Speaker 1: Day.
Speaker 2: Even know people are now voting early and absentee and
Speaker 2: mail in all over the country. But election day is
Speaker 2: still a week from tomorrow, on November fifth, when I
Speaker 2: will be casting my vote. I've not gotten on the
Speaker 2: early vote train. I'll be honest with you, But I
Speaker 2: thought it was important to talk about what happens up
Speaker 2: to election day and what happens after election day, regardless
Speaker 2: of the results. Some things to keep in mind and
Speaker 2: to help keep us upbeat and to keep us vigilant.
Speaker 2: My friend, historian Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute, a fantastic,
Speaker 2: brilliant writer about America and what America truly is and
Speaker 2: should be, the author of Rediscovering America, which is a
Speaker 2: fantastic history and tradition book on the culture here in
Speaker 2: the good old USA. The one and only Scott Powell
Speaker 2: joins us for a segment tonight, and Scott, how are
Speaker 2: you doing?
Speaker 3: Gary?
Speaker 4: Jeff?
Speaker 5: What a what a cordial introduction.
Speaker 4: I'll try to live up to it.
Speaker 5: I think the first thing that Americans, you know, have
Speaker 5: digested now and understand is that you know we've been
Speaker 5: living under really an unprecedented and unconstitutional abuse of government power.
Speaker 5: The Biden Harris regime, if you will, has done things
Speaker 5: in response to COVID nineteen, the twenty twenty election irregularities,
Speaker 5: the January sixth protests, and particularly particularly the open border
Speaker 5: policy that is that that has led to a place
Speaker 5: in American life that it was unthinkable before their administration
Speaker 5: that we are we have more in common with a
Speaker 5: Banana Republican than our constitutional republic.
Speaker 2: Especially when you figure you factor in you're talking banana
Speaker 2: republic stuff, when you factor in the total persecution and
Speaker 2: prosecution of their political opponents like Trump, that is banana republic.
Speaker 6: That's third world stuff.
Speaker 5: It is, it is, and people, you know, this is
Speaker 5: backfiring on them. I must say I think that I'm
Speaker 5: I'm an optimist now more than ever because these folks
Speaker 5: on the other side really have known no limits and
Speaker 5: they're almost self destructing in so many different ways. Their
Speaker 5: lawfair has backfired on them. Everything they did to Donald
Speaker 5: Trump during his administration.
Speaker 4: It was first.
Speaker 5: The the the Russia Russia Russia hoax, and the hearings,
Speaker 5: the Muller hearings, and then it was two impeachments and
Speaker 5: and ultimately you know, he, you know, he we couldn't
Speaker 5: successfully can test the election irregularity. And that was what
Speaker 5: January sixth was all about doing, was just standing our
Speaker 5: ground outside the Capitol, asking for those states that had
Speaker 5: had irregularity in the certification process needed to withhold the certification.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's the duty of elected officials to
Speaker 5: certify only what they're sure of, and if there's uncertainty,
Speaker 5: you don't certify.
Speaker 4: And that was the hope that we could.
Speaker 5: Just get those states that were unsure that they could certify,
Speaker 5: to have the courage to send the ballots back and
Speaker 5: to do, you know, a forensic study, yes, study of
Speaker 5: really what happened. But unfortunately j six in some ways
Speaker 5: may have actually affected it in the opposite way that
Speaker 5: it was intended. Because it's interesting that the break ins
Speaker 5: and the violence that happened, and it was not really widespread,
Speaker 5: but it was it was enough to cause the Congress
Speaker 5: to the Congress had been gathered to do this certification,
Speaker 5: and suddenly when they heard that the capital was her assault,
Speaker 5: they all, you know, they all were directed to safe
Speaker 5: quarters right where they where they hung out for some
Speaker 5: hours and then they went back to the certification process
Speaker 5: in the in the evening, I think around eight o'clock
Speaker 5: at night, after basically everyone, you know, the j six
Speaker 5: event was over. They went back, but they they felt
Speaker 5: a pressure to get it done, you know that, and
Speaker 5: so it back, you know that. So the unfortunately, what
Speaker 5: was hoped to be a peaceful a peaceful support for
Speaker 5: election integrity did not It didn't happen, and the certification
Speaker 5: was carried out, and then it became more.
Speaker 4: Difficult to you know, to conduct any ch the vote.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, January January sixth was merely it started
Speaker 2: out as a constitutionally guaranteed redress of grievances with the government,
Speaker 2: which we're allowed to do, as American Center allowed to do.
Speaker 2: And then because of a certain element within that crowd
Speaker 2: that wasn't there for redress of grievances, and the FBI
Speaker 2: has admitted that they had agents inside and there were
Speaker 2: informants inside that group and people who helped foment the
Speaker 2: actual violence that occurred on January sixth, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: not the people who were there for a redress of
Speaker 2: grievances with the government.
Speaker 7: And.
Speaker 2: So the whole thing was blown way out of proportion.
Speaker 2: Yes there was violence, and yes there was some breaking
Speaker 2: and entering, going on at the US capital. But as
Speaker 2: far as somebody like AOC saying that she felt her
Speaker 2: life was threatened, that that never really was a real
Speaker 2: worry or concern. But of course they had to blow
Speaker 2: it up to make it bigger than it was it
Speaker 2: was it was.
Speaker 5: You're right, Remember, remember this is what what the enemy,
Speaker 5: the terrorists of the world used. They you know, they
Speaker 5: wouldn't be as successful, uh in bringing about political change
Speaker 5: unless it unless the media didn't carry the water for them,
Speaker 5: the terrorists. You know, terrorism is largely a media event.
Speaker 5: So that's why we we have to always be careful
Speaker 5: about overreacting to the to the media.
Speaker 2: So anyway, getting back to yeah, what you were talking
Speaker 2: about before you were so rudely interrupted.
Speaker 5: It's okay, don't worry, but but I think that you know,
Speaker 5: it's the border problem that really has gotten all the
Speaker 5: Americans' attention. Certainly they're in Ohio in Springfield. That's certainly
Speaker 5: got your attention. And you know, so what has been
Speaker 5: this policy of bringing in massive numbers of immigrants into America.
Speaker 5: Oh and by the way, it's happening in Europe as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: It turns out that this is a U n strategy,
Speaker 5: UH that it is called replacement migration. What the U
Speaker 5: n what the UN's goal is to create a new
Speaker 5: world order where the United Nations would would have a
Speaker 5: you know, not just a you know, a titular position
Speaker 5: of affecting global offense, but actually be in charge a
Speaker 5: new world order where the UN would really have a
Speaker 5: governing voice. And they want to break down Western countries, UH,
Speaker 5: the United States in particular. And this is a strategy
Speaker 5: that they that they've written about. Replacement migration means displacing
Speaker 5: the native people with immigrants that don't that that don't integrate,
Speaker 5: that can't assimilate, h and can create big problems.
Speaker 6: They don't want.
Speaker 2: They don't want individual countries to have their own individual cultures,
Speaker 2: because that way they can install their global culture and
Speaker 2: replace the culture that's already been hard earned by generations
Speaker 2: of people who believe in certain values and speak a
Speaker 2: certain language, and eat certain foods and listen to certain
Speaker 2: music and all of the rest of the things that
Speaker 2: go in to our and pray to the One and
Speaker 2: only God and have Judaeo Christian values. If they can
Speaker 2: eliminate that, then it's much easier for them to take
Speaker 2: over everything well, a whole new culture.
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, when people forget their heritage, they have no
Speaker 5: memory of the past. This is what nineteen eighty four
Speaker 5: described very clearly, and brave new worlds of that matter
Speaker 5: as well. We've been warned that this is the goal
Speaker 5: of the globalists, you know, to break down, to demoralize
Speaker 5: first and then to create a destabilization or disorientation of
Speaker 5: the people. And in that environment it's very easy to
Speaker 5: carry out a crisis, and the crisis, we could say
Speaker 5: that we are in the crisis stage. We've been in
Speaker 5: the crisis stage since the last election, because if the
Speaker 5: election wasn't really bonafied, if the election produced a false
Speaker 5: result in it would appear that it did. And certainly
Speaker 5: the policies that have been inflicted on us have done
Speaker 5: more to take America down than any other administration in
Speaker 5: the history of the country.
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: As you write in the town hall piece, it's the
Speaker 2: great reversal, not the great reset. Yeah, you mentioned you
Speaker 2: mentioned that. On top of all this massive border invasion
Speaker 2: that has been going on and encouraged by the Biden
Speaker 2: Harris administration and smiled upon by the globalist at the
Speaker 2: UN we've also become because of this, the number one
Speaker 2: country in the world in human and child traffic, in
Speaker 2: criminal gang activity, and seating our territory for insurrection and
Speaker 2: direct terrorist attacks because of the unvetted open border and
Speaker 2: and all of this, and letting the cartels basically be.
Speaker 6: The people in charge of.
Speaker 5: Well, the cartels have reached They not just reached into
Speaker 5: our across the border and control some of our territory
Speaker 5: and in criminal networks within the United States, but they're
Speaker 5: having a seat at the table politically now. They've got
Speaker 5: so much money that there's no doubt in most people's
Speaker 5: mind that have studied Arizona, for instance, that the transformation
Speaker 5: of Arizona is largely has come in part by the
Speaker 5: massive amounts of money that are coming in through the
Speaker 5: cartel to the drug trafficking and human trafficking. It's just
Speaker 5: huge amounts of money, and they want to protect their franchise, right,
Speaker 5: So what do they do.
Speaker 4: They buy politicians. It's not hard to understand.
Speaker 6: No, uh.
Speaker 2: And at the same time, Arizona still seems to be
Speaker 2: one of those states that may buck the trend of
Speaker 2: all of this incursion.
Speaker 7: They you know, they really had both thrown on steroids
Speaker 7: during twenty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Scott, your your phone just decided to not work
Speaker 2: all of a sudden.
Speaker 6: Really, you know, now you're back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you mentioned twenty twenty two and carry Lake.
Speaker 2: What was supposed to be a red the red wave
Speaker 2: in Congress that turned out it was.
Speaker 4: But you know what, you know, God's still in charge.
Speaker 4: He's on a throne.
Speaker 6: Amen.
Speaker 5: And the things that have happened in the past, sometimes
Speaker 5: we don't understand them, but they set up the positive
Speaker 5: move that God really has in mind. Let's hope that
Speaker 5: that's carry Lake being elected Senator from Arizona because in
Speaker 5: many ways having her in the Senate could be more
Speaker 5: important than having her as governor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned about in this piece. You mentioned about
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris being anointed and replacing Joe Biden without a
Speaker 2: single vote cast for her, and my friend Rick Robinson,
Speaker 2: who wrote a book called nineteen sixty eight, said that.
Speaker 6: There's a similarity there.
Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty eight, and may be the only one
Speaker 2: is that Hubert Humphrey did not win one single primary
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty eight and yet was the Democrat's banner
Speaker 2: carrier as their presidential candidate in that election. So it
Speaker 2: has happened before that someone did not get a vote
Speaker 2: in a primary or did not win the primary election
Speaker 2: or the nomination.
Speaker 4: By Humphrey was on the ballot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was. He was on the ballot, rightamalo Wa.
Speaker 5: There was no primary vote for Kamala Harris, no, none.
Speaker 2: No voting, And that's another Banana Republic kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But I think there's there's reason for great hope.
Speaker 5: And you know, despite the challenges we face, we should
Speaker 5: never forget that God has the power to remove corrupt
Speaker 5: leaders and defeat evil. And I suggest that everyone go
Speaker 5: back to the Book of Psalms. There's so much wisdom
Speaker 5: in there. But the Psalms ninety four to twenty three
Speaker 5: reminds us that quote He has brought back their wickedness
Speaker 5: upon them and will destroy them in their evil, And
Speaker 5: that sort of describes what's happening to the other side
Speaker 5: right now. They're almost self destructing. And then some goes
Speaker 5: on to say, the Lord, our God will destroy them.
Speaker 5: So is that happening could be. But we're also reminded
Speaker 5: in the New Testament, in the Gospel of Luke, that
Speaker 5: everything can be reversed, that God has the ability to
Speaker 5: you know, to make the last first and the first last.
Speaker 5: That is to say that we could have a reversal
Speaker 5: where the people in power, who are considered to be
Speaker 5: sort of they're the politicians, they know they're the first. No,
Speaker 5: the people are really the first, and that the people
Speaker 5: are going to have a bigger voice now than ever
Speaker 5: before in this election, and that we're going to have
Speaker 5: a government that reflects the people's wishes. That would just
Speaker 5: be the greatest blessing that we could get out of
Speaker 5: this election.
Speaker 2: Scott Powell, in your piece in the town hall that
Speaker 2: we're referencing here, you also talk about the existence of
Speaker 2: over seven hundred detention camps built across the country. I
Speaker 2: thought that was a wild conspiracy theory for a while,
Speaker 2: but it's actually the truth. And over the last twenty
Speaker 2: years they've built these detention centers to provide quote, national
Speaker 2: essential functions in the event of a catastrophic emergency under
Speaker 2: the control of the President and DHS, of which FEMA
Speaker 2: is a part. These have been used sporadically in response
Speaker 2: to national disasters or natural disasters, but there are plenty
Speaker 2: of groups out there pointing the likelihood that these facilities
Speaker 2: being used to detain American citizens for resistance and allege
Speaker 2: crimes against the state. That's more Banana Republic stuff is
Speaker 2: not if it's true.
Speaker 5: It you know, I don't you know, I'm just repeating
Speaker 5: what I've heard from people.
Speaker 4: That I respect and trust.
Speaker 5: But I I I can't really, you know, we just
Speaker 5: there are things we just don't know. We'd have to
Speaker 5: be insiders to know. And and that's why the free press,
Speaker 5: you know, our freedom of speech is so important that
Speaker 5: any incursion or rollback of our ability to speak freely
Speaker 5: should you know, it is alarming and must be resisted
Speaker 5: because it's only through a robust competition of ideas of
Speaker 5: reporting about things that we really get to the truth.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, the evil.
Speaker 5: Evil grows and expands in darkness. So think of you know,
Speaker 5: think of the press as.
Speaker 4: Being the light. We want to shine the light.
Speaker 5: And unfortunately we have a largely corrupt mainstream press now
Speaker 5: that simply won't cover things, cover certain topics and then
Speaker 5: has a preference for covering others. But I think it's
Speaker 5: all changing. You know, you just have the rise of
Speaker 5: this alternative media now and you're really in that vanguard. Gary, Jeff,
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I want to tell all your
Speaker 5: listeners right now that you know, having done a lot
Speaker 5: of talk shows across the country, that there are very
Speaker 5: few who are as gifted is Gary Jeff Walker. So
Speaker 5: and his success depends upon listenership. So let's grow his
Speaker 5: listenership because as his listenership grows and is, the advertising
Speaker 5: revenues grow and the business model works better. So get
Speaker 5: all your friends and family to listen to Gary Jeff.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Scott Powell. And by the way, if
Speaker 2: you've never gotten a copy of Rediscovering America, look for that.
Speaker 2: Scott Powell is the author and it is It says
Speaker 2: so much about what can be, what has been, and
Speaker 2: what can be again in this country. And with just
Speaker 2: a week left before the final day to vote, get
Speaker 2: out there and vote. And we would encourage everyone because
Speaker 2: the bigger the turnout, the better the results for the
Speaker 2: most of us. I believe, yes, I agree, all right, Scott,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time this evening. God
Speaker 2: bless you. Anyway, we continue on the night cap and
Speaker 2: still to come, Frank Lassie, John O'Connor, Douglas, Ernest Bianca
Speaker 2: de la Garza and the wild Man. Of those I
Speaker 2: just listed, you probably only know the wild Man find
Speaker 2: out about the rest in minutes on seven hundred WLW
Speaker 2: about the green energy the goras President Trump calls it
Speaker 2: the green new scam. This is along the lines of
Speaker 2: that discussion, I believe, although we haven't had the discussion yet,
Speaker 2: he is standing by the author of Climate and Energy Lies, Expensive, dangerous,
Speaker 2: and destructive, that author, Frank Less, and he joins us
Speaker 2: tonight on the Nightcap. Frank, how are you doing, And
Speaker 2: it's great to have you on the show.
Speaker 8: Well, thanks for having me on, and I'm fantastic and
Speaker 8: I hope everyone out there listening is as well.
Speaker 2: So what is your background number one when it comes
Speaker 2: to energy and climate?
Speaker 6: What did you know and when did you know it?
Speaker 8: Frank Well, I was in the Wisconsin legislature for a
Speaker 8: number of years, served as a Wisconsin Senator and then
Speaker 8: Governor Walker's administration, and I went probably by it's a
Speaker 8: long time ago now, a couple decades ago. I went
Speaker 8: to a couple of full day senators or a seminar,
Speaker 8: a full day seminar for legislators talking about climate change
Speaker 8: and getting the facts with some really knowledgeable people about it.
Speaker 8: And I remember coming away from that because actually we've
Speaker 8: been warming out of the Little Ice Age, and the
Speaker 8: climate scamsters and media propagandists of you know, sell us
Speaker 8: on it. It's warmer than the pre industrial times, as
Speaker 8: at pre industrial times were somehow magical and life was
Speaker 8: hard for most humans pre industrial times, and we died
Speaker 8: before forty on average because life was hard. And the
Speaker 8: Little Ice Age was a cold period that's well documented
Speaker 8: around the world from about thirteen fifty to eighteen fifty,
Speaker 8: and then we've been warming out of it ever since,
Speaker 8: and glaciers have been generally retreating since then. And I
Speaker 8: remember seeing all these facts of wow, this, you know,
Speaker 8: they're telling us things that just aren't true. And then
Speaker 8: I came back into the legislature and I talked to
Speaker 8: people in interest groups and various ones and say, you know,
Speaker 8: we got to stop this stuff. And they said, well,
Speaker 8: what legislation is there to react to, and there wasn't
Speaker 8: very much. But it's all been done through slowly constricting
Speaker 8: regulations in Biden and Harris to put these regulations just
Speaker 8: on steroids, and people are going to be you know,
Speaker 8: if we don't change directions, you're going to be very surprised.
Speaker 8: They've had literally tens of thousands dollars to cost the
Speaker 8: new houses in the future just two or three years.
Speaker 8: They put it off because they don't want to happen immediately,
Speaker 8: because they're adding more efficiency standards to our already our
Speaker 8: dishwashers take two and a half hours to complete. You've
Speaker 8: got to rense everything in advance, and still you might
Speaker 8: have to put things through again. They want to make
Speaker 8: those even more efficient somehow, and they're literally everything. When
Speaker 8: you have a hot water heater that's going to wear
Speaker 8: out because they last ten to fifteen years on average.
Speaker 8: Right in the future, if we don't change directions, you
Speaker 8: can't just spend less than one thousand dollars placing your
Speaker 8: water heater. No, you're going to get a heat water
Speaker 8: heat pump water heater that's going to cost you three
Speaker 8: to five thousand dollars. Rude awakening on a lot of
Speaker 8: these different issues, and it's all for not really. So
Speaker 8: even if I'm wrong and others who I would say
Speaker 8: our climate realists are wrong and it is CO two
Speaker 8: heating the earth, well, what about China and India that
Speaker 8: we don't really talk about that are you know, literally
Speaker 8: building thousand, one thousand coal plants that last forty to
Speaker 8: seventy five years, and that you know, India gets seventy
Speaker 8: five percent of all of their energy, not just electricity,
Speaker 8: all their energy from coal. China gets fifty six percent
Speaker 8: from coal. And they're both building lots of coal plants,
Speaker 8: and the rest of the world that isn't in the
Speaker 8: twenty nine industrialized nations. I'm throwing China in that mix.
Speaker 8: They're wanted to move two billion people want to move
Speaker 8: off of burning wood and dung for cooking and heating
Speaker 8: their homes onto other things. And our leftist in the
Speaker 8: West answers, well, just wait for wind and soil or someday,
Speaker 8: don't build a coal plant that can give you reliable,
Speaker 8: affordable energy. No, no, no, not that, but you just
Speaker 8: keep burning that wood and dung. I mean, there's so
Speaker 8: much craziness with it. But the point is, even if
Speaker 8: I were wrong and CO two is causing me, which
Speaker 8: is just prepared for it because we're not stopping emissions.
Speaker 8: China has more real pollution and more CO two emissions
Speaker 8: than all industrial nations combined.
Speaker 2: And they are not observing any protocols from the UN
Speaker 2: or Kyoto or the Paris Climate Accords. They're not observing
Speaker 2: any of those protocols that the West is being subjected to,
Speaker 2: and we're being told that we have to do if
Speaker 2: we want to save the planet, that the coastal cities
Speaker 2: will all be underwater very soon. I've seen the data
Speaker 2: frank On Gregory from Gregory Rightstone at the CO two Coalition.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you're familiar with their work.
Speaker 2: They do great work, provide actual data on what's actually
Speaker 2: going on with CO two and the climate and global temperatures.
Speaker 2: And a man named Steve Gorum who's written several books
Speaker 2: on energy and climate, and he's a fantastic guest. You're
Speaker 2: right in line with these folks. But i'd love is
Speaker 2: the title of your book, Climate and Energy lies Expensive,
Speaker 2: dangerous and destructive. You talked about the expensive part a
Speaker 2: little bit when it comes to the heat pump water
Speaker 2: heater that you may be mandated to buy instead of
Speaker 2: your regular water heater. As you mentioned that, you know
Speaker 2: it goes for around eight hundred do one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: and then if you've got a if you've got a
Speaker 2: brother in law who can install it, then that's that's
Speaker 2: your cost. Maybe a slice of pizza to the advanced
Speaker 2: heat pump water heater you were talking about, to three
Speaker 2: to five thousand dollars gas stoves. Clean natural gas is
Speaker 2: being targeted, and we have all of this liquid natural
Speaker 2: gas underneath our feet in America. And the President Trump
Speaker 2: has made it very clear that upon being re elected,
Speaker 2: if he is, that all these mandates that were again
Speaker 2: done by executive order and by agencies, not by elected
Speaker 2: officials or the president as an elected official just wielding
Speaker 2: unbelievable tyrannical power with executive orders. But President Trump has
Speaker 2: said from the get that we are going to drill, drill, drill.
Speaker 2: We're not going to put the restrictions that have been
Speaker 2: put on by the Biden Harris administration, for example in
Speaker 2: fracking and in offshore drilling and on federal land and
Speaker 2: all of the things that have been done to reverse
Speaker 2: the Trump energy policies. We should be okay, we should
Speaker 2: come out of the woods. All right if that occurs.
Speaker 2: But let's talk about we talked about the expensive, let's
Speaker 2: talk about the dangerous part of this.
Speaker 8: Well, what's dangerous is having unreliable electricity. And that's what
Speaker 8: wind and solar are giving us. Because they're both very
Speaker 8: part time I'm anybody who has a solar panel or noses,
Speaker 8: and I have a little fountain out in front of
Speaker 8: my house. They don't produce any or very little electricity
Speaker 8: the first hour and last hour of the day, when
Speaker 8: it's very cloudy, when it's raining, when it's snowing, when
Speaker 8: there's bad weather, so they produce no electricity. Then the
Speaker 8: wind towers only produce electricity when the wind's blowing, and
Speaker 8: the wind is not blowing a wopping seventy percent of
Speaker 8: the time. And right now I'm looking out my window
Speaker 8: and I can see the trees are just plain still,
Speaker 8: so there's no wind here now. So what happens is is,
Speaker 8: in order to have full time electricity, we have to
Speaker 8: have on demand electric plants, which are natural gas, coal,
Speaker 8: and nuclear power with some hydro electric built into there.
Speaker 8: But that's a small proportion. We've kind of built that
Speaker 8: all out. So by adding wind and solar to our
Speaker 8: electric grid, our electric grid is getting far more expensive.
Speaker 8: That's one of those other big allyes about the expense
Speaker 8: that somehow wind and solar is free and they'll be
Speaker 8: cheaper all time. And the way I help regular people
Speaker 8: understand it, so you could tell somebody else to help
Speaker 8: them make the connection is you got your gas car,
Speaker 8: and then the government says, you know, you could buy
Speaker 8: a solar car so you don't have to use your
Speaker 8: gas car, and it only works like with solar panels,
Speaker 8: so it only works when the sun shining. So you
Speaker 8: buy that and the government pays thirty percent for you
Speaker 8: to buy it and thirty percent rebate on every mile
Speaker 8: you drive with it, because that's what we're giving to
Speaker 8: wind and solar with all those huge, massive subsidies, they
Speaker 8: wouldn't exist. Now you're paying for two cars. Car costs
Speaker 8: just went up a lot. Then you buy a wind
Speaker 8: powered car because the solar is not working very well,
Speaker 8: and they say, well, you know when it's not the
Speaker 8: sun isn't shining, the wind will be blowing, so you
Speaker 8: can drive that car. Then you find out you can't
Speaker 8: take it to the soccer game or it will work
Speaker 8: because the wind might not be blowing in the afternoon
Speaker 8: or at the end of the game. So now you've
Speaker 8: got three cars. And to make the analogy more fitting
Speaker 8: to what's going on with the electric grid is you
Speaker 8: can't turn off coal and natural gas very easily or
Speaker 8: turn them down and produce nothing. With them, so they
Speaker 8: run and spin reserve. So you have these billion dollar
Speaker 8: plants and the real cost is in the capital costs
Speaker 8: of paying for the darn thing and the people that
Speaker 8: have to run it. They have to be there all
Speaker 8: the time, and then you have to keep it idling.
Speaker 8: The industry calls it spending reserve, so they're making they're
Speaker 8: keeping it running because you've got to ramp it up
Speaker 8: whenever whenever the wind and solar aren't operating, which is frequently.
Speaker 8: So now to make that analogy with the car, the
Speaker 8: same you have to leave your car and your garage
Speaker 8: idling all the time because you have to jump in
Speaker 8: it to rescue the other cars where they can't perform.
Speaker 8: It's crazy world, and it's really expensive, and it's even
Speaker 8: worse because it's inflation causing from the fact that we're
Speaker 8: spending money we don't have, so we're borrowing money adding
Speaker 8: to our thirty five trillion dollar national debt. We're adding
Speaker 8: more money to a trillion dollar year interest payments on
Speaker 8: that debt now, and then worse, we're buying eighty percent
Speaker 8: of the things I just mentioned, including electric batteries for
Speaker 8: cars and all the stuff that goes in electric batteries
Speaker 8: from the communist Chinese who are using it to grow
Speaker 8: their economy at our expense and grow their military to
Speaker 8: confront us. And they are international bullies, and they are
Speaker 8: totalitarians at home controlling their own people. And they're the
Speaker 8: low cost providers why because they use cheap, reliable coal energy.
Speaker 8: They have a million people locked up and are using
Speaker 8: them for slave labor, and their labor costs are much
Speaker 8: much lower. And they have very few environmental protection laws
Speaker 8: and use a lot of acids and bad chemicals and
Speaker 8: have a lot of waste when you process lithium and
Speaker 8: cobalt to make those batteries, and they actually have to
Speaker 8: go into some of that and goes into wind and
Speaker 8: solar as well. And they are the low cost provider
Speaker 8: and will be for a number of years, and they
Speaker 8: can undercut all of the market. So we're adding to
Speaker 8: inflation by not only making our energy costs more expensive.
Speaker 8: That add for inflation because and food inflation in particular,
Speaker 8: because you've got to use a lot of energy to
Speaker 8: plant that harvested, process it, cool it, bring it to
Speaker 8: our houses, bring it to the grocery store. The grocery
Speaker 8: storess keep it and cool it, and then we use
Speaker 8: it at home and we cook it with our own energy.
Speaker 8: All those things get built into the costs of everything
Speaker 8: we buy, so we have inflation on the energy level.
Speaker 8: And Trump understands this. If we have a lot more
Speaker 8: energy available, well things will cost less. And if we
Speaker 8: stop this crazy borrowing and adding to our thirty five
Speaker 8: trillion national debt, that will also have an anti inflationary effect.
Speaker 8: So those things prices will start to come down again.
Speaker 8: But if we elect Harris, which you know, if that
Speaker 8: should happen, I'm really concerned we won't recognize our country
Speaker 8: in four years. But she is even worse than Biden
Speaker 8: on these issues. That's how we won't talk about them
Speaker 8: because people don't want to be forced into an electric car.
Speaker 1: You really expensive, Frank.
Speaker 2: All you need to know about Kamala Harris is that
Speaker 2: her values haven't changed. So all of the double talk
Speaker 2: and the backtracking her campaign has given us on her
Speaker 2: radical views that she has publicly stated. She's on record
Speaker 2: saying things that no one in America would vote for,
Speaker 2: and even Democrats didn't vote for in the twenty twenty primary.
Speaker 2: That's why she dropped out and was appointed vice president.
Speaker 2: But her values haven't changed. Just remembered that when you
Speaker 2: go to the post.
Speaker 8: Directly from her, she's directly from her. She said that,
Speaker 8: And you know, she's got the endorsement of every single
Speaker 8: green crazy group out there, some of which wouldn't even
Speaker 8: endorse Biden because he wasn't extreme enough, so they with
Speaker 8: held their endorsement from Biden, but they've given it to Harris.
Speaker 8: But she isn't talking about these issues. So what do
Speaker 8: they know that they're hiding from the rest of us
Speaker 8: Because the rest of us, as you pointed out, we
Speaker 8: wouldn't vote for this, We wouldn't vote to be forced
Speaker 8: into electric cars. And what's even worse about electric cars,
Speaker 8: there's a larger globalist agenda with this is they want
Speaker 8: to force and make elections, regular cars too expensive for
Speaker 8: regular people to drive. They want to limit our freedoms.
Speaker 8: They want to make energy, energy, and food prices really
Speaker 8: expensive so they can ration them and control all of us.
Speaker 8: Do those rations each ev there's a great study by
Speaker 8: the Texas Public Policy Foundation tpp APP and you can.
Speaker 1: Find it online about.
Speaker 8: The real costs of the subsidies of electric vehicles. And
Speaker 8: they're making multi billion, like four or five billion dollar
Speaker 8: transfer payments from Ford and GM and other gas car
Speaker 8: makers because they have outrageous mile per gallon standards, so
Speaker 8: they have to buy credits from Tesla and other EV
Speaker 8: makers in the tune of billions of dollars. So we're
Speaker 8: paying thousands of dollars more for every single gas.
Speaker 7: Car we buy.
Speaker 8: And because new cars cost more, used cars cost more.
Speaker 8: So they're screwing the regular guy every which way, and
Speaker 8: most of us have no idea and would just be
Speaker 8: upset if we understood this.
Speaker 6: Well, Frank.
Speaker 2: The other thing that's also very dangerous in this discussion,
Speaker 2: and you mentioned forcing people to buy these evs, the
Speaker 2: electric vehicles not only are not internal combustion engines, which
Speaker 2: we have readily available sources for, they run on lithium
Speaker 2: batteries which have proved to be very volatile yet at
Speaker 2: this stage of their development, if they catch fire, you
Speaker 2: can't put them out. They just have to burn out.
Speaker 2: If it's cold and you can't charge them on a
Speaker 2: winter's day, could be you could be frozen somewhere, stranded
Speaker 2: in a minus thirty degree windshill on some highway out
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere because there's no place to
Speaker 2: charge your ev And here's the most dangerous part to me.
Speaker 2: When you talk about trying to restrict people's movement and
Speaker 2: make regular cars too expensive for the plain old folks
Speaker 2: like you and me to buy. Here's the other part,
Speaker 2: and this is with internal combustion engines, with evs, With
Speaker 2: any modern car today, it is a rolling computer on
Speaker 2: wheels that can be controlled remotely from somewhere. If they
Speaker 2: don't like your freedom of movement in one direction or another,
Speaker 2: how easy would it be for them just kill the engine,
Speaker 2: or to turn your engine into your car into a
Speaker 2: weapon if a terrorist cyber attack occurred.
Speaker 8: They do this in China now. They control people's movement
Speaker 8: through their telephone use and they give them a citizenship's
Speaker 8: course for lack of a better word. And if you're
Speaker 8: a good little commi, then you have a high score
Speaker 8: and you can do what you want. You can borrow money,
Speaker 8: you can buy things from the grocery store, you can
Speaker 8: drive your car, you can take buses. But if you're
Speaker 8: not or if you criticize the regime at all, and
Speaker 8: it's sound familiar here about sizing the regime that's power,
Speaker 8: then they're going to control you and make you. You
Speaker 8: can't borrow money, you can't. They even go so far
Speaker 8: as to not let you use the internet or watch
Speaker 8: Netflix or their version of it. You can't play video
Speaker 8: games even if your score gets too low. So they're
Speaker 8: out to control people. And there are people here on
Speaker 8: the left that think that's a good idea and they
Speaker 8: should do that to all of us. But their agenda
Speaker 8: of making cars, and back to the electric vehicles, if
Speaker 8: we stop selling gas cars, the electric vehicle prices with skyrocket,
Speaker 8: they would be thirty forty thousand dollars more expensive than
Speaker 8: they are now, and they have the resale value. Just
Speaker 8: playing sucks. And then you're talking about the dangerous part
Speaker 8: of it. There are more and more reports coming out all.
Speaker 9: Around the world now.
Speaker 8: Taiwan just had nine electric buses catch on fire and burn, burn, burn,
Speaker 8: and that burning is like releases terrible caustic, bad chemicals
Speaker 8: on people. There is a fire fire, new fire, brand
Speaker 8: new fire station with a brand new electric truck in
Speaker 8: it in Germany that burned to the ground because that
Speaker 8: bus is caught on fire. These fires are happening all
Speaker 8: over their reports after the two hurricanes are very susceptible
Speaker 8: to saltwater flooding. If those batteries get flooded and wet.
Speaker 8: Then there's been literally several dozen spontaneous electric fires from
Speaker 8: electric vehicles. And then think about this and the instance
Speaker 8: of hurricanes. One of those twenty seven million people that
Speaker 8: live in Florida, and you know, a couple million wanted
Speaker 8: to evacuate and get out of the eye of the hurricane.
Speaker 8: They could all charge their electric vehicles at once.
Speaker 9: I think not.
Speaker 1: Then they get on the road and.
Speaker 8: Spend multi hours on that road, and then they're they're
Speaker 8: running out of electricity for their car. Well, they could
Speaker 8: stop someplace and charge it up. And even if there
Speaker 8: were a lot of chargers, and you know, the Biden regime,
Speaker 8: by the way, spend I think seven billion dollars to
Speaker 8: build maybe a dozen stations around the country.
Speaker 2: Frank, Frank, listen, I'm sorry, we're running out of time,
Speaker 2: and this, this conversation deserves so much more more time
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Speaker 6: I got it, brother, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: This is the nightcap on seven hundred WLW want to
Speaker 2: be October the twenty eighth. We are just eight days
Speaker 2: away from election day, and we got one of the
Speaker 2: great legal minds who actually puts himself out there to talk,
Speaker 2: a former federal prosecutor and author of books like The
Speaker 2: Mysteries of Watergate, What Really Happened and Postgate, How the
Speaker 2: Washington Post betrayed deep Throat, covered up Watergate, and began
Speaker 2: today's partisan advocacy journalism.
Speaker 6: And that's the key right there, is that.
Speaker 2: Journalism hasn't been said by others is dead as it
Speaker 2: used to be known, as far as an objective point
Speaker 2: of view, as far as looking at all sides of
Speaker 2: a story and reporting the facts. Only we don't have
Speaker 2: that anymore, mostly in American media. And this is not
Speaker 2: I don't advertise this as.
Speaker 6: A news show. This is a talk show.
Speaker 2: We like to think that we bring news and bring
Speaker 2: things to people's attention in our reporting and our interviews,
Speaker 2: but this is a commentary show. You know where I
Speaker 2: stand if you listen at all to this show, you
Speaker 2: know where I am politically, on the political side of
Speaker 2: which isle. You know that I'm a Donald Trump supporter.
Speaker 6: You know that I.
Speaker 2: Espouse conservative so called values as opposed to the woke.
Speaker 2: But news departments all over this country, media departments in
Speaker 2: under the guise of news, have been reporting things that
Speaker 2: are not facts. They're just reporting their ideas and their
Speaker 2: side of facts. You maybe get one side of the
Speaker 2: story if you're lucky. John O'Connor is the man I'm
Speaker 2: talking about, and he joins us now to talk about
Speaker 2: election twenty twenty four and so much more.
Speaker 6: Good evening, John, how are you hey, Great to be
Speaker 6: with you. Sorry for that rambling intro, but.
Speaker 2: It's no makes sense.
Speaker 6: Great to have you with us again.
Speaker 2: And I uh, I want to say first off that
Speaker 2: in our last conversation about Postgate and the conversation we've
Speaker 2: had in the books you've done really really have been enlightening.
Speaker 2: And what has gone on since you are a former
Speaker 2: federal prosecutor and you studied these legal issues your entire life.
Speaker 2: But what has the Biden Harris DOJ been like when
Speaker 2: it comes to it hearing the Constitution and to actually
Speaker 2: making you feel like you've got a system that works
Speaker 2: for everybody.
Speaker 9: Well, I'm a little disappointed, and I guess I would
Speaker 9: say I'm greatly disappointed at when I was in the
Speaker 9: US Attorney's ofuficin San Francisco, you couldn't tell who was
Speaker 9: a Republican, who is a Democrat, or how the how
Speaker 9: the office lean That's just not what we did, and
Speaker 9: we would be ashamed if political leanings came out. Now
Speaker 9: what we've got is a Justice Department that I'm afraid
Speaker 9: it's like so many other institutions in our society, it's
Speaker 9: gone toward the you know, toward the partisan. Everybody has
Speaker 9: to be a partisan. And you see that in the
Speaker 9: last election where the FBI, and this is stunning because
Speaker 9: the FBI was always so straight and then in the
Speaker 9: last election, having had hunter Byder's laptop Biden's laptop for
Speaker 9: two years, and knowing that it was real and having
Speaker 9: verified the serial number, FBI just went to Silicon Valley
Speaker 9: and told everybody it was Russian disinformation. Now think about
Speaker 9: that one. This is an investigative agency that's not supposed
Speaker 9: to be taking part in politics. And that's what Jay
Speaker 9: gar Hoover was so famous for was nobody pushed him
Speaker 9: around and nobody got him to bend the FBI to
Speaker 9: its partisan will. Now we have people doing this kind
Speaker 9: of stuff just blatantly, and John Brennan and the CIA
Speaker 9: going out and blatantly being political and telling things in
Speaker 9: saying things that aren't true, decidedly not true. And it's
Speaker 9: been an infection. And it starts with the media. The
Speaker 9: media did this. And once you see that, the media
Speaker 9: is always going to go one way, and it's always
Speaker 9: going to portray one side and cover up all sins.
Speaker 9: If you're on one side of the fence, the natural
Speaker 9: tendency is to get on that side, to get on
Speaker 9: the side that you're never going to get criticized. And
Speaker 9: I might say this even as to sexual harassment, I
Speaker 9: think until just recently, maybe until Harvey Weinstein's case, there
Speaker 9: was always thought that if you're on the good old
Speaker 9: democratic side and you contributed to Democrats and so if
Speaker 9: what you can get away of a sexual harassment, whereas
Speaker 9: no conservative could. Uh And and so this has infected everything.
Speaker 9: It's infected the universities, it's infected. It starts with the media,
Speaker 9: is what I would say. But it gets to the universities,
Speaker 9: it gets to the uh, institutions of government. And it's
Speaker 9: really sort of sad. And now here we are here,
Speaker 9: we are in an election where the main statements by
Speaker 9: one political party is that the other side fascist. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that's and that's being reported as if there was some
Speaker 9: factual basis for it. Uh And and it's just it's
Speaker 9: it's just silly.
Speaker 2: Well, they're there's citing things that uh that John Kelly
Speaker 2: purportedly said about President Trump back in when he was
Speaker 2: for a short time chief of staff, uh that Trump
Speaker 2: said Hitler had had some good generals. I need generals
Speaker 2: like Himler had, or something to that effect. But you understand, John,
Speaker 2: that the left has been doing this for decades. They
Speaker 2: have been throwing out the Hitler card and the fascist
Speaker 2: card about conservatives. You know, they attacked Ronald Reagan in
Speaker 2: the same way, this is not anything that's new.
Speaker 6: It's just gotten.
Speaker 2: More and more and more poisoned as time has gone along,
Speaker 2: as it's been more accepted that the media is just
Speaker 2: going to be a cheerleader for the left and the
Speaker 2: Democrats and be a scold for Republicans and conservatives. That
Speaker 2: is seemingly because they said it about John McCain. They
Speaker 2: said it about Mitt Romney, for Lord's sake, that he
Speaker 2: was Hitler. So this is nothing new. This is a
Speaker 2: page out of their old playbook. But as you mentioned,
Speaker 2: some people just not along anyway to the drive by
Speaker 2: media claims that Trump is a fascist or Hitler or
Speaker 2: Stalin and Mussolini all rolled into one, as the one
Speaker 2: writer in The Atlantic did, and you kind of just
Speaker 2: look at it after a while. In it, I don't
Speaker 2: think it moves the needle of rings hollow at all.
Speaker 2: The danger, of course, and this has been pointed out
Speaker 2: by Republicans and people of the Trump campaign. The danger
Speaker 2: is it inspires these kind of whack jobs like you
Speaker 2: saw in Butler Pennsylvania, or the guy that was you know,
Speaker 2: just off the golf course done to mar A Lago,
Speaker 2: to do something that they ordinarily may not be triggered
Speaker 2: to do capiece.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, a couple of thoughts there. First of all, you
Speaker 9: notice that the FBI is not releasing documents that might
Speaker 9: show the motivation of the Butler PA shooter. And we
Speaker 9: know what those documents are going to show. But guess what,
Speaker 9: they don't tell us what they show. They give us
Speaker 9: a few little tidbits that have nothing to do with
Speaker 9: the guy's ideological underpinning, but they don't tell us how
Speaker 9: the guy was influenced because I'm sure we know what
Speaker 9: would happen if they did do that, And it really
Speaker 9: is silly. And you know something, I think if the
Speaker 9: funny thing about all this fascist stuff is that, you know,
Speaker 9: the reason you try to connect this case Trump before that,
Speaker 9: you know, Reagan and so forth and so on and
Speaker 9: then Bush is because it ties them to mass murders
Speaker 9: and taking over foreign countries. That's the reason you do it,
Speaker 9: because that's the bad implications of it. Well, we know
Speaker 9: that's not true. Nobody really believes that anybody's going to
Speaker 9: do what Hitler did, So what is the purpose of
Speaker 9: comparing someone to Hitler? Well, if you look at Hitler's policies,
Speaker 9: they're very progressive there.
Speaker 8: He's a socialist.
Speaker 9: He was into he was into government control, abortion, euthanasia,
Speaker 9: old age pensions, all sorts of things. And I'm not
Speaker 9: going to argue with him, and that are all very
Speaker 9: much lefty positions. Uh, that was that was hit He
Speaker 9: was He was against organized religion and so forth. So
Speaker 9: if you look at his policies, they're they're as they
Speaker 9: as you would expect of a national socialist. They were socialistic. Now,
Speaker 9: the fact that he ruled with an iron fist and
Speaker 9: so first so did Stalin and he's a lefty. So
Speaker 9: that's the odd thing about it is they're calling the
Speaker 9: pott is calling the kettle black, and uh, you know,
Speaker 9: and it's just sort of odd. And it's also very
Speaker 9: grade schoolish. They're avoiding any real substantive debate over issues.
Speaker 9: Why because they can't win on any issues. Well, but
Speaker 9: the only issue they've got is abortion.
Speaker 2: Yes, when when you look at what the Justin Biden
Speaker 2: Harris administration, and I'm not calling Joe Biden Hitler or
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris at or Ava Brown or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but when you look at the Biden administration and what
Speaker 2: they have done in their three and a half years,
Speaker 2: specifically to conservatives and to President Trump. I mean, they
Speaker 2: have tried to jail their opponent. They have prosecuted, persecuted,
Speaker 2: and prosecuted wrongly, I would say, in almost all cases
Speaker 2: their political opponent. And that is something Hitler wouldn't have
Speaker 2: stood for any kind of challenge to him in Nazi Germany.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't and you know when that happened, those people
Speaker 2: were executed on the spot. I mean, if you want
Speaker 2: to talk about anybody looking like a fascist in this
Speaker 2: country in the current political scope, you've got to point
Speaker 2: the finger at what the Biden administration has done through
Speaker 2: their Department of Justice, through the Department of Homeland Security,
Speaker 2: through all of the agencies that are under the executive branch,
Speaker 2: and the executive orders, which have in essence taken power
Speaker 2: out of the hands of the people and giving it
Speaker 2: to Washington and corporate Washington.
Speaker 9: Yes, that's right, and think about little things like the
Speaker 9: I say little things like the when Muller was making
Speaker 9: a lot of arrests.
Speaker 5: In the.
Speaker 9: During the Trump administration, what would they do. They would
Speaker 9: have the FBI agent's dress and paramilitary gear. Oh yeah,
Speaker 9: And when Roger Stone was arrested, it was at dawn,
Speaker 9: a dawn raid, and people there were boats on the
Speaker 9: canal near him, there were helicopters. They made a big
Speaker 9: deal of this police state deal. The FBI would never
Speaker 9: get involved in that in the past. They would say, no,
Speaker 9: we're not a police force. By the way, we're investigators.
Speaker 9: That's number one. We wear suits, we don't wear paramilitary gear.
Speaker 9: That's number one. And number two, we're not going to
Speaker 9: politicize anything. But that's not what has happened. And you
Speaker 9: think about that now. These FBI agents say love getting
Speaker 9: dressed in tactical gear. They're not soldiers, they're investigators. And
Speaker 9: the old time FBI agents who I am in touch
Speaker 9: with constantly, they are repulsed by this. They hate it.
Speaker 9: They see what's happened. They've been politicized. But everybody's been politicized.
Speaker 9: Think about campuses. Campuses, you know, the instruction is politicized.
Speaker 9: And it's really too bad because a democracy depends on
Speaker 9: the free exchange of ideas. I don't have to say
Speaker 9: I'm always right. I like to hear from the other
Speaker 9: side because it actually sharpens me. If I find that
Speaker 9: some argument I'm making is incorrect or weak, I should
Speaker 9: change that argument or supplemented or revise it based upon
Speaker 9: the argument of the other side. That's the standard. The
Speaker 9: funny thing about it is the concern of us are
Speaker 9: adopting what is really the standard liberal view of John
Speaker 9: Stuart Mill, who has always been the guy for the ACLU.
Speaker 9: Oh free speech, free argument, free exchange of ideas. That's
Speaker 9: what conservatives adopt today, the classic liberal position. But the
Speaker 9: other side is adopting the more socialistic position of you
Speaker 9: cannot say anything against the interests of the party, or
Speaker 9: we will punish you. And that's the odd thing about it.
Speaker 9: The liberals in this country are really conservative.
Speaker 2: Well, the liberals in this country are really Marxists, I
Speaker 2: mean the term that used to be used for Democrats
Speaker 2: and people on the other side of the conservative aisle. Liberals.
Speaker 2: They're not liberal at all. They're Marxist.
Speaker 6: You're right.
Speaker 2: The conservatives are the new liberals in this environment. But
Speaker 2: the people that you used to call liberals are nothing
Speaker 2: but Marxists, aren't they right?
Speaker 9: Right, they're not liberals at all. No, they're not liberals
Speaker 9: at all. They're very much And the funny thing about
Speaker 9: it is, if you look at it, they really are
Speaker 9: socialist authoritarians. And because every socialist, every socialist regime, can
Speaker 9: only enforce itself by authoritarianism, because you can't get you
Speaker 9: can't hurt all the cats. Socialism depends on everybody marching
Speaker 9: to the same beat, to marching goose steppers order, and
Speaker 9: you can't have that in a democracy. The two are
Speaker 9: not consistent with one another, but they try to do it,
Speaker 9: and they try to enforce it. And guess what happens
Speaker 9: when somebody tries to step out of line. The state
Speaker 9: media comes in and tries to punish them, and they
Speaker 9: look on with approval when the Justice Department punishes them.
Speaker 9: Think about the teachers in different places that are trying
Speaker 9: to not teachers, but the parents who are trying to
Speaker 9: get their classrooms free of bias, and the Justice Department
Speaker 9: goes out and looks for the parents. I mean, that's
Speaker 9: how extreme we have gotten.
Speaker 2: Parents, parents who want their values taught in public schools
Speaker 2: are considered domestic terrorists by this Department of Justice. And
Speaker 2: Garrick Marlin Merrick Garland, the DOJ. By the way, are
Speaker 2: they still deploying district elections officers to handle threats and intimidation?
Speaker 9: John Well, I'll tell you what they're doing. They're going
Speaker 9: to be bringing the Justice Department. It's going to be
Speaker 9: bringing people out to the polls, not to keep the
Speaker 9: polls fair, but to keep the poll watchers from keeping
Speaker 9: things fair. They're out there to run interference for the
Speaker 9: people who are really cheating in this election. And that's
Speaker 9: the scary thing about it. That's what's going to happen
Speaker 9: in this election.
Speaker 2: Is it going to be enough to determine this election?
Speaker 9: John, Well, that's the billion dollar question.
Speaker 1: Yeah much.
Speaker 9: I'm very much afraid of the cheating. We know that
Speaker 9: in both Arizona and Georgia.
Speaker 6: There is legalized cheating.
Speaker 9: In Georgia, you cannot check a signature really on a ballot.
Speaker 9: It cannot met if it doesn't match the registration. Too
Speaker 9: bad that vote gets counted anyway. In Arizona, people can
Speaker 9: vote without proof of citizenship. And how does that happen?
Speaker 2: You know, you know every I looked at the list
Speaker 2: of countries earlier where you have to have a legitimate
Speaker 2: voter ID to vote in the election. It's almost every
Speaker 2: country in the world except federally in the United States.
Speaker 6: You can't demand that in this country. It's all up
Speaker 6: to the states, right.
Speaker 9: Well, that's right, that's right, and it's it's unfortunate, it's
Speaker 9: just unfortunate. But that's what we've got. We've got a
Speaker 9: terrible system here.
Speaker 2: Well, Arizona, Arizona's already come out and their Board of
Speaker 2: Elections has said it's going to be ten to twelve
Speaker 2: days before we know the outcome of the election in Arizona,
Speaker 2: they've already admitted that. And a federal and as federal
Speaker 2: judge telling Glenn Youngkin that he can't he can't take
Speaker 2: non citizens admitted self admitted non citizens off the voting
Speaker 2: roles in Virginia.
Speaker 9: Well, that's a good example of once again we have
Speaker 9: an infection of politics into this. What is the weak
Speaker 9: argument for saying you cannot follow the law? The law
Speaker 9: requires Youngkin to do that. It goes to it stands
Speaker 9: to reason anyway, even if you didn't have a law, yeah,
Speaker 9: you shouldn't have non citizens on the voting role. And
Speaker 9: yet yeah, so what is the court doing jumping in there?
Speaker 9: But yet the court is And that's that's what's terrible,
Speaker 9: because the court has been politicized. You know, the courts
Speaker 9: don't call balls and strikes, at least on the again,
Speaker 9: on the progressive side of things. It's considered cool to
Speaker 9: sort of bend the law in your direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so the strike zone is not universal, it's
Speaker 2: not uniform with balls and strikes being called by our courts. Listen, John,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry we're out of time. I wish we had more.
Speaker 2: Former Federal Product Prosecutor John D O'Connor our guest tonight
Speaker 2: of the Nightcap, and thanks, and hopefully we'll have a
Speaker 2: chance to talk after the election.
Speaker 6: John.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I hope it's a good I hope it's a
Speaker 9: good talk.
Speaker 6: Yeah, me too. We need some good news.
Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, how gooy buddy say it all right?
Speaker 2: It's the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW, eight days away
Speaker 2: from election day, and our involvement in wars in other
Speaker 2: countries continues. I thought it'd be good to have retired
Speaker 2: Captain Douglas j Earn, who is, among other things, and
Speaker 2: he's a lot of different things, uh, the author of
Speaker 2: the Spirit of a True Patriot, the inspiring story of
Speaker 2: Retired Captain Douglas j Ernest. And here he is the
Speaker 2: man himself, the man, the myth legend, Douglas j Ernest.
Speaker 6: Welcome to the Nightcap.
Speaker 10: Well, Gary, my pleasure I appreciate you having me and allowing.
Speaker 3: My voice to be heard for all your listeners.
Speaker 6: You got it.
Speaker 2: So where are you coming from? What part of the
Speaker 2: country in right now, Douglas.
Speaker 10: I'm in the great city of Dallas Fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker 6: Oh, there you go, the Big D, the Big D.
Speaker 2: There's there's no there's no joy in Jerryville, not.
Speaker 3: Not after yesterday's blowout.
Speaker 10: So now, but we're not usually on Monday morning, everybody's
Speaker 10: drinking coffee and talking on to Caro selling the kitchen
Speaker 10: today and nobody's talking.
Speaker 3: Everybody's quite a pretty reserved this morning.
Speaker 2: It's it's tough to be a Cowboys fan these days,
Speaker 2: There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 10: There's more important things on the horizon in our country.
Speaker 3: So I've been trying to stay focused on that.
Speaker 2: As a retired captain, what do you think about some
Speaker 2: of these top generals that are in charge of our
Speaker 2: military and the ones who have been, if not pushing
Speaker 2: going along with all the trans woke nonsense that's been
Speaker 2: injected into our military by by political leaders and by
Speaker 2: political leanings. Uh, do you have any comments on the
Speaker 2: state of our military from the top. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about the enlisted men or women, or the officers,
Speaker 2: the people who are out actually doing the work in
Speaker 2: defending our country, protecting our country and being a shining
Speaker 2: symbol for America in other parts of the world. But
Speaker 2: these guys at the top, they just lost their way
Speaker 2: or what's going on there, Doug, Well, you know.
Speaker 10: That's a great question and something a mixedly versed in
Speaker 10: and something I also wrote about in the book, the
Speaker 10: book The Spirit of the True Patriot that I wrote
Speaker 10: is before I became a military analyst. And I have
Speaker 10: a good friend of mine that is my mentor, who's
Speaker 10: actually a general in the army who stayed in after
Speaker 10: I got out twenty years ago, and he's, you know,
Speaker 10: very non political. He stays out of the mix because
Speaker 10: they can't speak when you're in that position. But when
Speaker 10: you're a soldier in the military, you've got to do
Speaker 10: what you're told. You can't just you know, voice your
Speaker 10: opinion because nobody wants to listen to it and you'll
Speaker 10: get fired. So you have to do whatever they put out.
Speaker 10: The directors come from the top, and that's from the
Speaker 10: executive management leadership of our country, and then it trickles
Speaker 10: down to the tentacles at the Pentagon. He gets put out.
Speaker 10: They're doing what they're told. It doesn't matter if you
Speaker 10: like it or don't like it, you have to do it.
Speaker 10: If we don't have that type of system, you won't
Speaker 10: have a true leadership. You won't be the powerhouse of
Speaker 10: the globe if you don't follow this type of succession
Speaker 10: and management style. Doesn't mean they don't talk offline. And
Speaker 10: most leaders that I've talked to in the military are
Speaker 10: very unhappy with the state of affairs in the military.
Speaker 3: And you can see.
Speaker 10: That with the leadership and you talk to them, and
Speaker 10: you can see it in the recruiting from the military.
Speaker 3: How it's off about.
Speaker 10: Forty percent and I can't fill the ranks even though
Speaker 10: the ranks are so small.
Speaker 3: Compared to where they were twenty thirty years ye.
Speaker 2: Do you think that, for example, do you think a
Speaker 2: general like Mark Milly disagrees with all the woke stuff
Speaker 2: and he's just being a yes man because that's what
Speaker 2: he's directed to do, or is he bought into this.
Speaker 1: I would assume it's both.
Speaker 10: I said, you know, you've men have started out and
Speaker 10: not buying into it. But when your boss is telling them,
Speaker 10: you have to do this, and you believe that you're
Speaker 10: patriotic duty to your country to do what the executive
Speaker 10: leader said, which right now is Joe Biden. You have
Speaker 10: to listen to them, and you have to buy into it.
Speaker 10: I was in the military and did things I didn't
Speaker 10: want to do. I went to war and fired weapons
Speaker 10: in the war, and I didn't want to do it. It
Speaker 10: was against my human values of what i' thought was,
Speaker 10: you know, what was right and wrong in my Christian beliefs.
Speaker 3: But I did it because I was instructed to do it.
Speaker 3: And the same for him.
Speaker 10: I don't know his personal thoughts, and you know, I
Speaker 10: hate to disparage his service because he's been in the
Speaker 10: military for you know, thirty five years and he's served
Speaker 10: in many battlefields. But he has to do what he's told.
Speaker 10: Now if you change the pendulum, and the pendulum swing
Speaker 10: to the other side. Hopefully in eight days when we
Speaker 10: have a change of the leadership of the Guard, hopefully
Speaker 10: that penda will swing and you'll see Mindy smiling and
Speaker 10: doing whatever the new leadership say, if he even able
Speaker 10: to keep his position.
Speaker 3: But right now, the state of leadership in the military
Speaker 3: is in chaos.
Speaker 10: We are right now, you know, fighting wars across the
Speaker 10: globe or interjecting ourselves and these wars that are being
Speaker 10: fought around the globe, we have no you know, sense
Speaker 10: of leadership, CAMARADERIATORI ship. You know, they're doing a lot
Speaker 10: of these. You know, these are experiments in the military.
Speaker 10: They're not even proven principles, theoretical framework methodologies. They're just
Speaker 10: experiments to see if we can interject this type of
Speaker 10: liberal thinking in our military rank and see if it
Speaker 10: would be successful. We haven't gotten a final answer.
Speaker 2: So far.
Speaker 10: It's not been successful because recruiting is down so far,
Speaker 10: the state of the military is so low. We've actually
Speaker 10: swung the military from all the poll You can see
Speaker 10: that military polling has been swung to the Republican side
Speaker 10: even more so.
Speaker 9: It's not worked.
Speaker 3: But it's not over.
Speaker 10: You know, if we do have a Democratic House takeover,
Speaker 10: you know, in eight days, it's going to.
Speaker 3: Get worse and worse and worse and keep evolved into
Speaker 3: one side.
Speaker 10: But Lord Willing, we do have a shift to the
Speaker 10: Republicans in both.
Speaker 3: The Senate and ex give me him.
Speaker 10: The Senate can the executive brands, and that will allow
Speaker 10: some of the tension to be relieved and bring it
Speaker 10: back to some sense of normalcy, if you will.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Douglas j ernest On the Nightcap, author
Speaker 2: of the Spirit of a True Patriot. Number one, what
Speaker 2: inspired you to join the military in the first place?
Speaker 2: And then number two, what inspired you to write the book?
Speaker 10: Oh, you know, a lot of this I talked about
Speaker 10: in my book. You know, I hope your viewers will,
Speaker 10: you know, take a way to donate to a Veterans Causes,
Speaker 10: because my book does.
Speaker 3: All the proceeds and royalties do go to veterans costs.
Speaker 3: That's my admission is to be able to serve veterans.
Speaker 10: It's the name of the book is the Spirit of
Speaker 10: a True Patriot Douglas Harness. You can just search Doudlinsarness
Speaker 10: dot com and find a link to it online. But
Speaker 10: I joined the Army at the age of seventeen in
Speaker 10: order to get college money. I came from from very
Speaker 10: humble background, very tough area in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. When I
Speaker 10: was seventeen, my parents didn't have any money for college.
Speaker 10: There's not any opportunity in.
Speaker 9: This city back then.
Speaker 10: And I found you know, recruiter and family friends and mentors.
Speaker 10: In my family that had served in the military that
Speaker 10: were considered successful, and I started inquiring about the military,
Speaker 10: and they had a program called the Army College Fund,
Speaker 10: which gave you seventeen thousand dollars to go to college
Speaker 10: if you completed two and a half to three years
Speaker 10: of service and a job that most people don't want
Speaker 10: to take, and that's infantry, armor or some type of
Speaker 10: common arms, a combat engineer. So I went to the
Speaker 10: recruiter and found infantry and thought I wanted to be,
Speaker 10: you know, go to airborne school and be in the infantry.
Speaker 10: I signed out not having any idea what I was doing.
Speaker 10: I had no idea what the infantry did. I just
Speaker 10: my version of infantry, what i'd see on what you know,
Speaker 10: in movies that my grandfather would take me to about
Speaker 10: the military. And then later, you know, six months after
Speaker 10: I joined. I joined June thirtieth, nineteen ninety August second,
Speaker 10: thirty three days later, Saddam Hussein invaded the city, the
Speaker 10: Kuwait City, and committed to some of the worst atrocities
Speaker 10: we've seen since World War Two, and that shifted the
Speaker 10: entire military. All the kids I was with, the seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 10: nineteen year old that wasn't with the basic training. We
Speaker 10: were then being trained to go to war. And they
Speaker 10: told us were going to war. They said, you are infantry.
Speaker 10: You are going to be on the battlefield to fight
Speaker 10: against Iraq in the next six months. And they were right,
Speaker 10: because on January second of nineteen ninety one, I was
Speaker 10: deployed to that theater and I was there for seven months,
Speaker 10: and my whole time turning from a boy that was
Speaker 10: to get some college money to a man that wanted
Speaker 10: to serve his country and do what was right in
Speaker 10: the honor of my grandpatents and my uncles that had
Speaker 10: served in Vietnam War. They just transformed me to a patriot.
Speaker 10: I learned what it was to be a patriot. I
Speaker 10: already was an American like everybody else.
Speaker 3: In this country. But I became a patriot. I became a.
Speaker 10: Person that was so involved with my country and doing
Speaker 10: things for the right reason, and transformed my life, not
Speaker 10: only my life as a soldier, but my personal life,
Speaker 10: my health, my wealth, my taking care of myself and
Speaker 10: taking care of thinking, and trying to find a way
Speaker 10: to embrace and make a contribution back to my country
Speaker 10: that was so fortunate to give me the skill sets
Speaker 10: and the benefits that I.
Speaker 3: Had at that time.
Speaker 10: I later wrote a book after almost twenty years of service,
Speaker 10: I had gotten out of the captain and I had
Speaker 10: in the time I was in the Army reserves for
Speaker 10: I had a reserve scholarship and was mobilized for probably
Speaker 10: a third of my career. I was actually put on
Speaker 10: active duty as a reservist when I was an officer
Speaker 10: and a captain. And during that time I became an
Speaker 10: entrepreneur and opened up a corvette.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get in to that bar, and
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 10: I was able to keep my corvette dealership intact. Very small,
Speaker 10: extreme big struggles, and I was actually able to stay
Speaker 10: as a lieutenant and the captain and they got mobilized
Speaker 10: to go to the border of Mexico in what two
Speaker 10: thousand and three for Desert's one two.
Speaker 3: And it was just a story of you know, the ups.
Speaker 10: And downs and the answers to the questions that people
Speaker 10: have if they're considering joining military service. And hopefully it's
Speaker 10: an inspiration to people that want to make positive changes
Speaker 10: in their life, whether it's quit smoking, get healthy, you know,
Speaker 10: get along better with your family, or just understand what
Speaker 10: it is to be a true patriot of this great country.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's definitely a mouthful in you know, hindsight's
Speaker 2: always twenty twenty and you know we could talk as
Speaker 2: a as somebody who lives in the middle of Bengals country.
Speaker 2: You live in the middle of Cowboys country. The Monday
Speaker 2: morning quarterbacking, Do you think that in hindsight, Doug, that
Speaker 2: that we should have driven Saddam Hussein all the way
Speaker 2: back to Bagdad At the time, in the early nineties.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know that s that's another great year full
Speaker 10: of great questions this morning I'm full of You know,
Speaker 10: at that time, we had a great sense of leadership
Speaker 10: and organizational outcome plan directives in the military. And that's
Speaker 10: just the fancy word I got when I was in
Speaker 10: leadership school. We set a goal. Our mission was to
Speaker 10: drive Hussein out of Kuwait and take back Kuwait. That
Speaker 10: was our mission. We accomplished it and we stopped. We
Speaker 10: thought that was going to be the end of this
Speaker 10: craziness in the Middle East and would tone it down.
Speaker 10: We didn't expect to go back thirteen years later.
Speaker 9: We did what we do now.
Speaker 10: Why we don't have that type of leadership in the military.
Speaker 10: There's no outcome based leadership in the military. We're just
Speaker 10: gabbling in these conflicts around the globe that don't have
Speaker 10: an outcome, very similar to what happened in Vietnam, which
Speaker 10: turned out to be atrocity for our country with fifty
Speaker 10: thousand of our women and men in that theater. So
Speaker 10: right now, I wouldn't second guess it because we set
Speaker 10: a goal, we set a directive, and we set what
Speaker 10: our outcome was and we achieved it. We drove Saddam
Speaker 10: Hussein and the Republican Guard out of Kuwait and we
Speaker 10: achieved our goal.
Speaker 3: We liberated this country.
Speaker 10: We saved millions of lives because these other people that
Speaker 10: were there were going to be killed, and he was
Speaker 10: planning to go to Saudi Arabia. When we got there,
Speaker 10: we had gotten intel that through all the generals and
Speaker 10: all their playing, they were planning to keep going further
Speaker 10: into Saudi Arabian, extually launching SCUD missiles into Saudi at
Speaker 10: that time. So it was a great opportunity for me
Speaker 10: as a kid, you know, as a private, to see
Speaker 10: my leadership set the directive and they told us as
Speaker 10: a pirate, we're going to Kuwait and we are going
Speaker 10: to liberate Kuwait. We are going to drive him out
Speaker 10: of Kuwait City. We're going to push him back on
Speaker 10: what was later referred to as the road of death,
Speaker 10: and then we're going to stop and we're going to
Speaker 10: have peace. And they did it, and they did it
Speaker 10: in about one hundred hours. And that was the you
Speaker 10: know what I considered leadership by General Schwarzkoff, where he
Speaker 10: sets a mission, he sets a goal, you actually do it,
Speaker 10: you get it done, and you want peace because as
Speaker 10: a as a.
Speaker 3: Patriot, I want peace across the world. We don't want
Speaker 3: people to die and suffer. I want it to end.
Speaker 2: We didn't we didn't have a clear mission in Afghanistan, did.
Speaker 10: We We had we absolutely we did not.
Speaker 3: We went in there blindfolded. We went in there with
Speaker 3: no mission.
Speaker 10: There was a number a goal set that said we're
Speaker 10: going to achieve these directives and then we're going to
Speaker 10: end the conflict. And I was also a part of that,
Speaker 10: but in a lesser aspect because I didn't get deployed
Speaker 10: Afghanistan and I didn't get deployed to the Iraq theater
Speaker 10: at that time. I was deployed to the border of
Speaker 10: Mexico to guard Mexico and then mobilized troops to go
Speaker 10: to Iraq, and it was just, it was It was
Speaker 10: inspiring and we were motivated at the beginning of the conflict.
Speaker 10: But as the conflict lingered on for years, the spirit
Speaker 10: of our countrymen was depleted drastically, and then the injuries
Speaker 10: and the urban warfare, and people are soldiers suffering and
Speaker 10: the people in that part of the world suffering. It
Speaker 10: was just it was an awful, awful leadership.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, with no outcome, no goal in that
Speaker 3: part of the world.
Speaker 2: You talk about being deployed to the Mexican border. The
Speaker 2: first call of the federal government in our constitution is
Speaker 2: to provide for the common defense of our country. Should
Speaker 2: our military be concentrated on the Mexican border right now,
Speaker 2: I mean instead of I mean our military provide for
Speaker 2: the common defense. That is the federal government's charge according
Speaker 2: to our constitution, the first one provide for the common
Speaker 2: defense and promote the general welfare of Americans. That's what
Speaker 2: our government has called to do. And yet I don't
Speaker 2: feel like we've been providing for the common defense of
Speaker 2: our country. In regards to the southern border at all.
Speaker 2: The last three and a half years, I.
Speaker 10: Think our southern border is in the worst shape it's
Speaker 10: ever been in.
Speaker 3: The history of our country.
Speaker 10: It's it's just a vanity what's going on down there
Speaker 10: and the destructiveness that it brings to our country. The
Speaker 10: human trafficking, the people that come in on betted that
Speaker 10: can make crimes against events and buns against citizens. And
Speaker 10: number three, the drugs one hundred thousand fetanyl.
Speaker 3: That's all this fetanol comes across the border, if most
Speaker 3: of it from the Mexican border.
Speaker 10: It just unleashes tear on our citizens in our country,
Speaker 10: and absolutely.
Speaker 3: Something needs to be done.
Speaker 10: If the border patrol could control it, you wouldn't need
Speaker 10: the military. But the military and the past and when
Speaker 10: I was there acted as an intel effort. We didn't
Speaker 10: go arrest the migrants that were coming across. We didn't
Speaker 10: arrest the drug dealers. We would spot them, we would
Speaker 10: call it into higher and then border patrol will get them.
Speaker 10: And I believe right now because when I was down there,
Speaker 10: we had control of the border. We have the skill
Speaker 10: sets and the ability to take care of the border
Speaker 10: with the border patrol that's there right now, But we're
Speaker 10: not having our back of the executive branch in order
Speaker 10: to enforce the laws. They've actually circumvented the laws, opened
Speaker 10: the border wide up and they're not even to.
Speaker 3: Do their job.
Speaker 10: Of course, you could use the military, but I don't
Speaker 10: think it's needed from my experience on that the border
Speaker 10: patrol can do it. They just need backing by the government.
Speaker 10: And I believe now from what you see in the
Speaker 10: media reports, is actually a call by the American people
Speaker 10: for their voice to be heard where.
Speaker 3: They want the border protect it.
Speaker 9: Nothing is enough.
Speaker 10: Citizens are being murdered, citizens are being raped, citizens are
Speaker 10: being taken advantage of.
Speaker 3: Our resources are being.
Speaker 10: Spent on people coming across the border that are not vetted,
Speaker 10: and giving to people our veterans sleeping the park addicted
Speaker 10: to drugs and alcohol without anybody taking care of them,
Speaker 10: with our people and our impoverished ghattos not being taken
Speaker 10: care of, but yet we're giving hotels to people that
Speaker 10: come across the border. It's my definition of insanity. I
Speaker 10: would never imagine in my fifty two years of my
Speaker 10: life that this would be going on in my country, and.
Speaker 3: I wrote about it in my book The Spirit of
Speaker 3: a True.
Speaker 10: Patriot, about my experiences of the border, they were excellent.
Speaker 3: We guarded the border.
Speaker 10: We had people come across and they would get them,
Speaker 10: they would arrest them, and they would send them back
Speaker 10: to Mexico and if they had drugs, they would do
Speaker 10: their time in jail then get put back in Mexico.
Speaker 10: And that was a very common way of doing business
Speaker 10: back then. Now it's a free for all. It's wide open, and.
Speaker 3: It is absolutely untenable.
Speaker 10: What you can imagine what's happened to the people in
Speaker 10: our country that have to suffer because of these batchform
Speaker 10: policy initiatives by the Border Czar Harris and President Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Douglas Ernest, the book is the spirit of a true patriot,
Speaker 2: the inspiring story of retired Captain Douglas j Ernest, US
Speaker 2: Army war veteran entrepreneur owns a very successful Corvette car
Speaker 2: dealership in Dallas.
Speaker 6: You know, next time we got to.
Speaker 2: If there is a next time, Doug, We've got to
Speaker 2: make time to talk about the Corvette warehouse and how
Speaker 2: that got started, because that's a great story too, and
Speaker 2: it's in the book. And again you said, all proceeds
Speaker 2: from the book go where.
Speaker 3: All proceeds go to veterans group.
Speaker 10: I pick my favorite four veterans groups that I hope
Speaker 10: to make my contribution back to my sisters and brothers,
Speaker 10: to be able to give something back because our government
Speaker 10: doesn't always take care of the veterans because they don't
Speaker 10: have the resources. I hope that your listeners will spend
Speaker 10: the fifteen bucks of the paperback or six bucks of
Speaker 10: the kindle for the Spirit of a Truth Patriot. Spend
Speaker 10: that little bit of money, and about thirty percent of
Speaker 10: the revenue that comes from the book actually goes.
Speaker 3: Right directly to the veterans groups.
Speaker 10: The Spirit of a Truth Patriot Douglasernest dot com. You
Speaker 10: can just Google search Douglas Ernest and the links of
Speaker 10: the book will be in there.
Speaker 3: I ask y'all to.
Speaker 10: Please make your small contribution so we can help those
Speaker 10: that need a helping hand in this challenging time for
Speaker 10: our country.
Speaker 9: And can I say one last thing, Gary question, No,
Speaker 9: go ahead.
Speaker 10: I just hope that your your people, your listeners, get
Speaker 10: out and vote, Tell your friends, tell your neighbor, put
Speaker 10: a sign in your yard, get out.
Speaker 3: Don't let our country be destroyed.
Speaker 10: Please get out, make your voice be heard, and do
Speaker 10: what you can to help our country, take our country back. Amen,
Speaker 10: thank you, don Amen, You're welcome, sir, my pleasure.
Speaker 2: It's the nightcap on seven hundred WLW, and we ain't
Speaker 2: done yet, Cowur. It is time to go into a
Speaker 2: sports commando territory because a lot of people have not
Speaker 2: had their emotions sufficiently addressed. After the Bengals' fifth loss
Speaker 2: of the season at home, their fourth loss at home,
Speaker 2: they are zero to four at pay Course Stadium, and
Speaker 2: again the worry coming in was the Bengals would not
Speaker 2: be able to stop Philadelphia and Sequon Barkley and Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 6: And guess what they didn't.
Speaker 2: It is the sports commando himself, the wild the wild Man,
Speaker 2: Dennis Wildman Walker, ready to air it out and vent
Speaker 2: on a Monday night on the radio.
Speaker 6: How you doing, wild Man?
Speaker 1: Well, I've been better, I've been a lot better. But
Speaker 1: after watching yesterday's debacle, Gary, Jeff, ten games left, okay,
Speaker 1: ten games left of the season. You just said, Bengals
Speaker 1: are three and five and zero and four. We're just
Speaker 1: unacceptable at pay Course Stadium. This football team. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say that the season is over. Let me just
Speaker 1: put it in another way and then you can decipher
Speaker 1: they were in a coma and are on life support.
Speaker 2: So I mean, are we calling the hospice doctors yet
Speaker 2: into the room. Is this just palliative care the rest
Speaker 2: of the way through wild Man or is there a
Speaker 2: hope of a miracle, of a chance that they come
Speaker 2: out off of life support. They're breathing on their own.
Speaker 2: They take the feeding tube out, and they get out
Speaker 2: of ICU, and now they're in a general room just
Speaker 2: kind of healing up.
Speaker 6: Just for observation.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's your prognosis, then, doctor Walker, what's your
Speaker 2: prognosis here of the patient?
Speaker 1: Well, the vine intervention might have to happen.
Speaker 2: We're talking about only God can fix this.
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff. Right now, it's a It's a mess on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, starting with the terrible, terrible
Speaker 1: play calling it one, Zach Taylor. I mean that fourth
Speaker 1: and two play. My grandma's been dead for twenty years
Speaker 1: and she could tell you what play was coming. I mean,
Speaker 1: when that happens, that's bad. And they throw a screen pass,
Speaker 1: Gary Jeff. They've been trying that screen pass for fifty
Speaker 1: eight years and it hasn't worked. And he can continue
Speaker 1: to go to the well on that screen pass, Well,
Speaker 1: that's can get two.
Speaker 2: Yard fifty year, fifty eight years. That's not Zach Taylor's fault.
Speaker 1: No, they still they're still using that play for the playbook.
Speaker 1: They're still using that play. That was just a dumb play.
Speaker 1: They're that close you play field position, and I can
Speaker 1: I can hark him back to the Super Bowl when
Speaker 1: they were like at midfield and Taylor thought he was
Speaker 1: cute and went forth. It failed, The Rams got the ball,
Speaker 1: went down to score touchdown, and if you look at
Speaker 1: the final score of the game, there was the difference.
Speaker 1: But Taylor's play calling is terrible, terrible, and it's all
Speaker 1: over It's all over Facebook. People are now saying Taylor
Speaker 1: is not the guy the call plays and Gary Jeff.
Speaker 1: Look what the Browns did this week. Kema Stefanski turned
Speaker 1: it over his play calling duties the Ken Dorsey. Okay,
Speaker 1: they put in a third stream cornerback Jamius Winston. What
Speaker 1: happens They upset the Baltimore Ravens. There's something there. Why
Speaker 1: can't Taylor? Why can't Taylor turn a play calling duties
Speaker 1: over to Jeff Jeff Pitcher, Well, let me do it.
Speaker 2: The last time that Jamis Winston. Winston was successful at
Speaker 2: stealing anything. It was crab legs in Florida and he
Speaker 2: was just going out of college.
Speaker 1: Now you're just reaching.
Speaker 2: There no reach in that that happened.
Speaker 1: But had to do with the game yesterday.
Speaker 6: They hear me out. Hear me out.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is Jameis Winston more or less was
Speaker 2: written off in the NFL for his career and the
Speaker 2: only thing that some people remember is you know that stuff,
Speaker 2: and not not his introduction into the league. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying That's me just calmed down for a moment and
Speaker 2: hear me out. What I'm saying is with a change
Speaker 2: in play calling, you can have a change in outcomes
Speaker 2: no matter who's under center.
Speaker 6: I think that's the point.
Speaker 1: Well, and worked for the Browns, did it not? Yes?
Speaker 6: I was agree. I was agreeing with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if Zach Taylor's ego will not
Speaker 1: allow it, and really I think a lot of the
Speaker 1: players are starting to not question it out loud, but
Speaker 1: inside that locker room, I'm on themselves. Now let me
Speaker 1: run this by you again. I told you this once.
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was the offensive coordinator. I think at twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen with Miami Dolphins. They got rid of him. He
Speaker 1: came to Cincinnati. It's the offensive coordinator. They got rid
Speaker 1: of him too when they fired Tommy Tubberville ended up
Speaker 1: with the Rams as the quarterbacks coach, not the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: but as the quarterbacks coach. Then he gets the job here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what was the What was the Bengals record before
Speaker 1: they got Joe Borrow? Joe Burrow? What was their record?
Speaker 1: It was a pathetic, it was it was they were losers.
Speaker 1: They went to the super Bowl. Yeah, they went to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl because of Joe Burrow. It wasn't Zach
Speaker 1: Taylor's play calling, his brilliant play calling, because the league
Speaker 1: is caught up to him. Now here here we go.
Speaker 1: Jermaine Burton. T Higgins can't play again for a third
Speaker 1: time this year. Jamaine and Burton, they put him in yesterday,
Speaker 1: had a great had a great catch, had another one
Speaker 1: that almost could have been a touchdown, but the defensive back,
Speaker 1: it was an all pro, broke it up. Jermaine and
Speaker 1: Burton needs to get the Ballimore, the guy who's got
Speaker 1: blazing speed, and Joe Burrow has already come out and said.
Speaker 6: I like that guy.
Speaker 1: Because he can't. You can't. You're not gonna win with
Speaker 1: Jamar Chason. They're double team and him and guys like
Speaker 1: Trent Irwin and you both seeing those guys, they're not
Speaker 1: they're not that caliber. But Jermaine Burton, if you look
Speaker 1: at the numbers he put up in college, it was unreal,
Speaker 1: the numbers he put up in college at Alabama.
Speaker 6: Look at the guy in there and play well.
Speaker 2: And the thing that you know you said at the
Speaker 2: top of this wild Man that on both sides of
Speaker 2: the ball, they're a mess. They're a cognitive mess, and
Speaker 2: they're a kinetic physical mess on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 6: And the offense. You have covered with.
Speaker 2: The what you call Zach Taylor's deficiency of ability to
Speaker 2: call plays in the offense. And I listen, I'm one
Speaker 2: hundred percent on board with that opinion of yours. And
Speaker 2: I'm also and you and I've discussed this before. I
Speaker 2: think that Joe Burrow ought to be calling the plays.
Speaker 2: He's absolutely he's your you know, multimillion dollar quarterback. He
Speaker 2: is a franchise quarterback for the ages, especially for a
Speaker 2: team like the Bengals in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: Perfect fit. Let the guy.
Speaker 2: Who who actually knows what he's seeing in front of
Speaker 2: him and knows the personnel he has decide how to
Speaker 2: utilize that personnel on any given offensive drive.
Speaker 6: Totally down with that.
Speaker 2: The thing we have not discussed the all obvious defensive
Speaker 2: deficiencies of this particular squad. Once again, they knew this
Speaker 2: was coming. I mean, they knew the Eagles were coming
Speaker 2: to town. With Sekwon Barkley had just rushed for one
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two yards the week before. We knew
Speaker 2: what Jalen Hurts can do with his legs and his arm,
Speaker 2: and yet there was no answer from the Bengals defense.
Speaker 1: Yesterday they had two pressures. They had two pressures on
Speaker 1: the quarterback.
Speaker 6: Yesterday.
Speaker 1: Fred Johnson, a throwaway from the Bengals, kept Trey Henrickson
Speaker 1: at bay. I mean, good for Fred Fred Johnson. He
Speaker 1: did a good job. But they didn't blitz. They didn't
Speaker 1: blitz one time. This is on lou Amarillo. Lou Amarillo
Speaker 1: had how many days repair for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying they knew the Eagles were coming to
Speaker 2: town and who was coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a mess. Miles Murphy as a
Speaker 1: number one draft Pick. I never hear his name called
Speaker 1: on anything. And bj Hill yesterday I didn't really hear
Speaker 1: his name called much either. And let's be so Kwanton Berkley,
Speaker 1: he had a good day, but had a good day
Speaker 1: of course at the end of getting garbage, garbage time yards.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, for the most part, the
Speaker 1: Bengals kept him in check. But then, of course the
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Eagles when he got when he got loose,
Speaker 1: he was able to find guys wide open, wide open.
Speaker 2: How many times if there is a talented and we
Speaker 2: faced the Bengals have faced Lamar Jackson this year. Okay,
Speaker 2: another quarterback very much like Jalen Hurts, only with more
Speaker 2: physical capabilities than maybe Jalen Hurts has. But how is
Speaker 2: it that you can absolutely almost put these quarterbacks in
Speaker 2: a cage and you let them figure a way out
Speaker 2: when you're closing in on both sides, and and you
Speaker 2: you've got your arms right there within you know, half
Speaker 2: an arm's linked distance of tackling this guy, and they
Speaker 2: escape every single time from the Bengals, it seems.
Speaker 1: And I've seen I've seen that. I've seen that for
Speaker 1: the eight years too. I don't I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Joe Burrow. You mentioned, yeah,
Speaker 1: I call him his own place. I don't think that
Speaker 1: will really happen, because if you look at the history
Speaker 1: of the Bengals, no quarterback, no quarterback, Ken Anderson, Woomers,
Speaker 1: siasin Carson Balmer, they never were able to call their plays.
Speaker 1: I think that's something in the Bengals organization up going
Speaker 1: up back to Paul Brown, that no quarterback will ever
Speaker 1: call the plays for this franchise.
Speaker 2: I really believe that does doesn't well, doesn't doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: Does it happen elsewhere in the NFL wild Man.
Speaker 1: Where Peyton manages to Peyton manages to call his own plays? Yep.
Speaker 1: I remember there's a number of there's a number of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that call their own place. I mean, and then,
Speaker 1: like you just said, we're all going to say, you
Speaker 1: paying me guy fifty five million dollars. He's on the field,
Speaker 1: he knows the players. But now you'et Zach Taylor is
Speaker 1: a guy, and you'll just go back and look, the
Speaker 1: league has caught on the Zach Taylor in his and
Speaker 1: this in his lame annis as a play caller, lame
Speaker 1: They're very lame. I'm not I'm not advocating, and he'd
Speaker 1: be fired. I'm advocating. Check your ego at the door.
Speaker 1: Give them the job to your OC. Let him see
Speaker 1: what he can do. Why'd you hire him as an
Speaker 1: OC If he's not calling the play? Why have him?
Speaker 1: That's a that's a wasted that's wasted payroll. And coach.
Speaker 1: Coach the team on the sidelines, get in the guy's faces,
Speaker 1: talk to the guys. Let your coaches coach. That's why
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin has been a huge success because he lets
Speaker 1: the coaches coach and he reads the same way. Well,
Speaker 1: when you're.
Speaker 2: The head guy, and I like him this to uh,
Speaker 2: let's say the president. When you're the head guy, you delegate.
Speaker 2: This is something that Reagan was great at, delegating the
Speaker 2: responsibilities of government to people who are capable, to people
Speaker 2: who had a track record of being capable, not just
Speaker 2: Washington stiffs. In the Bengals case, they're not able. Zach
Speaker 2: Taylor as the head coach is not able to delegate
Speaker 2: authority the right way for them to be successful.
Speaker 6: And I think that's the point you're making, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly. I mean, does he not have confidence
Speaker 1: and his coaches. If that's the case, then get rid
Speaker 1: of them. Then get rid of them. Yeah, my god,
Speaker 1: I mean this town is on edge, man, really, I
Speaker 1: mean being zero and four at home, and then yesterday
Speaker 1: the debacle that we saw, you know, specially with the
Speaker 1: play calling on fourth and two. You know, a blind
Speaker 1: man could have told you they're gonna throw the screen pass.
Speaker 1: They throw a three yard screen pass behind the line
Speaker 1: and then get tackled. That's the best you could come
Speaker 1: up with. And he's supposed to be this offensive genius,
Speaker 1: this offensive guru.
Speaker 2: My ass well, And I gotta tell you, I saw
Speaker 2: the postgame press conference with Joe Burrow, and he looked
Speaker 2: like he was He looked like he was in a
Speaker 2: state of shock as he was trying to answer the
Speaker 2: questions and trying to address the press. He looked I
Speaker 2: hate to say this, wild man, but he looked bengalized.
Speaker 2: He really did.
Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of the press conference and
Speaker 1: I saw that look on his face, and I don't
Speaker 1: think he really wanted to be there, but you know,
Speaker 1: league rules. But and then he said, you know it's
Speaker 1: doable that we can win the next uh yes, seven seven?
Speaker 1: Out of ten games, it's doable. I don't see I
Speaker 1: don't see that happening. I mean, they gotta go on
Speaker 1: the road and play the Chargers, and they don't play.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go on the road to play the Chargers.
Speaker 1: They're gonna they should beat the Titans. They should be
Speaker 1: the Titan and they should beat the Raiders. Then they
Speaker 1: gotta go. They gonna go play the Ravens in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: They gotta still play the Steelers twice.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. But the stranger things have happened.
Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna take divine intervention. This football
Speaker 1: team has got too many problems. And I mean I
Speaker 1: get Jermaine Burton that needs to be in that lineup.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's got blazing speed. I mean, we
Speaker 1: got this Engus football team on the ost side of
Speaker 1: the Ballgary Jeff is very talented and Zach Taylor is
Speaker 1: screwing it all up. He's screwing it all up.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can have you can have filet mignon
Speaker 2: and lobster as a chef, and you can have the
Speaker 2: finest ingredients, but it can come out like shoe leather
Speaker 2: and crap. If the cook doesn't know what he's doing,
Speaker 2: and you're just insisting that there are no culinary schools
Speaker 2: skills football wise in Zach Taylor's apron.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go back and look at the play calling
Speaker 1: that he's just this year alone, and I go back
Speaker 1: to last year too. Some of the play calling that's
Speaker 1: just the league has caught on that what they're going
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, you could see it on TV
Speaker 1: when they lined up there, what they were going to do.
Speaker 1: And you know, if I can see it, you don't
Speaker 1: think that the Eagles defensive coordinator or their defense couldn't
Speaker 1: see if they knew what was coming. And that's that's
Speaker 1: the best you got, you know, in your back pocket,
Speaker 1: throw a screen pass three yards behind the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage when they should have just plotted the ball and
Speaker 1: played field position. But no, Zach's gonna know. I'm smarter
Speaker 1: than this. I can pull this off. And you see
Speaker 1: a look on his face after it failed. He didn't
Speaker 1: know what to do. He didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1: He could have found the hole to crawl in, he
Speaker 1: would have done it. I know.
Speaker 2: This is the home of the best Bengals coverage. This
Speaker 2: is Cincinnati. You're a Bengals fan. We got lots of
Speaker 2: Bengals fans listening, But you know, me as a Chiefs fan,
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting back with a smile on my face, going, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes probably having the worst season of his career,
Speaker 2: of his career right now, and the Chiefs are undefeated,
Speaker 2: and they just keep on finding ways to win, like
Speaker 2: they did yesterday against the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Garrett made my day a little bit better after the
Speaker 1: Bengals loss when I flipped on the end of the
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: Oh, we had an incredible game, what a finish, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And Jayden Daniels hail Mary fifty two yard passer to
Speaker 1: Noah Brown that he catch us in the end zone.
Speaker 1: I've got to sell out of the chair. I can't
Speaker 1: yeah up to the flex and I can't say words
Speaker 1: that I that because it's not out on the air.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it that of us. It was hilarious
Speaker 1: and Dada Daniels didn't even know what had happened, and
Speaker 1: he really didn't know. You really didn't know. But that's
Speaker 1: what that that replay, that replay that Hail Mary will
Speaker 1: be shown from now into eternity. Oh will it was?
Speaker 2: It was the Hail Mary of the season so far.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they get any better than that.
Speaker 2: A jump a jump ball. The ball goes up in
Speaker 2: the air and there's Noah Brown right behind the whole mess, going,
Speaker 2: oh look what I found?
Speaker 6: As I asked, as the clock expires, Yeah.
Speaker 1: As the clock expired, I mean, Aaron, Aaron Rodgers threw
Speaker 1: when last week? Right at that like that at halftime
Speaker 1: but not but not sowing as time expires, to pull out,
Speaker 1: pull your fat out of the fire.
Speaker 6: So, uh, are the Dodgers done? Are they are? Are
Speaker 6: they gonna win this World Series? Wild man?
Speaker 1: I'm staying with the Yankees, and six Yankees are home.
Speaker 1: Aaron Judges struggled a little bit, without a doubt. But
Speaker 1: maybe when they get back to the friendly confines of
Speaker 1: the Yankee Stadium, the ghosts that kind of came over
Speaker 1: from the old Yankee Stadium to the new Yankee Stadium
Speaker 1: will inspire those boys to play a little bit better.
Speaker 2: The only team that has ever lost a World Series
Speaker 2: after winning the first three games. The last team was
Speaker 2: the two thousand and four Boston Red Sox pulled it
Speaker 2: out if the Yankees had a three games to nothing. Indeed,
Speaker 2: and one of the players on that Boston Red Sox
Speaker 2: team is now managing the LA Dodgers, Dave Roberts.
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts.
Speaker 2: It's twenty years later. The Dodgers may be going to
Speaker 2: a three to zero lead, and does Dave Roberts wind
Speaker 2: up on the wrong end, Yeah, no doubt. It's a
Speaker 2: mus must win for the Yankees tonight. And they've been
Speaker 2: in this position before.
Speaker 1: But they're home the fans, I don't They're not gonna
Speaker 1: be too many Dodger fans in the Yankees tadum Worthy
Speaker 1: blue unless they value their lives. And this is this
Speaker 1: is a musch win game for the Yankees. And everybody
Speaker 1: will tell you that. All right, well, did you get
Speaker 1: down three to zero? You can see you can see
Speaker 1: history that's not on your side.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir wild Man. Always good to have you on
Speaker 2: my side. And thanks for being on the show tonight
Speaker 2: again Gary Jeff.
Speaker 1: The Bengals are in a coma and on life support
Speaker 1: and that's and how we look at not good.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Wildman Walker on the nightcap seven hundred W
Speaker 2: l W.
Speaker 6: People that I really.
Speaker 11: Really respect after having just years and years of empirical
Speaker 11: data to show that he is absolutely on point with
Speaker 11: everything in the Internet of Things world.
Speaker 2: Is tech expert Dave Hatter. So we have him back
Speaker 2: for a conversation. Mister Hatter, Mad Hatter, How are you today?
Speaker 2: How does the day find you?
Speaker 8: You know, Gary, Jeff, I can't complain.
Speaker 7: How about you?
Speaker 2: You know what, It's just part of the part of
Speaker 2: God's great plan. And then I will then I will
Speaker 2: continue to see what God has next for me. And
Speaker 2: I think God believes and breaks every once in a while.
Speaker 2: But anyway, in the Internet of Things tech world, which
Speaker 2: you and I discuss on a regular there are all
Speaker 2: kinds of things that people need to look out for.
Speaker 2: It is a continual process, and you continue to track
Speaker 2: these stories down to let people know before they sign
Speaker 2: up for that app, before they agree to those terms
Speaker 2: of service. You probably would want to read those terms
Speaker 2: of service, although most people do not, And you'd like
Speaker 2: to know what little pitfalls await you when you're engaging
Speaker 2: in all of this wonderful technology. There is something called
Speaker 2: z scaler. I don't know what z scaler is. Is
Speaker 2: this something I should be concerned about and what is
Speaker 2: what are two hundred militious look alike domains for every
Speaker 2: one impersonated brand?
Speaker 6: So what are they saying in essence here.
Speaker 7: Dave, Yeah, Gary, Jeff. Here's the short end of it,
Speaker 7: which is the Scaler is a cybersecurity company. They do
Speaker 7: a variety of different things, but they did a study.
Speaker 7: And like many of these larger cybersecurity companies out there,
Speaker 7: you know, Microsoft puts out a big study every year,
Speaker 7: Verizon puts out of study. These things are useful for
Speaker 7: folks like me who work in the field, like an interest,
Speaker 7: you know, we look at these things to try to
Speaker 7: figure out what what might we be missing in terms
Speaker 7: of how we're support our customers. You know, what additional
Speaker 7: cybersecurity protections should they be thinking about in light of
Speaker 7: the ever changing landscape out there. I mean you mentioned
Speaker 7: it before. Sadly, the bad guys are really smart, really creative,
Speaker 7: really devious. They're constantly changing their tactics and while this
Speaker 7: lookalike domain idea isn't new, it continues to be a
Speaker 7: big So per this z Scaler study, they've said that
Speaker 7: of five hundred major brands, and you can think of
Speaker 7: a lookalike domain sometimes it's called a doppelganger domain. You know,
Speaker 7: I'll go out use a tool to copy your website,
Speaker 7: set it up on a server somewhere with a domain
Speaker 7: that looks to the naked eye, either very similar or
Speaker 7: exactly like your domain. So you get a phishing email
Speaker 7: or a text or whatever from me as a bad guy,
Speaker 7: you click a link. It takes you to a page
Speaker 7: or an entire website that looks exactly like the real thing,
Speaker 7: and in many cases, again to the naked eye, there's
Speaker 7: no way to tell. And you know, if you look
Speaker 7: at the details of this study, it shows you how
Speaker 7: common this is. And that's why I'm glad you brought
Speaker 7: this up as a topic. It's so important for people
Speaker 7: to realize. Firstly, anything on the Internet can be spoofed,
Speaker 7: whether it's an email address, it's a phone number, it's
Speaker 7: a text message, or it's a whole website. As we
Speaker 7: see here, it's really easy to do this, and sadly,
Speaker 7: because of this is so easy, you know, people fall
Speaker 7: prey to your scam. So just being aware that because
Speaker 7: something looks right to you doesn't necessarily mean it is.
Speaker 7: You need a healthy dose of skepticism, and this study
Speaker 7: just shows how common this particular approach is.
Speaker 2: Well, it'd be let's say, look at you talk about
Speaker 2: impersonated brands. You would look at say a bottle of coke,
Speaker 2: for example, but it's not coke, but it has the
Speaker 2: same script on the label, and it has the same
Speaker 2: colors as a bottle of coke. And I mean Coca
Speaker 2: Cola would be suing those people because they were impersonating
Speaker 2: their brand in such a an obvious way. But this
Speaker 2: is on This is on a on a website or
Speaker 2: on an internet brand, so it's the same thing.
Speaker 7: That's a good analogy, Grey, Jeff. I mean the goal
Speaker 7: of the bad guys is to you know, in many cases,
Speaker 7: literary copy the full website of an existing organization, set
Speaker 7: it up on another server registered domain name. Like they
Speaker 7: may use the crylicaracter that looks like the English character A,
Speaker 7: so to the naked eye, you're not going to notice
Speaker 7: the difference. Now, there's software out there that can potentially
Speaker 7: detect these kinds of things, but you know that costs
Speaker 7: more money. It costs friction. People don't know how to
Speaker 7: install that sort of stuff. So you get you get
Speaker 7: an email, hey your package is delayed or whatever. It
Speaker 7: is it's you know, super a great deal on product X.
Speaker 7: You click the link, it takes you to one of
Speaker 7: these lookalike aka doppelganger website and without you know, a
Speaker 7: special software that's attempting to detect these and keep you
Speaker 7: from landing on them, which is difficult because new ones
Speaker 7: are set up all the time. I mean, just look
Speaker 7: at the scale of the study, right, thirty thousand of
Speaker 7: these things, and they'll pop it up all the time.
Speaker 7: It's a it's a difficult challenge as a defender against
Speaker 7: this sort of thing because it's easy to do for
Speaker 7: the bad guy, it's effective obviously, or they stop doing it,
Speaker 7: and you know, the scale of it is difficult to
Speaker 7: take on because new ones are coming in all the time.
Speaker 7: So besides getting software like Cisco Umbrella are something that
Speaker 7: can filter none malicious site. I help he does the
Speaker 7: skepticism and understanding that just because something looks legit does
Speaker 7: not mean that it is and you should proceed with caution.
Speaker 7: You know, I hate that we're always the deemsday guys
Speaker 7: here Gary, Jeff, But you know, sadly, these scams are
Speaker 7: very effective and people are losing lots of money if
Speaker 7: you don't believe me. Go see what the FBI says
Speaker 7: and their annual report on Cybercroot, which is also worth
Speaker 7: reading because they're getting insight into the kind of things
Speaker 7: you need to be on the look out for.
Speaker 2: Well, there are all kinds of scams, and not all
Speaker 2: of them are on the Internet. Sometimes you're getting calls
Speaker 2: on your phone.
Speaker 6: This happened last week.
Speaker 2: My wife and I just sitting around and she gets
Speaker 2: a call. Didn't know the number, and they claimed they
Speaker 2: were from our bank, US bank, and they were just
Speaker 2: confirming that we had made one thousand dollars purchase on
Speaker 2: our account. They were just checking to make sure if
Speaker 2: this was a legitimate purchase. We hadn't made any thousand
Speaker 2: dollars purchases. And while she's on the phone, we're also
Speaker 2: checking our online banking. No, there's no thousand dollars. People
Speaker 2: are often tripped up by these phone calls, thinking that
Speaker 2: their bank is looking after it, and I guess banks
Speaker 2: do sometimes verify a large purchase or whatever. But I
Speaker 2: was listening to the voice on the end of the line.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: Just listening to her him address my wife like he
Speaker 2: knew her. When I just said, you know what, just
Speaker 2: hang up, it's a scam, she said. I think so too.
Speaker 2: How often does.
Speaker 7: That happen all the time. I'll tell you a real
Speaker 7: world story that happened to myself and my wife here,
Speaker 7: very similar to what you just described. But I would
Speaker 7: point out to folks, you know, first off, how would
Speaker 7: some bad guy know what they you use? Well, it
Speaker 7: could be because, for example, your information has been leaked
Speaker 7: slash stolen from companies like National Public Data, which is
Speaker 7: a background check company. You know.
Speaker 9: Think to your listening audience out there, think about the
Speaker 9: very sensitive information you would give up as part of
Speaker 9: a background check. All the places you've lived, all the
Speaker 9: places you work, all kinds of information. So when that
Speaker 9: information gets stolen or eaked, it gives the bad guys
Speaker 9: a treasure trail of information to use to impersonate someone
Speaker 9: that you actually do business with or interact with on
Speaker 9: a regular basis. Not to mention, they can also go
Speaker 9: somewhere like the Hambleton County Shaff's website, look up a
Speaker 9: real name, and when they call you at.
Speaker 7: Some kind of scam say I'm starting such shuts from
Speaker 7: the Hamletin County Shriffs office. You can go to this
Speaker 7: website right here, and see me. So again, these data
Speaker 7: breaches are relevant to you as an individual because it
Speaker 7: gives the bad guys information to use against you, either
Speaker 7: to impersonate you in creating accounts in your name, or
Speaker 7: to have information that would allow them to impersonate someone
Speaker 7: you work with regularly. To make these kinds of scams
Speaker 7: more legit. So we're sitting on accounts, my wife and I.
Speaker 7: She gets a text from our bank USAA claims there's
Speaker 7: fraud on our account. Call this number. So she again
Speaker 7: reminds us, it's very easy to spoof a phone number
Speaker 7: to go find out what is a legitimate number at
Speaker 7: USAA or us bank or wherever, and send a text
Speaker 7: message or make a voice call from that number. It's
Speaker 7: very easy, doesn't require any skill in our websites. You
Speaker 7: can go to right now and do this. So that's
Speaker 7: the first thing. Be aware of spoofing. I keep bringing
Speaker 7: that up because it's unfortunately very easy for the bad
Speaker 7: guys to do. So we get this text, she calls
Speaker 7: the number. I'm sitting there next to her, and they
Speaker 7: start asking questions that to me, they already should know
Speaker 7: the answer to. Here's a tip, carry jar if your
Speaker 7: bank doesn't know your bank account number.
Speaker 6: It's not your bank, yeah.
Speaker 7: Or they want you to confirm it. Wait, you called me.
Speaker 7: Why would you need me to confirm information when you
Speaker 7: called me.
Speaker 2: And there was something similar that happened in this phone call,
Speaker 2: and she said, well, you ought to know that, and
Speaker 2: then we knew.
Speaker 7: If they ask for your credentials, here, here's your name
Speaker 7: and passwork, they can reset your passwork. They do not
Speaker 7: need to know your password if it's your legitimate bank. Right, So,
Speaker 7: anytime they start asking questions about things, they should already
Speaker 7: know either you're working with a terrible bank and you
Speaker 7: should find a new bank, or you're getting scammed, right,
Speaker 7: so those should be red flags. You know, my wife
Speaker 7: hung up it was death obviously a scam. Yeah, thankfully
Speaker 7: we managed to avoid that. But yeah, this happens all
Speaker 7: the time. It's easy to spoof a phone number. It's
Speaker 7: easy to get phone numbers that know that you work
Speaker 7: or company X, Y or Z E because of these
Speaker 7: data breaches or maybe something you posted online. Yeah, sadly,
Speaker 7: people need to be extremely skeptical. And in a scenario
Speaker 7: like that, my advice would be to do what you did,
Speaker 7: hang up, go log into your account and you know,
Speaker 7: check there and or get out your bank statement, or
Speaker 7: find a number once you've logged into your account and
Speaker 7: call using a number that you've used before. Something you
Speaker 7: can verify, like from a bank statement. Sure it can't
Speaker 7: be spoofed or scammed.
Speaker 6: Right, Well, here's another scam.
Speaker 2: Dave Hatter scammers swindled an older man in California out
Speaker 2: of twenty five grand by using AI voice technology to
Speaker 2: claim his son was in horrible accident needed money for bail.
Speaker 2: It was absolutely in the old man's ears. It was
Speaker 2: absolutely his son's voice. And this technology has gotten so
Speaker 2: far advanced the deep fake AI. The voice soundedlike technology.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 7: I just can't stress enough, I think. And this speaks
Speaker 7: to spooping, which we've now talked about numerous times. Right,
Speaker 7: if the form was spoofing, I could call from any
Speaker 7: number I want and then potentially use this AI's voice
Speaker 7: cloning software to close someone's voice to convince you that
Speaker 7: you're talking to that person. So could I potentially find
Speaker 7: your son's phone number in a data reach because you
Speaker 7: listed him in a background check? Maybe his name and
Speaker 7: phone number? Could I call? And now most people are
Speaker 7: going to say, but wait, a minute, How would you
Speaker 7: get the Sun's voice?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 7: And here's my answer to everyone, because you know, I
Speaker 7: think we've talked about this before, Garret Jef. I've done
Speaker 7: a couple of TV interviews, one with John matter Reechs
Speaker 7: where we cloned this voice real time on TV using
Speaker 7: a free tool. Literally went out, found a website to
Speaker 7: claim to do it, set up an account with no
Speaker 7: previous experience, no experience using that site except for you know,
Speaker 7: forty five minutes before John showed up, and then you know,
Speaker 7: no cost. It was a free site. We cloned his voice.
Speaker 7: You can watch me type in what his voice says
Speaker 7: coming out of my speakers. So this technology is absolutely
Speaker 7: real to your point, it continues to improve. This is
Speaker 7: one of many examples like this. But again getting back
Speaker 7: to well, I'm not a celebrity like John matt Reeves,
Speaker 7: how would you get my voice?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 7: If I know your phone number, can I call that
Speaker 7: phone number and possibly get a voice greeting of you
Speaker 7: telling me I'm not there, leave the message maybe and
Speaker 7: if I can't, and guess what I'm you in about
Speaker 7: fifteen minutes, Because you only need a few seconds of
Speaker 7: someone's voice in most cases with Matt a Reis. He
Speaker 7: literally trained the tool by reading a sentence. But if
Speaker 7: I can download your voice because I can find it
Speaker 7: in a video posted online somewhere, or because I can
Speaker 7: call your phone.
Speaker 1: And hear your voice, I'm you.
Speaker 7: So when people say this could never happen to me,
Speaker 7: how is this possible? Now? You know this doesn't I
Speaker 7: don't think they know exactly how this all went down.
Speaker 7: But to your point, the guy claims in the interview
Speaker 7: that you know, it absolutely sounded like his son, and
Speaker 7: unfortunately he was scammed out of a lot of money.
Speaker 7: You know, this is often known as the grandparents scam.
Speaker 7: It's been around for a long time. My dad got
Speaker 7: one of these calls once. Now this is probably it
Speaker 7: was four or five years ago, probably before it was
Speaker 7: any kind of AI involved. Because in some cases, you know,
Speaker 7: they're calling in the middle of the night and they
Speaker 7: say they have a cold or whatever. You know, they're
Speaker 7: social engineering. You catch you off guard with some kind
Speaker 7: of urgency, right. Typically in the scams, there's a major problem.
Speaker 7: It's urgent you get to do. Acts are trying to
Speaker 7: get you to act before you stop and think about it.
Speaker 7: But I just can't stress enough to folks, This voice
Speaker 7: cloning deep fake AI thing is real. There are increasing
Speaker 7: reports of it being used in a variety of different scams,
Speaker 7: not the least of which are on individuals like this
Speaker 7: poor gentleman here who apparently lost twenty five grand as
Speaker 7: a result of it.
Speaker 2: Well, and people who are routinely their voice is routinely
Speaker 2: out in you know, in space like here, on the radio,
Speaker 2: or on TV as you mentioned, or a movie or
Speaker 2: a politician or whatever. For somebody like Bill Cunningham or
Speaker 2: Scott Sloan or a Gary Jeff Walker, it would be
Speaker 2: very easy to just to record the show for about
Speaker 2: five minutes and they would have me saying anything and everything.
Speaker 2: The problem with the scammers is that I'm likely to
Speaker 2: say anything at all at any time, so you know,
Speaker 2: I might have a hard time talking myself out of
Speaker 2: being faked like that.
Speaker 9: Well, Jerry, yeah that's a good point.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean, anyone that's in the public eye
Speaker 7: on a regular basis, you know, audio, video, public speaking,
Speaker 7: et cetera, is potentially going to be at more risk
Speaker 7: because if there's someone who doesn't have a social media
Speaker 7: presence short of like a voicemail greeting, how would someone
Speaker 7: get your voice. But yeah, it's it's a common tactic, folks.
Speaker 7: Man have seen the story, you know that Ferrari was
Speaker 7: almost had a bunch of money stolen using this very
Speaker 7: technique where the quote CEO of Ferrari was, you know,
Speaker 7: instructing the CFO of Ferrari over a phone call after
Speaker 7: some previous messaging to go do something. And eventually the
Speaker 7: CFO that the Chief Finance Office that something's not right
Speaker 7: here and asked the CEO about a book recommendation that
Speaker 7: the CEO had made, which of course the gamer couldn't answer.
Speaker 7: But yeah, we're seeing this boat, you know, as a
Speaker 7: tax on corporations as well as a tax on individuals
Speaker 7: because you know, if you can, if you could scam
Speaker 7: a couple thousand dollars out of this individual as a
Speaker 7: couple of times a day, if you're in a country
Speaker 7: where there's no jobs, no opportunity, but you got a
Speaker 7: lot of time on your hands and access to the internet,
Speaker 7: which is where so much of this clime comes from.
Speaker 1: Southeast Well, yeah.
Speaker 7: Southeast Asia folks really need to be.
Speaker 1: Aware that this is the thing.
Speaker 2: Sadly, yes, indeed, well, thank you for spreading the awareness.
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