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<v Speaker 1>Boundless Authenticity Podcast. Welcome back to Boundless Authenticity.

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<v Speaker 2>Today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joined by a friend, Heidi, who happens to be

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<v Speaker 1>the host of Unfiltered Rice podcast as well as a

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<v Speaker 1>cult survivor and a truth speaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Howdy Heidi, Hi, I'm so happy to be back and

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<v Speaker 2>chat with you. You are my friend. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 2>to have met you and back to talk about some

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<v Speaker 2>weird stuff. Man, this is my weird little story about

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<v Speaker 2>my kid. We were talking about kids and so this

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<v Speaker 2>will fit right in. But yeah, yeah, so have I

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<v Speaker 2>have a presentation when we're ready? Yeah? Yeah, me too today,

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<v Speaker 2>me too. Go ahead and get started. Oh all right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll go into let me sure, and then anything

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<v Speaker 2>you want to stop me at, like, just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to interrupt me, I don't. I don't like wait until

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<v Speaker 2>the end because I'll forget what I was saying. There

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<v Speaker 2>we go, and I'm going to minimize after that's done.

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<v Speaker 2>Hippy ah, So this slide show here, can you see

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<v Speaker 2>my sight's coming up? There? We are? Can you see that? Okay? Whoop?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't hear you. I hope you can hear me there?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you see that? Okay? Yeah? Alliforn Yeah, okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>I put this in here because funny enough, the great

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<v Speaker 2>Seal of California is Minerva. And this goes right along

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<v Speaker 2>with my story about my daughter. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people ask me like, well, why does that have anything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with your daughter, and I'm like, well, let

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<v Speaker 2>me tell you a little story about this. So and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they might be slightly out of order, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay. We went to Italy and we went to

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<v Speaker 2>Rome and me and my daughter. My daughter had just

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<v Speaker 2>suffered a horrible sexual assault and she was healing. I

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<v Speaker 2>cut her out of this photo. She's in it. You

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of see her to the side there with

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<v Speaker 2>the scarf. I don't like to blast her face or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's wrong. But I am there. You can see.

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<v Speaker 2>We're there, and this tour guide pops out of nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>and he comes up to us. We're just standing on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of this road waiting for my husband to

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<v Speaker 2>bring back sandwiches. And this nice looking man comes up

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you gotta go away because my husband

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<v Speaker 2>is coming. He's not going to like that. So he's like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a tour guide. I'm like sure, right, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>like no, no, I promise. So he starts showing me

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<v Speaker 2>his Instagram. My daughter is very beautiful. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>she's probably trying to talk to my daughter and he's like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I just barely had the Kardashians on. And I'm like, then,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you talking to us? Like we're just normal people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we're getting a sandwich. What do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>So he says, well, you can join my group, my

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<v Speaker 2>tour gride group, right, and let me know you're there

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<v Speaker 2>occasionally because I can't see you at all. So you

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<v Speaker 2>there with me, I'm here, okay. Cool? And so when

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<v Speaker 2>people come up to you like this, you have to remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a normy at this point. She's healing from a

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<v Speaker 2>horrible sexual assault at this point, and it wasn't somebody

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<v Speaker 2>she knew. It wasn't like and not that that makes

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<v Speaker 2>it any better for the people that ever get assaulted.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, just to give a little bit extra context there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were a Norman at this point? How long

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<v Speaker 1>ago was this? How old was your daughter when she

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<v Speaker 1>was getting over?

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<v Speaker 2>Was herst so she would have been twenty I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is when she's like twenty three. This has to

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<v Speaker 2>be twenty nineteen. So when we were traveling twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, right in there, and I was total normy,

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<v Speaker 2>like so when this man approached me, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>of like things I would think of now, like is

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<v Speaker 2>what is he doing? Like why is this happening? Because

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<v Speaker 2>there's no coincidences in life, right, And this guy takes

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<v Speaker 2>us on this cool tour. This is his like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is his profile thing. This is like he's really a guide.

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<v Speaker 2>This is him and Courtney Kardashian. So he's not full

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<v Speaker 2>of crap and this is the stuff he's showing us, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can see why I was like, you gotta go. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>my husband's not too jealous, but he wouldn't like this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he also has been on like he's like

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<v Speaker 2>a been on the Gladiator. He's been on like a

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<v Speaker 2>couple shows, like actual shows, like he's like a movie

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<v Speaker 2>star or something. So we go on this tour and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like an off the beaten Path tour and she's

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<v Speaker 2>already met her guy at this point that comes into

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole thing. But they're just talking and

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<v Speaker 2>he they met because he walked up to her at

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<v Speaker 2>a crowded airport and said God told me to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you or I'd regret it the rest of my life. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So again another weird, weird right, Like that's nowadays I

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<v Speaker 2>would be she asked my opinion on this, and nowadays

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<v Speaker 2>I would give a totally different answer than what I

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<v Speaker 2>gave at that time, because now we know like people

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<v Speaker 2>are assignments, things happen, and I know that now, but

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know this then. I was a Christian, but

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't very awake right like I wished I had been.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is us taking this picture, and I am

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<v Speaker 2>literally standing on this this building. See I'm on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. I'm on those stairs right there. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite side of it. And you can see what

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<v Speaker 2>this is called. This is called Santa Maria Sopra Minerva,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is because this church is built over the

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<v Speaker 2>top of Minerva's temple ruins. And if you know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about the story of Minerva and Medusa and all the

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<v Speaker 2>weird things. This is just a little background on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It shows that it's in Rome, That's where we were.

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<v Speaker 2>The other elephant picture is mine, so you can see

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the other side of it, literally standing on

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<v Speaker 2>the steps of this church, and this is inside the church,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was renovations happening at that time, and so

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, that's really important if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>upset spirits as they're tearing into the walls of this

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<v Speaker 2>church and they're doing some weird stuff. And this church

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<v Speaker 2>is literally above this weird underground portion for the temple.

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<v Speaker 2>See it here. This goes down to the temple, nice

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<v Speaker 2>black and white floor and everything. But anyways, nowadays, i'd

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<v Speaker 2>be more awake. Wasn't awake, and she acted really weird.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just put these in here because you can

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<v Speaker 2>see that I'm telling the truth. Like we're all over

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<v Speaker 2>roam and this is like the columnade and stuff there,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's acting like really fussy on this trip, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's super not like her, Like she's usually fun and outgoing,

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<v Speaker 2>and she just wasn't. And you know, I but she

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<v Speaker 2>had all these issues going on too, and she was

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<v Speaker 2>healing from things, so you know, you just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>let things go as a parent. You don't really freak

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<v Speaker 2>out or nothing. Then he takes us to this underground

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<v Speaker 2>area that goes down to these tunnels, and above it

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<v Speaker 2>is this restaurant and this little old lady Sergey dinner

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't get a pick what you get or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You just get what you get. And it was delicious,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, and he seems really nice. She seems

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<v Speaker 2>really nice. Everything seemed fine. This is us with like

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<v Speaker 2>literal pictures on the tour with this gladiator guide, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we stay like a week. I just put these

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<v Speaker 2>in here kind of for fun because you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking, but she seems strange. And when we came back,

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<v Speaker 2>this would have been for her birthday, which is in March.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right by the equinox. Her birthday is like really

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<v Speaker 2>close to it. And then we came home and we

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<v Speaker 2>went on a family trip. And this family trip was

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<v Speaker 2>in California. So we get there and when I say

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<v Speaker 2>we were off grid, I mean we are really off grid.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get this airbnb and it is like all

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<v Speaker 2>ran on solar power. It's out in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the woods, but it's in the red forest and we

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<v Speaker 2>all go. This was like shortly after it was like

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<v Speaker 2>really like in June. It was right after her birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>We got back from Rome. We went on this trip

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy was really strange that I rented it

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<v Speaker 2>from and he had an owl for his profile picture.

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<v Speaker 2>We're out in the middle of the woods and my

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<v Speaker 2>kids are all staying. We're all going as a family

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<v Speaker 2>to this one, whereas the other one we didn't. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a really good picture of it. And in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night, something was trying to get in

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<v Speaker 2>this house and I did not know what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>but it slammed the where the top level is so

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<v Speaker 2>loud it woke everyone up and I was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the heck. Not my husband, it didn't wake him up,

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<v Speaker 2>but the kids me, we're all screaming. We think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bear, Like we're freaking out, and my husband's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta chill out because like, see, this is the door.

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<v Speaker 2>So the second level is clear up in the it's

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<v Speaker 2>far up there, and they're in this loft area that's

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<v Speaker 2>like clear up this way, and that's where it hit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no, there's definitely something trying there's

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<v Speaker 2>the loft trying to get in this house. And I

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<v Speaker 2>wake him up, I make him come out, I make

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<v Speaker 2>him look all around with me, and there's like nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't go outside because we were like, eh, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bear, we don't want to die today. So

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<v Speaker 2>we come back and like we're just chilling, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a full moon. I didn't know this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>from a picture from one of my actual pictures. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a full moon when we were there, which was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's acting way bad on this trip. And when

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<v Speaker 2>that thing hit the door, she sits straight up in bed,

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<v Speaker 2>and my little kids are there with her, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>nine and eight, and she sits up, still asleep and goes,

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<v Speaker 2>Minerva no and lays back down. She's not even awake.

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<v Speaker 2>This is real. Well, you have to remember, I'm not awake,

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<v Speaker 2>right Like, I have no idea. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>about that temple we visited. I have no idea about

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<v Speaker 2>any of this stuff yet. I just know we went

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<v Speaker 2>to Rome, that's all. And I'm like, the kids keep

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<v Speaker 2>saying it over and over and over again because they

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<v Speaker 2>think it's hysterical. They think it's so funny. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what it means, but they kept saying the whole trip,

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<v Speaker 2>Minerva no. And they're like making fun of her hardcore

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<v Speaker 2>because they're little. They're nine and you know, like nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eight, nine and ten right in there. And she

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<v Speaker 2>was so bad on this trip that I literally told her,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you need a fly home, because she was

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<v Speaker 2>a flight attendant, you can go do that, like I

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<v Speaker 2>will take you to the nearest airport because you're on one,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not about it right now. So my stepson

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<v Speaker 2>is like going through his we call it his Jesus face,

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<v Speaker 2>and through this serious Jesus base, which is good, but

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<v Speaker 2>like he went to the extreme and he was like

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<v Speaker 2>almost like Jewish Christian. He got like real crazy. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like grown out his hair. He was like doing

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<v Speaker 2>all this crazy stuff like only reading the Bible, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>watch TV, only eating certain things. Like he was getting

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<v Speaker 2>real wild up. And so I kept having to like

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<v Speaker 2>travel down to the nearest city to get like supplies,

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<v Speaker 2>other supplies than stuff I brought because he wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to eat that and all this stuff. So she was

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<v Speaker 2>super agitated with him. And usually they get along good

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<v Speaker 2>because he's like nineteen this point or eighteen. He's older,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are the closest ones in age other than

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<v Speaker 2>her sister, who couldn't come well her sister. At the

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<v Speaker 2>same time this is happening with the kids and her

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<v Speaker 2>sitting up and saying, Minerva, no, she is in sleep

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<v Speaker 2>paralysis at my home in Utah, and she calls me.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as we get service, I get this message

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<v Speaker 2>from her that is just flipping out, like same time

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<v Speaker 2>it has the times. I remember, we're out in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of like no, there's no service out there, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing out there, and I'm running to town to get

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff for him to eat, and this message comes

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<v Speaker 2>through and she's like MoMA mom, Like she's like cry,

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<v Speaker 2>she's hysterical. She's like my really sensitive kid to every

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<v Speaker 2>She feels things and sees things sometimes and I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel things. I've never been one to see anything since

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<v Speaker 2>I was little. Because it's one time happened, it scared me.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the end of it. And so I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that was really weird. And then she continues to act

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<v Speaker 2>this way the whole time. Well, all this time goes by,

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<v Speaker 2>we come home from our vacation. I don't think anything

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<v Speaker 2>of this. Remember I'm completely normal, like normy Normyville. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter stranges from us in twenty twenty over this

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<v Speaker 2>guy and she cuts us all off, says we're bad people,

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<v Speaker 2>we're narcissists. She doesn't love us anymore, like I'm done

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<v Speaker 2>with you people kind of thing. And then my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>comes home one day, my second daughter, the sensitive one.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, Mom, did you see oh, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>beat that name out? Did you see her tattoo? And

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<v Speaker 2>I said no, I'm blocked on everything. Why so this

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<v Speaker 2>is her tattoo, This is Medusa. These are cherubim all

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<v Speaker 2>around it. This is what she posted about it. Some

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<v Speaker 2>people ask why I didn't add color or a flower

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<v Speaker 2>or something pretty. Well, the meaning behind my tattoo isn't pretty. Medusa.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like myself and many other women were raped, Medusa

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<v Speaker 2>was cursed. This is how I felt after being raped,

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<v Speaker 2>ugly and low in life. I wanted to represent how

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<v Speaker 2>I felt in the middle of the curse, beautiful but

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<v Speaker 2>full with snakes. And yet I also wanted a sense

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<v Speaker 2>of strength with her. Following my Medusa, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>guardian angel. I'm assuming this is her husband, because without

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<v Speaker 2>my angel, I would not be here today. I remembering,

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<v Speaker 2>I remembering wanting to be gone from the curse, but

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<v Speaker 2>an angel kept me here. This tattoo means so much

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I'm so blessed to be here today, to

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<v Speaker 2>be alive, and to be a survivor. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know anything about the church. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>anything about anything until one day my husband came home

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<v Speaker 2>shortly after she got this tattoo and I'll stop sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>We can just chat now. And he says, Heidi, did

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<v Speaker 2>you see did you see the check in pop up

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook? And I said, no, what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Let check? What are you talking about? He says, the

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<v Speaker 2>check in it popped up today on Facebook? And I

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<v Speaker 2>said no, I don't know. I don't know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, well, you've got to You've got to

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<v Speaker 2>look at this. So he shows me, and it's that

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<v Speaker 2>church that I showed you of Minerva the Sober Day Minerva.

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<v Speaker 2>And if anybody knows the story about Medusa and Minerva,

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly Medusa was in the church praying for Minerva. She

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<v Speaker 2>idolized her like she was worshiping her there, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like one of her maidens. And then her dude

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<v Speaker 2>comes in and caes her and gets all crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>has to have her right then and rapes her on

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<v Speaker 2>the floor of that temple. Well, that's where we were

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<v Speaker 2>in Rome about We went down to that lower level

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<v Speaker 2>where that was these ruins. But remember I didn't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know any of this. And at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more awake. This is in twenty twenty when he

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<v Speaker 2>shows me the check in and I start researching. So

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<v Speaker 2>I found out, you know, this, this church, all this

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<v Speaker 2>weird stuff, even the guide, even the gladiator dude that

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<v Speaker 2>was on there, all this stuff. And then on top

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<v Speaker 2>of it, I start researching about California because that's where

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<v Speaker 2>we were right after where she said Irva no, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's the state seal of that freaking state. Everything about

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<v Speaker 2>California is also linked to Minerva. And she's literally calling

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<v Speaker 2>out like no in the middle of the night. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I have to tell you, like, my daughter is

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<v Speaker 2>not the same person she was. She will say that

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<v Speaker 2>to you. She will tell you that herself. She has

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<v Speaker 2>said that to my mom. I don't speak to her

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<v Speaker 2>anymore because she doesn't allow it. But I'm like the

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<v Speaker 2>one person that would have I was the closest to her.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think when these things sometimes come in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the one that is going to be I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying she's fully like engulfed in this. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 2>things attached to us sometimes, you know. And she had

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<v Speaker 2>been opened up for this with this trauma, and then

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<v Speaker 2>on top of it some other stuff that had been

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<v Speaker 2>going on in her life. And so then her prince

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<v Speaker 2>Charmine comes right up to her in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>a crowded airport. And then she never talks to any

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<v Speaker 2>of us again. And she's this new person and she'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell anyone like she tells my mom. She tells everybody

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<v Speaker 2>like you wouldn't know me anymore. She came here, she

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<v Speaker 2>emptied out her storage unit, and she was like prom

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<v Speaker 2>queen and all these things. She threw everything away, all

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<v Speaker 2>of her keepsakes that she'd kept for all this time,

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<v Speaker 2>she threw them all away and just walked away from

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<v Speaker 2>her life, walked away from all of us. And even

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<v Speaker 2>when my other daughter, who is pretty sensitive, tries to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to her and different things, she just nope, It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>how's the sky, how's your day, how's the class, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the weather, and like you can't bring up

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<v Speaker 2>anything with meaning at all. She cut off not only me,

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<v Speaker 2>but she didn't see anybody from this side of the

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<v Speaker 2>family for four years, four years, and then she finally

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<v Speaker 2>came just barely and saw and they have free flight benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>She's married to a pilot, so money's not the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>She lives far away, but money and travel is not

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. They go all over the place. But I

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<v Speaker 2>truly believe in that moment she must have had a

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<v Speaker 2>choice to make whenever all of that went down, and

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<v Speaker 2>she definitely made her choice. Do I know that she's

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<v Speaker 2>okay today? I know she's been rebaptized out of the

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<v Speaker 2>Mormon Church into a Baptist church that I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>Baptist that he goes to. I don't know one hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think her heart's probably a lot better than

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<v Speaker 2>it was. But it worries me, like all these coincidences,

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<v Speaker 2>all this connection, all of this stuff, and then how

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<v Speaker 2>she changed, not only like on a mental level, but

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<v Speaker 2>like in general everything about her is completely different. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really weird. And so you know, when she got the

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo about I freaked out. I was like, wow, this

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<v Speaker 2>is nuts, Like that is that's a lot, like she

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of tattoos. That part didn't bring me out,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that she would actually get that she knows,

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<v Speaker 2>she knows nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to jump in here because that tattoo thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's from what I understand, all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. People will become possessed, so to speak, have

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<v Speaker 1>an entity attachment, and depending on the type of entity,

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<v Speaker 1>it will force them subconsciously to desire a tattoo so

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<v Speaker 1>that it seals their spirit into the vessel. Because remember, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>back in those days, like if you read the Old

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic like all the stuff that demonology is founded on,

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<v Speaker 1>they will tell you about seals and tattoos.

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<v Speaker 2>You use the seals either coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Or either conjured or keep an entity trapped. So I

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<v Speaker 1>could see how this a nervous spirit as we're calling it,

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<v Speaker 1>would want to secure its place.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's huge. It's like her whole it's huge, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is wild to me, and especially now

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what I know, like about Mormonism and solemonic magic

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<v Speaker 2>and the seals, like you're talking about like one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>percent Mormons use these, like one hundred percent Mormons use

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<v Speaker 2>this right like they use seals all the time and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole foundation of the church. So she already was

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<v Speaker 2>raised up. She was my most indoctrinated child because she

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<v Speaker 2>was the oldest, right. The others like as I got

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<v Speaker 2>out are it's a different level. But these this, these

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<v Speaker 2>oldest ones, it's a different it's a different thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I saw that, I felt the same like you,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like, this is a mark on her. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like a mark on her, you know, And it

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<v Speaker 2>scares me because everything has changed so much. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you read about people that are affected. Now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying she's not her anymore, but we know that people

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<v Speaker 2>get affected by things. We know that channeling happens. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that things can be accepted, especially if you accept it,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you accepted in especially where she says an

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<v Speaker 2>angel helped her. I'm like, okay, was that her husband

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<v Speaker 2>or was that a literal angel? And we all know

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<v Speaker 2>what is the devil described as sometimes right, like a cherubhim,

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<v Speaker 2>like he was a chair right that, there's it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Either he was a cherubim or a seraphim. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>people say. And I know we don't one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>know the answer, but like just knowing that and hearing

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<v Speaker 2>that when I saw it, I was like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>And her husband comes from I often wonder he comes

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<v Speaker 2>from a huge banking family back East and he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get married. Yeah, he and I was getting into things

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<v Speaker 2>like when I seen him the second time, which would

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<v Speaker 2>have been like after that trip, like, oh, it was Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>It was on Halloween, and I would have been telling

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<v Speaker 2>him things that I'm learning at this point because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like getting in it. I'm like, oh my gosh, like

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<v Speaker 2>not about Medusa, none of that yet, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>like learning about freemasonry, right, I'm learning about little things,

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<v Speaker 2>little things. So I'm like, he told me, I'm never

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<v Speaker 2>getting married anywhere but in my church in my hometown.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever she has to come here. That's really unusual for

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<v Speaker 2>a bride because usually the bride's family is where the

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<v Speaker 2>wedding is, you know, like that's the tradition in I

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<v Speaker 2>mean normally. And He's like, no, I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting married anywhere but in my church. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, but it's not like Catholic or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not you know, it's not because of he's

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<v Speaker 2>a Catholic or something, and that's not why he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>But I found that so odd. I found it he

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<v Speaker 2>like systematically dismantled our whole family within six months. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's a weird. That's weird on its own, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone this Minervaus stuff going on at the same

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<v Speaker 2>exact time. It's like the same time. And then she

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<v Speaker 2>had a roommate that was super into not black magic,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it called. She was creole, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>who do whoo doo? Who do that kind of weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They were doing love spells for her before she met

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, right before, and she told me about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like no. I was like, no, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that. What are you doing? Why are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing that? You want you want trouble? That's that, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you doing? And she was having like really

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<v Speaker 2>bad cold spirit attacks, like in her room, like feeling

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00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:05.880
<v Speaker 2>cold and like weird stuff and nowhere else in the house.

413
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:08.599
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, you better be praying, Like I

414
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.480
<v Speaker 2>remember telling her you better be praying, like you better pray,

415
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and she was like oh. And then so when the

416
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:20.079
<v Speaker 2>husband comes in, the roommate is gone, just disappears out

417
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:21.880
<v Speaker 2>of her life. You tell me that's not in a siment.

418
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:25.480
<v Speaker 2>She unfriends all of us on Facebook. She unfriends everybody,

419
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 2>the whole entire family. She unfriends the girl like my daughter,

420
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:32.039
<v Speaker 2>who she was best friends with for three years. They

421
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 2>lived together and was supposed to be like her maid

422
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:37.000
<v Speaker 2>of honor and everything, poof, She's just gone into the

423
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>night bye, Like it's weird, you know, I thought it

424
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 2>was weird. I don't know, but it's a scary, scary situation.

425
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I think, Oh yeah, that's pretty strange. I mean to.

426
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Summon I love her, and that stuff always backfires.

427
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, that's not a good idea. I'll do that.

428
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:10.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a bad idea. And like I said, like, yeah,

429
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.039
<v Speaker 2>she got what she wanted, Like what she always wanted

430
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 2>was to be a mom she is, to not worry

431
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.200
<v Speaker 2>about money but she doesn't, and kind of to be

432
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.680
<v Speaker 2>taken care of, you know, and she has And she

433
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:26.599
<v Speaker 2>wanted a farm. She wanted a far met and she

434
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 2>has one. And it's like everything she ever said, like

435
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:34.279
<v Speaker 2>minus a cow she wants. I know she wants a cow.

436
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't think she has that. But minus that, everything

437
00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 2>else on her list is checked. But what did she

438
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>have to give up? Every single one of us? Everything else? Yeah? Yeah,

439
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:47.920
<v Speaker 2>And when I'm telling you, like that was her brother

440
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 2>and her brother and her member. He was like nine.

441
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 2>He's a kid, he's like eight, and they were tight,

442
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>like she helped me raise him because when she when

443
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 2>he was little, I had cancer and so they were close,

444
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>like so close, like her real child and poof just

445
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 2>gone because he told her off one day. He was

446
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>only like maybe nine when he told her off. He said, so,

447
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 2>why are you treating our mom like this? What are

448
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 2>you crazy? Like that's our mom? Like what is wrong

449
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.599
<v Speaker 2>with you? Like I don't care, like because she was

450
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:23.680
<v Speaker 2>kind of going off on me, and he's like, I

451
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.240
<v Speaker 2>don't care if if mom did something bad when you

452
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>were younger or whatever. He's like, which, I mean, I

453
00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>was gone a lot and that makes me feel bad,

454
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:37.440
<v Speaker 2>but like I had a nanny. I mean I tried

455
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>to do the best things I could for them, but yeah,

456
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 2>I was gone a lot. I was the dad. I

457
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>was the dad and the mom. There was no dad,

458
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:49.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, he took off. So I mean I do

459
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I regret absolutely, but like I can't think of anything

460
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.880
<v Speaker 2>so horrific, right, Like you try and you rack your

461
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:59.279
<v Speaker 2>brain forever for like a year and a half. I

462
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>just racked my brain on what I could do, what

463
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.839
<v Speaker 2>I could change, what could happen on my end that

464
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I could fix this such because like you think you

465
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>got to fix it, you know, but sometimes you can't.

466
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's not your deal. And it wasn't like I

467
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 2>did everything I could like I'll go to therapy with you.

468
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 2>I'll I'll get racked over the coals, like I'll say

469
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>sorry to everybody, Like whatever you want me to do,

470
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll do it because I missed her so bad, you know, right,

471
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 2>And nothing nothing, Nope, So this gets one more step weird.

472
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:37.759
<v Speaker 2>So one day, two days after she came home from

473
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the hospital from having a baby, she's had a baby.

474
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Now baby looks like me. And they always say, we

475
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 2>don't know who the baby looks like. I'm like, okay,

476
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 2>my mom tells them all the time, the baby looks

477
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:55.319
<v Speaker 2>like your mom, that that's fine whatever. She looks an

478
00:28:55.319 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 2>awful lot like me, the daughter does. But she comes

479
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 2>home from the hospital and she calls my mom hysterical,

480
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.759
<v Speaker 2>and we were right in the middle of having a

481
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 2>conversation where and I wasn't like mad mad, but I

482
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 2>just said this needs to stop now, and I just

483
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.400
<v Speaker 2>hit the table like that that was it, Like that

484
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>was as mad as I got. Like we were just

485
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about it because we were sad about not seeing

486
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>the baby and not being in the baby's life and stuff.

487
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:22.599
<v Speaker 2>We were just having our own talk. She wasn't on

488
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 2>the phone yet. She calls my mom in the middle

489
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>of this conversation, crying and screaming, screaming, Like I knew

490
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>that scream was serious. I knew something was wrong. And

491
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.519
<v Speaker 2>of course she just had a baby and she had

492
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 2>a c section. I was scared something bad happened, you know,

493
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. So my mom hands me the phone

494
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh my gosh, like I'm not supposed

495
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>to talk to her. I'm trying to be respectful of

496
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>her wishes. I don't know what to do, like I'm

497
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>my god. So I say hello, you know, and she's like,

498
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>lightning struck my house. And I'm like, what lightning struck

499
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>my house? I'm like when just now? Like so in

500
00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 2>the time it took for her to call my mom,

501
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>like literally, that was why we were saying it needed

502
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 2>to stop. Lightning struck her house, hit a gas line

503
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 2>in her house and blew her wall out and started

504
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>a fire. And he ran back in and put it

505
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>out because he's also a volunteer firefighter, so he ran

506
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 2>back in there, no equipment, nothing, put it out. Good

507
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 2>for him, that's good. I'm glad everything was fine, everybody

508
00:30:27.880 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 2>was safe. But I found that really funny, like in

509
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 2>an odd way, not funny. Ha ha. That lightning struck

510
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 2>their house right as we were saying that needed to stop.

511
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.319
<v Speaker 2>And this is when I'm more awake and more like

512
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>in tune. I knew everything by then, and my mom

513
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my gosh. And I was like, I

514
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:47.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't wish nothing bad on nobody. I just said it

515
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>needed to stop, like because my son was like, Mom,

516
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, no, I'm not in that business. I

517
00:30:53.880 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>don't do wishing on bad people. No, that's not for me. Yeah,

518
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:05.480
<v Speaker 2>So lightning struck their house. It's pretty odd.

519
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty strange. I mean, I don't think there's

520
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>such a thing as coincidence. Really, right right in the

521
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>middle of us saying that.

522
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 2>That was weird, I mean, this is a really compelling story.

523
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I just.

524
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 2>I wonder.

525
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 1>If things can never get better for her, Not necessarily

526
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:37.799
<v Speaker 1>between the two of you guys, but I wonder if

527
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:42.599
<v Speaker 1>things can never get better for her and if she

528
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>really is just a goner at this point, because like,

529
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>even in my private conversations with Jerry Martinski, I don't

530
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>know if you know him, the way he talks about

531
00:31:55.640 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 1>how there's this element of accepting there's like a relationship

532
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>between the person and the possessor the entity, and that

533
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.559
<v Speaker 1>until that relationship, that dependency goes away, it's kind of

534
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like a it's.

535
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Never going to resolve itself. So I wonder, yeah, they

536
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:20.720
<v Speaker 2>like own you or something, right like for the until

537
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 2>you say stop it.

538
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but even then they don't even really want to go,

539
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 1>like they'll do anything to keep you stuck in that

540
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>same pattern.

541
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 2>And I guess that's saying first it give.

542
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:40.079
<v Speaker 1>It is right, right, very interesting because you never know

543
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>when things could just all of a sudden fall apart

544
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 1>completely and you're completely devastating for her, Like that lightning

545
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>strike is a good example.

546
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Of that, right right, Like maybe she was thinking about

547
00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.359
<v Speaker 2>like connecting because I did send baby stuff and I

548
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>sent a letter, but he's like the grand interceptor, like

549
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 2>he like takes all the things. Like I wrote a

550
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 2>big letter and told him how much I loved him

551
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 2>and everything, and like even him, I was like, look

552
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:14.240
<v Speaker 2>like whatever it is, it is, but like I just

553
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>want to fix it, you know, like I'm not mad.

554
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Just come home, like not come home like live here,

555
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>like come back to our lives. But I also feel

556
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>like we're the only things that would know if she

557
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>was different all of us, because we would know we

558
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 2>know her, we know her like real know her, we

559
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>know her heart, you know, we know who she is.

560
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>And my daughter and my son and everybody that saw her.

561
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 2>First of all, it was on a timeframe. She was

562
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.960
<v Speaker 2>here for like three days and he only let him

563
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>have two hours out to lunch with my mom. It

564
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>was like in a restaurant, public place, timed you can

565
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 2>take pictures, say hi, blah blah blah. That was it,

566
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.599
<v Speaker 2>and like it was very timed. And my son I

567
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>was like, how was it, you know, are you happy

568
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.519
<v Speaker 2>to see her? Are you happy? You know? And he's like,

569
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>because we had a decision to make in that moment.

570
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, we have two miners. My husband was like, nope,

571
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.000
<v Speaker 2>screw her and the horse. She wrote in on We're

572
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>not sending our kids. And I'm like, okay, no, like

573
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>we're not. I'm like, we get to pray about this,

574
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, like this is a big deal. What if

575
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.599
<v Speaker 2>they don't get to see her again for a long time,

576
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 2>what if you know, they get to meet the baby

577
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.920
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. So I'm like I felt different about

578
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.320
<v Speaker 2>it because he was. He's just still really mad about

579
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 2>the fact because he's like I never did anything. I

580
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:45.239
<v Speaker 2>don't understand. I don't understand he got him too everybody,

581
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And I said, I don't feel like that because I

582
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>don't feel like it's it's you like I did. I

583
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.239
<v Speaker 2>did feel like it was at first like we did

584
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 2>something right, we can fix it, it's us. But then

585
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 2>at some point you have to say, this is this

586
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 2>is their choice for whatever reason, even if it is

587
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe she just does hate me, Like okay, fine, but

588
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 2>this is still a weird story, right, Like at the

589
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, like you want them to be

590
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.760
<v Speaker 2>happy and you want them to be well adjusted. So

591
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>the best thing I knew I could do for my kids,

592
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 2>the little ones, is let them see their sister. Like

593
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>that's a weird don't do that, you know, you can't

594
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>like say no. So I let him go and I

595
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.199
<v Speaker 2>was like, you don't seem too happy, like are you

596
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>not that happy? And he's like it was okay, I'm

597
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Speaker 2>like why, He's like, it's just it was really regimented.

598
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 2>It was like that, you know, and he's like it

599
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>just felt weird, just felt weird. And I was like, well,

600
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that's sad. And my little one said she didn't know.

601
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 2>She wanted to go again. If if they came back

602
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 2>and she's only ten, and she's like, Mom, I just

603
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's not the same and you're not

604
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>there and it's sad. She's like, it's just so sad

605
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.920
<v Speaker 2>knowing that you're like right down the street and you

606
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>don't get us here. And I'm like, oh, I'm fine.

607
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I just played it off. I was like, nah, I'm good,

608
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Like I want you to have fun, you know. And

609
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Speaker 2>she's like, no, but you're our mom. You know you

610
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.400
<v Speaker 2>should be with her, like she's here her mom, like

611
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 2>even at ten years old. She's like, I don't get it.

612
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, I don't get it. But I

613
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.639
<v Speaker 2>think she made a Faustian bargain. I really do. It

614
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.480
<v Speaker 2>feels so strange, you know. I hate to say that

615
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 2>because she's my kid and I have to tell you,

616
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:36.239
<v Speaker 2>like her name. She was the only one when I

617
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>got married in the temple and you kneel over an

618
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>altar and you look into these weird mirrors. She was

619
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.719
<v Speaker 2>in me. I was like eight and a half, almost

620
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 2>nine months pregnant. I was far like she was due soon,

621
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:56.519
<v Speaker 2>like maybe three weeks, so she was there. She was

622
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.119
<v Speaker 2>within me when I'm like having this done. And actually

623
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that's where I got her name is at that time,

624
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>and I always wonder, man, I'm like, what did I do?

625
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 2>You know?

626
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Like?

627
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>And I know like, I mean, I spent a lot

628
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.679
<v Speaker 2>of time trying to break things off. Even now it's

629
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:19.159
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a forever process. I think. Once you make oaths,

630
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.320
<v Speaker 2>which is why I'm here telling my story, don't make oaths.

631
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 2>God says it for a reason. It's a really good

632
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 2>idea to listen. Don't make oasts because you don't know.

633
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.639
<v Speaker 2>You don't know what you're doing. All the time. They

634
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 2>told me that was about going to heaven. It's not

635
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>solomonic magic exactly.

636
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 1>These vows and stuff, they really they really exist. We

637
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 1>really take a toll on you. They really bind you

638
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 1>to certain circumstances and situations for forever if you don't

639
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:54.199
<v Speaker 1>know how to break it.

640
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 2>I read, yeah, I read.

641
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:02.639
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say I just read it. I studied a

642
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>book called The Grand Keys of Solomon. And I don't

643
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 1>know if anybody else has read this, but it's three parts,

644
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a tome. It's a lot to go through. And

645
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:13.199
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't like how I felt, well, I was

646
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.679
<v Speaker 1>studying it, but I was trying to get familiar with

647
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the information because I felt like it was relevant to

648
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the path that I'm on. And it's a lot of

649
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 1>dark stuff, Like there's really people out there that you know,

650
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and I want.

651
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 2>To breakface this.

652
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 1>There's people that are going to listen to this and

653
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>they don't agree with Christianity, they don't agree with a

654
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>new Age, they don't agree with even the concept that

655
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 1>state In exists or Lucifer exists. Like there's going to

656
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 1>be they're just green that are going to hear this

657
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to have all kinds of ideas, and

658
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

659
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 2>But the reality is.

660
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 1>That there are people out there that believe that these

661
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>things work, and whether it's real or not, it is

662
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 1>their belief alone that appears to make these things work

663
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>and make these entities manifest.

664
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 2>And it's a serious thing. It's nothing to be played with.

665
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I want and this since you mentioned the Keys of Solomon,

666
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.880
<v Speaker 2>this has nothing to do with my with Mormon, well

667
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 2>with Minerva, but it has to do with Mormons. I

668
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.320
<v Speaker 2>want to show you what I found this week. Maybe

669
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:20.840
<v Speaker 2>this was why I was supposed to see it.

670
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Now right, I'll just continue talking will you look for it. Yeah,

671
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>this kind of of manipulation of energy and stuff like that.

672
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>It is some of the darkest stuff. And even when

673
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I was reading it, it's like things would happen around

674
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 1>me that weren't good that I just like, I wasn't

675
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:48.920
<v Speaker 1>living in this house. I was living overseas in a

676
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:55.280
<v Speaker 1>house in Pennsylvania, and like the cat died and all

677
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 1>kinds of weird stuff like under weird circumstances and stuff.

678
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Well it was real, and this sound was like I

679
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 1>really wonder if something didn't reach in and just like.

680
00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Clop this cat.

681
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, the cat looked like the cat looked

682
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>like it's been Yeah, the cat looks like he'd been

683
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>bludding to death basically.

684
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.239
<v Speaker 2>And then it was an inside cat.

685
00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's like, what could I have attacked this cat,

686
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, right inside the house.

687
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all kinds of weird stuff went on.

688
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll just leave that example there. But this stuff isn't

689
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.039
<v Speaker 1>anything to be played with. And when you're looking at

690
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>like you trade, when you get really curious and really honest,

691
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>because that has the key component here, and just read

692
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>stop looking for this stuff on the internet, because the

693
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 1>internet is not going to give you all the right

694
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.679
<v Speaker 1>information all the time. You have to read books, books,

695
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 1>and you usually have to read a lot of them

696
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 1>to find and where things line up and lead you

697
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.760
<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. But you know, the Rothschild family

698
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 1>is a real thing, you know, and they control a

699
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of these religions and stuff go back to them,

700
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 1>and they're laying with freemasonry and stuff like that. And

701
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:13.760
<v Speaker 1>now there's this weird, weird thing on the Internet where

702
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 1>there's like sympathy for Freemasonry, and it's like, no, it's

703
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 1>just the people that you feel sympathetic towards. They don't

704
00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 1>know what's going on because they're not of that kind

705
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of spirit that they're going to get told to go

706
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>up to this level or that level or whatever. But

707
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>there's other things going on. It's I describe it as

708
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.400
<v Speaker 1>being like a hallway with many doors, and whichever room

709
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:42.119
<v Speaker 1>your personality and your level of morality suits, they'll call

710
00:41:42.159 --> 00:41:44.559
<v Speaker 1>you into that door. And then there'll be hundreds of

711
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>thousands of other people that don't know because they just

712
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 1>don't they're.

713
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Not suitable for that. So there's darkness afoot.

714
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:56.679
<v Speaker 1>There's evil, seriously in this world, and there's a lot

715
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>of stuff like this that you're saying that it's People

716
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>have no idea how common this stuff is.

717
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>This is a real thing that you're going through. Yeah,

718
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.920
<v Speaker 2>you're going to show Can you see that? Can you

719
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.440
<v Speaker 2>see this? It's pulled up on the screen.

720
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I think I need to exit and I have to

721
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 1>add you add that screen, Bagon, Can I add it?

722
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:18.679
<v Speaker 2>Here?

723
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>You go?

724
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So here is the the parchment that the founder

725
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:30.400
<v Speaker 2>of the Mormon Church had on him his death. You'll

726
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>recognize it because you've studied what I've studied. And this

727
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>talisman is also what he wore when always it was

728
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 2>always on his body. This is a copy of that

729
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.599
<v Speaker 2>talisman up close, and the back of it's different, but

730
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:51.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the that's the third seal of Jupiter ear thor

731
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 2>pentacal ocuputer. And then also this is what is on

732
00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 2>that parchment right there, And this is commanding spirits and

733
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I just barely learned about this, and these are the

734
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:10.760
<v Speaker 2>spirits that are on that parchment as well. And he

735
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:15.119
<v Speaker 2>was directly working with Raphael. And if you notice when

736
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:17.760
<v Speaker 2>it was on that parchment, it's not in a circle,

737
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>so it's not bound. That means he's working directly with it.

738
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:28.280
<v Speaker 2>With those entities, and this is the founder of that church.

739
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:33.679
<v Speaker 2>When I went to read the Seals of Solomon, the

740
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Greater and Lesser Keys, I found them and look who

741
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:41.840
<v Speaker 2>uploaded him the Greater Key of Solomon digitized by Brigham

742
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Young University, by Mormon College, And I was like, what

743
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 2>in the heck? And this is their new seal for

744
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 2>their priesthood. Yeah, and they call it the seal. They

745
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:03.119
<v Speaker 2>literally call it the sale of Melkezidic. And again it's

746
00:44:03.159 --> 00:44:04.000
<v Speaker 2>not in a circle.

747
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:06.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

748
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I found that really interesting with the Solomonic aspect of things, like,

749
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 2>that's wild to me.

750
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 4>You know.

751
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I thought you might find that interesting because I

752
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 2>just barely learned about it. I was studying this world. Yeah,

753
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.480
<v Speaker 2>that's Solomonic. I just thought it was Masonic. I didn't

754
00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 2>know like all that. But you know that that that's

755
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 2>the kind of stuff you're taking os for in the

756
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>temple like that, Yeah, precisely, precisely.

757
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>And other dangesting is the way that people reference King

758
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Solomon as a hero because maybe the Bible told him

759
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:50.559
<v Speaker 1>now or whatever, but Solomon isn't who they say he is.

760
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 1>It is scary all this information as well, even when

761
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 1>you read when you read the Keys of Solomon, there

762
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>there actually is no proof that and as a real

763
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:05.679
<v Speaker 1>human being either someone like they refer to him as

764
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 1>though he's a deity itself, like maybe a demigod or

765
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:11.599
<v Speaker 1>some kind of thing like that.

766
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, you have something to control them all, like he

767
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 2>controlled them all. Like and I know they talk about

768
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the Ring and people are going to hear this, and

769
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>that new show came out, the Lord of the Ring show.

770
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:24.639
<v Speaker 2>I haven't watched it yet, but I've already got messages

771
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 2>from a bunch of people like do you see this stuff.

772
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I don't have to watch it to

773
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:35.360
<v Speaker 2>know what that's gonna be, like talking about dripping blood. Yeah,

774
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm like you already. No, No, I'm not watching any

775
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff. I just don't care. I'm like, oh, yeah,

776
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.679
<v Speaker 2>that you can describe it to me. I'll tell you

777
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:49.039
<v Speaker 2>what it is. But all these people are so ridiculous.

778
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>They're so ridiculous.

779
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:54.679
<v Speaker 1>Yea, they actually think they can consciously watch this stuff

780
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:56.079
<v Speaker 1>just because they know a little bit of something and

781
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:58.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to affect them. From idiots, y'all are

782
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>freaking stupid. It's gonna say it. Whatever goes into your

783
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>subconscious mind acts on you, against you.

784
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.159
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter. When they told me just one scene,

785
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, I'm good, I'm okay. I'm not

786
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay. I'm like I want to watch that. That's

787
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:21.119
<v Speaker 2>uns terrifying. Like what he's got his hand open, bleeding

788
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>on stuff in a circle sounds familiar? No, thank you.

789
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like, uhh, exactly. Yeah, there's the number one

790
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the number one themes. That's one of the

791
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>number one themes that's recurring in a lot of television,

792
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>even non Hollywood produced films. It's just the same thing,

793
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 1>the same repetitive stuff, over and over, conjuring of the rings.

794
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.079
<v Speaker 2>And rings as the one ring to rule them all, right,

795
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, yeah, And I'll tell you a quick

796
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>story that's relevant to the new thing.

797
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 1>When I was about eighteen years old, I used to

798
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 1>hang out with a guy's I fuck him.

799
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even gonna like believe this out. His name

800
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 2>was Ryan, and.

801
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:13.199
<v Speaker 1>We all knew him his nickname the Satan, and he

802
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.800
<v Speaker 1>had a ring that he wore and if he took

803
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.280
<v Speaker 1>his ring off, he would lose his mind. And the

804
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>inside of the ring had an inscription. And I really

805
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>believe that he had gamons and stuff in it because

806
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:33.760
<v Speaker 1>when he he would take this ring off before he

807
00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do anything bad, and he used to do

808
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:41.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of bad stuff, like criminal stuff, and we

809
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 1>did we actually didn't even realize that what was that

810
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 1>that was what he was doing until it was too

811
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>late we found out that he was doing.

812
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 2>But he would just lie and manipulate people and.

813
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Have like sex orgies and stuff like that, and you know,

814
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>we just thought he was a normal guy. We just

815
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.360
<v Speaker 1>thought he was a little wacky or whatever. And he

816
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 1>was into like we thought he was just weird because

817
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>he was into like heavy metal music and stuff. He'd

818
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>be wearing like a Disturbed T shirt with anybody that's

819
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:12.039
<v Speaker 1>into Disturbed music, you know. And they had one album

820
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.119
<v Speaker 1>called Billy, But it's a combination of all of the

821
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 1>symbols like Star of David and all that stuff all

822
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:20.800
<v Speaker 1>made into one symbol. And it's also not inside of

823
00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the circle either. So it's like, you know, people, we

824
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 1>don't understand exactly how deep in the shit we are

825
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to this demonic influence. These entities just

826
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.039
<v Speaker 1>running loose looking for people to jump on, and he

827
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>was full of it. I just recently reconnected with someone

828
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:48.760
<v Speaker 1>who was the little sister of this Ryan guy's girlfriend,

829
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.559
<v Speaker 1>and I remember his girlfriend used to lose it. She

830
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.440
<v Speaker 1>would lose her freaking line too, and she was into

831
00:48:54.679 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 1>witchcraft of the dark kind, and she would have like

832
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:05.079
<v Speaker 1>seizures and all kinds of crazy stuff. I remember having

833
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to go over there once or twice to help the

834
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:11.320
<v Speaker 1>little sister just like take her away from the house

835
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:19.760
<v Speaker 1>because some crazy stuff was going on. Yeah, this story

836
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.679
<v Speaker 1>with your daughter reminds me of my sister. My mother

837
00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:26.800
<v Speaker 1>told me a story when I was really young. I

838
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:28.519
<v Speaker 1>guess back then it was just a story for me,

839
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 1>but she told me that my sister never actually write

840
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 1>after the age of seven, because she came home one

841
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.360
<v Speaker 1>evening and found her in the living room pretending to

842
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 1>play school, and she had these rulers and she was

843
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:49.800
<v Speaker 1>like pretend beating the crap out of all the students

844
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 1>in the classroom, the so called classroom, And my mother

845
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>asked her why she did it, and she said, Pernicia

846
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 1>made me do it. And my mother was like, who

847
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 1>the hell is Paranicia? And Brnicia was her imaginary friend.

848
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And back then they lived in a house that was

849
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.079
<v Speaker 1>it was in like nineteen eighty and they lived in

850
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a house that was My mother would swear that this

851
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:18.280
<v Speaker 1>house was haunted because one night she got up to

852
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>go for a glass of water and something pushed her

853
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:25.119
<v Speaker 1>really hard, right into a glass table. This was right

854
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.760
<v Speaker 1>around the time that my sister was talking to imaginary

855
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.559
<v Speaker 1>friends and stuff like that. But they eventually left the

856
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>house and came to this house that well, not this house,

857
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:42.239
<v Speaker 1>but house next to. My family asked two houses one day,

858
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 1>see both of our side by side, i should say,

859
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 1>And then they eventually moved into this house and that's

860
00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 1>where they lived. But when they left that house, Bernicia

861
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.800
<v Speaker 1>went away, all the imaginary friend talk went away, and

862
00:50:57.880 --> 00:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>all the spooky stuff stopped happening.

863
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's good, right, So that tells you a lot.

864
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:07.199
<v Speaker 1>But my mother swears that there's wanting influence that took

865
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>over my sister, that changed her forever, because my sisters

866
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 1>give us trouble for like twenty something years until she

867
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>finally moved away, got away from us. Actually, we asked

868
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:24.280
<v Speaker 1>her to get away from us. She didn't move my choice.

869
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 1>We were like, you've just got to go.

870
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:29.599
<v Speaker 2>That's trouble from you.

871
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 1>She was just really evil things. She was always drawn

872
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:34.679
<v Speaker 1>to really evil things. The kind of movies that she

873
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.880
<v Speaker 1>liked to watch were always the really evil things, and

874
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:39.320
<v Speaker 1>she seemed to get.

875
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Joy out of the suffering of other people.

876
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:49.719
<v Speaker 1>If she I remember there was a movie I can't

877
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:51.760
<v Speaker 1>remember if it's a Johnny Depp movie or what it is,

878
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 1>The Ninth Gate or something like that, and I remember

879
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:58.440
<v Speaker 1>she really loved that movie when it came out. She

880
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 1>loved like the the cover art and everything. She's like, oh,

881
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 1>this looks so good. And I was like, Okay, something's

882
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 1>wrong with you. Anything that had like the Devil's titled,

883
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.039
<v Speaker 1>like any anything referencing the devil or demons or anything

884
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:13.360
<v Speaker 1>like that.

885
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 2>She was all over it all the time. And it

886
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 2>was really really strange. She was She's a that's what

887
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.480
<v Speaker 2>she was. She's she's a demon for sure.

888
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:29.119
<v Speaker 1>Carry even like I remember noticing it from when I

889
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:35.320
<v Speaker 1>was like thirteen fourteen years old. She always had a

890
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>particular smell, like sulfur on her body all the time.

891
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:45.320
<v Speaker 1>She spells smells really bad like egg, rotten egg. Oh no, yeah,

892
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 1>rotten eggs. Yeah, it's definitely not good.

893
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Yeah, I just think I can see

894
00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 2>it you know, people people play with things they shouldn't

895
00:52:55.280 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes even like like, okay, Joseph Smith, I showed

896
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 2>you what he had on him, But what did he

897
00:53:03.599 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 2>say visited him? Right? Like an angel? He didn't say

898
00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:10.000
<v Speaker 2>a demon. But like they they fake it, they fake it.

899
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 2>And if you know the true story, Joseph Smith couldn't

900
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.559
<v Speaker 2>have seen an angel because the guy was supposedly a

901
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.679
<v Speaker 2>real person. Once, that's not an angel, that's necromancy. You're

902
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 2>talking to a dead guy, Like, that's not an angel.

903
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 2>That's different. You know.

904
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you do your research and you actually find

905
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 1>information that suggests that Joseph Smith was talking to demons.

906
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Again, didn't he go to graveyards or something like that?

907
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I think he did. He was a treasure digger supposedly.

908
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and there was you know a lot of

909
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:50.000
<v Speaker 2>creepy stuff that happening around him that people don't talk about,

910
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Like his brother mysteriously died of constipation and had an

911
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:59.320
<v Speaker 2>overdose of medication from it. And he was the oldest son,

912
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.559
<v Speaker 2>so that right there was weird. Then Joseph has a

913
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:08.000
<v Speaker 2>baby right after he supposedly talks to this angel and

914
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:11.039
<v Speaker 2>gets all these plates that he's you know doing his

915
00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:16.000
<v Speaker 2>baby is born and has horrific birth defects and they

916
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:18.840
<v Speaker 2>name it the dead brother's name, and it dies within

917
00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 2>minutes and it's like all birth defect like problems and stuff,

918
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 2>and like, so two of the firstborn sons dead. And

919
00:54:27.320 --> 00:54:31.360
<v Speaker 2>then what happens. He gets everything he's wanted, like, I mean,

920
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 2>he comes right, I mean, he ends up running for

921
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 2>president of the United States. Yeah, he gets martyred. Later

922
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 2>makes you wonder, like why I did get later? Yeah, yeah,

923
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:49.639
<v Speaker 2>when you check it. Charles T. Russell was kind of

924
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:51.880
<v Speaker 2>like on the same thing. He had similar.

925
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Things that happened, like talking to anti tees and stuff

926
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:57.800
<v Speaker 1>like that. And there we have it, Jehovah's witnesses and

927
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.679
<v Speaker 1>people actually think something good.

928
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:06.039
<v Speaker 2>But it's just the other called Mohammed. Mohammed. I always say, listen,

929
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Mohammed was speaking to spirits, Gabriel supposedly, right, and then

930
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:16.800
<v Speaker 2>we've got what Crowley speaking to aliens. He's got the Lima,

931
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:19.519
<v Speaker 2>we got John d speaking to everybody. He was speaking

932
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 2>to all the dead people. He's up here, and a

933
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of things came from him. I mean tons of

934
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:28.760
<v Speaker 2>things came from him, you know, including the Enoki and alphabet,

935
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 2>So you know, he lays this stuff out, but it's

936
00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:37.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, Croley's not special, He's not special. Parsons out

937
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 2>in the desert. They all paid a price too. It

938
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 2>was always sexual in nature. It either starts up with

939
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:47.800
<v Speaker 2>polygamy or they swap wives, or they're doing some weird stuff,

940
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:51.679
<v Speaker 2>like every single time, every single time, God doesn't require that.

941
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you think God had come down and be like, yeah,

942
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 2>swap wives. No, that's weird. No, He's not going to

943
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 2>require that sexual will sin to make it happen, Like

944
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:09.760
<v Speaker 2>that's weird. So every one of them, Yeah, so Jehovah's yeah,

945
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:12.920
<v Speaker 2>witnesses if they have a sin associated with theirs.

946
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 1>But I can't remember a lot of this stuff. And

947
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:20.039
<v Speaker 1>there's just so much stuff to memorize that it's like,

948
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I'm going to remember all this stuff.

949
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:24.559
<v Speaker 1>By the time I'm dead, I won't remember any of this.

950
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:27.119
<v Speaker 1>But he's read it anyway, you know, I just read

951
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 1>it because.

952
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll be extra goodbye then. But like, it's weird

953
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:33.800
<v Speaker 2>that they all have almost the same story.

954
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it's and it's all coming from the

955
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:43.760
<v Speaker 1>rothschild infiltrated Satan is something, you know, like they Lucifer

956
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:45.079
<v Speaker 1>worship and all that stuff.

957
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's weird out well, and it goes far back

958
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:54.079
<v Speaker 2>into the kabbala and Jewish mysticism and all kinds of stuff.

959
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Like I talked to a guy about that. Yeah, it

960
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:04.719
<v Speaker 2>so crazy. I'm like what, But he didn't want to

961
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:06.800
<v Speaker 2>talk to me about Mormons. I'll tell you that right now.

962
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:11.199
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to talk about that. We talked about

963
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.599
<v Speaker 2>like things around it, but he didn't want to talk

964
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.760
<v Speaker 2>about that. Kind of interesting.

965
00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one of my very best friends was raised in

966
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 1>the Mormon religion and stuff, and her mother kind of

967
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.400
<v Speaker 1>woke up and tried to get him out of it,

968
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>not without her getting raped as little girl. But you know, man,

969
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 1>it seems to be a common thing that happens in

970
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the Mormon could then people just don't talk about it.

971
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're starting to. They're starting to come out and

972
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:44.119
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. And that's where it makes you wonder,

973
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:48.000
<v Speaker 2>like the brother died of constipation, Like, oh, what did

974
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:48.280
<v Speaker 2>they do?

975
00:57:48.840 --> 00:57:53.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what I mean, I'm.

976
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Not they did.

977
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:57.719
<v Speaker 1>But that dullion of constipation story is a common threat too, though,

978
00:57:57.760 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>because you will see there's a lot of celebrities, that

979
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>guy of Constallation as well too, and they were really successful.

980
00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Then one day you just can't shit anymore.

981
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:12.800
<v Speaker 4>And that's suspicious, you know, that means something happened. Probably, Yeah,

982
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:14.920
<v Speaker 4>it sounds almost like there's some kind of a ritual

983
00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 4>that occurs there and that's just the cover story for it.

984
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

985
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Makes you wonder like how they killed, how they killed

986
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Chris Cornell and Tester Bennikin and stuff like that with

987
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the blood el sacrifice yep, all that kind of too.

988
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 2>And that chef guy whatever his name is, Chef Anthony Bourdein.

989
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:39.039
<v Speaker 2>They all died the same way, yeah, Anthony Boarding Yeah, yeah,

990
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Kate Stade the purse maker as she did the same way,

991
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.920
<v Speaker 2>like all around the same time. But yet they had

992
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:49.199
<v Speaker 2>broken bones. I mean, you're going to beat the shit

993
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:52.320
<v Speaker 2>out of yourself before you off yourself. Like really, that

994
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:57.239
<v Speaker 2>sounds like a great idea. Broken ribs everything. Chris Cornell's

995
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.000
<v Speaker 2>was really suspect. He had a lot of broken ribs.

996
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, David Bowie was really suspicious too, And then

997
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 1>after he dies, what album gets released Black Star and

998
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:12.320
<v Speaker 1>right on. There is just so much symbolism and stuff

999
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:15.760
<v Speaker 1>like that, and can we Prince died and all that

1000
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff too.

1001
00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh prince singing about dying in an elevator and he

1002
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:25.239
<v Speaker 2>dies in an elevator. Yeah, broke his hip before it happened.

1003
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, he just broke his hip that week, they say,

1004
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and he went to the hospital for medication. No, I

1005
00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:36.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. They'll beat that man. He'll beat that

1006
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:37.639
<v Speaker 1>tiny little man.

1007
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:44.519
<v Speaker 2>All of them makes you really step back and go, WHOA,

1008
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 2>what's happening here? It all goes back to nWo type stuff,

1009
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.320
<v Speaker 2>like every single bit of it, and all the religions

1010
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:54.480
<v Speaker 2>do too, by the way, like they're all a big

1011
00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:56.639
<v Speaker 2>part of it. Not that God's part of it. I'm

1012
00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>just saying, at some point, God gets corrupted in those

1013
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:05.199
<v Speaker 2>hearts of those men. Anytime you put your faith in men,

1014
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I promise you'll be disappointed, Like you have to put

1015
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 2>your faith somewhere else, because I don't. I don't do

1016
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:17.880
<v Speaker 2>that anymore. That's not for me, you know. Yeah, pool

1017
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:22.400
<v Speaker 2>me once, fool me once. Come on. Now, I'm okay

1018
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 2>over here. I'm okay over here. Like nah, I don't

1019
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 2>trust any of them anymore, especially after learning some things

1020
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:36.079
<v Speaker 2>this week, and I'm like, where are your shareholdings, Mormon Church,

1021
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 2>top ten, Tesla, Apple, all of them are like, like completely,

1022
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:51.679
<v Speaker 2>they're just all in together. Elon Musk's top dude is

1023
01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Jared Birchall, who is Mormon, and then one of the

1024
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:58.400
<v Speaker 2>top ten holdings of the Mormon Church is Tesla. I

1025
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:01.119
<v Speaker 2>think they're number ten. Apple's like number one. And by

1026
01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:07.400
<v Speaker 2>the way, United Healthcare Systems uhs, which I'm just like, oh, no,

1027
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:13.000
<v Speaker 2>wonder they've pushed that one thing in twenty twenty, got it? Gotcha? Yeah,

1028
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And now we know why.

1029
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:25.199
<v Speaker 1>Point pointing thing. I think where you're going down that

1030
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:25.599
<v Speaker 1>line to.

1031
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:26.280
<v Speaker 2>I think H. G.

1032
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Wells actually talks about religion and the technocracy in one

1033
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of his books a while ago. He like ties it

1034
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 1>all together too. I can't remember, Like I told you,

1035
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I read so much stuff. It's like I can't even

1036
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 1>remember all of it.

1037
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:44.719
<v Speaker 2>And then trying to find that one you know me,

1038
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.639
<v Speaker 2>I like to read because it's really not online, and

1039
01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:50.000
<v Speaker 2>they'll change it if they want to. They'll change it

1040
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 2>that they can go in. That's why they want everything digitized,

1041
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:58.320
<v Speaker 2>so they can just delete, you know. And even books

1042
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 2>are affected by like the what do you call it?

1043
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:08.840
<v Speaker 2>When things are weird? What is that. Yes, I totally

1044
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:13.960
<v Speaker 2>think that's a thing because I've seen some of the well,

1045
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I know some verses that have been affected because I've

1046
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:21.119
<v Speaker 2>talked to John Kerwin and he talks about the lion

1047
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and the lamb, and I remember that. I'm old enough

1048
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that I know it was the lion and the lamb,

1049
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:28.960
<v Speaker 2>but it isn't anymore. It's the wolf, the wolf and

1050
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:33.159
<v Speaker 2>the lamb. No, it wasn't. The lion has always been

1051
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:37.440
<v Speaker 2>representative of Christ always, and now you got a wolf there,

1052
01:02:37.559 --> 01:02:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going, wait a minute, what. It was definitely

1053
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:45.400
<v Speaker 2>the lion, though I remember that too. It was the lion.

1054
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:49.800
<v Speaker 2>It's representative, like he's he's the king, right, like this

1055
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:53.360
<v Speaker 2>is what we've always And then I'm like a wolf what?

1056
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:58.079
<v Speaker 2>And then but other people remember it differently and they

1057
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.760
<v Speaker 2>mandela the shit out of me on that one. I'm like, Okay,

1058
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I guess, but I think it was

1059
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:06.239
<v Speaker 2>the lion, but it's not. I found even my oldest

1060
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Bible says the wolf, and I'm like, ahh, that's a

1061
01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:17.280
<v Speaker 2>really old bible. I'm like, okay, that's weird. That's why

1062
01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:19.800
<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to memorize these things, even if you can't

1063
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.320
<v Speaker 2>remember what book gets from or whatever, you have the knowledge.

1064
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.199
<v Speaker 2>That's why we're supposed to have knowledge. That's why we're

1065
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:30.519
<v Speaker 2>supposed to do that, because they can do what they want. Money, magic,

1066
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.480
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of magic. People don't believe in magic.

1067
01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:33.840
<v Speaker 4>I do.

1068
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.960
<v Speaker 1>It's everywhere, there is everything. You just kind of have

1069
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:42.079
<v Speaker 1>to look for the light side of things. I think

1070
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 1>this whole world that we live in is basically magical,

1071
01:03:46.320 --> 01:03:47.320
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of people.

1072
01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Don't believe in that. A lot of people say it's

1073
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:57.559
<v Speaker 2>no such thing, and I'm like, okay, maybe, yeah.

1074
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder if that's that people are just freaking dumb,

1075
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:04.239
<v Speaker 1>because That's where I'm at with it now. I think

1076
01:04:04.239 --> 01:04:07.079
<v Speaker 1>that most people are just really dumb and they actually

1077
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:10.440
<v Speaker 1>do not care as long as they get to go

1078
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:12.480
<v Speaker 1>home and watch their TV and drink their coffee and

1079
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:16.280
<v Speaker 1>drink their alcohol and sit around and be lazy.

1080
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:18.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, I just worked too hard.

1081
01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:20.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have to think about I don't

1082
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:22.119
<v Speaker 1>want to have to think about how I'm being mind

1083
01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:24.800
<v Speaker 1>controlled after working first.

1084
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:32.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, It's true, they don't want to. Yeah, I

1085
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:34.440
<v Speaker 2>get it. I try to tell people something sometimes and

1086
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:37.239
<v Speaker 2>they're like, why does it matter. Like I try to

1087
01:04:37.239 --> 01:04:40.360
<v Speaker 2>tell my stepdad about the Mandela, and I said, how

1088
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:44.000
<v Speaker 2>does the end of We Are the Champions? And and

1089
01:04:44.039 --> 01:04:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I told him the song and then he's like, he

1090
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.519
<v Speaker 2>said the right verse, you know. And then he's like

1091
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:52.719
<v Speaker 2>he's like, yeah, it ends like this, and I'm like, no,

1092
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.800
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't anymore. And he's like, yes, it does. And

1093
01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, it doesn't. And so I was trying

1094
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:00.519
<v Speaker 2>to explain it to him and he goes, who cares,

1095
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm scared me because he knows music. Yeah, he knows music.

1096
01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:10.599
<v Speaker 2>He didn't want to hear it exactly. That's how people act. Yeah.

1097
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like, that's that's my biggest problem. That

1098
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.400
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest problem on the planet. It's not that

1099
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:19.280
<v Speaker 1>anything is being done to us, is that the majority

1100
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 1>of us are too stupid to allow any kind of

1101
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:25.440
<v Speaker 1>freedom in their lives. Like the word freedom this kind

1102
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of implies freedom all the way, Like empowerment only comes

1103
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 1>through taking responsibility for yourself.

1104
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 2>But it's just too hard. It's too hard for the

1105
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.639
<v Speaker 2>average person. Oh, and I think, like you said, they're

1106
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.760
<v Speaker 2>just happy. Like he was busy, he was mownislawn or something,

1107
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, I don't. I don't have time

1108
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:46.400
<v Speaker 2>for your nonsense, right, And I'm like, well, what if

1109
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:49.400
<v Speaker 2>it's not nonsense? What if this is important? You know,

1110
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:52.159
<v Speaker 2>like what if it changed your bible that you care about?

1111
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:54.519
<v Speaker 2>And he's like it did not. I'm like, well, I

1112
01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:59.000
<v Speaker 2>guess I better not tell him.

1113
01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like, for him, you can mow your lawn

1114
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and self reflect too, but they don't want to hear that.

1115
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:09.400
<v Speaker 2>You didn't want to hear that. He definitely was weird

1116
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:12.719
<v Speaker 2>it out he and he knows like he knows because

1117
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 2>he's like, so one day there's this and one day

1118
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.440
<v Speaker 2>there's that. Oh well, and like I was like, yeah,

1119
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:20.800
<v Speaker 2>but you're you recognize it, you saw it. You know

1120
01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling the truth. And he's like, no, you know,

1121
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:27.840
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to It scares him. I honestly think

1122
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:30.760
<v Speaker 2>for him, it scares him. He doesn't want to deal

1123
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:34.239
<v Speaker 2>with that process like that that could be possible that

1124
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:36.719
<v Speaker 2>they could mess with lyrics, or that could be possible

1125
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:41.559
<v Speaker 2>that they could mess with whatever. You know, right, And

1126
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you can go back, like even in live shows,

1127
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:49.320
<v Speaker 2>it'll change everywhere, Like on the Mandela John has gone

1128
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:53.039
<v Speaker 2>back and showed things where it was like a live concert,

1129
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:56.159
<v Speaker 2>and this happened and it didn't happen now and now

1130
01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:59.480
<v Speaker 2>it's like gone, like that word or that phrase or whatever,

1131
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, what blew my mind? I didn't even

1132
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:07.800
<v Speaker 2>know that that could happen. Like I was like, Okay,

1133
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:12.000
<v Speaker 2>that's weird because at first I thought they fix like

1134
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:16.559
<v Speaker 2>what's current, you know what I mean, like currently, But no,

1135
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:20.280
<v Speaker 2>they can fix other things. So then go backwards. Yeah exactly.

1136
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.039
<v Speaker 2>It's just oh, it just pisses me off.

1137
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Height I just have never been the personality type to

1138
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:34.440
<v Speaker 1>just sit there and take something just because it just

1139
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:35.039
<v Speaker 1>bothers me.

1140
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Same, I always speak out, but then people think you're nuts.

1141
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:43.519
<v Speaker 2>So I guess I'm a little nuts. I don't know,

1142
01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:47.800
<v Speaker 2>but I still keep talking. I'm like, that's what they

1143
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.280
<v Speaker 2>get to know, and then it makes you. Hopefully we'll

1144
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:54.840
<v Speaker 2>drive enough people toward reading or studying things for themselves

1145
01:07:54.960 --> 01:08:00.239
<v Speaker 2>and they can see what we see. Maybe hopefully that's

1146
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:01.679
<v Speaker 2>what I hope.

1147
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, just to get back on topic before we

1148
01:08:05.360 --> 01:08:08.719
<v Speaker 1>wrap this up, So what would you say to parents

1149
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that find themselves in a similar situation where like something

1150
01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 1>obviously happens with their child and they don't want to

1151
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:18.000
<v Speaker 1>have a relationship.

1152
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:19.399
<v Speaker 2>With them anymore, but they know that they didn't do

1153
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:20.000
<v Speaker 2>anything wrong.

1154
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Like maybe it's a narcissist, which I think are demonic spirit.

1155
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure, Yeah it could be. You know, it

1156
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:32.680
<v Speaker 2>could be. First you really do have to examine yourself.

1157
01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think anytime somebody abruptly ends a relationship,

1158
01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:41.680
<v Speaker 2>especially a kid or like vice versa, like with parents, whatever,

1159
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>because that's like your core people, if you're willing to

1160
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:49.119
<v Speaker 2>cut you know, your arm off basically, like that's like

1161
01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:52.399
<v Speaker 2>an arm of yourself. Like there's got to be something

1162
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:57.560
<v Speaker 2>that's very very serious going on. And people always say, well,

1163
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.000
<v Speaker 2>she probably was abusive, She probably was this. She probably

1164
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're the mom, especially, you're going to

1165
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:05.560
<v Speaker 2>get that. You're going to get like, oh they deserve it,

1166
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:07.800
<v Speaker 2>then she must be a bad mom. Dah da dah.

1167
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:11.000
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, for a year, I played that game.

1168
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:13.279
<v Speaker 2>For a year, I played that game in my mind

1169
01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:16.520
<v Speaker 2>like maybe I am a narcissist. One time, this doctor

1170
01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.880
<v Speaker 2>at work. I was talking to this doctor and he goes, Heidi,

1171
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I can tell you why you're not a narcissist. He

1172
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:25.239
<v Speaker 2>started laughing and I was like, don't laugh, it's serious,

1173
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Like what, and he's like, narcissists don't ask if they're

1174
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:35.359
<v Speaker 2>a narcissist. He's like, if you're asking, then you're you're

1175
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.079
<v Speaker 2>concerned about it, and they don't care. They will never

1176
01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.000
<v Speaker 2>ask themselves that question because they don't want to know

1177
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:45.399
<v Speaker 2>that answer. I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, so yes, I

1178
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:48.000
<v Speaker 2>think you know, you got to look at yourself. You

1179
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:50.920
<v Speaker 2>got to do some self work, for sure. But then

1180
01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:53.800
<v Speaker 2>if you've done everything within your power, right, you've done

1181
01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:57.279
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff, you've reached out, you've tried, you have

1182
01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:00.960
<v Speaker 2>ez like exhausted every effort that you can think of,

1183
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:04.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's still not getting anywhere, then we have to

1184
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:06.279
<v Speaker 2>look at the story of the Prodigal Sun. And I

1185
01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:10.560
<v Speaker 2>think that's in there for a reason because, right it

1186
01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:14.880
<v Speaker 2>teaches us to wait, which I hate because I'm very

1187
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:17.720
<v Speaker 2>much like, I'm just gonna go there. I'm just gonna

1188
01:10:17.760 --> 01:10:19.840
<v Speaker 2>go there. I'm gonna drive there, I'm gonna show up

1189
01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:22.680
<v Speaker 2>on a doorstep, I'm gonna tell them, and then I'm

1190
01:10:22.720 --> 01:10:26.279
<v Speaker 2>like and then I'm gonna look crazy. And so I

1191
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:28.840
<v Speaker 2>prayed about it, prayed about it every time I get

1192
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:31.560
<v Speaker 2>a no, Nope, you're not driving there, Nope, you're not

1193
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.720
<v Speaker 2>going there. Nope, you're not going to do that. And

1194
01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, that sucks because I'm very like head

1195
01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:41.399
<v Speaker 2>on person, like I want to like an attempt to

1196
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.560
<v Speaker 2>fix it head on, but every time I got a

1197
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:51.119
<v Speaker 2>know on that. So I'm like, pray, wait, think, and

1198
01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:54.000
<v Speaker 2>get curses off of your life. That's like the main

1199
01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:56.359
<v Speaker 2>like try and get them off of your life, because

1200
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you can't do anything about theirs. If it is an attachment,

1201
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.199
<v Speaker 2>pray against it. But like, ultimately, like you said, right

1202
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:05.880
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, it has to be

1203
01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:09.359
<v Speaker 2>them that chooses, like that cut off has to come

1204
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:13.920
<v Speaker 2>from somewhere better than me because it's their choice.

1205
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1206
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:18.319
<v Speaker 2>If you're letting something in your life, you can't get

1207
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:20.640
<v Speaker 2>rid of that for them. That's why we have to

1208
01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.079
<v Speaker 2>teach our kids to stand on their own feet. But

1209
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I do say, I always leave my door open. I

1210
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:29.439
<v Speaker 2>will never shut my door. I will never shut my

1211
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:31.239
<v Speaker 2>door and say you can't come home, or you can't

1212
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:33.279
<v Speaker 2>call me, or you can't see me. I'll never do

1213
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:36.840
<v Speaker 2>to her what she's doing to me because it's sick,

1214
01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's a sickness almost because you don't get better

1215
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.159
<v Speaker 2>that way. If you're angry at someone, You're going to

1216
01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 2>be angry at them until you talk to them and

1217
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:50.000
<v Speaker 2>resolve the problem. You don't resolve anything with silence. That

1218
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:54.439
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't work. And so if you can communicate, try it.

1219
01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:59.359
<v Speaker 2>If you can do it with somebody impartial, probably better idea.

1220
01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, therapy, I go back and forth on I

1221
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:05.840
<v Speaker 2>think it's best to make sure the person is in

1222
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:09.840
<v Speaker 2>your best interests because a lot of times now paid

1223
01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:12.960
<v Speaker 2>therapists like a paid person in your life, like somebody

1224
01:12:12.960 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 2>that has a gain to get. Make sure they're doing

1225
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.119
<v Speaker 2>it for the right reasons because just like doctors that

1226
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:21.439
<v Speaker 2>keep people sick sometimes that too, right, they want to

1227
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:23.239
<v Speaker 2>be the person if they step in and say, kick

1228
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:26.520
<v Speaker 2>your mom out of your life forever, then now you're

1229
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 2>going to your therapist for everything. So I mean it

1230
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.840
<v Speaker 2>kind is a moneymaker there, so be careful, right, be

1231
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:36.560
<v Speaker 2>careful of advice. But that goes on both sides of

1232
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:41.119
<v Speaker 2>that story. But like also protect you have to always

1233
01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:44.760
<v Speaker 2>protect yourself because what if she does have that and

1234
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<v Speaker 2>she came back tomorrow. You know what if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my stinch to her is bad because I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>live this good path now, Like they say that, they

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<v Speaker 2>say that you know, believers will be hated like the

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<v Speaker 2>minute they come in a room. And sometimes I feel that, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Like sometimes you can feel that on people. And so

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you can just only pray. But a journal I prayed,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the scriptures. I just try to do

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<v Speaker 2>what I can do within my power and give the

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<v Speaker 2>rest to God, because you can't. You cannot force it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you try, you're gonna look psychotic. So force is

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<v Speaker 2>not of God anyways. Honestly, forces control isn't God's. God

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't control like that, Like, that's not a thing. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why we have free choice. So I can only hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I have hope, and I will ever give that up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and love and I can love her from a bar.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And what I'll say to a lot of parents

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<v Speaker 1>out there that I might be listening is like, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you do everything right. Sometimes you do everything the right way,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've made all the right choices as best as

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<v Speaker 1>you could, and your kid still turns into psychopath and

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like you. I've been through it, So sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>can't control it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes and usually it's under the influence of someone else

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<v Speaker 1>or something else, And there's nothing you could do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>As hard as that might be to hear for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, because I'm sure there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that are going through this or something similar, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, you just got to work on yourself, work on yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>pray for everyone. And like for my granddaughter, I did

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<v Speaker 2>start a journal for her just because I want her

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<v Speaker 2>to know, like, I would never choose, like someday that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a question, right like where were you?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what happened to you? Dumb lady like, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like, no, no, I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do this. So here's this because I want her to

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<v Speaker 2>know that would never be my decision to stay away,

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<v Speaker 2>because I just wouldn't do that. So alas I have

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<v Speaker 2>that to give to her, she ever does seek me out,

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<v Speaker 2>which most often happens, so yeah, yeah can help. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>WELLI I gotta get out of here. Thank you, Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>you very much for having me on. Yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks for being on Bonus Authenticity Podcast. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you'll come back sometime soon. Tell everybody where they can

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<v Speaker 1>find you.

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<v Speaker 2>I am at the Unfiltered Rice Podcast. I am everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts are served. I do have a website now, Unfiltered

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<v Speaker 2>Rice podcast dot com, and you can find me on

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<v Speaker 2>all of those platforms. YouTube is only once a week,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas Spotify if you followed me there, it's twice a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Because YouTube is hard. YouTube is not liking my vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll put it that way. Also on ig All right

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<v Speaker 2>and great, well that's a wrap. That's all, kay soon bye.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Johannes Satur, a CTAA, accredited cognitive behavioral therapist, hypnotherapist,

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<v Speaker 1>nutrition coach, mindfulness teacher, and specialist in the area of

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<v Speaker 1>subconscious self sabotage.

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<v Speaker 2>You may also know me.

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<v Speaker 1>As the host of Boundless Authenticity. I assist by showing

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<v Speaker 1>people of all walks of life how to be mindful

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<v Speaker 1>and allow the negative automatic thoughts about the events of

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<v Speaker 1>the external and the associated programs to reveal themselves fully

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can learn to establish deep inner peace

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<v Speaker 1>and operate from purpose and passion. Much of my work

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<v Speaker 1>focuses on removing the disempowering thoughts and beliefs from the

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<v Speaker 1>subconscious mind which cause us to create less than favorable

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<v Speaker 1>emotional consequences and circumstances. I teach you various ways to

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<v Speaker 1>change internal dialogue, clear harsh memories and emotions, and de

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<v Speaker 1>lead useless information from the subconscious. I also teach when

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<v Speaker 1>to meditate, how to meditate, and why you have certain

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and feelings during meditation and how to handle them effectively.

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<v Speaker 1>If you or someone you know are struggling with self

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<v Speaker 1>sabotaging behaviors and harsh emotional consequences, please do contact me

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<v Speaker 1>at self sabotage Info at proton dot me. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Boundless Authenticity podcast, where we discuss everything related

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<v Speaker 1>to the evolution of human consciousness.

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<v Speaker 3>That's very least you to understand that the United States films.

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<v Speaker 2>Bunkers, which are basically cities your every three months conscious

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<v Speaker 2>creativity and imaginations and alter real large quote for howp

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<v Speaker 2>their soul by how the are cultures and spectro altery cultures,

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<v Speaker 2>so aborium you of a party.

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<v Speaker 3>We live in a multidimensional reality, whether it comes through

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<v Speaker 3>esitary information in the spiritual realms or the UFO people experiences,

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<v Speaker 3>or mainstream through unit physics and through natrem science, and

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<v Speaker 3>now realizing that parallel dimensions probably exist, we're all spiritual needs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all having these human experiences. We've heard that place

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over, but what does that really mean?

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<v Speaker 2>In all of the questions about we have these answers

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<v Speaker 2>inside of.

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<v Speaker 3>Our souls, we're ultimately studying the nature of what it

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<v Speaker 3>is to be human, good and evil, our.

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<v Speaker 2>Psychology, how we're fitting our health.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I love Bruce Lee's wet quote all knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>is ultimately self knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Boundaries for Authenticity podcast