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<v Speaker 1>Teenage years for a lot of us, are filled with

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<v Speaker 1>angst and rebellion. Thankfully, it's usually a stage of our

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<v Speaker 1>life that we grow out of as we begin to

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<v Speaker 1>take a closer look at our future. For sixteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Adrian Reynolds, that was the exact stage of life

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<v Speaker 1>that she was in. She was working on bettering herself

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<v Speaker 1>and her future. That is, until her future was taken

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<v Speaker 1>away by someone whose idea of bettering their own life

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<v Speaker 1>meant taking someone else's. My name's Ben and I'm Nicole.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're listening to Wicked and Grim, a true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Warning the following podcasts and material in for a mature audience.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised. Okay, that was smooth. How I

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<v Speaker 1>did that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I didn't get the memo. I also have

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<v Speaker 2>one that was not smooth.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it going, Keep going there, you go. Wow, your

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<v Speaker 1>delicate fingers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pouring an over ice because it's warm we have Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just say something? Can I just well, this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't really a show though, This is just me talking

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<v Speaker 2>about alcohol. Okay, but we are brewery, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about. One of our breweries, Trench, they have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Peach iced tea.

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<v Speaker 2>That is literally so good next level. So if you're local,

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking go buy a case.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably already know about it if they're local, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure our entire city is obsessed with oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Just obsessed like it. It puts some twisted teata like shame.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wholeheartedly, whole hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that anything's wrong with twisted tea. We do drink

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<v Speaker 2>that as well, but this is just like, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's fantastic. I'm kind of jealous. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a trench beer, but I'm kind of jealous

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not drinking the iced tea.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is very dangerous though, because it literally is

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm just drinking a peach iced tea, like non alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very peachy too, but like not too sweet either,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>While we're recording this episode, we are in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of a thunderstorm right now. The rain has currently ceased,

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<v Speaker 1>but being in a tiny home with a tin roof,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a high chance and a high probability that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna hear some rain pick up during this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right now might just be a good time, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling it could come back. It might,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is also very good that we're getting rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, tackle those wildfires a little bit. Yeah, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good thing. Let's just hope that lightning and

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<v Speaker 1>thunder fuck off just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, can stay well for the next few days. I

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<v Speaker 2>have photo shoots that I needed to stop for soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what else can stay? What are fantastic patrons? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Victoria Bond be our only patrons sign up

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<v Speaker 1>last week. She joined the big list of patrons getting

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<v Speaker 1>all that awesome exclusive content. So thank you Victoria for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the awesome exclusive content right now is chickens pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much just chickens, just kidding. We post a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff on there, but right now it's our chickens are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of all consuming, so.

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<v Speaker 1>They are all consuming, but they're finally getting settled in

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<v Speaker 1>the coops. All built, almost all built, The run's all done,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's kind of like just moving on with

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<v Speaker 1>life now with chickens. Yeah, you're gonna overfill that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was I like, that was epic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't pick it up now, you got to?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I could, Okay, Okay, are you gonna spill? Don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. Don't do it. Oh that was so close.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done though, there we go. She almost just spilt

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<v Speaker 1>all over her laugh I was confidence is key.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what do you got in store for us today?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even asked you what you've been working on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is a requested case that I pulled off

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<v Speaker 1>our discord server. This is the case of Adrian lay Reynolds.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, Okay, I have no idea what this is about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're about to find all about it. Find out

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<v Speaker 1>all about it. There you go. That that sentence made sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That sentence was a lot of nonsense. But it's about

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<v Speaker 1>to make sense. How's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of recovered, kind of recovered. But I'll deal

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<v Speaker 1>with that now. I'll take it. Thank you. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for it?

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<v Speaker 2>I am ready for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay. Well. Adrian lay Reynolds was born on September

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth in nineteen eighty eight. She was born to a

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<v Speaker 1>single mother in El Dorado, Arkansas. Now, unfortunately, her mother

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<v Speaker 1>was not in a position to keep a child, so

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<v Speaker 1>she was put up for adoption. Okay, so she was

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<v Speaker 1>adopted by a man named Tony Reynolds. So, as Adrian

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<v Speaker 1>entered her teenage years, her father would eventually remarry and

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<v Speaker 1>move to East Moloyne, Illinois, while she continued to live

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<v Speaker 1>with her mother in Texas. So as I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>eluded with the whole angsty rebellion teenage phase and the

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<v Speaker 1>intro education became a bit of a struggle for Adrian.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I can relate to that because that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of me and my teenage years. Education was not my forte.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not want to study, did not want to

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<v Speaker 1>hunt her down do my things. There was other things

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<v Speaker 1>that way rather be doing. And so by the age

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<v Speaker 1>of her being sixteen, she was kind of not doing

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<v Speaker 1>so well. She actually didn't earn a single high school

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<v Speaker 1>credit towards her diploma, so rather than focusing on her study,

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<v Speaker 1>she would find solace and hanging out with friends, smoking weed,

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<v Speaker 1>harboring a deep dislike for school pretty much just all around.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a pretty common probably argument in households

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<v Speaker 2>with teenagers.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey what exactly, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Just trying to get kids to like focus on their schooling.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's kind of it's an interesting age, really,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's so many other things you could be doing

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't really necessarily see the importance of like

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<v Speaker 2>high school at that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet, and nowadays there's so many distractions, video game, cell phones,

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<v Speaker 1>social media, you name it. This worrisome situation, though, led

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<v Speaker 1>her mother, who she was living with at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that a change was necessary to help Adrian

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<v Speaker 1>find a better path in life and kind of better herself. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the decision was made to send her to live

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<v Speaker 1>with her adoptive father and stepmother, which was Tony who

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<v Speaker 1>of course was the original individual to adopt her, and

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<v Speaker 1>Joan Reynolds in Illinois. So despite not being this perfect angel,

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<v Speaker 1>not being the perfect student in school, Adrian's presence was

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<v Speaker 1>cherished by her father and stepmother, who saw her as

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<v Speaker 1>a spirited and vibrant young woman. Beyond her tough exterior,

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<v Speaker 1>she was known for her sweetness, her care for others,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had a remarkable talent as.

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<v Speaker 2>Singing Okay, that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I'm super jealous of. I love to sing, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm horrible at it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is one thing I think if you could change

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<v Speaker 2>about yourself, it would be to have that talent Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would love to be able to sing, But you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't be good at everything, Ben, I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not angry. You're pretty much good at everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would say that, but thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. So Adrian's dream, of course, was to

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<v Speaker 1>become a singer, but the pursuit of such aspirations often

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<v Speaker 1>seems out of reach for many people, especially at that age.

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<v Speaker 1>Like singing or being a musician or whatever is generally

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<v Speaker 1>like the top of stardom. There's so much competition out there,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing, right, So, in the fall of two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and five, Adrian embarked on a new journey by

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<v Speaker 1>enrolling in the Blackhawks College Outreach program with the goal

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<v Speaker 1>of obtaining her ged So this achievement would serve as

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<v Speaker 1>a stepping stone towards fulfilling her ultimate des desire of

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<v Speaker 1>joining the United States Marine Corps. Okay, so this was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of her new goal. Instead, she kind of realized

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<v Speaker 1>that the chances of becoming a singer were relatively slim.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sit here and say you should

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<v Speaker 1>never follow your dreams, but I kind of understand what

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<v Speaker 1>she's saying, you know, so, yeah, this was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>her next best thing. I'm going to go finish off

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<v Speaker 1>my education and I'm going to join the Marines. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good for her, Yeah, definitely. So she settled in Illinois

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<v Speaker 1>with her father, like I said, and Adrian was determined

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<v Speaker 1>to turn her life around and strive for a brighter

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<v Speaker 1>and better future for herself. This was just a new

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<v Speaker 1>chapter in her life for a fresh start. She was

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<v Speaker 1>determined to build this meaningful future. Her dedication to joining

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<v Speaker 1>the Marines after graduation was fueled by her determination to

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<v Speaker 1>excel now at her studies. As she attended college, Adrian

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<v Speaker 1>finally experienced true friendship when she began attending here. So

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<v Speaker 1>she was not only just beginning to find friendship, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was beginning to find that she was relatively popular,

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<v Speaker 1>something that she had yearned for but never really found. So,

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<v Speaker 1>alongside her other qualities, Adrian proudly identified as a devoted

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<v Speaker 1>quote juggalo. Do you know what that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? My goodness, I've definitely heard of that term, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can't recall.

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<v Speaker 1>So a juggalo is someone who is a passionate follower

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<v Speaker 1>of the rap group insane clown posse. Oh, shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, I have no ight, I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I was thinking someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably thinking jigalow, which is a male sex worker. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a term for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, okay, So juggalo.

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<v Speaker 1>Juggalo is basically a follower of this rap group insane

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<v Speaker 1>clown Posse. Oh okay, yeah, so I actually I used

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to some of their tunes back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I was never a Juggalo, mind you, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>their tunes are actually pretty pretty entertaining. They're usually very

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<v Speaker 1>dark and morbid and contained murder and that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but also like very circus like, and they're very clown ish.

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<v Speaker 1>They got like clown makeup on black and white paint

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<v Speaker 1>and all this sort of stuff. So she was a

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<v Speaker 1>jugg a very devout follower of this fan of this group.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like a self devoted term?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay. Well, the band, I think, calls their fans

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<v Speaker 1>their Juggalos and take on that, so then.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of decide, like you're that that hardcore of

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<v Speaker 2>a fan, you're going to adopt that name exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So during her time at this alternative college, Adrian cross

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<v Speaker 1>paths with two fellow classmates Sarah and Colb and Corey

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory in two thousand and five. So, although Sarah and

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<v Speaker 1>Corey shared a close bond, their relationship was platonic, despite

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<v Speaker 1>a history between them, which I'll touch on a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later. As a fellow Juggalo, Corey immediately connected with

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian and he introduced her to Sarah, who was also

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<v Speaker 1>a Juggalo. Okay, so they quickly became absolutely best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>The trio spent a lot of time together, both within

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<v Speaker 1>school premises and off school premises in their own spare time.

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<v Speaker 2>Was this can I just ask one very side not

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<v Speaker 2>quick question, Yes, was this band like really popular?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Relatively speaking?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, I just think this is I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>were relatively quite well known, okay, Like I think Eminem

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<v Speaker 1>like like yeah, they were up there, Okay, but I

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<v Speaker 1>actually do like a lot for their community. They donate

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's a little fun fact if anyone needed

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty third, nineteen eighty eight. Sarah was a very

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<v Speaker 1>her hair, multiple face piercings, and a punky goth appearance

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<v Speaker 1>to go along with her her Juggalo identity. So, like Adrian,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah faced challenges in school, which eventually had led her

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, Corey Gregory was born on November two,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty seven. He was described as a shy and

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<v Speaker 1>that aspect of the relationship had now ended. Sarah had

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<v Speaker 1>this change, Corey and Sarah remained inseparable, often skipping class

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy music, share moments while smoking weed together, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just going off having fun, being really good, tight friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's impressive, because I feel like that would be

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<v Speaker 2>a bit hard to do after you were like romantically involved.

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<v Speaker 1>bit here, but I might as well talk about it now. Corey,

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<v Speaker 1>something to spark up again, right, I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 1>still good friends, but he also wanted more, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And as I kind of already mentioned, Sarah was quite popular,

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<v Speaker 1>so she really liked the attention. So it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a dynamic where they're friends, but hey, he wants

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's really tough, yeah for him mostly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. Yeah, So the dynamic between those two did

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<v Speaker 1>take a little bit of a new turn when Adrian would,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sarah's a tension actually would shift from Corey giving

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<v Speaker 1>to now Adrian, which kind of triggered a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of like a bit of jealousy between some of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyways, Sarah was unapologetic about her feelings because she

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<v Speaker 1>candid exchange in letters discussing Sarah's bisexuality and Adrian's curiosities

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<v Speaker 1>about her own bisexual identity. So despite the potential and

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<v Speaker 1>She was in a relationship Okay, So meanwhile, Adrian would

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<v Speaker 1>begin dating other boys as well, but her growing closeness

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah found rather unsettling. Sarah was quite accustomed to being

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<v Speaker 2>But she likes that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so she was adorned by good looking boys and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, now she noticed some of them were showing

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<v Speaker 1>the interest in Adrian instead. Uh oh yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put this whole like jealousy mix back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth in there again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes. Yeah, I'm like that can't be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's kind of this quasi love triangle esque

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's going on because Corey wants Sarah. Sarah used

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<v Speaker 1>to date Corey, and Sarah likes the attention from Corey,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sarah and Adrian kind of like each other. But

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's got a boyfriend, and so Adrian's now dating other people,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sarah is not liking the attention that Adrian is getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I actually followed that, I'm a little impressed with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it gets even one step to shit, okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's anger and jealousy began to intensify in unexpected turnative

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<v Speaker 1>events when Adrian even asked Corey out on a date.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go. Yeah exactly, it's a full circle. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Corey had been devoted to Sarah, following her around basically

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<v Speaker 1>like a puppy dog, putting around a pedestal, making you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her everything feel good and all that sort of thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this situation basically brought everything to a breaking point,

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<v Speaker 1>leading to a heated argument between Sarah and Adrian. Sarah's

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<v Speaker 1>feelings of hatred towards Adrian grew intensified with each passing day,

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<v Speaker 1>and You're resorted to making many dirogatory comments about her promiscuity,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say around the school.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh geez, So she just couldn't handle this.

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<v Speaker 1>She could not. Now, there was a report of them

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<v Speaker 1>having an argument and kind of you know, fixing things

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit here, and they were friends again,

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<v Speaker 1>but one way or another they would end up having

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<v Speaker 1>a rather severe argument and getting to that point again

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<v Speaker 1>where they're not friends anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure it would like even after some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of argument, it probably wouldn't have been the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So No, I don't think so. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was like an initial argument, they kind of patched things up,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were still rather on edge, and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the argument just kind of intensified and it happened again

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. And I mean Adrian did have like

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<v Speaker 1>some desperate attempts to kind of like mend their friendship

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<v Speaker 1>and reconcile. She really did want to be friends with

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah and Corey, right, this was a new thing. She

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really have many friends before, so this is a

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<v Speaker 1>whole new experience for her, right, and she really actually

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<v Speaker 1>cherished these friendships. So she was really trying to reconcile

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure everything was okay. But at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah remained rather furious and was determined to make Adriane's

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, Wow, so like really not a true friend.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not aug of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they probably would have been true friends if

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah was still the number one popular then the hottest,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know that sort of yeah, mean girl's status.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I just I don't love that, no at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither do I. Sarah would actually even claim to have

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<v Speaker 1>written in her journal about her intentions to kill Adrian.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she would have conversations with some classmates, but her

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<v Speaker 1>friends and classmates just kind of brushed this off as

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. Ah yeah, not really realizing the gravity of

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<v Speaker 1>the situation or her emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, Oh my gosh. And that's so often that

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<v Speaker 2>people just kind of like brush it off. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like us on the other hand, I think everyone's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>to murder me, so I just run around trying to

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. But I'm sitting here thinking of an angsty

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<v Speaker 1>teenager listening to murderous rap music all the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>can see that being off the cuff kind of conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, if you look at a teenage boy playing

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<v Speaker 1>Call of Duty on his freak in PlayStation or Xbox

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<v Speaker 1>or computer whatever, he's telling people, got to fucking kill you,

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<v Speaker 1>like all the time. Yeah, it's not usually something that

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<v Speaker 1>you say with any weight behind it, I suppose, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do honestly think that, And this might be something

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<v Speaker 1>that people don't agree with. I do think that Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that in her journal without any weight behind I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she had any intention of killing.

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<v Speaker 2>Her Okay, so well, yeah, you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>emotions when you're a teenager, and you don't really quite

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<v Speaker 2>grasp what to the extent things mean necessarily, right exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be. On January twenty first, two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian received an invitation from Sarah and Corey to have

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<v Speaker 1>lunch and discuss their friendship. Whether they're going to patch

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<v Speaker 1>things up or or what. They're like, Hey, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>for lunch. Let's sort some things out, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And at this point, is Corey and Sarah still like friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? They they tight, okay, so willing to resolve any issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian accepted the offer and joined them in Sarah's car,

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<v Speaker 1>which Corey was driving. So Corey drove to the nearby

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<v Speaker 1>Taco Bell and during the ride, of course, the conversations began, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the topics of the friendship. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>did this to anger me or whatever. With that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of conversation, you know, tempers usually rise and tensions flare, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what happened. During the drive, tension was

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<v Speaker 1>rising between both Sarah and Adrian, which led to quite

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<v Speaker 1>a heated argument. So upon arrival at their destination of

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<v Speaker 1>the Taco Bell, the situation had escalated even further and

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<v Speaker 1>the argument turned into a physical altercation in the backseat

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<v Speaker 1>of the car, which was quickly spiraling out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>Ohly shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah and Adrian were now in a full out, violent fistfight.

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<v Speaker 1>Punches were being thrown, and it was increasing in intensity.

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<v Speaker 1>Corey had parked the car and he was trying to intervene,

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<v Speaker 1>but his intervention was a little different. He, being so

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<v Speaker 1>devout to Sarah, wanted to support Sarah, so he restrained Adrian.

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<v Speaker 1>He held her down.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck? Seriously? Yes, Oh my gosh. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't expecting that at all. I was thinking he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to like help break them up.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he held Adrian down. Oh, and Sarah then reached

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<v Speaker 1>for and grabbed a All I could really find a

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<v Speaker 1>description was this was a wooden implement she had for

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<v Speaker 1>protection in her car. I'm assuming this is somewhat of

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<v Speaker 1>like a small baseball batter or a fish bunker or

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<v Speaker 1>a club of some sort. And she began using this

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<v Speaker 2>Who yeah, yeah, Like I'm I feel like all like

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<v Speaker 2>hot and bothered here right now. That's brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, and he's just pinning her down and let

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<v Speaker 1>what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I can let you go on a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also have this feeling that this lunch idea wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily a reconciliation per se.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, if I think about it, Why would

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<v Speaker 1>they have driven to a taco bell in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of day lunchtime. This is a very populated area. If

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<v Speaker 1>they had other intentions, I don't think they would have

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<v Speaker 1>gone here. Okay, at least if they didn't have intentions,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it would have been here and now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so. So.

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<v Speaker 1>Adriaan was now being pinned down as another person was

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<v Speaker 1>assaulting her. It's terrible, but that's exactly what she was

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<v Speaker 1>going through. She was overpowered and she stood no chance. Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>after beating her with the wooden implement, then resorted to

422
00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.880
<v Speaker 1>using her own belt in the altercation. She wrapped the

423
00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>belt around Adrian's neck and began to strangle her. Slowly.

424
00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:10.599
<v Speaker 1>As she tightened the belts around her neck, she watched

425
00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:15.240
<v Speaker 1>the life fade from Adrian's eyes until finally it led

426
00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:21.039
<v Speaker 1>to her tragic death in the back seat of that car. Whoa,

427
00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>she strangled her to death?

428
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit? Yeah wow, I am actually like sweating right

429
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:33.039
<v Speaker 2>now because for some reason, this is making me very uncomfortable.

430
00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>This one pisses me off on a few different ways.

431
00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, it's it seems just so unfucking necessary.

432
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, all over a popularity contest.

433
00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, it's almost hard to just fathom.

434
00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, wow, I can't believe that they actually went

435
00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:59.359
<v Speaker 3>to the point where they killed her, Like I don't

436
00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:01.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but I was not fucking expecting that.

437
00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, And one detail I do want to talk about

438
00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>here is that this whole fatal occurrence did occur midday

439
00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:12.799
<v Speaker 1>in a busy fast food establishment parking lot, yet there

440
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:19.519
<v Speaker 1>was no one who saw anything. What how Hell, here's

441
00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:23.839
<v Speaker 1>the thing. This was January twenty first, right, Any witness

442
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:27.039
<v Speaker 1>present in this Taco Bell parking lot that day could

443
00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:29.680
<v Speaker 1>not provide a clear account of the events due to

444
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>the car windows fogging up from the winter air, obscuring

445
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the view of the interior.

446
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Yep, Okay, well guess that makes sense.

447
00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, us living up in the north, anyone who lives

448
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:44.440
<v Speaker 1>in colder temperatures, you understand the winter, those windows with

449
00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:48.279
<v Speaker 1>a cold outside and your breath or warm inside, it

450
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>fogs up fast.

451
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.279
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, like in that situation, I feel like anyone

452
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>would kind of they'd see it. They wouldn't necessarily try

453
00:24:57.519 --> 00:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>to look because you would probably think that there's like

454
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.000
<v Speaker 2>teenagers having sex in there or something.

455
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what it was. Yeah, some people did see

456
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that something was happening in this car, and they literally

457
00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>like dismissed it as teenagers fooling around in some aspects,

458
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>shape or form, whether it's rough housing or sex or

459
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:16.559
<v Speaker 1>who knows what.

460
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, Like, I don't think they would have gone

461
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 2>to a place where they thought that they were murdering

462
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:23.079
<v Speaker 2>no one in there.

463
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:26.279
<v Speaker 1>No, I've seen some suspicious behavior in vehicles before, and

464
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.519
<v Speaker 1>usually I'm like, someone's having some fun. I'm not usually

465
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>jumping towards someone's dying.

466
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:32.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

467
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:37.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I can't blame any pedestrian for not intervening

468
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:38.640
<v Speaker 1>by any means.

469
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

470
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>So later prosecutors would never actually really know the full

471
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>story of what happened inside this car because there's no witnesses.

472
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>All they could really do was take accounts of people

473
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:55.200
<v Speaker 1>inside the car, and they would eventually a little bit

474
00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:58.559
<v Speaker 1>of a spoiler alert, but they would eventually learn details

475
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:02.319
<v Speaker 1>from individuals in the car, and they are trusting that yes,

476
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>it was a wooden implement and it belt as I described. Okay, Okay,

477
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 1>So that is the official story on record, regardless of

478
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>the exact details though, whether it was on record or

479
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>what actually happened to what people thought they saw or

480
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:22.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't see. Both Sarah and Corey were now responsible for

481
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Adrian Reynolds brutal beating and strangulation leading to a tragic situation,

482
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and they now had her body on their hands, so

483
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 1>they did decided to get the vehicle started and they

484
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>drove a little ways away from the Taco bell to

485
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>a more private area to discuss what they needed to do.

486
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:46.759
<v Speaker 1>From there, they stuffed Adrian's body into the trunk of

487
00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:49.279
<v Speaker 1>the car and they decided they need to dispose of

488
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>her by taking her to a farm that was owned

489
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:53.799
<v Speaker 1>by Sarah's grandparents.

490
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's like so smart, right, Yeah, Like, honestly, that's

491
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 2>so logical. I can't fucking believe.

492
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>It makes so much Everything they do here makes so

493
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>much sense. Trust me, you're gonna get more pissed. I

494
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>guarantee it. So, while they're driving out to Sarah's family farm,

495
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Adrian's family was now growing concern about her whereabouts. It

496
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:14.400
<v Speaker 1>was a little later in the day by now, and

497
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Adrian hadn't turned up for her shift at work and

498
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:22.480
<v Speaker 1>they had no idea where she was, so her family

499
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.279
<v Speaker 1>reported her missing and police began searching for any sign

500
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of her, unfortunately to no avail. So as hours turned

501
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>into days and a couple days were going by the

502
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>search continued and numerous flyers were being passed out around town,

503
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 1>posted across the city on light poles, telephone poles, on

504
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 1>business windows, you name it, anywhere, mailboxes. No one, not

505
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>even Adriane's school friends, recalled seeing her on the day

506
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>she disappeared. However, a few days later, an anonymous tip

507
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>led authorities to the Talk Go Bell parking lot where

508
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Adrian was supposedly spotted.

509
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so someone did see her.

510
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Someone did see her. So the investigation quickly honed in

511
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>on Sarah and Corey, the last two people who were

512
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>seen with Adrian. Police brought them in for questioning, and

513
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>initially they both maintained their innocence. They never spoke about

514
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the incident in the car. They're just like, yeah, no, no,

515
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>we didn't do shit. Yeah we saw her, we were

516
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>with her, but no, we didn't do anything.

517
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling though, that you would have been

518
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>able to like read them like a book kind of thing.

519
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Probably, yeah, especially like younger kids are not generally the

520
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>best at hiding emotions, are lying.

521
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and did they actually talk every little detail through

522
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 2>about if they got caught, what they're going to say

523
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:54.240
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, you know.

524
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, they didn't. Yeah, no, so be cause Sarah claimed

525
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.359
<v Speaker 1>that they had dropped Adrian off at the nearby Victimolds

526
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 1>after a minor argument, stating that they'd made up by

527
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the time they dropped her off, and Corey provided a

528
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>slightly contrasting narrative stating that the group had picked up

529
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Adrian with the intention of Sarah and her reconciling their differences,

530
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and according to him, there was a minor argument, but

531
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 1>they managed to resolve it over lunch where they ate,

532
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and then after the meal, Adrian requested to be dropped

533
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 1>off Adam McDonald's, so Corey saying, yeah, they sorted it

534
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>out over lunch, whereas Sarah's like, no, we sorted it out,

535
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't eat, and then dropped her off so she can

536
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:40.519
<v Speaker 1>go have lunch.

537
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I honestly can't say that's surprising to me.

538
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there was not not a lot. I mean,

539
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>there was consistencies, but it wasn't fully consistent to what

540
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>they were saying. However, the weight of the guilt was

541
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>weighing heavy on Corey's conscience.

542
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I knew it was going to be Corey, he

543
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>knew it was gonna be. I knew it was going

544
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:01.799
<v Speaker 2>to be Cory.

545
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which of course set him apart from Sarah because

546
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Sarah didn't seem like she was going to be cracking.

547
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 1>So the burden of the whole secret became unbearable, and

548
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>during the police interrogation, Corey finally broke down and confessed

549
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the whole horrifying truth. So he revealed that the week earlier,

550
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Sarah had been beaten and strangled or sorry, Sarah had

551
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 1>beaten and strangled Adrian my bad in the backseat of

552
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the car, and together they had dismembered and disposed of

553
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 1>her body.

554
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, they actually went to the extent where

555
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:37.079
<v Speaker 2>they dismembered her body.

556
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, holy shit. Before we get into that, I do

557
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 1>want to recount a conversation with Brett Gregory, who's Corey's father.

558
00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 1>So he stated, quote, he started crying, and I started

559
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>asking him questions, and he started breaking down. He started

560
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>crying more, so I knew something was up. I just

561
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>couldn't even say anything. I just cried and hugged him,

562
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:10.039
<v Speaker 1>and he says, mom, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.

563
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 1>At that point, my heart was so broken. I didn't

564
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>even have words. I said, did something happen to her

565
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in that car and he started shaking his head. Yes,

566
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't talk. I said, did she get hurt in

567
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the car? He shook his head yes. I said did

568
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>she get hurt bad? He said really, really a lot.

569
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, is she dead? He shook his head yes.

570
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, where's she at? He just couldn't He

571
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>just couldn't talk.

572
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Holy that that's heavy, Like that's brutal, right, that makes

573
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 2>me like want to solve my face off.

574
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 1>That's a conversation between a father and son step by

575
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>step figuring out that he killed his friend.

576
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, I mean, because that's the thing, like you see,

577
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 2>like Adrian was the victim, right, yes, but then there's

578
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>other victims always in like in crimes and stuff too,

579
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>that don't necessarily get like recognized, I suppose. But yeah,

580
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 2>like imagine being a parent. Your kid made the one

581
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 2>of the worst decisions that you could ever have made,

582
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 2>like really fucked up. Oh yeah, and like their life

583
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be like overaltered to to yeah, like a

584
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.319
<v Speaker 2>state of being over almost. Yeah, so brutal.

585
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 1>So Corey's absolutely chilling confession because I mean, your eyes

586
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>are watery as fuck right now.

587
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 2>I could hardly listen to that all hit.

588
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It would continue to unfold in questioning as he described

589
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the horrific aftermath of their actions, and this is where

590
00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 1>they actually understand the details of the beating and the strangulation.

591
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>So when he described this, he described when they arrived

592
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>at the farm in the secluded spot detailed, they decided

593
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they were going to try and dispose of their friend's remains.

594
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 1>So quote, we poured gasoline on her and lit her

595
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 1>on fire, Corey revealed. When asked about the details, he

596
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 1>admitted to being the one who poured the gasoline on

597
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:33.519
<v Speaker 1>the tarp that was covering Adrian's body, and they used

598
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 1>a buttane lighter to set the fire ablaze while Sarah

599
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>stood beside him, seeking comfort as tears streamed down her face. However,

600
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the plan didn't exactly go as expected. Adrian didn't turn

601
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 1>to ash as they hoped, instead of simply burning the

602
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>evidence where they were as they were hoping. They were

603
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:57.559
<v Speaker 1>left with a macabre dilemma of what to do next

604
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>because Adrian's body was still completely there was just she

605
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 1>now had some severe burns on herself.

606
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 2>They literally thought that it would just be like cremating her.

607
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, really, hey, I don't think pouring gas on a

608
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 1>steak would cremate a steak, Like you're going to see

609
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>her and burn and chart, but it's not doing anything

610
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 1>internally or all the way through. So yeah, tarp and

611
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>gasoline they thought was going to just cremate her, not

612
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>even close. So Corey and Sarah contemplated cutting up Adrian's

613
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>body to dispose of her, but Sarah wasn't going to

614
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>do it, and Corey and Corey refused, unable to bear

615
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the idea of cutting her up. Okay, okay, In their desperation,

616
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>they came up with an idea. They sought the assistance

617
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of another friend by the name of Nathan Goddet, someone

618
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 1>who had a very dark fascination with blood, gore, and violence.

619
00:34:56.360 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Holy okay, I'm just like, now, yeah, you almost think

620
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>this shit's wrapping up and it's not.

621
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Nope. So the following day, with Nathan now in tow,

622
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>they returned back to the farm. Armed with Nathan and

623
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>his grandfather's hacksaw. Whoa, Nathan began to dismember Adrian's body

624
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:21.320
<v Speaker 1>piece by piece.

625
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, was this fucking Nathan guy friends with her as well?

626
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was friends with Adrian or

627
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 1>not he would have known her. I'm assuming, but I

628
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:31.079
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

629
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I am just like, what the actual fuck at

630
00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:39.519
<v Speaker 2>this point? Oh yeah, he actually went and fucking helped.

631
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, he just went and just began

632
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>hacking her body up while the other two just sat

633
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>back and watched.

634
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Good god. Okay.

635
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>So, once Adrian's remains were in more manageable pieces, I

636
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 1>guess as a way to describe it, they discarded torso

637
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and legs in a nearby ravine before grabbing a meal

638
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:09.159
<v Speaker 1>at McDonald's and then proceeding to the nearby local Blackhawk

639
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Historic site, where they buried remains. The rest of the

640
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.599
<v Speaker 1>remains several feet below a manhole cover.

641
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 2>They went and had some fucking chicken nuggets with plum sauce.

642
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 2>After they did.

643
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.679
<v Speaker 1>That show if they had nuggets and plum sauce, that

644
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 1>is so fucked. Yeah. They butchered their friends, disposed of

645
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>half her remains, went to McDonald's for lunch, and then

646
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>continued the rest. Holy shit, Yeah, how can you say

647
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.119
<v Speaker 1>that you even have a conscience, let alone a fucking

648
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>stomach to eat lunch in a situation like that. That

649
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:45.199
<v Speaker 1>is fucked.

650
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the fucking warning for this one. Here. I

651
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.760
<v Speaker 2>was just like Lotti da da da, sitting down. I

652
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 2>don't know why I'm Lati da like, of course shit's

653
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 2>going down here.

654
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>But holy crap, Well your reaction is pretty much the

655
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.480
<v Speaker 1>reaction the whole investigation team went. Corey was confessing this

656
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 1>in the interrogation.

657
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow, okay, Like, I don't even know if someone's confessing

658
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>shit like this. I just don't actually think. I've always

659
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 2>thought I could be an investigator, but I don't know

660
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>if I could, because I don't think I could have

661
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>like a poker face during that shit.

662
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a poker face. Now you look fucking pissed.

663
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm very uncomfortable, very agitated, and pissed.

664
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Yes, rightfully so. So after the whole confession in the interrogation,

665
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:33.159
<v Speaker 1>the police now know what happened, what's going on. Corey

666
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.559
<v Speaker 1>would lead police to the Blackhawk Historical Site where they

667
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 1>uncovered Adrian's severed arms and head, and then to Sarah's

668
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:45.840
<v Speaker 1>grandparents farm where they found her legs and partially charred Torso.

669
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So the investigator's police now have their suspects. They had

670
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 1>a confession, and they now had remains. However, one crucial

671
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 1>detail remained concealed in Corey's testimony, a detail that I

672
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>actually already did divults the involvement of the friend Nathan.

673
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Corey didn't initially tell investigators about him. Really, it was

674
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>only through Nathan's grandmother that the police learned his role

675
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>in this whole gruesome incident.

676
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm surprised by that.

677
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So she contacted authorities concerned about a bloody hacksaw

678
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>she found in her basement, jeez, which pointed towards her

679
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>grandson's involvement, And when questioning Corey about it, he was like, oh, yeah,

680
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>he yeah, here's how his involvement went. And then he

681
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 1>divulged that piece of information. Sorry for being a little

682
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 1>bit off track with that events, but it seemed more

683
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.599
<v Speaker 1>right to tell you his involvement earlier.

684
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:50.639
<v Speaker 2>That's fine, but that, I mean, good for the grandma. Yeah, honestly,

685
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 2>like that's impressive because like, I don't think that would

686
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.119
<v Speaker 2>necessarily be an easy thing for a grandma to do.

687
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. So Yeah, anyways, this whole situation, Corey,

688
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 1>he justified his acts, his actions as an act of

689
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:13.159
<v Speaker 1>protecting Sarah, a girl he deeply cared for from facing

690
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>jail time. He wanted to prevent her from facing jail time.

691
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>He wanted to help her and cover this up, And

692
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 1>it was all basically an act of love, which I'm

693
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 1>pretty sure we all kind of guess that anyways. Yeah,

694
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.519
<v Speaker 1>so once we were kind of talking into getting tried

695
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and trials. Despite efforts, Sarah was eventually tried as an adult,

696
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 1>but her first trial ended in a mistrial on November

697
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 1>sixteenth in two thousand and five, as the jury couldn't

698
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:49.199
<v Speaker 1>reach a unanimous verdict, which surprises the absolute hell out

699
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of me.

700
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't, yeah, what's like, what was the issue?

701
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly, but they could not reach a verdict.

702
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>They could not all determine if she was guilty or innocent.

703
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Someone was at least on one opposing side, at least one.

704
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 1>So in the retrial that began on February eighth, two

705
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, Sarah was found guilty of first degree

706
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>murder and concealing a homicide for three weeks.

707
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, first agree, Hey, yes.

708
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>She received a sentence. You ready for this?

709
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:32.079
<v Speaker 2>M hm? Oh it's better be good fifty three years ohkay? Okay?

710
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And bars Yeah, I'm actually alright with that.

711
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Corey pled guilty to the same crimes in May

712
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and five, with his supposed minimal participation

713
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.559
<v Speaker 1>resulting in a sentence of forty five years.

714
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, uh okay, I kind of feel like that one's

715
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:55.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that's so tough. I feel like that's

716
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:01.559
<v Speaker 2>a bit much considering what she got. But oh god, yeah, okay.

717
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.280
<v Speaker 1>So he did have an appeal, and his latest one

718
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>was denied on September seventeenth, two thousand and nine, where

719
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>part of his complaint revolved around seeking a lesser sentence

720
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>because he was the one who led authorities to Adrian's remains.

721
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:19.079
<v Speaker 1>The judge basically referred to his appeal as a case

722
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of buyer's remorse because he attempted to withdraw his guilty

723
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>plea and demand a new trial because he's all like, well,

724
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I led you to the remains. I should get a

725
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.599
<v Speaker 1>lesser charge. I mean, you still did the fucking crime. Yeah,

726
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, honestly, you did get a lesser charge.

727
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>It's I don't know. He he didn't. He wasn't the

728
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:41.679
<v Speaker 1>one who pulled the trigger, but he was there. He

729
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 1>let it happen. He pinned her down, He then hid

730
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>her body, he helped someone find someone to dismember her body. Sure,

731
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>he confessed later, but you still did all those fucking

732
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>horrific things in the meantime.

733
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm struggling with that when little bit because

734
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 2>I guess, like, if it wasn't for him, or sorry,

735
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.039
<v Speaker 2>if it wasn't for Sarah, like he wouldn't have done that.

736
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:11.480
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. I mean, he definitely deserves jail

737
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>time one hundred percent. Yeah, But and then I just

738
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:19.639
<v Speaker 2>wanted to say too, I'm almost wondering if Sarah's original trial,

739
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:22.519
<v Speaker 2>if it was an issue of like deciding if it

740
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 2>was like first degree versus kind of like manslaughter or something.

741
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>It's just a thought in my head because like, maybe

742
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of obvious that she's guilty. I can't

743
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 2>imagine someone thinking she's not, So maybe it was just

744
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>not sure for the charge.

745
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:36.559
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know, That's.

746
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 2>That's the only way my head can go.

747
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The whole Justine system sentencing for Nathan, however, was

748
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>widely deemed inadequate for the severity of his actions. So

749
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:54.119
<v Speaker 1>regarding that Sarah had fifty three and Corey had forty

750
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 1>five with Nathan due to the plea bargaining at his

751
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>age at the time of the crime, then received a

752
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 1>relatively lenient sentence of what do you.

753
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Think five years?

754
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:08.599
<v Speaker 1>Five years in juvenile detention?

755
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is fucked. Yeah, because if anyone I feel

756
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>like is going to reoffend, potentially it could be him.

757
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Yeah, because he just jumped in there and

758
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>happily packed up a.

759
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Body like it's it's actually like terrifying.

760
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which I mean, that's pretty much what everyone else

761
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is saying. Like the whole decision was raising concerns about

762
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>public safety given the potential risk associated with his release

763
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>on what he fucking did. Yeah, that's everyone's concerns too. Yeah,

764
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Like he has a subsession, he no questions asked, just

765
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>hacked up someone.

766
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:46.239
<v Speaker 2>And got a taste for this now yeah, well yeah exactly.

767
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And he's only gonna put away in juvenile attention for.

768
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Five years yep. So oh that makes me almost ill.

769
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The case of Adrian Reynolds, of course, remains a

770
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.119
<v Speaker 1>horrific and sad story. She's a young girl who was

771
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>just trying to better her life but instead lost it

772
00:44:03.880 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>because of a jealous friend and a quasi love triangle.

773
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Jeez. And the fact, okay, like what happened in the

774
00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:14.360
<v Speaker 2>back seat was like horrible, But the fact that they

775
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 2>just man like destroyed her body, like destroyed her body

776
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>for her family, if that's like what they did to

777
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 2>it after the fact, is like is almost just as disturbing.

778
00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Really, well, what was the point of dismembering her? They

779
00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>dumped her in locations? Cool, they didn't really cover her

780
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>by any means. She was dumped in half of her

781
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.639
<v Speaker 1>was dumped in ravine on her parents, her grandparents property. Okay,

782
00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 1>if someone comes across that ravine, they're just gonna see

783
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:49.440
<v Speaker 1>pieces of a body. Yeah, why not just dump an

784
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>entire body so there's no difference, you know.

785
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah it was. It's like almost just so unlogical

786
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:59.039
<v Speaker 2>their thought process, I guess of what was going through

787
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.159
<v Speaker 2>their head. I mean, they were obviously panicking.

788
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they were just angry, you know, they just couldn't

789
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 1>think clearly.

790
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Until their McDonald until they had.

791
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Their fucking McDonald's.

792
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so disturbing. I literally can't believe that someone

793
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 2>would want to eat, like would be able to eat

794
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 2>like after that.

795
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

796
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Holy.

797
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.800
<v Speaker 1>So Yeah, that's the story of Adrian Reynolds.

798
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Huh, that's really really sad.

799
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that one came up on our discord, so

800
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:28.480
<v Speaker 1>thank you for that.

801
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 2>And sorry, this was in the United States or where

802
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:32.039
<v Speaker 2>was this?

803
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

804
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay in the States, Okay, okay.

805
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>How many times are you going to say? Okay? I

806
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

807
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm very disturbed right now. I don't have anything, rightfully,

808
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:45.039
<v Speaker 2>So this was this was bothersome to me, this one.

809
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Why exactly was it bothersome? Just because it was so like,

810
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>there's no point to this.

811
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:53.679
<v Speaker 2>It was just yeah, and I guess it was just

812
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>like very unexpected, like it was just and ones that

813
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:02.360
<v Speaker 2>bother me more when it's just so like unnecessary, and

814
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.800
<v Speaker 2>not that any are necessary, but when it's just so

815
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.360
<v Speaker 2>like absurd. I don't know. This one, just this one

816
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.039
<v Speaker 2>just is hard for me to process for some reason

817
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:12.679
<v Speaker 2>right now.

818
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough. I mean, I'm someone who plays Devil's advocate

819
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>all the time, so I try and get in the

820
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 1>head of what someone is thinking or reasons why not

821
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that I agree with it, you know, But at least

822
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.079
<v Speaker 1>with some killers, you can get in their head and

823
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:32.079
<v Speaker 1>you understand their thought process as dark and stupid as

824
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 1>it is. With this one, I can't do that. I

825
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 1>can't understand her thought process. Boys like you, so I'm

826
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 1>going to kill you?

827
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes teenage girls are interesting.

828
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Trust me, so can teenage boys. I think teenagers in

829
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>gener yeah, are just interesting. But humans too.

830
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 2>But I all ages, I very much. So do believe

831
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 2>that there could have pit potentially been some ill feelings

832
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 2>or like, I don't think that her intentions were appear

833
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.960
<v Speaker 2>when she offered to go have lunch with Adrian.

834
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.320
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, no, I don't think so either. But

835
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she had the intentions of killing her there.

836
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not killing yeah, because.

837
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, a very public place. Who's going to

838
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 1>kill someone mid day like lunch rush we're talking here?

839
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

840
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like that doesn't line up to me.

841
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But I don't really think that it was like to reconcile.

842
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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not. Maybe she planned on just kicking the shit

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<v Speaker 1>out of her or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Interesting.

845
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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she did plan on that whole altercation in the

846
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<v Speaker 1>car too, but she just didn't plan on actually killing her,

847
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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then as it's happening, this deep seated

848
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<v Speaker 1>thing that she actually kind of really wants to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know yeah, well maybe I don't know one way,

850
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<v Speaker 1>no matter how you slice it like this, it's just

851
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<v Speaker 1>so fucked it doesn't make sense. There's the motive for

852
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<v Speaker 1>boys think you're cute and you want to date my

853
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<v Speaker 1>ex boyfriend who I am not dating anymore, and refuse

854
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<v Speaker 1>to date, so I'm gonna kill you. Doesn't make any

855
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<v Speaker 1>fucking sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this honestly just makes me a like not miss

857
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<v Speaker 2>being a teenager and be like, actually, like pretty fine

858
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<v Speaker 2>that we're not having kids, because that shit's just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I don't think i'd be able to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's pretty I'd like grim.

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<v Speaker 2>My huskies and my chickens and yeah, but honestly, kiwi

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<v Speaker 2>oh and Kiwi sorry my chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a second thought.

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<v Speaker 2>The chickens could raise some hell too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well chickens will probably eventually bully and pick

867
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<v Speaker 1>on each other, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and I'm not gonna be doing well with

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<v Speaker 2>that anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it work.

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<v Speaker 2>Research for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one was actually relative easy to research. I

873
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<v Speaker 1>don't know why, but I just had I don't know,

874
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<v Speaker 1>there was something about it that was like easy to research.

875
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<v Speaker 1>The whole information out there wasn't a super accessible. I

876
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<v Speaker 1>think it was just so intriguing to me, Like I

877
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<v Speaker 1>was really captivated with what the fuck that I was

878
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<v Speaker 1>just into the research on it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like I mean, it had like a really

880
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<v Speaker 2>like easy timeline to follow to ice.

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<v Speaker 1>Of hope it did. It really did, because there's not

882
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<v Speaker 1>like like the actions occurred a couple days later confession

883
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<v Speaker 1>and like it all happened within like six months sort

884
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<v Speaker 1>of thing as opposed to like years of time. And

885
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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I think that kind of definitely helped.

886
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<v Speaker 1>But I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. It is interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just going to say, yeah, they even went

888
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<v Speaker 2>through the court process pretty dang quickly. Really, yeah they did, honestly. Yeah, Okay,

889
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<v Speaker 2>and I just wanted to say really quickly, I am

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<v Speaker 2>finally working on an episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It will come.

892
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<v Speaker 2>It will be a little while. Yeah, this wedding season

893
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<v Speaker 2>has been has been a lot so Ben has grace.

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<v Speaker 1>Gracefully, gracious, graciously.

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<v Speaker 2>Graciously been kind of taking the lead on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It It's been helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been so thanks. It's been fun though. So yeah, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I will be presenting at some point in the near.

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<v Speaker 1>Fielture are you going to tell them the case you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have hinted at this one before you have, but no, no,

902
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<v Speaker 2>it's a camping related one. It's been on my list

903
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<v Speaker 2>for frickin ever. I have the friggin' book that I yeah, okay, well.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. It's camping related one, is it? Jason vohees, No,

905
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<v Speaker 1>that's a horror movie. But anyways, we hope you guys

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this episode. We appreciate you guys being here, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to the very bitter end where we're

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of yapping back and forth and you're enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>a drink with us. Maybe we appreciate it. If you

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<v Speaker 1>extra goodness content. We have YouTube where videos are starting

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<v Speaker 1>if not, you can just chill with us here. We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that too.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, you can go ahead and give us a review

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<v Speaker 1>you for just being here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right before this, I took a little mini video

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<v Speaker 2>to put on Patreon of our chicken coop. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so go check out our Chicken Coop on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get a shout out in the next episode two.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, until next week, stay Wicked.