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<v Speaker 5>I'm Ali Ward. These are small Ologies episodes delivering blue, tiny,

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<v Speaker 5>the show notes. So with that, welcome to Smologies, which

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<v Speaker 5>are dropping twice today as a little honeymoon break debut

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<v Speaker 5>Thursdays as a bonus. So introducing somologies number one. Selenology

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<v Speaker 5>a word that comes from the Greek sellen for moon,

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<v Speaker 5>So get ready to bask in the glow of selenologist, raquel,

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<v Speaker 5>new nomology.

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<v Speaker 2>Old.

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<v Speaker 5>Prologyology, schologies. So what exactly would you say when you

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<v Speaker 5>introduce someone and say what you do? What do you

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<v Speaker 6>I tell them that I'm a planetary geologist. That's just

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<v Speaker 6>what I say. And people usually have no idea what

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<v Speaker 6>that means. They're like, I know geology, I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>planetary what does that even mean? So then I say

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a space geologist. I study rocks on other planets,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's what I tell them, And.

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<v Speaker 5>Then they lose their minds and then they're like what

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<v Speaker 5>does that?

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<v Speaker 6>What?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, that's what I do. So what does a

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<v Speaker 5>space geologist necessarily do?

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<v Speaker 6>So I say that I'm actually an armchair geologist, So

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<v Speaker 6>I sit on a chair and do geology.

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<v Speaker 5>You're reclining geologists, lining or geologists.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so we we have samples from rocks and other worlds,

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<v Speaker 6>but most of the time we don't. So I essentially

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<v Speaker 6>use spacecraft data to analyze either images. I also do

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of programming, so a lot of computational modeling

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<v Speaker 6>of what's happening surface processes that are happening in other worlds.

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<v Speaker 5>And so you are crunching numbers and data to try

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<v Speaker 5>to figure out what is happening with the rocks on

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, That's what I say.

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<v Speaker 5>That's crazy. Do all of the planets or just a

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<v Speaker 6>The planets, just a few of the planets. So my

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<v Speaker 6>two babies are the Moon and Mars. So Raquel got

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<v Speaker 6>her bachelor's in geophysics and space physics, she got a

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<v Speaker 6>master's inn geology, and she's now completing her PhD in

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<v Speaker 6>geology in planetary science. Is all at UCLA do A

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people tend to think that the Moon is

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<v Speaker 6>a planet. Okay that if you'd ask a planetary scientist,

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<v Speaker 6>they would say, yeah, it's a planet because it acts

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<v Speaker 6>like a planet, it behaves like a planet, but it's

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<v Speaker 6>just orbiting the Earth versus orbiting the Sun. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>not in the true definition of what a planet is.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not a planet. Have to say planetary body because

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<v Speaker 6>it's not technically a planet.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a planet if it's orbiting the Sun.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right.

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<v Speaker 5>How do you guys determine what's a planet, what's an exoplanet?

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<v Speaker 5>What's a planetary body? I mean, a planetary body is

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<v Speaker 5>not orbiting a sun, but it could be orbiting another planet.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, a planetary body can be a planet as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, so the Earth is a planetary body, but

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<v Speaker 6>so are asteroids. Asteroids are planetary bodies because they're orbiting.

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<v Speaker 6>They're in our Solar system, so they're a planetary body.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like it's kind of like a not all

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<v Speaker 5>cack not all succulents are cactive, but all cacti are.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, something like that. So you have to be round,

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<v Speaker 6>so you have to have enough gravity to have formed

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<v Speaker 6>a around shaped object. So there's a lot of asteroids

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<v Speaker 6>that are that look like potatoes or like weird dumb

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<v Speaker 6>bell things, and those are not could never be planets

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<v Speaker 6>because they're not shaped like a planet is. So you

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<v Speaker 6>have to have enough mass that you create enough gravity

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<v Speaker 6>to round out your your shape. You also have to

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<v Speaker 6>have cleared your orbit and what that means is that

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<v Speaker 6>there's no debris in front of your behind you. You

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<v Speaker 6>have collected all of the matter that's in your path

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<v Speaker 6>to form yourself, to form the planetary body.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I've ever realized that we're kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like a swiffer, Like that's part of where we get

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<v Speaker 5>all of our stuff to make things is just by

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<v Speaker 5>picking it up as we go.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So it's actually interesting. We Earth acquires a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of mass just by traveling through space. And when you

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<v Speaker 6>see like meteor showers, that's us traveling through a trail

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<v Speaker 6>of rocks of stuff that then encounters our atmosphere or

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<v Speaker 6>that we encounter it and then they come crashing in

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<v Speaker 6>beautiful light shows in the sky.

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<v Speaker 5>That's so exciting. Yeah, And have we always had the moon?

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<v Speaker 6>So the moon essentially, so the Moon formed very very

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<v Speaker 6>soon after the Earth did so essentially, when you're thinking

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<v Speaker 6>about geologic time, yes, the moon has always been here.

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<v Speaker 6>With that, I talk to a lot of people and

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<v Speaker 6>when I tell them what I do, Oh, you're an astronomer, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not. I don't. I'm not an astronomer. I'm a

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<v Speaker 6>planetary scientist. I study rocks. And it's funny to think

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<v Speaker 6>that a lot of the rovers, like all of the

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<v Speaker 6>rovers that have gone to Mars, they're all robotic geologists'

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<v Speaker 6>that's what they are. They're not astronomers. They're geologists.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah they're not. They're looking down, they're not They're not right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's right, that's hot. Goss about the moon. Okay, explain

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<v Speaker 5>to me where does this moon come from?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>So the cool thing is actually we're not one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>percent sure, which is really really cool. It's just how

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<v Speaker 6>many science questions are still left answering. We don't know

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<v Speaker 6>that much about the Moon. There's still so much more

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<v Speaker 6>to learn. But the idea is the prevalent, the one

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<v Speaker 6>that most people think is the real thing that happened

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<v Speaker 6>was that a marsized object, which we call THEA, was

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<v Speaker 6>just floating around space and crashed into the pro the

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<v Speaker 6>early Earth, and they collided and stuff. Kind of it

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<v Speaker 6>was flung out into space and coalesced to form the Moon.

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<v Speaker 6>When you look at what the Moon and the Earth

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<v Speaker 6>are made of, they're very similar. They look like they're

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<v Speaker 6>made of the same stuff. So we think that that's

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<v Speaker 6>what happened. Things collided, they mix together, and then a

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<v Speaker 6>big chunk of it got or several chunks of it

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<v Speaker 6>got flown into space and then eventually coalesced into what

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<v Speaker 6>our moon is today.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's gravity that's keeping it all together and into

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<v Speaker 5>a ball.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's how planets get bigger. You start out with

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<v Speaker 6>little dust particles that are electrically attracted to each other,

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<v Speaker 6>and they start getting sticking together, and everything has mass.

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<v Speaker 6>Even a tiny dust particle has mass, and so it

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<v Speaker 6>starts attracting the next dust particle. And then now now

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<v Speaker 6>you have little pebbles, and now the pebbles start getting

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<v Speaker 6>stuck together, and then eventually you form a planet that's

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<v Speaker 6>gravitationally bound to to itself.

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<v Speaker 5>So why on Earth aren't there more of these craters

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<v Speaker 5>to which we can take road trips.

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<v Speaker 6>Our atmosphere protects us from a lot of them. If

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<v Speaker 6>the rock is small enough, it'll just break up in

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<v Speaker 6>the atmosphere, whereas on the Moon, there is no atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll just slam into the ground and it'll be left.

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<v Speaker 6>There'll be a hole there. And that's actually one of

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<v Speaker 6>the cool things about studying the Moon. The Moon has

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<v Speaker 6>experienced pretty much everything that the Earth has experienced. So

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<v Speaker 6>and because it doesn't have plate tectonics and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>have an atmosphere, it acts as a witness plate to

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<v Speaker 6>everything that the Earth has experienced.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's why the surface of the Moon is pitted.

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<v Speaker 5>But what about the Moon itself? Does it have a

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<v Speaker 5>pit like a peach? What's of the Moon's core? Is

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<v Speaker 5>it like a jawbreaker? Raquel says, it has a core,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just much smaller than the Earth's.

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<v Speaker 6>One of the cool things that I think when I

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<v Speaker 6>think about the Moon and the impact that caused it,

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<v Speaker 6>was there was so much energy that collected from that

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<v Speaker 6>original impact that formed the Moon that the entire Moon

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<v Speaker 6>was just a magma ocean. So that's the Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 6>imagine the whole Moon. No, just magma. Yeah, So that's

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<v Speaker 6>what that's the prevailed theory. Here on Earth, we have

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<v Speaker 6>different types of rocks. We have igneous rocks atimentary rocks,

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<v Speaker 6>whereas the Moon, it's essentially, all that light stuff is

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<v Speaker 6>just one one thing, and the only way that you

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<v Speaker 6>can form something like that is if it all just

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<v Speaker 6>pretty much formed at the same time from the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>And so we think it's just a big anortheisie crust

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<v Speaker 6>except for the dark regions that you see on the moon,

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<v Speaker 6>and those are ancient volcanic planes.

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<v Speaker 5>How big around is the moon comparatively? What's the size

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<v Speaker 5>difference between the moon?

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<v Speaker 6>So if you were so, if the Earth were to

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<v Speaker 6>be a basketball, then the moon is a tennis ball.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, perfect, Yeah, done, amazing, That's how I like

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<v Speaker 6>to think of it. Yeah, so the side nearer to

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<v Speaker 6>us is actually the crust is thinner, so it's easier

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<v Speaker 6>for lavas to bubble up. And so what you see

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<v Speaker 6>when you look up those dark regions, we're just ancient

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<v Speaker 6>lava planes that flowed and found a low place on

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<v Speaker 5>And you can see more of those areas when the

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<v Speaker 6>So the faces of the moon are caused by what

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<v Speaker 5>So it's always a full moon somewhere.

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<v Speaker 6>It just depends on where you're hanging out, that's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's only our perspective that makes the phases of the

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<v Speaker 5>How does the moon affect the oceans and maybe us,

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<v Speaker 5>so the Moon has a.

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<v Speaker 6>Couple of effects on us. So it creates our tides,

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<v Speaker 6>moon and the Sun. A lot of people think it's

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<v Speaker 6>the Moon is stronger because it's it's closer, so it

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<v Speaker 6>pulls on our oceans depending on where it is on

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<v Speaker 6>the planet, which area where on the planet's closest to,

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<v Speaker 6>it's going to ug on that part of the planet.

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<v Speaker 6>So it actually tugs the rocks as well. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my gosh, so it's tulling.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So actually our earth is Yeah, our Earth is

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<v Speaker 6>at it. We tug at the moon as well.

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<v Speaker 6>And the other way it affects us as it slows

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<v Speaker 6>down our days. So the Earth used to be spinning

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<v Speaker 6>of conservation of momentum angular momentum, it has slowed down

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<v Speaker 5>So about every one hundred years, we get two point

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<v Speaker 5>five milliseconds slower, and in twenty twelve we had to

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<v Speaker 5>up for it. Moon's like I did that. Likewise, Earth's

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<v Speaker 5>gravity pulls on the Moon. The Moon slows down, and

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<v Speaker 5>then the Moon becomes what's called tidally locked, so its

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<v Speaker 5>orbit around us takes twenty eight days, and its own

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<v Speaker 5>rotation takes about twenty eight days, which means that it's

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<v Speaker 5>as you will hear, this was news to me. How

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<v Speaker 5>does the moon work? So the far side of the Moon,

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<v Speaker 5>what exactly is there? What's happening on the far side

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<v Speaker 5>of the Moon.

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<v Speaker 6>More craters, Okay, less lava, much less lava. Most of

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<v Speaker 6>the lava, the ancient lava fields are here on the

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<v Speaker 6>near side. Like I said, the crust is thinner, so

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<v Speaker 6>it's easier for lava to bubble up on this side.

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<v Speaker 6>The far side. It just like a much lighter color

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<v Speaker 6>to the Moon because it's mostly that Anorthas site that

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<v Speaker 6>I was talking about earlier, and lots of impact craters

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<v Speaker 5>So yes, the light side is on the dark side,

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<v Speaker 5>which is really the far side. So the far side

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<v Speaker 5>has tons of craters and it's lighter in color and

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<v Speaker 5>so far no alien communes. Now the near side is

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<v Speaker 5>smoother and has darker splotches of basalt. Those are called

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<v Speaker 5>were oceans. Now the mares are flatter and they have

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<v Speaker 5>fewer craters because it's younger terrain, so lighter parts a

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<v Speaker 5>north to side rock called the highlands. The darker parts

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<v Speaker 5>are basalt, called the mares. Boom.

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<v Speaker 6>So Pollo sixteen landed on in the Highlands, at the

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<v Speaker 6>lighter regions, but again they tried to look for a

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<v Speaker 6>place that was nice and flatten on the ladder craters

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<v Speaker 6>because it's safer for the astronauts and for the lander

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<v Speaker 6>to land in. And then Apollo seventeen landed right on

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<v Speaker 6>the edge between highlands and a mare because they were

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<v Speaker 6>trying to sample the rocks from the two different places.

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<v Speaker 5>How many times have we been to the moon? Six

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<v Speaker 5>We've been to the moon six times.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there's water there. Do you know that there's wait,

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<v Speaker 7>there's water on the moon ice water ice on the road? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>where is it in these at the poles? There's these

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<v Speaker 7>craters that never see sunlight. They're so deep that sunlight

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<v Speaker 7>never actually enters the crater, so they have not seen

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<v Speaker 7>sunlight for billions of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's actually one of the coldest places that we've

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<v Speaker 6>ever measured. The Solar system. Are inside these craters colder

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<v Speaker 6>than the surface of Pluto.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, yes, how cool? Is that? Literally? Very very cool?

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<v Speaker 1>So chilly.

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<v Speaker 6>Another reason the moon's cool is like there's lava caves.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you know about the caves?

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<v Speaker 5>Caves?

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<v Speaker 6>I look like, Yeah, there's caves where we can set

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<v Speaker 6>up human bases because they'll be shielded from radiation and

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<v Speaker 6>from the cold and the heat because the sun, the

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<v Speaker 6>sun heats up the surface a lot. So there's it's

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<v Speaker 6>it's either very very hot or very very cold, depending

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<v Speaker 6>on if you're in the shade or in the sun.

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<v Speaker 6>How cold how hot we talk in oh man, In

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<v Speaker 6>these permally shadowed craters, you can get down to fifteen

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<v Speaker 6>degrees calvin. So that's so zero kelvin is absolute zero,

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<v Speaker 6>and you can I mean, this is just fifteen degrees

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<v Speaker 6>higher than that.

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<v Speaker 5>Is very very very cold. So to put that in

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<v Speaker 5>context with the thermometer on your porch or like your

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<v Speaker 5>car's dashboard. Daylight on the Moon can get up to

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<v Speaker 5>two hundred and sixty degrees fahrenheit, and at night it's

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<v Speaker 5>a brisk negative two hundred and eighty fahrenheit. That's one

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<v Speaker 5>twenty seven celsius at its hottest and minus one seventy

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<v Speaker 5>three celsius when it's cold, which means if we do

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<v Speaker 5>end up cramming ourselves into caves on the Moon, we're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna need a lot of extra space just for scarves

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<v Speaker 5>and parkas for the thirteen Earth days of nighttime. Also

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<v Speaker 5>perhaps some flip flops and a hibachi for those long days,

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<v Speaker 5>and some sunscreen made out of magic. It's funny because

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<v Speaker 5>you think of the Moon. I think the images we

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<v Speaker 5>see of the Moon look relatively flat, and everything looks

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<v Speaker 5>so dark that it just seems there's something like it

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<v Speaker 5>just seems very inert. Oh like it must just be

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<v Speaker 5>like tepid room temperature and everything very flat. That's just

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<v Speaker 5>not what's happening.

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<v Speaker 7>I know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it just wanders from hot cold hot cold, And

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<v Speaker 6>so then we need to if we do set up

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<v Speaker 6>bases there, we need to shield our astronauts from that.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think caves are a good place to do it,

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<v Speaker 6>or maybe inside some of these craters.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean we started in caves here. Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 5>good point, right, Yeah, we should continue.

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<v Speaker 6>This is like the way to continue human exploration, to

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<v Speaker 6>just find caves and go live.

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<v Speaker 5>And would you ever go to the moon if given

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<v Speaker 5>a chance.

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<v Speaker 6>My opinion changes often Before I had kids, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>of course. And then I had kids, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>the self sustaining, so like thirty, bring them to the moon.

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<v Speaker 5>I would.

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<v Speaker 6>I would be so happy if my kids became astronauts.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why, Like it's it's super weird because

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<v Speaker 6>it's probably not the safest thing for them to do,

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<v Speaker 6>but to explore, I don't know, to become exploited. There's

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<v Speaker 6>something so poetic and beautiful about, you know, pushing the

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<v Speaker 6>boundaries of what humanity has done and can do do.

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<v Speaker 5>Her kids like the moon.

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<v Speaker 6>My little I mean, my my he's two and a

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<v Speaker 6>half now, but I think ever since he was like

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<v Speaker 6>a year and a half, he'll point to the moon

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<v Speaker 6>and be like moon Moon. Because I think, like every

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<v Speaker 6>night I set up the telescope just to look at

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<v Speaker 6>the Moon like almost every night. It's I love looking

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<v Speaker 6>at it, and it doesn't get old. Every time I

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<v Speaker 6>look at that eyeps or through my cameras, it's just

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't get old.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have favorite craters or mares or highlands?

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<v Speaker 6>I know the lingo, No, yeah, you're in it. I

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<v Speaker 6>really like Copernicus Crater and Eratosthenes. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 6>is they I think they pretty much set off the

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<v Speaker 6>entire field of lunar science. So and how we study

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<v Speaker 6>how things age and impact craters. So, Copernicus Crater is

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<v Speaker 6>a bright, bright crater. So this is something we could

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<v Speaker 6>talk about space weather. So if something is fresh, it's bright,

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<v Speaker 6>and as it's exposed to space weather, it darkens. So

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<v Speaker 6>if you see something that's a crater that's very bright

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<v Speaker 6>on the Moon, it's a younger crater than something else.

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<v Speaker 6>And the reason we knew this is because so this crater,

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<v Speaker 6>Copernicus Crater, has these crater rays, and crater rays are

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<v Speaker 6>material that were ejected during the impact. You punch the

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<v Speaker 6>ground and a lot of stuff comes up and then

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<v Speaker 6>gets flown all over the place and creating these beautiful

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<v Speaker 6>crater rays, and some of those crater rays went into

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<v Speaker 6>another crater. So that's how we knew that stuff that

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<v Speaker 6>was bright must be younger than the stuff that is darker,

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<v Speaker 6>because we have these rays that are going into these craters. So,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's how we call the superposition, and a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of dating on planetary bodies because we don't have samples

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<v Speaker 6>from it get done through these crater counting and superposition

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<v Speaker 6>principles of what is on top of something else.

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<v Speaker 5>So is it kind of like a paint drippings You

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<v Speaker 5>can tell what's on top because of the splatter.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, yeah, something like that. Yeah, And then we

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<v Speaker 6>use samples brought back from the Apollo missions to sort

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<v Speaker 6>of ground truth what we think the age of something is.

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<v Speaker 6>So now you can create a curve of how many

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<v Speaker 6>craters what does that mean for age?

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<v Speaker 5>Also, what's with this moon wobble that's in the news

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<v Speaker 5>these days. Well, scientists in the seventeen hundreds discovered that

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<v Speaker 5>the Moon's orbit does a little bit of a wonky

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<v Speaker 5>dip every eighteen point six years, and for half of

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<v Speaker 5>it the tides are a little lower and for the

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<v Speaker 5>other half tides will be higher. So hunker down for

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<v Speaker 5>that between twenty thirty and forty. Aren't we so thankful

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<v Speaker 5>for a planetary scientists so much that we're donating to

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<v Speaker 5>some of the ologists choosing since Raquel says, the Planetary

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's blaze through some questions. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 5>a lightning round? Okay, water The answer is yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>you got this. Julie wants to know, will we ever

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<v Speaker 5>know what's on the dark side?

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<v Speaker 6>So there's a spacecraft right now that's orbiting the Moon

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<v Speaker 6>called LRO, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, and it has taken spectacular,

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<v Speaker 6>high definition, beautiful pictures of the entire Moon. And you

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<v Speaker 6>can go to their website and find pictures of the

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<v Speaker 6>dark So hour fire sight's not the dark side, the

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<v Speaker 6>far side of the Moon. The coolest thing is that

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<v Speaker 6>I think those cameras have done They've actually imaged the

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<v Speaker 6>Paula landing sites, so you can see the footprints and

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<v Speaker 6>the rover prints that the astronauts left at the surface,

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<v Speaker 6>and like the lunar module and the rover, it's still

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<v Speaker 6>and you can see it. It's in the images that

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<v Speaker 6>were taken by l Rock, the cameras on board.

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<v Speaker 5>Lro Christina SHOWI wants to know which theory on the

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<v Speaker 5>origin of the Moon is your favorite.

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<v Speaker 6>The impact theory that thea hit early Earth and it

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<v Speaker 6>formed the Moon.

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<v Speaker 5>But now here we are and here we are. Lettia

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<v Speaker 5>McGinnis has a question that I'm sure so many people do,

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<v Speaker 5>which is do the phases of the moon affect people's moods?

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<v Speaker 5>You also worked a little bit in healthcare I did,

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<v Speaker 5>or the airports. No, it doesn't because the phase the

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<v Speaker 5>moon is still there. It's not any closer or any further.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, even if it does, like you wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 5>enoughffect on us. It's just the sunlight. One paper on

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<v Speaker 5>Martinez wants to know why don't we go back to

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<v Speaker 5>the moon.

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<v Speaker 6>I know That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>We should.

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<v Speaker 6>The moon is the next logical step.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's right there.

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<v Speaker 6>It's right there. We can set up bases we can

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<v Speaker 6>make things there, we can make fuel there. It's much

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<v Speaker 6>less gravity, so it's easier to launch from there. It

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<v Speaker 6>just makes so much sense to go to the Moon

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<v Speaker 6>and not Mars, like it's harder to leave the Earth's

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<v Speaker 6>gravity well, whereas it'd be so much easier to do

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<v Speaker 6>that from the Moon.

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<v Speaker 5>Rene Couli wants to know who owns the Moon?

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<v Speaker 6>Nobody, Okay, it's so. There is a space treaty that

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<v Speaker 6>was signed. I don't remember the year nineteen sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 6>but it says that no one nation owns anything in space.

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<v Speaker 6>Anna Thompson wants to know what is the biggest unknown

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<v Speaker 6>about the Moon still or the coolest thing we've learned

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<v Speaker 6>about the Moon?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think the.

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<v Speaker 6>Biggest sunknown is just how did it forms? It's so

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<v Speaker 6>similar to our Earth and made it the same stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>but you think it's a lot more it'd be a

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<v Speaker 6>lot more different, but it's not. And the coolest thing

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's water there.

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<v Speaker 5>There's Yeah, that's nuts. That's pretty cool. Bree Johnson wants

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<v Speaker 5>to know do you think there will ever be a

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<v Speaker 5>time where humans can live on the Moon? And Lindsey K.

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<v Speaker 5>Trotter also asked can we be colonize this thing or

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<v Speaker 5>what Yeah, for.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, but I think that it'll be more of a

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<v Speaker 6>jumping ground. You might go to the Moon first to

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<v Speaker 6>acclimate or you know, not acclimate in the sense of

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<v Speaker 6>acclimate to the weather, but acclimate to living and living

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<v Speaker 6>space environment or not earth lighter gravity?

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<v Speaker 5>And how's the gravity on the Moon versus Mars.

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<v Speaker 6>A sixth so you could jump pretty high?

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<v Speaker 5>E Brown asked, I didn't even think of this question.

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<v Speaker 5>How come you can sometimes see the Moon during the day?

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<v Speaker 6>So the Moon is always orbiting us, So sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 6>orbiting us when it's nighttime and sometimes it's during it's daytime,

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<v Speaker 6>So it's always either on our side during the day

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<v Speaker 6>or on the other side. So it just depends on

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<v Speaker 6>where it is on its orbit.

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<v Speaker 5>What's the best thing about what you do or the

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<v Speaker 5>best thing about the moon?

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<v Speaker 6>The best thing is getting to think about these things

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<v Speaker 6>that are so much bigger than myself. It takes me

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<v Speaker 6>out of whatever is going on in my personal life

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<v Speaker 6>or whatever is going on in the world. Just focusing

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<v Speaker 6>on something that is just out there and it's so

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<v Speaker 6>much bigger than us and bigger than whatever is happening

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<v Speaker 6>in our world. Is kind of like a vacation in

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<v Speaker 6>a way of everyday problems, and I think that that's

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<v Speaker 6>what I love the most about it.

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<v Speaker 5>And we love Roquelle Nuno, selenologist and everybody's best moon

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<v Speaker 5>friend and also a planetary geologist who has the word

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<v Speaker 5>rock in her first name. It's amazing. Follow Roquel on

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<v Speaker 5>Instagram and Twitter at the space Geologist. Her handle is

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<v Speaker 5>linked in the show notes. We are at ologies. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>at ali Ward with one L and since this is

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<v Speaker 5>a shorty episode, you can find all the credits of

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<v Speaker 5>all the amazing folks who work on the show in

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<v Speaker 5>the show notes too, and at aliward dot com slash smologies. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>one last thing before I go, some dad word life

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<v Speaker 5>advice which I will cap every episode with. So sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>when you're tired, are cranky, you're just thirsty. So if

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<v Speaker 5>you're having a bad day, hydrate and see if that helps. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>go ask questions probie somologites, smology, olomologies, smologies.

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