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Speaker 2: Basketball is gonna finally officially start in a week less
Speaker 2: than a week. Actually, they played last night, and Arizona
Speaker 2: football continues to trudge along in the final stages of
Speaker 2: the season. You went to the press press compas today, right,
Speaker 2: football some kind of kind of hard not hard hitting,
Speaker 2: but they kind of try to go there with some
Speaker 2: of the players. They don't did you go yesterday?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't go, yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yesterday. Everyone still kind of kid gloves with Brennan.
Speaker 2: I gues I I think, I don't know. And what's
Speaker 2: he gonna say? He's he's he's not a very lively guy.
Speaker 2: He's just a kind of a dude who gives you
Speaker 2: answers that are not very quotable. Uh, kind of like
Speaker 2: his offense, true creator, not memorable, creative.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But today you know you had t Mac and who's
Speaker 2: so two possible NFL guys, right, and obviously guys are
Speaker 2: probably gonna leave here. They have the seventy is a senior.
Speaker 3: No, no, he's a junior.
Speaker 4: He's a junior.
Speaker 5: He can, he can, but he's projected to go in
Speaker 5: the first and Tim Mac has gone to Yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean the top top five pick.
Speaker 2: Without without ever saying anything. Right, I don't think he
Speaker 2: has to say anything. You just you just know he's
Speaker 2: like Mike bid be his sophomer year. You know, you're
Speaker 2: just waiting for him to say it officially and you
Speaker 2: don't hear it until.
Speaker 5: It's the season's ob Yeah, you know, oh, I'm going
Speaker 5: to the draft pool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, breaking news, right, yeah, yeah right, we already know.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah no, but but you know, Jonah ahead, Jonah
Speaker 5: is one of them that you know, he maybe a
Speaker 5: first round draft pick, maybe a second round draft pick.
Speaker 5: So that's one of the ones that fans are wondering.
Speaker 5: Is he going to be back for a second season, well,
Speaker 5: for his finals.
Speaker 2: The final season? Yeah? What four? I mean what four?
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 2: It could be it could be another season like this,
Speaker 2: could be worse, could could be. Really you you were
Speaker 2: in maybe a week or two ago, two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: whoever it was. Uh So I'm giving you, are giving
Speaker 2: you the magic eate ball. You're gonna shake it. The
Speaker 2: reasons why this team is not very good is offensive
Speaker 2: coaching staff. Wow, Okay, I'm going to go there.
Speaker 5: You know I don't I'm not one to one hundred
Speaker 5: percent blame the coaching staff. But results are results. Last year,
Speaker 5: I was gonna had an explosive offense. Yes, you're missing
Speaker 5: Jordan Morgan up front, you're missing Jacob Cowing on the
Speaker 5: on the receiving core, but you still had like eighty
Speaker 5: five percent of your offense back and most of your
Speaker 5: offensive lineback. And you've turned a All Conference, All Pack
Speaker 5: twelve Freshmen of the Year quarterback and no Fafida into
Speaker 5: a guy that looks rattled, looks dazed and confused at
Speaker 5: times out there on the football field, and an offense
Speaker 5: that getting seven points before half looks like pulling teeth
Speaker 5: a time.
Speaker 2: Yes, to know your question. So is it a is
Speaker 2: it a thing of creativity, movement, or just it's just
Speaker 2: not good.
Speaker 5: I think a major part of this is the playbook.
Speaker 5: There's not a lot of creativity in the playbook. I
Speaker 5: don't think it plays to the player's strengths, especially when
Speaker 5: it comes to No fa Fida. His best attributes are
Speaker 5: the short game and getting the ball out quick and
Speaker 5: making quick decisions. If you look at the offense, how
Speaker 5: many yards? How many routes do you see? Fifteen plus yards?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: And he's searching, searching, searching. That's not his game.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. So you're you're a
Speaker 2: common dude, right, You're just a dude. I'm sorry to say.
Speaker 2: You know, Gizell's not going to come and knock on
Speaker 2: your door to have a baby. So you're just a
Speaker 2: normal dude. Well, I'm talking about the the Gizell, not Giel.
Speaker 2: So you're just a normal dude. If you see that,
Speaker 2: and a few other people see that. In fact, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have one guy on today, former ULI player, sees that.
Speaker 2: How come they don't see that?
Speaker 5: I think they see it, But it's still a case
Speaker 5: of Hey, I've been around college football for a long time,
Speaker 5: so smartly, I think I know what I'm doing, and
Speaker 5: sometimes I'm stubborn.
Speaker 3: Well, well, so age comes Severn.
Speaker 2: Seven games in is a pretty good simple size to say. Well,
Speaker 2: if you think you know what you're doing, you're not doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, it is, But I mean you turn
Speaker 5: you turn it over to the new offensive play caller
Speaker 5: in Matt Atkins who's taken over the play calling role,
Speaker 5: and you have the situation still the same offensively, So
Speaker 5: what do you have to go back on?
Speaker 3: It's it's the playbook, so style, it's a scheme.
Speaker 2: He was there today and you listened. I didn't listen
Speaker 2: to him today, too busy. What did he say?
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of it had to talk about
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter success and how easy going and how
Speaker 5: free flowing the offense was, and players not really overthinking
Speaker 5: and just going out there and playing football, playing reactionary football.
Speaker 5: And how do you get that from the start of
Speaker 5: the game to the finish of the game instead of
Speaker 5: just the fourth quarter. How do you get that quick
Speaker 5: reaction and free flowing throughout the whole entire course of
Speaker 5: the game. And for me, what did they do? They
Speaker 5: played hurry up. They were playing from behind, their playing
Speaker 5: hurry up offense and snap decisions.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're you're a reporter from the West Virginia side.
Speaker 2: I'm the West Virginia coach. Ask me a question about
Speaker 2: how did that happen?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, why do you think Arizona's offense was able
Speaker 5: to have so much success in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 2: Well, well, you with the goeasy cats. Last I checked,
Speaker 2: there were our second and third string guys in there.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's two teams on there. There's two teams
Speaker 2: on that field. There's reasons for everything. Okay, so we've
Speaker 2: known that they couldn't move the ball until this last
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. What if that was the reason and not
Speaker 2: so much their their flow of the office.
Speaker 5: But I mean, and again we don't know Res Virginia's
Speaker 5: wat roster, you know, but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I know what you're saying. There is up when you're
Speaker 5: up thirty one to whatever the score is.
Speaker 2: Dallas played San Francisco two days ago. Same thing happened,
Speaker 2: Same thing happened. They'd already had the game one. Oh
Speaker 2: they moved the ball. Well, oh you moved the ball.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, because we didn't give a crap.
Speaker 5: But I mean, sometimes you just have to look at
Speaker 5: the way the style was in terms of the up tempo,
Speaker 5: the fast pace of it. You're not sitting back wondering what.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they played differently than they have played party.
Speaker 2: So did West Virginia. One. They should have never been
Speaker 2: in that situation, no, right, but they and they've been
Speaker 2: in that situation four or five times this year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, yes, thirty one points is thirty
Speaker 5: one points in the defense didn't look great, But how
Speaker 5: many guys on defense are you missing? How many guys
Speaker 5: aren't out there on the football field, and so to
Speaker 5: be able to hold an offense like that and contain
Speaker 5: an offense like that, I thought it was an impressive job.
Speaker 5: And you just couldn't get any relief from your offensive
Speaker 5: side of the ball.
Speaker 2: So they have four more games left, three to get
Speaker 2: to a bull of us. This guy's asked this question
Speaker 2: of many people who've been in that seat. They're bowl eligible?
Speaker 2: Are they bowl watchable? Are they the bull invitible?
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I don't think they're going to
Speaker 5: do a bowl game, Okay, so I'll say that. So
Speaker 5: they're not going to a bowl game. I think you're
Speaker 5: going to be seeing the team fighting for five and
Speaker 5: seven at the end of the year against ASU and
Speaker 5: that's your bowl game. Tucson Territorial Cup is here bowlgame one?
Speaker 5: Maybe they no, they need to they need to win
Speaker 5: that one. And thinking about that at the beginning of
Speaker 5: the year, as Arizona State, Arizona State's probably going to
Speaker 5: a bowl this year. Yeah, Arizona's probably on the outside
Speaker 5: looking in at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2: Total opposites, yeah, very much so, very much so. Such
Speaker 2: as the world of football college football this year and
Speaker 2: how it's turned upside down with a lot of things,
Speaker 2: especially in the state. You know, who would have thought
Speaker 2: if you would have given me odds on okay, a
Speaker 2: issue is going to be better than U of A
Speaker 2: in terms of record or whatever circumstances, I would have said,
Speaker 2: what are you three to one? No, I think I'll
Speaker 2: save my money.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I want to bet that. I want to
Speaker 5: bet that because you looked at ASU's offensive staff, wasn't
Speaker 5: that impressive? Their defense was banned up. It on paper
Speaker 5: looked like they're going to be the worst team in
Speaker 5: the Big twelve. Yeah, at least one of the bottom theaters.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And instead instead Utah and Arizona have been at the bottom.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who would have ever thought that?
Speaker 3: And Utah has their quarterback.
Speaker 5: Everybody's said, hey, once this guy's coming back gam Rising,
Speaker 5: everything's going to be all good. Right, not so much?
Speaker 2: Let me throw this. What if I know they were
Speaker 2: good last year and no poo poo on Jeffish because
Speaker 2: he did a great job and his assistant. What if
Speaker 2: last year was just the different year, I mean, just
Speaker 2: one of those things that comes out of the world
Speaker 2: every now and again, and that was that year, and
Speaker 2: they would have gone back to this year.
Speaker 5: I don't think last year was just one of those years.
Speaker 5: I think last year was something foundationally special. But the
Speaker 5: issue is you don't have the same staff, you don't
Speaker 5: have the same coaches back then. I think this year
Speaker 5: goes to show how important coaching is in college.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, with all question, I say that all the time, Troy.
Speaker 2: If there's things that I've learned in this job for
Speaker 2: thirty some years, coaching matters. Talent does to a degree
Speaker 2: because you could if you have a good coach, you
Speaker 2: can make the you can get the guys to play
Speaker 2: for you. And emotions, How emotions play a part in
Speaker 2: every game, because sometimes kids don't want to play, sometimes
Speaker 2: they do.
Speaker 5: And you know what, just looking at how the season
Speaker 5: has played out last year, arizonasanom and on the offense line,
Speaker 5: defense line, you look at the depth that they had
Speaker 5: and the development that they had a lot of those
Speaker 5: guys are starters now and now where's the depth.
Speaker 2: Well, so we're gonna have We're gonna talk a lot
Speaker 2: of football this hour. We're gonna have Barry Julian who
Speaker 2: played at U of A from eighty eight to ninety three.
Speaker 2: I think it is when I first covered the team
Speaker 2: in eighty eight and then moved on. I was gonna
Speaker 2: say now I lost my transition. Oh, I've said this
Speaker 2: that one of the problems I sense, and I'm not
Speaker 2: close to my I don't know the pres Conference anymore
Speaker 2: because I don't care. I don't follow a team as
Speaker 2: closely as I should because I don't care. But I
Speaker 2: talk about it here because I see that there's a
Speaker 2: disconnect between the players and the coaches. I think to
Speaker 2: a degree there is. And anytime when you're going through
Speaker 2: a three and five season, when you're projected to be
Speaker 2: a Big twelve title contender, a college football playoff contender,
Speaker 2: there's going to be a disconnect.
Speaker 3: There has to be.
Speaker 5: There has to be because the expectations were so high
Speaker 5: and that's why you came back and they're not being that.
Speaker 2: So, going further with you, do you think that they've
Speaker 2: given up now?
Speaker 5: Because I don't, because Noah t Mac and the guys
Speaker 5: that have come back, you can tell how hard they're
Speaker 5: trying out there and how much they're putting into it.
Speaker 5: It's just not working. As frustrating for them. I think
Speaker 5: you've clearly seen that. For Tetuo, he talked about his
Speaker 5: attitude change this season in terms of yeah, about his
Speaker 5: body language, he said that it was poor and that
Speaker 5: he had family and friends telling him his body language
Speaker 5: was poor and he's adjusted since that.
Speaker 2: So I must have missed that because I only watched
Speaker 2: like the first eight minutes.
Speaker 5: Was it in the middle of the press cop in
Speaker 5: the middle of Yeah, but talking about that's that question,
Speaker 5: I think it was Michael lev Okay, sorry, and.
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good question when in a
Speaker 2: good answer, I guess.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, getting advice from family and friends and
Speaker 5: people that have been around him saying you need to
Speaker 5: change this. Yes, and then for him to do that,
Speaker 5: you don't see a lot of first round draft picks,
Speaker 5: guys that are going to top five picks do that.
Speaker 5: They're going to be like, you know what, I don't
Speaker 5: need to do anything. I'm gonna be out a ye
Speaker 5: in a year.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, no. And guess what, those people that are
Speaker 2: going to pay you lots of money pay attention.
Speaker 3: To stuff like that. And he went on and changed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and he said, ily got his first TD
Speaker 2: the first time since the first week, right, so we'll see. Okay,
Speaker 2: so today we're going to have a Barry Julian, a
Speaker 2: former U of A football player. I met him over
Speaker 2: the weekend after game. He sat behind me and I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: who's this dude? You know he's this dude is he's
Speaker 2: making some great observations at the city behind me and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, excuse me, And then he says, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I played in eighty eight to ninety. I'm taking I
Speaker 2: covered that team home. I don't remember you, probably because
Speaker 2: I'm old and remember him, but he covered him when
Speaker 2: I covered him in a e eighty nine ninety and
Speaker 2: he was part of that team. So we'll talk to
Speaker 2: him about what he says, because he's made some great
Speaker 2: observations and I think he'll be candid with what he says.
Speaker 2: He's he's not tied to anybody, you know, he's he
Speaker 2: can make some observations. And then in the second hour,
Speaker 2: we're going to have Mike Vader uh the International Baseball
Speaker 2: Federation or whatever. He is going to have big games
Speaker 2: this weekend and I think he's in charge of it.
Speaker 2: So he's head of the Mexican Baseball League or best
Speaker 2: Baseball that come in with in October. So we'll talk
Speaker 2: more about baseball and other things going on the World Series.
Speaker 2: You have a dog in the fight? No, no, do
Speaker 2: you care? Uh?
Speaker 5: I just wanted to see the Dodgers lose and that's
Speaker 5: not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know so probably Ryan did too.
Speaker 5: I'm a bitter Diamondback fan. I'll be honest.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, so you got so did you care? I mean,
Speaker 2: I was just hoping for a good series. Game one
Speaker 2: was good, but then was good. Last night was just
Speaker 2: oh god, no, yeah, well, I think that Game one
Speaker 2: that was kind of it, right, you kind of lose
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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to Eye on the Ball here
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Speaker 13: Did you forget that I was gonna be on today?
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I see his Facebook posts all the time
Speaker 2: and very envious. So now I wanted your expert interpretations
Speaker 2: or observations on what's going on basketball and football because
Speaker 2: you're you know, you you've been around a long time,
Speaker 2: You've seen a lot of games. Uh, what do you
Speaker 2: make of this football team? Outside of the obvious? What?
Speaker 3: What? What?
Speaker 13: Okay, let's let's define what is the obvious that they're
Speaker 13: not any good.
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna ask you the reasons why or or whatever.
Speaker 2: I have Troy here, so he's you know, close to
Speaker 2: the thing as well. But you know, you've seen teams
Speaker 2: come and go.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, what can you say other than that
Speaker 13: this this season is shockingly disappointing, right, And I think
Speaker 13: we're at the point now where I mean, I think,
Speaker 13: in the words of Shot Millie, you could make the
Speaker 13: arguments that, yeah, a lot of it has to do
Speaker 13: with the coaching staff, but you gotta, you gotta kind
Speaker 13: of like split it up a little bit. The coaching
Speaker 13: staff is the biggest I mean, it's obviously it's it's
Speaker 13: the obvious choice where to lay the blame. But now
Speaker 13: you also have to look into the scheme and the
Speaker 13: way they're running things, which ultimately fault in the coaching staff.
Speaker 13: But also you have to look at at the players too.
Speaker 13: It's like, where are they at now in their mindset
Speaker 13: of what has become not a wasted season, because there's
Speaker 13: still four games left, but a season that fell so
Speaker 13: short of what I guess so many of us thought
Speaker 13: could have been. You know, and uh, frustration is an
Speaker 13: understatement given the amount of talent that we know exists
Speaker 13: on this roster, coupled with the injury bug, coupled with
Speaker 13: just the overall just decisions that have been made within
Speaker 13: this staff. It's just I don't I don't know, man,
Speaker 13: It's it's a witch's brew of of of yeah nothing.
Speaker 2: Before you ask him, Troy, I was gonna you said
Speaker 2: witches brew, which is fantastic analogy. I was gonna say, so,
Speaker 2: this too stews like at the restaurant's called misery. Yeah
Speaker 2: you want, yeah, you want something?
Speaker 13: Yeah, like an applete aptly named after you know, the
Speaker 13: Stephen King novel as well, where the author comes in
Speaker 13: basically bludgeons or not excuse me that the fan comes
Speaker 13: in and bludgeons the author, which I could foresee. And
Speaker 13: if you look kind of carefully, Fancier locally have gone
Speaker 13: to bludgeting the coaching staff pretty quickly here.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh for sure.
Speaker 5: I mean this is probably the quickest I've seen this
Speaker 5: fan base turn on the coaching staff, especially for football.
Speaker 2: I guess, well I were in the we're in this
Speaker 2: kind of age, right some social media they would have
Speaker 2: done the same thing for Macovic.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they.
Speaker 2: Would have done and I did they did? They give
Speaker 2: someone a grace.
Speaker 5: I think there was always let's see if he can recruit,
Speaker 5: like if he could get the guys here, maybe things
Speaker 5: will change.
Speaker 2: But that he didn't even care about that.
Speaker 13: I don't know how long that lasted though, I don't know.
Speaker 13: I think I think someone someone's flame was was burning
Speaker 13: real bright for that first like six months of his
Speaker 13: being here in Tucson, not just necessarily his coaching tenure,
Speaker 13: but trying trying to turn Khalil Tate into a pocket
Speaker 13: passer when the opposite maybe would have been a better move.
Speaker 13: Like the first and the things we're not going to
Speaker 13: go as planned.
Speaker 2: He would have saved his job had he not done that.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe, But you know what, you know what you
Speaker 2: know what it turned for me for something, and you
Speaker 2: were involved with this. You want to guess what that?
Speaker 3: No, go tell me.
Speaker 2: So we're at the press conference in the in the
Speaker 2: press conference room at the football stadium, and you asked
Speaker 2: him about his childhood or something like that, you know,
Speaker 2: how was it growing up being And he looks at
Speaker 2: you says, uh, why you ask him this question? And
Speaker 2: then you you you respond to him, and I'm thinking
Speaker 2: to myself, I'm thinking, because you're not you're not available
Speaker 2: any other time.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I asked him what it
Speaker 13: was like selling insurance. Yeah, he was an insurance salesman
Speaker 13: before he turned into coaching football, which incidentally, he actually
Speaker 13: gave a really good response. He just like gave me
Speaker 13: flat asking the question at that moment, which I mean again,
Speaker 13: like you noted, like what else was I going to
Speaker 13: ask you?
Speaker 2: Right, You're not gonna pull them aside and say, oh,
Speaker 2: Gil got a quick question.
Speaker 5: But there was no one on ones there there's still
Speaker 5: and you know, you know, looking at this season, guys
Speaker 5: for Arizona three and five and fan base down its
Speaker 5: throat and everything like that, how much different would this
Speaker 5: be with just two games Texas that game and this
Speaker 5: past week against West Virginia the ball bounces a couple
Speaker 5: different ways, and three with this second half of the schedule,
Speaker 5: a week or half of the schedule. What would be
Speaker 5: the outlook with the schedule and just a couple of
Speaker 5: bounces the other way?
Speaker 13: Yes, I mean then then we're talking at least it's respectable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 13: You beat the team that you're supposed to beat, right,
Speaker 13: like you're supposed to beat West Virginia across the board.
Speaker 13: We're not making There's no excuse for that. A team
Speaker 13: traveling from across the country that's more injured than you,
Speaker 13: like backup quarterback missing, they're still off. I mean there
Speaker 13: there's just no excuse. And I mean I even said
Speaker 13: it on the broadcast on Saturday night. You it's nice
Speaker 13: that we got a chance to see the glimmer of
Speaker 13: something of life in that fourth quarter, But it's like,
Speaker 13: does it really have to get to that point?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I know, this is this is uh Tom Brady trying
Speaker 2: to save his marriage in the in the final two
Speaker 2: weeks of his marriage. Honestly, what's the point?
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, and it's and it's and it's so it's
Speaker 13: so disheartening because again we know, we know what this
Speaker 13: team is capable of. And I think that's what that's
Speaker 13: what burns Totter. Right, for all the success that they
Speaker 13: had a year ago, and for all of the expectations,
Speaker 13: even if they were unjustly like too high, given what
Speaker 13: they succeeded in doing last year, they weren't totally out
Speaker 13: of the realm of realism, like that that team last
Speaker 13: year could be doing great things this year.
Speaker 3: Right, They're just not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and imagine, imagine your broadcast, your your website, Troy
Speaker 2: might lack of optimism would have been fantastic two years
Speaker 2: into it, thinking holy crap, this this two year stretch
Speaker 2: is unprecedented.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean they were set up
Speaker 5: for a two year stretch that Arizona football stever had
Speaker 5: never seen, right and it was right there. And I
Speaker 5: think that's the frustrating part. And the other frustrating part is,
Speaker 5: you know, everybody talks about the offensive issues. The defense
Speaker 5: was the question mark coming into the season, and by
Speaker 5: all accounts, I know, there's injuries and they gave up
Speaker 5: thirty one points, but that is one hell of a
Speaker 5: coaching job by joining King of his defensive staff, and
Speaker 5: it's shown weekend and week out. But when you're not
Speaker 5: getting any production offensively, and that was the thing supposed
Speaker 5: to be your you know, bread and butter, it's frustrating
Speaker 5: to a fan base when when your bread and butter
Speaker 5: is the problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 13: We can add over say, the the job that Dwayne
Speaker 13: Kina has done this season, given everything that he's had to,
Speaker 13: all the challenges he had to overcome with the injuries
Speaker 13: and all that, which is just like just the nice
Speaker 13: blade between the ribs of of of a season that's
Speaker 13: gone pretty much downhill since Week four. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 13: what can you say because at this point there are
Speaker 13: no excuses anymore, right because you're at the point where,
Speaker 13: let's be honest, we're passing midway point of the season.
Speaker 13: Every team you're facing is injured, right, not more than others.
Speaker 13: So what does it come down to? It comes down
Speaker 13: to coaching, to scheme, to want, to desire, and I
Speaker 13: don't I don't necessarily think that that wanton desire is
Speaker 13: lacking in this squad, despite you know where they're at
Speaker 13: right now. You can still see the fire obviously, otherwise
Speaker 13: you wouldn't have seen no op Fid had taken himself
Speaker 13: and you know, truck like three defenders into the end
Speaker 13: zone and that's fourth quarter, And if that's your team captain,
Speaker 13: you follow his lead, right, But it's just a it's
Speaker 13: just a cumulative everything that has gotten to this point
Speaker 13: where now you're wondering, are the coaching staff going to
Speaker 13: be around in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3: Right? Right?
Speaker 2: There could be some changes other than the head coach. Right,
Speaker 2: let me ask you, Damien, because I know you don't
Speaker 2: typically do this. I know your former colleague did with
Speaker 2: David Kelly, maybe on online but maybe not on TV.
Speaker 2: Do you are you allowed to editorial wise or have
Speaker 2: you given a situation like this?
Speaker 13: I trute not to, because, like I mean, I have
Speaker 13: my own opinions, but normally I just kind of like
Speaker 13: keep those to myself. That was never my strengths. That
Speaker 13: was Dave Cooney and David Kelly's strength. But when it
Speaker 13: comes to editorializing, now you're at the point where it's
Speaker 13: like your eyes can't can't lie. Like like the product
Speaker 13: on the field, it doesn't deceive you. You see exactly
Speaker 13: what's going on, and there are only again so many
Speaker 13: excuses and so many avenues of blame that you can
Speaker 13: place before it comes down to the reality of man,
Speaker 13: this this there's something wrong with this team. They have
Speaker 13: not figured out what that is, and that is super concerning.
Speaker 13: So that's not even editorializing. That's just observation that anybody
Speaker 13: can see, right like opinion or not. Let's just let's
Speaker 13: just tell it how it is, Like this team is
Speaker 13: just bad and right now, really the crux of bitfalls
Speaker 13: on the coaching staff. As far as I'm concerned, No I.
Speaker 2: Agree, So let's move to basketball real quick, at least
Speaker 2: the men's side. Uh, We've seen a couple of exhibition games.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure we can get from them. But what
Speaker 2: what do you like in what you see?
Speaker 13: And Trey Townsend, we trust.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been That's where I would have
Speaker 2: gone to first. Yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean that that kid is is going to
Speaker 13: be fun to watch, going to be fun to watch.
Speaker 13: And I will say this in the press conference last night,
Speaker 13: I liked the questions you were asking Tommy Steve about
Speaker 13: Caleb and his maturation and and the one question specifically
Speaker 13: of how how has Caleb learned to appreciate what you're
Speaker 13: trying to get him to appreciate? I thought kind of
Speaker 13: hits fail on the head, because if we're going to
Speaker 13: see any growth out of.
Speaker 2: Him, that's kind of the whole point, right exactly. That's
Speaker 2: why he asked it. I mean, you could tell the
Speaker 2: guy to bring in the newspaper, but if he doesn't
Speaker 2: or doesn't enjoy it, what's the point of bringing in
Speaker 2: the newspaper.
Speaker 13: That's exactly right, That's exactly right, And I think that's
Speaker 13: going to be a very interesting storyline. Maybe the storyline
Speaker 13: of the season, because you know he Caleb has said
Speaker 13: the same thing going into the season that he said
Speaker 13: last season, which was, you know, team, team, team, I'm
Speaker 13: here to support the guys. And yet you know, uh,
Speaker 13: he was he was being Caleb love what comes naturally
Speaker 13: to him, which is when when you know he's got
Speaker 13: the ball, maybe times out of ten, he's going to
Speaker 13: shoot that ball.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 13: So let's see how that progresses over the course of
Speaker 13: this final season for him and what he's learned, if anything,
Speaker 13: and that'll be interesting to watch.
Speaker 2: So so both of you the question to both of you,
Speaker 2: then involving Caleb, you first try so okay, we have
Speaker 2: we know how good he is, right and what he
Speaker 2: can do and what he can't do or whatever. Uh,
Speaker 2: He's there's four dudes on this roster who are NBA
Speaker 2: prospects give give one or whatever his name is in
Speaker 2: ESPN has him the fourth. He hears him like eighty fourth, uh,
Speaker 2: with with the Carter higher Brad LeeJ and kJ and
Speaker 2: then and then Krebs. Okay, four or five of them?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So if this, if Caleb's that good and we've seen it,
Speaker 2: why is he so underrated NBA wise?
Speaker 5: I don't think his game translates to the NBA, and
Speaker 5: I think they're trying to get where This is where
Speaker 5: Tommy and the staff is kind of helping the Milana
Speaker 5: help not only helping the team, but helping his game
Speaker 5: for the next level is can you score with the
Speaker 5: ball and without the ball in your hand? Can you
Speaker 5: be that guy that goes around screens and keeps on
Speaker 5: moving and finds a way to score it? Because at
Speaker 5: the NBA level, he's not going to have the ball
Speaker 5: in his hands a lot. So can you be that
Speaker 5: scorer without the ball in your hand? And you're seeing
Speaker 5: that play out here at Arizona, and I think that's
Speaker 5: going to help him for his chance at an NBA
Speaker 5: shot effectively?
Speaker 13: Can you keep moving?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Is he right?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 2: You what you follow the NBA? Damon?
Speaker 13: I do for the nature of my job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So let me ask you, is there a
Speaker 2: what do you call it? A comparable?
Speaker 5: I think a comparable And this is a very bad
Speaker 5: comparison because I don't think he could do it at
Speaker 5: that high of a level. And it's not a knock
Speaker 5: on Levit's just how good this player is. Is a
Speaker 5: Jamal Crawford high volume score you're going to take a
Speaker 5: lot of shots to get to your twenty points. But
Speaker 5: I don't think he can be offensively efficient as a
Speaker 5: guy like that, and he doesn't have the ball handling
Speaker 5: skills that a Jamal Crawford has.
Speaker 13: All of that is true, and actually that's that's actually
Speaker 13: a very good comparison with if you like, put the
Speaker 13: parameters around it, you just put around Actually, wow, I
Speaker 13: didn't even think about that.
Speaker 3: That dang, nice one, Troy. I like that. Thank you.
Speaker 13: That makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a good thought every now and then.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you depicted our show to do it. Thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Anybody else you know, did you see Carter?
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought Jalen paid well, really well. I
Speaker 2: did my story on him because I'm gonna save my
Speaker 2: Carter story for later. But Carter Bryant was I said,
Speaker 2: holy crap, the wonder they went after this kid because
Speaker 2: he can do so much.
Speaker 3: He's the most.
Speaker 13: Underwrited afterwards, did say afterwards about Carter saying that now
Speaker 13: and now, it's a matter of what I the kid
Speaker 13: knows that do so much, then it's a matter of
Speaker 13: it wasn't pretty much seeing the game as.
Speaker 2: A whole, right, Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13: Not not having such tunnel vision was that kind of point.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And then my question to him after it
Speaker 2: was because he's facing the people, He's facing the kjs
Speaker 2: and the Wells and all that. Like like Lutska teams,
Speaker 2: the second string would get the first string to play
Speaker 2: better and they would get better in return. He's that
Speaker 2: guy that's going to benefit from playing against better people.
Speaker 13: Agreed. Agreed, Hey can we can we talk a second
Speaker 13: about Henry?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I let me tell you because
Speaker 2: I love the guy.
Speaker 13: But go ahead, wait wait, okay, what do you You
Speaker 13: love the guy? But what?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, But I wanted to hear your observation
Speaker 2: because when I first saw him two years ago, I'm
Speaker 2: thinking this kid could stretch it. He could do a
Speaker 2: lot of different things. He just needed to gain some weight.
Speaker 2: Maybe he needs to he needs to the demon almedia
Speaker 2: uh diet.
Speaker 13: The tape for him. Yeah, no, I I was. I
Speaker 13: wasn't surprised, but it was just so nice to see
Speaker 13: in that first game, and to a lesser extent in
Speaker 13: this game his range right, Like in the warm ups
Speaker 13: last week, I watched him, I was standing right the
Speaker 13: her baseline because I was getting ready to do my
Speaker 13: broadcast out there, and I'm pretty sure he went six
Speaker 13: for six from the on the arc from my end,
Speaker 13: went to the top of the key. I think he
Speaker 13: may went five or six top of the key, and
Speaker 13: then I know what he did on the other side.
Speaker 13: But I was like, man like pure seven, like Frank
Speaker 13: Kaminski vibes Wisconsin, like, if you get an opportunity to
Speaker 13: show that off, and then he did. Then he did
Speaker 13: show it off in the game later that night, which
Speaker 13: was exciting. And he's only done that a handful of times.
Speaker 13: Because he only had the opportunity to do that a
Speaker 13: handful of times. I'm like, ooh, that's gonna be that.
Speaker 13: That's another thing that's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 5: And honestly, I think one thing that people don't talk
Speaker 5: enough about him is his toughness. A lot of European
Speaker 5: players did not for a lack of toughness, playing a
Speaker 5: little bit of a softer brand of basketball. Last night,
Speaker 5: he took the ball and he made a power move
Speaker 5: into the post and went up to go dunk it over.
Speaker 5: The dude just tried to straight up dunk it. Got fouled,
Speaker 5: went to the foul line and hit his foul shots.
Speaker 5: But you can't you can't teach that mentality. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: throw it down right on.
Speaker 2: So just real quick before you go, because we got
Speaker 2: to go h in the last few years, including Sean's
Speaker 2: big guys, I'm going to say that this is the
Speaker 2: best big guy he's uh that you has had in
Speaker 2: that time. And I just think of Collocal Caleb Tarzuski,
Speaker 2: who else two bells, two bells. Yes, he's gonna better
Speaker 2: than anybody else. I could be wrong. You think.
Speaker 13: Every time about Henry Henry. Oh wow, I don't know, man,
Speaker 13: I got to see more evidence of something. I don't know.
Speaker 13: I don't know if I can put the nail on
Speaker 13: the head right there. I think I think a lot
Speaker 13: of it will come down to that toughness and just
Speaker 13: like just instinct, you know what I mean, Like get
Speaker 13: the ball down the lane and do not be afraid
Speaker 13: to just break somebody's face. Yeah, go up there, plam
Speaker 13: it down and do your job right, be a legit
Speaker 13: rim protector and just don't be afraid. And that's not
Speaker 13: say he wasn't afraid before, but now he's going to
Speaker 13: get the opportunity, especially depending on how mo mold situation
Speaker 13: pans out, how much longer heat out for Let's let's
Speaker 13: see it. The approve will be in the pudding right.
Speaker 2: Thank you Damian for showing up. Thank you even though
Speaker 2: you forgot about you.
Speaker 13: Thanks man always, Man always, you're talking with you day.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Iying the Ball here at Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today is Troy
Speaker 2: I just send from Goezy Cats. Ryan is control. Now
Speaker 2: we have Barry Julian Ua football from nineteen eighty eight
Speaker 2: to nineteen ninety two. Three three post game you know,
Speaker 2: you know playoffs not playoffs, but you know bowl games
Speaker 2: we did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on Steve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good to talk to you. I told everybody
Speaker 2: there was this dude behind me. He was talking Tom
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking he's got some great insight on what's
Speaker 2: going on in this place. Who is the guy? And
Speaker 2: uh then I find out you. I'm thinking, I gotta
Speaker 2: have you on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good to see you. Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3: We played in uh three Bowl games when I was there,
Speaker 3: Copper Copper. Yeah, we played in the Copper Bowl there
Speaker 3: in eighty nine. There was in our home stadium against
Speaker 3: North Carolina State.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh then, yeah, then I think I believe in ninety
Speaker 3: we went to uh Hawaiian and played in the well.
Speaker 2: Before you go to the third one. I don't think
Speaker 2: you guys showed up in Hawaii.
Speaker 3: No, we didn't know that. That one was the tough one.
Speaker 3: We uh we ran into a buzz sog against Syracuse,
Speaker 3: but uh it, it was a fun little venture and
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, too much fun probably, And that was the third one.
Speaker 3: The third one, they sent us down to El Paso,
Speaker 3: which at the time it was is a John Hancock Bowl,
Speaker 3: which is now called the Stun Bowl. We played Baylor
Speaker 3: down there and lost the close one, but uh yeah
Speaker 3: it was. It was a great experience. Now there to
Speaker 3: go too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let me ask you you have those seats
Speaker 2: are nice seats on the north side. Uh, you're you're
Speaker 2: you're talking about you know, what should happen? Are you are?
Speaker 2: Are you a frustrated fan, a frustrated former player, or
Speaker 2: just the dudes who's watching when you're watching?
Speaker 3: You know, I think, honestly, Steve, you know this, this
Speaker 3: team in the new college football atmosphere has really changed. Obviously,
Speaker 3: we talked about that. You know, we had twenty kids
Speaker 3: I think that that graduated and we had another twelve
Speaker 3: or fifteen that went through the portal. So you know,
Speaker 3: you couple that with a new head coach and two
Speaker 3: new coordinators. I mean, yeah, you're you're just not gonna
Speaker 3: have the same team as you did last year. But
Speaker 3: you know that being said, I think, you know, the
Speaker 3: core of those that were watching is back, and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of optimism. Honestly, there's slashes of brilliance there.
Speaker 3: But no, I mean, you know, expectations are a good
Speaker 3: thing and a bad thing, and we said them pretty
Speaker 3: high last year. So yeah, let's just let's ride the
Speaker 3: wave and see what comes out of it the rest
Speaker 3: of this year and into next year with coach Brennan.
Speaker 5: And in terms of you know, you've been through the
Speaker 5: grand of a college football season, You've been there with
Speaker 5: coach tikto me and been through that type of environment.
Speaker 5: How many similarities do you see in terms of the
Speaker 5: way Arizona's coach and the presence of the coaching staff
Speaker 5: between me and and Brennan. Good question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, guys, I've seen a couple of practices
Speaker 3: here locally, but uh, you know, one of the main
Speaker 3: difference is obviously, you know they sent us down to
Speaker 3: camp coach Chiefs and and co Chiese was just it
Speaker 3: was isolated and obviously we didn't have the cell phones
Speaker 3: back then. But you know, the team camaraderie was just
Speaker 3: the biggest difference I think that most teams face now.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, back then, it was it was a
Speaker 3: lot of spending time together. Honestly, we did, you know,
Speaker 3: played cards, We did dominoes. I mean, guys, just we
Speaker 3: hung out. There weren't these cell phones, it wasn't there
Speaker 3: wasn't social media. So uh yeah, I think what coach
Speaker 3: Brennan's done and having Chuck csal on Board and Hunley
Speaker 3: and you know, those guys that brings a lot of
Speaker 3: that back, and you know, you try to institute a
Speaker 3: lot of those you know, those past things that made
Speaker 3: us successful into these teams now, and it's a challenge.
Speaker 3: It's just a different world in college football, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, uh, And you could be
Speaker 2: as honest as you want or straightforward. And I even
Speaker 2: feel guilty in asking the question. So I get a
Speaker 2: lot of texts obviously during the game and in otherwise,
Speaker 2: and one of my friends or somebody who knows what
Speaker 2: I do, says, I was all for I was all
Speaker 2: for h Brennan coming in. He had the Dick tell
Speaker 2: me past. Uh, they didn't tell me that they hired
Speaker 2: Dick Tony h And I asked. I asked Jay at
Speaker 2: our show on the Casino last week. I says, did
Speaker 2: everyone think or or maybe has over romanticized Dick's time
Speaker 2: here because a lot of people love that time, right
Speaker 2: and it's probably the last time that they've been successful.
Speaker 2: But so you don't know where I'm going with that question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I do steve a little bit. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 3: money has TV contracts the game is, like I said,
Speaker 3: has changed, right. I mean Coach Tomey's contract back to
Speaker 3: the day, I believe was like one hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars. But you know we had guys on
Speaker 3: our team that would run through a brick wall for
Speaker 3: this guy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So now you cover that with with these coaches that
Speaker 3: are making millions in nowadays, and there's you know, there's
Speaker 3: loyalty and there isn't loyalty. But yeah, you know, coach Brennan,
Speaker 3: he might not look like a raw rock kind of guy,
Speaker 3: but neither was Coach Fish, you know, and he's had
Speaker 3: success at the San Jose State. I think he'll be
Speaker 3: good here. We just need stability. This program needs stability.
Speaker 3: It doesn't need a flash in a pan. And I
Speaker 3: think over time, give coach Brennan, you know, a chance,
Speaker 3: and I think he'll bring that. Do you think?
Speaker 5: And honestly, you know, I've been around covering someone era,
Speaker 5: the Jetfish era and now the Brett Brennan are and
Speaker 5: I've seen different coaches. You know, you come from San
Speaker 5: Jose State. Before that, you are a wide receiver coach
Speaker 5: at Oregon State and the expectations at our stayed in
Speaker 5: San Jose State and the success he had there. Do
Speaker 5: you think there might have been a moment where you
Speaker 5: are at Arizona and the expectations were much higher because
Speaker 5: of the previous staff and the players, where maybe it
Speaker 5: overwhelmed this coaching staff at some points throughout the year.
Speaker 3: You know, guys, I don't know the ins and outs
Speaker 3: of it, because, like I said, I'm an alumni looking
Speaker 3: in and I have an alumni call with the team,
Speaker 3: you know, once a month. But I tell you that
Speaker 3: every coaching style is different. You know. You look at
Speaker 3: the raw Rock coaches that we've had in the past,
Speaker 3: like Mike steps and Rich Rod, and they were just different.
Speaker 3: You know, we had guys that are a little bit
Speaker 3: more calmer and they've had success as well. Plus you
Speaker 3: got a lot of other outlying factors and and you know,
Speaker 3: the coordinators are are a big reason for that. Who
Speaker 3: you hire and who you put in place to coach
Speaker 3: these kids is a big, big decision nowadays. So you know,
Speaker 3: the leasha short. Every every administration wants wins right now.
Speaker 3: But in the way of college football right now, with
Speaker 3: this nil and with the transfer portal, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's a different beast back in the day, if we
Speaker 3: wanted to transfer, we had to sit out two years
Speaker 3: before we can go in, right, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: so it's and there was no money opportunities like there
Speaker 3: is now for these for these kids. So you know,
Speaker 3: the best thing we can do is a two talk community,
Speaker 3: I think is support them, keep coming out for the
Speaker 3: games and know that we have some two high quality
Speaker 3: kids on this team and no Fafita and t Mac
Speaker 3: that these kids were offered millions of dollars and at
Speaker 3: least stayed And so, guys, I would applaud them for
Speaker 3: their loyalty because you do not see that on the
Speaker 3: college landscape anymore.
Speaker 2: No, I, no, you don't tell you. But so you're right,
Speaker 2: You're right. Nice, nice that they stick stuck around and
Speaker 2: now they're dealing with this. So another thing, and I
Speaker 2: apologize if I asked this question and maybe didn't ask
Speaker 2: it right before. So you're seeing them behind me and
Speaker 2: you're making these observations, you know, offensively, defensively, So what
Speaker 2: would you do to change that offense? Or would you
Speaker 2: or is it more than that?
Speaker 3: You know, guys, again, I played tight end when I
Speaker 3: was there my five years there, you know, we kind
Speaker 3: of saw little bits and pieces of that because coach
Speaker 3: Tomy had actually hired four different offensive in my five years,
Speaker 3: so it made it difficult and everybody's got a little
Speaker 3: bit concepts. Of course, it was a little simpler back then.
Speaker 3: We ran a two tight ends set and we ran
Speaker 3: even number of plays of the right, odd numbers of
Speaker 3: the left. So there wasn't there wasn't the spread them
Speaker 3: out isolation one on one time. You know, there wasn't that.
Speaker 2: It was football.
Speaker 3: Exactly. So you know, yeah, these there's a whole lot
Speaker 3: of motion and wheels in place that that all got
Speaker 3: a gel and combined at the same time. And and honestly, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, with all the changes earlier before,
Speaker 3: I think that you know, it's going to take a while.
Speaker 3: And and that's the coaching job is to keep it positive, uh,
Speaker 3: keep it motivated. And then as fans and an alumni,
Speaker 3: that's all we can do is support the team and
Speaker 3: and and give them our best foot forward.
Speaker 2: You talk about stability, uh, and and you saw you
Speaker 2: see the internet, you know, in that night, I tell
Speaker 2: you you you even showed me they're either wanting to
Speaker 2: fire the guy during the game and that's not stability.
Speaker 3: No, no, it's not. And and then that's again that's
Speaker 3: one thing we did not deal with back in the
Speaker 3: day is the social media aspect of it. And these
Speaker 3: kids are bombarded with it, you know, I mean, it's uh,
Speaker 3: it's something we never have. I mean obviously around campus
Speaker 3: back in the day, get a pat on the back
Speaker 3: or you get a kick in the shorts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
Speaker 3: But but times have really changed. I mean, nutritions change,
Speaker 3: weightlifting in the in the programs have changed in the
Speaker 3: off season. I mean, like I said, there's there's a
Speaker 3: lot of different outlining factors that only head coach can control.
Speaker 3: And he can surround himself, you know, by the guys
Speaker 3: you hire, so you know, for good or for bad.
Speaker 3: The administration made a choice and that coach Brennan's our coach.
Speaker 3: And and like I said before, would just let's stick
Speaker 3: with the game plan.
Speaker 2: Do you you often think that you were born thirty
Speaker 2: six years too soon?
Speaker 3: Well, now you look at the size of the players now,
Speaker 3: Steve and no, I went no part of this because
Speaker 3: I was actually considered a medium suys guy back in
Speaker 3: the day. I got after I graduated high school, I
Speaker 3: got to UA campus I was only like six two
Speaker 3: maybe one hundred and eighty five hundred and ninety pounds,
Speaker 3: soaka wet. And it was an eye opener real quick
Speaker 3: because you go from that big fish in the little
Speaker 3: pond of the little fish to a big pond real quick. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I don't want I'm good right watching it from the sideline.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I was talking more nil than it was
Speaker 2: anything else. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Well, hey, appreciate your time. Thanks.
Speaker 2: We'll have you on again maybe when things get a
Speaker 2: little bit better.
Speaker 3: Yeah. See, guys, thank you, appreciate it. Give a shout
Speaker 3: out to all those guys that's that come out and
Speaker 3: support it and continue to do so. Thanks for your time.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Thank you for that was a very
Speaker 2: Julian former. U A tight end back in the day
Speaker 2: when I first started many years ago. Okay, we got
Speaker 2: about two minutes one minute minute, Hey, Gabe, but we
Speaker 2: saw that you were trying to call in. We didn't
Speaker 2: want to kind of get in and not have the
Speaker 2: call or call in. So, Gabe, if you're listening, give
Speaker 2: us a call on the other side of the hour,
Speaker 2: because we gotta go. We're gonna have breaking news. Maybe
Speaker 2: you call. You're gonna have a lot of breaking news. Okay,
Speaker 2: so maybe if we have some breaking time or lack
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Speaker 2: and everybody