Speaker 1: You're putting we got some want or nothing growing out here.
Speaker 1: I can't go, but I know I did my vendor
Speaker 1: light on and I did that. But the left and
Speaker 1: they thing running across the yard not a good sight
Speaker 1: man or something. I look like the man, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was. The right across the yard.
Speaker 2: It seems to be a bigfoot leaning against a tree
Speaker 2: in a wooded area. I have seen plenty of people
Speaker 2: with big feet, but not bigfoot tree lines and rush.
Speaker 2: He sees about a seven and seven and a half
Speaker 2: foot tall fast watch looking back at him, and.
Speaker 3: That kind of looks like a wolf, but not like
Speaker 3: a neighborhood dog.
Speaker 2: Pick these stories for what they are and hopes that
Speaker 2: maybe if it's out there, don't show me. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: says he might have caught the mythical Cuba cabra creature
Speaker 2: terrorizing his chickens like a grunt and a knock. It's
Speaker 2: like a oh. I think there's kind of a cultural
Speaker 2: tendency for people to want to make big foot a
Speaker 2: quote unquote monster. Welcome to c b r O Bigfoot Radio.
Speaker 2: Hey there is Johnman. Welcome to the c b r
Speaker 2: O Bigfoot Radio. Uh yeah, we're back after taking about
Speaker 2: a week break, you got uh, let some of the
Speaker 2: new people get caught up on what we got going on. Well, ladies,
Speaker 2: we're back with another special guest. I want I want
Speaker 2: to walk on mister Wayne with us Sea Wayne. Uh,
Speaker 2: you guys to give me I'm afraid I'm gonna mix
Speaker 2: your last name up. You want to go ahead from
Speaker 2: that out there?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, it's t'otherorough Wayne, Tutherow.
Speaker 2: Tether Row. Okay, See, I'm glad I did because I
Speaker 2: think I would have said it a little different. So
Speaker 2: I'm actually glad I had you do that.
Speaker 3: I've put up with it. My whole lot of people
Speaker 3: have butchered it, so I'm used to You could have
Speaker 3: said whatever, and I have went with it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. But you know, it's like the same
Speaker 2: with my name. Uh Like some people they'll see the
Speaker 2: spelling of it. A lot of them know ben Lot, Yes,
Speaker 2: it's walk. But I've had it pronounced uh like like
Speaker 2: I've been in the doctor's office, you know, with my
Speaker 2: with my parents when i was younger. I've heard a
Speaker 2: name pronounced with letters that don't even exist in you know,
Speaker 2: so like like ben Nog like kind of like saying
Speaker 2: ed nogg, but ben Dog, I think where you know,
Speaker 2: educated people, how they get in this translation they're coming
Speaker 2: up with, you know, I don't know. But well, first
Speaker 2: of all, thank you for being here.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I know you are a very busy man between your
Speaker 2: podcast that you run a host and then you know
Speaker 2: your your children, so you're quite the juggling act. You know,
Speaker 2: you've got a lot going on here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you having me, Daniel. We uh, you
Speaker 3: and I've known each other for a little while. You've
Speaker 3: been on my show a couple of times, and yeah,
Speaker 3: glad to hang out with you for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely absolutely so. Uh Now, I know you hear
Speaker 2: a lot of stories. Uh, I mean, I mean there's
Speaker 2: so many, I'm not sure if you could pinpoint on
Speaker 2: anything right off the top of the head. But one
Speaker 2: thing I do want to ask you, was I like
Speaker 2: to ask other radio hosts and podcast hosts like, because
Speaker 2: you know, we all hear a lot of stories, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of what I want to get into the
Speaker 2: like talk about the various stories and the accounts that
Speaker 2: we get to hear, and that even even as podcast
Speaker 2: hosts in one way or another, we actually get to
Speaker 2: invest in some of these questioning and interviewing our guests. So,
Speaker 2: but I wanted to ask you, well, I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: the top of my head, could you recall, like, what's
Speaker 2: the most intense story or something that you would consider
Speaker 2: kind of on the scary side. Is there anything in
Speaker 2: particular that you could think of on the top of
Speaker 2: your head that that stands out like any It could
Speaker 2: be a previous show or yeah, how about you go
Speaker 2: ahead field free or throw that.
Speaker 3: Out there, Daniel, I've been asked this a couple of
Speaker 3: times and always go back to the same encounter didn't
Speaker 3: happen to me, And oddly enough, it was one of
Speaker 3: the first ones that I ever took, one of the
Speaker 3: first encounters ever took. You know, I am for those
Speaker 3: of you that your listeners out there that don't know me. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I do host a couple of podcasts, But before that,
Speaker 3: I founded a sassquat organization research organization back in twenty
Speaker 3: nineteen called Manimal Research. And what I did when I
Speaker 3: got that started was and a lot of people laugh
Speaker 3: at this. To get it going, I put an ad
Speaker 3: on Craigslist to kind of reach out in my area
Speaker 3: to gauge interest would you want to be a part
Speaker 3: of this organization, help me go out in the woods
Speaker 3: and look for this thing. And have you had yourself
Speaker 3: had any experiences. I'd like to hear about them. And
Speaker 3: one of the very first ones that ever reached out
Speaker 3: to me has been probably the most memorable, like you said,
Speaker 3: most intense and just had me on the edge of
Speaker 3: my seat. And I'll share it with you guys now.
Speaker 3: It was just absolutely crazy. I live in Tennessee, Southeast Tennessee.
Speaker 3: There is a state park here in Tennessee that's more
Speaker 3: in the middle of that, not in the middle of
Speaker 3: the state, but it's it's kind of like northwest of me.
Speaker 3: And the gentleman asked me not to give up the
Speaker 3: name of the state park. So I haven't done that
Speaker 3: and I won't do that here. But he text me.
Speaker 3: I leave my number on Craigslist and he text me
Speaker 3: and he starts to text with, if you want to
Speaker 3: see Bigfoot, this is this is where you go. And
Speaker 3: immediately that that had my attention, you know, just that
Speaker 3: was just it just seemed different from all the other
Speaker 3: stuff I was getting. And so I respond to him
Speaker 3: and we get this talk going, and he proceeds to
Speaker 3: tell me this story. He and his wife they like
Speaker 3: to go hiking, and they live not very far from
Speaker 3: this state park, right, they go just where they like
Speaker 3: to go and hike. They were in a different part
Speaker 3: of the park that they had never been before, and
Speaker 3: they found this little trail and it was at the
Speaker 3: end of a like a Coulter Sack, a dead end road.
Speaker 3: So they find it, they get out, they hike, and
Speaker 3: the whole time they're out there, they just have this
Speaker 3: feeling of being watched and feeling of dread. Now, just
Speaker 3: something's not right. You know, we've all had those feelings
Speaker 3: in the woods. I know you have, Daniel, I have too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: So they just they can't get over this this feeling,
Speaker 3: so they kind of cut their hikes short and head back.
Speaker 3: They get in the car and they start to leave.
Speaker 3: As they're pulling out, there's this pickup truck coming toward
Speaker 3: them and he flies by them, going faster than normal
Speaker 3: than you should have on that road. So it kind
Speaker 3: of gets their attention, so they kind of stop and
Speaker 3: they watched, you know, a little bit further out where
Speaker 3: he couldn't see them. This guy pulls around and the
Speaker 3: coult De Sack gets out of his truck, grabs this
Speaker 3: fifty pound bag of dry dog food out of the
Speaker 3: back of his truck, sets it down, pulls out his pocket,
Speaker 3: knives slits the top of it, dumps it upside down,
Speaker 3: dumps every bit of it out, and then throws the
Speaker 3: bag in his truck and starts to leave. Well, they
Speaker 3: didn't want to get caught watching them, so they left,
Speaker 3: you know, before he could catch up to him. But
Speaker 3: the whole week they're wondering, what the hell is this
Speaker 3: guy feeding? Is he feeding bears? Are or they're straight like, well,
Speaker 3: faar oh wild dogs that he's feeding? I mean, what
Speaker 3: is going on? They can't get it out of their mind.
Speaker 3: So they decide they're going to do this test the
Speaker 3: next weekend. They go and they the same brand of
Speaker 3: dog food that you know, they could you can tell
Speaker 3: what brand it is from a good ways away. They
Speaker 3: knew what kind of brand off food it was. They
Speaker 3: buy the same quantity, the same bag everything. They go
Speaker 3: back out there to the same spot and they do
Speaker 3: the same thing. They cut it open, flip it over,
Speaker 3: jump it out. They get in their car and drive
Speaker 3: up the road a little bit. They kind of hide
Speaker 3: their car. They get out with their back They have
Speaker 3: the backpacks on everything, and they walk into the woods
Speaker 3: and they just sit there and watch. And you know, Daniel,
Speaker 3: you know as well as I do. We all have
Speaker 3: a BS meter, you know, when someone's telling us one.
Speaker 3: We you can kind of tell when someone's making something up,
Speaker 3: when they're full of crap. You know this guy, Yeah,
Speaker 3: this guy, I never my BS meter never went off.
Speaker 3: He seemed genuine. It was down to earth, a good
Speaker 3: old boy, Tennessee boy. I liked him, and I don't
Speaker 3: think he was lying to me. He and his wife
Speaker 3: get out and they walk into the woods and they're watching.
Speaker 3: He said. They're there about an hour and they're getting ready.
Speaker 3: They're just gonna leave because nothing is happening. And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they hear this scream and it
Speaker 3: catches them off guard. It's like a hal scream kind
Speaker 3: of thing. They never heard it before. And not long
Speaker 3: after that scream, up on top of the ridge above
Speaker 3: the dog food, they see this thing, this huge thing
Speaker 3: come on top of the ridge. He said. It's all
Speaker 3: it's brown, it's all covered in hair, shaggy. It looks rough,
Speaker 3: he says. It throws its head back and starts to sniff,
Speaker 3: kind of like a dog with yeah, like a kind
Speaker 3: of thing, yeah, and then started it was on two
Speaker 3: legs the whole time, walking by peedle. It walks down
Speaker 3: to this pile of dog food, crouches down, throws its
Speaker 3: head back, and lets out another scream. And after it
Speaker 3: does that, it just starts shoveling this stuff into its mouth,
Speaker 3: just eating its handfuls. And when he let out the scream,
Speaker 3: you know, they're already freaking out and they don't know
Speaker 3: what to do. Right that same ridge, Three more of
Speaker 3: these things.
Speaker 2: I felt that coming right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a big one and two smaller ones. They show up,
Speaker 3: They start making their way down. By the time they
Speaker 3: got down there, if I remember correctly, the big one
Speaker 3: had already had his feel He kind of stood up,
Speaker 3: and then the other three got down there and started
Speaker 3: eating the same thing the same way, you know, just
Speaker 3: shoveling stuff into their mouth. And he said the whole
Speaker 3: bag was gone in no time. Something I don't remember
Speaker 3: exactly what happened, That his wife let out of gasp
Speaker 3: or something happened, but it drew the attention of the
Speaker 3: bigger one to them, and all of a sudden he
Speaker 3: sees them. He starts to give chase and they are
Speaker 3: freaking that you know what, out they start running back
Speaker 3: to the car. He tells me. The only reason they're
Speaker 3: here today, in his opinion, he pulled his three P
Speaker 3: fifty seven off of his hip and fired two shots
Speaker 3: into the ground as they were running, and he thinks
Speaker 3: that gave him enough time, that scared him or whatever
Speaker 3: enough for them to make it to their car, and
Speaker 3: they got in and they sped out. This guy was
Speaker 3: dead serious. You could just tell in his voice the
Speaker 3: way he was talking that I just felt like this
Speaker 3: really happened. I don't know, but probably that's the most intense,
Speaker 3: the scariest. I would say most of my personal encounters
Speaker 3: have well I've never had a personal encounter or anything
Speaker 3: like that, but the ones that I hear, I haven't
Speaker 3: heard one that aggressive. So that one sticks out to me.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Now, I I tend to believe that one myself,
Speaker 2: because I was like kind of like, even though I
Speaker 2: don't even know where this park is, I don't even
Speaker 2: know the layout, I just got this visual of the
Speaker 2: couple parking the car, hiking in and then the dog
Speaker 2: food and like this I don't know It's kind of
Speaker 2: hard to explain, but I had this visual seeing the
Speaker 2: scenario kind of like taking place. You know, it's very interesting.
Speaker 2: So uh And as I've told other people before, when
Speaker 2: I hear people sharing their stories to me, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and I get like very zoned into it,
Speaker 2: you know, like and and this doesn't happen all the time,
Speaker 2: but you know, I I believe just the story and
Speaker 2: I and I guess maybe it has a lot to
Speaker 2: do with how it's being told. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I tend to like get visuals, get these visions of
Speaker 2: like I get so drawn into it. It's just like
Speaker 2: reading a good book if you're really into the book
Speaker 2: and you're like you're following the book and you start
Speaker 2: visualizing the story as it's being going as you're reading
Speaker 2: into it. You know. Yeah, So, I mean I tend
Speaker 2: to get the same way with these stories when people
Speaker 2: are verbally sharing your information, you know. So you know,
Speaker 2: even though stories it's antal evidence, you know, it's just
Speaker 2: even though that we feel that they are legit. I
Speaker 2: wish there was a way we could prove more sometimes,
Speaker 2: you know, like there's so many, so many.
Speaker 3: Stories, Daniel I agree with you and and people there's
Speaker 3: I've been dealing with a lot of people on social
Speaker 3: media like that talk about anecdot to evidence is not evidence,
Speaker 3: and I disagree. Oh yeah, I disagree because in my opinion,
Speaker 3: and I've said this so many times, I think you'll
Speaker 3: agree with me doing you know what you and I do.
Speaker 3: The best way that we have right now to learn
Speaker 3: about these things in your boots on the ground, on
Speaker 3: boots on the ground as well, But in my opinion,
Speaker 3: the best way that we have to learn about these creatures,
Speaker 3: these beings, whatever they are right now, is by listening
Speaker 3: to people that have encountered them. Oh yeah, I understand
Speaker 3: that there's dishonest people out there. There are people that
Speaker 3: make crap up for attention. So it makes it hard,
Speaker 3: it does, But there are genuine people out there. There
Speaker 3: are people that are experiencing something that they just don't
Speaker 3: they just can't explain. Short of having one or two
Speaker 3: of these things in captivity for us to study and
Speaker 3: learn from, the best way is to talk to people
Speaker 3: that have witnessed them in their own environment. And that's
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. No, It's like like I get reports
Speaker 2: like I just got a recent report just a few
Speaker 2: days ago from a gentleman that had his sighting just
Speaker 2: about a week ago. But that wasn't here in Virginia.
Speaker 2: That actually took place in South Carolina. And the thing is,
Speaker 2: this guy shared all this information and I was really
Speaker 2: getting pumped. And the thing is, I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: you know, I said I wanted to go down there.
Speaker 2: I really do. And the thing is, I can't get
Speaker 2: you know, like the situation. I you know, my situation
Speaker 2: that I'm involved with right now. And and I usually
Speaker 2: do get down to South Carolina, but usually it's not
Speaker 2: till October, you know, because I usually speak at that
Speaker 2: event down there, they have the South Carolina South Carolina
Speaker 2: a big Foot festival, and uh, and that's the only
Speaker 2: time I could really get down there is during that time.
Speaker 2: And uh, It's like I told him, my man, I said,
Speaker 2: you don't know how bad I want to get down there.
Speaker 2: But I told him, I said, look, I asked him
Speaker 2: on the phone when we were talking, and I said,
Speaker 2: you trust me enough to share this information, said I
Speaker 2: know some really good people down in South Carolina. I said,
Speaker 2: would you be okay if I make contact with him?
Speaker 2: And share your story with him, and then give them
Speaker 2: your contact information for them to reach you, because I said,
Speaker 2: these are people that they're probably about two hours from you,
Speaker 2: give or take. But I know these people really take
Speaker 2: this seriously like I do. And you know, I said,
Speaker 2: the one person, the first person I'm going to contact, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like a kind of like a smaller but he's
Speaker 2: smaller than me. But he's also an older brother. He's
Speaker 2: much older than me too. So but uh, he's retired
Speaker 2: law enforcement, you know, a former marine. This guy he's
Speaker 2: very lade that down there. But you know what, you know,
Speaker 2: he takes all this seriously himself, you know. So, but
Speaker 2: so this guy is Steven who I spoke to. I'll
Speaker 2: mention his name, Steven, who gave me his story of
Speaker 2: what he saw on his property. Uh yeah, so Steven
Speaker 2: let me, you know, make contact. So and so, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get these reports and everything, and it's like I've
Speaker 2: gotten reports from other states. People want to reach out
Speaker 2: to me and share the stories like, oh, I've never
Speaker 2: shared this with anybody, but you know, I learned about
Speaker 2: you and this and that and you know, and and
Speaker 2: I reach out to people because like some of these
Speaker 2: stories come from like out of state, you know. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh man, I'm in Virginia. I love I'm
Speaker 2: glad that you reach out to me that you learned
Speaker 2: about I said, I love that. I said, would you
Speaker 2: like to have checked out? You know, like I'll know
Speaker 2: people in certain states, you know. If I don't, I'll
Speaker 2: reach out to people that might know people in know states, like, hey,
Speaker 2: do you know somebody that might want to check this out?
Speaker 2: Stuff like that, you know.
Speaker 3: You know, Daniel, it's not to interrupt you, Bud, but
Speaker 3: it's so funny that you're bringing this up. Do you
Speaker 3: remember last year you sent me Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I knew, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep yeah Philly with I
Speaker 2: don't like, I know what you're talking about. But it's
Speaker 2: like I deal with so much I don't remember the
Speaker 2: details of certain things.
Speaker 3: Nikki Cologne, I think, oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, okay, yeah, I think she was the
Speaker 2: one day.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you contacted me about it because it happened
Speaker 3: in Tennessee. And I'm here in Tennessee and I actually
Speaker 3: have one of my members, one of my better probably
Speaker 3: my best investigator right now, mister Kevin Jones, that lived
Speaker 3: in the area. He was out there the next day
Speaker 3: following Oh yeah, following up on that investigation. Unfortunately, nothing
Speaker 3: come of it. Uh, he just it didn't pan out.
Speaker 3: He couldn't find any evidence, and where this actually happened,
Speaker 3: it wasn't near any woods. He thinks, he thinks that
Speaker 3: if they saw something, and he believes they saw something,
Speaker 3: but it was more of a paranormal thing because they
Speaker 3: were nowhere near any kind of forested area. There were
Speaker 3: no footprints, there were no and the typical stuff you
Speaker 3: look for broken branches and like down shrubbery and stuff.
Speaker 3: There was none of that in the area. So he
Speaker 3: thinks it was more of a paranormal thing. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's funny that you brought that up because you
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm living proof that you're being You sent me.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you sent me an investigation last year.
Speaker 2: Well that's cool, because you know, sometimes I forget who
Speaker 2: I make contact with sometimes, you know, like who I
Speaker 2: reached out to, Like, hey, I know, but this is there,
Speaker 2: you know, blah blah blah. You know, I know I've
Speaker 2: done it for you know, you know friends of mine
Speaker 2: in Kentucky. You know, I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 2: they do on there, and I can only relate the
Speaker 2: information over, you know, as I can't be responsible if
Speaker 2: that group's going to go actually go out and do it,
Speaker 2: like you know, I share something, you know, but I
Speaker 2: do that because you know, I was like, it's the
Speaker 2: best I could do, you know, given the circumstances of like,
Speaker 2: you know, I can't. I can't just jump in my
Speaker 2: car and drive you know wherever. You know. I mean,
Speaker 2: if it's just like yeah, if it's within my county,
Speaker 2: like within the surrounding area, or want the surrounding counties,
Speaker 2: like yeah, I could plan on it and do it
Speaker 2: that way. You know, I really want to, you know,
Speaker 2: if I especially around my ear, if I am getting
Speaker 2: more reports, if activities starting to grew up again, oh
Speaker 2: you misbelieve it. I'm gonna call my my fellow team
Speaker 2: members the group, say, look, we got some reports learning
Speaker 2: up here. You guys want to come check these out
Speaker 2: with me, you know.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, but but then it speaks to you
Speaker 3: and your right in the community that the people that
Speaker 3: aren't even in your state are contacting you to help
Speaker 3: them with their problems. So I mean, kudos to you, man.
Speaker 3: That's that's really cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's exciting. It is, you know, and
Speaker 2: I always try to make time for people. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I'm not gonna be like one
Speaker 2: of these people. Sh got this guy down in Tennessee
Speaker 2: is calling me about his bigfoot in his backyard. What
Speaker 2: do I care? You know, I'm not like that. But no,
Speaker 2: like I want, I would want to get the information,
Speaker 2: and I would like to learn all because you know,
Speaker 2: learning that information, especially on the descriptions if there is
Speaker 2: a description for them to describe, and you know, these
Speaker 2: are all things that everybody we could all take notes
Speaker 2: of and gather little bits and pieces of information that
Speaker 2: might help us all in one way shape or another.
Speaker 2: You know, regardless, it doesn't matter who's going to go
Speaker 2: investigate that report. You know, hey, if they have to,
Speaker 2: if they have to capture pictures and photo evidence, that's
Speaker 2: real good kudos to them. But you know, like I
Speaker 2: want to learn about the information. You know, I was like,
Speaker 2: did somebody get attacked or you.
Speaker 3: Know, you know, Daniel war I hate, I absolutely hate
Speaker 3: all of the negativity in the foting within the community
Speaker 3: because we all have the same goal. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 3: really we want to prove that this thing is real
Speaker 3: and if they need protection get them that protection. I
Speaker 3: don't know that they do, because I've done a pretty
Speaker 3: damn good job all this time without help from anyone. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but we all have the same goal. We all need
Speaker 3: to be working together, and that's why I founded my organization,
Speaker 3: Manimal Research. We have members. I was looking today. I
Speaker 3: think we're up to almost twenty, like seventeen eighteen members
Speaker 3: right now in like six different states. Oh nice, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we're growing. We take in reports from people kind
Speaker 3: of like you do. We have people to go out
Speaker 3: and investigate them. But that's the reason I started my
Speaker 3: organization back in twenty nineteen, because of all the negativity
Speaker 3: and the name calling and the bashing in the community.
Speaker 3: You hear about, oh the BFRO. No matter what you
Speaker 3: think about the BFRO, they certainly have their reputations. Some
Speaker 3: love them, some hate them. They're the Dallas Cowboys of
Speaker 3: the bigfoot world.
Speaker 2: I never had it. I never heard it put that way.
Speaker 3: But that's pretty good, yeah, in my opinion. But no
Speaker 3: matter what you think about them, that website, that database
Speaker 3: that they have collected and shared is invaluable. One of
Speaker 3: the first things I do if I'm going into a
Speaker 3: new area at a state I'm going to Missouri here
Speaker 3: at the in October to speak of the conference. When
Speaker 3: when I go into a new area, I always pull
Speaker 3: up the BFRO and I pull up that county to
Speaker 3: see how many reports have been reported, you know, in
Speaker 3: that area. So that's an invaluable thing. But all these
Speaker 3: different organizations instead of focusing on just your organization, why
Speaker 3: aren't we working together?
Speaker 2: You know? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Excuse me, Dad, go
Speaker 2: see Grandpa. Now, he's trying to come out in the garage.
Speaker 2: I praive my grandson was creeping in here. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 2: all right, sorry about that. He thinks it's funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if we could find a way past,
Speaker 3: and let's be honest, it's ego. Yeah, we all want
Speaker 3: to be that one that does it. We all want
Speaker 3: to be that one that finds them and proves this
Speaker 3: thing is real. No, whether it be monetary game, whether
Speaker 3: it be fame that's gonna come from it, whatever it is,
Speaker 3: we all want the same thing. And I just felt
Speaker 3: if we would all work together, we would maybe we
Speaker 3: would have already been there.
Speaker 2: By now, right, absolutely absolutely. I mean, yeah, I've got
Speaker 2: friends that I mean, yeah, for some reason, I don't
Speaker 2: know that they want, they want the attention. I mean
Speaker 2: it's like I feel like there's certain people I know,
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, man, hey, I want to be on
Speaker 2: that podcast. Like really, I don't care if I am.
Speaker 2: I've been on so many podcasts over the years. I can't.
Speaker 2: I've lost talent. I can't keep up love. I mean,
Speaker 2: I love sharing and spreading the word, and it's spreading
Speaker 2: the wordness because I'm that's I'm big about that. But man,
Speaker 2: you do someone you po podcasts as far as being
Speaker 2: a guest on them, I mean, in a way, it's
Speaker 2: like it gets old, but like, hey, give me some time,
Speaker 2: let me have some space. Then yeah, I'll start jumping
Speaker 2: back on him again, you know. Like but then at
Speaker 2: the same time, like I've had somewhere, like I had
Speaker 2: three or four trying to schedule me in a month.
Speaker 2: I said, could we spread this out? I said, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna end up canceling on you at the last minute
Speaker 2: because I'll be too tired to want to do this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trade up and honest with him. I've
Speaker 2: been in that situation before, especially depending on my job,
Speaker 2: Like you work long days, like when I was, you
Speaker 2: know with Amazon, you work ten hour plus hour days.
Speaker 2: You're driving all day long in and out of that
Speaker 2: vehicle NonStop. Yeah, by the time you get done by,
Speaker 2: you know, get back to the warehouse and have to
Speaker 2: drive all the way back home like you're ready to
Speaker 2: collact and crawl into your house and you can't make
Speaker 2: it no more, you know. No.
Speaker 3: I mean that's what people don't understand is everything that
Speaker 3: we juggle. And I mean we just heard your grandson
Speaker 3: come in there. Yeah, that work, and you talk about
Speaker 3: doing the big foot stuff. Well, that don't include your
Speaker 3: family time right exactly, time for your family, man, You
Speaker 3: can't abandon your family, the little ones, especially you got
Speaker 3: a young grandson. I've got a young daughter that just
Speaker 3: takes up so much of my time and it's a
Speaker 3: balancing act, man, it really is.
Speaker 2: Alue Like my grandson right now, Normally he would be
Speaker 2: in bed if it was during the school week, but
Speaker 2: you know it's a weekend. We did we tend to
Speaker 2: let him stay up a little later. So yeah, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. You can keep them up to midnight.
Speaker 2: He'll still do the first one up. That's how he is.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, I'll tell you what now. You mentioned
Speaker 2: as far as your experiences, I mean, uh, what kind
Speaker 2: of experiences do you have? Have you had a sighting?
Speaker 3: I believe that I have. I believe I've had one siding.
Speaker 3: It was a not time siding and it was it
Speaker 3: was through my thermal I've not had that, you know,
Speaker 3: classic you know, class a siding daytime that everyone wants
Speaker 3: and man, I'm not. I believe I'll have that one
Speaker 3: day and I cannot wait till I do. But that
Speaker 3: has just has not happened for me yet. But as
Speaker 3: far as the one siding that I believe I've had,
Speaker 3: I was on a manimal investigation, you know, manimal being
Speaker 3: my group. Right there were four of us including myself,
Speaker 3: and we were on this mountain in North Georgia, in Lafayette, Georgia.
Speaker 3: And uh, I mentioned the BFRORO earlier and in their database,
Speaker 3: if you were to go to the BFRORO right now
Speaker 3: and pull up that county Walker, County, Georgia, you'll see
Speaker 3: five encounters or five reports from that county Daniel, every
Speaker 3: one of those are on this mountain.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So that's where we head and we're hanging out up there,
Speaker 3: and then there's so much I could tell you from
Speaker 3: from this this mountain, but talking about just this siding.
Speaker 3: We get up there. There's four of us. It was
Speaker 3: the second time that we had ever been up there.
Speaker 3: I was with my buddy and the vice president of
Speaker 3: my organization, uh Derrick Walls, and then two former members
Speaker 3: that they're no longer with us. We were up there
Speaker 3: and it was January. I remember that because it was
Speaker 3: not It was a few weeks after deer season ended
Speaker 3: in North Georgia.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: January down here is cold. We were cold. It was bitter,
Speaker 3: bitterly cold that night. It was in the low teens.
Speaker 3: I personally love winter camping. I would much rather camp
Speaker 3: in the winter than the summer. I can put more
Speaker 3: clothes on and stay warm. I can't get away with
Speaker 3: taking a whole lot more off. Somebody's gonna call it
Speaker 3: right if I take too much off. But we're out
Speaker 3: there and this older gentleman that's no longer with this.
Speaker 3: We hear something over to our left left of the camp.
Speaker 3: And this dude, he's been doing this for over thirty years.
Speaker 3: He not a whole lot got to him. He was
Speaker 3: not scared by a whole lot. He goes to over
Speaker 3: there to check it out, and he steps on this.
Speaker 3: It's not I don't really want to call a law.
Speaker 3: It was a down tree, so a long old dead tree.
Speaker 3: He steps on one side, well, the other side was
Speaker 3: behind some shrubs. He couldn't see the other side. Well,
Speaker 3: when he stepped on it, something stepped on the other
Speaker 3: end or stepped off of the tree, and it kind
Speaker 3: of gave a little bit kind of thing that told
Speaker 3: him something big was just on the other side of
Speaker 3: that brush. And it freaked him right the hell out,
Speaker 3: and he started running back and he's he's scared, and
Speaker 3: he's telling us about it, and we're looking over there.
Speaker 3: I get the thumb out. It's the first time all
Speaker 3: night I had gotten it out, and I start scanning
Speaker 3: it and I find this heat signature and it looks
Speaker 3: just like a man like someone standing there. You can
Speaker 3: see the torso torso was lit up. Was was was
Speaker 3: brighter than the rest of it. And then you see
Speaker 3: clearly see two arms and two legs, and we're watching
Speaker 3: this thing sway from left to right and just the
Speaker 3: classic swaying that you hear about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nothing, you off real quick. If you ever
Speaker 2: hear my story that my encounter from twenty fourteen, the
Speaker 2: first one we saw, the smallest one there was free
Speaker 2: of them, by the way, the first one it stayed
Speaker 2: swaying side to side NonStop through the whole situation. But
Speaker 2: I want to throw that in there, yeah, because I've
Speaker 2: seen that myself.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, and I remember you sharing that that
Speaker 3: when you came on my show. But so this thing
Speaker 3: is swaying, and not only is this one standing up
Speaker 3: and swaying, something smaller is out in front of it,
Speaker 3: and it looks like it just looks like a blob,
Speaker 3: like a circle that turns into a rectangle, and it
Speaker 3: just I don't know, it was like scurrying back and forth.
Speaker 3: It was never still. It was running around like almost
Speaker 3: like it's playing right. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3: But Daniel, the weird thing about this, as if that's
Speaker 3: not weird enough, the weird thing is, as you, I'm
Speaker 3: sure every time I go out on an outing to
Speaker 3: do an investigation, I make sure all of my equipment
Speaker 3: is charged. I know, yes, we all do it, because
Speaker 3: if you get out in the field and it's not charged,
Speaker 3: what good is it?
Speaker 2: Exactly? My Oh go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: My flear was charged one hundred percent when I got
Speaker 3: it out to film this thing. The battery was so
Speaker 3: low that I couldn't video. All I could do was
Speaker 3: take a steal. I was able to get several steals
Speaker 3: of this thing, but that's how low the battery was.
Speaker 3: And then it dies. So we're not far from my truck.
Speaker 3: I run over to the truck, plug it in, and
Speaker 3: I'm standing there for a few minutes. I don't know
Speaker 3: how much time went by. It seemed like it was forever.
Speaker 3: But I got enough of a charge for it to
Speaker 3: cut back on. I run back over it's still there,
Speaker 3: but the smaller thing isn't It's just the taller one.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: And the battery dies again. I run back to this
Speaker 3: truck to try to do it all over again, the
Speaker 3: same thing. Get it to cut back on, go back
Speaker 3: over there, and it's gone. So but I have no
Speaker 3: idea why my battery was dead. Yeah, you know, we've
Speaker 3: all heard so many times that these things somehow have
Speaker 3: the ability to drain batteries. I don't know how I
Speaker 3: feel about that.
Speaker 2: Right, but I mean, something like that sounds like it
Speaker 2: would be actually cool to believe. But I mean it's
Speaker 2: something like we want to believe, But come on, give
Speaker 2: us something more that would support that here, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean but again, I mean, how why was
Speaker 3: my battery dead?
Speaker 2: Right? Exactly?
Speaker 3: It was charged one hundred one hundred percent. Now a
Speaker 3: lot of people have said the cold, the severe cold.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, right, I mean, yeah, that would make sense too.
Speaker 2: But what you know then you have the athlete. Was
Speaker 2: my device actually in cold in the temperture that long
Speaker 2: for shut down like that? You know?
Speaker 3: Or yeah?
Speaker 2: But I mean.
Speaker 3: That's all the pictures that I've still got, those pictures,
Speaker 3: I share them all the time. I'll send it to
Speaker 3: you if you want it. But yeah, that was my
Speaker 3: one siding. We did a kind of a size comparison
Speaker 3: the next day, you know, when the sun come up,
Speaker 3: and again you know this thing being you know, twenty
Speaker 3: thirty yards from us. I never felt fear. I never
Speaker 3: felt like I was in danger. It wasn't aggressive. And anyway,
Speaker 3: I went to bed that night and I slept fine,
Speaker 3: oh yeah with this thing right, knowing this thing was
Speaker 3: out there. But we went out there the next morning
Speaker 3: and did a size comparison and it would have been
Speaker 3: around the eight foot mark.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, very good, Yeah, very same scenario with me.
Speaker 2: I mean, like oh, I don't think no one else
Speaker 2: was really scared either, except you know, like in my situation,
Speaker 2: we had Kimmy and Garren came down from Vermont the campus. Kimmy,
Speaker 2: she was the only one that was expressing any type
Speaker 2: of fear or nervousness during and after the situation. But
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if it's because like there was,
Speaker 2: there was other people. I was with other people. I mean,
Speaker 2: that might have had something. The reason, I don't know.
Speaker 2: But then again with it, you think, yeah, see, I
Speaker 2: was gonna ask you, like how many how many of
Speaker 2: you guys were there during that situation, but there was
Speaker 2: four of us four? But okay, okay, four grown man.
Speaker 3: You know, and that you're right, Daniel, that probably has
Speaker 3: something to do with it. If I'd have been by myself,
Speaker 3: I'd have probably left. Well.
Speaker 2: Well, the reason I asked and bring all that up
Speaker 2: is because in that same section of woods with my
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen counter, like I said, just a year later
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, during the hunt the season, like I said,
Speaker 2: keep in mind, the same section of woods, just around
Speaker 2: the bend just a little bit, there was another camp
Speaker 2: area I was camping at, and you know, I didn't
Speaker 2: see nothing, but I will tell you whatever was twenty
Speaker 2: feet well, first of all, the tree line was like
Speaker 2: twenty feet away, but whatever was inside that tree line
Speaker 2: that was bipedal and very large and heavy walking away
Speaker 2: from me, even though I didn't see it, that had
Speaker 2: the fear of me. You know, my heart was up
Speaker 2: in my front and a way like because it was
Speaker 2: so close you could hear it and almost feel it
Speaker 2: inside you. But you know, I was by myself. That
Speaker 2: was a different scenario. That was one of the few
Speaker 2: times I had felt fear. But as I walked backwards
Speaker 2: and got back into my camp, it's like I instantly
Speaker 2: the whole situation, the whole thing just kind of like
Speaker 2: like it was really like I got comfortable again, you know,
Speaker 2: like yeah, because I came to the realization, well, whatever
Speaker 2: that was was going away from me. If it meant
Speaker 2: any harm, it had every opportunity to come sack me
Speaker 2: like a football player.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, it harm me. You wouldn't be here
Speaker 3: talking to me right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I mean I was by myself. There was
Speaker 2: nobody in the area, you know, knowingly, there's other people
Speaker 2: in the other permitive camp spots. That new camp out
Speaker 2: there during the hot season, but where I was at
Speaker 2: there was nobody else around, so I know it wasn't
Speaker 2: a person because just prior to that, well, I'm sorry short,
Speaker 2: just prior to both situations from fourteen and fifteen, it
Speaker 2: was dear President right there before those scenarios took place.
Speaker 2: But so that's something also I owe this question, you know,
Speaker 2: like did I interrupt something or are we interrupting a
Speaker 2: possible hunt? You know, I don't know, can't prove that,
Speaker 2: but that's something I look back on a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean There's certainly certainly been times that
Speaker 3: I've been in the woods and I've been scared with
Speaker 3: other people. Yeah, but this time, I don't. I can't
Speaker 3: explain it, man, I just I wasn't. Uh, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what it is. I
Speaker 3: don't want to speculate too much, but maybe at the
Speaker 3: fact that I was with three other men. But I've been,
Speaker 3: like I said, I've been with man in the woods
Speaker 3: before too and been freaked out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. Like sometimes the other thing that
Speaker 2: may give you fear too is because you know, well,
Speaker 2: the one thing, like I've been in situations where I've
Speaker 2: been in totally new areas that were like out in
Speaker 2: the middle of nowhere, you know, even though there's within
Speaker 2: your state. You just these are locations I've never been
Speaker 2: to before, and you're surrounded by heavily dense forests and woods,
Speaker 2: and like, if something was to happen, you could screen
Speaker 2: your lungs out. Nobody's gonna hear you out here in
Speaker 2: these areas, you know. And uh, but yeah, those are
Speaker 2: other ears. I've had some fear nervousness go on too,
Speaker 2: because I've had things that happen around my campsite that
Speaker 2: I can't explain, Like what the heck was that? You know,
Speaker 2: you didn't want to hang around to find out what
Speaker 2: was cracking that big limb right behind your can you know,
Speaker 2: and there's no wind at all, situations like that, you know.
Speaker 3: But no, Daniel, let me ask you. We're talking about
Speaker 3: camping and having other people with us. Do you do
Speaker 3: a whole lot of solo camping?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always done solo camping.
Speaker 3: I can't, you know, I can't. I've never done it,
Speaker 3: and uh, I've done it once in a campground, but
Speaker 3: as far primitive like out there just you you know,
Speaker 3: crapping like the bears in the woods. You know, do
Speaker 3: you do you do that? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually do what they call stealth camping. I
Speaker 2: started putting some of it on camera, but I haven't
Speaker 2: done any you know, it's been a little while since
Speaker 2: I've been back down from Pennsylvania. But but but there's shoe.
Speaker 2: Most of my camping has always been solo, you know.
Speaker 2: But then again, I started doing the group thing because one,
Speaker 2: you know, some of the people that come out and
Speaker 2: join our group camping, they're not so uh I want
Speaker 2: to say they're not I don't want to say they're
Speaker 2: not so educated, but they're There's a lot of information
Speaker 2: and a lot of stuff that they don't get to
Speaker 2: see on a daily so we like to invite people
Speaker 2: to come out there.
Speaker 3: So they're yeah, right.
Speaker 2: So I'm like people that are on my team, like
Speaker 2: my friend Melissa and David, which their their husband and wife.
Speaker 2: David's retired from the military. Also, he's got two you know,
Speaker 2: he's retired from two careers, a military and the local
Speaker 2: police department. Him and his wife met back when they
Speaker 2: were in the army. She was a military cop, you know,
Speaker 2: and you know, and having their expertise and they're you know,
Speaker 2: their training along with what we do in the field.
Speaker 2: It's awesome because she she does a lot of studies
Speaker 2: on plants and edible plants and everything you can do.
Speaker 2: Think of when it comes to plants, what you could
Speaker 2: use for medicine, What will this do. She's amazing. She'll
Speaker 2: point out every little thing like what really, wow, you know,
Speaker 2: there's things I've learned and I can't put it touch
Speaker 2: a finger and put a finger on it. She's amazing. Uh.
Speaker 2: But you know, just to them to have out there,
Speaker 2: they're very educational, they're very informative. That's what we'd like
Speaker 2: to do. You know. We're like, hey, the more we
Speaker 2: can have people out there and they can learn from that,
Speaker 2: that's great, you know. You know, uh, but you know,
Speaker 2: it's like even when we go hike and exploring, we
Speaker 2: come across a lot of interests and structures informations, like
Speaker 2: you know, we like to take your time to look
Speaker 2: them over. And you know, even though we can't rule
Speaker 2: out certain things. I mean, there's you know, some of
Speaker 2: these structures informations that we want to we like to
Speaker 2: believe that they put made them. But regardless if we
Speaker 2: can prove we can't prove that he did it, and
Speaker 2: we can't prove that he did do it. So you know,
Speaker 2: we like to take pictures and document these things, like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's put it to the public. This is what we're finding.
Speaker 2: We're not saying what it is and what did it
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, but hey, we're gonna share with you
Speaker 2: guys what we find. You know, but you can believe
Speaker 2: whatever you wanted to be.
Speaker 3: But you know, this is what we you know, Uh,
Speaker 3: the one thing, what is it about what is it
Speaker 3: about law enforcement that gets involved in this community? You
Speaker 3: just mentioned those two people, the husband and wife. They
Speaker 3: were a former law enforcement in military. Right, I've got
Speaker 3: I think three current or current current or former law
Speaker 3: enforcement and then like two or three other that were
Speaker 3: former military that are the subject. And you know my partner,
Speaker 3: you know, I host Paranormal Odyssey, which was started by
Speaker 3: Brian king Sharp who is the host of Sasquatch Odissey
Speaker 3: the Secutor, third biggest bigfoot podcast in the world. He's
Speaker 3: actual law enforcement and Brian and I co host that
Speaker 3: bigfoot podcast.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, law enforcement. I mean, what is it about
Speaker 3: cops that draw them to this subject. Do you have
Speaker 3: an opinion on that?
Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I can think of, which I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to talk to David next time I have him,
Speaker 2: because he just started joining podcasts for the first time.
Speaker 2: I've had him on a couple of my little group
Speaker 2: round table discussions, and I'll have to write that question
Speaker 2: down just for him, you know, and that should be
Speaker 2: an interesting response. But my honest opinion, I just quickly
Speaker 2: thinking on the top of my head, Well, you've got
Speaker 2: to consider their training. I mean, they were in the army,
Speaker 2: you know, think about training, the education that they have gotten,
Speaker 2: you know, in any kind of experience they have gotten
Speaker 2: along the way through very routine situations, investigative. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe that has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 2: It's just they I think they want to put their
Speaker 2: you know, they know, they're alert, they're you know, it's
Speaker 2: that they're trained to be alert, they're trained to be observant,
Speaker 2: and I guess they have this I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of hard. It's hard to really throw it out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're really explaining.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I think about you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I again I need to try to
Speaker 2: remember to ask David that ask him his wife, Melissa.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is. Whatever it is, they make excellent, excellent researchers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, because you know David
Speaker 2: and Melissa, they don't have no encounters, they don't have
Speaker 2: they've never seen anything. But they they had a very
Speaker 2: clear but yet open mind on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: You know. Now, one of our previous group campouts in
Speaker 2: my main research area. Now you know, I've been whooped
Speaker 2: that right behind my tent before too, in that same
Speaker 2: area several several years ago, back in twenty thirteen, something
Speaker 2: whooped at us, meeting the guy I was camping with.
Speaker 2: But this happened on the other side of the river
Speaker 2: in the other campers when Melissa David. This is probably
Speaker 2: the second or third time they campled us. And Melissa
Speaker 2: was up to o'clock maybe for two or three o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning. You know, she had to get up
Speaker 2: to go use the bathroom. But when she first got up,
Speaker 2: she's hearing something outside of her camp running around like
Speaker 2: you know, it could have been dear, you know, because
Speaker 2: you know, deer come around there and walk pass through
Speaker 2: camps and everything. You know, I've had deer pass through
Speaker 2: the camp while we're all awake, you know. But so
Speaker 2: she's talking about here in these footprints. But you know,
Speaker 2: then she heard what sounded like heavier footfall, like something
Speaker 2: actually literally running like two feet Yeah, and then you
Speaker 2: know she didn't She was like she was trying to
Speaker 2: get make sense of all this and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, something whatever the way she described it, I
Speaker 2: actually have this now. She actually wrote this down to
Speaker 2: even though she talked about it before. Whatever. She said,
Speaker 2: it was just feet away when she heard multiple something
Speaker 2: was whooping at her like they knew she was there,
Speaker 2: like they were there now. David, her husband, David, never
Speaker 2: woke up. David. She said. She swore David the like
Speaker 2: was dead to the world. He never woke up for nothing.
Speaker 2: And I said wow. And then the dog they had,
Speaker 2: they had Luna, the German shepherd with them. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like she never barked in nothing. But Melissa said
Speaker 2: she was alerted to what was there. She just didn't bark,
Speaker 2: which I was like, I don't know, that's weird because
Speaker 2: most dogs, you would think they would react more to that.
Speaker 2: You know, she was a puff still, you know, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't have to have to do anything with it.
Speaker 2: But you know, uh, I mean she's just from two
Speaker 2: years old, just you know, a week ago, so you know,
Speaker 2: but like that this was that incident. I believe it
Speaker 2: was like a little over a year ago, so a
Speaker 2: couple might have been a couple of years ago. I
Speaker 2: can't remember for sure. But yeah, Melissa's claimed to and
Speaker 2: talked about getting wooped at right there. I mean in
Speaker 2: my main research area, there is all kinds of weird
Speaker 2: crap that happens out there. But we're actually in another
Speaker 2: area that's closer to the West Virginia line right now,
Speaker 2: where I've always heard a lot of down load reports
Speaker 2: from hunters and hikers and like when I say hunters,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like bear hunters that witnessed and seeing
Speaker 2: things out here. And uh, there's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: reports and information that I've learned about this location you'll
Speaker 2: actually never hear about on the BFRO because a lot
Speaker 2: of people out in this particular area, they don't speak
Speaker 2: out to the public like that. They don't, they don't,
Speaker 2: they don't know much about that. All this stuff, you know,
Speaker 2: is your typical country mountain folk, you know. So but yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, absolutely, But yeah, so we're focusing in this area.
Speaker 2: You know, we're uh, we had some interesting things here
Speaker 2: this back in October when we last camped out. So
Speaker 2: I'm anxious and curious to see how things are going
Speaker 2: to play out come May when we're out there again
Speaker 2: in May. So so, yeah, we got a group camp
Speaker 2: out in May eighteenth through the twenty fourth.
Speaker 3: So nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3: But very cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you get out camping much. I guess it
Speaker 2: depends on your scale not things work out for you, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually manimal We have a group camp out
Speaker 3: scheduled at the LBL for March. Okay, fourteenth and fifteenth
Speaker 3: will be out there December. We I think twelve of
Speaker 3: us got together here in my neck of the woods.
Speaker 3: It was actually one of our research areas is a
Speaker 3: big Frog Mountain. It's in it's in Tennessee. I always
Speaker 3: make the joke that from this area, you can stand
Speaker 3: in Tennessee throw a rock into Georgia and pe into
Speaker 3: North Carolina.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: You're right there in the corner of those three states. Wow,
Speaker 3: it's the Cherokee National Forest basically.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, I've been by that in general area before. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I probably drive through there headed down the s North
Speaker 2: Carolina taking the way I whatever highway I take to
Speaker 2: get down there.
Speaker 3: I know that it's right on the Akoy River and
Speaker 3: for some of your listeners there, if you're familiar with
Speaker 3: that area, the Akoy River is where you remember in
Speaker 3: it was ninety six when the Olympics were in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Well you know, there's not a lot of streams going
Speaker 3: through Atlanta, so that's where they held like the kayaking
Speaker 3: events and stuff. Oh the Olympics. So it's a really beautiful,
Speaker 3: cool little stretch of whitewater rapids They go through there
Speaker 3: and you hit this one section and it's really cool.
Speaker 3: There's this row of flags and every country that participated
Speaker 3: in the Olympics in ninety six has a flag represented
Speaker 3: running through there. So it's a beautiful area, really cool.
Speaker 3: If you know any of your listeners are and can
Speaker 3: go check it out. It's a cool place. Again, that's
Speaker 3: the Akoi River. But Big Frog Mountain is where we
Speaker 3: did that investigation. We do a lot of stuff up there.
Speaker 3: We camped there a lot. Like I said, we got
Speaker 3: the one coming up in LBL in March.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: My big event every year is to squatch Out. This
Speaker 3: year will be our fifth one. It should be our sixth.
Speaker 3: But personal stuff. A couple of years ago I had
Speaker 3: to take the year off. I had a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff going on personally. But yeah, we just last year,
Speaker 3: I think we had around fifty people show up from
Speaker 3: twelve different states. Farthest one out was Colorado. Guy flew
Speaker 3: In had a guy drove up from south of Miami.
Speaker 3: Him and his son came up. Yeah, twelve different states.
Speaker 3: People came to camp out with us for three days
Speaker 3: and just hang out. You know, we don't do a
Speaker 3: whole lot of organized expeditions during it. It's not that
Speaker 3: kind of events. All right, You're welcome to go out
Speaker 3: on your own and look not by yourself. We do
Speaker 3: not allow that you go out and time multiple people,
Speaker 3: but that's up to you. If you want to go
Speaker 3: out and walk around check out the area, that's fine.
Speaker 3: But that's not what this event is about. It's about
Speaker 3: getting like minded people in the community together to meet,
Speaker 3: network and just swap stories and enjoy nature. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that's called the squatch Out, the East Tennessee squatch Out,
Speaker 3: and that's always held in September, so the fifth one
Speaker 3: will be this year. But yeah, in between the man,
Speaker 3: I'm camping. Every chance I get. Being the father of
Speaker 3: a toddler, I don't get a whole lot of time
Speaker 3: as much as but yeah, every chance I get, I'm
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to. I mean, I would love
Speaker 2: to get that little guy out there now, but you know,
Speaker 2: he would have to be on the more on the
Speaker 2: behave a little bit better. Like, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: need him running out and sneak it out, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, you want to be able to be able
Speaker 2: to trust him that he's going to know enough to
Speaker 2: understand that he's got to stay with you, you know.
Speaker 3: But I was just talking about the squatch Out. I
Speaker 3: remember I invited you last year to speak at the
Speaker 3: Squatch Out, but it was a late notice and and
Speaker 3: you weren't able to make it. So the invitations there
Speaker 3: if you if you want to come, I know you're
Speaker 3: in Virginia and this is in Tennessee. That would be
Speaker 3: a good long haul for you. But we have speakers
Speaker 3: at the event. Last year we had Lori Wade oh okay,
Speaker 3: and Jessica Jones, the Crypto Hunters.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, speaking of Jessica Jones. I'm waiting for her
Speaker 2: to get back to be because she's supposed to. We
Speaker 2: were supposed to reschedule a uh our group thing yesterday.
Speaker 2: She never never got back to me.
Speaker 3: She is an awesome, awesome lady. She is all energy,
Speaker 3: ball of energy. She does not disappoint. She got up
Speaker 3: there and gave just an awesome talk and had everybody
Speaker 3: just on the edge of their seat. Anytime you get
Speaker 3: to hang out or do anything with Jessica Jones to
Speaker 3: do it. Same with Lori Wade. Lori Wade does all
Speaker 3: the BFRO investigations here in Tennessee and Georgia. She's a
Speaker 3: good friend of mine. She's an awesome lady as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a couple of great ladies. But yeah, man, the invitation
Speaker 3: is up to you if you ever, if you can
Speaker 3: make it down here in September, I'd love to have
Speaker 3: you come.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you said that's a September is a group
Speaker 2: camp out? Yeah, see, I'm trying to think. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I'm scheduled September September. I don't think I'm
Speaker 2: scheduled for anything in September.
Speaker 3: The weekend after is it labor or Memorial whichever whichever
Speaker 3: one of those is in September, it's the weekend after.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, I'm thinking September. I'm really thinking September is
Speaker 2: clear right now. I mean I'm not ju artist. I'm
Speaker 2: with I have things right now, but I'm trying to
Speaker 2: figure off the top of my heay, like like September
Speaker 2: should be clear. I don't, and I don't have nothing
Speaker 2: going on till October, like because like, uh, October for
Speaker 2: the South Carolina Big Book Festival, I'm scheduled to speak
Speaker 2: there again.
Speaker 3: So yeah, when when October is that? Daniel?
Speaker 2: That is, if I'm not mistaken, October eleventh and twelve
Speaker 2: in Westminster, South Carolina. So what's interesting about that? Kind
Speaker 2: of like along the line where you were talking about
Speaker 2: how close Georgia and the other states were from your
Speaker 2: you know, the one area when I go down there
Speaker 2: to South Carolina. Now, I didn't realize Georgia, or depends
Speaker 2: on where the part of Georgia, how close Georgia actually
Speaker 2: is from Westminster. Because we get a lot of people
Speaker 2: that come to that event and they like to share
Speaker 2: their stories and their reports and and I'm like I'm
Speaker 2: excited because like, hey, I'm down here already, like, hey,
Speaker 2: after this, after we're done at the festival, Hey, let's
Speaker 2: go meet up. I want to see this spot, you know.
Speaker 2: But that's what a group of us we want. We
Speaker 2: have enough time to we want to dedication some time to,
Speaker 2: like if there's some fresh reports or if you're in
Speaker 2: a area where there's vin siding, we want to go there.
Speaker 2: We want to hang out there, you know. But so
Speaker 2: I've learned of these spots where and I get to
Speaker 2: talk to these people, they're like, oh, yeah, they have
Speaker 2: Like I live in Georgia, and it's I'm only like
Speaker 2: ten minutes from here or fifteen minutes from what I think. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize either, but that's what these people say,
Speaker 2: that like ten you know, they're ten minutes away, you
Speaker 2: know some close Georgia is from where the festival is,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah. So I mean when they go down there,
Speaker 2: they usually put us up in this cabin. Well I
Speaker 2: call it a cabin. It's a really nice looking house.
Speaker 2: It's it looks like a cabin on the inside, but
Speaker 2: it's you know, a really nice, cool looking, fancy cabin
Speaker 2: whatever whatever you want to call it. So, yeah, we
Speaker 2: have but yeah, something. Yeah, and it's got three different levels.
Speaker 2: I mean the main bedrooms downstairs and you've got these
Speaker 2: other side rooms upstairs and stuff. But everything's out of
Speaker 2: made out of what a log home would be made of,
Speaker 2: you know. So it's got a nice spout, spiral spiral staircase.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've always posted pictures of it and stuff.
Speaker 2: But and but yeah, that area there, you though, there's
Speaker 2: a couple of other houses here and there around it
Speaker 2: is also surrounded by a lot of woods, so you know,
Speaker 2: we do try to take advantage of sitting outside and listening.
Speaker 2: You know, we'll have a barnfire in the backyard, you know, firefit,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean whether they put us up in
Speaker 2: lodge and yeah. It's oh a good fifteen to twenty
Speaker 2: minutes from where the festival takes place. So sometimes we
Speaker 2: get other people to follow us back out there, you know,
Speaker 2: like or you know, a lot of times a lot
Speaker 2: of us will get together. Either we'll meet up at
Speaker 2: one of the restaurants right there off of Main Street
Speaker 2: where the festival is, because there's a couple of restaurants
Speaker 2: that we'd like to sit in there and relax and
Speaker 2: are sometimes some of the times we're down there, we'll plan,
Speaker 2: like a group of us, we'll play like, hey, we're
Speaker 2: gonna make dinner at the cabin, you know, like so
Speaker 2: and so buy some stuff they want to make dinner
Speaker 2: for everybody. So you know, we kind of do that too,
Speaker 2: you know, like hey we invite others. Hey we've got
Speaker 2: we're gonna have all this extra food, come on over,
Speaker 2: you know. So but yeah, so we always end up
Speaker 2: throwing a little big of a shicking gig dinner for
Speaker 2: everybody or or whoever wants to join us and meet
Speaker 2: us at the restaurant that we choose. A group of
Speaker 2: us want to deal, you know, meet up with. So
Speaker 2: it's always a good time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. We
Speaker 2: do the same thing up here in Virginia. Like, you know,
Speaker 2: we just started doing the two day event thing here.
Speaker 2: You know, my event is Friday and Saturday. Fridays tend
Speaker 2: to be the slower day. Saturday is the main day
Speaker 2: where everybody's awful work and ready to go out and
Speaker 2: have fun with the family. So yeah, bring it on,
Speaker 2: you know. But even after that long day, like I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll already talk in advance to a few people, let
Speaker 2: them know, hey, tonight after we're done. After everything's cleaned up,
Speaker 2: we're going to go to such and such place and
Speaker 2: meet up with everybody to eat, you know, so you
Speaker 2: know you're welcome to come. We always throw the invite
Speaker 2: out there. I always make sure all the speakers know
Speaker 2: about it. Look, I said, we're not we're inviting you.
Speaker 2: We all want to do something together. If it's in
Speaker 2: your budget, come out. I can't pay for you, but
Speaker 2: you know, you know, so it's like the invites there.
Speaker 2: Just come on out and enjoy yourself with everybody. And
Speaker 2: you know, because there's people that want to follow, you know,
Speaker 2: even some of the people that attend this event, like
Speaker 2: they you know, we get people like, hey, are you
Speaker 2: guys doing anything after the event. I'm like, maybe why,
Speaker 2: Like who you want to invite with? Like, we don't
Speaker 2: want to whole bud. We don't want tons of people
Speaker 2: to come out. But you know, usually fifteen twenty of
Speaker 2: us top, you know, we usually have a fairly detent amount.
Speaker 2: Who knows. This year we might come back and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, come back over to my place and do
Speaker 2: a fire in the backyard. We did that with a
Speaker 2: few of us last year. You know, so cool, Yeah,
Speaker 2: keep it simple because you know, my father, he loves
Speaker 2: he loves having company. So we'll make a fire in
Speaker 2: the backyard, you know, bring it if you if you drink,
Speaker 2: bring your own beer, you know, so stuff like that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. You know. Yeah, so but yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what we do. I mean, yeah, sorry, if that went off,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I forget where I was
Speaker 2: going with all that thing. I kind of went off
Speaker 2: board with. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what happens when you just start talking.
Speaker 3: That's that's the kind of interview I do on my show.
Speaker 3: It's it's a conversation, you know, right, That's what this
Speaker 3: has been. So I think those are the best ones.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, because you think of one thing and
Speaker 2: at leads to another and the like, and the audience
Speaker 2: is like, what are these idiots talking about today? So,
Speaker 2: I don't know, we like to have fun, and that's
Speaker 2: what I tell people. You got to have fun, you know.
Speaker 2: So it is what it is. But so I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what. I'm going to come to a close here
Speaker 2: because I know you've got a lot going on this
Speaker 2: evening and you need to get ready for her as well. Uh,
Speaker 2: And I definitely want to have you on here. As
Speaker 2: like I said, we do round table talks. We get
Speaker 2: into all kinds of stuff. It's almost basically what we
Speaker 2: did tonight. But you know the bunch of people. So
Speaker 2: so yeah, so I definitely make sure you get scheduled
Speaker 2: schedule to getting back on here again. Uh in his
Speaker 2: inner future. A couple of the other people that like
Speaker 2: to sit in on my discussions, they will, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think you might know. Uh, he's he's one of
Speaker 2: my speakers this year. Uh, mister John Stasco. Uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he is a talker, So be prepared. I'm sure you
Speaker 2: already noticed.
Speaker 3: A talker. I have had him on a couple of times,
Speaker 3: but he's been around for a while those stories to tell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I met him when I was up staying up
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania and uh, actually I've organized a small little
Speaker 2: groups a little seminars at the local bars and breweries
Speaker 2: up there and had him come out and do a
Speaker 2: short little presentation and you know, so that's how I
Speaker 2: got to know him there. And then when I hosted
Speaker 2: my event up in Pennsylvania, my uh missed the Legend
Speaker 2: festival I had going up there. He was one of
Speaker 2: my speakers up there. So and uh so, yeah, I
Speaker 2: got I got pretty familiar with him and everything, and like,
Speaker 2: I mean, his stories are pretty cool. I got to say,
Speaker 2: you know, so, uh like he's excited that he's coming
Speaker 2: down to my June event this year. Him and his
Speaker 2: wife are coming down. So and uh, we'll see how
Speaker 2: that goes. I told him. I I told, well, my
Speaker 2: MC that knows him very well, you better watch a
Speaker 2: babysit him every minute and make sure he cuts off
Speaker 2: when he needs to, because we've got other people ahead
Speaker 2: of him, you know. And I told you, I told
Speaker 2: you this. I said, you got to really watch your time, man,
Speaker 2: because you know, I was like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: like I had Todd, you know Todd niche right well
Speaker 2: yesterday yeah, okay, yeah, because I got his email for
Speaker 2: his invite for the Final Beach Foot and I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I wish I could. I can't afford that stuff. But
Speaker 2: uh so, long story short, Uh Todd was one of
Speaker 2: my speakers a couple of years ago, and uh I
Speaker 2: loved having tied out here and somebody I was in
Speaker 2: a different area. I wasn't in the room where he
Speaker 2: was doing his presentation. I was out in the main hall.
Speaker 2: Somebody came and got me. You know, look und you know,
Speaker 2: trait caught up with me. Yeah. They were getting frustrated
Speaker 2: because there was other speakers that were waiting to speak.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know this, but he had gone almost
Speaker 2: forty five minutes over his hour, you know. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: give every Yeah, he didn't realize it. Everybody's supposed to
Speaker 2: get an hour time. We give him an hour tops,
Speaker 2: you know, and he was it was going off for
Speaker 2: two hours. I said, really, I had no idea because
Speaker 2: I was so busy talking with other people.
Speaker 3: So I had to MC man, you need a MC
Speaker 3: for the event.
Speaker 2: North Carolina squatch Watches were they were was complaining because
Speaker 2: they couldn't get him to stop. I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh. Yeah, because they were right up next to
Speaker 2: where the speakers were doing their presentations and so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So I was like, damn it, the squatch walk. The
Speaker 2: squatch watchers can't even stop him. I was like, what's
Speaker 2: kind of I said, I'll do what I can. I
Speaker 2: walked in there down the side of the audience and
Speaker 2: I literally actually had to walk right up to him,
Speaker 2: but like I was staring right at him with my
Speaker 2: hands across in front of me, you know, keeping a
Speaker 2: smile looking at Hymone. When he finally came, I was like,
Speaker 2: I did the I did the signal with my hands
Speaker 2: swiping across my throat, like finally, I think he picked
Speaker 2: up on it. And yeah, the squatch watchers or whoever
Speaker 2: else was scheduled to speak after him were Yeah, they
Speaker 2: were kind of like frustrated. So I was like, it
Speaker 2: was out of my control up me. I get yeah,
Speaker 2: I get they're saying. I was like, they want to
Speaker 2: be able to have enough time to speak and share
Speaker 2: what they want to talk about, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2: But it worked out. So but I tell you what
Speaker 2: before we go, is you're anything anything that you want
Speaker 2: to throw out there and share it to the public,
Speaker 2: job or you might want to direct into something or
Speaker 2: any kind of advice. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah. I've got a few things. As you've heard
Speaker 3: me mentioned. I'm the founder and president of Manimal Research.
Speaker 3: If you would like to get involved with my organization,
Speaker 3: get out and do some research and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: be come to some of our campouts. Check out our
Speaker 3: website manimal research dot org. I'm also the host of
Speaker 3: Paranormal Odyssey podcasts. We do live shows every Tuesday and
Speaker 3: Saturday on YouTube. That's why we're having to cut this
Speaker 3: one off here right now because it's currently Saturday night
Speaker 3: and I've got to get ready for my Saturday interview tonight.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm also the co host of that Bigfoot
Speaker 3: podcast with mister Brian King Sharp, who is the host
Speaker 3: of Sasquatch Odyssey. You can find both of those podcasts
Speaker 3: anywhere that you get podcasts, Apple, Spotify, just Google anywhere.
Speaker 3: We are literally everywhere. I'm speaking at a couple events
Speaker 3: this year, Missouri Ozark Bigfoot Conference that is in October
Speaker 3: October fourth. I believe there's also a camp out. Had
Speaker 3: an awesome time at that event last year, doing it
Speaker 3: again this year and I hope they have me back
Speaker 3: a year in and year out because it's just a phenomenal,
Speaker 3: phenomenal time. Please check that out if you're in the area. Also,
Speaker 3: I am speaking in Ohio at the Spirit of the
Speaker 3: Forest Bigfoot Conference also in October, So got a pretty
Speaker 3: busy September in October. But yeah, I hope that's not
Speaker 3: too much for y'all. If you can check all that
Speaker 3: stuff out, I would greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome. So, lady and gentlemen, one thing
Speaker 2: I did not do tonight, you know, you guys will
Speaker 2: live Since of the previous episodes and the podcast that
Speaker 2: we have, we promote all the upcoming events that I'm
Speaker 2: speaking at, and then there's others that I'm not speaking at.
Speaker 2: But we will have an updated commercial ad for that
Speaker 2: in the near future. So if you want to know
Speaker 2: about any upcoming events, feel free and stay tuned to
Speaker 2: the very end of the show. I will play that
Speaker 2: commercial ad. It will be updated soon. So first of all,
Speaker 2: I want to thank you Wwayne Man. This has been
Speaker 2: great again. We will have you on here very soon
Speaker 2: in the near future in our next roundtable talk because
Speaker 2: I got a couple of people wanting to jump on
Speaker 2: board doing a round table talk again. So maybe you'll
Speaker 2: have better luck to get contact with Jessica Jones because
Speaker 2: she don't like to look at her messages too much
Speaker 2: unless I try to tag her in a post or something.
Speaker 2: You know, I hate doing it that way, but you know,
Speaker 2: I know she's busy. I feel like a paint of
Speaker 2: butt trying to contact her, but he is.
Speaker 3: She's a very very busy lady. And yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: SA excuse me. I appreciate the opportunity. Always fun hanging
Speaker 3: out with you. Those of you that don't know, I
Speaker 3: always tell this out anytime Daniel and I do anything
Speaker 3: together and hang out. Daniel was one of the very
Speaker 3: first people that I reached out to when I started
Speaker 3: my organization, I started doing shows on YouTube. He was
Speaker 3: one of my first guests. He's always been there to
Speaker 3: answer questions and helped me out anyway that he can.
Speaker 3: And Daniel's just an awesome dude. So I appreciate everything
Speaker 3: that you do, buddy, I really do.
Speaker 2: Hey, man, I really appreciate that. And all you're checking
Speaker 2: the mail for saying that.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: A good deal man. Now, seriously, I really do appreciate
Speaker 2: those kind of words. So and yeah, I mean, we're
Speaker 2: all in this, you know. You know, we love what
Speaker 2: we do. It's it's educational. It's educational for us being
Speaker 2: on the receiving end of you know, hearing these reports
Speaker 2: and we take notes and you know, and we'd love
Speaker 2: to share our opinions and our knowledge as we learned.
Speaker 3: You know, so ably, thank you again for a little Benny.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you have a good evening and until next time, man,
Speaker 2: thank you again, see you both. Ayr bye bye DCBRO.
Speaker 2: Bigfoot Radio fans, it's time to grab your pens, your
Speaker 2: calendars and start writing down these dates for these upcoming events.
Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty five year, February eighth, the ECBRO
Speaker 2: is hosting a big Foot in lunch gathering in Lexington, Virginia,
Speaker 2: happening at the Legendary Eats Cafe. If you have a
Speaker 2: Bigfoot story, or if you're just a fan of Bigfoot
Speaker 2: and you want to learn what's going on with the
Speaker 2: ECBRO and I know who they are and what they do,
Speaker 2: this event's for you. It's a free event. The only
Speaker 2: thing that is going to cost you if you want
Speaker 2: to buy off the menu and enjoy a delicious meal
Speaker 2: while you sit among other researchers. All right. Moving ahead
Speaker 2: in the month of March. March twenty nine is a
Speaker 2: penn Ohio hearn olmal Cohn happening at the Tivioty Banquet
Speaker 2: Center and Creatable Ohio. Yes, that is also sponsored and
Speaker 2: hosted by mister Bill Rigby. All Right, jumping ahead into
Speaker 2: the month of June, Boy, do we have some awesome
Speaker 2: stuff going on. In June again. I hope you're marking
Speaker 2: this down and I hope you prepare yourself to attend
Speaker 2: these events. June sixth, seventh, and eighth Happening in Marionville, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: the Forest County Bigfoot Festival. The event that's grown so
Speaker 2: huge it's unbelievable. You're going to want to attend this event.
Speaker 2: Over one hundred vendors, food trucks, and guest speakers. This
Speaker 2: event is something you want to attend. Not to mention
Speaker 2: if you'd like to go squatching. There is the Alleganty
Speaker 2: National State Forest nearby. You're going to want to check
Speaker 2: that forest out. It's very squatching. June twentyeth and twenty
Speaker 2: first happening in Where's Cay, Virginia at the Where's Ky
Speaker 2: Community Center is the annual ECBRO Virginia big Foot Conference. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's right there, being held at the Community Center and
Speaker 2: Where's Ky, Virginia. Both indoor and outdoor vendors, guest speakers
Speaker 2: for an activity and contest for the kids. You're gonna
Speaker 2: want to check this out. If you've never been to
Speaker 2: this event, it's very fun. You get to meet up
Speaker 2: with other light minded people, get to go out and
Speaker 2: hang out with them in the evenings around them fire.
Speaker 2: If you're getting a special invite, you get to have
Speaker 2: a lot more. You're gonna want to check that out
Speaker 2: and start becoming a part of that event, because that
Speaker 2: is not just in an event, it's like a family gathering.
Speaker 2: That's June twentieth and twenty first, so feel free to
Speaker 2: check that out and ladies and gentlemen. Happening in the
Speaker 2: month of June. Also June twenty sixth, twenty seventh, and
Speaker 2: twenty eighth, happening in Sutton, West Virginia, is the annual
Speaker 2: Western Virginia Bigfoot Festival. Another massive, huge festival with over
Speaker 2: one hundred of vendors, all kinds of activity and fun
Speaker 2: and contests for kids and people of all ages, guest sneakers, celebrities,
Speaker 2: people you're gonna want to get to know and get
Speaker 2: to meet and learn grow. Ladies and gentlemen, I hope
Speaker 2: you guys are taking the time to mark these dates
Speaker 2: and these locations down. If you have any questions regarding
Speaker 2: any of these events, send an email to ecbro ninety
Speaker 2: eight at gmail dot com. Again, ladies and gentlemen, I
Speaker 2: want to thank you guys for tuning in and choosing
Speaker 2: ECBR or big Foot Radio as your destination. We have
Speaker 2: more shows coming up in the near future. Continue to
Speaker 2: follow and share our content. The more we grow, the
Speaker 2: more we can produce. We believe in spreading awareness and
Speaker 2: spreading knowledge and so much more. Keep it squatching, my friends.
Speaker 2: This is your host, Daniel Benoa, founder of the ECBR,
Speaker 2: the East Coast big Foot Researchers Organization, and until next time,
Speaker 2: m HM.