Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the Challenge.
Speaker 2: The podcasts all about the Challenge. It's always I am
Brian singing across from his home, hoping, hoping that he's
gonna get really drunk and labed and manxious, and Harry
Chatty apparently is.
Speaker 3: A big uncle sweeteae. And by the way, I don't
have to hope I have full control over this. It's
happening on the way, and.
Speaker 2: Then sitting in her home just waiting to go down under.
Tonight after the show.
Speaker 4: Is Carlo san Diego and.
Speaker 2: As always, sitting at work hoping his boss doesn't reappear.
Speaker 5: Zachie Banana.
Speaker 2: Everybody, they have a Challenge pot dot com joined the
Facebook group. You can also join our patreon. I don't
know just about how many things they want to chat about,
since Carlin really wants to make this a quick one
and we should holes.
Speaker 4: You guys are such ass holes.
Speaker 2: Carlin, what was this episode about?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I do have something really quick. At the
top of the show, Carlin, do not. I'm going to
make it longer, Carlin. If you give me that eyeball,
I can I can do it. Believe me, I can't.
Speaker 4: What do you want to chat about tim.
Speaker 3: I'm doing this record. I'm nearing the end of it.
But I think what would be really cool is if
the listeners wanted to chime in and be part of
this record. So I opened a voicemail line. If people
want to call in and leave a voicemail, maybe you
can find yourself on this record. So do that area
code seven seven nine nine oh one zero seven three four,
leave a voicemail seven seven nine nine oh one three
or I'm shit, let me start over seven to seven
nine nine oh one oh seven three four.
Speaker 4: We can post it to the Instagram and Facebook and
all that sort of thing too. Yeah, yeah, you know,
leave us messages. If you you know, happen to be
friends with people like CT or Johnny Banas or Emily
or you know, you can get them on the phone.
We can set them all on the phone. A few
years ago, they left voicemails for us. Sounded vaguely like
the people that they were supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we have this. We have this archived
on the discorder. You can join the Patreon, join the discord,
and you can hear all the old voicemails. We've got
wonder there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kyle, maybe not the Kyle that we know, but
the Kyle called in. I think we had a Melissa
call in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of good ones.
Speaker 4: Yep, it was a lot of fun. They were hysterical
to listen to.
Speaker 3: All Right, all right, who goes home Born? Ready, let's
do it.
Speaker 4: But I did not get the title for this episode
because I forgot to. So season forty episode.
Speaker 2: It was an era tradition.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, an era tradition.
Speaker 3: Terrible name by the way, terrible, yeah, really terrible name,
no pun, no rhyme, no nothing, what is that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: Well, we started off with a clip from Cyrus, which
my notes corrected to surrup not very helpful. Which I
wasn't really sure as to why they did this clip
from Cyrus because he's not in this game.
Speaker 3: It was a weird, but I like that it was
a throwback to one that was like a million years old,
and for some reason, I remember that moment when Cyrus
did that, like I don't know, it was a weird
moment that I was sort of into.
Speaker 4: Three or something. It was a long ass time ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't have any relevance to this episode that
I could see. It was a weird moment that they picked,
but I still appreciated it.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this whole episode made me real heated. We start off,
I mean, I'm sure everybody get real heated at it,
but you know, whatever. Start off back in the house,
we've got ct saying that he's ready to step up
for his team, even if it means going into elimination.
We've got Olivia calling out Josh for not stepping up
and saying that he backstabbed her, and you know all.
Speaker 3: Of that, bitch. But you know, Josh, to his credit,
I don't know if we're there yet, but he just
admitted he's like, yeah, I was gonna volunteer, and then
when c T did, I was scared, and then I didn't.
Speaker 4: It was a time, dude, you did volunteer in front
of your entire team, and just bitch time.
Speaker 2: He tried to be like, well, everybody heard I was
going to throw myself in, so then that's when they
all wanted to go in. Yeah, this dude gives himself
a lot of credit this episode.
Speaker 4: Far too much credit.
Speaker 5: But you know, we also don't give him enough cut
because he's only he is now if we count this
ups as well, he's now one of three people who
was volunteering going in backed off. Yet we're not talking
about the other tree. I mean we might later tonight,
But who was it someone else said last week?
Speaker 2: We didn't even mess that.
Speaker 3: I think what you're getting at, though, Zach, is that
Josh is well liked in the house that it seems
like he does not suffer repercussions for things that other people.
Speaker 4: And yes, we definitely did talk about them last week
because Corey said that he was going to I think
it was Corey who said he was going to volunteer
and then didn't. Yeah, yeah, we did call him a bitch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna call and we're about to call Johnny
a bitch.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, I feel.
Speaker 5: Like over the past week just the fan base in
general has given Josh a hard time. I haven't really
seen anyone giving him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the fan base just hates Josh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, rightfully so because he's an idiot.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, well.
Speaker 5: If they hate me standing up for Josh, just until
they see what I do with Laurel Oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, just take Johnny sucked.
Speaker 2: Josh's dick doesn't mean he's got to be your new
best friend.
Speaker 4: I may not be able to do this show anymore.
Speaker 3: Carl's gonna leave the show.
Speaker 4: Zach, you you better.
Speaker 3: Later. I hope we have some I hope we have
some details on what happened with that thing, because I
don't know details.
Speaker 2: Car car put out a whole video explaining her.
Speaker 3: I watched that, but she didn't. She didn't talk about
the event.
Speaker 5: We're not there.
Speaker 4: We're not there yet. We're not there yet, all right,
all right, okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we stove just got really excited at the concept
Carlin might leave.
Speaker 3: We always just got to going back to the previous
winner of the contest. It's like, oh, that's that's a
new host forever, all right.
Speaker 4: Uh oh yeah. So Emily is super confident about nominating herself,
and it's just we've got a bunch of these. And
then Tina's talking about how it's a she thinks it's
a good team to be a good thing, to be
a target with CT because CT is so strong in
this game. And then we get a real quick clip
of Carra and Laurel playing yard games, and then both
of them having talking heads about how they basically can't
stand each other. Why the fuck are you playing yard
games then like seem weird understand why they keep doing
this ship.
Speaker 3: The interaction felt uncomfortable to me. In the.
Speaker 4: We did get Olivia at one point in time, breaking
the fourth wall and looking directly at the camera and
pointing at the camera and pointing to the side because
Devin and Michelle were making out. We haven't seen that
in a while, breaking the fourth.
Speaker 3: Wall bit do we care about Devin and Michelle?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I also don't care about Olivia and THEO THEO. I do. Uh.
Speaker 5: Emily did an interview this week about another hookup that
may or may not make care that much more excited
about two of the ladies. Oh, apparently there was also
when Michelle wasn't in bed with Devin, she was in
bed with Laurel. Oh my shell strikes again.
Speaker 3: Adds another wrinkle to this.
Speaker 4: Michelle was in bed with Laurel, but they can't fucking stand,
like they freaked out at each other. Like I called
some bullshit on that one.
Speaker 5: I buy.
Speaker 3: I totally buy that Laurel does that with Nicole all
the time. She's a crazy person.
Speaker 5: And like we just talked about the yard games, like
I believe talking something too about like Laurel will chill
with car and like people shouldn't like and just like
co exist, but don't try to be friends with her, like,
well we'll play games. We'll just you know, do our thing.
Speaker 4: Fucking psycho.
Speaker 3: Yes she is. This episode proved it.
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ. Oh yeah, we've got let's see, we've got Neamiyah.
This comes back to bite him in the ass later
on me and Maiah trying to make a deal with
Devin and pathetic.
Speaker 3: This is so pathetic.
Speaker 4: I can't say yes or no because I have other
people in my alliance that I need to be on
the same team with.
Speaker 3: I don't mind people making deals, that's part of the game.
By the way he approached this, it just was pathetic. Also, yeah,
I don't know. I didn't like the Oh, I just
appreciate your game. I love how you maneuver through it.
It's like, gosh, we don't need that. Yep.
Speaker 4: And then this is when we get Josh just talking
to his team about how he's mad because he's been
put in the vacation alliance. I have literally never heard
of this.
Speaker 3: Oh, Carlin has a life offline. It's amazing.
Speaker 5: Vacation.
Speaker 4: This is the first time I'd ever heard of it.
Speaker 5: Because people it's been like running the show for the
last four or five years.
Speaker 4: Yes, the Vacation Alliance, for those who don't know, are
Josh Casey, Devon Tory, and apparently John A because they
stayed at Across.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were just very close friends and that you know,
it's it's like we've always talked about the alliances are
really just friendships. These are these are close friends, but
they are close friends outside of the home, which means
that they are like super close in the gate, like
like a very tight alliance.
Speaker 4: Josh said that their alliance has been dominating every season,
like he's part of the reason. The other people in
this alliance may have been dominant eating the last few seasons,
But Josh, you have nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2: You have won one elimination in your entire challenge career.
Speaker 4: No, he has. He just only won it because he
had a partner who could win it for him.
Speaker 5: Anyway, Who's I think it's Toy That was on Zach's
podcast a week or two ago, and she has talked
about it. And also apparently like Johnny Loki was one
of the ones responsible for starting as well, right before
he did his hiatus. So she is saying, how like
Johnny cav planned into the Seeds with them, stopped doing
the show for a couple of seasons. They formed the
Vacation Alliance, and now Johnny's like not officially in, but
he's like grandfathered in where he gets like a free
ride from them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we are onto the challenge.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna smash his head, need it?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 5: Was all right?
Speaker 4: The challenge is called fast Pass and just a refresher
on the nominees from for this episode. So the targets
from this episode. Era one is CT and Tina, Era
two is Nehemyah and Emily. Era three is Devin and Tory,
and Era four is Kyland and Olivia. The game is
you have your again. We're still playing as teams. The
whole team has to pick up a giant y shaped
beam and run this y shaped beam through the woods
where things are not really spaced out well enough to
just kind of run straight through. They have pan of
maneuver and all of that sort of thing with this
very heavy, y shaped beam. Once they get to the
other side of the woods, they have to pick up
four sand bags that are all of varying weights and
bring them back, and then they have to do that
over again, and once they have all eight of their
bags back at the start line, then they have to
put them on a balance beam and get the balance
beam to balance out four on each and first team
to do that one.
Speaker 3: I like this one. It's unique, but it was hard
to watch on TV because I couldn't Yeah, you couldn't
see where everybody was, Like, it seemed like Era one
was way behind, but it was hard to like contextualize that.
And then I think the trees were sort of positioned
as such, it was hard to sort of even like
see where they were and where they were stuck. And
CT mentioned a short way and a long way, and
it's like I never quite got the concept of how
short the short cut was or why that was more difficult.
Speaker 4: Same I couldn't really understand exactly where everybody was in
it either, But I mean, ultimately every team, and there's
a lot of yelling at each other.
Speaker 3: Loved it.
Speaker 4: And all of the teams starts off the entire game
with trying to get Era one to stand their wy
on end so it's like twenty feet tall and run
it through the woods. So that it would be easy
to do that, but the moment that they get it
standing up, it falls immediately over because it's too heavy
and too like awkwardly balanced.
Speaker 2: Bad idea just didn't take the weight.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think if it were a slightly differently shaped,
why if it weren't too big too long, like ninety
degree angle pieces in one short one. If if those
if they were all like evenly sized, it might be
a little bit easier. Yeah, it was. It was odd.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't gonna work. And there was moments I
still don't know right, like the Tina versus everybody else.
It's like I don't know who was right because it
never like it's hard to see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can, I can tell on that either.
Speaker 5: There was.
Speaker 4: It was a lot of a lot of yelling at
each other in Era one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jordan too. I like seeing Jordan get worked
up and start yelling at people. I'm so glad I'm not.
Speaker 4: There out on toy like two or three times.
Speaker 3: It's I love watching it. I'm so glad I don't
have to like be there for it. But oh, he's
great to watch on TV. When he gets mad, it's fun.
Speaker 2: It's better it's better when he's mad at an entire group.
I don't like it when he gets mad in like
a one on one situation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, points it at a single person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially, and it's I'm like, yeah, go for it.
Speaker 3: So you're okay, You're okay. This episode will because he
was just pissed at everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody to level, they're.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we get a CT pro tip, keep it simple,
which his team was not doing.
Speaker 3: Yep, I fee the last pro tip we get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, about that, bummer. I really enjoyed the CT pro tips.
Speaker 5: Zachy pro tip, don't lose eliminations.
Speaker 4: So Era two and four get their second set of
bags before Era one even gets there first. That was
the only thing that you could kind of tell where
people were at because Era one was just dragging ass.
They were not doing well.
Speaker 3: It seemed like they were doing worse than it even looked.
I mean, it just seemed like they were embarrassingly bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, was doing really really well. Era two was right
on their asses. And then we come to find out
that Laurels thre throwing the challenge because Emily is the
target and Laurel isn't like a little bit throwing the challenge.
Laurel is obviously throwing the challenge, like standing off its side,
not picking up meme, not helping out when they're moving.
Speaker 3: If Laura wasn't otherwise decent person, would this be something
that bothers you, Carlyn Nerds a less.
Speaker 4: I mean, it would still bother me because they play
the game, I would understand it a lot more. But
because Laurel is just such a fucking asshole, this is
just another drop in that bucket of Oh look it's
Laurel being a fucking asshole.
Speaker 5: This doesn't bother me at all, just because, Yeah, I
feel like Big Brother and Survivor and all these other shows,
like purposely throwing challenges to like eliminate competition is a
legitimate strategy. So I'm like that. You know, it's kind
of a crappy thing to do, but it's a smart thing. Possibly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's part of the challenge too, Like they remember
the trimming the fat seasons, like Evan and Kenny, it's
trimming the fat they would do it to.
Speaker 4: Definitely, it's definitely a part of this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a strategy and really to get out Emily
like it worked out and get worked out for her,
you know, competitively. I get it. It's a good move
as a competitor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, problem I have fas does if it gets done
to her. Once it gets done to her, she will
be like, how unfair everybody's against.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well she did even this episode. She did this
episode with like, why is car so upset? I just
threw her in It's no big deal. And then with
the Michelle thing, it's like, fuck you, Michelle, you threw me,
and of course I hate you for the rest of
your life.
Speaker 4: In five seasons ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's it's this, It's it's the hypocrisy that
bothers you Wolf. You're not the not that it's like
sort of unsportsmanlike to throw a challenge. Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 4: No I she just makes my fucking blood boil. I
hope she goes home next episode.
Speaker 3: She's on my she's on my team, and she's like
going to be a high score person for the for
the drama Alone stays forever.
Speaker 2: Johnny Banana is on my team, and I really hope
he goes on.
Speaker 3: Next Well, I need more points than you to.
Speaker 2: Credit I think, so you're doing better than me.
Speaker 3: Only by Zach Scord, by every other measure.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So ultimately Air four wins and Era one loses by
a lot, in which case Tina and CT start screaming
at each other, but it only lasts for like, not
even to it. It lasts for like a minute, and
then they immediately both apologize, like sincerely apologize to each other.
Speaker 2: I love Yeah, it specifically is CT and Tina. Yeah,
it's like these two they're just screaming at each other,
and then CT's still yelling at her. He's like, I'm sorry, Tina,
I'm just frustrated, so am I CT. And that's like
the end of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: You could see how much growth both of these characters
have had over the last twenty plus years.
Speaker 3: The next time you see him talking, they're in the
house and they're just like fine, Like they're just talking
like nothing ever happened, it's no big deal. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was very impressed with that. It made me really happy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh and just for Zachie Bananas, this is when we
get a talking head from Devon saying that CT is
the best challenger of all time.
Speaker 5: Well he's wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it might be Jordan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 5: I always say the point of the game is to win,
and no one has won more than Johnny's until someone
matches or surpasses his win total, he's the best.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but CT has got more money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the win total is is that's like
the I don't know. I don't think that's a great
strategy to pick a winner.
Speaker 4: All right, So back in the house, Yeah, this is
you know, CT and Tina, they're having their little conversation
and they basically say, we're not We're not gonna say
shit in this deliberation. We are not going to make
it easy for them. We're going to make them choose.
We are not going to give them the easy way out.
I appreciate it. And then we get deliberation and Neamiah
calls out the vacation Alliance. Devin says that that's not
a real thing, which we all know is fake, but whatever.
Devin then throws it back at Neemiah and calls him
out for trying to make a deal for him and Emily,
and Emily immediately like whips her header.
Speaker 3: Un excuse me?
Speaker 4: Was I there? Did I try to make this deal?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, no no.
Speaker 3: Do you think she really didn't know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 3: This is a total shock.
Speaker 5: Then, Yeah, I think she is blindsided by.
Speaker 4: It because this is the first time in this game
where Emily's name has been thrown into something where she's like,
I didn't have shit to do with this, what are
you doing? Like when Laurel called a uh Darrell two
episodes ago, last episode whatever? Yeah, yeah, I do think
that it was just like both Devn and Neemiah were
trying to throw at Emily's name to kind of bolster
their arguments and it didn't work for them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate Nimia and I hate him doing this.
There scenes like this is when I hate.
Speaker 4: There are seasons where I like him, but like this
is Yeah, that was that telling someone to shush like.
Speaker 3: In the hand motion. Oh yeah, drives me nuts. So
kind of scending.
Speaker 4: I loved every time they panned over to ct and
Tina though, just sitting there with like faces, looking like
they're eating popcorn.
Speaker 3: Great. This room is weird, though. We need a better room,
better table in this room.
Speaker 4: Oh and we also get a talking him from Tori
pointing out that Devon has beat both Wes and Johnny
in eliminations and his fun like low key has a
really good record.
Speaker 3: Yes, he does, Yes, he does. He's not he doesn't
look as like big an athletic as all these dudes,
but he's number one super smart, which helps him a
lot in these challenges. He's really good at puzzles and
he's athletic enough like that's to beat Wes in like
a running game. It's like he's he's he's there. Yeah,
he's he's better than he looks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do find have funny enough to Guys have
noticed on Twitter today though or this week that uh,
I guess the last two days, a lot of fans
are rejecting this idea that he beat Devin in a
final or the A B C. Who is it Jordan?
Jordan in the final. They're saying, no, yeah, he said.
They're saying he didn't beat Jordan's he beat Anissa. It
doesn't count as a win.
Speaker 3: Over Jordan though.
Speaker 4: True. But Zach, to your point earlier, if finals are all,
if you know, winning challenges and winning the game is
all that counts, then he'd beat Jordan in a final.
Speaker 5: Because I'm not disagreeing with that, but a lot of
fan seem bitter about that.
Speaker 4: I can understand that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it too, but let's not take credit
away from him. He said all those things.
Speaker 4: No, I mean he's and they were, they were doing
really well in the final all right, and then we
get Michelle is still trying to get on Laurel's good side.
Speaker 3: Why but if they're hooking up, this makes it make
more sense, right, if they're hooking up. I mean, I
guess you want to you want to be you want
to like the person that you're hooking up with, You
do you? I mean, ideally that's a better situation.
Speaker 4: It just this is the first time that Laurel starts
acting in this episode like a fucking petulant child, like
it just I but.
Speaker 3: This is her, this is her thing, Like we've this
is your first first time this episode, but we see
this every season. She acts like a child.
Speaker 4: She gets get has not grown, she has no no anything.
Speaker 3: She's worse than she was back then.
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah. And then Kara just happens to be She
walks into the room to stand on office watching this
whole exchange and then says like, because Michelle is trying
to be friends with Laurel, and finally says, you know,
I this isn't ever going to be a thing, Like
we're never going to be able to be friends and Kara,
you know, not actually attacking Laurel and I understand, like
this is this is definitely a bullshit thing to do
in front of Laurea, like we all know what you're doing.
But tells Michelle like, I'll be your friend. I'll be
your friend outside this house. Yeah, and you know that
it's just like needling a Laurel. But it really does
seem like she really did seem to kind of realize
in that moment, like, oh this is this is kind
of like how Laurel and I started.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was. I think it was both things.
I do think she was absolutely intentionally needling Laurel, but
I also think she was like rescuing Michelle, like she
saw what Michelle was going through, She's been through that,
and it was sort of like I think that was
Cars saying snowball. Yeah. I think that was Car saying
like I know how you're feeling, like come here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I do think the snowball.
Speaker 4: Now before it continues to what Laurel.
Speaker 3: I don't think her motivations were purely negative, is what
I'm trying to say. I don't think it was purely
with Laurel.
Speaker 4: But I think it's like a fifty to fifty thing, probably.
Speaker 2: Because did you watch her video, Carling.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't know that she put one out.
Speaker 3: It was good, it was worth watching.
Speaker 4: We're about to get into the into the Laurel and
car fight. Do we need that first or well, she.
Speaker 2: Confirms that she was literally upstairs talking to Tina about
Tina was like, you know what Laurel's making Michelle the
new you? How she used to treat you Michelle now?
And she literally came downstairs and it was totally happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just right in front of her face, which is why.
Speaker 3: She went into the same It's worth watching, Carlin, because
apparently this is like a two hour fight, oh that
they condensed down to a few minutes. So car does
like the whole like step by step, and you know,
like when you get into it later. Michelle walked back
into her faces beat red and like she explains why
and like there's a.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll have to I'll watch it when we get
off later. Yeah. No, that's just me. Uh, let me
get a scene of Kara and Emily talking about this
whole Laurel and car Maria relationship and all of these things,
and then they go into you saw the Laurel through
the Challenge. Yeah, you saw the Laurel through the like
Laurel through the Challenge, And we get Kara calling out
Laurel for her insecurity and anger that are just not
buried very deep and just come out all the time.
And I agree with.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I do too. Uh yeah, So what Wolfe
said was all true about this fight, but apparently how
it ended is that Laurel made some motion let's get body, let's.
Speaker 4: Get into the let's get into the fight, because we
have actually gone through that. So first, really quickly, we
get a ct in john A talking, which I found
a weird pairing. Yeah, and john Ay is saying that
she doesn't want to self nominate, and see saying that
he thinks that Johnny's trying too hard and trying to
be the mayor of Challenge Bill, which I found funny.
But this that will come back to bite her and
the ass later on.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: Yes, So now we've got the fight between Laurel and
Carl Maria. Kara is dyeing her hair and Laurel comes
up to her and says something along the lines of like,
why are you acting so weird with me, and it's like, Laurel,
it's because you're a fucking asshole to her, and then
they just start going at it. It starts relatively calm,
and then Laurel gets in Kara's face and they're bow
saying shit to each other. Laurel tries to like Kara
is yelling at Laurel, but Laurel is also like has
backed Kara up against a wall and it's right in
front of her, and Cara is screaming at Laurel. Laurel's
trying to like bullshit reason her way out of it.
She calls Kara Maria the most unself aware person in
the house, and I think that that is one of
the most illusional things that she has ever said in
her life.
Speaker 3: That's Laurel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is listening to this. Everybody is seeing
what's going on.
Speaker 3: Even did you catch it that that she said that
she threw out the when you point, there's three fingers
pointed back at you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's then pointing at herself.
Speaker 3: But seconds seconds later she points at Kara and then
she I think she realized she did it, so then
she puted her old hand at Kara. Yeah, it's like,
that's not how it works, Laurel, You're so fucking horrible.
Speaker 4: She kept doing this, like when you're pointing at someone
else three fingers, you're pointing back at you. She kept
saying that like ye, but while she's doing like what
are you doing? This all sounds fucking insane. And then
it goes into Kara basically like Laurel says that Kara
keeps getting mad at her because she says that Laurel
doesn't have her back, and then she brings up the
one season, one time when Laurel had her back.
Speaker 3: Years ago, fifteen years ago, yeah.
Speaker 4: And freaks out saying I did have your back blah
blah blah. And then Carr goes back at her like
I had your back literally last season, Like had it
last season to the point where I was trying to
tell you that this relationship that you're trying to pursue
is going to end into that, like you are being played.
And then Laurel just fucking freaks out. Security gets called.
They're pulling them apart like they're both visibly upset.
Speaker 3: Well, So the part that we didn't see is that
apparently Laurel did some body motion movement thing that harkened
back to some sort of trauma that Carl Maria went through.
Speaker 2: The legally allowed to bring up.
Speaker 3: I got the impression, which is why I was cut
out of the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's legally not allowed to be talked about,
like an Abram violence thing.
Speaker 3: Or maybe Kyle or maybe a Kyle violence Kyle violent
h I mean, ABE seems more likely. The internet seems
sort of torn, and I don't have any insights.
Speaker 4: I would say if it's if it's about Laurel having
Carra's back, I would think it would be Abram because
I don't feel like she and Kara were on good
terms when she was with Kyle.
Speaker 2: Caras said that they built this hole I've had your
back before thing around their Rivals season. Because they keep
showing that footage. She's like, it has nothing to do
with that. I wish they would take that footage and
throw it in the garbage because that's not even what
we were talking about in that moment.
Speaker 4: But it's the only time that we see Laurel actually
have Car's back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this seems like this, this whatever motion it
was that Laurel did was bad enough that it's what
turned the house. Like that's why if you recall, Ryan
was on team Laurel from All Stars fort Now Ryan's
on team Kara.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 4: Ryan mentioned something when we went to Challenge Mania that
there was like that Laurel did something that.
Speaker 5: So this was it.
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if we ever going to know
the d tales of exactly what she did or said
or what it was about, but it seems bad. It
seems bad enough that the whole house turned on her
car had to be taken away and do like visits
with a psychiatrist or psychologist whatever.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: We talked about that a little bit at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Of the season, and Laurel had to be sort of
like the security guards followed her around for days because
Laurel could have couldn't be trusted to like not cause shit.
So this is like a big fight that was maybe
bigger than what even we saw. Wow, And it makes
Laurelo even worse.
Speaker 2: That's why Car is like bawling by the end of
this fight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's triggered, traumatically triggered.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can understand that. All right, Zach, you want
to back up Laurel.
Speaker 3: On this one, I do.
Speaker 5: So, saying I don't think Laurel's in a simus. I'm
not saying she did nothing wrong. But I mesked you
guys about this last week. Last week, Johnny real mad
at that.
Speaker 4: I got real mad at that, did not respond because
I think your take is real wrong, Okay.
Speaker 5: And then this week he had Emily on, who also
basically confirmed, which is like, we can't. You guys had
touched on it earlier about like when she went to
Michelle in front of Laurel and was like, I'll be
your friend. I do that, Like he said, that's fifty
percent authentic, fifty percent needling Laurel. And what Emily, Johnny
and Jordan of all said is that type of thing
Car is doing to Laurel three four, five, six times
a day, every single day, and then every few days
Laurel will blow up on her. But because you know,
Car is presented as the fan favorite, production doesn't show that.
But the house cut, the people on the shot are saying, like, no,
it's Kara just in there poking Laurel all day, every day,
NonStop to make Laurel blow up, and then she plays victim.
Speaker 2: So you're saying.
Speaker 4: Laurel different thing. Sorry, So you're.
Speaker 2: Saying Laurel is mentally weak, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4: It's also, this is a game, like the whole point
of this, Like you talk about the challenges being thrown
is part of the game. So is needling your other players.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there is a big difference. And I see
what you're getting at, Zach. There is some antagonizing going
on and stuff like that. Yeah, but it's like the
difference between like, oh, yeah, I've flicked his ear on
the bus versus like, well, I hit him in the
head of the baseball bat. You know. It's like, well,
one's worse, you know, and like triggering whatever this traumatic
event is from the past, Like that's a worse thing,
like a lot worse. And it's not you know, it's
not comparable.
Speaker 4: It's no, not in any way. And it's also the
thing of like I get that they're all in a house,
and I get that they're on a show, and I
get that they're on a team. But there are ways
for Laurel to just not interact, like basically tell Kara
I don't want to interact with you, like if she's
around her, just straight up act like there's no one there.
There are ways to do that, but Laurel lets it
get underskin. Laurel lets it be all of these things.
And then she has the audacity to say that Kara
is not good at this game. This is kind of
car being good at this game. She's getting under yours again.
Speaker 5: I meant, well, I had to I forgot with them,
but one of those like I could be like, yes,
that could be part of the game, but also like
I guess to me if that's true, and I'm curious
to see if more people come out and like confirm this.
Like it doesn't make what Laurel's doing okay, but it
makes me lose sympathy for Kara because it's like the
little kid that touches the hot stove. This has been
going on for ten years, and if Kara is like
gonna be like so offended and hurt by this stuff,
she could look back and be like, Hey, the last
nine years in a row, this has really hurt me.
Maybe I should stop needling Laurel. But she's like, I
think I'm gonna touch the hot stove again, and I'm
gonna do it again, So I'm kind of like, eventually
it's like, hey, you keep touching the hot stove. I
lose sympathy for you when you get burned.
Speaker 3: But isn't that can't you make that same statement about Laurel,
like if you keep doing this stupid shit that makes
the whole world hate you, like that's on you, Laurel,
like you're being horrible.
Speaker 4: I would really, I would really love to know what
kind of thing they are considering as needling Laurel, because like,
I have two younger siblings and they needed the shit
and they still needle the shit out of me.
Speaker 3: I think it was kind of like that. I'll be
your friend a little bit, like.
Speaker 4: Sort of respond to them with like bringing up traumatic
things in their past, Like you either just kind of
let it roll off your back and don't let it
bother you, or you bring it up in a constructive
way and have a conversation, like you can't keep doing this.
We cannot keep this thing going on between its because
it's not healthy for either of us. You don't have
to freak out in the way that she does.
Speaker 3: And my thing really is I'm fine with matching energies.
So like if cars being passive, aggressive and needling, like
Laurel should do that back. Yeah, but that's it like
you don't like if you escalate it, well, now that's
on you. And especially if you escalate it like Laura
went from zero to one thousand miles an hour. That's
Laurel's problem and Laura, that's not appropriate.
Speaker 4: You know, no matter what, there is a I can't remember
who brought the whose quote it was, but someone in
the someone had a talking head of like and it's
been brought up a few times if like they have
a very older sister younger sister kind of relationship, or
it kind of comes off that way. But the difference
is that Kara is trying to get out of that
younger sibling relationship and Laurel wants to keep her in
it and purely going off of like their talking heads
and seeing Kara try to be her friend consistently over
the years and just getting completely shut down over and
over and over again. That's what it comes off like
to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, I don't think it's the
most I mean, it's the most healthy way deal with that.
It seems like, you know, Laurel's way of dealing with
it is just like you're dead to me and like
I'll coexist with you, but I think that's the thing.
It's like, don't don't talk to me, Kara. But we
also see like it's not like Laurel goes seeking out
Carr being like, let's have a conversations there, Michelle, they're
coming to her. I think she just like cool, like
we'll live in the house.
Speaker 4: We're working back on Laurel started the conversation with Cara Maria.
Laurel went to Kara Maria and asked her why she
was being weird.
Speaker 3: Well, I think can we can we put a pin
in this and just say, like, these are all mentally
unstable people who fucking shit up and that's why we
watched them on TV and stuff like none, nobody is blameless,
nobody's innocent here. No, but on thousand percent, what Laurel
did was way worse. Like it just is like bringing
up these emotionally traumatic events, airing them in front of
television cameras and the whole house and shit, like these
private moments that were traumatic, Like this is not there's
no world where you can justify this and have it
be okay, Like that is not an appropriate thing to do.
I don't care how hard you were needled, it's you.
Speaker 4: Can't well, and my whole thing with this whole fight,
she like bat in the kitchen. A little bit later on,
when she's talking to Kylon, I think she tries to
say that Kara Maria was the one who started this fight.
Laurel started this fight. Laurel went to Kara and asked
her why she was acting weird, and Kara said that
it was because she was an asshole, Like Laurel is
the one who saw who saw this one out? Yeah,
that annoyed me.
Speaker 5: I'll have to go back and watch it because I
don't remember that part. I remember the first fight with Michelle.
Michelle came to her in the bedroom, and then Caara
came and jumped in. And then the second time, I
maytor Laurel being in the kitchen and then then coming
to her while she's trying to make a sandwich and
she's like, dude, just leave me alone, just trying to
like make a sandwich.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll never know. Unfortunately, we don't even know the
motion that Laurel did.
Speaker 4: Maybe they walked into the kitchen, but it was still
it was Laurel who asked Kara, why are you being
so weird? And maybe it was cut wrong. Maybe they
left out you know, Cara saying, you know, needling Laurel
in some way, but the way that they showed it
to us, which you know, you got to take it
at face Valley, because that's all what we see on TV,
because it's all we get. It looks like Laurel started it.
It looks like Laurel's the one who asked the first question.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't I don't know how you guys
feel about this. Like so last week I said, Johnny
and Jordan discuss this, both of them. I could say, like,
if you want to make arguments that they're gonna be
biased about it, I could buy that. I feel like
Emily generally, Like when she came on this week and confirmed,
I'm like Emily someone that I kind of trust her
opinion more than Johnny Joran's on the situation. When she's
like car is not blameless, I'm like, Okay, I think
you're more unbiased than those other two guys.
Speaker 4: Laurel is still Laurel is still just a fucking asshole,
like I think she does. She takes it way too
far with ever. She always has too.
Speaker 2: I've always called this because I have people that I've
known in my life who tend to do this, is
they immediately go to the nuclear option. It could be
like a small argument and they will immediately hit that
nuclear button and just go right to the worst, most
devastating thing that could possibly bring up.
Speaker 3: And I think that's just do that a lot. And
I think that's Laurel. I think that's a winning thing, right,
because that's Laurel's thing. Like Laura wants to win, win
a fight by any means necessary, win these challenges by
any means necessary. She's going for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just makes her a despicable human being, truly.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Tim's daughter's running in with the diorama of some sort.
Speaker 3: It's so hard to not tell her she's cute when
she's being cute. But I'm like doing a podcast we've
talked about, like you got to leave me to do it.
She's so cute.
Speaker 4: All right. Well, then we get, you know, we get
this scene of Emily, Rachel, Ryan and Michelle really supporting
car Maria, and like, it seems very now that you've
said everything about cars, it does seem like it was
really apparent that she was going through a real tough
time and she needed the.
Speaker 3: Support, apparently because she was holding her own until that moment.
She was not backing down like post crying. When you
can tell she was crying is after Laurel did what
she did, because apparently she was doing well before.
Speaker 2: And Michelle's Michelle's red face. Apparently they went to work
out after. I'm in Laurel's room, gotcha, she said. Michelle
was like running on the treadmill, like crying.
Speaker 3: To herself, sobbing while running on a treadmill, lunatics.
Speaker 2: When she came she came out, That's why her face
was all red. While Carl was want to die her hair.
Speaker 3: And I'm so glad too because I noticed that I
was going to bring this up on the show. She
looked like a lollipop in the background. It's so funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after this whole fight, after all of the like,
I just got to a point where I realized, like
I am so I'm so over the storyline. I'm so
over this bullshit because it's the same ship every season
that the two of them are on. I cannot deal
with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 2: This is one of the reasons at the beginning of
this season I said I wasn't interested because it's just
the same shit over and over and over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it, you know. I started off with
I wasn't upset by it because it was kind of
fun to see the sea Laurel just really prove how
much of an asshole she is, and Kara play a
victim quite a bit. But after this one, it just
I'm just over it. I don't want to see it anymore.
Speaker 3: We're the rest of the rest of the season anyway, Guys,
you guys watch like a like a like this continues
on and it becomes like a like a Golden Girl's
reality show with Laurel and car Maria living in like
a retirement village and their set. Like, No, for some reason,
Tina's there? Yeah, why not?
Speaker 5: I want Tina there with Amanda because just I still
love how proud Tina was of Amanda the other when
she was yelling at people.
Speaker 4: So speaking of Tina, uh, we are onto elimination.
Speaker 5: Real quick. Also, honestly, how do you guys feel about
Kylon Kyland saying he's not ready to jump off the
Laurel train yet?
Speaker 3: Super appropriate because he's an autistic man who doesn't understand
how horrible Laurel wim.
Speaker 5: I guess I probably.
Speaker 4: He Kylan said he said before that he doesn't read
situations right and or it's not right, but he doesn't
read them the same way that everybody else does.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I also I think I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't blame him for that one because I think
this is his first season playing with the two of them.
He he's new to this whole thing. He may not
have known the backstory of what all like, whatever Laurel did,
he may not have known the backstory to what that meant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only other person that was on team Laurel
was THEO who actually didn't say anything in much of support.
He just said, like ash, she looked like she needed
a hug, so I gave her a hug.
Speaker 5: Well, I thought was funny. It made you know cough
mcguard is.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 5: Kylan actually went to Twitter shortly after it was like,
so that clip of me defending Laurels as contact that
was before the big fight. That was on a smaller fight,
and then Laurel was Laurels can Control. But then later
he did an Instagram live with Derek and Ryan where
he still defended Laurel.
Speaker 3: Anyway, what did he say now what's his what's his
defense here?
Speaker 5: Basically, just like you know, she's always done right by me,
Like you know, I see other people have issues with her.
I respect that she's always been good to me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like I said, this is the first game that they've
played together, like they I wouldn't be saying that this
the three of them have played together. I wouldn't be
surprised if it's just a combo of that whatever. I
didn't think relied too much of it.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: Cay says that she heard the Kyland was hooking up
with Laurel.
Speaker 5: No, I think I've actually heard that rumor too. Now
that came in that.
Speaker 4: All right? So yeah, speaking of Tina, Uh, we're onto
the elimination. The elimination is called getting hammered.
Speaker 3: I did that. I did that last night.
Speaker 5: Tim's doing that tonight. Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tim may have frozen.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, can you hear me?
Speaker 5: Oh there we go?
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 4: Oh no, but you got real pixelated and looked at
you froze.
Speaker 3: Am I back, now you're back.
Speaker 4: You didn't respond to saying that you were getting hammered tonight?
Speaker 3: Weird? Yeah, no, you You've been crystal clear this whole time.
So weird and weird.
Speaker 4: Weird internet in your rich neighborhood.
Speaker 3: That's making.
Speaker 4: All right. So the game get getting hammered. Each person
has two giant boards. One has one hundred nails in
it and the other has one hundred holes in it.
And the first person to remove all one hundred nails
out of the first board and rehammer them into the
second board and then go hit the buzzer wins. The
game very much an equalizer game. Anyone could have this.
Speaker 3: I'm fine, but I'm fine with that sometimes.
Speaker 4: Right, sometimes that's fine.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was much of an equalizer
game as much as we'll get into. We'll get in.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead, trip, but in comparison to like hall
brawl or something physical equalizer.
Speaker 3: Game, yeah, this could be. This is literally one of
those anybody could win in games.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying something weird happened. We're very much tilted
in favor of one specific person. Nobody knows why.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've read much of speculation on the internet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So to get into this, the ladies start. Oh
so ultimately Emily and me and Maya are voted in.
So the ladies start and it's Tina versus Emily. Tina
basically just takes her hammer, turns it sideways, and like
forcefully brushes her hands up and down on her board
and knocks all of her nails out of her board.
Emily says it sounds like machine gun fire because they're
just hitting the ground one after another.
Speaker 3: And it looks it from the from the fragments that
we see, it looks like it.
Speaker 4: It was impressive see all of them fly off. Emily
doesn't start that way. She starts pulling about one by one,
and then the guys from her team tell her that
she needs to do what Tina just did, so she tries,
and all she does is bend a bunch of the
nails down, so Emily's really struggling to get all these
things out. Well, then it goes to hammering them all
in and Tina's ahead by a landslide, and ultimately Tina
ends up winning like total upset.
Speaker 3: Yep. But you know what she did say pre thing.
She's all so I know this is not like a
pre shot thing, like she was ready to go. She
said something like, keep the hope alive. I'm feeling confident
in this one. I can do this one, and I'm
not sure we've ever seen Tina say something like so confident.
I just wonder if she did enter this with a
different mindset.
Speaker 4: Well, and this is because I mean, I wouldn't be
surprised if it was her looking at this game and
being like, I actually can play this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: This isn't like I said, this isn't a haulbrowl, this
isn't a pole wrestle. This isn't you know, some puzzle
that I'm not going to be able to figure out,
like I could do this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yes, her her nails shirt did seem to
fall out a much easier than anybody else's nails.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It made me wonder like how well they were
all actually hammered, because it looked like all of those
nails were only hammered in like maybe a quarter of
an inch like when they said when they originally said
nails hammered into a board, I expected them like to
be at least an inch, like for them to be
in there and then for them to have to again
go and hammer them in like an inch like. I
didn't think it was just like you just get them
to stand in there straight.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: I found that kind of a cop out yep.
Speaker 3: And I read online too, and like, I don't think
anybody knows for sure. I'm not again, I don't think
we're ever going to get a total answer. But this
is probably like just these production assistants, right that are
just nailing one hundred things, and they probably had four
different people nailing one hundred things in And how could
possibly four people nail it into the exact same depth
at the exact same you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, unless there were markers on all of the
on all the nails, then yeah, there's no way to
get it all to the same depth.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: It could also just like figure it out from.
Speaker 3: But even that, you gotta assume like they're pre drilling
these holes, right, so you got to make sure that
the holes are pre drilled, Like how are you going
to make it exactly uniform across four boards? It's sort
of number one and number two. There was some technique.
Tinas did seem to be going up sometimes or as
everybody else was going down exclusively, So like, who knows,
I'm not sure where ever going to know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there could have been a variety of reasons, but
it did. It did kind of look like it was
somewhat rigged in Tina's favor. It sure did not try
to take anything away from her. It's awesome that she won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I had a lot of look to it.
I don't want to steal this joke. I read this
on Reddit, but somebody said that she accidentally got CT's
board that was set up for him to win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because mena second and it is Neemyah versus CT,
and the guys try the same method that Tina tried
and they fail miserably. Both of them just bend like
ten of them all at once, so they start pulling
them out one at a time, and it's it is tied.
Speaker 3: But most of the game they're both nailing there's in right,
so that they're you know, both of them have a
blank one side. And it is funny because Neamias looks fine.
Cts is just torn to shit because you can tell
he was just like fucking bashing this thing with a hammer.
It's like got all these scars on it and everything.
Speaker 4: Yep, very very sad. Yeah, yeah, it looked a little ridiculous,
but yeah, ultimately Neami ends up winning, and I think
neam I ended up winning because Neamiah had like five
or six in his hand at a time and was
handling them in and CT kept picking them up like
one at a time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought about a strategy for this.
Speaker 2: I would have nailed one nail in and then picked
the bucket up and hung it from that one nail
so you could just grab it.
Speaker 3: Hey, I didn't notice that. And they a lot of
them start from the bottom, but top is easier, right,
because then there's nothing in the bottom. As you're swinging,
there's nothing beneath you. Yeah, there's there's some strategy here.
But yeah, ultimately poor CT.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So ultimately CT and Emily both lose two huge players
out of this game.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe this. Yes, I call this exactly wrong.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that both of them are on my team.
Speaker 5: Good, Yes, I believe they were so huge players off
of my tea are both on my team. So it
was me versus Carlin tonight for last night.
Speaker 4: Yep. Yeah, not not great. Yeah, And then we do
nominations for the next round, Brad and Rachel for Era one.
Both of them nominated themselves.
Speaker 3: Rachel, there's no rights Rachel and Tina are taking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. Sorry, Rachel taking turns Era two, Oh,
I kind of loved this. I mean, I know that
you don't like Nehemiah, but I kind of love this
Nehemiah because of the He basically says, because of all
of the chaos that's going on in the house, Laurel,
you're the nominee, and she is.
Speaker 3: But she had to know, right she doesn't look she
looks mad but not surprised here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Tina basically does the exact same thing
and says, Johnny bananas like. She also says that Ryan
and Derek are two I like, she loves them there,
two of her good friends. So Johnny, you're going in.
But I think it's also a little bit like just
wants to needle Johnny m Era three, Uh, Corey and Johnny.
So Corey steps up and nominates himself, right yeah, and
then Johnny like they me and I asked if any
of the ladies want to and it's just kind of like,
we're waiting for you, Johnny, because the other three women
have already gone and done this, like they've already been targets.
And Johnny then says, I don't think it's a smart
thing for me to nominate myself, and she earlier in
the game said that part of the reason why she's
happy that Neiamiah is down there because she doesn't think
that Niamiyah would ever say her name, and then he
says her name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the worst case, worst case for her. She
should have just volunteered. Yeah, terrible.
Speaker 4: She just looks like an ass ye.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she's she was riding high on those two
All Stars wins, but I don't think she's got much
left in her tank. I think she's kind of high
on her own supply type of person.
Speaker 4: She definitely is, like I feel like it's been said.
I know that I've said at least that Johnay was
good at the All Stars games, but the All Stars
games are not the regular game, a whole different ball game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, after she wanted to Also, I feel like this
fan perception of her change that she was like this
top tier woman, But I've always kind of felt like
she was like mid to lower level competitive.
Speaker 4: And I think she was. I think she was a
lot better than what Zach would give her credit for
when they played together or when they were dating and
all of that. Like she was a lot she her
game was a lot better than what she got portrayed
as during those seasons, but it's definitely not the top
tier game that she seems to have been portrayed as
for the last few seasons. So yeah, I think she's
a middle of the road player. Uh. And then finally
it's Era four and Neamyah just dominates Jenny doesn't even
ask dominates Jenny Jesus and uh, Tina asks if any
of the guys want to do it, and Josh steps up.
Speaker 2: And oh my god, back, Oh my god, throw this
man up parade, I know, right, Oh oh Josh, Josh,
thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, the hero we need, he's.
Speaker 5: I got you on the Gosh train.
Speaker 2: Finally, God, what a'm fucking morono.
Speaker 3: He's coming a live man.
Speaker 2: Oh that was great. I just hate someone who takes
himself so fucking seriously. Just like I'm going to do it.
Remember how I pumped out and did do it last episode.
I'm gonna do it this episode because CT well home.
Speaker 4: I'm finally safe if I can go.
Speaker 3: And what's funny is like, nominated yourself could actually be
like an extremely big benefit, Like it could be a
really good move to do this, But.
Speaker 5: This I fun. I mean, think about the fact if
you just volunteered last episode like he's supposed to, he
would have been one of the winners deciding who goes
in this weekend.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying is it's not it's not necessarily
a bad thing to be the nominee.
Speaker 4: Well, but it also does make me wonder because they
were listening to Devon Andry tell they or not deavatory.
They were listening to their nominees tell them how to
get through this thing, Like, would they have actually still won?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, who knows. We'll never know.
Speaker 2: Who knows. I do have to point out both the
CT and Emily were on my team this season.
Speaker 3: Oh bumber bumber wolfing bummer for you.
Speaker 5: Wait, they're on Carlin's team on my team?
Speaker 2: No, they were on my weekly team.
Speaker 4: Sorry, oh oh oh, well, don't take this away from me.
Speaker 2: I got it mixed up. I'm sorry, they were. They
were on my weekly team. That's what I met.
Speaker 3: So I put Emily on my weekly team because I
thought I thought she's gonna win. If she goes in,
she's gonna win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, I had Emily too.
Speaker 3: Fucked it up.
Speaker 5: I put Emily as as person to get Alemonade this week.
Speaker 3: Zach, you need the spoilers though, I'm not.
Speaker 5: The last two weeks, I've just been swinging for the moon.
I'm in like twenty something place, so I'm like, I
just need to like try to go against the grain
and like get points where other people won't.
Speaker 3: Zach, I'm you're saying that I have to adjust my
strategy to I've been thinking about that.
Speaker 2: Myself and Carlin are like one point away from each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are crushing it. I think I learned
the value last year. I'm slow playing, but now I
think I think this year, I'm I think I'm I
think I'm playing too slow. I'm saving my big people
too long.
Speaker 4: You got you gotta pepper those the big people in there.
Speaker 3: I know I'm figuring it out. Say I'm slow learning,
but I'm learning this one.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been throwing it one of the targets last week
and I was like, fuck, yeah, this is gonna be
Emily's week. This would be great.
Speaker 5: And I figured I figured, like everyone's gonna be picking
Emily this week, so I'm like, if I pick them,
I'm just gonna match with everyone else. But if I
pick her to lose and she does, everyone else is
gonna lose points on her and I will get points.
So I could catch up. But I'm still in like
twenty something place. Well it's not working. I'm still in
twenty something.
Speaker 3: I felt the same though. I felt like I've I've
I've been I've been doing a slow game. I think
I need a couple of big weeks here.
Speaker 5: I need huge weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So since we're already talking about it in the
public fantasy league, uh, first place is now Tony Time
Page w uh. Second place is Team H Heather K
and third place is I touched Johnny Banana's Johnny's Banana,
Garrett H.
Speaker 3: And then and that's not Gareth No, come on, come on,
that's one of those cutesy things that they signed up
with the fake names. You don't know, but it's too obvious,
Garrett H. Come on. Definitely, Adams gotta beare.
Speaker 2: I saw someone's name was H. R. Salad, which I thought.
Speaker 4: Was that is pretty good. So I am in sixth,
Wolf He is in seventh, Tim is in twenty second,
and Zachi Bananas is in twenty fourth.
Speaker 3: I'm coming up the coming.
Speaker 4: Online the Online Hosts League. Zach is in first, wolf
he's in second, I'm in third, and big on the
Sweet Teas and but we don't.
Speaker 3: Need to worry about that one. That's not the real one.
That's not the real that's not the real one. No,
what's the real one is?
Speaker 5: Actually?
Speaker 4: But the actual account for everybody's teams. Tim, you have
six players. I am down to five, Wolfy is down
to five, and Zach you still have your entire I do,
and that's great.
Speaker 2: I spoilers every season.
Speaker 3: I do not.
Speaker 4: But then we also have the weekly Budget League, which
I like, you guys need to get your either I've
got the right strategy for this or something, because I'm
still in first place for the Budget League. Granted, the
winner for this one just gets it. Chris high five
Virtual high five.
Speaker 3: Second place is Zach Carlin's giving yourself a virtual high five.
You can just do it yourself.
Speaker 4: Third place is c T Phone Home, Just give myself.
I touched Johnny's Banana T Mobile Sidekicks and JJ Jamie
I'll need to step their ship up and kick Zach
and I had a first and second place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, or I'm coming. I'll do it. I'll tick
you get second.
Speaker 5: How far ahead of your I mean, are you on that?
Are we close?
Speaker 4: I am ahead of you by so you're at nine
eighty one and I'm at nine ninety nine points and.
Speaker 5: Super close.
Speaker 4: You were done at eleven with five and twenty one.
Speaker 3: I'm coming up.
Speaker 4: You've got plus points.
Speaker 3: Don't workap, It's gonna be fine. All right, I'll do it.
Speaker 2: Zach, did you give your standings?
Speaker 5: I have not, so mine. Uh. In fourth place is
Wolfye with fifty seven.
Speaker 3: Points loser fucking loser.
Speaker 5: In third place is Carlin with sixty.
Speaker 3: Three loor loser.
Speaker 5: Second is Tim with sixty four.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. Everybody taked place.
Speaker 5: And after having five of the winners on my team
this week, I'm in first with ninety one points.
Speaker 4: Yes, exact team is stacked with ERA four people, which.
Speaker 5: I didn't even think about that, But in the future
that seems like a good strategy is just stack all
your players from one team because if that team wins,
you get massive points, which I don't even think about,
but it goes.
Speaker 3: If it goes poorly, You're me last season where you're
out of the game in six weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, season one is gonna dominate, dominate?
Speaker 5: Oh no tough yea. If season one to Era one
two or three wins, I get barely any points. But
if four hits, I get massive points that week.
Speaker 3: It's looking pretty good the Era ones. It seems like
we're following up by age is sort of how this
is going.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, yeah, so that's the episode.
Speaker 3: It's just like life.
Speaker 2: Yep, everybody had every challenge but dot com join the
Facebook group and join a Patreon, Tim, what do they
get all right?
Speaker 3: After shows, pre shows, years and years with of content.
I never plug it, but I should. The Discord group
is actually kind of fun. Uh, and you can like
listen to those old voicemails. But yeah, but I always
forget that I plug it, so I can still claim
that I don't ever plug it. Also, we say your name,
so thank you to Elena, Alvin, Anna, Brian, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie,
Laura Martez, Patti, Roldan, Ryan, Samuel.
Speaker 2: Sarah, Sarah, scot Seth Shack, shake.
Speaker 3: Our smiling Jack, Stan, Stephen and Steve. Thanks guys, all
but one of you.
Speaker 2: Tim Do we have any reviews?
Speaker 3: No, no ones e Zacht.
Speaker 2: Do you have any social media stuff?
Speaker 4: Got married? Yeah? She looked hot too, always she always does.
Speaker 3: Mhm, dark hair, guys, just.
Speaker 2: Say social media.
Speaker 5: And we touched a lot of them. There's obviously the
you know, the the car Maria you know video that
we touched. There was Emily being Umber Dance podcast which
we touched on. So I think we've discussed a lot
of it.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess that's it for this episode
of Challenge.
Speaker 5: That's been Brian and Pig Hunker, Sweet Tea, Carl in
San Diego, Zachi Bananas.
Speaker 2: And as Tina said, Bob and we bitch Bob and
motherfucking we've Oh that's not the button, I'm hitting.
Speaker 5: Hit the button.
Speaker 2: This is how we're going up. That's how we're going out.
I guess.
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 3: Just press the button.
Speaker 2: Soundboards all fucked up?
Speaker 3: Are we out yet?
Speaker 4: Are recording recording?
Speaker 3: God damn it, we'll be. I could hit the button,
would you please?
Speaker 2: I hit stop, I hit stop. It's still going