1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans. Welcome to my kitchen. 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,679 I am in a new location today, adjacent to the 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,839 closet office I usually use, so thank you for hanging out. 4 00:00:22,879 --> 00:00:27,480 I'm Chuck Buckler, joined by Adam Osland. William Updyke is 5 00:00:27,559 --> 00:00:33,000 unavoidably detained. Adam, did you see we did an episode 6 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:37,679 recently where you were unavoidably detained? And will was like, oh, 7 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:40,520 I've never I was like, oh, yeah, Adam's unavoidably detained 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,200 and Will was like, oh, I've never heard that. I 9 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,399 like that and it was like, that's because you're always gone. 10 00:00:46,679 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: You're the one. 11 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,359 Speaker 1: You are the one unavoidably detained. 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Oh, that's pretty hilarious. 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: This is the twenty first episode of the fourth season 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,560 of Clips and Dip. Thank you for hanging out with us. 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,439 If you're watching, Thank you. If you're listening and you 16 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:01,640 want to watch, you and find us at YouTube dot com, 17 00:01:01,759 --> 00:01:05,519 slash at Clippers podcast. Check out the paper Bowl. The 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,760 vibes were very high for the paper bowl. 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,879 Speaker 2: Un money, yeah, get us some more clicks. Damn it 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,920 because Robert Flohm didn't eat that paper for nothing. That 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,719 should be over one hundred thousand by now. 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,599 Speaker 1: It was amazing, and he did eat the paper. The 23 00:01:18,719 --> 00:01:21,840 idea that he didn't eat the paper. 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,799 Speaker 2: Well, that's why I kept asking, could he just like 25 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:26,120 drop it like this so everybody can make sure they 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,640 could see and everybody bears witness. But the first one 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,400 is obvious. He is regripping at it. Yeah, we got 28 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:34,799 the good sound effect in there. 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. Shout out to Robert Flahm. Shout out to Clipper 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,799 social media, everybody who is down with that. Clippers are 31 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:43,519 playing the Nuggets. We're going to talk about there's some 32 00:01:43,519 --> 00:01:47,920 more trade stuff and an l Frank extension that probably 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,159 happened that the team just hasn't announced yet, But Adam, 34 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:57,359 I want to get right into it. The Nuggets are 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,040 going to be without Jokic, Aaron Gordon and probably Christian Brown. 36 00:02:02,959 --> 00:02:04,719 Speaker 2: Tomorrow and Cameron Johnson. 37 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: And Cameron Johnson. 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: It's four starters, dude, But they have been missing four 39 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,560 starters for a while. They still were winning because Peyton 40 00:02:14,599 --> 00:02:16,439 Watson all of a sudden became one of the best 41 00:02:16,479 --> 00:02:18,199 players in the league and now the Lakers are going 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,800 to try trade for him. Hashtag you know you're doing 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,439 good when you get the hashtag future Laker out Who 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,439 the photoshop. 45 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,599 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's averaging. Jokic went down New Year's 46 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:34,240 Eve basically, and since then, Peyton Watson's at a pretty 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,960 efficient twenty two points per game. Is he the main 48 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:41,000 focus tomorrow for the Clippers? 49 00:02:41,039 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: Like it depends if Jamal Murray plays because he's playing tonight. 50 00:02:46,039 --> 00:02:47,719 Does he plan on the back to back because he 51 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,280 was questionable or probable to come in tonight? So yeah, 52 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,120 it could be the reserves, a lot of reserves, definitely 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,680 for the Denver Nuggets. But Clippers can't overlook them because 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,960 those guys still play well together, they have a culture 55 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,439 there and they're always tough in Denver. Of course. 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: Yes. The other factor that makes this a must win 57 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,400 to me is the fact that they are playing as 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,240 we're recording this, so the Clippers will have the rest advantage. 59 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:18,199 This is the second time we played the Nuggets. Last 60 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,000 time did not go well. Yok had fifty five. 61 00:03:22,039 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: What happened? 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,599 Speaker 1: We didn't have. 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,439 Speaker 2: Kawhi he set that into a Dome scoring record until 64 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Kawhi mashit. 65 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,159 Speaker 1: It's Kawhi's record. We don't acknowledge. We don't acknowledge the 66 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:41,520 other one. What is like, what's the out we've been 67 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:44,400 The Clippers have been killing it. Obviously, go back to 68 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,240 win Yokic went out the clip. It's been very good 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,719 for the Clippers. Is there an outlier you're worried about 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,360 from the clips good play that might not show up 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,960 against the Nuggets. 72 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: Um, well, they are five and three in games where 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,639 they have twenty turnovers or more, which doesn't seem sustainable, 74 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,120 and so it tells you they've had eight games where 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,719 they've had twenty turnovers or more. It's funny because overall 76 00:04:12,759 --> 00:04:14,599 the turnovers have been down the last month and a 77 00:04:14,639 --> 00:04:17,000 half with this turnaround, but then they have these weird 78 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,959 spike games here and there, and yet they still are 79 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,560 winning the majority of those games. So I think it's 80 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,680 still about the defense. Overall, the defense shows up, it 81 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,600 gives you a larger margin for error in other areas. 82 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:33,879 But the Clippers, again, they have outshot their opponent in 83 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,120 I think fifteen of the sixteen wins in the last 84 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:41,759 nineteen games from three. So that's kind of a big deal. 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,600 When you win every game that you outshoot them from 86 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,000 three almost and. 87 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:50,639 Speaker 1: You win the game where you shoot what seventeen percent 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,199 from three? 89 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: What was it five of twenty nine or twenty eight 90 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:56,279 or twenty six the Wizards game. 91 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, we also got to win there. 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only one I think that they won 93 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:06,040 where they didn't out shoot their opponent from three in 94 00:05:06,079 --> 00:05:07,160 the sixteen of nineteen. 95 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna be weird. So, yes, they have four starters out. 96 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:14,160 It's kind of hard to look at their like stat profile. 97 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:18,439 They haven't been playing good defense. The Nuggets is who 98 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,120 I'm talking about here for the listener. Their defense has 99 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,519 been bottom eight since Jokic went out and with everyone 100 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,360 else Gordon was out or Gordon's out. He guarded Collins 101 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:33,519 for the most part the last time out and did 102 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,040 a pretty good job on John. Collins larger than Colin, 103 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,879 so he pushed him around a bit. But that's not 104 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,240 gonna be there. Like, who is their best defensive player now? 105 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,879 I guess with all of these guys out, like, the 106 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:50,199 Clippers have a lot of chances if they're focused for 107 00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:53,319 Harden and Kawida. I'm not gonna say have an easier 108 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:55,720 or short night or anything like that, but the opportunities 109 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:58,639 will be there early for the Clippers. 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, start fast, you know, kind of assume you're dominance 111 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,399 early on show that you're cut above this banged up 112 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:13,399 Denver Nuggets team and don't give them life early, which 113 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,879 we did see a little bit of the last time 114 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,279 out by the Clippers. They were down by eleven in 115 00:06:19,319 --> 00:06:23,639 the first quarter. Don't let that happen again. But also 116 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,040 respect to your pulament because they still have good players 117 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,399 on this team, and they've been getting by without four 118 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:31,360 of their five starters for a while this season. Like 119 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,800 I think Jalen Picketts, he's been good for them. Zeke 120 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:40,360 Naji is one of those guys that people talked about 121 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,879 for years with the Denver Nuggets that he could be 122 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:46,240 kind of a swing guy. Same with Julian Strather. If 123 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,279 they really step up, this team's going to be even 124 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:52,120 tougher to beat. But tim Ardaway Junior is a flamethrower 125 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,240 if he gets it going early on. He's one of 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,480 those guys that can be one shot hot, and he 127 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,079 struggled against Milwaukee. And they're one on two, one hundred 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,240 win most recently until the night's game against Brooklyn going 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,480 five or fourteen, So we'll see, uh if those numbers change. 130 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,839 But like they're still talented, they're still well coached, and 131 00:07:10,879 --> 00:07:13,480 they're still at home. So even the second half a 132 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,680 back to back. You just cannot look past him. 133 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:21,839 Speaker 1: And they have noted Clipper killer Jonas Valentunis on their team, so. 134 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: We need he's back at least right. 135 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:26,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing a night versus the nets. We need 136 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,560 to account for the fact that he might hit six threes. 137 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, that's somebody that you know, you may want 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,040 to close out on on the three point line because 139 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,199 he sees the Clippers and he feels comfortable. Although when 140 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,319 he did the seven to three game against the Clippers 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,240 his career high, that was against a different Clippers uniform, 142 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:48,720 you know, not as beautiful as the ones they wear today. 143 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:51,959 So maybe he doesn't see the Clippers and feels as 144 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,160 confident as he used to. 145 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's too Yeah, he's too taken aback from the 146 00:07:57,879 --> 00:07:59,879 beauty of the of the new jerseys. 147 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: I think lost in the sauce. 148 00:08:02,079 --> 00:08:03,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're onto something there. 149 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: That's why they changed the jerseys. Actually, just for that reason. 150 00:08:08,199 --> 00:08:09,839 Speaker 1: We got we got to put a stop to we're 151 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:14,279 being terrorized by this guy. Is he Lithuanian or is 152 00:08:14,319 --> 00:08:20,319 he yes? Yeah, this Lithuanian. Yeah, this one is it? 153 00:08:20,759 --> 00:08:24,199 Trap game vibes? Wait, are the Clippers now good enough 154 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,879 to be the victim of a trap game. I guess 155 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,040 we have we gotten to that. We've kind of talked 156 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,839 about that the last week and a half, but are 157 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:32,360 we good enough? 158 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:38,039 Speaker 2: I think they are the Jazz game again. They were 159 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,320 down eleven in the first quarter, the Jazz got the 160 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:43,559 jump on them, but honestly, the Clippers were just missing 161 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:45,759 a ton of easy shots. They were two of twelve 162 00:08:45,799 --> 00:08:48,159 in the first quarter and the rest of the way 163 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,039 I think they shot forty seven from three after that, 164 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,080 and they got the exact same looks and they just 165 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,080 stuck with it. So there wasn't anything glaring in the 166 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,480 first quarter where it was just low energy or a 167 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,679 bunch of turnovers or they were being out rebound or 168 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,799 anything like that. They just missed the same shots that 169 00:09:02,799 --> 00:09:05,240 they were making later. So I don't even think that 170 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:08,120 was a situation where they overlook the Jazz and started 171 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,159 slow because of the opponent or looking past them, and 172 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:13,440 it was a traff game like that. I do have 173 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,799 confidence in this team locking in and because it's Denver 174 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,320 still in name, even without so many guys missing, right, 175 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:22,840 they should probably get up for this opponent regardless. 176 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they have to write. If you look 177 00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:29,519 at kind of the standings too, Clippers are one win 178 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,960 and one lost back from the Blazers, three and a 179 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,200 half games back from the Warriors, who might trade for you, honest, 180 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,120 so we don't really know what's gonna happen there, and 181 00:09:39,159 --> 00:09:40,759 then five and a half games back from the seven 182 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:43,080 seed Suns, who we do play on Sunday. So like, 183 00:09:43,759 --> 00:09:46,639 this is a really huge game for the standings. This 184 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,679 is one that they have to get to, Like, you 185 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,759 can't drop these games if you're trying to be the 186 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:56,919 first team to ever be over five hundred after starting 187 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,919 as poorly as they did. 188 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, if you're still under five hundred, there should 189 00:10:02,279 --> 00:10:05,080 be no traff game. Just show them they got before 190 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:08,080 the game starts. They're still twenty two and twenty four 191 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,559 as good as we have been. Guys, hey a great kid. 192 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,759 Don't get cockys. Han Solo told Luke Skywalker. 193 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I was thinking about that today. I 194 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:18,960 was kind of like I was looking at the guys 195 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,799 who are I was like, I'm feeling pretty good about this, 196 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:23,480 and then I felt like a like light bulb, be 197 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:29,600 like why actually, like they're twenty two and four yeah, 198 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,279 you fool. Yeah, I just hope they take it seriously. 199 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,200 I think they will because we haven't seen a lot 200 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,000 of unseerious play from them. But I'm hypher whatever John 201 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,879 Collins is going to do, because he isn't going to 202 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:47,240 be bodied up by Aaron Gordon. Like Chris Dunn was 203 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,759 a and I mean this in the nicest way possible, 204 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,519 a goddamn lunatic on defense. Last game that was one 205 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,000 of the like. 206 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: Best sensive player of the year type of game. 207 00:10:58,879 --> 00:11:02,159 Speaker 1: God, like was it three steals and scores in the 208 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,200 third quarter by itself and just like. 209 00:11:04,799 --> 00:11:07,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, he like generated nine points all on his own, 210 00:11:09,039 --> 00:11:11,440 wiping scores and he was. 211 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: He on Murray for the most part the last time 212 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,120 we played. Not that it mattered because yeah, five, but 213 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,960 I have to imagine he'll be on him again. 214 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the head of the snake. That's what 215 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,600 Chris Dunn does now against Utah. I think there's even 216 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,919 something extra there because obviously he was a member of 217 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,919 the Jazz and as Brian Seman would say, going up 218 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:36,600 against your former employers just a little bit different out there, 219 00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:40,720 but going up against Denver without so many guys but 220 00:11:40,799 --> 00:11:44,200 still having Jamal Murray should also get the competitive juices 221 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,120 going since they beat you in the first round in 222 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:49,080 a series that was very winnable, and you can even 223 00:11:49,159 --> 00:11:51,799 go back further than that. Obviously, Chris Dunn wasn't involved 224 00:11:51,799 --> 00:11:54,919 in twenty twenty, but there's a history between these two teams. 225 00:11:55,799 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I always another we got kind of already 226 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,759 talked about him, but I feel like Zoo gets up 227 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:05,399 for this Valance Unis matchup. There's that that Euro angst 228 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,919 that those two have against each other in a healthy 229 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:13,559 competitive way. I mean, and Zoo has been good lately, 230 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,159 but kind of seeing another breakout whatever you know, you 231 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,559 want to call it, that would go a long way 232 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,559 if the Clippers can't figure anything else on defense or 233 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,200 on offense. And you know, it's kind of weird to 234 00:12:25,279 --> 00:12:28,720 start being able to use the security blanket for Zoo. 235 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,240 If he has, it would be great. 236 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: So before the game on Sunday against Brooklyn, coach lou 237 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,399 let the cat out of the bag a little bit 238 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:41,279 so to speak with just how banged up maybe a 239 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:45,480 visa Zubots has been. He was talking about his ailments 240 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:47,759 and how he's a guy that just never wants to 241 00:12:47,759 --> 00:12:50,039 come off the floor. He came back early from the 242 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,320 ankle injury that was a three week timeline. He came 243 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,559 back in two again, Yeah, and then missed the game 244 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,399 and then came back. I think that has to be 245 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,519 part of the context here with the Beata zoobots and 246 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,879 his up and down play. He's I think, really been 247 00:13:06,879 --> 00:13:09,679 more banged up than anybody has let on, including himself, 248 00:13:09,799 --> 00:13:11,600 just because he's an iron man that he's used to 249 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,480 always playing and he wants to play through everything. And 250 00:13:14,519 --> 00:13:16,759 I don't think it's to the team's detriment or anything 251 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:19,759 like that. He still has been okay, he still has 252 00:13:19,759 --> 00:13:22,480 been a plus out there. It's just can he get 253 00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:26,720 back to last year's level consistently. I think that is 254 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:29,320 partially due to how teams are playing him this season, 255 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:31,759 partially because of the way the Clippers started the year off, 256 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,120 and now also because he's just been banged up for 257 00:13:34,159 --> 00:13:35,159 like a month at least. 258 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:42,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he man, and he takes a lot of hits, right, 259 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,399 like with a lack of whistles. Yeah, So yeah, a 260 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,440 big game from him would be nice. But yeah, it 261 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:54,559 just feels it's gonna be weird. I don't want people 262 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,559 to freak out because it's just again, it's hard to 263 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,480 play an opponent that has this many people out because 264 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,320 you're just like, what are you guys going to do? 265 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, you may get a taste of your own medicine. 266 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:06,720 When the Clippers have so many guys out, They've had 267 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,240 some really incredible and performances. And the unknown factor with 268 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,360 this Denver team and young guys playing for minutes in 269 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,919 their house, it's scary. 270 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: And it is a yeah. I don't know if people 271 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:23,039 forget about the advantage of being and feet above sea 272 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,879 level for a professional team, but it is a real thing. 273 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,240 It does make a difference. And this Clippers team is older, 274 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,480 so I think you know we mentioned John Collins. There's 275 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:36,399 a game where you hugely miss Derek Jones Junior. I 276 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,039 mean every game you do, but when it comes to 277 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 needing guys to maybe run a little bit, you really 278 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:45,600 miss him. Here too, who's your player of the game pick? 279 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:49,919 We got to pick for Will too. 280 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: So who is Kawhi off the board? 281 00:14:53,519 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: James questionable? Which when is that ever going to stop? 282 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,919 Speaker 2: As long as he keeps playing through it, I'm good. 283 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,639 There were two days off and I saw a picture 284 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:05,960 of him today practice, so I expect him to go. 285 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,039 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, also same here. 286 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,919 Speaker 2: I think it's just how does he feel when he 287 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,200 wakes up. The reason we keep him questionable is because 288 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,879 he could wake up the next day and not feel 289 00:15:14,919 --> 00:15:17,399 great after practice. So it's just responsible. 290 00:15:18,919 --> 00:15:24,759 Speaker 1: It's responsible, guys. Yeah, Well, Kawhi's not on the table, 291 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Harden's not on the table, and I don't think Zoo's 292 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:28,679 on the table. 293 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,799 Speaker 2: All right, I might give me then. 294 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: Went off against him last time. 295 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,759 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna go with Kobe Sanders. Okay, I like 296 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,960 Kobe Sanders in this game. When's the last time he 297 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:54,120 had like fourteen or more in a ball game? Was 298 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:56,919 it the Warriors game? Has it been since he had 299 00:15:56,919 --> 00:15:59,399 that twenty point game against them? 300 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: Damn he? 301 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, he's had thirteen, he's had eleven, He's 302 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,559 had eleven. Give me fourteen plus tomorrow Kobe Sanders in 303 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:11,919 this game, because I. 304 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Was gonna almost go Jordan Miller because he had what 305 00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:18,399 twenty one last time out against the Nuggets, which I 306 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,080 didn't look at the box score. I'm not sure how 307 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,120 many of those came once the white flag was out, 308 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:24,360 but he had a good game, so he could even 309 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,559 do something I was I've been talking about a bunch. 310 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:31,360 I was gonna go John Collins because too e isy 311 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,320 very he might be on the list at this point. 312 00:16:34,919 --> 00:16:39,639 Speaker 2: He probably should be sixty percent for three for over 313 00:16:39,679 --> 00:16:47,440 a month and we lost Chuck there. He's back Chuck 314 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:53,519 in and out this player to watch John Collins. We 315 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,799 think he's leaving us in suspense here. I am going 316 00:16:56,879 --> 00:17:00,320 to go with Kobe Sanders, though, just because I want 317 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,160 to look smart. Kobe Sanders is shooting. To be fair 318 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,799 to Kobe Sanders, well, the scoring isn't up that much 319 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,519 this past month. He's still shooting forty percent from the outside. 320 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:12,720 He's still at forty five percent from the field. The 321 00:17:12,759 --> 00:17:15,720 efficiency has been there, it's just not on volume. He's 322 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:18,559 only attempting seven shots per game in the month of January. 323 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,000 What I like about Kobe and what he's been able 324 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:23,640 to do is, regardless of how much he's scoring out there, 325 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,079 and I asked coach Lou about this, his defense has 326 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,599 consistently been strong for this team. He has taken up 327 00:17:30,599 --> 00:17:33,319 the challenge of when Chris Dunn is not out there. 328 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,000 When he's out there in the second unit, Kobe Sanders 329 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,160 is often guarding the opposition's best players, so he'll probably 330 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,480 gets a minutes against Jamal Murray. Chuck, I kind of 331 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,000 see you jumping in out a little bit talk to me. 332 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,960 Maybe not seen, but not heard. So this Clippers team 333 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,720 in Denver, which can be a hellish place obviously, can 334 00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:00,799 be a house of horse for the Clippers. Regardless of 335 00:18:00,799 --> 00:18:03,720 who is available. They may have to rely on their 336 00:18:03,759 --> 00:18:07,960 youth because the youth they don't feel the altitude as much. 337 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,359 I want to believe that's true. They got those young 338 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,400 lungs as well. Here we saw what happened in Game 339 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,319 one of the playoffs last year. Even after the Clippers 340 00:18:19,319 --> 00:18:23,640 had that week off against Denver, they still look like 341 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,559 they were gassed by the end of that game, getting 342 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,519 use to the vile high air, and that was unfortunate 343 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:32,319 because they probably should have won that game. And then 344 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,400 Kawhi came back in at thirty nine in Game two 345 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,880 after they got acclimated to the weather. But this is 346 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,880 going to be one of those games where, yes, it 347 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,079 feels like a must win because the opportunity is there. 348 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,920 When you're sixty to three, expectations start to creep in. 349 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,160 When you're playing the best basketball in the league and 350 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,880 you got a team on a back to back. Granted 351 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,839 they're at home, but they're missing for their five starters 352 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,599 out there. Who knows if even Jamal Murray plays in 353 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,599 this one. You have to keep this ongoing. The Clippers 354 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,440 truly do. And Chuck, are you back? I see you, 355 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:13,640 you're the thinking man. You're frozen here. But jokis, Oh 356 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,960 we got you. I think we got you. I hear you, Chuck. Now, 357 00:19:18,759 --> 00:19:22,880 what we'll do here is we'll take a quick time out. 358 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:27,720 It is Clips and Dip. I'm out a Mosland. Careful 359 00:19:28,559 --> 00:19:32,279 turn down. Your audio commercials could get very loud in 360 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:38,839 three two one Welcome back in. It is season four, 361 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:44,480 episode twenty one of Clips and Dip. As Chuck desperately 362 00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:49,559 tries to jump back in here on the live well, 363 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,920 if you're watching this, thank god we didn't go live here. 364 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,240 Maybe we'll chop some of this out, but Clippers in 365 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:58,440 Denver tomorrow night. But we have some other news for you, 366 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:04,200 as Chuck, it looks to be looks to be moving. Yeah, 367 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:04,920 I hate this. 368 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:08,519 Speaker 1: I genuinely I am so sorry to everyone who listens 369 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:10,440 to the show or watches the show. This has been 370 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,359 a living hell. I get new Internet tomorrow. I'm so 371 00:20:13,599 --> 00:20:16,559 upset and so stressed out. I'm not usually this upset 372 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:21,079 of a person. I can't fucking stand this. And I 373 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,440 apologize to people who listen and watch, because I'm going 374 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:26,759 to punch a hole through JR. Spectrum for starting this 375 00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:27,680 bullshit company. 376 00:20:28,519 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: Let's get some belated airing a grievances. I'm going at 377 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,039 the language. 378 00:20:35,319 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: I heard what you were saying about relying on the youth, 379 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,160 which I would love. What if we were able to 380 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,920 do that. I love that the Clippers are able to 381 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,279 kind of clause I do that now. 382 00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:46,759 Speaker 2: I did take a quick time out, Chuck, and we're 383 00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:48,880 just about to start segment two. But I haven't got 384 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,839 into anything yet. You want to take the lead on 385 00:20:51,839 --> 00:20:53,039 our second subject here? 386 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: Yes, I never get to do the lead in this 387 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,720 is great. Where were we? Yes? So there was trade 388 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,240 stuff that came out Lawrence Frank. Let's start with the 389 00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:10,640 Lawrence Frank thing. Did I believe they signed an extension? 390 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,279 It was reported by Sam Amock and Joe Varden, who 391 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:20,240 were two people who report accurate things. Yes, for the 392 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,000 most part. 393 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:24,079 Speaker 2: Like for the Kendrick Perkins, although he always has a 394 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,960 lot to say about him or he and Boogie cousins 395 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,880 I think have gone off on Lawrence Frank before. 396 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it was Lawrence Frank's falt at boogie was 397 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,200 bad for the Clippers. How are we feeling? Do we 398 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:44,279 think they think it's four years? No contract, deals were disclosed, 399 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,319 nothing from the team. 400 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: Yet we had that report six weeks ago or two 401 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:55,799 months ago that people freaked out about at the time 402 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,000 because the Clippers were so bad when they were six 403 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:00,279 and twenty one. Oh, I can't believe this. How are 404 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:02,720 they going to bring back Laurence Frank? And now we 405 00:22:02,799 --> 00:22:05,200 get dish report and everybody's like, hey, you know good 406 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,039 with it? Looks good to me. What a difference six 407 00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:11,960 weeks can make in a sixteen and three run by 408 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,039 this Clippers team. I think you got to put things 409 00:22:16,079 --> 00:22:20,200 in perspective and look at what's in Laurence Frank's control 410 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,519 and what's outside of it. If Kawhi doesn't tear the 411 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:26,039 ACL in twenty twenty one, they probably win the ring 412 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,000 and then he has a lifetime contract with the Clippers 413 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,960 because I would have gotten them their first championship. And 414 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,200 I think overall, when you look at everybody's resume in 415 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:40,119 the NBA in this position, Lawrence Frank has done a 416 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,480 very good job with the Clippers, keeping them competitive even 417 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:48,440 with all the injuries going on, and even with the 418 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,079 most glaring issue that people bring up all the time 419 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,839 being drafting well, Kobe Sanders, Jordan Miller, Yani Kayam Christie, 420 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,480 everybody loves these guys right now and even you know, 421 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:01,640 Musa the it looked to be a good draft pick. 422 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,400 You just couldn't crack the rotation with a team that 423 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:04,200 was trying to win. 424 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: Now right to go to the Hornets. 425 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you accept that and the fact that most 426 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,559 guys wash out of the league within three years that 427 00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:15,240 are late first round draft picks and certainly second round 428 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,200 draft picks, that's where you have to acknowledge he's done 429 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,440 a more than adequate job and there's great stability with 430 00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:24,400 this team because of it. And I like the pairing 431 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,000 of him and coach lou And. 432 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: The other part too, is it's a borderline clean slate 433 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,799 in a year and a half for the roster, Like 434 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:37,319 do you if you're the organization, Balmer wasn't going to 435 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:40,400 be like, oh, we have these open books, let's bring 436 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,880 in a whole new guy to not, you know, say 437 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,160 what you know I have some issues maybe don't sign 438 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,200 as many older players, but that also could be my 439 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,319 Miami Dolphins GM PTSD. 440 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: It's also like tell me all the young players that 441 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,599 are that good and that cheap then, like it's if 442 00:23:57,599 --> 00:23:58,599 it was only that easy. 443 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people love the signings. Before the season started, everyone. 444 00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:04,559 Speaker 2: All loved it. And now I was beloving him again. 445 00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:11,519 Brook I heard was better than you Zubots for two weeks, right, 446 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:11,880 he was. 447 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: Killing the starters in practice with CP three. 448 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: He went from washed to better than Zubots in two weeks. 449 00:24:18,079 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Uh but yeah, like they're just not gonna. 450 00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 2: John Collins, Hey, that was the worst trade ever for 451 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,119 Norman Powell. Oh wait, now it looks great again. 452 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,599 Speaker 1: So yes, it makes me so happy that John Collins 453 00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:33,160 the other day was like I want to be here, 454 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:36,759 Like I hope I can sign an extension here because 455 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:38,920 he does genuinely seem to enjoy playing for the team 456 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,119 and he's crushing it. 457 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: So lovette. Oh yeah, he is a breath of fresh air. 458 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,279 I think his energy in that locker room and his 459 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,880 vibe has been awesome, And just how well spoken and 460 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,000 gracious he is with the media is really cool. 461 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: And if you've noticed him and Zoo have gotten better 462 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,319 at playing near the same area around the room. 463 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: It's weird because Zoo came back and yet John Collins 464 00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:05,400 stills shooting so well from the outside. It's almost like 465 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,359 that spacing thing, UH was a myth. 466 00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, I know people are gonna be 467 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,400 upset when it's officially announced or whatever, but of things 468 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,400 to be I don't know, man, It's like, what what 469 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,640 do you want him to doing? 470 00:25:19,839 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: Are you getting this better? Everybody's like everybody's like Bob Myers, 471 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,559 Bob Myers, Like I like Bob Myers. But you could 472 00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:32,839 talk to Golden State Warriors fans about how many picks 473 00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:36,000 that they missed on the two timeline UH plan that 474 00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:40,799 they had. Everybody is the most critical of their own guy, 475 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,119 and they think everybody else's GM or everybody else's head 476 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,920 coach is better. But like Heat fans, they they will 477 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,599 critique Eric Spolster, Golden State fans, they will critique Bob 478 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,240 Myers and and Steve Kerr, and everybody is toughest on 479 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:58,079 their own guy. But to your point, I like what 480 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,400 you were saying there, Chuck, He's the one that came 481 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,359 up with this vision of being able to reload in 482 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240 twenty twenty seven, and you're gonna divert from that path 483 00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:08,160 when we're a year less than a year and a 484 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,279 half away from that now. 485 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: I also think too, if you're not a fan of 486 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:15,240 Lawrence Frank and you do want him to be gone 487 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,039 or whatever, you could look at twenty twenty seven as 488 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,440 all right, put up a shut up now because organizationally, right, 489 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,559 they're gonna see how the plan goes, see how twenty 490 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,160 twenty seven works. If it doesn't work from twenty twenty 491 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:35,680 seven to twenty thirty two years that sound fake, then 492 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,480 I think you'll possibly see a change, you know what 493 00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:42,720 I'm saying, Like that's fully it. He won't have the 494 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:45,880 two you know, he won't be not hamstrung. I've just 495 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,880 been that kind of contractually behind two stars like Kawhi 496 00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:53,799 some combination of Kawhi Harden and Paul George like salary wise, 497 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,440 like with the Aprons, It's gonna be a whole new 498 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,960 way to build the team. And the Clippers already showed 499 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,000 because they had to how to maneuver underneath these Apron rules, 500 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,279 right Like they got criticized for letting Paul George walk which. 501 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:09,279 Speaker 2: How's that look? Now? 502 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: How's that look now? Think if we had Paul George 503 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,079 on this team. 504 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: Quick they pivoted, They had a plan immediately, Chris Dunn, 505 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,240 Nico Back, bring in dj DJ I think was the 506 00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,519 first one. John Collins, Yeah, And then they ended up 507 00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,720 getting John Collins eventually, who everybody wanted. And then they said, oh, 508 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,200 why do we give up Norm Powell for him? And 509 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,880 now they're thanking their lucky stars that they did do 510 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,480 that trade. I think this season is a lesson in 511 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:39,160 and it's a lesson for everyone. 512 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: You know. 513 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,279 Speaker 2: I didn't think they were going to go sixteen and 514 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,519 three the next night games, but fans live in the 515 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,319 moment so much, and you have to go pick big 516 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,920 picture view and have a little bit of patience and 517 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,240 not just overreact to every loss in every win because 518 00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:02,079 things can change very quickly. And Lawrence Frank said, you know, 519 00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:05,240 if if I'm wrong he put his name on this 520 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,920 and this team isn't able to turn it around, that 521 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:11,079 I will make moves aggressively. Well it looks like he 522 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,319 was right, because they turned it around. So the moves 523 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,400 that he made ultimately look pretty damn good. Now, even 524 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,519 though with all the disruptions with injuries going on early, 525 00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:24,359 with DJ and Bradley Beal out for the season, the 526 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,200 CP three stuff, with Kawhi missing ten straight games, They 527 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,880 had a lot thrown at them early. Is that themes 528 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,640 for starting six and twenty one? No, but it's still 529 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,359 when people keep asking how the Clippers have done this? 530 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,519 That's why part of the reason, at least a huge 531 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,400 part of the reason, all those factors why they start 532 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,599 off so poorly. And now you're seeing more of the 533 00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,880 team that we expected to start off this year. 534 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,599 Speaker 1: Exactly, and now we've shifted to like Tylou pregame the 535 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880 other day said it was maybe it was pregame or 536 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,039 postgame said like, it's not going to be a very 537 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:58,680 eventful trade deadline. Like he was like, I don't think 538 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,799 we're going to see many big changes, And I think 539 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:04,759 Tylu is actually a good barometer for that because we've 540 00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:08,119 seen what it's like when Tylu wants roster changes right 541 00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:11,200 with Westbrook and stuff like that, like he will, he 542 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:15,279 will let the press know what he might want to 543 00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:18,000 happen with the roster. So for the fact that he 544 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:20,160 kind of is even like I think it's going to 545 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,720 be pretty chill, like it's not gonna be that sexy 546 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:27,000 of a deadline. We're gonna flip guys to make Jordan 547 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,960 Miller and Kobe Sanders full time Clippers, And it sounds 548 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,680 like if they can find a trade for Bogie, they're 549 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,400 looking for it. Brett Siegel kind of brought that up 550 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,119 that Bogden has now come up as the most likely 551 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,160 guy to be moved for the Clippers. 552 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,319 Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, a lot of the transactions are 553 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,400 inside the house or internally, like the calls coming from 554 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,079 inside the house, because of Kobe, because of Jordan Miller, 555 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,839 because Kawhi, you know, got back to an MVP level 556 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,240 a Vista Zoobas still has another level he can get 557 00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:59,960 back to, and then some they can get better just 558 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,000 internally right now, and then maybe they make a small 559 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,680 move on the Margins and they have the ability to 560 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,880 do that with Bogee's contract, like you mentioned, I think 561 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,519 that's probably the most realistic scenario. 562 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm also and I'm going to say this every episode 563 00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:18,559 until they get it figured out. Where is CP three going. 564 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:23,720 He's creeping into Isaiah thomas territory. 565 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume whatever deal they make somehow he's going 566 00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,880 to be in it, but who knows. 567 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,759 Speaker 1: And it's like, do you give him like, because obviously 568 00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:36,839 they want to get him to a place he wants 569 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,279 to go, but it takes two to tango. 570 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: You're gonna quote Mike Dunleavy Jr. What he said the 571 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,799 other day about. 572 00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm baffled by that. 573 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:52,559 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley said he should go to the Rockets. All 574 00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:54,440 he needs to do is bring it in to the 575 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,960 half court lines, like, well, I got news for you. Unfortunately, 576 00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:01,440 he was struggling with that earlier this season. I love, 577 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,319 but sometimes, especially with smaller guards, it can go quickly overnight. 578 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,640 And if he still looked as good as he did 579 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,480 last year in San Antonio, he probably already would have 580 00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:13,359 been moved by now. 581 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:18,559 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, man, did you hear this that the Celtics 582 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,039 offered a first round pick, a pick swap and Anthony 583 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,680 Simons for it beats the Zubots. 584 00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought we heard that like a month ago. 585 00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: Dude. It's just keeps coming up from the aggregators and 586 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,440 it's like, and I feel like it's one of the 587 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,839 few things where every single person who sees it is 588 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,079 kind of like, yeah, I get why they said no, 589 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:40,599 like like Clippers fans who hate Zubots aren't even like 590 00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:42,000 we should have done this trade. 591 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:49,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's funny. I was looking back yesterday with 592 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,599 the Jannis news coming out, uh, and I must have 593 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,480 done at least three episodes this past summer about Giannis, 594 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,519 and one of them I was talking about what you 595 00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,319 would have to give up, and I was mentioning, you know, 596 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,559 they're gonna want of beats the Zoo bots in this 597 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,720 most likely. And I was looking at the live comments 598 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,400 coming in looking back on that episode from five months ago, 599 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,720 and everybody just kept saying, Zoo stays, Zoo stays, No, 600 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,519 We're not giving up Zoo for Yannis. And I was 601 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,119 the one being like, guys, I think if you could 602 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,720 get Yannis, you're probably gonna have to give him up, 603 00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:22,400 and that's that would be okay. Uh. Now, I think 604 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,359 a lot more people would would probably say, yeah, we 605 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,480 have to give up Zoo, we give up Zoo for Yannis. 606 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,039 But just you know, we can't be prisoners of the 607 00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:33,839 moment here because people think, well, with the way Zoo 608 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,920 has been playing over the last couple of weeks, that's 609 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,559 how he's going to play the rest of his career 610 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,960 or something. We have a whole season of just how 611 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,640 we looked last year. We've had glimpses of that Zoo 612 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:46,759 this season. There are reasons, including injury concerns with him 613 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,759 this year, for why he isn't hasn't gotten back to that, 614 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:51,079 But we just had a game against the Lakers where 615 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,079 we had eighteen and nineteen and we had a game 616 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,519 where he destroyed the Houston Rockets front line. This year. 617 00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:58,160 We had a game where he destroyed Evan Mobley this season, 618 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,559 like that Zoo who is still in him from last season? 619 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:05,599 To me? So yes, if you get a godfather type 620 00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:08,119 of offer or if it involves getting honest, of course 621 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,359 you have to think about these things. But outside of that, 622 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,359 I think the Clippers are keeping Zoo and his contract 623 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,960 is one of the most valuable in the league. And 624 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,400 somebody came out with a metric or a formula. 625 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,079 Speaker 1: Cool is awesome. It's like so fun to play around with. Sorry, 626 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,720 let me pull that up actually, because we should give 627 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,880 that person credit. It's from Steph no at Twitter on 628 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,519 Twitter at ste p h n Oh. It built a 629 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160 contracts tool that projects what every player in the NBA 630 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,200 is worth versus what they're actually paid. Pretty cool to 631 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,000 mess around with. Zoo's projected values thirty six million. Brook 632 00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,759 Lopez's projected value is thirteen million. Justin Russo put up 633 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,279 the Chris Dunn one, which is just like unreal. 634 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: I actually cooked up Lars Frank. How about Lars Frank? 635 00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:57,359 Speaker 1: I cooked up a Yanis trade? Did you see my 636 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Yannest trade? 637 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: Now? What did you put in there? 638 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,119 Speaker 1: Let me show it to the If you're listening, you're 639 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,960 not going to be able to see this, but I'll 640 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:06,680 run it down for you because it's a pretty I 641 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,280 think it's a pretty good offer. So the Clippers would 642 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,920 get Yiannis Ante Takumpo and all they would have to 643 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:20,719 give up is Bogden, Derek Jones, Junior, Brook Lopez, Nick Patoon, 644 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,840 Christ and Bradley Beal, Chris Paul No picks. 645 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: It works in the trade machine, then it might work 646 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,559 in real life. 647 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: Call it up right, like, let's. 648 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: You're not even giving up bots here. 649 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: No, it's a perfect trade, dude, that's. 650 00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: What you know. He might want to play with brook 651 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,920 Lopez again, You're honest. So I don't know if he'd 652 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,519 like seeing Brooke having to go back to walk in 653 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,000 the outside of that, though, it's perfect. 654 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we can swap, we can swap Kobe Brown 655 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,360 for Brook Lopez. They're getting seven players for one guy. 656 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: How do you know? Do you know how many guys 657 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:04,199 this season uh both average more points per game and 658 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,000 rebounds per game beat Zoo in both of those categories, 659 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,519 So we're talking bigs obviously here. Oh well, nobody else 660 00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:16,360 is the guard I'm going to rebound him? 661 00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: Well, Russ, sorry, I'm gonna say four. 662 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: Okay, I think it's three. Maybe it's gone to four now, 663 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,760 But on my account, it was Jalen Duran because he 664 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,199 scores more points per game than Zoo but doesn't out 665 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,480 rebound him. So actually he's not on the list anymore. 666 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,840 So Carl Anthony Towns is one, sure, and I think 667 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,880 it's just him and Yolkish now because Jalen duran rebounding 668 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,159 dropped recently and beats Zoo Bots is a ten point 669 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,280 nine and Jalen durn is a ten point six. So 670 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,079 two guys that both average more points and rebounds than 671 00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:00,480 it beats the Zobots. Zoo is at uh ten point 672 00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:05,039 nine boards and fourteen point six points. He's kind of 673 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,239 even a season where he's where he's down, where he's 674 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,440 down from last year. He's still pretty pretty damn good. 675 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,920 And his reprotections still been pretty damn good. And I 676 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,079 know he misses some bunnies here and there. Oh well, 677 00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,480 look at the overall numbers and efficiency on the block 678 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:23,480 near the ram and points per possession. He's one of 679 00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:24,639 the top guys in the league. 680 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,679 Speaker 1: And he's still. 681 00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 2: He's he's one of the best post up guys in 682 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,599 the league. Still. People see him miss one layup and 683 00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:34,480 they think it happens every time, and they see him 684 00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,159 drop one pass and they think he drops every pass, 685 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:38,960 and it's like, well, then, how come he only averages 686 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,800 like two turnovers per game? How Come how come it's 687 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,960 not five because the way you guys talk about it 688 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:48,800 is five. It's just he's he's so valuable to this team, 689 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,639 and let's let's really see what he can do assuming 690 00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:55,840 he's not moved here as he continues to get healthier, 691 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,280 because I think we are going to see. The good 692 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,360 news is with this team is like, well, of course, 693 00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,280 Kawhi probably not going to keep up this level of 694 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,800 efficiency over the next month. Other guys could drop back 695 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,199 a little bit. But there's other guys on this team 696 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,239 that aren't playing as well that can play better like 697 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,559 a Beats a Zubots. So if one guy, you know, 698 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,800 goes down a little bit of dipping, the production of 699 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,440 Beats Zubas can help pick it up. That that's what 700 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,360 I'm looking forward to. 701 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that Jordan Poole is available, which I 702 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,159 was surprised we didn't get any trade ideas sent to 703 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,280 us about Jordan Poole because he's like a guy that 704 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,199 people foolishly are enamored with. 705 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 2: I have seen that. Somebody hit me up the other 706 00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:43,440 day and was like, he's a marksman, he's a bullseye shooter. 707 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:46,440 I'm like, he's a thirty four percent his career from three. 708 00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:48,079 What are you talking about. 709 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: He's a streaky guy. He can get on a heater. 710 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: Sure, he can get hot like Soka Jamal Crawford. Doesn't 711 00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:57,880 mean he was some insanely good three point shooter. Jordan 712 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,760 Poole's three point shooting over seven years is at thirty 713 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,119 four point four percent. Do I still like him as 714 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,519 kind of a project guy because he's only twenty six 715 00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,800 and he was big actually for Golden State during that 716 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,360 championship run in twenty twenty two, and there's probably more 717 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,239 you can tap into in the right situation. Sure, for 718 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,440 the right for the right deal, I'd be interested in. 719 00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:22,000 It's still but let's let's be honest. He is not. 720 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,480 Just because he averaged twenty one points per game last 721 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,480 season in Washington for a team that won fifteen games 722 00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:29,800 or something like that doesn't mean he can do that 723 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,320 on a winning team. That's the difference. But for the 724 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,400 right deal, I'd be interested. 725 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's at thirty two mel this year, thirty four 726 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,280 next year, and then he's oh yeah, and then he's 727 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,719 unrestricted twenty seven to twenty eighth. 728 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 2: Well for that money, they're probably not doing it because 729 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,320 he goes past. So summer of twenty twenty seven he's unrestricted. 730 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,639 Speaker 1: Twenty seven to twenty eight, he's unrestricted. 731 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 2: So is that after that season or before that season? 732 00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:02,519 That is what is hen restricted? The summer you know 733 00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:02,840 what I mean? 734 00:39:03,159 --> 00:39:06,559 Speaker 1: The summer of twenty twenty eight, he is unrestricted. 735 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: So it goes past the summer twenty twenty seven. 736 00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: Oh no, sorry, summer of twenty twenty seventy is unrestricted. 737 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,639 That's my bad, Okay, okay. Twenty six, twenty seventies at 738 00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:16,280 thirty four mil and then he's UFA. 739 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,079 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'd say it's a non starter when past 740 00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,079 the summer of twenty twenty seven, but it doesn't. 741 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: It depends as a Hornets player though, or you know 742 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,400 what he's like, it's like, do you want to score 743 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,599 him one? Great? 744 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: Like you may be talking that junk about the Hornets now, 745 00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:34,119 but I'll have you know in this span where the 746 00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,639 Clippers they're like gone sixty and three, Yeah, they have 747 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:40,039 the second best net rating. Guess who's the third best 748 00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,920 net rating in the league. The Charlotte Hornets. Yeah, somehow 749 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,000 they're only eleven and ten over that stretch, which doesn't 750 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:47,440 seem right. That may probably lost a lot of close games, 751 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,639 but they've been winning as of late. 752 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,559 Speaker 1: Yes, I just met you know what I mean. Like 753 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,679 or he's like a Wizards guy where it's like, go 754 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,920 score a bunch of points. Do Jordan Poole basketball? 755 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's can you get more out of him? Can 756 00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:02,280 a change of scenery? Maturity? 757 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: Whatever? 758 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,159 Speaker 2: It's the same stuff we talk about with a Mellow 759 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,039 or Kaminga or a lot of these young talented guys. 760 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,159 But do they play a winning brand of basketball? We 761 00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:12,760 don't know. They haven't yet. 762 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,679 Speaker 1: Pool did for a brief period of time. 763 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a flash in twenty twenty two, and 764 00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:21,559 yet they still because Draymond punched him and apparently Team Dynamics, 765 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,360 they still let him go. 766 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: Man, I'm so like, I can't wait for Kippy three. 767 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,079 Speaker 2: By the way, Oh that is true, and they didn't 768 00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:32,199 want to give him the extension. 769 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: I look forward to whing Draymond does not. This current 770 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,559 version of Draymond is not playing basketball. 771 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: It's it's a tough watch. Sometimes it's just frustrating. He's 772 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,719 a great competitor, but some of the stuff he does, 773 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,840 and then he says, nobody thinks I'm a dirty player. 774 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: It's like he said that, and then the next the 775 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,559 next game, which might have been the next day, he 776 00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:54,679 elbows the guy and then he's just yelling at the 777 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,440 ref what are you going to do about it? And 778 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,440 it's like you were one of the best defenders, like 779 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,280 for a very long time, like you were anyway. Yeah, 780 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,719 it's just like dude. Austin Rivers canceled his podcast recently. 781 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,960 I hope other players follow suit. 782 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's probably gonna trend towards more players 783 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,360 podcasting than less over the next few years. 784 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,599 Speaker 1: But have you looked this is maybe a Patreon topic. 785 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,960 Have you looked at some of the YouTube numbers for 786 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,880 these player podcasts and stuff. 787 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:31,639 Speaker 2: Like who's likesp and stuff? I didn't even know Tree 788 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,519 Young atta consistent one, dude. 789 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: They're like like damakan Sue has like a podcast and 790 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,800 you're just like, no. 791 00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, does he get does he get listens? 792 00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,599 Speaker 1: Let me look it up. But I guess I don't 793 00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:47,960 know what I thought they would be, but they're a 794 00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:52,800 lot lower than like it really adds to the like 795 00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:54,440 what are you doing this for? 796 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,199 Speaker 2: When we have a guy eating paper on ours? Do 797 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,280 we do better numbers? 798 00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: We might? Dude, Okay, like the. 799 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 2: Knicks guys do well. I think the. 800 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: Knicks guys do well. So yeah, like I mean, he 801 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,039 hasn't put out a YouTube video in three months, but like. 802 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,679 Speaker 2: Okay, so he got to be consistent. 803 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: He had Dwight Howard on that got fifteen thou but 804 00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,920 like fourth out, it's just numbers where you're like, you 805 00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:27,960 don't need to do this. Tart's man had a pot 806 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,800 at one point, but he's not like a star, so 807 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,840 I kind of get that. But It's just like if dude, 808 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,400 there's no money wandering involved somehow. 809 00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: If it's an outlet for them and it's therapeutic to 810 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,719 some even though it's not a huge audience, but they 811 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,159 just like talking about the game, you know, more power to. 812 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: Well MP specifically, isn't just talking about the game. 813 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,039 Speaker 2: I actually think people can hate on this, but I 814 00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:56,559 think Paul George is pretty good most of the time. 815 00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:59,320 I do. I've always thought it was pretty solid. I 816 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,880 haven't Yeah, I haven't watched any recently. Did he Is 817 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,199 he still in dark mode because of like how bad 818 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,800 they started off or going back to last summer. Didn't 819 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,519 he takes some time off? Is he still off? I 820 00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:11,840 feel like I haven't seen a promotion from Dallas Rutherford 821 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,480 for his podcast and forever Man. 822 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: I hated their podcast. 823 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty good. They had good guests 824 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,519 on there. I mean, there was some things I really 825 00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:24,199 disliked that they said, obviously, with him calling the Clippers 826 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,320 a B team and all these things, and but he 827 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,119 had like what he had Jerry west On, like that 828 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,639 was a great show. Like they've had some really good shows. 829 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: Last episode was three months ago. 830 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 2: So that's like, yeah, about the time the season started. Yeah, 831 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,519 he's in lockdown mode. 832 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:40,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. 833 00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:43,760 Speaker 2: God, we'll see him on Monday, Yes we will. 834 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, before we get out of here. We got 835 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,639 Suns on Sunday, which is a huge game for the 836 00:43:49,679 --> 00:43:53,159 standings as well, and then seventy six ers Monday. We're 837 00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:57,239 probably splitting that back to back, right, I keep saying 838 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,320 that he was winning the back to back, so I'm just. 839 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 2: Gonna I'd be you know, I'd be fine if they 840 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,920 swept the back to back again. I'd be with that. Okay. Uh, 841 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,039 does Philly play on Sunday? Is that a back to 842 00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:13,920 back for them? Because obviously with their injury concerns, if 843 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,039 they're playing a back to back, some guys aren't gonna 844 00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:18,199 play both games, for sure, they're not. 845 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,639 Speaker 1: They're playing, uh Saturday and then Monday. Mhm. 846 00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: Joel EMBD looks to be back in a lot of ways. 847 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,239 I don't know, back back MVP level, but he's playing 848 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,960 really well. I'm happy to see that. I love Embeid. Yeah. 849 00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:34,880 Uh so, yeah, that could be a much tougher game 850 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,559 because the Suns without Devin Booker right now, well, they 851 00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:41,159 have some sons culture going on and people have called 852 00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:44,519 them the Clippers. Of last season until the real Clippers 853 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,639 of last season came back with these Clippers of this 854 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,119 season turning things around. But hey, my guy, my guy, 855 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,000 Dylan Brooks, who I like. I told you he does 856 00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:58,039 good things. He's tough man. He creates a culture. 857 00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: So the Clippers have a back to and they got 858 00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:03,920 to travel. Albeit it is just La to Phoenix and 859 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,079 then back, so that does make things kind of interesting. 860 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 2: Five in both. 861 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a five pm game on Sunday too. 862 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 2: It was a Monday game and eight o'clock start at 863 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,119 the n eight o'clock. 864 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's horrible. 865 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 2: H I think they could do it. I want to 866 00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:31,719 see is Kawhi gonna play both? I wonder if DJ 867 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,440 comes back? 868 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we never really had any. We got some updates, right. 869 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:41,880 He was kind of like shooting around practice. Yeah, and 870 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,280 Bogie was doing some oncoming practice. 871 00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 872 00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:46,079 Speaker 1: Interesting. 873 00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 2: They Bogey more likely to come back money than DJ. 874 00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:51,440 But I don't know. Boge cracked the rotation right now 875 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,280 with how good Kobe Sanders and Jordan Miller. 876 00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,639 Speaker 1: Are, Well, you gotta put him in there for trade stuff. 877 00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,039 Gotta find ten minutes here and there to put Bogie 878 00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:00,000 in for some trade stuff. 879 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,119 Speaker 2: That's not the worst call. Thet's trade deadline next week, 880 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,079 and they showcase Bogey a little bit beforehand. Hey he's healthy, guys. 881 00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, give him one game. We'll play him thirty six minutes. 882 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 2: ISOs I like Bogie? I I you know, I had 883 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,119 very high helps for him with the Clippers and unfortunately 884 00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:19,719 just can't stay healthy. It's been rough. 885 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been tough. 886 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,079 Speaker 2: All right. 887 00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:26,079 Speaker 1: That about wraps things up. My Internet has decided to cooperate. 888 00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:28,639 I hope I never have to go through that saga again. 889 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,159 Thank you for sticking with us. We're gonna do a 890 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,920 postgame live hang after tomorrow's bout versus the Nuggets. We 891 00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:40,760 also got some a possible really fun event with lol 892 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,679 wtf Eric coming up where he wants to draw on 893 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,679 a live stream where we just kind of hang out 894 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:48,079 and talk clips and he does one of his fantastic drawings. 895 00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:51,920 So that will be happening at some point. Nice. He 896 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,599 asked us when do we do our pod and I 897 00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:59,719 was like, we do not have a schedule. We are fluid. 898 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:06,079 We are fluid. We're gonna a full episode on Tuesday. Reviews. Help, 899 00:47:06,159 --> 00:47:08,840 if you're listening, you know, let us know how you 900 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,280 feel about it over at Spotify or iTunes. If you're watching, 901 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,920 let us know on the YouTube comments and watch the 902 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,599 paper bowl. Go back and watch it. It's one of 903 00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:20,280 the best fan moments in Clippers history. Flob eight paper 904 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,800 It was a good time. Adam. You're one positive thing 905 00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:31,639 for the Clippers heading into kind of a wonky couple 906 00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:32,079 of games. 907 00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:36,679 Speaker 2: Maybe you know Kauai has been dealing with this ailment 908 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,239 with the left knee contusion, then he had the illness, 909 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,480 and then they just got two days off, so two 910 00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:46,800 days off, Saturday off, and then back to back, so 911 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,000 it's a three and four. But after two days off, 912 00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,639 there's a good chance some guys can be more well 913 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,320 rested and they can really attack this next stretch of games, 914 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,679 which gets much tougher over the next you know, if 915 00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,760 you want to say the next nineteen, just the nineteen 916 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,400 where they just went sixty and three, it's not going 917 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,039 to be as easy to go sixty and three the 918 00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:08,559 next nineteen. But maybe they can get a few guys 919 00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:11,320 healthier for this upcoming three games coming up. 920 00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:14,079 Speaker 1: Here and win the games you should win. Let's let's 921 00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:16,719 get that in there. Thank you again for everyone hanging out. 922 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,960 We will be back tomorrow post game, hopefully after a win. 923 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,559 Make sure you listen to the Clippers Talk as well. 924 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,599 Adam will be doing this thing over there, and as always, 925 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:25,840 let's go clips.