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<v Speaker 1>Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome this glorious Friday

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon in the tri States. Bengals Bengals kick it off

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<v Speaker 1>plus Sunday key game. Of course, they are here to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more healthy, except for t Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>and the Raiders are in town. They beat the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Ravens. On Thursday night of next week. They

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<v Speaker 1>go to the break. They're in good shape, and they

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<v Speaker 1>come back and maybe, according to Joe Burrow, wins seven

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<v Speaker 1>of the next nine games. That means they win those

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<v Speaker 1>two and they only have to win five of the

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<v Speaker 1>next seven. They're in hog Heaven and away we go.

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<v Speaker 1>But until then you may not know. The election al

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<v Speaker 1>is hot and heavy. Every phrase, every apostrophe is being

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<v Speaker 1>dissected by the mainstream media. But one person on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>like Willie Nelson on the road again is Brian Nton

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<v Speaker 1>of News Nations starting in New Jersey, ending in California,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian Nton, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brian, at this point, can you tell the American

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<v Speaker 1>people about a week before you began your journey, what

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<v Speaker 1>did you pitch to Sean Compton and other What was

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<v Speaker 1>your mission when you started this a few weeks back.

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<v Speaker 2>My mission was to avoid going to the same political

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<v Speaker 2>rallies on both sides over and over again, hearing the

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<v Speaker 2>same speeches and talking to the same people. I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to talk to everyday Americans and get a pulse

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<v Speaker 2>of what was really going on in the country. And

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<v Speaker 2>luckily they let me do it. And you said, we

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<v Speaker 2>started in New Jersey and we drove all the way

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<v Speaker 2>across the country. It took us about ten days, and

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<v Speaker 2>we shot stories all along the way. We've got a

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<v Speaker 2>big special it's gonna era Monday night on the CW

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<v Speaker 2>and it's awesome. I mean it just it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I had never done the cross country trip. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was beautiful to see all the different parts of

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<v Speaker 2>America and talk to people.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you spend time in Pennsylvania, which I g guess

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<v Speaker 1>now is the state of interest And there's a poll

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<v Speaker 1>out this morning the head the Trumps drew up about

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<v Speaker 1>three points, which I don't believe. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one or two points. But when you got

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<v Speaker 1>to Pennsylvania or so, what did you find, if anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in Pennsylvania, we focused on black men just because

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<v Speaker 2>there're been some issues with the with the polling for

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<v Speaker 2>Harris and that department some surprises there. We went to

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of black barber shops and sound and there

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<v Speaker 2>was more Trump support than I expected in those areas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's been a lot of crime in those

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhoods and small businesses that had been broken into and

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<v Speaker 2>people are concerned about that, and we found a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Trump support. So the poll you're talking about doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really surprise me. I think it's going to be close.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, after going through all the states, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's I mean, it's no surprise there. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>really that's really the feeling that I get.

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<v Speaker 1>And most of the polling in the past have had

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<v Speaker 1>the black vote for Democrats above ninety percent. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the high mark was Obama in twenty oh eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you had ninety three percent of the black vote,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like almost tribalism that if you're black,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to vote for the first black president, and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore they did. Why doesn't the same principle apply because

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris identifies either as African American or Indian. But

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<v Speaker 1>was there a sense that's just like Charlemagne that God

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<v Speaker 1>once was told to by Joe Biden, if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>vote for me, you ain't black man. Was there a

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<v Speaker 1>sense that they're a little bit of a rebellion against that,

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<v Speaker 1>against the idea that because I'm a black mail, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to vote for Kamala Harris Or was it gender based,

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<v Speaker 1>race based, or policy based.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there was a sense that the black community

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<v Speaker 2>in some ways feels like they've been taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 2>by the Democratic Party, like they're automatically going to get

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<v Speaker 2>their vote. And in Philly there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people who felt like, you know, the Democrats haven't really

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<v Speaker 2>paid attention to their communities, haven't invested in their communities. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>crime was a big issue, the same thing with Latito's.

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<v Speaker 2>I went through Nevada. We did a whole big series

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<v Speaker 2>of stories in Nevada, and you know, they've traditionally voted

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat over the years, and there's a lot of changes there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot more. We went back dug to

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<v Speaker 2>the voter registration numbers, a lot more switching over to

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party, saying that you know, the family values

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<v Speaker 2>they feel more in line with. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 2>people though it was so interesting. I mean, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>people who came to the country legally, you know, or

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<v Speaker 2>their parents did, and they're really the Latitas. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them are really mad about what they see at

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<v Speaker 2>the border, Like they don't like seeing people cross what

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<v Speaker 2>they call the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to the black barbershop where the Trumpster was there,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the Bronx they went to a black

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<v Speaker 1>barbershop and then Kamala Harris followed it up with a

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<v Speaker 1>trip to another black barbershop. That's kind of the touchtone

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<v Speaker 1>of the culture and urban communities, the black male barbershop

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<v Speaker 1>where men get together, talk like men, act like men,

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<v Speaker 1>hair as men, where men and the women go to

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty salon, which is different. But nonetheless, was there

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<v Speaker 1>a sense in the black barbershop community that the Trumpster

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<v Speaker 1>is more like them than Kamala Harris because he's a male,

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<v Speaker 1>or because the policies, or and I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>sense that women feel the direct opposite. If you would

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<v Speaker 1>have gone into a beauty salon well a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of women, I would think it'd be completely the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And nonetheless, the experts, you don't watch all the cable

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<v Speaker 1>news shows as I do. I watch News Nation, I

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<v Speaker 1>watch MSNBC, I watch Fox, I often record CNN, And

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<v Speaker 1>all the so called pundits are saying, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>head fake. It's not gonna happen when push comes to shove,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the election, about half the there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be seventy five or eighty million early votes, which is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be half the total it's going to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a head fake, and that they really don't mean it,

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<v Speaker 1>They really don't mean that. I'm fifteen percent, eighteen percent

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<v Speaker 1>of black males are going to vote for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Did your findings refute that notion?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I mean listening, we went to a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of barbershops and I would say it was about

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<v Speaker 2>fifty fifty in terms of who people were supporting, and

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<v Speaker 2>and even some of the folks who didn't necessarily like

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<v Speaker 2>Trump were still leaning towards voting form again just based

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<v Speaker 2>on some of the policies. It was interesting. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>gone back and dug into it, but people have. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't feel like Kamala Harris treated black men fairly

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<v Speaker 2>when she was the DA when you know, when she

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<v Speaker 2>was a prosecutor in California. I mean people feel that way,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought was interesting that came up. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump was big on, you know, criminal justice reform and

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<v Speaker 2>prison reform, which has reverberated through the black community, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised that some folks had even dug into that.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, she locked up a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>when she was the DA some twenty twenty three years

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<v Speaker 1>ago in San Francisco, there was a sense that marijuana

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<v Speaker 1>is a permissible drug. But according to the records, she

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<v Speaker 1>went out of her way to cite and lock up

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<v Speaker 1>if required, black males who maybe in San Francisco disproportionately

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<v Speaker 1>use marijuana. And now she pictures herself as somewhat different,

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<v Speaker 1>and that anger in fact that at one point during

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen debates, I recall Tulsey Gabbert, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat at the time, taking her to task for

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<v Speaker 1>locking up over one thousand black men in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>on minor drug charges, which by twenty nineteen was you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that in the city of Cincinnati. You can

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<v Speaker 1>smoke pot openly in Washington Park, and downtown Cincinnati. It's

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<v Speaker 1>no big deal, even though you shouldn't do it because

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<v Speaker 1>don't give people citations for that. So it appears that

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<v Speaker 1>she went out of her way in San Francisco to

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<v Speaker 1>lock up black men for minor use of drug offens.

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<v Speaker 1>These aren't the dealers. These are guys walking around. And

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<v Speaker 1>is that feeling when you presented that questions in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Iowa, Wyoming,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way across, was that the same feeling you

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<v Speaker 1>got that she said one thing and did another.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people are having a hard time figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>exactly who she is. And in Pennsylvania, just back to Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to these swing states, Bill, and they're inundated

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<v Speaker 2>with ads. You don't, I mean, you used to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a swing statement in Ohio, But you don't realize

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<v Speaker 2>until you're in the hotel room in Pennsylvania or in

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina or Nevada, that you know these the two

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<v Speaker 2>live there. It's like they're living and breathing this all day.

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<v Speaker 2>They turn on the TV, that's all the time. The

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<v Speaker 2>text message is non stop, the phone calls, the signs

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<v Speaker 2>are everywhere, the billboards are everywhere, Like unless you're there,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't feel that. And there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>ads in Pennsylvania about her record in California when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to some of the things you were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>and the prosecution, So yeah, it was it was, it

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<v Speaker 2>came up. I didn't hear it as much in other states.

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<v Speaker 2>There were some other issues that, you know, you went

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<v Speaker 2>out to Michigan, it was kind of more about the

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<v Speaker 2>economy there. I talked to a lot of African Americas

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<v Speaker 2>there that worked at the car manufacturing plants who were

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<v Speaker 2>excited by the idea of the first black female president.

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<v Speaker 2>But again went, well, my paycheck was bigger under Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>afford the groceries. So that that was interesting, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we just kind of worked our way across it, and

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<v Speaker 2>the most, kind of focusing, like thinking about now that

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<v Speaker 2>it's over, is like you mentioned, you watch a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of cable news, You watch THEMSNBC, you watch Fox. They

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<v Speaker 2>make you think that everybody hates each other like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that nobody gets along nobody, and that's really

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<v Speaker 2>not the truth. I mean, like when we're in the barbershops,

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<v Speaker 2>half the people are Republican, half are Democrat, and they

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<v Speaker 2>all like laugh with each other. And it was the

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<v Speaker 2>same for the most part everywhere we went. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, in like real American towns and cities, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not as divisive as they make it out to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think absolutely, I have believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I have friends that are liberals. I have friends who

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<v Speaker 1>think abortion is a sacrament. I have friends who think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the killing of unborn, healthy babies. And we get

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<v Speaker 1>along fine, except I know how they're going to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>and I try to persuade them a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>at some point it's like, forget about it. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Democrats. I like Democrats. They're people too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Bender is the kind of guy. He's a liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat from Boone County. He believes in the agenda of liberalism.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's still my friend. I still like him. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you watch MSNBC, then watch Breitbart or Fox News,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you would think we're at each other's throats.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most supportant election in American history. We

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<v Speaker 1>either become fascist or become a nation of he, she,

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy four different pronouns. You have to go one

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<v Speaker 1>way or not. In reality, you can walk into a

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<v Speaker 1>black barbershop and I'd say, Brian Innton, maybe you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>Barack Husain Obama and right now that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair to say?

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<v Speaker 2>That's totally fair to say, one hundred percent. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's another way that people get tricked a little

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<v Speaker 2>is they don't always portray that on the news. They

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<v Speaker 2>that these minorities that there's a lot of them who

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<v Speaker 2>support Trump or who are thinking about it, or who

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<v Speaker 2>don't really believe that he's the bad guy that they

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<v Speaker 2>try to make him out to be. That's the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that I got all across the country. Great, where there

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<v Speaker 2>people who really don't like him, Yes, but there were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more people in the middle that weren't buying

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<v Speaker 2>into you know, like for example, we were on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when all this stuff came down about the

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler remarks and the comment about oh, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what was said, but oh, he wants generals like

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler and so Leland, you know. On News Nation, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the anglers said, hey, Brian, like, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>start asking people about this. I'm curious what they think.

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<v Speaker 2>And most people just were kind of like, well, did

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<v Speaker 2>he really say it that way? I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>I really believe the context. I don't think you really

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that way. But if you turn on the news there,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody thinks he's Hitler, you know, right.

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<v Speaker 1>In Michigan. Michigan's another key state on the economy. The

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<v Speaker 1>his name is Fane or something like that, endorsing completely

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris. On the other hand, the rank and file

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<v Speaker 1>together in Mexico. They're not going to be put together

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan, and so the rank and file feel differently

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<v Speaker 1>than the leadership with the team shirts, et cetera. Did

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<v Speaker 1>the placement of the so called paroles from Cuba and

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<v Speaker 1>on the road again, about the the serious influx of

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<v Speaker 2>That was a factor. The border came up again and

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<v Speaker 2>again and again. It was interesting that it is with

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<v Speaker 2>Latinos a lot who are mad to see it happening,

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<v Speaker 2>where I think some people think they be the ones like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I and granted we did here. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the rhetoric that they're all criminals and that makes

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<v Speaker 2>them feel bad, but they also don't think that people

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<v Speaker 2>should just be able to walk in. But it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about the auto workers and the unions. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the auto workers were mad, Like you watch

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<v Speaker 2>workers are Democrats. They don't like take a vote when

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<v Speaker 2>they decide to endorse Harris, like there was like a

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<v Speaker 2>Do that doesn't happen, So a lot of the workers

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<v Speaker 2>feel like underrepresented that. But then you know, on the

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<v Speaker 2>supporter auto workers, but there were some that said, look,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these people felt like they wouldn't have jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>which was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And lastly, the teamsters, they had to vote of the

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<v Speaker 1>rank and file, it was like sixty percent teamsters for Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>but the leadership said, wow, that's not enough. Wow, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a division here. We're not going to endorse Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>but the truckers do. I thought sixty percent was a

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<v Speaker 1>low number. Lastly, in Nevada, which is a key state.

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona by a little bit more than Nevada, just badly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would have thought in the culinary unions, which

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<v Speaker 1>has thousands of members, they vote in lockstep. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have a sense this time they're not going to vote

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Again, I think it goes back to similar with

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<v Speaker 2>that they you know, I think people are over that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they it's it's not I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>offended by it. You know, they get offended that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the Latinos we spoke to like Trump

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<v Speaker 2>the voter registrations ahead of the election, there were a

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<v Speaker 2>lots switching over to the Republican Party. So it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be interesting to see what happens in Nevada. We

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<v Speaker 2>went through Utah, which was beautiful after we uh, after

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've been to Zion. That was

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<v Speaker 2>all I mean, that's that's a red state. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was just interesting to drive through. And then we ended

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<v Speaker 2>in California, which everybody thinks California, you know, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a big bluestate wise. It interesting politically, but there

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<v Speaker 2>were some interesting political storylines there too. Bill. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've they've switched for House seats read since twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>They're one of the reasons that that the House is

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<v Speaker 2>read them in New York and the Asian community there

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<v Speaker 2>is switching over to the Republican already like crazy, which

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<v Speaker 2>no one really focuses on. We did a story on that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're they're transferring over in droves, upset about crime.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we were in San Francisco. It's it's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening there, Bill, in such a beautiful city.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's almost destroyed. In fact, aren't downtown businesses closed?

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<v Speaker 1>Office buildings are empty. Fishermen's Wharf doesn't exist anymore. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a hollywooing out of that city. Is that fair to say?

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<v Speaker 2>what you always hear about Chicago. You go there and

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<v Speaker 2>it is still a beautiful city, and I was. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been there the last couple of days. I think some

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<v Speaker 2>of it gets a little overhyped. It was Honestly, in

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<v Speaker 2>some areas it wasn't as bad as I expected. But

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<v Speaker 2>in other areas, yes, there's an open air drug market.

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<v Speaker 2>The weirdest thing. Bill my photographer were crossing the street

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<v Speaker 2>and we accidentally jay walked, and there was police officers

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<v Speaker 2>and that's okay, you know, but like you get taught.

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<v Speaker 2>It just it just hit me in that moment, like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>we just got a talking to for jay walking and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy's smoking mess. And then there was this other

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<v Speaker 2>thing that kind of hit me, Like there's cars, the

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<v Speaker 2>cars that are parked on the street, they have little

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<v Speaker 2>signs in the window that they've printed out on their computer,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing valuable inside, and they hang the sign on each

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do so that no one breaks in

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<v Speaker 2>or people will leave their windows open. I just like

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's the way things are. And Cincinnati, we've had

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<v Speaker 1>so many car break ins. I've seen many signs hung

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<v Speaker 1>in windows, no valuables, and I tell people, don't lock

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<v Speaker 1>your doors, leave nothing of value inside. We've had hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of break ins of car windows looking for guns and

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<v Speaker 1>money and whatever. And the best thing to do is

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<v Speaker 1>do not lock the doors and leave nothing of value

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<v Speaker 1>in which case that's your best chance of not having

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand dollars bill for a car window. It's everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in America today. Well, once again Brian, then you've been fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue with more.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are better than you think. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a civil war. The Earth's not going to quit

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<v Speaker 1>spinning on his axis. If Kamala Harris's wins, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be part of the world's going to be disrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all going to look like San Francisco in the wharf.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW