Speaker 1: This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 1: been in the ring a lot longer than that. Really
Speaker 1: happy to have Pete Boyles with us, and we first
Speaker 1: started talking this afternoon about this pet peeve of mine.
Speaker 1: Of all these buildings and roadways paid for by all
Speaker 1: of us, being named after politicians, why not name them
Speaker 1: after our true heroes who have given their lives for
Speaker 1: us or otherwise accomplished something truly physically courageous and heroic.
Speaker 1: And Pete's been trying for a long time now to
Speaker 1: get a certain stretch of Adams Street named after ellen Burg.
Speaker 1: And so the conversation has rolled from there. So Pete,
Speaker 1: appreciate you staying for another segment.
Speaker 2: Danny, I love working with you the topic and I
Speaker 2: thought of something during the break. Remember when Donald Trump
Speaker 2: is recently he wanted to rename Veterans Day the Victory
Speaker 2: Day for World War One, a way to celebrate the
Speaker 2: N'say's military victory. And he began at the first part
Speaker 2: of them. I think it was for part of May.
Speaker 2: The Victory Day for World War Two is pushing. I
Speaker 2: think it was May eighth to move that day, and
Speaker 2: Veterans Day's at federal holiday. But all these different shifts
Speaker 2: that are taking place right now, I don't know how
Speaker 2: comfortable I am, But I'm an old guy. So what
Speaker 2: do you do with it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I am all for a major shift
Speaker 1: towards just honoring a lot of people who don't normally
Speaker 1: get honored, even some names we don't know. So anything
Speaker 1: that furthers that great. If we're talking about Veterans Day
Speaker 1: in particular, I'd hate to mess with Veterans Day, just
Speaker 1: because it's such a part of our culture and our
Speaker 1: history right now, right and everybody knows what it means.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the individual folks, I think we need to
Speaker 1: see change on that in Colorado right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: who else would you want to name things? After? We
Speaker 1: know Alan Berg is on your list. I agree with
Speaker 1: you completely on that.
Speaker 2: But we're talking about some judges that we both know
Speaker 2: or knew. Yes, how about how about sports guys? I
Speaker 2: mean we talked about Dick Connor, but in essence, he's
Speaker 2: the media guy. Yeah, John Elway, I mean, uh.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's a great question. But it's
Speaker 1: stupid to me to even say that, because that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that you're the man is you've been
Speaker 1: you ask these provocative questions and fearlessly. You know, when
Speaker 1: it comes to sports, Pete might take at least would
Speaker 1: be it can't just be x's and o's. It asked
Speaker 1: to be somebody who also represents those values, right, that
Speaker 1: that has that level of character, et cetera. So the
Speaker 1: our instant thought up here was kind of Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: And that's no knock on anybody else, but but who
Speaker 1: else from the sports world.
Speaker 2: You know, there's been some great old prize fight that
Speaker 2: that fought in Denver in the forties and fifties. Corky
Speaker 2: Gonzalez was one of them. Cowboy Ruben Shanks was another one.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of a history geek about boxing. Uh, late
Speaker 2: great ron Lyle was one. So what do we do
Speaker 2: with those guys? What do we do?
Speaker 1: You know that the first thing you do is name
Speaker 1: something after Cowboy Ruben Shanks just because of the name, right,
Speaker 1: everybody will want a house on that street.
Speaker 2: But I gotta pay you something. Uh, there're the guy's
Speaker 2: ducked him, you know. And yeah, they didn't want to fight.
Speaker 2: They didn't want to fight cowboys.
Speaker 1: For the record, I know nothing about his lifestyle. But
Speaker 1: but Pete, this has kind of insane. Right. How does
Speaker 1: Colorado not have any street or building named after John Elway? Right?
Speaker 1: Come on, I mean you talk about probably and listen,
Speaker 1: I've had my disagreements with him and my many agreements,
Speaker 1: But you talk about somebody who has just kind of
Speaker 1: transformed Denver and Colorado as a sports town. There's got
Speaker 1: to be something named after Elway.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Elway probably to a high degree of probability,
Speaker 2: along with some people that you and I know, Lee Larson,
Speaker 2: John Beek, and Roger Odden. They built that new stadium
Speaker 2: that man built John Elway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, went.
Speaker 2: Back to back. He built that, He built that stadium.
Speaker 1: Well, and I think John Elway did so much to
Speaker 1: bring us together. And I'm still pissed at him over
Speaker 1: the tebow stuff. Sorry, kids, still upset, But but Elway,
Speaker 1: he was so good, better than he gets credit for
Speaker 1: that bound people together in this whole Rocky Mountain region
Speaker 1: more than anything else other than people's faith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I remember, I mean, who
Speaker 2: would you think we have Let's see, Mother Caprini's there,
Speaker 2: you know, you know who I always loved with shape
Speaker 2: you and I yeah, yeah, reserve than anybody for the
Speaker 2: first American pope.
Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, he would have been perfect. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: in terms of naming, going back to the judge thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure people are gagging right now because Daniel
Speaker 1: a lawyer, you're trying to kiss up. And I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you there are certain judges who did so much
Speaker 1: good for this community. They they gave up an awful
Speaker 1: lot of money, because all these judges could be earning
Speaker 1: millions over the course of their career and they give
Speaker 1: that up to do this important judge work. But like
Speaker 1: you mentioned judge Mage, right, I mean, and in a
Speaker 1: certain at a certain point, Pete, don't you think And
Speaker 1: I think this should include teachers, police, firefighters, people from military.
Speaker 1: But we should have big things named after at least
Speaker 1: one person from from each of these kind of heroic categories.
Speaker 1: And I think one of those categories should be judge.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, what's the purpose of naming something after?
Speaker 2: You ask yourself? The Navy does it with ships, you know,
Speaker 2: I suspect, well, the Air Air Force does it with
Speaker 2: with fields. I mean with there's you know, places air
Speaker 2: Force installations named after great great men, pilots, heads of this,
Speaker 2: heads of that, and so you know, what, what what?
Speaker 2: What's the basis? And I think in a city, I
Speaker 2: think you're right, there has to be something that's directly
Speaker 2: connected to civil pride, to making progress on you know,
Speaker 2: something that was really hard for people to deal with.
Speaker 2: We were talking about Native Americans and what happened to
Speaker 2: the Native Americans to talking about the custom the battlefield
Speaker 2: when you and I were kids, and a bar that
Speaker 2: might one of the many bars my father drank in
Speaker 2: had that dia drama dry. I think they're called dioramas
Speaker 2: Custer at the little Big Horn on the hill, buck skins,
Speaker 2: the I think they're coat maybe pistols killing Native Americans
Speaker 2: isn't true, not even close. And I thought to the
Speaker 2: Aero Flynn that Custer was a hero. No he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and so what do we do with yeah? No, Well,
Speaker 1: on the positive side of it, I think something has
Speaker 1: to be named after Bill McCartney because he had a
Speaker 1: guy who not only transformed the sports landscape, but but
Speaker 1: stood for some very important principles. I mean for me
Speaker 1: as a Christian, I think, and for many people as Christians.
Speaker 1: He was just a tremendous role model. But he also
Speaker 1: accomplished the sports thing.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't know him well Wood he paid,
Speaker 2: he paid, he was and he I mean, how about
Speaker 2: for Steve.
Speaker 1: Raims, Oh man, he's a stud. He named a lance
Speaker 1: and Steve is a stud. There is no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: I'm so thrilled to him on the air. We're riding together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because because you know, on air one day
Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know, I'm going to be doing
Speaker 1: a lot of trials. Let's add we have great feelings,
Speaker 1: but let's add some more folks. And a lot of
Speaker 1: people said, Steve reams. And I'm glad they did. I'm
Speaker 1: glad they did it. You know, I was just you
Speaker 1: just said something that made me think of a funny story.
Speaker 1: But I've got to filter it through a break and
Speaker 1: see if i can tell it without getting fired. So
Speaker 1: so I'll work on that one for a second. But Pete,
Speaker 1: it's a you know, we have people lighting up the
Speaker 1: lines to talk to you. Can you hang in there
Speaker 1: for another segment. Of course, Yeah, yeah, no, let's do
Speaker 1: that because Peepoyles are a special guest, and we're talking
Speaker 1: obviously about okay, naming stuff, building streets, et cetera. Who
Speaker 1: should we be naming things after? Get specific? And should
Speaker 1: we be taking any of these down? Because whether I
Speaker 1: like them or not, nothing, nothing should be named after
Speaker 1: a living politician. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1: Lines on fire for very good reason. Peete Boyles is
Speaker 1: with us. If you're new to the area, Pete is
Speaker 1: a true radio icon and so great to have them
Speaker 1: with us. We're talking about something lighter but still having
Speaker 1: important today, the naming of buildings, roadways, et cetera. And
Speaker 1: who do we need to name what after him? What
Speaker 1: name should come down? I say, none of this stuff
Speaker 1: should be named after living politicians. Pete. Let's go to
Speaker 1: the phone lines. Lots of people want to talk to Pete.
Speaker 1: Let's start with how about Brad in Highland's Ranch. You're
Speaker 1: on the Dan Kapla Show with Pete Boyles.
Speaker 4: Welcome Brad, Doctor Dan Kaplis I like that now on right?
Speaker 1: Hi, boy I hope everybody does, especially my wife.
Speaker 4: Hi, mister Boyles, talk to you man several times.
Speaker 2: I'm real quickly.
Speaker 4: I just want to talk to you guys about the
Speaker 4: state sport of Colorado, which is pack burrow racing. We
Speaker 4: raced hockeys in the mountains. A little history. In nineteen
Speaker 4: fifty one, a young lady lined up with her burrow
Speaker 4: named Pill. But she had to have facial hair, and
Speaker 4: so she cut off some golden blocks of her granddaughter's
Speaker 4: hair gluted on her face and she ran from fair
Speaker 4: Play to Leadville. That's the first woman to ever run
Speaker 4: a marathon in nineteen fifty one. Wow, they say missus
Speaker 4: Schwartz at the Boston at sea level in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 4: We have had over one hundred women run marathon distances
Speaker 4: here in Colorado since nineteen fifty one. You can find
Speaker 4: the stories in the New York Times. She has a book,
Speaker 4: she has a children's book. She's in the Women's Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame. Edna Miller.
Speaker 3: Edna Miller.
Speaker 1: So your thought, Brad, as we named something after Edna Miller.
Speaker 2: She's a school teacher.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: She checks a lot to the boxes, okay, and she's
Speaker 2: like something.
Speaker 4: Heroic, something courageous. It's something never been done before.
Speaker 1: What should we name after Edna Miller? She sounds more
Speaker 1: than worthy.
Speaker 4: I think it's got to be a building. This within
Speaker 4: eyesight of I twenty five?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well, Brad, appreciate that. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 1: Appreciate the call, one.
Speaker 2: Brad from you? Would you put at the bottom? So
Speaker 2: get your ass over the past.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: Hey, listen August tenth, the Bunavisa, third leg, simple crown.
Speaker 4: I'll see you in Bunavisa.
Speaker 1: I love the enthusiasts, the.
Speaker 5: Pause.
Speaker 2: Who was the sheriff? They had the sheriff? The jail
Speaker 2: is named after.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Sullivan, Sheriff Sullivan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's one.
Speaker 1: Didn't he go into the jail that had his name
Speaker 1: on it? Yeah, that's like Chicago, except in Chicago they'd
Speaker 1: leave the name on it.
Speaker 2: Did you read Royko's book Boss?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: When he said he said that when you became sheriff
Speaker 2: of Cook County there and he gave you one term
Speaker 2: and somebody said why, and Daily is alleged to have said,
Speaker 2: if you can't steal nothing one term another.
Speaker 1: That the smartest move I ever saw, because I grew
Speaker 1: up on the south side, in the southwest side of Chicago,
Speaker 1: they had this, uh little junior college, well little community
Speaker 1: college built over by a shopping center on the southwest side,
Speaker 1: and then somebody had the brilliant idea to name it
Speaker 1: Richard J. Day Junior College, and it became like Harvard overnight.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the money they could pop simply spend
Speaker 1: once they named it after mayor Daily. But yeah, brilliant.
Speaker 1: It's like under armour. Can you imagine if they named
Speaker 1: under armor like sports underwear, nobody would have bought a piece.
Speaker 1: Jack in Cheyenne, You're on the Dan Kapla Show with
Speaker 1: Pete Boyles.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Danny.
Speaker 1: How you been well, I've been great. More importantly, how's
Speaker 1: Pete ben.
Speaker 2: Oho? Here Pizza National Treasure. I've always gone there. Man.
Speaker 1: How many years on air, Pete?
Speaker 2: Oh god, my daughter turned fifty and I went on fifty.
Speaker 2: I did the traffic report that morning because the tracks
Speaker 2: support a didn't show up and I was I was,
Speaker 2: that's my first day on the air, So she's not fifty. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: what is.
Speaker 1: Your most memorable day on air? Oh?
Speaker 2: Boy, my son was born. We were working. I think
Speaker 2: there's been days where there have been very you know,
Speaker 2: frightening things, and there's been really wonderful things that happen,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's hard to put them together. Or
Speaker 2: most important person you ever met. I've met some people that,
Speaker 2: like you, point out about renaming things that no one
Speaker 2: knew who they were, and yet they were their home runs,
Speaker 2: right right, and don't have an answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you will by the end of this show,
Speaker 1: I promise you, Jack fire Away.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's one mountain they haven't renamed yet, and I'm
Speaker 6: waiting for them to do it now. Pike's Peak has
Speaker 6: definitely got to be renamed. And it's obvious it's got
Speaker 6: to be renamed Obama Peak because Cebulon Pike was number one,
Speaker 6: he was never a community organizer, okay, and number two
Speaker 6: he never handed out Obama books. So I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't see how you can keep it pike Sneak anymore.
Speaker 4: That's over.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Jack, appreciate that contribute. Actually a great call.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jack, appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Well. One more. Danny and his Dinner.
Speaker 1: Oh you gotta go. Oh h you're such a historian.
Speaker 1: Tell me what you think about this idea. I think
Speaker 1: this whole Gore range thing and all of that Gore Creek.
Speaker 1: I think that's got to change because everything I read
Speaker 1: about that guy, and listen, I'm not one of these,
Speaker 1: you know, woke change the name of anybody who screwed
Speaker 1: up guys, not at all. But that guy, from everything
Speaker 1: I've read, no redeeming, you know, no actions, and he
Speaker 1: just slaughtered innocent animals all over the West.
Speaker 2: But there's a great line that historians say he was
Speaker 2: a man of his time. And when they start to
Speaker 2: go after Columbus, he was a man of his time.
Speaker 2: That's what they did. And so you want to judge
Speaker 2: him by twenty twenty five standards of the late early
Speaker 2: fourteenth century fifteenth century, it comes up short. He was
Speaker 2: a man of his time. What are you doing? I
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, I got two hungry guys here.
Speaker 1: I'll let you go, my friend, and then I love you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, okay, too soon? Thank you, Pete. That is
Speaker 1: a Pete Boyles kind enough to be with us.
Speaker 3: So I wonder what he was fixing up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, must have been good. It sounded like something on
Speaker 1: the grill in the background. Yeah, yeah, boy, I don't
Speaker 1: think we'll see another I don't think we'll see another
Speaker 1: like Pete. I don't think unless it's Ryan Shuling, I
Speaker 1: don't think we're going to see another dominant radio guy
Speaker 1: or gale like you know, for like from the Pete
Speaker 1: Boyles Alan Berg kind of mode. You know, Kelly and
Speaker 1: Company was so huge for so long. I just don't
Speaker 1: think you're going to see anybody dominate like that.
Speaker 7: It's a different landscape. I think people have kind of
Speaker 7: migrated to the podcast sphere. I know there are a
Speaker 7: lot of people that listen to this program, probably on
Speaker 7: a podcast format and that platform.
Speaker 3: So hey, you have to evolve.
Speaker 7: And change with the times, and if you don't do that,
Speaker 7: you're probably going to die out. So yeah, it was
Speaker 7: just a golden era of radio when Pete Boyles was
Speaker 7: hosting shows in this market.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And I mean you just there are certain
Speaker 1: people on air you just wouldn't miss, and he is
Speaker 1: one of them. An awful lot of people would never
Speaker 1: miss Mike Rosen, you know, for example. I mean, but
Speaker 1: I think Pete and aild it, Ryan. I think it's
Speaker 1: kind of the tribalization, the polarization because now back in
Speaker 1: those days, I mean with Capitalist and Solman and then
Speaker 1: some shows I did before that, we'd have all sorts
Speaker 1: of Democrats and Republicans and all this and that, but
Speaker 1: people are kind of now in their own camps. Not all,
Speaker 1: but most. Hey, I'm looking at this text, Ryan, and
Speaker 1: I've been in trial and about to start another trial,
Speaker 1: so it looks like I can miss something here, says Dan.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you saw that the fifteen year old who
Speaker 1: killed a young woman has been deported along with his family.
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? It is?
Speaker 7: And I actually received a text from John Weaver, the
Speaker 7: father of Kitlyn, who was the young woman killed yeh
Speaker 7: as the car home by this driver, and also had
Speaker 7: a communication with John Fabricatory, who was involved in the
Speaker 7: apprehension of this young man and his family. And yes,
Speaker 7: ICE has marked them for deportation, and they posted on
Speaker 7: x about it as well, contrasting how they have handled
Speaker 7: that suchua to how Amy Padden, the DA in the
Speaker 7: eighteenth Arapo County decided to hand this kid probation just
Speaker 7: so he would not get deported.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the surprise in the plot twist. He's leaving anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now this text says, actually bend deport.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that, ar Yeah, we'll follow up at.
Speaker 1: The newsroom and see if there's something we can confirm
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Speaker 1: of good texts, and okay, you know who should who
Speaker 1: should we name streets and buildings after? Are there any
Speaker 1: that should come down? What do you think of Pete's
Speaker 1: point that, and I not repeating verbatim, but that you
Speaker 1: have to judge people by the times they lived in. Certainly,
Speaker 1: I think no sane person could ever suggest Washington, Jefferson
Speaker 1: any of that come down. And I never would suggest
Speaker 1: that in a million years. When you talk about a
Speaker 1: guy like Gore, that Gore Range and Gore Creeks named after,
Speaker 1: et cetera. I don't see any reason why you'd leave
Speaker 1: that up here on the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1: He's fine too, They're fine. They're two really good people.
Speaker 1: I know him very well, and I don't know what
Speaker 1: that was all about, but I know him very well
Speaker 1: and they're fine. Yeah. President Trump, who has to be
Speaker 1: the funniest president of our lifetime. Ronald Reagan could tell
Speaker 1: some great jokes and deliver them very well, right, but
Speaker 1: off the cuff humor. Here's the start of that, President Trump.
Speaker 8: This week, there was a video on board a plane
Speaker 8: that showed the First Lady of France slapping her husband
Speaker 8: Emmanuel mccrump. Do you have any world leaders, world leader
Speaker 8: marital ad life, make sure the.
Speaker 1: Door remains flowing. That was not good. And I spoke
Speaker 1: to him and he's he's fine. They're fine. They're two
Speaker 1: really good people. I know. So, you know what, And
Speaker 1: that's great because not to get all philosophical and everything else,
Speaker 1: it's just true. Obviously we were created to respond to humor. Right,
Speaker 1: very few things immediately instinctively, unconsciously just open the mind
Speaker 1: and open the heart like good humor. And so I
Speaker 1: think that has served him very well. Three or three
Speaker 1: someone three eight two five five takes d a n
Speaker 1: five seven seven three nine. Pete Brle's kind enough to
Speaker 1: join us for a long time. Where Pete's been trying
Speaker 1: to get a stretch of a roadway named after ellen
Speaker 1: Berg for a long time, and it obviously should be
Speaker 1: so hopefully that will happen. But his broader conversation of
Speaker 1: what needs to be named after whom, and should any
Speaker 1: of the stuff right now come down like Paya Boulevardnay,
Speaker 1: different politics. But I like Federico Pina. I liked him
Speaker 1: when I was around him, I liked him when I
Speaker 1: had him on air. So it's nothing personal. I just
Speaker 1: think that when the taxpayers are paying hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: for these buildings and roads, we don't name them after politicians.
Speaker 1: We name them after people who've risked their life and
Speaker 1: or died for this this this city, people who come
Speaker 1: from different walks of life and represent the best of
Speaker 1: us and to this texture, says, I think we should
Speaker 1: name something after Dave Logan and Mike Rosen both. I'd
Speaker 1: support both of that, But here's my point. Here's my
Speaker 1: and Dave Logan truly just has had a special place
Speaker 1: in Colorado that nobody else has really occupied, right, just
Speaker 1: all the different things he's done so well. But I
Speaker 1: think what we need to do is, I think we
Speaker 1: need to have we need to go about this in
Speaker 1: a systematic way, and we need to identify categories, and
Speaker 1: before we do anything else, we're going to have something
Speaker 1: big named after at least one person from each category
Speaker 1: because we need something named after military here, right. We
Speaker 1: need something named after a fallen officer, we need something
Speaker 1: named after a fallen firefighter. We need something named after
Speaker 1: a heroic teacher. And there are different forms of heroism.
Speaker 1: But obviously, if Dave Sanders gave his life for his
Speaker 1: kids at Columbine, you know we we've just got to
Speaker 1: have we got to be honoring people from these different categories.
Speaker 1: And this makes my point right that the very last
Speaker 1: category that we would honor somebody out of is political. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about some legendary figure, we talked to
Speaker 1: some our big time president. Sure, but I think that's
Speaker 1: what we need to do, and we need to get
Speaker 1: thoughtful about that and then talk about whether something needs
Speaker 1: to come down. Three all three someone three eight two
Speaker 1: five five the number texter for a hero. My vote
Speaker 1: is for George Brouckler, for all the major criminal trials
Speaker 1: he's handled across the decades, Columbine auroa theater and stems
Speaker 1: such a rock star that from our friend Alexa Ryan,
Speaker 1: is anybody ever admired you as much as a lefe?
Speaker 1: Said Meyers. George Brockler, And and listen, oh, George deserves
Speaker 1: all that credit.
Speaker 3: But I hope Kelsey, but close.
Speaker 1: When is the wedding? I know we have it on
Speaker 1: our calendars. I just can't remember when it is. You
Speaker 1: didn't send the invite? Did you see I got them?
Speaker 3: I got No?
Speaker 1: I know we do.
Speaker 3: You have an rs VP?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: It was sent via email, very nifty and easy.
Speaker 1: Oh I remember, because you're so excited to get it. Yeah, sorry, come,
Speaker 1: I vividly remember it coming in. But it's in October.
Speaker 3: Would be excited?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, no, we were talking about it, but
Speaker 1: I'm so surprised we didn't RSV mid October.
Speaker 3: It's around here.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 3: You should be able to make it.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very much looking forward
Speaker 1: to it. I've got an almost a month long trial
Speaker 1: in September. Oh good, but we'll be out for October. Yes, yes, Dan.
Speaker 1: What about all the Olympic athletes getting roads, especially in
Speaker 1: the springs and mountains. I didn't know that, but I don't,
Speaker 1: like automatically have some problem with that or anything. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't know if anybody has those details. Would
Speaker 1: love to hear them. Some Taylor Swift text because I
Speaker 1: know I was on the way to the show today,
Speaker 1: and our daughter called and said that, Actually I called
Speaker 1: her because she's in trough with me next week, and
Speaker 1: she said, Hey, just hear see Taylor bought her songs.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Ryan? That she bought her original
Speaker 1: songs back from the company she had signed them away
Speaker 1: to when she was young.
Speaker 7: And there's been some dispute between her and the producers,
Speaker 7: right because there's like Taylor's version of all these songs
Speaker 7: that she originally had produced.
Speaker 1: You know how much she just paid to get Taylor's
Speaker 1: version back? I can only imagine what would you guess?
Speaker 1: A billion, three hundred and ninety four million. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm more than the third of a billion? Yeah no, no,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah no. She must want those back, but
Speaker 1: but she should have them back. Hey, want to get
Speaker 1: to some hot sound of the week as well, But
Speaker 1: let me work in another call or too. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Denver, talk to a Lane. You're on the damn
Speaker 1: Capitalist Show. Welcome, Elaine. Did that become a tough name
Speaker 1: after Seinfeld started? Or maybe an even better name?
Speaker 9: You know, I didn't after Seinfeld. I really didn't get
Speaker 9: any flack about it. In fact, nobody ever brought it up.
Speaker 9: You're the probably one of the rare ones that every
Speaker 9: that ever brought it up, but thank you for the
Speaker 9: memory of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were. We were parking at a Nuggets game
Speaker 1: last month and the guy, you know, letting people into
Speaker 1: the parking lot, he had every Seinfeld character tattooed on
Speaker 1: his arms.
Speaker 9: The name was on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So what do you think and what
Speaker 1: do we name after whom?
Speaker 9: Well, I'm a Denver native. In fact, I've listened to
Speaker 9: Pete Boyles ever since he's been on the air, and
Speaker 9: you know, I remember all of his his history, he
Speaker 9: grew how he grew up, and the working in the
Speaker 9: Pennsylvania steel mills and all that. But anyway, being a
Speaker 9: Denver native, I grew up knowing a lot of people
Speaker 9: that went to that Emily griff At Opportunity School and
Speaker 9: it has served a purpose here in Denvers for a
Speaker 9: long long time. And I'm a native, so you'd think
Speaker 9: I would know the streets, but I'm not aware that
Speaker 9: there is a Griffith Street named after her. And then also,
Speaker 9: you know Elitch Gardens named for Mary Elitch. I think
Speaker 9: there's an Elitch Parkway, but it's you know, it's in
Speaker 9: the entry you get. But I don't know if they
Speaker 9: would consider a separate street away from that, away from
Speaker 9: the actually Elitch Gardens, you know, just a separate Elitch
Speaker 9: street that's not part of Elitch Parkway.
Speaker 1: What a great point. And as you were saying that,
Speaker 1: it occurred to me and guys you may know of this,
Speaker 1: it may exist. But is there a street named after
Speaker 1: Alan and Jerry Phipps, the original owners of the Broncoast.
Speaker 9: I came close to working for them. In fact, I
Speaker 9: was indirectly connected to the Phipps. There is Allen and
Speaker 9: Gerald Phipps. They had a sister who had married one
Speaker 9: of my bosses. I used to work for a guy
Speaker 9: that was in property management, so and he was connected
Speaker 9: with the Broncos due to his wife was the sister
Speaker 9: of Alan Phipps.
Speaker 1: So then yeah, small world, there's got to be something
Speaker 1: named after them. Talk about helping to shape that the
Speaker 1: trajectory of the community. Elaine, thank you for your call. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yeah, wow, because you think about how different
Speaker 1: Denver would be. Right because when the Phipps they brought
Speaker 1: the Broncos in in nineteen sixty and they were part
Speaker 1: of the AFL at that time, the NFL was obviously
Speaker 1: what really mattered, and then the AFL was trying to compete.
Speaker 1: And then you got to nineteen sixty eight, and then
Speaker 1: there was going to be the merger between the AFL
Speaker 1: and the NFL, and that's how you ended up, obviously
Speaker 1: with the AFC and the NFC. But here's the deal.
Speaker 1: They got to nineteen sixty eight and the NFL wouldn't
Speaker 1: not take the Denver Broncos or any AFL team unless
Speaker 1: they had a stadium of a certain size. Denver didn't,
Speaker 1: so they put it on the ballot to have a
Speaker 1: bond issue to be able to expand Mile High Stadium
Speaker 1: and in order to join the NFL. The voters voted
Speaker 1: it down. The voters voted it down, and then what
Speaker 1: happened was fans went grassroots. They literally went to the
Speaker 1: streets collecting money on street corners, going door to door
Speaker 1: having bake sales, and they raised enough money the fans
Speaker 1: did to be able to expand the stadium and keep
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. That's how the Broncos stayed here. But
Speaker 1: the Phipps say, is bringing this team here in the
Speaker 1: beginning and then building it up to the point they
Speaker 1: actually made it to a Super Bowl. It's got to
Speaker 1: be something named after them. So I wonder how we
Speaker 1: do this. I'm thinking about mechanically, how do we get
Speaker 1: something put into place, because it's you know, there's going
Speaker 1: to be individual control from city to city, town to town,
Speaker 1: as well as some statewide stuff. But how do we
Speaker 1: get some process in place to make sure that people
Speaker 1: who should be honored more people who should be honored
Speaker 1: get honored, because it's a real waste to not be
Speaker 1: doing that right now. I think it says something important.
Speaker 1: It says something important to kids and encourages, you know,
Speaker 1: the kind of virtue and character we want with no
Speaker 1: additional cost. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3: And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1: That song is very close to your heart, isn't it right?
Speaker 7: Oh, it's just a tradition here, and I think people
Speaker 7: are always amused by your equips within the lines there.
Speaker 3: We know that you are not looking for a new romances, not.
Speaker 1: Even close of which I try to point out each
Speaker 1: time you play the song, I think successfully, So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a maid man. Oh time, you know you
Speaker 1: get that powerball ticket, you open it up, you're reading it.
Speaker 1: It's not like you're running back down to place scratch
Speaker 1: or whatever those things.
Speaker 3: I like that analogy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, Chuck and Pueblo. You're on
Speaker 1: the Dan Kapla. Sh'll welcome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, I just came on about five minutes ago,
Speaker 5: but I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I don't know if.
Speaker 5: Anybody had stated this earlier, but I think one of
Speaker 5: the worst travesties I've ever seen regarding somebody's name being
Speaker 5: put on either a road or an event center or whatever,
Speaker 5: is the town of Shivington down the north of Lamar.
Speaker 4: They have a town.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I was doing a lot of
Speaker 1: work down.
Speaker 5: There one time, and yeah, when you drive there and
Speaker 5: you go through a town and it's named after a.
Speaker 1: Leader that took you.
Speaker 5: Know, massacre, and it's right outside well it's literally, I
Speaker 5: think it's about seven or eight miles from the site
Speaker 5: of the massacre itself. And here you go through a
Speaker 5: town that's got the name Shivington on the side of it.
Speaker 5: It's just like going to, you know, well, well, let's
Speaker 5: name a town after Hitler.
Speaker 1: Well, and obviously the good people down there don't mean
Speaker 1: to honor something bad. It just has probably been named
Speaker 1: since he was in the area and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it's yeah, oh yeah. You know, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those guys who wants to go
Speaker 1: stripping names because we find out some people did some
Speaker 1: bad things. But to me, that and then you got
Speaker 1: away the good versus the bad. But with that guy,
Speaker 1: no way. There are certain things, as Pete Boyles's and
Speaker 1: I were talking about earlier, and this is just my
Speaker 1: perspective on it. There's certain behavior that's just a disqualifier
Speaker 1: in my mind, no matter when you lived. And I
Speaker 1: think Shivington is one of those examples.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and Governor Evans at the time too, obviously.
Speaker 5: And one thing real quick plug for Publo is one
Speaker 5: thing that's really nice. And you know, we get the
Speaker 5: bad wrap down here sometimes. But some of our major
Speaker 5: streets are named after our Medal of Honor winners down there,
Speaker 5: charl Sitter and Jerry Murphy and even Joe Martinez, he's
Speaker 5: the Medal of Honor, but he's a war hero. Of
Speaker 5: our major thoroughfares are named after war heroes. And I'm
Speaker 5: trying to think I don't remember any major roads down
Speaker 5: here that are named after politicians.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 5: I can't think of any.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for that, Chuck, thank you. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, is listen. It doesn't cost us anything, right,
Speaker 1: the cost of a sign to just take some of
Speaker 1: the meaningless street names and change them in Chuck's example
Speaker 1: medal of honor winners. But it can be other walks
Speaker 1: of life as well. Now, obviously we have to start
Speaker 1: at the top with the people who die for us, right,
Speaker 1: So you start at the top with military, police, fire,
Speaker 1: But then you go to these other categories that are
Speaker 1: so critical to our success as a society, and people
Speaker 1: heroic in different ways, and you start mixing those names
Speaker 1: in and then it just it's all positive. It sends
Speaker 1: a positive message about what we value, what we honor.
Speaker 1: And then kids, you know, if there's a chance to
Speaker 1: teach him what does that street name mean? Not that
Speaker 1: they're going to ask you, but it's a chance to
Speaker 1: tell him. It's all upside with virtually no cost. But
Speaker 1: I do think it has to be very systematic. I
Speaker 1: have to identify each of these categories. Start by coming
Speaker 1: up with somebody really noble and admirable in each of
Speaker 1: these categories, it will not be hard. I think the
Speaker 1: one category you skip is talk radio. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody well other than Alan Berg, right, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that's where the whole conversation started earlier, is there should
Speaker 1: be a straight street named after Elan Berg if you're
Speaker 1: new to the area. He was a fiery talk show host.
Speaker 1: I remember as a young guy listening to him, and
Speaker 1: you know, he t took on, you know, some racist
Speaker 1: and this is oversimplifying the story, and he was killed
Speaker 1: for it. And there should be a street named after
Speaker 1: Alan Burke. It doesn't mean I agreed with him on
Speaker 1: every issue or every approach he took to every call,
Speaker 1: but there should be a street named after him. You
Speaker 1: know what's kind of cool.
Speaker 10: I don't know if you've ever been down Santa Fe,
Speaker 10: but what you were talking about naming streets after a
Speaker 10: military or stretches of streets Danny Deets.
Speaker 1: Yes, Danny Deets Memorial Highway correct, and you know what
Speaker 1: I would say. And I love seeing that, Kelly, and
Speaker 1: it puts such a smile on my face every time
Speaker 1: I drive down C four seventy and see now loose
Speaker 1: it's been changed to Kendrick Castillo and that that's just
Speaker 1: honoring the best of us. But I think, like in
Speaker 1: the Danny Deets example, I love it when you have
Speaker 1: that stretch of highway, but I think it needs to
Speaker 1: be a regular street name so that when people are
Speaker 1: traveling on a street or it shows up in your
Speaker 1: Google Maps or whatever, it shows up that way. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Don't you think there's more to
Speaker 1: a regular street name.
Speaker 10: Well, you could name the Broncos where the stadium is
Speaker 10: John Elway Highway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, on the highway. And you know that's the thing.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna name anything after politicians, and I don't
Speaker 1: think you should, certainly not living ones. But if you're
Speaker 1: gonna name anything after anybody, I twenty five should be
Speaker 1: the Owens Expressway or something. I mean, Bill Owens made
Speaker 1: that happen. I just don't think it should be politicians,
Speaker 1: even the ones that I like. But hey, thank you
Speaker 1: everybody for the great conversation. The Texters Pete Boyles love
Speaker 1: that stretch as well. I'm in trial again next week
Speaker 1: and so you'll have a Law and Order on the
Speaker 1: dan CAPLA show. Sheriff Steve Raims lighting it up he'll
Speaker 1: be here Monday and Tuesday. As soon as the trial ends,
Speaker 1: I'll get back in studio. Look forward to that with you.
Speaker 1: Have a wonderful weekend, just tremendous weather ahead on the
Speaker 1: front range and join the Sheriff Monday on the Dan
Speaker 1: Capla Show