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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. Guys, I hope you enjoyed our last episode.

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We are here today with a special guest, the real

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KD himself, Kevin Davis. How's it going, Kevin, I'm da

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thank y'all for having me.

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Speaker 2: Hy as Charlie Fans.

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Speaker 1: So, Kevin is a friend of mine. We had his

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grandson whose name is Haylen. Yes that's right after Van Halen. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 1: He was wrestling at the same place that my kids

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were taking wrestling lessons at and Kevin saw me at

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a restaurant and was like, hey, you get kids your

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wrestle and friendship was born at that moment because we

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both started talking about rock songs and now we're here

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getting to talk about it on our podcast.

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Speaker 3: It's all right. Kevin's been a long time listener and

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a contributor or Patreon to our podcast, to our efforts here.

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If you want to be like Kevin, just go to

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patreon dot com slash Shirly Podcast money We'll spend awesome.

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Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we are here today to talk about an

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album of nineteen eighty eight because we're doing our Summer

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of eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: Before you do that, Before you do that, I just

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want to do a quick recap. We've spent some time

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in the summer of nineteen eighty eight and we are

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about to come to its conclusion here. This summer, we've

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covered the movie Big Yep. We've covered Living Colors Vivid

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Album Yep. We've covered Poisons, Open Up and Say Oh

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I'm both released on the same day, May third, nineteen

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eighty eight. We've covered the Great Outdoors. We re released

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the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, George Michael's Faith album in excessus

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Kick album. We've got Long Cold Winter for you today.

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We've got ou eight one to two by Van Halen

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coming up next week. We've already done die Hard and

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coming to America.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget Twins.

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Speaker 3: Twins was December of night.

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Speaker 1: Yagadaec and we've also covered Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

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Speaker 3: You have to find that on the docum Base seventy

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seven podcast. That's definitely heart of summer of eighty eight.

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So we've got a pretty good Summer of eighty eight

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thing going. And on our Worst Sequels of the eighties,

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we will discuss a movie from the summer of eighty eight,

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I promise.

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Speaker 1: So we get the worst sequels of the eighties coming

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up pretty soon. Yes, So that episode was inspired by

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an episode we did with the pop Culture Yearbook, which

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we covered the best sequels of the eighties and nineties. Right,

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so go check that one out as well.

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Speaker 3: That was fun.

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Speaker 1: That's fun episode. It was like a draft.

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Speaker 3: It was football draft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a different format. Well, I liked it.

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Speaker 3: Brad Pete and Giff Good Buddy's over at the pop

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Culture Yearbook.

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Speaker 1: Is Gift named out? No, he was my age, so

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he wouldn't have been named after like the Kathy Lee Gifford. No,

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I was thinking, wasn't Gift the name of Biff's character

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in like part in Back to the Future Part two?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Griff, Griff?

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Speaker 1: That's yeah Griff.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, cool. So we'll take a wish and a

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prayer across our fingers because we always get by long

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cold winner by Cinderella.

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Speaker 1: Right. So, I was saying, I'm not taking you back

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to eighty eight. I'm gonna take you back to eighty six.

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But I'm not gonna take you back to nineteen eighty six.

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I'll take you back to eighteen eighty six. I know

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you love it what I do, which is when Lena

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Blackburn was born. Lena was a professional baseball player, a manager,

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and an inventor. And let me ask you this, is

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there ever a situation where you want your balls to

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be rough instead of being smooth? I can't think of you.

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I think I'm going into a manscape pad.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 1: The answer to the question is you want them to

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be rough whenever you are a baseball pitcher, because if

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they're too smooth, it's too hard. Well, Lena Blackburn is

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the guy who invented the mud that they could use

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to rough up baseballs so that they were rough instead

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of smooth. He did that in nineteen thirty eight when

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he was a third base coach and one of the

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umpires was complaining when they would rub him in the

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dirt on the field that made them all dirty and ugly,

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And so he found the perfect grain of dirt in

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some New Jersey river.

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Speaker 3: It's this hidden. It's like a secret in baseball. They

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really knows where this is.

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Speaker 1: It has been passed down from generation and relatives and friends,

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and the guy still has it a secret. You know,

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I go and I find this stuff, and if people

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ask me about it, I'm like, oh, this is just

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from my garden. You know, he will not tell and

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he has to get about one thousand pounds a year

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of it, So it's not that big of a deal.

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But there's literally a Major League rule that says the

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ball has to be properly rubbed so that the gloss

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is removed. Andlena Blackburn is the guy who did this

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in nineteen thirty eight. Now why am I telling you

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about that?

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Speaker 3: Why are you telling us much?

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Speaker 1: Well, because Lena Blackburn was from Clifton Heights, Philadelphia, Okay,

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which is where fifty years later, two guys who were

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also from Clifton Heights recorded an album called Long Cold Winter,

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and those two guys were Tom Keefer and Eric Brittingham.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 1: So those two guys being from the same place, same

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place in Philadelphia's seb over Philadelphia, and they get together.

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They'd been in bands before. Tom was in a band

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where he would do cover songs. But he thought, you

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know what, Stones they do their own songs. Zeppelin, they

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do their own songs. I want to get together with

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some guys and we're going to do our own music.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what His cover band was called, tell

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Me Saints in Hell.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought that was kind of a clear name, creative.

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Speaker 3: It's Saints in Hell.

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Speaker 1: It's very bad medicine or love a bad name, all

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those juxtaposed ideas.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's the Desmond child. Opposites go together.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, Unfortunately, he got kind of addicted to drugs and

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alcohol when he was in high school and he almost

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dropped out. Yes, but his mom made a deal with him,

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if you get through high school, I will buy you

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the pinnacle of guitars, a Gibson less Paul, which brings

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me to our guest today, mister Kevin Davis, who has

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created for me a less Paul like guitar. I gave

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him one of my less Paul like guitars and I said, hey,

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can you make this good? And he went, yeah, I

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could do that. And then after a few weeks he

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was like, that guitar is so crappy. It's just no way.

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And then finally, after several weeks of frustration, he was like,

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you know what, I've I've figured out how to make

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it good. And I said, okay, good, and he goes

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I'm buying you a new one. And so he bought

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me a new one. And then after working on the

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new one, it's like everything relaxed, and he fixed the

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old one too. So my good friend made me two

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guitars that are incredibly beautiful. If you guys have a

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desire for a custom made beautiful whether less Paul style

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or something else, hit us up at Shirleypodcast at gmail

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dot com and I'll put you in touch with Kevin Davis,

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who could make you some beautiful Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Don't give you too much credit though, turns out Kevin

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Ken paulish a turn exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Well, wait a minute now, I want to I want

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to stop you for just a second, because I'm not

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a guitar guy. Tell me about the Gibson less Paul

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because I know nothing. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Why is that important?

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Speaker 1: Les Paul is kind of the guy who created the

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standard for electric guitars.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so is this a one hundred dollars guitar? Is

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this one thousand dollars guitar?

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Speaker 1: Probably at least a five thousand dollars guitar new Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 4: The body style, the just the electronics and would they

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use And the shape of it just has a very

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unique tone to it that you cannot replicate with you know.

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Speaker 1: A Fender.

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Speaker 4: A Fender stratocaster is very very similar in a way

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that the body, its body style in body shape and

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electronics give it a unique style. But for rock musicians,

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a lot of rock musicians prefer the less Paul. It

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is the as de said, is the cream of the

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crop for rock guitarist.

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Speaker 1: So after high school he's got his less Paul guitar.

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He's trying to make it as a musician, but that's

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a difficult task. He has side jobs of walking horses

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at racetracks and delivering film to developing outlets nice hey,

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whatever it takes, right right, But eventually he and Eric

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Brittingham get together. They get together with a couple of

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guys named Michael Shermick and Tony Destra and they formed

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the band Cinderella.

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Speaker 3: Now, before you go any further, in nineteen eighty three,

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Cinderella was discovered by a established rock star. Yeah, now,

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nothing happened from this, but still, Gene Simmons of Kiss

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was the first guy who said, you guys got to

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be on a label. Somewhow Wait, you guys got to

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be making albums. Let's get this going.

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Speaker 1: This is not the first time we've heard this story. Interestingly,

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we've heard this story before with Van Halen, who we

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are comparing to Cinderella for this particular matchup. That's right,

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how about that new version of van Halen, not the

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old version of van Halen, but still Gene Simmons tried

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with both bands to make something happen and couldn't convince

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the A and R guys.

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Speaker 3: He wanted to change them their name to Daddy Longlegs.

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Speaker 1: That was van Halen.

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Speaker 1: So ultimately, though, another rock musician heard them playing at

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the Empire Rock Club, and that is mister John bon Jovie,

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who will come up here in a little while, I.

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Speaker 3: Think, yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: And he said, I saw Tommy Keefer on stage delivering

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some pretty nifty, growling vocals, and then he whipped out

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this less Paul and proceeded to lay into some astounding sounds.

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The guy struck me as a star right then and there.

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So he talks to his A and R man, Derek Shulman,

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who's a fantastic guitarist himself, and Shulman's like, ah, I

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don't know that they're ready to be signed yet. Let's

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do like a six month development deal with them. But

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they negotiated and ended up signing with PolyGram Records.

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Speaker 3: So you know, bon Jovi, Jamo Jovi, and Richie Sambora

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end up in the video for Somebody Save Me, and

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so they kind of repay the favor. They're kind of

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endorsing Cinderella, and they actually toured with bon Jovi on

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the Slippery When Wet tour in nineteen eighty six. Hang on,

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before we go any further, we have to talk about

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Pat's Chili Dogs. Okay, this is gonna blow your socks off. Okay, ready,

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all right, have you seen their first music video for

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Pat's Chili Dogs? No, okay, before I show this commercial

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to you, guys. So here's the story with this. So

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there's a local business owner who had a chili dog store,

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who is a fan and rock music, and it came

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and in one night he saw Cinderella perform and he's like, Hey,

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guess what, guys, I've got a chili dog stand and

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I want you guys to make the commercial for me.

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And he goes, here's the deal. I am a local

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MTV advertiser, so it only shows here in the Philadelphia area,

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but it will be shown on the channel that shows

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music television. And so Tom Keefer is like, well, it's

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not MTV, but it's pretty darn close. So let's do it.

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Pat's Chili Dogs check it out.

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Speaker 1: How about out that open twenty four hours when you're hungry,

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We're ready.

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Speaker 3: Tom keepers said that they were opened late and so

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they got free food anytime they wanted, so after the

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gigs they would always swing by Pat's Dogs and grab

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chili dogs. I mean the life of a rock star, right,

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free chili dogs.

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Speaker 1: So we got to put this in. We gotta find

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find our category to put this in because we've obviously

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got Brian Johnson doing the Hoover vacuum commercial. Yeah, We've

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got David Coverdale doing what was it Seltzer water commercials,

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that's right, and now we've got Cinderella doing chili dog commercials.

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Come on, it makes me want to have chila dog

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eat and drink and clean up afterwards. That's great, man,

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that's great.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, as I mentioned initially, the lineup included Michael Shermick

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and Tony Destra. But in eighty five, just before they

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sign they left the band.

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Speaker 3: Sad they quote unquote left the band. Yeah, okay, So

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here's the story. Derek Shulman, who was the talent guy

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from PolyGram, John bo Jovi's talent guy, he came at

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bon Jovi's request, watched him and he said, Okay, the

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singer star, the guy with blonde hair really good. The

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other two guys suck, right, Yeah, And so he went

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to Tom Keefer and he's like, listen, you got to

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get rid of these two guys. And so Tom Keefer said,

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I saw him interviewed about this. He said, if I

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didn't agree with what he said, I would have fought

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for them. But I agreed with him. They weren't up

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to par musically. So he had that hard conversation, said guys,

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you got to go. So he kicked him out. But

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he also said, to their credit, they went and established

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themselves in another band, and that band is Britney Fox.

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He freaking Fox.

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Speaker 1: Tell me your favorite Britney Fox song easily long Way

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to Long Way to Love Summer of eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: And then, I mean everybody pretty much knows Girls School

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that's probably the most famous one, but for me, it's

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a long way to love. But I had that album.

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I mean, they were created as a colone of Cinderella,

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and you know what, it's dead on. It never occurred

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to me, but they are a poor man's Cinderella.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I do recall that they did example Tom Keeper

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a lot.

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Speaker 1: So they end up replacing them. Guitarist becomes Jeff Lebar

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and drummer becomes Jeff Dernick. Okay, and they record their

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debut album Night Songs.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so you skip something that's really major.

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I gotta tell you, I'm waiting to drop this bomb

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on you. Okay. So I told you guys that there's

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two major bands that were influenced by the formation of Cinderella.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So Tom Keefer fires two guys. They go on, they

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create Brittany Fox. So that created a vacancy for a

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drummer and a guitarist. So Tom Keeper's looking for guitarists.

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He's also friends with John bon Jovi. John by Jovi's

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not gonna givehim Richie sam Moora. But he does have

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a friend who's a guitarist from the old neighborhood. Oh

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no way, do you remember his name.

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Speaker 1: So is this Dave Sable of skid Row.

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Speaker 3: Dave Snake Sabo of skid Row was almost the guitarist

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in Cinderell. Uh huh Okay, So here's the story. So

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obviously bon Jovi's stepping in giving him a help, helping hand,

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so they feel loyalty to John Well. John's friend is

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Dave Snake Sabo, right, and they're like, Okay, we need

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to look hard at this guy because he's friends with

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John and you know he can play, and he's a

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good singer, songwriter, whatever. And so it comes down to

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him and Jeff Lebar and so they auditioned both guys

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and here's the thing that that was the clincher. Snake

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Sabo would not leave them alone. He called him like

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every day like am I in, am I in, am

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I in, am I in I mean, And they're finally like,

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this guy's gonna wear us out. So they're like, we

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can't have this guy. He's gonna drive us crazy. So

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that is what caused them to say, Jeff Lebar, you're

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in Sorry Snake Sabo, see you later, which he said

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was the best thing in the world because at that

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moment he's like, I was so desperate to get into

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an established band. He's like, I realized I just need

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to go start my own band, and that freaking gives

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us skid row.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good story, dude, very nice. So they

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do Night Songs. They roll through a few different guitarists

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and drummers. One of the guys, Fred Curry, joins the band,

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was in all of the music videos and the tours,

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and then totally misses out on everything else.

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Speaker 3: He's not on the album. That blows my mind, Like,

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how do you get in a band and you're never

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participating in the album. You know who was on the

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album though, Denny Carmassi, who is the guy from Heart

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and Cozy Powell, which we talked about in our White

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Snake episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Cozy is one of Jeff Buckley's favorites.

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Speaker 3: So is Denny Kramasi. Yeah, Jase Buckley, there you go, buddy, drummers,

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we're learning right.

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Speaker 4: Has been with many established bands throughout the years. Yeah,

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Bet Group, Rainbow, Black Sabbath, White Snakes.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, Yeah, I mean he's a star drummer, right,

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He's a star drummer exactly.

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Speaker 1: So they end up touring to support Night Songs. They

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tour with Poison and they're opening up for a Japanese

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heavy metal band. Did you guys know this?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: They opened for them, and Poison open for a Japanese

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heavy metal band called Loudness. They continue touring through eighty seven.

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These guys love touring. I watched the video with them

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and they were like, the saddest day of the tour

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was the day we pulled into the last hotel at

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the last show, because we knew this was this was

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the end of it. Yeah, which is different. I mean,

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most of the guys, like Van Halen, they were ready

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to kill each other at the end of their tour,

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right right, But these guys I love touring together. They

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open for Loudness they did then end up opening for

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David Lee Roth after that.

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Speaker 3: How about that? It's crazy the Van Halen connection.

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Speaker 1: And then they, like you said, they open for bon

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Jovi on their Slippery When Wet tour. Then finally they

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come back and they are ready to do their second album,

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which is what we're here to discuss today, Boys and girls,

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Long Cold Winner.

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Speaker 3: Okay, before we get to Long Cold Winner, I got

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to ask you, guys, did you hear the story with

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David Lee Roth on tour for Night Songs. No Okay.

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So Davily Roth has left van Halen, and of course

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his ego is the size of you know, New York

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City or whatever, and Cinderella is surging in popularity while

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David Lee Roth is kind of a little stagnant, not

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quite establishing himself that quickly off of Van Halen, and

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so Cinderella starts to kind of pass him in popularity

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as the opening band, and so David Lee Roth starts

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to put all these restrictions on what they can and

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can't do as the opening band. So one of them

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was that you can't engage the crowd. And Tom Keefer's like,

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what are you talking about, dude, Like this is nuts,

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Like you can't go hey Cleveland, how are you guys

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do it? Like you can't do that. This is the

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type of weird craft that David Ly Roth with you, right, right.

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So that was an interesting time. They learned a lot,

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They learned what not to do as a headliner. Bon

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Jovi treated them great, and so they try to treat

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others well, unlike the way they were treated from Davily Roth.

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Speaker 1: Nice well. So this this album, their second album, was

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a definite turn from the first album. Right Night Songs

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comes out and it is full glam metal. Right So

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Tom Keefer said, this was new and exciting to us,

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and basically when we heard what the polished recordings sound like,

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we're blown away because our demos just sucked, you know.

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So it was kind of this, Wow, this is amazing.

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But after a few months and years go by, he's like, you,

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I kind of want less polished. I don't want this,

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you know, clean loud, full fat sound. I want it

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more bluesy, more authentic, more raw. And you definitely get

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that with Long Cold Winter, for sure. But I told

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you guys, this was not an album that was in

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my wheelhouse in nineteen eighty eight. Eighty eight is the

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year that I started listening to all of the old

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seventies stuff. I started listening to Zeppelin and Skinnered and

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all these other things. And so I was familiar with

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Cinderella because of MTV and because I don't know what

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you got. But this was not an album in my wheelhouse.

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And so when it was time to do this, I'm

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sure you remember, I put I put it on, and

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I first three songs, I called you up and I

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was like this is fan freaking fantastic, fantastic. I was amazed.

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I'm so glad that we were doing this because I

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love this album.

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Speaker 3: That's so great. I'm so glad to hear that. And

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I could have called it, like I told myself, I'm like,

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he's gonna love this album. Absolutely yeah. And in fact,

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I think I know the song. There's one song on

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this album. I'm like, Okay, that's off the Beaten track

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and it's gonna blow these socks off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll.

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Speaker 3: Get to we'll talk about it now, Kevin, Did you

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own this album?

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Speaker 2: I did first CD I ever owned, Is that right?

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I did?

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Speaker 4: I bought it the same day I bought my first

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CD player. They didn't have much of a selection, but

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they did have Long Cold Winter. I'd been a fan

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of Night Song, so I bought the album, took it home,

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put it in, and the song that you're about to

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talk about is totally blew me away.

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Speaker 1: You said you had roommates this time, right, I.

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Speaker 4: Had two roommates and I put it on and cranked

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it up, and they were in there saying, who's this?

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This is great?

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Speaker 3: So I mean, let's are we ready to dive it?

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Speaker 1: I think that's the answer.

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Speaker 3: That's a great interesting Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Time to jump into the album, so stick it in

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song number one.

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Speaker 3: The song's called bad Seamstress Blues, or you might know

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it has fallen apart of the scenes. I ain't got

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no one to calm out.

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Speaker 1: I say, I'm gonna win. I got just a little

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bit old un all I got come on gone. So

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I think that I probably felt the same way that

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everybody who had heard Night Songs felt when they put

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this in and listened to it the first time, and

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we're like, what is this? What is this? Is this

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Robert Johnson, what are we listening to here? This is

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a dough bro. This is not a Gibson lest Paul.

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This is not a hard Marshall stack. This is an

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acoustic dough bro blues with a harmonica and a I

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don't even know what the it's like mouth harp. Yeah,

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Oh my gosh, I was My mind was blown.

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Speaker 3: It blew my hair back, Like I'm like, what is

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this coming out of my speakers? It's that slow build.

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You got the slide guitar, you got the little tap

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of the drums, you get the harmonica, and then you

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start to get that that beat right, you just boom, boom, boom,

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and then the guitar comes in. I just fell out

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of my chair. It's freaking amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely how you start an album.

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Speaker 1: That's right and if and if you know, I want

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to do blue stuff, but I also want to speak

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to the guys who bought whatever, fifty thousand night songs

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a week for months on end. Then you say let's

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go boys, and you come in with that blasting guitar.

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Speaker 3: It's freaking amazing. It's blues, it's rock, it's hard rock.

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But this whole album has got a very sort of

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Mississippi blues feel to it and yet stays true to

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its rock roots. So absolutely, the word that I saw

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described best for this song, I thought it was a

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word titanic. This is a kick in the teeth coming

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out of the gate. I freaking loves a song.

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Speaker 1: So this. You remember when we talked about Back in Black,

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that last song on the album that I said, Hey,

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this is the one that these guys do something different,

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They do something varied, right. What I love about this

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album is that this is varied right out of the

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gate from what they had done before, but then they

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still give you They give you little taste of the

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blues and the beauty of his lyrics. I mean, he's

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got some depth that I was expecting stuff like Poison

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and Motley Crue were writing back then, not the deep

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emotional lyrics. It kicks me in the teeth.

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00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: Like you said, that might be the perfect comparison. So

473
00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:09,720
rock and roll ain't noise pollution. This song's very asy dcye.

474
00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:12,240
You know what a great comparison, you know.

475
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: Very good.

476
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:14,039
Speaker 1: What do you think?

477
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,759
Speaker 4: I love the song more the probably the most catching

478
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,079
song to me on the album. Very underrated, underappreciated, but

479
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,480
those that have heard it, I'm sure ninety percent of

480
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:27,119
the will love it.

481
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have one small thing that bugs me about

482
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,559
this song. Okay, one small thing. Okay, what's the title

483
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:40,000
of the song? Is that bad seamstress blues? Or is

484
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,240
it falling apart of the seams?

485
00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,279
Speaker 4: I think the intro is bad Seamstress blues. In the

486
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,200
once it starts rocking, it's falling apart at the same.

487
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:50,559
Speaker 3: Okay, that bugs me. Let's just call it one thing

488
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,440
and let's kick it in the teeth and go down

489
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,039
the road. You know.

490
00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:55,799
Speaker 1: So I was Kevin when he was talking to me

491
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:58,160
about this album, said that he would listen to the

492
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,680
first three songs over and over again. And I think

493
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,839
you were saying you listen to bad Seamstress Blues Falling

494
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,519
Apart at the Seams and Gypsy wrote like that was

495
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,480
that was where one two like one, two and three

496
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:11,240
like one is really one and two.

497
00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: Right right right right, So I don't know, It's just

498
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,559
a little personal thing. Yeah, very much a tone setter

499
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,519
for the album too.

500
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one when it when it started going, it

501
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,200
took me back to some of the stuff that Jimmy

502
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,920
Page was doing when he was with led Zeppelin. That's

503
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,640
he would do a slide frequently, and this one definitely

504
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,759
he was jumping on that because I know that Keifer

505
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,319
is a huge led Zeppelins fan.

506
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,799
Speaker 3: You know, you talk about it. The producer of this

507
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,559
album is Andy Johns. Yeah, and I mean he worked

508
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:42,640
on led Zebelin four.

509
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he worked. He worked with led Zeppelin, Hero of Theirs,

510
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:50,200
Rolling Stones, Hero of Theirs. Now obviously he had been

511
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,000
with them already on Night Songs. He had produced that one, right,

512
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,839
but then after this album he goes on to produce

513
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,079
for Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and Live Right Here. Right now.

514
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: So we're going to talk about that next week because

515
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,920
I definitely, yeah, I definitely think that. The Van Halen

516
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,400
Boys said we want an album. This sounds like long

517
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,759
cold winner, Yeah, and they hired Andy Johnson. By the way,

518
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720
I couldn't find the story on this. Tom Keeper says

519
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,960
Andy Johns was brilliant, but he was nuts, like he

520
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:21,839
was crazy. He said, like we were worried about our

521
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,880
safety at times, okay, And I was like, man, I

522
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,119
gotta find out more about this. Couldn't find it. Huh So.

523
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,319
But he did tell them that everyone, at one point

524
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,400
or another that they all sucked, so sometimes you need that, right, Yeah.

525
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: And you motivated people in different ways, right.

526
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: He said. Andy Johns told him that during one take,

527
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,680
he you know, pressed the call button and said Thomas.

528
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:48,480
He called him Thomas, which I thought that was fine.

529
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,839
He said, Thomas. What we're going for here is when

530
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:54,079
they get to the end of the record, that they'll

531
00:27:54,079 --> 00:28:00,720
want to pick up and start it over. They were like, okay,

532
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,039
thank you, Okay, we're done.

533
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 5: With this one.

534
00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:08,279
Speaker 1: Yes, let's move on to song number two.

535
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: Song number two. This song is called Gypsy Road.

536
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:29,319
Speaker 1: Some fast Talking Mama for a dollar put a smile

537
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,200
on my face. Tell me that that is not borrowed

538
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,960
from Aerosmith. Oh yeah, I love it. This is a

539
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,039
great song about being on the road and missing being

540
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,319
home and not being able to go home. I'm always

541
00:28:42,319 --> 00:28:43,519
on the road and never going home.

542
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:46,119
Speaker 3: Two songs in a row. My hair is blown back.

543
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:49,319
It's just blown me away. The strength of these songs

544
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:56,400
right off the bat.

545
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:06,079
Speaker 4: The song it still stands the test of time today.

546
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:11,200
It could come out today, but it's very reminiscent of Barrowsmith.

547
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:14,599
The song could have also easily been slid right onto

548
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,960
Night Songs and we'll put in with the songs of

549
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:17,559
that autum.

550
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: It is definitely more of the metal sound than the

551
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:21,519
first song. Yeah for sure.

552
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:24,359
Speaker 3: So this was the first single, so I don't think

553
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,279
we said it. The album came out in July fifth

554
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,200
of nineteen eighty eight, so we're dead center summer of

555
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,759
eighty eight. Drop this video in this single first it

556
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,599
only reaches number fifty one, Are you kidding me? At

557
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:39,680
the peak of hair metal, only fifty I don't know

558
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,000
what they were looking for, but this song is deserves better.

559
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,359
It's underappreciated, Yes, sir. This was their opening track for

560
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,519
the muscow Piece Festival, and we've talked about that a

561
00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:49,039
few times.

562
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's interesting. You can watch the video on YouTube,

563
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:57,400
but it's got this probably nearly two minute long introduction

564
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:01,720
that's not on the song, that is synthesizer strings playing

565
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:07,400
while Tom Kiefer is singing, and you've got this gigantic

566
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,440
stadium full of these Soviet citizens who are getting to

567
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,519
watch rock, real rock music for the first time, all

568
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:19,559
just banging their head even though it's like strings playing.

569
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,720
And then when the other guys come out and the

570
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,839
song begins with the full blast of the guitar and

571
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,400
the drums, get this aerial shot. You can see the

572
00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:33,680
entire stadium fluctuate with passion as they're like, oh my gosh,

573
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:35,279
here it is, here's the rock.

574
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually rented that the night that it dropped.

575
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,400
We pay per viewed it and me and my friends

576
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,799
we pay per viewed the Muscopiece Festival and we loved it.

577
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:45,279
Speaker 1: It was great.

578
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,119
Speaker 3: So I gotta ask you, have you guys seen the

579
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,720
music video recently for Gypsy Road? Now, Okay, so it's

580
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:55,839
shot in and around Cantcu, Mexico.

581
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:57,559
Speaker 1: So the director of the video is a guy named

582
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,599
Nick Morris, he's done a ton of videos. The one

583
00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:02,559
he did right before this one was Carrie by Europe. Yes,

584
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,160
and then he's like, hey, we're gonna go down to

585
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,599
kan Kun, which sounds like a great plan, except that

586
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,519
it's the middle of summer.

587
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: It is one hundred and twenty degrees one hundred percent humidity.

588
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, it's okay because we're going to film

589
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,480
on like the cheech needs the pyramid, so it's gonna

590
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,319
be fantastic right right now.

591
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: They get down there and they're like, no, you can't

592
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,880
film here. What are you talking about.

593
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: You're like, you've got a contract.

594
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,079
Speaker 3: See the signature right here, see we sign it. Yeah, no,

595
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:32,119
can't do it. So while there the heads are working

596
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,839
it out, one guy grabs a camera and it's just

597
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,359
like gorilla filming, and so everything you see in the

598
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,359
video with Chitsanitza, it's one guy running with a camera

599
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,279
over here, Hey, grab your guitar, hand play real quick,

600
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:46,240
and they kind of stitch it together.

601
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. So you guys distract him. We're gonna take

602
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,400
the good drummer and the bass player over here for

603
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,000
a few minutes.

604
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 3: Hey, i've been to chits Aita and they don't want

605
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,440
you freaking touching that. I'll tell you that, No, they don't.

606
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hot one I went to freaking out.

607
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: Here's the interesting thing too, I've never really understood this,

608
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:09,000
but Nick Morris, the video director, was given ten days

609
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:11,880
to come up with two videos. So they fly to

610
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,359
Mexico shoot this, and then immediately they fly to northern

611
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,640
California to shoot the next song.

612
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about far northern California. Yeah, like

613
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:24,960
where you've gone from one hundred and twenty degrees to

614
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:27,000
like zero degree.

615
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: Like freezing your butt off.

616
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,119
Speaker 1: So that brings us to song number three, probably the

617
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:37,400
most famous song of the band, Don't know what you

618
00:32:37,519 --> 00:33:11,079
got til it's gone. Heartagges come and go, and all

619
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:16,000
that's left are the wounds. If you happen to break

620
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:21,279
up with somebody between late eighty eight nineteen ninety one,

621
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480
chances are this song came on the radio and you

622
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:25,200
started crying.

623
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: This is definitely on the Makeout list of eighty eight man,

624
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:35,440
make Out, break Up, get Back Together list.

625
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, so let me cheer up, just thinking

626
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,599
remember that girl, Hey.

627
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: You remember Genie Alexander, our friend of the show Patreon.

628
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,000
Remember Jeanie Alexander said, if this is not on your

629
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:48,319
best of eighty eight, you're.

630
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,359
Speaker 1: Doing it Rockau.

631
00:33:50,359 --> 00:34:11,079
Speaker 3: Remember we did our best of eighty eight list.

632
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,519
Speaker 1: Well, that was my fault. I should have had that.

633
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:14,960
I should have had this one on there. I don't

634
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,079
know how it I think. I think what I thought

635
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,199
was we're going to be covering the whole album soon,

636
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,719
and I'm going to leave it for that. But I

637
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,719
will say this, this is the song that I knew

638
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,559
from the album before listening to it for this episode.

639
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:32,199
I felt like maybe Seamstress Blues was going to overcome it.

640
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,960
But there's too much nostalgia. It's still my favorite song

641
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,079
on the album, but there are a whole lot of

642
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,079
songs that I am so happy that I know now

643
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:42,320
because of this episode. So yeah, awesome, Ken, What do

644
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:42,559
you think?

645
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: I love this song?

646
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 4: I thought it was a lyrically and musically it was

647
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,360
it gave you everything you wanted in the song, and

648
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:51,599
the video was pretty cool. Didn't realize it was in

649
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,360
northern California. Just recall him sitting with waves crashing.

650
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,119
Speaker 1: So in the in the tour after that, you know,

651
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:01,039
when they do their fourteen month long tour for this album. Afterwards,

652
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:04,960
they would start the show with him being lowered down

653
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,079
playing a white piano playing.

654
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,639
Speaker 3: This song lowered from the ceiling. Yeah, awesome. The eighties

655
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:12,639
were so freaking awesome.

656
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: Nobody flies anymore.

657
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,159
Speaker 3: So sweet soul, full vocals. Right, you have the guitar solo.

658
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,199
That's awesome.

659
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,519
Speaker 1: Can we just talk for a second about the fact

660
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:31,039
that Tom Kuefort is so so good at the guitar,

661
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:35,079
and then he's got this voice, I mean, like Brian Johnson,

662
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:36,400
Like I said, like, that's what I think of is

663
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,119
Brian Johnson? Yeah, Yeah, he could have done any AC

664
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,440
DC song and I would have known the difference. But

665
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,880
he's at the time was able to go from that rough, rough,

666
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,159
screamy voice to these beautiful like you can't even tell

667
00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,039
it's the same guy. It's so good. And then he's

668
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:58,199
also a blisteringly good guitarist.

669
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: His guitar work is amazing.

670
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, ry talent.

671
00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:06,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, and bring the strings in anytime you add strings

672
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,039
to the rock ballad I want to cry?

673
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:09,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, breaks your heart.

674
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 3: So this song was the second single. It peaked at

675
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:20,280
number twelve on the Hot one hundred What Yes, what

676
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,480
only number twelve would you like to hear the eleven

677
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,679
better songs than this?

678
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,159
Speaker 1: I gotta tell people. I gotta tell people this, right,

679
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:34,719
So I see number twelve and immediately my mind goes to, Okay,

680
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,480
Jason's gonna give us the eleven songs that were better

681
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,440
than song. So we got here today and You're like, oh,

682
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,400
I don't have my list, and Kevin's like I know them.

683
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that was awesome.

684
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: I looked them up.

685
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: Well, Kevin, do you want to go through the list?

686
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, all right.

687
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: So number eleven, I Don't Want Your Love by Duran Duran.

688
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:00,199
Then number ten, we've got one moment in time. I'm

689
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,360
by Whitney Houston, I mean makes every n cuaa tournament.

690
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,119
Then you have look Away by Chicago. It's pretty good, right,

691
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,559
how can I fall?

692
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: By Breathe?

693
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: These are these are makeout songs? Right, Kissing the Fool

694
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:18,039
by George Michael. This is a lot of making That's

695
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:19,199
a d favorite right there.

696
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: It is very jazzy, but I love it.

697
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: We have Baby I Loved Your Way by Wilt Power

698
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,199
with the free Bird breakdown in the middle.

699
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,639
Speaker 1: Right, we when did we talk? We talked about that recently.

700
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:33,679
Speaker 3: What we did uh, what was that it was? It

701
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,559
was opened up and say, I think it was one

702
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:39,159
it was, yeah, one of those albums. Then you have

703
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,159
Kokomo by the Beach Boys, Deaf Dave's favorite song of

704
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:42,559
all time.

705
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,079
Speaker 1: Right.

706
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: Then you have Desire by You Two.

707
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: Okay, these are I mean, these are some big hitters.

708
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,159
I'm not complaining yet, Okay.

709
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: Locomotion by Kylie Minogue, well okay, Easy on the Eyes, yeah,

710
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Wild Wide West by Escape Club one of these best

711
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,880
of eighty anal mentions. Yeah, and then Bad Medicine by Bonjovi.

712
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean those are all really good. That

713
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,639
Doubt list, right, that is a strong list.

714
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: There.

715
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: There were songs on there that I don't like as

716
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,119
well as the song, but it's they're still prettying good.

717
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. So just talking about the video shot at Golden Hour,

718
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,559
when you look at it, it's all gold and purples,

719
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,679
and so they talked about how they definitely always shot

720
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,480
at dawn and dusk. They also talked about how the

721
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:31,559
aerial shots they had a Vietnam bed who had access

722
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,960
to a helicopter that the first day when the helicopter

723
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,880
didn't work, he's like, no problem, we'll just jump it.

724
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:41,000
So they jump started the helicopter.

725
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: Does that make you worry at all? You're about to

726
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,960
get on a helicopter and they're like, okay, get out

727
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,679
the jumper.

728
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: Cable, he said. They were always like, is the helicopter

729
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:54,559
doing okay? And then of course the shoot was very,

730
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:02,079
very cold. Go from Cancun blistering hot to Monoway, California.

731
00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:05,159
Speaker 1: Freaking freezing mont of Lake by the way, formed seven

732
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,119
hundred and fifty thousand years ago. Thank you just had

733
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:12,239
that bit of information in my head. Yeah, it is

734
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,519
known for its a lot of marine life, including Brian Shrump.

735
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,639
I don't know what are you talking about it. I'm

736
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:23,840
just telling you Mono Lake.

737
00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Kevin, you got any kind of trivia on Mono Lake.

738
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: Force, First time I've heard of it?

739
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:39,119
Speaker 3: All right? Three tracks in We've got Killer, Killer Killer,

740
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:40,480
Are we right?

741
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:41,159
Speaker 1: For track four?

742
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: This fourth song on the album, This song is called

743
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,679
the Last Mile.

744
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,679
Speaker 1: Well, this one starts off with a theme that was

745
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,639
pretty popular in nineteen eighty eight, doing a twelve string

746
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:15,400
guitar intro to jump right into a nice heavy, crunchy

747
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,079
guitar arpeggio.

748
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 3: Hey I've learned something. Yeah, it's a great This is

749
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,039
a great rock song. This is not as bluesy, but

750
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:29,440
this song's great too. This we're four tracks in. I'm

751
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:29,840
loving it.

752
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

753
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,599
Speaker 3: Well this was a single, right it was. This reached

754
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:35,679
number thirty six one d. This is the third single

755
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,679
ken What do you think, man?

756
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 2: I love the song. I don't have much to add.

757
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: Always enjoyed listening to the song though.

758
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:45,039
Speaker 3: This song is about finding contentment on the road of life.

759
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,480
These guys are not really singing about boobs and girls

760
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,880
and drugs, and I mean they're different than their peers

761
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,800
in that aspect.

762
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,639
Speaker 1: I think. Well, one of the lines of the song

763
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,519
is monkey on.

764
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: My back, but gotta find a better way, better way.

765
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: Not a love affair with heroin.

766
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: It's not a list of strip clubs like we saw

767
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:31,559
from so great song love It. This was released January

768
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:35,599
of nineteen eighty nine. The video for the Last Mile

769
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,960
is your standard eighties fair where it's concert and so

770
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,159
you get a peek behind the curtain and it's there

771
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:45,639
on the road and travel everybody had a traveling road video.

772
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,280
Well this is theirs.

773
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, this wasn't a skipper for you, No,

774
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,599
it wasn't. Okay, Yeah, is it.

775
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:52,079
Speaker 3: What do you think?

776
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: No, this one was good. I just remember him telling

777
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,119
me one of these songs is a skipper, and I

778
00:41:58,159 --> 00:41:59,599
was trying to figure out if it was this one

779
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:00,840
or maybe the next one.

780
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,119
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, here we go.

781
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: So that brings us to the last song on side one,

782
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:29,760
back when things had sides. Yes, yes, this is second win. Okay,

783
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:34,199
So I like this song. Yeah, the sound made me

784
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,079
think of a Guns n' Roses song that would not

785
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:41,719
come out for another three years. Yeah, yeah, you could

786
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,400
be Mine from T two. And I'm sitting here and

787
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,239
I'm thinking this has the same kind of style to it.

788
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,199
Same And then I get about two minutes and forty

789
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,400
seconds into the song and it's got this little breakdown

790
00:42:53,480 --> 00:43:16,480
right here, and I'm like, guns n' Roses totally stole

791
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:16,920
this song.

792
00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:20,679
Speaker 3: Well you would think so, except they wrote you could

793
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:25,519
be Mine in eighty seven. Okay, that's a right. I

794
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:27,760
won't say that. No, I won't trash your theory. No,

795
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,559
that's fine, it's okay. Did they they almost put it

796
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:32,639
on Appetite, That's.

797
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:35,159
Speaker 1: Right, they did, so they had blows my theory. No,

798
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,159
that's fine. I like the I like that. That's fine.

799
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:39,119
We can keep it in there.

800
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,159
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, sorry, all right, Well, I don't know.

801
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,199
Speaker 1: I know Maydie Cinderella heard guns and Roses. I don't know.

802
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, well, I don't know.

803
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's the breakdown that they didn't have in

804
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,760
the original version.

805
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,679
Speaker 3: There you go, now, Kevin, you're telling us this is

806
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:00,840
a skipper notes.

807
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 4: If they put more thoughts into the lyrics, it would

808
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,639
be a better song.

809
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,199
Speaker 1: Okay.

810
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: Musically it's okay.

811
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:13,159
Speaker 1: Song okay, not your favorite, not my favorite, okay.

812
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 4: My least favorite on the album, really okay, Okaydee, what

813
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,679
do you think.

814
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm more of a music guy anyway. So I'm still

815
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,480
digging this one, and I'm trying not to think about

816
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:27,280
Guns n' Roses. But uh but no, I dug it,

817
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,039
and I like that. I really like that breakdown in

818
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,440
the middle. I do. So this song second Wind is

819
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:34,920
the only song on the album that Cozy Powell did

820
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,280
not play the drum song. Oh really okay, yeah, maybe

821
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,320
that's why Kevin didn't like it.

822
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:44,159
Speaker 3: Maybe Dinny Camasi, yes, okay, okay, I've got a quick

823
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:46,320
story okay, adjacent to this song.

824
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: Okay.

825
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,159
Speaker 3: So this made the set list in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on

826
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:55,599
March of nineteen eighty nine. Okay, so there was song

827
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,719
number ten and they played it between Gypsy Road and

828
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,360
Nobody's Full from Night songs. Okay, so this was a

829
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,880
song they did play in concert. Now, then I've told

830
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,320
you know me pretty well. In March of eighty nine,

831
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,079
I was on a ski trip, but Cinderella played Tulsa,

832
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:12,440
Oklahoma this same week as I was supposed to go skiing,

833
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,679
and it was Cinderella and Winger and the Bullet Boys,

834
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,599
and I freaking love ski trips, but I literally was like, hmmm, Cinderella, Winger,

835
00:45:21,639 --> 00:45:22,599
Bullet Boys.

836
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: Or ski trip.

837
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: I opted for the ski trip. But I the one

838
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,599
concert in my life that I missed that I could

839
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:33,880
have gone to was this one and still has a

840
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,360
little twinge in my heart because I missed it, little

841
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,559
pained regret. Yes, it was over spring break. It was

842
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,119
like I remember it because it was on spring break

843
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:42,960
in my high school year.

844
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: So there you go. Sorry for you, I know.

845
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: So I did not get to hear second Win played

846
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,719
at the tenth overall song on that.

847
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:55,159
Speaker 1: All right, well it's time for you to say it, Jason.

848
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 3: Hit stop on your tape player, kick it out. Flip

849
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,599
it over for side two, and we kick it off

850
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:03,960
with the song called Long Cold Winter.

851
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,679
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I mean, oh my gosh, let's start side

852
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,920
one with the blues from the Crossroads, and let's start

853
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:52,039
side to with this beautiful, soulful blues lead guitar that

854
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,000
just melts your freaking face.

855
00:46:54,440 --> 00:47:11,119
Speaker 6: I love it.

856
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:14,599
Speaker 3: For the record, this was the song that I said

857
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,880
he's gonna love this song.

858
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: You were right, Yes, yes, very very very good song

859
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:23,119
like this Bad Seamsress Blues Falling part of the Seams,

860
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,519
Don't Know What You Got Till It's Gone, and Long

861
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:28,599
Cold Winter are my top three on the album, and

862
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:31,400
they could find the top spot any day, depending on

863
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:31,800
my movie.

864
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: Who Okay, Kevin, what do you think?

865
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:38,199
Speaker 4: Love this song musically and vocally remind me of Janis Jockey? Okay,

866
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,760
Just a very heartfelt blues song. Makes you feel the

867
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,039
pain that he's feeling.

868
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: His vocals are blistering in this song.

869
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,079
Speaker 1: It's I mean, just the first lines of the song,

870
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,679
I've been down, I've been crying in the dead of night.

871
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,079
I've been trying. I've been trying to find the time

872
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:00,599
to make it right. If that's not blues, I don't

873
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:01,039
know what it is.

874
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,079
Speaker 3: That's the blues.

875
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 5: Baby.

876
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:10,599
Speaker 3: Don't get out of here about paying the blues, you know.

877
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,199
I was, I was listening to this album today and

878
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:16,559
I thought to myself, if this song had been playing

879
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,679
in the background during the weird science scene where he's like,

880
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,920
that's been let me tell you my story, it would

881
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:34,400
have fit right, Yes, super bluesy during the concerts, it

882
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,239
would snow during this song.

883
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: How did what?

884
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: They would drop artificial snowflakes from the ceiling during this song?

885
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:47,519
All right, I mean, once again, concerts are not what

886
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:50,320
they were. They drop a freaking piano from the ceiling

887
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,760
and they make it snow during the song local Winter.

888
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,079
How cool is that?

889
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: Beautiful?

890
00:48:56,119 --> 00:48:58,119
Speaker 3: Okay? I thought maybe I'd just bring this up at

891
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:01,840
this moment. Jeff Lebar, who was the original not original

892
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,920
guitarist for Cinderella, the one we know from Night Songs on,

893
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,840
passed away July fourteenth of twenty twenty one, had a

894
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,960
long history of substance abuse and was one of the

895
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,119
main reasons why Cinderella had been inactive for a lot

896
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:20,800
of years. Tom Keefer actually his one of his his

897
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,239
left vocal cord was paralyzed. Yeah, and it wasn't something

898
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,280
he could really get over, so that was a major factor.

899
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:31,360
But Jeff Lebar had some heroin issues and after going

900
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,480
missing for three or four days, they discovered him in

901
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:37,800
his apartment in Nashville. It's kind of a sad, sad

902
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,960
thing that's treasure.

903
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: So so this is the perfect sad story to tell

904
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,360
during this incredibly sad bluesy song. I don't want to

905
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,760
be done with this song, but we do have to

906
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,239
keep going.

907
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:03,639
Speaker 3: I am proud of myself though, for nailing the song

908
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,480
that you would love.

909
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,119
Speaker 1: On this album. All right. That brings us to song

910
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,679
number two on side to song number seven on the album.

911
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:20,239
This song is called if you Don't Like It. I

912
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,400
really want to hear Joe Perry and Steven Tyler cover

913
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,800
this song yeah, because I think they would kill it. Yes,

914
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:50,480
it has got a Joe Perry style lick to it.

915
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,960
It is got the rhythm that all of Steven Tyler's

916
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,119
songs have. I would love to hear them cover the

917
00:50:56,159 --> 00:50:58,559
song that'd being said, this is not my favorite song on.

918
00:50:58,559 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: The album, let me think him.

919
00:50:59,400 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: I agree.

920
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,039
Speaker 4: I don't like the song as much as I like

921
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:04,559
others on the album. I don't think it's a bad song,

922
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:05,760
it's a better song.

923
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 3: Well, okay, I definitely would agree that there are better songs,

924
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,719
but this is a great song too. I enjoy this one. Yeah,

925
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,519
and his once again killing it vocally, you know, and

926
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:19,440
it's fun, you know the I just don't care, you know,

927
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:22,199
the squeal of his voice on that one. This kid's

928
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:22,760
radio play.

929
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,679
Speaker 1: I like it.

930
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:36,199
Speaker 3: It's not a Skippers, still a lot of funny. It's

931
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:38,360
hard when you compare it to Gypsy Road and don't

932
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,000
know what you got.

933
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:42,079
Speaker 2: So they set the bar high they did.

934
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 3: By the way, I wanted to mention this. I forgot

935
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,199
to say this. So we've talked about how they sound

936
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,320
very Aerosmith. They sound very easy DC. There's some Zeppelin

937
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,360
in there, maybe some Rolling Stones, right. So I just

938
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,360
looked at the setlist for that concert in Tulsa when

939
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,000
I was in high school. They closed with jump a

940
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:05,639
Jack Flash and Sweet Home Alabama, and I'm like, dude,

941
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,039
that would have been a great, great ending to that concert.

942
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I saw the end of their sets every

943
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,079
time they do Sweet Home Alabama and they would bring

944
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,000
out their opening acts, sing a song and play the

945
00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:20,639
song with them. It was kind of like this group

946
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:23,320
show that we're gonna Hey, we're going to go with

947
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,000
a song that everybody loves. Right, But on the last

948
00:52:27,159 --> 00:52:31,079
night of the last concert of the tour, the opening

949
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:33,239
band had left. They were gone. I don't know who

950
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,400
it was that they were gone. And so what they

951
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,880
did was they brought out the crew. They brought out

952
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,400
all the roadies and all the guys that were responsible

953
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,880
for getting everything put together and taking everything down. And

954
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,920
you've got a stage full of guys, I mean, who

955
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:50,039
never get to play guitar on stage up there playing guitar,

956
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,480
singing all sweet Home Alabama, arms around each other, just

957
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:56,559
you know, they're all happy and sad to be bringing

958
00:52:56,599 --> 00:52:57,920
this incredible tour to an end.

959
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 3: That is so cool that just puts us smile on

960
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:00,719
my face.

961
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: I love that all right, And oddly enough, that brings

962
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,000
us to the perfect next song. This one is called

963
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,960
coming Home.

964
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 5: I took the.

965
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:25,639
Speaker 2: Out Down, a song I was meant to stay.

966
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: I see I'm spiking the football. This is my favorite

967
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,800
song on the album. Oh wow, I freaking love this song.

968
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:35,400
Nice Now I'm willing to admit that it has some

969
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,079
to do with that time in my life. Gosh, this

970
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:40,000
song just hits me right in the in the field.

971
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,480
So I'm not ready to say it's the best song

972
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:43,079
on the album, but.

973
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 5: It's my favorite.

974
00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:53,599
Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. I love it, I think him,

975
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:54,480
I love the song I.

976
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: Always have once again bringing the twelfth string back in

977
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,559
and this is This exemplifies what I was talking about,

978
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:03,440
where he can go from that rolly scratchy to this

979
00:54:03,519 --> 00:54:06,400
beautiful melodic voice. Like I hear this song and I

980
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,800
have the same reaction that I have when I hear

981
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,840
dream on for the first time in years, and I'm like,

982
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,159
is this really him? Because it doesn't even sound like

983
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,239
him until it hits that dream screaming dream On this one,

984
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,440
He's got this beautiful melody to his voice and the

985
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,440
chord progression and the rhythm. This is almost like a

986
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,119
country song. I mean, this is and the feels of

987
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:29,559
a country song of like I'm finally getting to go

988
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:32,119
back home, back where when we get home cooked food again.

989
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,119
This is a very country feel and their execution I

990
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:37,440
think is flawless on it.

991
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,199
Speaker 3: It's fantastic. It's the fourth single. This reached number twenty

992
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,280
on the Hot one hundred. I'm not going to go

993
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,760
through the nineteen better songs, but I absolutely love it.

994
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,079
Now the music video, have you guys seen it recently?

995
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: Reach?

996
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So here's the deal. You have this guy who

997
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,960
rides his motorcycle and apparently he's involved romantically in this girl.

998
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:00,000
Somehow they get separated and he's on his way back home,

999
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:01,840
like he's headed back to see her, right, and there's

1000
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,199
the memories of this girl. And when he gets all

1001
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,519
the way back there, apparently there are no phones in

1002
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:09,719
this universe. He gets all the way back to see here,

1003
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,880
goes to the house that they spend all this time

1004
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,079
in and it's boarded up, like the house is like empty,

1005
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:19,199
boarded up, and he's like, oh no, what happened? And

1006
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,079
then the girl walks in. It comes around the corner.

1007
00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:24,480
No kiss, no hug, no nothing. It's the weirdest video.

1008
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,760
And first of all, he gets back home, it's boarded up,

1009
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,840
she's moved out, but miraculously she happens to be there,

1010
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:34,360
and then no kiss, no hug, there's no reconciliation at

1011
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,480
the end. So not the best video I've ever seen

1012
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:40,960
in my life. But the song is fantastic. Yeah, won't

1013
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,760
be a sequel to that video? Yeah, no kids, No grandkids,

1014
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,280
no nothing.

1015
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, this was a different director than the other videos.

1016
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,880
This was a guy named Chris Painter, who I feel

1017
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,320
like we've probably talked about before. But I'm glad that

1018
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:57,239
I looked because, like I said to you, I was

1019
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,000
surprised listening to this album because to me didn't feel

1020
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,400
it all like the glam rock the bands that they

1021
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,679
were with on the Moscow Peace Festival. I didn't feel

1022
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,480
like that at all. It felt more like Tesla and

1023
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,840
Black Crows, like all this blues feels well. Chris Painter

1024
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,480
is the guy who directed all of the Tesla videos.

1025
00:56:16,519 --> 00:56:19,760
The love song signs, roll the Bones, all of those

1026
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,159
are Chris Painter videos. My guess is he recorded the

1027
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:25,440
first part and then they had another guy come in

1028
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:29,320
because there's two, and then the second guy's named Mark Ryszewski,

1029
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,719
who has done that much.

1030
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,079
Speaker 3: Okay, what do we cover in Tesla D.

1031
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think the perfect matchup

1032
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,920
is Black Crows, so we just got to figure out

1033
00:56:39,199 --> 00:56:40,760
how to make that happen, right.

1034
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,159
Speaker 3: Tesla versus Black Crows. I am on board, Yeah, I'm

1035
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:48,199
on board. Okay, moving on. Next song on the album

1036
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,039
is called Fire and Ice.

1037
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: Okay, gentlemen. For me, this is the first skipper on

1038
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,920
the album. This feels like filler to me, second to

1039
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,440
last song on the album. First skipper, I agree, this

1040
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:15,280
is a skipper. This is the one skipper for me. Kaef,

1041
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,400
I agree.

1042
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: It's not a very good song. Every time I hear it,

1043
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,079
I'm like hearing it for the first time.

1044
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:24,639
Speaker 3: It doesn't stick with It's more rock, it's crunchy.

1045
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1046
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:27,559
Speaker 3: I could see this being a concert song, you know,

1047
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:30,960
with fire and ice, maybe like red lights and blue lights.

1048
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:32,559
Speaker 1: And amp up the pyrotechnics.

1049
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:35,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, except they didn't play it on their set list,

1050
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:37,079
so this is not a great concert.

1051
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: They felt the same way about the song that we

1052
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,360
didn't right, They're like, that was just a filler song.

1053
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,480
We don't really care about that song.

1054
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:42,199
Speaker 3: Skipper.

1055
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,719
Speaker 1: It's so very good. That will move right along.

1056
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 3: Then moving on.

1057
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:49,079
Speaker 1: Last song on the album, say it Ain't so. This

1058
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:50,559
song is called take Me.

1059
00:57:50,519 --> 00:58:08,719
Speaker 5: Back Mississippi Queen.

1060
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm sorry, wrong song, wrong song. I got

1061
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,440
a fever and the only prescription is more cow bells.

1062
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1063
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: Cow bell is the strongest part of this song next

1064
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,639
to the lyrics. Lyrics are good. Cow Bell's good. Rest

1065
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:29,039
of the song. I can see why Andy John's was like, guys,

1066
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:30,400
we need to end better than this.

1067
00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 3: Hey, I think this is a pretty good closer for

1068
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,360
this album. It's it's middle of the road. It's not

1069
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:41,280
a skipper. It's not fantastic, but for me, it closes

1070
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,639
out the album nicely. It's a it's a feel good song.

1071
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 5: I'm okay with it.

1072
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:45,679
Speaker 2: I enjoyed the song.

1073
00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: That all you Got Miss zip A Queen whatever. Yeah, now,

1074
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,039
I'm I mean it's I agree. It is not a skipper,

1075
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:09,039
but it is it's not memorable either.

1076
00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's fine. Yeah, before we end this album,

1077
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,599
I want I want to drop this on you real quick. Okay,

1078
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,840
So this album sold. You know, I think I went

1079
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,000
two times platinum in the US, so it sold a

1080
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,800
bunch of copies. It peaked at number ten on the

1081
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,360
Billboard two hundred. All right, d here are the nine

1082
00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:32,159
albums that finished ahead of it in total sales.

1083
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay?

1084
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: Number nine, Open Up and Say Ah covered by the

1085
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,360
Shirley Can't Be Serious podcast.

1086
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,079
Speaker 1: Yes, what do we compare that to.

1087
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: Living Colors Vivid album?

1088
00:59:40,519 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: That's good comparison?

1089
00:59:41,519 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 5: Okay?

1090
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: Number eight Richard Mark's debut album.

1091
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: Well that was a big I was very big back then.

1092
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,159
Speaker 3: We keep coming across this. We may have to cover

1093
00:59:49,239 --> 00:59:52,719
that sometimes. Number seven, oh you eight one two, which

1094
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,559
we are comparing to this album, covering it next week.

1095
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,880
Number six Faith Yeah, number five, he's the DJ. I'm

1096
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,599
the rapper, you know, saying that one Fresh Prince spell there,

1097
01:00:03,639 --> 01:00:06,800
that's it DJ Jesse Jeff the Fresh Prince. Number four,

1098
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,920
Roll with It by Steve Winwood. Number three Tracy Chapman's

1099
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,920
debut album, Number two Appetite for Destruction, and number one Hysteria.

1100
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: So those are again, that's a heck of a list.

1101
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: That's a heck of a list, right, Yeah, So overall,

1102
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:26,000
great album. I love so many songs on this album.

1103
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,039
Speaker 1: Side note, Tracy Chapman just became the first African American

1104
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:33,760
woman to have a song on the top of the

1105
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,480
country charts because Luke Combs just covered Fast Car.

1106
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,239
Speaker 3: Yeah really yeah, Well, good for her. That's fantastic.

1107
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: There you go. I got it, Like I said, these

1108
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,599
pieces of information just floating around up in the bean there.

1109
01:00:47,079 --> 01:00:48,719
Speaker 3: Impressive yeah, impressive.

1110
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 5: Okay.

1111
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,159
Speaker 3: Overall, Kevin, what do you think?

1112
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: Loved the album?

1113
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 4: I thought it was a good progression from their debut album.

1114
01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:58,159
Thought that you could see maturity and growth in the

1115
01:00:58,239 --> 01:01:00,440
right direction, and I was.

1116
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,559
Speaker 1: I loved it.

1117
01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 4: I thought it was when it came out, I was

1118
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:07,320
glad I bought it and were wore it out.

1119
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: D I'm really excited to hear what you think because

1120
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:11,760
you didn't grow up with this like we did.

1121
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, this was I was. I'm very thankful for

1122
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,159
getting to become familiar with this album. This will be

1123
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:20,400
one that I bring into my rotation. I'm going to

1124
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,360
be My youngest daughter is only eleven, but she absolutely

1125
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,280
loves ac DC, and I'm like, she's going to love

1126
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:31,400
this album. She's going to love Cinderella. I'm looking forward

1127
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,760
to introducing it, introducing her to it.

1128
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 3: By the way her doors off with the first couple

1129
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:37,920
of songs.

1130
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: By the way side note, I go to this local

1131
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,760
restaurant all the time called Louise, which is where Kevin

1132
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,679
and I will hang out frequently. And the first time

1133
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,559
that he met my daughter, he thought that I had

1134
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:50,639
said that it was her birthday, and so he went

1135
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:53,599
and sang Happy Birthday to her, and it was not

1136
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:56,639
her birthday. But it is now a running gag that

1137
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,280
every time that he sees her or she sees him.

1138
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,239
They tell each other Happy Birthday, and frequently he will

1139
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,559
order a dessert for her.

1140
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: That is very very nice.

1141
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:08,039
Speaker 1: Love it.

1142
01:02:08,119 --> 01:02:10,079
Speaker 3: Hey, here's what I think is so funny about that.

1143
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:12,840
So you guys obviously frequent this restaurant a lot, because

1144
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,760
we took Del Selby over there after we recorded Open

1145
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,360
Up and say, ah, and we were looking for you,

1146
01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:18,400
where's Kevin?

1147
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,239
Speaker 1: He was there? He was?

1148
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 5: He was there?

1149
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh yeah, well I didn't see him.

1150
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: Well, he was at the bar and we were outside.

1151
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. Shoot, sorry, next time, there we go. Okay.

1152
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,599
Speaker 1: So this obviously was their biggest album. It was Yeah,

1153
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:35,239
and then it took a couple of years and they

1154
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,960
came out with Heartbreak Station, which went even further into

1155
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,840
the blues style. And then it was another four years

1156
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,599
before they finally came out with Still Climbing. And by

1157
01:02:45,639 --> 01:02:50,719
that time the music industry had changed substantially, right, And

1158
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,639
as you mentioned earlier, Tom Keefer had a vocal cord

1159
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,840
get paralyzed.

1160
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,519
Speaker 3: Moraalysis.

1161
01:02:56,599 --> 01:02:58,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I don't even know how you

1162
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:00,719
go through that, but he he ultimately trained his voice

1163
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,440
back up, had to relearn how to sing. But since

1164
01:03:03,519 --> 01:03:07,199
this time, they've gotten back together for one reunion tour.

1165
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,480
It was the Cruise The Rock Isn't Dead or something

1166
01:03:10,519 --> 01:03:14,280
like that old eighties rock cruise ship type thing. But

1167
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,760
then he started having trouble with his voice again and

1168
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,559
they fell apart again. But he's still I mean, I

1169
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:21,639
think a lot of these guys live in the same way.

1170
01:03:21,679 --> 01:03:23,599
They all live in Nashville, I thing they do. Yeah,

1171
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,880
and so he kind of maintains it's not that the

1172
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,800
band is dead. We still communicate, we still hang out,

1173
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,480
we still play together. It's just we are kind of

1174
01:03:33,519 --> 01:03:35,519
on a hiatus because I've had these issues with my

1175
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:38,880
voice and we have you know, we're not making anything

1176
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new at this point.

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Speaker 3: It kind of bums me out. I mean, look what

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they're capable of. Yeah, I will be anxious to hear

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what you think about comparing this next week to Van

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Halen's Oh You eight one two.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to cover it. And when we come back,

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we will have a guest with us.

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Speaker 3: Mister Jeff Johnson is coming over to talk Van Hagar

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with us next week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you might be asking yourself the question,

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why did we pick Kevin, who's got his grandson named

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after van Halen to do this album instead of the

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van Halen album. Well, come back for our next episode,

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where you will get final judgment from Jason for Me,

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from Jeff Johnson, and from Kevin on which of these

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two albums is the best.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 5: We thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: I am pleasure just to meet you and get to

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hang out with you a little bit. I'm so glad

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to beat you.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed the program a lot. I listened to your

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podcasts weekly and honor to be here.

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Speaker 3: Cool did Jeff fun I had a great time.

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Speaker 1: Awesome.

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Speaker 3: Well, we will see you guys back here next week

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when we talk about van Halen's Oh You eight one

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two