1 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:33,799 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from 2 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:38,920 Voice Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, 3 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,520 we're going to bring you this week's episode of The 4 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,479 Big Story. But first I do want to encourage you 5 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,439 to check out our other podcast, and in particular, I 6 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,399 want to highlight the great adventurers of old time radio. 7 00:00:53,799 --> 00:00:57,200 Every week we bring you two great adventure stories from 8 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,920 the golden age of radio. We went through a couple 9 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:06,840 of great series in Flash Gordon and Okandagger, and we 10 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:11,920 started as you may have heard this week on Tourzan 11 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:14,519 and in a few weeks we're going to be bringing 12 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,040 you episodes of Counterspot. If you love adventures, a great 13 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:22,040 place to be check out the Great Adventurers of Old 14 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:27,120 Time Radio at Great Adventures dot info or wherever you 15 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:32,319 get your podcast from now. From January seventh, nineteen forty eight, 16 00:01:32,439 --> 00:01:35,480 here is Manhunt in Manhattan. 17 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: The Big Story. 18 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: Okay, that's Moose. Now you all know what to do. 19 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:51,040 Let him in. Hi, Hi you Joey, shit down? What Samanda? 20 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Hey put that gun down? Joey? 21 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:53,719 Speaker 4: What matter? 22 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: Nothing? Not a thing? Just read it. You just went 23 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,560 and sang to the cop. 24 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:01,599 Speaker 5: I didn't shut up, shut up, and start to die 25 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:02,719 because hear it. 26 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: Come on, don't show we don't just a gag moose. 27 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,479 Speaker 6: It wasn't a loaded He was getting bored, so I 28 00:02:14,599 --> 00:02:17,680 thought I'd have a laugh. Okay, now let's get to work. 29 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,800 I got a nice job. 30 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 7: Oh lined up. 31 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: The Big Story, another in the thrilling series based on 32 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,120 true experiences of newspaper reporters. Tonight to Ted Prager of 33 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:42,319 the New York Daily News goes the Pellmell Award for 34 00:02:42,479 --> 00:03:00,439 the Big Story. Now the authentic and exciting story of 35 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:02,520 manhunt in Manhattan. 36 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 8: You are Ted Prager, night reporter for the New York 37 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,719 Daily News, and murder is almost old hat to you. 38 00:03:17,719 --> 00:03:21,199 You've covered the doings of Vincent mad Dog, Carl Dutch, 39 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:24,400 Schultzy Madden, and Murder Incorporated for your paper. 40 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: You know you're underworld. 41 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 8: You know robbery, arson, burglary, and homicide, almost inside out 42 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,759 away in insurance man no statistics. 43 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:38,159 Speaker 3: Yes, you know your business. 44 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:42,719 Speaker 8: You're even a little blase about crime until one night, 45 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,120 about one in the morning, you're in a friendly bar 46 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,240 on East seventh Street and the conversation is small talk 47 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:52,080 with Sandy the bartender. 48 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: Oh, football is not football? 49 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,599 Speaker 8: Anymore too professional, Sandy, give me those college teams. 50 00:03:57,919 --> 00:04:00,879 Speaker 9: I agree with you, mister Prage. You take that old 51 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:05,800 Notre Dame team. I'd rather watch them than Hey, mister Prager, 52 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:08,479 you see that what that guy just. 53 00:04:08,479 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: Walk down, the one with his hair all slipped down. 54 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:14,159 Speaker 10: Yeah, looks like there's four or five wood of them. 55 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 8: Say, I know that face from somewhere, some small time mugger. 56 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:18,879 Speaker 11: O there. 57 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 9: What are they spreading up like that for? 58 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:24,959 Speaker 3: I don't know, Sandy. It looks like a stick up. 59 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:29,639 Here's a smart man, cute too. Give the man a cigar. 60 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,439 Speaker 1: That's just what it is, all. 61 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 6: Right, everybody quiet, and you people haven't figured it out yet. 62 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,199 Speaker 3: This is what we call a hold up. 63 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,519 Speaker 5: Get your wallets out, rings, jewelry from the ladies. 64 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: My boys will pass among you. 65 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 6: Backy, you may open up that register and empty ant 66 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:46,160 a bar. 67 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: Now make around, boys, and you don't have to leave. 68 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,680 None of these good people carve. Let them walk. 69 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 6: What are you looking that cute guy? 70 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,199 Speaker 3: Nothing? I see what you got. Here's my money? 71 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,439 Speaker 7: What he does? I'll take your pen, go in your wallet? 72 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Not ring? 73 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think you're looking at? My face? 74 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,800 Actually like what you see? Maybe you want to remember me? 75 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,959 Is that it here? Most give me a black jack. 76 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,639 Speaker 6: This cute fella here is give me the once so 77 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:17,800 for all, su we got everything, cleaned it out, good, 78 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:18,160 let's go. 79 00:05:18,319 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: Okay, we go, too bad, cute guy. 80 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 6: And I was just gonna give you something to remember 81 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:27,439 me by solong dopes, And. 82 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 8: Something incredible happens. Five crooks walked in, but only three leave. 83 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Two of them are still standing in the bar, looking bewildered, 84 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,600 not knowing what to do. 85 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: And you realize that they're not armed. Maybe you can 86 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,319 stop them. You'll move and pan the moony and breaks loose. 87 00:05:54,199 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 12: All right, stand back there, you two stop right? 88 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,439 Speaker 10: Okay? 89 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:06,399 Speaker 3: Good shooting their opposer. Thanks, Well, you couldn't get the more, 90 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,560 but at least you got two of them. 91 00:06:07,639 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, a dead officer, I don't think so. 92 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 7: Hey, who are you? 93 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:13,759 Speaker 1: You look for me? 94 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:13,959 Speaker 13: Then? 95 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 11: Ted Preger the news, Oh yeah, sure I remember you, 96 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:17,319 mister Pregger. 97 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,519 Speaker 10: Excuse me, I gotta call the ambulance. 98 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,639 Speaker 3: Nice work, officer. I'd like to write you up. What's 99 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:21,959 your name? 100 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:26,319 Speaker 11: Matt Kaines twenty second precinct. I could use the story, 101 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,439 mister Greger. You could say it's too bad. I only 102 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:39,399 got two of them. 103 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:44,879 Speaker 10: Too bad. 104 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: I only got two of them. 105 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 6: Meant, that's the funniest thing you ever heard. 106 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,759 Speaker 3: That's too Joey. 107 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 6: Listen when Joey writes, doesn't it gets it's done? 108 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: Too bad? 109 00:06:53,639 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 14: I only got two of them, said the policeman. Listen 110 00:06:55,879 --> 00:06:56,399 from the paper. 111 00:06:56,399 --> 00:06:56,639 Speaker 3: Get this. 112 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 14: It was not until after the shooting that the officer 113 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:01,199 discuss but his fatal mistake. 114 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:04,519 Speaker 3: The two men who had entered the bar with the game. 115 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:06,399 Speaker 14: Were not part of the mob. I like that. 116 00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:09,079 Speaker 7: Not part of the mob, Go. 117 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: Ahead, finish your horses. 118 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 14: Not part of the mob. Instead, they were two innocent 119 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:16,399 taxi drivers that the leader of the mob had forced 120 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:19,160 to stay behind to act as shields so that the 121 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:22,920 actual robbers might escape under cover of the violence directed 122 00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:24,399 against the taxi drivers. 123 00:07:26,199 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: Boy, is that the pay whose dope standing there? You know? 124 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,319 Speaker 10: I can just see if imagine what they done. 125 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,959 Speaker 14: They start beating up those taxi drivers, and the cop 126 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,120 comes and bang bang law and order laser out coal 127 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,879 and says, too bad, I only got two of them. 128 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,199 They dead, Joey, No, no, only one here. 129 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:45,519 Speaker 3: Listen. 130 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 14: One of the drivers, George bver H fifty one, died instantly. 131 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,120 The other Edgar Bennedetto, thirty four, is in city hospital, 132 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,360 whereas condition is listed as critical. 133 00:07:57,399 --> 00:08:24,079 Speaker 3: Ain't that the best scream you ever heard? Sit down games? 134 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,240 Why don't you sit down him? If he dies, mister Prager, 135 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:30,680 I don't know what I'll do. How I blame yourself. 136 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:33,639 You made a mistake. Any cop might have a mistake. 137 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,679 That's right. Anyone could have done it. No one blames you. 138 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 11: I killed a man, an innocent man, and there's another 139 00:08:39,759 --> 00:08:41,799 one inside there in the operating room, and he may 140 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:42,320 die too. 141 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:44,039 Speaker 10: I murdered two men. 142 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 8: You didn't murder anyone. You accidentally shot two men in 143 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,320 the line of duty. 144 00:08:49,399 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: Look. 145 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 8: I saw the face of the man who really murdered Beaver, 146 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,840 the leader of that gang. It was a cruel face 147 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:57,879 and the vicious one. He's the murderer. If anyone is, 148 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,840 I tell you if then a dead or die, Mister Gaines, 149 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:05,000 I make you a promise. I'll find that man. I 150 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,399 know his face from somewhere. I don't care how long 151 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,120 it takes, what I have to do, but I'll find him. 152 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 11: That man Benedetto in the operating room. I checked up 153 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,519 on him. He's thirty four, been driving a cab since 154 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,080 he was twenty one, got a wife and two kids, 155 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,600 a girl seven and a little baby twenty one months. 156 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 3: I killed their father. 157 00:09:25,159 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 10: I made a widow out of his wife. 158 00:09:26,519 --> 00:09:29,639 Speaker 8: Stop at games, You've got to stop it in the 159 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:31,279 first place. Benedetto's not dead. 160 00:09:31,399 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: No, only one of them's dead. Only Beaver's dead. 161 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 10: Only a fifty one year old man's dead. 162 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: That's not so bad. That's why do you torch you? 163 00:09:40,519 --> 00:09:40,759 Speaker 8: Yeah? 164 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,279 Speaker 3: Maybe I ought to just go outside, sit down and 165 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,399 just wait. Mane try it. Maybe it won't be so bad. Yes, 166 00:09:48,159 --> 00:09:48,840 what is it done? 167 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 15: I'm sorry, gentlemen, mister Benedetto died on the operating table. 168 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: Games? Are these all the pictures in your rogues gallery? 169 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:23,240 That's right, mister Prager. 170 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 8: Well let's get started. That batch there'll do. I'll know 171 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,639 that face when I see it. You turn him, Gains, 172 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:36,320 I'll call if I see anything. All right, Nope, Nope, 173 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,799 it's none of those. Let's see some more. 174 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: You aren't gonna find him. Keep going, Gains, just keep going. 175 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,759 What did you do that for? Why'd you throw him down? 176 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,960 What's the use We won't find him? 177 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: What's the use of anything? 178 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 8: Look, I told you before You've got to get that 179 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,159 crazy idea out of your head that you're responsible for 180 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,679 the death of those drive I killed him, didn't gaines. 181 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:01,519 Speaker 3: Try to listen to me. 182 00:11:02,759 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 8: I'm going after the man who led that hold up, 183 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,679 the man who's really responsible for the death. 184 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: Of those drivers. 185 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 11: That's gonna be dangerous, mister Prager, if it gets around 186 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,600 you're hunting a crook. 187 00:11:11,639 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: You'll lose all your contacts. You won't be able to 188 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,120 get the inside on anything. I'll take that chance. I 189 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,120 can take care of myself. 190 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:18,919 Speaker 11: You won't even be able to get a byline on 191 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:19,720 these stories. 192 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: You won't dare let anyone know who's doing the job. 193 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:24,519 That's not the most important thing in the world. 194 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 11: And you get too close to this guy, there's no 195 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,600 telling what might happen to you. 196 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 8: I can still take care of myself. I'll pick up 197 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,639 those pictures and let's finish looking at him and get 198 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,320 rid of the idea you killed anyone. 199 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, okay, sure, I'll just forget the whole thing like 200 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:45,399 it never happened. Only what do I do when I 201 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,360 see a kid on the street and he reminds me 202 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,679 of Benedetto's kids? 203 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:50,519 Speaker 4: What do I do at night? 204 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 10: To make me forget so I can go to sleep. 205 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 8: Tell me that, and you, Ted Prager of the Daily News, 206 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,279 do you look at his eyes he says these words, 207 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,200 and you realize that this is a lot more than 208 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,720 a story for your paper. 209 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: Important as that is. 210 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,279 Speaker 8: Yes, you want to help catch that crook with a 211 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,320 patent lever hair and the steely eyes. But a man's 212 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,360 sanity is at stake as well. The sanity of a 213 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:24,120 nice Irish patrol and named Matt Gaines. That's also at stake. 214 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:28,639 And you watch his big open face as he listlessly 215 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,519 turns the pictures in front of him, and you know 216 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:42,440 you've got a job on your hands, a big one. 217 00:12:46,799 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: We'll be back in just a moment with tonight's big story. 218 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,159 Speaker 4: Now we return you to our narrator, Bob Sloan and 219 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,679 tonight's story. 220 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,039 Speaker 8: You, Ted Praeger, night reporter for the New York Daily News, 221 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,919 get moving on your search for a smooth haired Bandit 222 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:12,279 held up a bar and caused the accidental death. 223 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: Of two taxi drivers. 224 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 8: And though you know what you're doing is dangerous, may 225 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,159 cost you your job or maybe even your life. And 226 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,159 even if you get anything, you won't be able to 227 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,279 ride it with your byeline. You start making the rounds, 228 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:31,639 you start combing through those smoke filled bars where crimes 229 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:35,799 are hatched and dips meet to talk over their successes. 230 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,799 Speaker 16: And you know what she did. 231 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 17: She went right up to him and scratched her initials 232 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,840 in his cheek. 233 00:13:42,879 --> 00:13:43,759 Speaker 1: What did you do to her? 234 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 8: Maid? 235 00:13:44,159 --> 00:13:46,039 Speaker 16: Tell him that I drink your beer? 236 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:48,799 Speaker 3: Call it me. 237 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,159 Speaker 4: What do you want, Bud? 238 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,879 Speaker 3: Nothing? Just looking. 239 00:13:53,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 8: We don't allow looking in here, scram oh, matt ted calling. No, 240 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,000 nothing yet. I don't give up, fellow, I've only. 241 00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: Been to about a dozen places. 242 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 12: I'll find him there. 243 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 13: Please write one bear. 244 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,639 Speaker 18: You never should have done it using a couple of 245 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,919 taxi drivers for shills. Now wey not mixi because it 246 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,480 makes it tough for us. They doubled the cops in 247 00:14:34,519 --> 00:14:37,919 this area, watching every minute of the day for him. Yeah, 248 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,000 the meantime, it makes it tough on us. 249 00:14:40,159 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: Oh, never thought of that. 250 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,799 Speaker 18: Well, I did ask mill here about him. She was 251 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,960 there when it happened, right. 252 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:46,559 Speaker 3: In the place. 253 00:14:46,679 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 17: No, kid, that's right riding the place when he walked 254 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,720 in the bar on East seven. 255 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:52,039 Speaker 1: Did he take you for anything? 256 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,679 Speaker 17: Got twenty dollars out of my bag and I rang 257 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:58,279 the MAXI gave me worth eighty dollars, no kidding, sure, 258 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:01,039 and he didn't have to do that with the drivers. 259 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,000 I tell you, I'd like to make it hot for 260 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:05,440 that wise guy. I'd like to sing a little tune. 261 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 18: You won't sing no tune for anybody, can't you see 262 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:10,840 there's people around. 263 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: Hi. 264 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,559 Speaker 8: I'm interested in what you said there, Moi. 265 00:15:17,919 --> 00:15:19,399 Speaker 16: I don't know you. I didn't say a word. 266 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:20,759 Speaker 3: Beat it. 267 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:24,159 Speaker 8: Look if you want to make a little money, I 268 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:30,919 said to beat it. Okay, okay, only if you change 269 00:15:30,919 --> 00:15:34,240 your mind. My name is Ted Pregor. These people around 270 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:35,159 can tell you where to find me. 271 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:37,879 Speaker 3: You don't exist. 272 00:15:54,559 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 6: Well, boys like I always say, another day, another eight grand. 273 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Joey, you're really in there. 274 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 6: We've been quiet now a month. I think it's time 275 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,840 we stopped being quiet. Even hear people stop talking about me. 276 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,919 A job I pulled with the taxi drivers. 277 00:16:15,159 --> 00:16:19,799 Speaker 3: So what's the caper, Joey? You like this one most? 278 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 6: You like this special because this one is more my style. 279 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:45,279 Speaker 3: Listen Breager speaking Tad. This is Benson on the city desk. 280 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:48,039 You get down the east side hall, Sure, what's up? 281 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,279 Speaker 8: Just good word for a lot A big hold up. 282 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,759 Some girl was being confirmed, big party and all that, 283 00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:55,320 three men at the job. 284 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: Who can I see? You can see the girl herself. 285 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,559 She was only a kid too. 286 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 8: Fourteen right, give me the address. I'm on my way. 287 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 13: He came in, mister Prager, and they just took everything. 288 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 3: I see. What did the leader of the gang look like? 289 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 13: He was terrible. He had his hair all smoothed down 290 00:17:20,279 --> 00:17:22,920 and oily, and a smile on his face. 291 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,279 Speaker 3: Did he did he laugh out loud? 292 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,759 Speaker 13: I mean, yes, sir, especially when he when he came 293 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:30,319 after me. 294 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,799 Speaker 3: What did he do to you? Well? 295 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,039 Speaker 13: I had my ring. My father just gave it to 296 00:17:35,079 --> 00:17:38,200 me for my confirmation. It was a ring with diamonds, 297 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,400 mister Prager, so I well, to keep him from getting it, 298 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,079 I put it in my mouth. Yes, well, he came 299 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,119 up to me with that smile on his face. He 300 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:50,319 put his thumb on one side of my cheek and 301 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:55,319 his fingers on the other. He squeezed and I couldn't 302 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,440 steal it anymore. 303 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,799 Speaker 8: He's back, So he's back on the job. Don't you worry. 304 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,079 I'll find that man. 305 00:18:23,079 --> 00:18:25,319 Speaker 10: You can't park that car here, mister Matt. 306 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 8: Matt, Oh, it's you. I've been driving around looking for you. 307 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,319 Can you get in or for he's back at it again. 308 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,240 The guy we're looking for, he's around town. Can you 309 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:33,640 come with me? 310 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm off duty, But what for? 311 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 8: Because I'm going hunting for him for that patent, leather 312 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,279 hair and the smile I want company hop in. 313 00:19:05,599 --> 00:19:07,759 Speaker 3: Now we've been driving around three hours. 314 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 11: What do you expect to find this crook just standing 315 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,319 on a corner? 316 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,039 Speaker 3: Maybe you never can tell. He might. 317 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 8: Matt wants Mala right there where on the corner. 318 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,599 Speaker 3: Wouldn't he be right on the corner of Essex and 319 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,920 Hester and Broad Daylight? 320 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,039 Speaker 8: That one one talking to the girl as if he 321 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:31,240 didn't have a care in the world. 322 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: You mean it? Ted? Take him Mat yours? Oh? Brother? 323 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 10: Will I take him? 324 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:53,559 Speaker 11: Ted? 325 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 8: I just saw mister Dennis, the prosecuting attorney. 326 00:19:57,599 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 3: Yep, he says he needs a positive witness. 327 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 8: Our friend denies everything, of course, never was in the 328 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Seventh Street bar, never held up anybody use taxi drivers 329 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,440 as shields. 330 00:20:09,519 --> 00:20:11,519 Speaker 3: Watch him, Joey Rice. 331 00:20:11,319 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 7: Do a thing like that. 332 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: Also, that's his name, Joey Rice. Slick as they come, smooth. 333 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,119 It'll be tough to pin it on him. Okay, Matt, 334 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,119 I'll go in and see mister Dennis. 335 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 11: Oh no, you can't identify Rice. 336 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:25,839 Speaker 3: Why not? 337 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 11: Because it would finish you as a police reporter, cut 338 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,839 off all your contacts, and that's. 339 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,559 Speaker 3: Not all it might cut off. I'll take a chance. No, no, Ted, don't. 340 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 8: I'll tell you what I'll do. Get Rice before me 341 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,759 on a one way screen. I'll identify it and let 342 00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:44,839 mister Dennis prepare his case. If he needs me in court, 343 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:48,200 I'll testify it. Now you're talking sense, So are you met? 344 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 10: All right? 345 00:20:58,079 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 3: Rice? 346 00:20:58,839 --> 00:20:59,279 Speaker 8: That way? 347 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: Walk that way? 348 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 15: What is this just a little matter of identification? Rice, 349 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:07,680 as prosecuting attorney, I thought it might be a good 350 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,119 idea to identify you. Get over to those chalk marks 351 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,880 now and just stand still, lie down him. 352 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: Okay for you, mister Brigger. 353 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 8: That's fine, mister Dennis. Well, that's the man who held 354 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,599 up the Seventh Street bar. Sure, yes, mister Dennis, I'm 355 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,720 absolutely sure. 356 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 15: Okay, sergeant, take him away. Thanks for the identification I 357 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,160 needed that. Next time you see him, he'll be in 358 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,839 court on trial for robbery and criminal assault. 359 00:21:49,319 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: I'll get him with Joe Rice smiling. Man. Yeah, but 360 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,839 what are we gonna do? I don't know. Maybe, mister 361 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,079 Dennis has an idea. He looks plenty worried. Oh, here 362 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:00,319 comes to judge. 363 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:04,839 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, ye the animal Judge Bernard Smith, presiding cardis 364 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,400 in session. 365 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,599 Speaker 15: There goes Dennis, Your honor, mister Dennis, Yes, your honor. 366 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 19: As prosecuting attorney, I must protest the appearance of the defendant, 367 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:18,039 if it please the court. It is obvious that the 368 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:21,680 reason the defendant, Joseph Rice, came into this courtroom today 369 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,400 wearing a full beard, is to make absolute identification of 370 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:32,000 himself impossible, Your honor, we allege the defendant committed the 371 00:22:32,079 --> 00:22:37,119 crimes he's charged with with a clean shaven face, and consequently, 372 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,359 he must, in the interest of justice and equity, be 373 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:43,319 ordered to shave off the beard he has grown, which 374 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,759 is a patent dodge and a roof. 375 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: Your honor, Your honor, the attorney of all the defendant. 376 00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: Your honor, My client, Joseph Rice likes to wear a beard. 377 00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:57,799 He thinks a beard becomes him. And I say that 378 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,359 every man has the Constitution all right, if not for 379 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:05,440 God given right to shave or not to shave, to 380 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,599 wear a beard or not to wear a beard. 381 00:23:12,079 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 4: This is a very complicated question, gentlemen. 382 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: We'll have to rule on that What is it? 383 00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 15: Gurn It's never been decided before. Could go against us 384 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,759 and we'd be licked before we start. 385 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: He can't be ordered to shave, mister Dennis. 386 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:38,079 Speaker 15: It's never been decided before. 387 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: What are we gonna do? 388 00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 10: Sir? 389 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 15: I wish I had an idea, games. 390 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: Millie, Can I talk to you any sure? 391 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:50,839 Speaker 16: Mister? 392 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 17: I see what happened, what he pulled. I'd like to 393 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,799 get up on that stand. You wouldn't, really, it would 394 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:57,359 be a pleasure. 395 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 16: Mister. 396 00:23:58,079 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 8: Can you positively identify Joey, even with his beard, as 397 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:02,400 the man who held up the Seventh Street bar? 398 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 16: I could do it if he was standing upside down? 399 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 8: Okay, Milly, prosecuting attorneys right over there. But what changed 400 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,480 your mind that. 401 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 16: Little tricky pulled on the girl being confirmed? Remember? 402 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: Sure? 403 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 16: I remember that little girl is my kid cousin, and. 404 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,519 Speaker 8: She testifies that beard or no beard was Joey Rice 405 00:24:29,559 --> 00:24:33,319 who held up that bar. You look over at patrolman 406 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,640 Matt Gains as the trial winds up, and for the 407 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,680 first time in months, a man's smiling. 408 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 3: He's a human being again, and you've got your big story. 409 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 8: Yes, but nobody knows it. Nobody knows it until now, 410 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:57,240 this very night on a radio program called The Big Story. 411 00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:02,599 Not until now, can you say, well, this is the 412 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,599 job I didn't, This is the role I played. Ted Prager, 413 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,759 Night reporter of the New York Daily News. 414 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:35,759 Speaker 2: In just a moment, we'll read you a telegram from 415 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:38,240 Ted Prager of the New York Daily News with the 416 00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:47,720 final outcome of tonight's Big Story. Now we read you 417 00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:50,599 that telegram from Ted Prager of the New York Daily News. 418 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 8: Hold up man in Tonight's Big Story was quickly convicted 419 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,799 by jury, but while awaiting sentence, he became violent was 420 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:01,680 officially declared to be insane. He was therefore transferred to 421 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,799 the Asylum A Matterjuan, where he is still confined. Many 422 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,680 thanks for tonight's Pellmell Award. 423 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, mister Prager. The makers of Pellmell Famous Cigarettes 424 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,119 are proud to have named you the winner of the 425 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,359 pell Mell five hundred dollars Award for notable service in 426 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,400 the field of journalism. 427 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 4: Listen again next week, same time, same station, when Pellmell 428 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,079 Famous Cigarettes will present another big story. A big story 429 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,319 from the pages of the Pittsburgh Press byline William A. White, 430 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,119 A Big Story that began when a taxi meter ticked 431 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,799 off moments of waiting for a man who didn't return. 432 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: The Big Story is produced by Bernard J. Proctor and 433 00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:53,240 directed by Harry Ingram, with music by part of Miss Lensky. 434 00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:57,240 To Night's program was written by Arnold Pearl. Your narrator 435 00:26:57,319 --> 00:26:59,559 was Bob Sloan, and William Quinn played the part of 436 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:03,000 Ted Prey. All names in Tonight's story except that of 437 00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:06,400 mister Prigger were fictitious, but the dramatization was based on 438 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,240 a true and authentic case. This is Ernest Chappel speaking 439 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:27,119 for the makers of Pell Mell Famous Cigarette. 440 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: This is NBC, the National Broadcasting Company. 441 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,079 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. In addition to William Quinn, the cast included 442 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,039 Wit Vernon, Francis de Sales, Everett Sloan, Jerry Lewis, Eileen Hackhart, 443 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,359 Stephen Chase, Evelyn Custer, and Will Clova. Once again, we 444 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,519 refer to the Great Story behind the Big Story website, 445 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,759 and this event actually was based on something that happened 446 00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:07,720 in nineteen fifty eight, and the actual place that was 447 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,440 robbed was a speakeasy, which made it a lucrative spot 448 00:28:12,519 --> 00:28:16,880 to hit because fundamentally they're forced to be an all 449 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:21,400 cash business. The robbers made off with eight thousand dollars, 450 00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,680 and that would be around or more than one hundred 451 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,279 thousand dollars in today's money, and in the confusion, the 452 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:32,359 police officer shot the two thought to be accomplices. The 453 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,559 robber in this case was named Frank DeMarco. The incident 454 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:42,279 is one that does really rub up against modern expectations. Today, 455 00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:46,480 a police officer shooting two armed civilians who weren't direct 456 00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:49,440 threats and without trying to give any commands would likely 457 00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:52,960 be viewed as a trigger happy cowboy cop and be 458 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:57,000 subject to criminal and civil prosecution. However, it was a 459 00:28:57,079 --> 00:29:01,839 different time when this incident occurred, and even in nineteen 460 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,480 forty eight, and it's not necessarily the same thing, because 461 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:09,279 part of the reason that we would tend to view 462 00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:14,720 the officer as some irresponsible cowboy is that doing something 463 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,920 like that is contrary to the way the police officers 464 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,160 were trained, and instead of following that training, they decided 465 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,519 to do their own thing, and people died as a result. 466 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,119 And since whenever this happened, someone will mention this. Today, 467 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:34,359 a one choice witness identification as opposed to a lineup 468 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,160 would be constitutionally iffy. At best, it might be excluded 469 00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:43,839 or the judge might end up allowing it, but with 470 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,519 some jury instructions warning about the risk of it, or 471 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:55,480 with an expert witness testifying about the unreliability of eyewitness testimony. Again, 472 00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:59,720 a really huge difference in either nineteen twenty eight or 473 00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:04,920 not teen forty eight. And the one really curious incident 474 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:08,319 about the episode didn't have much to do with the 475 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,759 focus of the series, which is the action of heroic reporters, 476 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:17,160 but the whole thing with our man growing a beard 477 00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:23,119 in hopes of avoiding identification, that wasn't a colorful invention 478 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:27,559 for this episode. DeMarco did actually do that, and the 479 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,480 judge did have to order him to shave. So yeah, 480 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,799 that was actually a very real detail of this case. 481 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,440 Listener comments and fadeback and we have some comments regarding 482 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,160 the case of the Corner Cat, and we start out 483 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,920 over on Spotify Mechanic sixty six rites. Moral of the story, 484 00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:54,200 don't turn yourself in if you're facing the electric chair. 485 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,359 Not sure why he did or if his co conspirators 486 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,720 actually helped him, seems like it would have been against 487 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,480 their interests to have him in custody and possibly cooperating. Well. 488 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:09,880 Thanks for the comment, although I think a better moral 489 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,319 might be not to start your own murder ring in 490 00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:15,839 the first place, but maybe that's a bit too narrow 491 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,519 minded in old fashion. Now, in terms of why Louis 492 00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:27,680 lepke Boukhoulter, who was the person that episode was based on, 493 00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:34,640 why he turned himself in, Daniel Meyer, writing on the 494 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,480 website the Internet Index of Tough Jus, chronicles the fact 495 00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:45,640 that was key in the establishment of Murder Incorporated, which 496 00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:53,400 was an organization of contract killers who eliminated problems for 497 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,920 the rackets. Like other gangsters. He got convicted on some 498 00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:02,319 lesser charges anti truck violations, and then he got himself 499 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:09,720 indicted for narcotics while he was essentially on the lamb 500 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,440 for the anti trust and he also started having his 501 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:19,319 men wipe out those who might be able to testify 502 00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:23,440 against him, and there was a nationwide hunt for him. 503 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,400 There were reports of him being lots of places in 504 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,920 the US overseas, even in Poland, but he was actually 505 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,079 hoting out in Brooklyn the whole time. 506 00:32:34,279 --> 00:32:35,519 Speaker 16: There were a couple. 507 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:41,519 Speaker 1: Of things that probably contributed to his surrendering. One is 508 00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:47,920 Tom Dewey the district attorney really wanted him. About a 509 00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:51,640 month before he surrendered, Dewey was trying to get the 510 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,720 City of New York to put a twenty five thousand 511 00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:59,079 dollars reward out on him, which in nineteen thirty nine 512 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,799 was a substantial sum of money. But the big thing 513 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:09,880 was the syndicate or a combination or Asmaya wrote, whatever 514 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,559 you want to call it, them ordered book Culture to 515 00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:18,160 turn himself in because all of the publicity and all 516 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,640 of the law enforcement focus around the world was making 517 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,599 it hard for so many of these criminal organizations to function. 518 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,200 And there's a theory that he was double crossed, as 519 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,240 some people told him that he would only have to 520 00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:43,480 face the federal narcotics charge, get off with a lot 521 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:47,519 sentense for that, and not have to face charges. I 522 00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:51,440 don't know about that. I don't know if you can 523 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:56,519 get to that level of organized crime being that naive. 524 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,759 But he got fourteen years for the drug crime. Then 525 00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:06,200 he got another long sentence on top of that for 526 00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:10,880 some extortion. But his road to death row didn't start 527 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:18,119 until members of Murder Incorporated decided to cooperate and help 528 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:24,039 solve the murders, including one that a Brellas would go 529 00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:30,480 ahead and testify that he overheard book Halter ordering a hit, 530 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,039 which was carried out. But like so much appreciate the comment. 531 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,920 And I have to admit that I had to actually 532 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,519 go back through the transcript for this comment. Harrison wrote 533 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,360 that anyway was a hard tonal Shiftberry, and I have 534 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,800 to admit that I didn't catch what Harrison had talked about. 535 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,880 But I went through the transcript and I found the 536 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,280 portion of the episode. Now I could replay it, but 537 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:07,159 I think I'll just give my own interpretation of the 538 00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:11,519 reading and how it reads because I missed it. But 539 00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:17,639 we'll focus on isolation. You, Walter Winshall, have a date. 540 00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:20,960 You've got a date with public Enemy number one at 541 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,760 a theater in Yonkers at seven to nine. And this 542 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,639 may be the end of the nation's biggest manhunt since 543 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:32,159 the Limberg case, or it may just be the end 544 00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:36,960 of you. New York reporter Walter Winschall. You could very 545 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,239 well end up looking like a human sieve in some 546 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,039 gutter or at the bottom of the East River, wearing 547 00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:52,559 concrete shoes. You don't know. Anyway, before you go, you 548 00:35:52,639 --> 00:36:02,480 have another dog with a jet jetkird. Oh, I mean 549 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:09,039 that is you could end up you received anyway. I mean, 550 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,559 I guess when it comes to writing narration in and 551 00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:17,320 out in terms of transition, the ideal way to follow 552 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,760 that up is you state that and then dramatic musical 553 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,960 cue and you go right to the conversation. One of 554 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,719 the challenges with narration is we don't actually need to 555 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,239 be told everything. We can as an audience gather what's 556 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,280 going on. And this is just such a great example 557 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,480 Harrison called out of less is more when it comes 558 00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:46,440 to narration. I appreciated that. I could definitely use the laugh. 559 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,679 And then we turn to our listener survey, where pastor 560 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,079 Lisa Martin and Boston writes, this is the best old 561 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:56,840 time radio detective podcasts ever. I listened to your main 562 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,920 podcast and volume three. I'm really enjoyed Richard Diamond, Reck Saunders, Boston, Blackie, 563 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,840 and of course Johnny Dollar. I love the case book 564 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,400 of Gregory Hood's on Sundays. I also enjoy your commentary 565 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,679 at the end of each episode. Keep up the great work. 566 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,400 I've been listening since twenty eleven. Well, thank you so much. 567 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,559 Appreciate you taking the time to leave the comment and 568 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,400 I have been had some issues getting the rest of 569 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,079 volume three finished, but hope to get back to that soon. Well, 570 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,000 now it is time to thank our Patreon supporter of 571 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,239 the day, and I want to thank Rick, Patreon supporter 572 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,079 since March's twenty twenty, currently supporting the podcast at the 573 00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,760 shawmus level of four dollars or more per month. Thanks 574 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,880 so much for your support, Rick, and that will do 575 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,360 it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow 576 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,480 us using your favorite podcast software. 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We 588 00:38:28,679 --> 00:38:31,599 got all the mourners out. The apartment right next to 589 00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:33,320 one are killers in two A. 590 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,519 Speaker 7: You sure he's in there? 591 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,559 Speaker 3: Probably him? Danny description fits. 592 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:51,599 Speaker 7: Let's find open up, Open up, This is the police. 593 00:38:51,840 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 20: Yeah. Hey, those windows over there, Danny, open, screen's been 594 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,280 kicked out. 595 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:05,559 Speaker 3: Come on. 596 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,519 Speaker 7: The killer left this apartment in a hurry. 597 00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 21: These windows lead to a fire escape. He could have 598 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,239 gone out this window onto the fire escape into the 599 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,079 next apartment, Danny. 600 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:21,639 Speaker 22: Let's find out. Yeah, must have done it this way. 601 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,840 The screen's on this apartment have been knocked out too. 602 00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:28,480 Let's go see them. 603 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 20: This is the Morgan apartment, Danny with the Morgan grandmother. 604 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,639 Want me to look around? 605 00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 22: So appearances, muggavin. I'm guessing our man walked out with 606 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,719 the mourners and got lost. Must have made him happy. 607 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime. 608 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,159 Send your comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives dot nett, 609 00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:51,960 follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 610 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,440 out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com slash Great Detectives from 611 00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:01,679 Voici Ataho. 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