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Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started hour number two here
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Speaker 2: specifically and even some on Saturday, I was outside a
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Speaker 2: was with a lot of family on Sunday yesterday with
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Speaker 2: believe it or not, this is not a joke. I
Speaker 2: did talk about the Masters and it probably wasn't you know,
Speaker 2: a great segment when it comes to, you know, analyzing
Speaker 2: what went on yesterday with Rory McElroy getting it done.
Speaker 2: But it was the first time I've ever watched it
Speaker 2: to that extent and felt like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: get it now, not to say that I'm going to
Speaker 2: be watching golf all the time. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a pretty it was it was it was dramatic.
Speaker 2: It was a roller coaster, right. You kept thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: this guy is he gonna blow it? Oh, yeah he is,
Speaker 2: and then sure enough puts himself back in position to
Speaker 2: h to be right there to get it done, and
Speaker 2: eventually that's that's exactly what he did. We haven't talked
Speaker 2: a whole lot about Spring the spring game from Friday
Speaker 2: because honestly, just being honest here, I'm not really sure
Speaker 2: what there is to take from it. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't I've always felt like it's almost it's impossible to
Speaker 2: really know, you know, did your team get better during
Speaker 2: spring football by watching the spring game? And those games
Speaker 2: aren't necessarily designed for fans to be able to figure
Speaker 2: that out, but as fanatics, right, because that's what fan
Speaker 2: is short for. You want to always know how good
Speaker 2: your team's gonna be. You want to always be assessing things.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think this team, for the most part,
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got a quarterback with experience, Miller Moss.
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't sound like there was anything from
Speaker 2: from Friday that would make anybody not confident that he's
Speaker 2: going to be able to do what Jeff brom needs
Speaker 2: to do this year. You've got two running backs that
Speaker 2: are two of the best in the country. And that's
Speaker 2: not exaggeration, that's not hyperbole. I mean, I think Isaac
Speaker 2: Brown would certainly get more praise nationally than Duke Watson.
Speaker 2: But let's be real, Duke Watson was also really, really,
Speaker 2: really good last year. I mean, Isaac Brown was the
Speaker 2: Freshman of the Year in the ACC was a Freshman
Speaker 2: All American, and Duke Watson in the end because he
Speaker 2: ended up getting so many carries towards you know, down
Speaker 2: I mean really just became those two guys. Not to
Speaker 2: say there weren't other running backs that contributed and help
Speaker 2: with the offense, but Duke Watson, because his role increased
Speaker 2: so much down the stretch, he ended up getting enough
Speaker 2: carries to where he did qualify for like the running
Speaker 2: back statistics, right, you got to get so many carries
Speaker 2: in order for your yards per carry to count. Well.
Speaker 2: His did and he led the country. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: that's how good he was. So I still think this
Speaker 2: louisvill football team, you know, after the spring game, we
Speaker 2: should still feel justified that going into year three, Jeff
Speaker 2: Brohm should should have a team that can compete towards
Speaker 2: the top of the ACC. Now, well that happened. We'll
Speaker 2: have to wait and see. But from a personnel standpoint,
Speaker 2: I think Jeff has done a good job since he
Speaker 2: got here. It really just understanding, Look, this is it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have guys in and out all the time
Speaker 2: because of the portal. You're gonna also have to make
Speaker 2: sure you've got money to pay these players, and any
Speaker 2: belly aching about it, any resistance to this change can
Speaker 2: only be a setback, can only hurt you. So don't
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even really call it embracing it. I think
Speaker 2: brom is just such a like this is so much
Speaker 2: his world right, Like not to say he doesn't have
Speaker 2: any other interest, although he has said many times like
Speaker 2: you know which see is what you get if I'm
Speaker 2: not if I'm not coaching football, I'm probably watching football
Speaker 2: or watching other sports. Like he doesn't just go to
Speaker 2: all the Louisville games basketball games because he wants to
Speaker 2: be visible and he wants people to know that the
Speaker 2: louisvill football the louisvill football coach is supporting Pat Kelsey.
Speaker 2: He's there because that's he loves it. He'd be there
Speaker 2: if he wasn't the Louisville football coach probably unless you know,
Speaker 2: he was coaching elsewhere, which, to be honest, he still
Speaker 2: would come back to other He would still come back
Speaker 2: to Louisville basketball games occasionally when he wasn't our coach,
Speaker 2: and it would be kind of weird, like wait a second,
Speaker 2: like I get while you're here. I love the year here,
Speaker 2: we love you Jeff, but this is unusual. Well, you
Speaker 2: know that's the reason why he's back here, and he
Speaker 2: left a big ten job to come home because it's home.
Speaker 2: Louisville can give something Jeff Brohm could not get anywhere
Speaker 2: else as far as what this job is to him,
Speaker 2: what it means to him. And you know, Jeff gives
Speaker 2: us something that we couldn't get if we had unlimited money.
Speaker 2: Somebody who's going to understand and quite literally have a
Speaker 2: give a damn. That's at a level for this program
Speaker 2: that not sure anybody else could match. So again I
Speaker 2: would say, right now, I don't want to act like
Speaker 2: this is a huge deal, because again I think there
Speaker 2: aren't going to be that many transfers in football over
Speaker 2: the years, that'll be deal breakers for you, right, Like
Speaker 2: I think Louisville is a program that clearly is not
Speaker 2: in the top tier of the sport of college football.
Speaker 2: But you know, if you had a player that you
Speaker 2: knew and maybe this has already happened and it just
Speaker 2: wasn't it wasn't publicly out there for everybody to know.
Speaker 2: But like Isaac Brown, that was one of the He's
Speaker 2: one of the best freshmen we've had around here in
Speaker 2: a long time. You would imagine that if Isaac Brown
Speaker 2: was to hit the market, he could probably get a
Speaker 2: lot of money anywhere. So when you have players like that, again,
Speaker 2: maybe there are there are clearly some programs that'll be
Speaker 2: able to outbid you. But if you really I mean,
Speaker 2: Louisville will do anything they can, and I think in
Speaker 2: every sport in order to not let money be the
Speaker 2: reason why they lost somebody. Now, again, you can't get
Speaker 2: in a bidding war and expect to beat everybody, but
Speaker 2: if you prioritize somebody that you know will be getting
Speaker 2: a ton of money if they did try to test
Speaker 2: the market, I think Louisville will do. We'll always do
Speaker 2: whatever they can and make it work, and I think
Speaker 2: more often than not they will be able to retain players.
Speaker 2: But again, you're gonna lose some guys just because you know,
Speaker 2: it's not just about the money. So I say all
Speaker 2: that to say there's two guys in the portal that
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think it's a great thing that they are,
Speaker 2: you know, in the portal. The news today was Jojo
Speaker 2: Stone has hit the portal. I guess he is. I
Speaker 2: guess he's coming off his true freshman season. But I
Speaker 2: think he was able to get a red shirt because
Speaker 2: he didn't appear in as many games. And look, he's
Speaker 2: somebody that was highly regarded coming out of high school.
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of speed. He ended up picking Louisville,
Speaker 2: I believe, over LSU. But here's the reality. He could
Speaker 2: never really move up the depth chart. Now, again, he
Speaker 2: was only here for one season as a true freshman,
Speaker 2: but I suppose after spring he was still not somebody
Speaker 2: that really looked as if he was going to be
Speaker 2: super involved with in the offense. And because of that,
Speaker 2: he wants to transfer. I don't really think this is
Speaker 2: like that big of a deal, because if this kid
Speaker 2: could really really help US. I feel like he'd be
Speaker 2: getting a lot of big reps in spring and he
Speaker 2: would have played maybe a little bit more last year.
Speaker 2: I don't know. So, you know, losing a kid that's
Speaker 2: a highly regarded recruit out of high school mean, it's
Speaker 2: never something you like want to happen or you know,
Speaker 2: you hope for it. But again, like, I think this
Speaker 2: kid's probably moving on because it just hasn't worked out
Speaker 2: here for him, and it's probably not because you know
Speaker 2: of I mean, I don't want to call this kid
Speaker 2: a buzz because look, if he goes somewhere else and
Speaker 2: he becomes a great player, then you know, yeah, you'll
Speaker 2: feel like, man, wish that guy would have stuck around,
Speaker 2: But he gave it a year and didn't like where
Speaker 2: he was and he's deciding to leave. And that's just
Speaker 2: where we are now. The other transfer. So again, I
Speaker 2: don't think Jojo Stone leaving is like, oh, what are
Speaker 2: we going to do without this guy? But I do
Speaker 2: think the receiver position has turned into one that yeah,
Speaker 2: you got Colin Lacy back, and that's huge. I think
Speaker 2: Chris Bell I think it's safe to say that he
Speaker 2: did actually have a breakthrough type season last year. To
Speaker 2: where getting him back now as a senior will be
Speaker 2: will be huge. He can go make some plays for you,
Speaker 2: And they've got some other guys that I like. But
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like this is probably as unproven
Speaker 2: as Louisville as been at receiver outside of two guys
Speaker 2: in a long time. Now, maybe there's somebody that is
Speaker 2: on the roster that will make a big jump and
Speaker 2: be an all acc caliber guy. That's sure. You never know,
Speaker 2: and that stuff happens all the time. It's just hard
Speaker 2: to predict. But I would imagine they're going to be
Speaker 2: looking in the in the portal post spring to try to,
Speaker 2: you know, see if there's somebody out that they could
Speaker 2: come in and help. So again, I don't think stone
Speaker 2: leaving is oh goodness, we lost one of the best receivers,
Speaker 2: because you really don't know what you're what you're missing
Speaker 2: out on because he never got it. He never played,
Speaker 2: and again I think he probably didn't play a whole
Speaker 2: lot because he wasn't ready to contribute quite to the
Speaker 2: level of the other guys that did play were. But
Speaker 2: losing a receiver probably one of the positions that you know,
Speaker 2: you kind of you're already I think looking, okay, do
Speaker 2: we have enough? Now? This is just a hit, and
Speaker 2: this is one of those that sucks, but you know,
Speaker 2: you can recover from it. It's not the end of
Speaker 2: the world. But there's no scenario anybody would have wanted
Speaker 2: or expected Austin Collins to leave. He is somebody that
Speaker 2: I believe has started. I mean, I think he started
Speaker 2: a ton of games here. Yeah, so he's he's played
Speaker 2: both guard and center, and yeah, the last two seasons,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been a significant part of the offensive line.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it was expected, meaning like
Speaker 2: he knew he could go elsewhere and get more money,
Speaker 2: or if he had, you know, he had somebody reach
Speaker 2: out to his cut I'm not accusing anybody of doing
Speaker 2: anything wrong, because I think tampering happens at every level.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, are you gonna be stupid about it?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Are you gonna if you get caught tampering? You're just
Speaker 2: an idiot because you could easily tamper without actually breaking
Speaker 2: the rules by you know, just reaching out to a
Speaker 2: coach that coached these players in high school and letting
Speaker 2: them know that they should pass along a message. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's I'm sure, it's much more. There's much more to
Speaker 2: it than just that. But like again, long story short,
Speaker 2: I don't know why Austin Collins is leaving, but clearly
Speaker 2: he is somebody that was a significant part of your
Speaker 2: old line the last two seasons, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: last year's offensive line did a phenomenal job. I mean
Speaker 2: those guys, I mean they don't get a ton of
Speaker 2: credit when things go well. But man, if the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: not getting clean pocket, he's got no time. If your
Speaker 2: running backs are getting blown up as soon as they
Speaker 2: get the ball, all the blame goes to the old line.
Speaker 2: But whenever they you know things are working well, you
Speaker 2: rarely think about them. Right when somebody breaks free for
Speaker 2: a sixty five yard touchdown like Isaac Brown did a
Speaker 2: few times last year, you're probably thinking, oh, wow, this
Speaker 2: freshman is spectacular. Look at the wheels on this guy.
Speaker 2: He's going to be a stud. And then maybe you
Speaker 2: know the next player, like, oh, I guess that was
Speaker 2: a pretty good job by the old line for creating,
Speaker 2: you know, creating that hole, creating that play. So again,
Speaker 2: not somebody that you want to lose, but again it's
Speaker 2: part of it now, So he'll be a grad transfer
Speaker 2: so he can he he doesn't have a window as
Speaker 2: far as like when he has to make a decision,
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he'll have some interest, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think when it comes to offensive linemen, this is
Speaker 2: just an observation from my end here as we're still
Speaker 2: relatively you know, in the early years of this new
Speaker 2: world free agency veteran offensive linemen they seem to be
Speaker 2: it's like a it's like a game of musical chair.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like maybe it's just me focusing
Speaker 2: more on Louisville than elsewhere, But I think if you're
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman and you've played a bunch of football
Speaker 2: and maybe you didn't even start fifty percent of the games,
Speaker 2: maybe it was close to forty or something like that,
Speaker 2: there's always room for more experienced guys in the trenches.
Speaker 2: And I just think, you know, Louisville can go out
Speaker 2: there and I don't know if they're gonna be able
Speaker 2: to get somebody that is as good and familiar with
Speaker 2: Louisville's offenses Austin College. I think it's gonna be tough
Speaker 2: to do, but there'll be guys available that are experienced,
Speaker 2: and you know, you'll they'll just have to find a
Speaker 2: way to make it work. But I do feel that
Speaker 2: the news of Jojo Stone and Austin Collins in the
Speaker 2: last you know, forty eight hours it was revealed that
Speaker 2: they're leaving Louisville, I feel like just the reaction that
Speaker 2: I've been able to see from Louisville fans on social media,
Speaker 2: it tells me that we are getting there as far
Speaker 2: as just understanding that there's going to be transfers that happen,
Speaker 2: and there's really nobody you can blame, right, I mean
Speaker 2: you can, but like when certain in the early stages
Speaker 2: of guys leaving in Louisville, Honestly, I'm just only speaking
Speaker 2: from the louis side of things. We've been pretty fortunate.
Speaker 2: I mean, can you think of somebody in any sport
Speaker 2: at U of L that left via the portal in
Speaker 2: the last few years where it was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: how did this happen? This is awful, We'll never recover.
Speaker 2: The only player that comes to mind for me that
Speaker 2: was like, damn, I can't believe we're gonna actually watch
Speaker 2: this player in a different uniform. But I remember it
Speaker 2: being kind of the light bulb for me where it
Speaker 2: went off, and I'm thinking, you know what, like this
Speaker 2: will be this example should be the example of there's
Speaker 2: really gonna be maybe not a lot of this, maybe
Speaker 2: it's not an every year thing, but there will be
Speaker 2: players that leave and it's just because they can and
Speaker 2: want to. Nobody did anything wrong. It's not because the
Speaker 2: players a cancer to the locker room. It's not because
Speaker 2: the check didn't clear with NIL. I mean, how many
Speaker 2: times have you ever just done something because you feel
Speaker 2: like it? How many times you've ever just done something
Speaker 2: because you want to do Well, That's what some of
Speaker 2: these college players I think are doing right now. Anybody
Speaker 2: have any clue as to which player I'm referring to
Speaker 2: that Like it seemed like, wow, like this is I
Speaker 2: guess the bad side of the portal. Right, we're not,
Speaker 2: you know, we've been pretty spoiled where Louisville really I
Speaker 2: keep going back to the Pat Kelsey thing. If the
Speaker 2: portal didn't exist in NIL didn't exist when Louisville hired
Speaker 2: Kenny Payne, he'd still be our coach because we'd be
Speaker 2: in that old world where he had four years to
Speaker 2: show us that he wasn't the worst coach of all time,
Speaker 2: having the portal and having the free agency where you
Speaker 2: can just re up and start all over year after year.
Speaker 2: That that, you know, that clearly changed a lot for Louisville,
Speaker 2: no doubt. But haileyvan Liz was the player I was
Speaker 2: referring to. So Hailey bean leth it wasn't about money.
Speaker 2: She had all the money she needed. She was donating
Speaker 2: a lot of money she was making here to the
Speaker 2: community because she was like that level of star. She'd
Speaker 2: gone to two Elite eights in a final four. Louisville
Speaker 2: was always a top ten year program when she was here.
Speaker 2: They had success, She had it all, but she just
Speaker 2: decided she wanted to do something else. And I remember thinking, like,
Speaker 2: there's nobody to blame, like anybody blaming Jeff Walls because
Speaker 2: Hayley van Lyff left, Like you're just not You're just
Speaker 2: being emotional, Like yeah, I'm sure he didn't want her
Speaker 2: to leave, but he clearly wasn't gonna be able to
Speaker 2: stop her or change her mind because it wasn't about money,
Speaker 2: wasn't about role. She had everything she needed. So she
Speaker 2: goes to LSU chasing a ring and you know, didn't
Speaker 2: get it, and honestly, she. I don't know if she
Speaker 2: she'll ever say that she regretted leaving Louisville. I doubt
Speaker 2: she will. And in fact, you know, she ended up
Speaker 2: moving on to a second team after leaving Louisville with
Speaker 2: TCU this year, and she ended up eliminating Louisville from
Speaker 2: the tournament. But there was no like I mean, I
Speaker 2: think coaching her at times was probably a little bit
Speaker 2: more than maybe Jeff intended. But I mean, it was
Speaker 2: so ridiculous whenever ESPN literally the announcers were tabbing the
Speaker 2: ECU Louislle game in the tournament, the Hailey vanlydth revenge game?
Speaker 2: What revenge for?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Too late?
Speaker 1: Too?
Speaker 2: Laite eight's a final four more money than any women's
Speaker 2: player has ever made around here? Like what do you like?
Speaker 2: Revenge for what? She just decided she wanted to leave.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't do anything wrong? What ill will? What revenge
Speaker 2: would she have on her mind? So anyways, we're getting there, folks.
Speaker 2: This is just where we are, although I would love
Speaker 2: to know if maybe there was, like maybe if because
Speaker 2: Austin Collins is a guy that clearly he's got his
Speaker 2: mind made up. He may he may even have like
Speaker 2: a non contact you know, status in his in his
Speaker 2: portal entry because he knows where he's going to go.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know when you have a
Speaker 2: guy that's played two different positions for you at the
Speaker 2: offensive line and has been a big factor in your
Speaker 2: success when the offensive line was working. I mean, I
Speaker 2: trust that this staff knows that and they were gonna
Speaker 2: be willing to do whatever they could to make it work.
Speaker 2: But that's what makes me feel like it wasn't about money.
Speaker 2: It was just him wanting to go elsewhere to finish
Speaker 2: his career with his grad season. All right, quick break
Speaker 2: will come back On the other side, talk a little basketball,
Speaker 2: And I mentioned this earlier. I've yet to go to
Speaker 2: a game, and I haven't seen anything other than just
Speaker 2: highlights on TikTok and Instagram and whatnot. But the Savannah
Speaker 2: Bananas their explosion as far as popularity dollar signs, I
Speaker 2: think there's so much in this world of sports entertainment
Speaker 2: that we could learn about what they're doing. And it
Speaker 2: sounds like, you know, it's just that's just all for show. Well,
Speaker 2: do you realize every bit of sports that we talk about,
Speaker 2: for the most part, on platforms like this or what
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Speaker 2: We haven't talked about it just yet, and I don't
Speaker 2: really have a whole lot to add, but Mark Pope
Speaker 2: did add another player of the weekend, that is Andrea Djealovich,
Speaker 2: who I guess a similar situation as Louisville was Sonny Frew,
Speaker 2: who I don't believe there was a whole lot of
Speaker 2: reporting out there about these two guys, Freu and Jelovich
Speaker 2: considering a move to America to play college basketball, but
Speaker 2: clearly they're successful as pros already. They're I think both
Speaker 2: of these guys are twenty years old, and that does
Speaker 2: make you a little less worried about their ability to
Speaker 2: impact the game right away, because one, they're older than
Speaker 2: most high school freshmen, and also they've played professional basketball
Speaker 2: for years now. But we'll get into it, because again
Speaker 2: I think this is the kind of I mean, among
Speaker 2: many things, this is just a new layer to college basketball.
Speaker 2: And as we've seen with other teams in the last
Speaker 2: couple of years, you can get really good players, you
Speaker 2: can get good talent. But yeah, I think right now,
Speaker 2: I would say with Louisville, when it comes to their
Speaker 2: roster again, there's still pieces to add back. Kentucky is
Speaker 2: hosting a transfer from sam Houston State, a guard by
Speaker 2: the last named Wilkerson, who he would be a really
Speaker 2: good addition for them. I don't know if he's leaning
Speaker 2: more Indiana or Kentucky, he's visited both, but he's somebody
Speaker 2: that is experienced can shoot it. To me, he's the
Speaker 2: kind of guard that Mark Pope I shouldn't say desperately needs,
Speaker 2: but you know, they really rely on shooting. And of
Speaker 2: all the newcomers that they've added, and I don't know
Speaker 2: enough about Jelovich to know if that's part of his game,
Speaker 2: but Wilkerson would give you somebody you're bringing in who Hey,
Speaker 2: he's showing up and one of the tools he's bringing
Speaker 2: is that he can flat out shoot the ball. And
Speaker 2: it's not to say that they got a bunch of
Speaker 2: guys who can't shoot, but for Pope and Kelsey to
Speaker 2: be honest, if they're putting together a team that is
Speaker 2: going to play the style they want to play, that
Speaker 2: team's going to have many guys that are that are
Speaker 2: that are flat out shooters. So again, I don't they'll
Speaker 2: be more players at it for both. But I feel
Speaker 2: like for Louisville case in Pryor's decision, if he announces
Speaker 2: he's coming back this week, I mean again, I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people, myself included, are under the impression
Speaker 2: that he is going to be back. But that would
Speaker 2: make it to where the rest of those spots you
Speaker 2: still need to add. I think a backup point guard,
Speaker 2: a veteran for Louisville, I would like to see another
Speaker 2: polished offensive post player, not somebody that you know you
Speaker 2: got to run things through, but just and there's no
Speaker 2: nice way to say it, but somebody who is not
Speaker 2: a James Scott, because James Scott there's value. He was
Speaker 2: a factor in this year's success, no doubt. He's really
Speaker 2: good at getting to his spot, which is above the
Speaker 2: rim and dunking it. Plays with a with a with
Speaker 2: high energy. He's got a got a great motor, but
Speaker 2: he's in you know, he's in no way an offensive
Speaker 2: threat to your opponent in any way, and I'm not
Speaker 2: really sure he's ever going to be. He could certainly improve.
Speaker 2: But to me, for Louisville, if they get prior back,
Speaker 2: I think you really try your best to find a
Speaker 2: veteran post player that can get give you some some
Speaker 2: production around the rim, and then of course another point guard.
Speaker 2: Not because I'm worried about Michail Brown, which by the way,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about him later, because it sounds like at
Speaker 2: every you know, the McDonald's game, whatever event he's been
Speaker 2: at over the weekend. I mean, he's continuing to get
Speaker 2: a lot of praise, which is exciting. So anyways, we'll
Speaker 2: talk some basketball coming up here a little bit later on.
Speaker 2: But the Savannah Bananas, now, Austin, I know you've done
Speaker 2: some work. In fact, you still do work with the
Speaker 2: Louisville Bats. They had the Savannah bannas the Savannah Bananas
Speaker 2: at Slugger Field last year, right, complete sellout, and I
Speaker 2: remember we were out of town when it went on.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I remember popping up on social media
Speaker 2: like Facebook, Twitter while we were on vacation, and like
Speaker 2: anytime I would open my phone and go to one
Speaker 2: of those apps, I would see people that I know begging, please,
Speaker 2: does anybody have any tickets? We'll pay top dollars, Like
Speaker 2: everybody wanted to see the show that is the Savannah Bananas,
Speaker 2: and it's I mean, it's like the Harlem Globe Trotters,
Speaker 2: but baseball correct. Is that the best way to describe it.
Speaker 2: That's how I'd say it. And I don't kneel. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Globe Trotters did, but I feel like
Speaker 2: right now the Savannah Bananas have more buzz and popularity
Speaker 2: than the Globe Trotter's ever had. I'm sure that's hyperbole
Speaker 2: because the Globe Trotters have been around forever, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure when it was a new thing, it was a
Speaker 2: big deal and it still is. I mean they still
Speaker 2: in fact, I think they weren't they hit the Yum
Speaker 2: Center not that long ago. Yeah, they were just here
Speaker 2: in March. Yeah. So I don't want to take a
Speaker 2: shot at them, but like, I guess that's the best
Speaker 2: way to describe what the Savannah Bannon the Savannah Bananas are.
Speaker 2: So they're selling out NFL stadiums, major League Baseball stadiums
Speaker 2: all across the country. People cannot get enough of watching
Speaker 2: this act that is you know, I mean, what would
Speaker 2: you how would you describe it? Like they're playing baseball,
Speaker 2: but they're also like dancing, there's choreography, like it's a show.
Speaker 2: It's a show. They keep score, right, Yeah they ever lost?
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have.
Speaker 1: They have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could still lose. So it's a real game.
Speaker 2: They just they're doing it. But throwing in the entertainment
Speaker 2: component with it, like who do they play against? The
Speaker 2: play against? So there is it the generals that the
Speaker 2: Globetrotters play against. You it's called the party animals. And
Speaker 2: is it the same team every time? I think, not
Speaker 2: meaning the same players, but like it's the same la. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's it's always party gotcha? And that makes total sense,
Speaker 2: especially that they're called the party Animals. So again it's
Speaker 2: it's been a story for a while now that they
Speaker 2: they they're booking the biggest stadiums this country has to
Speaker 2: offer and they're selling out with no trouble at all. Well,
Speaker 2: now they've become a television product because ESPN has signed
Speaker 2: a deal to have ten Savannah Bananas games on television
Speaker 2: this season. Wow, and these will be when they are
Speaker 2: in In fact, it starts. It starts later this month
Speaker 2: because they're gonna be at at Clemson's Memorial Stadium in
Speaker 2: South Carolina. That'll be on April twenty six. They're also
Speaker 2: going to be in Nashville, Charlotte, Washington, d C, Boston, Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: two games in Baltimore, They'll be in Denver, They're going
Speaker 2: to be at Guaranteed Great Field in Chicago, and I
Speaker 2: mean this is gonna be in Cincinnati too. I think
Speaker 2: this show, I mean they're gonna be everywhere. I'm just
Speaker 2: mentioning the games. They're gonna be on telepawon, Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: gonna be They're all over the place. But those are
Speaker 2: the ten games they're doing. The the they're gonna be
Speaker 2: on TV on ESPN, so in addition to the linear
Speaker 2: channels that ESPN has, all tim of these games are
Speaker 2: gonna be on ESPN Plus as well as Disney Plus.
Speaker 2: And they are gonna have the Sports Center hosts Randy
Speaker 2: Scott and Gary Struvsky. I think it's how you say
Speaker 2: that they're gonna be. Yeah, they're gonna be a part
Speaker 2: of it. And you know just what, I I'm not
Speaker 2: somebody that would ever like seek out the Savannah the
Speaker 2: Savannah Bananas. But I'm also not like against them. It's just,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not really a big baseball guy in general,
Speaker 2: but it'd be hard to ignore the amount of popularity
Speaker 2: they have right now and how it's been kind of
Speaker 2: not even really a slow build, but it's been it's
Speaker 2: been hot and heavy and isn't slowing down. And what
Speaker 2: this reminded me of is because they're gonna make like
Speaker 2: they make a ton of money right now. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know where you would compare their money, because again,
Speaker 2: it's a different They're not they're not playing seventeen game
Speaker 2: NFL season. They're not playing you know, however many games
Speaker 2: baseball teams play. But they have such popularity to where
Speaker 2: they are a bigger attraction on television for ESPN than
Speaker 2: probably like real sports, that you would blow your mind
Speaker 2: right like they and think we all know that it's
Speaker 2: kind of for show. And yeah, as you mentioned Austin,
Speaker 2: they can lose, but like, you're not watching to seek
Speaker 2: great competition, right, You're watching to be entertained exactly right.
Speaker 2: More often than not, when you're watching the NFL, you
Speaker 2: have rooting interest because it's your team or you bet
Speaker 2: on a game or you just you know, you find
Speaker 2: yourself doing what most humans do, right, You'll pull for
Speaker 2: an underdog because it's just human nature. So because of that,
Speaker 2: and because of how long we've all like we're sickos
Speaker 2: about Louisville basketball, Louisll football around here, Kentucky basketball, Kentucky football,
Speaker 2: and it's you know, it's something that we take probably
Speaker 2: way too serious, right, Like winning and losing is something
Speaker 2: that really impacts us around here because we care so much.
Speaker 2: And it's been that way as long as we remember.
Speaker 2: Our parents were like that, maybe your grandparents were like that.
Speaker 2: So because it's such a serious thing, it's really a
Speaker 2: big part of our culture. I think at times we
Speaker 2: forget that what that is for us at its core
Speaker 2: is entertainment. Right, Like you don't think, like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna watch this Louisville basketball game tonight because I'm going
Speaker 2: to be entertained, as if like I'm going to the
Speaker 2: movies or as if I'm watching the Savannah Bananas. It's
Speaker 2: a different type of entertainment for you. But at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's entertainment. And if Louisville and
Speaker 2: Kentucky or whatever, you know, Indiana, whoever you're a fan of,
Speaker 2: if they put the worst product on the floor in
Speaker 2: court for years to come because they just played a
Speaker 2: boring style. Let's just say, instead of hiring Mark Pope
Speaker 2: and Pat Kelsey who want to run and shoot threes,
Speaker 2: we hired a couple of Tony Bennett's around here. You
Speaker 2: know what we would do, We'd still watch because our
Speaker 2: entertainment level. We're not there because it needs to be
Speaker 2: a good game. We're there because we just are entertainment
Speaker 2: is that we're obsessed and it's like our escape from
Speaker 2: life that we get lost and we get absorbed in
Speaker 2: our team. So stick with me, because what I'm getting
Speaker 2: at is like when like ESPN's people who make these
Speaker 2: decisions about what gets on television or what act they're
Speaker 2: going to bring in to book like a venue, like
Speaker 2: to use their venue, Like if you right now, like
Speaker 2: if you're a major league baseball club and it's the
Speaker 2: off season, you know, hey away for us to bring
Speaker 2: in a lot of like I guarantee you the Savannah
Speaker 2: Banas being at Slugger Field was probably a big payday
Speaker 2: for the Bats. I don't know what the BREAKDNE is,
Speaker 2: but they don't get crowds like that ever for anything.
Speaker 2: So you know, people who make decisions about who to
Speaker 2: bring into their venue or what to put on television,
Speaker 2: like you know ESPN's doing here with the Savannah Banas.
Speaker 2: They know there's a built in fan base core that's
Speaker 2: always going to be there, but you're always trying to
Speaker 2: bring in others and what really And I saw these
Speaker 2: two stories kind of back to back, so the Spanana Bannon,
Speaker 2: I mean, and there was also a sixty minutes piece
Speaker 2: following the Masters last night just about how this all
Speaker 2: came together and how booming things are right now for
Speaker 2: those that you know, put this whole thing together. So
Speaker 2: right after I saw this, you know, it wasn't new information.
Speaker 2: I knew that the van and Bananas were on fire
Speaker 2: and everybody loves them and they're really popular. But then
Speaker 2: right after that, I'm scrolling through and I see a
Speaker 2: story about Page Bukers. So Paige Bukers, she is probably
Speaker 2: going to be the first pick and this year's in
Speaker 2: a WNBA draft. Had a phenomenal career at Yukon, just
Speaker 2: won a national championship. The story that came out over
Speaker 2: the weekend is that she had signed a deal to
Speaker 2: play in Unrivaled, which is the three on three league
Speaker 2: that has women's basketball players, and it's already a better
Speaker 2: product than the WNBA is. So she's going to make
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty I'm sorry, I don't know what
Speaker 2: the entire contract is. I don't have it in front
Speaker 2: of me, but this is what front office sports reporter
Speaker 2: that of course got a lot of attention. Paige Bukers
Speaker 2: is set to make more than three hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars in her first sea with Unrivaled. That's more
Speaker 2: than her entire first WNBA contract will pay her over
Speaker 2: four years. So follow me and I'll tell you where
Speaker 2: I'm going. This is not anybody's fault. It's just an
Speaker 2: observation that I feel like nobody else is either making
Speaker 2: or they're scared to discuss it because I don't want
Speaker 2: to offend people. The fact that she's going to make
Speaker 2: that much money in one season and she can't get
Speaker 2: all of that in a four year stretch in the
Speaker 2: WNBA is because your value, and I don't mean you
Speaker 2: as a player, the value of your league, your product,
Speaker 2: is based on how entertaining it is and how many
Speaker 2: people are going to watch it. If we had the
Speaker 2: best basketball players of all time playing in a five
Speaker 2: on five game but nobody watched it, it would be
Speaker 2: worth nothing. There's no value there, right, So this veanana bananas,
Speaker 2: it's not even real. I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: mean I shouldn't say that as somebody who doesn't watch it,
Speaker 2: but like it's there, you're, they're they're they're there just
Speaker 2: to entertain. It's really not about true competition. But you
Speaker 2: know what people watch, and there's value because a ton
Speaker 2: of people are watching. How many times have we had
Speaker 2: a conversation about Jake Paul's fights being fake? I don't
Speaker 2: really know for sure just how fake they are. Clearly
Speaker 2: he's a real boxer and he trains and whatnot. But
Speaker 2: you know what, it's an entertainment thing. And even if
Speaker 2: you know that there's maybe a chance that Mike Tyson's
Speaker 2: in on it because he needs that last paycheck, because
Speaker 2: his career is turned into what it's turned into. You're
Speaker 2: gonna watch and that matters. That's the value there. So
Speaker 2: the WNBA, like you've got a lot of people claiming
Speaker 2: this is surd. The WNBA has to change this. There
Speaker 2: can simply not be the president that she can go
Speaker 2: play in this three on three league that's not even
Speaker 2: real nobody it is real competition. It's a three on
Speaker 2: three league, and it's more entertaining. They're catering. They're trying
Speaker 2: to make it an entertaining thing for the to make
Speaker 2: the product something that people would want to either watch
Speaker 2: on television or buy tickets and go see the WNBA.
Speaker 2: You know, I have no issue with the WNBA. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't follow it, I don't care much about
Speaker 2: I don't care about it. I'm not anti WNBA. But
Speaker 2: the whole like, well, they just got to do this
Speaker 2: to make the players deserve more money. Where's the money
Speaker 2: coming from? Like just showing up and playing five on
Speaker 2: five basketball. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of value there,
Speaker 2: So where's the money going to come from? So I'm
Speaker 2: not bringing this up to just pick on the WNBA,
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of times when we are,
Speaker 2: you know, the sick of fans that are just so
Speaker 2: absorbed with it, and it's really a part of our culture.
Speaker 2: We don't think about we're watching our team play tonight
Speaker 2: because we need the entertainment in a sick way. We'd
Speaker 2: watch it like it's part of our job, right, This
Speaker 2: is all I know, this is what I do. I'm
Speaker 2: a Lowell fan, I'm a Kentucky fan. But when there's
Speaker 2: enough of you, then there's value because people watch. You know,
Speaker 2: people are going to want to buy to you know,
Speaker 2: people are going to pay tickets or pay money for
Speaker 2: tickets to go see it. And there's going to be
Speaker 2: value because a lot of people watch it. Therefore it
Speaker 2: can be on television and they can monetize it. So
Speaker 2: I just the Savannah bananas have more popularity right now
Speaker 2: than like seemingly anything in sports outside the NFL. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's maybe that's an exaggeration, but like probably not far
Speaker 2: from it. So the fact that it's not real in
Speaker 2: any way compared to what we obsess over with college basketball,
Speaker 2: college football, the NFL, that kind of stuff, it's still,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, entertainment. And I just
Speaker 2: for those that just say, okay, well they should pay
Speaker 2: W and B players more money, it's not because you know,
Speaker 2: they're not paying them more money because they're women. It's
Speaker 2: not because you know they're holding out and taking all
Speaker 2: the money for themselves. It's not entertaining enough to have
Speaker 2: enough value to where it can be a lucrative thing.
Speaker 2: That's just the reality. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.
Speaker 2: And yet you've got and again it's not like, hey,
Speaker 2: look how I know it sounds bad, especially for those
Speaker 2: that may be a little bit sensitive to somebody, you know,
Speaker 2: being a you know, you know what do you call
Speaker 2: it a basically a pig right anti feminism or whatever
Speaker 2: there's a word for it. I'm spending my wials on
Speaker 2: because yeah, but it's not I don't I don't want.
Speaker 2: I don't want to come off that way, and I'm
Speaker 2: trying not to. But that's really what it comes down to.
Speaker 2: Like it's entertainment and it's not personal. Nobody choose, no,
Speaker 2: I mean, can you choose what is entertaining to you?
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can. You can choose what
Speaker 2: you try to find entertainment out of. But like, people
Speaker 2: are entertained by what they're entertained by. And you could
Speaker 2: be the biggest advocate in the world. There could be
Speaker 2: a billion advocates for women's professional basketball meeting the WNBA,
Speaker 2: but not enough people feel the same way clearly, or
Speaker 2: it would be a bigger value. And you know, I
Speaker 2: guess I probably should have emphasized more that this is
Speaker 2: really a testament to what the Savannah Bananas have done
Speaker 2: and created, But it just reminded me of something I
Speaker 2: rarely hear anybody talk about that at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, you can have like, oh, we got we've
Speaker 2: got the best play. If people aren't entertained enough to
Speaker 2: watch at a really, really, really high level, where's money
Speaker 2: coming from? I mean, I just think that if in fact,
Speaker 2: this Unrivaled League becomes the new version of professional bas
Speaker 2: basketball for women, what's the issue with that? It still
Speaker 2: it gives them a platform, it gives them a chance
Speaker 2: to make more money than they're making in the WNBA,
Speaker 2: And clearly it's more entertaining than what you're getting in
Speaker 2: the WNBA, and that's based off of ratings and viewership.
Speaker 2: But to see Buckers get the big deal from Unrivaled
Speaker 2: and everybody bringing up like how little she'll make in
Speaker 2: the WNBA, that's really nobody's fault. It's just the reality
Speaker 2: of it. And there are there are some people that
Speaker 2: don't live like in reality. They live in their own world,
Speaker 2: and that's a real sickness that apparently is becoming worse
Speaker 2: by the day. In society, but people can, Like there's
Speaker 2: a lot of things in sports, specifically women's sports that
Speaker 2: I think people just say is that they're going to
Speaker 2: speak it into They're going to speak it into existence
Speaker 2: without realizing. No, no, like that's not true at all.
Speaker 2: Anybody who didn't, anybody who thinks that this is not
Speaker 2: take it off. Yeah, I'm living in reality. You're not
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Speaker 2: All right, So this is some news that came out
Speaker 2: I believe earlier this morning. Maybe it was over the
Speaker 2: weekend and I missed it, but longtime Louisville women's basketball
Speaker 2: assistant Stephanie Norman is leaving Jeff Wall's staff. Been here
Speaker 2: for a long time and she's decided to take a
Speaker 2: similar position and assistant coaches spot at Arizona State, which
Speaker 2: is her alma mater. So yeah, she's been here for
Speaker 2: eighteen seasons and been a big part in Louisville women's
Speaker 2: basketball becoming one of the better programs in the sport. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the last couple of years have not been super successful,
Speaker 2: but really I think that's a testament to how spoiled
Speaker 2: we were because Jeff Walls has I mean again, I
Speaker 2: know I say this all the time when we have
Speaker 2: conversations about the programs over at uf L on Floyd Street,
Speaker 2: and I think Jeff Walls, to me, is the best
Speaker 2: example of somebody that maybe not even maybe it's not
Speaker 2: even example, but to me, he has quite literally transformed
Speaker 2: a program at the school like nobody else has. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't mean to be disrespectful to those that were
Speaker 2: a part of the women's basketball program prior to Jeff Walls,
Speaker 2: but the program really had no existence quite like what
Speaker 2: it's been since since Jeff arrived roughly twenty years ago,
Speaker 2: and Stephanie Norman being by his side throughout those eighteen
Speaker 2: years that she was there, she was a big factor.
Speaker 2: So she'll be joining the new staff of Molly Miller,
Speaker 2: who just got the head coaching job. And she not
Speaker 2: only mean she only went there, she played there. Norman
Speaker 2: did and she actually interviewed for the job back in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two when it was opened. So congrats to
Speaker 2: her on a great run. And it sounds like Jeff
Speaker 2: is going to be looking to add to his staff,
Speaker 2: all right, So here's what we've got coming up for you.
Speaker 2: In the five o'clock hour, we'll talk a little more
Speaker 2: about yesterday's masters. Also an early look at, at least
Speaker 2: as of now, the rosters for both these teams here
Speaker 2: locally Louisville and Kentucky. I think there's some obvious observations
Speaker 2: about both sides as far as you know, what they've
Speaker 2: been able to do, so we can certainly get into that.
Speaker 2: And we haven't talked a whole lot about the Nico situation.
Speaker 2: I say Nico because I don't know how to say
Speaker 2: his last name, at least not confidently. But the Tennessee quarterback,
Speaker 2: who I feel like this is the first right, a
Speaker 2: guy who got a bunch of money to go to
Speaker 2: ut was still being paid, they were having success, he
Speaker 2: wanted more money, and then the program just decided to
Speaker 2: cut ties with him because apparently he was holding out,
Speaker 2: didn't show up to team meetings and whatnot. And you know,
Speaker 2: I think Tennessee made the right decision. And I get
Speaker 2: why it's like a turn off for those of you
Speaker 2: that still want to live in that world. But this
Speaker 2: is not pro sports, but it is pro sports, but
Speaker 2: without regulation, without rules, without you know, any I mean,
Speaker 2: it's an absolute for all. And that's how something like
Speaker 2: that happens. You could pay players and they can be
Speaker 2: you know, on contract, and they can make a lot
Speaker 2: of money, but because the NCAA still refuses to acknowledge
Speaker 2: that these are you know, basically employees, that's how you
Speaker 2: know you even have a guy holding out to try
Speaker 2: to see what kind of money he can get, because
Speaker 2: here's the thing, he'll probably get it elsewhere. He's I
Speaker 2: don't think he's worth it, but somebody will pay him
Speaker 2: that right, or somebody will find a way to get
Speaker 2: him what he wants, because that's how much people want
Speaker 2: to win when it comes to college football. And then
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is going to be interesting
Speaker 2: enough for a radio audience, but I may get to it.
Speaker 2: Trulli Donovan. I think we all know who that is, right.
Speaker 2: He's this anonymous guy who covers college hoops, recruiting and stories.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's about his for the most part.
Speaker 2: He's been as good as anybody at covering college basketball
Speaker 2: for the last few years, but he hides who he is,
Speaker 2: which you know he has every right to do. He's
Speaker 2: still successful. He's got a bunch of people paying a
Speaker 2: monthly subscription to his discord where they get inside scoop
Speaker 2: and more often than not he's right. But he went
Speaker 2: against BBN and I guess kind of mocked them for
Speaker 2: questioning his report on a player, and it sounds like
Speaker 2: he may have gotten. He may have gotten. They call
Speaker 2: it doxed, Is that right, Austin? Like if if somebody
Speaker 2: puts your identity out there and nobody knows that, that's
Speaker 2: getting dockxed. Right, So apparently Trilli Donovan got dockxed, And
Speaker 2: you know I thought I saw that. Yeah, we'll get
Speaker 2: into it because I I think his outward like denial
Speaker 2: of like wow, they think that's me makes me think, Okay,
Speaker 2: I think you're acting like that because you know they
Speaker 2: did get you. But like he should just come out
Speaker 2: and say who he is, right, Like, what would be
Speaker 2: the harm there? I don't think he's hiding like that
Speaker 2: he's a criminal or something. But anyways, we'll get into
Speaker 2: that in a lot more. We'll finish strong here in
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