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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I

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<v Speaker 1>am six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>And now Handle on the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, here's not Bill Handle, anybody, friends.

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<v Speaker 2>The long National Nightmare is nearly over. Neil Savedra returns

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<v Speaker 2>next week to take over hosting duties and then I

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<v Speaker 2>ski daddle Chris Merrill in for Bill one last time

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<v Speaker 2>this morning. It is as always an honor. I just

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely adore this this crew. I mean, you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic producer and is amazing. Kno is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best at his job. And who doesn't love hearing Amy

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<v Speaker 2>King's voice every morning when they wake up? Just just

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<v Speaker 2>a wild brane to be a part of this.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna miss Okay, you can come back.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very thank you. That's all I was looking for. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>just wanted to return, invite. That's it. So, guys, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much for letting me play here this last week

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<v Speaker 2>and a half or whatever. It's been a blast. But

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<v Speaker 2>I am ready for a vacation myself, so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take that and indulge just a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>in some free time, which I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 2>but free time for me. Means I've got a whole

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<v Speaker 2>list of chores I have to catch up on. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be a lot of yard work, little home repair,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff this next week. Whatever's on the

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<v Speaker 2>honeydew list, this is my chance to knock it out.

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<v Speaker 2>So good stuff. Somebody who's probably looking for a vacation

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<v Speaker 2>right about now is Pete Hegsiff, but he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to get one. That is the Secretary of Defense. A

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<v Speaker 2>federal judge is now ordering that White House officials that

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<v Speaker 2>were involved in that signal app group chat on the

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<v Speaker 2>military strikes and Yemen, they're supposed to preserve their messages. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The US District Court Judge James Boseburg, seems like we've

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<v Speaker 2>heard that name before, has now ordered members of President

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's National security team to hang out to those messages.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna want to see those.

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<v Speaker 4>Get a signed to this to this again. Is it

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a random pick of judges?

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<v Speaker 2>It is, Yeah, which I think kind of goes to

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<v Speaker 2>show just how many cases are flying through the district

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<v Speaker 2>courts in DC right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So you think it was a random.

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<v Speaker 2>Choice, I do, Yeah, I do that he just.

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<v Speaker 3>Happened to get two Trump cases back to back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and here, let me make this point in the

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<v Speaker 2>same way that Aileen Cannon ended up on two Trump

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<v Speaker 2>cases back to back in Florida, that district court judge,

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<v Speaker 2>right that, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't think that was random.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love this. Oh, go on with your conspiracies.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl, Friday Morning conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So during the during the Biden administration, Trump

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<v Speaker 2>got the judge of choice, but during the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 2>he's not getting of the judges.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fixed on both sides, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to be always fixed against whoever's in the

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<v Speaker 2>White House. How does that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's fixed. I'm just joging, I'm just king.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, anyway, there was a lawsuit that was filed

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<v Speaker 2>by American Oversight. They alleged the officials use of the

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<v Speaker 2>signal app violated federal records laws. A little bit later

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<v Speaker 2>on today, in fact, I think we may even have

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<v Speaker 2>some of this in the handle on the news and

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<v Speaker 2>that is that you know Mayor Bass's text messages during

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<v Speaker 2>the LA fires. She was like, Oh, my phone just

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<v Speaker 2>deleted those. How does that happen? This technology? This is

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<v Speaker 2>so wild. How was I even supposed to figure this out?

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<v Speaker 2>And she's been told no, no, you got to hang

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<v Speaker 2>onto those things for a couple of years. You can't go,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't go deleting them. And then lo and behold,

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<v Speaker 2>we're able to recover her messages. The signal app does

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<v Speaker 2>delete messages after a certain period of time, and so

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<v Speaker 2>what the judge is saying is, Nope, if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to do screenshots or whatever you have to do, you

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<v Speaker 2>preserve those messages. Well, fortunately for the Department of Defense,

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<v Speaker 2>the National Security Advisors, for everybody else that's involved, the

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<v Speaker 2>Vice pro is it, the Secretary of State, the Atlantic

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<v Speaker 2>has gone ahead and screenshot at all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So it shouldn't be too tough to preserve those messages

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<v Speaker 2>because well they gave journalists and access to it. Well

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<v Speaker 2>you got that going forward.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to know that again that the guy Goldberg

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<v Speaker 4>who got him. Of course he's going to make a

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<v Speaker 4>copy of them to preserve for eternity immediately in case

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<v Speaker 4>something happens.

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<v Speaker 2>So I happened to see in some of the trades

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<v Speaker 2>there was reaction. As you know, talk radio is about

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five percent right wing talk, and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>questions was, what would happen if you were added to

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<v Speaker 2>that text, and some of them said, well, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to think that I would notify everybody in the chat

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<v Speaker 2>that I shouldn't be there. But Amy, if that were

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<v Speaker 2>you from a journalist stamp, because you're the closest thing

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<v Speaker 2>to a journalist we have from a journalist standpoint, Lord

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<v Speaker 2>knows it ain't me, would you notify, hey, everybody, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to be in here, Or as a journalist,

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<v Speaker 2>would you start screenshotting and start saving things for posterity,

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<v Speaker 2>for for potential legal challenges, for anything, to cover your

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<v Speaker 2>own butt.

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<v Speaker 4>It's interesting that you ask, because we were just talking

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<v Speaker 4>about this last night and we were talking about how

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<v Speaker 4>as journalists and when you have relationships with different people,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, sometimes you get information that you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to share and they say, well, we'll tell you, but

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<v Speaker 4>you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't let this out.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I the record or embarga off the.

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<v Speaker 4>Record, embargoed whatever, and I have. I've had some really

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<v Speaker 4>great secrets. So that's why when people say can you

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<v Speaker 4>keep a secret, I'm like, yeah, I have a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know, though, how you necessarily handle that

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<v Speaker 4>if you get invited in I would again I would

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<v Speaker 4>like to think that I would reach out to whoever

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<v Speaker 4>started and go, hey, guys, I don't I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm supposed to be in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Not me.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd keep it, Oh, I would keep it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, this is going to be the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>story ever. I am on the verge of disclosing the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest screw up in decades. This is wonderful. But to

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<v Speaker 2>his credit, this this Jeffrey Goldberg from the Atlantic, he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't out them while operations were going on. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>if he had said, if he had published something while

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<v Speaker 2>the attacks were being planned, that would have that would

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<v Speaker 2>have put troops in danger, wouldn't it. That would have

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<v Speaker 2>put pilots.

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<v Speaker 3>In So there was some restraint there. That was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's uh.

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<v Speaker 3>That would have been then a threat to national security.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know my prediction about somebody is going to

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<v Speaker 2>lose their job over this, and I said, oh, somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>know what. The next day, Trump came out and said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's great, we all learned our lessons. And I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I might not. I'm kind of edging up back toward

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<v Speaker 2>the somebody might lose their job on this who I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. There's a lot of behind the scenes, is

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm hearing about. Hegsith right now that he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>screwed a few things up, But I still think I

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<v Speaker 2>still think Mike Wilt that National Security advisor.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he's the one who started the chat or his office.

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<v Speaker 2>Invited him that. I mean, he's the one that screwed

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<v Speaker 2>things up. I had this. It's funny you were I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who you were talking to last night as

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<v Speaker 2>you were debating the the the media ethics of the

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<v Speaker 2>whole situation, I was debating the reality TV of the

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<v Speaker 2>whole situation. If this were the apprentice, who would Trump fire?

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<v Speaker 2>If they all had to gather in that boardroom and

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<v Speaker 2>somebody had to be dismissed, who would Trump fire? Would

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<v Speaker 2>he get rid of Hegsith for, you know, disclosing the

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<v Speaker 2>information using his personal cell phone, which is something of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it was railed against when it came to Hillary Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>Would he would he bag Hegxith? Or would he say

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<v Speaker 2>But this ultimately comes down to you, Waltz. You're the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that started this whole thing. If it hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>for you, then nobody else would have been would have

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<v Speaker 2>been wrapped up in this, and for that reason, you're fired.

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<v Speaker 2>Who would he have fired on his show? That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I was debating in my head. And then then I

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<v Speaker 2>had a drink and I watched White Lotus, So that

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<v Speaker 2>was my night. Yep, all right to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, ap is Oh wait, nope, I'm going back. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>This this one was felt all the way into China.

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<v Speaker 4>A big old earthquake hit in me and mar happened

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<v Speaker 4>around midday local time. It collapsed buildings hundreds of miles

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<v Speaker 4>away in Thailand.

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<v Speaker 3>Away in Thailand.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>They are saying that rural villages.

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<v Speaker 4>Are super affected everywhere from you know, like just small

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<v Speaker 4>towns to glitzy high rises. And there's video of it

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<v Speaker 4>and it says when the shaking started, you could see

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<v Speaker 4>the building swaying. Traffic came to a stop, and they

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<v Speaker 4>said it was felt as far away as China.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, A seven seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven seven, that's that's what with the Northwich north Ridge

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<v Speaker 4>was seven two seven one.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't here in that, Yeah, yeah, I mean wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and so far they really felt this so far away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. They're saying that they have confirmed three people have

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<v Speaker 4>been killed, nineties are missing, and they're saying that there's

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<v Speaker 4>from the building collapses, there's people trapped in debris and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, oh yeah. When you hear those initial reports

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<v Speaker 2>and they say three people are lost, and you go,

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<v Speaker 2>well that number is gonna grow. Oh man, that is horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh do you know I worked for the guy

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<v Speaker 2>in San Diego and he used to swear he could

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<v Speaker 2>feel everything. There'd be there would be a tremor in

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<v Speaker 2>Indio and he'd come into working on I felt it.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that one. So you know, there's somebody that's

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<v Speaker 2>uh it's in Tokyo. That was like I think I

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<v Speaker 2>felt that too, you know, I think I felt it.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody is saying that that is wild seven to seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And then, like you said, Myanmar and into Bangkok too, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they were feeling it and they had damn it was

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<v Speaker 2>it damage in Bangkok as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, wow, yeah, and it's this is all. It happened

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<v Speaker 4>midday local time, so we're still we're getting information and

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<v Speaker 4>it started as always, it's a little slow to come

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<v Speaker 2>Well, remember too, you've got to you've got a very

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<v Speaker 2>you have pockets there as you mentioned you've got some

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<v Speaker 2>glitzy high rises, but you've got pockets of some very

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<v Speaker 2>poor villages and so people that have been devastated by

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<v Speaker 2>some of the bloody battles that have gone on. The

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<v Speaker 2>economy is trash and they are literally just trying to survive,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they get hit with this earthquake, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>God hates them, I guess is the only the only

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<v Speaker 2>conclusion we can come up with President Donald Trump saying

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<v Speaker 2>the United States is gonna go as far as we

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<v Speaker 2>lead excuse me, the delegation to visit the military base

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<v Speaker 2>in oh Is that a swear word pit to fit?

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<v Speaker 2>a curse word in English. Anyway, they are scaling back

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<v Speaker 2>their plants for the broader and longer visit, mostly because

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<v Speaker 2>Greenland said, we don't want you here. They were going

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<v Speaker 2>also take in a dog sled race, because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you do in Greenland. Trump showing no indication of softening

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<v Speaker 2>Greenland for national security and international security. This flies in

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<v Speaker 2>the face of the non interventionalist, more isolationist pitch that

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<v Speaker 2>we got during the campaign. We're going to not be

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<v Speaker 2>involved in other people's wars. We are not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be sending our military abroad. But instead we're saying we

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<v Speaker 2>have to go, are we dispatching our own military to

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<v Speaker 2>Greenland beyond, of course the military that's already stationed there.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump says, I view it from a security standpoint, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to be there. Well, we are there, we do

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<v Speaker 2>have a base there. But do we need to take

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<v Speaker 2>their rare earth minerals. That's the question that we're all

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<v Speaker 2>facing right now. That's the question that the administration is considering,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the question that we want answered as observers

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<v Speaker 2>of how our politicians behave Amy King.

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<v Speaker 4>AP says it's locked out. A veteran AP photographer and

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<v Speaker 4>White House correspondent testified yesterday that AP has struggled to

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<v Speaker 4>White House's decision to limit its access to presidential events,

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<v Speaker 4>the Oval Office and Air Force One. She said they're

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<v Speaker 4>really struggling to keep up with its competitors, particularly during

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<v Speaker 4>major news events that have happened during the opening weeks

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's the endgame on this one? Is it to

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<v Speaker 2>bolster media that is friendly to the president. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's on the surfaces what people say AP was mean

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<v Speaker 2>to him. AP won't call it the Gulf of America.

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<v Speaker 2>So AP is going to pay the price. And AP

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<v Speaker 2>is saying we can't keep up with our competitors. On

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<v Speaker 2>the other hand, if you were some of the competitors,

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<v Speaker 2>you may have been saying, we can't possibly get a

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<v Speaker 2>foot in the door because AP is taking all of

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<v Speaker 2>the They're taking up all the seats, right, always the reporters, right,

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<v Speaker 2>others that have said, well, that's that's an unfair disadvantage

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<v Speaker 2>to us, because AP is all granted this seat. And

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<v Speaker 2>now the AP is saying, well, this is unfair to

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<v Speaker 2>us because we can't have the access that we've always had.

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<v Speaker 2>So we may just be seeing a shift in the

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<v Speaker 2>This might be the new world news order that we're witnessing.

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<v Speaker 2>The difference, though, is that the AP is an aggregate

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<v Speaker 2>news organization. It is not isolated too. It's not CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not News Nation, it's not Fox, it's not One

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<v Speaker 2>America or whatever else.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>A conglomerate of journalists who then distribute out to all

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<v Speaker 2>the other agencies. So CNN, Fox, News Nation, all these

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<v Speaker 2>others can still pull AP coverage provided they pay the

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<v Speaker 2>AP dues, which are not cheap. Incidentally, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>fight I used to have as a manager at a

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<v Speaker 2>really need the AP? And I said, well, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a news department, so yeah, we do need the AP.

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<v Speaker 2>If we want to have any news product on our

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<v Speaker 2>But and now AP doesn't have access to the White House,

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<v Speaker 2>so how much value do they have to these places

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<v Speaker 2>that are paying those high fees to get their products.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever since news broke about the Trump officials discussing US

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<v Speaker 2>military attack plans in a group chat that inadvertently included

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<v Speaker 2>a journalist, Defense Secretary Pete Hexith, projecting unflinching confidence, he

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<v Speaker 2>said on Tuesday, I know exactly what I'm doing, do you? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Because other Defense officials later in the week were increasingly skeptical,

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<v Speaker 2>especially after The Atlantic magazine then printed some of the

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<v Speaker 2>signal chat about the pending strike on the Hooti rebels

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<v Speaker 2>and Yemen. According to one Defense official talking with CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>it's safe to say that anybody in uniform would be

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<v Speaker 2>court martialed for this. My most junior analysts know not

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. So some say Hexith looks particularly bad

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<v Speaker 2>given the level of detail that he shared in the chat.

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<v Speaker 2>So Hesith didn't realize that the chat was being shared

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<v Speaker 2>with the journalist, and he was just spilling all the tea.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, hey, we're leaving at this time, the bombs

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<v Speaker 2>will drop here at this time. It was very specific

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<v Speaker 2>and he was discussing it in detail, even though he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the guy that invited the journalist in there are

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<v Speaker 2>questions about his ability to do the job, mostly because

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<v Speaker 2>he was just given all the details in this signal app.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta believe, and he was using his phone too.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta believe. We've already seen the Chinese hacking into,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least attempting to hack into the private phones

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<v Speaker 2>of different elected officials. I gotta believe they are doubling

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<v Speaker 2>down on that effort. And I also have to believe

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<v Speaker 2>that Russia, who was sharing information with some of these

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<v Speaker 2>other groups, is happy to be able to try to

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<v Speaker 2>hack into somebody else's phone to watch what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And all it takes is just to congratulations, you've won

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<v Speaker 2>a new car click here, and then somebody clicks on

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<v Speaker 2>it and go, that's weird. I didn't even know I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking for a new car, and then they click

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<v Speaker 2>on it and suddenly they've opened their phone up to

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<v Speaker 2>Russian hackers. So a lot of concerns about this, the

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<v Speaker 2>same concerns that people had about Hillary Clinton using her

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<v Speaker 2>BlackBerry back in the day. What I find to be

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<v Speaker 2>the most interesting on this signal chat breach is the

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<v Speaker 2>hypocrisy that is raining down from both sides. We have

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<v Speaker 2>people on the left that when Hillary Clinton had her BlackBerry,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, lots of officials use their phones. Colin Powell

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<v Speaker 2>us his phone, Hillary Clinton use. They're very safe phones

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<v Speaker 2>with there's nothing to worry about. I know you've got

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<v Speaker 2>that photo of Hillary Clinton on Air Force one using

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<v Speaker 2>her BlackBerry, but that's totally fine. You guys are blowing

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<v Speaker 2>this way out of proportion. And the Republicans at the

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<v Speaker 2>time said Hillary Clinton has jeopardized the lives of American soldiers.

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary clinton wanton disregard for security measures is putting American

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<v Speaker 2>lives of our heroes at risk. And Hillary Clinton should

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<v Speaker 2>be court martialed and hanged in the public square. Lock

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<v Speaker 2>her up, lock her up, lock her up. And now

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<v Speaker 2>it's completely flipped. So now you've got Democrats that want

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<v Speaker 2>to for although I haven't heard anybody saying that people

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<v Speaker 2>need to be criminally charged. There was a question that

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<v Speaker 2>was posed by media to Pam Bondi, the Attorney generalist,

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<v Speaker 2>said will there be a criminal investigation and she said nah,

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<v Speaker 2>So evidently we're not going to lock him up at all.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be none of that. But will there be

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<v Speaker 2>political fallout? Will hegsif lose his job? Will this National

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<v Speaker 2>Security advisor that invited the journalist onto the signal app

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<v Speaker 2>chat Mike Waltz lose his job. That remains to be seen,

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<v Speaker 2>but safe to say the confidence in the competency of

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<v Speaker 2>some of these officials is coming into question. Amy King

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Elise is in limbo.

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<v Speaker 4>The White House has pulled Representative Elas Stephonics nomination to

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<v Speaker 4>become the next US ambassador to the United Nations. President

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<v Speaker 4>Trump said he was going to withdraw the nomination because

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<v Speaker 4>they've got such a narrow majority in the House he

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<v Speaker 4>he can push forward his agenda and get his stuff passed.

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<v Speaker 4>He also said he didn't want to take a chance

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<v Speaker 4>on Stephanic's open seat in northern New York, that it

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<v Speaker 4>might go to the Democrats. It is heavily favored for

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<v Speaker 4>the Republicans now. Stephanic, since she was named as the

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<v Speaker 4>UN ambassador or the nominee to be, had to give

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<v Speaker 4>up her leadership post, so she's sort of in limbo

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<v Speaker 4>right now. She's still a congresswoman, but lost her power.

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<v Speaker 2>Position, but she still got the job.

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<v Speaker 3>She doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Both Trump and Johnson say they're going to find something

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<v Speaker 4>for her because she was like three in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, She's gonna be fine. One

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<v Speaker 2>of the things about this administration is that they tend

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<v Speaker 2>to say the quiet part out loud. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at least there's a certain and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny to say from a president who will still argue

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<v Speaker 2>about crowd sizes. It is. It is funny to hear

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<v Speaker 2>just how blatantly honest they are about some of their tactics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not you know, at least Stephonic is just she's

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<v Speaker 2>too important to the operations in the House and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've got some other people with the un

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<v Speaker 2>and we're so thankful that she was willing to put

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<v Speaker 2>things aside for the good of her country. Instead they

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<v Speaker 2>go at least Stephonic, we need her vote. So basically,

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<v Speaker 2>she's gonna lose this better job because we really need

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<v Speaker 2>her vote and we don't want to take the chance

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<v Speaker 2>of losing all the crap we're trying to put through

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<v Speaker 2>the House. So I'm gonna find somebody else to do

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<v Speaker 2>the job, probably a relative. But Stephanic is going to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the house and just be a house mom.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your thing. She can be a house mom from

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<v Speaker 2>here on out. And I so appreciate the honesty.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, when you do your Donald Trump, you

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<v Speaker 2>See. I just think it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of those brutally bad impersonations, so terrible. Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>of State Marco Rubio says at least three hundred foreign

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<v Speaker 2>students I've had their visas revoked amid the Trump administration's

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<v Speaker 2>immigration crackdown. He said maybe more. He might be more

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<v Speaker 2>than three hundred at this point. So he says, we

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<v Speaker 2>do it every day. Every time I find one of

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<v Speaker 2>these lunatics, I take away their visa, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>at some point we run out because we have gotten

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<v Speaker 2>rid of all of them. But we're looking every day

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<v Speaker 2>for these lunatics that are tearing things up. The administration

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<v Speaker 2>officials are looking to block some colleges that have too

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<v Speaker 2>many quote unquote pro Hamas foreign students from admitting any

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<v Speaker 2>international individuals. So high profile cases come out of Columbia,

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<v Speaker 2>Tufts and the University of Alabama. Trump Administration's cracked down

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<v Speaker 2>on the pro Palestinian foreign students, escalating let's juxtapose this

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<v Speaker 2>to another story that we had. I can't remember amy

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<v Speaker 2>if it was yesterday or the day before, but there

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<v Speaker 2>were Palestinian protests in Gaza against Hamas. Right, So you

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<v Speaker 2>had Palestinians that were protesting Hamas. That sort of flies

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<v Speaker 2>in the face of the narrative that we've heard that

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<v Speaker 2>if you are Palestinian in Gaza, you are Hamas. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we've said all Palestinians are Hamas.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I haven't. But the narrative that we've heard

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<v Speaker 2>from others is that that the Palestinians are Hamas. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've had this argument. I go, are you telling me

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<v Speaker 2>that the women and children who are dying in Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>are supporters of Hamas? And I hear, well, they voted

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<v Speaker 2>a man and they don't. They've never gotten rid of Hamas.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, well, it's because they voted a man

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<v Speaker 2>and then Hamas turned into a terrorist organization and they

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<v Speaker 2>took over and didn't allow for democratic voting any longer. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't have done that, That's what I hear. These

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<v Speaker 2>are not well educated people I talk to a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I really need to change my circle of friends, come

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<v Speaker 2>to think of it, But it does fly in the

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<v Speaker 2>face of that narrative that you do, in fact, have

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<v Speaker 2>people in Gaza who are Palestinian that are saying, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't want this war and terror crap. So can you?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the argument that we're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to these universities. Can you have someone

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<v Speaker 2>that is pro Palestinian that doesn't like seeing the fighting

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<v Speaker 2>continuing in Gaza that is not pro Hamas as the

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<v Speaker 2>administration is pointing it out? In other words, are all

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<v Speaker 2>of the protesters at the universities that we saw last year,

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<v Speaker 2>are they all quote unquote pro Hamas? I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>that they are. I do believe a lot of those

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<v Speaker 2>protests did get out of hand, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that they should have gotten out of hand, and that

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<v Speaker 2>disgusted me as well. But it's a whole lot different

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<v Speaker 2>than saying somebody is pro terrorist when they are just

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<v Speaker 2>bad at protesting.

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<v Speaker 3>To you, speaking of bad, they got a really bad one.

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<v Speaker 4>The alleged leader of an MS thirteen street gang on

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<v Speaker 4>the East Coast has been arrested in Virginia. Twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>year old is from l Salvador, described as one of

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<v Speaker 4>MS's thirteen's top leaders in the US and he's just twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Four and it's part of the called ambitious I guess

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<v Speaker 3>they were.

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<v Speaker 4>They're talking about it that saying he was recruited as

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<v Speaker 4>like when he was in eighth grade or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, but that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 4>They rated wherever he was living and have taken him

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<v Speaker 4>into custody.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, is he a foreign national Salvador from L Salvador? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah here illegally Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>So does he I honestly don't know the answer to

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<v Speaker 2>this question. Does he have to do time. Let's say

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<v Speaker 2>he's found guilty of the MS thirteeniness of it all?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he do time in the United States and then

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<v Speaker 2>get deported or do we just deport him to that L.

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<v Speaker 2>Salvador in prison where we're sending the trace Deagua's trendy

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<v Speaker 2>trent trede.

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<v Speaker 4>Diagua trenday Aragua. Yeah, I can't be TDA, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>everybody's calling it.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go the CBA. Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, because like Shoeo Tani's interpreter, different kind of crime, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But he was sentenced to almost five years. He's expected

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<v Speaker 4>to serve out his sentence here and then they're saying

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<v Speaker 4>they expect to It hasn't been you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>know for sure, but they're saying they expect that he'll

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<v Speaker 4>be deported after he serves a sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>But he also had a visa to be here to

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<v Speaker 2>start with, right where it's this guy, this MS thirteen

479
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<v Speaker 2>guy did not have a visa. He was here illegally. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather do my time at a US federal prison,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't you than that El Salvadorian hole that they're sticking

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<v Speaker 2>people in.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't sound like a great place to be.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it does not sound like a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I'm going to guess that the the commissary

486
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<v Speaker 2>is not as well stocked either. Uh, bad way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were kids, we would hear stories about quicksand right,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd hear then you'd hear stories about spontaneous combustion. And

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<v Speaker 2>none of those things have ever affected me. Right, A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things I learned as a kid that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't use as an adult. I don't really have to

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<v Speaker 2>know how to get out of quicksand I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>have to worry about spontaneous combustion. I don't really have

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<v Speaker 2>to know anything about trigonometry. What about rabies. I watched

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<v Speaker 2>Old Yeller Rabies scared the heck out of me, and

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<v Speaker 2>my mother used to tell me, if you get rabies,

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<v Speaker 2>they have to give you a shot in your stomach

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<v Speaker 2>and the needle is eighteen inches long. That's what my

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<v Speaker 2>mother would tell me. Now, a Michigan resident has died

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<v Speaker 2>of rabies. Wasn't bit by a dog or a bat

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<v Speaker 2>or anything else, had an organ transplant, Michigan Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Health and Human Services telling ABC News the patient underwent

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<v Speaker 2>an organ transplant in Ohio. Ohio hospitals are notorious for

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<v Speaker 2>passing rabies to everyone. I added that part the resident

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<v Speaker 2>go buying in a public health investigation determined that they

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<v Speaker 2>contracted rabies through the transplanted organ. The organ donor was

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<v Speaker 2>not from Michigan or Ohio, so don't get your organs

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<v Speaker 2>from other states. I guess. They said that there are

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<v Speaker 2>no current threats to the general public, and that anyone

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<v Speaker 2>exposed to the Michigan patient, including health care providers, has

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<v Speaker 2>been assessed for possible exposure to rabies h and they

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<v Speaker 2>were given post exposure preventative care as well. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you have to take a giant shot

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<v Speaker 2>to the belly if you get rabies any longer you don't. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they've changed that. I think that the rabies

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<v Speaker 2>treatment is not nearly as gross.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you don't get treated, it'll still kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you get foamed at the mouth and then

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<v Speaker 2>somebody has to take you out back and shoot you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way it works, Just like they say, person

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<v Speaker 2>to person transmission RABI is extremely rare, though it has

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<v Speaker 2>been documented in a very small number of cases involving

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<v Speaker 2>organ transplantation.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't the first time that's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>No, wouldn't you think that they would have a test

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure. They have to test those organs for stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd think that they would. Part of that test would

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<v Speaker 2>be does this liver have rabies? I guess not. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes you wonder what the donor died of. How

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<v Speaker 2>peculiar that you have a donor that had rabies but

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<v Speaker 2>then didn't die of rabies, and then their organ was taken.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine that, Oh, I got bit by a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been testing. Maybe they were on their way

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital to be tested for rabies when they

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<v Speaker 2>got into a car accident. See, we don't know this.

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<v Speaker 2>These are details that don't come out because you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to, you know, protect the privacy of the donor,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet it leaves us terrified. Terrified. KFIAM six forty

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