Speaker 1: Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome this glorious Friday
Speaker 1: afternoon in the tri States. Bengals Bengals kick it off
Speaker 1: plus Sunday key game. Of course, they are here to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more healthy, except for t Higgins
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are in town. They beat the Raiders,
Speaker 1: beat the Ravens. On Thursday night of next week. They
Speaker 1: go to the break. They're in good shape, and they
Speaker 1: come back and maybe, according to Joe Burrow, wins seven
Speaker 1: of the next nine games. That means they win those
Speaker 1: two and they only have to win five of the
Speaker 1: next seven. They're in hog Heaven and away we go.
Speaker 1: But until then you may not know. The election al
Speaker 1: is hot and heavy. Every phrase, every apostrophe is being
Speaker 1: dissected by the mainstream media. But one person on the ground,
Speaker 1: like Willie Nelson on the road again is Brian Nton
Speaker 1: of News Nations starting in New Jersey, ending in California,
Speaker 1: and Brian Nton, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Brian, at this point, can you tell the American
Speaker 1: people about a week before you began your journey, what
Speaker 1: did you pitch to Sean Compton and other What was
Speaker 1: your mission when you started this a few weeks back.
Speaker 2: My mission was to avoid going to the same political
Speaker 2: rallies on both sides over and over again, hearing the
Speaker 2: same speeches and talking to the same people. I just
Speaker 2: wanted to talk to everyday Americans and get a pulse
Speaker 2: of what was really going on in the country. And
Speaker 2: luckily they let me do it. And you said, we
Speaker 2: started in New Jersey and we drove all the way
Speaker 2: across the country. It took us about ten days, and
Speaker 2: we shot stories all along the way. We've got a
Speaker 2: big special it's gonna era Monday night on the CW
Speaker 2: and it's awesome. I mean it just it was awesome.
Speaker 2: I had never done the cross country trip. I mean
Speaker 2: it was beautiful to see all the different parts of
Speaker 2: America and talk to people.
Speaker 1: Did you spend time in Pennsylvania, which I g guess
Speaker 1: now is the state of interest And there's a poll
Speaker 1: out this morning the head the Trumps drew up about
Speaker 1: three points, which I don't believe. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be one or two points. But when you got
Speaker 1: to Pennsylvania or so, what did you find, if anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, in Pennsylvania, we focused on black men just because
Speaker 2: there're been some issues with the with the polling for
Speaker 2: Harris and that department some surprises there. We went to
Speaker 2: a couple of black barber shops and sound and there
Speaker 2: was more Trump support than I expected in those areas.
Speaker 2: You know, there's been a lot of crime in those
Speaker 2: neighborhoods and small businesses that had been broken into and
Speaker 2: people are concerned about that, and we found a lot
Speaker 2: of Trump support. So the poll you're talking about doesn't
Speaker 2: really surprise me. I think it's going to be close.
Speaker 2: I mean, after going through all the states, you know,
Speaker 2: that's that's I mean, it's no surprise there. But that's
Speaker 2: really that's really the feeling that I get.
Speaker 1: And most of the polling in the past have had
Speaker 1: the black vote for Democrats above ninety percent. I think
Speaker 1: that the high mark was Obama in twenty oh eight.
Speaker 1: I think you had ninety three percent of the black vote,
Speaker 1: and it was like almost tribalism that if you're black,
Speaker 1: you've got to vote for the first black president, and
Speaker 1: therefore they did. Why doesn't the same principle apply because
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris identifies either as African American or Indian. But
Speaker 1: was there a sense that's just like Charlemagne that God
Speaker 1: once was told to by Joe Biden, if you don't
Speaker 1: vote for me, you ain't black man. Was there a
Speaker 1: sense that they're a little bit of a rebellion against that,
Speaker 1: against the idea that because I'm a black mail, I'm
Speaker 1: going to vote for Kamala Harris Or was it gender based,
Speaker 1: race based, or policy based.
Speaker 2: I think there was a sense that the black community
Speaker 2: in some ways feels like they've been taking advantage of
Speaker 2: by the Democratic Party, like they're automatically going to get
Speaker 2: their vote. And in Philly there were a lot of
Speaker 2: people who felt like, you know, the Democrats haven't really
Speaker 2: paid attention to their communities, haven't invested in their communities. Again,
Speaker 2: crime was a big issue, the same thing with Latito's.
Speaker 2: I went through Nevada. We did a whole big series
Speaker 2: of stories in Nevada, and you know, they've traditionally voted
Speaker 2: Democrat over the years, and there's a lot of changes there.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot more. We went back dug to
Speaker 2: the voter registration numbers, a lot more switching over to
Speaker 2: the Republican Party, saying that you know, the family values
Speaker 2: they feel more in line with. And then you've got
Speaker 2: people though it was so interesting. I mean, you've got
Speaker 2: people who came to the country legally, you know, or
Speaker 2: their parents did, and they're really the Latitas. A lot
Speaker 2: of them are really mad about what they see at
Speaker 2: the border, Like they don't like seeing people cross what
Speaker 2: they call the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Going back to the black barbershop where the Trumpster was there,
Speaker 1: I think in the Bronx they went to a black
Speaker 1: barbershop and then Kamala Harris followed it up with a
Speaker 1: trip to another black barbershop. That's kind of the touchtone
Speaker 1: of the culture and urban communities, the black male barbershop
Speaker 1: where men get together, talk like men, act like men,
Speaker 1: hair as men, where men and the women go to
Speaker 1: the beauty salon, which is different. But nonetheless, was there
Speaker 1: a sense in the black barbershop community that the Trumpster
Speaker 1: is more like them than Kamala Harris because he's a male,
Speaker 1: or because the policies, or and I think there's a
Speaker 1: sense that women feel the direct opposite. If you would
Speaker 1: have gone into a beauty salon well a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of women, I would think it'd be completely the opposite direction.
Speaker 1: And nonetheless, the experts, you don't watch all the cable
Speaker 1: news shows as I do. I watch News Nation, I
Speaker 1: watch MSNBC, I watch Fox, I often record CNN, And
Speaker 1: all the so called pundits are saying, this is a
Speaker 1: head fake. It's not gonna happen when push comes to shove,
Speaker 1: and that's the election, about half the there's going to
Speaker 1: be seventy five or eighty million early votes, which is
Speaker 1: going to be half the total it's going to be done.
Speaker 1: That's a head fake, and that they really don't mean it,
Speaker 1: They really don't mean that. I'm fifteen percent, eighteen percent
Speaker 1: of black males are going to vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Did your findings refute that notion?
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean listening, we went to a
Speaker 2: couple of barbershops and I would say it was about
Speaker 2: fifty fifty in terms of who people were supporting, and
Speaker 2: and even some of the folks who didn't necessarily like
Speaker 2: Trump were still leaning towards voting form again just based
Speaker 2: on some of the policies. It was interesting. I hadn't
Speaker 2: gone back and dug into it, but people have. I mean,
Speaker 2: they don't feel like Kamala Harris treated black men fairly
Speaker 2: when she was the DA when you know, when she
Speaker 2: was a prosecutor in California. I mean people feel that way,
Speaker 2: which I thought was interesting that came up. And you know,
Speaker 2: Trump was big on, you know, criminal justice reform and
Speaker 2: prison reform, which has reverberated through the black community, so
Speaker 2: I was surprised that some folks had even dug into that.
Speaker 1: And in fact, she locked up a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: black men who were smoking pot for reasons unclear, because
Speaker 1: when she was the DA some twenty twenty three years
Speaker 1: ago in San Francisco, there was a sense that marijuana
Speaker 1: is a permissible drug. But according to the records, she
Speaker 1: went out of her way to cite and lock up
Speaker 1: if required, black males who maybe in San Francisco disproportionately
Speaker 1: use marijuana. And now she pictures herself as somewhat different,
Speaker 1: and that anger in fact that at one point during
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen debates, I recall Tulsey Gabbert, who was
Speaker 1: a Democrat at the time, taking her to task for
Speaker 1: locking up over one thousand black men in San Francisco
Speaker 1: on minor drug charges, which by twenty nineteen was you
Speaker 1: don't do that in the city of Cincinnati. You can
Speaker 1: smoke pot openly in Washington Park, and downtown Cincinnati. It's
Speaker 1: no big deal, even though you shouldn't do it because
Speaker 1: the police chief tells the men and women in blue
Speaker 1: don't give people citations for that. So it appears that
Speaker 1: she went out of her way in San Francisco to
Speaker 1: lock up black men for minor use of drug offens.
Speaker 1: These aren't the dealers. These are guys walking around. And
Speaker 1: is that feeling when you presented that questions in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Iowa, Wyoming,
Speaker 1: all the way across, was that the same feeling you
Speaker 1: got that she said one thing and did another.
Speaker 2: I think people are having a hard time figuring out
Speaker 2: exactly who she is. And in Pennsylvania, just back to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: You go to these swing states, Bill, and they're inundated
Speaker 2: with ads. You don't, I mean, you used to be
Speaker 2: in a swing statement in Ohio, But you don't realize
Speaker 2: until you're in the hotel room in Pennsylvania or in
Speaker 2: North Carolina or Nevada, that you know these the two
Speaker 2: live there. It's like they're living and breathing this all day.
Speaker 2: They turn on the TV, that's all the time. The
Speaker 2: text message is non stop, the phone calls, the signs
Speaker 2: are everywhere, the billboards are everywhere, Like unless you're there,
Speaker 2: you don't feel that. And there were a lot of
Speaker 2: ads in Pennsylvania about her record in California when it
Speaker 2: came to some of the things you were talking about
Speaker 2: and the prosecution, So yeah, it was it was, it
Speaker 2: came up. I didn't hear it as much in other states.
Speaker 2: There were some other issues that, you know, you went
Speaker 2: out to Michigan, it was kind of more about the
Speaker 2: economy there. I talked to a lot of African Americas
Speaker 2: there that worked at the car manufacturing plants who were
Speaker 2: excited by the idea of the first black female president.
Speaker 2: But again went, well, my paycheck was bigger under Trump,
Speaker 2: and you know, I need the money right now, can't
Speaker 2: afford the groceries. So that that was interesting, And yeah,
Speaker 2: we just kind of worked our way across it, and
Speaker 2: we did we did latinos in Nevada. What struck me
Speaker 2: the most, kind of focusing, like thinking about now that
Speaker 2: it's over, is like you mentioned, you watch a lot
Speaker 2: of cable news, You watch THEMSNBC, you watch Fox. They
Speaker 2: make you think that everybody hates each other like that.
Speaker 2: It's just that nobody gets along nobody, and that's really
Speaker 2: not the truth. I mean, like when we're in the barbershops,
Speaker 2: half the people are Republican, half are Democrat, and they
Speaker 2: all like laugh with each other. And it was the
Speaker 2: same for the most part everywhere we went. Uh So,
Speaker 2: I think, in like real American towns and cities, like,
Speaker 2: it's not as divisive as they make it out to be.
Speaker 1: I don't think absolutely, I have believe it or not.
Speaker 1: I have friends that are liberals. I have friends who
Speaker 1: think abortion is a sacrament. I have friends who think
Speaker 1: it's the killing of unborn, healthy babies. And we get
Speaker 1: along fine, except I know how they're going to vote,
Speaker 1: and I try to persuade them a little bit, but
Speaker 1: at some point it's like, forget about it. I'm still
Speaker 1: friends with Democrats. I like Democrats. They're people too. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tony Bender is the kind of guy. He's a liberal
Speaker 1: Democrat from Boone County. He believes in the agenda of liberalism.
Speaker 1: But he's still my friend. I still like him. But
Speaker 1: if you watch MSNBC, then watch Breitbart or Fox News,
Speaker 1: my god, you would think we're at each other's throats.
Speaker 1: This is the most supportant election in American history. We
Speaker 1: either become fascist or become a nation of he, she,
Speaker 1: and seventy four different pronouns. You have to go one
Speaker 1: way or not. In reality, you can walk into a
Speaker 1: black barbershop and I'd say, Brian Innton, maybe you weren't
Speaker 1: around as a reporter in the eight when Obama ran,
Speaker 1: but that same barbershop and eight would have been for
Speaker 1: Barack Husain Obama and right now that's not the case.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say?
Speaker 2: That's totally fair to say, one hundred percent. And I
Speaker 2: think that's another way that people get tricked a little
Speaker 2: is they don't always portray that on the news. They
Speaker 2: that these minorities that there's a lot of them who
Speaker 2: support Trump or who are thinking about it, or who
Speaker 2: don't really believe that he's the bad guy that they
Speaker 2: try to make him out to be. That's the sense
Speaker 2: that I got all across the country. Great, where there
Speaker 2: people who really don't like him, Yes, but there were
Speaker 2: a lot more people in the middle that weren't buying
Speaker 2: into you know, like for example, we were on the road,
Speaker 2: you know, when all this stuff came down about the
Speaker 2: Hitler remarks and the comment about oh, I can't remember
Speaker 2: exactly what was said, but oh, he wants generals like
Speaker 2: Hitler and so Leland, you know. On News Nation, one
Speaker 2: of the anglers said, hey, Brian, like, why don't you
Speaker 2: start asking people about this. I'm curious what they think.
Speaker 2: And most people just were kind of like, well, did
Speaker 2: he really say it that way? I don't know that
Speaker 2: I really believe the context. I don't think you really
Speaker 2: mentioned that way. But if you turn on the news there,
Speaker 2: like everybody thinks he's Hitler, you know, right.
Speaker 1: In Michigan. Michigan's another key state on the economy. The
Speaker 1: head of the OAW is a left right I think
Speaker 1: his name is Fane or something like that, endorsing completely
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. On the other hand, the rank and file
Speaker 1: feel differently because they understand that the government mandates with
Speaker 1: EVS means EV's going to be going to be put
Speaker 1: together in Mexico. They're not going to be put together
Speaker 1: in Michigan, and so the rank and file feel differently
Speaker 1: than the leadership with the team shirts, et cetera. Did
Speaker 1: the placement of the so called paroles from Cuba and
Speaker 1: from Haiti and from Venezuela, did they anyone bring up
Speaker 1: on the road again, about the the serious influx of
Speaker 1: so called paroles in a small town America was out
Speaker 1: of factor.
Speaker 2: That was a factor. The border came up again and
Speaker 2: again and again. It was interesting that it is with
Speaker 2: Latinos a lot who are mad to see it happening,
Speaker 2: where I think some people think they be the ones like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I and granted we did here. We don't
Speaker 2: like the rhetoric that they're all criminals and that makes
Speaker 2: them feel bad, but they also don't think that people
Speaker 2: should just be able to walk in. But it's interesting
Speaker 2: you talk about the auto workers and the unions. A
Speaker 2: lot of the auto workers were mad, Like you watch
Speaker 2: the news and you think that all the auto walk
Speaker 2: workers are Democrats. They don't like take a vote when
Speaker 2: they decide to endorse Harris, like there was like a
Speaker 2: voter or anything like that, which I just assumed like
Speaker 2: they must have done some kind of poll or something
Speaker 2: and that's how they decide who the endorsements going to go.
Speaker 2: Do that doesn't happen, So a lot of the workers
Speaker 2: feel like underrepresented that. But then you know, on the
Speaker 2: other side, so we talked to a lot of Trump
Speaker 2: supporter auto workers, but there were some that said, look,
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for the bailouts, and we heard this
Speaker 2: a lot, if it wasn't for the bailouts after the
Speaker 2: you know, the recession in two thousand and eight, where
Speaker 2: you know where they saved all these auto companies Obama,
Speaker 2: a lot of these people felt like they wouldn't have jobs.
Speaker 2: So they almost feel like they have to vote Democrat now,
Speaker 2: like they have this sort of allegiance to the party,
Speaker 2: which was interesting.
Speaker 1: And lastly, the teamsters, they had to vote of the
Speaker 1: rank and file, it was like sixty percent teamsters for Trump,
Speaker 1: but the leadership said, wow, that's not enough. Wow, after all,
Speaker 1: we have a division here. We're not going to endorse Trump,
Speaker 1: but the truckers do. I thought sixty percent was a
Speaker 1: low number. Lastly, in Nevada, which is a key state.
Speaker 1: Most of the polling now has the trump Ster up
Speaker 1: in Arizona by a little bit more than Nevada, just badly.
Speaker 1: And I would have thought in the culinary unions, which
Speaker 1: has thousands of members, they vote in lockstep. Did you
Speaker 1: have a sense this time they're not going to vote
Speaker 1: in lockstep for the Democrat.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I think it goes back to similar with
Speaker 2: the with the black vote. I think they feel like
Speaker 2: they try to put them all into one box and
Speaker 2: that they you know, I think people are over that.
Speaker 2: I think that they it's it's not I think they're
Speaker 2: offended by it. You know, they get offended that everybody
Speaker 2: thinks that they're one way or the other. And you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the Latinos we spoke to like Trump
Speaker 2: so and also the numbers show that in terms of
Speaker 2: the voter registrations ahead of the election, there were a
Speaker 2: lots switching over to the Republican Party. So it's going
Speaker 2: to be interesting to see what happens in Nevada. We
Speaker 2: went through Utah, which was beautiful after we uh, after
Speaker 2: we left Vegas.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been to Zion. That was
Speaker 2: all I mean, that's that's a red state. But it
Speaker 2: was just interesting to drive through. And then we ended
Speaker 2: in California, which everybody thinks California, you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just a big bluestate wise. It interesting politically, but there
Speaker 2: were some interesting political storylines there too. Bill. You know,
Speaker 2: they've they've switched for House seats read since twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: They're one of the reasons that that the House is
Speaker 2: read them in New York and the Asian community there
Speaker 2: is switching over to the Republican already like crazy, which
Speaker 2: no one really focuses on. We did a story on that.
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're transferring over in droves, upset about crime.
Speaker 2: I mean, we were in San Francisco. It's it's crazy,
Speaker 2: what's happening there, Bill, in such a beautiful city.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost destroyed. In fact, aren't downtown businesses closed?
Speaker 1: Office buildings are empty. Fishermen's Wharf doesn't exist anymore. There's
Speaker 1: a hollywooing out of that city. Is that fair to say?
Speaker 2: I mean, I will say it kind of reminds you
Speaker 2: what you always hear about Chicago. You go there and
Speaker 2: it is still a beautiful city, and I was. I've
Speaker 2: been there the last couple of days. I think some
Speaker 2: of it gets a little overhyped. It was Honestly, in
Speaker 2: some areas it wasn't as bad as I expected. But
Speaker 2: in other areas, yes, there's an open air drug market.
Speaker 2: The weirdest thing. Bill my photographer were crossing the street
Speaker 2: and we accidentally jay walked, and there was police officers
Speaker 2: that like kind of got on to us about it,
Speaker 2: and there was a guy smoking mess right on the corner,
Speaker 2: and that's okay, you know, but like you get taught.
Speaker 2: It just it just hit me in that moment, like, wait,
Speaker 2: we just got a talking to for jay walking and
Speaker 2: the guy's smoking mess. And then there was this other
Speaker 2: thing that kind of hit me, Like there's cars, the
Speaker 2: cars that are parked on the street, they have little
Speaker 2: signs in the window that they've printed out on their computer,
Speaker 2: nothing valuable inside, and they hang the sign on each
Speaker 2: door on each side of their car because that's what
Speaker 2: they have to do so that no one breaks in
Speaker 2: or people will leave their windows open. I just like
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 1: Well, it's the way things are. And Cincinnati, we've had
Speaker 1: so many car break ins. I've seen many signs hung
Speaker 1: in windows, no valuables, and I tell people, don't lock
Speaker 1: your doors, leave nothing of value inside. We've had hundreds
Speaker 1: of break ins of car windows looking for guns and
Speaker 1: money and whatever. And the best thing to do is
Speaker 1: do not lock the doors and leave nothing of value
Speaker 1: in which case that's your best chance of not having
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars bill for a car window. It's everywhere
Speaker 1: in America today. Well, once again Brian, then you've been fabulous.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Bill.
Speaker 1: Continue with more.
Speaker 2: There it is.
Speaker 1: Things are better than you think. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be a civil war. The Earth's not going to quit
Speaker 1: spinning on his axis. If Kamala Harris's wins, it's just
Speaker 1: going to be part of the world's going to be disrupted.
Speaker 1: We're all going to look like San Francisco in the wharf.
Speaker 1: Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW