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Speaker 2: We're ready to go now. We have four really interesting
Speaker 2: guests lined up and I'm going to start off with
Speaker 2: Archie Gotsman. Is a got Archie. I want to get
Speaker 2: the pronunciation correctly.
Speaker 4: Sure, it's Gottsmith.
Speaker 2: Hi, very nice to talk with you, Archie. Goddessmian. We
Speaker 2: deal with issues dealing with anti Semitism, which I know
Speaker 2: you are very concerned about.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact.
Speaker 5: On Wednesday. Wednesday night, we had a good friend Benny SHARONI,
Speaker 5: a friend of mine who's the Israeli Consul general to
Speaker 5: New England on the program. And if you know anything
Speaker 5: about my show, it's anti Semitism is something that just
Speaker 5: will not go away and it has to be stamped
Speaker 5: out at every turn. I don't happen to be Jewish.
Speaker 5: I happen to be Roman Catholic, but as a television reporter,
Speaker 5: I filed reports from Auschwitz and one of an Emmy
Speaker 5: Award for the reports that I filed, and it's something
Speaker 5: that I feel very deeply about. And welcome to our show.
Speaker 5: You're amongst friends. You have a new organization called You Belong.
Speaker 5: Now some are going to say that's kind.
Speaker 2: Of a harsh name. I think I know what it means,
Speaker 2: but I want you to explain it. And you folks
Speaker 2: who put up some provocative billboards here in the Greater
Speaker 2: Boston area to essentially make people shock them a little
Speaker 2: bit and say, hey, look, this is a real problem.
Speaker 2: We got to deal with it. Go right ahead, Archie.
Speaker 3: Archie.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to dominate, but I wanted to make
Speaker 2: sure that you were comfortable and that you knew you
Speaker 2: were with people who are with you shoulder to shoulder
Speaker 2: on this fight.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Dan, I really appreciate it, because honestly,
Speaker 4: it's not not only isn't it always the case, but
Speaker 4: it's often the case where you know, when I speak
Speaker 4: about you Belong, I don't know if I'm going into
Speaker 4: a friendly or unfriendly space and people who are you know,
Speaker 4: just downright anti Semitic. And it's it was not that way,
Speaker 4: you know, three four or five years ago, and it's
Speaker 4: the world has just really turned very very challenging for
Speaker 4: Jews and allies. You know, as you say, you see
Speaker 4: it as clearly as I do with the anti Semitism
Speaker 4: that's growing. Anyway, you asked about the name Jubilong. We
Speaker 4: started ju Belong not to fight anti Semitism, but we
Speaker 4: actually started it. It's an online organization that is gives
Speaker 4: away resources for free for people who you know, for
Speaker 4: Jews or allies. Like maybe some passovers coming up in
Speaker 4: like a little more than two weeks, and say someone
Speaker 4: wants to celebrate Passover, but maybe they didn't have any
Speaker 4: Jewish education or maybe they're not even Jewish, but passovers
Speaker 4: celebrated by people with many faiths and they want to
Speaker 4: take a look at the passover Hagada.
Speaker 6: That's the guidebook.
Speaker 4: And Jubilong has really easy resources online that people download
Speaker 4: or for free and just print out and use. And
Speaker 4: that's what we were doing, was that kind of work.
Speaker 4: And then it was actually before October seventh. It was
Speaker 4: about in twenty twenty one was when the anti Semitism
Speaker 4: started to be so in your face. That that's when
Speaker 4: we started with the billboards that you were talking about.
Speaker 2: And that's now there's two billboards up and I know
Speaker 2: what they're about, but I want you to explain them
Speaker 2: because people will be seeing them in the Cambish area. Yep.
Speaker 4: One of them is on mass Ave in Davenport Street
Speaker 4: and that one says Radicals ruin America. And the other
Speaker 4: one is on mass Av in Somerville, av And that
Speaker 4: says standing against anti Semitism is standing with America. And
Speaker 4: you know, it's funny there. And as you said, they
Speaker 4: are in your face. They're pink and white. You hopefully
Speaker 4: can't miss them, and they're short and compelling. Because there
Speaker 4: are not enough people in this country who are aware
Speaker 4: of anti semitism. You are and your listeners are because
Speaker 4: because of you know, you're educated about it, but so
Speaker 4: many people just don't. They're like, oh, really like that
Speaker 4: anti Semitism growing, and you know, I happen to be Jewish,
Speaker 4: and it's it is sometimes you know, frightening to sort
Speaker 4: of to speak that because people are sort of not
Speaker 4: shy about being, you know, about hating Jews in public.
Speaker 4: So what Jubilong is saying is, I mean that's I
Speaker 4: would say this about any group that was hated. Is
Speaker 4: you know, it's not okay to hate a group of
Speaker 4: people just because it's a group of people. And we
Speaker 4: want to raise awareness, we want people to talk about it.
Speaker 4: We want to have conversations just like this one so
Speaker 4: that more people are because most people are good people.
Speaker 4: They don't hate Jewish, but they they don't hate anybody.
Speaker 4: But to make the conversation happened, and that's what most
Speaker 4: billboards do well.
Speaker 2: First of all, my dad was in World War Two,
Speaker 2: and as a kid growing up and I'm a baby boomer,
Speaker 2: we were taught at the kitchen table about the lessons
Speaker 2: of World War Two and that's why it is you know,
Speaker 2: deeply ingrained in me. At the same time, growing up
Speaker 2: I watched anti virulent anti semitism, which for the most
Speaker 2: part existed on the far right in this country in
Speaker 2: Rockwell and those nut jobs, the people who watched in Skokie,
Speaker 2: Illinois and all of that. But in recent years, what
Speaker 2: is really frightening is I've watched anti semitism, and I've
Speaker 2: talked with friends of mine who are Jewish and who
Speaker 2: are not Jewish but are on the left. Politically, it
Speaker 2: is fantastasized to the American left, and that, to me
Speaker 2: is a frightening development.
Speaker 4: I totally agree. In fact, sometimes people asked me I
Speaker 4: speak about this subject. They're like, well, what's more frightening?
Speaker 4: And you know, honestly, in a in a crazy way,
Speaker 4: the anti Semitism on the left is more frightening. And
Speaker 4: my reason for that is because it's usually hidden. Like
Speaker 4: when people say, listen, I hate you. I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: you know you hate me, Like that's clear, and it's
Speaker 4: it's horrible, but at least it's clear. What happens on
Speaker 4: the more and more on the left is people like, well,
Speaker 4: I don't really hate Jews, I just hate Israel. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: but you know, yeah, you scratch just a little below
Speaker 4: the surface. They don't need it.
Speaker 6: They hate Jews so well.
Speaker 3: They were.
Speaker 2: There was that, there was the There was that professor
Speaker 2: from Cornell who in the wake of October seventh said
Speaker 2: that he was exhilarated.
Speaker 4: Yep, he was exhilarated after the October seventh, after the killing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like and that's someone who's teaching at Cornell.
Speaker 2: That's that's That's not some guy living in his basement
Speaker 2: and running out in the middle of the night and
Speaker 2: writing spray painting swatstick is on the street. Uh. Anyway,
Speaker 2: how can folks get more information because we can't even
Speaker 2: begin to cover what I want to cover with you,
Speaker 2: what what is the best way that people who are
Speaker 2: Jewish or not Jewish or whatever and who would like
Speaker 2: to get more information, particularly after seeing the billboards here
Speaker 2: the greater Boston area.
Speaker 3: What what's the website?
Speaker 4: Okay, the website is ju belong j E W B
Speaker 4: E l O n G dot org.
Speaker 6: So jubelong dot org.
Speaker 4: They can go on there, they can reach there's an
Speaker 4: email on there and just you know, one of the
Speaker 4: messages to suppress send us a message. We also are
Speaker 4: on Facebook and we are on Instagram and we're we're
Speaker 4: a small unit. We're only about eight team members at Jubilong.
Speaker 4: We're small but mighty, and we love to have conversations.
Speaker 4: We're a nonprofit and that's how you know. It's funny
Speaker 4: in your backyard at Harvard. You were talking about Cornell.
Speaker 4: There's also been some very very challenging.
Speaker 2: We have covered that story here on Nightside many hours
Speaker 2: over the last year and a half.
Speaker 3: Trust me, trust me on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's every everywhere you turn. But thank you so
Speaker 4: much for covering it because it's so important. But anyway
Speaker 4: I was, people can reach out and and sometimes people say,
Speaker 4: in fact, with those billboards now, sometimes people say I
Speaker 4: want a billboard in a specific place, or I want
Speaker 4: to have a campaign I'm really interested in in in
Speaker 4: this area. And those are some of the reasons that
Speaker 4: we go to certain that we put billboards up because uh,
Speaker 4: you know, that's where people people want them, whether it's
Speaker 4: because of anti Semitism or just they want to raise awareness.
Speaker 2: Archie, thank you so much for your time and we'll
Speaker 2: talk again, and please have a have a lovely weekend.
Speaker 3: And thank you very much. You always welcome here on Nightside.
Speaker 4: Damn, thank you so very very much. Keep up the
Speaker 4: great work.
Speaker 2: You're welcome you as well. Will we get back. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk about a let's controversial topic, going to
Speaker 2: talk about the Sleeping on an Idea work. We're going
Speaker 2: to talk with Adam Horowitz. He's a former post doctoral
Speaker 2: associate at the MIT sleep the MIT Media Lab, and
Speaker 2: he's a sleep expert. We'll be back on night Side
Speaker 2: after this very quick break.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
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Speaker 2: So here's the question, this sleeping the sleeping on an
Speaker 2: Idea work. You know you hear people say I'm going
Speaker 2: to go sleep on it with us. Is Adam Horowitz.
Speaker 2: He's a former post doctoral associate at MIT, is a
Speaker 2: sleep expert. He also has a connection, maybe still has
Speaker 2: a connection with the MIT Media Lab. Adam Horowitz. Welcome
Speaker 2: to Nightside. How are you, sir.
Speaker 6: I'm doing really well. I'm glad to chat with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I read this piece out of the Washington
Speaker 2: Post that talked about when people like Einstein did how
Speaker 2: that they would nap and they thought they thought some
Speaker 2: of their best ideas came when they when they napped.
Speaker 2: And Einstein and I guess held some heavy items in
Speaker 2: his hands, so when he would sort of doze off,
Speaker 2: he'd be kind of in that netherland. They had hit
Speaker 2: the floor, that'd wake them up. What do you think,
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that our mind is working
Speaker 2: when we're sleep? Is it working in a good direction
Speaker 2: or a crazy direction?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's a really good question. And
Speaker 6: the important thing is that it's working in a different direction.
Speaker 6: The brain when you're sleeping and when you're dreaming is
Speaker 6: doing something different than when you're awake, and that means
Speaker 6: that it's useful for different kinds of thinking. And so
Speaker 6: you know, across history there's many folks. There's Einstein thinking
Speaker 6: about special relativity. There's Thomas Edison, dollad or Dalli or
Speaker 6: Sylvia Plath. All these people say they get their best
Speaker 6: ideas at the lip of sleep, just when you've entered it.
Speaker 6: And the idea is it's pretty crazy thinking, but sometimes
Speaker 6: you need to think pretty crazy, and this is the
Speaker 6: way to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's happened to me a couple of times. Nothing
Speaker 2: on the level of Einstein or Edison or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but a couple of things. You will you wake up
Speaker 2: it was funny.
Speaker 3: Last night. I in one of my.
Speaker 2: Dreams, and sometimes I remember them, sometimes I don't. I'm
Speaker 2: going to play a trick of my wife. I had
Speaker 2: a dream I was trying to call her at work,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't get through her the operator at her company.
Speaker 2: So over the weekend, I'm going to say to her,
Speaker 2: look you better, you know, get get talked to that operator,
Speaker 2: because you know, I was, I had a dream last
Speaker 2: night and I was having a tough.
Speaker 3: Time get.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's she.
Speaker 2: Will pick on that up very quickly, but she will
Speaker 2: give me that you are a total idiot. But it's
Speaker 2: a great opportunity to self deprecation. Is is something that
Speaker 2: I think is really important because it's humorous and i'mself
Speaker 2: deprecating myself. But yeah, but that's that's the sort of
Speaker 2: dream I had last night. And I know sometimes people
Speaker 2: have dreams and they think it is a precursor of
Speaker 2: something that's really going to happen. Do you buy into
Speaker 2: that as well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's a really good questions.
Speaker 6: There's what people call precognitive dreams and prodromal dreams are
Speaker 6: the two kind of big categories. So precognitive being oh,
Speaker 6: I can predict the future in my dreams and prodromal being.
Speaker 6: I can predict future illness in my dreams. And it
Speaker 6: turns out there's a few studies on this. It turns out,
Speaker 6: for instance, people are really good at predicting the sex
Speaker 6: of their baby pregnant mothers based on their dreams. They're
Speaker 6: really accurate. There's a Johns Hopkins study about that. And
Speaker 6: it's pretty true that, for instance, if you have a
Speaker 6: bunch of teeth falling out dreams, it's very likely you'll
Speaker 6: be visiting the dentist in the next six months. There's
Speaker 6: a way in which you have these subtle physical signals
Speaker 6: that your brain's aware of, and even if you don't know,
Speaker 6: notice in the day because you're really distracted. Sometimes that
Speaker 6: little bit of toothpain can make a whole dream. So
Speaker 6: you realize this subtle thing your body is feeling that's interesting.
Speaker 2: So so your body is sending is in that case,
Speaker 2: is actually sending you a message that's right.
Speaker 6: And in the same way that your body, maybe your
Speaker 6: body understands the kind of hormones that are happening during
Speaker 6: the pregnancy, even if you don't understand it consciously. So
Speaker 6: maybe that's why dreams are such a good predictor.
Speaker 2: So what do you say, So you're saying that women
Speaker 2: can predict the gender of your child?
Speaker 6: Not correct?
Speaker 2: I mean, dads are just like they're guessing, I mean
Speaker 2: totally yeah, and maybe they're hoping for a shortstop, but
Speaker 2: you know it's nothing that's you know, or in this
Speaker 2: day and age, you know a number one female tennis player,
Speaker 2: which is even better than a shortstop.
Speaker 7: That's right, That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great. How long you've been doing this?
Speaker 2: Is this? Is this your career work? I see that
Speaker 2: you're with the MIT Media Lab and associated this.
Speaker 6: I was a Massachusetts local for quite a long time
Speaker 6: and this has been my work for years now. So
Speaker 6: I got my my PhD and my post doc both
Speaker 6: doing work on sleeping dreams between MIT and Harvard, and
Speaker 6: there's just just done.
Speaker 2: You couldn't get into any of the really good colleges,
Speaker 2: but you still went to college.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I on it. Yeah, yeah, I came.
Speaker 6: I came through the weather. I said, I'll do it
Speaker 6: all right. Yeah, And I'll tell you it's an endless
Speaker 6: topic because we know so little about dreams and they
Speaker 6: are as strange as it gets if you want to
Speaker 6: study neuroscience. When you're dreaming, you're amnesic, you're psychotic, you're delusional,
Speaker 6: you're inventive, you're irrational, and we don't know what is
Speaker 6: going on. And so my work was really to say,
Speaker 6: how can we harness this state and in fact boost
Speaker 6: people's creativity by saying, what if you didn't dream about
Speaker 6: something random, We chose what you dreamt about, and you
Speaker 6: got to dream about a particular creative problem, and then
Speaker 6: you did better on it when you wake up. That
Speaker 6: was the big idea.
Speaker 2: You know, I just got to say this and take
Speaker 2: this as a huge compliment. I love the passion you
Speaker 2: have for your work. My son in law, my son
Speaker 2: in law teachers at MIT in the Sloan School Cool
Speaker 2: Cool graduated where.
Speaker 3: He graduated as an undergraduate.
Speaker 2: I have a buddy of mine who I went to
Speaker 2: high school with, who I have no idea what he
Speaker 2: did for a living, because I kind of lost contact
Speaker 2: with him, but I know he had to have been
Speaker 2: working for like the CIA or something. Four degree undergraduate,
Speaker 2: you know, a degree, a bachelor's degree to masters and
Speaker 2: a doctoral The smartest smartest people I know and so
Speaker 2: uh and by the way, I will say this, and
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: You'll understand what I'm saying.
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Speaker 6: Else you're gonna get lost in those tunnels.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'll get I used to get lost, you
Speaker 2: know when I was over there was I'll get corridors,
Speaker 2: you know two nine and the next one is you know,
Speaker 2: X four twenty.
Speaker 6: Well, because they'll ask you, hey, what are you studying,
Speaker 6: and you'll say I have six'. Nine then you have
Speaker 6: what they. Mean all.
Speaker 2: Right oh, yeah really. Smart, HEY i really like this, Interview.
Speaker 2: Adam we'll get you. BACK i GOTTA i gotta give
Speaker 2: you more time because we maybe we'll do an hour
Speaker 2: and uh ask.
Speaker 3: People to call. In these are short interviews during let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about their.
Speaker 6: Dreams that would be really.
Speaker 2: Fun absolutely.
Speaker 6: Totally, well, yeah you give me call any. Time thanks for, Chatting.
Speaker 2: ADAM i absolutely. WILL i have so enjoyed the. Conversation
Speaker 2: and guess, what not only are you, smart but you
Speaker 2: have a really good sense of. Humor there's a lot
Speaker 2: of smart people who don't have much of a sense of.
Speaker 2: Heart you got Both Thanks, ADAM i appreciate.
Speaker 7: It be well you, too you.
Speaker 2: Too when we get, back we're going to talk With Bob,
Speaker 2: ryan the Great Boston globe sports, writer well a, Columnist
Speaker 2: he's done it. All nobody knows basketball and the history
Speaker 2: of The celtics in this. Town and of course yesterday
Speaker 2: they sold for either depending upon what what what paper you,
Speaker 2: read either six point three or seven point one billion.
Speaker 2: Dollars not, bad not. Bad Bob ryan coming up on
Speaker 2: the other, Side.
Speaker 1: It's Night side With Dan ray On boston's News.
Speaker 2: Radio big sports story this, week the sale of The Boston.
Speaker 2: Celtics and nobody know who's the history of The celtics
Speaker 2: better than my Guest Bob.
Speaker 3: Ryan, bob how?
Speaker 2: Long how many years have you been following The. Celtics
Speaker 2: it's got to be fifty at.
Speaker 3: Least, right, fifty maybe.
Speaker 8: More, yeah my first year as the Beat man was
Speaker 8: nineteen sixty, nine seventy and, so And i've been, YEAH
Speaker 8: i came right. There, yeah so FIFTY i. WAS i
Speaker 8: was well all my way at the fifty year. Mark but,
Speaker 8: yeah this is a very intriguing. Story well it, is and.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about, it you, know more about. It SO
Speaker 2: i just asked a couple of. Questions that, is how
Speaker 2: the heck does a team go from the sale of
Speaker 2: three hundred million dollars in the nineteen nineties to whatever.
Speaker 8: Is it six six point one billion.
Speaker 3: Or seven point One i'm hearing two.
Speaker 8: Numbers, well whatever it, is it's it's it's. Enormous, uh
Speaker 8: it's the. World it's the way it. IS i, mean
Speaker 8: a breakery. Record the thing has been escalating. That that's
Speaker 8: what sports. Franchises it's the going. Rate and they set
Speaker 8: a new record which will be eclipsed by somebody sooner or.
Speaker 8: Later it is rather, intriguing, though that it is in
Speaker 8: basketball rather than, football because football equilarly is the number,
Speaker 8: one you know sport In america by public. Taste but,
Speaker 8: this this is a rather record breaking and and but
Speaker 8: that's where we. Are and you, know The grosspecs made
Speaker 8: a very nice investment twenty years, ago and then now
Speaker 8: they're they're pride in the year set for the next several. Centuries,
Speaker 8: yeah talk about return on.
Speaker 2: INVESTMENT i, mean, yes they bought it in two o
Speaker 2: two for three sixty aimentory of your. Office i'm sure
Speaker 2: those those numbers are. Accurate but you go back even
Speaker 2: a few. YEARS i mean when after you, STARTED Irv
Speaker 2: levin And Harold, lipton according to The globe bought it
Speaker 2: for three point seven million. Dollars and that's a lot of.
Speaker 8: Money BUT i remember when we were discussing about, expansion
Speaker 8: uh The Dallas mavericks back in the early. Eighties And,
Speaker 8: uh the, big the big swallow hard thing they had
Speaker 8: to swallow was they had arbited THE nba had, arbitrarily
Speaker 8: uh increased the fee for expansion team from six million
Speaker 8: franchise FEE i, assume, yeah to twelve. Million and that's
Speaker 8: what they had to they had to accept.
Speaker 7: That.
Speaker 8: Uh and now we're in the. Billions that's where we.
Speaker 8: Are that that you know that it's still the. Question
Speaker 8: so let me.
Speaker 2: Ask you the tough.
Speaker 3: Question, yeah that's a.
Speaker 2: Reality, okay what's that going to mean to the? Fans
Speaker 2: are we going to be looking at ticket? PRICES i,
Speaker 2: mean ticket prices are? Expensive now you have those front that.
Speaker 8: Are, well we're going to wait and. See we don't
Speaker 8: know for, sure BUT i think it's if you're, REASONABLE i,
Speaker 8: mean if if you're, intelligent swallow you get ready for for. Something.
Speaker 8: Uh they they have invested in a at a time
Speaker 8: when this this team is payroll is is, skyrocking and
Speaker 8: they're there are all kinds of restrictions and in the
Speaker 8: click and bargaining. Agreement uh, yeah they have they have
Speaker 8: got in at a the at a peak. Point AND
Speaker 8: i would assume that the fans will be uh asked
Speaker 8: to help help out a little. Bit we'll. See we don't.
Speaker 8: Know uh you know this this news, gentleman mister Bil
Speaker 8: chisholm is so doing all the right. Things he's, local
Speaker 8: loves the, team blah blah blah. Bah, okay, fine but
Speaker 8: he's still a, businessman and and they have to they
Speaker 8: have to meet an enormous. Payroll so we'll see what.
Speaker 3: Happens He i'm, assuming has other people with.
Speaker 2: HIM i don't, Think oh, yeah maybe he's got he's
Speaker 2: got that that money in his check, account BUT i
Speaker 2: assume not so is he is he the majority owner or?
Speaker 3: Other?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no?
Speaker 8: Yes and and by the, way we we we cannot
Speaker 8: bury the lead.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 8: Uh there is a story in The New York post.
Speaker 8: TODAY i am looking at. It it's in a column
Speaker 8: Called on The money By Charles, casparino and the gist
Speaker 8: of the story is that The Wall Street people are
Speaker 8: stunned by. This they don't know who this. Is they,
Speaker 8: Quote i've never heard of this guy sports. Executive they
Speaker 8: wondering if he has to get money. Necessary his company
Speaker 8: is Called, symphony and they are according to what we
Speaker 8: read here in terms of we have a Miss march
Speaker 8: madness going, on they're like a mid major among among
Speaker 8: the hedgecomb. Funds they manage an estimated ten. Billion, well by,
Speaker 8: contrast the largest private equity, Farm, blackstone as a trillion
Speaker 8: one point one. Trillion and, nay he does have other.
Speaker 8: Partners this is a this is a. Group it's not
Speaker 8: this is not all his, money and uh, so but
Speaker 8: they their, question they don't know this.
Speaker 2: Guy, well the, Interesting, bob is THAT i have a
Speaker 2: daughter who works for one of these type companies Called
Speaker 2: Bessemer Venture. Partners and there's distinctions between the private equity
Speaker 2: companies and the venture capital companies hedge. Funds you, know
Speaker 2: guys like you and me who can remember The celtics
Speaker 2: starting lineup in nineteen sixty nine or nineteen sixty, five
Speaker 2: uh probably could not articulate all the different nuances of
Speaker 2: these different type of investment. Companies AND i think IT'S
Speaker 2: i think it's going to be fascinating to see how
Speaker 2: this plays. Out and if The celtics are worth six
Speaker 2: point three, BILLION i wonder what the other team is
Speaker 2: that plays in the.
Speaker 3: Building it's.
Speaker 8: Worse, well the thing, is there is a big discrepancy
Speaker 8: between basketball equity investment in hockey. Equity there's no Quick,
Speaker 8: now The celtics are tenants at The, bruins and they
Speaker 8: have been first since they came into being in nineteen forty.
Speaker 8: Six we know. That but the fact of the matter
Speaker 8: is that basketball is more important quote unquote in this
Speaker 8: world in this discussion that we're having than, hockey even
Speaker 8: though they are the tenants and The bruins are the.
Speaker 8: Landlords so that's another discussion at, all.
Speaker 2: Like to be like a person who's. There they're renting
Speaker 2: an apartment in the. Building but while they've been renting
Speaker 2: an apartment in that, building they have bought up all
Speaker 2: the other buildings on ten blocks in every. Direction there's still.
Speaker 8: Well and the other thing that's interesting here is That Steve,
Speaker 8: paluka the group he had was beaten. Out they were,
Speaker 8: denied and that's. Interesting and the other thing is this
Speaker 8: That Wick grosbec has gotten his wish that he will
Speaker 8: be THE ceo or the governor through twenty seven to twenty,
Speaker 8: eight and we're, WONDERING i mean just wondering, ALLOWED i
Speaker 8: mean just a fair it's a fair. Speculation it's just
Speaker 8: the reason among the people that were bidding there were
Speaker 8: three or four entities that were, building Including kalukas is
Speaker 8: Mister chishom's the only one that would Allow Wick rosspec's
Speaker 8: wish and that's that that's why they sold to them
Speaker 8: as opposed to you, know for, example The. PALUCA i don't,
Speaker 8: know but it's a fair. Speculation the other thing.
Speaker 2: Too is that maybe that's a transition For chisholm to
Speaker 2: get his feet in the ground and maybe if there's
Speaker 2: some tough a message is to deliver to him are
Speaker 2: here or there could be delivered By grossbeck and up
Speaker 2: by the new.
Speaker 3: OWNER i don't know this.
Speaker 8: Fact now there's a lot of this and this is
Speaker 8: not this is very. Interesting there are loose ends here
Speaker 8: for US uh AND i don't know that it's. Over
Speaker 8: The first of, all THE Nba board Of governors has to.
Speaker 8: Approve we have no idea that they won't approve. It,
Speaker 8: certainly six point one billion is a lot of money
Speaker 8: AND i think they're impressed with, that but we'll see
Speaker 8: what happens. There but it's it's it's. INTRIGUING i you
Speaker 8: know exactly why Mister chisholm and this group got the
Speaker 8: team as opposed to mister pelucus, proposal but what he,
Speaker 8: did and that's that one final, Question.
Speaker 2: BOB i know that WHENEVER i talked to your your
Speaker 2: comrade in, arms Mister, shaughnessy he talks about The celtics
Speaker 2: and even later than when you, arrived and how that
Speaker 2: back in the day they weren't staying at these, teams
Speaker 2: weren't staying at The Four seasons and all of those you,
Speaker 2: know very high end riches and places like. That they
Speaker 2: were like get a. Holiday And i'm, Sure i'm. SURE
Speaker 2: i don't think The celtics devastated like at a red
Speaker 2: roof in but, look everything has gone for his class
Speaker 2: in THE nba at this, point AND i just hope
Speaker 2: that the young players now appreciate and revere what guys
Speaker 2: like you, Know Koozi, Sharman Casey, Jones Sam jones and,
Speaker 2: others did you know they stand on their.
Speaker 3: Shoulders AND i just hope that the younger.
Speaker 8: PLAYERS i remember when in my early, days The celtics
Speaker 8: were in total turmoil with regard to ownership back in
Speaker 8: sixty nine seventy what he heard me in the company
Speaker 8: and and they they were actually at a point when
Speaker 8: they were stiffing hotels on on on and and and
Speaker 8: airlines and and, no it was it was. Incredible and
Speaker 8: that that's where they were at that. Time i've lived through.
Speaker 8: That i've lived to The JOHN Y. Brown that's like
Speaker 8: when we could do a whole show on That John
Speaker 8: Why brown. Here so we've we've. Progressed let's me just
Speaker 8: say this before we, close that this group that has
Speaker 8: owned the team since two o, two Mister grossbeck and his,
Speaker 8: group they get AN a ON a. Plus they have
Speaker 8: been spectacular. Owners they have been they have been dream
Speaker 8: owners for the fans and in every way and and
Speaker 8: so if this new group whoever you, know once they get,
Speaker 8: approved can be three quarters as good as what With
Speaker 8: grossbeck and this group have, been then the fans will
Speaker 8: be very well.
Speaker 2: Served well a great, Point Bob, bryan thanks so much
Speaker 2: for coming on. Again and you have been a friend
Speaker 2: for many, years and we've been blessed to have The
Speaker 2: ryans and The shaughnessy's still holding forth at The Globe
Speaker 2: sports page AS i often came with friends of. MINE
Speaker 2: i love The Globe sports. PAGE i don't necessarily love
Speaker 2: The globes editorial, page but the sports. Page it's been
Speaker 2: the best for my entire. Lifetime and it is the
Speaker 2: first THING i read every, day trust me on. That
Speaker 2: and it's AND i read it in the in the
Speaker 2: in pay per form That i'm holding in my hand right, Here,
Speaker 2: Bob Bob, bryan hall of, Fame hall of, fame, reporter, writer, columnist, Everything,
Speaker 2: bob thanks so.
Speaker 3: Much we'll talk, again, Okay.
Speaker 8: Budd, Here charlie. Welcome thank you for that kind, words
Speaker 8: well well.
Speaker 2: Deserved when we come back here on, nightside we have
Speaker 2: one fourth and final, Guest State Representative Kip, diggs who
Speaker 2: is actually going to talk, us talk to us about
Speaker 2: a salute to women's. Veterans this is an important month
Speaker 2: for women and whenever we can highlight what women's veterans
Speaker 2: have done for this country and for you and me
Speaker 2: and for those of all of us who practice The
Speaker 2: First amendment every, night we take that opportunity back With
Speaker 2: State Representative digs right after.
Speaker 1: This now back To Dan way live from The Window
Speaker 1: World Nice Sight studios ON Wbz News.
Speaker 2: Radio delighted to be joined by State Representative Kip. Diggs
Speaker 2: he's been on the show. Before Representative, diggs how are?
Speaker 7: You i'm, great thanks and how are?
Speaker 2: You i'm doing just. Great you your district is down
Speaker 2: of The. Cape remind my audience what communities do you
Speaker 2: represent down to The, cape BECAUSE i want people to,
Speaker 2: say this is my Rep who's who's talking?
Speaker 7: ABOUT i would be glad to my district is to It, Austeville, Steneville,
Speaker 7: Hyenas Barnstable village And West.
Speaker 2: Sharmouth that's a great, district great Great, cape great. District
Speaker 2: all the districts of The cape are. Great and you're
Speaker 2: A republican IF i IF i recall, Correct.
Speaker 7: No i'm. Not i'm A. Democrat you are A.
Speaker 3: Democrat i'm A.
Speaker 7: Demo that's.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay we'll try to make it at some.
Speaker 7: Point so you know what one Thing i'm all about
Speaker 7: is working. Together it's not about the d of the
Speaker 7: R it's about, people you, know and, really you, know
Speaker 7: politics is. Local so we've got to make sure that
Speaker 7: we and we need to work on both sides of
Speaker 7: the fence to work for and help. Everybody, yeah, No i'm.
Speaker 2: With you on, that and there are good people in both,
Speaker 2: parties AND i have friends in both, parties oh.
Speaker 3: Doubt you're one of my friends.
Speaker 2: On The democratic on The democratic, Side so, you in
Speaker 2: conjunction with The Capan Islands Veterans Outreach, center are going
Speaker 2: to be hosting A salute To Women's Women veterans in
Speaker 2: honor Of Women's History.
Speaker 3: Month when is?
Speaker 2: It where is? It who can people get? Tickets let's
Speaker 2: try to make some people aware of what's going.
Speaker 7: On go right, Ahead, Sure i'll be. Glad, So, dan
Speaker 7: thank you for allowing me to speak with you to
Speaker 7: this program. TONIGHT i really appreciate. It, An i'm excited
Speaker 7: to talk about The salute To Women, veterans an event
Speaker 7: to Honor Women History. Month It's, Monday march twenty fourth
Speaker 7: AT Thetua, library eight seventy Five Main street and contu at.
Speaker 7: Math you, Know, DAN i have over nineteen thousand veterans
Speaker 7: On cape cod one, thousand four hundred and twenty of
Speaker 7: them are. Women AND i have the most veterans in
Speaker 7: my district of over three. Thousand you, Know LIKE i,
Speaker 7: SAID i count at Ostible, Seneval Bonstable village And hyenas
Speaker 7: And West. Jarmouth so you, know and what's kind of
Speaker 7: cool IS i have the oldest serving veteran Of Pearl
Speaker 7: harbor attack who lives in my, District Freeman, johnson who
Speaker 7: turned one hundred and five last. Week AND i was
Speaker 7: so excited to be able to coordinate a celebration at
Speaker 7: The Bonsible Community Adult Community center where, officials, police FIRE rotc,
Speaker 7: veterans kids came to honor our our. Hero it was
Speaker 7: it was really. Awesome one hundred and five said, yes
Speaker 7: so he.
Speaker 2: Would have been, okay so this gentleman would have been
Speaker 2: born in like nineteen, twenty so he was u twenty
Speaker 2: one or twenty years old when he was At Pearl.
Speaker 2: Harbor unbelievable, Whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah and we had.
Speaker 7: It it was need. About the picture that we had
Speaker 7: on the cake was him as a youngster in the
Speaker 7: in the in the, military and you, know he just
Speaker 7: looked so he's he's still a, big still a tall,
Speaker 7: man and he just had a as a personality like
Speaker 7: you wouldn't believe. In and, uh he was you, know
Speaker 7: he's really not the guy that likes to be. Healthy
Speaker 7: he's more subdued and more to himself and went to
Speaker 7: his with his. Daughter but he was he was. Outstanding
Speaker 7: well that is.
Speaker 2: Sort OF i think the character character is the character
Speaker 2: of The greatest. Generation you, know they survived a depression
Speaker 2: and A world war and then went on to build
Speaker 2: families and communities and this If Tom broker had had it,
Speaker 2: right they were the greatest. Generation so this event Is,
Speaker 2: Monday so, Okay so that's This, monday three days from,
Speaker 2: now and it's eleven o'clock at The Catuwit library At
Speaker 2: age seventy One Main. Street is this one that people
Speaker 2: can walk into or do.
Speaker 7: You have to Get, yes you can walk. In you
Speaker 7: you don't have to get. Tickets feel free to walk
Speaker 7: right in and. Enjoy and we have some Great we
Speaker 7: have a great keynote, speaker and we have four other
Speaker 7: special speakers there, also so we Have our keynote speaker
Speaker 7: is Doctor andrew Gil, bennett who was the first Female
Speaker 7: African american selected to the rank of brigadier. General she
Speaker 7: served at thirty five years in the Math Army National
Speaker 7: guard and was deployed several, times Including paraguay in two
Speaker 7: thousand and, Eight iraq in two thousand and, nine went
Speaker 7: To kenya in twenty, sixteen where she was an expert
Speaker 7: in public health and currently serves as the First Deputy
Speaker 7: secretary Of Executive offices Of Veteran. Services and then the
Speaker 7: next person we are, speaking, yes, Yes then the next
Speaker 7: person we have is Retired Air Force colonel Doctor Jane.
Speaker 7: Ward she holds a. Master she holds A master in
Speaker 7: public health and serves active duty from nineteen seventy six
Speaker 7: to two thousand and. Two she comes from a proud
Speaker 7: family that has ancestry from being in The Mini men
Speaker 7: in seventeen seventy. Five her father served In World War
Speaker 7: two and her two brothers went To. Vietnam what makes
Speaker 7: her so special and stand out in her family of
Speaker 7: that long service was her Sole Air. Force she's an
Speaker 7: ophthalmologist in The West Pacific Clark Air Force base and
Speaker 7: in two. Thousand in two, thousand she founded The International
Speaker 7: Health Specialist program With, provider prepares The United States Air
Speaker 7: force medics for, global humanitarian and wartime. Missions so you,
Speaker 7: know then we have another, yeah one? More so, no,
Speaker 7: no we got we get, HONESTLY i got two. MORE i,
Speaker 7: mean it's just it's amazing the lineup that we have.
Speaker 7: Coming and that's WHAT i mean to know that it
Speaker 7: doesn't make a diffenty or a woman or a. Man
Speaker 7: but let me tell you. Something our women really the,
Speaker 7: leaders and it's just going to show you how much
Speaker 7: how special and how grateful we, are and how how
Speaker 7: honestly how special we have something like this that we're
Speaker 7: grated being able to have.
Speaker 2: This you, know it's just it's, Again, representative thank you
Speaker 2: for pulling this. Together i'm a little tight on time,
Speaker 2: here but let me just say one more. Time it's This,
Speaker 2: Monday march twenty, fourth beginning at, eleven is going to
Speaker 2: go for from eleven to. One it's at The Contuit
Speaker 2: library at eight seventy One Main street In. Contuit it's
Speaker 2: going to be a great. Event and the two women
Speaker 2: who you just mentioned are. Extraordinary if that woman was At,
Speaker 2: CLARK i Think Clark airbase is out in The. Philippines
Speaker 2: so these people have traveled the world representing all of
Speaker 2: us and our nation and they certainly need to be
Speaker 2: honored and their service needs to be. Honored Representative Kip
Speaker 2: diggs always great to chat with.
Speaker 7: You, REPRESENTATIVE i truly appreciate. It have a great night
Speaker 7: and great.
Speaker 3: Week two YouTube right back at. You all.
Speaker 2: Right when we get, back we're going to take on
Speaker 2: a subject that IS i think. Interesting there's a an
Speaker 2: annual world happiness, record AND i know It's friday, night
Speaker 2: so we can do something like. This, uh THE us
Speaker 2: is not the happiest country in the, world far from.
Speaker 2: IT i want to talk to you about this because
Speaker 2: this bothers, me and you'll be surprised when you hear
Speaker 2: the happiest. Country it's not ONE i think most people
Speaker 2: would think. Of we're going to talk about. That we'll
Speaker 2: be back right after the nine o'clock. News feel free
Speaker 2: to weigh. In know, all everyone's welcome, tonight as every
Speaker 2: night