, recent Oscar winner,
Speaker 1: and also Sean Levy, so all of kind of Marvel.
Speaker 1: You know, you got basically the head of Marvel Studios,
Speaker 1: You've got Brian Cougler, Black Panther director, and then you
Speaker 1: got Sean Levy from Deadpool and Wolverine. So they kind
Speaker 1: of talked about the idea of what they brought up
Speaker 1: first was the you know, looking at Internet discourse and
Speaker 1: you know, we see what James Gunn does with this
Speaker 1: in you know, threads and everything like that, debunking stuff,
Speaker 1: and so you know, the question kind of about like
Speaker 1: how do they handle this kind of thing, and so
Speaker 1: you know, Marvel's always had it back and forth with
Speaker 1: fans and and on letter pages in the back of
Speaker 1: the comics. But kem Fig said, but it can't be
Speaker 1: wielded with such force now that you have to be
Speaker 1: aware if you noted, referring to the power that sometimes
Speaker 1: dark of fandom on the Internet, the volume of what
Speaker 1: is being set online, if you focus too closely on it,
Speaker 1: it will crush you, he said, adding that there are
Speaker 1: hours and hours of theories on YouTube, hours and hours
Speaker 1: on TikTok, hours on suburn. You can read everything on
Speaker 1: everything and get a different point of view on it.
Speaker 1: You go crazy. We don't do that. Marvel finds the
Speaker 1: best way to get an early audience feedback is in
Speaker 1: the movie theater. It's test screenings. So basically, Fight is saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not James Gunn I'm not gonna address it. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna talk about it. I'm just gonna let the
Speaker 1: fans do what fans do. And I think love it
Speaker 1: or hate it. He does even more using it, saying
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let the fans be fans. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let them do what they do. I had these
Speaker 1: theories great, right or wrong. Either way, they're talking about
Speaker 1: the product. They're talking about what we're putting out. That's
Speaker 1: what I think he's kind of saying, is that's why
Speaker 1: I don't like SmackDown theories or anything like that. Must
Speaker 1: have some of our frustration. But I do understand. I
Speaker 1: do see his point.
Speaker 2: It's the valid point to have, Chris, because you waste
Speaker 2: your time if you debunk some and don't debunk others,
Speaker 2: then they think that those others are real for sure,
Speaker 2: and it's not a great use of your time as
Speaker 2: the head of a studio. Or a head like I.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do like James Gunn posting some stuff, but
Speaker 2: I do think he comments rather too much on there
Speaker 2: at times, and I think he should be focused on
Speaker 2: other things, and I think Foggy's giving a pretty good
Speaker 2: example of that. And also, you don't want to crush
Speaker 2: all the fan discourse. I found that happened a lot
Speaker 2: with the Peacemaker show that he was on. Right after
Speaker 2: every episode of Peacemaker, it was hired to come up
Speaker 2: with a lot of theories when you have him explaining
Speaker 2: the entire episode right afterwards, so you're kind of stuck there.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, I do think less is more at times
Speaker 2: for James Gonne. I think he's gonna learn that. But
Speaker 2: I do think Kevin Foggy was a little bit more
Speaker 2: front and center the first couple of years of the
Speaker 2: MCU as well, because we didn't have as many established
Speaker 2: stars that you can roll out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes on and says, it's like to us,
Speaker 1: how film students showing their films to their peers for
Speaker 1: feedback only. As Figi noted, it happens when you've already
Speaker 1: spent almost two hundred million dollars on a movie and
Speaker 1: you screen it for people and they're like, what was that?
Speaker 1: And then panic sets in Chimed and Sean Levy, you panic,
Speaker 1: you feel, you feel, you feel terrible, and then you
Speaker 1: go back to work. Figi admitted to not understanding early
Speaker 1: in his career that disappointing tests are something filmmakers deal
Speaker 1: with at every level. He said, I thought they were
Speaker 1: the only I thought we were the only morons that
Speaker 1: couldn't do it perfectly the first time and had to
Speaker 1: really work at it to make sure it's great. And
Speaker 1: turned out that Pixar would do the same thing. It
Speaker 1: turns out that the most great filmmakers. Figgy stopped short,
Speaker 1: turned to Kugler, asking was Sinners perfect from the first cut?
Speaker 1: And Cougar says no, and Chuckling adding, the most nominated
Speaker 1: film in Oscar history, I don't know if it's perfect
Speaker 1: even now.
Speaker 2: Bro perfection the proceed of perfection, yep.
Speaker 1: And so they get into There were other things, but
Speaker 1: then it came to Chadwick Boseman. Figgy and especially Kugler,
Speaker 1: has not spoken publicly much about the immediate aftermath the
Speaker 1: death of Black Panther starred Chadwick Boseman, who passed away
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty after succoming.
Speaker 2: Two years ago. Holy Yeah.
Speaker 1: But on Thursday, in front of the crowd, they opened
Speaker 1: up about those dark times. Figgi revealed that during his
Speaker 1: last in person meeting with Marvel execs, Bozeman expressed how
Speaker 1: much he was having, how much funny was having voicing
Speaker 1: the character to Challah the Black Panther in the MN
Speaker 1: show What If, and how he wanted to bring that
Speaker 1: vibe to the next Panther feature, which ultimately he never
Speaker 1: got a chance to make. The anecdote served to underscore
Speaker 1: Figy's broader point about how he took Bozeman and in
Speaker 1: fact took other colleagues in France for granted, he explained,
Speaker 1: on most movies people work very closely for a period
Speaker 1: and then may not see each other for years after
Speaker 1: the movie wraps. But with Marvel, there was always another
Speaker 1: movie to make, Another Panther, another Avengers, another Iron Man
Speaker 1: around the corner. We'll be back in there there was.
Speaker 1: That was always my expectation. So so the need to
Speaker 1: set a dinner or a lunch to say hi, I
Speaker 1: just never do because we were busy and we're going
Speaker 1: to be We're going to see each other next time.
Speaker 1: And then it hit me like a ton of bricks
Speaker 1: when I realized there wasn't gonna be a next time.
Speaker 1: That's pretty I mean again, Kevin Figgy is not the
Speaker 1: one to necessarily talk, and that's that's that is pretty
Speaker 1: impressive for him to kind of share out like that
Speaker 1: and to take that opportunity to be kind of be
Speaker 1: vulnerable like that.
Speaker 2: The most emotion that he's ever shown going to interview.
Speaker 1: Cougar meanwhile revealed that in the time after Bozman's death,
Speaker 1: Figging and Disney CEO Bob Iger flew to the actor's
Speaker 1: home in Oakland, all while COVID nineteen pandemic was still high.
Speaker 1: They came to our apartment in Lockdown and we walked
Speaker 1: around the Richmond Arena and just talked. And that was
Speaker 1: the first real check in and said. It wasn't hey,
Speaker 1: what we're going to do about the franchise, It was about, Hey,
Speaker 1: are you okay? How are you taking it? It was
Speaker 1: a real moment, and you see humility beyond the corporate
Speaker 1: things and financial responsibilities. Cougar recalled that period of profound
Speaker 1: experience and really tried to learn the lesson of not
Speaker 1: taking people for granted and not to fall into the
Speaker 1: I'll see you next time mindset. There was only one
Speaker 1: Chad bro and there was only one character that was
Speaker 1: really meant for him. And again it's a less in
Speaker 1: life you think everyone says there's you're never promised tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so you know, do whatever you need to do. But
Speaker 1: that's that's impressive, especially that you know Ryan Couger saying
Speaker 1: that they came there out of the goodness of their
Speaker 1: herd to check in on the people, including Bob Iger,
Speaker 1: which you know, they say what you want about him
Speaker 1: and not necessarily making you know, great personal things. When
Speaker 1: it comes to business, he does have those moments just
Speaker 1: like everyone like he didn't have to do that. He
Speaker 1: could have just like Kevin Viggy handle it right.
Speaker 2: You know, No, and illness and death kind of affects everybody,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how much money you have or what titles
Speaker 2: you have. Eventually that's kind of the same fate. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff does jar anyone from time to time,
Speaker 2: no matter how like even if you're the CEO of
Speaker 2: Disney Company.
Speaker 1: So but I thought it was an interesting kind of
Speaker 1: you know, you don't get Kevin Viggy out of the
Speaker 1: record or that vulnerable at that point, so just you know,
Speaker 1: a sound of an interesting you know, look back.
Speaker 2: At there, but gave me some tips or James gun too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, again there's something to be said. I don't need
Speaker 1: James going to be Keim Figuin and Kevin James Gunn
Speaker 1: just you know, some something a different perspective. So but
Speaker 1: all right, uh so let us head into factor fiction
Speaker 1: and listener questions. So all right, let me pull up again.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get factor fictions ready. Do you want to
Speaker 1: kind of read out some of the questions for this week?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got them right here. First question from David,
Speaker 2: what nickname do you see?
Speaker 1: One time listener, first time caller?
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep your chair warm here, David, what nickname do
Speaker 2: you think Frank will call spotter me in brand new Day?
Speaker 2: I was thinking of wall crawler, Yeah, insect webs webs
Speaker 2: while caller will get my vote?
Speaker 1: David, Yeah, I don't know's it's a it's a fun
Speaker 1: kind of fun kind of thing, you know.
Speaker 2: And the next one is from Anthony Dorsey, who has
Speaker 2: a bone to pick with one of the two of
Speaker 2: you not my lists, thank thankfully from last week. He
Speaker 2: says I'm a bit behind and just listened to this episode.
Speaker 2: It was such a quick lock. And I don't understand
Speaker 2: the reason to include Wanda Vision for the ten Multiverse
Speaker 2: Soka Projects to watch before Avengers Doomsday. I don't see
Speaker 2: how that show connects at all with what we know
Speaker 2: about Doomsday.
Speaker 1: I think the reason we we jumped to a quick
Speaker 1: saying yes for is because of one we don't. We
Speaker 1: don't know the status of Wanda for Doomsday. She could
Speaker 1: be and she could be not, she could be referenced
Speaker 1: in it. But I think we said yes to is
Speaker 1: was because of her her abilities to kind of break
Speaker 1: reality and what it turned into that could be the
Speaker 1: big getting some incursions because she was creating things that
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been created, and the ramifications for that. Okay, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you feel? Do you feel
Speaker 1: Wandavision's a they must see for the ten Multiverse sagas
Speaker 1: you gotta watch?
Speaker 2: No, because there's so much change in the evangelne up
Speaker 2: that I don't think it's a fun episode. But I
Speaker 2: don't think a fun show. But I don't think that
Speaker 2: would be the greatest use of time. You were just
Speaker 2: picking ten projects, I would probably pick something it's a
Speaker 2: few other things before that. Maybe it might land in
Speaker 2: the bottom of the list, but uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't say I don't say it because I would
Speaker 2: put Loki there before that, gotcha? Fair enough? All right?
Speaker 1: So fact are fiction. So this is from last week
Speaker 1: from you, and you're doing it again this week. As
Speaker 1: always a guest. There will not be another Miss Marvel
Speaker 1: eighty two percent in fact, eighteen percent in fiction. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you. That would be a fact. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: despite my love of that show. Same Number two Spider
Speaker 1: Man will have a speaking role in the next Spider
Speaker 1: Man Next to Me the next season of X Men
Speaker 1: ninety seven forty one percent in fact, fifty nine percent
Speaker 1: in fiction, and I will have to agree I do
Speaker 1: not see him having a speaking part whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, Travis, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: And number three Moonnight will not appear in Avengers Doomsday
Speaker 1: sixty eight percent in fact, thirty two percents in fiction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't see moon Night there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought so as well, so my new ones. Yes.
Speaker 2: So to lead back to the trailer shot that we had,
Speaker 2: Daredevil will appear with spot Man to fight the Hand
Speaker 2: in the trailer in shot that we got or to
Speaker 2: the to Spider Man showing up in No Way home
Speaker 2: shot not the actual trailer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we would love it. We want to see, uh,
Speaker 1: we want to see a Spider in the kitchen. At
Speaker 1: that point, there's a Spider in the ELL's kitchen. And
Speaker 1: people always go back to what happened this past uh
Speaker 1: summer with Daredevil, with Brandon Davis and saying it was
Speaker 1: really cool to see you know Daredevil. It was Spider
Speaker 1: Man and his reaction because Charlie Cox didn't realize what
Speaker 1: they were watching because he can't see it from behind
Speaker 1: the stage, and Brandon Davis was referring to the you
Speaker 1: know friendly but Spider Man, and just Charlie Cox's reaction
Speaker 1: was just like wait a minute, that's the thing, you know,
Speaker 1: like almost like oh we can talk about this now
Speaker 1: right You're thinking was something else? Is Daredevil? In Spider
Speaker 1: Man Spider Man Brand New Day. God the heart wants it.
Speaker 1: God the heart wants it so much.
Speaker 2: The showrunner or somebody associated which show was interviewed a
Speaker 2: couple of days ago and said, a couple characters are
Speaker 2: going to find their way to spoder Man from Daredevil.
Speaker 1: Ye, so I want it. I'm going to say. I
Speaker 1: want to say fact, but it's not a hard fact
Speaker 1: at that point.
Speaker 2: Choose your heart, leave with your heart. Yes. My second
Speaker 2: one is Captain America will appear in the second season
Speaker 2: of Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man.
Speaker 1: I could see that. I could. I could definitely see that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think it will be voiced
Speaker 1: by Chris Evans. I think it will be voiced by
Speaker 1: Chris heavens light. But yeah, just because we know.
Speaker 2: We got the picture of Norman with Captain America on
Speaker 2: the wall, so why not go a little bit further?
Speaker 2: And the final one leading back to the trailer, Uh,
Speaker 2: the trailer bro trailer had. It's basically the biggest maybe
Speaker 2: trailer of all time. At seven hundred and eighteen point
Speaker 2: six million views twenty four hours, it basically doubled what
Speaker 2: Diploma Wolverine did. I'm going to just call a snive
Speaker 2: spider Man brand New Day will make at least one
Speaker 2: billion dollars at the box office. It will be another
Speaker 2: billion dollars Spider Man venture. You can check mark that
Speaker 2: in my opinion and place some bits on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to go back to my beginning of
Speaker 1: the year factor fictions, because I know I had something
Speaker 1: very similar to in the sense of like what I predicted.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, Spider Man No Way Home will be
Speaker 1: branded Day brand, It's gonna beat my brandy spider Man brand.
Speaker 1: New Day is the billion dollar movie.
Speaker 2: It's what you're saying, Yes, place your bets on it.
Speaker 2: This is from the same person who two and a
Speaker 2: half years ago told you to buy WBD stock the
Speaker 2: DC Alliance listeners when it was at seven dollars. And yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, you could have held it for longer than
Speaker 2: I did and just make FOD out more four dollars
Speaker 2: a share, but you know that was besides the point.
Speaker 1: So yes, I said, only one of the MCU movies
Speaker 1: will make a billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so you know with the whole which one
Speaker 2: you're calling which one at that point?
Speaker 1: Well, it is you know, since basically no one thinks
Speaker 1: that Dune or Doomsday is moving the dates at that point,
Speaker 1: it is going to be interesting and that could make
Speaker 1: Spider Man. Spider Man being a character that is their
Speaker 1: world renowned, and.
Speaker 2: They he's more popular than the Avengers. He's more popular
Speaker 2: than the Avengers with the general audience. They'll know, Spider Man,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I could definitely sin, so I'll go fact on that one.
Speaker 1: Just you know it's it's coming at the end of
Speaker 1: the summer. I don't know. I don't know what's coming
Speaker 1: out after that that could have it because obviously it's
Speaker 1: after super Girl.
Speaker 2: So I think it's going to have the whole August
Speaker 2: to itself to just run.
Speaker 1: A wild August movie leases. Let's see, Let's see.
Speaker 2: What I'm more worried about Avengers Dooms say, becoming a
Speaker 2: cameo fist.
Speaker 1: I would worry about that. I'd worry more about I'd
Speaker 1: wore about Secret Wars becoming that.
Speaker 2: I'm just worried one of those films is going to
Speaker 2: give me crisis vibes from DCCW. Let's see what's going on?
Speaker 1: All right, So it is looking like, hmm, let's see
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six American Films twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Let you sing it all right, March.
Speaker 1: You know you wish you'd try to find something that
Speaker 1: just says twenty Okay, here we go, We'll go to that,
Speaker 1: We'll go to the devil Fruit site. Alright, rotten tomatoes.
Speaker 1: See what we got for anticipated projects of twenty twenty six, alright,
Speaker 1: so June July, alright, August we've got the Paw Patrol movie,
Speaker 1: the Dino Dino movie, so no, uh, Insidious, the Bleeding World,
Speaker 1: and Flower. Yeah, I think August is locked up.
Speaker 2: If those are oh my god, this August, Chris, there's
Speaker 2: a good chance September is locked up.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, something else I'm trying to pull.
Speaker 2: The next blockbuster that I can say is Street Fighter,
Speaker 2: maybe Lord the Social Reckoning.
Speaker 1: Alright, so so August seventh, right now, Super Troopers three,
Speaker 1: one night only untitled Disney movie, August fourteenth, Flower, Flower Vale,
Speaker 1: Street Anna Hathaway, You and McGregor. August twenty first, mutiny
Speaker 1: in Citi's The Bleeding World, thread in Citious Tail air
Speaker 1: Bud returns. All right, there's a there's your cliffhanger. So
Speaker 1: that's the that's the you know, the Nick Mey is
Speaker 1: coming out the end of August. So yeah, there is
Speaker 1: no triple a major blockbuster on that because the Odyssey
Speaker 1: comes out two weeks before. Uh, spider Man, Brand New Day.
Speaker 2: Oh spider Man Brand New Days gonna go rough shot,
Speaker 2: rough shot over August in September.
Speaker 1: Yep, So so yeah, that's I was curious to see
Speaker 1: how how much you said August is locked up like that? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, so you got them all out, yep, all right,
Speaker 1: we will post We will post those on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Let your voices be heard. So, like I said, Compo Club,
Speaker 1: we'll be back next week when we break down episode one,
Speaker 1: possibly two episodes. I'm thinking it's right now. There's some
Speaker 1: debate of whether it's gonna be one episode or two
Speaker 1: episodes coming out, but whatever it is, we're breaking down
Speaker 1: at least the first episode of Daredevilbourne against season two.
Speaker 1: There may be two episodes. We'll break them both down,
Speaker 1: but that will be kind of the the bulk of
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks for Marvel lines. We've got content,
Speaker 1: we have content, consistent faces. Sorry to see lines, So
Speaker 1: challenge you'll get yours. You've got lanterns in August.
Speaker 2: We've got to talk about green. We just we've got
Speaker 2: to talk this week the colored green and this annoying
Speaker 2: crap show that came from it. Oh my god, no
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't, don't feed into that hate.
Speaker 2: There's nothing else to talk about.
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, we've been Yeah, so's touch anyways. So yes,
Speaker 1: we will return with Compook Club Age of Old John
Speaker 1: issue number three next week. So but Travis, as always,
Speaker 1: thank you for two weeks on duty calls. David will
Speaker 1: be back next week and but yeah, so tell people
Speaker 1: how they can follow you and plug DC Alliance.
Speaker 2: You can find me in the you got on Twitter
Speaker 2: at Travis Underscore one, five six. You can drop me
Speaker 2: a long, We can chat a bit pretty much anything.
Speaker 2: Host two shows on the podcast network here, DC Alliance,
Speaker 2: where we're, like Chris alluded to, in a slow content
Speaker 2: space right now, but we have our three hundredth episode
Speaker 2: coming up where we're going to look at some old
Speaker 2: episodes and see how far DC has come. We also
Speaker 2: I also host the Animation Nation, looking at animation across multitude. Fantoms.
Speaker 2: Have done several Marvel episodes shows, but right now we're
Speaker 2: doing the Batman from two thousand and four, so be
Speaker 2: sure to check it out. Chris, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Happy birthday to you again, and what a great gift
Speaker 2: of a Spider Man trailer.
Speaker 1: Yes, I will take it at that point, but very
Speaker 1: excited as we march towards the first Marvel movie of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. So yes, so, but yes, you can
Speaker 1: follow me in all the socials at Chris Balga. You
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Speaker 1: Brave and the Boys channel for myself and Mike and
Speaker 1: my co host Jake. We break those down every month.
Speaker 1: We're getting ready to actually cross the aisle in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. We're literally in the middle of planning
Speaker 1: when we're going to go and break down the next
Speaker 1: round of DC solicits. DC is set to drop all
Speaker 1: their collected editions for the remainder of twenty twenty six
Speaker 1: into twenty twenty seven. And let's just say there, there's
Speaker 1: a couple of things I've been knowing about it in
Speaker 1: that DUC for a couple of years has not a
Speaker 1: the collective's department has not been doing well. But you know,
Speaker 1: the last couple of years they have put on a
Speaker 1: fire and there's going to be a lot of fun
Speaker 1: to be had. In fact, today the second volume of
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Speaker 2: So well, I know where some of my text return
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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, at least I.
Speaker 1: Know that like those porers, it's gonna it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know. Let me see. I'll
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Speaker 1: Post credits discussion thoughts predictions on Daredevil Born Again season
Speaker 1: two Hope dreams Fares Hope.
Speaker 2: Would be the Sea Spotter Man obviously just not happening. No,
Speaker 2: just because I made a fact for fiction about it. Listeners,
Speaker 2: that's all I want to be right with that. Way
Speaker 2: back when, I do think Kingpin is going to be
Speaker 2: behind the scenes looking like Spotted Me in the animated
Speaker 2: series Kingpin by the end of this season, and I'm
Speaker 2: hoping to see the other defenders show up to help man.
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm I'm with you on that one. I think
Speaker 1: I think Luke Cage is very much I think my
Speaker 1: dark horse hope is Colleen Wing. I've wanted her to
Speaker 1: come back, but I say it's more than likely that
Speaker 1: that Luke Cage makes his return at.
Speaker 2: That point, Do you have three of them come back
Speaker 2: and not bring back Finn Jones as Iron Fist at
Speaker 2: that point? Do you just really will you do that? Okay, Okay, yes,
Speaker 2: you do that.
Speaker 1: It's just it's I'm not saying it's right. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that I don't think anyone's gonna be I think
Speaker 1: more people will.
Speaker 2: Be.
Speaker 1: I think there'll be more episode of my Culture not
Speaker 1: coming back.
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with that. I just think it'll be
Speaker 2: odd to bring three of those back, but well, basically
Speaker 2: not just three of those back, a lot of other
Speaker 2: people from that definite universal not.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you can bring I mean they are
Speaker 1: bringing back others from a bound of talk about Defenders. Wise, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're going to leave someone out, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Iron Iron, It's gonna leave Finn Jones. I don't have
Speaker 1: any hate Gards. I'm just thinking if I think they
Speaker 1: set up a really good idea with Colin Wing Now,
Speaker 1: I was really excited for how that season ended, that
Speaker 1: final season of Iron Fish, with what they had had
Speaker 1: Finn Jones doing that got me a little more excited.
Speaker 1: But it's not to be so. No, I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: we you know, besides seeing the Defenders, I'm wanting to
Speaker 1: see another knockout, drag out fight between daredeviil Inking Pin
Speaker 1: mm hm, you know all of this season three finale.
Speaker 2: I do want what's that Holloway Fighter two as well?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Hallway Fighter two. I would like to see
Speaker 1: the you know Kingpin one. Now, Kingvin's needs to lose,
Speaker 1: and lose badly. You know, I could see the first
Speaker 1: couple of episodes being the continued like how much. He's
Speaker 1: he's you know, doing well, and people are buying into it.
Speaker 1: But then I want to see the cracks being shown
Speaker 1: in everything, kind of going downhill fast and him just
Speaker 1: trying to grasp a hold on. I don't. I'm cautious
Speaker 1: about this whole idea of like you're here and say, oh,
Speaker 1: Bull's Eye is going to be redeemed. I don't want
Speaker 1: the bulls Eye to be redeemed. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like that necessarily in principle, but I'll be wait and
Speaker 1: see exactly what do they mean by redeemed? Is this
Speaker 1: an enemy of the eye? Enemy as my friend? And
Speaker 1: then we go back to that idea. I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: One of the biggest things is the disjointedness of season one.
Speaker 1: I want a through line through season two, a more
Speaker 1: consistent now. Brandon Davis had shared that he hasn't fully
Speaker 1: finished watching UH season two, but he did say that
Speaker 1: the first episodes are a little bit more slower pace
Speaker 1: than he expected. But once they get that it it
Speaker 1: the gas starts being hit and it doesn't let go.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. Regardless. I'm looking for that consistency
Speaker 1: I want. I don't want this underground thing to be
Speaker 1: left us at the end of season two. I want
Speaker 1: the you know, Dared will be fully out there, not
Speaker 1: going to the underground at Murdock Back. You know, we
Speaker 1: know we're getting a season three. He's already in the
Speaker 1: middle of Charlie Coxs already said he's in the middle
Speaker 1: of filming it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well he was on here Kimmel, he was on
Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Kimmells that you just spent day filming.
Speaker 1: So yep, so so yeah, so but I'm excited. So
Speaker 1: we break that down either one or two episodes. We'll
Speaker 1: see exactly what they release. But we'll be back next week.
Speaker 1: Thank again, Travis, Thank you all fans. Have a great weekend,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you next week.
Speaker 2: Bye everyone.
Speaker 1: Mhm.