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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>and finish off the letter that was sent by Congress

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<v Speaker 1>to Leon Black, Part five non disclosure agreements or within

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<v Speaker 1>the scope of investigation. Your letter argues that Majority Staff

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<v Speaker 1>never indicated to mister Black Council that confidential and legally

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<v Speaker 1>binding agreements would be a subject covered in the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>To reiterate, the Committee did not agree to any limitations

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<v Speaker 1>on scope for the interview and had previously inquired of

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<v Speaker 1>several witnesses in this investigation about confidential and legally binding agreements.

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<v Speaker 1>The Committee asked questions about what it deemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>relevant to its investigation, which included questions about non disclosure

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<v Speaker 1>agreements signed by your client with women the Committee as

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<v Speaker 1>reason to believe to be connected to mister Epstein, as

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<v Speaker 1>was done with other voluntary witnesses in this investigation whose

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<v Speaker 1>interview transferred are publicly available. Similarly, your assertion that Majority

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<v Speaker 1>Staff then began asking questions that fell outside what mister

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<v Speaker 1>Black's council understood to be a reasonable interpretation of the

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<v Speaker 1>committee stated legislative purpose is misguided. It's the committee that

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<v Speaker 1>determines the scope of its inquiry, not the witness. Moreover,

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee asked appropriate questions about the number of non

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<v Speaker 1>disclosure agreements to which your client was a party, whether

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<v Speaker 1>there were other parties to the agreements, whether mister Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in any such agreement, and whether your client

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<v Speaker 1>knew about other individuals that possessed similar agreements that related

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<v Speaker 1>to mister Abstein. The reason for the committee's questions on

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<v Speaker 1>this topic are twofold. First, mister Abstein and his associates

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<v Speaker 1>used a variety of tools to control his victims and

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<v Speaker 1>other individuals in his orbit. The Committee is aware that

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<v Speaker 1>mister Abstein used non disclosure agreements to silence his associates,

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<v Speaker 1>some of whom have since come forward as victims and

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<v Speaker 1>survivors of his abuse. To conduct a complete and thorough investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee will pursue all relevant avenues of inquiry. The

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<v Speaker 1>Committee is also aware of the existence of at least

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<v Speaker 1>one non disclosure agreement between your client and a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was connected to mister Epstein. The pursuit of this

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<v Speaker 1>investigative pathway and relevant facts surrounding it is necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>determine the nature and extent to which mister Epstein and

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<v Speaker 1>his associates use these confidential agreements, which in turn will

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<v Speaker 1>help determine whether legislation is necessary, and, if so, had

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<v Speaker 1>a craft such legislation to prevent such activity from reoccurring. Second,

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee's questions related to non disclosure agreements more broadly,

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<v Speaker 1>are pertinent to the committee's investigative purpose because of concerns

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<v Speaker 1>regarding potential victim association with these agreements. In a previous

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<v Speaker 1>transcribed interview before this Committee, a witness was hesitant to

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<v Speaker 1>answer questions about the identity of an individual with whom

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<v Speaker 1>the witness was associated. Upon disclosure of this individual's identity,

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<v Speaker 1>the committee immediately became aware of an existing connection between

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<v Speaker 1>the individual and mister Epstein, of which the witness was

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<v Speaker 1>not personally aware. Your client claims not to be aware

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<v Speaker 1>of any further connections between mister Epstein and other parties

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<v Speaker 1>to his agreements, but the Committee must inquire about details

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<v Speaker 1>of such agreements to conduct a complete and thorough investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the committee's prerogative to take a witness's personal

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<v Speaker 1>belief or assertion as an absolute, proven fact that is

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<v Speaker 1>merely stipulated or left otherwise unexplored. The Committee must gather

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<v Speaker 1>relevant information to draw evidence supported conclusions to support its

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<v Speaker 1>legislative prerogatives. Ultimately, it's the Committee, not you and your client,

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<v Speaker 1>that will determine the value and relevance of information your

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<v Speaker 1>client has regarding the Committee's investigation into the actions of

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<v Speaker 1>mister Epstein, Maxwell, and their associates. You also take issue

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<v Speaker 1>with the Committee' specific request for all non disclosure agreements

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<v Speaker 1>to which Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell are referenced. You

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<v Speaker 1>argue that these requests call for information beyond the scope

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<v Speaker 1>of the committee's investigation. The Committee disagrees if either mister

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein or miss Maxwell was associated with a party in

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<v Speaker 1>a non disclosure agreement to which your client, mister Black,

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<v Speaker 1>is a party, these documents would be directly relevant to

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee's investigation into mister Epstein and miss Maxwell. Furthermore,

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<v Speaker 1>non disclosure agreements with individuals who may have had a

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<v Speaker 1>connection with mister Epstein or miss Maxwell, regardless of your

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<v Speaker 1>client's knowledge of their connection, are relevant to the Committee's investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>That stated above, your client's records may highlight a new

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<v Speaker 1>individual of value to the Committee's inquiry or provide evidence

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for the Committee's consideration of policy or other legislative changes.

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<v Speaker 1>In defense of your production of a singular non disclosure agreement,

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<v Speaker 1>you argue that no extent any more such confidentiality agreement exists.

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<v Speaker 1>They would have been negotiated while after Epstein's death. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that mister Black may have entered into other

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<v Speaker 1>confidentiality agreements after Epstein's death is not determinative of their

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<v Speaker 1>relevance or lack thereof to the Committee's investigation. Agreement signed

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<v Speaker 1>after mister Epstein's death could still involve as victims and

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<v Speaker 1>her relate to conduct in which mister Epstein was engaged. Further,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Black's argument is inapplicable to the involvement of Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>in any agreement, as she is alive and subject of

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<v Speaker 1>this investigation. The subject of subpoena does not have the

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<v Speaker 1>right to decide what documents are responsive to or within

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<v Speaker 1>the scope of any any subpoena duly issued by Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>or their relevance to a valid legislative purpose. For these reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>the remaining documents are crucial to the investigation, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Committee must decide the investigative value of such documents during

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<v Speaker 1>the committee's investigation. Finally, while the Committee acknowledges your concerns

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<v Speaker 1>about the private nature of the contracts, congress legislative prerogatives,

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<v Speaker 1>and need for information the legislate or not limited to

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<v Speaker 1>the confidential terms of a private non disclosure agreement. Your

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<v Speaker 1>co council, Miss Estrich agrees with this sentiment, as she

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<v Speaker 1>emphasized that mister Black had not received a subpoena, but

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<v Speaker 1>that if he had, mister Black and Council would have

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<v Speaker 1>treated this situation differently. During the transcribed interview, your client

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<v Speaker 1>refused to answer nearly a dozen questions on the topic

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<v Speaker 1>of non disclosure agreements, which led to the issuance of

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<v Speaker 1>two subpoenas, one for your client's appearance at a deposition

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<v Speaker 1>on the since scheduled date of September three, and the

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<v Speaker 1>other that requires your client to produce the following documents.

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<v Speaker 1>One all non disclosure agreements to which Leon Black is party.

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<v Speaker 1>Two all non disclosure agreements to which Jeffrey Epstein or

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Maxwell is a party. Three all non disclosure agreements

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<v Speaker 1>to which Jeffrey Epstein or Glenn Maxwell are referenced or

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<v Speaker 1>were involved in the preparation, execution, or enforcement thereof. The

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<v Speaker 1>Committee engaged in another call with you on August eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>to further discuss the document and deposition sub poenis. On

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<v Speaker 1>this call, you indicated that it's mister Black's intention to

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<v Speaker 1>find common ground on a path forward. The Committee completely

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<v Speaker 1>agrees to the extent that other NDAs or confidentiality agreements exist.

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<v Speaker 1>The Committee again reiterated the requirement to provide context and

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<v Speaker 1>clarification and for you to seek rational accommodations were appropriate. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 1>the August eleventh meeting, you reiterated a point addressed in

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<v Speaker 1>your July twenty fourth letter that to the extent that

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<v Speaker 1>any more confidentiality agreements exist, they would have been negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>well after Epstein's death. In fact, you stated that any

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<v Speaker 1>hypothetical counterparty was abundantly clear that mister Black should not

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<v Speaker 1>produce those agreements to the Committee because they do not

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<v Speaker 1>wish to be part of the small sliver of the

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<v Speaker 1>role mister Black played in Jeffrey Epstein's life, dealings and crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Black is the subject of the subpoena, and no

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<v Speaker 1>other party dictates what he produces to the Committee. To

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<v Speaker 1>yet again reiterate, the Committee requires such information to decide

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<v Speaker 1>if any of these additional parties were connected to Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 1>are connected to Glenn Maxwell, or are connected to others

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<v Speaker 1>of their associates. Thus, its likely additional responsive documents are

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<v Speaker 1>in the custody of your client, mister Black. You and

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<v Speaker 1>your client, mister Black, do not possess the right to

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<v Speaker 1>unilaterally determine which agreements will produce a response to this

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<v Speaker 1>Committee subpoena for all non disclosure agreements. The production of

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<v Speaker 1>a singular non disclosure agreement after the Committee agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>extend the deadline in good faith by two weeks is

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<v Speaker 1>insufficient to fulfill the requirements of the subpoena. Considering your

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<v Speaker 1>letter fails to articulate that there are no further non

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<v Speaker 1>disclosure agreements and seems to imply additional non disclosure agreements exist,

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee demands full compliance with the subpoena and rejects

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<v Speaker 1>any attempt at further disrupting or delaying this investigation. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if your client seeks reasonable accommodations or has scoping requests,

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee, as has always been the case, is prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to review such requests. This is a common practice in

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<v Speaker 1>congressional negotiations. But to this point, no requests have been made.

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<v Speaker 1>During the August eleventh meeting, the Committee asked again for

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<v Speaker 1>you to confirm mister Black's appearance for his deposition on

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<v Speaker 1>September third, twenty twenty six, a date the Committee offered

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<v Speaker 1>as an accommodation to mister Black's schedule and his need

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<v Speaker 1>to prepare with counsel. The Committee reiterated that mister Black

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<v Speaker 1>was required to sit for his filmed transcribed deposition in

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<v Speaker 1>DC on September three, and you indicated that he could

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<v Speaker 1>appear on that date. Additionally, Committee Council offered to accommodate

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<v Speaker 1>mister Black to allow him to provide a privileged log

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<v Speaker 1>of NDAs to which he is a party, in order

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<v Speaker 1>to facilitate the production of response of NDAs relevant to

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee's investigation. During the August eighteenth meeting, Co Council

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<v Speaker 1>for mister Black stated that he would not agree to

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<v Speaker 1>provide a privileged log. Additionally, Co Council stated that mister

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<v Speaker 1>Black would be willing to provide one additional NDA, the

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<v Speaker 1>existence of which is publicly known due to litigation, in

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<v Speaker 1>exchange for an agreement that the Committee one agree not

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Mister Black in contempt related to either subpoena. Two,

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<v Speaker 1>change the deposition subpoena to a voluntary transcribed interview. Three

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<v Speaker 1>limit the scope of the transcribed interview regarding confidentiality agreements

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<v Speaker 1>to only the two NDAs mister Black was willing to provide.

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<v Speaker 1>Four delay the transcribed interview until late September or early October,

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<v Speaker 1>and five not video record the transcribed interview. This offer

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<v Speaker 1>is unreasonable and if accepted, would result in responsive documents

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<v Speaker 1>not being provided to the Committee and limits being placed

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<v Speaker 1>on the Committee's ability to ask questions directly relevant to

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee's investigation. The Committee's been clear it would be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to work with mister Black should he seek reasonable accommodations.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, the Committee is willing to limit the scope

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<v Speaker 1>of its subpoena for NDAs to the date on which

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<v Speaker 1>mister Black met Jeffrey Epstein to present. Additionally, the Committee

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<v Speaker 1>is willing to review in camera a privilege log listing

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<v Speaker 1>the parties to NDAs he is involved with to identify

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<v Speaker 1>those relevant to the Committee's investigation. At no point as

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<v Speaker 1>mister Black sought a reasonable accommodation from the Committee, but

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<v Speaker 1>rather he has consistently sought to dictate the Committee's scope

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<v Speaker 1>of its investigation. Mister Black's continued refusal to comply with

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee's legitimate subpoenas is unacceptable. If mister Black refuses

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<v Speaker 1>to provide the Committee with responsive documents or refuses to

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<v Speaker 1>appear for the scheduled deposition on September third, twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>the Committee will use all tools at its disposal, including contempt.

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<v Speaker 1>The Committee on House Oversight Government Reform is the principal

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<v Speaker 1>oversight committee of the US House Representatives and has brought

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<v Speaker 1>authority to investigate any matter at any time on your

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<v Speaker 1>House Rule ten. If you have any questions, please contact

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<v Speaker 1>Committee on Oversight Government Reform. This document was signed by

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<v Speaker 1>James Comer. All the information that goes with this episode

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