Speaker 1: Fade her up, creeping up on your baby. You know,
I'm gonna try to fade down.
Speaker 2: No, it just died out on his own that time,
that's all. Yeah, he does what it does, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good. It's very professional, right sure geez
you like a d J. Yeah, or a diva? Yeah
that too. All right? What do we got here? Uh?
Taking question? Yeah? Taking some questions.
Speaker 2: You know, I reached out to my peeps on social
media and I'm currently not finding any questions. Okay, question
for Mikey, what happened to the jazz bike you built?
Speaker 1: I don't know. They got recycled somewhere that yeah, So
what happened to it? I have no idea. No, I mean,
like when did it get recycled? Oh? I don't even
know if it got recycled. I think so. I'm just
saying that things probably like uh, got damaged in someone's basement. No.
Speaker 2: No, I think they stripped that thing down and built,
like you know, Peter Fonda a bike or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, it went to someone who's gonna
use it, you follow me.
Speaker 2: They did it with the Giants bike. I think they
recycled a handful of bikes like that.
Speaker 1: Well, what are you gonna do, right, what are you
gonna do? You know, motorcycles don't mean that much to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well tell me about that, because this is a
true statement from you.
Speaker 1: You know, Yes, I do like motorcycles. I think they're
really cool. And we've done a lot in this world
because of motorcycles. You know, you have to go out
and see the world and have some fun, all because
of motorcycles. Motorcycles. Yeah, but you know, motorcycles themselves, they're
not your passion, not really. You know, it's a bit
loud and dangerous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not surprised that you're saying that. I
don't think you've ever liked them. I think you like
motorcycles about as much as steel work. I know, probably
like the same kind of thing for now born into both.
I mean, you know, they're both. It's going to take
a sip, but they're both really interesting occupations. You know,
to work on motorcycles are to work on iron work
and stuff. But I never liked either one of them.
Speaker 1: Interesting people around those areas of especially growing up with
all the non union because we were not Oh yeah,
and you gotta be a little nutty to be a
nun just an iron worker when he growing up, when
we were kids, Dad had his shop down in Montgomery. Dude.
Speaker 2: It was insane, Dude, I saw things that no young
person should ever see.
Speaker 1: It was insane. Just drown They drank all day, all
day long, and they all worked.
Speaker 2: They worked all day. But you know, the bathroom like
had no door on it, you know. And as a kid,
and it was like like just concrete blocks around around
a spackle bucket. Yeah, it was a concrete box around
a spackle bucket.
Speaker 1: There was broken glass everywhere in the back. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like and it wasn't that big of a building,
you know. But that's that's really funny when I think
about it, because what a big part of my childhood
was going to work with Dad and the insanity that ensued,
you know, because this is a long time ago. This
is like his younger years when he was uh full
of full and piss of vinegar man, like full full form,
you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The wild West.
Speaker 2: It was the Wild West. And everyone loved Paul's Welding.
That's what it was called Paul's Welding. And everyone loved
it because all the kids would bring their bicycles there
to get their bikes fixed, right, weld it quickly. Yeah,
if your gate had like a broken hinge, they'd bring
it there.
Speaker 1: Dad would weld everything for everyone. You know. That's pretty nifty.
Probably kept them out of jail. Yeah, no, it I did.
But yeah, that's interesting. All right? So what are we
asking questions? Asking questions? Yeah, the short answer is that
is I don't what happened to that bike. I don't
care at all. Yeah, all right, you hear that, Martha.
It was a fun experience to build it, you know,
but it's not a good looking bike. Yeah. I like
that bike Man tail fin. I thought it was cool.
Speaker 2: It was a little it was a little clunky like that,
but but I like the wheels. I liked, you know,
that little like that jazz kind of paint theme.
Speaker 1: I thought it was sure, And I was a fan
of some of the different you know, blues artists expressed
in mural form on that bike. That's pretty cool. Hmmm.
Speaker 2: Let's see, Hey, you think Dad would ever come on
this podcast?
Speaker 1: Possible? You could ask him. I would ask him. I
don't know if he would. Do you think he would?
I think if he asked him, like in a speaker
nicely conversation on the podcast. Even if he said no,
he'd be on the podcast. Here Dad put these headphones
on this week. Paul Senior says no and hangs up.
I don't know. He might.
Speaker 2: That's funny. That would that would be it'd be interesting.
I'd like to talk to him. He's interesting guy to.
Speaker 1: Talk to, very very interesting life, very interesting life. And
I think things shake out of his mind that he
forgot about that he just remembered that he never you know,
like he hasn't told the story lunch times. You like
to hear something odd? Yeah, holy shit? Yeah what I
never heard that before? Mercenary? You killed how many people?
All right? So we got one? Here we go.
Speaker 2: We got it right here. From Sydney, Australia. Mikey, are
you ever gonna visit Sydney again on holiday?
Speaker 1: I'd love to. If you eat the ticket?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's first class, none of this you know,
back of the plane stuff.
Speaker 1: No, not for eighteen hours. Jeez. I would go back
to Australia in a heartbeat. Man. I really loved it there.
I thought the people were wonderful and wacky and everything
that you kind of come across is really exotic. Yeah. Yeah,
I like the fact that it's an English speaking country too,
because you know the communications there.
Speaker 2: I always say in Australia is a country of New Yorkers.
It just they got that kind of edginess to them there,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: But we had so much fun when we went to Australia.
Bondai Beach. Remember the Bondai cigars floating around everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bond I cigars being dirts and wash up on
the shore there longer, no, no, that used to be
the case. And when we were there, that's all we
kept talking about. Yeah, bond icigars.
Speaker 2: But I remember we we we took lessons from like
this pro surfer chick. Yeah, I forget who she was.
She she was a very good surfer. I think like
Olympic or something. I don't know if Olympic, if it's
an Olympic sport, but I think it is. Yeah, and
that was good man. But I remember the timing on
how we went out. They we we started out earlier
so that the tide would be going out. But by
time we started because people got there late, we were
learning when the tide was coming in, dude, And it
was not good. It was so hard to get out.
It was so hard to paddle out.
Speaker 1: You got up on your board, right, yeah, kind of
like for a fraction of a second. It was wicked. Man,
it's a heck of a face.
Speaker 2: Still, No, it's not like, you know, a professional surf beach,
very professional, especially if it's rough, you know.
Speaker 1: So anyways, that was a good experience, man.
Speaker 2: The Sydney Bridge, the Sydney Harbor Bridge walk, that was fun.
Speaker 1: Yep, I froze up on that. You froze up on
that ship my pants? Oh man, you shift your pants
ship bottom of my pants? You did, dude, you froze up.
You know what I remember about that?
Speaker 2: I remember we got to the top and the helicopter
came in, because right this was before drones. So a
helicopter comes flying in and there's Zach dude hanging out
of the door just with a harness one basically like
standing like sideways on the on the helicopter and just
spraying us down.
Speaker 1: I think it was Kip, was a kip. I think
Zach was gone by then.
Speaker 2: Maybe anyways, one of the camera guys was uh similar,
risking their entire life and loving everything of it.
Speaker 1: Pants, you know, and crying like a little girl. That
was good.
Speaker 2: Man, That was a really good trip. And then we
went to Man. We went everywhere. We went to Hamilton
Island in Australia. Yep, uh that was cool. I remember
these birds kept coming in the room and stealing stuff.
Take all the sugar pats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there were cockatils. Right, they're white with it, yeah,
they're right. They come in and just steal like something
out of your uh uh, you know, out of your bag. Yep. Crazy.
Speaker 2: And and the mountains there the way, Australia is such
an interesting place aesthetically. I mean there's nowhere like that
that in the whole world, you know, nowhere. And the
extreme nature of from Oolaroo, which is airs rock like
the middle of the country, which is like a thousand
degrees in the summertime and quite often covered with flies.
Speaker 1: Do you remember how many flies are there? Dude? Yeah,
they were falling on your eyeballs. Yeah, I know. Wear nets.
We had to wear hair nets or headnets. Yeah. For
how long were you there? About a week? Yeah? And
it was hot every day, dude. It was like hot
flies everywhere, hot right up through the soles of your shoes, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that was crazy. Then we went remember we
dove the Great Barrier reef. Yeah, that was sick, dude.
Giant clams and.
Speaker 1: Uh that would think about what we saw.
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing we saw when we were going down,
what we say, that big hammerhead, not a little hammerhead, dude,
like a fourteen foot long hammerhead shark. And it was
so far down all you saw was a giant silhouette
and that rope. We were going hand over hand down. Yeah,
we were going straight down towards the shark. And we're
looking at each other and looking at the dive instructor.
Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, yeah, we're like so we just
kept going down. And you know what I remember about that,
the current was so crazy that we were pretty much
like almost sideways going down the line, you know what
I mean, Like, because that current's flowing through there so fast,
you're kind of like almost just hand over hand sideways. Yeah. Weird, weird, weird,
And you remember that grouper up on the boat breathing
under the water is very weird weird than you think
it is. Yeah. Uh Moreau panicked, he bailed, he bailed. Yeah,
Dad didn't even go down right, Yeah, he was claustrophobic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we started in like this chamber before we
went down because that's like a floating barge that they
have out there.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And that part I even, honestly am I did some
scuba diving when I was in my teens, but dude,
that actually I remember feeling like, am I gonna be
able to do this?
Speaker 1: I was feeling. And then you have to adjusting to
the pressure as you go down every fathom.
Speaker 2: But once we got down, dude, and they got them ropes,
you follow, and that big clam was like, dude, that
clam was probably thirty six inches.
Speaker 1: Wide with that neon face to it, right, yep, and
blue inside. Yeah, Pa, just wave water over it and
it'll shut. Yeah, that was really neat man. Clarity was
pretty good.
Speaker 2: It was a little cloudy, but you can see, yeah,
a little murky.
Speaker 1: We're good. Yeah. I have some underwater cameras, disposable cameras
that we were using. Yeah, using down there. Did you
ever devent Oh you can't find them? Yeah, I have
a lot of that. This was before smartphones, bro, I know,
you know, I know, for smartphones have been cool to
have those photos though you know.
Speaker 2: It would someone ended up with him, not me and you.
Speaker 1: No, I think Mike wound up, you know, after moving
a bunch in the garbage. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great time. And then hanging out with
Russell Crow was fun, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: That was awesome? That was awesome, dude. Yeah, what a
great experience that was. Huh, man, come on hanging out Gladiator? Bruh?
I know. Yeah, we were watching Gladiator and his uh
in his uh guest house. In the guesthouse, we were
what was there? I was waiting form that was going
on in here. You guy's gotta leave. But I mean
he had a copy of it, and that's what I'm saying.
I don't know if he would object or maybe watch away.
Speaker 2: It was fun. He was fun to hang out with.
Remember we went out to the bar with him and stuff.
He was just down the street from his house.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Pretty cool man, good guy. Rabbit Os owns a
professional rugby team, yeah, like the oldest in the league
or something like that. And then we built two bikes
for him. That was really cool, man. Uh.
Speaker 2: Hanging out with him was fun though, even getting the
tour of his man cave and he was he kept
all those like artifacts from his show, from the movies.
Speaker 1: He's done like a different outfit.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's when I put that He let
me put that gladiator helmet on.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah yeah sick. Yeah, it wouldn't fit him, right. No,
it's funny, you know how like your head grows. Yeah, yeah,
that's funny. Yeah, that was good man. We had a
lot of fun there Australia all together.
Speaker 2: Was it was a whirlwind because you know, we never
wanted to be anywhere for too long, so we packed
everything like it. Instead of doing like an event a day,
we did three, you know, yeah, and that makes it
like a mad dash, but it was insane. We were
like tip to toe across Australia.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, that was a lot. They were like three
activities a day for two weeks and then they flew
vin out and I did another two weeks. That's right.
You guys went to h where's that something? Seventy super communities? Yeah,
it's crazy Cooper peat yeah repeat, Yeah, how was that?
It was nice? You have a bunch of crazy, wacky,
kind of squirrely people out there. Did you stay in
one of the caves there? Yeah, well you stand on
the ground that's all people live in, is that right?
Was it weird? Little cool? It's weird cool, a little
bit damp, but it is it's different. Yeah. Yeah, and
they all live in like because you wake up and
you're looking around in a cave. You know, it's like they.
Speaker 2: Got like electricity and everything in there, right, like a
regular house. Yep, toilets, every a whole nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's just a house as a cave.
The house is a cave. Interesting, and then you're not
allowed to moan mine the opal without a license, but
you can add an extension to your house and if
you happen to find opal in that process. Oh so
people have huge houses there. They just keep digging little chambers,
you know. That's funny. How'd Vin like it? Loved it? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah yeah, but you were burned by then? You were
and burnt out about it. I was done, Yeah, dude,
that's heavily Yeah right, so you were wore out in
more ways than one. I freaked out on the producer
lady one time. Really day, it's a lot.
Speaker 2: And then I remember being on the plane going back
and thinking, dang, Michael's Michael's got another week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the jet lag and everything for that
long of a trip is tough.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's hard to get it's hard to adjust to
the time change. And it's not so much that it
was like that. It was any Everything was amazing about Australia.
It was our schedule that was tough, you know what
I mean? Because I would do it again. I think
Australia is awesome and I feel like the people of
Australia have been really really avid watchers of our show.
We got some big fans there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they like us because they're crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a whole
country of New Yorkers. Yeah, yeah, that's the way I
see Australians, you know. Yeah, Mikey, what happened been to
your podcast with Al?
Speaker 1: Oh? I just got sick of myself doing a podcast.
You just sick of hearing yourself. It's sick of hearing myself.
I'm sick of myself right now my headphones and like
You're like, can you shut the hell up? I did, yeah,
you know, I just I don't know. I didn't want
to do it anymore. How was al to work with good? Yeah?
It was great. I really enjoyed working with it al
and uh and doing the show for a little while.
I really enjoyed it, and we hit a lot of
positive feedback. But like I said, I just kind of, yeah,
I ran out of stuff to say, and I felt
like I was drumming up things to say. What you right,
it was getting good, it was getting forced. Yeah, I
don't want to say anything that don't regret without meaning
it right like that at the time. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Now, you guys shot out of a studio like a
like a radio types like a shut up like a
legit studio set. Not that this is I know we were.
We were in the hood of Neuburg there. Yeah, yeah,
I know where you're talking about. Bands go to record yep. Yeah,
a lot of hip hop bands and Mexican folk music.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, neg yep. And every now and again the
studio get flooded out and stuff. Really yeah, just a
da luge coming right through the studio. Yeah, it was cool.
There are a bunch of interesting characters in there, different artists. Yeah, yeah,
that's cool. Sure, and uh yeah, like I said, it
was fun, but it's like it is a commitment to
go ahead and like you know, get to the studio
every Thursday, every every single Thursday, you know, for fifty
two thursdays or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's what I like about this setup.
It's like, you know, you're right here. That's right, I'm here.
I'm like like a like a couple of blocks from
the studio.
Speaker 1: You know, you could shuffle here drunken your slippers. That's
it pretty much, just you know, the first person who
walks to the door having to be your guest. Yeah,
that's it, Scot all right, cool man? So podcast, no,
go not happy with it? Yeah, it's not where I
want to put my time, right you tried? Yeah, yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that doesn't happen here. I'm kind of enjoying this.
But but I'm.
Speaker 1: Different. You are not really, but let's see what we got.
But yeah, I just reminded myself that I ran out
of things to say. So now it's gonna be self fulfilling.
It's a nice phone.
Speaker 2: Case, all right, I got one for you. It is nice,
isn't it. It's getting chipped up a little bit, but
I like it. It stays my phone. You know, look
look at this to look I am oh man covers
the lens pretty good. Yep, yep, mikey uh, what what
what's the one thing you regret when you were on
the show, like your time on the show.
Speaker 1: What's the one thing regret? That's easy? Man? Being a drunk? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't think I could say that more. Yeah again,
I could have been more productive. Yeah, but I mean,
you know, could have, would have should it? I guess
I go through that. You were young too, Mike was young.
You were young, early twenties, you know, full of bubble goom. Yep. Yeah, yeah,
that's a good eight year period where everybody's kind of dumb,
but then you know they get married, usually in their kids,
and have a career that straightens them out. Right. You
never came into any of that. No, That's why I'm here.
Nobody else will have me. But it's funny, but uh,
what were saying?
Speaker 2: Uh, just you were you were young, and you were
drunk and you didn't like it, and that you would
change that if you could.
Speaker 1: But I suppose yeah, yeah, then you know I probably
wouldn't the same fucking jerk off hands before you at
a man with nothing but regrets. Yeah, yeah, they were like,
what's your biggest regret, and I was trying to whittle
it down really quickly, so very quickly came down to
one thing. Yeah, you know, no, not too many regrets,
but I do kind of. I guess I do regret
that I don't know, I don't I don't sit and
have some fun. I'm sure I had the most fun. Okay,
well that's you know, that's where it's more fun than
anybody should have. Yeah, really too much fun. And I
take that into consideration. Yeah, I think I think that's
to be considered. I don't can be said for that
because people who don't have too much fun when they're
young are missing out. Yeah, or you can just be
a raging alcoholic that is never having any fun. I
mean that's worse. Well, that's where it got. That's what
happens when it when it takes getting high on the booze. Yeah,
you're not in control anymore. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's the that's that's the unfund side
of way.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's funny in your own head, you know,
and control. You're no longer at the wheel, you're in
the way back. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you think about relationships in the show? You
think it hurt or gained relationships. You think you have
better relationships because of the people you met or got
to know, as opposed to maybe it creating some static.
Speaker 1: I don't know, the relationships I had with friends before
the show never really changed, right, So that's why did
you have any experiences?
Speaker 2: Because I had a few experiences with people that were
that I was pretty close with for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Not most of them, like I got weird.
Speaker 2: Ninety percent of my peeps are good, like you know,
I got my guys. There's a couple of girls in
there like that are best friends since like kindergarten. Right,
So like there's my handful of people, but a couple
of them surprised me. Not in my core group, but
like secondary friends from when I was younger.
Speaker 1: Okay, some fringe people know they're not wrong, Okay, there was.
Speaker 2: I would say there was a period of time where
we were closer when we were younger, and then as
time went on, we parted ways and I sent some
kind of uh, I don't know, animosity or some some
kind of like weirdness.
Speaker 1: Oh have you ever gotten that from the natives? Yeah?
From the Montgomery Natives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but no one no one knowing where you were, like, dang,
I didn't think he felt that way.
Speaker 1: Occasionally, out when people are drinking, they get weird, you know, like,
I know, ye say something off color. Yeah, I've gotten that.
I don't even know you, I remember you kind of,
but and I was I've always been nice to everybody. Yeah,
so I've had I had that at Copper Fields.
Speaker 2: I won't name any names, but someone from the past
had way too much to drink and started feeling a
certain way.
Speaker 1: You know. It was anger was coming out sideway. It's
probably nothing to do with me at all, ye know, yeah, exactly,
exactly like that, you know now, yeah, yeah, exactly, Henry. Yeah,
he took my action figures. Oh man, Yeah, you know,
I have a little resentment towards a couple of kids.
He took my action figures. Really you remember Star Wars,
Remember what was it Destro not maybe not Destro, one
of those guys who you left him out in the
sun from from g I Joe Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
and then you bring him in Glow in the dark.
Oh yeah, someone snatched it. Son of a bitch?
Speaker 2: Who was it? You don't want to say any name? Yeah, man,
that could get Carl Ludlow.
Speaker 1: Isn't he like father? No, isn't like the father. Justin Tilson.
Oh it's his name, I think, Oh, no, that was
his name, but I think it was him. Uh it
was the first grade missus Brnana Witz. Oh yeah, yeah,
crying in the front of.
Speaker 2: The room because she was like, what's the commotion up here?
I love missus b Oh yeah, she was two blocks down.
I used to go there for tutoring all the time.
Speaker 1: She was tough. She was tough. Yeah, Like I remember
being in her class as well, and like if I
got something wrong on my paper, she'd hold it up
and try to like humiliate. Yeah, that was common back then.
I know what.
Speaker 2: Okay, dude, I could tell you teach your nightmares from
when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Horrible, horrible stuff. I've seen, meanness, meanness, peness. I'm telling you.
The last cigarette hit it from the lounge. They all
smelled like cigarettes, and the lounge was like right next
to the room, so they opened the door and smoke
just poured into the hallway. Yep.
Speaker 2: Like they were like they were conserving our health in
some capacity. And then you know, I'm talking like early
on third fourth grade.
Speaker 1: I think about it.
Speaker 2: My son's in fourth grade right now, in fourth grade.
I'm not going to mention his name because I kind
of liked him.
Speaker 1: He would Uh.
Speaker 2: He had this thing about when you tipped to your chairs,
and and our desk and chair were like not one unit.
They were like a chair and a desk, you know
what I mean. Okay, And so if you tip back
on your chairs, he would walk by like he wasn't
paying attention, and then he would just shove the desk
on top of a kid.
Speaker 1: Ship. Yeah wow, like aggressively. He worevet. I don't know.
I think we got to start forgiving that behavior. Oh yeah, no,
I listened all. We needed to bring it back. But
you know what, he never got in trouble for it.
Matter of fact, we need to bring that ship back. Yes,
I know. I think that's what's happening to this country. Yeah. Yeah,
these kids are just getting a little murder. We need
more more mister K. Yeah, exactly, just one of them
in each school. The enforcer. You're right with him. Damn,
mister K slams your head off like people bounce your
head right off the door, lock you in his closet.
He did didn't he Yeah, I know I wasn't. I
wasn't around things like that happened, dude. But you know what, nowadays,
obviously it wouldn't fly. But I don't know. We all
live through it, you know. Plus there's different ways to
abuse people, very much. I'll tell you that some of
the worst where the verbal abuse. Yeah. I had a
couple teachers that were very condescending.
Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, I struggled through school
like nobody you've ever met in your entire life. It
was a arduous climb from nursery school to twelfth grade,
which thank god I graduated. But I'm telling you the
first like my early years of school was like crying
every day, pretending to be sick all the time to
try and go home.
Speaker 1: I just hated school, man. I couldn't get my head
around it. You know. I was adhd up the yin
yang sure, bouncing off your chair. I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Maybe I wasn't as hyper, but I was very distracted,
hard to focus, very hard to focus.
Speaker 1: My comprehension was terrible. I wasn't a good reader.
Speaker 2: I liked science and history and stuff, but like math
and reading were my nemesis the worst.
Speaker 1: How'd you do in school? Same? Just terrible? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I hated going and everything. But my son brought his
report card home the other day. It was like all
a's except for like two b's, and he was like,
I'll do better. And I'm like, bro, do you have
any idea who your father is? That? It's a good job.
He's good now.
Speaker 2: I like that though. I think that's a good attitude.
You know, he's not beating himself up. He's just thinking
he would rather have all a's. I think that's a
great attitude. And we're not pushing him. We're pushing him
to do his work, but we're not like, hey, you
got to be an A student. If he was a
C student and he was trying as hard as he could,
I wouldn't care, sure, because I was a D student.
Speaker 1: I almost never tried. Hey, wonder how he got through, right, Yeah,
like even graduated high school. Yeah, I guess they pushed.
They pushed a lot of people through that they did. No,
I mean it took me an extra year, you know that. Okay? Yes, yeah, still.
Speaker 2: Half a year that was miserable, by the way, Ah,
it's gotta be Yeah, But I wasn't about around after
the funeral, you know, a little too long. Yeah, you
know why because for me, all my friends were my
age and older.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So when my class graduated in ninety three, I had to, like,
I didn't graduate till the next year because I had
to take some classes because my senior year, I just
didn't show up for school.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was wondering how did failed? Yeah, and I
played football the whole year. But I would like, because
I worked half a day, I didn't put you on
an academic suspension on those days, right.
Speaker 2: No, So I would work half a day and I
get Bosie credits from Bosi's Right. So I worked for
dad and got paid half a day and the other
half of the day I went to school. Quite often,
I just never went to school. So i'd work, or
i'd work and then just go. What were you doing
driving around?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Driving around with girls?
Speaker 2: And I was partying hard man. I was partying like
a high school kid, you know, probably a little harder actually.
Speaker 1: And I played football.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was athletic and everything, but I partied
equally as much as I you know, loved football.
Speaker 1: Sure, you're hanging out with the guys with the mohawks
and the rat tails too. Yeah. I had a real
eclectic mix of friends. Man.
Speaker 2: I was like a jock who liked to party. So
I had like party friends and jock friends.
Speaker 1: And you know, can't beat it, can't beat it. Man.
Speaker 2: I had a good life. Good life growing up was fun.
I think Montgomery was a great place. Valley Central was
a great school.
Speaker 1: It was nice right close enough to the city, yeah,
close enough to the mountains, a little mayberry ish, I think,
don't you think. Yeah, it's popularity. I mean, uh a
population now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's crazy. All our trails everywhere, we
rode bikes and quads and everything out there, all neighborhoods now.
Speaker 1: Sad. Oh, I don't care.
Speaker 2: Is this what you're talking about? With podcasting? You start
talking about things that just kind of, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: Just come out of your mouth. Yeah, extream of conscious.
Maybe I should read more questions. Yeah, it's another we'll
give us fresh direction on something. Yeah. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So one person asked Mike, what was the craziest thing
you ever saw in all the years of American Chopper.
Speaker 1: I don't know what refresh my memory here, because it's
like I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what, you know, like I could, I could,
you know, think of some of the you know, the
years of breaking down doors and you know, stuff like that.
Remember when we had those guys from my name is
earl On. Yes, remember we all hatcheted the doors. They
were they were passed out because they were like jet lagged.
They just came back from somewhere. They just got in, right.
And who was that Brandon Lee? No, Jimmy Lee. Brandon
Lee was Bruce Lee.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm talking about. Remember I told you
I talked sometimes. Yeah, because that's like a real little
fucking like an old man fart. Yeah, well in the
brain there you know that.
Speaker 2: And I got to redact something from our our podcast
from the other day. Your information was wrong, My information
was wrong, David Bowie. It wasn't Eric Clapton's dad. It
was Peter Frampton's dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't we got to get that figured
out because that was pretty terrible.
Speaker 2: Actually, I mean I thought I've sounded so smart, you know. Yeah,
Peter Clapton, Yeah, Peter Frampton, Eric Eric Frampton, Peter Clapton.
Speaker 1: Anyway, crazy ever happened at the shop? Yeah, maybe you
can answer this and not gonna laugh. I mean, I
don't know, I've seen like somebody's crazy nothing, you know.
I mean, you know, like when I think of crazy stuff,
I think of things like all these great scenes from
the show where we're like shooting paintballs off the roof
at people. Nobody does that at work.
Speaker 2: That's like a crazy thing we would.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, forget about it. Remember when we were lighting
up Cody was running down a railroad track.
Speaker 2: That's fun stuff. Or we did we jump a bike
off the roof. Yeah, we jumped the bike off, remember.
Speaker 1: With a slingshot of some kind of right propelled yes,
mechanism that just sent it off the roof.
Speaker 2: And I remember Dad jumped his hummer and like smashed
that thing like nose down.
Speaker 1: Yep, went up, and then it was like a brunt
blast coming down, even though the frame and everything could
take it. You wondered, like, you know, oh, no, he
broke all kinds of He broke all kinds of stuff
with that thing. That was done. Yeah, yeah, major repairs. Yeah.
Even the other day when we're talking with Ricky when
it was time to knock down like to redo the office.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just got in his get drove right through it,
backing up going. Rick said he was the craziest thing
he ever saw. Yeah, He's like, dude, I got it.
Was like the first day I was there and I'm like,
I don't understand. I'm just here to build bikes. Meanwhile,
we're like, bam.
Speaker 1: I think we all enjoy the idea, like you know,
brute force things. Yeah, just a brick through the windshield,
you know, like destruction. Destruction Yeah, that comes from dad. Dude. Yeah,
like going buy an abandoned facility and there's still glass
in the windows.
Speaker 2: You have to absolutely, Yeah, that's kind of our I
think that's our trigger, that's our You're like, that's the
kind of thing we like, you know, if we could
smash it or destroy it or drop it or explode it.
Explosions are good too, and fire works great great. You
know melting things, you know, burning bees, things of that nature.
Speaker 1: You know, well the bees, you know you can't talk
about that anymore, damn. Yeah. Yeah. Back then people love
that stuff because everybody hates when they.
Speaker 2: Were defending a dog. We were defending a dog. So
defending a dog, you know what I'm saying. Tomato, Tomato,
I lost my spot. Oh oh, smashing things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, there's something really exciting about
it though it is. It's it's like you're either excite
or to be unsettling for you, like if you lead
a very peaceful life. And that's that's why I think settled. Yes, yeah,
it's a little more civilized way. He had never seen
anything like that. Yeah, it's all we've ever seen. This
is crazy and he got used to it right away.
But you know, like that's all we've ever seen. Yeah, craziness,
just destroying things. Yeah, and we always had ginger friends,
You and I different friends that were ginger. They're always crazy,
crazy crazy, Yeah, loser about that.
Speaker 2: Those people who have certain characteristics esthetically like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Gingers are I think genuinely insane, hyperactive,
Like they're the craziest people I have ever met. Some
not so much, you know, they go against the rule.
But yeah, a lot of Gingers are nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah they are, man. Yeah, yeah, I don't going on there.
You might have to cut this out, but it's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be call him. In Australia b Louise
bluisuis yeah, bluish. They have a lot of reverse nicknames.
Speaker 2: It's interesting too, because Adam Moyer was our producer. He
was a ginger, but he was more chill.
Speaker 1: Let's go to a photo of Adam. Now. Yes, he
had a good temperament. Yeah, he hadn't even killed temperament. Yeah,
he was good. He was good. Yeah, he's the exception. Moyer.
Speaker 2: He was around a long time man. He was you
know how many producers we went through, dude dozens through
the years because the show was on for so long. Yeah,
we were intolerable, intolerable. We were really running everything, weren't
we top the bottom?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, especially with Dad, because you know Dad was
like experience. You know, the guy in that position usually
like like a moral morally loose to say the least,
to say the least, so not completely sold, sold to
the devil kind of thing. Right, So when you went
on off on him and you didn't feel entirely bad,
he felt like when they had to go, he didn't
feel entirely bad. We never missed any perfect, perfect coworker
not to miss.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who I miss, man, I'll tell you
who I missed. Producer wise, see Russell Mooth.
Speaker 1: He was wonderful.
Speaker 2: He was the one who kicked us off. He was
like our first like first season producer.
Speaker 1: Well he had some balls, he did. Yeah, he would
actually get fire man. He was hyper, dude. He was
a ginger. I think he was a ginger. You know,
it was one of them ginger. Yeah, he could be
brownish ginger. Yeah, but he was a ginger when he
was a kid. You bet no.
Speaker 2: His personality was ginger. Was on fire all the time,
fired up.
Speaker 1: He would be physical with us, like yeah, but he
was a little guy. He was a little guy. He
had to try. He had to try. He did. He
had to try to give.
Speaker 2: He would try and get like between me and dad
or him, and he would get in arguments with dad
and be.
Speaker 1: Dude, try and stand his ground. He had to.
Speaker 2: We need you know what's so funny, We needed that
guy to be our producer our first season.
Speaker 1: No one would have survived. I think he probably should
have been our producer for the rest of the asshole,
I know, I know, but you know what he wanted
to go through kind of like weak. You know.
Speaker 2: I think he's done a lot since then. He's in
a much more successful position. He's a good producer.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what it was about him. He got
it done and he was able to handle our insanity.
First of all, we had no experience with television, and
we were Neanderthals in the.
Speaker 1: Truest sense of the word. Sure we still are.
Speaker 2: And so anytime they sent us someone from LA who
is like, you know that kind of guy, you know,
like getting manicures done and stuff.
Speaker 1: That guy couldn't even he couldn't even stay get out,
get out that, I would say, beat it, Hey, come
come get this guy. I'm telling you right now, I'm
not going to work with him. Come get him. Just
by the way he looked. Dad would shoot him out
of the shop. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't handle it, he was right though they
were not They couldn't be around us.
Speaker 1: It was not going to ever work out. Not good. Yeah,
it's still I mean, you know, I still can't stand
to be around a producer. Yeah, they're they're they're like that.
You're right. Uh, you know who I found to be
really good? You never speak straight, you know. The only
one that Dave, Remember we had that guy, Dave. Dave
was a good dude.
Speaker 2: He was fighting for us because it was weird during
Senior versus Junior, because there was a lot of strange
stuff going on behind the scenes because it was one
production company and all the tapes would get sent down
to occ before they got shipped out. Okay, and you know,
we were trying to be kind of coy about what
projects we were working.
Speaker 1: It's possible, production it is impossible. I think I was naive.
I think I was naive too. You don't have a border, Well, no, No.
Speaker 2: What I think happened is some stuff got showed. A
lot of stuff got showed down there. Okay, Now it
didn't just didn't go to post.
Speaker 1: You lost you know what I mean. If you wanted
to know what was happening at the shop, A good
way would be to watch the tapes from that day.
That's all I'm saying. So they wouldn't they wouldn't get
overnight and they get next day. I don't know, some ship.
I get it. It is what it is. It is
what it is. I mean, if you think the point
I brought up there was like that, it was the
whole thing was somewhat absurd. Ye all together? What do
you mean, the whole entire experience. Yeah, the show, the
network company, the behavior involved.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but dude, I think that's all a part
for the course. I think it's like to your point, it's, well,
it's not just that that industry breeds that. You know,
those kind of producers that are like that, and you
know production companies that are really good at what they do.
But maybe you know they're heavy handed at times, right,
I mean, this is a lot.
Speaker 1: Of pressure, right loose. I guess yeah, they do gotta.
They gotta kind of pull the the choker on you
every now and yeah, I mean get you back in line.
Speaker 2: Yes, or right in their own way, like sometimes in
its savagely insane way, yes, right, sure, screaming calls.
Speaker 1: Ye. And you know networks are funny, like it would
be like we'd have like a rating slump right in
the middle of like our season and it and we
were up against football most of the time, Monday night football.
Speaker 2: So that's a tough spot to be able to compete in.
And we competed very strongly for all of our years,
and there would be like some weird anomaly in the
numbers and you'd get a call in blind panic, we're wow,
the show start wend. Yeah, right, anything like this is
you got to step in today. Yeah, And then the
next week.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's it's the end of the world. Yeah,
the end of the world.
Speaker 2: We're canceling the show, and the next week the Raidings
would be back and you get a quick call that goes,
hey raiders, look.
Speaker 1: Good, give good work. See later. Are you guys coming
over to the Yeah, you're gonna come to the ad
sales love to have you there. Yeah. We can't pay anything, yeah,
pay for airfare.
Speaker 2: No, that was part of our deal ad sales. But
they don't even do those anymore. They don't even do
ad sales.
Speaker 1: You probably don't.
Speaker 2: They don't have those things like that anymore.
Speaker 1: Those are weird. They were like a like a weird
like like all the people in the audience are are
from different to major corporations, right yep, thinking about buying
ad sales for that corporation. And then they parade all
the that's right.
Speaker 2: They talent, the talent like what we got basically here
put this suit on.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I thought it always reminded me like
a high school performance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it kind of was. They did put on
a whole I remember when they brought h D in.
We went up and announced, you know, high.
Speaker 1: Def television because we'd predate that by quite a few years.
But yeah, that was kind of interesting, man, the whole thing,
the upfronts, and you know, I think, honestly, if I
have to look at it now, ah man, I think
these some of these uh these cable channels and some
of these networks are have like ad sales. The way
people are spending marketing dollars is very like thinned out
now because there's so many different uh I got areas
of content sure diversified. Instead of like ten different things
like billboards and TV and radio, now it's like fifty different, yeah,
networks and platforms.
Speaker 2: And I think it's really hard to get people's attention anymore.
I think, like you said, there's so many, there's so
many platforms out there, so it's very yeah, what what
would you say?
Speaker 1: Uh? I do think like it is it's hard to
it's hard to focus a large group, it is.
Speaker 2: And like even like what we're doing here, like a podcast,
it's hard to like make a noise in this sea
of noise.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's big time. How many podcasts are there? Oh?
Now a zillion? Right, yeah, and everyone's doing them.
Speaker 2: They're not all good, they're not all as good as
this one's. You know what I'm saying, And they don't
have a set like this. It's very listen if I
can't carry something, it's really nice.
Speaker 1: Light out it does right, Yeah, yeah, I think it
beats the piss out of LEDs Oh definitely, yeah, in
the big time way. Yeah. Yeah, you heard that. You
heard the podcast with Mark, didn't you? No? Oh, the
Neon guy. You didn't hear that one? Oh you? Oh no,
you came after. It's so funny you say that.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what we were talking about, how Neon has
soul and LED lights are flat.
Speaker 1: Not only that, Neon lights all the way around Neon
don't pulsate either. It does slow it down. I mean,
you know, it's not that I have anything against the
lights that you brought in here to film the show,
because they're essential and they're very easy to set up,
and they're really efficient and they work really well. Yeah,
I'm just saying as far as like sitting in your
living room like a regular Edison bulb, Yeah yeah, something
about LED. Yeah, yes, weird light from that perspective, I agree.
You know, all right, Nate, what do you got? Man?
Come on fire? A good come on, Nasty Nate. What's
your last name? Naughty Jungle of Love.
Speaker 2: Stuart, Nasty Nate Stewart. Man, geez, he sounds like a
NASCAR driver.
Speaker 1: Nasty Nate Stewart. I was thinking like a X comments
works as a bouncer at a strip joint. Yeah, with
a little tear drop tattooed down his eye. Yeah, definitely
a couple of kills. Well, what about being with Paul?
You know, like it was good working with Paul? Was
working at your shop was pretty cool? Mom? Mom worked
there for him. Well, that was nice. Huh, that was
very nice.
Speaker 2: It was for years, and she was so good at
taking care of all the charity stuff, like anyone who
needed like donations or letter or something signed, she handled
all that for us. And everybody got their everything, and
she was great working at the receptionist.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a good environment my shop. It
was a very healthy environment.
Speaker 2: I will say that, and I know that coming from
the steel business and then the occ days were not
a healthy environment for me, even though it was fun
and we did great things, but it just to me
it was not healthy. And coming out of that, I
think I thought our group was really good, Like everyone
very much got along Brendan, Vin, Cody right, ye yourself,
Rachel Mom. It was like a nice synergy, you know,
it was and you never felt a lot of anngst.
There was a lot of pressure at times, but it
was always very amicable. Everybody got along for the most part,
and it was like it felt like a nice atmosphere.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was proud of that about that aspect of what
senior versus junior, you know, when we parted ways and uh,
you know after that one year and non compete, we
started building bikes and you know, just we had a
great team, just a great team, you know, pushing, pushing
the envelope of creativity.
Speaker 1: That was fantastic.
Speaker 2: We had just the right amount of equipment, the water jets,
see and C machine. Vin was fantastic with the C
and C machine. Brendan was just an all round fantastic fabricator.
And then you know Cody did everything. Cody was like good,
did it all assembly, random water jet, fantastic welder, sure, fantastic, fantastic,
fan freak showtastic. No, seriously, we had such a good team, man.
Speaker 1: It was it was nice. It was nice building those
early bikes. Yeah, it was nice. You know, an artistic freedom. Yep, right,
I think I was painting at the time. Yep. Nice.
I don't know how to elaborate. That's fine. Paul was
growing up, Yeah, Mike, don't hold back. I think was
I What kind of big brother was I? Growing up?
Your big brother? Bigger? Your older brothers are always so
much older, bigger? Yeah, when you're growing up? Yeah, but
did I beat you up a lot? I don't think
any more than any other brother, right to know.
Speaker 2: I felt like that happened occasionally. I would stop you
guys out on occasion. Yeah, you know, I would go
into like a rageful anger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just beat the shit out. Yeah, I might have
blocked out. I'm only two years older than Dan and
four years older than you. You know, well that's quite
a bit. I thought you probably needed your ass whipped
more off. Maybe so, man, maybe you didn't do it enough.
Speaker 2: No, Mike was such a good kid growing up, man,
very unassuming, uh not great with your Your appetite was
very I don't know. I think you ate cereal and
like pasta for the first thirteen years of your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you didn't meat? No, that was yeah, well
it was what it was. You know. Yeah, Yeah, I
don't know. May it wasn't naturally vegetarian. Maybe I should
go vegetarian. Yeah, it seems boring, seems real boring. I mean,
I like vegetarian. But what'd you.
Speaker 2: Think about our upbringing on an overall basis? No, I'm
not asking for anything deep. Like I've been thinking about
this recently, I'm more and more fond of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. Yeah, when you're a little younger, you're
kind of like got a chip on your shoulder towards
your parents. I think you're right. You know, when when
you're young, when it's going on because you're being disciplined
and making you do things you don't want to do,
and then for your for your own good, and then
later on into your twenties, you're like, I'll show them
and everything. Yeah, and the world humbles you a little
bit and beats you up, and then you realize that
like parents did the best they could or they tried right,
and even if they fucked up, you know, like everybody
fuck up. Yeah, of course, Well the most part we
had love, and I think that's a big deal. It
is a big deal. I think you're right. I do
think it wins out because I remember being like an
angry teenager, you know, how dare you, especially with dad
drinking and everything. Yeah, and it's because that was a
big problem.
Speaker 2: But now when I look back at it, I never
think about that. I only think about the good stuff.
I really don't. It's not like I dwell on that.
And overall it was a good life.
Speaker 1: Man. We lived on Chandler Lane, We played in the cornfield,
we built forts, we walked in the trails, we played
football and backyards. Ye, nobody does that anymore. Not mud puddles, Yeah, yeah,
weird stuff. Climb trees, build a tree for it, build
a ground for it. We'd go sleigh riding and then
try to like hit people with the sleagh. Yeah, try
and take them out. Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore. Nope.
Speaker 2: I mean used to have like ten twelve kids in
the front yard at the house on any given Saturday,
all sizes, all doing all.
Speaker 1: Kinds of just one throwing the smallest one around, that's right,
midget tossing. I remember dog fights. Oh yeah, the dogs
fought all the time, like, not on purpose, not like
people had money on it, but they would gather around
just the same. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, Jason, our great Dane would fight the Saint Bernard
that was right behind us. And those were bloody battles. Man,
that's insane, those bloody battles. Those are huge dogs, huge dogs. Yeah,
either one of them were right in the head. No,
Dad had dog issues, he did. Yeah, Like Jason was
a terrible dog.
Speaker 1: What was up with him?
Speaker 2: Just there was so much dysfunction at the time. I
think he was just probably used. Yeah, and I think
he had a screw loose and he bit every all
my friends, and he bid all the neighbors dogs and
it was like, you know, I was a pariah because.
Speaker 1: Of that dog. Couldn't I would like Lataki's.
Speaker 2: Dog would trot into the yard and mister Lataki would
come out with a shovel trying to, you know, keep
the dog away. The dog was aggressive, you know, and
that's a big, scary aggressive dog.
Speaker 1: A Great Dane.
Speaker 2: They're usually not like that. Most Great Danes are very docile.
But I think, you know, that dog was in the
steel shop for like all the insanity.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, people just even just the sounds and
nice I think so. I think it might have like
mess with his nerves or something, you know, all right, Well,
what do you think, Nate? Everyone wants to know about
your painting. I don't know if you guys got into that.
I don't even paint anymore. No, you don't.
Speaker 2: But people think of you as an artist, Michael, and
you have let them down with your lack of painting.
Speaker 1: Damn you. I have like ten of your paintings. You
do like to see them? I have them right downstairs
and the house. Yeah, yep. I bought them all in
the auction on television, remember that. Yeah, and the proceeds
went to the juvenile diabetes. Yes, and I bought them all, dude,
I was outbidden everybody. Yeah you did. Yeah, some of
those I paid like ten thousand dollars for really yeah,
the most ever painting for it was like twelve hundred
and fifty dollars. That's pretty good. It was very good.
But I was going to talk the guy out of
it because like, what the Yeah, you're like waiting mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool, So talk to me about painting.
Speaker 1: Painting. First of all, let's go back forget about it.
We know you don't do it anymore, but wait, I
don't do it, but it was good when you started.
It's good you enjoyed it. I loved it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See it's an outlet for a time period. It was
like a season, I guess, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 1: I think it helped influence how I uh, you know,
hang a frame while filming Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It
was like a stepping stone. It's a stepping stone.
Speaker 2: That's it, man, That's all life is. But you know,
it's funny because the show causes people to see you
in a picture of time because of that aspect of
your life.
Speaker 1: So that becomes a question that everyone does he still
have the galleries, he's still doing the artwork, And I'm like, no, nope,
short answer. But I I stopped painting. Yeah, I just
did three three years of painting. I think it was therapeutic.
And then I just didn't want to do it anymore.
And I've I picked it up a bunch of times since,
like here and there, you know, once every year or whatever,
and it doesn't catch.
Speaker 2: Really, It just you don't know, you lost the love
and feeling. Yeah, yeah, that happens sometimes.
Speaker 1: Man. It's like a hobby. Yeah, I don't Yeah, I
don't think it was like a passion so much as
it was a cathartic thing. To do that I needed
to do for an extent to make any money with it.
Really not really not really. You know, once you have
an art you know, the gallery overhead, Yeah yeah, all that,
you know, and you're trying to feature local artists that
have a lot of merit and yeah, nobody a lot
of merit, no money, yeah, yeah, they're they're there for
the free figs. Yep. Yeah, not much of a business man. Yeah,
it's all right, you know. Yeah, but you know, like
those things are pretty good because your failures kind of
helped mold where you're where you don't want to be,
you know, where you're certain you don't want to be. Yeah,
and that helps you kind.
Speaker 2: Of and to your point, when you think about the
past and you reflect positively on it, that's you know,
that stuff that was adverse kind of makes you who
you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably more so than the good times, almost, right,
I think so, because the good times kind of real smooth,
yeah right, but the bad times they leave dinks, they
leaves through the eyebrow or whatever it is, you know
what I mean. More personality, I think it does. It
builds you up and makes you more mature. It makes
you appreciate the past more. Yep, it does because you're like,
dang man, maybe it wasn't that bad, you know, yeah, yeah,
because say things are they run hot in your mind?
Yeah yeah, ex lovers and whatnot. What. Well, you know,
I'm just like, you don't have accurate memories when it
comes to, you know, something you're extremely passionate about. Oh yeah,
yeah right, I'm not asking any bring up any like
you were going to bring some up. Oh no, I
swore I wouldn't. Yeah, you made promises, huh I did. Cool?
Speaker 2: Man, Well, I like this podcast. I think it's fun.
I like doing this. It's pretty chill. I'm looking forward
to having some different guests.
Speaker 1: Any suggestions, I mean then, and Cody will probably come
on eventually.
Speaker 2: Maybe what Jason Poole would probably be good, you think, sure? Yeah,
I think Jason would be good. He's hyperactive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's nuts. Yeah, he's I don't know if he's
still nutty because sometimes I've worked with him. He's done
some machining and stuff. We've done some work together.
Speaker 2: And to be honest with you, dude, I really enjoyed
just conversations with him.
Speaker 1: Sure, just like he's like, yeah, just fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like back then, we had a lot
of fun together, me and him, We go hunting, we'd
like we do everything. Yea, this was before too much
responsibility was in play.
Speaker 1: You know, well, you're gonna you're gonna have them on
like and then folding people from different walks of life. Yeah,
I think so you're sticking with motor here. No, okay, cool,
definitely not. I mean I don't care. Interesting, Yeah, I
don't care. If you're an iron worker, you're saving the wells,
I'm gonna do it all.
Speaker 2: I do think people want to hear like these conversations.
I think, you know, the Rick one is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Even theon it ties into a like a pre set
in audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested in a lot. I'm interested in all
kinds of stuff, you know what I mean. So I'm
just gonna stick with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have like a like a seal expert one week
and then like exactly, it's beIN amatographer the next.
Speaker 2: And I would love to get like a Special Forces
guy in here that you know, has a good story
to tell. That's a really good idea, because that would
mix it up a little bit. And I think when
people come in here and they see the studio. They're
right away thinking this is legit. You know, so we
set the we set the tone right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't think it would be
impossible for you to find someone like that either. No,
you know, Special Forces is rare, but not that rare. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I also think that with all the tribute stuff
we did through the years with the military, I feel
like the military.
Speaker 1: And US are pretty tight. I mean a lot of
people who were deployed overseas for years and years would
watch the show out there. I hear it all the time.
People give them a little bit of a comfort of home. Yeah,
a little bit of Americana overseas, you know. Sure, And
I think that I think that ties us in really
tight with the military, first responders, police, you know, you
name it, anyone who's doing any kind of service out there.
Is anythink you can take care of this ticket? I
got on the way down. No did you? Oh I
was going to say yes that I didn't like the show. Okay,
I forgot about me, But no, I hear you there.
We get a lot of support from them. Yeah, yeah,
you should have them on. Maybe even like the police
chief New York City or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could talk to I could probably have like
the head of the New Jersey State Police on.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, the number two guy has a house
on the island. Just have him. Yeah, Kill Commons, I
should have him on. That's his name. Yeah, it was
an Irish name, I believe, so, Kill Commons. Great name.
I've never heard that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm saying it right. I'm probably ninety
percent on the pronunciation of it. But anyways, I do.
I work with Troopers United, and they are you know,
they raise money for the Troopers and they're fantastic organization,
all state Troopers. Their headquarters is over there in it's
now where it's Trenton. Oh yeah, and it's been there
very historically.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: New Jersey State Troopers are super interesting because their proximity
to New York City, uh makes this a hot bed
for terrorism, New Jersey in particular. So, yeah, they have
almost like a militant police force, and they have so
many different special units.
Speaker 1: Because of a rough reputation at all.
Speaker 2: No, but even the way they're set up is military.
The way they're the way their whole system works is
more along the way they're the hierarchy of how they're
established is based in like more of a military background.
Speaker 1: So they're serious cats. You know, they're tight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they wear their hats, they're at a certain
angle and they're high and tight.
Speaker 1: That's right. They don't.
Speaker 2: They have a certain level of you know, they have
to look a certain way, they have to act a
certain way. And to me, they do a really great job,
these guys, they really do.
Speaker 1: You know. Plus they won't give me tickets. Harding job.
That's a real hard they see the worst ship they do.
And you know, when you.
Speaker 2: Think about it, like man, like the past four the
past four years has been tough for cops, you know,
especially like right out of uh, right out of.
Speaker 1: Because of iteled horrible, horrible human being.
Speaker 2: And then they also had to start to worry about
terrible you know, getting sued personally. They start, you know,
so that who wants for what they get paid. You know,
there's a lot of risks obviously on these roads. You
got to pull cars over. That's always dangerous. Then you
never know who you're pulling over and what they have
in the car, right sure, and so that's a real concern.
And then you always have to address the problems. No
one else wants to deal with, right, they call you.
Oh yeah, horrible domestic ship Yeah, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I give these guys a lot of credit me
to have even local part time cops them, not all
of them.
Speaker 2: I know these guys here in the Islands ship bottom
credit I get by Chris about the ship bottom guys.
Speaker 1: You should be talking about the Montgomery guys. No, they're
not really so bad anymore. I don't even know. I
don't really, I don't really pay Yeah, back in the
back of the pull over and harasspect cops, oh very much. So. Yeah,
they'd be like I remember them being kind of coked up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, in Montgomery, we had some shady stuff going on,
real big time, real weird stuff, weird shit, real weird stuff,
we weird kids. We were like in our teens, and
these cops had it out for us. Man, they knew
us by name.
Speaker 1: I would circumvent our own hometown. Yes, and yeah, I'm
telling you they were. They would bust your chops so bad.
It was different. But you got to remember they mostly
have like cameras and stuff now, so everything's there's there's
accountability now. Back then it was a while West, you know. Yeah,
everybody has a body cam or a car came they
don't they know.
Speaker 2: You have a phone. You don't know where you are
on anybody, and you record what's happening. So every I
think people are real sensitive to the fact that their
misbehaviors may be found out through technology and whatever capacity,
whether it's one of these cameras or a phone. So
I think everyone's on their best behavior and they're mostly
good cops. But back then, do they weren't good guys
and they were like local part timers, so they had
like vendettas against people locally, like outside of being a cop,
you know what I mean. I think that's it's small
town typical stuff.
Speaker 1: Sure, and they'd go outside the bounds and like, you
know how you're supposed to behave as.
Speaker 2: A Yeah, I mean, nobody was getting their heads cracked open,
but tickets were being handed out.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of more in the way of corruption.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they didn't like the way you looked, they
pulled you over put it that way, yep, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but I love those days when you could blow
up a mail bolloween and not go to jail. Halloween, Oh,
Halloween was crazy. Yeah, that was insane.
Speaker 1: It was like a ryot who was a riot. Yeah,
it was like eggs shaving cream and like they would
you know you. It was that way after break Glass
everywhere everywhere it was crazy, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to have Halloweens and Viking Heights that
was like.
Speaker 1: Like shake the cop car. The cop wouldn't even get out,
wouldn't even get out, smashing bottles on the windows. It
was like it was like a revolt, like a prison riot.
It was. I saw it in the sixth grade. I
think after that they kind of cleaned it up. Then
they had a curfew that year after and the cops
were everywhere and they couldn't get out of the car.
Speaker 2: It was like the kids took over the development completely
one hundred percent. They were getting ready to send in
the National Guard that night.
Speaker 1: I remember glass Gatory bottle boom smashing the people, throwing
all kinds of eggs, shaving cream, like canisters when they
were empty, just bouncing them off the cop cars. It was.
It was a crazy thing, man. Yeah. Yeah, they couldn't
get out and went to open the door and it
was like they were like just got back in the car,
drove away. That's amazing, because that'd be like something out
of a movie. But that's actually the way.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you Quill's house. Quills are our cousins,
lived right in the middle of Viking Heights, right. You
remember how many eggs Shawn he used to get, used
to throw the house over the house so they go out.
Speaker 1: We used to go out on the roof and just
anyone who walked by was like, we would throw a
thousand eggs. More like you're in the and all you
need to do is hear people coming, and you wouldn't
even be seen because you'd be on the other side
of the roof just like them, and you'd hear like splat, splat,
and then you wouldn't hear a splat and you'd hear
we did that.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of stuff we did growing up, Like
on a Saturday. It wasn't that was chaos that one
Halloween you're talking about. But we would throw stuff at
cars when we were kids, not anything huge, but we
would like we'd shoot like corn kernels and stuff. We
climb up in the trees and we get like straws
and we'd like shoot a corn kernel, you know, and
be like like that.
Speaker 1: The cars would be like some dude would get out
start running. We did a lot of that, man, a
lot of like ring and run out running people bigger
than you, outrunning the old people. Holy ship, and that's
like it was excitement though. Sure, sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: We would go with like ten guys. We'd go to
the neighbor's house. They knew who we were, they just
couldn't find any of us at the time. We'd go
in there like eight thirty at nine, boom boom, hit
the door five times as hard you can. They're like
watching Archie Bunker in the living room, you know, and.
Speaker 1: We're just scattering to come out, all you cats, you know,
cursing up a storm, all pissed off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had fun, man, that was That was like
Chandler Lane right there.
Speaker 1: Man, that was like a day in the life. Yeah.
It was insane. Yeah. And the dog's room freely.
Speaker 2: Dog's room freely and bit kids at well everybody, that's
right man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. Some kids got humped too. They playing football
and giant dog comes over and you couldn't get up. Yeah, crazy, gosh, damn.
That was like right America. That was America, Come on, yeah,
frozen in the middle of the street for hours by
a dog, you know. Yeah, or a turtle. Remember them.
Turtles used to come up from the pond.
Speaker 2: They were like a lot of snappers, giant snapping turtles
would come up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We'd let them bite sticks and give them a
hat to chew on. Yeah. And then we had a
a tractor tire that was a sandbox and lots of snakes,
lots of snakes. To catch snakes. I used to catch
snakes two handfuls at a time. Yeah, I remember you
putting them down in your shirt, tucking your shirt. I
was like a snake whisper. Hey. Can I tell you
the most disturbing thing I ever did. I was walking
home from the takes and there was all these snakes
sonning on Bosh's yard right and there was a hole
in the ground from an old fence post, and I
went to go grab one of the snakes, and then
all of a sudden I saw them all and they
all went down in the hole. So I just put
my whole arm all the way down in that fence post,
like to my shoulder, and just pulled out a handful
of snakes. Dude, there had to be thirty snakes in
my hand land noodling. That's insane, right, they're biting me
all over. I didn't really care. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: And then I bring him home and put him in
that that big tire in the backyard, to sandbox tire.
Speaker 1: That was nice, Yeah, it was. They got to play
with him. Yeah, then you get out, but be able
to play with some snakes for a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The worst part about them snakes and guarters. They poop
all over you when you catch them.
Speaker 1: Sure, and that sandbox stinks too, It's like a pissy smell.
All the local cats used to ship in the sandbox. Yes,
that's true. I think you made me eat one. I think, Chris,
I think, yeah, yeah ship.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about talking about him because he was
such a bully when we were kids.
Speaker 1: Man, bully. He's a nice guy now he's like a pastor. Yeah,
like it was a rotten kid.
Speaker 2: He was a bad egg man. He picked on me,
picked up. He really picked on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He always made fun of you in all kinds of ways.
And you were much younger than him because he was
two years older than me, so he was like he
was you were six years younger than him. So you know,
you were like a big target and I was smaller
than him, so he was like like he was very
you know, bullyish.
Speaker 1: Brother John used to beat him up occasionally. Yeah, maybe
that just trickled down. Yeah maybe, But John seemed like
a really nice guy. John's a nice guy. I mean
he always was time Like nobody, you know, nobody could
be No. John was miles man. He might have beat
up his brother like nightly. Yeah sure, yeah, just grabbed
by the hair and started pumbling him. Yeah, exactly, jeez.
Things we talk about, yeah, was all right, Yeah I
should I'm gonna have like I could have like Mark
probably Mark Devitt down the cue. All these guys, all
my friends are irish. You should have all your friends
and talk about like you know, falling into lakes, oh
almost dying, yeah, doing the backstroke drunk. But those guys
are very interesting, and I suggest that you have those
guys on with like a glass of scotch. Yeah, baby,
you know we would have like the whole conversation starts
to melt, and you guys are just like a couple
of drunks yelling over each other. So I just we
had I had them up.
Speaker 2: I had my guys up three or four months ago
and uh man, dude, we just hung out right at
the beach house for the whole weekend.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: It was nothing but laughing and having fun. It was
like the best time every just laughing about the past,
telling stories, like there's no one else like that in
my life. As far as like a group of guys
where everybody's that tight, you know, we just have such
a it's such a comfortable, easy environment that, you know,
we have a couple of drinks.
Speaker 1: Certain friends you can't make more of, No, certain types of.
Speaker 2: Now you can't get super Yeah, especially at fifty, I
was looking at something.
Speaker 1: This is a little depressing, but like you just don't
have enough time in life either. You know, forty years
you don't and now it's two thirds of your life
is gone, right, So you're like, you'd have to meet
someone today and live to ninety. That's right, and it's possible,
but I don't anticipate it. I'm not looking for Yeah,
all right, Mikey Tuttle, I appreciate you doing this again. Yeah, man,
I like our banter where's the where's the weed? Of
course you guys said, all.
Speaker 2: Right, we're taking a weed here yeah, it's said in
the email.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on free weed I get here. There's great,
there's microphones but no. Yeah, it was good being on
the show here, Baul. Yeah, thanks for coming out. We
have a nice show. You're nice set up and you
got Nasty Nate there behind the nasty date Stuart. Baby. Yeah,
lucky number thirteen in the night, number thirteen car. Yeah,
you know, racing for Home Depot. Yeah, Nate Stuart finishing
it twenty three this week. Yes, yeah, moving up in
the ranks. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who's he raced for? Oh, home Depot. That's like that's
like his main sponsor.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we like job lots, you know. I'm rear
bomber corner, corner panel, yep, something like that. Yep. Nasty
Nate Stewart wins another race, you know what I mean? Yeah,
coming around, come around to to co. Nasty Nate Stewart.
Speaker 2: Nasty Nate Stewart, come around the corner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the turn free in the pity always gets
out of the car he starts doing. Yeah, yeah, give
me here, baby, that's right, all right, sorry first your last, Nate,
hell second's third? All right? Anyways, that was a good one.
This is pretty good. Man that was good. Here comes
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You can sing aqualong with that. You know the party,
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