Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show, let's have some fun on a Thursday
Speaker 1: and all we are going to have so much fun
Speaker 1: tonight on a Thursday, and ask doctor Jesse Thursday. Dome
Speaker 1: has a book coming out. We'll make fun of her,
Speaker 1: but of course we have to make it about you
Speaker 1: and your questions. And man, I hope you like history,
Speaker 1: because we're apparently gonna do a lot of that tonight.
Speaker 1: We're also gonna talk about single subject bills, illegal immigration,
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about people believing the mainstream media, also
Speaker 1: believing mainstream science, fascinating questions from you. It's going to
Speaker 1: be a rip roaring good time. So let us begin now.
Speaker 1: I want to begin with actually kind of a different
Speaker 1: one that I just thought was so cool. And I
Speaker 1: got a bunch of these emails, different forms of them.
Speaker 1: I can't read them all. I'm not going to read
Speaker 1: them all. It would be too boring, but there just
Speaker 1: know that I loved them all. Personal connections to World
Speaker 1: War two and the Kama Kazi stuff that we talked
Speaker 1: about earlier in the week. Don't worry, I'll get to
Speaker 1: politics in a minute. We're going to talk about single
Speaker 1: subject bills and things like that. So it's going to
Speaker 1: be up and down in history and modern and all
Speaker 1: kinds of things tonight on the Jesse Kelly Show. But
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of these, and so many of these, man,
Speaker 1: it's just amazing. The subject to this one is Kama
Speaker 1: Kazi show USS Franklin. The USS Franklin, for those who
Speaker 1: don't know, was a World War Two aircraft carrier suffered
Speaker 1: horribly a Kama Kazi attack. I hope I don't mess
Speaker 1: this up. I believe over three hundred men on that
Speaker 1: ship died in one Kama Kazi attack. It was terrible,
Speaker 1: fire's bombs, it was awful. They had a ceremony to
Speaker 1: bury the men at sea the next day, and I
Speaker 1: think it was eight hours long if I remember right.
Speaker 1: It was terrible. Anyway, this guy says, Jesse, the Kama
Speaker 1: Kazi history lesson was off awesome. I just finished it
Speaker 1: while catching up on your show. I wanted to share
Speaker 1: a cool story of my grandfather, Benjamin Marion Ricks. He
Speaker 1: was on the USS Franklin when it was attacked by
Speaker 1: Japanese Kama Kazis. After sustaining catastrophic damage and massive casualties,
Speaker 1: it became known as the Ship that would not die.
Speaker 1: They defended multiple waves of kamakazis before the USS Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: came to rescue and tugged it into Pearl. They tugged
Speaker 1: ships back to Pearl Harbor, back to San Francisco, back
Speaker 1: to several places in America for repairs when they couldn't
Speaker 1: repair them at see by the way, those who didn't
Speaker 1: abandon ship were given the prestigious award of being in
Speaker 1: the seven zero four Club, which Ben was part of.
Speaker 1: I can't put all the detail in this email because
Speaker 1: you will just lose attention and throw my email in
Speaker 1: the trash. That's not true, all right, it's true. After
Speaker 1: my grandfather was discharged and the war was over, Ben
Speaker 1: got dropped off in Brooklyn, New York, where he promptly
Speaker 1: borrowed his buddy's motorcycle to pick up my at the
Speaker 1: time sixteen year old grandmother and crashed on the way
Speaker 1: to their first date. He was thrown in jail for
Speaker 1: being well dating a sixteen year old. He gets out
Speaker 1: of jail, visits her at the hospital. They fell in love,
Speaker 1: got married, had my mom. He and Peg lived until
Speaker 1: their nineties. They just don't make them like they used to.
Speaker 1: Man John is this guy's name. And that's the kind
Speaker 1: of stuff you send me. When we do these kinds
Speaker 1: of histories, whether it's Vietnam or Korea or World War two,
Speaker 1: or it becomes alive and special, and I love it,
Speaker 1: blesses us beyond end here the Jesse Kelly Show. When
Speaker 1: we can bless you in that way, and it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Now let's move on. We'll do some ugly politics stuff.
Speaker 1: But I'm warning you, apparently history was on your mind.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that coming tonight, a lot of
Speaker 1: it coming tonight, and I'm just in that kind of
Speaker 1: a mood. Plus, there's no gigantic world ending story we
Speaker 1: have to tackle. So maybe we'll just screw off for
Speaker 1: a while tonight. But let's do get to some, honestly
Speaker 1: some important items like this one, Dear Jesse. While we
Speaker 1: control everything, why do Republicans not bring forth single item
Speaker 1: bills like requiring voter id or including males from female sports.
Speaker 1: His name is Gil. It's a very good question. You
Speaker 1: could ask the question about a lot of things. We
Speaker 1: have the House, we have, the Senate, we have the presidency.
Speaker 1: A single item bill seems so simple, doesn't it very simple?
Speaker 1: It's there's no negative to it. Why why not bring
Speaker 1: that forward? So you know how we talked yesterday. Maybe
Speaker 1: you remember we were talking about the communist politicians, Democrat politicians,
Speaker 1: and I was warning about the real Admiral Buddhaje Edge,
Speaker 1: how he's a true believer, he's got a real hate,
Speaker 1: a hatred, a darkness inside of him, a real hatred
Speaker 1: for America. But then I brought up Chuck Schumer. I mean,
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer is I called him a lizard person yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I really do mean that. You can hear it
Speaker 1: when he talks. Chuck Schumer doesn't believe in anything, nothing,
Speaker 1: not right wing, not left wing. He's been a soulless
Speaker 1: politician for so long he can't even really fake it
Speaker 1: that well, whenever he's out there giving a speech about something,
Speaker 1: he just he's going to say and do whatever it
Speaker 1: is that keeps him in power. All right, you probably
Speaker 1: remember we talked about that yesterday. Well, here's here's the
Speaker 1: bad side of that, the truth of that. You don't
Speaker 1: think it's only Democrats who do that, right? How many
Speaker 1: elected Republicans at every level in this country do you
Speaker 1: think are only committed to staying in power it's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's not all of them. I'm not saying that they're
Speaker 1: all crooks, they're all trash. That's not true at all.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of these people personally. Yes, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of them who are crooks in trash.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of really good people. But there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who are simply a Republican
Speaker 1: version of Chuck Schumer. And they'll tell you the things
Speaker 1: you want to hear when they think they can manipulate you,
Speaker 1: but they're not in it for America or a secure border,
Speaker 1: or low taxes or cutting spending or pro life or
Speaker 1: whatever your issue is or my issue is. They're lizard people,
Speaker 1: just like Chuck Schumer is, who will say whatever they
Speaker 1: have to say on camera, but when it comes down
Speaker 1: to brass tax they're not going to actually do anything.
Speaker 1: Do you remember I actually kind of slips in my
Speaker 1: mind what the issue was in Wyoming. I believe it
Speaker 1: was a boys and girls' sports issue. Wyoming. You may
Speaker 1: be not familiar with Wyoming. I am, because I grew
Speaker 1: up in Montana. We'd go down to Wyoming, we go
Speaker 1: anelope hunting. Wyoming is a beautiful, really really cool state,
Speaker 1: but there's like nobody there. It's enormous, and I think
Speaker 1: the population is something like five hundred thousand people. It's
Speaker 1: just there's just nobody there. The weather's brutal, it's not
Speaker 1: many people can can survive that kind of weather want
Speaker 1: to survive that kind of weather. But Wyoming is unbelievably red.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they only have I haven't looked in a while.
Speaker 1: One maximum two congressional seats. I bet you it's one.
Speaker 1: I guarantee it's Republican. But it's more than that. If
Speaker 1: you break the state down by their state seats, state House,
Speaker 1: state Senate, I'm not sure there is an elected Democrat
Speaker 1: in a state wide seat in Wyoming. It's just red.
Speaker 1: And if there is, there's one or two, it's just red,
Speaker 1: blood red. And yet they're shooting down obvious Republican bills.
Speaker 1: How does that happen? Why does that happen? Well, here's how,
Speaker 1: and Wyane happens. There are democrats in Wyoming. There are
Speaker 1: power hungry lizard people in Wyoming. And those lizard people
Speaker 1: they understand you can't run for office as a Democrat,
Speaker 1: and they understand they're okay, so they'll fake being Republicans.
Speaker 1: I'm a Republican, God and Country. But they also understand
Speaker 1: they have to learn to speak the language of the Republican.
Speaker 1: And so what do they do. They go, they raise
Speaker 1: money and then on their campaign commercials or on the
Speaker 1: little mailers they send you. If you're in Wyoming, you
Speaker 1: get a card and it's you know, Bob Western and
Speaker 1: he's talking about how much he loves guns and he's
Speaker 1: going to be pro life in load taxes. Now does
Speaker 1: he believe any of those things? Probably not, but he understands.
Speaker 1: If you want power, if you want to go to
Speaker 1: the state House, you want to go to the state
Speaker 1: Center in Wyoming, you have to pretend. You have to
Speaker 1: lie or you're never getting elected. Now let's go to
Speaker 1: the federal government. If that's a problem in a God
Speaker 1: and Country, blood red state like Wyoming, how much do
Speaker 1: you think it's a problem in the United States House
Speaker 1: of Representatives. How many Republicans sitting in the House right
Speaker 1: now do you think truly share your values versus how
Speaker 1: many know they have to pretend come election season. We'll
Speaker 1: expand on that a little bit more here in a moment,
Speaker 1: doctor Jesse Thursday, because I won't be here tomorrow. But
Speaker 1: don't worry. I'll be back on Monday and medal of
Speaker 1: honor Monday. I am gonna have to start cooking up
Speaker 1: another history show for you at some point. I haven't
Speaker 1: decided what I'm gonna do it on. You don't It's
Speaker 1: not coming next week, so don't be getting your hopes up.
Speaker 1: We got to do some more politics and I'll get
Speaker 1: to some history tonight. Don't worry. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: continue what we were talking about there. Guy sends an
Speaker 1: email and says, Hey, why don't we have single item
Speaker 1: bills right now? We have Republicans in the House, we
Speaker 1: have Republicans in the Senate, we have a Republican president.
Speaker 1: Voter ID. That's a simple one. Get it out there.
Speaker 1: It's simple, it's easy. We'd have the votes. So I've
Speaker 1: shared this story with you before, but I'm gonna share
Speaker 1: it again. I ran for Congress twice, as you well know,
Speaker 1: in Arizona. I was the Republican nominee twice in Arizona
Speaker 1: when onund to lose the general, but I was the
Speaker 1: Republican nominee twice. My first time, I experienced a lot
Speaker 1: of things that really I don't I won't say shook me,
Speaker 1: but it definitely made me sit up in my chair
Speaker 1: and notice how things really worked in this country. When
Speaker 1: you're running for Congress, if especially once you become the nominee,
Speaker 1: you will, if you ever do this, you will have
Speaker 1: to go back to Washington, D C. For money. That's
Speaker 1: what you're going back there for. You go back and
Speaker 1: you try to get campaign donations from other congressmen and
Speaker 1: from all all kinds of various political pacts who may
Speaker 1: align with you. Now let me pause on this for
Speaker 1: a quick second and clarify something. Not all political packs
Speaker 1: are bad. There are all kinds of wonderful ones out
Speaker 1: there that believe what you believe, and they're pushing for
Speaker 1: those things. And they'll find candidates who will who they
Speaker 1: can back even in a primary sometimes, who will push
Speaker 1: for the things they want. I'll tell you one right now,
Speaker 1: Citizens United. Citizens United. Everyone knows the name because of
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court case. But Citizens United didn't wait until
Speaker 1: I won the general election to send me a check.
Speaker 1: They wanted more hardcore people in Congress. They get involved
Speaker 1: in a primary, they said, no, no, we need Jesse
Speaker 1: to win against the establishment guy. They thy win anyway.
Speaker 1: Set him out aside, you go back to raise money.
Speaker 1: One night, I'm out with a couple of congressmen, they're
Speaker 1: just friends of mine, and I'm out and we go
Speaker 1: to dinner and there was a pack that I'm not
Speaker 1: going to name, and it was one of these packs
Speaker 1: that represents an industry you would know, and probably an
Speaker 1: industry you would like to be honest with you, but
Speaker 1: an industry you would know. Now, this industry gets a
Speaker 1: lot of federal money, a lot of federal money. Probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't a lot of it, probably not justified, but they
Speaker 1: get a lot of federal money. They sat down to
Speaker 1: dinner with me, they were part of this group. And
Speaker 1: I'm back there making my pitch. Hey, I'm Jesse Kelly,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna save America and all the naive things
Speaker 1: you believe when you're young and then running for all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I'm going to save the country by myself.
Speaker 1: So I make my pitch. But they weren't really interested
Speaker 1: in that. They didn't care about my position on really
Speaker 1: any issue, any issue none. They didn't ask to be
Speaker 1: a specific thing. The only thing they wanted to know was, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna keep the money flowing, right if a bill
Speaker 1: comes up and it means money for us, you're going
Speaker 1: to vote yes on that right. And of course I
Speaker 1: didn't tell them that told him now, I was like that,
Speaker 1: I just didn't care. But that answer, and they made
Speaker 1: it obvious. It was not like it was subtle. That
Speaker 1: answer was going to determine whether they use their vast
Speaker 1: quantity of money to back my candidacy or not. They
Speaker 1: chose to abstain because of the answer I gave them. Now,
Speaker 1: that's one example of I know, it's not shocking to
Speaker 1: you of how it works. How many Republicans in the
Speaker 1: House of Representatives in the United States Senate, how many
Speaker 1: of them want to keep getting re elected pretty much
Speaker 1: all of them. How do you get reelected? Well, you
Speaker 1: have to raise money. It's really, really, really ea to
Speaker 1: give in the temptation. We're all susceptible to it, aren't you.
Speaker 1: I know, I am, I'm a human being. You want
Speaker 1: to get reelected, you want to go back to the Senate,
Speaker 1: you want to go back to the House for another
Speaker 1: two years. Well, you know what doesn't get you there?
Speaker 1: Single subject bills that help the American people. You know
Speaker 1: what does get you reelected? A large, large campaign war
Speaker 1: chest where you can go to the people of Wyoming,
Speaker 1: the people of South Carolina, and you can run an
Speaker 1: ad on TV when they're watching Fox News at night
Speaker 1: telling them how much you stand with Trump in the
Speaker 1: Second Amendment, and I love God. It takes a lot
Speaker 1: of money to run that ad. How do you get
Speaker 1: that money? You get that money by stealing from the
Speaker 1: American people. And you steal from the American people. Not
Speaker 1: with single subject bills that help the American people. You
Speaker 1: steal from the American people by loading a bunch of
Speaker 1: crap into good bills, forcing Congress to vote yes on it.
Speaker 1: The money flows to them. Your money flows to them.
Speaker 1: They in turn rite you a check for it, and
Speaker 1: everybody wins, except of course, the American people. That's how
Speaker 1: it works. It's ugly. I hate it, you hate it,
Speaker 1: but that's how it works. Let's do a little history,
Speaker 1: just a little history. Then we'll get back to we
Speaker 1: legals and things like that. Jesse Kelly's Show on a
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Speaker 1: show at your leisure or leisure Chris, don't shake your
Speaker 1: head anyway. I'm sorry, I have to play this before
Speaker 1: we get back to the questions. Dome Today made a
Speaker 1: huge announcement.
Speaker 2: Just over a year ago. I launched my campaign for
Speaker 2: President of the United States, one hundred and seven days
Speaker 2: traveling the country fighting for our future, the shortest presidential
Speaker 2: campaign in modern history. It was intense, high stakes, and
Speaker 2: deeply personal for me and for so many of you.
Speaker 2: Since leaving office, I've spent a lot of time reflecting
Speaker 2: on those days, talking with my team, my family, my friends,
Speaker 2: and pulling my thoughts together.
Speaker 1: And Es, No, she totally sounds a little soft, absolutely, Chris.
Speaker 3: Since writing a journal that is this book, one hundred
Speaker 3: and seven days with candor and reflection, I've written a
Speaker 3: behind the scenes account of that journey.
Speaker 2: In writing this book, one truth kept coming.
Speaker 3: Back to me.
Speaker 1: Our soundboards still a little messed up. I really missed
Speaker 1: my fart sound. I was going to finish the what, Chris,
Speaker 1: I was gonna do the I was gonna all right,
Speaker 1: So before we get back to the questions. Let's do
Speaker 1: another little kind of uh behind the scenes look at politics.
Speaker 1: Something I've discovered from working in politics and doing radio
Speaker 1: and TV and and and then I wrote a book,
Speaker 1: The Anti Communist Manifesto, available at Jesse kellybook dot com.
Speaker 1: What Chris anyway? Uh? Politics? Politicians, they've discovered the ultimate way,
Speaker 1: uh to get rich. They write a book. They write
Speaker 1: a book. Nobody's interested in. How many people are going
Speaker 1: to buy domes one hundred and seven days book? Even
Speaker 1: even democrats? How many people Kamala Harris his own family,
Speaker 1: They don't want to read her stupid book that somebody
Speaker 1: Ghoest wrote for her. No one cares about this, but
Speaker 1: she she'll make millions. It happens all the time. These
Speaker 1: Democrats come out with these books and they make millions. Now,
Speaker 1: remember when we discussed a system membership card. You know
Speaker 1: what the system is? We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 1: All the institutions supposed to be separate. Now they all
Speaker 1: now that they're all conquered by communists, they work together,
Speaker 1: speak with one boy's one purpose. You got all that,
Speaker 1: And we talk about a system membership card essentially proving
Speaker 1: to be a loyal member of the Communist Party. If
Speaker 1: you are loyal to the system, there are generous rewards.
Speaker 1: It's how so many people fall victim to it. So
Speaker 1: many people get sucked in by it. It pays big
Speaker 1: money to be loyal to the system. We're all making
Speaker 1: fun of Stephen Colbert because his show got canceled. His
Speaker 1: show is losing forty million dollars a year. If you
Speaker 1: lost your boss forty dollars dollars a year, you would
Speaker 1: get fired. Stephen Colbert was making what was he making?
Speaker 1: Chris something like ten million? I think he was making
Speaker 1: ten million, if not more a year. He will retire hit.
Speaker 1: The rest of his life will be mansions in private
Speaker 1: jets for a show that lost forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: How could that go on as long as it did?
Speaker 1: He was a loyal member of the system. How much
Speaker 1: Chris fifteen mil a year professional quarterback money? Well not anymore,
Speaker 1: but used to be professional quarterback money. That's because he
Speaker 1: was loyal. Now, for politicians, here's how it works. They
Speaker 1: write a book no one cares about. Michelle Obama did
Speaker 1: this Dome did it? They all do it. They write
Speaker 1: a book no one cares about no one's buying it,
Speaker 1: no one's reading it. So how does the money come
Speaker 1: flowing in? Well, the book publisher will give you an
Speaker 1: advance based on anticipated sales, the size of your platform
Speaker 1: in advanced Look, I got one for mine. I believe me.
Speaker 1: It was not Michelle Obama's, but I got one for mine.
Speaker 1: You get an advance. Hey, you have this kind of
Speaker 1: a following, you have a radio show, you have a
Speaker 1: famous this, you have whatever. This is what we think
Speaker 1: your book will sell. Let us write you a large
Speaker 1: check and they divvy it out by you know, published date,
Speaker 1: the date you finished writing it to. But let us
Speaker 1: write you a large check for it. You cash the money,
Speaker 1: publish the book, go on a little book tour. Okay,
Speaker 1: why would Dome get a I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: I actually don't know the number, but I promise you
Speaker 1: the number is north of a million dollars. Why would
Speaker 1: don't We'll just call it a million. It'll be north
Speaker 1: of that. Why would Dome get a million dollars from
Speaker 1: any book publisher? Do they want to lose money? Well, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that. You know, we talk about the system
Speaker 1: membership card. Well, there is a large large of cash
Speaker 1: by a lot of its taxpayer money through nonprofits in
Speaker 1: these NGOs, some of its communist billionaires, the George Soros types,
Speaker 1: and many others. He's just the name you would know.
Speaker 1: There's a huge amount of communist money flowing through our system.
Speaker 1: How it works is you find yourself a communist group
Speaker 1: who will purchase fifty thousand, one hundred thousand copies of
Speaker 1: your book. Not only does that put you on the
Speaker 1: bestseller list, but the publisher makes back all the money
Speaker 1: they just gave you foreign advance. So it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where everyone wins if you're a loyal member
Speaker 1: of the system, if your system membership card is up
Speaker 1: to date. Dome writes a book one hundred and seven days.
Speaker 1: No one gives it crap, but it will sell a ton,
Speaker 1: And when the numbers come out of how many had sold,
Speaker 1: you'll look at the numbers in your say are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Fifty thousand people bought this crappy book. No
Speaker 1: one wants to read that. Fifty thousand books are sitting
Speaker 1: in a cardboard box at Communist Inc. The NGO who
Speaker 1: purchased fifty thousand copies, probably in a roundabout way with
Speaker 1: taxpayer funds maybe with George Soros money. The publisher got
Speaker 1: their money back, Dome got paid, she got money in
Speaker 1: the bank, and everyone wins. And this is how all
Speaker 1: communist systems have always operated. Communist systems operate by rewarding
Speaker 1: people who were loyal to the system. It's always worked
Speaker 1: that way and always will. In East Germany, the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, whatever,
Speaker 1: everyone wasn't starving. Oh yeah, millions and millions of people
Speaker 1: were tortured and killed and starved, but not loyal members
Speaker 1: to the party. If you were loyal to the party,
Speaker 1: You've got a great car, you got a great job,
Speaker 1: you got benefits you need, healthcare, will fly you somewhere,
Speaker 1: no big stake night tonight sounds good, boys? Oh what's that?
Speaker 1: Another ten million peasants died last month. They should have
Speaker 1: gotten their loyalty card. That's how it's always worked, and
Speaker 1: that's how it works. With the Communist book network. It
Speaker 1: does not work that way. On the right the right.
Speaker 1: You have to sell books. This is the bottom line.
Speaker 1: You have to sell books. There really aren't, at least
Speaker 1: not that I'm aware of. I'm sure maybe there's one
Speaker 1: or two out there. There's not a big organization that
Speaker 1: will come swoop in and buy up, you know, ten
Speaker 1: thousand copies, one hundred thousand copies of your book and
Speaker 1: make you a bunch of cheddar that doesn't really exist.
Speaker 1: On the right, we don't have that kind of patren
Speaker 1: Inch network, but the communists in this country. Do you
Speaker 1: want to know how Bernie Sanders has three homes? How
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's going to make a bunch of money? Dome,
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. That's how it works. You have a ghost writer,
Speaker 1: you pay him fifty grand, he writes your book for you.
Speaker 1: Pretty clean, pretty easy. You're done. Your rich publisher made money.
Speaker 1: You made money. Some billionaires out what one hundred grand?
Speaker 1: He didn't even know it existed. He's got one hundred
Speaker 1: grand in his sofa, and everyone wins. Sorry, I went
Speaker 1: off on a political tangent. Now we'll go back and
Speaker 1: do some more. Asked doctor Jesse, questions is what is
Speaker 1: a historical thing that kind of disillusioned me? Great email,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that in a moment. Before we talk
Speaker 1: about that, we did get an emails asking me to
Speaker 1: do a history episode on the guys behind enemy lines
Speaker 1: in Vietnam. Those are the MACV sog guys, Chris, do
Speaker 1: you have that date the date we did that. I'll
Speaker 1: get it for you when we come back. No, it's fine,
Speaker 1: I'll get it for you when we come back. I
Speaker 1: did one of those already. I'm not going to do
Speaker 1: another one. It's known as mac v song. Those were
Speaker 1: the guys who loos Cambodia behind enemy lines, and honestly,
Speaker 1: most of them died. Jesse Kelly Show on a Fantastic Thursday.
Speaker 1: I feel like I got too dark. I was talking
Speaker 1: about ugly political things. I don't like it. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: in a great mood. I don't like it. Let's do
Speaker 1: let's do some other stuff. Hey, Jesse, I'm a big
Speaker 1: history guy like you. I really appreciate the book references
Speaker 1: you give out sometimes, though I'm disappointed when I learned
Speaker 1: about the reality of stuff. I read a book called
Speaker 1: Black Flags, Blue Waters on the Golden Age of piracy,
Speaker 1: and it turns out being a pirate kind of sucked.
Speaker 1: It didn't last very long, and you probably died. What's
Speaker 1: the most disillusioning historical thing you've learned? Because let's focus
Speaker 1: on the pirate thing for a moment, there is something
Speaker 1: known as the Golden Age of Piracy. Maybe you've heard
Speaker 1: of this before, the Golden Age of piracy. You just
Speaker 1: mentioned it in the email. It's it's like a year.
Speaker 1: I know. Look, hey, I watched Pirates of the Caribbean too.
Speaker 1: I have kids too. Surely, surely they're having a good time.
Speaker 1: They're drinking some room, they're singing and dancing some funny lines.
Speaker 1: It didn't last very long. It didn't last very long
Speaker 1: at all. It didn't last very long because the pirates
Speaker 1: in the Golden Age of piracy, they were stealing from
Speaker 1: large powerful empires with large powerful navies, and large powerful
Speaker 1: empires with armies and navies do not allow you to
Speaker 1: take their goods. They will kill you if you do so.
Speaker 1: Then now and always. The friggin Romans did this actually,
Speaker 1: Pompy Magnus. I brought up Pompy Magnus last night. One
Speaker 1: of his big claims to fame was there were a
Speaker 1: bunch of pirates that popped up in a Mediterranean and
Speaker 1: they were pillaging some Roman stuff. Ooh yeah, they all died.
Speaker 1: Pompy Magnus just marched down there and murdered every single
Speaker 1: one of them. It didn't last very long. And as
Speaker 1: far as it how bad it sucked. I'm gonna expand
Speaker 1: this beyond piracy. I'm a dude, and because I'm a dude,
Speaker 1: I am fascinated with sailing, old sailing ships. Not modern
Speaker 1: stuff like that that doesn't interest me at all, but
Speaker 1: old sailing ships. Christopher Columbus, Sir Francis Drake, you name it,
Speaker 1: I am fascinated by it. Warships, exploration in Magellan, all
Speaker 1: of it. I'm fascinated by it. That's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's something about the adventure of it, the danger of it.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it. Keep in mind, that was a
Speaker 1: life of living hell that many of those guys many
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would say majority, because I
Speaker 1: don't have numbers on that. They were outlaws, They were
Speaker 1: out casts. They were people who didn't have other options.
Speaker 1: Not only was there horrible danger, mainly from the weather,
Speaker 1: the food was beyond putrid. Remember this is pre refrigeration.
Speaker 1: The water had to be in buckets. Imagine a hot
Speaker 1: bucket of water in the bottom of a ship being
Speaker 1: your only source of fresh water. The bathroom situation, the
Speaker 1: discipline on the ships had to be unbelievably rigid because
Speaker 1: of the type of people We're not even just talking
Speaker 1: about pirate ships because of the type of people who
Speaker 1: would have to work on the ships. You fill up
Speaker 1: a ship with a bunch of convicts or guys kind
Speaker 1: of from the rough side of the tracks. And I'm
Speaker 1: not insulting you if you're from the rough side of
Speaker 1: the tracks, but you're going to have to do terrible
Speaker 1: things to keep people in mind. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: put fear in them. It would be awful to have
Speaker 1: been on an old sailing ship, absolutely awful. And then
Speaker 1: when you get wherever you're going, it's not as if
Speaker 1: there's a shower waiting for you in a comfy bed
Speaker 1: and a dime who wants you to tell her about
Speaker 1: all of her adventures. You show up in some miserable
Speaker 1: dump and there are hostile natives, hostile weather. If you're
Speaker 1: in a town of some kind, it's not very pleasant
Speaker 1: there either. And so much of the exploration that when
Speaker 1: this is something you don't think about, it was in
Speaker 1: hot places, miserable places. Look, it sounds great to be
Speaker 1: on a pirate ship exploring the Caribbean. Yeah, I'd love
Speaker 1: to be exploring the Caribbean right now, just like you
Speaker 1: would in a ship that has air conditioning. You know
Speaker 1: what's not pleasant. One hundred and five degrees with one
Speaker 1: hundred percent humidity and no air conditioning whatsoever and nothing
Speaker 1: to escape it. I told you before I went to
Speaker 1: ab and I did a Haunted Jail tour in Charleston,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Totally cool. It was so cool. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm always trying to see a ghost, and I didn't
Speaker 1: see one there either. But the jail tour, the history
Speaker 1: of it was amazing. Was in a really rough part
Speaker 1: of town. But either way, Haunted Jail Tour was sick
Speaker 1: and one of the worst parts of the jail they
Speaker 1: talked about it all the time, was a freaking heat. Charleston,
Speaker 1: South Carolina's one of my favorite cities in the country. Now.
Speaker 1: It was not very pleasant pre air conditioning. Neither was
Speaker 1: the jail where they'd stuff you in a cell with
Speaker 1: no breeze whatsoever and you just sit there and rot
Speaker 1: and sweat every single day. Being a pirate would have
Speaker 1: been horrible. It was a life you only lived if
Speaker 1: you had no other options. I'm sorry you were disillusioned
Speaker 1: by it, but I have one as well. Actually, I
Speaker 1: have a few of these things. Sometimes when you start
Speaker 1: reading history books or even watching documentaries or things like that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes oftentimes it's kind of cooler than you thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be. I'll be honest, The Kamikazes were
Speaker 1: deeper than I thought they were going to be. Weren't you? Chris?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? On? Even Chris agrees it wasn't what
Speaker 1: I expected. I just expected a bunch of fanatical demons
Speaker 1: flying their planes into ships. That's just what I expected.
Speaker 1: It was deeper than I thought. Sometimes history surprises you
Speaker 1: in a good way. Other times it doesn't. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that. Thanks,