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Challenge pod dot com has linked all the stuff Facebook
group patriots around Pretty.
Speaker 1: Sure it's still linked to the Instagram, which like you
did the first time around and I have done the
second time around, it's just kind of gone by the wayside.
It's still there, just.
Speaker 2: Motivated to do it when yeah, we don't get any
interaction with anything.
Speaker 1: There's so much other ship going on that like we
just both have we both have lives that we have
to deal with, and yeah, I love you, but I
cannot play with right now.
Speaker 2: Fuck meta, fuck all that ship. Yes stah for social media,
it's ruining your lives. This is fifty episode seven. This
one's called That's not how I play Survivor. Uh Coln,
do you live riso yet?
Speaker 1: Okay? I I do not love you do?
Speaker 2: Yes you do?
Speaker 1: In this episode, I appreciated. I was actually surprised how
well he actually does seem to be able to play
this game. Some of the ship that he said this episode.
Speaker 2: Was yep, crushing it. Yep, gotta love raising.
Speaker 1: Uh you know spoiler right off the bat, I'm really
fucking annoyed. The coach shouldn't get home. It's such a chance,
it's such a good chance. It's such a good chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the coaches annoying. Coach is super annoying, intolerable, we'll
get into we'll get into intolerable coach.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: This is the night of the blood Moon, so all
of the tribes are coming back from blood Moon. We
start off with Tiffany's tribe. No, yes, Tiffany, she's.
Speaker 1: Very up keeps trying to give me her ball, and
I just we can't do that right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're podcasting dog. Yeah, she's pissed. She is really
upset about the Camilla vote. She thinks Jonathan lied to her,
which he did. I get why she's upset, and she
seems to be more upset in the confessionals than to him.
So I don't know, this seems all right, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I appreciate how mature she was when she
told them all like nope, I just need to sit
in my feelings for right now because I don't want
to blow up at anybody because it's not what I
want to do. So I appreciated that. But yeah, she
does seem way more upset in her confessionals. And then
there isn't we don't. I don't remember seeing any sort
of payoff of her, like actually sitting down and talking
to him being like dude, the fuck. Yeah, you know,
that she said she was going to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the second group comes back from their tribal. This
is the one where Genevieve's tribal where she got booted.
The conversation here is why Aubrey didn't play her idol
when she said that she was going to.
Speaker 1: Be such a big deal.
Speaker 2: I didn't either, And I think it was mostly that
she lied about it. She's just like it just so
much is happening. I just it just slipped my mind. Whatever.
Obviously bullshit, Yeah she shouldn't.
Speaker 1: She should, Like, I don't feel like she necessarily lied,
Like she saw the way the wind was blowing and
just kind of decided not to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think she would have gotten better at
that explanation. She should have just said that, like, hey,
she played her shot in the dark and she wasn't safe,
so I felt safe, so I felt like I could
keep it another week.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the moment that her not safe thing
came out, she immediately put it back in her pocket,
like just fucking say that, like they're not gonna fault you.
I mean they probably would, but it's a better explanation
than I forgot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she could say something back of camps,
like all three of us can use this or you
know whatever whatever she could have said. But yes, and
this comes back to bite her. But I like that Christian.
You know, immediately knew that she was full of shit,
but he just went around repeating her story to everybody,
which I thought was kind of a clever way to
deal with it instead of call her out, just like
make everybody else call her out.
Speaker 1: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was Aubrey, My girl, Aubrey. And then
their says.
Speaker 1: In the chat room. Aubrey said that I think she
thought everyone would vote in one vote and top three
would be gone. I don't I don't understand what that means.
Speaker 2: All three tribals would happen all the same time. I
think it's what he's saying, oh, in set of like
each tribal. Yeah, because I mean I think Aubrey felt
pretty safe. I think she knew all the votes were
going on gen and now we know Jen is not safe.
So it seems like Aubrey, you don't have to you
don't have to use it. Yeah, but then yeah, she
should included her or she could have. I guess she
should have said to her tried mates ahead of time. Like,
if she gets not safe, I'm not gonna play my
idol or come back and just say why she didn't
play it. But yeah, it turns out to this will
haunt her for a minute, all right. And then the
third group comes back, tells them that Colby is gone.
Jonathan and Coach talk about the Colby departure, but mostly
as a as a plan to get back at d
So that's kind of where their leverage is going here, Karl.
If I had to guess, I'd say this is where
you start hating coach because he gets all self righteous
and fucking exaggerates everything.
Speaker 1: He gets self righteous.
Speaker 2: We're gonna battle shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole Dragon Slayer bullshit. Like I don't, I don't.
I mean, I know that he's been around for a
while and apparently this is his thing, but Chris's so
with this, uh with this. The first time I'm watching
the full season of Survivor, I have decided that Coach
is the Johnny Bananas. I agree with that. He feels
like the Johnny Bananas.
Speaker 2: Like the type of person you what another hang out
with Bananas than coach. Coaches just seems intolerable to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like that about Bananas. But
really I feel like they are the same type of person,
where like they they think that they were going to
be the ones running the game regardless of what's going on,
and you know, everybody's going to listen to them and
there it's their way or the highway, and yep, it
just but yeah, I mean coach and his fucking hikups and.
Speaker 2: Like, uh yeah, we'll get into that too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was not I was not enjoying watching him.
Speaker 2: Not impressed. No, coach is awful. So with the next morning,
now Coach is calling D out on her lies. Jonathan
comes up and yells at D. Also, they just start
this big temper tantrum fight and Jonathan and one of
his confessionals says, really, his only goal here is he
just wants to get d you're kind of riled up
and kind of emotional, and get her to say something stupid.
And I think his plan does kind of work. D
does kind of get exposed here for kind of playing
both sides and lying to a couple of different people,
and she's put on her defenses.
Speaker 1: I was actually I was surprised that that was coming
out of Jonathan when he said that he you know,
he played us part perfectly and like that's what he
was trying to do. And it's like, oh, oh, like,
are are there some brains under that hot face or
hot body?
Speaker 2: No, no, there's not.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe maybe one or two brains sells occasionally.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see, we'll see how it goes. So this
is coach talking again on you play this game with
honor and integrity and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Stupid shit. I know, but we're starting to see some
some of the tides turning against coach. Emily Devins and
Aubrey notably do not like him. They're all kind of
talking about him, talking behind his back. This is the
first coach haiku, so stupid I did, Like did you
catch Christian at the end, like counting the syllables on
his fingers? Oh, but that was pretty clever. Oh man,
you know after a coach was done, he was like, hey,
how about that guy is a nice one, And Christian
is just over there going like yeah, ik, Christians, just
get to man. I like that guy.
Speaker 1: I do too. I also I am confused. Well I'll
hold this for a little bit. Okay, keep going okay.
Speaker 2: Morning of day fourteen, we get Coach again talking crazy shit.
This time is to Joe. Joe's like hanging into out
in the hammock and uh, Coach is talking about swords
and shit, and Joe was like looking at him like
he's an insane person.
Speaker 1: Yes it was. He was looking at him like, why
are you telling me this? Like why did I align
myself with this guy? This guy is fucking nuts.
Speaker 2: He is too, He's a total nut job.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: So, Riz and Ozzy returned from their journey and many.
Speaker 1: At this point in time, I had completely forgotten that
they weren't there.
Speaker 2: I know, me too, me too. But they arrive here
and Rizzo imediately just like where is everybody? Because yeah,
I don't think any of them thought that three people
were going to go home.
Speaker 1: He also made the comment of like it feels like
a bomb got dropped, or maybe it was Ozzy, one
of the two of them, was like, it feels like
a bomb got dropped at some point in time because
no one is talking to like, everybody seems kind of
pissed and the vibes are weird right now. I don't
know what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think this is they just had that
big fight, you know, and d and everything was just
I think just a little bit ago here. So anyway, yeah,
but they thinkured they made the jury, so there's some
good news there. And this is where coach then recruits
Riz to be the fourth of his four horsemen.
Speaker 1: Which where the hell did this four horsemen thing come from?
I hate I hate when they name their alliances.
Speaker 2: I know it's a recent survivor thing they do that.
Now they make them name their alliance.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we talked about this in the challenge. Shit,
because we've had multiple alliances in the Challenge recently get named. Yeah,
and I hate them. I hate them completely.
Speaker 2: I do too, with the exception of was it Seri's
Wizard of Oz? That's that's a good one. Wizard of Oz.
That the trifecta Suri, Rizzo and Azzy.
Speaker 1: Miss apparently, oh yeah, is pretty good.
Speaker 2: The coach tries to recruit Riz and like does the
same like self righteous ship. He ends it with like,
let's be dangerous together. Rizzo. Oh that's just so eye
roll cringey ship. Yes, uh. And Rizzo is just I
fucking love this kid. He's just he just nods the
coach says everything right, like, yes, I'm in, I can't wait. Yes,
let's do this. Oh. The coach then cut right to
his confessionally, it's like, oh, coach is full of ship.
Actually have his direct quote. He says, oh, thanks, you
need me since you're remember down, I'll nod my head
and say I love you. Dragons Layer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was Honestly, it was the best way
to play that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean he sees through this ship like right
away and just does what he has to do to
kind of skirt on by and this comes back to
reward him later.
Speaker 1: It's also one of those like I don't understand how
anybody wouldn't just like if they if they were quote
unquote unquote recruited into the Dragon Slayer four Horsemen bullshit,
how they wouldn't immediately be like uh huh, yeah, okay,
sure share coach, yep, I'll do what you want type
of thing, just to placate him, like coach. It's obviously
such bullshit, like what yeah, yeah A. Chris's Colby said
during his exit press that he was not fully on
board with the Honor and Integrity Alliance, so it sounds
like he was just maybe he was just playing it
up for the cameras or that was the edit they
were giving him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like he was close with coach. I
don't think I saw him talk to Joe w here's
the other one, Jonathan.
Speaker 1: Who is the other one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: John? And that was Edward by the way, Hey EDWARDO.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry EDWARDO. Yes.
Speaker 2: Oh uh. This is where we get the Rizard of
OZ part. This is Siri and Rizzo. They're talking about
their little threesome here, and this is where we find
out that Emily knows about Rizzo's idol. Emily came up
and told Rizzo like, hey, I know you have an idol.
Rizzo's like, what the fuck? Who told you that? And
Emily says that D told her that.
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised. I thought more people knew that
Rizzo had an idol, So when he was surprised by it,
I was kind of like, Oh, was this relatively common
knowledge like the other ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's relatively common because the only
person that Rizzo told was D. Now, it does turn out,
we're about to learn right at this exact second that
D told Tiffany, Jonathan, and Emily all of them about
Rizzo's idol. So it's not as secret as we thought
that it was. And D is just straight up caught here.
So Rizzo confronts D, but D denies it. I'm want
to do that ship whenever I can, she annoys me.
You're gonna love it too, Carlyn. She confesses that she
did tell Emily Aboutrizzo's idol.
Speaker 1: Ah wait, I thought she said no, she didn't. Am
I miss remembering that.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying to decipher
my note here. I think that she confesses to Tiffany
that she told Emily not to. I think that's what
I mean.
Speaker 1: Yez. She was like, no, I don't know who said that.
It wasn't me. Rizzo wasn't fucking buying it at all.
Speaker 2: Forget this one out, and he's ready to cut her off. Man,
he's done with her. Yeah, so she knows she was caught.
She knows it was messy. Even in her confessional, she
sort of is like, fuck, I got caught here. It's
those bad times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I truly I don't understand how she won her season.
Speaker 2: It's very charming. She got a she got a strong
number two who was just like Google Gaga for her.
Speaker 1: She's not charming, she's annoying as fuck. She's a bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty though.
Speaker 1: I guess I just I'm my my seeing her is
the it is the challenge, and I just, you know,
the fucking to me there. And honestly, there's a very
good chance that a lot of this is tied. And
because she was fucking around Johnny Bananas and thought that
she was safe in that in that game because of him. Yeah,
so it very well could just be that.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I guess we'll see. No, we won't, No,
we won't. It's over with. That boat comes pulling up
to the beach. Lee's an ominous note. They just basically
have to pick somebody to go on this journey, no
other details, of course, and nobody wants to go. Nobody's volunteering,
so they decide to draw their shots in the dark
to decide who goes, and Stephanie gets the either good
or bad luck, depending on how you look at it.
Stephanie thinks bad luck, so she goes on and to
this challenge long story short, you got to hold your
hand over your head for an hour. She is going
to struggle with this one because she has shoulder issues.
I even talked about this during our preseason recap. That's
the only thing that I remember from Stephanie is that, Yeah,
and how did she just popped it right back or
she didn't do it, but the medics did it, just
popped it right back and then she played like the
rest of the season. Yeah, that was very badass, but
it's you know, she still does an injured shoulder, so
she's not great at this, but ultimately she does do it.
She lasts her hour, she gets her reward. Her reward
in this case is a steal a boat advantage, and
she's on the boat back.
Speaker 1: I do have to give her props. She at least
came up with a better story than who was it
Kyle or whoever it was that came back the last time. No,
it wasn't Kyle, it was the it was the woman
who won Savannah, Yeah, whoever won last season who came
back and was like, oh, yeah, you know, it was
just you either get to keep your vote or lose
your vote, and no one bought the story. So she
at least came up with a better one than that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is not the worst story in the world.
It's basically the whole truth, except that she said, if
you hold your arm up more than thirty minutes, you
keep your vote an hour, you get an advantage, and
she dropped it at thirty. Yeah, so from what she's saying,
like I tried, I got enough to keep my vote,
but that's all I.
Speaker 1: Got, yeah, which I mean, I can definitely see how
everybody would then start clocking her like she looked. She
obviously looks like she is relatively fit and should be
able to do holding your hand over your head for
an hour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, the only person that we see call
her out though is Suri, and again, like this is
why Suria is so fucking good at this game. Suri
didn't have to call her out, she didn't have to
do fuck all anything. She just kind of smiled. She
just kind of smiled and laughed and and Stephanie even
like tried to reinforce her lie again, like what that's
really what happened in like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe you,
just like but with that smile of just like you're
so full of shit that then Stephanie instantly was just
like okay, all right, I got this steal a vote
thing uh so, yeah, Seren, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean she still should have at least. That's the other
problem is that if you're going to tell a lie,
then you need to kind of make up the if
someone figures out that it'll it's a lie, figure out
a way to be like not that you've got to
steal a vote, but like, I mean literally anything else.
I don't know. Maybe maybe that is the best one
to talk about.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think at this point, all Stephanie can
do is fess up, because we've seen people if they
if they lie, if nobody knows what you have, they're
gonna try to flesh it out. Ye Yeah, Now that
Seren knows and she's suri at the at this moment
is the only one who knows, It's like maybe she
could use that terr advantage later somehow, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, and Cristil has the extra vote.
Speaker 2: Oh they don't that only those three know about only
the Yeah's Wizard of Oz knows about.
Speaker 1: Yeap, which I mean it would be kind of funny
if if they got played at the same time, like
unbeknownst to Stephanie got played at the same time, so
Cerre's extra vote didn't count. And Stephanie's steal a vote.
Speaker 2: Did oh yeah, yeah, which I mean, I guess.
Speaker 1: I don't know how steal a vote? It does it
if you steal a vote, because I know, like if
you have an extra vote based off of what you
guys have said, no one will know. You just go
into the booth and you play two votes instead of one.
If you steal a vote, do you have to say
that ahead of time, like Stephanie telling so, I'm stealing
your vote and then go in and vote twice.
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I don't know, chat room, do
you know these mechanics of that. I know we've seen
a stealer vote before, but I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Or is it like if you go you played two
votes and say that you are stealing Serie's vote while
in the booth. Yeah, she doesn't even know that hers
doesn't count until later.
Speaker 2: Being read Yeah, well hopefully we'll find out before the
end of the season. I don't recall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Serie is the only one now who knows
about Stephanie's extra vote or steal a vote, and she
immediately runs and tells Rizzo, who is seems like a
weird one to tell, but I think they just have
like this good trust Rizzo and Serie. So yes, so
now Siien and Rizzo.
Speaker 1: Well, you keep saying that he's really good at playing
this game, so maybe she has recognized that. Maybe she
also thinks that he's really good at playing this game
and has decided like he's the one that she wants
to confide these sorts of things then, because they're more
likely to continue on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Edward says, the person knows it. When they go
to vote, it says another paper, Yes, I can I
remember that now. Yes, So they go up to.
Speaker 1: The person whose vote is being stolen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so instead of being a blank piece of parchment,
it will say like you cannot vote your votes in stolen,
return to your seat or whatever. It says. Yeah. Yeah,
rais crushing this game. They're the ones, the only ones
that know literally every single secret advantage across the board.
Speaker 1: Well except for the hidden fake.
Speaker 2: Idol, hidden fake idol.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Devons and Christian I they they mentioned it
again in the obviously on they mentioned it again. I
was so convinced that it was going to come into
play this episode.
Speaker 2: We're going to see it. Man. It keeps going back
to it.
Speaker 1: They keep bringing it up like it has to be shown.
Speaker 2: They're gonna come back normally.
Speaker 1: I'm the one who's yawning.
Speaker 2: I had a long, long week. Man, Oh, contagious across
the internet. Contagious. Look at that.
Speaker 1: At least I'm not a psycho, or not at least
I'm not a sociopath. Yeah. If you see someone who
I think it's specifically like people who you care about,
if you see them yawning, then it is. It's usually
contagious if.
Speaker 2: You don't back your sociopath pretty much.
Speaker 1: And if you don't yawn, I think that's that could
also just be me talking out of my ass, just
something I learned from, like, you know, one of the
many shows like I don't know my es or some
shit like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I remember MythBusters did a thing on if
yawns were actually contagious and they found out that they are.
Oh Carlins yawning. But I'm not going to be on
I'm a sociopath.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't get.
Speaker 2: The whole yond yawn out. Chris has that sounds scientific.
I have my doubts because I didn't yawn just now.
But I don't think I'm a sociopath. All right, I
guess I don't know either. How would I know? There
like an online quiz I can take or some ship
I'm we'll do that in the after show. Okay, so
now we're under the reward immunity challenge. Not even gonna
try to find the media clip for that. Edward are
yawn for you?
Speaker 1: Cit He's just kidding.
Speaker 2: The reward of this episode is Chinese takeout food with brownies. Weird,
weird take it.
Speaker 1: We talked last time about winning Applebee's and just how
fucked up your digestive system would be after the fact
you're now giving them Chinese takeout and brownies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also weird a system would be fun. I've
had a lot of rice, and I assume this Chinese
takeout has a lot of rice. You should want. You
should want some non ricey things, in my opinion. But anyway,
they're gonna divide this this this whole Jeez, Carling, now.
Speaker 1: You're I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: It's got all the ons man.
Speaker 1: The main part of the yawn is just stuck and
it won't come out.
Speaker 2: Mendy Mendy and mere cycle paths. Uh So. The way
that this one works, the teams are gonna be divided
up into two teams, or the tribe is gonna be
divided up into two teams. The first half that wins
the first try. A team that wins gets the reward,
and they gets pete for individual immunity. If you don't
win the first round, you're just out. And yeah, that's
how this goes. So I took no notes. I don't know.
I liked how close the puzzle was, but generally speaking,
I don't know nothing all that much interesting Carlin anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked how close the puzzle was as well.
I was a little bit worried that Christian wasn't Christian
Emily weren't going to get the the prize, and I
wanted them to.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're rooting for them, yep.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't remember much. I didn't
really paid I paid attention, but didn't really care much
about what was going on with the challenge. I liked
that it was another like fast paced one that required
everybody to be doing things and not just like stand
there and hold themselves up. But yes, so I enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have the list of the peak of the
teammates that got to the individual immunity challenge. That's Christian, Emily, Joe, Ozzie,
Devin's and Stephanie. So they all get reward and they
get to compete for individual immunity. The individual immunity.
Speaker 1: Carlin, you stop calling it out and I will finish.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to Carlin. You've never seen this show,
but this is This balance challenge is one they've done often.
It's kind of a staple.
Speaker 1: I found this one slightly more entertaining than the one
where they were holding themselves up against a wall last week,
but it's still boring.
Speaker 2: These endurance things are kind of boring, and this was
kind of boring, and the Stephanie with the arm over
the head was kind of boring. I like the endurance challenges,
but yes, I think one per episode is bad enough
for me. I said, too, that's too many Christmas for me. Specifically,
I was hoping Christian Emily would not have been to
blame for a loss. Oh, yes, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Christian and Emily were the ones putting
the puzzle together for their team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I felt.
Speaker 1: Like that as well. Yeah, on the on the winning team,
then they go for the immunity and I swear to God.
When we were watching this, because this is before all
the coach stuff really took off, I was like, fuck, de,
he is going for immunity. Does that mean that he
gets immunity? God damn it is he gonna get immunity
and then she loses.
Speaker 2: It's great when that happens. Though. It's great when somebody's
on the you know, like on the chopping board, and
then they win immunity. I love that when that happens,
because then everybody scrambles, Everybody kind of freaks out for
a minute, which is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand that. I just I didn't want
to have to deal with her anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get it. I was glad we de
dropped hers because I don't like d But anyway, Ozzie wins,
and as coach or now a coach, As Jeff is
putting on his immunity necklace, he tells Ozzie that he's
got eight individual immunities now compared to Boston Rob who
has nine the most. Ever, so Ozzie is like on
the cusp of winning. We can see Ozzie tie or
overtaken the season. We'll see how this one goes yep.
All right, and we get Tiffany, Chrissy, Jonathan and Rizzo.
They're all talking about D. Tiffany doesn't like this because
she's just very close to D. She doesn't want D
thrown in and she thinks because yeah, and she thinks
that because D is a winner, D can be a
good shield for a while.
Speaker 1: Okay, explain that to me, because she said that, and
I was like, I don't understand how that's a shield.
Speaker 2: So the idea is that you keep somebody that's a
higher target around for longer and then you cut them
off like later in the game. Because right now she
is she's a big target. Yeahah, so she's shielding these
other players. Yeah. Yeah, so that's what's happening there. And
then coach goes and tells Aubrey that he wants D also,
so everybody's kind of talking D. Yeah, and Aubrey also
realizes that keeping that idol was a mistake. She is
definitely gonna throw it away based not only on her
own mind, but Tiffany is really, you know, trying to
convince her to throw away that idol, and so yes,
she seems at this point like she's definitely gonna throw
away that idol.
Speaker 1: Yes, she also I think it's a pretty good choice
in this episode, but I was gonna say that because
no one's really gutting for her, But that I remember
the part of the conversation was everybody knows that she's
gonna everybody's pretty sure that she's gonna throw her idle away,
so there's no point in putting votes on her, So
why don't we go out for someone else? So never
mind ignore whatever ignored.
Speaker 2: So this is all of the coaches talk of trying
to manage this vote. So coach is trying to get
a seven to four vote split for D and Tiff.
So the reason they do this, Carlin, I'm sure you
probably figured it out, but they split the votes because
if they put all of their votes on D and
then D pulls her shot in the dark, then whoever
D wants out goes home, right or tiffany I guess
in this case.
Speaker 1: So wait, if if D played her shot in the dark,
or if anybody plays their shot in the dark and
then and it says safe and they do, they then
get to pick whoever is going home, or it's just
the next highest number of votes that goes home.
Speaker 2: Next highest number of votes. Yes, So in this case,
if everybody put D, Tiffany would have put somebody else coach, right,
and so coach would have gone home. And so they
need to make sure, like we put most on the people,
but we want some leftover on somebody else just in case.
So Tiffany was the somebody else. So if yes, if
if D would have pulled safe, Tiffany would have gone home.
Speaker 1: Okay, the other part that i'd understood, Okay, there are
fourteen people there, yep. They were talking about a seven
four split, So I understand seven and the four, but
then that leaves three people out and D and Tiffany
are only two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. I think Christian was also
included in those bottom players. And then if if you
play a shot in the dark, you lose a vote,
so you're down to thirteen.
Speaker 1: Votes, gotcha? Okay, So really he's talking about thirteen votes,
not fourteen votes, and that's where the seven and seven
four and then I.
Speaker 2: Believe so and the one most people are fucking hard
on for Christian, I don't know. Yeah, we're gonna get
We're about to get into that too. Yes, Coach keeps
saying we can't trust everyone playing in the middle, which
is because he says that two Devons, who is playing
in the middle, so very weird call here because.
Speaker 1: Something that Christian is not really playing in the middle.
He kind of has his set alliance. Devans is definitely
playing in the middle, Rizzo is playing in the middle.
Like it feels weird to me. The people that he's
calling out for playing in the middle are not actually
playing in the middle, and the people he thinks are
on his side are actually in the middle. It just
I don't know that's coach. Coach.
Speaker 2: I think never really has a great hold on what's
happening in the game.
Speaker 1: He thinks he knows what he's talking about, but he
doesn't actually yes.
Speaker 2: Uh And this Devn's thing is the perfect example of it,
because of course Devans went running up to Christian first
thing and tells him like straight up, like, hey, Christian,
seven to four vote, here's what's going to happen. Yeah,
And then, weirdly, though Christian does tell coach this, I thought,
if I'm Christian, I wouldn't want to say anything to coach. Frankly,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I know the coach is volatile and maybe you should
just like hold it in. Yeah, yeah, I found that
to be a weird move on Christian's part.
Speaker 2: Yeah I thought so too. All Right, so Chris says,
that is what it takes to control the vote. Seven
plus three leaves three votes. If they all vote the
other way, then they don't control the vote. Right, Yes,
that's yes, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I just I didn't realize that I had forgotten or
didn't realize that it was actually about the thirteen votes,
not the fourteen votes. So that makes more sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they went in. Most people on d suppose,
you know, because they don't want to vote for Tiffany
and then to have Tiffany stay in the game.
Speaker 1: Okay, so Coach is so adamant about how he wants
four people to vote for Tiffany, but yet he doesn't
want to be one of those four people. Is that
because the jury gets to see who has voted for who?
Speaker 2: No, I think it's just to avoid the awkwardness of
voting for somebody then having to deal with them later.
Because if Tiffany comes back to Coach votes.
Speaker 1: For Tiffany but then de goes home, then theoretically Tiffany
never knows who voted for her as long as people
keep their fucking mouth shut.
Speaker 2: Oh they don't keep their mouth shut though. Yeah, they're
gonna know who voted for who. Yeah, and ultimately it
doesn't matter because I think, like the alliance lions here
are so clear anyway, you know, it's all part of
the same alliance. So who cares. I think Tiffany has
the same Tiffany wants coach out no matter what. Yeah,
so the coach you did end up voting for Tiffany.
I don't think it matters, but yeah.
Speaker 1: But it just it felt it. He was so adamant
about how we need to have four people on on Tiffany.
We need to have four people on Tiffany. We need
to have four people on Tiffany. I'm not gonna do Tiffany,
but we need to have four people on Tiany. Why
not say I'm going to vote Tiffany because I'm really
trying to get this to happen. I need three other
people to guarantee that they will do it with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's a hypocrite, That's that's good. Just self
righteous hypocrite every season, that's what he is. So yeah,
so coaches on this TI right now of like who
told Christian about the seven four split. It's like Forces Devons.
Everyone knows it's Seven's, everyone except coach knows it's Devens.
But Devns is just mostly just pissed. He hates the
coach is bossing everybody around and kind of throwing his
weight around. I would too, Uh, this is an annoying
way to play, if you're asking me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very Johnny Bananas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's getting into like the coach is almost
like manic. He's like fucking full on Dragonslayer bizarre manic,
to the point that Rizzo pulls him aside and he's
just like, Coach, calm him the fuck down.
Speaker 1: This is this is where, Okay, I can see how
how Rizzo seems to kind of have a bit of
a game head on his shoulders. I can see how
he has done well if he's able to like take
one of these players. It's been doing this game for many, many,
many years. It's famous for doing this game. I'd be like, dude,
what the fuck? Yeah, hold like slow your fucking role,
and then that person to actually listened to them.
Speaker 2: So, yep, yeah, this is very I kind of like this,
and I like Rizzo too, of like how different he
is to coaches face and then like in his confessionals,
yeah yeah, because two coaches face, he says things like
slave dragons at tribal, don't slay dragons at the camp,
like talking very much coaches language. But in confessionals he's
just like this fucking guy is so stupid, like why
does he not want to play this game?
Speaker 1: But no, seriously, like it's with how activated he was
getting over nothing, like who gives a shit if Christian knows? Like, yeah,
it's just it was surprising to me because it's like Christian,
Christian is not playing with Tiffany or D. We haven't
seen any inkling that he's playing with Tiffany or D,
So why the fuck would it matter if he knows
about the seven four split?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he could be make it a seven five
split or something, you know, like, let's he could he
could be a number here.
Speaker 1: If anything, don't tell fucking Emily because Emily will tell everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, in this conversation, too, reminded me of this
previous season that we've seen Coach on and you know,
Tyson Carlin from the other USA, see the Child season.
Tyson had to have a similar talk with coach, just
saying like, don't put feathers in your hair. People laugh
at you. Don't do the tai chi shit. People are
making fun of that, like they don't respect you. Like
he had to like really like sit down and be
vicious with coach. And this seemed like a good uh
yeah reminiscent reminiscent of yeah for sure. Uh okay. But
because Coach is throwing such a fit and pissing everybody off,
Emily and Jonathan seem like they might take advantage of
this opportunity the scene Coach.
Speaker 1: In this scene of Emily and Jonathan sitting there talking
to each other watching coach, I mean he coaches talking
to the audience, yeah, but in reality, he is talking
to himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's.
Speaker 1: Sitting over there making a haiku to a camera where
it kind of looks like he it looks like he's
trying to play like he's talking to people that are
actually physically there, that are not the camera or the cameraman.
But he's definitely playing to the audience. But it's just
it's so fucking funny watching Emily and Jonathan just sit
there and be like, is he is he talking to himself,
what is happening there? For himself, it was Oh, I
was dying at that. I thought that was so fucking funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very selkyngratualatory. I mean, this is Coach like,
he's just so fucking irritating. And then yeah, we see
one brief shot of d pulling Tiff aside and just
saying like, hey, I'm worried and I'm going to blow
it up tonight.
Speaker 1: A tribal.
Speaker 2: So yes, I think everybody at this point is kind
of thinking, oh, cool, live tribal, here we go.
Speaker 1: Which, okay, I I think I had something else in
my head as to what a live tribal was. This
was boring, This.
Speaker 2: Was an imitation live tribal. This is not so good. Yeah.
I don't have any other notes about tribal other than yes,
the live tribal part.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess was there anything else that happened before tribal? Oh?
They were all it was going around camp. We saw
a bunch of different people talking about potentially throwing in
Coach instead. And honestly, the moment that all this talk
started happening, it was very reminiscent to me of like
Johnny Bananas and wes going back and forth like trying
to get the house. Oh, you know, we could do
it like we. We could have the numbers, we we
could do it like we. It might be we'd be
scraping it by but we could do it because we
have that one extra vote, or we have this one
way that we like. They hit such a chance here,
they hits such to get out a player that no
one wants to deal with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the coach is super annoying, but he is. I
will say he's good TV. If I'm at camp, I
would want him gone for sure. TV. I don't mind
watching him. I'm not gonna mind watching him for one
more week. He's never gonna win this game, so let's
let's keep watching him for another.
Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if he won this game.
Speaker 2: No, he won't. Everybody hates him, but so yes, So Carlyon,
this is your first viewing of a live tribal. But
this is a pathetic one because d I think understands
like she's gonna go home. There's nothing that she can
really do, so she doesn't, in a last active desperation,
just goes and starts telling everybody one by one like
vote coach I have the numbers, vote coach. I have
the numbers. And you see some other people whispering, you know,
and nodding and stuff, But I think generally speaking, it's
clear like she's not changing any minds. It's Carlin. Usually
a live tribal, people will jump up and like form
like huddles where they're like so close nobody can hear
them and stuff, and it's like, it's very very funny.
Speaker 1: This is my Honestly. When she said to tiffany, vote coach,
I have the numbers, I legitimately, for a minute I
thought that she was right, Like I thought that they
were voting for coach because of the way that the
editors kind of played everything right before that, I thought like, oh,
you know, this could actually be for coach, Like this
could be real. That would be great.
Speaker 2: Nope, that's not how it works. So everybody votes. Jeff
asks many wants to have a you know, play their
immunity or reward or whatever they should do it. Abby
plays her idle, basically throwing away. I think she knew
she's not in danger, but yeah, it takes a target
off her back for a minute. So she does that
and d plays are shot in the dark.
Speaker 1: Not safe, but she was so convinced, like I've got this,
It'll be fine, I'm gonna be good. Try to slay
her cocky bullshit.
Speaker 2: We've only seen this shot in the dark played correctly,
I want to say, one time, Carlin, and it was amazing.
It was it was like this really cool moment of
the show. But at the end, it doesn't save you
that long because you're safe that vote, and then they're
gonna get you next time. There's no more shots in
the dark.
Speaker 1: I mean tally like an idol would do the same thing.
It's only it's only good for that one episode. But
if they're gunning for you that episode, there's a good
chance that they're gunning for you the next episode.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so you know, it could have gotten
in one more week. I don't think she could have
turned the tides much because she would have lost tiff right,
if she would have come out safe, then she would
have lost Tiffany, which is one of her own allies.
So it, you know, ultimately doesn't matter much. So it's
deegoes home, like the vote goes exactly as Coach said
it would, So Coach won that battle. There's red hairing
all just a red hairing, all that coach talk shit.
Speaker 1: Which I'm kind of bummed about because I do you
think that they had a real chance to get him out?
And I don't know that they will have a real chance.
I don't know what kind of chance they will have
in the future to get him out.
Speaker 2: So they will, they'll get him out, or he might
be the goat. Maybe he's the goat this year. Everybody
wants to just take him to the end.
Speaker 1: That'd be really funny.
Speaker 2: He's been that, is this big bad player.
Speaker 1: He's been that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's been yeah, yeah, yeah, oh shit, okay, yeah,
he made it a final tribal once. Yeah, and he
was the goat.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he knows it, you know, even now,
even like because he's just that type of person, I
don't think he can like accept.
Speaker 1: It of him ego is just so big that he
thinks he made it to final tribal because he's just
that good at the game and just barely missed out
on actually winning. Yep, I could see that.
Speaker 2: Yep, that seems like it.
Speaker 1: Oh, Eduardo says, this is how it's so weird. This
came out earlier, but he's saying this is how Rerizzo
can win if he sits. If he sits at a
Final Trible with Coach and Jonathan to people who have
pissed people off, he'd get enough jer votes. Yeah, oh
for sure, I can see that. I don't think that
Jonathan and Coach are going to make Final Trible, though.
Speaker 2: We'll see. Maybe Rizo pulls him along.
Speaker 1: And then Chris says, uh, Dee was trying to save
Tiff as she knew she was pulling her shot in
the dark. I mean, I think she was also trying
to save her own ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, was in the jury and convinced everyone oh to
vote for coach not to win. Yeah, yeah, whichever was
in the jury, as he was in the jury of
the last season those two were on.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, gotcha South Pacific? Is that right? Oh? That's right,
because that was the that was That's why he and
Coach have such a like a bad they had bad
blood when they first met up, because Coach stabbed him
in the back and had them photoed off or something
with that, and then he did the same he did
back to coach kind of the same thing.
Speaker 2: Yep, same thing, gotcha? All right, Well that's the episode.
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There was so much time, so much time spent looking
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Speaker 2: All but one of you. Carlin. How we doing on
the fantasy league?
Speaker 1: Let's see so oh jeez.
Speaker 2: Carlin, sorry to interrupt your staying glassery.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. It's okay. I said you're welcome and that
was not the right term to use it. But anyway,
for free you can join our fantasy league. It is
lots of fun. I mean, you'd be very late to
the game and you probably won't win, but you never know.
Everybody can completely stuck the next like six episodes and
you could win. So right now, our top three players
have not actually moved this week. It is number one
is Wentworth, will not count. Number two is the rob Father,
and number three is Tally The votes proposed they are
all doing quite well. Our host team has moved up
one spot to number nine. I stayed in the same
spot that I was at last week, so I'm still
a number eight. I'm very surprised by that. I Oh,
and Tim has moved up five spots. Holy shit, dude,
well done. Tim has moved up five spots to number ten.
So right now eight, nine and ten are me the
host team. Tim, that's right, well done.
Speaker 2: I'm coming for you, Carlyn.
Speaker 1: And then Wolfy is why am I not there?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: Wolfe is staying in the same spot he is. Also,
he is in number twenty.
Speaker 2: Chris is right after me in the in the line
christ and.
Speaker 1: Chris is numb right after you. He moved up two spots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a good week, man, Yeah we have
this week. Yeah, D. Thankfully I got D. I was
trying to get the person that goes out because that's
my last name.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to do that, but I don't think
I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did get D. I think I misplayed Christian.
I played a Christian this week and he did not agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah you had you had Christian coach D which, even
with going out, D still scored forty three points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Coach and D got me a lot this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had Coach D and Jonathan who all got you?
Coach got you thirty four? Do you get you forty three?
Jonathan got you thirty nine, and Christian got you twenty two.
Yeah buck right, So yeah, you picked roball this week?
Who did I pick? I picked?
Speaker 2: Hey release the epstent files. Well Carlin figures that out.
Speaker 1: Yep, that would be nice.
Speaker 2: Don't forget I picked what I'm talking about Trump being
a pedophile. Oh yeah, don't forget.
Speaker 1: Yep, he sure is a rapist. So I picked Chrissy, Siree,
Ozzie and Stephanie. So Ozzie and Stephanie got me forty
one and forty four points respectively.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: But Chrissy and Serie got me fourteen and twelve. Yep.
Speaker 2: That's the game, man, that's the game. I love how
I love the fantasy.
Speaker 1: League is so much fun.
Speaker 2: It's so much fun. That's really.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand why why people enjoy doing
like fantasy football, because then it makes you care about
people that you wouldn't normally care about. And this is
the same kind of thing makes you care about people
that you wouldn't normally care about. So, yeah, it's it's fun.
If you you can still join us, it's still a
good time. Whoever ends up winning the Fantasy League, we'll
get to guest host with us. So maybe they'll guest host,
like the if there's a Reinnion episode or something like that,
or if a season we come back for the next season.
Speaker 2: If it happens season forty two. Where are you at, Bendy?
Speaker 1: Did you not join the Fantasy League? Come on, girl,
You've been listening to the show for way too long
to not join it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, Mandy, no excuse?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right?
Speaker 2: Is that it? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: I think we did it all all right, guys, Well
that's all I got. I don't have an outrous so
until next time. The tribe is smoking.
Speaker 1: Big Uncle sweet tea.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you're Carl in San Diego. Hang out
that room. They'll be right back.
Speaker 1: It's nice hearing the old music.