1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,919 Speaker 1: So more news that's taking over twenty four to seven 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:09,880 the cycle hunter Biden's pardon by his father, President Joe Biden. 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,039 All right, I mean Biden's pardon of his son. It's 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:19,160 getting a ton and ton of pushback from both sides. 5 00:00:19,879 --> 00:00:23,079 So before I start it again here on the Michael 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,920 Cone Show, we are on our continued journey to two 7 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:28,679 hundred and fifty thousand subscribers. So do me a favor, 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,960 hit the subscribe button, but stay with me because this 9 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:35,679 is really important. I want to start by showing you 10 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:41,119 a clip of again Ron to sanctimonious commenting on the pardon. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:48,039 Ron DeSantis can never be anywhere but between himself, a 12 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:52,359 microphone and a camera. Play the clip. 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,359 Speaker 2: What does he do? He corruptly abuses the pardon power 14 00:00:56,759 --> 00:01:00,679 to give his son blanket immunity and by extension, protect 15 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:04,120 himself from having any inquiry. I think it's the opposite 16 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:07,640 with President Trump. They manipulated the law to go after 17 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:10,200 Donald Trump for political reasons and just. 18 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah again, oh Ron, listen, let me be very clear 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,200 about something. I know Donald for a decade and a half. 20 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:22,359 I know him so much better than you do. He 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,719 doesn't like you, so no matter how much ask kissing 22 00:01:25,799 --> 00:01:28,519 that you try to do, You're not going. You're not 23 00:01:28,599 --> 00:01:32,000 going with the ride. You stay as the governor of Florida. 24 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:35,319 You keep doing you there, Ron, No matter what you say, 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,079 Donald's not even listening to it. I assure you, there's 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,359 no amount of brown nosing that you can do that's 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,159 going to make you valuable to him. Let me just 28 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,439 be very clear about that. There's something about you that 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:55,599 he finds weird and off putting, and he is not interested. Now, 30 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:59,120 I want to go on to say another Trump sort 31 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,120 of loyalist, and again I understand what that is all about. 32 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,719 I want to show you what Jesse Waters said about 33 00:02:07,719 --> 00:02:09,599 this topic. Play the clip. 34 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,319 Speaker 3: At least Trump doesn't make promises he knows he's going 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,919 to break. You might not agree with what he does. 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,319 But when he says he's going to pardon Jen six Ers, 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,199 he'll probably do it. Recess his cabinet, He'll probably do it, 38 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:24,240 fire the FBI director. He's done it once, he'll do 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:24,680 it again. 40 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:28,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, I'm not going to disagree 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,639 with Jesse on that one. How many times over the 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,479 course of this program and my Maya Culpa podcast have 43 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:39,520 I turned around and said to you, when Donald Trump 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,719 tells you what he intends to do, why are you 45 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:49,360 ignoring it? And yet despite all of that, seventy six 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,319 million people voted for him, A plurality of our citizen 47 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,639 voted for him, and he will on January twentieth, become 48 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,800 the forty seven president of the United States. He will 49 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,639 become president again despite all of the things that he 50 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:12,759 said that he intends to do immigration, mass deportation to start. 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,240 So when Jesse Waters turns around and says that he 52 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,960 will probably do that, the word probably should not even 53 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,919 be there. He will do it, and he will go 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,080 after initially the low hanging fruit again topics I've talked 55 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,520 about here on the Michael Cohen Show. So why they're 56 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,039 even using the term probably, I don't know. But there 57 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,039 are promises that Trump made that he did not keep. 58 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,680 And you know the funny thing too, is if Trump 59 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:46,759 makes those promises and is unable to keep it, the 60 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,879 guys like Jesse Waters around DeSantis, they will come up 61 00:03:49,919 --> 00:03:52,759 with a reason why he could. And those reasons, by 62 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,759 the way, are fair and legitimate. He changed his mind, 63 00:03:56,479 --> 00:03:59,080 is he not entitled? Is he not permitted to change 64 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,960 his mind just because you said something on a Monday 65 00:04:02,039 --> 00:04:04,759 means that on Friday that that's what you have to do. 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,800 What if something changed you had a different thought process 67 00:04:08,879 --> 00:04:13,360 for it. Well, you know what, maybe Joe Biden should 68 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,840 be entitled to do the same thing. This is his son, 69 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,399 for God's sakes, a guy who is going to get 70 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,639 dragged through the legal mud, and trust me, I know 71 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:27,000 what that feels like. But he also is a recovering addict. 72 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:31,240 He is an addict for life, and he fights every 73 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,279 single day to stay off of drugs and to be 74 00:04:36,439 --> 00:04:40,360 strong for his family. And let's not forget that Joe 75 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:44,279 Biden has lost children before and he doesn't want this 76 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:48,319 for his job. And you know what, the president has 77 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,759 immense pardon power and he is permitted to do it. 78 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,079 Speaker 4: Now. 79 00:04:53,319 --> 00:04:55,879 Speaker 1: Do I think he should have done this earlier? Sure? 80 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,879 Should he have said that I'm going to pardon my 81 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,879 son earlier on? Fuck? Yeah, he should have. In that way, 82 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:06,319 now you won't have this argument that's going on. Well, 83 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,680 I said I was going to do it, and so 84 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,839 I did it instead. He was so emphatic that he 85 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,399 wasn't gonna do it. Of course they're going to attack. 86 00:05:14,639 --> 00:05:17,680 The funny thing, though, is there's no reason for that 87 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,439 to even happen anymore. Why Because Donald Trump won the election, 88 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:27,480 the campaigning is over. Jesse has to stop with the campaigning. 89 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,279 Ron DeSantis has to stop with the campaigning. Tommy Tuberville 90 00:05:31,439 --> 00:05:33,439 and the rest of them, they all need to stop 91 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:36,879 as if this is an ongoing campaign. It is not. 92 00:05:37,399 --> 00:05:41,519 January twentieth, the man will be standing up in front 93 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,560 of the you know, of the American people with his 94 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:46,560 hand on a Bible, and he will be sworn and 95 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:51,879 as the president. So what's the issue? All right? Now? 96 00:05:52,079 --> 00:05:54,759 I want to show you what John Stewart played on 97 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,519 his show about this topic. It's amazing the dichotomy between 98 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:01,839 the who positions played the clip. 99 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,319 Speaker 5: The problem is the rest of the Democrats made Biden's 100 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,639 pledge to not pardon Hunter the foundation of their defense 101 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,160 of America. This grand experiment. 102 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,399 Speaker 6: One political party remains committed to the rule of law 103 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:17,560 and the other doesn't. 104 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 5: It's that simple, Hunter, Biden's not above the law. 105 00:06:20,319 --> 00:06:22,399 Speaker 1: No one is above the law. Democrats stand for the 106 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,360 rule of law. We accept the outcome because that's how 107 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,279 the rule of law works. 108 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,519 Speaker 7: Because the justice system that convicted is only surviving son 109 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,360 is the same justice system he's vowed to protect. And 110 00:06:33,399 --> 00:06:36,240 if that doesn't tell you who Joe Biden is, I 111 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,319 don't really know what does. 112 00:06:38,319 --> 00:06:47,759 Speaker 5: I think I know what does? And now look at 113 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:50,000 the dance Democrats. 114 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 8: Have to do. 115 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 5: Be honest, the only reason why they went after a 116 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,600 Hunter the way they did, and I've talked to many 117 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,759 federal prosecutors about. 118 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 9: This, is because he's the president's son. 119 00:06:56,959 --> 00:06:59,759 Speaker 10: People have to remember, the president had lost two children already. 120 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,040 He does not need to lose another one to more 121 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,639 political which hunts. 122 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 8: The you know, crawling from Republicans. But we're talking about 123 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,680 you know, Donald Trump is a convicted felon who literally 124 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:16,279 pardoned his daughter's father in law and just made an 125 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:17,480 ambassador to France. 126 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,199 Speaker 4: So for anyone that wants to clutch their pearls now 127 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:23,079 because he decided that he was going to pardon his son, 128 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,000 I would say, take a look in the. 129 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,439 Speaker 9: Mirror, ma'am. 130 00:07:26,639 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 5: We will take a look in that mirror. But we 131 00:07:28,759 --> 00:07:36,040 are taking off, so you could just put this shit 132 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:50,360 on airplane mode and let us get home for the holidays. Yes, yes, yes, 133 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,720 yes to everything that you guys were saying. If you 134 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:57,000 hadn't made Hunter Biden not receiving a pardon. The Mason 135 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:00,879 Dixon line of morality between Democrats and Republicans, there's a 136 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:03,879 big gap between. The law is the only thing that 137 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,759 separates us from the animals. And monkey threw shitting me first. 138 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,079 Speaker 1: I had no choice. 139 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,639 Speaker 5: This is what Biden's decisions done. 140 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's right, it's exactly what the decision. I'm 141 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,639 not saying I disagree with it. If it was my son, 142 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,199 I would do the exact same thing. Again. I would 143 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:23,480 have liked for them to turn around and to have 144 00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:25,839 said it early on. That way, we wouldn't be on 145 00:08:25,879 --> 00:08:29,920 the defensive. There was no reason, everybody. I said to 146 00:08:29,959 --> 00:08:32,720 my mom and to my dad earlier on, there's no 147 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:36,000 doubt he has to do it. He has to. He 148 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,919 has no choice but to pardon him. Now, I want 149 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,440 to show you what Rachel Maddow had to say about 150 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,519 this play that clip. 151 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 6: That's the behavior in January sixth that Trump is praising 152 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,759 and promising to use his pardon power for. So yeah, 153 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:54,399 tell me all about the scandal of the use of 154 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,559 the pardon power. 155 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: All right, right, and how about Abby Phillips. She brought 156 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,159 up actually a really good point on her show that 157 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,679 Trump also has made many pardons, some of whom were 158 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:11,159 people that I was with in Otisville who had many 159 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,840 years left. Nobody questioned those play that clip. 160 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: I have to remember? 161 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 10: Can I just say, we have to remember that Trump's 162 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:21,679 pardon list from his last administration when he was leaving 163 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,159 office included literal bank robbers, drug dealers, embezzlers, murderers. You 164 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:27,960 can go to justice dot God and let me see 165 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,240 all the people. Ask to this, Scott, because this is 166 00:09:30,279 --> 00:09:35,720 a fair point. Donald Trump pardoned Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, 167 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:40,320 George Papadopolis, Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn. Joe Biden's also not 168 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,679 the first person to pardon a family member Hunter Biden, 169 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,879 Charles Kushner. Donald Trump did that one too. Roger Clinton 170 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,039 was pardoned with the president. Clinton's half brother, Emily Todd 171 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:54,720 Helm Abraham Lincoln's wife's half sister was pardoned. So are 172 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,960 we are we saying we have an with all of 173 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,440 those things? 174 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,879 Speaker 1: How many of the Yeah, Look, it's it's a it's 175 00:10:00,919 --> 00:10:08,480 a fair point. The president has immense pardon power. All Right, Again, 176 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,240 I gotta go right back to what John Stewart was 177 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:15,639 saying and what Rachel Maddow then further said, if only 178 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,759 he just would have been straightforward and said, yeah, yeah, 179 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,519 I'm going to parton and because he deserves it, he 180 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,200 deserves to be pardoned. Do you think that I would 181 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,080 have been charged with anything but for my relationship to 182 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:36,200 Donald Trump? And if you think the answer is anything but, no, 183 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:40,840 you'd be fucking wrong, all right. The only reason that 184 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,039 I was charged with anything was because of my proximity 185 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,480 and because of my relationship to Trump plane and simple 186 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:51,159 Now I want to end on. I want to end 187 00:10:51,159 --> 00:10:54,679 this segment on a clip of Jasmine Crockett, that's the 188 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,080 representative you saw on the airplane saying the problem with 189 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Democrats is that we bring a butter knife to a 190 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:05,480 real fight. Play that clip. 191 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,039 Speaker 9: I'm eagert. Can't your take on this? Because look, I mean, 192 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,799 you have actually congratulated President Biden. You seem to be 193 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:17,039 at least publicly in the minority among Democrats in the House. 194 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,879 Why do you think you are in the minority here? 195 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:20,840 And is it sincere? 196 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 4: First of all, it is sincere. And you know, I 197 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:27,879 can't say why my colleagues are acting the way that 198 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:30,480 they are. I can say that the American people are 199 00:11:30,519 --> 00:11:35,600 tired of us bringing a butter knife to a real fight, 200 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:36,279 a real war. 201 00:11:36,799 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: And I mean it's true Democrats will eat their own 202 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,759 whereas the Republicans, no matter what happens, they stand by 203 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:51,360 their candidate. They will fight to the end, to the 204 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,679 death on behalf of Trump. And that's why he ended 205 00:11:55,759 --> 00:12:00,480 up winning this election, all right, plain and simple. And 206 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:02,919 I just want to end it by saying, once again, 207 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,399 I really want you to go ahead and to think. 208 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,639 It's something I talk about in my book Revenge. Do 209 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,720 you really think that anything would have come to me 210 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:17,279 but for the fact that I was Donald Trump's personal attorney. Seriously, 211 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,399 so I understand what Joe Biden is going through in 212 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,679 terms of making this decision for his son. But I'm 213 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,639 gonna end it once again. Something I've repeated now over 214 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,559 the course of the past a few minutes. He should 215 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,240 have just come out and said, yeah, I'm going to period, 216 00:12:37,399 --> 00:12:40,200 end of story, and I don't care what you say. 217 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,240 It's my prerogative. I'm the president of the United States 218 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,360 and I have that power, plain and simple. There'd be 219 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:53,519 no fight today. And as always, thanks for listening. 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