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Speaker 2: The long National Nightmare is nearly over. Neil Savedra returns
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Speaker 2: this morning. It is as always an honor. I just
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Speaker 2: King's voice every morning when they wake up? Just just
Speaker 2: a wild brane to be a part of this.
Speaker 3: We're gonna miss Okay, you can come back.
Speaker 2: You're very thank you. That's all I was looking for. Really,
Speaker 2: just wanted to return, invite. That's it. So, guys, thanks
Speaker 2: so much for letting me play here this last week
Speaker 2: and a half or whatever. It's been a blast. But
Speaker 2: I am ready for a vacation myself, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that and indulge just a little bit
Speaker 2: in some free time, which I don't know about you,
Speaker 2: but free time for me. Means I've got a whole
Speaker 2: list of chores I have to catch up on. So
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of yard work, little home repair,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff this next week. Whatever's on the
Speaker 2: honeydew list, this is my chance to knock it out.
Speaker 2: So good stuff. Somebody who's probably looking for a vacation
Speaker 2: right about now is Pete Hegsiff, but he's not going
Speaker 2: to get one. That is the Secretary of Defense. A
Speaker 2: federal judge is now ordering that White House officials that
Speaker 2: were involved in that signal app group chat on the
Speaker 2: military strikes and Yemen, they're supposed to preserve their messages. Now.
Speaker 2: The US District Court Judge James Boseburg, seems like we've
Speaker 2: heard that name before, has now ordered members of President
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's National security team to hang out to those messages.
Speaker 2: We're gonna want to see those.
Speaker 4: Get a signed to this to this again. Is it
Speaker 4: supposed to be a random pick of judges?
Speaker 2: It is, Yeah, which I think kind of goes to
Speaker 2: show just how many cases are flying through the district
Speaker 2: courts in DC right now.
Speaker 3: So you think it was a random.
Speaker 2: Choice, I do, Yeah, I do that he just.
Speaker 3: Happened to get two Trump cases back to back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here, let me make this point in the
Speaker 2: same way that Aileen Cannon ended up on two Trump
Speaker 2: cases back to back in Florida, that district court judge,
Speaker 2: right that, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think that was random.
Speaker 2: Oh I love this. Oh, go on with your conspiracies.
Speaker 3: Girl, Friday Morning conspiracy.
Speaker 2: All right. So during the during the Biden administration, Trump
Speaker 2: got the judge of choice, but during the Trump administration
Speaker 2: he's not getting of the judges.
Speaker 3: It's fixed on both sides, but.
Speaker 2: It seems to be always fixed against whoever's in the
Speaker 2: White House. How does that happen?
Speaker 3: Well, it's fixed. I'm just joging, I'm just king.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, anyway, there was a lawsuit that was filed
Speaker 2: by American Oversight. They alleged the officials use of the
Speaker 2: signal app violated federal records laws. A little bit later
Speaker 2: on today, in fact, I think we may even have
Speaker 2: some of this in the handle on the news and
Speaker 2: that is that you know Mayor Bass's text messages during
Speaker 2: the LA fires. She was like, Oh, my phone just
Speaker 2: deleted those. How does that happen? This technology? This is
Speaker 2: so wild. How was I even supposed to figure this out?
Speaker 2: And she's been told no, no, you got to hang
Speaker 2: onto those things for a couple of years. You can't go,
Speaker 2: you can't go deleting them. And then lo and behold,
Speaker 2: we're able to recover her messages. The signal app does
Speaker 2: delete messages after a certain period of time, and so
Speaker 2: what the judge is saying is, Nope, if you've got
Speaker 2: to do screenshots or whatever you have to do, you
Speaker 2: preserve those messages. Well, fortunately for the Department of Defense,
Speaker 2: the National Security Advisors, for everybody else that's involved, the
Speaker 2: Vice pro is it, the Secretary of State, the Atlantic
Speaker 2: has gone ahead and screenshot at all of those things.
Speaker 2: So it shouldn't be too tough to preserve those messages
Speaker 2: because well they gave journalists and access to it. Well
Speaker 2: you got that going forward.
Speaker 4: You got to know that again that the guy Goldberg
Speaker 4: who got him. Of course he's going to make a
Speaker 4: copy of them to preserve for eternity immediately in case
Speaker 4: something happens.
Speaker 2: So I happened to see in some of the trades
Speaker 2: there was reaction. As you know, talk radio is about
Speaker 2: ninety five percent right wing talk, and one of the
Speaker 2: questions was, what would happen if you were added to
Speaker 2: that text, and some of them said, well, I'd like
Speaker 2: to think that I would notify everybody in the chat
Speaker 2: that I shouldn't be there. But Amy, if that were
Speaker 2: you from a journalist stamp, because you're the closest thing
Speaker 2: to a journalist we have from a journalist standpoint, Lord
Speaker 2: knows it ain't me, would you notify, hey, everybody, I'm
Speaker 2: not supposed to be in here, Or as a journalist,
Speaker 2: would you start screenshotting and start saving things for posterity,
Speaker 2: for for potential legal challenges, for anything, to cover your
Speaker 2: own butt.
Speaker 4: It's interesting that you ask, because we were just talking
Speaker 4: about this last night and we were talking about how
Speaker 4: as journalists and when you have relationships with different people,
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you get information that you're not supposed
Speaker 4: to share and they say, well, we'll tell you, but
Speaker 4: you can't.
Speaker 3: You can't let this out.
Speaker 2: And you know, I the record or embarga off the.
Speaker 4: Record, embargoed whatever, and I have. I've had some really
Speaker 4: great secrets. So that's why when people say can you
Speaker 4: keep a secret, I'm like, yeah, I have a lot.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, though, how you necessarily handle that
Speaker 4: if you get invited in I would again I would
Speaker 4: like to think that I would reach out to whoever
Speaker 4: started and go, hey, guys, I don't I don't think
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be in here.
Speaker 2: Not me.
Speaker 3: You'd keep it, Oh, I would keep it.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, this is going to be the greatest
Speaker 2: story ever. I am on the verge of disclosing the
Speaker 2: greatest screw up in decades. This is wonderful. But to
Speaker 2: his credit, this this Jeffrey Goldberg from the Atlantic, he
Speaker 2: didn't out them while operations were going on. I mean
Speaker 2: if he had said, if he had published something while
Speaker 2: the attacks were being planned, that would have that would
Speaker 2: have put troops in danger, wouldn't it. That would have
Speaker 2: put pilots.
Speaker 3: In So there was some restraint there. That was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 3: That would have been then a threat to national security.
Speaker 2: And you know my prediction about somebody is going to
Speaker 2: lose their job over this, and I said, oh, somebody's
Speaker 2: gonna lose their job. And then I said, oh, you
Speaker 2: know what. The next day, Trump came out and said, no,
Speaker 2: everybody's great, we all learned our lessons. And I said, oh,
Speaker 2: I might not. I'm kind of edging up back toward
Speaker 2: the somebody might lose their job on this who I
Speaker 2: don't know. There's a lot of behind the scenes, is
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing about. Hegsith right now that he's he's
Speaker 2: screwed a few things up, But I still think I
Speaker 2: still think Mike Wilt that National Security advisor.
Speaker 3: Because he's the one who started the chat or his office.
Speaker 2: Invited him that. I mean, he's the one that screwed
Speaker 2: things up. I had this. It's funny you were I
Speaker 2: don't know who you were talking to last night as
Speaker 2: you were debating the the the media ethics of the
Speaker 2: whole situation, I was debating the reality TV of the
Speaker 2: whole situation. If this were the apprentice, who would Trump fire?
Speaker 2: If they all had to gather in that boardroom and
Speaker 2: somebody had to be dismissed, who would Trump fire? Would
Speaker 2: he get rid of Hegsith for, you know, disclosing the
Speaker 2: information using his personal cell phone, which is something of course,
Speaker 2: it was railed against when it came to Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2: Would he would he bag Hegxith? Or would he say
Speaker 2: But this ultimately comes down to you, Waltz. You're the
Speaker 2: guy that started this whole thing. If it hadn't been
Speaker 2: for you, then nobody else would have been would have
Speaker 2: been wrapped up in this, and for that reason, you're fired.
Speaker 2: Who would he have fired on his show? That's what
Speaker 2: I was debating in my head. And then then I
Speaker 2: had a drink and I watched White Lotus, So that
Speaker 2: was my night. Yep, all right to you?
Speaker 4: Uh, ap is Oh wait, nope, I'm going back. Uh.
Speaker 3: This this one was felt all the way into China.
Speaker 4: A big old earthquake hit in me and mar happened
Speaker 4: around midday local time. It collapsed buildings hundreds of miles
Speaker 4: away in Thailand.
Speaker 3: Away in Thailand.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: They are saying that rural villages.
Speaker 4: Are super affected everywhere from you know, like just small
Speaker 4: towns to glitzy high rises. And there's video of it
Speaker 4: and it says when the shaking started, you could see
Speaker 4: the building swaying. Traffic came to a stop, and they
Speaker 4: said it was felt as far away as China.
Speaker 2: Wow, A seven seven.
Speaker 4: Seven seven, that's that's what with the Northwich north Ridge
Speaker 4: was seven two seven one.
Speaker 3: I wasn't here in that, Yeah, yeah, I mean wow, yeah,
Speaker 3: and so far they really felt this so far away.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They're saying that they have confirmed three people have
Speaker 4: been killed, nineties are missing, and they're saying that there's
Speaker 4: from the building collapses, there's people trapped in debris and stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh yeah. When you hear those initial reports
Speaker 2: and they say three people are lost, and you go,
Speaker 2: well that number is gonna grow. Oh man, that is horrible.
Speaker 2: And uh do you know I worked for the guy
Speaker 2: in San Diego and he used to swear he could
Speaker 2: feel everything. There'd be there would be a tremor in
Speaker 2: Indio and he'd come into working on I felt it.
Speaker 2: I felt that one. So you know, there's somebody that's
Speaker 2: uh it's in Tokyo. That was like I think I
Speaker 2: felt that too, you know, I think I felt it.
Speaker 2: Somebody is saying that that is wild seven to seven.
Speaker 2: And then, like you said, Myanmar and into Bangkok too, right,
Speaker 2: they were feeling it and they had damn it was
Speaker 2: it damage in Bangkok as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, yeah, and it's this is all. It happened
Speaker 4: midday local time, so we're still we're getting information and
Speaker 4: it started as always, it's a little slow to come
Speaker 4: in when big things like this happen.
Speaker 2: Well, remember too, you've got to you've got a very
Speaker 2: you have pockets there as you mentioned you've got some
Speaker 2: glitzy high rises, but you've got pockets of some very
Speaker 2: poor villages and so people that have been devastated by
Speaker 2: some of the bloody battles that have gone on. The
Speaker 2: economy is trash and they are literally just trying to survive,
Speaker 2: and then they get hit with this earthquake, which you know,
Speaker 2: God hates them, I guess is the only the only
Speaker 2: conclusion we can come up with President Donald Trump saying
Speaker 2: the United States is gonna go as far as we
Speaker 2: have to. We're gonna go as far as we have
Speaker 2: to go to get control of Greenland. If you'll recall
Speaker 2: Vice President J. D. Vance is headed there today. Uh
Speaker 2: he second Lady Usha Vance. I keep saying her name
Speaker 2: wrong too, So my hologies on that. And Energy Secretary
Speaker 2: Chris Wright is going to leave the United States delegation
Speaker 2: lead excuse me, the delegation to visit the military base
Speaker 2: in oh Is that a swear word pit to fit?
Speaker 2: I don't speak Greenlandese, and I'm afraid of that. That's
Speaker 2: a curse word in English. Anyway, they are scaling back
Speaker 2: their plants for the broader and longer visit, mostly because
Speaker 2: Greenland said, we don't want you here. They were going
Speaker 2: to go to the capital and they will not. They
Speaker 2: were going to visit the Greenland and capital and then
Speaker 2: also take in a dog sled race, because that's what
Speaker 2: you do in Greenland. Trump showing no indication of softening
Speaker 2: is ambition to take control of the island, which of
Speaker 2: course is a territory of Denmark. Trump saying we need
Speaker 2: Greenland for national security and international security. This flies in
Speaker 2: the face of the non interventionalist, more isolationist pitch that
Speaker 2: we got during the campaign. We're going to not be
Speaker 2: involved in other people's wars. We are not going to
Speaker 2: be sending our military abroad. But instead we're saying we
Speaker 2: are sending our military abroad to pick fights. So how
Speaker 2: much when he says we'll go as far as we
Speaker 2: have to go, are we dispatching our own military to
Speaker 2: Greenland beyond, of course the military that's already stationed there.
Speaker 2: Trump says, I view it from a security standpoint, we
Speaker 2: have to be there. Well, we are there, we do
Speaker 2: have a base there. But do we need to take
Speaker 2: their rare earth minerals. That's the question that we're all
Speaker 2: facing right now. That's the question that the administration is considering,
Speaker 2: and that's the question that we want answered as observers
Speaker 2: of how our politicians behave Amy King.
Speaker 4: AP says it's locked out. A veteran AP photographer and
Speaker 4: White House correspondent testified yesterday that AP has struggled to
Speaker 4: compete in its average of the Trump presidency since the
Speaker 4: White House's decision to limit its access to presidential events,
Speaker 4: the Oval Office and Air Force One. She said they're
Speaker 4: really struggling to keep up with its competitors, particularly during
Speaker 4: major news events that have happened during the opening weeks
Speaker 4: of President Trump's second term.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the endgame on this one? Is it to
Speaker 2: bolster media that is friendly to the president. I mean
Speaker 2: that's on the surfaces what people say AP was mean
Speaker 2: to him. AP won't call it the Gulf of America.
Speaker 2: So AP is going to pay the price. And AP
Speaker 2: is saying we can't keep up with our competitors. On
Speaker 2: the other hand, if you were some of the competitors,
Speaker 2: you may have been saying, we can't possibly get a
Speaker 2: foot in the door because AP is taking all of
Speaker 2: the They're taking up all the seats, right, always the reporters, right,
Speaker 2: they always get a seat, right, And so you have
Speaker 2: others that have said, well, that's that's an unfair disadvantage
Speaker 2: to us, because AP is all granted this seat. And
Speaker 2: now the AP is saying, well, this is unfair to
Speaker 2: us because we can't have the access that we've always had.
Speaker 2: So we may just be seeing a shift in the
Speaker 2: This might be the new world news order that we're witnessing.
Speaker 2: The difference, though, is that the AP is an aggregate
Speaker 2: news organization. It is not isolated too. It's not CNN,
Speaker 2: it's not News Nation, it's not Fox, it's not One
Speaker 2: America or whatever else.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: A conglomerate of journalists who then distribute out to all
Speaker 2: the other agencies. So CNN, Fox, News Nation, all these
Speaker 2: others can still pull AP coverage provided they pay the
Speaker 2: AP dues, which are not cheap. Incidentally, it was a
Speaker 2: fight I used to have as a manager at a
Speaker 2: station I was at for years. He said, do we
Speaker 2: really need the AP? And I said, well, you don't
Speaker 2: have a news department, so yeah, we do need the AP.
Speaker 2: If we want to have any news product on our
Speaker 2: news station, we're going to need to have access to AP.
Speaker 2: But and now AP doesn't have access to the White House,
Speaker 2: so how much value do they have to these places
Speaker 2: that are paying those high fees to get their products.
Speaker 2: Ever since news broke about the Trump officials discussing US
Speaker 2: military attack plans in a group chat that inadvertently included
Speaker 2: a journalist, Defense Secretary Pete Hexith, projecting unflinching confidence, he
Speaker 2: said on Tuesday, I know exactly what I'm doing, do you? Though?
Speaker 2: Because other Defense officials later in the week were increasingly skeptical,
Speaker 2: especially after The Atlantic magazine then printed some of the
Speaker 2: signal chat about the pending strike on the Hooti rebels
Speaker 2: and Yemen. According to one Defense official talking with CNN,
Speaker 2: it's safe to say that anybody in uniform would be
Speaker 2: court martialed for this. My most junior analysts know not
Speaker 2: to do this. So some say Hexith looks particularly bad
Speaker 2: given the level of detail that he shared in the chat.
Speaker 2: So Hesith didn't realize that the chat was being shared
Speaker 2: with the journalist, and he was just spilling all the tea.
Speaker 2: You know, hey, we're leaving at this time, the bombs
Speaker 2: will drop here at this time. It was very specific
Speaker 2: and he was discussing it in detail, even though he
Speaker 2: wasn't the guy that invited the journalist in there are
Speaker 2: questions about his ability to do the job, mostly because
Speaker 2: he was just given all the details in this signal app.
Speaker 2: I gotta believe, and he was using his phone too.
Speaker 2: I gotta believe. We've already seen the Chinese hacking into,
Speaker 2: or at least attempting to hack into the private phones
Speaker 2: of different elected officials. I gotta believe they are doubling
Speaker 2: down on that effort. And I also have to believe
Speaker 2: that Russia, who was sharing information with some of these
Speaker 2: other groups, is happy to be able to try to
Speaker 2: hack into somebody else's phone to watch what they're doing.
Speaker 2: And all it takes is just to congratulations, you've won
Speaker 2: a new car click here, and then somebody clicks on
Speaker 2: it and go, that's weird. I didn't even know I
Speaker 2: was looking for a new car, and then they click
Speaker 2: on it and suddenly they've opened their phone up to
Speaker 2: Russian hackers. So a lot of concerns about this, the
Speaker 2: same concerns that people had about Hillary Clinton using her
Speaker 2: BlackBerry back in the day. What I find to be
Speaker 2: the most interesting on this signal chat breach is the
Speaker 2: hypocrisy that is raining down from both sides. We have
Speaker 2: people on the left that when Hillary Clinton had her BlackBerry,
Speaker 2: they said, lots of officials use their phones. Colin Powell
Speaker 2: us his phone, Hillary Clinton use. They're very safe phones
Speaker 2: with there's nothing to worry about. I know you've got
Speaker 2: that photo of Hillary Clinton on Air Force one using
Speaker 2: her BlackBerry, but that's totally fine. You guys are blowing
Speaker 2: this way out of proportion. And the Republicans at the
Speaker 2: time said Hillary Clinton has jeopardized the lives of American soldiers.
Speaker 2: Hillary clinton wanton disregard for security measures is putting American
Speaker 2: lives of our heroes at risk. And Hillary Clinton should
Speaker 2: be court martialed and hanged in the public square. Lock
Speaker 2: her up, lock her up, lock her up. And now
Speaker 2: it's completely flipped. So now you've got Democrats that want
Speaker 2: to for although I haven't heard anybody saying that people
Speaker 2: need to be criminally charged. There was a question that
Speaker 2: was posed by media to Pam Bondi, the Attorney generalist,
Speaker 2: said will there be a criminal investigation and she said nah,
Speaker 2: So evidently we're not going to lock him up at all.
Speaker 2: There will be none of that. But will there be
Speaker 2: political fallout? Will hegsif lose his job? Will this National
Speaker 2: Security advisor that invited the journalist onto the signal app
Speaker 2: chat Mike Waltz lose his job. That remains to be seen,
Speaker 2: but safe to say the confidence in the competency of
Speaker 2: some of these officials is coming into question. Amy King
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 3: Elise is in limbo.
Speaker 4: The White House has pulled Representative Elas Stephonics nomination to
Speaker 4: become the next US ambassador to the United Nations. President
Speaker 4: Trump said he was going to withdraw the nomination because
Speaker 4: they've got such a narrow majority in the House he
Speaker 4: needs to do everything he can to preserve that so
Speaker 4: he can push forward his agenda and get his stuff passed.
Speaker 4: He also said he didn't want to take a chance
Speaker 4: on Stephanic's open seat in northern New York, that it
Speaker 4: might go to the Democrats. It is heavily favored for
Speaker 4: the Republicans now. Stephanic, since she was named as the
Speaker 4: UN ambassador or the nominee to be, had to give
Speaker 4: up her leadership post, so she's sort of in limbo
Speaker 4: right now. She's still a congresswoman, but lost her power.
Speaker 2: Position, but she still got the job.
Speaker 3: She doesn't.
Speaker 4: Both Trump and Johnson say they're going to find something
Speaker 4: for her because she was like three in the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, She's gonna be fine. One
Speaker 2: of the things about this administration is that they tend
Speaker 2: to say the quiet part out loud. I love that.
Speaker 2: I mean, at least there's a certain and it's it's
Speaker 2: funny to say from a president who will still argue
Speaker 2: about crowd sizes. It is. It is funny to hear
Speaker 2: just how blatantly honest they are about some of their tactics.
Speaker 2: It's not you know, at least Stephonic is just she's
Speaker 2: too important to the operations in the House and and
Speaker 2: you know, we've got some other people with the un
Speaker 2: and we're so thankful that she was willing to put
Speaker 2: things aside for the good of her country. Instead they
Speaker 2: go at least Stephonic, we need her vote. So basically,
Speaker 2: she's gonna lose this better job because we really need
Speaker 2: her vote and we don't want to take the chance
Speaker 2: of losing all the crap we're trying to put through
Speaker 2: the House. So I'm gonna find somebody else to do
Speaker 2: the job, probably a relative. But Stephanic is going to
Speaker 2: go back to the house and just be a house mom.
Speaker 2: That's your thing. She can be a house mom from
Speaker 2: here on out. And I so appreciate the honesty.
Speaker 4: You know what, when you do your Donald Trump, you
Speaker 4: sound like Alec Baldwin's Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: See. I just think it's horrible.
Speaker 3: I think it's fine.
Speaker 2: It's one of those brutally bad impersonations, so terrible. Secretary
Speaker 2: of State Marco Rubio says at least three hundred foreign
Speaker 2: students I've had their visas revoked amid the Trump administration's
Speaker 2: immigration crackdown. He said maybe more. He might be more
Speaker 2: than three hundred at this point. So he says, we
Speaker 2: do it every day. Every time I find one of
Speaker 2: these lunatics, I take away their visa, and I hope
Speaker 2: at some point we run out because we have gotten
Speaker 2: rid of all of them. But we're looking every day
Speaker 2: for these lunatics that are tearing things up. The administration
Speaker 2: officials are looking to block some colleges that have too
Speaker 2: many quote unquote pro Hamas foreign students from admitting any
Speaker 2: international individuals. So high profile cases come out of Columbia,
Speaker 2: Tufts and the University of Alabama. Trump Administration's cracked down
Speaker 2: on the pro Palestinian foreign students, escalating let's juxtapose this
Speaker 2: to another story that we had. I can't remember amy
Speaker 2: if it was yesterday or the day before, but there
Speaker 2: were Palestinian protests in Gaza against Hamas. Right, So you
Speaker 2: had Palestinians that were protesting Hamas. That sort of flies
Speaker 2: in the face of the narrative that we've heard that
Speaker 2: if you are Palestinian in Gaza, you are Hamas. Right,
Speaker 2: there's well, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think we've said all Palestinians are Hamas.
Speaker 2: You and I haven't. But the narrative that we've heard
Speaker 2: from others is that that the Palestinians are Hamas. And
Speaker 2: I've had this argument. I go, are you telling me
Speaker 2: that the women and children who are dying in Gaza
Speaker 2: are supporters of Hamas? And I hear, well, they voted
Speaker 2: a man and they don't. They've never gotten rid of Hamas.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, it's because they voted a man
Speaker 2: and then Hamas turned into a terrorist organization and they
Speaker 2: took over and didn't allow for democratic voting any longer. Well,
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have done that, That's what I hear. These
Speaker 2: are not well educated people I talk to a lot.
Speaker 2: I really need to change my circle of friends, come
Speaker 2: to think of it, But it does fly in the
Speaker 2: face of that narrative that you do, in fact, have
Speaker 2: people in Gaza who are Palestinian that are saying, we
Speaker 2: don't want this war and terror crap. So can you?
Speaker 2: And this is the argument that we're going to have
Speaker 2: when it comes to these universities. Can you have someone
Speaker 2: that is pro Palestinian that doesn't like seeing the fighting
Speaker 2: continuing in Gaza that is not pro Hamas as the
Speaker 2: administration is pointing it out? In other words, are all
Speaker 2: of the protesters at the universities that we saw last year,
Speaker 2: are they all quote unquote pro Hamas? I don't believe
Speaker 2: that they are. I do believe a lot of those
Speaker 2: protests did get out of hand, and I don't think
Speaker 2: that they should have gotten out of hand, and that
Speaker 2: disgusted me as well. But it's a whole lot different
Speaker 2: than saying somebody is pro terrorist when they are just
Speaker 2: bad at protesting.
Speaker 3: To you, speaking of bad, they got a really bad one.
Speaker 4: The alleged leader of an MS thirteen street gang on
Speaker 4: the East Coast has been arrested in Virginia. Twenty four
Speaker 4: year old is from l Salvador, described as one of
Speaker 4: MS's thirteen's top leaders in the US and he's just twenty.
Speaker 3: Four and it's part of the called ambitious I guess
Speaker 3: they were.
Speaker 4: They're talking about it that saying he was recruited as
Speaker 4: like when he was in eighth grade or something.
Speaker 3: Crazy.
Speaker 2: Wow, but that's impressive.
Speaker 4: They rated wherever he was living and have taken him
Speaker 4: into custody.
Speaker 2: Now, is he a foreign national Salvador from L Salvador? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah here illegally Okay?
Speaker 2: So does he I honestly don't know the answer to
Speaker 2: this question. Does he have to do time. Let's say
Speaker 2: he's found guilty of the MS thirteeniness of it all?
Speaker 2: Does he do time in the United States and then
Speaker 2: get deported or do we just deport him to that L.
Speaker 2: Salvador in prison where we're sending the trace Deagua's trendy
Speaker 2: trent trede.
Speaker 4: Diagua trenday Aragua. Yeah, I can't be TDA, that's what
Speaker 4: everybody's calling it.
Speaker 2: There you go the CBA. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, because like Shoeo Tani's interpreter, different kind of crime, right,
Speaker 4: But he was sentenced to almost five years. He's expected
Speaker 4: to serve out his sentence here and then they're saying
Speaker 4: they expect to It hasn't been you know, we don't
Speaker 4: know for sure, but they're saying they expect that he'll
Speaker 4: be deported after he serves a sentence.
Speaker 2: But he also had a visa to be here to
Speaker 2: start with, right where it's this guy, this MS thirteen
Speaker 2: guy did not have a visa. He was here illegally. Huh.
Speaker 2: I'd rather do my time at a US federal prison,
Speaker 2: wouldn't you than that El Salvadorian hole that they're sticking
Speaker 2: people in.
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like a great place to be.
Speaker 2: No, it does not sound like a lot of fun
Speaker 2: to me. I'm going to guess that the the commissary
Speaker 2: is not as well stocked either. Uh, bad way to go.
Speaker 2: When we were kids, we would hear stories about quicksand right,
Speaker 2: you'd hear then you'd hear stories about spontaneous combustion. And
Speaker 2: none of those things have ever affected me. Right, A
Speaker 2: lot of things I learned as a kid that I
Speaker 2: don't use as an adult. I don't really have to
Speaker 2: know how to get out of quicksand I don't really
Speaker 2: have to worry about spontaneous combustion. I don't really have
Speaker 2: to know anything about trigonometry. What about rabies. I watched
Speaker 2: Old Yeller Rabies scared the heck out of me, and
Speaker 2: my mother used to tell me, if you get rabies,
Speaker 2: they have to give you a shot in your stomach
Speaker 2: and the needle is eighteen inches long. That's what my
Speaker 2: mother would tell me. Now, a Michigan resident has died
Speaker 2: of rabies. Wasn't bit by a dog or a bat
Speaker 2: or anything else, had an organ transplant, Michigan Department of
Speaker 2: Health and Human Services telling ABC News the patient underwent
Speaker 2: an organ transplant in Ohio. Ohio hospitals are notorious for
Speaker 2: passing rabies to everyone. I added that part the resident
Speaker 2: go buying in a public health investigation determined that they
Speaker 2: contracted rabies through the transplanted organ. The organ donor was
Speaker 2: not from Michigan or Ohio, so don't get your organs
Speaker 2: from other states. I guess. They said that there are
Speaker 2: no current threats to the general public, and that anyone
Speaker 2: exposed to the Michigan patient, including health care providers, has
Speaker 2: been assessed for possible exposure to rabies h and they
Speaker 2: were given post exposure preventative care as well. By the way,
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to take a giant shot
Speaker 2: to the belly if you get rabies any longer you don't. No,
Speaker 2: I think they've changed that. I think that the rabies
Speaker 2: treatment is not nearly as gross.
Speaker 3: But if you don't get treated, it'll still kill you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you get foamed at the mouth and then
Speaker 2: somebody has to take you out back and shoot you.
Speaker 2: That's the way it works, Just like they say, person
Speaker 2: to person transmission RABI is extremely rare, though it has
Speaker 2: been documented in a very small number of cases involving
Speaker 2: organ transplantation.
Speaker 3: This isn't the first time that's happened.
Speaker 2: No, wouldn't you think that they would have a test
Speaker 2: to make sure. They have to test those organs for stuff, right,
Speaker 2: you'd think that they would. Part of that test would
Speaker 2: be does this liver have rabies? I guess not. Also,
Speaker 2: it makes you wonder what the donor died of. How
Speaker 2: peculiar that you have a donor that had rabies but
Speaker 2: then didn't die of rabies, and then their organ was taken.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that, Oh, I got bit by a dog.
Speaker 2: I haven't been testing. Maybe they were on their way
Speaker 2: to the hospital to be tested for rabies when they
Speaker 2: got into a car accident. See, we don't know this.
Speaker 2: These are details that don't come out because you have to.
Speaker 2: You have to, you know, protect the privacy of the donor,
Speaker 2: and yet it leaves us terrified. Terrified. KFIAM six forty
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