Speaker 1: Boundless Authenticity Podcast. Welcome back to Boundless Authenticity.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: I'm joined by a friend, Heidi, who happens to be
Speaker 1: the host of Unfiltered Rice podcast as well as a
Speaker 1: cult survivor and a truth speaker.
Speaker 2: Howdy Heidi, Hi, I'm so happy to be back and
Speaker 2: chat with you. You are my friend. I'm so glad
Speaker 2: to have met you and back to talk about some
Speaker 2: weird stuff. Man, this is my weird little story about
Speaker 2: my kid. We were talking about kids and so this
Speaker 2: will fit right in. But yeah, yeah, so have I
Speaker 2: have a presentation when we're ready? Yeah? Yeah, me too today,
Speaker 2: me too. Go ahead and get started. Oh all right,
Speaker 2: so I'll go into let me sure, and then anything
Speaker 2: you want to stop me at, like, just you know,
Speaker 2: to interrupt me, I don't. I don't like wait until
Speaker 2: the end because I'll forget what I was saying. There
Speaker 2: we go, and I'm going to minimize after that's done.
Speaker 2: Hippy ah, So this slide show here, can you see
Speaker 2: my sight's coming up? There? We are? Can you see that? Okay? Whoop?
Speaker 2: I can't hear you. I hope you can hear me there?
Speaker 2: Can you see that? Okay? Yeah? Alliforn Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 2: I put this in here because funny enough, the great
Speaker 2: Seal of California is Minerva. And this goes right along
Speaker 2: with my story about my daughter. And a lot of
Speaker 2: people ask me like, well, why does that have anything
Speaker 2: to do with your daughter, and I'm like, well, let
Speaker 2: me tell you a little story about this. So and
Speaker 2: I think they might be slightly out of order, but
Speaker 2: that's okay. We went to Italy and we went to
Speaker 2: Rome and me and my daughter. My daughter had just
Speaker 2: suffered a horrible sexual assault and she was healing. I
Speaker 2: cut her out of this photo. She's in it. You
Speaker 2: can kind of see her to the side there with
Speaker 2: the scarf. I don't like to blast her face or anything,
Speaker 2: because that's wrong. But I am there. You can see.
Speaker 2: We're there, and this tour guide pops out of nowhere
Speaker 2: and he comes up to us. We're just standing on
Speaker 2: the side of this road waiting for my husband to
Speaker 2: bring back sandwiches. And this nice looking man comes up
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you gotta go away because my husband
Speaker 2: is coming. He's not going to like that. So he's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm a tour guide. I'm like sure, right, and he's
Speaker 2: like no, no, I promise. So he starts showing me
Speaker 2: his Instagram. My daughter is very beautiful. So I was like,
Speaker 2: she's probably trying to talk to my daughter and he's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: I just barely had the Kardashians on. And I'm like, then,
Speaker 2: why are you talking to us? Like we're just normal people,
Speaker 2: you know, like we're getting a sandwich. What do you want?
Speaker 2: So he says, well, you can join my group, my
Speaker 2: tour gride group, right, and let me know you're there
Speaker 2: occasionally because I can't see you at all. So you
Speaker 2: there with me, I'm here, okay. Cool? And so when
Speaker 2: people come up to you like this, you have to remember,
Speaker 2: I'm a normy at this point. She's healing from a
Speaker 2: horrible sexual assault at this point, and it wasn't somebody
Speaker 2: she knew. It wasn't like and not that that makes
Speaker 2: it any better for the people that ever get assaulted.
Speaker 1: Okay, just to give a little bit extra context there.
Speaker 1: So you were a Norman at this point? How long
Speaker 1: ago was this? How old was your daughter when she
Speaker 1: was getting over?
Speaker 2: Was herst so she would have been twenty I think
Speaker 2: this is when she's like twenty three. This has to
Speaker 2: be twenty nineteen. So when we were traveling twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, right in there, and I was total normy,
Speaker 2: like so when this man approached me, I didn't think
Speaker 2: of like things I would think of now, like is
Speaker 2: what is he doing? Like why is this happening? Because
Speaker 2: there's no coincidences in life, right, And this guy takes
Speaker 2: us on this cool tour. This is his like, this
Speaker 2: is his profile thing. This is like he's really a guide.
Speaker 2: This is him and Courtney Kardashian. So he's not full
Speaker 2: of crap and this is the stuff he's showing us, right,
Speaker 2: so you can see why I was like, you gotta go. Like,
Speaker 2: my husband's not too jealous, but he wouldn't like this situation.
Speaker 2: And so he also has been on like he's like
Speaker 2: a been on the Gladiator. He's been on like a
Speaker 2: couple shows, like actual shows, like he's like a movie
Speaker 2: star or something. So we go on this tour and
Speaker 2: it's like an off the beaten Path tour and she's
Speaker 2: already met her guy at this point that comes into
Speaker 2: you know, the whole thing. But they're just talking and
Speaker 2: he they met because he walked up to her at
Speaker 2: a crowded airport and said God told me to talk
Speaker 2: to you or I'd regret it the rest of my life. Okay,
Speaker 2: So again another weird, weird right, Like that's nowadays I
Speaker 2: would be she asked my opinion on this, and nowadays
Speaker 2: I would give a totally different answer than what I
Speaker 2: gave at that time, because now we know like people
Speaker 2: are assignments, things happen, and I know that now, but
Speaker 2: I didn't know this then. I was a Christian, but
Speaker 2: I wasn't very awake right like I wished I had been.
Speaker 2: So this is us taking this picture, and I am
Speaker 2: literally standing on this this building. See I'm on the
Speaker 2: other side. I'm on those stairs right there. This is
Speaker 2: the opposite side of it. And you can see what
Speaker 2: this is called. This is called Santa Maria Sopra Minerva,
Speaker 2: and that is because this church is built over the
Speaker 2: top of Minerva's temple ruins. And if you know anything
Speaker 2: about the story of Minerva and Medusa and all the
Speaker 2: weird things. This is just a little background on it.
Speaker 2: It shows that it's in Rome, That's where we were.
Speaker 2: The other elephant picture is mine, so you can see
Speaker 2: I'm on the other side of it, literally standing on
Speaker 2: the steps of this church, and this is inside the church,
Speaker 2: and there was renovations happening at that time, and so
Speaker 2: first of all, that's really important if you're going to
Speaker 2: upset spirits as they're tearing into the walls of this
Speaker 2: church and they're doing some weird stuff. And this church
Speaker 2: is literally above this weird underground portion for the temple.
Speaker 2: See it here. This goes down to the temple, nice
Speaker 2: black and white floor and everything. But anyways, nowadays, i'd
Speaker 2: be more awake. Wasn't awake, and she acted really weird.
Speaker 2: And I just put these in here because you can
Speaker 2: see that I'm telling the truth. Like we're all over
Speaker 2: roam and this is like the columnade and stuff there,
Speaker 2: and she's acting like really fussy on this trip, and
Speaker 2: that's super not like her, Like she's usually fun and outgoing,
Speaker 2: and she just wasn't. And you know, I but she
Speaker 2: had all these issues going on too, and she was
Speaker 2: healing from things, so you know, you just kind of
Speaker 2: let things go as a parent. You don't really freak
Speaker 2: out or nothing. Then he takes us to this underground
Speaker 2: area that goes down to these tunnels, and above it
Speaker 2: is this restaurant and this little old lady Sergey dinner
Speaker 2: and you don't get a pick what you get or anything.
Speaker 2: You just get what you get. And it was delicious,
Speaker 2: by the way, and he seems really nice. She seems
Speaker 2: really nice. Everything seemed fine. This is us with like
Speaker 2: literal pictures on the tour with this gladiator guide, and
Speaker 2: so we stay like a week. I just put these
Speaker 2: in here kind of for fun because you know, as
Speaker 2: we're talking, but she seems strange. And when we came back,
Speaker 2: this would have been for her birthday, which is in March.
Speaker 2: It's right by the equinox. Her birthday is like really
Speaker 2: close to it. And then we came home and we
Speaker 2: went on a family trip. And this family trip was
Speaker 2: in California. So we get there and when I say
Speaker 2: we were off grid, I mean we are really off grid.
Speaker 2: And I get this airbnb and it is like all
Speaker 2: ran on solar power. It's out in the middle of
Speaker 2: the woods, but it's in the red forest and we
Speaker 2: all go. This was like shortly after it was like
Speaker 2: really like in June. It was right after her birthday.
Speaker 2: We got back from Rome. We went on this trip
Speaker 2: and the guy was really strange that I rented it
Speaker 2: from and he had an owl for his profile picture.
Speaker 2: We're out in the middle of the woods and my
Speaker 2: kids are all staying. We're all going as a family
Speaker 2: to this one, whereas the other one we didn't. This
Speaker 2: is a really good picture of it. And in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night, something was trying to get in
Speaker 2: this house and I did not know what it was,
Speaker 2: but it slammed the where the top level is so
Speaker 2: loud it woke everyone up and I was like, what
Speaker 2: the heck. Not my husband, it didn't wake him up,
Speaker 2: but the kids me, we're all screaming. We think it's
Speaker 2: a bear, Like we're freaking out, and my husband's like,
Speaker 2: you gotta chill out because like, see, this is the door.
Speaker 2: So the second level is clear up in the it's
Speaker 2: far up there, and they're in this loft area that's
Speaker 2: like clear up this way, and that's where it hit.
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, there's definitely something trying there's
Speaker 2: the loft trying to get in this house. And I
Speaker 2: wake him up, I make him come out, I make
Speaker 2: him look all around with me, and there's like nothing.
Speaker 2: We didn't go outside because we were like, eh, if
Speaker 2: it's a bear, we don't want to die today. So
Speaker 2: we come back and like we're just chilling, and it
Speaker 2: was a full moon. I didn't know this. This is
Speaker 2: from a picture from one of my actual pictures. It
Speaker 2: was a full moon when we were there, which was weird.
Speaker 2: So she's acting way bad on this trip. And when
Speaker 2: that thing hit the door, she sits straight up in bed,
Speaker 2: and my little kids are there with her, and they're
Speaker 2: nine and eight, and she sits up, still asleep and goes,
Speaker 2: Minerva no and lays back down. She's not even awake.
Speaker 2: This is real. Well, you have to remember, I'm not awake,
Speaker 2: right Like, I have no idea. I have no idea
Speaker 2: about that temple we visited. I have no idea about
Speaker 2: any of this stuff yet. I just know we went
Speaker 2: to Rome, that's all. And I'm like, the kids keep
Speaker 2: saying it over and over and over again because they
Speaker 2: think it's hysterical. They think it's so funny. They don't
Speaker 2: know what it means, but they kept saying the whole trip,
Speaker 2: Minerva no. And they're like making fun of her hardcore
Speaker 2: because they're little. They're nine and you know, like nine
Speaker 2: to eight, nine and ten right in there. And she
Speaker 2: was so bad on this trip that I literally told her,
Speaker 2: like if you need a fly home, because she was
Speaker 2: a flight attendant, you can go do that, like I
Speaker 2: will take you to the nearest airport because you're on one,
Speaker 2: and I'm not about it right now. So my stepson
Speaker 2: is like going through his we call it his Jesus face,
Speaker 2: and through this serious Jesus base, which is good, but
Speaker 2: like he went to the extreme and he was like
Speaker 2: almost like Jewish Christian. He got like real crazy. He
Speaker 2: was like grown out his hair. He was like doing
Speaker 2: all this crazy stuff like only reading the Bible, wouldn't
Speaker 2: watch TV, only eating certain things. Like he was getting
Speaker 2: real wild up. And so I kept having to like
Speaker 2: travel down to the nearest city to get like supplies,
Speaker 2: other supplies than stuff I brought because he wasn't going
Speaker 2: to eat that and all this stuff. So she was
Speaker 2: super agitated with him. And usually they get along good
Speaker 2: because he's like nineteen this point or eighteen. He's older,
Speaker 2: and they are the closest ones in age other than
Speaker 2: her sister, who couldn't come well her sister. At the
Speaker 2: same time this is happening with the kids and her
Speaker 2: sitting up and saying, Minerva, no, she is in sleep
Speaker 2: paralysis at my home in Utah, and she calls me.
Speaker 2: As soon as we get service, I get this message
Speaker 2: from her that is just flipping out, like same time
Speaker 2: it has the times. I remember, we're out in the
Speaker 2: middle of like no, there's no service out there, there's
Speaker 2: nothing out there, and I'm running to town to get
Speaker 2: the stuff for him to eat, and this message comes
Speaker 2: through and she's like MoMA mom, Like she's like cry,
Speaker 2: she's hysterical. She's like my really sensitive kid to every
Speaker 2: She feels things and sees things sometimes and I just
Speaker 2: feel things. I've never been one to see anything since
Speaker 2: I was little. Because it's one time happened, it scared me.
Speaker 2: That was the end of it. And so I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: that was really weird. And then she continues to act
Speaker 2: this way the whole time. Well, all this time goes by,
Speaker 2: we come home from our vacation. I don't think anything
Speaker 2: of this. Remember I'm completely normal, like normy Normyville. Well,
Speaker 2: my daughter stranges from us in twenty twenty over this
Speaker 2: guy and she cuts us all off, says we're bad people,
Speaker 2: we're narcissists. She doesn't love us anymore, like I'm done
Speaker 2: with you people kind of thing. And then my daughter
Speaker 2: comes home one day, my second daughter, the sensitive one.
Speaker 2: She says, Mom, did you see oh, you got to
Speaker 2: beat that name out? Did you see her tattoo? And
Speaker 2: I said no, I'm blocked on everything. Why so this
Speaker 2: is her tattoo, This is Medusa. These are cherubim all
Speaker 2: around it. This is what she posted about it. Some
Speaker 2: people ask why I didn't add color or a flower
Speaker 2: or something pretty. Well, the meaning behind my tattoo isn't pretty. Medusa.
Speaker 2: Just like myself and many other women were raped, Medusa
Speaker 2: was cursed. This is how I felt after being raped,
Speaker 2: ugly and low in life. I wanted to represent how
Speaker 2: I felt in the middle of the curse, beautiful but
Speaker 2: full with snakes. And yet I also wanted a sense
Speaker 2: of strength with her. Following my Medusa, there is a
Speaker 2: guardian angel. I'm assuming this is her husband, because without
Speaker 2: my angel, I would not be here today. I remembering,
Speaker 2: I remembering wanting to be gone from the curse, but
Speaker 2: an angel kept me here. This tattoo means so much
Speaker 2: to me. I'm so blessed to be here today, to
Speaker 2: be alive, and to be a survivor. And so I
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about the church. I didn't know
Speaker 2: anything about anything until one day my husband came home
Speaker 2: shortly after she got this tattoo and I'll stop sharing.
Speaker 2: We can just chat now. And he says, Heidi, did
Speaker 2: you see did you see the check in pop up
Speaker 2: on Facebook? And I said, no, what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Let check? What are you talking about? He says, the
Speaker 2: check in it popped up today on Facebook? And I
Speaker 2: said no, I don't know. I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 2: And he's like, well, you've got to You've got to
Speaker 2: look at this. So he shows me, and it's that
Speaker 2: church that I showed you of Minerva the Sober Day Minerva.
Speaker 2: And if anybody knows the story about Medusa and Minerva,
Speaker 2: supposedly Medusa was in the church praying for Minerva. She
Speaker 2: idolized her like she was worshiping her there, and she
Speaker 2: was like one of her maidens. And then her dude
Speaker 2: comes in and caes her and gets all crazy and
Speaker 2: has to have her right then and rapes her on
Speaker 2: the floor of that temple. Well, that's where we were
Speaker 2: in Rome about We went down to that lower level
Speaker 2: where that was these ruins. But remember I didn't remember.
Speaker 2: I didn't know any of this. And at this point,
Speaker 2: I'm more awake. This is in twenty twenty when he
Speaker 2: shows me the check in and I start researching. So
Speaker 2: I found out, you know, this, this church, all this
Speaker 2: weird stuff, even the guide, even the gladiator dude that
Speaker 2: was on there, all this stuff. And then on top
Speaker 2: of it, I start researching about California because that's where
Speaker 2: we were right after where she said Irva no, and
Speaker 2: that's the state seal of that freaking state. Everything about
Speaker 2: California is also linked to Minerva. And she's literally calling
Speaker 2: out like no in the middle of the night. And
Speaker 2: so I have to tell you, like, my daughter is
Speaker 2: not the same person she was. She will say that
Speaker 2: to you. She will tell you that herself. She has
Speaker 2: said that to my mom. I don't speak to her
Speaker 2: anymore because she doesn't allow it. But I'm like the
Speaker 2: one person that would have I was the closest to her.
Speaker 2: So I think when these things sometimes come in, you know,
Speaker 2: you're the one that is going to be I'm not
Speaker 2: saying she's fully like engulfed in this. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: things attached to us sometimes, you know. And she had
Speaker 2: been opened up for this with this trauma, and then
Speaker 2: on top of it some other stuff that had been
Speaker 2: going on in her life. And so then her prince
Speaker 2: Charmine comes right up to her in the middle of
Speaker 2: a crowded airport. And then she never talks to any
Speaker 2: of us again. And she's this new person and she'll
Speaker 2: tell anyone like she tells my mom. She tells everybody
Speaker 2: like you wouldn't know me anymore. She came here, she
Speaker 2: emptied out her storage unit, and she was like prom
Speaker 2: queen and all these things. She threw everything away, all
Speaker 2: of her keepsakes that she'd kept for all this time,
Speaker 2: she threw them all away and just walked away from
Speaker 2: her life, walked away from all of us. And even
Speaker 2: when my other daughter, who is pretty sensitive, tries to
Speaker 2: talk to her and different things, she just nope, It's like,
Speaker 2: how's the sky, how's your day, how's the class, Like
Speaker 2: it's like the weather, and like you can't bring up
Speaker 2: anything with meaning at all. She cut off not only me,
Speaker 2: but she didn't see anybody from this side of the
Speaker 2: family for four years, four years, and then she finally
Speaker 2: came just barely and saw and they have free flight benefit.
Speaker 2: She's married to a pilot, so money's not the issue.
Speaker 2: She lives far away, but money and travel is not
Speaker 2: the problem. They go all over the place. But I
Speaker 2: truly believe in that moment she must have had a
Speaker 2: choice to make whenever all of that went down, and
Speaker 2: she definitely made her choice. Do I know that she's
Speaker 2: okay today? I know she's been rebaptized out of the
Speaker 2: Mormon Church into a Baptist church that I think it's
Speaker 2: Baptist that he goes to. I don't know one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: but I think her heart's probably a lot better than
Speaker 2: it was. But it worries me, like all these coincidences,
Speaker 2: all this connection, all of this stuff, and then how
Speaker 2: she changed, not only like on a mental level, but
Speaker 2: like in general everything about her is completely different. It's
Speaker 2: really weird. And so you know, when she got the
Speaker 2: tattoo about I freaked out. I was like, wow, this
Speaker 2: is nuts, Like that is that's a lot, like she
Speaker 2: has a lot of tattoos. That part didn't bring me out,
Speaker 2: but like that she would actually get that she knows,
Speaker 2: she knows nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm going to jump in here because that tattoo thing,
Speaker 1: it's like it's from what I understand, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. People will become possessed, so to speak, have
Speaker 1: an entity attachment, and depending on the type of entity,
Speaker 1: it will force them subconsciously to desire a tattoo so
Speaker 1: that it seals their spirit into the vessel. Because remember, wow,
Speaker 1: back in those days, like if you read the Old
Speaker 1: Catholic like all the stuff that demonology is founded on,
Speaker 1: they will tell you about seals and tattoos.
Speaker 2: You use the seals either coming.
Speaker 1: Or either conjured or keep an entity trapped. So I
Speaker 1: could see how this a nervous spirit as we're calling it,
Speaker 1: would want to secure its place.
Speaker 2: And it's huge. It's like her whole it's huge, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is wild to me, and especially now
Speaker 2: knowing what I know, like about Mormonism and solemonic magic
Speaker 2: and the seals, like you're talking about like one hundred
Speaker 2: percent Mormons use these, like one hundred percent Mormons use
Speaker 2: this right like they use seals all the time and
Speaker 2: the whole foundation of the church. So she already was
Speaker 2: raised up. She was my most indoctrinated child because she
Speaker 2: was the oldest, right. The others like as I got
Speaker 2: out are it's a different level. But these this, these
Speaker 2: oldest ones, it's a different it's a different thing. And
Speaker 2: when I saw that, I felt the same like you,
Speaker 2: I felt like, this is a mark on her. This
Speaker 2: is like a mark on her, you know, And it
Speaker 2: scares me because everything has changed so much. And when
Speaker 2: you read about people that are affected. Now, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying she's not her anymore, but we know that people
Speaker 2: get affected by things. We know that channeling happens. We
Speaker 2: know that things can be accepted, especially if you accept it,
Speaker 2: especially if you accepted in especially where she says an
Speaker 2: angel helped her. I'm like, okay, was that her husband
Speaker 2: or was that a literal angel? And we all know
Speaker 2: what is the devil described as sometimes right, like a cherubhim,
Speaker 2: like he was a chair right that, there's it too.
Speaker 2: Either he was a cherubim or a seraphim. That's what
Speaker 2: people say. And I know we don't one hundred percent
Speaker 2: know the answer, but like just knowing that and hearing
Speaker 2: that when I saw it, I was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: And her husband comes from I often wonder he comes
Speaker 2: from a huge banking family back East and he wouldn't
Speaker 2: get married. Yeah, he and I was getting into things
Speaker 2: like when I seen him the second time, which would
Speaker 2: have been like after that trip, like, oh, it was Halloween.
Speaker 2: It was on Halloween, and I would have been telling
Speaker 2: him things that I'm learning at this point because I'm
Speaker 2: like getting in it. I'm like, oh my gosh, like
Speaker 2: not about Medusa, none of that yet, but I'm just
Speaker 2: like learning about freemasonry, right, I'm learning about little things,
Speaker 2: little things. So I'm like, he told me, I'm never
Speaker 2: getting married anywhere but in my church in my hometown.
Speaker 2: Ever she has to come here. That's really unusual for
Speaker 2: a bride because usually the bride's family is where the
Speaker 2: wedding is, you know, like that's the tradition in I
Speaker 2: mean normally. And He's like, no, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: I'm not getting married anywhere but in my church. And
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, but it's not like Catholic or anything,
Speaker 2: like you're not you know, it's not because of he's
Speaker 2: a Catholic or something, and that's not why he's not.
Speaker 2: But I found that so odd. I found it he
Speaker 2: like systematically dismantled our whole family within six months. And
Speaker 2: that's a weird. That's weird on its own, you know,
Speaker 2: let alone this Minervaus stuff going on at the same
Speaker 2: exact time. It's like the same time. And then she
Speaker 2: had a roommate that was super into not black magic,
Speaker 2: what is it called. She was creole, you know what,
Speaker 2: who do whoo doo? Who do that kind of weird stuff.
Speaker 2: They were doing love spells for her before she met
Speaker 2: this guy, right before, and she told me about it,
Speaker 2: and I was like no. I was like, no, you
Speaker 2: can't do that. What are you doing? Why are you
Speaker 2: doing that? You want you want trouble? That's that, Like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And she was having like really
Speaker 2: bad cold spirit attacks, like in her room, like feeling
Speaker 2: cold and like weird stuff and nowhere else in the house.
Speaker 2: And I was like, you better be praying, Like I
Speaker 2: remember telling her you better be praying, like you better pray,
Speaker 2: and she was like oh. And then so when the
Speaker 2: husband comes in, the roommate is gone, just disappears out
Speaker 2: of her life. You tell me that's not in a siment.
Speaker 2: She unfriends all of us on Facebook. She unfriends everybody,
Speaker 2: the whole entire family. She unfriends the girl like my daughter,
Speaker 2: who she was best friends with for three years. They
Speaker 2: lived together and was supposed to be like her maid
Speaker 2: of honor and everything, poof, She's just gone into the
Speaker 2: night bye, Like it's weird, you know, I thought it
Speaker 2: was weird. I don't know, but it's a scary, scary situation.
Speaker 2: I think, Oh yeah, that's pretty strange. I mean to.
Speaker 1: Summon I love her, and that stuff always backfires.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's not a good idea. I'll do that.
Speaker 2: That's a bad idea. And like I said, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: she got what she wanted, Like what she always wanted
Speaker 2: was to be a mom she is, to not worry
Speaker 2: about money but she doesn't, and kind of to be
Speaker 2: taken care of, you know, and she has And she
Speaker 2: wanted a farm. She wanted a far met and she
Speaker 2: has one. And it's like everything she ever said, like
Speaker 2: minus a cow she wants. I know she wants a cow.
Speaker 2: I don't think she has that. But minus that, everything
Speaker 2: else on her list is checked. But what did she
Speaker 2: have to give up? Every single one of us? Everything else? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And when I'm telling you, like that was her brother
Speaker 2: and her brother and her member. He was like nine.
Speaker 2: He's a kid, he's like eight, and they were tight,
Speaker 2: like she helped me raise him because when she when
Speaker 2: he was little, I had cancer and so they were close,
Speaker 2: like so close, like her real child and poof just
Speaker 2: gone because he told her off one day. He was
Speaker 2: only like maybe nine when he told her off. He said, so,
Speaker 2: why are you treating our mom like this? What are
Speaker 2: you crazy? Like that's our mom? Like what is wrong
Speaker 2: with you? Like I don't care, like because she was
Speaker 2: kind of going off on me, and he's like, I
Speaker 2: don't care if if mom did something bad when you
Speaker 2: were younger or whatever. He's like, which, I mean, I
Speaker 2: was gone a lot and that makes me feel bad,
Speaker 2: but like I had a nanny. I mean I tried
Speaker 2: to do the best things I could for them, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I was gone a lot. I was the dad. I
Speaker 2: was the dad and the mom. There was no dad,
Speaker 2: you know, he took off. So I mean I do
Speaker 2: I regret absolutely, but like I can't think of anything
Speaker 2: so horrific, right, Like you try and you rack your
Speaker 2: brain forever for like a year and a half. I
Speaker 2: just racked my brain on what I could do, what
Speaker 2: I could change, what could happen on my end that
Speaker 2: I could fix this such because like you think you
Speaker 2: got to fix it, you know, but sometimes you can't.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not your deal. And it wasn't like I
Speaker 2: did everything I could like I'll go to therapy with you.
Speaker 2: I'll I'll get racked over the coals, like I'll say
Speaker 2: sorry to everybody, Like whatever you want me to do,
Speaker 2: I'll do it because I missed her so bad, you know, right,
Speaker 2: And nothing nothing, Nope, So this gets one more step weird.
Speaker 2: So one day, two days after she came home from
Speaker 2: the hospital from having a baby, she's had a baby.
Speaker 2: Now baby looks like me. And they always say, we
Speaker 2: don't know who the baby looks like. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: my mom tells them all the time, the baby looks
Speaker 2: like your mom, that that's fine whatever. She looks an
Speaker 2: awful lot like me, the daughter does. But she comes
Speaker 2: home from the hospital and she calls my mom hysterical,
Speaker 2: and we were right in the middle of having a
Speaker 2: conversation where and I wasn't like mad mad, but I
Speaker 2: just said this needs to stop now, and I just
Speaker 2: hit the table like that that was it, Like that
Speaker 2: was as mad as I got. Like we were just
Speaker 2: talking about it because we were sad about not seeing
Speaker 2: the baby and not being in the baby's life and stuff.
Speaker 2: We were just having our own talk. She wasn't on
Speaker 2: the phone yet. She calls my mom in the middle
Speaker 2: of this conversation, crying and screaming, screaming, Like I knew
Speaker 2: that scream was serious. I knew something was wrong. And
Speaker 2: of course she just had a baby and she had
Speaker 2: a c section. I was scared something bad happened, you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't know. So my mom hands me the phone
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm not supposed
Speaker 2: to talk to her. I'm trying to be respectful of
Speaker 2: her wishes. I don't know what to do, like I'm
Speaker 2: my god. So I say hello, you know, and she's like,
Speaker 2: lightning struck my house. And I'm like, what lightning struck
Speaker 2: my house? I'm like when just now? Like so in
Speaker 2: the time it took for her to call my mom,
Speaker 2: like literally, that was why we were saying it needed
Speaker 2: to stop. Lightning struck her house, hit a gas line
Speaker 2: in her house and blew her wall out and started
Speaker 2: a fire. And he ran back in and put it
Speaker 2: out because he's also a volunteer firefighter, so he ran
Speaker 2: back in there, no equipment, nothing, put it out. Good
Speaker 2: for him, that's good. I'm glad everything was fine, everybody
Speaker 2: was safe. But I found that really funny, like in
Speaker 2: an odd way, not funny. Ha ha. That lightning struck
Speaker 2: their house right as we were saying that needed to stop.
Speaker 2: And this is when I'm more awake and more like
Speaker 2: in tune. I knew everything by then, and my mom
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: didn't wish nothing bad on nobody. I just said it
Speaker 2: needed to stop, like because my son was like, Mom,
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, I'm not in that business. I
Speaker 2: don't do wishing on bad people. No, that's not for me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So lightning struck their house. It's pretty odd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty strange. I mean, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: such a thing as coincidence. Really, right right in the
Speaker 1: middle of us saying that.
Speaker 2: That was weird, I mean, this is a really compelling story.
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: I wonder.
Speaker 1: If things can never get better for her, Not necessarily
Speaker 1: between the two of you guys, but I wonder if
Speaker 1: things can never get better for her and if she
Speaker 1: really is just a goner at this point, because like,
Speaker 1: even in my private conversations with Jerry Martinski, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know him, the way he talks about
Speaker 1: how there's this element of accepting there's like a relationship
Speaker 1: between the person and the possessor the entity, and that
Speaker 1: until that relationship, that dependency goes away, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a it's.
Speaker 2: Never going to resolve itself. So I wonder, yeah, they
Speaker 2: like own you or something, right like for the until
Speaker 2: you say stop it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even then they don't even really want to go,
Speaker 1: like they'll do anything to keep you stuck in that
Speaker 1: same pattern.
Speaker 2: And I guess that's saying first it give.
Speaker 1: It is right, right, very interesting because you never know
Speaker 1: when things could just all of a sudden fall apart
Speaker 1: completely and you're completely devastating for her, Like that lightning
Speaker 1: strike is a good example.
Speaker 2: Of that, right right, Like maybe she was thinking about
Speaker 2: like connecting because I did send baby stuff and I
Speaker 2: sent a letter, but he's like the grand interceptor, like
Speaker 2: he like takes all the things. Like I wrote a
Speaker 2: big letter and told him how much I loved him
Speaker 2: and everything, and like even him, I was like, look
Speaker 2: like whatever it is, it is, but like I just
Speaker 2: want to fix it, you know, like I'm not mad.
Speaker 2: Just come home, like not come home like live here,
Speaker 2: like come back to our lives. But I also feel
Speaker 2: like we're the only things that would know if she
Speaker 2: was different all of us, because we would know we
Speaker 2: know her, we know her like real know her, we
Speaker 2: know her heart, you know, we know who she is.
Speaker 2: And my daughter and my son and everybody that saw her.
Speaker 2: First of all, it was on a timeframe. She was
Speaker 2: here for like three days and he only let him
Speaker 2: have two hours out to lunch with my mom. It
Speaker 2: was like in a restaurant, public place, timed you can
Speaker 2: take pictures, say hi, blah blah blah. That was it,
Speaker 2: and like it was very timed. And my son I
Speaker 2: was like, how was it, you know, are you happy
Speaker 2: to see her? Are you happy? You know? And he's like,
Speaker 2: because we had a decision to make in that moment.
Speaker 2: You know, we have two miners. My husband was like, nope,
Speaker 2: screw her and the horse. She wrote in on We're
Speaker 2: not sending our kids. And I'm like, okay, no, like
Speaker 2: we're not. I'm like, we get to pray about this,
Speaker 2: you know, like this is a big deal. What if
Speaker 2: they don't get to see her again for a long time,
Speaker 2: what if you know, they get to meet the baby
Speaker 2: all this stuff. So I'm like I felt different about
Speaker 2: it because he was. He's just still really mad about
Speaker 2: the fact because he's like I never did anything. I
Speaker 2: don't understand. I don't understand he got him too everybody,
Speaker 2: And I said, I don't feel like that because I
Speaker 2: don't feel like it's it's you like I did. I
Speaker 2: did feel like it was at first like we did
Speaker 2: something right, we can fix it, it's us. But then
Speaker 2: at some point you have to say, this is this
Speaker 2: is their choice for whatever reason, even if it is
Speaker 2: maybe she just does hate me, Like okay, fine, but
Speaker 2: this is still a weird story, right, Like at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, like you want them to be
Speaker 2: happy and you want them to be well adjusted. So
Speaker 2: the best thing I knew I could do for my kids,
Speaker 2: the little ones, is let them see their sister. Like
Speaker 2: that's a weird don't do that, you know, you can't
Speaker 2: like say no. So I let him go and I
Speaker 2: was like, you don't seem too happy, like are you
Speaker 2: not that happy? And he's like it was okay, I'm
Speaker 2: like why, He's like, it's just it was really regimented.
Speaker 2: It was like that, you know, and he's like it
Speaker 2: just felt weird, just felt weird. And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: that's sad. And my little one said she didn't know.
Speaker 2: She wanted to go again. If if they came back
Speaker 2: and she's only ten, and she's like, Mom, I just
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not the same and you're not
Speaker 2: there and it's sad. She's like, it's just so sad
Speaker 2: knowing that you're like right down the street and you
Speaker 2: don't get us here. And I'm like, oh, I'm fine.
Speaker 2: I just played it off. I was like, nah, I'm good,
Speaker 2: Like I want you to have fun, you know. And
Speaker 2: she's like, no, but you're our mom. You know you
Speaker 2: should be with her, like she's here her mom, like
Speaker 2: even at ten years old. She's like, I don't get it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I don't get it. But I
Speaker 2: think she made a Faustian bargain. I really do. It
Speaker 2: feels so strange, you know. I hate to say that
Speaker 2: because she's my kid and I have to tell you,
Speaker 2: like her name. She was the only one when I
Speaker 2: got married in the temple and you kneel over an
Speaker 2: altar and you look into these weird mirrors. She was
Speaker 2: in me. I was like eight and a half, almost
Speaker 2: nine months pregnant. I was far like she was due soon,
Speaker 2: like maybe three weeks, so she was there. She was
Speaker 2: within me when I'm like having this done. And actually
Speaker 2: that's where I got her name is at that time,
Speaker 2: and I always wonder, man, I'm like, what did I do?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: And I know like, I mean, I spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time trying to break things off. Even now it's
Speaker 2: it's it's a forever process. I think. Once you make oaths,
Speaker 2: which is why I'm here telling my story, don't make oaths.
Speaker 2: God says it for a reason. It's a really good
Speaker 2: idea to listen. Don't make oasts because you don't know.
Speaker 2: You don't know what you're doing. All the time. They
Speaker 2: told me that was about going to heaven. It's not
Speaker 2: solomonic magic exactly.
Speaker 1: These vows and stuff, they really they really exist. We
Speaker 1: really take a toll on you. They really bind you
Speaker 1: to certain circumstances and situations for forever if you don't
Speaker 1: know how to break it.
Speaker 2: I read, yeah, I read.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I just read it. I studied a
Speaker 1: book called The Grand Keys of Solomon. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody else has read this, but it's three parts,
Speaker 1: it's a tome. It's a lot to go through. And
Speaker 1: I just didn't like how I felt, well, I was
Speaker 1: studying it, but I was trying to get familiar with
Speaker 1: the information because I felt like it was relevant to
Speaker 1: the path that I'm on. And it's a lot of
Speaker 1: dark stuff, Like there's really people out there that you know,
Speaker 1: and I want.
Speaker 2: To breakface this.
Speaker 1: There's people that are going to listen to this and
Speaker 1: they don't agree with Christianity, they don't agree with a
Speaker 1: new Age, they don't agree with even the concept that
Speaker 1: state In exists or Lucifer exists. Like there's going to
Speaker 1: be they're just green that are going to hear this
Speaker 1: and they're going to have all kinds of ideas, and
Speaker 1: that's fine.
Speaker 2: But the reality is.
Speaker 1: That there are people out there that believe that these
Speaker 1: things work, and whether it's real or not, it is
Speaker 1: their belief alone that appears to make these things work
Speaker 1: and make these entities manifest.
Speaker 2: And it's a serious thing. It's nothing to be played with.
Speaker 2: I want and this since you mentioned the Keys of Solomon,
Speaker 2: this has nothing to do with my with Mormon, well
Speaker 2: with Minerva, but it has to do with Mormons. I
Speaker 2: want to show you what I found this week. Maybe
Speaker 2: this was why I was supposed to see it.
Speaker 1: Now right, I'll just continue talking will you look for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this kind of of manipulation of energy and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It is some of the darkest stuff. And even when
Speaker 1: I was reading it, it's like things would happen around
Speaker 1: me that weren't good that I just like, I wasn't
Speaker 1: living in this house. I was living overseas in a
Speaker 1: house in Pennsylvania, and like the cat died and all
Speaker 1: kinds of weird stuff like under weird circumstances and stuff.
Speaker 1: Well it was real, and this sound was like I
Speaker 1: really wonder if something didn't reach in and just like.
Speaker 2: Clop this cat.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the cat looked like the cat looked
Speaker 1: like it's been Yeah, the cat looks like he'd been
Speaker 1: bludding to death basically.
Speaker 2: And then it was an inside cat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, what could I have attacked this cat,
Speaker 1: you know, right inside the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all kinds of weird stuff went on.
Speaker 1: I'll just leave that example there. But this stuff isn't
Speaker 1: anything to be played with. And when you're looking at
Speaker 1: like you trade, when you get really curious and really honest,
Speaker 1: because that has the key component here, and just read
Speaker 1: stop looking for this stuff on the internet, because the
Speaker 1: internet is not going to give you all the right
Speaker 1: information all the time. You have to read books, books,
Speaker 1: and you usually have to read a lot of them
Speaker 1: to find and where things line up and lead you
Speaker 1: in the right direction. But you know, the Rothschild family
Speaker 1: is a real thing, you know, and they control a
Speaker 1: lot of these religions and stuff go back to them,
Speaker 1: and they're laying with freemasonry and stuff like that. And
Speaker 1: now there's this weird, weird thing on the Internet where
Speaker 1: there's like sympathy for Freemasonry, and it's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: just the people that you feel sympathetic towards. They don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on because they're not of that kind
Speaker 1: of spirit that they're going to get told to go
Speaker 1: up to this level or that level or whatever. But
Speaker 1: there's other things going on. It's I describe it as
Speaker 1: being like a hallway with many doors, and whichever room
Speaker 1: your personality and your level of morality suits, they'll call
Speaker 1: you into that door. And then there'll be hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of other people that don't know because they just
Speaker 1: don't they're.
Speaker 2: Not suitable for that. So there's darkness afoot.
Speaker 1: There's evil, seriously in this world, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff like this that you're saying that it's People
Speaker 1: have no idea how common this stuff is.
Speaker 2: This is a real thing that you're going through. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're going to show Can you see that? Can you
Speaker 2: see this? It's pulled up on the screen.
Speaker 1: I think I need to exit and I have to
Speaker 1: add you add that screen, Bagon, Can I add it?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: You go?
Speaker 2: Okay, So here is the the parchment that the founder
Speaker 2: of the Mormon Church had on him his death. You'll
Speaker 2: recognize it because you've studied what I've studied. And this
Speaker 2: talisman is also what he wore when always it was
Speaker 2: always on his body. This is a copy of that
Speaker 2: talisman up close, and the back of it's different, but
Speaker 2: that's the that's the third seal of Jupiter ear thor
Speaker 2: pentacal ocuputer. And then also this is what is on
Speaker 2: that parchment right there, And this is commanding spirits and
Speaker 2: I just barely learned about this, and these are the
Speaker 2: spirits that are on that parchment as well. And he
Speaker 2: was directly working with Raphael. And if you notice when
Speaker 2: it was on that parchment, it's not in a circle,
Speaker 2: so it's not bound. That means he's working directly with it.
Speaker 2: With those entities, and this is the founder of that church.
Speaker 2: When I went to read the Seals of Solomon, the
Speaker 2: Greater and Lesser Keys, I found them and look who
Speaker 2: uploaded him the Greater Key of Solomon digitized by Brigham
Speaker 2: Young University, by Mormon College, And I was like, what
Speaker 2: in the heck? And this is their new seal for
Speaker 2: their priesthood. Yeah, and they call it the seal. They
Speaker 2: literally call it the sale of Melkezidic. And again it's
Speaker 2: not in a circle.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I found that really interesting with the Solomonic aspect of things, like,
Speaker 2: that's wild to me.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I thought you might find that interesting because I
Speaker 2: just barely learned about it. I was studying this world. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's Solomonic. I just thought it was Masonic. I didn't
Speaker 2: know like all that. But you know that that that's
Speaker 2: the kind of stuff you're taking os for in the
Speaker 2: temple like that, Yeah, precisely, precisely.
Speaker 1: And other dangesting is the way that people reference King
Speaker 1: Solomon as a hero because maybe the Bible told him
Speaker 1: now or whatever, but Solomon isn't who they say he is.
Speaker 1: It is scary all this information as well, even when
Speaker 1: you read when you read the Keys of Solomon, there
Speaker 1: there actually is no proof that and as a real
Speaker 1: human being either someone like they refer to him as
Speaker 1: though he's a deity itself, like maybe a demigod or
Speaker 1: some kind of thing like that.
Speaker 2: Well, you have something to control them all, like he
Speaker 2: controlled them all. Like and I know they talk about
Speaker 2: the Ring and people are going to hear this, and
Speaker 2: that new show came out, the Lord of the Ring show.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it yet, but I've already got messages
Speaker 2: from a bunch of people like do you see this stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't have to watch it to
Speaker 2: know what that's gonna be, like talking about dripping blood. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like you already. No, No, I'm not watching any
Speaker 2: of that stuff. I just don't care. I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that you can describe it to me. I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what it is. But all these people are so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: They're so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yea, they actually think they can consciously watch this stuff
Speaker 1: just because they know a little bit of something and
Speaker 1: it's not going to affect them. From idiots, y'all are
Speaker 1: freaking stupid. It's gonna say it. Whatever goes into your
Speaker 1: subconscious mind acts on you, against you.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. When they told me just one scene,
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'm good, I'm okay. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm okay. I'm like I want to watch that. That's
Speaker 2: uns terrifying. Like what he's got his hand open, bleeding
Speaker 2: on stuff in a circle sounds familiar? No, thank you.
Speaker 1: I was like, uhh, exactly. Yeah, there's the number one
Speaker 1: one of the number one themes. That's one of the
Speaker 1: number one themes that's recurring in a lot of television,
Speaker 1: even non Hollywood produced films. It's just the same thing,
Speaker 1: the same repetitive stuff, over and over, conjuring of the rings.
Speaker 2: And rings as the one ring to rule them all, right,
Speaker 2: Like you know, yeah, And I'll tell you a quick
Speaker 2: story that's relevant to the new thing.
Speaker 1: When I was about eighteen years old, I used to
Speaker 1: hang out with a guy's I fuck him.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna like believe this out. His name
Speaker 2: was Ryan, and.
Speaker 1: We all knew him his nickname the Satan, and he
Speaker 1: had a ring that he wore and if he took
Speaker 1: his ring off, he would lose his mind. And the
Speaker 1: inside of the ring had an inscription. And I really
Speaker 1: believe that he had gamons and stuff in it because
Speaker 1: when he he would take this ring off before he
Speaker 1: wanted to do anything bad, and he used to do
Speaker 1: a lot of bad stuff, like criminal stuff, and we
Speaker 1: did we actually didn't even realize that what was that
Speaker 1: that was what he was doing until it was too
Speaker 1: late we found out that he was doing.
Speaker 2: But he would just lie and manipulate people and.
Speaker 1: Have like sex orgies and stuff like that, and you know,
Speaker 1: we just thought he was a normal guy. We just
Speaker 1: thought he was a little wacky or whatever. And he
Speaker 1: was into like we thought he was just weird because
Speaker 1: he was into like heavy metal music and stuff. He'd
Speaker 1: be wearing like a Disturbed T shirt with anybody that's
Speaker 1: into Disturbed music, you know. And they had one album
Speaker 1: called Billy, But it's a combination of all of the
Speaker 1: symbols like Star of David and all that stuff all
Speaker 1: made into one symbol. And it's also not inside of
Speaker 1: the circle either. So it's like, you know, people, we
Speaker 1: don't understand exactly how deep in the shit we are
Speaker 1: when it comes to this demonic influence. These entities just
Speaker 1: running loose looking for people to jump on, and he
Speaker 1: was full of it. I just recently reconnected with someone
Speaker 1: who was the little sister of this Ryan guy's girlfriend,
Speaker 1: and I remember his girlfriend used to lose it. She
Speaker 1: would lose her freaking line too, and she was into
Speaker 1: witchcraft of the dark kind, and she would have like
Speaker 1: seizures and all kinds of crazy stuff. I remember having
Speaker 1: to go over there once or twice to help the
Speaker 1: little sister just like take her away from the house
Speaker 1: because some crazy stuff was going on. Yeah, this story
Speaker 1: with your daughter reminds me of my sister. My mother
Speaker 1: told me a story when I was really young. I
Speaker 1: guess back then it was just a story for me,
Speaker 1: but she told me that my sister never actually write
Speaker 1: after the age of seven, because she came home one
Speaker 1: evening and found her in the living room pretending to
Speaker 1: play school, and she had these rulers and she was
Speaker 1: like pretend beating the crap out of all the students
Speaker 1: in the classroom, the so called classroom, And my mother
Speaker 1: asked her why she did it, and she said, Pernicia
Speaker 1: made me do it. And my mother was like, who
Speaker 1: the hell is Paranicia? And Brnicia was her imaginary friend.
Speaker 1: And back then they lived in a house that was
Speaker 1: it was in like nineteen eighty and they lived in
Speaker 1: a house that was My mother would swear that this
Speaker 1: house was haunted because one night she got up to
Speaker 1: go for a glass of water and something pushed her
Speaker 1: really hard, right into a glass table. This was right
Speaker 1: around the time that my sister was talking to imaginary
Speaker 1: friends and stuff like that. But they eventually left the
Speaker 1: house and came to this house that well, not this house,
Speaker 1: but house next to. My family asked two houses one day,
Speaker 1: see both of our side by side, i should say,
Speaker 1: And then they eventually moved into this house and that's
Speaker 1: where they lived. But when they left that house, Bernicia
Speaker 1: went away, all the imaginary friend talk went away, and
Speaker 1: all the spooky stuff stopped happening.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good, right, So that tells you a lot.
Speaker 1: But my mother swears that there's wanting influence that took
Speaker 1: over my sister, that changed her forever, because my sisters
Speaker 1: give us trouble for like twenty something years until she
Speaker 1: finally moved away, got away from us. Actually, we asked
Speaker 1: her to get away from us. She didn't move my choice.
Speaker 1: We were like, you've just got to go.
Speaker 2: That's trouble from you.
Speaker 1: She was just really evil things. She was always drawn
Speaker 1: to really evil things. The kind of movies that she
Speaker 1: liked to watch were always the really evil things, and
Speaker 1: she seemed to get.
Speaker 2: Joy out of the suffering of other people.
Speaker 1: If she I remember there was a movie I can't
Speaker 1: remember if it's a Johnny Depp movie or what it is,
Speaker 1: The Ninth Gate or something like that, and I remember
Speaker 1: she really loved that movie when it came out. She
Speaker 1: loved like the the cover art and everything. She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this looks so good. And I was like, Okay, something's
Speaker 1: wrong with you. Anything that had like the Devil's titled,
Speaker 1: like any anything referencing the devil or demons or anything
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: She was all over it all the time. And it
Speaker 2: was really really strange. She was She's a that's what
Speaker 2: she was. She's she's a demon for sure.
Speaker 1: Carry even like I remember noticing it from when I
Speaker 1: was like thirteen fourteen years old. She always had a
Speaker 1: particular smell, like sulfur on her body all the time.
Speaker 1: She spells smells really bad like egg, rotten egg. Oh no, yeah,
Speaker 1: rotten eggs. Yeah, it's definitely not good.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I just think I can see
Speaker 2: it you know, people people play with things they shouldn't
Speaker 2: and sometimes even like like, okay, Joseph Smith, I showed
Speaker 2: you what he had on him, But what did he
Speaker 2: say visited him? Right? Like an angel? He didn't say
Speaker 2: a demon. But like they they fake it, they fake it.
Speaker 2: And if you know the true story, Joseph Smith couldn't
Speaker 2: have seen an angel because the guy was supposedly a
Speaker 2: real person. Once, that's not an angel, that's necromancy. You're
Speaker 2: talking to a dead guy, Like, that's not an angel.
Speaker 2: That's different. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you do your research and you actually find
Speaker 1: information that suggests that Joseph Smith was talking to demons.
Speaker 2: Again, didn't he go to graveyards or something like that?
Speaker 2: I think he did. He was a treasure digger supposedly.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and there was you know a lot of
Speaker 2: creepy stuff that happening around him that people don't talk about,
Speaker 2: Like his brother mysteriously died of constipation and had an
Speaker 2: overdose of medication from it. And he was the oldest son,
Speaker 2: so that right there was weird. Then Joseph has a
Speaker 2: baby right after he supposedly talks to this angel and
Speaker 2: gets all these plates that he's you know doing his
Speaker 2: baby is born and has horrific birth defects and they
Speaker 2: name it the dead brother's name, and it dies within
Speaker 2: minutes and it's like all birth defect like problems and stuff,
Speaker 2: and like, so two of the firstborn sons dead. And
Speaker 2: then what happens. He gets everything he's wanted, like, I mean,
Speaker 2: he comes right, I mean, he ends up running for
Speaker 2: president of the United States. Yeah, he gets martyred. Later
Speaker 2: makes you wonder, like why I did get later? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: when you check it. Charles T. Russell was kind of
Speaker 2: like on the same thing. He had similar.
Speaker 1: Things that happened, like talking to anti tees and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And there we have it, Jehovah's witnesses and
Speaker 1: people actually think something good.
Speaker 2: But it's just the other called Mohammed. Mohammed. I always say, listen,
Speaker 2: Mohammed was speaking to spirits, Gabriel supposedly, right, and then
Speaker 2: we've got what Crowley speaking to aliens. He's got the Lima,
Speaker 2: we got John d speaking to everybody. He was speaking
Speaker 2: to all the dead people. He's up here, and a
Speaker 2: lot of things came from him. I mean tons of
Speaker 2: things came from him, you know, including the Enoki and alphabet,
Speaker 2: So you know, he lays this stuff out, but it's
Speaker 2: you know, Croley's not special, He's not special. Parsons out
Speaker 2: in the desert. They all paid a price too. It
Speaker 2: was always sexual in nature. It either starts up with
Speaker 2: polygamy or they swap wives, or they're doing some weird stuff,
Speaker 2: like every single time, every single time, God doesn't require that.
Speaker 2: Do you think God had come down and be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: swap wives. No, that's weird. No, He's not going to
Speaker 2: require that sexual will sin to make it happen, Like
Speaker 2: that's weird. So every one of them, Yeah, so Jehovah's yeah,
Speaker 2: witnesses if they have a sin associated with theirs.
Speaker 1: But I can't remember a lot of this stuff. And
Speaker 1: there's just so much stuff to memorize that it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm going to remember all this stuff.
Speaker 1: By the time I'm dead, I won't remember any of this.
Speaker 1: But he's read it anyway, you know, I just read
Speaker 1: it because.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll be extra goodbye then. But like, it's weird
Speaker 2: that they all have almost the same story.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's and it's all coming from the
Speaker 1: rothschild infiltrated Satan is something, you know, like they Lucifer
Speaker 1: worship and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird out well, and it goes far back
Speaker 2: into the kabbala and Jewish mysticism and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: Like I talked to a guy about that. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: so crazy. I'm like what, But he didn't want to
Speaker 2: talk to me about Mormons. I'll tell you that right now.
Speaker 2: You don't want to talk about that. We talked about
Speaker 2: like things around it, but he didn't want to talk
Speaker 2: about that. Kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of my very best friends was raised in
Speaker 1: the Mormon religion and stuff, and her mother kind of
Speaker 1: woke up and tried to get him out of it,
Speaker 1: not without her getting raped as little girl. But you know, man,
Speaker 1: it seems to be a common thing that happens in
Speaker 1: the Mormon could then people just don't talk about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're starting to. They're starting to come out and
Speaker 2: talk about it. And that's where it makes you wonder,
Speaker 2: like the brother died of constipation, Like, oh, what did
Speaker 2: they do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not they did.
Speaker 1: But that dullion of constipation story is a common threat too, though,
Speaker 1: because you will see there's a lot of celebrities, that
Speaker 1: guy of Constallation as well too, and they were really successful.
Speaker 2: Then one day you just can't shit anymore.
Speaker 4: And that's suspicious, you know, that means something happened. Probably, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it sounds almost like there's some kind of a ritual
Speaker 4: that occurs there and that's just the cover story for it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Makes you wonder like how they killed, how they killed
Speaker 1: Chris Cornell and Tester Bennikin and stuff like that with
Speaker 1: the blood el sacrifice yep, all that kind of too.
Speaker 2: And that chef guy whatever his name is, Chef Anthony Bourdein.
Speaker 2: They all died the same way, yeah, Anthony Boarding Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Kate Stade the purse maker as she did the same way,
Speaker 2: like all around the same time. But yet they had
Speaker 2: broken bones. I mean, you're going to beat the shit
Speaker 2: out of yourself before you off yourself. Like really, that
Speaker 2: sounds like a great idea. Broken ribs everything. Chris Cornell's
Speaker 2: was really suspect. He had a lot of broken ribs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, David Bowie was really suspicious too, And then
Speaker 1: after he dies, what album gets released Black Star and
Speaker 1: right on. There is just so much symbolism and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and can we Prince died and all that
Speaker 1: stuff too.
Speaker 2: Oh prince singing about dying in an elevator and he
Speaker 2: dies in an elevator. Yeah, broke his hip before it happened.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, he just broke his hip that week, they say,
Speaker 1: and he went to the hospital for medication. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. They'll beat that man. He'll beat that
Speaker 1: tiny little man.
Speaker 2: All of them makes you really step back and go, WHOA,
Speaker 2: what's happening here? It all goes back to nWo type stuff,
Speaker 2: like every single bit of it, and all the religions
Speaker 2: do too, by the way, like they're all a big
Speaker 2: part of it. Not that God's part of it. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, at some point, God gets corrupted in those
Speaker 2: hearts of those men. Anytime you put your faith in men,
Speaker 2: I promise you'll be disappointed, Like you have to put
Speaker 2: your faith somewhere else, because I don't. I don't do
Speaker 2: that anymore. That's not for me, you know. Yeah, pool
Speaker 2: me once, fool me once. Come on. Now, I'm okay
Speaker 2: over here. I'm okay over here. Like nah, I don't
Speaker 2: trust any of them anymore, especially after learning some things
Speaker 2: this week, and I'm like, where are your shareholdings, Mormon Church,
Speaker 2: top ten, Tesla, Apple, all of them are like, like completely,
Speaker 2: they're just all in together. Elon Musk's top dude is
Speaker 2: Jared Birchall, who is Mormon, and then one of the
Speaker 2: top ten holdings of the Mormon Church is Tesla. I
Speaker 2: think they're number ten. Apple's like number one. And by
Speaker 2: the way, United Healthcare Systems uhs, which I'm just like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: wonder they've pushed that one thing in twenty twenty, got it? Gotcha? Yeah,
Speaker 2: And now we know why.
Speaker 1: Point pointing thing. I think where you're going down that
Speaker 1: line to.
Speaker 2: I think H. G.
Speaker 1: Wells actually talks about religion and the technocracy in one
Speaker 1: of his books a while ago. He like ties it
Speaker 1: all together too. I can't remember, Like I told you,
Speaker 1: I read so much stuff. It's like I can't even
Speaker 1: remember all of it.
Speaker 2: And then trying to find that one you know me,
Speaker 2: I like to read because it's really not online, and
Speaker 2: they'll change it if they want to. They'll change it
Speaker 2: that they can go in. That's why they want everything digitized,
Speaker 2: so they can just delete, you know. And even books
Speaker 2: are affected by like the what do you call it?
Speaker 2: When things are weird? What is that. Yes, I totally
Speaker 2: think that's a thing because I've seen some of the well,
Speaker 2: I know some verses that have been affected because I've
Speaker 2: talked to John Kerwin and he talks about the lion
Speaker 2: and the lamb, and I remember that. I'm old enough
Speaker 2: that I know it was the lion and the lamb,
Speaker 2: but it isn't anymore. It's the wolf, the wolf and
Speaker 2: the lamb. No, it wasn't. The lion has always been
Speaker 2: representative of Christ always, and now you got a wolf there,
Speaker 2: and I'm going, wait a minute, what. It was definitely
Speaker 2: the lion, though I remember that too. It was the lion.
Speaker 2: It's representative, like he's he's the king, right, like this
Speaker 2: is what we've always And then I'm like a wolf what?
Speaker 2: And then but other people remember it differently and they
Speaker 2: mandela the shit out of me on that one. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess, but I think it was
Speaker 2: the lion, but it's not. I found even my oldest
Speaker 2: Bible says the wolf, and I'm like, ahh, that's a
Speaker 2: really old bible. I'm like, okay, that's weird. That's why
Speaker 2: we're supposed to memorize these things, even if you can't
Speaker 2: remember what book gets from or whatever, you have the knowledge.
Speaker 2: That's why we're supposed to have knowledge. That's why we're
Speaker 2: supposed to do that, because they can do what they want. Money, magic,
Speaker 2: all kinds of magic. People don't believe in magic.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 1: It's everywhere, there is everything. You just kind of have
Speaker 1: to look for the light side of things. I think
Speaker 1: this whole world that we live in is basically magical,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Don't believe in that. A lot of people say it's
Speaker 2: no such thing, and I'm like, okay, maybe, yeah.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if that's that people are just freaking dumb,
Speaker 1: because That's where I'm at with it now. I think
Speaker 1: that most people are just really dumb and they actually
Speaker 1: do not care as long as they get to go
Speaker 1: home and watch their TV and drink their coffee and
Speaker 1: drink their alcohol and sit around and be lazy.
Speaker 2: You know, I just worked too hard.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to think about I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to think about how I'm being mind
Speaker 1: controlled after working first.
Speaker 2: You know, It's true, they don't want to. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: get it. I try to tell people something sometimes and
Speaker 2: they're like, why does it matter. Like I try to
Speaker 2: tell my stepdad about the Mandela, and I said, how
Speaker 2: does the end of We Are the Champions? And and
Speaker 2: I told him the song and then he's like, he
Speaker 2: said the right verse, you know. And then he's like
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, it ends like this, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it doesn't anymore. And he's like, yes, it does. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, it doesn't. And so I was trying
Speaker 2: to explain it to him and he goes, who cares,
Speaker 2: I'm scared me because he knows music. Yeah, he knows music.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to hear it exactly. That's how people act. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, that's that's my biggest problem. That
Speaker 1: is the biggest problem on the planet. It's not that
Speaker 1: anything is being done to us, is that the majority
Speaker 1: of us are too stupid to allow any kind of
Speaker 1: freedom in their lives. Like the word freedom this kind
Speaker 1: of implies freedom all the way, Like empowerment only comes
Speaker 1: through taking responsibility for yourself.
Speaker 2: But it's just too hard. It's too hard for the
Speaker 2: average person. Oh, and I think, like you said, they're
Speaker 2: just happy. Like he was busy, he was mownislawn or something,
Speaker 2: and he was like, I don't. I don't have time
Speaker 2: for your nonsense, right, And I'm like, well, what if
Speaker 2: it's not nonsense? What if this is important? You know,
Speaker 2: like what if it changed your bible that you care about?
Speaker 2: And he's like it did not. I'm like, well, I
Speaker 2: guess I better not tell him.
Speaker 1: I was like, for him, you can mow your lawn
Speaker 1: and self reflect too, but they don't want to hear that.
Speaker 2: You didn't want to hear that. He definitely was weird
Speaker 2: it out he and he knows like he knows because
Speaker 2: he's like, so one day there's this and one day
Speaker 2: there's that. Oh well, and like I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you're you recognize it, you saw it. You know
Speaker 2: I'm telling the truth. And he's like, no, you know,
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to It scares him. I honestly think
Speaker 2: for him, it scares him. He doesn't want to deal
Speaker 2: with that process like that that could be possible that
Speaker 2: they could mess with lyrics, or that could be possible
Speaker 2: that they could mess with whatever. You know, right, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, you can go back, like even in live shows,
Speaker 2: it'll change everywhere, Like on the Mandela John has gone
Speaker 2: back and showed things where it was like a live concert,
Speaker 2: and this happened and it didn't happen now and now
Speaker 2: it's like gone, like that word or that phrase or whatever,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what blew my mind? I didn't even
Speaker 2: know that that could happen. Like I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's weird because at first I thought they fix like
Speaker 2: what's current, you know what I mean, like currently, But no,
Speaker 2: they can fix other things. So then go backwards. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: It's just oh, it just pisses me off.
Speaker 1: Height I just have never been the personality type to
Speaker 1: just sit there and take something just because it just
Speaker 1: bothers me.
Speaker 2: Same, I always speak out, but then people think you're nuts.
Speaker 2: So I guess I'm a little nuts. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I still keep talking. I'm like, that's what they
Speaker 2: get to know, and then it makes you. Hopefully we'll
Speaker 2: drive enough people toward reading or studying things for themselves
Speaker 2: and they can see what we see. Maybe hopefully that's
Speaker 2: what I hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, just to get back on topic before we
Speaker 1: wrap this up, So what would you say to parents
Speaker 1: that find themselves in a similar situation where like something
Speaker 1: obviously happens with their child and they don't want to
Speaker 1: have a relationship.
Speaker 2: With them anymore, but they know that they didn't do
Speaker 2: anything wrong.
Speaker 1: Like maybe it's a narcissist, which I think are demonic spirit.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, Yeah it could be. You know, it
Speaker 2: could be. First you really do have to examine yourself.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think anytime somebody abruptly ends a relationship,
Speaker 2: especially a kid or like vice versa, like with parents, whatever,
Speaker 2: because that's like your core people, if you're willing to
Speaker 2: cut you know, your arm off basically, like that's like
Speaker 2: an arm of yourself. Like there's got to be something
Speaker 2: that's very very serious going on. And people always say, well,
Speaker 2: she probably was abusive, She probably was this. She probably
Speaker 2: you know, if you're the mom, especially, you're going to
Speaker 2: get that. You're going to get like, oh they deserve it,
Speaker 2: then she must be a bad mom. Dah da dah.
Speaker 2: And you know what, for a year, I played that game.
Speaker 2: For a year, I played that game in my mind
Speaker 2: like maybe I am a narcissist. One time, this doctor
Speaker 2: at work. I was talking to this doctor and he goes, Heidi,
Speaker 2: I can tell you why you're not a narcissist. He
Speaker 2: started laughing and I was like, don't laugh, it's serious,
Speaker 2: Like what, and he's like, narcissists don't ask if they're
Speaker 2: a narcissist. He's like, if you're asking, then you're you're
Speaker 2: concerned about it, and they don't care. They will never
Speaker 2: ask themselves that question because they don't want to know
Speaker 2: that answer. I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, so yes, I
Speaker 2: think you know, you got to look at yourself. You
Speaker 2: got to do some self work, for sure. But then
Speaker 2: if you've done everything within your power, right, you've done
Speaker 2: all the stuff, you've reached out, you've tried, you have
Speaker 2: ez like exhausted every effort that you can think of,
Speaker 2: and it's still not getting anywhere, then we have to
Speaker 2: look at the story of the Prodigal Sun. And I
Speaker 2: think that's in there for a reason because, right it
Speaker 2: teaches us to wait, which I hate because I'm very
Speaker 2: much like, I'm just gonna go there. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: go there. I'm gonna drive there, I'm gonna show up
Speaker 2: on a doorstep, I'm gonna tell them, and then I'm
Speaker 2: like and then I'm gonna look crazy. And so I
Speaker 2: prayed about it, prayed about it every time I get
Speaker 2: a no, Nope, you're not driving there, Nope, you're not
Speaker 2: going there. Nope, you're not going to do that. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that sucks because I'm very like head
Speaker 2: on person, like I want to like an attempt to
Speaker 2: fix it head on, but every time I got a
Speaker 2: know on that. So I'm like, pray, wait, think, and
Speaker 2: get curses off of your life. That's like the main
Speaker 2: like try and get them off of your life, because
Speaker 2: you can't do anything about theirs. If it is an attachment,
Speaker 2: pray against it. But like, ultimately, like you said, right
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it has to be
Speaker 2: them that chooses, like that cut off has to come
Speaker 2: from somewhere better than me because it's their choice.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: If you're letting something in your life, you can't get
Speaker 2: rid of that for them. That's why we have to
Speaker 2: teach our kids to stand on their own feet. But
Speaker 2: I do say, I always leave my door open. I
Speaker 2: will never shut my door. I will never shut my
Speaker 2: door and say you can't come home, or you can't
Speaker 2: call me, or you can't see me. I'll never do
Speaker 2: to her what she's doing to me because it's sick,
Speaker 2: and it's a sickness almost because you don't get better
Speaker 2: that way. If you're angry at someone, You're going to
Speaker 2: be angry at them until you talk to them and
Speaker 2: resolve the problem. You don't resolve anything with silence. That
Speaker 2: just doesn't work. And so if you can communicate, try it.
Speaker 2: If you can do it with somebody impartial, probably better idea.
Speaker 2: You know, therapy, I go back and forth on I
Speaker 2: think it's best to make sure the person is in
Speaker 2: your best interests because a lot of times now paid
Speaker 2: therapists like a paid person in your life, like somebody
Speaker 2: that has a gain to get. Make sure they're doing
Speaker 2: it for the right reasons because just like doctors that
Speaker 2: keep people sick sometimes that too, right, they want to
Speaker 2: be the person if they step in and say, kick
Speaker 2: your mom out of your life forever, then now you're
Speaker 2: going to your therapist for everything. So I mean it
Speaker 2: kind is a moneymaker there, so be careful, right, be
Speaker 2: careful of advice. But that goes on both sides of
Speaker 2: that story. But like also protect you have to always
Speaker 2: protect yourself because what if she does have that and
Speaker 2: she came back tomorrow. You know what if you know,
Speaker 2: my stinch to her is bad because I'm trying to
Speaker 2: live this good path now, Like they say that, they
Speaker 2: say that you know, believers will be hated like the
Speaker 2: minute they come in a room. And sometimes I feel that, dude,
Speaker 2: Like sometimes you can feel that on people. And so
Speaker 2: sometimes you can just only pray. But a journal I prayed,
Speaker 2: I went to the scriptures. I just try to do
Speaker 2: what I can do within my power and give the
Speaker 2: rest to God, because you can't. You cannot force it.
Speaker 2: If you try, you're gonna look psychotic. So force is
Speaker 2: not of God anyways. Honestly, forces control isn't God's. God
Speaker 2: doesn't control like that, Like, that's not a thing. That's
Speaker 2: why we have free choice. So I can only hope.
Speaker 2: I have hope, and I will ever give that up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and love and I can love her from a bar.
Speaker 2: That's all I can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And what I'll say to a lot of parents
Speaker 1: out there that I might be listening is like, sometimes
Speaker 1: you do everything right. Sometimes you do everything the right way,
Speaker 1: like you've made all the right choices as best as
Speaker 1: you could, and your kid still turns into psychopath and
Speaker 1: doesn't like you. I've been through it, So sometimes you
Speaker 1: can't control it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes and usually it's under the influence of someone else
Speaker 1: or something else, And there's nothing you could do about it.
Speaker 1: As hard as that might be to hear for a
Speaker 1: lot of people, because I'm sure there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that are going through this or something similar, there's
Speaker 1: nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 2: Yep, you just got to work on yourself, work on yourself,
Speaker 2: pray for everyone. And like for my granddaughter, I did
Speaker 2: start a journal for her just because I want her
Speaker 2: to know, like, I would never choose, like someday that's
Speaker 2: going to be a question, right like where were you?
Speaker 2: Like what happened to you? Dumb lady like, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to be like, no, no, I didn't want to
Speaker 2: do this. So here's this because I want her to
Speaker 2: know that would never be my decision to stay away,
Speaker 2: because I just wouldn't do that. So alas I have
Speaker 2: that to give to her, she ever does seek me out,
Speaker 2: which most often happens, so yeah, yeah can help. All right,
Speaker 2: WELLI I gotta get out of here. Thank you, Thanks
Speaker 2: you very much for having me on. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 2: of course I understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for being on Bonus Authenticity Podcast. I hope
Speaker 1: you'll come back sometime soon. Tell everybody where they can
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