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Speaker 1: Fade her up, creeping up on your baby. You know,

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I'm gonna try to fade down.

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Speaker 2: No, it just died out on his own that time,

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that's all. Yeah, he does what it does, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good. It's very professional, right sure geez

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you like a d J. Yeah, or a diva? Yeah

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that too. All right? What do we got here? Uh?

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Taking question? Yeah? Taking some questions.

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Speaker 2: You know, I reached out to my peeps on social

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media and I'm currently not finding any questions. Okay, question

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for Mikey, what happened to the jazz bike you built?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They got recycled somewhere that yeah, So

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what happened to it? I have no idea. No, I mean,

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like when did it get recycled? Oh? I don't even

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know if it got recycled. I think so. I'm just

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saying that things probably like uh, got damaged in someone's basement. No.

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Speaker 2: No, I think they stripped that thing down and built,

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like you know, Peter Fonda a bike or something like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, it went to someone who's gonna

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use it, you follow me.

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Speaker 2: They did it with the Giants bike. I think they

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recycled a handful of bikes like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, what are you gonna do, right, what are you

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gonna do? You know, motorcycles don't mean that much to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well tell me about that, because this is a

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true statement from you.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yes, I do like motorcycles. I think they're

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really cool. And we've done a lot in this world

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because of motorcycles. You know, you have to go out

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and see the world and have some fun, all because

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of motorcycles. Motorcycles. Yeah, but you know, motorcycles themselves, they're

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not your passion, not really. You know, it's a bit

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loud and dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not surprised that you're saying that. I

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don't think you've ever liked them. I think you like

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motorcycles about as much as steel work. I know, probably

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like the same kind of thing for now born into both.

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I mean, you know, they're both. It's going to take

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a sip, but they're both really interesting occupations. You know,

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to work on motorcycles are to work on iron work

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and stuff. But I never liked either one of them.

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Speaker 1: Interesting people around those areas of especially growing up with

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all the non union because we were not Oh yeah,

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and you gotta be a little nutty to be a

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nun just an iron worker when he growing up, when

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we were kids, Dad had his shop down in Montgomery. Dude.

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Speaker 2: It was insane, Dude, I saw things that no young

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person should ever see.

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Speaker 1: It was insane. Just drown They drank all day, all

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day long, and they all worked.

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had no door on it, you know. And as a kid,

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and it was like like just concrete blocks around around

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a spackle bucket. Yeah, it was a concrete box around

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a spackle bucket.

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Speaker 1: There was broken glass everywhere in the back. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like and it wasn't that big of a building,

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you know. But that's that's really funny when I think

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about it, because what a big part of my childhood

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was going to work with Dad and the insanity that ensued,

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you know, because this is a long time ago. This

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is like his younger years when he was uh full

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of full and piss of vinegar man, like full full form,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The wild West.

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Speaker 2: It was the Wild West. And everyone loved Paul's Welding.

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That's what it was called Paul's Welding. And everyone loved

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it because all the kids would bring their bicycles there

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to get their bikes fixed, right, weld it quickly. Yeah,

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if your gate had like a broken hinge, they'd bring

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Speaker 1: Dad would weld everything for everyone. You know. That's pretty nifty.

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Probably kept them out of jail. Yeah, no, it I did.

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But yeah, that's interesting. All right? So what are we

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asking questions? Asking questions? Yeah, the short answer is that

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is I don't what happened to that bike. I don't

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care at all. Yeah, all right, you hear that, Martha.

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but it's not a good looking bike. Yeah. I like

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that bike Man tail fin. I thought it was cool.

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but but I like the wheels. I liked, you know,

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that little like that jazz kind of paint theme.

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of some of the different you know, blues artists expressed

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in mural form on that bike. That's pretty cool. Hmmm.

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this podcast?

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don't know if he would. Do you think he would?

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nicely conversation on the podcast. Even if he said no,

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he'd be on the podcast. Here Dad put these headphones

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on this week. Paul Senior says no and hangs up.

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I don't know. He might.

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Speaker 2: That's funny. That would that would be it'd be interesting.

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I'd like to talk to him. He's interesting guy to.

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Speaker 1: Talk to, very very interesting life, very interesting life. And

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I think things shake out of his mind that he

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forgot about that he just remembered that he never you know,

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like he hasn't told the story lunch times. You like

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to hear something odd? Yeah, holy shit? Yeah what I

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never heard that before? Mercenary? You killed how many people?

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All right? So we got one? Here we go.

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Speaker 2: We got it right here. From Sydney, Australia. Mikey, are

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you ever gonna visit Sydney again on holiday?

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Speaker 1: I'd love to. If you eat the ticket?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's first class, none of this you know,

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back of the plane stuff.

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Speaker 1: No, not for eighteen hours. Jeez. I would go back

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to Australia in a heartbeat. Man. I really loved it there.

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I thought the people were wonderful and wacky and everything

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that you kind of come across is really exotic. Yeah. Yeah,

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I like the fact that it's an English speaking country too,

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because you know the communications there.

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Speaker 2: I always say in Australia is a country of New Yorkers.

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you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But we had so much fun when we went to Australia.

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Bondai Beach. Remember the Bondai cigars floating around everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bond I cigars being dirts and wash up on

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the shore there longer, no, no, that used to be

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the case. And when we were there, that's all we

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kept talking about. Yeah, bond icigars.

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Speaker 2: But I remember we we we took lessons from like

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this pro surfer chick. Yeah, I forget who she was.

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Olympic or something. I don't know if Olympic, if it's

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an Olympic sport, but I think it is. Yeah, and

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that was good man. But I remember the timing on

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how we went out. They we we started out earlier

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so that the tide would be going out. But by

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time we started because people got there late, we were

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learning when the tide was coming in, dude, And it

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was not good. It was so hard to get out.

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like for a fraction of a second. It was wicked. Man,

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it's a heck of a face.

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very professional, especially if it's rough, you know.

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Speaker 1: So anyways, that was a good experience, man.

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Speaker 2: The Sydney Bridge, the Sydney Harbor Bridge walk, that was fun.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I froze up on that. You froze up on

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that ship my pants? Oh man, you shift your pants

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ship bottom of my pants? You did, dude, you froze up.

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Speaker 2: I remember we got to the top and the helicopter

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came in, because right this was before drones. So a

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helicopter comes flying in and there's Zach dude hanging out

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of the door just with a harness one basically like

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standing like sideways on the on the helicopter and just

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spraying us down.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Kip, was a kip. I think

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Speaker 2: Maybe anyways, one of the camera guys was uh similar,

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risking their entire life and loving everything of it.

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Speaker 1: Pants, you know, and crying like a little girl. That

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was good.

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Speaker 2: Man, That was a really good trip. And then we

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went to Man. We went everywhere. We went to Hamilton

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Island in Australia. Yep, uh that was cool. I remember

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these birds kept coming in the room and stealing stuff.

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Take all the sugar pats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there were cockatils. Right, they're white with it, yeah,

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they're right. They come in and just steal like something

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out of your uh uh, you know, out of your bag. Yep. Crazy.

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Speaker 2: And and the mountains there the way, Australia is such

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an interesting place aesthetically. I mean there's nowhere like that

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extreme nature of from Oolaroo, which is airs rock like

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the middle of the country, which is like a thousand

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degrees in the summertime and quite often covered with flies.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember how many flies are there? Dude? Yeah,

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they were falling on your eyeballs. Yeah, I know. Wear nets.

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it was hot every day, dude. It was like hot

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flies everywhere, hot right up through the soles of your shoes, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that was crazy. Then we went remember we

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dove the Great Barrier reef. Yeah, that was sick, dude.

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Giant clams and.

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what we say, that big hammerhead, not a little hammerhead, dude,

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like a fourteen foot long hammerhead shark. And it was

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so far down all you saw was a giant silhouette

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we were going straight down towards the shark. And we're

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looking at each other and looking at the dive instructor.

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Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, yeah, we're like so we just

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you're kind of like almost just hand over hand sideways. Yeah. Weird, weird, weird,

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it is. Yeah. Uh Moreau panicked, he bailed, he bailed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we started in like this chamber before we

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went down because that's like a floating barge that they

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And that part I even, honestly am I did some

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scuba diving when I was in my teens, but dude,

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that actually I remember feeling like, am I gonna be

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able to do this?

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Speaker 1: I was feeling. And then you have to adjusting to

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the pressure as you go down every fathom.

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Speaker 2: But once we got down, dude, and they got them ropes,

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you follow, and that big clam was like, dude, that

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Speaker 1: Wide with that neon face to it, right, yep, and

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blue inside. Yeah, Pa, just wave water over it and

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it'll shut. Yeah, that was really neat man. Clarity was

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pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It was a little cloudy, but you can see, yeah,

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a little murky.

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Speaker 1: We're good. Yeah. I have some underwater cameras, disposable cameras

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that we were using. Yeah, using down there. Did you

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ever devent Oh you can't find them? Yeah, I have

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a lot of that. This was before smartphones, bro, I know,

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you know, I know, for smartphones have been cool to

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have those photos though you know.

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Speaker 2: It would someone ended up with him, not me and you.

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Speaker 1: No, I think Mike wound up, you know, after moving

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a bunch in the garbage. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great time. And then hanging out with

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Russell Crow was fun, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome? That was awesome, dude. Yeah, what a

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great experience that was. Huh, man, come on hanging out Gladiator? Bruh?

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I know. Yeah, we were watching Gladiator and his uh

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in his uh guest house. In the guesthouse, we were

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what was there? I was waiting form that was going

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on in here. You guy's gotta leave. But I mean

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he had a copy of it, and that's what I'm saying.

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I don't know if he would object or maybe watch away.

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Speaker 2: It was fun. He was fun to hang out with.

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Remember we went out to the bar with him and stuff.

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He was just down the street from his house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Pretty cool man, good guy. Rabbit Os owns a

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professional rugby team, yeah, like the oldest in the league

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or something like that. And then we built two bikes

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for him. That was really cool, man. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Hanging out with him was fun though, even getting the

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tour of his man cave and he was he kept

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all those like artifacts from his show, from the movies.

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Speaker 1: He's done like a different outfit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's when I put that He let

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me put that gladiator helmet on.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah yeah sick. Yeah, it wouldn't fit him, right. No,

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it's funny, you know how like your head grows. Yeah, yeah,

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that's funny. Yeah, that was good man. We had a

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lot of fun there Australia all together.

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Speaker 2: Was it was a whirlwind because you know, we never

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wanted to be anywhere for too long, so we packed

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everything like it. Instead of doing like an event a day,

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we did three, you know, yeah, and that makes it

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like a mad dash, but it was insane. We were

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like tip to toe across Australia.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, that was a lot. They were like three

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activities a day for two weeks and then they flew

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vin out and I did another two weeks. That's right.

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You guys went to h where's that something? Seventy super communities? Yeah,

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it's crazy Cooper peat yeah repeat, Yeah, how was that?

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It was nice? You have a bunch of crazy, wacky,

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kind of squirrely people out there. Did you stay in

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one of the caves there? Yeah, well you stand on

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the ground that's all people live in, is that right?

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Was it weird? Little cool? It's weird cool, a little

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bit damp, but it is it's different. Yeah. Yeah, and

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they all live in like because you wake up and

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you're looking around in a cave. You know, it's like they.

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Speaker 2: Got like electricity and everything in there, right, like a

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regular house. Yep, toilets, every a whole nine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's just a house as a cave.

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The house is a cave. Interesting, and then you're not

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allowed to moan mine the opal without a license, but

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you can add an extension to your house and if

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you happen to find opal in that process. Oh so

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people have huge houses there. They just keep digging little chambers,

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you know. That's funny. How'd Vin like it? Loved it? Yeah? Yeah,

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yeah yeah, but you were burned by then? You were

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and burnt out about it. I was done, Yeah, dude,

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that's heavily Yeah right, so you were wore out in

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more ways than one. I freaked out on the producer

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lady one time. Really day, it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: And then I remember being on the plane going back

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and thinking, dang, Michael's Michael's got another week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the jet lag and everything for that

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long of a trip is tough.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's hard to get it's hard to adjust to

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the time change. And it's not so much that it

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was like that. It was any Everything was amazing about Australia.

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It was our schedule that was tough, you know what

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I mean? Because I would do it again. I think

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Australia is awesome and I feel like the people of

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Australia have been really really avid watchers of our show.

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We got some big fans there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they like us because they're crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's a whole

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country of New Yorkers. Yeah, yeah, that's the way I

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see Australians, you know. Yeah, Mikey, what happened been to

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your podcast with Al?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I just got sick of myself doing a podcast.

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You just sick of hearing yourself. It's sick of hearing myself.

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I'm sick of myself right now my headphones and like

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You're like, can you shut the hell up? I did, yeah,

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you know, I just I don't know. I didn't want

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to do it anymore. How was al to work with good? Yeah?

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It was great. I really enjoyed working with it al

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and uh and doing the show for a little while.

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I really enjoyed it, and we hit a lot of

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positive feedback. But like I said, I just kind of, yeah,

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I ran out of stuff to say, and I felt

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like I was drumming up things to say. What you right,

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it was getting good, it was getting forced. Yeah, I

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don't want to say anything that don't regret without meaning

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it right like that at the time. Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Now, you guys shot out of a studio like a

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like a radio types like a shut up like a

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legit studio set. Not that this is I know we were.

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We were in the hood of Neuburg there. Yeah, yeah,

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I know where you're talking about. Bands go to record yep. Yeah,

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a lot of hip hop bands and Mexican folk music.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, neg yep. And every now and again the

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studio get flooded out and stuff. Really yeah, just a

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da luge coming right through the studio. Yeah, it was cool.

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There are a bunch of interesting characters in there, different artists. Yeah, yeah,

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that's cool. Sure, and uh yeah, like I said, it

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was fun, but it's like it is a commitment to

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go ahead and like you know, get to the studio

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every Thursday, every every single Thursday, you know, for fifty

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two thursdays or whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what That's what I like about this setup.

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It's like, you know, you're right here. That's right, I'm here.

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I'm like like a like a couple of blocks from

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the studio.

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Speaker 1: You know, you could shuffle here drunken your slippers. That's

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it pretty much, just you know, the first person who

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walks to the door having to be your guest. Yeah,

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that's it, Scot all right, cool man? So podcast, no,

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go not happy with it? Yeah, it's not where I

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want to put my time, right you tried? Yeah, yeah,

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I get it.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that doesn't happen here. I'm kind of enjoying this.

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But but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Different. You are not really, but let's see what we got.

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But yeah, I just reminded myself that I ran out

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of things to say. So now it's gonna be self fulfilling.

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It's a nice phone.

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Speaker 2: Case, all right, I got one for you. It is nice,

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isn't it. It's getting chipped up a little bit, but

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I like it. It stays my phone. You know, look

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look at this to look I am oh man covers

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the lens pretty good. Yep, yep, mikey uh, what what

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what's the one thing you regret when you were on

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the show, like your time on the show.

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Speaker 1: What's the one thing regret? That's easy? Man? Being a drunk? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I don't think I could say that more. Yeah again,

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I could have been more productive. Yeah, but I mean,

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you know, could have, would have should it? I guess

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I go through that. You were young too, Mike was young.

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You were young, early twenties, you know, full of bubble goom. Yep. Yeah, yeah,

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that's a good eight year period where everybody's kind of dumb,

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but then you know they get married, usually in their kids,

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and have a career that straightens them out. Right. You

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never came into any of that. No, That's why I'm here.

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Nobody else will have me. But it's funny, but uh,

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what were saying?

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Speaker 2: Uh, just you were you were young, and you were

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drunk and you didn't like it, and that you would

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change that if you could.

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Speaker 1: But I suppose yeah, yeah, then you know I probably

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wouldn't the same fucking jerk off hands before you at

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a man with nothing but regrets. Yeah, yeah, they were like,

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what's your biggest regret, and I was trying to whittle

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it down really quickly, so very quickly came down to

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one thing. Yeah, you know, no, not too many regrets,

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but I do kind of. I guess I do regret

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that I don't know, I don't I don't sit and

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have some fun. I'm sure I had the most fun. Okay,

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well that's you know, that's where it's more fun than

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anybody should have. Yeah, really too much fun. And I

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take that into consideration. Yeah, I think I think that's

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to be considered. I don't can be said for that

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because people who don't have too much fun when they're

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young are missing out. Yeah, or you can just be

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a raging alcoholic that is never having any fun. I

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mean that's worse. Well, that's where it got. That's what

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happens when it when it takes getting high on the booze. Yeah,

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you're not in control anymore. No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's the that's that's the unfund side

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of way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's funny in your own head, you know,

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and control. You're no longer at the wheel, you're in

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the way back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about relationships in the show? You

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think it hurt or gained relationships. You think you have

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better relationships because of the people you met or got

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to know, as opposed to maybe it creating some static.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, the relationships I had with friends before

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the show never really changed, right, So that's why did

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you have any experiences?

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Speaker 2: Because I had a few experiences with people that were

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that I was pretty close with for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: Not most of them, like I got weird.

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Speaker 2: Ninety percent of my peeps are good, like you know,

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I got my guys. There's a couple of girls in

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there like that are best friends since like kindergarten. Right,

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So like there's my handful of people, but a couple

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of them surprised me. Not in my core group, but

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like secondary friends from when I was younger.

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Speaker 1: Okay, some fringe people know they're not wrong, Okay, there was.

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Speaker 2: I would say there was a period of time where

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we were closer when we were younger, and then as

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time went on, we parted ways and I sent some

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kind of uh, I don't know, animosity or some some

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kind of like weirdness.

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Speaker 1: Oh have you ever gotten that from the natives? Yeah?

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From the Montgomery Natives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but no one no one knowing where you were, like, dang,

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I didn't think he felt that way.

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Speaker 1: Occasionally, out when people are drinking, they get weird, you know, like,

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I know, ye say something off color. Yeah, I've gotten that.

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I don't even know you, I remember you kind of,

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but and I was I've always been nice to everybody. Yeah,

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so I've had I had that at Copper Fields.

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Speaker 2: I won't name any names, but someone from the past

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had way too much to drink and started feeling a

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certain way.

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Speaker 1: You know. It was anger was coming out sideway. It's

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probably nothing to do with me at all, ye know, yeah, exactly,

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exactly like that, you know now, yeah, yeah, exactly, Henry. Yeah,

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he took my action figures. Oh man, Yeah, you know,

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I have a little resentment towards a couple of kids.

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He took my action figures. Really you remember Star Wars,

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Remember what was it Destro not maybe not Destro, one

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of those guys who you left him out in the

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sun from from g I Joe Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

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and then you bring him in Glow in the dark.

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Oh yeah, someone snatched it. Son of a bitch?

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Speaker 2: Who was it? You don't want to say any name? Yeah, man,

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that could get Carl Ludlow.

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Speaker 1: Isn't he like father? No, isn't like the father. Justin Tilson.

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Oh it's his name, I think, Oh, no, that was

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his name, but I think it was him. Uh it

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was the first grade missus Brnana Witz. Oh yeah, yeah,

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crying in the front of.

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Speaker 2: The room because she was like, what's the commotion up here?

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I love missus b Oh yeah, she was two blocks down.

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I used to go there for tutoring all the time.

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Speaker 1: She was tough. She was tough. Yeah, Like I remember

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being in her class as well, and like if I

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got something wrong on my paper, she'd hold it up

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and try to like humiliate. Yeah, that was common back then.

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I know what.

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Speaker 2: Okay, dude, I could tell you teach your nightmares from

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when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: Horrible, horrible stuff. I've seen, meanness, meanness, peness. I'm telling you.

463
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,359
The last cigarette hit it from the lounge. They all

464
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,480
smelled like cigarettes, and the lounge was like right next

465
00:24:23,519 --> 00:24:25,559
to the room, so they opened the door and smoke

466
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,359
just poured into the hallway. Yep.

467
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: Like they were like they were conserving our health in

468
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:35,039
some capacity. And then you know, I'm talking like early

469
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,559
on third fourth grade.

470
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,559
Speaker 1: I think about it.

471
00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:40,319
Speaker 2: My son's in fourth grade right now, in fourth grade.

472
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,079
I'm not going to mention his name because I kind

473
00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:42,559
of liked him.

474
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: He would Uh.

475
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: He had this thing about when you tipped to your chairs,

476
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,119
and and our desk and chair were like not one unit.

477
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,880
They were like a chair and a desk, you know

478
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,559
what I mean. Okay, And so if you tip back

479
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,599
on your chairs, he would walk by like he wasn't

480
00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:59,319
paying attention, and then he would just shove the desk

481
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:01,079
on top of a kid.

482
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: Ship. Yeah wow, like aggressively. He worevet. I don't know.

483
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,359
I think we got to start forgiving that behavior. Oh yeah, no,

484
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,359
I listened all. We needed to bring it back. But

485
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,079
you know what, he never got in trouble for it.

486
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,400
Matter of fact, we need to bring that ship back. Yes,

487
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,559
I know. I think that's what's happening to this country. Yeah. Yeah,

488
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:22,519
these kids are just getting a little murder. We need

489
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:27,680
more more mister K. Yeah, exactly, just one of them

490
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,200
in each school. The enforcer. You're right with him. Damn,

491
00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:35,839
mister K slams your head off like people bounce your

492
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:39,799
head right off the door, lock you in his closet.

493
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,200
He did didn't he Yeah, I know I wasn't. I

494
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,799
wasn't around things like that happened, dude. But you know what, nowadays,

495
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,119
obviously it wouldn't fly. But I don't know. We all

496
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,720
live through it, you know. Plus there's different ways to

497
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:58,039
abuse people, very much. I'll tell you that some of

498
00:25:58,079 --> 00:26:01,119
the worst where the verbal abuse. Yeah. I had a

499
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,720
couple teachers that were very condescending.

500
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, I struggled through school

501
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,559
like nobody you've ever met in your entire life. It

502
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,519
was a arduous climb from nursery school to twelfth grade,

503
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:19,759
which thank god I graduated. But I'm telling you the

504
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:24,960
first like my early years of school was like crying

505
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,720
every day, pretending to be sick all the time to

506
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:28,680
try and go home.

507
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,799
Speaker 1: I just hated school, man. I couldn't get my head

508
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:34,519
around it. You know. I was adhd up the yin

509
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:38,079
yang sure, bouncing off your chair. I mean, I don't think.

510
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 2: Maybe I wasn't as hyper, but I was very distracted,

511
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,119
hard to focus, very hard to focus.

512
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,799
Speaker 1: My comprehension was terrible. I wasn't a good reader.

513
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: I liked science and history and stuff, but like math

514
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:56,119
and reading were my nemesis the worst.

515
00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: How'd you do in school? Same? Just terrible? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

516
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,720
I hated going and everything. But my son brought his

517
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,200
report card home the other day. It was like all

518
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,200
a's except for like two b's, and he was like,

519
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:12,240
I'll do better. And I'm like, bro, do you have

520
00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:17,559
any idea who your father is? That? It's a good job.

521
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,759
He's good now.

522
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,799
Speaker 2: I like that though. I think that's a good attitude.

523
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,519
You know, he's not beating himself up. He's just thinking

524
00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:26,680
he would rather have all a's. I think that's a

525
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,000
great attitude. And we're not pushing him. We're pushing him

526
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000
to do his work, but we're not like, hey, you

527
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:33,640
got to be an A student. If he was a

528
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,920
C student and he was trying as hard as he could,

529
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,480
I wouldn't care, sure, because I was a D student.

530
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: I almost never tried. Hey, wonder how he got through, right, Yeah,

531
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:46,319
like even graduated high school. Yeah, I guess they pushed.

532
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:48,200
They pushed a lot of people through that they did. No,

533
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:53,119
I mean it took me an extra year, you know that. Okay? Yes, yeah, still.

534
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: Half a year that was miserable, by the way, Ah,

535
00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,359
it's gotta be Yeah, But I wasn't about around after

536
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,640
the funeral, you know, a little too long. Yeah, you

537
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359
know why because for me, all my friends were my

538
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,359
age and older.

539
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:06,079
Speaker 1: Yep.

540
00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: So when my class graduated in ninety three, I had to, like,

541
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,400
I didn't graduate till the next year because I had

542
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,480
to take some classes because my senior year, I just

543
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:15,599
didn't show up for school.

544
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I was wondering how did failed? Yeah, and I

545
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,920
played football the whole year. But I would like, because

546
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,480
I worked half a day, I didn't put you on

547
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,799
an academic suspension on those days, right.

548
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: No, So I would work half a day and I

549
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,559
get Bosie credits from Bosi's Right. So I worked for

550
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,279
dad and got paid half a day and the other

551
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:33,279
half of the day I went to school. Quite often,

552
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,279
I just never went to school. So i'd work, or

553
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,400
i'd work and then just go. What were you doing

554
00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:40,119
driving around?

555
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? Driving around with girls?

556
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: And I was partying hard man. I was partying like

557
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,519
a high school kid, you know, probably a little harder actually.

558
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: And I played football.

559
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I was athletic and everything, but I partied

560
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,680
equally as much as I you know, loved football.

561
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: Sure, you're hanging out with the guys with the mohawks

562
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720
and the rat tails too. Yeah. I had a real

563
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:00,279
eclectic mix of friends. Man.

564
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:02,799
Speaker 2: I was like a jock who liked to party. So

565
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,599
I had like party friends and jock friends.

566
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,839
Speaker 1: And you know, can't beat it, can't beat it. Man.

567
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: I had a good life. Good life growing up was fun.

568
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,119
I think Montgomery was a great place. Valley Central was

569
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:13,920
a great school.

570
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: It was nice right close enough to the city, yeah,

571
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,759
close enough to the mountains, a little mayberry ish, I think,

572
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:26,319
don't you think. Yeah, it's popularity. I mean, uh a

573
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:27,960
population now.

574
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's crazy. All our trails everywhere, we

575
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,440
rode bikes and quads and everything out there, all neighborhoods now.

576
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,799
Speaker 1: Sad. Oh, I don't care.

577
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:46,519
Speaker 2: Is this what you're talking about? With podcasting? You start

578
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:49,880
talking about things that just kind of, you know, yeah.

579
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: Just come out of your mouth. Yeah, extream of conscious.

580
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:56,920
Maybe I should read more questions. Yeah, it's another we'll

581
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,359
give us fresh direction on something. Yeah. Yeah, okay.

582
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: So one person asked Mike, what was the craziest thing

583
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,200
you ever saw in all the years of American Chopper.

584
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,039
Speaker 1: I don't know what refresh my memory here, because it's

585
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,440
like I don't know.

586
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what, you know, like I could, I could,

587
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,000
you know, think of some of the you know, the

588
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:31,319
years of breaking down doors and you know, stuff like that.

589
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,359
Remember when we had those guys from my name is

590
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,559
earl On. Yes, remember we all hatcheted the doors. They

591
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:41,119
were they were passed out because they were like jet lagged.

592
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:43,599
They just came back from somewhere. They just got in, right.

593
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:53,400
And who was that Brandon Lee? No, Jimmy Lee. Brandon

594
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,880
Lee was Bruce Lee.

595
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: You see what I'm talking about. Remember I told you

596
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:02,000
I talked sometimes. Yeah, because that's like a real little

597
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,599
fucking like an old man fart. Yeah, well in the

598
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,839
brain there you know that.

599
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,079
Speaker 2: And I got to redact something from our our podcast

600
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,440
from the other day. Your information was wrong, My information

601
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,039
was wrong, David Bowie. It wasn't Eric Clapton's dad. It

602
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:20,440
was Peter Frampton's dad.

603
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:23,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't we got to get that figured

604
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:25,000
out because that was pretty terrible.

605
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:29,079
Speaker 2: Actually, I mean I thought I've sounded so smart, you know. Yeah,

606
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:36,039
Peter Clapton, Yeah, Peter Frampton, Eric Eric Frampton, Peter Clapton.

607
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,519
Speaker 1: Anyway, crazy ever happened at the shop? Yeah, maybe you

608
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,359
can answer this and not gonna laugh. I mean, I

609
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,920
don't know, I've seen like somebody's crazy nothing, you know.

610
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:50,519
I mean, you know, like when I think of crazy stuff,

611
00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:53,400
I think of things like all these great scenes from

612
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,599
the show where we're like shooting paintballs off the roof

613
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,279
at people. Nobody does that at work.

614
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: That's like a crazy thing we would.

615
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, forget about it. Remember when we were lighting

616
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,319
up Cody was running down a railroad track.

617
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,079
Speaker 2: That's fun stuff. Or we did we jump a bike

618
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:14,240
off the roof. Yeah, we jumped the bike off, remember.

619
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: With a slingshot of some kind of right propelled yes,

620
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,920
mechanism that just sent it off the roof.

621
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,759
Speaker 2: And I remember Dad jumped his hummer and like smashed

622
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:24,759
that thing like nose down.

623
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: Yep, went up, and then it was like a brunt

624
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,240
blast coming down, even though the frame and everything could

625
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:32,000
take it. You wondered, like, you know, oh, no, he

626
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,160
broke all kinds of He broke all kinds of stuff

627
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:40,079
with that thing. That was done. Yeah, yeah, major repairs. Yeah.

628
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,599
Even the other day when we're talking with Ricky when

629
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,440
it was time to knock down like to redo the office.

630
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just got in his get drove right through it,

631
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,720
backing up going. Rick said he was the craziest thing

632
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,240
he ever saw. Yeah, He's like, dude, I got it.

633
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,079
Was like the first day I was there and I'm like,

634
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,640
I don't understand. I'm just here to build bikes. Meanwhile,

635
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,640
we're like, bam.

636
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,759
Speaker 1: I think we all enjoy the idea, like you know,

637
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160
brute force things. Yeah, just a brick through the windshield,

638
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,759
you know, like destruction. Destruction Yeah, that comes from dad. Dude. Yeah,

639
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,519
like going buy an abandoned facility and there's still glass

640
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:16,000
in the windows.

641
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:20,519
Speaker 2: You have to absolutely, Yeah, that's kind of our I

642
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,839
think that's our trigger, that's our You're like, that's the

643
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,640
kind of thing we like, you know, if we could

644
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,440
smash it or destroy it or drop it or explode it.

645
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Explosions are good too, and fire works great great. You

646
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:34,400
know melting things, you know, burning bees, things of that nature.

647
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:37,279
Speaker 1: You know, well the bees, you know you can't talk

648
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:42,279
about that anymore, damn. Yeah. Yeah. Back then people love

649
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,480
that stuff because everybody hates when they.

650
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,839
Speaker 2: Were defending a dog. We were defending a dog. So

651
00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,960
defending a dog, you know what I'm saying. Tomato, Tomato,

652
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,880
I lost my spot. Oh oh, smashing things.

653
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, there's something really exciting about

654
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,279
it though it is. It's it's like you're either excite

655
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,759
or to be unsettling for you, like if you lead

656
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:10,480
a very peaceful life. And that's that's why I think settled. Yes, yeah,

657
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,079
it's a little more civilized way. He had never seen

658
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,159
anything like that. Yeah, it's all we've ever seen. This

659
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,159
is crazy and he got used to it right away.

660
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:22,360
But you know, like that's all we've ever seen. Yeah, craziness,

661
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,760
just destroying things. Yeah, and we always had ginger friends,

662
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,199
You and I different friends that were ginger. They're always crazy,

663
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,599
crazy crazy, Yeah, loser about that.

664
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,039
Speaker 2: Those people who have certain characteristics esthetically like that.

665
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. Gingers are I think genuinely insane, hyperactive,

666
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,800
Like they're the craziest people I have ever met. Some

667
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:48,400
not so much, you know, they go against the rule.

668
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,840
But yeah, a lot of Gingers are nuts.

669
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah they are, man. Yeah, yeah, I don't going on there.

670
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:56,679
You might have to cut this out, but it's true.

671
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be call him. In Australia b Louise

672
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,760
bluisuis yeah, bluish. They have a lot of reverse nicknames.

673
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,199
Speaker 2: It's interesting too, because Adam Moyer was our producer. He

674
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,960
was a ginger, but he was more chill.

675
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: Let's go to a photo of Adam. Now. Yes, he

676
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,079
had a good temperament. Yeah, he hadn't even killed temperament. Yeah,

677
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:27,840
he was good. He was good. Yeah, he's the exception. Moyer.

678
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 2: He was around a long time man. He was you

679
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,639
know how many producers we went through, dude dozens through

680
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:36,320
the years because the show was on for so long. Yeah,

681
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,360
we were intolerable, intolerable. We were really running everything, weren't

682
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,239
we top the bottom?

683
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, especially with Dad, because you know Dad was

684
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:52,440
like experience. You know, the guy in that position usually

685
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:55,480
like like a moral morally loose to say the least,

686
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,280
to say the least, so not completely sold, sold to

687
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,880
the devil kind of thing. Right, So when you went

688
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,719
on off on him and you didn't feel entirely bad,

689
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:05,559
he felt like when they had to go, he didn't

690
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:09,400
feel entirely bad. We never missed any perfect, perfect coworker

691
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,440
not to miss.

692
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who I miss, man, I'll tell you

693
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,760
who I missed. Producer wise, see Russell Mooth.

694
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:16,079
Speaker 1: He was wonderful.

695
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: He was the one who kicked us off. He was

696
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,239
like our first like first season producer.

697
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: Well he had some balls, he did. Yeah, he would

698
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:26,159
actually get fire man. He was hyper, dude. He was

699
00:36:26,159 --> 00:36:28,559
a ginger. I think he was a ginger. You know,

700
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,400
it was one of them ginger. Yeah, he could be

701
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,639
brownish ginger. Yeah, but he was a ginger when he

702
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:35,880
was a kid. You bet no.

703
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: His personality was ginger. Was on fire all the time,

704
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:40,800
fired up.

705
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: He would be physical with us, like yeah, but he

706
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,599
was a little guy. He was a little guy. He

707
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,519
had to try. He had to try. He did. He

708
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:48,639
had to try to give.

709
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,159
Speaker 2: He would try and get like between me and dad

710
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:53,280
or him, and he would get in arguments with dad

711
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:53,519
and be.

712
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,639
Speaker 1: Dude, try and stand his ground. He had to.

713
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: We need you know what's so funny, We needed that

714
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,400
guy to be our producer our first season.

715
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 1: No one would have survived. I think he probably should

716
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,639
have been our producer for the rest of the asshole,

717
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:09,920
I know, I know, but you know what he wanted

718
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960
to go through kind of like weak. You know.

719
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: I think he's done a lot since then. He's in

720
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,159
a much more successful position. He's a good producer.

721
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: Man.

722
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what it was about him. He got

723
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,159
it done and he was able to handle our insanity.

724
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:25,320
First of all, we had no experience with television, and

725
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,000
we were Neanderthals in the.

726
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: Truest sense of the word. Sure we still are.

727
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:31,639
Speaker 2: And so anytime they sent us someone from LA who

728
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,639
is like, you know that kind of guy, you know,

729
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,760
like getting manicures done and stuff.

730
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,159
Speaker 1: That guy couldn't even he couldn't even stay get out,

731
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,079
get out that, I would say, beat it, Hey, come

732
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,159
come get this guy. I'm telling you right now, I'm

733
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,199
not going to work with him. Come get him. Just

734
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,599
by the way he looked. Dad would shoot him out

735
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:51,360
of the shop. Right.

736
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:56,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't handle it, he was right though they

737
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,440
were not They couldn't be around us.

738
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: It was not going to ever work out. Not good. Yeah,

739
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,320
it's still I mean, you know, I still can't stand

740
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,840
to be around a producer. Yeah, they're they're they're like that.

741
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,000
You're right. Uh, you know who I found to be

742
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:12,400
really good? You never speak straight, you know. The only

743
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,639
one that Dave, Remember we had that guy, Dave. Dave

744
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,519
was a good dude.

745
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,079
Speaker 2: He was fighting for us because it was weird during

746
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,360
Senior versus Junior, because there was a lot of strange

747
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,559
stuff going on behind the scenes because it was one

748
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:27,519
production company and all the tapes would get sent down

749
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:31,199
to occ before they got shipped out. Okay, and you know,

750
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:33,639
we were trying to be kind of coy about what

751
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,880
projects we were working.

752
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: It's possible, production it is impossible. I think I was naive.

753
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:43,000
I think I was naive too. You don't have a border, Well, no, No.

754
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: What I think happened is some stuff got showed. A

755
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,519
lot of stuff got showed down there. Okay, Now it

756
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:53,599
didn't just didn't go to post.

757
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: You lost you know what I mean. If you wanted

758
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,719
to know what was happening at the shop, A good

759
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,800
way would be to watch the tapes from that day.

760
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:02,159
That's all I'm saying. So they wouldn't they wouldn't get

761
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:05,639
overnight and they get next day. I don't know, some ship.

762
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,639
I get it. It is what it is. It is

763
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,000
what it is. I mean, if you think the point

764
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,719
I brought up there was like that, it was the

765
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,760
whole thing was somewhat absurd. Ye all together? What do

766
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,360
you mean, the whole entire experience. Yeah, the show, the

767
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,519
network company, the behavior involved.

768
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but dude, I think that's all a part

769
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,400
for the course. I think it's like to your point, it's, well,

770
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,000
it's not just that that industry breeds that. You know,

771
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:38,480
those kind of producers that are like that, and you

772
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:40,880
know production companies that are really good at what they do.

773
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,800
But maybe you know they're heavy handed at times, right,

774
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,159
I mean, this is a lot.

775
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,119
Speaker 1: Of pressure, right loose. I guess yeah, they do gotta.

776
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:53,119
They gotta kind of pull the the choker on you

777
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:56,039
every now and yeah, I mean get you back in line.

778
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: Yes, or right in their own way, like sometimes in

779
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:05,719
its savagely insane way, yes, right, sure, screaming calls.

780
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: Ye. And you know networks are funny, like it would

781
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,400
be like we'd have like a rating slump right in

782
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,159
the middle of like our season and it and we

783
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:18,320
were up against football most of the time, Monday night football.

784
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,199
Speaker 2: So that's a tough spot to be able to compete in.

785
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,039
And we competed very strongly for all of our years,

786
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,559
and there would be like some weird anomaly in the

787
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:29,639
numbers and you'd get a call in blind panic, we're wow,

788
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,599
the show start wend. Yeah, right, anything like this is

789
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:37,760
you got to step in today. Yeah, And then the

790
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,360
next week.

791
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's it's the end of the world. Yeah,

792
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,440
the end of the world.

793
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:44,639
Speaker 2: We're canceling the show, and the next week the Raidings

794
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:46,960
would be back and you get a quick call that goes,

795
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,199
hey raiders, look.

796
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,519
Speaker 1: Good, give good work. See later. Are you guys coming

797
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:53,239
over to the Yeah, you're gonna come to the ad

798
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,679
sales love to have you there. Yeah. We can't pay anything, yeah,

799
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:58,880
pay for airfare.

800
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: No, that was part of our deal ad sales. But

801
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,840
they don't even do those anymore. They don't even do

802
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,400
ad sales.

803
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,039
Speaker 1: You probably don't.

804
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: They don't have those things like that anymore.

805
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,159
Speaker 1: Those are weird. They were like a like a weird

806
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,519
like like all the people in the audience are are

807
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:15,039
from different to major corporations, right yep, thinking about buying

808
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:18,159
ad sales for that corporation. And then they parade all

809
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:19,000
the that's right.

810
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: They talent, the talent like what we got basically here

811
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:23,519
put this suit on.

812
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,159
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I thought it always reminded me like

813
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:27,239
a high school performance.

814
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it kind of was. They did put on

815
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,719
a whole I remember when they brought h D in.

816
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,159
We went up and announced, you know, high.

817
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,599
Speaker 1: Def television because we'd predate that by quite a few years.

818
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,960
But yeah, that was kind of interesting, man, the whole thing,

819
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,119
the upfronts, and you know, I think, honestly, if I

820
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,559
have to look at it now, ah man, I think

821
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:49,679
these some of these uh these cable channels and some

822
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,159
of these networks are have like ad sales. The way

823
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:58,119
people are spending marketing dollars is very like thinned out

824
00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:01,360
now because there's so many different uh I got areas

825
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,719
of content sure diversified. Instead of like ten different things

826
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,800
like billboards and TV and radio, now it's like fifty different, yeah,

827
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,480
networks and platforms.

828
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: And I think it's really hard to get people's attention anymore.

829
00:42:16,159 --> 00:42:18,880
I think, like you said, there's so many, there's so

830
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,239
many platforms out there, so it's very yeah, what what

831
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,719
would you say?

832
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: Uh? I do think like it is it's hard to

833
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:31,239
it's hard to focus a large group, it is.

834
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,039
Speaker 2: And like even like what we're doing here, like a podcast,

835
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,719
it's hard to like make a noise in this sea

836
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,519
of noise.

837
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's big time. How many podcasts are there? Oh?

838
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,199
Now a zillion? Right, yeah, and everyone's doing them.

839
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 2: They're not all good, they're not all as good as

840
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:54,880
this one's. You know what I'm saying, And they don't

841
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,480
have a set like this. It's very listen if I

842
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,440
can't carry something, it's really nice.

843
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: Light out it does right, Yeah, yeah, I think it

844
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,320
beats the piss out of LEDs Oh definitely, yeah, in

845
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,639
the big time way. Yeah. Yeah, you heard that. You

846
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,039
heard the podcast with Mark, didn't you? No? Oh, the

847
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:13,239
Neon guy. You didn't hear that one? Oh you? Oh no,

848
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,599
you came after. It's so funny you say that.

849
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,199
Speaker 2: That's exactly what we were talking about, how Neon has

850
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,320
soul and LED lights are flat.

851
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: Not only that, Neon lights all the way around Neon

852
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,840
don't pulsate either. It does slow it down. I mean,

853
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:29,960
you know, it's not that I have anything against the

854
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,960
lights that you brought in here to film the show,

855
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,159
because they're essential and they're very easy to set up,

856
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:37,639
and they're really efficient and they work really well. Yeah,

857
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,480
I'm just saying as far as like sitting in your

858
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,960
living room like a regular Edison bulb, Yeah yeah, something

859
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,719
about LED. Yeah, yes, weird light from that perspective, I agree.

860
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,840
You know, all right, Nate, what do you got? Man?

861
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,840
Come on fire? A good come on, Nasty Nate. What's

862
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,800
your last name? Naughty Jungle of Love.

863
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: Stuart, Nasty Nate Stewart. Man, geez, he sounds like a

864
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:04,559
NASCAR driver.

865
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,159
Speaker 1: Nasty Nate Stewart. I was thinking like a X comments

866
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,480
works as a bouncer at a strip joint. Yeah, with

867
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,280
a little tear drop tattooed down his eye. Yeah, definitely

868
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,679
a couple of kills. Well, what about being with Paul?

869
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,920
You know, like it was good working with Paul? Was

870
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,320
working at your shop was pretty cool? Mom? Mom worked

871
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,239
there for him. Well, that was nice. Huh, that was

872
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,840
very nice.

873
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,039
Speaker 2: It was for years, and she was so good at

874
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,719
taking care of all the charity stuff, like anyone who

875
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,840
needed like donations or letter or something signed, she handled

876
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,000
all that for us. And everybody got their everything, and

877
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:45,599
she was great working at the receptionist.

878
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,039
Speaker 1: It was. It was a good environment my shop. It

879
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:50,320
was a very healthy environment.

880
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,039
Speaker 2: I will say that, and I know that coming from

881
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:55,039
the steel business and then the occ days were not

882
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:58,000
a healthy environment for me, even though it was fun

883
00:44:58,039 --> 00:45:00,360
and we did great things, but it just to me

884
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,119
it was not healthy. And coming out of that, I

885
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:06,599
think I thought our group was really good, Like everyone

886
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,920
very much got along Brendan, Vin, Cody right, ye yourself,

887
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,159
Rachel Mom. It was like a nice synergy, you know,

888
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,000
it was and you never felt a lot of anngst.

889
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:20,840
There was a lot of pressure at times, but it

890
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,320
was always very amicable. Everybody got along for the most part,

891
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,800
and it was like it felt like a nice atmosphere.

892
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

893
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,559
Speaker 2: I was proud of that about that aspect of what

894
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,519
senior versus junior, you know, when we parted ways and uh,

895
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:38,400
you know after that one year and non compete, we

896
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,800
started building bikes and you know, just we had a

897
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,119
great team, just a great team, you know, pushing, pushing

898
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:46,679
the envelope of creativity.

899
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,679
Speaker 1: That was fantastic.

900
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: We had just the right amount of equipment, the water jets,

901
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,039
see and C machine. Vin was fantastic with the C

902
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,360
and C machine. Brendan was just an all round fantastic fabricator.

903
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,519
And then you know Cody did everything. Cody was like good,

904
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:08,800
did it all assembly, random water jet, fantastic welder, sure, fantastic, fantastic,

905
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,079
fan freak showtastic. No, seriously, we had such a good team, man.

906
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: It was it was nice. It was nice building those

907
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:24,039
early bikes. Yeah, it was nice. You know, an artistic freedom. Yep, right,

908
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:30,840
I think I was painting at the time. Yep. Nice.

909
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,000
I don't know how to elaborate. That's fine. Paul was

910
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:43,239
growing up, Yeah, Mike, don't hold back. I think was

911
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,320
I What kind of big brother was I? Growing up?

912
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:47,920
Your big brother? Bigger? Your older brothers are always so

913
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,960
much older, bigger? Yeah, when you're growing up? Yeah, but

914
00:46:52,159 --> 00:46:54,679
did I beat you up a lot? I don't think

915
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,639
any more than any other brother, right to know.

916
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: I felt like that happened occasionally. I would stop you

917
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,400
guys out on occasion. Yeah, you know, I would go

918
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,840
into like a rageful anger.

919
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, just beat the shit out. Yeah, I might have

920
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,480
blocked out. I'm only two years older than Dan and

921
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:14,840
four years older than you. You know, well that's quite

922
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,840
a bit. I thought you probably needed your ass whipped

923
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,239
more off. Maybe so, man, maybe you didn't do it enough.

924
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: No, Mike was such a good kid growing up, man,

925
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:29,800
very unassuming, uh not great with your Your appetite was

926
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,840
very I don't know. I think you ate cereal and

927
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,840
like pasta for the first thirteen years of your life.

928
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you didn't meat? No, that was yeah, well

929
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:41,440
it was what it was. You know. Yeah, Yeah, I

930
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,679
don't know. May it wasn't naturally vegetarian. Maybe I should

931
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:48,559
go vegetarian. Yeah, it seems boring, seems real boring. I mean,

932
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:51,320
I like vegetarian. But what'd you.

933
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,159
Speaker 2: Think about our upbringing on an overall basis? No, I'm

934
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:58,320
not asking for anything deep. Like I've been thinking about

935
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,119
this recently, I'm more and more fond of it.

936
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. Yeah, when you're a little younger, you're

937
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,639
kind of like got a chip on your shoulder towards

938
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:07,679
your parents. I think you're right. You know, when when

939
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:09,760
you're young, when it's going on because you're being disciplined

940
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,360
and making you do things you don't want to do,

941
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,800
and then for your for your own good, and then

942
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:17,280
later on into your twenties, you're like, I'll show them

943
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,000
and everything. Yeah, and the world humbles you a little

944
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,079
bit and beats you up, and then you realize that

945
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:26,000
like parents did the best they could or they tried right,

946
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,519
and even if they fucked up, you know, like everybody

947
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:30,960
fuck up. Yeah, of course, Well the most part we

948
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,239
had love, and I think that's a big deal. It

949
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,039
is a big deal. I think you're right. I do

950
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,400
think it wins out because I remember being like an

951
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,320
angry teenager, you know, how dare you, especially with dad

952
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,960
drinking and everything. Yeah, and it's because that was a

953
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,000
big problem.

954
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: But now when I look back at it, I never

955
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,920
think about that. I only think about the good stuff.

956
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,000
I really don't. It's not like I dwell on that.

957
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:52,920
And overall it was a good life.

958
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: Man. We lived on Chandler Lane, We played in the cornfield,

959
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,280
we built forts, we walked in the trails, we played

960
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,280
football and backyards. Ye, nobody does that anymore. Not mud puddles, Yeah, yeah,

961
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:06,760
weird stuff. Climb trees, build a tree for it, build

962
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,880
a ground for it. We'd go sleigh riding and then

963
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,000
try to like hit people with the sleagh. Yeah, try

964
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,320
and take them out. Yeah, that doesn't happen anymore. Nope.

965
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:16,199
Speaker 2: I mean used to have like ten twelve kids in

966
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,079
the front yard at the house on any given Saturday,

967
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:20,719
all sizes, all doing all.

968
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: Kinds of just one throwing the smallest one around, that's right,

969
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,159
midget tossing. I remember dog fights. Oh yeah, the dogs

970
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:28,920
fought all the time, like, not on purpose, not like

971
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,119
people had money on it, but they would gather around

972
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,079
just the same. Yeah.

973
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,679
Speaker 2: Well, Jason, our great Dane would fight the Saint Bernard

974
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,239
that was right behind us. And those were bloody battles. Man,

975
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,960
that's insane, those bloody battles. Those are huge dogs, huge dogs. Yeah,

976
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:44,000
either one of them were right in the head. No,

977
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:48,480
Dad had dog issues, he did. Yeah, Like Jason was

978
00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:49,519
a terrible dog.

979
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: What was up with him?

980
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Just there was so much dysfunction at the time. I

981
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:57,000
think he was just probably used. Yeah, and I think

982
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,840
he had a screw loose and he bit every all

983
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,360
my friends, and he bid all the neighbors dogs and

984
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,039
it was like, you know, I was a pariah because.

985
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,039
Speaker 1: Of that dog. Couldn't I would like Lataki's.

986
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,559
Speaker 2: Dog would trot into the yard and mister Lataki would

987
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,639
come out with a shovel trying to, you know, keep

988
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:17,519
the dog away. The dog was aggressive, you know, and

989
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,480
that's a big, scary aggressive dog.

990
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:20,079
Speaker 1: A Great Dane.

991
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: They're usually not like that. Most Great Danes are very docile.

992
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,559
But I think, you know, that dog was in the

993
00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:27,199
steel shop for like all the insanity.

994
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, people just even just the sounds and

995
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,480
nice I think so. I think it might have like

996
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:38,840
mess with his nerves or something, you know, all right, Well,

997
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,199
what do you think, Nate? Everyone wants to know about

998
00:50:41,199 --> 00:50:43,119
your painting. I don't know if you guys got into that.

999
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,679
I don't even paint anymore. No, you don't.

1000
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: But people think of you as an artist, Michael, and

1001
00:50:49,039 --> 00:50:51,800
you have let them down with your lack of painting.

1002
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,119
Speaker 1: Damn you. I have like ten of your paintings. You

1003
00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:59,719
do like to see them? I have them right downstairs

1004
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,480
and the house. Yeah, yep. I bought them all in

1005
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:05,880
the auction on television, remember that. Yeah, and the proceeds

1006
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,039
went to the juvenile diabetes. Yes, and I bought them all, dude,

1007
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:12,039
I was outbidden everybody. Yeah you did. Yeah, some of

1008
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:15,559
those I paid like ten thousand dollars for really yeah,

1009
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,880
the most ever painting for it was like twelve hundred

1010
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,320
and fifty dollars. That's pretty good. It was very good.

1011
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,920
But I was going to talk the guy out of

1012
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,119
it because like, what the Yeah, you're like waiting mind.

1013
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool, So talk to me about painting.

1014
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: Painting. First of all, let's go back forget about it.

1015
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,280
We know you don't do it anymore, but wait, I

1016
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,159
don't do it, but it was good when you started.

1017
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,639
It's good you enjoyed it. I loved it. Yeah.

1018
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,599
Speaker 2: See it's an outlet for a time period. It was

1019
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:42,360
like a season, I guess, right, yeah, And.

1020
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,519
Speaker 1: I think it helped influence how I uh, you know,

1021
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:50,280
hang a frame while filming Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It

1022
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,360
was like a stepping stone. It's a stepping stone.

1023
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: That's it, man, That's all life is. But you know,

1024
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:57,559
it's funny because the show causes people to see you

1025
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:00,760
in a picture of time because of that aspect of

1026
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:01,320
your life.

1027
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,159
Speaker 1: So that becomes a question that everyone does he still

1028
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:08,239
have the galleries, he's still doing the artwork, And I'm like, no, nope,

1029
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,880
short answer. But I I stopped painting. Yeah, I just

1030
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,880
did three three years of painting. I think it was therapeutic.

1031
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:18,360
And then I just didn't want to do it anymore.

1032
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,159
And I've I picked it up a bunch of times since,

1033
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,360
like here and there, you know, once every year or whatever,

1034
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,519
and it doesn't catch.

1035
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,559
Speaker 2: Really, It just you don't know, you lost the love

1036
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:29,679
and feeling. Yeah, yeah, that happens sometimes.

1037
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,199
Speaker 1: Man. It's like a hobby. Yeah, I don't Yeah, I

1038
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:33,760
don't think it was like a passion so much as

1039
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,360
it was a cathartic thing. To do that I needed

1040
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,280
to do for an extent to make any money with it.

1041
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,480
Really not really not really. You know, once you have

1042
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,400
an art you know, the gallery overhead, Yeah yeah, all that,

1043
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:48,000
you know, and you're trying to feature local artists that

1044
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:51,000
have a lot of merit and yeah, nobody a lot

1045
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:53,800
of merit, no money, yeah, yeah, they're they're there for

1046
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:59,079
the free figs. Yep. Yeah, not much of a business man. Yeah,

1047
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,159
it's all right, you know. Yeah, but you know, like

1048
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:05,679
those things are pretty good because your failures kind of

1049
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,000
helped mold where you're where you don't want to be,

1050
00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:12,119
you know, where you're certain you don't want to be. Yeah,

1051
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:13,119
and that helps you kind.

1052
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: Of and to your point, when you think about the

1053
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,760
past and you reflect positively on it, that's you know,

1054
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,360
that stuff that was adverse kind of makes you who

1055
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:23,679
you are.

1056
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably more so than the good times, almost, right,

1057
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,119
I think so, because the good times kind of real smooth,

1058
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,119
yeah right, but the bad times they leave dinks, they

1059
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:36,079
leaves through the eyebrow or whatever it is, you know

1060
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:39,920
what I mean. More personality, I think it does. It

1061
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,719
builds you up and makes you more mature. It makes

1062
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,760
you appreciate the past more. Yep, it does because you're like,

1063
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:50,199
dang man, maybe it wasn't that bad, you know, yeah, yeah,

1064
00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:52,800
because say things are they run hot in your mind?

1065
00:53:53,039 --> 00:53:57,119
Yeah yeah, ex lovers and whatnot. What. Well, you know,

1066
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:00,199
I'm just like, you don't have accurate memories when it

1067
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:04,639
comes to, you know, something you're extremely passionate about. Oh yeah,

1068
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:09,800
yeah right, I'm not asking any bring up any like

1069
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,480
you were going to bring some up. Oh no, I

1070
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:19,480
swore I wouldn't. Yeah, you made promises, huh I did. Cool?

1071
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: Man, Well, I like this podcast. I think it's fun.

1072
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:26,440
I like doing this. It's pretty chill. I'm looking forward

1073
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,599
to having some different guests.

1074
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,199
Speaker 1: Any suggestions, I mean then, and Cody will probably come

1075
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:31,920
on eventually.

1076
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 2: Maybe what Jason Poole would probably be good, you think, sure? Yeah,

1077
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,760
I think Jason would be good. He's hyperactive.

1078
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's nuts. Yeah, he's I don't know if he's

1079
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:47,840
still nutty because sometimes I've worked with him. He's done

1080
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,159
some machining and stuff. We've done some work together.

1081
00:54:50,159 --> 00:54:52,639
Speaker 2: And to be honest with you, dude, I really enjoyed

1082
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,280
just conversations with him.

1083
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: Sure, just like he's like, yeah, just fun.

1084
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:00,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like back then, we had a lot

1085
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,079
of fun together, me and him, We go hunting, we'd

1086
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:05,960
like we do everything. Yea, this was before too much

1087
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,519
responsibility was in play.

1088
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: You know, well, you're gonna you're gonna have them on

1089
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,360
like and then folding people from different walks of life. Yeah,

1090
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,119
I think so you're sticking with motor here. No, okay, cool,

1091
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,400
definitely not. I mean I don't care. Interesting, Yeah, I

1092
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,880
don't care. If you're an iron worker, you're saving the wells,

1093
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:22,880
I'm gonna do it all.

1094
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 2: I do think people want to hear like these conversations.

1095
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:30,400
I think, you know, the Rick one is fantastic.

1096
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,519
Speaker 1: Even theon it ties into a like a pre set

1097
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:34,119
in audience.

1098
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interested in a lot. I'm interested in all

1099
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:39,239
kinds of stuff, you know what I mean. So I'm

1100
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,159
just gonna stick with that.

1101
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, have like a like a seal expert one week

1102
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:46,639
and then like exactly, it's beIN amatographer the next.

1103
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,599
Speaker 2: And I would love to get like a Special Forces

1104
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:51,639
guy in here that you know, has a good story

1105
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:53,800
to tell. That's a really good idea, because that would

1106
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,519
mix it up a little bit. And I think when

1107
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:58,960
people come in here and they see the studio. They're

1108
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:01,519
right away thinking this is legit. You know, so we

1109
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:03,960
set the we set the tone right out of the gate.

1110
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't think it would be

1111
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,320
impossible for you to find someone like that either. No,

1112
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,960
you know, Special Forces is rare, but not that rare. Yeah.

1113
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 2: And I also think that with all the tribute stuff

1114
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,079
we did through the years with the military, I feel

1115
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:19,599
like the military.

1116
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: And US are pretty tight. I mean a lot of

1117
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,920
people who were deployed overseas for years and years would

1118
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,960
watch the show out there. I hear it all the time.

1119
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000
People give them a little bit of a comfort of home. Yeah,

1120
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:33,639
a little bit of Americana overseas, you know. Sure, And

1121
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,159
I think that I think that ties us in really

1122
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:39,039
tight with the military, first responders, police, you know, you

1123
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:42,199
name it, anyone who's doing any kind of service out there.

1124
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,719
Is anythink you can take care of this ticket? I

1125
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,760
got on the way down. No did you? Oh I

1126
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:52,320
was going to say yes that I didn't like the show. Okay,

1127
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,760
I forgot about me, But no, I hear you there.

1128
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,159
We get a lot of support from them. Yeah, yeah,

1129
00:56:57,199 --> 00:56:59,599
you should have them on. Maybe even like the police

1130
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:01,360
chief New York City or something.

1131
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could talk to I could probably have like

1132
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:05,719
the head of the New Jersey State Police on.

1133
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,039
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, the number two guy has a house

1134
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:12,599
on the island. Just have him. Yeah, Kill Commons, I

1135
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:14,719
should have him on. That's his name. Yeah, it was

1136
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,519
an Irish name, I believe, so, Kill Commons. Great name.

1137
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:19,559
I've never heard that before.

1138
00:57:19,639 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm saying it right. I'm probably ninety

1139
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,840
percent on the pronunciation of it. But anyways, I do.

1140
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:31,400
I work with Troopers United, and they are you know,

1141
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,039
they raise money for the Troopers and they're fantastic organization,

1142
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:41,679
all state Troopers. Their headquarters is over there in it's

1143
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:45,440
now where it's Trenton. Oh yeah, and it's been there

1144
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:46,159
very historically.

1145
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: You know.

1146
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,679
Speaker 2: New Jersey State Troopers are super interesting because their proximity

1147
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:54,400
to New York City, uh makes this a hot bed

1148
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:58,079
for terrorism, New Jersey in particular. So, yeah, they have

1149
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:01,000
almost like a militant police force, and they have so

1150
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:03,159
many different special units.

1151
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: Because of a rough reputation at all.

1152
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,079
Speaker 2: No, but even the way they're set up is military.

1153
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:13,400
The way they're the way their whole system works is

1154
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,239
more along the way they're the hierarchy of how they're

1155
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:22,000
established is based in like more of a military background.

1156
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: So they're serious cats. You know, they're tight.

1157
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, when they wear their hats, they're at a certain

1158
00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:28,719
angle and they're high and tight.

1159
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,719
Speaker 1: That's right. They don't.

1160
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: They have a certain level of you know, they have

1161
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,000
to look a certain way, they have to act a

1162
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,559
certain way. And to me, they do a really great job,

1163
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:38,800
these guys, they really do.

1164
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: You know. Plus they won't give me tickets. Harding job.

1165
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:44,840
That's a real hard they see the worst ship they do.

1166
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:45,519
And you know, when you.

1167
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: Think about it, like man, like the past four the

1168
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,000
past four years has been tough for cops, you know,

1169
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,159
especially like right out of uh, right out of.

1170
00:58:54,119 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: Because of iteled horrible, horrible human being.

1171
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: And then they also had to start to worry about

1172
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,400
terrible you know, getting sued personally. They start, you know,

1173
00:59:03,519 --> 00:59:07,360
so that who wants for what they get paid. You know,

1174
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,920
there's a lot of risks obviously on these roads. You

1175
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,559
got to pull cars over. That's always dangerous. Then you

1176
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:15,599
never know who you're pulling over and what they have

1177
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:20,039
in the car, right sure, and so that's a real concern.

1178
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:23,360
And then you always have to address the problems. No

1179
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,840
one else wants to deal with, right, they call you.

1180
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,519
Oh yeah, horrible domestic ship Yeah, all kinds of stuff.

1181
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. I give these guys a lot of credit me

1182
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:39,719
to have even local part time cops them, not all

1183
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,000
of them.

1184
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,559
Speaker 2: I know these guys here in the Islands ship bottom

1185
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,840
credit I get by Chris about the ship bottom guys.

1186
00:59:48,599 --> 00:59:51,239
Speaker 1: You should be talking about the Montgomery guys. No, they're

1187
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,079
not really so bad anymore. I don't even know. I

1188
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:56,039
don't really, I don't really pay Yeah, back in the

1189
00:59:56,199 --> 01:00:00,280
back of the pull over and harasspect cops, oh very much. So. Yeah,

1190
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,760
they'd be like I remember them being kind of coked up.

1191
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, in Montgomery, we had some shady stuff going on,

1192
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:12,159
real big time, real weird stuff, weird shit, real weird stuff,

1193
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:14,280
we weird kids. We were like in our teens, and

1194
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,679
these cops had it out for us. Man, they knew

1195
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,440
us by name.

1196
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: I would circumvent our own hometown. Yes, and yeah, I'm

1197
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,960
telling you they were. They would bust your chops so bad.

1198
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:27,079
It was different. But you got to remember they mostly

1199
01:00:27,119 --> 01:00:30,719
have like cameras and stuff now, so everything's there's there's

1200
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,440
accountability now. Back then it was a while West, you know. Yeah,

1201
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:37,719
everybody has a body cam or a car came they

1202
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:38,400
don't they know.

1203
01:00:38,519 --> 01:00:41,199
Speaker 2: You have a phone. You don't know where you are

1204
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:45,400
on anybody, and you record what's happening. So every I

1205
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,719
think people are real sensitive to the fact that their

1206
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,360
misbehaviors may be found out through technology and whatever capacity,

1207
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,119
whether it's one of these cameras or a phone. So

1208
01:00:56,159 --> 01:00:58,679
I think everyone's on their best behavior and they're mostly

1209
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:00,960
good cops. But back then, do they weren't good guys

1210
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,559
and they were like local part timers, so they had

1211
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:07,440
like vendettas against people locally, like outside of being a cop,

1212
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,079
you know what I mean. I think that's it's small

1213
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:11,239
town typical stuff.

1214
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,239
Speaker 1: Sure, and they'd go outside the bounds and like, you

1215
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,039
know how you're supposed to behave as.

1216
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,639
Speaker 2: A Yeah, I mean, nobody was getting their heads cracked open,

1217
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:19,559
but tickets were being handed out.

1218
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:21,559
Speaker 1: There was a lot of more in the way of corruption.

1219
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they didn't like the way you looked, they

1220
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:25,760
pulled you over put it that way, yep, you know.

1221
01:01:26,199 --> 01:01:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1222
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,559
Speaker 2: So but I love those days when you could blow

1223
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:34,320
up a mail bolloween and not go to jail. Halloween, Oh,

1224
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,639
Halloween was crazy. Yeah, that was insane.

1225
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,639
Speaker 1: It was like a ryot who was a riot. Yeah,

1226
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:41,079
it was like eggs shaving cream and like they would

1227
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:46,800
you know you. It was that way after break Glass

1228
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,920
everywhere everywhere it was crazy, man.

1229
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, we used to have Halloweens and Viking Heights that

1230
01:01:51,719 --> 01:01:53,880
was like.

1231
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,039
Speaker 1: Like shake the cop car. The cop wouldn't even get out,

1232
01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:57,400
wouldn't even get out, smashing bottles on the windows. It

1233
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,440
was like it was like a revolt, like a prison riot.

1234
01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:04,519
It was. I saw it in the sixth grade. I

1235
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:07,199
think after that they kind of cleaned it up. Then

1236
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:09,559
they had a curfew that year after and the cops

1237
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:11,000
were everywhere and they couldn't get out of the car.

1238
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,679
Speaker 2: It was like the kids took over the development completely

1239
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,800
one hundred percent. They were getting ready to send in

1240
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,199
the National Guard that night.

1241
01:02:19,199 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: I remember glass Gatory bottle boom smashing the people, throwing

1242
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,199
all kinds of eggs, shaving cream, like canisters when they

1243
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:30,960
were empty, just bouncing them off the cop cars. It was.

1244
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,760
It was a crazy thing, man. Yeah. Yeah, they couldn't

1245
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:34,960
get out and went to open the door and it

1246
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:38,159
was like they were like just got back in the car,

1247
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,800
drove away. That's amazing, because that'd be like something out

1248
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,280
of a movie. But that's actually the way.

1249
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you Quill's house. Quills are our cousins,

1250
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,320
lived right in the middle of Viking Heights, right. You

1251
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,360
remember how many eggs Shawn he used to get, used

1252
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,920
to throw the house over the house so they go out.

1253
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: We used to go out on the roof and just

1254
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,199
anyone who walked by was like, we would throw a

1255
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,639
thousand eggs. More like you're in the and all you

1256
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,239
need to do is hear people coming, and you wouldn't

1257
01:03:05,239 --> 01:03:06,840
even be seen because you'd be on the other side

1258
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:12,519
of the roof just like them, and you'd hear like splat, splat,

1259
01:03:12,519 --> 01:03:14,159
and then you wouldn't hear a splat and you'd hear

1260
01:03:18,519 --> 01:03:20,599
we did that.

1261
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: That's the kind of stuff we did growing up, Like

1262
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,480
on a Saturday. It wasn't that was chaos that one

1263
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:28,639
Halloween you're talking about. But we would throw stuff at

1264
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:31,320
cars when we were kids, not anything huge, but we

1265
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,639
would like we'd shoot like corn kernels and stuff. We

1266
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,760
climb up in the trees and we get like straws

1267
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,719
and we'd like shoot a corn kernel, you know, and

1268
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,760
be like like that.

1269
01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:46,559
Speaker 1: The cars would be like some dude would get out

1270
01:03:46,679 --> 01:03:52,000
start running. We did a lot of that, man, a

1271
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:56,400
lot of like ring and run out running people bigger

1272
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,480
than you, outrunning the old people. Holy ship, and that's

1273
01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:02,039
like it was excitement though. Sure, sure, yeah.

1274
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:04,559
Speaker 2: We would go with like ten guys. We'd go to

1275
01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:06,760
the neighbor's house. They knew who we were, they just

1276
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,400
couldn't find any of us at the time. We'd go

1277
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,400
in there like eight thirty at nine, boom boom, hit

1278
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,400
the door five times as hard you can. They're like

1279
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,400
watching Archie Bunker in the living room, you know, and.

1280
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,519
Speaker 1: We're just scattering to come out, all you cats, you know,

1281
01:04:21,639 --> 01:04:23,760
cursing up a storm, all pissed off.

1282
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had fun, man, that was That was like

1283
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,119
Chandler Lane right there.

1284
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:31,199
Speaker 1: Man, that was like a day in the life. Yeah.

1285
01:04:31,199 --> 01:04:34,639
It was insane. Yeah. And the dog's room freely.

1286
01:04:34,719 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: Dog's room freely and bit kids at well everybody, that's

1287
01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:38,559
right man.

1288
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. Some kids got humped too. They playing football

1289
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:49,400
and giant dog comes over and you couldn't get up. Yeah, crazy, gosh, damn.

1290
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,719
That was like right America. That was America, Come on, yeah,

1291
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,280
frozen in the middle of the street for hours by

1292
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,599
a dog, you know. Yeah, or a turtle. Remember them.

1293
01:04:59,639 --> 01:05:01,039
Turtles used to come up from the pond.

1294
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: They were like a lot of snappers, giant snapping turtles

1295
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:04,400
would come up.

1296
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. We'd let them bite sticks and give them a

1297
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:12,159
hat to chew on. Yeah. And then we had a

1298
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:17,320
a tractor tire that was a sandbox and lots of snakes,

1299
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,960
lots of snakes. To catch snakes. I used to catch

1300
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,159
snakes two handfuls at a time. Yeah, I remember you

1301
01:05:22,159 --> 01:05:24,360
putting them down in your shirt, tucking your shirt. I

1302
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,480
was like a snake whisper. Hey. Can I tell you

1303
01:05:28,519 --> 01:05:31,679
the most disturbing thing I ever did. I was walking

1304
01:05:31,719 --> 01:05:34,320
home from the takes and there was all these snakes

1305
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:39,880
sonning on Bosh's yard right and there was a hole

1306
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,239
in the ground from an old fence post, and I

1307
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,920
went to go grab one of the snakes, and then

1308
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,360
all of a sudden I saw them all and they

1309
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,559
all went down in the hole. So I just put

1310
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:49,840
my whole arm all the way down in that fence post,

1311
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,920
like to my shoulder, and just pulled out a handful

1312
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,239
of snakes. Dude, there had to be thirty snakes in

1313
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:58,400
my hand land noodling. That's insane, right, they're biting me

1314
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,280
all over. I didn't really care. I don't know why.

1315
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: And then I bring him home and put him in

1316
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,960
that that big tire in the backyard, to sandbox tire.

1317
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,639
Speaker 1: That was nice, Yeah, it was. They got to play

1318
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:10,599
with him. Yeah, then you get out, but be able

1319
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:12,239
to play with some snakes for a little bit. Yeah.

1320
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: The worst part about them snakes and guarters. They poop

1321
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:16,760
all over you when you catch them.

1322
01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: Sure, and that sandbox stinks too, It's like a pissy smell.

1323
01:06:21,119 --> 01:06:23,719
All the local cats used to ship in the sandbox. Yes,

1324
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,559
that's true. I think you made me eat one. I think, Chris,

1325
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,079
I think, yeah, yeah ship.

1326
01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking about talking about him because he was

1327
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,280
such a bully when we were kids.

1328
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: Man, bully. He's a nice guy now he's like a pastor. Yeah,

1329
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,119
like it was a rotten kid.

1330
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,599
Speaker 2: He was a bad egg man. He picked on me,

1331
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,239
picked up. He really picked on you.

1332
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1333
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,039
Speaker 2: He always made fun of you in all kinds of ways.

1334
01:06:49,079 --> 01:06:50,760
And you were much younger than him because he was

1335
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,760
two years older than me, so he was like he

1336
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,239
was you were six years younger than him. So you know,

1337
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,559
you were like a big target and I was smaller

1338
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:01,440
than him, so he was like like he was very

1339
01:07:01,519 --> 01:07:03,199
you know, bullyish.

1340
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,599
Speaker 1: Brother John used to beat him up occasionally. Yeah, maybe

1341
01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:08,519
that just trickled down. Yeah maybe, But John seemed like

1342
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:11,119
a really nice guy. John's a nice guy. I mean

1343
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,159
he always was time Like nobody, you know, nobody could

1344
01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:17,519
be No. John was miles man. He might have beat

1345
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:21,239
up his brother like nightly. Yeah sure, yeah, just grabbed

1346
01:07:21,239 --> 01:07:24,800
by the hair and started pumbling him. Yeah, exactly, jeez.

1347
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,079
Things we talk about, yeah, was all right, Yeah I

1348
01:07:31,079 --> 01:07:34,159
should I'm gonna have like I could have like Mark

1349
01:07:34,239 --> 01:07:38,280
probably Mark Devitt down the cue. All these guys, all

1350
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,639
my friends are irish. You should have all your friends

1351
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:43,639
and talk about like you know, falling into lakes, oh

1352
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,239
almost dying, yeah, doing the backstroke drunk. But those guys

1353
01:07:48,239 --> 01:07:50,280
are very interesting, and I suggest that you have those

1354
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,199
guys on with like a glass of scotch. Yeah, baby,

1355
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,760
you know we would have like the whole conversation starts

1356
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,400
to melt, and you guys are just like a couple

1357
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:03,679
of drunks yelling over each other. So I just we

1358
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,239
had I had them up.

1359
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: I had my guys up three or four months ago

1360
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,360
and uh man, dude, we just hung out right at

1361
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,880
the beach house for the whole weekend.

1362
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:16,039
Speaker 1: Bro.

1363
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,039
Speaker 2: It was nothing but laughing and having fun. It was

1364
01:08:19,079 --> 01:08:22,560
like the best time every just laughing about the past,

1365
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,319
telling stories, like there's no one else like that in

1366
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:28,279
my life. As far as like a group of guys

1367
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:30,920
where everybody's that tight, you know, we just have such

1368
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,159
a it's such a comfortable, easy environment that, you know,

1369
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:36,439
we have a couple of drinks.

1370
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,399
Speaker 1: Certain friends you can't make more of, No, certain types of.

1371
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:42,359
Speaker 2: Now you can't get super Yeah, especially at fifty, I

1372
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:43,119
was looking at something.

1373
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: This is a little depressing, but like you just don't

1374
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,680
have enough time in life either. You know, forty years

1375
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,840
you don't and now it's two thirds of your life

1376
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,319
is gone, right, So you're like, you'd have to meet

1377
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:55,399
someone today and live to ninety. That's right, and it's possible,

1378
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,760
but I don't anticipate it. I'm not looking for Yeah,

1379
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,359
all right, Mikey Tuttle, I appreciate you doing this again. Yeah, man,

1380
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:10,279
I like our banter where's the where's the weed? Of

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course you guys said, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, we're taking a weed here yeah, it's said in

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the email.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on free weed I get here. There's great,

1385
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there's microphones but no. Yeah, it was good being on

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the show here, Baul. Yeah, thanks for coming out. We

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have a nice show. You're nice set up and you

1388
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got Nasty Nate there behind the nasty date Stuart. Baby. Yeah,

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lucky number thirteen in the night, number thirteen car. Yeah,

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you know, racing for Home Depot. Yeah, Nate Stuart finishing

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it twenty three this week. Yes, yeah, moving up in

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the ranks. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Who's he raced for? Oh, home Depot. That's like that's

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like his main sponsor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we like job lots, you know. I'm rear

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bomber corner, corner panel, yep, something like that. Yep. Nasty

1397
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Nate Stewart wins another race, you know what I mean? Yeah,

1398
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coming around, come around to to co. Nasty Nate Stewart.

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Speaker 2: Nasty Nate Stewart, come around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the turn free in the pity always gets

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out of the car he starts doing. Yeah, yeah, give

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me here, baby, that's right, all right, sorry first your last, Nate,

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hell second's third? All right? Anyways, that was a good one.

1404
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This is pretty good. Man that was good. Here comes

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nasty Nate Stewart. Come on, this message is brought to

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you by Budweiser. You know that reminds me of an aqualogue.

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You can sing aqualong with that. You know the party,

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you know all right? What do you think, Nate Redone