WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:00.440 Day. 2 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:05.120 Even know people are now voting early and absentee and 3 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:09.839 mail in all over the country. But election day is 4 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:14.240 still a week from tomorrow, on November fifth, when I 5 00:00:14.359 --> 00:00:16.760 will be casting my vote. I've not gotten on the 6 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:20.600 early vote train. I'll be honest with you, But I 7 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:24.160 thought it was important to talk about what happens up 8 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:28.920 to election day and what happens after election day, regardless 9 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:32.439 of the results. Some things to keep in mind and 10 00:00:32.520 --> 00:00:36.960 to help keep us upbeat and to keep us vigilant. 11 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:42.759 My friend, historian Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute, a fantastic, 12 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:49.240 brilliant writer about America and what America truly is and 13 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:52.759 should be, the author of Rediscovering America, which is a 14 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:57.479 fantastic history and tradition book on the culture here in 15 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:00.920 the good old USA. The one and only Scott Powell 16 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:04.519 joins us for a segment tonight, and Scott, how are 17 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:04.959 you doing? 18 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:06.120 Gary? 19 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:06.439 Jeff? 20 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:09.799 What a what a cordial introduction. 21 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:11.000 I'll try to live up to it. 22 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:17.920 I think the first thing that Americans, you know, have 23 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:22.159 digested now and understand is that you know we've been 24 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:27.519 living under really an unprecedented and unconstitutional abuse of government power. 25 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:32.120 The Biden Harris regime, if you will, has done things 26 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:36.560 in response to COVID nineteen, the twenty twenty election irregularities, 27 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:42.159 the January sixth protests, and particularly particularly the open border 28 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:46.439 policy that is that that has led to a place 29 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.799 in American life that it was unthinkable before their administration 30 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:53.359 that we are we have more in common with a 31 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:58.040 Banana Republican than our constitutional republic. 32 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.599 Especially when you figure you factor in you're talking banana 33 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:08.280 republic stuff, when you factor in the total persecution and 34 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:13.960 prosecution of their political opponents like Trump, that is banana republic. 35 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:15.199 That's third world stuff. 36 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.840 It is, it is, and people, you know, this is 37 00:02:19.960 --> 00:02:22.719 backfiring on them. I must say I think that I'm 38 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:28.360 I'm an optimist now more than ever because these folks 39 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:32.599 on the other side really have known no limits and 40 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:36.439 they're almost self destructing in so many different ways. Their 41 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:41.240 lawfair has backfired on them. Everything they did to Donald 42 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:42.919 Trump during his administration. 43 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:43.800 It was first. 44 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:48.159 The the the Russia Russia Russia hoax, and the hearings, 45 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:52.680 the Muller hearings, and then it was two impeachments and 46 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:58.919 and ultimately you know, he, you know, he we couldn't 47 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:02.879 successfully can test the election irregularity. And that was what 48 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:07.159 January sixth was all about doing, was just standing our 49 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:11.560 ground outside the Capitol, asking for those states that had 50 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:19.039 had irregularity in the certification process needed to withhold the certification. 51 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:22.599 I mean, it's it's the duty of elected officials to 52 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.879 certify only what they're sure of, and if there's uncertainty, 53 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:26.800 you don't certify. 54 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:28.960 And that was the hope that we could. 55 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:35.039 Just get those states that were unsure that they could certify, 56 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:38.000 to have the courage to send the ballots back and 57 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:43.319 to do, you know, a forensic study, yes, study of 58 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.879 really what happened. But unfortunately j six in some ways 59 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:52.479 may have actually affected it in the opposite way that 60 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:56.520 it was intended. Because it's interesting that the break ins 61 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:01.039 and the violence that happened, and it was not really widespread, 62 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.800 but it was it was enough to cause the Congress 63 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:08.800 to the Congress had been gathered to do this certification, 64 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:12.879 and suddenly when they heard that the capital was her assault, 65 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:15.840 they all, you know, they all were directed to safe 66 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.120 quarters right where they where they hung out for some 67 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:23.920 hours and then they went back to the certification process 68 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:26.120 in the in the evening, I think around eight o'clock 69 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.959 at night, after basically everyone, you know, the j six 70 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:34.160 event was over. They went back, but they they felt 71 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:38.680 a pressure to get it done, you know that, and 72 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.319 so it back, you know that. So the unfortunately, what 73 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:46.560 was hoped to be a peaceful a peaceful support for 74 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:53.160 election integrity did not It didn't happen, and the certification 75 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:55.879 was carried out, and then it became more. 76 00:04:55.720 --> 00:05:01.639 Difficult to you know, to conduct any ch the vote. 77 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:06.120 Well, I mean, January January sixth was merely it started 78 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:11.519 out as a constitutionally guaranteed redress of grievances with the government, 79 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.560 which we're allowed to do, as American Center allowed to do. 80 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:21.519 And then because of a certain element within that crowd 81 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:26.560 that wasn't there for redress of grievances, and the FBI 82 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.920 has admitted that they had agents inside and there were 83 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:33.519 informants inside that group and people who helped foment the 84 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.560 actual violence that occurred on January sixth, twenty twenty one, 85 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:38.959 not the people who were there for a redress of 86 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:40.680 grievances with the government. 87 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:41.600 And. 88 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:46.519 So the whole thing was blown way out of proportion. 89 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.839 Yes there was violence, and yes there was some breaking 90 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:54.319 and entering, going on at the US capital. But as 91 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.480 far as somebody like AOC saying that she felt her 92 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:02.120 life was threatened, that that never really was a real 93 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:05.680 worry or concern. But of course they had to blow 94 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.199 it up to make it bigger than it was it 95 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:09.279 was it was. 96 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:13.720 You're right, Remember, remember this is what what the enemy, 97 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:17.680 the terrorists of the world used. They you know, they 98 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:21.600 wouldn't be as successful, uh in bringing about political change 99 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:25.920 unless it unless the media didn't carry the water for them, 100 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.839 the terrorists. You know, terrorism is largely a media event. 101 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.879 So that's why we we have to always be careful 102 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:37.279 about overreacting to the to the media. 103 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:40.279 So anyway, getting back to yeah, what you were talking 104 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:42.199 about before you were so rudely interrupted. 105 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.560 It's okay, don't worry, but but I think that you know, 106 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:50.000 it's the border problem that really has gotten all the 107 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:55.000 Americans' attention. Certainly they're in Ohio in Springfield. That's certainly 108 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.199 got your attention. And you know, so what has been 109 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:04.279 this policy of bringing in massive numbers of immigrants into America. 110 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.360 Oh and by the way, it's happening in Europe as well. 111 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:07.720 Well. 112 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:10.160 It turns out that this is a U n strategy, 113 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:14.720 UH that it is called replacement migration. What the U 114 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:17.480 n what the UN's goal is to create a new 115 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:21.399 world order where the United Nations would would have a 116 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:25.560 you know, not just a you know, a titular position 117 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.439 of affecting global offense, but actually be in charge a 118 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:32.079 new world order where the UN would really have a 119 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:37.319 governing voice. And they want to break down Western countries, UH, 120 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.079 the United States in particular. And this is a strategy 121 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:44.759 that they that they've written about. Replacement migration means displacing 122 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:49.600 the native people with immigrants that don't that that don't integrate, 123 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:53.319 that can't assimilate, h and can create big problems. 124 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:54.040 They don't want. 125 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:59.759 They don't want individual countries to have their own individual cultures, 126 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:05.560 because that way they can install their global culture and 127 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:12.079 replace the culture that's already been hard earned by generations 128 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:15.759 of people who believe in certain values and speak a 129 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.639 certain language, and eat certain foods and listen to certain 130 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:20.480 music and all of the rest of the things that 131 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.600 go in to our and pray to the One and 132 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.240 only God and have Judaeo Christian values. If they can 133 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.800 eliminate that, then it's much easier for them to take 134 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.360 over everything well, a whole new culture. 135 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:38.360 Absolutely absolutely, when people forget their heritage, they have no 136 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:41.120 memory of the past. This is what nineteen eighty four 137 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:44.840 described very clearly, and brave new worlds of that matter 138 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:47.879 as well. We've been warned that this is the goal 139 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:53.000 of the globalists, you know, to break down, to demoralize 140 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:59.399 first and then to create a destabilization or disorientation of 141 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.559 the people. And in that environment it's very easy to 142 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.759 carry out a crisis, and the crisis, we could say 143 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:07.519 that we are in the crisis stage. We've been in 144 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:10.279 the crisis stage since the last election, because if the 145 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:16.120 election wasn't really bonafied, if the election produced a false 146 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:19.279 result in it would appear that it did. And certainly 147 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:22.679 the policies that have been inflicted on us have done 148 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:27.480 more to take America down than any other administration in 149 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:28.519 the history of the country. 150 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:29.600 There's no doubt about that. 151 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:34.000 As you write in the town hall piece, it's the 152 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:38.679 great reversal, not the great reset. Yeah, you mentioned you 153 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:46.519 mentioned that. On top of all this massive border invasion 154 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:49.159 that has been going on and encouraged by the Biden 155 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:53.000 Harris administration and smiled upon by the globalist at the 156 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:57.600 UN we've also become because of this, the number one 157 00:09:57.639 --> 00:10:00.879 country in the world in human and child traffic, in 158 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:06.279 criminal gang activity, and seating our territory for insurrection and 159 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:10.679 direct terrorist attacks because of the unvetted open border and 160 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:14.960 and all of this, and letting the cartels basically be. 161 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:19.120 The people in charge of. 162 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:22.200 Well, the cartels have reached They not just reached into 163 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.320 our across the border and control some of our territory 164 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:31.120 and in criminal networks within the United States, but they're 165 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.600 having a seat at the table politically now. They've got 166 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:38.559 so much money that there's no doubt in most people's 167 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:41.960 mind that have studied Arizona, for instance, that the transformation 168 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:46.399 of Arizona is largely has come in part by the 169 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:48.840 massive amounts of money that are coming in through the 170 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:53.159 cartel to the drug trafficking and human trafficking. It's just 171 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:57.120 huge amounts of money, and they want to protect their franchise, right, 172 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:57.840 So what do they do. 173 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:01.759 They buy politicians. It's not hard to understand. 174 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:03.120 No, uh. 175 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:06.519 And at the same time, Arizona still seems to be 176 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:10.840 one of those states that may buck the trend of 177 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:12.200 all of this incursion. 178 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:17.080 They you know, they really had both thrown on steroids 179 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:18.200 during twenty. 180 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.559 Yeah, Scott, your your phone just decided to not work 181 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:25.519 all of a sudden. 182 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.480 Really, you know, now you're back. 183 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.360 Yeah, but you mentioned twenty twenty two and carry Lake. 184 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.840 What was supposed to be a red the red wave 185 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:38.480 in Congress that turned out it was. 186 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.879 But you know what, you know, God's still in charge. 187 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:42.679 He's on a throne. 188 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:43.000 Amen. 189 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.200 And the things that have happened in the past, sometimes 190 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.559 we don't understand them, but they set up the positive 191 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:52.480 move that God really has in mind. Let's hope that 192 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:57.360 that's carry Lake being elected Senator from Arizona because in 193 00:11:57.399 --> 00:12:01.679 many ways having her in the Senate could be more 194 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:03.279 important than having her as governor. 195 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:07.279 Yeah, you mentioned about in this piece. You mentioned about 196 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:12.879 Kamala Harris being anointed and replacing Joe Biden without a 197 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.440 single vote cast for her, and my friend Rick Robinson, 198 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:19.039 who wrote a book called nineteen sixty eight, said that. 199 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:20.919 There's a similarity there. 200 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:24.159 In nineteen sixty eight, and may be the only one 201 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:27.559 is that Hubert Humphrey did not win one single primary 202 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.559 in nineteen sixty eight and yet was the Democrat's banner 203 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:34.000 carrier as their presidential candidate in that election. So it 204 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:38.000 has happened before that someone did not get a vote 205 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.399 in a primary or did not win the primary election 206 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:42.840 or the nomination. 207 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:48.039 By Humphrey was on the ballot. 208 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.320 Yeah, he was. He was on the ballot, rightamalo Wa. 209 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.080 There was no primary vote for Kamala Harris, no, none. 210 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:56.519 No voting, And that's another Banana Republic kind of thing. 211 00:12:57.480 --> 00:12:57.679 Yeah. 212 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:01.399 Absolutely, But I think there's there's reason for great hope. 213 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:05.559 And you know, despite the challenges we face, we should 214 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.039 never forget that God has the power to remove corrupt 215 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.879 leaders and defeat evil. And I suggest that everyone go 216 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.080 back to the Book of Psalms. There's so much wisdom 217 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:17.960 in there. But the Psalms ninety four to twenty three 218 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.200 reminds us that quote He has brought back their wickedness 219 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:26.320 upon them and will destroy them in their evil, And 220 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:30.240 that sort of describes what's happening to the other side 221 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.320 right now. They're almost self destructing. And then some goes 222 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.639 on to say, the Lord, our God will destroy them. 223 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:40.159 So is that happening could be. But we're also reminded 224 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:42.679 in the New Testament, in the Gospel of Luke, that 225 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:47.120 everything can be reversed, that God has the ability to 226 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:53.200 you know, to make the last first and the first last. 227 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:57.639 That is to say that we could have a reversal 228 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:01.639 where the people in power, who are considered to be 229 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.200 sort of they're the politicians, they know they're the first. No, 230 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:08.240 the people are really the first, and that the people 231 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:11.600 are going to have a bigger voice now than ever 232 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:14.480 before in this election, and that we're going to have 233 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:18.200 a government that reflects the people's wishes. That would just 234 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:20.879 be the greatest blessing that we could get out of 235 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:21.360 this election. 236 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:24.200 Scott Powell, in your piece in the town hall that 237 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:29.159 we're referencing here, you also talk about the existence of 238 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:33.519 over seven hundred detention camps built across the country. I 239 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.559 thought that was a wild conspiracy theory for a while, 240 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:39.840 but it's actually the truth. And over the last twenty 241 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:44.039 years they've built these detention centers to provide quote, national 242 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:48.360 essential functions in the event of a catastrophic emergency under 243 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:51.799 the control of the President and DHS, of which FEMA 244 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:55.799 is a part. These have been used sporadically in response 245 00:14:55.840 --> 00:15:00.559 to national disasters or natural disasters, but there are plenty 246 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:04.320 of groups out there pointing the likelihood that these facilities 247 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.759 being used to detain American citizens for resistance and allege 248 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:11.799 crimes against the state. That's more Banana Republic stuff is 249 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:13.519 not if it's true. 250 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:18.240 It you know, I don't you know, I'm just repeating 251 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:19.960 what I've heard from people. 252 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:21.399 That I respect and trust. 253 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:26.039 But I I I can't really, you know, we just 254 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:28.559 there are things we just don't know. We'd have to 255 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:32.639 be insiders to know. And and that's why the free press, 256 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:35.399 you know, our freedom of speech is so important that 257 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:40.440 any incursion or rollback of our ability to speak freely 258 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:45.159 should you know, it is alarming and must be resisted 259 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:50.480 because it's only through a robust competition of ideas of 260 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.200 reporting about things that we really get to the truth. 261 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:56.559 Uh, you know, the evil. 262 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:01.679 Evil grows and expands in darkness. So think of you know, 263 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:03.080 think of the press as. 264 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:05.279 Being the light. We want to shine the light. 265 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:08.559 And unfortunately we have a largely corrupt mainstream press now 266 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:12.320 that simply won't cover things, cover certain topics and then 267 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:15.600 has a preference for covering others. But I think it's 268 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.720 all changing. You know, you just have the rise of 269 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:23.159 this alternative media now and you're really in that vanguard. Gary, Jeff, 270 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.960 I mean, you know, I want to tell all your 271 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:28.279 listeners right now that you know, having done a lot 272 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:30.679 of talk shows across the country, that there are very 273 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:35.120 few who are as gifted is Gary Jeff Walker. So 274 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:40.120 and his success depends upon listenership. So let's grow his 275 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:43.879 listenership because as his listenership grows and is, the advertising 276 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:47.679 revenues grow and the business model works better. So get 277 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:50.279 all your friends and family to listen to Gary Jeff. 278 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.679 Well, thank you, Scott Powell. And by the way, if 279 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:57.440 you've never gotten a copy of Rediscovering America, look for that. 280 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:00.960 Scott Powell is the author and it is It says 281 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:05.359 so much about what can be, what has been, and 282 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:09.279 what can be again in this country. And with just 283 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:15.160 a week left before the final day to vote, get 284 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:19.519 out there and vote. And we would encourage everyone because 285 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:24.119 the bigger the turnout, the better the results for the 286 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:28.559 most of us. I believe, yes, I agree, all right, Scott, 287 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:33.559 thank you so much for your time this evening. God 288 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:39.559 bless you. Anyway, we continue on the night cap and 289 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:46.480 still to come, Frank Lassie, John O'Connor, Douglas, Ernest Bianca 290 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:50.359 de la Garza and the wild Man. Of those I 291 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:54.359 just listed, you probably only know the wild Man find 292 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.799 out about the rest in minutes on seven hundred WLW 293 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:03.640 about the green energy the goras President Trump calls it 294 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.519 the green new scam. This is along the lines of 295 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.359 that discussion, I believe, although we haven't had the discussion yet, 296 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:15.519 he is standing by the author of Climate and Energy Lies, Expensive, dangerous, 297 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:20.519 and destructive, that author, Frank Less, and he joins us 298 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:23.000 tonight on the Nightcap. Frank, how are you doing, And 299 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:24.279 it's great to have you on the show. 300 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.960 Well, thanks for having me on, and I'm fantastic and 301 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:29.880 I hope everyone out there listening is as well. 302 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.200 So what is your background number one when it comes 303 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:35.079 to energy and climate? 304 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:38.000 What did you know and when did you know it? 305 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:42.519 Frank Well, I was in the Wisconsin legislature for a 306 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.039 number of years, served as a Wisconsin Senator and then 307 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:49.960 Governor Walker's administration, and I went probably by it's a 308 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:52.160 long time ago now, a couple decades ago. I went 309 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:55.240 to a couple of full day senators or a seminar, 310 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:59.640 a full day seminar for legislators talking about climate change 311 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.079 and getting the facts with some really knowledgeable people about it. 312 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.799 And I remember coming away from that because actually we've 313 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.640 been warming out of the Little Ice Age, and the 314 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.240 climate scamsters and media propagandists of you know, sell us 315 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:17.720 on it. It's warmer than the pre industrial times, as 316 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:21.079 at pre industrial times were somehow magical and life was 317 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:25.119 hard for most humans pre industrial times, and we died 318 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:30.200 before forty on average because life was hard. And the 319 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.279 Little Ice Age was a cold period that's well documented 320 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:36.160 around the world from about thirteen fifty to eighteen fifty, 321 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:38.119 and then we've been warming out of it ever since, 322 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:41.759 and glaciers have been generally retreating since then. And I 323 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.519 remember seeing all these facts of wow, this, you know, 324 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.079 they're telling us things that just aren't true. And then 325 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.559 I came back into the legislature and I talked to 326 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:51.920 people in interest groups and various ones and say, you know, 327 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:53.400 we got to stop this stuff. And they said, well, 328 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.400 what legislation is there to react to, and there wasn't 329 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:00.759 very much. But it's all been done through slowly constricting 330 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:04.480 regulations in Biden and Harris to put these regulations just 331 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:06.960 on steroids, and people are going to be you know, 332 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:10.200 if we don't change directions, you're going to be very surprised. 333 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:13.319 They've had literally tens of thousands dollars to cost the 334 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:15.680 new houses in the future just two or three years. 335 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:18.319 They put it off because they don't want to happen immediately, 336 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:23.160 because they're adding more efficiency standards to our already our 337 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.519 dishwashers take two and a half hours to complete. You've 338 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:27.799 got to rense everything in advance, and still you might 339 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:29.920 have to put things through again. They want to make 340 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:33.480 those even more efficient somehow, and they're literally everything. When 341 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.839 you have a hot water heater that's going to wear 342 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:39.200 out because they last ten to fifteen years on average. 343 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.720 Right in the future, if we don't change directions, you 344 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:45.759 can't just spend less than one thousand dollars placing your 345 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:47.960 water heater. No, you're going to get a heat water 346 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.960 heat pump water heater that's going to cost you three 347 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:55.519 to five thousand dollars. Rude awakening on a lot of 348 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:59.119 these different issues, and it's all for not really. So 349 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:02.000 even if I'm wrong and others who I would say 350 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:04.680 our climate realists are wrong and it is CO two 351 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:07.839 heating the earth, well, what about China and India that 352 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.400 we don't really talk about that are you know, literally 353 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:14.440 building thousand, one thousand coal plants that last forty to 354 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:18.599 seventy five years, and that you know, India gets seventy 355 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.519 five percent of all of their energy, not just electricity, 356 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:24.680 all their energy from coal. China gets fifty six percent 357 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:28.000 from coal. And they're both building lots of coal plants, 358 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:30.200 and the rest of the world that isn't in the 359 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.839 twenty nine industrialized nations. I'm throwing China in that mix. 360 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:37.799 They're wanted to move two billion people want to move 361 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:40.759 off of burning wood and dung for cooking and heating 362 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:45.720 their homes onto other things. And our leftist in the 363 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.599 West answers, well, just wait for wind and soil or someday, 364 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:51.680 don't build a coal plant that can give you reliable, 365 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.000 affordable energy. No, no, no, not that, but you just 366 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:57.480 keep burning that wood and dung. I mean, there's so 367 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:00.000 much craziness with it. But the point is, even if 368 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:02.359 I were wrong and CO two is causing me, which 369 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.799 is just prepared for it because we're not stopping emissions. 370 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:10.519 China has more real pollution and more CO two emissions 371 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.759 than all industrial nations combined. 372 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:19.119 And they are not observing any protocols from the UN 373 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:23.920 or Kyoto or the Paris Climate Accords. They're not observing 374 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:28.240 any of those protocols that the West is being subjected to, 375 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:31.079 and we're being told that we have to do if 376 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:34.880 we want to save the planet, that the coastal cities 377 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.359 will all be underwater very soon. I've seen the data 378 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:43.839 frank On Gregory from Gregory Rightstone at the CO two Coalition. 379 00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:45.440 I don't know if you're familiar with their work. 380 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:50.920 They do great work, provide actual data on what's actually 381 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:55.039 going on with CO two and the climate and global temperatures. 382 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.039 And a man named Steve Gorum who's written several books 383 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:02.480 on energy and climate, and he's a fantastic guest. You're 384 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:05.799 right in line with these folks. But i'd love is 385 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:09.680 the title of your book, Climate and Energy lies Expensive, 386 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:14.480 dangerous and destructive. You talked about the expensive part a 387 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:16.920 little bit when it comes to the heat pump water 388 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:19.440 heater that you may be mandated to buy instead of 389 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:23.240 your regular water heater. As you mentioned that, you know 390 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.880 it goes for around eight hundred do one thousand dollars 391 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.279 and then if you've got a if you've got a 392 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:30.640 brother in law who can install it, then that's that's 393 00:23:30.680 --> 00:23:34.799 your cost. Maybe a slice of pizza to the advanced 394 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:38.079 heat pump water heater you were talking about, to three 395 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:43.640 to five thousand dollars gas stoves. Clean natural gas is 396 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:47.319 being targeted, and we have all of this liquid natural 397 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:50.240 gas underneath our feet in America. And the President Trump 398 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.559 has made it very clear that upon being re elected, 399 00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:59.880 if he is, that all these mandates that were again 400 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:05.200 done by executive order and by agencies, not by elected 401 00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:08.920 officials or the president as an elected official just wielding 402 00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:14.960 unbelievable tyrannical power with executive orders. But President Trump has 403 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:19.279 said from the get that we are going to drill, drill, drill. 404 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:21.359 We're not going to put the restrictions that have been 405 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.839 put on by the Biden Harris administration, for example in 406 00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:29.119 fracking and in offshore drilling and on federal land and 407 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:31.480 all of the things that have been done to reverse 408 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:36.519 the Trump energy policies. We should be okay, we should 409 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:39.799 come out of the woods. All right if that occurs. 410 00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:45.160 But let's talk about we talked about the expensive, let's 411 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:47.279 talk about the dangerous part of this. 412 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:56.839 Well, what's dangerous is having unreliable electricity. And that's what 413 00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.519 wind and solar are giving us. Because they're both very 414 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:03.319 part time I'm anybody who has a solar panel or noses, 415 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.759 and I have a little fountain out in front of 416 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:11.880 my house. They don't produce any or very little electricity 417 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:13.720 the first hour and last hour of the day, when 418 00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.160 it's very cloudy, when it's raining, when it's snowing, when 419 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.599 there's bad weather, so they produce no electricity. Then the 420 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:23.519 wind towers only produce electricity when the wind's blowing, and 421 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:28.039 the wind is not blowing a wopping seventy percent of 422 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.240 the time. And right now I'm looking out my window 423 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.440 and I can see the trees are just plain still, 424 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:36.200 so there's no wind here now. So what happens is is, 425 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:38.799 in order to have full time electricity, we have to 426 00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.359 have on demand electric plants, which are natural gas, coal, 427 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:46.200 and nuclear power with some hydro electric built into there. 428 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.640 But that's a small proportion. We've kind of built that 429 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:51.680 all out. So by adding wind and solar to our 430 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.920 electric grid, our electric grid is getting far more expensive. 431 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.480 That's one of those other big allyes about the expense 432 00:25:57.559 --> 00:25:59.440 that somehow wind and solar is free and they'll be 433 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:02.240 cheaper all time. And the way I help regular people 434 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.519 understand it, so you could tell somebody else to help 435 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:06.960 them make the connection is you got your gas car, 436 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:09.759 and then the government says, you know, you could buy 437 00:26:09.799 --> 00:26:11.720 a solar car so you don't have to use your 438 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.799 gas car, and it only works like with solar panels, 439 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:16.680 so it only works when the sun shining. So you 440 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:18.839 buy that and the government pays thirty percent for you 441 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:21.240 to buy it and thirty percent rebate on every mile 442 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.079 you drive with it, because that's what we're giving to 443 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.319 wind and solar with all those huge, massive subsidies, they 444 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:31.000 wouldn't exist. Now you're paying for two cars. Car costs 445 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:34.319 just went up a lot. Then you buy a wind 446 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:36.680 powered car because the solar is not working very well, 447 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.640 and they say, well, you know when it's not the 448 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:40.519 sun isn't shining, the wind will be blowing, so you 449 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.200 can drive that car. Then you find out you can't 450 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:44.119 take it to the soccer game or it will work 451 00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.400 because the wind might not be blowing in the afternoon 452 00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:48.359 or at the end of the game. So now you've 453 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.119 got three cars. And to make the analogy more fitting 454 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.000 to what's going on with the electric grid is you 455 00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.960 can't turn off coal and natural gas very easily or 456 00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.359 turn them down and produce nothing. With them, so they 457 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.640 run and spin reserve. So you have these billion dollar 458 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.559 plants and the real cost is in the capital costs 459 00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:08.119 of paying for the darn thing and the people that 460 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:09.599 have to run it. They have to be there all 461 00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:11.839 the time, and then you have to keep it idling. 462 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.720 The industry calls it spending reserve, so they're making they're 463 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.160 keeping it running because you've got to ramp it up 464 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.240 whenever whenever the wind and solar aren't operating, which is frequently. 465 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.079 So now to make that analogy with the car, the 466 00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.119 same you have to leave your car and your garage 467 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.240 idling all the time because you have to jump in 468 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.880 it to rescue the other cars where they can't perform. 469 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.480 It's crazy world, and it's really expensive, and it's even 470 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.160 worse because it's inflation causing from the fact that we're 471 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.000 spending money we don't have, so we're borrowing money adding 472 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.119 to our thirty five trillion dollar national debt. We're adding 473 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:50.079 more money to a trillion dollar year interest payments on 474 00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:53.839 that debt now, and then worse, we're buying eighty percent 475 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.640 of the things I just mentioned, including electric batteries for 476 00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.400 cars and all the stuff that goes in electric batteries 477 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.440 from the communist Chinese who are using it to grow 478 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.920 their economy at our expense and grow their military to 479 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:10.519 confront us. And they are international bullies, and they are 480 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.200 totalitarians at home controlling their own people. And they're the 481 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:18.279 low cost providers why because they use cheap, reliable coal energy. 482 00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.960 They have a million people locked up and are using 483 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.319 them for slave labor, and their labor costs are much 484 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:27.000 much lower. And they have very few environmental protection laws 485 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.640 and use a lot of acids and bad chemicals and 486 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.240 have a lot of waste when you process lithium and 487 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.240 cobalt to make those batteries, and they actually have to 488 00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.519 go into some of that and goes into wind and 489 00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.680 solar as well. And they are the low cost provider 490 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.359 and will be for a number of years, and they 491 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.119 can undercut all of the market. So we're adding to 492 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:51.119 inflation by not only making our energy costs more expensive. 493 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:55.000 That add for inflation because and food inflation in particular, 494 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:56.920 because you've got to use a lot of energy to 495 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.279 plant that harvested, process it, cool it, bring it to 496 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.559 our houses, bring it to the grocery store. The grocery 497 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.519 storess keep it and cool it, and then we use 498 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:06.799 it at home and we cook it with our own energy. 499 00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.200 All those things get built into the costs of everything 500 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:13.599 we buy, so we have inflation on the energy level. 501 00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:16.319 And Trump understands this. If we have a lot more 502 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:20.279 energy available, well things will cost less. And if we 503 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.160 stop this crazy borrowing and adding to our thirty five 504 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.759 trillion national debt, that will also have an anti inflationary effect. 505 00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.160 So those things prices will start to come down again. 506 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.519 But if we elect Harris, which you know, if that 507 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.960 should happen, I'm really concerned we won't recognize our country 508 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.640 in four years. But she is even worse than Biden 509 00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:41.880 on these issues. That's how we won't talk about them 510 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.759 because people don't want to be forced into an electric car. 511 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:46.680 You really expensive, Frank. 512 00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.839 All you need to know about Kamala Harris is that 513 00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:54.319 her values haven't changed. So all of the double talk 514 00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:57.519 and the backtracking her campaign has given us on her 515 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:01.839 radical views that she has publicly stated. She's on record 516 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:07.960 saying things that no one in America would vote for, 517 00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:13.039 and even Democrats didn't vote for in the twenty twenty primary. 518 00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:17.240 That's why she dropped out and was appointed vice president. 519 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:22.759 But her values haven't changed. Just remembered that when you 520 00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:23.920 go to the post. 521 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:27.000 Directly from her, she's directly from her. She said that, 522 00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.160 And you know, she's got the endorsement of every single 523 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.880 green crazy group out there, some of which wouldn't even 524 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.519 endorse Biden because he wasn't extreme enough, so they with 525 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.000 held their endorsement from Biden, but they've given it to Harris. 526 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:44.079 But she isn't talking about these issues. So what do 527 00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.119 they know that they're hiding from the rest of us 528 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.440 Because the rest of us, as you pointed out, we 529 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:53.039 wouldn't vote for this, We wouldn't vote to be forced 530 00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:55.680 into electric cars. And what's even worse about electric cars, 531 00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:58.680 there's a larger globalist agenda with this is they want 532 00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:02.119 to force and make elections, regular cars too expensive for 533 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.720 regular people to drive. They want to limit our freedoms. 534 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:08.920 They want to make energy, energy, and food prices really 535 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.519 expensive so they can ration them and control all of us. 536 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:16.680 Do those rations each ev there's a great study by 537 00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.160 the Texas Public Policy Foundation tpp APP and you can. 538 00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:21.880 Find it online about. 539 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.240 The real costs of the subsidies of electric vehicles. And 540 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.640 they're making multi billion, like four or five billion dollar 541 00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:32.119 transfer payments from Ford and GM and other gas car 542 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.559 makers because they have outrageous mile per gallon standards, so 543 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.559 they have to buy credits from Tesla and other EV 544 00:31:39.759 --> 00:31:42.680 makers in the tune of billions of dollars. So we're 545 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.720 paying thousands of dollars more for every single gas. 546 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:46.039 Car we buy. 547 00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:50.839 And because new cars cost more, used cars cost more. 548 00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:54.519 So they're screwing the regular guy every which way, and 549 00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:58.240 most of us have no idea and would just be 550 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.079 upset if we understood this. 551 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:00.920 Well, Frank. 552 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:05.079 The other thing that's also very dangerous in this discussion, 553 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:09.759 and you mentioned forcing people to buy these evs, the 554 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:15.759 electric vehicles not only are not internal combustion engines, which 555 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.559 we have readily available sources for, they run on lithium 556 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.680 batteries which have proved to be very volatile yet at 557 00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.200 this stage of their development, if they catch fire, you 558 00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.000 can't put them out. They just have to burn out. 559 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.160 If it's cold and you can't charge them on a 560 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:38.920 winter's day, could be you could be frozen somewhere, stranded 561 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.440 in a minus thirty degree windshill on some highway out 562 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.839 in the middle of nowhere because there's no place to 563 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:49.240 charge your ev And here's the most dangerous part to me. 564 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:53.720 When you talk about trying to restrict people's movement and 565 00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:59.079 make regular cars too expensive for the plain old folks 566 00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.400 like you and me to buy. Here's the other part, 567 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:06.920 and this is with internal combustion engines, with evs, With 568 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:11.200 any modern car today, it is a rolling computer on 569 00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:16.359 wheels that can be controlled remotely from somewhere. If they 570 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:20.079 don't like your freedom of movement in one direction or another, 571 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.359 how easy would it be for them just kill the engine, 572 00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.279 or to turn your engine into your car into a 573 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.160 weapon if a terrorist cyber attack occurred. 574 00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:36.039 They do this in China now. They control people's movement 575 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:41.000 through their telephone use and they give them a citizenship's 576 00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:43.839 course for lack of a better word. And if you're 577 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:46.759 a good little commi, then you have a high score 578 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.200 and you can do what you want. You can borrow money, 579 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.839 you can buy things from the grocery store, you can 580 00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:54.920 drive your car, you can take buses. But if you're 581 00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:58.160 not or if you criticize the regime at all, and 582 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:01.920 it's sound familiar here about sizing the regime that's power, 583 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:05.640 then they're going to control you and make you. You 584 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.839 can't borrow money, you can't. They even go so far 585 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:09.760 as to not let you use the internet or watch 586 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.920 Netflix or their version of it. You can't play video 587 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.239 games even if your score gets too low. So they're 588 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.559 out to control people. And there are people here on 589 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.360 the left that think that's a good idea and they 590 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:23.039 should do that to all of us. But their agenda 591 00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:26.559 of making cars, and back to the electric vehicles, if 592 00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:32.280 we stop selling gas cars, the electric vehicle prices with skyrocket, 593 00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:35.119 they would be thirty forty thousand dollars more expensive than 594 00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.400 they are now, and they have the resale value. Just 595 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.159 playing sucks. And then you're talking about the dangerous part 596 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.840 of it. There are more and more reports coming out all. 597 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:44.000 Around the world now. 598 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:49.519 Taiwan just had nine electric buses catch on fire and burn, burn, burn, 599 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:55.079 and that burning is like releases terrible caustic, bad chemicals 600 00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:58.599 on people. There is a fire fire, new fire, brand 601 00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.159 new fire station with a brand new electric truck in 602 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.159 it in Germany that burned to the ground because that 603 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:08.320 bus is caught on fire. These fires are happening all 604 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.599 over their reports after the two hurricanes are very susceptible 605 00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:15.639 to saltwater flooding. If those batteries get flooded and wet. 606 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:20.440 Then there's been literally several dozen spontaneous electric fires from 607 00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:24.000 electric vehicles. And then think about this and the instance 608 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.079 of hurricanes. One of those twenty seven million people that 609 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.320 live in Florida, and you know, a couple million wanted 610 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.079 to evacuate and get out of the eye of the hurricane. 611 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.440 They could all charge their electric vehicles at once. 612 00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:36.119 I think not. 613 00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:37.679 Then they get on the road and. 614 00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.199 Spend multi hours on that road, and then they're they're 615 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.800 running out of electricity for their car. Well, they could 616 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.960 stop someplace and charge it up. And even if there 617 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.480 were a lot of chargers, and you know, the Biden regime, 618 00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:50.559 by the way, spend I think seven billion dollars to 619 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.960 build maybe a dozen stations around the country. 620 00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:56.880 Frank, Frank, listen, I'm sorry, we're running out of time, 621 00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.440 and this, this conversation deserves so much more more time 622 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.559 than this. The book is Climate and Energy Lies, Expensive, dangerous, 623 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.599 destructive of the author is frankles say. 624 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:09.239 The book's out now right. 625 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.360 Frank, Yes, it's on Amazon, and you can also find 626 00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.840 out more where we make the complex world of energy 627 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.400 and climate more understandable for regular people. 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We are just eight days 639 00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:00.199 away from election day, and we got one of the 640 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.400 great legal minds who actually puts himself out there to talk, 641 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.480 a former federal prosecutor and author of books like The 642 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.079 Mysteries of Watergate, What Really Happened and Postgate, How the 643 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:16.199 Washington Post betrayed deep Throat, covered up Watergate, and began 644 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:19.239 today's partisan advocacy journalism. 645 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.840 And that's the key right there, is that. 646 00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:29.440 Journalism hasn't been said by others is dead as it 647 00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.840 used to be known, as far as an objective point 648 00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.400 of view, as far as looking at all sides of 649 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:40.239 a story and reporting the facts. Only we don't have 650 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:46.119 that anymore, mostly in American media. And this is not 651 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:48.320 I don't advertise this as. 652 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.280 A news show. This is a talk show. 653 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.280 We like to think that we bring news and bring 654 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:58.000 things to people's attention in our reporting and our interviews, 655 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.199 but this is a commentary show. You know where I 656 00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:03.760 stand if you listen at all to this show, you 657 00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:07.400 know where I am politically, on the political side of 658 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.000 which isle. You know that I'm a Donald Trump supporter. 659 00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:11.920 You know that I. 660 00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:18.480 Espouse conservative so called values as opposed to the woke. 661 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:27.159 But news departments all over this country, media departments in 662 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:32.159 under the guise of news, have been reporting things that 663 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:37.239 are not facts. They're just reporting their ideas and their 664 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.639 side of facts. You maybe get one side of the 665 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:44.519 story if you're lucky. John O'Connor is the man I'm 666 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:47.199 talking about, and he joins us now to talk about 667 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.559 election twenty twenty four and so much more. 668 00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.840 Good evening, John, how are you hey, Great to be 669 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.679 with you. Sorry for that rambling intro, but. 670 00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.960 It's no makes sense. 671 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:01.920 Great to have you with us again. 672 00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:08.400 And I uh, I want to say first off that 673 00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:15.039 in our last conversation about Postgate and the conversation we've 674 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.480 had in the books you've done really really have been enlightening. 675 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:24.000 And what has gone on since you are a former 676 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:29.400 federal prosecutor and you studied these legal issues your entire life. 677 00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:34.880 But what has the Biden Harris DOJ been like when 678 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:39.360 it comes to it hearing the Constitution and to actually 679 00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:42.199 making you feel like you've got a system that works 680 00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:42.880 for everybody. 681 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:46.760 Well, I'm a little disappointed, and I guess I would 682 00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.880 say I'm greatly disappointed at when I was in the 683 00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.960 US Attorney's ofuficin San Francisco, you couldn't tell who was 684 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.480 a Republican, who is a Democrat, or how the how 685 00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.280 the office lean That's just not what we did, and 686 00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:06.519 we would be ashamed if political leanings came out. Now 687 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:10.079 what we've got is a Justice Department that I'm afraid 688 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:16.639 it's like so many other institutions in our society, it's 689 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:21.159 gone toward the you know, toward the partisan. Everybody has 690 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.800 to be a partisan. And you see that in the 691 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:27.400 last election where the FBI, and this is stunning because 692 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.559 the FBI was always so straight and then in the 693 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.760 last election, having had hunter Byder's laptop Biden's laptop for 694 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:38.400 two years, and knowing that it was real and having 695 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:43.840 verified the serial number, FBI just went to Silicon Valley 696 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:47.239 and told everybody it was Russian disinformation. Now think about 697 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.440 that one. This is an investigative agency that's not supposed 698 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.159 to be taking part in politics. And that's what Jay 699 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.719 gar Hoover was so famous for was nobody pushed him 700 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.840 around and nobody got him to bend the FBI to 701 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.280 its partisan will. Now we have people doing this kind 702 00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:09.559 of stuff just blatantly, and John Brennan and the CIA 703 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.519 going out and blatantly being political and telling things in 704 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:20.280 saying things that aren't true, decidedly not true. And it's 705 00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.679 been an infection. And it starts with the media. The 706 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.360 media did this. And once you see that, the media 707 00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.159 is always going to go one way, and it's always 708 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.559 going to portray one side and cover up all sins. 709 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.719 If you're on one side of the fence, the natural 710 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.760 tendency is to get on that side, to get on 711 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:43.000 the side that you're never going to get criticized. And 712 00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:48.159 I might say this even as to sexual harassment, I 713 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:52.639 think until just recently, maybe until Harvey Weinstein's case, there 714 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.039 was always thought that if you're on the good old 715 00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:59.199 democratic side and you contributed to Democrats and so if 716 00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.119 what you can get away of a sexual harassment, whereas 717 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:07.280 no conservative could. Uh And and so this has infected everything. 718 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:12.880 It's infected the universities, it's infected. It starts with the media, 719 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.360 is what I would say. But it gets to the universities, 720 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:21.199 it gets to the uh, institutions of government. And it's 721 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.320 really sort of sad. And now here we are here, 722 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:28.360 we are in an election where the main statements by 723 00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.480 one political party is that the other side fascist. Yeah, 724 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:36.440 that's and that's being reported as if there was some 725 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:41.119 factual basis for it. Uh And and it's just it's 726 00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:41.960 it's just silly. 727 00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:46.280 Well, they're there's citing things that uh that John Kelly 728 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:50.639 purportedly said about President Trump back in when he was 729 00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:55.760 for a short time chief of staff, uh that Trump 730 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.639 said Hitler had had some good generals. I need generals 731 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:03.840 like Himler had, or something to that effect. But you understand, John, 732 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.159 that the left has been doing this for decades. They 733 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.480 have been throwing out the Hitler card and the fascist 734 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:15.480 card about conservatives. You know, they attacked Ronald Reagan in 735 00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.159 the same way, this is not anything that's new. 736 00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:19.760 It's just gotten. 737 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:23.559 More and more and more poisoned as time has gone along, 738 00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:28.480 as it's been more accepted that the media is just 739 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.039 going to be a cheerleader for the left and the 740 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:38.320 Democrats and be a scold for Republicans and conservatives. That 741 00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.679 is seemingly because they said it about John McCain. They 742 00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:46.239 said it about Mitt Romney, for Lord's sake, that he 743 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.320 was Hitler. So this is nothing new. This is a 744 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:53.280 page out of their old playbook. But as you mentioned, 745 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:57.159 some people just not along anyway to the drive by 746 00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:01.280 media claims that Trump is a fascist or Hitler or 747 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.000 Stalin and Mussolini all rolled into one, as the one 748 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.760 writer in The Atlantic did, and you kind of just 749 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:10.199 look at it after a while. In it, I don't 750 00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:12.320 think it moves the needle of rings hollow at all. 751 00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.559 The danger, of course, and this has been pointed out 752 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.920 by Republicans and people of the Trump campaign. The danger 753 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:25.000 is it inspires these kind of whack jobs like you 754 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.280 saw in Butler Pennsylvania, or the guy that was you know, 755 00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.360 just off the golf course done to mar A Lago, 756 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.880 to do something that they ordinarily may not be triggered 757 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.000 to do capiece. 758 00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:38.440 Right. 759 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:41.360 Yeah, a couple of thoughts there. First of all, you 760 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:45.920 notice that the FBI is not releasing documents that might 761 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.679 show the motivation of the Butler PA shooter. And we 762 00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.280 know what those documents are going to show. But guess what, 763 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.440 they don't tell us what they show. They give us 764 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:57.800 a few little tidbits that have nothing to do with 765 00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:01.440 the guy's ideological underpinning, but they don't tell us how 766 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.199 the guy was influenced because I'm sure we know what 767 00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.079 would happen if they did do that, And it really 768 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:10.519 is silly. And you know something, I think if the 769 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.920 funny thing about all this fascist stuff is that, you know, 770 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:19.000 the reason you try to connect this case Trump before that, 771 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:25.199 you know, Reagan and so forth and so on and 772 00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:31.280 then Bush is because it ties them to mass murders 773 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:35.639 and taking over foreign countries. That's the reason you do it, 774 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:38.519 because that's the bad implications of it. Well, we know 775 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:41.480 that's not true. Nobody really believes that anybody's going to 776 00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.159 do what Hitler did, So what is the purpose of 777 00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.320 comparing someone to Hitler? Well, if you look at Hitler's policies, 778 00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.039 they're very progressive there. 779 00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:54.840 He's a socialist. 780 00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:01.480 He was into he was into government control, abortion, euthanasia, 781 00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:06.400 old age pensions, all sorts of things. And I'm not 782 00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:08.679 going to argue with him, and that are all very 783 00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:12.719 much lefty positions. Uh, that was that was hit He 784 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.800 was He was against organized religion and so forth. So 785 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:21.440 if you look at his policies, they're they're as they 786 00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:25.719 as you would expect of a national socialist. They were socialistic. Now, 787 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.840 the fact that he ruled with an iron fist and 788 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.000 so first so did Stalin and he's a lefty. So 789 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.719 that's the odd thing about it is they're calling the 790 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.320 pott is calling the kettle black, and uh, you know, 791 00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.639 and it's just sort of odd. And it's also very 792 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:46.360 grade schoolish. They're avoiding any real substantive debate over issues. 793 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.920 Why because they can't win on any issues. Well, but 794 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.119 the only issue they've got is abortion. 795 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:55.039 Yes, when when you look at what the Justin Biden 796 00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.599 Harris administration, and I'm not calling Joe Biden Hitler or 797 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:03.360 Kamala Harris at or Ava Brown or anything like that, 798 00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:06.039 but when you look at the Biden administration and what 799 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.800 they have done in their three and a half years, 800 00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:14.960 specifically to conservatives and to President Trump. I mean, they 801 00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:21.280 have tried to jail their opponent. They have prosecuted, persecuted, 802 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:25.719 and prosecuted wrongly, I would say, in almost all cases 803 00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:30.760 their political opponent. And that is something Hitler wouldn't have 804 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:35.519 stood for any kind of challenge to him in Nazi Germany. 805 00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:39.039 He wouldn't and you know when that happened, those people 806 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:42.079 were executed on the spot. I mean, if you want 807 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.639 to talk about anybody looking like a fascist in this 808 00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.199 country in the current political scope, you've got to point 809 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:52.599 the finger at what the Biden administration has done through 810 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.920 their Department of Justice, through the Department of Homeland Security, 811 00:47:56.719 --> 00:48:00.440 through all of the agencies that are under the executive branch, 812 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.039 and the executive orders, which have in essence taken power 813 00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.519 out of the hands of the people and giving it 814 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.000 to Washington and corporate Washington. 815 00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:16.519 Yes, that's right, and think about little things like the 816 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.880 I say little things like the when Muller was making 817 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:21.280 a lot of arrests. 818 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:21.400 In the. 819 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:26.599 During the Trump administration, what would they do. They would 820 00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:30.440 have the FBI agent's dress and paramilitary gear. Oh yeah, 821 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.800 And when Roger Stone was arrested, it was at dawn, 822 00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.760 a dawn raid, and people there were boats on the 823 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.400 canal near him, there were helicopters. They made a big 824 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.960 deal of this police state deal. The FBI would never 825 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.880 get involved in that in the past. They would say, no, 826 00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:52.280 we're not a police force. By the way, we're investigators. 827 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:56.360 That's number one. We wear suits, we don't wear paramilitary gear. 828 00:48:56.840 --> 00:48:59.039 That's number one. And number two, we're not going to 829 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.599 politicize anything. But that's not what has happened. And you 830 00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:05.559 think about that now. These FBI agents say love getting 831 00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:11.800 dressed in tactical gear. They're not soldiers, they're investigators. And 832 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:16.480 the old time FBI agents who I am in touch 833 00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:20.719 with constantly, they are repulsed by this. They hate it. 834 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.559 They see what's happened. They've been politicized. But everybody's been politicized. 835 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:30.960 Think about campuses. Campuses, you know, the instruction is politicized. 836 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.440 And it's really too bad because a democracy depends on 837 00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.360 the free exchange of ideas. I don't have to say 838 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:42.480 I'm always right. I like to hear from the other 839 00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:45.239 side because it actually sharpens me. If I find that 840 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.679 some argument I'm making is incorrect or weak, I should 841 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.360 change that argument or supplemented or revise it based upon 842 00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.079 the argument of the other side. That's the standard. The 843 00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.599 funny thing about it is the concern of us are 844 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.039 adopting what is really the standard liberal view of John 845 00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:09.440 Stuart Mill, who has always been the guy for the ACLU. 846 00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:14.559 Oh free speech, free argument, free exchange of ideas. That's 847 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:19.199 what conservatives adopt today, the classic liberal position. But the 848 00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:23.800 other side is adopting the more socialistic position of you 849 00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.880 cannot say anything against the interests of the party, or 850 00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.639 we will punish you. And that's the odd thing about it. 851 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.639 The liberals in this country are really conservative. 852 00:50:34.719 --> 00:50:38.559 Well, the liberals in this country are really Marxists, I 853 00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:43.119 mean the term that used to be used for Democrats 854 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:47.079 and people on the other side of the conservative aisle. Liberals. 855 00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:49.360 They're not liberal at all. They're Marxist. 856 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:50.000 You're right. 857 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:55.639 The conservatives are the new liberals in this environment. But 858 00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:59.199 the people that you used to call liberals are nothing 859 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.400 but Marxists, aren't they right? 860 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:05.199 Right, they're not liberals at all. No, they're not liberals 861 00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:07.559 at all. They're very much And the funny thing about 862 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.159 it is, if you look at it, they really are 863 00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:15.840 socialist authoritarians. And because every socialist, every socialist regime, can 864 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:21.079 only enforce itself by authoritarianism, because you can't get you 865 00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:25.360 can't hurt all the cats. Socialism depends on everybody marching 866 00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:29.440 to the same beat, to marching goose steppers order, and 867 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.000 you can't have that in a democracy. The two are 868 00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:36.559 not consistent with one another, but they try to do it, 869 00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.440 and they try to enforce it. And guess what happens 870 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:42.239 when somebody tries to step out of line. The state 871 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.960 media comes in and tries to punish them, and they 872 00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.079 look on with approval when the Justice Department punishes them. 873 00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:57.639 Think about the teachers in different places that are trying 874 00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.840 to not teachers, but the parents who are trying to 875 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:06.039 get their classrooms free of bias, and the Justice Department 876 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.320 goes out and looks for the parents. I mean, that's 877 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:10.280 how extreme we have gotten. 878 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.239 Parents, parents who want their values taught in public schools 879 00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.679 are considered domestic terrorists by this Department of Justice. And 880 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:23.440 Garrick Marlin Merrick Garland, the DOJ. By the way, are 881 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.559 they still deploying district elections officers to handle threats and intimidation? 882 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:31.599 John Well, I'll tell you what they're doing. They're going 883 00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:33.800 to be bringing the Justice Department. It's going to be 884 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.960 bringing people out to the polls, not to keep the 885 00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:40.880 polls fair, but to keep the poll watchers from keeping 886 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:43.880 things fair. They're out there to run interference for the 887 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.960 people who are really cheating in this election. And that's 888 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.159 the scary thing about it. That's what's going to happen 889 00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:49.840 in this election. 890 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.519 Is it going to be enough to determine this election? 891 00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:58.800 John, Well, that's the billion dollar question. 892 00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:00.440 Yeah much. 893 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:03.920 I'm very much afraid of the cheating. We know that 894 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:08.039 in both Arizona and Georgia. 895 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:10.960 There is legalized cheating. 896 00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:16.079 In Georgia, you cannot check a signature really on a ballot. 897 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:21.280 It cannot met if it doesn't match the registration. Too 898 00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:25.480 bad that vote gets counted anyway. In Arizona, people can 899 00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:30.199 vote without proof of citizenship. And how does that happen? 900 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.280 You know, you know every I looked at the list 901 00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:39.000 of countries earlier where you have to have a legitimate 902 00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:42.079 voter ID to vote in the election. It's almost every 903 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.760 country in the world except federally in the United States. 904 00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:48.880 You can't demand that in this country. It's all up 905 00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:49.960 to the states, right. 906 00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:58.000 Well, that's right, that's right, and it's it's unfortunate, it's 907 00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:01.119 just unfortunate. But that's what we've got. We've got a 908 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:02.159 terrible system here. 909 00:54:02.320 --> 00:54:05.559 Well, Arizona, Arizona's already come out and their Board of 910 00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:07.360 Elections has said it's going to be ten to twelve 911 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.000 days before we know the outcome of the election in Arizona, 912 00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:13.880 they've already admitted that. And a federal and as federal 913 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:18.280 judge telling Glenn Youngkin that he can't he can't take 914 00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:22.480 non citizens admitted self admitted non citizens off the voting 915 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.039 roles in Virginia. 916 00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:28.119 Well, that's a good example of once again we have 917 00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:33.119 an infection of politics into this. What is the weak 918 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.440 argument for saying you cannot follow the law? The law 919 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:41.119 requires Youngkin to do that. It goes to it stands 920 00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.599 to reason anyway, even if you didn't have a law, yeah, 921 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.920 you shouldn't have non citizens on the voting role. And 922 00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:51.519 yet yeah, so what is the court doing jumping in there? 923 00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:55.519 But yet the court is And that's that's what's terrible, 924 00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:00.400 because the court has been politicized. You know, the courts 925 00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:03.199 don't call balls and strikes, at least on the again, 926 00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:07.079 on the progressive side of things. It's considered cool to 927 00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.800 sort of bend the law in your direction. 928 00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:14.360 Yeah, and so the strike zone is not universal, it's 929 00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:19.039 not uniform with balls and strikes being called by our courts. Listen, John, 930 00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:21.199 I'm sorry we're out of time. I wish we had more. 931 00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:26.639 Former Federal Product Prosecutor John D O'Connor our guest tonight 932 00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:28.920 of the Nightcap, and thanks, and hopefully we'll have a 933 00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.519 chance to talk after the election. 934 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:31.920 John. 935 00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:35.360 Yeah, I hope it's a good I hope it's a 936 00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:35.840 good talk. 937 00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:39.679 Yeah, me too. We need some good news. 938 00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.760 Thank you, brother, how gooy buddy say it all right? 939 00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:46.599 It's the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW, eight days away 940 00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:53.360 from election day, and our involvement in wars in other 941 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:57.920 countries continues. I thought it'd be good to have retired 942 00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:02.880 Captain Douglas j Earn, who is, among other things, and 943 00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.599 he's a lot of different things, uh, the author of 944 00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.639 the Spirit of a True Patriot, the inspiring story of 945 00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.599 Retired Captain Douglas j Ernest. And here he is the 946 00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:15.239 man himself, the man, the myth legend, Douglas j Ernest. 947 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:16.599 Welcome to the Nightcap. 948 00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:21.239 Well, Gary, my pleasure I appreciate you having me and allowing. 949 00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.000 My voice to be heard for all your listeners. 950 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:23.719 You got it. 951 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:26.039 So where are you coming from? What part of the 952 00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:28.199 country in right now, Douglas. 953 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:31.599 I'm in the great city of Dallas Fort Worth, Texas. 954 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:34.880 Oh, there you go, the Big D, the Big D. 955 00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:41.199 There's there's no there's no joy in Jerryville, not. 956 00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:43.840 Not after yesterday's blowout. 957 00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:46.800 So now, but we're not usually on Monday morning, everybody's 958 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.719 drinking coffee and talking on to Caro selling the kitchen 959 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:51.400 today and nobody's talking. 960 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.519 Everybody's quite a pretty reserved this morning. 961 00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.360 It's it's tough to be a Cowboys fan these days, 962 00:56:56.360 --> 00:56:57.679 There's no question about that. 963 00:56:59.480 --> 00:56:59.679 You know. 964 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:03.239 There's more important things on the horizon in our country. 965 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.679 So I've been trying to stay focused on that. 966 00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:09.239 As a retired captain, what do you think about some 967 00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.519 of these top generals that are in charge of our 968 00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:16.480 military and the ones who have been, if not pushing 969 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:21.840 going along with all the trans woke nonsense that's been 970 00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:26.960 injected into our military by by political leaders and by 971 00:57:27.000 --> 00:57:30.639 political leanings. Uh, do you have any comments on the 972 00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:33.920 state of our military from the top. Yeah, I'm not 973 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:38.079 talking about the enlisted men or women, or the officers, 974 00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:41.559 the people who are out actually doing the work in 975 00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:47.440 defending our country, protecting our country and being a shining 976 00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.320 symbol for America in other parts of the world. But 977 00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:53.639 these guys at the top, they just lost their way 978 00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:57.360 or what's going on there, Doug, Well, you know. 979 00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.760 That's a great question and something a mixedly versed in 980 00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:02.679 and something I also wrote about in the book, the 981 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:05.719 book The Spirit of the True Patriot that I wrote 982 00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:09.000 is before I became a military analyst. And I have 983 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:11.679 a good friend of mine that is my mentor, who's 984 00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:14.440 actually a general in the army who stayed in after 985 00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.800 I got out twenty years ago, and he's, you know, 986 00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:20.840 very non political. He stays out of the mix because 987 00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:23.480 they can't speak when you're in that position. But when 988 00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:25.960 you're a soldier in the military, you've got to do 989 00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:29.239 what you're told. You can't just you know, voice your 990 00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:31.679 opinion because nobody wants to listen to it and you'll 991 00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:34.320 get fired. So you have to do whatever they put out. 992 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.920 The directors come from the top, and that's from the 993 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.800 executive management leadership of our country, and then it trickles 994 00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.320 down to the tentacles at the Pentagon. He gets put out. 995 00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.000 They're doing what they're told. It doesn't matter if you 996 00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.199 like it or don't like it, you have to do it. 997 00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:51.679 If we don't have that type of system, you won't 998 00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.880 have a true leadership. You won't be the powerhouse of 999 00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:58.519 the globe if you don't follow this type of succession 1000 00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:02.400 and management style. Doesn't mean they don't talk offline. And 1001 00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.400 most leaders that I've talked to in the military are 1002 00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:08.039 very unhappy with the state of affairs in the military. 1003 00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:09.039 And you can see. 1004 00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:12.000 That with the leadership and you talk to them, and 1005 00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.199 you can see it in the recruiting from the military. 1006 00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:15.280 How it's off about. 1007 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.679 Forty percent and I can't fill the ranks even though 1008 00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:19.360 the ranks are so small. 1009 00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.760 Compared to where they were twenty thirty years ye. 1010 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:23.199 Do you think that, for example, do you think a 1011 00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.599 general like Mark Milly disagrees with all the woke stuff 1012 00:59:26.599 --> 00:59:29.000 and he's just being a yes man because that's what 1013 00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:33.039 he's directed to do, or is he bought into this. 1014 00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:35.599 I would assume it's both. 1015 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:37.239 I said, you know, you've men have started out and 1016 00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:39.679 not buying into it. But when your boss is telling them, 1017 00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:41.760 you have to do this, and you believe that you're 1018 00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:45.639 patriotic duty to your country to do what the executive 1019 00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:49.000 leader said, which right now is Joe Biden. You have 1020 00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:51.400 to listen to them, and you have to buy into it. 1021 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:53.599 I was in the military and did things I didn't 1022 00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:55.599 want to do. I went to war and fired weapons 1023 00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:57.880 in the war, and I didn't want to do it. It 1024 00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.559 was against my human values of what i' thought was, 1025 01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:04.679 you know, what was right and wrong in my Christian beliefs. 1026 01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.360 But I did it because I was instructed to do it. 1027 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:08.320 And the same for him. 1028 01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:11.039 I don't know his personal thoughts, and you know, I 1029 01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:13.519 hate to disparage his service because he's been in the 1030 01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:16.440 military for you know, thirty five years and he's served 1031 01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:19.960 in many battlefields. But he has to do what he's told. 1032 01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.199 Now if you change the pendulum, and the pendulum swing 1033 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:26.079 to the other side. Hopefully in eight days when we 1034 01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:29.039 have a change of the leadership of the Guard, hopefully 1035 01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:31.760 that penda will swing and you'll see Mindy smiling and 1036 01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:34.559 doing whatever the new leadership say, if he even able 1037 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:35.440 to keep his position. 1038 01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:38.239 But right now, the state of leadership in the military 1039 01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:39.400 is in chaos. 1040 01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:42.320 We are right now, you know, fighting wars across the 1041 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:45.079 globe or interjecting ourselves and these wars that are being 1042 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.920 fought around the globe, we have no you know, sense 1043 01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:51.159 of leadership, CAMARADERIATORI ship. You know, they're doing a lot 1044 01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:54.000 of these. You know, these are experiments in the military. 1045 01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:58.400 They're not even proven principles, theoretical framework methodologies. They're just 1046 01:00:58.519 --> 01:01:02.159 experiments to see if we can interject this type of 1047 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.559 liberal thinking in our military rank and see if it 1048 01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:07.360 would be successful. We haven't gotten a final answer. 1049 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:07.800 So far. 1050 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:11.760 It's not been successful because recruiting is down so far, 1051 01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.280 the state of the military is so low. We've actually 1052 01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.920 swung the military from all the poll You can see 1053 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:22.000 that military polling has been swung to the Republican side 1054 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:22.559 even more so. 1055 01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:23.400 It's not worked. 1056 01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:24.760 But it's not over. 1057 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:28.920 You know, if we do have a Democratic House takeover, 1058 01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:30.840 you know, in eight days, it's going to. 1059 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:33.119 Get worse and worse and worse and keep evolved into 1060 01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:33.679 one side. 1061 01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:35.840 But Lord Willing, we do have a shift to the 1062 01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:37.239 Republicans in both. 1063 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.199 The Senate and ex give me him. 1064 01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:41.559 The Senate can the executive brands, and that will allow 1065 01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:43.519 some of the tension to be relieved and bring it 1066 01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:46.039 back to some sense of normalcy, if you will. 1067 01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:49.400 We're talking to Douglas j ernest On the Nightcap, author 1068 01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:54.320 of the Spirit of a True Patriot. Number one, what 1069 01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:56.880 inspired you to join the military in the first place? 1070 01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.239 And then number two, what inspired you to write the book? 1071 01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:03.360 Oh, you know, a lot of this I talked about 1072 01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:05.239 in my book. You know, I hope your viewers will, 1073 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:08.719 you know, take a way to donate to a Veterans Causes, 1074 01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:09.719 because my book does. 1075 01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.320 All the proceeds and royalties do go to veterans costs. 1076 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.760 That's my admission is to be able to serve veterans. 1077 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:16.199 It's the name of the book is the Spirit of 1078 01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:18.960 a True Patriot Douglas Harness. You can just search Doudlinsarness 1079 01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.880 dot com and find a link to it online. But 1080 01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.000 I joined the Army at the age of seventeen in 1081 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:26.760 order to get college money. I came from from very 1082 01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:30.280 humble background, very tough area in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. When I 1083 01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:33.360 was seventeen, my parents didn't have any money for college. 1084 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.039 There's not any opportunity in. 1085 01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:36.440 This city back then. 1086 01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:40.599 And I found you know, recruiter and family friends and mentors. 1087 01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:42.760 In my family that had served in the military that 1088 01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:46.199 were considered successful, and I started inquiring about the military, 1089 01:02:46.199 --> 01:02:48.519 and they had a program called the Army College Fund, 1090 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:51.639 which gave you seventeen thousand dollars to go to college 1091 01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:54.320 if you completed two and a half to three years 1092 01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:56.760 of service and a job that most people don't want 1093 01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:59.719 to take, and that's infantry, armor or some type of 1094 01:02:59.719 --> 01:03:02.519 common arms, a combat engineer. So I went to the 1095 01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:04.800 recruiter and found infantry and thought I wanted to be, 1096 01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.239 you know, go to airborne school and be in the infantry. 1097 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.880 I signed out not having any idea what I was doing. 1098 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.320 I had no idea what the infantry did. I just 1099 01:03:12.519 --> 01:03:15.119 my version of infantry, what i'd see on what you know, 1100 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.440 in movies that my grandfather would take me to about 1101 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:20.239 the military. And then later, you know, six months after 1102 01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:24.000 I joined. I joined June thirtieth, nineteen ninety August second, 1103 01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:28.320 thirty three days later, Saddam Hussein invaded the city, the 1104 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:31.840 Kuwait City, and committed to some of the worst atrocities 1105 01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:34.960 we've seen since World War Two, and that shifted the 1106 01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:38.639 entire military. All the kids I was with, the seventeen eighteen, 1107 01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:40.960 nineteen year old that wasn't with the basic training. We 1108 01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:43.320 were then being trained to go to war. And they 1109 01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:46.119 told us were going to war. They said, you are infantry. 1110 01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.039 You are going to be on the battlefield to fight 1111 01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:52.159 against Iraq in the next six months. And they were right, 1112 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.760 because on January second of nineteen ninety one, I was 1113 01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:58.719 deployed to that theater and I was there for seven months, 1114 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.480 and my whole time turning from a boy that was 1115 01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:04.559 to get some college money to a man that wanted 1116 01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:06.559 to serve his country and do what was right in 1117 01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:09.519 the honor of my grandpatents and my uncles that had 1118 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.960 served in Vietnam War. They just transformed me to a patriot. 1119 01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:15.320 I learned what it was to be a patriot. I 1120 01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:17.599 already was an American like everybody else. 1121 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:20.039 In this country. But I became a patriot. I became a. 1122 01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:23.360 Person that was so involved with my country and doing 1123 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:25.800 things for the right reason, and transformed my life, not 1124 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.039 only my life as a soldier, but my personal life, 1125 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.000 my health, my wealth, my taking care of myself and 1126 01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:33.039 taking care of thinking, and trying to find a way 1127 01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:35.960 to embrace and make a contribution back to my country 1128 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:38.079 that was so fortunate to give me the skill sets 1129 01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:39.079 and the benefits that I. 1130 01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:39.840 Had at that time. 1131 01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:43.159 I later wrote a book after almost twenty years of service, 1132 01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.480 I had gotten out of the captain and I had 1133 01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:47.760 in the time I was in the Army reserves for 1134 01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.320 I had a reserve scholarship and was mobilized for probably 1135 01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:53.280 a third of my career. I was actually put on 1136 01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:55.880 active duty as a reservist when I was an officer 1137 01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.199 and a captain. And during that time I became an 1138 01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:00.000 entrepreneur and opened up a corvette. 1139 01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.159 Yeah, we're going to get in to that bar, and 1140 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:03.679 I just. 1141 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.840 I was able to keep my corvette dealership intact. Very small, 1142 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.679 extreme big struggles, and I was actually able to stay 1143 01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:11.840 as a lieutenant and the captain and they got mobilized 1144 01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:14.199 to go to the border of Mexico in what two 1145 01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:15.920 thousand and three for Desert's one two. 1146 01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:18.440 And it was just a story of you know, the ups. 1147 01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:20.800 And downs and the answers to the questions that people 1148 01:05:20.840 --> 01:05:23.920 have if they're considering joining military service. And hopefully it's 1149 01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:26.559 an inspiration to people that want to make positive changes 1150 01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:29.360 in their life, whether it's quit smoking, get healthy, you know, 1151 01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:31.719 get along better with your family, or just understand what 1152 01:05:31.840 --> 01:05:34.239 it is to be a true patriot of this great country. 1153 01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:39.440 Wow, that's that's definitely a mouthful in you know, hindsight's 1154 01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:43.320 always twenty twenty and you know we could talk as 1155 01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:46.159 a as somebody who lives in the middle of Bengals country. 1156 01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:49.119 You live in the middle of Cowboys country. The Monday 1157 01:05:49.119 --> 01:05:57.039 morning quarterbacking, Do you think that in hindsight, Doug, that 1158 01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.679 that we should have driven Saddam Hussein all the way 1159 01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.920 back to Bagdad At the time, in the early nineties. 1160 01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:05.840 Yeah, you know that s that's another great year full 1161 01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:10.719 of great questions this morning I'm full of You know, 1162 01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:14.480 at that time, we had a great sense of leadership 1163 01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:19.400 and organizational outcome plan directives in the military. And that's 1164 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:20.960 just the fancy word I got when I was in 1165 01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:25.000 leadership school. We set a goal. Our mission was to 1166 01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:28.880 drive Hussein out of Kuwait and take back Kuwait. That 1167 01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.079 was our mission. We accomplished it and we stopped. We 1168 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:34.079 thought that was going to be the end of this 1169 01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:36.920 craziness in the Middle East and would tone it down. 1170 01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:39.800 We didn't expect to go back thirteen years later. 1171 01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:42.199 We did what we do now. 1172 01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.800 Why we don't have that type of leadership in the military. 1173 01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:48.320 There's no outcome based leadership in the military. We're just 1174 01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:52.280 gabbling in these conflicts around the globe that don't have 1175 01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:55.559 an outcome, very similar to what happened in Vietnam, which 1176 01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:57.880 turned out to be atrocity for our country with fifty 1177 01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:01.920 thousand of our women and men in that theater. So 1178 01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:04.960 right now, I wouldn't second guess it because we set 1179 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:07.440 a goal, we set a directive, and we set what 1180 01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:11.519 our outcome was and we achieved it. We drove Saddam 1181 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:14.639 Hussein and the Republican Guard out of Kuwait and we 1182 01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:16.239 achieved our goal. 1183 01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:18.039 We liberated this country. 1184 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.159 We saved millions of lives because these other people that 1185 01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:22.960 were there were going to be killed, and he was 1186 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:25.559 planning to go to Saudi Arabia. When we got there, 1187 01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:28.360 we had gotten intel that through all the generals and 1188 01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.480 all their playing, they were planning to keep going further 1189 01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:33.880 into Saudi Arabian, extually launching SCUD missiles into Saudi at 1190 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:37.159 that time. So it was a great opportunity for me 1191 01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:39.440 as a kid, you know, as a private, to see 1192 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.199 my leadership set the directive and they told us as 1193 01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:45.679 a pirate, we're going to Kuwait and we are going 1194 01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:47.840 to liberate Kuwait. We are going to drive him out 1195 01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:49.719 of Kuwait City. We're going to push him back on 1196 01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:51.920 what was later referred to as the road of death, 1197 01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:54.039 and then we're going to stop and we're going to 1198 01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:56.280 have peace. And they did it, and they did it 1199 01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:58.880 in about one hundred hours. And that was the you 1200 01:07:58.920 --> 01:08:02.239 know what I considered leadership by General Schwarzkoff, where he 1201 01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.599 sets a mission, he sets a goal, you actually do it, 1202 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:07.239 you get it done, and you want peace because as 1203 01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:08.360 a as a. 1204 01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:11.360 Patriot, I want peace across the world. We don't want 1205 01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:13.559 people to die and suffer. I want it to end. 1206 01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:17.920 We didn't we didn't have a clear mission in Afghanistan, did. 1207 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:20.840 We We had we absolutely we did not. 1208 01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:23.479 We went in there blindfolded. We went in there with 1209 01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:24.079 no mission. 1210 01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:26.119 There was a number a goal set that said we're 1211 01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:28.920 going to achieve these directives and then we're going to 1212 01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:32.399 end the conflict. And I was also a part of that, 1213 01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:35.199 but in a lesser aspect because I didn't get deployed 1214 01:08:35.199 --> 01:08:38.520 Afghanistan and I didn't get deployed to the Iraq theater 1215 01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:40.720 at that time. I was deployed to the border of 1216 01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:44.239 Mexico to guard Mexico and then mobilized troops to go 1217 01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:47.079 to Iraq, and it was just, it was It was 1218 01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:50.319 inspiring and we were motivated at the beginning of the conflict. 1219 01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:53.560 But as the conflict lingered on for years, the spirit 1220 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:59.560 of our countrymen was depleted drastically, and then the injuries 1221 01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:03.520 and the urban warfare, and people are soldiers suffering and 1222 01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:06.199 the people in that part of the world suffering. It 1223 01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:10.399 was just it was an awful, awful leadership. 1224 01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:12.960 In my opinion, with no outcome, no goal in that 1225 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:13.800 part of the world. 1226 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:19.119 You talk about being deployed to the Mexican border. The 1227 01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:23.279 first call of the federal government in our constitution is 1228 01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:26.319 to provide for the common defense of our country. Should 1229 01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:31.000 our military be concentrated on the Mexican border right now, 1230 01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:36.159 I mean instead of I mean our military provide for 1231 01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:41.520 the common defense. That is the federal government's charge according 1232 01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:44.159 to our constitution, the first one provide for the common 1233 01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:47.960 defense and promote the general welfare of Americans. That's what 1234 01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:51.159 our government has called to do. And yet I don't 1235 01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:53.479 feel like we've been providing for the common defense of 1236 01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:57.880 our country. In regards to the southern border at all. 1237 01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:01.279 The last three and a half years, I. 1238 01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:03.560 Think our southern border is in the worst shape it's 1239 01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:04.239 ever been in. 1240 01:10:04.199 --> 01:10:05.640 The history of our country. 1241 01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:10.119 It's it's just a vanity what's going on down there 1242 01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:13.439 and the destructiveness that it brings to our country. The 1243 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.279 human trafficking, the people that come in on betted that 1244 01:10:16.359 --> 01:10:19.680 can make crimes against events and buns against citizens. And 1245 01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:22.840 number three, the drugs one hundred thousand fetanyl. 1246 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:25.479 That's all this fetanol comes across the border, if most 1247 01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:27.279 of it from the Mexican border. 1248 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.880 It just unleashes tear on our citizens in our country, 1249 01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:32.359 and absolutely. 1250 01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:32.920 Something needs to be done. 1251 01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:35.640 If the border patrol could control it, you wouldn't need 1252 01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:38.399 the military. But the military and the past and when 1253 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:41.399 I was there acted as an intel effort. We didn't 1254 01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:44.359 go arrest the migrants that were coming across. We didn't 1255 01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:47.279 arrest the drug dealers. We would spot them, we would 1256 01:10:47.279 --> 01:10:49.800 call it into higher and then border patrol will get them. 1257 01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:52.239 And I believe right now because when I was down there, 1258 01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:55.520 we had control of the border. We have the skill 1259 01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.880 sets and the ability to take care of the border 1260 01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:00.920 with the border patrol that's there right now, But we're 1261 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:04.960 not having our back of the executive branch in order 1262 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:08.640 to enforce the laws. They've actually circumvented the laws, opened 1263 01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:10.520 the border wide up and they're not even to. 1264 01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:11.119 Do their job. 1265 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:13.640 Of course, you could use the military, but I don't 1266 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.479 think it's needed from my experience on that the border 1267 01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:19.520 patrol can do it. They just need backing by the government. 1268 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:21.960 And I believe now from what you see in the 1269 01:11:22.039 --> 01:11:24.960 media reports, is actually a call by the American people 1270 01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:26.840 for their voice to be heard where. 1271 01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:28.159 They want the border protect it. 1272 01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:29.199 Nothing is enough. 1273 01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:33.319 Citizens are being murdered, citizens are being raped, citizens are 1274 01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:34.680 being taken advantage of. 1275 01:11:34.680 --> 01:11:36.399 Our resources are being. 1276 01:11:36.279 --> 01:11:40.439 Spent on people coming across the border that are not vetted, 1277 01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:43.760 and giving to people our veterans sleeping the park addicted 1278 01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:46.520 to drugs and alcohol without anybody taking care of them, 1279 01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.439 with our people and our impoverished ghattos not being taken 1280 01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:51.960 care of, but yet we're giving hotels to people that 1281 01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.800 come across the border. It's my definition of insanity. I 1282 01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:58.359 would never imagine in my fifty two years of my 1283 01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:00.960 life that this would be going on in my country, and. 1284 01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:02.560 I wrote about it in my book The Spirit of 1285 01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:03.079 a True. 1286 01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:05.920 Patriot, about my experiences of the border, they were excellent. 1287 01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:07.359 We guarded the border. 1288 01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:09.840 We had people come across and they would get them, 1289 01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:11.960 they would arrest them, and they would send them back 1290 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.439 to Mexico and if they had drugs, they would do 1291 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:17.560 their time in jail then get put back in Mexico. 1292 01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:21.119 And that was a very common way of doing business 1293 01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.600 back then. Now it's a free for all. It's wide open, and. 1294 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:27.279 It is absolutely untenable. 1295 01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.920 What you can imagine what's happened to the people in 1296 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.359 our country that have to suffer because of these batchform 1297 01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:38.479 policy initiatives by the Border Czar Harris and President Joe Biden. 1298 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:43.000 Douglas Ernest, the book is the spirit of a true patriot, 1299 01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:47.199 the inspiring story of retired Captain Douglas j Ernest, US 1300 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:51.319 Army war veteran entrepreneur owns a very successful Corvette car 1301 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:52.439 dealership in Dallas. 1302 01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:53.880 You know, next time we got to. 1303 01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:56.399 If there is a next time, Doug, We've got to 1304 01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:58.840 make time to talk about the Corvette warehouse and how 1305 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:01.079 that got started, because that's a great story too, and 1306 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:04.960 it's in the book. And again you said, all proceeds 1307 01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:06.439 from the book go where. 1308 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.279 All proceeds go to veterans group. 1309 01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:12.840 I pick my favorite four veterans groups that I hope 1310 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:15.560 to make my contribution back to my sisters and brothers, 1311 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:17.439 to be able to give something back because our government 1312 01:13:17.520 --> 01:13:19.439 doesn't always take care of the veterans because they don't 1313 01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:22.760 have the resources. I hope that your listeners will spend 1314 01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:25.399 the fifteen bucks of the paperback or six bucks of 1315 01:13:25.479 --> 01:13:28.119 the kindle for the Spirit of a Truth Patriot. Spend 1316 01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.359 that little bit of money, and about thirty percent of 1317 01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:33.319 the revenue that comes from the book actually goes. 1318 01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:34.720 Right directly to the veterans groups. 1319 01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:37.760 The Spirit of a Truth Patriot Douglasernest dot com. You 1320 01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:40.399 can just Google search Douglas Ernest and the links of 1321 01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:41.319 the book will be in there. 1322 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:42.279 I ask y'all to. 1323 01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:45.319 Please make your small contribution so we can help those 1324 01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:47.840 that need a helping hand in this challenging time for 1325 01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:48.479 our country. 1326 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:50.680 And can I say one last thing, Gary question, No, 1327 01:13:50.760 --> 01:13:51.359 go ahead. 1328 01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:54.439 I just hope that your your people, your listeners, get 1329 01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:56.319 out and vote, Tell your friends, tell your neighbor, put 1330 01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:57.560 a sign in your yard, get out. 1331 01:13:57.840 --> 01:13:59.640 Don't let our country be destroyed. 1332 01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:02.520 Please get out, make your voice be heard, and do 1333 01:14:02.600 --> 01:14:05.760 what you can to help our country, take our country back. Amen, 1334 01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:09.359 thank you, don Amen, You're welcome, sir, my pleasure. 1335 01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:13.800 It's the nightcap on seven hundred WLW, and we ain't 1336 01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:18.399 done yet, Cowur. It is time to go into a 1337 01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:22.800 sports commando territory because a lot of people have not 1338 01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:27.960 had their emotions sufficiently addressed. After the Bengals' fifth loss 1339 01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:31.760 of the season at home, their fourth loss at home, 1340 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:35.239 they are zero to four at pay Course Stadium, and 1341 01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:39.920 again the worry coming in was the Bengals would not 1342 01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:46.720 be able to stop Philadelphia and Sequon Barkley and Jalen Hurts. 1343 01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:48.479 And guess what they didn't. 1344 01:14:49.079 --> 01:14:53.239 It is the sports commando himself, the wild the wild Man, 1345 01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:56.239 Dennis Wildman Walker, ready to air it out and vent 1346 01:14:56.840 --> 01:14:58.359 on a Monday night on the radio. 1347 01:14:58.439 --> 01:14:59.520 How you doing, wild Man? 1348 01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:02.920 Well, I've been better, I've been a lot better. But 1349 01:15:03.039 --> 01:15:07.399 after watching yesterday's debacle, Gary, Jeff, ten games left, okay, 1350 01:15:07.479 --> 01:15:10.159 ten games left of the season. You just said, Bengals 1351 01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:12.720 are three and five and zero and four. We're just 1352 01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:17.600 unacceptable at pay Course Stadium. This football team. I'm not 1353 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:19.359 gonna say that the season is over. Let me just 1354 01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:21.239 put it in another way and then you can decipher 1355 01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:23.720 they were in a coma and are on life support. 1356 01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:27.399 So I mean, are we calling the hospice doctors yet 1357 01:15:27.640 --> 01:15:31.199 into the room. Is this just palliative care the rest 1358 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:33.319 of the way through wild Man or is there a 1359 01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:36.159 hope of a miracle, of a chance that they come 1360 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:40.159 out off of life support. They're breathing on their own. 1361 01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:44.039 They take the feeding tube out, and they get out 1362 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:48.560 of ICU, and now they're in a general room just 1363 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:50.079 kind of healing up. 1364 01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:51.760 Just for observation. 1365 01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:58.439 I mean, what's your prognosis, then, doctor Walker, what's your 1366 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:00.960 prognosis here of the patient? 1367 01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:04.520 Well, the vine intervention might have to happen. 1368 01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:08.960 We're talking about only God can fix this. 1369 01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.640 Gary Jeff. Right now, it's a It's a mess on 1370 01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:16.920 both sides of the ball, starting with the terrible, terrible 1371 01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:19.680 play calling it one, Zach Taylor. I mean that fourth 1372 01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:23.359 and two play. My grandma's been dead for twenty years 1373 01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.520 and she could tell you what play was coming. I mean, 1374 01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:28.479 when that happens, that's bad. And they throw a screen pass, 1375 01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:31.960 Gary Jeff. They've been trying that screen pass for fifty 1376 01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.760 eight years and it hasn't worked. And he can continue 1377 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:37.000 to go to the well on that screen pass, Well, 1378 01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:38.039 that's can get two. 1379 01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:42.079 Yard fifty year, fifty eight years. That's not Zach Taylor's fault. 1380 01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:45.479 No, they still they're still using that play for the playbook. 1381 01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:49.000 They're still using that play. That was just a dumb play. 1382 01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:51.800 They're that close you play field position, and I can 1383 01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:54.119 I can hark him back to the Super Bowl when 1384 01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:56.239 they were like at midfield and Taylor thought he was 1385 01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:58.640 cute and went forth. It failed, The Rams got the ball, 1386 01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:00.640 went down to score touchdown, and if you look at 1387 01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:03.039 the final score of the game, there was the difference. 1388 01:17:03.119 --> 01:17:06.399 But Taylor's play calling is terrible, terrible, and it's all 1389 01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:09.760 over It's all over Facebook. People are now saying Taylor 1390 01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:12.600 is not the guy the call plays and Gary Jeff. 1391 01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:16.800 Look what the Browns did this week. Kema Stefanski turned 1392 01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.640 it over his play calling duties the Ken Dorsey. Okay, 1393 01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:22.479 they put in a third stream cornerback Jamius Winston. What 1394 01:17:22.520 --> 01:17:28.199 happens They upset the Baltimore Ravens. There's something there. Why 1395 01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:31.079 can't Taylor? Why can't Taylor turn a play calling duties 1396 01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:34.079 over to Jeff Jeff Pitcher, Well, let me do it. 1397 01:17:34.119 --> 01:17:39.000 The last time that Jamis Winston. Winston was successful at 1398 01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:42.159 stealing anything. It was crab legs in Florida and he 1399 01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:43.600 was just going out of college. 1400 01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:44.960 Now you're just reaching. 1401 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.159 There no reach in that that happened. 1402 01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:49.880 But had to do with the game yesterday. 1403 01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.840 They hear me out. Hear me out. 1404 01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:56.680 What I'm saying is Jameis Winston more or less was 1405 01:17:56.720 --> 01:18:00.239 written off in the NFL for his career and the 1406 01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:03.680 only thing that some people remember is you know that stuff, 1407 01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:06.199 and not not his introduction into the league. I'm not 1408 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:09.439 saying That's me just calmed down for a moment and 1409 01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:13.119 hear me out. What I'm saying is with a change 1410 01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:18.359 in play calling, you can have a change in outcomes 1411 01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.000 no matter who's under center. 1412 01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:22.319 I think that's the point. 1413 01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:25.640 Well, and worked for the Browns, did it not? Yes? 1414 01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:28.039 I was agree. I was agreeing with you. 1415 01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:31.520 I mean, I think if Zach Taylor's ego will not 1416 01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:33.560 allow it, and really I think a lot of the 1417 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:36.359 players are starting to not question it out loud, but 1418 01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:38.880 inside that locker room, I'm on themselves. Now let me 1419 01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:40.760 run this by you again. I told you this once. 1420 01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:44.399 Zach Taylor was the offensive coordinator. I think at twenty 1421 01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:46.920 fifteen with Miami Dolphins. They got rid of him. He 1422 01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:49.840 came to Cincinnati. It's the offensive coordinator. They got rid 1423 01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:53.079 of him too when they fired Tommy Tubberville ended up 1424 01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:57.119 with the Rams as the quarterbacks coach, not the offensive coordinator, 1425 01:18:57.159 --> 01:19:00.520 but as the quarterbacks coach. Then he gets the job here. Yeah, 1426 01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:02.680 what what was the What was the Bengals record before 1427 01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:05.760 they got Joe Borrow? Joe Burrow? What was their record? 1428 01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:09.640 It was a pathetic, it was it was they were losers. 1429 01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:12.119 They went to the super Bowl. Yeah, they went to 1430 01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:14.560 the super Bowl because of Joe Burrow. It wasn't Zach 1431 01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:17.800 Taylor's play calling, his brilliant play calling, because the league 1432 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:19.760 is caught up to him. Now here here we go. 1433 01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:24.520 Jermaine Burton. T Higgins can't play again for a third 1434 01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:26.960 time this year. Jamaine and Burton, they put him in yesterday, 1435 01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:29.039 had a great had a great catch, had another one 1436 01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:31.680 that almost could have been a touchdown, but the defensive back, 1437 01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:33.880 it was an all pro, broke it up. Jermaine and 1438 01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:36.920 Burton needs to get the Ballimore, the guy who's got 1439 01:19:36.920 --> 01:19:39.560 blazing speed, and Joe Burrow has already come out and said. 1440 01:19:39.359 --> 01:19:40.159 I like that guy. 1441 01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:43.239 Because he can't. You can't. You're not gonna win with 1442 01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:45.840 Jamar Chason. They're double team and him and guys like 1443 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.760 Trent Irwin and you both seeing those guys, they're not 1444 01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:51.439 they're not that caliber. But Jermaine Burton, if you look 1445 01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:54.680 at the numbers he put up in college, it was unreal, 1446 01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:57.359 the numbers he put up in college at Alabama. 1447 01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:00.079 Look at the guy in there and play well. 1448 01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:03.000 And the thing that you know you said at the 1449 01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:05.680 top of this wild Man that on both sides of 1450 01:20:05.720 --> 01:20:07.960 the ball, they're a mess. They're a cognitive mess, and 1451 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:11.119 they're a kinetic physical mess on both sides of the ball. 1452 01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:13.880 And the offense. You have covered with. 1453 01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.760 The what you call Zach Taylor's deficiency of ability to 1454 01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:20.960 call plays in the offense. And I listen, I'm one 1455 01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:24.479 hundred percent on board with that opinion of yours. And 1456 01:20:24.520 --> 01:20:27.439 I'm also and you and I've discussed this before. I 1457 01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:29.560 think that Joe Burrow ought to be calling the plays. 1458 01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:36.279 He's absolutely he's your you know, multimillion dollar quarterback. He 1459 01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:40.960 is a franchise quarterback for the ages, especially for a 1460 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:43.079 team like the Bengals in Cincinnati. 1461 01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:46.680 Perfect fit. Let the guy. 1462 01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:49.199 Who who actually knows what he's seeing in front of 1463 01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:52.199 him and knows the personnel he has decide how to 1464 01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:55.760 utilize that personnel on any given offensive drive. 1465 01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:57.119 Totally down with that. 1466 01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:02.279 The thing we have not discussed the all obvious defensive 1467 01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:08.039 deficiencies of this particular squad. Once again, they knew this 1468 01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:10.439 was coming. I mean, they knew the Eagles were coming 1469 01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:12.640 to town. With Sekwon Barkley had just rushed for one 1470 01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:15.800 hundred and seventy two yards the week before. We knew 1471 01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:19.159 what Jalen Hurts can do with his legs and his arm, 1472 01:21:19.479 --> 01:21:22.600 and yet there was no answer from the Bengals defense. 1473 01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:26.319 Yesterday they had two pressures. They had two pressures on 1474 01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:26.880 the quarterback. 1475 01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:27.479 Yesterday. 1476 01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:31.399 Fred Johnson, a throwaway from the Bengals, kept Trey Henrickson 1477 01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.479 at bay. I mean, good for Fred Fred Johnson. He 1478 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:37.880 did a good job. But they didn't blitz. They didn't 1479 01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:41.399 blitz one time. This is on lou Amarillo. Lou Amarillo 1480 01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:43.479 had how many days repair for the Philadelphia Eagles. 1481 01:21:43.520 --> 01:21:45.800 Well, I'm saying they knew the Eagles were coming to 1482 01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:46.920 town and who was coming. 1483 01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:51.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a mess. Miles Murphy as a 1484 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.760 number one draft Pick. I never hear his name called 1485 01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:57.880 on anything. And bj Hill yesterday I didn't really hear 1486 01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:01.520 his name called much either. And let's be so Kwanton Berkley, 1487 01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:04.640 he had a good day, but had a good day 1488 01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:08.479 of course at the end of getting garbage, garbage time yards. 1489 01:22:08.760 --> 01:22:10.600 But for the most part, for the most part, the 1490 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:13.680 Bengals kept him in check. But then, of course the 1491 01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:16.000 quarterback of the Eagles when he got when he got loose, 1492 01:22:16.079 --> 01:22:18.880 he was able to find guys wide open, wide open. 1493 01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:23.000 How many times if there is a talented and we 1494 01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:26.560 faced the Bengals have faced Lamar Jackson this year. Okay, 1495 01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:30.319 another quarterback very much like Jalen Hurts, only with more 1496 01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:35.039 physical capabilities than maybe Jalen Hurts has. But how is 1497 01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:41.000 it that you can absolutely almost put these quarterbacks in 1498 01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:43.680 a cage and you let them figure a way out 1499 01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.840 when you're closing in on both sides, and and you 1500 01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:50.680 you've got your arms right there within you know, half 1501 01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:54.039 an arm's linked distance of tackling this guy, and they 1502 01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:57.079 escape every single time from the Bengals, it seems. 1503 01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.079 And I've seen I've seen that. I've seen that for 1504 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.439 the eight years too. I don't I don't understand it. 1505 01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.640 I want to go back to Joe Burrow. You mentioned, yeah, 1506 01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:07.880 I call him his own place. I don't think that 1507 01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:09.600 will really happen, because if you look at the history 1508 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:14.079 of the Bengals, no quarterback, no quarterback, Ken Anderson, Woomers, 1509 01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:17.239 siasin Carson Balmer, they never were able to call their plays. 1510 01:23:17.319 --> 01:23:20.439 I think that's something in the Bengals organization up going 1511 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:22.960 up back to Paul Brown, that no quarterback will ever 1512 01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:24.840 call the plays for this franchise. 1513 01:23:25.359 --> 01:23:29.199 I really believe that does doesn't well, doesn't doesn't happen. 1514 01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:32.600 Does it happen elsewhere in the NFL wild Man. 1515 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:36.159 Where Peyton manages to Peyton manages to call his own plays? Yep. 1516 01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:38.399 I remember there's a number of there's a number of 1517 01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:41.159 quarterbacks that call their own place. I mean, and then, 1518 01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:42.880 like you just said, we're all going to say, you 1519 01:23:42.960 --> 01:23:45.880 paying me guy fifty five million dollars. He's on the field, 1520 01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.439 he knows the players. But now you'et Zach Taylor is 1521 01:23:48.479 --> 01:23:50.680 a guy, and you'll just go back and look, the 1522 01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:52.399 league has caught on the Zach Taylor in his and 1523 01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:55.600 this in his lame annis as a play caller, lame 1524 01:23:55.720 --> 01:23:58.640 They're very lame. I'm not I'm not advocating, and he'd 1525 01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:01.520 be fired. I'm advocating. Check your ego at the door. 1526 01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:04.640 Give them the job to your OC. Let him see 1527 01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:06.239 what he can do. Why'd you hire him as an 1528 01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:08.760 OC If he's not calling the play? Why have him? 1529 01:24:09.239 --> 01:24:13.279 That's a that's a wasted that's wasted payroll. And coach. 1530 01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.680 Coach the team on the sidelines, get in the guy's faces, 1531 01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:20.840 talk to the guys. Let your coaches coach. That's why 1532 01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:24.640 Mike Tomlin has been a huge success because he lets 1533 01:24:24.680 --> 01:24:28.279 the coaches coach and he reads the same way. Well, 1534 01:24:28.319 --> 01:24:29.159 when you're. 1535 01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:31.880 The head guy, and I like him this to uh, 1536 01:24:32.079 --> 01:24:36.000 let's say the president. When you're the head guy, you delegate. 1537 01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:39.399 This is something that Reagan was great at, delegating the 1538 01:24:39.479 --> 01:24:45.720 responsibilities of government to people who are capable, to people 1539 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:49.359 who had a track record of being capable, not just 1540 01:24:49.640 --> 01:24:55.279 Washington stiffs. In the Bengals case, they're not able. Zach 1541 01:24:55.359 --> 01:24:59.119 Taylor as the head coach is not able to delegate 1542 01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:02.960 authority the right way for them to be successful. 1543 01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:05.039 And I think that's the point you're making, isn't it. 1544 01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:10.079 Yes, exactly exactly. I mean, does he not have confidence 1545 01:25:10.439 --> 01:25:13.119 and his coaches. If that's the case, then get rid 1546 01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:15.880 of them. Then get rid of them. Yeah, my god, 1547 01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.079 I mean this town is on edge, man, really, I 1548 01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:22.079 mean being zero and four at home, and then yesterday 1549 01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:24.960 the debacle that we saw, you know, specially with the 1550 01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:27.479 play calling on fourth and two. You know, a blind 1551 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:29.720 man could have told you they're gonna throw the screen pass. 1552 01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:32.479 They throw a three yard screen pass behind the line 1553 01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:35.319 and then get tackled. That's the best you could come 1554 01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:39.359 up with. And he's supposed to be this offensive genius, 1555 01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:40.800 this offensive guru. 1556 01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:46.039 My ass well, And I gotta tell you, I saw 1557 01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:50.439 the postgame press conference with Joe Burrow, and he looked 1558 01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:53.119 like he was He looked like he was in a 1559 01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:55.520 state of shock as he was trying to answer the 1560 01:25:55.600 --> 01:26:00.560 questions and trying to address the press. He looked I 1561 01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:03.520 hate to say this, wild man, but he looked bengalized. 1562 01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:04.560 He really did. 1563 01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:08.000 I saw a little bit of the press conference and 1564 01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:10.279 I saw that look on his face, and I don't 1565 01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:11.880 think he really wanted to be there, but you know, 1566 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:14.159 league rules. But and then he said, you know it's 1567 01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:18.079 doable that we can win the next uh yes, seven seven? 1568 01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:20.399 Out of ten games, it's doable. I don't see I 1569 01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:22.439 don't see that happening. I mean, they gotta go on 1570 01:26:22.439 --> 01:26:24.920 the road and play the Chargers, and they don't play. 1571 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:26.560 They're gonna go on the road to play the Chargers. 1572 01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:29.680 They're gonna they should beat the Titans. They should be 1573 01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:31.800 the Titan and they should beat the Raiders. Then they 1574 01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:34.560 gotta go. They gonna go play the Ravens in Baltimore. 1575 01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:36.239 They gotta still play the Steelers twice. 1576 01:26:37.399 --> 01:26:39.680 Yes, indeed, I don't, I don't, I don't. 1577 01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:42.520 I just don't see it. But the stranger things have happened. 1578 01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:45.720 But I think it's gonna take divine intervention. This football 1579 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.359 team has got too many problems. And I mean I 1580 01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:50.720 get Jermaine Burton that needs to be in that lineup. 1581 01:26:50.760 --> 01:26:53.159 I mean, the guy's got blazing speed. I mean, we 1582 01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:55.239 got this Engus football team on the ost side of 1583 01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:59.920 the Ballgary Jeff is very talented and Zach Taylor is 1584 01:27:00.039 --> 01:27:02.359 screwing it all up. He's screwing it all up. 1585 01:27:03.039 --> 01:27:07.359 I mean, you can have you can have filet mignon 1586 01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:11.319 and lobster as a chef, and you can have the 1587 01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:15.079 finest ingredients, but it can come out like shoe leather 1588 01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:18.520 and crap. If the cook doesn't know what he's doing, 1589 01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:22.680 and you're just insisting that there are no culinary schools 1590 01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:26.880 skills football wise in Zach Taylor's apron. 1591 01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:29.399 Well, let's go back and look at the play calling 1592 01:27:29.479 --> 01:27:32.039 that he's just this year alone, and I go back 1593 01:27:32.039 --> 01:27:34.279 to last year too. Some of the play calling that's 1594 01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:36.920 just the league has caught on that what they're going 1595 01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:39.079 to do. I mean, you could see it on TV 1596 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:40.840 when they lined up there, what they were going to do. 1597 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:43.199 And you know, if I can see it, you don't 1598 01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:46.920 think that the Eagles defensive coordinator or their defense couldn't 1599 01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:49.039 see if they knew what was coming. And that's that's 1600 01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:52.000 the best you got, you know, in your back pocket, 1601 01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:54.399 throw a screen pass three yards behind the line of 1602 01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:57.079 scrimmage when they should have just plotted the ball and 1603 01:27:57.119 --> 01:28:00.680 played field position. But no, Zach's gonna know. I'm smarter 1604 01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:02.840 than this. I can pull this off. And you see 1605 01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:06.800 a look on his face after it failed. He didn't 1606 01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:08.399 know what to do. He didn't know what to do. 1607 01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:10.279 He could have found the hole to crawl in, he 1608 01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:11.359 would have done it. I know. 1609 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:13.560 This is the home of the best Bengals coverage. This 1610 01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:16.039 is Cincinnati. You're a Bengals fan. We got lots of 1611 01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:19.640 Bengals fans listening, But you know, me as a Chiefs fan, 1612 01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:23.479 I'm just sitting back with a smile on my face, going, Yeah, 1613 01:28:23.479 --> 01:28:26.479 Patrick Mahomes probably having the worst season of his career, 1614 01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:31.039 of his career right now, and the Chiefs are undefeated, 1615 01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:33.800 and they just keep on finding ways to win, like 1616 01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:35.800 they did yesterday against the Raiders. 1617 01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:38.840 Garrett made my day a little bit better after the 1618 01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:41.079 Bengals loss when I flipped on the end of the 1619 01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:42.239 Washington Commanders. 1620 01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:48.199 Oh, we had an incredible game, what a finish, unbelievable. 1621 01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:52.359 And Jayden Daniels hail Mary fifty two yard passer to 1622 01:28:52.479 --> 01:28:54.520 Noah Brown that he catch us in the end zone. 1623 01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:57.600 I've got to sell out of the chair. I can't 1624 01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:00.520 yeah up to the flex and I can't say words 1625 01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:03.760 that I that because it's not out on the air. 1626 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.319 I couldn't believe it that of us. It was hilarious 1627 01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:08.760 and Dada Daniels didn't even know what had happened, and 1628 01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:11.920 he really didn't know. You really didn't know. But that's 1629 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.840 what that that replay, that replay that Hail Mary will 1630 01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:19.159 be shown from now into eternity. Oh will it was? 1631 01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:21.720 It was the Hail Mary of the season so far. 1632 01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:23.920 I don't know how they get any better than that. 1633 01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:27.760 A jump a jump ball. The ball goes up in 1634 01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:31.239 the air and there's Noah Brown right behind the whole mess, going, 1635 01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:32.800 oh look what I found? 1636 01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:36.920 As I asked, as the clock expires, Yeah. 1637 01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:39.960 As the clock expired, I mean, Aaron, Aaron Rodgers threw 1638 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.560 when last week? Right at that like that at halftime 1639 01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:46.000 but not but not sowing as time expires, to pull out, 1640 01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:47.359 pull your fat out of the fire. 1641 01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:54.399 So, uh, are the Dodgers done? Are they are? Are 1642 01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:56.520 they gonna win this World Series? Wild man? 1643 01:29:57.199 --> 01:29:59.560 I'm staying with the Yankees, and six Yankees are home. 1644 01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:03.159 Aaron Judges struggled a little bit, without a doubt. But 1645 01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:05.199 maybe when they get back to the friendly confines of 1646 01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:08.000 the Yankee Stadium, the ghosts that kind of came over 1647 01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:10.199 from the old Yankee Stadium to the new Yankee Stadium 1648 01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:12.479 will inspire those boys to play a little bit better. 1649 01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:16.640 The only team that has ever lost a World Series 1650 01:30:16.800 --> 01:30:19.920 after winning the first three games. The last team was 1651 01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:24.479 the two thousand and four Boston Red Sox pulled it 1652 01:30:24.520 --> 01:30:27.319 out if the Yankees had a three games to nothing. Indeed, 1653 01:30:27.960 --> 01:30:31.039 and one of the players on that Boston Red Sox 1654 01:30:31.119 --> 01:30:34.640 team is now managing the LA Dodgers, Dave Roberts. 1655 01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:35.760 Dave Roberts. 1656 01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:39.439 It's twenty years later. The Dodgers may be going to 1657 01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:44.039 a three to zero lead, and does Dave Roberts wind 1658 01:30:44.119 --> 01:30:47.000 up on the wrong end, Yeah, no doubt. It's a 1659 01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:49.239 mus must win for the Yankees tonight. And they've been 1660 01:30:49.279 --> 01:30:50.439 in this position before. 1661 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:54.039 But they're home the fans, I don't They're not gonna 1662 01:30:54.039 --> 01:30:56.439 be too many Dodger fans in the Yankees tadum Worthy 1663 01:30:56.479 --> 01:31:01.279 blue unless they value their lives. And this is this 1664 01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:03.319 is a musch win game for the Yankees. And everybody 1665 01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:04.920 will tell you that. All right, well, did you get 1666 01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:06.479 down three to zero? You can see you can see 1667 01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:08.439 history that's not on your side. 1668 01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.520 Yes, sir wild Man. Always good to have you on 1669 01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:13.359 my side. And thanks for being on the show tonight 1670 01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:14.479 again Gary Jeff. 1671 01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:17.000 The Bengals are in a coma and on life support 1672 01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:19.079 and that's and how we look at not good. 1673 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:24.479 Thank you, Wildman Walker on the nightcap seven hundred W 1674 01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:25.319 l W. 1675 01:31:26.359 --> 01:31:27.920 People that I really. 1676 01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:32.359 Really respect after having just years and years of empirical 1677 01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:35.479 data to show that he is absolutely on point with 1678 01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:38.600 everything in the Internet of Things world. 1679 01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:44.479 Is tech expert Dave Hatter. So we have him back 1680 01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:48.920 for a conversation. Mister Hatter, Mad Hatter, How are you today? 1681 01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:51.680 How does the day find you? 1682 01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:53.319 You know, Gary, Jeff, I can't complain. 1683 01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:54.720 How about you? 1684 01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:57.520 You know what, It's just part of the part of 1685 01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:02.600 God's great plan. And then I will then I will 1686 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:07.359 continue to see what God has next for me. And 1687 01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:10.159 I think God believes and breaks every once in a while. 1688 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:16.039 But anyway, in the Internet of Things tech world, which 1689 01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:21.319 you and I discuss on a regular there are all 1690 01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:23.800 kinds of things that people need to look out for. 1691 01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:27.520 It is a continual process, and you continue to track 1692 01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:32.359 these stories down to let people know before they sign 1693 01:32:32.439 --> 01:32:35.479 up for that app, before they agree to those terms 1694 01:32:35.520 --> 01:32:39.279 of service. You probably would want to read those terms 1695 01:32:39.319 --> 01:32:43.640 of service, although most people do not, And you'd like 1696 01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:50.159 to know what little pitfalls await you when you're engaging 1697 01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:54.560 in all of this wonderful technology. There is something called 1698 01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:59.520 z scaler. I don't know what z scaler is. Is 1699 01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:02.840 this something I should be concerned about and what is 1700 01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:08.119 what are two hundred militious look alike domains for every 1701 01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:09.399 one impersonated brand? 1702 01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:12.439 So what are they saying in essence here. 1703 01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:16.640 Dave, Yeah, Gary, Jeff. Here's the short end of it, 1704 01:33:16.880 --> 01:33:20.520 which is the Scaler is a cybersecurity company. They do 1705 01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:22.720 a variety of different things, but they did a study. 1706 01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.520 And like many of these larger cybersecurity companies out there, 1707 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:29.680 you know, Microsoft puts out a big study every year, 1708 01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:32.760 Verizon puts out of study. These things are useful for 1709 01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:35.359 folks like me who work in the field, like an interest, 1710 01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:36.920 you know, we look at these things to try to 1711 01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:39.720 figure out what what might we be missing in terms 1712 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:42.640 of how we're support our customers. You know, what additional 1713 01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:45.640 cybersecurity protections should they be thinking about in light of 1714 01:33:46.359 --> 01:33:49.479 the ever changing landscape out there. I mean you mentioned 1715 01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:52.840 it before. Sadly, the bad guys are really smart, really creative, 1716 01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:56.119 really devious. They're constantly changing their tactics and while this 1717 01:33:56.359 --> 01:33:59.720 lookalike domain idea isn't new, it continues to be a 1718 01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:03.520 big So per this z Scaler study, they've said that 1719 01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:08.279 of five hundred major brands, and you can think of 1720 01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:11.319 a lookalike domain sometimes it's called a doppelganger domain. You know, 1721 01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.159 I'll go out use a tool to copy your website, 1722 01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:16.319 set it up on a server somewhere with a domain 1723 01:34:16.359 --> 01:34:19.119 that looks to the naked eye, either very similar or 1724 01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:21.720 exactly like your domain. So you get a phishing email 1725 01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:24.760 or a text or whatever from me as a bad guy, 1726 01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:26.840 you click a link. It takes you to a page 1727 01:34:27.119 --> 01:34:30.359 or an entire website that looks exactly like the real thing, 1728 01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:33.279 and in many cases, again to the naked eye, there's 1729 01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:35.039 no way to tell. And you know, if you look 1730 01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:38.199 at the details of this study, it shows you how 1731 01:34:38.199 --> 01:34:40.079 common this is. And that's why I'm glad you brought 1732 01:34:40.079 --> 01:34:42.319 this up as a topic. It's so important for people 1733 01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:45.880 to realize. Firstly, anything on the Internet can be spoofed, 1734 01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:49.279 whether it's an email address, it's a phone number, it's 1735 01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:51.359 a text message, or it's a whole website. As we 1736 01:34:51.399 --> 01:34:54.920 see here, it's really easy to do this, and sadly, 1737 01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:57.039 because of this is so easy, you know, people fall 1738 01:34:57.119 --> 01:34:59.920 prey to your scam. So just being aware that because 1739 01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:02.960 something looks right to you doesn't necessarily mean it is. 1740 01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:05.680 You need a healthy dose of skepticism, and this study 1741 01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:07.880 just shows how common this particular approach is. 1742 01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:12.399 Well, it'd be let's say, look at you talk about 1743 01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:17.560 impersonated brands. You would look at say a bottle of coke, 1744 01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:21.159 for example, but it's not coke, but it has the 1745 01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:25.159 same script on the label, and it has the same 1746 01:35:25.239 --> 01:35:29.359 colors as a bottle of coke. And I mean Coca 1747 01:35:29.399 --> 01:35:32.920 Cola would be suing those people because they were impersonating 1748 01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:37.279 their brand in such a an obvious way. But this 1749 01:35:37.359 --> 01:35:40.880 is on This is on a on a website or 1750 01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:44.079 on an internet brand, so it's the same thing. 1751 01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:47.840 That's a good analogy, Grey, Jeff. I mean the goal 1752 01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:50.960 of the bad guys is to you know, in many cases, 1753 01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:55.640 literary copy the full website of an existing organization, set 1754 01:35:55.680 --> 01:35:58.640 it up on another server registered domain name. Like they 1755 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:02.760 may use the crylicaracter that looks like the English character A, 1756 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:05.199 so to the naked eye, you're not going to notice 1757 01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:08.520 the difference. Now, there's software out there that can potentially 1758 01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:10.840 detect these kinds of things, but you know that costs 1759 01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:13.800 more money. It costs friction. People don't know how to 1760 01:36:13.800 --> 01:36:16.600 install that sort of stuff. So you get you get 1761 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:18.960 an email, hey your package is delayed or whatever. It 1762 01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:22.079 is it's you know, super a great deal on product X. 1763 01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:24.399 You click the link, it takes you to one of 1764 01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:29.560 these lookalike aka doppelganger website and without you know, a 1765 01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:32.479 special software that's attempting to detect these and keep you 1766 01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:34.760 from landing on them, which is difficult because new ones 1767 01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:36.800 are set up all the time. I mean, just look 1768 01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:39.319 at the scale of the study, right, thirty thousand of 1769 01:36:39.359 --> 01:36:42.439 these things, and they'll pop it up all the time. 1770 01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:46.239 It's a it's a difficult challenge as a defender against 1771 01:36:46.279 --> 01:36:48.359 this sort of thing because it's easy to do for 1772 01:36:48.439 --> 01:36:51.439 the bad guy, it's effective obviously, or they stop doing it, 1773 01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:54.720 and you know, the scale of it is difficult to 1774 01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:56.920 take on because new ones are coming in all the time. 1775 01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:01.880 So besides getting software like Cisco Umbrella are something that 1776 01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:05.319 can filter none malicious site. I help he does the 1777 01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:09.439 skepticism and understanding that just because something looks legit does 1778 01:37:09.479 --> 01:37:11.600 not mean that it is and you should proceed with caution. 1779 01:37:12.079 --> 01:37:13.960 You know, I hate that we're always the deemsday guys 1780 01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:16.640 here Gary, Jeff, But you know, sadly, these scams are 1781 01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:19.640 very effective and people are losing lots of money if 1782 01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:22.039 you don't believe me. Go see what the FBI says 1783 01:37:22.039 --> 01:37:24.760 and their annual report on Cybercroot, which is also worth 1784 01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:27.439 reading because they're getting insight into the kind of things 1785 01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:28.479 you need to be on the look out for. 1786 01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:31.479 Well, there are all kinds of scams, and not all 1787 01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:35.640 of them are on the Internet. Sometimes you're getting calls 1788 01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:36.720 on your phone. 1789 01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:39.079 This happened last week. 1790 01:37:39.479 --> 01:37:43.079 My wife and I just sitting around and she gets 1791 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:48.119 a call. Didn't know the number, and they claimed they 1792 01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:53.439 were from our bank, US bank, and they were just 1793 01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:57.840 confirming that we had made one thousand dollars purchase on 1794 01:37:57.880 --> 01:38:00.439 our account. They were just checking to make sure if 1795 01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:03.720 this was a legitimate purchase. We hadn't made any thousand 1796 01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:09.279 dollars purchases. And while she's on the phone, we're also 1797 01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:16.199 checking our online banking. No, there's no thousand dollars. People 1798 01:38:16.319 --> 01:38:19.319 are often tripped up by these phone calls, thinking that 1799 01:38:19.399 --> 01:38:22.000 their bank is looking after it, and I guess banks 1800 01:38:22.039 --> 01:38:27.840 do sometimes verify a large purchase or whatever. But I 1801 01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.439 was listening to the voice on the end of the line. 1802 01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:31.439 I was. 1803 01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:39.359 Just listening to her him address my wife like he 1804 01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:42.880 knew her. When I just said, you know what, just 1805 01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:45.119 hang up, it's a scam, she said. I think so too. 1806 01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:46.319 How often does. 1807 01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:49.279 That happen all the time. I'll tell you a real 1808 01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:53.079 world story that happened to myself and my wife here, 1809 01:38:53.319 --> 01:38:55.079 very similar to what you just described. But I would 1810 01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:58.239 point out to folks, you know, first off, how would 1811 01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:01.039 some bad guy know what they you use? Well, it 1812 01:39:01.039 --> 01:39:05.159 could be because, for example, your information has been leaked 1813 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:09.359 slash stolen from companies like National Public Data, which is 1814 01:39:09.439 --> 01:39:11.079 a background check company. You know. 1815 01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:14.079 Think to your listening audience out there, think about the 1816 01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:16.600 very sensitive information you would give up as part of 1817 01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:19.239 a background check. All the places you've lived, all the 1818 01:39:19.239 --> 01:39:22.199 places you work, all kinds of information. So when that 1819 01:39:22.279 --> 01:39:25.039 information gets stolen or eaked, it gives the bad guys 1820 01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:28.039 a treasure trail of information to use to impersonate someone 1821 01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:30.880 that you actually do business with or interact with on 1822 01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:33.560 a regular basis. Not to mention, they can also go 1823 01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:36.920 somewhere like the Hambleton County Shaff's website, look up a 1824 01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:38.399 real name, and when they call you at. 1825 01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:41.039 Some kind of scam say I'm starting such shuts from 1826 01:39:41.079 --> 01:39:43.439 the Hamletin County Shriffs office. You can go to this 1827 01:39:43.479 --> 01:39:46.840 website right here, and see me. So again, these data 1828 01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:49.600 breaches are relevant to you as an individual because it 1829 01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:52.039 gives the bad guys information to use against you, either 1830 01:39:52.079 --> 01:39:55.399 to impersonate you in creating accounts in your name, or 1831 01:39:55.720 --> 01:39:58.239 to have information that would allow them to impersonate someone 1832 01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:01.000 you work with regularly. To make these kinds of scams 1833 01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.640 more legit. So we're sitting on accounts, my wife and I. 1834 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:06.680 She gets a text from our bank USAA claims there's 1835 01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:09.960 fraud on our account. Call this number. So she again 1836 01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:13.800 reminds us, it's very easy to spoof a phone number 1837 01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:15.960 to go find out what is a legitimate number at 1838 01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:19.159 USAA or us bank or wherever, and send a text 1839 01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:22.119 message or make a voice call from that number. It's 1840 01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:25.199 very easy, doesn't require any skill in our websites. You 1841 01:40:25.239 --> 01:40:27.479 can go to right now and do this. So that's 1842 01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:29.920 the first thing. Be aware of spoofing. I keep bringing 1843 01:40:29.960 --> 01:40:33.399 that up because it's unfortunately very easy for the bad 1844 01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:36.439 guys to do. So we get this text, she calls 1845 01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:39.119 the number. I'm sitting there next to her, and they 1846 01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:41.880 start asking questions that to me, they already should know 1847 01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.760 the answer to. Here's a tip, carry jar if your 1848 01:40:44.800 --> 01:40:46.840 bank doesn't know your bank account number. 1849 01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:50.039 It's not your bank, yeah. 1850 01:40:50.039 --> 01:40:52.279 Or they want you to confirm it. Wait, you called me. 1851 01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:55.239 Why would you need me to confirm information when you 1852 01:40:55.479 --> 01:40:56.000 called me. 1853 01:40:56.119 --> 01:40:59.359 And there was something similar that happened in this phone call, 1854 01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:03.239 and she said, well, you ought to know that, and 1855 01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:03.720 then we knew. 1856 01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:07.199 If they ask for your credentials, here, here's your name 1857 01:41:07.199 --> 01:41:09.880 and passwork, they can reset your passwork. They do not 1858 01:41:10.039 --> 01:41:12.840 need to know your password if it's your legitimate bank. Right, So, 1859 01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:17.920 anytime they start asking questions about things, they should already 1860 01:41:17.960 --> 01:41:20.359 know either you're working with a terrible bank and you 1861 01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:23.159 should find a new bank, or you're getting scammed, right, 1862 01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:25.640 so those should be red flags. You know, my wife 1863 01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:28.760 hung up it was death obviously a scam. Yeah, thankfully 1864 01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:31.119 we managed to avoid that. But yeah, this happens all 1865 01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:34.359 the time. It's easy to spoof a phone number. It's 1866 01:41:34.399 --> 01:41:36.720 easy to get phone numbers that know that you work 1867 01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:38.439 or company X, Y or Z E because of these 1868 01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:41.640 data breaches or maybe something you posted online. Yeah, sadly, 1869 01:41:42.239 --> 01:41:44.960 people need to be extremely skeptical. And in a scenario 1870 01:41:45.079 --> 01:41:47.840 like that, my advice would be to do what you did, 1871 01:41:48.199 --> 01:41:51.119 hang up, go log into your account and you know, 1872 01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:54.359 check there and or get out your bank statement, or 1873 01:41:54.399 --> 01:41:57.479 find a number once you've logged into your account and 1874 01:41:57.520 --> 01:42:00.039 call using a number that you've used before. Something you 1875 01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:02.720 can verify, like from a bank statement. Sure it can't 1876 01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:03.800 be spoofed or scammed. 1877 01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:06.000 Right, Well, here's another scam. 1878 01:42:06.079 --> 01:42:10.720 Dave Hatter scammers swindled an older man in California out 1879 01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:14.199 of twenty five grand by using AI voice technology to 1880 01:42:14.239 --> 01:42:19.000 claim his son was in horrible accident needed money for bail. 1881 01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:23.520 It was absolutely in the old man's ears. It was 1882 01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:30.239 absolutely his son's voice. And this technology has gotten so 1883 01:42:30.760 --> 01:42:36.560 far advanced the deep fake AI. The voice soundedlike technology. 1884 01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:38.079 It's incredible. 1885 01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:42.760 I just can't stress enough, I think. And this speaks 1886 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:45.279 to spooping, which we've now talked about numerous times. Right, 1887 01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:47.760 if the form was spoofing, I could call from any 1888 01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:51.039 number I want and then potentially use this AI's voice 1889 01:42:51.079 --> 01:42:54.119 cloning software to close someone's voice to convince you that 1890 01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:58.359 you're talking to that person. So could I potentially find 1891 01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:00.800 your son's phone number in a data reach because you 1892 01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:04.239 listed him in a background check? Maybe his name and 1893 01:43:04.319 --> 01:43:06.960 phone number? Could I call? And now most people are 1894 01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:08.880 going to say, but wait, a minute, How would you 1895 01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:10.079 get the Sun's voice? 1896 01:43:10.399 --> 01:43:10.640 Right? 1897 01:43:11.079 --> 01:43:13.359 And here's my answer to everyone, because you know, I 1898 01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:15.640 think we've talked about this before, Garret Jef. I've done 1899 01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:17.800 a couple of TV interviews, one with John matter Reechs 1900 01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:20.439 where we cloned this voice real time on TV using 1901 01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:23.520 a free tool. Literally went out, found a website to 1902 01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:25.680 claim to do it, set up an account with no 1903 01:43:25.800 --> 01:43:30.359 previous experience, no experience using that site except for you know, 1904 01:43:30.399 --> 01:43:33.680 forty five minutes before John showed up, and then you know, 1905 01:43:33.760 --> 01:43:35.960 no cost. It was a free site. We cloned his voice. 1906 01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:38.880 You can watch me type in what his voice says 1907 01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:42.039 coming out of my speakers. So this technology is absolutely 1908 01:43:42.079 --> 01:43:45.279 real to your point, it continues to improve. This is 1909 01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:48.119 one of many examples like this. But again getting back 1910 01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:50.039 to well, I'm not a celebrity like John matt Reeves, 1911 01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:51.199 how would you get my voice? 1912 01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:51.600 Hey? 1913 01:43:51.640 --> 01:43:53.960 If I know your phone number, can I call that 1914 01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:56.680 phone number and possibly get a voice greeting of you 1915 01:43:56.840 --> 01:43:59.560 telling me I'm not there, leave the message maybe and 1916 01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:01.439 if I can't, and guess what I'm you in about 1917 01:44:01.479 --> 01:44:04.279 fifteen minutes, Because you only need a few seconds of 1918 01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:07.000 someone's voice in most cases with Matt a Reis. He 1919 01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:11.039 literally trained the tool by reading a sentence. But if 1920 01:44:11.079 --> 01:44:13.199 I can download your voice because I can find it 1921 01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:16.159 in a video posted online somewhere, or because I can 1922 01:44:16.199 --> 01:44:17.319 call your phone. 1923 01:44:17.159 --> 01:44:18.840 And hear your voice, I'm you. 1924 01:44:19.239 --> 01:44:21.159 So when people say this could never happen to me, 1925 01:44:21.640 --> 01:44:24.399 how is this possible? Now? You know this doesn't I 1926 01:44:24.439 --> 01:44:26.840 don't think they know exactly how this all went down. 1927 01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:29.319 But to your point, the guy claims in the interview 1928 01:44:29.720 --> 01:44:32.159 that you know, it absolutely sounded like his son, and 1929 01:44:32.239 --> 01:44:34.560 unfortunately he was scammed out of a lot of money. 1930 01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:37.720 You know, this is often known as the grandparents scam. 1931 01:44:37.760 --> 01:44:39.840 It's been around for a long time. My dad got 1932 01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:42.840 one of these calls once. Now this is probably it 1933 01:44:42.920 --> 01:44:45.119 was four or five years ago, probably before it was 1934 01:44:45.199 --> 01:44:47.920 any kind of AI involved. Because in some cases, you know, 1935 01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:49.560 they're calling in the middle of the night and they 1936 01:44:49.560 --> 01:44:51.920 say they have a cold or whatever. You know, they're 1937 01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:55.600 social engineering. You catch you off guard with some kind 1938 01:44:55.600 --> 01:44:58.800 of urgency, right. Typically in the scams, there's a major problem. 1939 01:44:58.880 --> 01:45:00.760 It's urgent you get to do. Acts are trying to 1940 01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:03.279 get you to act before you stop and think about it. 1941 01:45:03.600 --> 01:45:06.800 But I just can't stress enough to folks, This voice 1942 01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:11.359 cloning deep fake AI thing is real. There are increasing 1943 01:45:11.439 --> 01:45:14.159 reports of it being used in a variety of different scams, 1944 01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:17.079 not the least of which are on individuals like this 1945 01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:20.279 poor gentleman here who apparently lost twenty five grand as 1946 01:45:20.319 --> 01:45:20.920 a result of it. 1947 01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:27.439 Well, and people who are routinely their voice is routinely 1948 01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:32.680 out in you know, in space like here, on the radio, 1949 01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:34.880 or on TV as you mentioned, or a movie or 1950 01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:40.760 a politician or whatever. For somebody like Bill Cunningham or 1951 01:45:40.920 --> 01:45:44.039 Scott Sloan or a Gary Jeff Walker, it would be 1952 01:45:44.199 --> 01:45:49.119 very easy to just to record the show for about 1953 01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:53.119 five minutes and they would have me saying anything and everything. 1954 01:45:53.840 --> 01:45:58.359 The problem with the scammers is that I'm likely to 1955 01:45:58.399 --> 01:46:03.079 say anything at all at any time, so you know, 1956 01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:05.760 I might have a hard time talking myself out of 1957 01:46:05.800 --> 01:46:06.760 being faked like that. 1958 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:10.880 Well, Jerry, yeah that's a good point. 1959 01:46:10.960 --> 01:46:13.680 But yeah, I mean, anyone that's in the public eye 1960 01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:17.720 on a regular basis, you know, audio, video, public speaking, 1961 01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:21.239 et cetera, is potentially going to be at more risk 1962 01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:23.640 because if there's someone who doesn't have a social media 1963 01:46:23.680 --> 01:46:27.359 presence short of like a voicemail greeting, how would someone 1964 01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:31.279 get your voice. But yeah, it's it's a common tactic, folks. 1965 01:46:31.279 --> 01:46:34.159 Man have seen the story, you know that Ferrari was 1966 01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:37.239 almost had a bunch of money stolen using this very 1967 01:46:37.239 --> 01:46:40.359 technique where the quote CEO of Ferrari was, you know, 1968 01:46:40.399 --> 01:46:44.079 instructing the CFO of Ferrari over a phone call after 1969 01:46:44.119 --> 01:46:47.479 some previous messaging to go do something. And eventually the 1970 01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:50.760 CFO that the Chief Finance Office that something's not right 1971 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:54.119 here and asked the CEO about a book recommendation that 1972 01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:57.039 the CEO had made, which of course the gamer couldn't answer. 1973 01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:00.760 But yeah, we're seeing this boat, you know, as a 1974 01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:03.520 tax on corporations as well as a tax on individuals 1975 01:47:03.560 --> 01:47:06.199 because you know, if you can, if you could scam 1976 01:47:06.239 --> 01:47:08.760 a couple thousand dollars out of this individual as a 1977 01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:11.600 couple of times a day, if you're in a country 1978 01:47:11.600 --> 01:47:14.359 where there's no jobs, no opportunity, but you got a 1979 01:47:14.399 --> 01:47:16.439 lot of time on your hands and access to the internet, 1980 01:47:16.479 --> 01:47:18.520 which is where so much of this clime comes from. 1981 01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:21.319 Southeast Well, yeah. 1982 01:47:21.199 --> 01:47:24.720 Southeast Asia folks really need to be. 1983 01:47:24.800 --> 01:47:25.960 Aware that this is the thing. 1984 01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:30.479 Sadly, yes, indeed, well, thank you for spreading the awareness. 1985 01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:32.079 Mister hatter as always. 1986 01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:35.319 It's always my pleasure, Gary Jeff. 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