Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to the postgame
hang at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. After
the Clippers lose a really what became a really weird
game vibe wise to the Lakers. They lose one two,
played heroically, played hard until the very end before I'm
Chuck Walckler. If you're listening to this and you miss
the stream, you can always find us at YouTube dot
com slash at Clippers podcast. Like I said, William Updyke
should be on. Adam is doing Clippers talk. He might
pop onto, But first off, just hope John Collins is
doing okay. Collins took a huge fall in the second
quarter of this game. Right towards the end of the half.
Jackson Hayes was backing up. Collins went up for the dunk.
He took a he took a hard fall. We hope
he's doing okay. He was wabbling to the locker room
so like it was just kind of scary vibes. So yeah,
he he was ruled out for that game. Tyler said,
that doesn't look like an effing team that's trying to lose.
To me into some pregame promis about the season is over.
I hope these Kawhi comments don't become something overblown, because
I feel like Kawhi has been talking about the contender
thing and then now Tylusman asked about it like twice,
which is weird. Yeah, prayers up for John Collins. Hope
he's doing okay. Kawhi also hurt at the end of
this game. He was ruled out with left ankle soreness
with like four minutes to go in the fourth. He
finished with thirty one points. He looked incredible. He was
obviously a large reason of why the Clippers were in
this game. Betedict Matherne was great too. We're gonna talk
about all that, but this game was weird, Like, this
game had really weird things that didn't break the Clippers way.
The John Collins thing was scary, and we hope he's okay.
The Kawhi thing is frustrating because that's just how it goes.
Tyler didn't really hold back on the press or all
the refs at all. He said, when you're falbating the
whole game, it's tough. These guys are already great players.
We did everything we could. Yeah, yeah, I kind of
went in Yeah man, Yeah, Tyler was really upset. Yeah,
it is overblown. I'm actually gonna stop giving it credence
because it's just like it's whatever. They're still trying to
win games. Obviously, this this game was weird tonight. It
felt like house money. But the Clippers still needed wins
and we all disliked the Lakers. They were down seven
and a half. The Lakers had like the best first
quarter of shooting all year in this game. They shot
like sixty percent from the floor in the first quarter.
Like the fact the Clippers are able to battle back.
I think it's a testament to how off both defenses
were too, Like the Lakers defense was rough. Obviously. Yes,
Stump is saying Ben Mathern is legit future All Star
sign him. It's a fun experience so far, Like he
gets free throw at times, he can make things happen.
He talked shit to Jamal Murray before Jamal Murray took
those free throws. The bet I'm all in on the
bed Maathron experience. It's rat as hell. Sorry, I'm just
trying to pull some stats from the first quarter. I
hate sometimes you know, his NBA box scores, It's like,
what are we doing here? Load them. Yeah, so Tyler
is hot, which makes sense. The rest it was rough
in this game. They did everything they could. There was
one like, yeah, Mathron is the man. I can't wait
to watch when Garland comes back, when this team is
at full strength. It's gonna be really fun to watch.
Still again, Kauhi had thirty one. Mathron had twenty six,
fourteen free throws. Getting this many free throws is so
useful for this Clippers team. The fact that math is
able to do that. I have to give a shout
out to brook Lopez. John Collins before he got hurt
was playing great brook Lopez. Like the Clippers needed brook
Lopez is non three point offense to start this one,
and he was great. He had like I think he
scored the first five points or something for the Clips
ten boards like Dryshon' Junior played like the guys played
really well. Everyone played really well. But the Lakers is
shot incredibly well in the first quarter, which was a
huge boost. And then the refs like it was a lot.
I mean, it was frustrating. I don't know Matthron getting
fourteen free throws, I don't know how much the refs
really lost this one. Yeah, if healthy we won. This
was a game that the margins. The margins were already
really thin and losing John Collins is huge, and again
they lost him right before half. It's like you go
into half with this weird thing that kind of happened,
and you're losing a guy who's contributing a lot. Obviously,
someone's asking, what does my hat say? It says Tony's
Redondo Beach Pier. There's a restaurant in Redondo Beach called Tony's.
It has a restaurant on the pier, and then a
thing called Top of Tony's, which is like a crow's
nest style lighthouse bar, and it's delicious. Go to Top
of Tony's if you're ever in Redondo Beach and they're
not paying me for that. Yeah. Again, just a weird game.
It's great that we won the Denver game again, a
game where Mathroom was fantastic. Kawhi was one of seven
in that Denver game, but the fact that Mathern's able
to get to the three, get to the free throw
line helps offset that, which is awesome. Collins played great,
like this is just it was just another offensively really
good basketball game. Defensively, it was difficult, but it was
always kind of going to be difficult, especially with center rotation. Again,
the defense was fine, it's just hard with what we
have now. Man, Yeah, this box score is frustrating to
look at. Mathrone found out. It's just difficult. Like just
a weird game though. Yeah, great call Matherne and mcghetti
with a similar kind of build. That's a good call. Yeah,
the Clippers were missing that third breakout score they needed.
It's yeah and yeah, and then just the momentum swings
were really hard to deal with. I think that on
the second hand of a back to back it's kind
of herky jerky with the reviews and all that stuff.
So but they played hard, right, Like that's what I mean.
They lost with dignity, Like that's a plot. Pedro Rosado
asking why is Kobe getting DNPS. I was texting about
this with Joseph fry Award and we were kind of
wondering why, Like we know Jordan Miller's older, but when
not get Kobe those minutes, it's a little weird. I
do think that that'll probably change, right, Like, we have
a rotating center rotating. We have three centers right now
in the rotation. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
think that'll probably change. I think Kobe will get time,
but they are still trying to win games. I guess.
So it's I mean, Kobe and Jordan Miller are the
ones who are kind of their spots, are the ones
who are up for grabs. So I bet we'll see hopefully,
I should say hopefully, but I bet we will see
some Kobe Sanders minutes switching out for Jordan Miller's Niko
my cousin is here saying, I'm back to back against
the team coming back fresh from the break. That's tough. Yea,
it is very tough. They they played hard, they did.
I wanted the win too, JJ is saying, They'll be honest, damn,
I wanted this win. Yeah, I mean I wanted the
win for sure, But getting the win against the Nuggets
the way we did was great. Shout out to the wall.
The wall was legitimately a help, very helpful in the
game against the Nuggets. That was awesome to see. Yeah,
I haven't heard about Bogey in a long time. Yeah,
I don't know. He's just kind of in stay ready mode.
I guess I do. Yeah, Sanders is ahead of Bogey
in the rotation. So that's good. Yeah, Access Entertainment Production
saying the rest did the Clippers dirty? That was a factory. Yeah,
Tyler was hot about it. In the post game, John
Collins just an update from Justin Russo said that in
the locker room he feels okay, but he has some
stitches above his left eyebrow. Yeah, he was leaking. That
was a rough I don't know. I'm cautious about this stuff.
He should probably sit out on Sunday. That would probably
be a good call. Excuse me. Matthron looked good, but
his defense's lapses are prevalent. Still love the aggression of effort. Yeah,
I mean, we'll take what we can get right now,
Like he's coming off the bench. We need his scoring,
like he gets boards. And the lineups defensively, there's some
difficult lineups for him to play in. If you don't
have a good center, he's gonna look worse defensively. Everyone does.
But I think you know what I mean, Like that's
not an excuse, but the lineups are kind of difficult.
Like if he was out there with some better centers, defensively,
I think it look okay. Someone's asking was the Kauhi
thing precautionary waiting on postgame quotes for it right now.
I don't know. I don't know. The game was close
when he got taken out, you know what I mean,
Like he wasn't he was taken out when it was
a still a winnable game. Yeah, it was some. It
was some late calls, definitely, some late calls has made
it frustrating. Wanted this one. Whoever said that earlier, I
totally feel you. I wanted this one. It is frustrating.
But that went against the Nuggets was pretty nice. Direct
Junior had a good kind of He's been carrying his
momentum from right at the end of the or before
the All Star Break to now, which is great. The
Denver game is nuts because the Clipper shot twenty four
percent from three and still one. So it's like, maybe
we weren't supposed to win that one. We were supposed
to win this one. Splitting this back to back is
great out of the All Star break, but Enski saying
genuinely curious, what's curious what happens at the center position
in the offseason. Brook's been better, but I don't think
he can sustain this for that long term. No, Brook
is not a long term center. He's thirty something, right,
he's thirty seven. He's not a long term center at all.
No disrespect to Brook. We needed him tonight. He was
good tonight, but offensively. M yeah, this is no they're
trying to It's like a rotating thing right now. Isaiah
Jackson's gonna get of minutes. Like we've heard ty talked
about that the other day. It's weird. It's not my favorite,
but yeah, Derek Jone Junior, he's kind of like the
new Norm Powell. Norm Powell was always like I mean,
Norm Powell took a huge elbow to the head. As
a Clipper, you kind of get the shit kicked out
of you if you're a role player for the Clippers,
like you are going to take a harsh fall at
some point, which is not good. Man. I cannot stress
how upset Tyler was. Let me bring this up. Actually,
he's just not excited. He is so pissed off.
Speaker 2: Coah has been dealing with some left ankles soreness, so
I got stiff on them. So we got him out
and jac still being evaluated.
Speaker 1: MH. What did you like from your team in the fight,
especially losing Kawhi and just scrapping together on the second
night of a back to back.
Speaker 2: You saw, you saw. That's who we are, you know.
So you know this group, we're gonna compete, We're gonna
fight every night. And that is like a fucking team
that's trying to lose to me every night.
Speaker 1: And damn way to go, Tyler.
Speaker 2: You know, goes out being you know, fouls out and
guys are still scrambling and competing and had a chance
to tie it up.
Speaker 1: You know, that's rad as hell. No one is giving
up on this team. It's awesome. I liked one of
the things I liked. I think this happened in the
Denver game is there is a bit of a scrap,
but it was Yannick and someone else for the for
the Nuggets, and Mathern came in and backed him up.
I love the chemistry that the team has been able
to maintain with new guys. Matherine seems crazy in a
good way. I mean that, I want to be clear
on that, Like all the guys are doing the little
things like Mathern got an offensive board off of a
John Collins free throw tonight, and like to have every
guy who's kind of making those extra effort plays is
really awesome to see. And I think Tyler in that
post game that is the vibe like that's they don't
want to lose, They're not playing to lose. Yeah, fired
up after that. You gotta feel good after seeing Tyler
say that. Stump, thank you for the super chat saying
if Kauhi is load managing this Sunday, let Mathern start.
We need to see him as a starter at full capability.
Future two way all start the off season. Next season
is gonna be interesting because we have to assume the
starting lineup is probably gonna be I mean, like, we'll
talk about that when we get there. It's exciting. I'm
very excited for what this team's gonna look like at
full strength. Have I said that five thousand times before? Yes?
Am I ready to say it again obviously. Yeah. I
like seeing ty Lou fired up. That's good stuff. He
also mentioned i't know if people caught that the ankle
had some stiffness, some soreness. So that's where we're at
on that. We hope he's okay. Yeah, math that's the
other part with Matherin. If once you have, if you
have Mathron next to Done, Derek Jones Jr. And Kawhi
and then another center, like a center that's better at
defense than Lopezrianic. It's it's not bad like it can
be moved around. No team will be perfect. We are
getting ahead of ourselves. Yeah, there's a lot of what
IF's with this game. It's frustrating. You want to get
the win. Miriam Swatson sending her well wishes, saying, I
hope Kawi is okay. Dude's been the best player in
the NBA the last few weeks. Absolutely, I think we
all kind of share that sentiment. What I like about this.
Someone commented, hope this sticks with the young guys. Math
Yana had some lapses too. I think it will Yanni
had a couple, Oh he's a rookie moves or situations
in the game against the Lakers, he could have he
could have done. He missed a dunk or dunk opportunity.
I should excuse me a dunk opportunity he had. Lebron flopped,
But if you're a rookie, you can't elbow Lebron like that. Like,
I know it's annoying that Lebron flopped, but but you
can't elbow Lebron if you're a rookie anyway. Yeah, there
was just a couple of growing pain things from the
Ontic in this game. Yeah, it was the illegal screen,
thank you, Ali Maleik. It was the illegal screen, which
was an illegal screen. It's frustrating. Yeah, JJ saying a
love Lopez. Yeah, he's way tougher than Zoo. I don't
know what that means. He was good tonight. He was
solid against the He had two really good plays against
the Nuggets right in a row, like made a stop
on Jokic, I think got a dunk, like when he
plays within the three point line. It's been very helpful
for the clips. Derek Joe Junior was good tonight. Eight
boards is what I really like from DJ. College was
crashing the boards against the Nuggets too, which is awesome. So,
I mean, all of these guys are doing the extra thing.
Ryan Rohass is asking which mariner is on your mug Griffy. Yes,
this is a Ken Griffy Junior mug. Uh. It's pretty sick.
It's got his stats on the back, pre typing God
his gift. Yeah, Yoani's gonna learn like it's his first year.
It's not. And you hope we see some steady defensive
improvement on defense as this year goes on, because he's
got good guys to learn from. Obviously. Yeah, the offense,
I'm not as obviously that's not I don't think we
should be as concerned about the offense as you are
the defense. And we just have to hope it evens out. Yeah,
people really did not like the ESPN commentators this was
this game was on fan Duel or whatever. I watched
the Brian Stephen commentary. No one liked. No one liked
those commentators at all. Eric we was tweeting about it too.
Speaking of which, did the Chuck drawing come out yet?
I hope? I think that's gonna be good. Someone was
making a comment about yeah, yeah, yeah, Abeam said this
team is showing why we need Garland back instantly. Yeah Garland.
There's la Murray kind of alluded to him coming back
in March, which I think makes sense. If you watch
that clip from practice, he's still walking a little. There
is pure armchair doctoring. He's walked a little gingerly on
that toe, and I did that just means like the recovery,
it's fine. I want him to be one hundred percent
when he gets back, and so it's like, if that
takes a little bit of time, I think that's okay.
It's a long term play. He signed for two more
seasons after this frustrating loss. Noble, but frustrating loss for
sure for this Clips team. Marcus Smart had a stupid
late run in this game. He didn't score like an
all that he scored like five points late. That was
super frustrating. Luke Canard, Okay, I have some stat. Luke
Carnard's on the Lakers, and when Luke Canard got signed,
they were like, oh, they finally got a shooter. Luke
Canard doesn't shoot the ball. Draymond Green is taking more
threes per game than Luke Canard by like one more
three per game. It's such a funny thing. It doesn't
make any sense. Yes, it does not make sense at all.
But the Clippers move on to the Magic on Sunday. Yeah,
I don't think anyone's saying Tyler was holding the team back.
He's very fired up. I think the post game was
great from him tonight. Josie cares. It's a frustrating loss,
and again, Kawhi was playing fantastic. The Mather and experience
has been great though. That has been very refreshing, and
I'm very excited for when Garland and him and again
Kawhi can share the floor together because offensively, that's gonna
be a lot of fun. I don't get the Tyler
hate today either. I think people people want to be
Malcolm tense. They want to be upset about something. Ryan
Rojas says, what seed do you realistic see the Clippers
at the end of the season. I think they could
get eighth other than the thunder, I think they could
play a first round spoiler. Well, I don't know, because
after tonight we don't know. Kawhi has a new knock,
which is frustrating. There are two games out of eighth
after the plan. Could they finish eighth, Yeah, I think so,
But I think standing wise, eight, nine to ten are
pretty close. The Blazers are only two and a half
games out of eighth and a half game out of ninth,
So I don't know. It's gonna be really weird March.
And I know if you listen to the show, you
know that I talk about this kind of a lot.
There's a lot of games in March. There's a lot
of back to backs. Someone pointed out earlier in the
stream that the Clippers have like five more back to
backs or something like that, And so that makes me
weary what this team's gonna look like down the stretch
because last year they had to go on an incredible
run to finish where they did, and they I don't
know where that run would even put them, you know
what I mean, Like it's I don't know, it's I
think they're going to be hanging out in the in
the eight nine spot and they'll just be in the plane. Yeah,
they got a five and seven. Oh after the plan
they finished seventh. Yeah, sure, I think in the plan,
it's like, yeah, let's go. Garland's healthy, Like, yeah, that's
definitely feasible. Yeah, just putting people on timeout. It's a
fun time. We lose the Lakers and I put people
on timeout on YouTube. That's what happens. Man. What an
effort from the guys tonight is fun basketball to watch.
Matherne is insane, which is great in a fun way.
Just lost his mind against the Nuggets for his home debut.
Like it's feeling the building blocks are there, right, Like
I think we're getting we're getting signs that we were
all excited about the trades. Like maybe like excited we
all could understand why the trades happened. And the one
part of one part of the big trade looks good
so far, right, Like, hey, Matthrone looks like something that
can definitely be a piece. Like he picked up where
he left off in terms of playing well when he
wasn't Indian we got the picks. It's like, yeah, all right,
there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic right now. Yes,
Tyler gave the game away. They lost our three. Man,
I don't know. I don't know if you can give
the game away losing by three and losing someone like
John Collins at halftime to a freak concussion. There's other
things to be upset about. Would like to I really
hope they get to win on Sunday. That would be
nice because they play. Yeah, they have the five and
seven coming up. They have a really annoying back to back.
At least it's not too far. Yeah. Yeah, but Tom
was a little I mean, he only had two shots,
So what are you gonna do but tough loss. Love
to see the effort, love to see the guys respond
to some weird things. That happened, and the reps it
was difficult, just some some Ticki Taki calls and some
late calls. I am going to head out. Thank you
to everyone for hanging out. The Clippers split the back
to back, which we could be happy about. We're waiting
more news about Kahi, which is frustrating. I think it's
kind of a thing of we shouldn't have won the
game against the Nuggets and we should have won the
game against the Lakers, and it got cosmically switched. Whatever.
We split the back to back. Let's hope they win
on Sunday. Let's hope Kauhai is okay. John Collins should
probably sit out. That's what I think. If you're listening
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