1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Colvin, I'm d Graves. 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:11,599 Speaker 2: Give us five minutes and we will give you the fire. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,280 Be Serious Podcast Special Edition five Minutes of Fire. We 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,519 are here talking about the lyrics of We Didn't Start 6 00:00:22,519 --> 00:00:25,399 the Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,280 at a time, which is about to link with the song, 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,480 so it works out kind of nicely. So please join 9 00:00:29,559 --> 00:00:33,280 us as we dive into some new lyrics today. 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,359 Speaker 2: All right, guys, so here are the topics that we're 11 00:00:35,399 --> 00:00:42,359 going to be covering today. Buddy Holly then her space monkey. Okay, 12 00:00:42,399 --> 00:00:44,000 do tell me about Buddy Holly. 13 00:00:43,719 --> 00:00:48,079 Speaker 1: All right. Buddy Holly was born Charles Hardin Holly, born 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,280 in Lubbock, Texas. Grew up listening and playing gospel, country 15 00:00:52,359 --> 00:00:55,520 and R and B. His first appearance on local television 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,759 happened in nineteen fifty two, and in nineteen fifty five 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,719 he opened for Elvis and he decided he would like 18 00:01:01,759 --> 00:01:04,400 to pursue a career in music. Later that year, he 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,079 opened for Bill Haley and the Comets, who we talked 20 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:09,640 about in a previous episode, and at that show he 21 00:01:09,799 --> 00:01:13,280 was spotted by a Nashville scout who got him a 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,519 contract with Decca Records. With Decca, he was assigned a producer. 23 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:20,680 He didn't really get along with that producer, even though 24 00:01:20,719 --> 00:01:22,799 the producer had done several hits for Patsy Klein. He 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,599 ended up going with a different producer that would ultimately 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,280 become his manager and recorded several songs with him, including 27 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:33,319 That'll Be the Day, which was his huge breakout success. 28 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:36,959 They released it as a single by The Crickets, even 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,040 though they weren't officially a band at that point. There 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,560 was no The Crickets and it was just Buddy Holly 31 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:45,760 and they had the studio musicians. But he got a 32 00:01:45,799 --> 00:01:49,280 band together, they toured, and by September of fifty seven 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,799 it was topping the charts. He put a new band 34 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:56,959 together in very early nineteen fifty nine with Tommy Alsup 35 00:01:56,959 --> 00:02:00,680 on guitar, Carl Bunch on drums, and Waylay Jennings on 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,760 base Whoa And if you've seen any of the couple 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,400 of movies that have come out about Buddy Holly, you'll 38 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:08,599 know that Whylon Jennings was a part of the group 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,759 that was there deciding who would have to stay in 40 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,599 the cold and who would get to fly to their 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,639 next location. And the story that I've heard is that 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,919 Whalon Jennings, when he didn't get rid on the plane, 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,319 said well, I hope that plane crashes. Unfortunately, that was 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,319 exactly what happened. The bus had frozen up because it 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,919 was so cold. They chartered a plane on a last 46 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,560 minute decision, and the pilot they got was a young 47 00:02:33,759 --> 00:02:38,080 Robert Peterson, only twenty one years old. Buddy Holly, Ritchie Allens, 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,000 and the Big Bopper, all on the same plane, all 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,080 crashed just a few miles away from the airport. The 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,240 authorities didn't even know that they had crashed until the 51 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,919 next day, when the owner of the plane actually found 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,639 the wreckage a few miles away. Buddy Holly is obviously 53 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,039 an icon and rock and roll and is credited with 54 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,520 putting together the two guitars, one bass, one drums line 55 00:02:58,599 --> 00:03:02,439 up that most rock bands have, and he recorded tons 56 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:05,439 and tons of songs which were released after his death, 57 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:09,120 and then in nineteen seventy one, Don McClain released American 58 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:12,840 Pie all about the Day the Music Died. Okay, Jason 59 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:14,840 tell Me about Ben Her Okay. 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,879 Speaker 2: Ben Her is a nineteen fifty nine epic religious film 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,759 starring Charlton Heston, Jack Hawkins, Stephen Boyd and directed. 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: By William Wyler. 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,039 Speaker 2: It was nominated for twelve Academy Awards and won an 64 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,800 unprecedented eleven, including Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Director. Only 65 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:33,280 Titanic and The Return of the King have matched that. 66 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:37,000 Pretty impressive. It had the largest budget and largest sets 67 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:39,280 for any film at that time, which is somewhere around 68 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:42,120 fifteen million dollars. It was the fastest grossing and highest 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,120 grossing film in nineteen fifty nine. It was the second 70 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:46,879 highest grossing film of all time up to that point, 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,759 behind It's the story of Judah ben Hur, a Jewish 72 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:52,360 man and set around the time of Christ. I know 73 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:55,240 it because of the famous chariot race scene. I've never 74 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:55,800 seen this movie. 75 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,919 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a good one. 76 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: It's classic. 77 00:03:57,599 --> 00:03:57,759 Speaker 1: Yep. 78 00:03:57,759 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: All right, dee, what can you tell me about space monkey? 79 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: All right? The US, starting in nineteen forty eight, began 80 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:08,360 a program where they were looking to put monkeys into 81 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,879 space in various rockets, and they did so. Unfortunately, all 82 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:15,840 of them died during their flights. It wasn't until nineteen 83 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:21,360 fifty nine that a young reis monkey named Abel appropriately enough, 84 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:26,279 and Miss Baker, a squirrel monkey, became the first monkeys 85 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:30,959 to successfully travel into space and successfully return to Earth. Now, 86 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:33,240 you may have an image in your head of space monkey, 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,800 but if you do, you're probably not actually thinking of 88 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,600 a monkey, probably thinking of a chimpanzee in a little 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,279 silver suit. Am I right? That's true? Yeah. The most 90 00:04:41,319 --> 00:04:45,079 famous quote unquote space monkey was Ham, who was sent 91 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:49,639 up as an American space satellite for suborbital flight as 92 00:04:49,879 --> 00:04:53,680 a prelude to sending a man into space. Ham was 93 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,680 not really a monkey, but a chimpanzee. The actual year 94 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,160 he went to space was nineteen sixty one. Apparently, was 95 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:02,839 also a mean little bastard who would often bite the 96 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,920 workers who tried to put him in the space capsule 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,360 and rugged poo on the wall. Can't really blame him either, 98 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:11,759 all right, Okay, guys, that does it for today's episode. 99 00:05:11,959 --> 00:05:15,680 Join us next time for five minutes of fire.