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Speaker 1: Made destange.

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Speaker 2: Pace Sunny Sun on I hadturdasion.

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Speaker 3: Night.

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Speaker 2: Hey everybody, what's up for crying out loud? I'm your host, Stephanie.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god? Are we going to just phone it in?

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We we had such a great interview. We have an

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interview coming up.

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Speaker 1: Yes with Stacy Garcia.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have.

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Speaker 1: I missed a Monday podcast.

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Speaker 4: We did our Patreon if you want to go back

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and listen to it and catch up on everything that

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happened with Peopo's dental work. Peopo, check your molar. We

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did check her molar and it was things went sideways. Yeah,

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things went sideways. That's our Patreon And then we already

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did our first episode, so this is just like honestly,

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we're on bonus time right right. Yeah, but on Tuesday

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we were talking about college stuff, yes, and how much

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how my kids are under pressure right now because they're juniors.

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This is where they start. Just like, listen, I went

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through this already with LB two years in a row.

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You went through it with You're twins. Like enough already,

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I would like to skip the whole Like, look, next

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year a year.

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Speaker 1: I need a year off, you need a gap year.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to do the We don't have to

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do the applications. We didn't have to do applications. But

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they are really like on them about and also, and

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this is going to lead us into the Kailin story,

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but the kids are supposed to be knowing like what

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they want in a college. And as you remember too,

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like when you're a junior, you don't know what the

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fuck you want in a college? Like how are you

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supposed to know? First of all, they have to be

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making decisions. Do you want to bake school? Do you

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want a small school?

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Speaker 1: What do you want to study?

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Speaker 4: Wants?

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Speaker 1: She want trees? That's the one she knew that LB wanted.

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Speaker 4: Well, Lbie wanted to stay fairly close to home. Yeah,

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she wanted to keep the weather. I don't think she

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wanted to be I think a lot of her friends

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were looking at UC's and I don't think she was

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interested in going off to a different coast, right, Yeah,

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And we were happy with her trying to get into

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a UC because for the price, you know, as far

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as she wanted to go to a big school. So

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even though if you go to a smaller like Liberal

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Arts school, they're more apt to give you scholarships. And

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give you a discount, but she didn't. But those are

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usually smaller schools, not like big universities, so she knew

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she didn't want that. So that kind of narrowed our

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focus to like, Okay, we could go see some schools,

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but Sadie and Xander is like open to whatever, and

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I'm like, I'm not gonna do. We can't afford to

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go do a big East coast to go to a

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bunch of schools that you may or not not get into, right,

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So I'm just like, let's just wait. And but the

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schools all on them, like look up schools, look at

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Speaker 1: They want them to start looking at going on tours.

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Speaker 4: Going on tours. They want them to really like start

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researching colleges to see what they're interested in. My kids,

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Xander doesn't have any idea what he wants to do.

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He loves music, he likes theater. He's like, I don't

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know what to major and I have a lot of interests.

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Speaker 2: A lot of kids don't at that age. They don't

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know what the what they want to do.

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Speaker 4: But they really want kids to pick their major now

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before they start school. I feel like when I was younger,

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you could just apply for like Liberal arts. Yeah, but Kaylin,

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you had you they made you go on tours. We

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were talking about this on Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: They didn't make me go on tours. My school was

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very heavy into college prep, and like I was saying

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on Tuesday episode, every one of my school's very smart. Everyone.

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I had like one kid in my grade of seventy

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five got a perfect score on his SAT. Two other

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score on their SATs, and then I was coming back

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with like a fourteen twenty like okay, right, uh oh

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so yeah, they prepped a super heavy. Like junior year

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Speaker 1: Because you went to a private high school. Yeah yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: To Oakwood, which is like VERYI bougie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boujie artsy though it's not like you know, we

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could wear whatever clothes we wanted. We call it teach

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by our first name. It's like bujie but artsy.

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Speaker 4: It's the it's the valley's answer to crossroads, which was

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you must have known about crossroads.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds familiar. So they had done a an

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East Coast college tour and a lot of the kids

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went on it. They all talked about out going to

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all these thing together. They went to all these colleges

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together on the East Coast, and it sounded like fun,

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you know. They were talking about it afterwards and they're like, okay,

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now here's the program for the West Coast tour.

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Speaker 4: But you didn't want to go on the East Coast one.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to go on the East Coast one.

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I didn't even really want to go on the West

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we should tell you up. I was like, okay, well

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I'll just hang out with my friends and tour up

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and down California. Like that's fine, because that's all it was.

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It was just California on a bus.

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Speaker 4: I remember this story so well, and it's such a

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good story.

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Speaker 3: I'm exciting now, so and just to put a little

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perspective in it, like I was, and I am introverted,

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kind of anxious person. I'm not very outgoing. I was like,

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all right, I'll go on this West Coast tour. I'll

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see some friends that will be hanging out. So I

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drive down there, and I get there, it's.

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Speaker 4: That wait, wait but wait, you didn't have those specific

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friends that were going.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, but again, since my grade was so small,

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we were all kind of friends with every like we

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all knew everybody, right, you're none of my good friends

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were going, and like that was fine, I can hang out.

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Speaker 4: Why weren't they going?

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Speaker 3: Because we were Me and my friends were all the

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dumb ones, right, you know, I don't know. For whatever reason,

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none of my friends were.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they went on the East Coast one.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't remember. I think a couple of

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them might have. I'm not sure. I don't really remember.

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Speaker 4: All right, but you're like, cool, cool, it'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: It's like a week long, right, and it goes all

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up California and or the other way around, down to

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California and back up. And so I get there on

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the Monday morning or whatever, and it's all we all

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like private or is it Campbell Hole, It's one of

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those two. It's another one of those kind of private.

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arriving to go on the tour, and there's nobody from

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my school showing up. I was like, uh oh, and

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we're all like, all right, let's get on the bus. Now.

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so now I want to by myself. I know nobody

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and everybody else as friends that they you know, so

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they're all like I was like, oh great, this is

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this is gonna suck. I have to spend a week

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with these people I don't even know, and they're all

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like in their friend groups. So yeah, I got on

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't have gotten on the bus, I know, I would

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have been calling my mom. But you know, they didn't

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have cell phones.

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because I was gonna say, like in terms of like

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entertaining myself, like these days you could just sit there

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on your phone for a whole week and just do

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what every social media wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Like that back then, and they didn't have Wi Fi.

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Speaker 3: I had. It was like first generation iPhone had like

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just come out. We had Facebook, but it still wasn't

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even like a huge thing. So I didn't have a

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phone with my apps and everything to keep me busy.

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and that was it. And so yeah, we all got

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on the bus and we drove down to San Diego

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to tour you see San Diego and by the way too,

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like I'm super heavy into college trap and it's like okay,

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like I knew I was going to community college. Like

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it was pretty sure at that point that I was

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I was not getting into any of these you see

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San Diego, stan for you see San Francisco's like, I'm

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not fucking going to any of these schools.

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Speaker 4: That's hilarious, it.

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Speaker 3: Seemed, I think it was by the end of that

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trip that's solidified, like yeah, okay, we're doing We're doing

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san Monic Community College. Yeah we're hitting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the most tropical you're going to get.

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Speaker 5: At least.

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Speaker 3: I was like, there was like four other community college closer,

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nice community college, and it is. Samon Community was very

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nice and I liked it a lot, but I spent

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the extra time to drive there. But yeah, we started

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in San Diego. We went all the way up to

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Speaker 4: So wait, style don't skip over the juicy parts. No,

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but wait, so do you start making any friends who.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just told you I'm a loner, introvert, and they

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are already friends with each other.

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Speaker 4: So like nobody reached who are you?

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Speaker 3: What are you gonna say? By like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Did you have to share a room with another kid?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I think two or three other kids?

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Speaker 1: So did were you become friends with them?

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by like day three or four, I had like made

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a couple kind of friends. But yeah, there's a lot

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of days there I was just sitting by myself going

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're just at these schools, probably feel like

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you're crawling out of your skin, Like I don't care

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about this tour, youuring boring tour shit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I kind of liked touring some of

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the schools because it was still in the back of

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mind like, Okay, I'm not getting into Stanford, but this

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is what the experience is like, so I can find

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another one that's kind of close to this. Chapman was

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the one that I was going to apply to. Chapman

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and Loyola Marymount or the two, which I think we

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saw Loyola on the tour, but those were the two.

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the call just so you could like see what it

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would be like to go to college, right, But I

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knew I wasn't going to any of these schools, and

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so yeah, it was okay for the first few days,

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but then once we started getting up to like UC Berkeley,

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I was like, Okay, this fucking get me home already.

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I have like four more days till I can get

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back in my bed. This sucks.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's the most depressing, saddest thing. I can't

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And you're such a good kid. I would have called

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my mom and said, fucking come pick me up.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I was hoping, because we started in San Francisco.

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I was hoping that we could just swing through LA

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and I could just stop off and be like, I'm

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not going on the rest of this spy and then

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go away. But my mom was like, no, I fucking

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paid for you to fucking drive all the way to

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San francisc You're not doing that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, all my kids would have said, like, there's

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nobody I know on this thing. Nobody showed up. I'd

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been like, Okay, where are you, I'll come pick you up.

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But I feel bad because even like those little trips

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that you take, I'm sure you did this too, see

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me the one that they go to, what's the place

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that you take a little a ferry boat. You've gone

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their ziplining, Oh, Catalina, see me. It's called see me cim.

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It's like something institute of whatever. It's like a science trip.

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And all the kids went in. I believe it's sixth grade.

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an astro camp that your school has never did that, No,

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not there. There were like three different trips and Albie

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went and had a great time because she's outgoing and

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fun and likes everything. And then Xander had like an

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okay time, and Sadie cried the whole time, like got sick,

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she threw up, like she wanted to come home so bad,

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Speaker 1: It's like I'm sure she probably threw because didn't they.

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Speaker 4: Like, oh it'll be fine, like just go on the

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trip and it'll be fine, like and she was like

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traumatized by the time she got home for no reason.

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But she didn't want to do any of the activities.

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whole time. And I'm like, I wish I mean, would

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I have gone to get her. I don't know. Probably

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not in Catalina.

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Speaker 2: And Catalina because then you because you have to get

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on a faerry, you got to book the fairy get there.

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Speaker 4: So she had to tough it out. But I felt

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so bad.

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Speaker 2: She probably got sick going on that fairy because that

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fairy makes everybody sick.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody gets everybody's puking. I know of of it.

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Speaker 3: I know we did that that trip at my school

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and I loved it. It was great. That's where I

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first went scuba diving, which I later.

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Speaker 4: H everybody goes scuba diving, so you know you went there,

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you did that. I I was with.

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Speaker 3: My I was with my school, so that was cool.

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Speaker 4: I was with my friends, right, the whole school goes. Yeah,

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the whole grade goes, and like I said, and had fun.

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but there were lots of pictures of him with friends

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and like smiling and like it was fine. Yeah, Lbie

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had a blast because that's who she is. But LB

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will have a blast going to CVS, yes, right right,

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She'll come home going best ive ever. God, I got

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some new makeup, like you know whereas he goes city?

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Do you want to go to CVS? I don't know.

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Are you getting me some new mycellar water? Sure? Okay,

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I guess I don't know. Could you just go and

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bring me some back? Like you know, right, LB's go

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drive somewhere for five minutes. I'm in what time you

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want to go? Right now? Let me just get my shoes.

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But so it's like two opposite ends of the spectrum.

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Speaker 5: My kids.

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Speaker 2: Wait, they did the Pennsylvania trip. They went to Pennsylvania,

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right right?

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Speaker 1: Did that?

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Speaker 2: They went to see Amish country and then they went

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to all the landmarks in the city.

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Speaker 4: And you didn't you go as a chaperone? No oh wait,

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but they were trying to get you to go as

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a shaper.

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Speaker 2: Maybe probably, but I was like no, no, no, oh,

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Like yeah, like Sonny's best friend's dad was their chaperone? Yes, yeah, yeah,

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he had the boys and then Natalia was like one

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of her friends is mom. And then like I think,

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like Natalia got on the early flight, but Sonny's flight

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was delayed and they were at the airport for a

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long time something like that, something happened.

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Speaker 1: But but then, you know, they.

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Speaker 2: Do the thing where you can get online every day

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and like look at the pictures, like here's the pictures

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posting right, and I'm always trying to look for my kids, like, well, oh,

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I can see Sonny's ear in this picture. I never

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saw my kids like barely ever, Like where at my kids?

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Should I be worried because you can't talk to them.

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You can't like you know, they're not riding home. It's

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a quick tri it's not that long. They're gone for

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like a four days or something. But then like you

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go online, you want to see pictures of them, and

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they were never in any of the pictures.

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Speaker 4: It's so funny because LB with her cam mm hmmm.

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So starting at whatever she was eleven with the first

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time she went to sleep away camp, I was desperate.

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I was like an addict, like just looking for a

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little crumb of cocaine. With those pictures, every day they

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would release the pictures, and I'd all day long, you know,

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because it would be like in little patches and I

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would be like, oh my god, a picture of a

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picture of her. Oh my god, I could see elbe

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she looks like does she look like she does having fun?

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I like year eight of camp, I was like missing.

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I was like, oh, my friends would be like, oh

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the pictures. There's a bunch of pictures. I saw some

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of Lbie. I'd be like, oh cool. You just completely

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lose interest. I'm like, yeah, she's there having fun. I

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know what she looks like. Yeah, But those first couple

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of years, like, oh my god, she's been gone for

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three days. I haven't see her.

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Speaker 2: Face because, like they would get it was their first

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time on an airplane without me, yes, and it was

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the first time that they went away because my kids

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never had camp where they were so it was the

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first time they were on a trip and I could

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not talk to them. But you get the updates from school,

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like we've landed, we're here, everybody's fine, Like, but how

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do you know my kids in the group, How do

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you know my kid didn't get wandered off and is

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in the bathroom at the airport, like probably Sonny would

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be the stomach ache. Right, it could be in the

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bathroom while you guys are on halfway to your place

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you're staying. Yeah, you know, but so yeah, I remember

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being like that, going like I want to see pictures

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of my kids.

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's why parents that are sending their

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kids off to college for the first time, like you

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sending Sonny. You know, I'm kind of glad I just

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didn't have to go through that yet. Yeah, listen, it

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might happen, you know, Xander might. I don't think Sadie

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will happen with Sadie, but Xander might go away to

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school and then that's going to be pretty devastating. But

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I didn't have ever have to have that happen with LB, right.

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I know she thankful.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: I don't miss her. Yeah, it sounds so weird to say,

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but I'm happy for her when she's like at school

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and if I haven't talked to her in a couple

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of days, like I'll text her and just go like

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how are you. And the other day I had this

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just I just was missing her and I was having

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a weird sense about her. So I called her and

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she was like, hi, Mama, and I was like, oh no,

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what's wrong? And then something was wrong, like she was

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having a hard time. And then I felt like, oh,

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I have like a little bit of esp with her,

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because then she was like can I come home? And

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I was like, hell, yeah, I'm on my way. I'll

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come get you right now. And she was like thank you,

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and then she spent one night at home and then

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she went back the next night. So but I was

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I was so grateful to be able to like and

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you could do that with Natalia even though she's likers

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but if she was really having a hard time, she

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would just be like I need to come home for

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a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I feel bad for people who's I know,

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although it's right of passages. What all kids? Probably should you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean, you know, Sunny's out of state,

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but I don't really worry too much about him. I

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talked to him frequently on the phone. I can see

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where he is, yeah, always on my.

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Stacy Garcia. You have a podcast with our producer Kaylin. Uh,

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reiki practitioner, I lovewal and wellness. And then when I

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was diagnosed, I was like, Okay, like let's pivot and

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had like best case scenario and I leaned onto all this.

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So all of the guests that come on have all

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been survivors. So today it's Laura Cathcart Robins, who I

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think is a survivor. I'm on Survivors with Addiction and

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Speaker 4: She's been on our podcast's amazing Stash Stash.

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Speaker 1: She's a great best book.

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Speaker 4: She's a really good friend of mine.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, she's She's amazing. And then I had

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patient zero, Greg Garfield of COVID Days. He was the

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first patient in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: To LA Right, thank you Greg? Really?

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So it's just in. My best friend was on

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last week and she has a couple of kids that

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she's had to advocate for with special needs, and she

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had a father that passed away from brain cancer. And

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so it's just really you know how to care for

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yourself while you're going through something, or you know someone

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that's going through something. So it's turned into a season

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of like survivorship really, so it's been amazing.

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Speaker 4: So tell us, like, Okay, so you were doing all

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this stuff. I would love to hear just what happened.

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I know, you know, we have primarily female listeners. No

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offense to our male listeners, but a lot I think

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a lot of our listeners have been through that have

473
00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:41,839
been through a breast cancer diagnosis, and what was your

474
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,759
story with that.

475
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Speaker 5: It's a strange story how we found it, to be honest. So,

476
00:22:47,079 --> 00:22:49,759
I don't tend to remember my dreams all too often.

477
00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:53,039
And I had a nightmare that shook me to my

478
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,200
core where I literally jumped out of bed and like screamed,

479
00:22:56,759 --> 00:23:00,240
and my husband grabbed my chest and he was like

480
00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:02,160
putting me down to bed. He's like, you're okay, you

481
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,720
just had a nightmare, and he felt my lamp. Really yes,

482
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,519
So I immediately called got a mammogram for the following day.

483
00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:12,880
It came back clear. They're like, you don't have breast cancer.

484
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:16,000
And if I hadn't talked to other women that had

485
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,519
I wouldn't have known. Oh you got to advocate for

486
00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:23,759
an ultrasound, right, And so I advocated ultrasound came back. Yes,

487
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:26,759
there's something that they were worried about, but it was

488
00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:30,079
like a small chance of it being malignant. And then

489
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,160
I had a couple on the right too. They're like, oh,

490
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,039
those are totally benign. And with getting tested and then

491
00:23:36,079 --> 00:23:38,720
the biopsyne coming back, they're like, oh, you have cancer.

492
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,039
And then things moved so quickly, like.

493
00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:45,839
Speaker 2: So you went and had a mammogram and it was

494
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,119
like they said.

495
00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: You're fine.

496
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,839
Speaker 4: YEP, I would have never that extra Did you pay

497
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,160
for that extra special mammogram?

498
00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:58,599
Speaker 5: No, there's like the three D or the four.

499
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Speaker 4: D or something. I just had a I literally just

500
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,359
had a mammogram and got the results yesterday, and they

501
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,400
were like, do you want to pay forty dollars because

502
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,839
it's not covered by insurance to get this. AI looks

503
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,200
at it. It's a more effect. I don't know.

504
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,039
Speaker 5: I was like that, I'm gonna have to learn more

505
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:19,559
about that style. No, this was just a regular mammogram,

506
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,920
but I had ultra dense breast tissue. You do too, Okay,

507
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,599
so what does it say? It says at the very

508
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,039
bottom now because now there's there's been a lot that's

509
00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:32,279
past that says. Then you know, what does it say?

510
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,759
Do you remember what it said when you got your results?

511
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,519
Speaker 4: It said that you have a higher chance of getting

512
00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:41,160
breast cancer if you have dense breasts, and you may

513
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:44,519
need a better, better testing, like an ultrasound.

514
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 5: Well that's amazing. Mine didn't say that, Okay, so that's

515
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,920
what it should say. Then you should go and like

516
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,319
get an ultrasound and get because there's no perfect imaging, right,

517
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,799
So mammograms usually can't pick up ultra dense breast tissue,

518
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,240
any moli, nancy, any lumps. Okay, they just can't. So

519
00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:05,960
that's why ultrasounds are great. And now they're coming out

520
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,279
with radiation free testing because when you go for a mammogram,

521
00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:13,680
you're getting a doseer radiation, so it's like counterproductive, you know.

522
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,160
But yeah, mammogram did not pick up my lump at all.

523
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, so then what happened?

524
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,319
Speaker 1: So then you had to get an ultrasound.

525
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,039
Speaker 5: So I got the ultrasound and that's when they saw it.

526
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,839
And they saw two on the right, and then they

527
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:30,880
did a biopsy on the one and they were like, Okay,

528
00:25:31,559 --> 00:25:34,079
you have cancer. I found out a week later, the

529
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,160
day after I already had an appointment with my surgeon.

530
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:39,839
My sister took me, and she knows me so well.

531
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,680
As soon as I got into her car, she put

532
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,440
on a meditation. I closed my eyes and then we

533
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,599
got to the surgeons. I was so centered. Without that,

534
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,480
I think I would have been tail spinning. I even

535
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,559
asked my surgeon, can I like record this so I

536
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:55,039
can go home and listen to it. And I'm sure

537
00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:57,000
i'man to miss stuff and he wasn't comfortable with that.

538
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,480
But I had my sister, and you have to bring

539
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:02,480
someone with you as a second set of ears. And

540
00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:04,440
I knew then and there in that office I was

541
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,119
having a bilateral mistectomy. I was like, it's time to remove.

542
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,400
I've been blessed with having two children. I got to

543
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,279
nurse them. I want to be around for them. I

544
00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:15,119
want to be around for me, And so I decided

545
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,240
to be really aggressive because they kind of give you,

546
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,160
they lay out your choices. You can have a lump

547
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,440
back to me but then you're gona have to have radiation.

548
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:25,279
And my lump was right over my heart. And I've

549
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:28,599
known too many people that have had radiation on their

550
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,599
chest that now have heart issues for the rest of

551
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,240
your life. So it's talking to the right people and

552
00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:36,400
kind of doing your own research. And I'm like, I

553
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:38,960
just want to remove and that's what I did. And

554
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,920
it was the hardest surgery to recover from, but I'm

555
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,839
so glad that I did, and then I'd have a

556
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,680
second one for my reconstruction. Like four months ago, I'm

557
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,599
still recovering from. I'm inpt. It's like it's such a

558
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,799
long process, but thank god.

559
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: So because you did that, did that mean you didn't

560
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,319
have to have chemo or radiation?

561
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,599
Speaker 5: So this is another advancement in breast cancer, which is amazing.

562
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:07,319
They can test your tumor to see what the reoccurrence

563
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,920
rate will be. So my reoccurrence rate was so low

564
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,839
that I did not need chemotherapy would have done more

565
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:16,359
harm than good, which was like, oh my god. Ten

566
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,400
years ago women would just have to have it no

567
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,400
matter what. So that to me was everything to know

568
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,960
I wasn't going to lose, you know, my quality of

569
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,119
life going through this and then they kind of are like, oh,

570
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,400
but you're gonna be on this chemo pill for five years.

571
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,200
To Moxifin, it's no big deal type of a thing.

572
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,119
It kicked my ass, like it was so horrendous. I

573
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:43,079
lasted four months. I was having vertigo, nausea. Do you

574
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:46,119
remember like the extreme COVID fatigue, like you can't get

575
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,279
out of bed? I had that every single day.

576
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: Were you having to take the pill every day?

577
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:51,599
Speaker 5: Pill every day?

578
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: Wow?

579
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:54,519
Speaker 4: So you would have had to feel like that for

580
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:56,400
five years? There's no getting used to it.

581
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 5: Yes, and get this. This is when I finally went

582
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,880
back to my in collegist. I'm like, I can't do this,

583
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:02,960
Like this is literally killing me. It puts you at

584
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,720
higher risk for blood clot stroke and other cancers. And

585
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,519
I was like, if this is if I'm if it's

586
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:12,359
not coming back, why am I doing this to myself?

587
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:16,279
And who's funding this study? Like what if I decide

588
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:18,480
not to does my four percent go to five percent

589
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,000
or does it go to fifteen percent?

590
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:20,759
Speaker 4: I don't know.

591
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 5: Timoxafin funds it, so it's big farm of funding all

592
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,960
of this. And I asked him, I'm like, in your opinion.

593
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,440
You've been on call just for twenty years. When do

594
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,720
you see my type of cancer hormone positive come back

595
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,400
if it does, He's like, ten to twenty years. I said, oh,

596
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,759
so five years of taking this struggle will do nothing

597
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:44,079
for me. He's like, you're right. So I am now

598
00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:49,200
with a homeopathic doctor on natural remedies, and I couldn't.

599
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,960
I literally feel better than I did pre cancer diagnosis.

600
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,559
Speaker 1: So when were you diagnosed?

601
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:58,759
Speaker 5: The mayor of twenty twenty four. May six of twenty twenty, Wow,

602
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:02,759
that not long, not a year ago. And then June sixth,

603
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,839
exactly a month later, I had a mistectomy.

604
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

605
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:15,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, so tell us about like how I mean, you

606
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,680
knew right away though that this was curable, Yes, right,

607
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:22,440
thank god? But you still had to tell your kids?

608
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 5: Oh my god. Yes, of course that was the hardest

609
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,960
part because I'm so close to my children. I wanted

610
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,720
to tell them immediately. And my husband was the exact opposite,

611
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:36,440
because my husband, unfortunately grew up with a sick parent,

612
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,039
and he's like, we don't need to tell them because

613
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:40,799
we don't know. We don't know my stage, we don't

614
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,839
know my treatment plan, we don't know. And so I

615
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,319
ended up talking to a social worker and she just

616
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:48,160
gave me lots of videos of like how do you

617
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,839
tell your kids? I had a really good friend that

618
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,759
recently went through it gave me a lot of books

619
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,480
and I was trying to figure out the best way,

620
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:57,720
and I decided I need something. I just need to

621
00:29:57,759 --> 00:29:59,559
tell them what they need to know, Like I don't

622
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:02,240
need to go a major detail, and I want to

623
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:06,039
present something really fun to do afterwards. So we went

624
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,200
we were gonna go to the Hollywood Bowl that night

625
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:12,279
to see the Lion King the like anniversary. So I

626
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:14,759
sat them down with my husband and I said, hey, kids,

627
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,000
mommy has something called breast cancer. Doctors say, I'm going

628
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:21,920
to be totally fine. I'm just gonna have surgery, and

629
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:24,319
you know, I'm gonna need your help around the house.

630
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:27,519
And I made it, you know, as fun and upbeat

631
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:30,240
as possible, because that's the truth. I didn't know what

632
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,440
was exactly going to happen. I didn't know on my stage.

633
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,359
But the doctors are like, you are going to be okay.

634
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,119
You know you got this early, like thank god, and

635
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,279
they were like okay. Like after a few days, they

636
00:30:42,359 --> 00:30:48,119
absolutely started asking more questions and strangely enough, the second surgery,

637
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720
the reconstruction, my baby, my eight year old, was having

638
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:53,240
a really hard time crying all the time. I want

639
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,799
normal mommy back because he couldn't cuddle me, he couldn't

640
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:59,640
be so close to me, and that killed him. But

641
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,759
with my first surgery, I was like, Okay, let me

642
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,799
dig into my support system. Let me find friends that

643
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:09,599
are willing to take the kids every single day, because

644
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,400
they my surgery was their second to last day of

645
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,319
school for the summer. Oh so then timing couldn't have

646
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:17,920
been better. And they had camp like a week and

647
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,920
a half later. But I had to fill those times and.

648
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: Say, that sounds like bad timing because like then they're

649
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:24,359
home all day hanging out.

650
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: I had a friend pick them up every single day

651
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,920
and take them and they did something different with different

652
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,200
friends every day. They had a support system, which was nice.

653
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,359
Speaker 1: She keeps their mind off of things. And how old

654
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:36,200
are your kids?

655
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: My son is eight, my daughter's eleven. Okay, yeah, so

656
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:42,279
fifth grade and second grade and they were a year

657
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:45,279
younger when all this happened. So and I asked them

658
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:47,839
today like the silver linings as we talk about that,

659
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,119
and they're like the community the friends. They were just

660
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,960
felt so supported by their friends and their friend's parents

661
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,839
and everything. It was so amazing.

662
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:01,119
Speaker 2: You're eleven year old is on your Instagram and interviewing

663
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,640
her and she's so cute.

664
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,839
Speaker 1: Like, what have you learned since mommy is? You know?

665
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,400
Had is that? I don't know how you said it.

666
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,920
She's like, I learned how to do the laundry.

667
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,359
Speaker 4: That's right. God. Yeah.

668
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 5: And now she's still Tuesday nights she makes smash burger.

669
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:19,799
She makes like burger buls for us. She now knows

670
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:20,319
how to cook.

671
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

672
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: So like, hello, it's amazing silver light. Yeah right, yeah,

673
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,440
she's so proud of herself for it. She still does

674
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,160
it every week.

675
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:30,319
Speaker 1: That's so cute, so sweet, it's amazing.

676
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,519
Speaker 4: Recently I do Hello fresh okay sometimes And recently I

677
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:39,480
asked my daughter who's seventeen, Hey, I have to teach

678
00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:40,720
Mommy has to teach class.

679
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:40,839
Speaker 3: Why.

680
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:42,519
Speaker 4: I didn't say it like that because she's seventeen, but

681
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,240
I said, I have to teach class. How about like

682
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:49,160
you've just follow the recipe and like make dinner. And

683
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:55,039
she was like, no, thanks, no stepping up in my house.

684
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:58,599
She was like, I'm really tired. And have homework, and

685
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,640
I was like, okay, nevermind, do it as soon as

686
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,359
I'm unfinished. So you're lucky.

687
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:05,039
Speaker 5: I'm so lucky and I know that for sure.

688
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: They both, Yeah, you what do you do for a living?

689
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,519
Is is your holistic coach?

690
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,599
Speaker 5: Yes?

691
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: And you do a lot of meditating.

692
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: You're doing, you know, the reiky thing, and that's what

693
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:19,839
you were doing.

694
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 5: I actually was a personal trainer for fifteen years. My

695
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,960
husband owned a gym and so I worked there for

696
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,480
fifteen years. We ended up closing a week before my

697
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:37,119
surgery completely like it just wasn't like coincidental, it just

698
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:41,200
was time to do that. So thankfully I didn't have

699
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,279
to rush to get back to work and I got

700
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,119
to really heal, which was an amazing gift to have.

701
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,480
Not everyone has that. And then during my recovery, my

702
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:54,039
sister gifted me two reiki sessions and I started going,

703
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,559
like two weeks into my recovery, I'm like, what is this?

704
00:33:56,559 --> 00:34:00,279
This is like amazing. I've never felt so calm. I've

705
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:03,240
been a meditator my whole life, but this is like

706
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:04,960
just a different level.

707
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: It is the reki because they don't they don't touch

708
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,440
you right like they don't put their hands.

709
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 5: On and some is light touch, some is like covering. Yeah,

710
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,840
but it's like life force energy, and it's something we

711
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,519
all have. I've just been learned. I've just been taught

712
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,679
how to utilize it. I'm like a vessel giving someone

713
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,880
energy and then they kind of give it back. It's

714
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,559
like this full circle. So I feel invigorated, but I

715
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,960
could kind of feel like in the chakras where energy

716
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:36,679
is really you know, tight, if there's even an injury,

717
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,119
a physical injury, it can help that, or just you

718
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:43,280
could feel really relaxed. I give reykey to my family

719
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:43,960
all the time.

720
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,199
Speaker 1: Wow, that's zah.

721
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: And what did your husband so you close the gym

722
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,400
before your surgery and then was he doing something else?

723
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 5: Yes, So, strangely enough, a couple of years before that,

724
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,280
he got into dog training as well, and so he

725
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,800
went training humans to training dogs overnight. And he's been

726
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,880
able to do that out of the house. So luckily

727
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,360
he was home with me. So there was a lot

728
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,639
of weird silver linings at the timing of all of

729
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:12,000
it too.

730
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,639
Speaker 4: So he was trying to build a new business.

731
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,079
Speaker 5: Yes, he was wearing a lot of hats, caring for

732
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:21,880
the kids, the business me. I had caregivers like family

733
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,280
and friends coming in and out because I couldn't even

734
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,239
feed myself for a very long time. I had no

735
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,440
use of my arms.

736
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 4: Oh really, Oh it was awful. Yeah, because of this,

737
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,800
because of the pain.

738
00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 5: So when you realize just lifting a fork you're using

739
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:45,199
chest muscles, I was raw. It was so incredibly painful.

740
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,440
So people needed to come and help me, like live.

741
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: Much yeah real, Yeah, that's amazing. But the show started

742
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,039
about friendships and how well, I mean, that's the first

743
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:06,960
thing you rely on when you get a diagnosis like

744
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,519
this is to you have to have your support team,

745
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:12,920
especially in your kids, for your kids, for you, you know,

746
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:15,199
So how how was that?

747
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: What was that? Like? That was?

748
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting because certain people you feel like

749
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,599
are going to be the first ones there were not.

750
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,840
And then I had other friends that I didn't expect

751
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,920
to step up, such as Laura Cathcott Robin. She's a

752
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,519
very dear friend. But the way she stepped up was

753
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:36,199
like unreal to me, just out of you know, out

754
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,400
of the box, stepping up for me checking Oh my god,

755
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,760
your meal trained someone forgot this day. I'm bringing you

756
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,519
food this day, Like it was just so unbelievable. So

757
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:49,199
it was massively disappointing with the friendships that didn't follow through.

758
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,760
And I not only was grieving losing body parts, but

759
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,760
I was losing friends at the same time. It was

760
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,840
a lot of grief and the reiki therapy, friends, family

761
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,639
really helped me through it. But I tried hard to

762
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:11,280
focus on those that were really surprising me and really

763
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,800
like stood up. And I had mom friends that kind

764
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,039
of all together like came to my home and like

765
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:20,639
they gave me like five hundred bucks, like here, have

766
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,679
a housekeeper come and help you out for as long

767
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,719
as you need. Like it was just like, oh my god,

768
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,639
that one. No, but like it definitely it definitely helped

769
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:36,639
come twice, right, But it definitely was something you know,

770
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,280
just thinking of, like what can we do for Stacy

771
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,440
without her asking?

772
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 3: You know.

773
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,119
Speaker 5: It was so incredibly kind and sweet.

774
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: But so somebody that you were very close to though

775
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:50,039
didn't show up. Like I want to hear about that

776
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,320
because I had a friendship breakup and you're like, yeah,

777
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,519
not friends with somebody, and you called it something I

778
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:57,599
thought it was so interesting.

779
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 5: Well for me, it's called cancer ghosting because that's what

780
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,920
I had I was like, why is this happening? Does

781
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,559
this happen to other people during like a big life

782
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:09,639
altering event? And so and I even talked about it

783
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:12,400
with Laura and on the podcast that came out today.

784
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,719
With Laura, I was like, God, when you're going through recovery,

785
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,320
are you losing friends? Like maybe these were friends used

786
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,079
to drink with all of a sudden, you're not drinking.

787
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,440
Are they not asking you, you know, hang out anymore?

788
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,400
She was like, no, but it was really with divorce.

789
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:29,119
She lost a lot of friends, And so I think

790
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,239
it's any kind of life experience. For me, it was

791
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,519
cancer and I didn't know if it was triggering. I

792
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:37,039
didn't know. I think some people don't know how to

793
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,639
be there, and I think some people get really scared

794
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,840
for whatever reason and just kind of are not available

795
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,360
to Like they were too busy, they were doing other

796
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,119
things with their family and they and I just felt

797
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,360
like I wasn't a priority in the time I needed

798
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,840
them the most. And it was a killer.

799
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,199
Speaker 4: Did you have like, but there was one specific friend

800
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,280
right that you were like really close with? Yeah, did

801
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,920
you ever tell that person like, day, this sucks? What happened?

802
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 5: I finally woke up one day and I was like,

803
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,199
I just need like I had said in text messages,

804
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,840
like I need you can we please get together? And

805
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,320
it like it was just ghosting until finally I had

806
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,000
to pick up the phone and be like, I am

807
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:23,519
so hurt, like so hurt. What is going on? Could

808
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:25,320
it be excellent? And I just didn't get the answers

809
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,880
I want. I just got I'm just too busy. And

810
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,400
that just killed me. It just absolutely killed me.

811
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: That's insane.

812
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:36,039
Speaker 4: And so what did you do? Did you just go Okay, well,

813
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:37,760
I'm gonna need to take a step back.

814
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I said. I said I need time

815
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,800
because the conversation was just going in circles and I

816
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,039
wasn't getting what I needed. All I needed to hear

817
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,119
was I messed up. I'm sorry, like I'll be there

818
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:53,119
for you because I was still recovering. This wasn't like

819
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,880
I had cancer years ago. You know, it just and

820
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,119
by the way, after you have cancer, it's like you're

821
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,840
always doing what you can so it doesn't come back.

822
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,639
It's always in the back of your mind.

823
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:05,159
Speaker 1: You know.

824
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,119
Speaker 5: It's not like you go back to normal, you go

825
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,760
to your new normal. But this was like three months

826
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,960
after my double mastectomy, and I just said, ah, yeah,

827
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,679
I need a step back. And I said, I hope

828
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,519
one day you can, you know, put yourself in my position.

829
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,480
I can heal a little bit and we can have

830
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:25,039
a great conversation and move forward. And that never happened.

831
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:26,920
She never reached out to me again ever.

832
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 4: Again.

833
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,079
Speaker 5: It was little text here and there, but not like

834
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,320
to heal anything. And now I don't hear from her

835
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,639
at all.

836
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

837
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I had I wonder when at if. I mean,

838
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:44,039
I feel like we've talked about this a lot. I

839
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,920
had a friend, because you were saying before we started

840
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,719
recording that this was a friend of like thirty years,

841
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,679
and I had a friend of thirty years. It was

842
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,880
a little different because she has mental health issues, but

843
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:00,880
it was a lot of me kind of taking care

844
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,519
of her and being like and no, not that I

845
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:13,159
needed the reciprocity, but it was more like at a

846
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,039
certain point, you just feel like you're kind of being abused,

847
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:19,239
you know, and you're like, I can't just base this

848
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,960
relationship on legacy, you know, there has to be some

849
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,000
sort of like I can't be the only one that

850
00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:30,800
is seen, like you don't get to just be an

851
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,360
asshole and go, well, I have this mental illness. It's like, oh,

852
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,760
absolutely not okay, but I allow for so much and

853
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,360
put up with so much, and then I would get like,

854
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,599
I'm so I would get a sorry, but after the

855
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:48,440
fact there'd be like an episode and then really a

856
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,199
lot of abuse, and then I would get like sorry

857
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:53,960
about that. I was like in an episode and I'd

858
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,880
be like, oh, okay, And at a certain point I

859
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,760
was like, yeah, I'm so sorry. I can't, like, you

860
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,960
can't just do this and be abusive and tell people

861
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:07,599
your friends that I'm evil or like, and then later

862
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,599
go like yeah, I was really out of my mind.

863
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:13,880
Well sorry, like, and it just came a point where

864
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,679
it wasn't like a a big fight or anything, but

865
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,599
I was like, I can't. I can't keep doing this cycle.

866
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:20,480
I'm so sorry.

867
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:23,599
Speaker 5: But like, have you read The Let Them Theory by

868
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:28,960
Mel Robbins. No, it's a must read, Okay, So I

869
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,599
read that that came out I think it was Christmas

870
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:34,719
Eve this last year, and I read it right away

871
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:38,280
and that helped so much with taking the guilt out.

872
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,239
So it's pretty much the book about you've got to

873
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,239
let people do what they're going to do. But the

874
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,840
let it's let them and let me, and it's how

875
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,119
you're going to react and how you're going to set

876
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:52,119
your boundaries is really the most important, right And one

877
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,239
quote there was like that really took the guilt out

878
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,920
of really the personal attack was people can only meet

879
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,760
you as far as they've met themselves. Like, sit on

880
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,639
that for a second. Yeah, so why are you expecting

881
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,960
someone to meet you where they haven't done the personal work, right?

882
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,559
And so that was kind of like, oh, I'm never

883
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,079
going to get what I want, so I need to

884
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,079
do the let me and I need to take a

885
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:23,440
step back to protect. So it's kind of going through

886
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,519
a healing journey where it's like a lot of women

887
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,840
do that where they over extend, over extend, and if

888
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,920
you just pull away and you realize that person's not

889
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,719
meeting you, oh man, that wasn't a real friendship, was it?

890
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: Well?

891
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,079
Speaker 4: You know what I think a lot of women do.

892
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,679
A lot of us have people pleasing tendencies, right, yes,

893
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,760
and then we people please and people please, and we're

894
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,320
scared of people being mad at us. But then resentment

895
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,639
builds because we're like, why am I doing all this?

896
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,320
Stuff for other people and worried about their feelings so

897
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,679
much and they're not worried about mine. That's right, right,

898
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,239
And then you start getting pissed, right, and then all

899
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,440
of a sudden you're mad and they're like, whoa, you're crazy,

900
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,400
Like I never signed up for that, or you know.

901
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:07,119
I was noticing that in My daughter, who's in college,

902
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,920
was recognizing that in herself because she was getting upset

903
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,159
with a person that I was like, but you never

904
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,320
told you never made those boundaries. You allowed and allowed

905
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,760
and allowed this behavior, and now you're really mad and

906
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,239
it built up and then you yelled, which is very

907
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,360
unlike her. And she's like, I'm so scared of people

908
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,840
being mad at me. I have to stop being scared.

909
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,639
I not everyone needs to like me. And I was like, yes,

910
00:44:32,199 --> 00:44:34,679
you're allowed to be an asshole. Sometimes you're allowed to

911
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,920
say what you need.

912
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but it's hard if it goes against your nature.

913
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 5: Yes, your nature is.

914
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: To like kind of just be the.

915
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: People pleaser, I guess, or like just kind of like

916
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,840
you know, there's always one there. Like I had a

917
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,960
friend in my life that she went through a bad

918
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,840
divorce way before I went through my divorce, and she

919
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,760
I tried to be there for her, and a bunch

920
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,079
of other friends were trying to be there for her,

921
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,199
but she kept pushing us away because she really wanted to.

922
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,159
Speaker 1: She felt.

923
00:45:11,199 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: So she was so bitter, she did not want the

924
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,400
divorce and that we all continued on with our friends

925
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,320
with her ex husband stuff like that.

926
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: So she was she got.

927
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:23,559
Speaker 2: Really but then she got remarried and then she was fine.

928
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:25,719
But then as soon as she and but I didn't

929
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,199
hear for her for years, but as soon as she

930
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:29,480
heard I was getting a divorce, it was like misery

931
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,920
loves company and she wanted to reach out to me.

932
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:36,119
And then like like, ah, doesn't divorce suck? And it's like, well,

933
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,039
I mean my divorce wasn't like your divorce. It's actually

934
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:43,320
nothing is this like we're not we don't have anything

935
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,679
in common with our divorces the different reasons.

936
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, as soon as it's just.

937
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: Like one of those people that like misery loves company

938
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,719
kind of thing. Yes, I don't know if you've experienced that,

939
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,320
like if you have other people I don't know, having

940
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,199
cancer diagnosis, maybe like feeling like they do, you know,

941
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,960
didn't want to reach out or didn't want you know,

942
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:08,000
to be a burden or something, but then came back

943
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,960
later when they found out you had cancer.

944
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 5: I didn't have too much of that.

945
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: You know what you're gonna have though, tell me you're

946
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,079
gonna have the ones that really weren't there for you.

947
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:21,800
But then later they're gonna get diagnosed with breast cancer

948
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,840
and they're gonna be like, hey, sorry, I really wasn't

949
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,239
there for you. I didn't get it, but like now

950
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,239
I have, like you, what should I do? What did

951
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,800
you eat? What doctors did you go to? What treat there?

952
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,800
All of a sudden gonna be super interested, right, I.

953
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,119
Speaker 5: Mean, it's gonna happen. It's like when in every seven

954
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:40,760
or eight women get diagnosed with breast can and men too.

955
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:43,239
The men listening, like it can happen to men too.

956
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,360
It's rare, but it happens, you know, and it's happening

957
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,559
so frequently, so I don't doubt that possibly happening at

958
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:50,039
some point.

959
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you're gonna be like mad, but you're

960
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:56,519
gonna go like, oh, I get it. You're gonna have empathy.

961
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,239
I will.

962
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: Should we take a quick break? All right, we're back.

963
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:07,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it is so interesting, like when you go

964
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:11,320
through an experience, it probably for you too, you know,

965
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,639
when you're facing like even though you weren't told you're

966
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:17,119
not going to survive, but I'm sure there it's just

967
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:20,039
a scary, like, right, you don't know one hundred percent,

968
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:23,480
you don't know, especially when you don't know how involved

969
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:27,960
it is. What you know, like, that's something that's really profound,

970
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,960
I'm sure for you, and changes you're thinking about things

971
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:33,000
and changes what like what's important.

972
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: Absolutely that was huge. So the day I was diagnosed,

973
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,360
I was like, oh my god, it's like you completely changed.

974
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,360
When I went to go see Wicked in the theaters

975
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,840
and the last song to find Gravity when Cinthia Reva

976
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,119
comes out and she talks about something has changed within me,

977
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,719
it was like water works, like immediately, and I was like,

978
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,320
I feel that so hard. It's like I immediately changed

979
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,679
the month from diagnosis to surgery. I'd not know what

980
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:03,679
stage I was. That was scary as all hell. And

981
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,199
then I had to wait like five days for the

982
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,159
lab results to come back, like the pathology of like okay,

983
00:48:09,159 --> 00:48:12,519
you're officially stage one, thank god. Then a few days

984
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:16,159
later like I don't think you're gonna need chemo your reoccurrence.

985
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:17,880
I was like, thank God. So I remember just like

986
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,199
sitting on the couch waiting for these calls and just

987
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,800
celebrating these wins. And so my birthday was a month later,

988
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,880
and I was like I need to have a party,

989
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,719
like I need to like thank God on cancer free party.

990
00:48:30,159 --> 00:48:32,119
And those friends like that didn't show up to that

991
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,119
in certain things, and it was just like, how do

992
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:37,079
you not show up to something like that? Like it

993
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,000
was you know, And I did change because I was like,

994
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,679
don't don't ever sweat the small stuff, but also create

995
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,280
those boundaries so that big stuff does not come in

996
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,119
and eat you up. Because any woman you talk to

997
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,239
that has been diagnosed, they'll tell you the year before

998
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,400
their diagnosis was probably the most stressful year of their life.

999
00:48:57,119 --> 00:48:59,440
I thought I was doing everything right. I was like,

1000
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,280
how am I three and have breast cancer? I am vegetarian.

1001
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,119
I'm pretty much vegan. I just eat pasture raised eggs,

1002
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:09,679
I exercise every day, I meditate. I'm like, what am

1003
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,320
I doing wrong? Is the way I was handling my stress.

1004
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,760
I'm almost positive over that, And that's where the reiki

1005
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,039
like really helped. But yeah, you can go crazy like

1006
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:21,280
Oh my god, I'm doing all these things. I'm so healthy.

1007
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,159
How does this happen? So it does make you definitely

1008
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,320
shift your mindset.

1009
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,559
Speaker 4: Well, how do you think you were handling your stress badly?

1010
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 5: I think it was internalized, Like I think I would

1011
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:34,239
meditate in the morning and go about my day not

1012
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,800
realizing maybe I was holding my breath a lot. What

1013
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,559
I you know, like the thoughts coming through all the time.

1014
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:43,679
It just nowadays I'm more mindful about how I am

1015
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,440
throughout the entire day. If I start feeling getting worked up,

1016
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,840
I stop and I just like breathe for a few minutes.

1017
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,280
I wasn't doing that before. I self heal. I can

1018
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,039
do self healing on myself with raiki every single day too,

1019
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,719
So I'm very conscious. I now probably meditate around a

1020
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,599
half an hour a day as opposed to maybe used

1021
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:03,519
to be ten minutes and like throughout the day. But

1022
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:06,960
it has it has definitely changed. I mean even exercise.

1023
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,760
I now like forest bathe, I go hike as much

1024
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,800
as I can, and I'm out in nature as opposed

1025
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,320
to hitting the gym. You know, it's lowthier.

1026
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: So if it's still crazy to me that the way

1027
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,440
you the way you found out it isn't it wild? Yeah,

1028
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,119
so you didn't have any there's no symptom.

1029
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,639
Speaker 4: That's basically your husband just felt you up.

1030
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 5: It's exactly what happened, and I'm forever grateful for.

1031
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: That is What did the doctor say, what if that

1032
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,719
didn't have? Like did you have the.

1033
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 5: Scary part about breast cancer? So if you're not doing

1034
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,679
self exams, I wasn't. It wasn't on my radar. I

1035
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,840
go in for my mammogram once a year, but it

1036
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,000
never would have got it. So then it was like,

1037
00:50:49,079 --> 00:50:51,599
oh my god, could you imagine that's that's the scary

1038
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:55,639
part of breast cancer when it's advanced so dramatically. I

1039
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,639
was so lucky that it was caught so early. So

1040
00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:00,760
it's like women like feel yourself up in the shower,

1041
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,760
like you got to see if there's any kind of

1042
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,840
changes happening, because I could feel it with my hand.

1043
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,920
That's the best way to know if there's anything. There

1044
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,000
is no pain or anything, no pain, nothing.

1045
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: It's so weird you could feel it with your hand,

1046
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,840
and yet the mammogram didn't. How could a marmigram not

1047
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,239
see something that you can actually feel.

1048
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 5: Because a mammogram it's like everything is like white.

1049
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: It's dense.

1050
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 5: It's dense, and if you have dense breast issue, nothing

1051
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,960
is going to show through that like your breast, their

1052
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,880
denseness is going to hide your lumps. So that's why

1053
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,280
they now, thank god, there's a law pass saying, like,

1054
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,000
you have this dense breast issue, you need to go

1055
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,199
find other modalities of finding out. Ultrasounds are great and

1056
00:51:43,199 --> 00:51:46,239
there's sound waves, there's no radiation, but they're not going

1057
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,719
to be covered, you know, like mammograms are. But spend

1058
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,800
the extra whatever it is, seventy five bucks and get

1059
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,760
the ultrasounds too. And some some people even do that

1060
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,239
and they switch off every year. Mammogram ultrasound.

1061
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: Interesting the ultrasound your obg y n No, it was

1062
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,679
like a radiologist, okay, yeah, but it was so concerning

1063
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:10,360
when I found two on the right, when they said

1064
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,360
they're benign, and then when the pathology results came back,

1065
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,800
my doctors like, thank god, you listen to your body

1066
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,719
and remove both because they were already almost pre cancerous.

1067
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,199
Like I was going to have to do it all again,

1068
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,280
and I did not want to deal with that.

1069
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:29,199
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting, since we're ostensibly a parenting podcasting

1070
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,280
or not anymore. But the amount of care and prevention

1071
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,159
and that we will do for our kids, yes, right,

1072
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,280
that we don't do for ourselves. Like I rarely go

1073
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,000
to the dentist enough, and yet I complain about my teeth,

1074
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:47,599
but like I don't go for regular check ups, but

1075
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,960
my kids like luck work. Yeah, you know, my kids

1076
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,920
get physicals every year. My kids get like all the

1077
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,440
things I do. Go get my pap smear and get

1078
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,760
my mammogram every year. Okay, but just because I get

1079
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,519
minded about it and because it's once a year, but

1080
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,880
imagine all the things my kids with their therapy. But

1081
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,519
we come last on our list as we should.

1082
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't had a mammogram in a while, okay, God.

1083
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 5: But I do have to as here, I do have.

1084
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: I do have one on the book scheduled in like

1085
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,679
three weeks from now. Okay, So but now I'm like,

1086
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,519
should I have the ultrasound? Should schedule I would ask

1087
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:24,800
for it?

1088
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1089
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think you could see you could find things

1090
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,440
a lot easier through that. But do you know if

1091
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,119
you have done breast tissue? I do, yeah, and most

1092
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:37,880
women do. That's the crazy thing. It's like, why are

1093
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,719
we so outdated this mammogram? And I do know there's

1094
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,079
this integrative oncologists in the East Coast where she's developed

1095
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:50,199
a radiation free like mammogram. It's like a really great imaging,

1096
00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:52,119
but it's only in two of the states right now,

1097
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:54,679
so it's like everyone needs to catch up and get

1098
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,280
on board and have like safer, healthier ways of.

1099
00:53:58,639 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hate putting my boob in that machineful.

1100
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:03,480
It's all the worst feeling.

1101
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 5: And I'll never have to do it again.

1102
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 2: I know, I'm always afraid an earthquake is gonna happen

1103
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,079
my boob is stuck in the machine.

1104
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 4: That is a weird fear, it is.

1105
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 5: I like, it's very.

1106
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: Random, like hold your breath. I'm like, okay, what if

1107
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,559
there's an earthquake then.

1108
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 5: They probably just have to retake it. But yeah, I

1109
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:23,360
know you think about those things when you're.

1110
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,679
Speaker 1: Like the power shuts down.

1111
00:54:26,159 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 5: Oh, that would be even worse. Yeah, like getting stuck

1112
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:31,239
in an elevator, getting stuck in a mammogram machine.

1113
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: Yah, imagine my worst nightmare.

1114
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,519
Speaker 4: These mammogram texts too, can be so grouchy. They can

1115
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:40,400
they're nice, but sometimes they're just like they don't want

1116
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,079
to be there right, and then they're like okay. They

1117
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,360
act like you don't know what you're doing when you're like, yeah,

1118
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,960
I don't know what i'm doing. I do this once

1119
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,039
a year. I'm sorry. I forgot in between their like

1120
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,519
stand no to the side, to the more to the side,

1121
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:55,199
face me, put your arm here on this handle, and

1122
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,320
you're like hold your bread right, And then I get

1123
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,880
really tense about having to hold my brea for sure.

1124
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,000
I'm like I started like higher ventilating a little bit

1125
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:05,559
and then they're like okay, and hold it, and I'm

1126
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:07,920
like I didn't get a good breathen and then you

1127
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,400
get worried you're gonna have to hold it for too long.

1128
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:12,360
And then they're like okay, breathe and you're.

1129
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:18,039
Speaker 1: Like very it is very, very racking.

1130
00:55:18,199 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

1131
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 4: So I just had a mammogram, like I was telling you,

1132
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:26,000
just literally like a week ago. And so they it's

1133
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:28,079
like a cattle call, right. There's like a bunch of

1134
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:29,960
you and you're sitting there right, and then they go

1135
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,400
go in this room and you're gonna put on a gown,

1136
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,559
but they give it the instructions like super fast. They

1137
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:36,639
go go in the room, put on the gown. Then

1138
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:39,719
you're gonna go into this You're gonna lock your valuables

1139
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,000
in this thing. And then the instructions are really crazy,

1140
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,719
and the last one I was like, you know what,

1141
00:55:46,519 --> 00:55:48,360
I'm not doing that. I'm just gonna take my purse

1142
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,719
with me for you who go check me boo, come

1143
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,280
for me. I don't care. I'm keeping my purse with me.

1144
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,039
I'm not No, the man is not going to keep

1145
00:55:57,039 --> 00:55:59,840
me down. And sure enough there were other people that

1146
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,360
we like, wait, my stuff got locked in the thing

1147
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,559
and I don't remember what my combination was and the

1148
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,280
woman goes, yeah, that happens all the time. Nobody said

1149
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,519
anything to me. I just sat there with my clothes

1150
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,039
on my lap, my shirt and my bra and my

1151
00:56:13,159 --> 00:56:15,880
purse and nobody is like, we told you to put

1152
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,920
your stuff in the banker. It was all I was

1153
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:23,199
all scared, right yeah, well yeah, but it was yeah, because.

1154
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: They give you the directions on how to lock you know,

1155
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:28,840
push this button twice, then hit the key button, then

1156
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,679
hit the thing, then turn around and yeah, and you're

1157
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,199
like wait, what say it again?

1158
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 4: Like this is you know, ants than the mammogram technology

1159
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:37,480
with the locker.

1160
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 5: Yes, I have a lot of memories staying in that room.

1161
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:43,360
It's so uncomfortable. But I started seeing women bringing their

1162
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,559
stuff into and it's not an MRI room. It's not

1163
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:48,880
like if you have some metal it's going to like attach.

1164
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,320
So it's like, yeah, bring your bag. Yeah, that's not

1165
00:56:51,639 --> 00:56:52,320
so stressful.

1166
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. Oh my gosh, So tell us about Okay,

1167
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,920
so you have this podcast now and it's called what

1168
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:02,559
about Months?

1169
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 5: Never miss a Monday, Never.

1170
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 4: Miss a Monday. What is the meaning of the title

1171
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:08,480
of the show.

1172
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 5: So when I owned my gym with my husband, I

1173
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,960
would tell every client on Monday, never miss a Monday workout,

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because it'll set up your whole week. If you miss Monday,

1175
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you're probably going to miss Tuesday. They're probably going to

1176
00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:22,840
miss Wednesday. And that goes with anything. So that's why

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00:57:23,039 --> 00:57:25,119
that that's how it came to be, is like I

1178
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:27,719
never miss a Monday with working out. I never miss

1179
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:30,039
a Monday meditation and you know, and it's so it's

1180
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:34,559
just with my experience of just never missing these days

1181
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:36,119
and it could be any day of the week, right,

1182
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:38,639
but Monday really sets our week up for success.

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00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: It makes sense.

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00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, look at us, we record every Monday. I never

1185
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:43,480
miss a Monday.

1186
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Speaker 1: Never miss Monday.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing. See there you.

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00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: Go, except every once in a while when we have

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00:57:48,519 --> 00:57:51,400
to reschedule for Tuesday. But we don't miss our Tuesday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's our Tuesday.

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00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We always start it at the beginning of the week. Yeah. Yeah.

1193
00:57:56,599 --> 00:57:59,000
And what so you just started doing it recently?

1194
00:57:59,199 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 5: Yes?

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00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: And was it because you were diagnosed or would you

1196
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,079
you were just going to do it.

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Speaker 5: I was already going to do it. I ended up

1198
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,159
taking a course by Laura a year ago, a podcasting

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00:58:10,239 --> 00:58:13,519
like one oh one, and I was like, oh, this

1200
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:16,840
is really neat. So before I was a gym owner,

1201
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I was a dancer. I'm third generation in my family

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00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,440
and my mom was a professional dancer, my grandmother and

1203
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,760
I just loved the creative aspect of it, and so

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,000
I was like, I definitely knew I wanted to do something.

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00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:30,639
We had the title. It was going to be based

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00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,679
on my life as a health coach and as a trainer,

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00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:36,440
and then the diagnosis and then it was a pivot,

1208
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,599
and it was I brought on a lot of people

1209
00:58:38,639 --> 00:58:40,760
that helped me, a lot of specialists, other women with

1210
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,519
breast cancer going through their journeys, and so it turned

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00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:48,199
into this cool, new, awesome season that I just really

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loved recording. It was amazing.

1213
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Speaker 4: So you're recording it by season, like you're mass recording

1214
00:58:55,039 --> 00:58:57,519
a bunch of them, and then you're gonna, yes, release

1215
00:58:57,559 --> 00:58:59,960
some week by week. So how many are available right now?

1216
00:59:00,159 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 5: So there's six available.

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00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,599
Speaker 4: Right now available? Okay, but you've recorded more.

1218
00:59:03,719 --> 00:59:06,039
Speaker 5: We've recorded more, so we have two more. There's eight

1219
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:08,119
for the first season and it'll have like a three

1220
00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:10,280
week hiatus and then go right into season two.

1221
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:12,519
Speaker 4: Okay, interesting.

1222
00:59:12,679 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah.

1223
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:15,719
Speaker 4: How'd you find Kaylin? Oh? Through Laura?

1224
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, through Lauren Scott.

1225
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 4: Yes, when you took the podcasting class, because I taught

1226
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,679
one with Laura. Oh, I think, but it was just her.

1227
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,320
It was just okay, Okay, Laura and I've done some

1228
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,320
workshops together for other stuff, for like pitching agents and

1229
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:40,079
for getting published in like like on websites and magazines. Yeah,

1230
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,440
that's awesome. I know, I've known Laura for a long time.

1231
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,719
Speaker 5: Laura's amazing.

1232
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: Through sobriety, she's my Yeah, that's how you guys met. Yeah.

1233
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,199
Speaker 5: Oh, that's amazing.

1234
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: Many years ago, almost sixteen years ago.

1235
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,199
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, wow, because I got.

1236
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:58,039
Speaker 4: Sober sixteen years. Yeah. So I got sober May of

1237
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:01,239
two thousand and nine, and I met her right away,

1238
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,079
like a very early sobriety, and she was like, yeah,

1239
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,760
not that far ahead of me. So yeah, Like I

1240
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,400
helped her celebrate her first birthday that sobriety. Yeah, and

1241
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,679
then we've been friends ever since.

1242
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,559
Speaker 5: That's so neat.

1243
01:00:14,679 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And I did her podcast when

1244
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,800
she first started it. I was like one of her

1245
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,519
early guests the first season, yeah, of the only one

1246
01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:27,800
in the room. Yeah yeah, which she just discontinued.

1247
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: We're taking a little break right now, you're taking a.

1248
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,079
Speaker 4: Break, taking a little break. Yeah yeah. Yeah. So I've

1249
01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:34,480
known her for a long time. Yeah, I love that.

1250
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,039
Speaker 2: Well, well, you wish you all the best of luck.

1251
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:44,039
Appreciate it having me on, Yeah, of course. And and which.

1252
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,119
Speaker 4: Day does the episode drop?

1253
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 5: Monday?

1254
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: Monday?

1255
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:48,039
Speaker 5: Monday?

1256
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 4: Yes, awesome. Okay, anyway, do you have a like Instagram?

1257
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,719
Speaker 5: I do any Instagram? Self care with Stacy hyphens in

1258
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,320
between each and never miss a Monday podcast.

1259
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:07,519
Speaker 4: Okay, awesome, thank you, Yeah, Okay, hopefully we'll talk to

1260
01:01:07,559 --> 01:01:10,880
you soon. Sounds good. Okay, Well that was so fun

1261
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,960
having Stacy.

1262
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really her. Yeah, that was she was

1263
01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:15,360
really sweet.

1264
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 4: Yes, but before we go, let's we haven't said hello

1265
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,760
to our friends yet. We have Dick.

1266
01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 5: Frolicker and Kelly Lady dog.

1267
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 4: Katie's rolling Une or pot. I don't know what she's

1268
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,719
up to. Nikki call your girl. And Elizabeth Williamson has

1269
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,960
a lot of kids. And Rita's just jamming out like

1270
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:38,880
rocking them in and Polly, we love your pancakes. Valerie

1271
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,760
hits it out of the park. Katerina please get yeah,

1272
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:47,159
you know self carey check, Yeah, Missy and Gabby come on,

1273
01:01:47,239 --> 01:01:49,119
girls together.

1274
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 5: So cute.

1275
01:01:53,639 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 4: Kelly Brandt, Yeah, she'll take you to go, mamg Alicia

1276
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,320
Escalante from the City of all Monte Leslie with the

1277
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,559
coughing still Aaron's a dirty Sanchez. Jennifer, get up, Sandra,

1278
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:09,360
it's not easy being green. Athena. We love your dancing.

1279
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:15,719
Stephanie is a stinger drinker. Also, our last business shout

1280
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:19,679
outs that we didn't get to on Tuesday, Sergio is

1281
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,360
highlighting the ASPCA. Please give them money. They do so

1282
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:27,760
much good work with our pets, our dogs or cats.

1283
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:30,079
I don't know if they do bunnies, but you know,

1284
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:35,079
give them some money. Also The Get Up Show. It's

1285
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:38,400
a podcast for kids. It's a morning variety show podcast

1286
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,440
that gets them from snooze to shoes. They incorporate yoga

1287
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,599
and music and jokes and learning and lots of fun.

1288
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:47,199
The Get Up Show, Give it to your kids. And

1289
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,360
Adams got a car. He will get you a car.

1290
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,800
He's helped Kaylin. Yeah, he's helped me. He got me

1291
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,000
my tig one. He's helped countless people. He helped Robin, Robin.

1292
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 3: Uh.

1293
01:03:00,639 --> 01:03:02,679
Speaker 4: And he will save you a lot of money. Also,

1294
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:09,760
our friend Laura Wingfield is promoting qy RC Vancouver wa

1295
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,960
dot org. That's the Queer Youth Resource in Vancouver, Washington.

1296
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:20,760
It's really important research resource for queer kids of all stripes.

1297
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,199
And please please help give them money because with this

1298
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:30,400
current administration they've had their funding cut. Also, Ferncandle, it's our.

1299
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,239
Speaker 1: Girl, Kelsey my Ferncandle.

1300
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, she runs this business out of her home and

1301
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,360
makes delicious smelling candles like tobacco, sage and lavender sandalwood.

1302
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,280
And find her on Instagram at Ferncandle or her website

1303
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,280
ferncandle dot com. And yeah, that's it.

1304
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: That's it, all right, Thanks everybody, you're a parent now,

1305
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:51,360
don't have it up

1306
01:03:56,119 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 3: Manning