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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Been good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball

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<v Speaker 2>here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and

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<v Speaker 2>today is Troy Hutchison from gooecycats dot com. We got

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<v Speaker 2>Don't screw it up though, because I'm not. I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>sketchy on that damn thing. Go aheam welcome everybody to Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Call us if you'd like. That's the one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Thank you five two o four

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<v Speaker 2>We've been getting a lot of calls from a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different people. Thank you guys for calling in. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>everybody for listening. I love the show. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>guys do to a nice show today. Big stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball is gonna finally officially start in a week less

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<v Speaker 2>than a week. Actually, they played last night, and Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>football continues to trudge along in the final stages of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. You went to the press press compas today, right,

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<v Speaker 2>football some kind of kind of hard not hard hitting,

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<v Speaker 2>but they kind of try to go there with some

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<v Speaker 2>of the players. They don't did you go yesterday?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't go, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yesterday. Everyone still kind of kid gloves with Brennan.

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<v Speaker 2>I gues I I think, I don't know. And what's

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<v Speaker 2>he gonna say? He's he's he's not a very lively guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just a kind of a dude who gives you

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<v Speaker 2>answers that are not very quotable. Uh, kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>his offense, true creator, not memorable, creative.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But today you know you had t Mac and who's

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<v Speaker 2>so two possible NFL guys, right, and obviously guys are

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<v Speaker 2>probably gonna leave here. They have the seventy is a senior.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, he's a junior.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a junior.

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<v Speaker 5>He can, he can, but he's projected to go in

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<v Speaker 5>the first and Tim Mac has gone to Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>mean the top top five pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Without without ever saying anything. Right, I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>has to say anything. You just you just know he's

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<v Speaker 2>like Mike bid be his sophomer year. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just waiting for him to say it officially and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't hear it until.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the season's ob Yeah, you know, oh, I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to the draft pool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, breaking news, right, yeah, yeah right, we already know.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah no, but but you know, Jonah ahead, Jonah

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<v Speaker 5>is one of them that you know, he maybe a

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<v Speaker 5>first round draft pick, maybe a second round draft pick.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's one of the ones that fans are wondering.

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<v Speaker 5>Is he going to be back for a second season, well,

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<v Speaker 5>for his finals.

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<v Speaker 2>The final season? Yeah? What four? I mean what four?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be it could be another season like this,

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<v Speaker 2>could be worse, could could be. Really you you were

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<v Speaker 2>in maybe a week or two ago, two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever it was. Uh So I'm giving you, are giving

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<v Speaker 2>you the magic eate ball. You're gonna shake it. The

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<v Speaker 2>reasons why this team is not very good is offensive

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<v Speaker 2>coaching staff. Wow, Okay, I'm going to go there.

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<v Speaker 5>You know I don't I'm not one to one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>percent blame the coaching staff. But results are results. Last year,

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna had an explosive offense. Yes, you're missing

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<v Speaker 5>on the receiving core, but you still had like eighty

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<v Speaker 5>five percent of your offense back and most of your

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<v Speaker 5>offensive lineback. And you've turned a All Conference, All Pack

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<v Speaker 5>twelve Freshmen of the Year quarterback and no Fafida into

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<v Speaker 5>a guy that looks rattled, looks dazed and confused at

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<v Speaker 5>times out there on the football field, and an offense

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<v Speaker 5>that getting seven points before half looks like pulling teeth

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<v Speaker 5>a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, to know your question. So is it a is

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<v Speaker 2>it a thing of creativity, movement, or just it's just

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<v Speaker 5>I think a major part of this is the playbook.

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<v Speaker 5>There's not a lot of creativity in the playbook. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think it plays to the player's strengths, especially when

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<v Speaker 5>it comes to No fa Fida. His best attributes are

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<v Speaker 5>the short game and getting the ball out quick and

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<v Speaker 5>making quick decisions. If you look at the offense, how

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<v Speaker 5>many yards? How many routes do you see? Fifteen plus yards?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>And he's searching, searching, searching. That's not his game.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you this. So you're you're a

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<v Speaker 2>common dude, right, You're just a dude. I'm sorry to say.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Gizell's not going to come and knock on

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<v Speaker 2>your door to have a baby. So you're just a

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<v Speaker 2>normal dude. Well, I'm talking about the the Gizell, not Giel.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're just a normal dude. If you see that,

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<v Speaker 2>and a few other people see that. In fact, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have one guy on today, former ULI player, sees that.

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<v Speaker 2>How come they don't see that?

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<v Speaker 5>I think they see it, But it's still a case

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<v Speaker 5>of Hey, I've been around college football for a long time,

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<v Speaker 5>so smartly, I think I know what I'm doing, and

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes I'm stubborn.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, so age comes Severn.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven games in is a pretty good simple size to say. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think you know what you're doing, you're not doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it is, it is, But I mean you turn

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<v Speaker 5>you turn it over to the new offensive play caller

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<v Speaker 5>in Matt Atkins who's taken over the play calling role,

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<v Speaker 5>and you have the situation still the same offensively, So

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<v Speaker 5>what do you have to go back on?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's the playbook, so style, it's a scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>He was there today and you listened. I didn't listen

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<v Speaker 2>to him today, too busy. What did he say?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, a lot of it had to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth quarter success and how easy going and how

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<v Speaker 5>free flowing the offense was, and players not really overthinking

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<v Speaker 5>and just going out there and playing football, playing reactionary football.

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<v Speaker 5>And how do you get that from the start of

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<v Speaker 5>the game to the finish of the game instead of

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<v Speaker 5>just the fourth quarter. How do you get that quick

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<v Speaker 5>reaction and free flowing throughout the whole entire course of

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<v Speaker 5>the game. And for me, what did they do? They

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<v Speaker 5>played hurry up. They were playing from behind, their playing

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<v Speaker 5>hurry up offense and snap decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're you're a reporter from the West Virginia side.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the West Virginia coach. Ask me a question about

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<v Speaker 2>how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, why do you think Arizona's offense was able

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<v Speaker 5>to have so much success in the fourth quarter?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, you with the goeasy cats. Last I checked,

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<v Speaker 2>there were our second and third string guys in there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So there's two teams on there. There's two teams

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<v Speaker 2>on that field. There's reasons for everything. Okay, so we've

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<v Speaker 2>known that they couldn't move the ball until this last

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. What if that was the reason and not

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<v Speaker 2>so much their their flow of the office.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, and again we don't know Res Virginia's

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<v Speaker 5>wat roster, you know, but you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>I know what you're saying. There is up when you're

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<v Speaker 5>up thirty one to whatever the score is.

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas played San Francisco two days ago. Same thing happened,

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing happened. They'd already had the game one. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>they moved the ball. Well, oh you moved the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, because we didn't give a crap.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean, sometimes you just have to look at

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<v Speaker 5>the way the style was in terms of the up tempo,

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<v Speaker 5>the fast pace of it. You're not sitting back wondering what.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, they played differently than they have played party.

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<v Speaker 2>So did West Virginia. One. They should have never been

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation, no, right, but they and they've been

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation four or five times this year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you know, yes, thirty one points is thirty

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<v Speaker 5>one points in the defense didn't look great, But how

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<v Speaker 5>many guys on defense are you missing? How many guys

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<v Speaker 5>aren't out there on the football field, and so to

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<v Speaker 5>be able to hold an offense like that and contain

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<v Speaker 5>an offense like that, I thought it was an impressive job.

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<v Speaker 5>And you just couldn't get any relief from your offensive

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<v Speaker 2>So they have four more games left, three to get

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<v Speaker 2>to a bull of us. This guy's asked this question

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<v Speaker 2>of many people who've been in that seat. They're bowl eligible?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they bowl watchable? Are they the bull invitible?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, first of all, I don't think they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>do a bowl game, Okay, so I'll say that. So

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<v Speaker 5>they're not going to a bowl game. I think you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to be seeing the team fighting for five and

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<v Speaker 5>seven at the end of the year against ASU and

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<v Speaker 5>that's your bowl game. Tucson Territorial Cup is here bowlgame one?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe they no, they need to they need to win

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<v Speaker 5>that one. And thinking about that at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 5>the year, as Arizona State, Arizona State's probably going to

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<v Speaker 5>a bowl this year. Yeah, Arizona's probably on the outside

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<v Speaker 5>looking in at the beginning of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Total opposites, yeah, very much so, very much so. Such

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<v Speaker 2>as the world of football college football this year and

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<v Speaker 2>how it's turned upside down with a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the state. You know, who would have thought

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<v Speaker 2>if you would have given me odds on okay, a

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<v Speaker 2>issue is going to be better than U of A

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of record or whatever circumstances, I would have said,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you three to one? No, I think I'll

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<v Speaker 2>save my money.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, I want to bet that. I want to

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<v Speaker 5>bet that because you looked at ASU's offensive staff, wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>that impressive? Their defense was banned up. It on paper

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<v Speaker 5>looked like they're going to be the worst team in

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<v Speaker 5>the Big twelve. Yeah, at least one of the bottom theaters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And instead instead Utah and Arizona have been at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would have ever thought that?

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<v Speaker 3>And Utah has their quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody's said, hey, once this guy's coming back gam Rising,

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<v Speaker 5>everything's going to be all good. Right, not so much?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me throw this. What if I know they were

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<v Speaker 2>good last year and no poo poo on Jeffish because

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<v Speaker 2>he did a great job and his assistant. What if

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<v Speaker 2>last year was just the different year, I mean, just

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things that comes out of the world

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<v Speaker 2>every now and again, and that was that year, and

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<v Speaker 2>they would have gone back to this year.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think last year was just one of those years.

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<v Speaker 5>I think last year was something foundationally special. But the

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<v Speaker 5>issue is you don't have the same staff, you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have the same coaches back then. I think this year

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<v Speaker 5>goes to show how important coaching is in college.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, with all question, I say that all the time, Troy.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what, just looking at how the season

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<v Speaker 5>Because I don't, because Noah t Mac and the guys

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<v Speaker 5>It's just not working. As frustrating for them. I think

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<v Speaker 2>So I must have missed that because I only watched

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<v Speaker 3>To stuff like that. And he went on and changed it.

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<v Speaker 2>him about what he says, because he's made some great

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's not tied to anybody, you know, he's he

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<v Speaker 2>So he's head of the Mexican Baseball League or best

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<v Speaker 2>You have a dog in the fight? No, no, do

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<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to see the Dodgers lose and that's

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<v Speaker 3>I'm great?

423
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<v Speaker 12>Did you?

424
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<v Speaker 13>Did you forget that I was gonna be on today?

425
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<v Speaker 3>Dave?

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<v Speaker 2>I plead the fifth, plead the fifth. Hey, dude, I'm

427
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<v Speaker 2>sixteen years old. What the hell do I remember? I'm

428
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<v Speaker 2>look here, you got your day right?

429
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<v Speaker 13>The good news is I take out the personally. So

430
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<v Speaker 13>we're great.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you, Thank you, mister Cooney. Great to have

432
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<v Speaker 2>you because you got doing. We're doing fine. How's he doing? Hey,

433
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<v Speaker 2>he's making money in Scottsdale, you know, living the.

434
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<v Speaker 13>Life, right, Coody's living the life. Cooney had the foresight,

435
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<v Speaker 13>the the the Uh. The entrepreneurial spirit is alive and

436
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<v Speaker 13>well in my former partner in crime. He's doing splendid

437
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<v Speaker 13>up there.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I see his Facebook posts all the time

439
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<v Speaker 2>and very envious. So now I wanted your expert interpretations

440
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<v Speaker 2>or observations on what's going on basketball and football because

441
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<v Speaker 2>you're you know, you you've been around a long time,

442
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<v Speaker 2>You've seen a lot of games. Uh, what do you

443
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<v Speaker 2>make of this football team? Outside of the obvious? What?

444
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<v Speaker 3>What? What?

445
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<v Speaker 13>Okay, let's let's define what is the obvious that they're

446
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<v Speaker 13>not any good.

447
00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm probably gonna ask you the reasons why or or whatever.

448
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<v Speaker 2>I have Troy here, so he's you know, close to

449
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<v Speaker 2>the thing as well. But you know, you've seen teams

450
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<v Speaker 2>come and go.

451
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I mean, what can you say other than that

452
00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:42.880
<v Speaker 13>this this season is shockingly disappointing, right, And I think

453
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<v Speaker 13>we're at the point now where I mean, I think,

454
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<v Speaker 13>in the words of Shot Millie, you could make the

455
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<v Speaker 13>arguments that, yeah, a lot of it has to do

456
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<v Speaker 13>with the coaching staff, but you gotta, you gotta kind

457
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<v Speaker 13>of like split it up a little bit. The coaching

458
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<v Speaker 13>staff is the biggest I mean, it's obviously it's it's

459
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<v Speaker 13>the obvious choice where to lay the blame. But now

460
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<v Speaker 13>you also have to look into the scheme and the

461
00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:09.640
<v Speaker 13>way they're running things, which ultimately fault in the coaching staff.

462
00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.319
<v Speaker 13>But also you have to look at at the players too.

463
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<v Speaker 13>It's like, where are they at now in their mindset

464
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<v Speaker 13>of what has become not a wasted season, because there's

465
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<v Speaker 13>still four games left, but a season that fell so

466
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<v Speaker 13>short of what I guess so many of us thought

467
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<v Speaker 13>could have been. You know, and uh, frustration is an

468
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<v Speaker 13>understatement given the amount of talent that we know exists

469
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<v Speaker 13>on this roster, coupled with the injury bug, coupled with

470
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<v Speaker 13>just the overall just decisions that have been made within

471
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<v Speaker 13>this staff. It's just I don't I don't know, man,

472
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<v Speaker 13>It's it's a witch's brew of of of yeah nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Before you ask him, Troy, I was gonna you said

474
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<v Speaker 2>witches brew, which is fantastic analogy. I was gonna say, so,

475
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<v Speaker 2>this too stews like at the restaurant's called misery. Yeah

476
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<v Speaker 2>you want, yeah, you want something?

477
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, like an applete aptly named after you know, the

478
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<v Speaker 13>Stephen King novel as well, where the author comes in

479
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<v Speaker 13>basically bludgeons or not excuse me that the fan comes

480
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<v Speaker 13>in and bludgeons the author, which I could foresee. And

481
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<v Speaker 13>if you look kind of carefully, Fancier locally have gone

482
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<v Speaker 13>to bludgeting the coaching staff pretty quickly here.

483
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<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh for sure.

484
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<v Speaker 5>I mean this is probably the quickest I've seen this

485
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<v Speaker 5>fan base turn on the coaching staff, especially for football.

486
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<v Speaker 2>I guess, well I were in the we're in this

487
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<v Speaker 2>kind of age, right some social media they would have

488
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<v Speaker 2>done the same thing for Macovic.

489
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Would have done and I did they did? They give

491
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<v Speaker 2>someone a grace.

492
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<v Speaker 5>I think there was always let's see if he can recruit,

493
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<v Speaker 5>like if he could get the guys here, maybe things

494
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<v Speaker 5>will change.

495
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<v Speaker 2>But that he didn't even care about that.

496
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<v Speaker 13>I don't know how long that lasted though, I don't know.

497
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<v Speaker 13>I think I think someone someone's flame was was burning

498
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<v Speaker 13>real bright for that first like six months of his

499
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<v Speaker 13>being here in Tucson, not just necessarily his coaching tenure,

500
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<v Speaker 13>but trying trying to turn Khalil Tate into a pocket

501
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<v Speaker 13>passer when the opposite maybe would have been a better move.

502
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<v Speaker 13>Like the first and the things we're not going to

503
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<v Speaker 13>go as planned.

504
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<v Speaker 2>He would have saved his job had he not done that.

505
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe, But you know what, you know what you

506
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<v Speaker 2>know what it turned for me for something, and you

507
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<v Speaker 2>were involved with this. You want to guess what that?

508
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<v Speaker 3>No, go tell me.

509
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<v Speaker 2>So we're at the press conference in the in the

510
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<v Speaker 2>press conference room at the football stadium, and you asked

511
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<v Speaker 2>him about his childhood or something like that, you know,

512
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<v Speaker 2>how was it growing up being And he looks at

513
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<v Speaker 2>you says, uh, why you ask him this question? And

514
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<v Speaker 2>then you you you respond to him, and I'm thinking

515
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<v Speaker 2>to myself, I'm thinking, because you're not you're not available

516
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<v Speaker 2>any other time.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I asked him what it

518
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<v Speaker 13>was like selling insurance. Yeah, he was an insurance salesman

519
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<v Speaker 13>before he turned into coaching football, which incidentally, he actually

520
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<v Speaker 13>gave a really good response. He just like gave me

521
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<v Speaker 13>flat asking the question at that moment, which I mean again,

522
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<v Speaker 13>like you noted, like what else was I going to

523
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<v Speaker 13>ask you?

524
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<v Speaker 2>Right, You're not gonna pull them aside and say, oh,

525
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<v Speaker 2>Gil got a quick question.

526
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<v Speaker 5>But there was no one on ones there there's still

527
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<v Speaker 5>and you know, you know, looking at this season, guys

528
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<v Speaker 5>for Arizona three and five and fan base down its

529
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<v Speaker 5>throat and everything like that, how much different would this

530
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<v Speaker 5>be with just two games Texas that game and this

531
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<v Speaker 5>past week against West Virginia the ball bounces a couple

532
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<v Speaker 5>different ways, and three with this second half of the schedule,

533
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<v Speaker 5>a week or half of the schedule. What would be

534
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 5>the outlook with the schedule and just a couple of

535
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:29.960
<v Speaker 5>bounces the other way?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, I mean then then we're talking at least it's respectable.

537
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean.

538
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<v Speaker 13>You beat the team that you're supposed to beat, right,

539
00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:43.000
<v Speaker 13>like you're supposed to beat West Virginia across the board.

540
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<v Speaker 13>We're not making There's no excuse for that. A team

541
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<v Speaker 13>traveling from across the country that's more injured than you,

542
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:55.119
<v Speaker 13>like backup quarterback missing, they're still off. I mean there

543
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:58.160
<v Speaker 13>there's just no excuse. And I mean I even said

544
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<v Speaker 13>it on the broadcast on Saturday night. You it's nice

545
00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 13>that we got a chance to see the glimmer of

546
00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 13>something of life in that fourth quarter, But it's like,

547
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:11.400
<v Speaker 13>does it really have to get to that point?

548
00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:12.759
<v Speaker 3>No?

549
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I know, this is this is uh Tom Brady trying

550
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<v Speaker 2>to save his marriage in the in the final two

551
00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:22.400
<v Speaker 2>weeks of his marriage. Honestly, what's the point?

552
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, yeah, and it's and it's and it's so it's

553
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:31.279
<v Speaker 13>so disheartening because again we know, we know what this

554
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<v Speaker 13>team is capable of. And I think that's what that's

555
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:40.119
<v Speaker 13>what burns Totter. Right, for all the success that they

556
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<v Speaker 13>had a year ago, and for all of the expectations,

557
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<v Speaker 13>even if they were unjustly like too high, given what

558
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 13>they succeeded in doing last year, they weren't totally out

559
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<v Speaker 13>of the realm of realism, like that that team last

560
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.960
<v Speaker 13>year could be doing great things this year.

561
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:06.200
<v Speaker 3>Right, They're just not.

562
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and imagine, imagine your broadcast, your your website, Troy

563
00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:16.640
<v Speaker 2>might lack of optimism would have been fantastic two years

564
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:20.200
<v Speaker 2>into it, thinking holy crap, this this two year stretch

565
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>is unprecedented.

566
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean they were set up

567
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.799
<v Speaker 5>for a two year stretch that Arizona football stever had

568
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 5>never seen, right and it was right there. And I

569
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.599
<v Speaker 5>think that's the frustrating part. And the other frustrating part is,

570
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, everybody talks about the offensive issues. The defense

571
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:39.039
<v Speaker 5>was the question mark coming into the season, and by

572
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 5>all accounts, I know, there's injuries and they gave up

573
00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:43.319
<v Speaker 5>thirty one points, but that is one hell of a

574
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:45.759
<v Speaker 5>coaching job by joining King of his defensive staff, and

575
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.200
<v Speaker 5>it's shown weekend and week out. But when you're not

576
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.799
<v Speaker 5>getting any production offensively, and that was the thing supposed

577
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 5>to be your you know, bread and butter, it's frustrating

578
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:56.319
<v Speaker 5>to a fan base when when your bread and butter

579
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<v Speaker 5>is the problem.

580
00:26:59.079 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

581
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<v Speaker 13>We can add over say, the the job that Dwayne

582
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:06.559
<v Speaker 13>Kina has done this season, given everything that he's had to,

583
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.759
<v Speaker 13>all the challenges he had to overcome with the injuries

584
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:15.519
<v Speaker 13>and all that, which is just like just the nice

585
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 13>blade between the ribs of of of a season that's

586
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:25.640
<v Speaker 13>gone pretty much downhill since Week four. But yeah, I mean,

587
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 13>what can you say because at this point there are

588
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 13>no excuses anymore, right because you're at the point where,

589
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 13>let's be honest, we're passing midway point of the season.

590
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 13>Every team you're facing is injured, right, not more than others.

591
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 13>So what does it come down to? It comes down

592
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 13>to coaching, to scheme, to want, to desire, and I

593
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:50.759
<v Speaker 13>don't I don't necessarily think that that wanton desire is

594
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:54.039
<v Speaker 13>lacking in this squad, despite you know where they're at

595
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 13>right now. You can still see the fire obviously, otherwise

596
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:58.599
<v Speaker 13>you wouldn't have seen no op Fid had taken himself

597
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 13>and you know, truck like three defenders into the end

598
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 13>zone and that's fourth quarter, And if that's your team captain,

599
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.359
<v Speaker 13>you follow his lead, right, But it's just a it's

600
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:11.880
<v Speaker 13>just a cumulative everything that has gotten to this point

601
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 13>where now you're wondering, are the coaching staff going to

602
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 13>be around in twenty twenty five?

603
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:20.839
<v Speaker 3>Right? Right?

604
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 2>There could be some changes other than the head coach. Right,

605
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 2>let me ask you, Damien, because I know you don't

606
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 2>typically do this. I know your former colleague did with

607
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>David Kelly, maybe on online but maybe not on TV.

608
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<v Speaker 2>Do you are you allowed to editorial wise or have

609
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<v Speaker 2>you given a situation like this?

610
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<v Speaker 13>I trute not to, because, like I mean, I have

611
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 13>my own opinions, but normally I just kind of like

612
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.039
<v Speaker 13>keep those to myself. That was never my strengths. That

613
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:53.119
<v Speaker 13>was Dave Cooney and David Kelly's strength. But when it

614
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 13>comes to editorializing, now you're at the point where it's

615
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 13>like your eyes can't can't lie. Like like the product

616
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 13>on the field, it doesn't deceive you. You see exactly

617
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:08.640
<v Speaker 13>what's going on, and there are only again so many

618
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:10.759
<v Speaker 13>excuses and so many avenues of blame that you can

619
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 13>place before it comes down to the reality of man,

620
00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.799
<v Speaker 13>this this there's something wrong with this team. They have

621
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 13>not figured out what that is, and that is super concerning.

622
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 13>So that's not even editorializing. That's just observation that anybody

623
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 13>can see, right like opinion or not. Let's just let's

624
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 13>just tell it how it is, Like this team is

625
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 13>just bad and right now, really the crux of bitfalls

626
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 13>on the coaching staff. As far as I'm concerned, No I.

627
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Agree, So let's move to basketball real quick, at least

628
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Speaker 2>the men's side. Uh, We've seen a couple of exhibition games.

629
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure we can get from them. But what

630
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>what do you like in what you see?

631
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.279
<v Speaker 13>And Trey Townsend, we trust.

632
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would have been That's where I would have

633
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>gone to first. Yeah.

634
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I mean that that kid is is going to

635
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<v Speaker 13>be fun to watch, going to be fun to watch.

636
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<v Speaker 13>And I will say this in the press conference last night,

637
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<v Speaker 13>I liked the questions you were asking Tommy Steve about

638
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<v Speaker 13>Caleb and his maturation and and the one question specifically

639
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<v Speaker 13>of how how has Caleb learned to appreciate what you're

640
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<v Speaker 13>trying to get him to appreciate? I thought kind of

641
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<v Speaker 13>hits fail on the head, because if we're going to

642
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<v Speaker 13>see any growth out of.

643
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<v Speaker 2>Him, that's kind of the whole point, right exactly. That's

644
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<v Speaker 2>why he asked it. I mean, you could tell the

645
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<v Speaker 2>guy to bring in the newspaper, but if he doesn't

646
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<v Speaker 2>or doesn't enjoy it, what's the point of bringing in

647
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<v Speaker 2>the newspaper.

648
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<v Speaker 13>That's exactly right, That's exactly right, And I think that's

649
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<v Speaker 13>going to be a very interesting storyline. Maybe the storyline

650
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<v Speaker 13>of the season, because you know he Caleb has said

651
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<v Speaker 13>the same thing going into the season that he said

652
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<v Speaker 13>last season, which was, you know, team, team, team, I'm

653
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<v Speaker 13>here to support the guys. And yet you know, uh,

654
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<v Speaker 13>he was he was being Caleb love what comes naturally

655
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<v Speaker 13>to him, which is when when you know he's got

656
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<v Speaker 13>the ball, maybe times out of ten, he's going to

657
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<v Speaker 13>shoot that ball.

658
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<v Speaker 2>Right.

659
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<v Speaker 13>So let's see how that progresses over the course of

660
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<v Speaker 13>this final season for him and what he's learned, if anything,

661
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 13>and that'll be interesting to watch.

662
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>So so both of you the question to both of you,

663
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<v Speaker 2>then involving Caleb, you first try so okay, we have

664
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<v Speaker 2>we know how good he is, right and what he

665
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 2>can do and what he can't do or whatever. Uh,

666
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 2>He's there's four dudes on this roster who are NBA

667
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<v Speaker 2>prospects give give one or whatever his name is in

668
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>ESPN has him the fourth. He hears him like eighty fourth, uh,

669
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<v Speaker 2>with with the Carter higher Brad LeeJ and kJ and

670
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.799
<v Speaker 2>then and then Krebs. Okay, four or five of them?

671
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<v Speaker 1>Right?

672
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<v Speaker 2>So if this, if Caleb's that good and we've seen it,

673
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>why is he so underrated NBA wise?

674
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<v Speaker 5>I don't think his game translates to the NBA, and

675
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 5>I think they're trying to get where This is where

676
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 5>Tommy and the staff is kind of helping the Milana

677
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<v Speaker 5>help not only helping the team, but helping his game

678
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.400
<v Speaker 5>for the next level is can you score with the

679
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<v Speaker 5>ball and without the ball in your hand? Can you

680
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<v Speaker 5>be that guy that goes around screens and keeps on

681
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<v Speaker 5>moving and finds a way to score it? Because at

682
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 5>the NBA level, he's not going to have the ball

683
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 5>in his hands a lot. So can you be that

684
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<v Speaker 5>scorer without the ball in your hand? And you're seeing

685
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.680
<v Speaker 5>that play out here at Arizona, and I think that's

686
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 5>going to help him for his chance at an NBA

687
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 5>shot effectively?

688
00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 13>Can you keep moving?

689
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Is he right?

690
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<v Speaker 5>You?

691
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>You what you follow the NBA? Damon?

692
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 13>I do for the nature of my job.

693
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So let me ask you, is there a

694
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<v Speaker 2>what do you call it? A comparable?

695
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<v Speaker 5>I think a comparable And this is a very bad

696
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.440
<v Speaker 5>comparison because I don't think he could do it at

697
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.119
<v Speaker 5>that high of a level. And it's not a knock

698
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.839
<v Speaker 5>on Levit's just how good this player is. Is a

699
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<v Speaker 5>Jamal Crawford high volume score you're going to take a

700
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.359
<v Speaker 5>lot of shots to get to your twenty points. But

701
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<v Speaker 5>I don't think he can be offensively efficient as a

702
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 5>guy like that, and he doesn't have the ball handling

703
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 5>skills that a Jamal Crawford has.

704
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<v Speaker 13>All of that is true, and actually that's that's actually

705
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<v Speaker 13>a very good comparison with if you like, put the

706
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<v Speaker 13>parameters around it, you just put around Actually, wow, I

707
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<v Speaker 13>didn't even think about that.

708
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<v Speaker 3>That dang, nice one, Troy. I like that. Thank you.

709
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<v Speaker 13>That makes a lot of sense to me.

710
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a good thought every now and then.

711
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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you depicted our show to do it. Thank you.

712
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. Anybody else you know, did you see Carter?

713
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I thought Jalen paid well, really well. I

714
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 2>did my story on him because I'm gonna save my

715
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Carter story for later. But Carter Bryant was I said,

716
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.599
<v Speaker 2>holy crap, the wonder they went after this kid because

717
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:27.599
<v Speaker 2>he can do so much.

718
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 3>He's the most.

719
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<v Speaker 13>Underwrited afterwards, did say afterwards about Carter saying that now

720
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.400
<v Speaker 13>and now, it's a matter of what I the kid

721
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 13>knows that do so much, then it's a matter of

722
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<v Speaker 13>it wasn't pretty much seeing the game as.

723
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<v Speaker 2>A whole, right, Like yeah, yeah.

724
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 13>Not not having such tunnel vision was that kind of point.

725
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. And then my question to him after it

726
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>was because he's facing the people, He's facing the kjs

727
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 2>and the Wells and all that. Like like Lutska teams,

728
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the second string would get the first string to play

729
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>better and they would get better in return. He's that

730
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>guy that's going to benefit from playing against better people.

731
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<v Speaker 13>Agreed. Agreed, Hey can we can we talk a second

732
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<v Speaker 13>about Henry?

733
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, no, I let me tell you because

734
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I love the guy.

735
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 13>But go ahead, wait wait, okay, what do you You

736
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 13>love the guy? But what?

737
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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, But I wanted to hear your observation

738
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<v Speaker 2>because when I first saw him two years ago, I'm

739
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 2>thinking this kid could stretch it. He could do a

740
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of different things. He just needed to gain some weight.

741
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he needs to he needs to the demon almedia

742
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<v Speaker 2>uh diet.

743
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 13>The tape for him. Yeah, no, I I was. I

744
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 13>wasn't surprised, but it was just so nice to see

745
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 13>in that first game, and to a lesser extent in

746
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 13>this game his range right, Like in the warm ups

747
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 13>last week, I watched him, I was standing right the

748
00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 13>her baseline because I was getting ready to do my

749
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 13>broadcast out there, and I'm pretty sure he went six

750
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 13>for six from the on the arc from my end,

751
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 13>went to the top of the key. I think he

752
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 13>may went five or six top of the key, and

753
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 13>then I know what he did on the other side.

754
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:11.239
<v Speaker 13>But I was like, man like pure seven, like Frank

755
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 13>Kaminski vibes Wisconsin, like, if you get an opportunity to

756
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 13>show that off, and then he did. Then he did

757
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 13>show it off in the game later that night, which

758
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 13>was exciting. And he's only done that a handful of times.

759
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:24.480
<v Speaker 13>Because he only had the opportunity to do that a

760
00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:28.559
<v Speaker 13>handful of times. I'm like, ooh, that's gonna be that.

761
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 13>That's another thing that's gonna be fun to watch.

762
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<v Speaker 5>And honestly, I think one thing that people don't talk

763
00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 5>enough about him is his toughness. A lot of European

764
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 5>players did not for a lack of toughness, playing a

765
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 5>little bit of a softer brand of basketball. Last night,

766
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.320
<v Speaker 5>he took the ball and he made a power move

767
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.000
<v Speaker 5>into the post and went up to go dunk it over.

768
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 5>The dude just tried to straight up dunk it. Got fouled,

769
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:50.639
<v Speaker 5>went to the foul line and hit his foul shots.

770
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.760
<v Speaker 5>But you can't you can't teach that mentality. I'm gonna

771
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 5>throw it down right on.

772
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 2>So just real quick before you go, because we got

773
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 2>to go h in the last few years, including Sean's

774
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>big guys, I'm going to say that this is the

775
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 2>best big guy he's uh that you has had in

776
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>that time. And I just think of Collocal Caleb Tarzuski,

777
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>who else two bells, two bells. Yes, he's gonna better

778
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.239
<v Speaker 2>than anybody else. I could be wrong. You think.

779
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:23.360
<v Speaker 13>Every time about Henry Henry. Oh wow, I don't know, man,

780
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 13>I got to see more evidence of something. I don't know.

781
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 13>I don't know if I can put the nail on

782
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:33.400
<v Speaker 13>the head right there. I think I think a lot

783
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 13>of it will come down to that toughness and just

784
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 13>like just instinct, you know what I mean, Like get

785
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 13>the ball down the lane and do not be afraid

786
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 13>to just break somebody's face. Yeah, go up there, plam

787
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 13>it down and do your job right, be a legit

788
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 13>rim protector and just don't be afraid. And that's not

789
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:56.519
<v Speaker 13>say he wasn't afraid before, but now he's going to

790
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:59.320
<v Speaker 13>get the opportunity, especially depending on how mo mold situation

791
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 13>pans out, how much longer heat out for Let's let's

792
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 13>see it. The approve will be in the pudding right.

793
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Thank you Damian for showing up. Thank you even though

794
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>you forgot about you.

795
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 13>Thanks man always, Man always, you're talking with you day.

796
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<v Speaker 2>We got to go way over. We're gonna have verry Jillian,

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<v Speaker 6>Streamy live on the Ihearts Radio. While this is I

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<v Speaker 6>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Iying the Ball here at Fox

867
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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today is Troy

868
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<v Speaker 2>I just send from Goezy Cats. Ryan is control. Now

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00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:33.320
<v Speaker 2>we have Barry Julian Ua football from nineteen eighty eight

870
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>to nineteen ninety two. Three three post game you know,

871
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.280
<v Speaker 2>you know playoffs not playoffs, but you know bowl games

872
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 2>we did.

873
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks for having me on Steve.

874
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very good to talk to you. I told everybody

875
00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:50.559
<v Speaker 2>there was this dude behind me. He was talking Tom

876
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:52.519
<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking he's got some great insight on what's

877
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>going on in this place. Who is the guy? And

878
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 2>uh then I find out you. I'm thinking, I gotta

879
00:40:58.320 --> 00:40:59.039
<v Speaker 2>have you on the show.

880
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was good to see you. Yeah, we did.

881
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.199
<v Speaker 3>We played in uh three Bowl games when I was there,

882
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Copper Copper. Yeah, we played in the Copper Bowl there

883
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 3>in eighty nine. There was in our home stadium against

884
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:13.880
<v Speaker 3>North Carolina State.

885
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

886
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Uh then, yeah, then I think I believe in ninety

887
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:21.400
<v Speaker 3>we went to uh Hawaiian and played in the well.

888
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Before you go to the third one. I don't think

889
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:24.199
<v Speaker 2>you guys showed up in Hawaii.

890
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 3>No, we didn't know that. That one was the tough one.

891
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 3>We uh we ran into a buzz sog against Syracuse,

892
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.440
<v Speaker 3>but uh it, it was a fun little venture and

893
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:35.199
<v Speaker 3>that's for sure.

894
00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, too much fun probably, And that was the third one.

895
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:40.840
<v Speaker 3>The third one, they sent us down to El Paso,

896
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.519
<v Speaker 3>which at the time it was is a John Hancock Bowl,

897
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.559
<v Speaker 3>which is now called the Stun Bowl. We played Baylor

898
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.159
<v Speaker 3>down there and lost the close one, but uh yeah

899
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.400
<v Speaker 3>it was. It was a great experience. Now there to

900
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:51.679
<v Speaker 3>go too.

901
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so let me ask you you have those seats

902
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>are nice seats on the north side. Uh, you're you're

903
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about you know, what should happen? Are you are?

904
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Are you a frustrated fan, a frustrated former player, or

905
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:05.880
<v Speaker 2>just the dudes who's watching when you're watching?

906
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:10.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think, honestly, Steve, you know this, this

907
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 3>team in the new college football atmosphere has really changed. Obviously,

908
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 3>we talked about that. You know, we had twenty kids

909
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.400
<v Speaker 3>I think that that graduated and we had another twelve

910
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.400
<v Speaker 3>or fifteen that went through the portal. So you know,

911
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.199
<v Speaker 3>you couple that with a new head coach and two

912
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 3>new coordinators. I mean, yeah, you're you're just not gonna

913
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 3>have the same team as you did last year. But

914
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.920
<v Speaker 3>you know that being said, I think, you know, the

915
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 3>core of those that were watching is back, and there's

916
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 3>a lot of optimism. Honestly, there's slashes of brilliance there.

917
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 3>But no, I mean, you know, expectations are a good

918
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 3>thing and a bad thing, and we said them pretty

919
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.719
<v Speaker 3>high last year. So yeah, let's just let's ride the

920
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 3>wave and see what comes out of it the rest

921
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:55.599
<v Speaker 3>of this year and into next year with coach Brennan.

922
00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 5>And in terms of you know, you've been through the

923
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.039
<v Speaker 5>grand of a college football season, You've been there with

924
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 5>coach tikto me and been through that type of environment.

925
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 5>How many similarities do you see in terms of the

926
00:43:09.199 --> 00:43:13.000
<v Speaker 5>way Arizona's coach and the presence of the coaching staff

927
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 5>between me and and Brennan. Good question.

928
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, guys, I've seen a couple of practices

929
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 3>here locally, but uh, you know, one of the main

930
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>difference is obviously, you know they sent us down to

931
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 3>camp coach Chiefs and and co Chiese was just it

932
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 3>was isolated and obviously we didn't have the cell phones

933
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 3>back then. But you know, the team camaraderie was just

934
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 3>the biggest difference I think that most teams face now.

935
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Uh you know, back then, it was it was a

936
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of spending time together. Honestly, we did, you know,

937
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 3>played cards, We did dominoes. I mean, guys, just we

938
00:43:48.119 --> 00:43:50.599
<v Speaker 3>hung out. There weren't these cell phones, it wasn't there

939
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>wasn't social media. So uh yeah, I think what coach

940
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Brennan's done and having Chuck csal on Board and Hunley

941
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 3>and you know, those guys that brings a lot of

942
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 3>that back, and you know, you try to institute a

943
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:07.039
<v Speaker 3>lot of those you know, those past things that made

944
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 3>us successful into these teams now, and it's a challenge.

945
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just a different world in college football, that's for sure.

946
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:15.760
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you, uh, And you could be

947
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>as honest as you want or straightforward. And I even

948
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:22.199
<v Speaker 2>feel guilty in asking the question. So I get a

949
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of texts obviously during the game and in otherwise,

950
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:27.400
<v Speaker 2>and one of my friends or somebody who knows what

951
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I do, says, I was all for I was all

952
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:34.519
<v Speaker 2>for h Brennan coming in. He had the Dick tell

953
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.000
<v Speaker 2>me past. Uh, they didn't tell me that they hired

954
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Dick Tony h And I asked. I asked Jay at

955
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 2>our show on the Casino last week. I says, did

956
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:47.159
<v Speaker 2>everyone think or or maybe has over romanticized Dick's time

957
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 2>here because a lot of people love that time, right

958
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's probably the last time that they've been successful.

959
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>But so you don't know where I'm going with that question.

960
00:44:56.639 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I do steve a little bit. I mean, obviously,

961
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 3>money has TV contracts the game is, like I said,

962
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 3>has changed, right. I mean Coach Tomey's contract back to

963
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.079
<v Speaker 3>the day, I believe was like one hundred and eighty

964
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 3>five thousand dollars. But you know we had guys on

965
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 3>our team that would run through a brick wall for

966
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 3>this guy.

967
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Right.

968
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 3>So now you cover that with with these coaches that

969
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 3>are making millions in nowadays, and there's you know, there's

970
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 3>loyalty and there isn't loyalty. But yeah, you know, coach Brennan,

971
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 3>he might not look like a raw rock kind of guy,

972
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 3>but neither was Coach Fish, you know, and he's had

973
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.119
<v Speaker 3>success at the San Jose State. I think he'll be

974
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 3>good here. We just need stability. This program needs stability.

975
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.320
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't need a flash in a pan. And I

976
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 3>think over time, give coach Brennan, you know, a chance,

977
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.199
<v Speaker 3>and I think he'll bring that. Do you think?

978
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 5>And honestly, you know, I've been around covering someone era,

979
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 5>the Jetfish era and now the Brett Brennan are and

980
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 5>I've seen different coaches. You know, you come from San

981
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:57.119
<v Speaker 5>Jose State. Before that, you are a wide receiver coach

982
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.480
<v Speaker 5>at Oregon State and the expectations at our stayed in

983
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:03.400
<v Speaker 5>San Jose State and the success he had there. Do

984
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:05.519
<v Speaker 5>you think there might have been a moment where you

985
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 5>are at Arizona and the expectations were much higher because

986
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.840
<v Speaker 5>of the previous staff and the players, where maybe it

987
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 5>overwhelmed this coaching staff at some points throughout the year.

988
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 3>You know, guys, I don't know the ins and outs

989
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 3>of it, because, like I said, I'm an alumni looking

990
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.639
<v Speaker 3>in and I have an alumni call with the team,

991
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, once a month. But I tell you that

992
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 3>every coaching style is different. You know. You look at

993
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:30.639
<v Speaker 3>the raw Rock coaches that we've had in the past,

994
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.679
<v Speaker 3>like Mike steps and Rich Rod, and they were just different.

995
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, we had guys that are a little bit

996
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 3>more calmer and they've had success as well. Plus you

997
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 3>got a lot of other outlying factors and and you know,

998
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.960
<v Speaker 3>the coordinators are are a big reason for that. Who

999
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 3>you hire and who you put in place to coach

1000
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 3>these kids is a big, big decision nowadays. So you know,

1001
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:58.440
<v Speaker 3>the leasha short. Every every administration wants wins right now.

1002
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 3>But in the way of college football right now, with

1003
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:06.880
<v Speaker 3>this nil and with the transfer portal, I mean, it's

1004
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.880
<v Speaker 3>it's a different beast back in the day, if we

1005
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 3>wanted to transfer, we had to sit out two years

1006
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.840
<v Speaker 3>before we can go in, right, I mean, you know,

1007
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 3>so it's and there was no money opportunities like there

1008
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:20.800
<v Speaker 3>is now for these for these kids. So you know,

1009
00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:23.079
<v Speaker 3>the best thing we can do is a two talk community,

1010
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 3>I think is support them, keep coming out for the

1011
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:29.280
<v Speaker 3>games and know that we have some two high quality

1012
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.320
<v Speaker 3>kids on this team and no Fafita and t Mac

1013
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.119
<v Speaker 3>that these kids were offered millions of dollars and at

1014
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.199
<v Speaker 3>least stayed And so, guys, I would applaud them for

1015
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 3>their loyalty because you do not see that on the

1016
00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 3>college landscape anymore.

1017
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I, no, you don't tell you. But so you're right,

1018
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 2>You're right. Nice, nice that they stick stuck around and

1019
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 2>now they're dealing with this. So another thing, and I

1020
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.320
<v Speaker 2>apologize if I asked this question and maybe didn't ask

1021
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 2>it right before. So you're seeing them behind me and

1022
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 2>you're making these observations, you know, offensively, defensively, So what

1023
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.519
<v Speaker 2>would you do to change that offense? Or would you

1024
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 2>or is it more than that?

1025
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 3>You know, guys, again, I played tight end when I

1026
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:11.840
<v Speaker 3>was there my five years there, you know, we kind

1027
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 3>of saw little bits and pieces of that because coach

1028
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Tomy had actually hired four different offensive in my five years,

1029
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 3>so it made it difficult and everybody's got a little

1030
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.840
<v Speaker 3>bit concepts. Of course, it was a little simpler back then.

1031
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:26.440
<v Speaker 3>We ran a two tight ends set and we ran

1032
00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.480
<v Speaker 3>even number of plays of the right, odd numbers of

1033
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 3>the left. So there wasn't there wasn't the spread them

1034
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.599
<v Speaker 3>out isolation one on one time. You know, there wasn't that.

1035
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>It was football.

1036
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Exactly. So you know, yeah, these there's a whole lot

1037
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 3>of motion and wheels in place that that all got

1038
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.519
<v Speaker 3>a gel and combined at the same time. And and honestly, uh,

1039
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:52.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, like I said, with all the changes earlier before,

1040
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:56.559
<v Speaker 3>I think that you know, it's going to take a while.

1041
00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:00.519
<v Speaker 3>And and that's the coaching job is to keep it positive, uh,

1042
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.400
<v Speaker 3>keep it motivated. And then as fans and an alumni,

1043
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 3>that's all we can do is support the team and

1044
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 3>and and give them our best foot forward.

1045
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 2>You talk about stability, uh, and and you saw you

1046
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>see the internet, you know, in that night, I tell

1047
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.599
<v Speaker 2>you you you even showed me they're either wanting to

1048
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.840
<v Speaker 2>fire the guy during the game and that's not stability.

1049
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.559
<v Speaker 3>No, no, it's not. And and then that's again that's

1050
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:24.159
<v Speaker 3>one thing we did not deal with back in the

1051
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<v Speaker 3>day is the social media aspect of it. And these

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<v Speaker 3>kids are bombarded with it, you know, I mean, it's uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's something we never have. I mean obviously around campus

1054
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<v Speaker 3>back in the day, get a pat on the back

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<v Speaker 3>or you get a kick in the shorts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But but times have really changed. I mean, nutritions change,

1058
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 3>weightlifting in the in the programs have changed in the

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<v Speaker 3>off season. I mean, like I said, there's there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of different outlining factors that only head coach can control.

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<v Speaker 3>And he can surround himself, you know, by the guys

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<v Speaker 3>you hire, so you know, for good or for bad.

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<v Speaker 3>The administration made a choice and that coach Brennan's our coach.

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<v Speaker 3>And and like I said before, would just let's stick

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<v Speaker 3>with the game plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you you often think that you were born thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six years too soon?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now you look at the size of the players now,

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<v Speaker 3>Steve and no, I went no part of this because

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually considered a medium suys guy back in

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<v Speaker 3>the day. I got after I graduated high school, I

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<v Speaker 3>got to UA campus I was only like six two

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<v Speaker 3>maybe one hundred and eighty five hundred and ninety pounds,

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<v Speaker 3>soaka wet. And it was an eye opener real quick

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<v Speaker 3>because you go from that big fish in the little

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<v Speaker 3>pond of the little fish to a big pond real quick. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want I'm good right watching it from the sideline.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, I was talking more nil than it was

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<v Speaker 2>anything else. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Well, hey, appreciate your time. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have you on again maybe when things get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. See, guys, thank you, appreciate it. Give a shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to all those guys that's that come out and

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<v Speaker 3>support it and continue to do so. Thanks for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you, Thank you for that was a very

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<v Speaker 2>Julian former. U A tight end back in the day

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<v Speaker 2>when I first started many years ago. Okay, we got

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<v Speaker 2>about two minutes one minute minute, Hey, Gabe, but we

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<v Speaker 2>saw that you were trying to call in. We didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to kind of get in and not have the

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<v Speaker 2>call or call in. So, Gabe, if you're listening, give

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<v Speaker 2>us a call on the other side of the hour,

1094
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<v Speaker 2>because we gotta go. We're gonna have breaking news. Maybe

1095
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<v Speaker 2>you call. You're gonna have a lot of breaking news. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe if we have some breaking time or lack

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<v Speaker 2>of time, you can call doing the breaking news. Thanksgape

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody
