Speaker 1: Made a decision.
Speaker 2: Ah, thanks Sunny sund On, I had vision.
Speaker 1: N what's up, motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: You guys are a bunch of cunts, but we love you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why we're going to tell you some
Speaker 3: Patreon story.
Speaker 1: I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, no idea what this is about.
Speaker 2: This is not your typical Patreon story, but I needed
Speaker 2: to get this off my chest and I just can't.
Speaker 2: I could never tell this on the regular show. So
Speaker 2: I have a So my book is coming out in January.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever mentioned that. And my publicist,
Speaker 2: there's a the publicist who works for Simon and Schuster.
Speaker 2: Even though I'm a podcaster and could get myself on
Speaker 2: lots of podcasts, I'm going to be doing Allison's podcasting
Speaker 2: and Alison Rosen new your new best Friend. I'm going
Speaker 2: to be doing Jimmy Pardos podcast Never Not Funny. I've
Speaker 2: got some nice things lined up. But my puplicist feels,
Speaker 2: you know, needs to do her job. I don't think
Speaker 2: she needs. I think she's doing fine, but like you know,
Speaker 2: people when they're like wanting to show their work. Yes,
Speaker 2: she's been pitching me to podcasts that she shouldn't be
Speaker 2: because they're not like they're not good podcasts, right, And
Speaker 2: that's not to say that's.
Speaker 1: Not all of them. Some of them are.
Speaker 2: Some of there are fine. I've just they're ones I've
Speaker 2: never heard of, and that's fine. I'm happy to do
Speaker 2: a smaller podcast. But some of them are just so
Speaker 2: not anything that I would ever do or represent. And
Speaker 2: so there's this one, and I don't I'm thinking. I
Speaker 2: told my Robin Wizinski this story, and she was like,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say the name of it. Yeah, just in case.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: All right, let's call it. Let's call it the Microphone Podcast.
Speaker 2: So the Microphone Podcast. So I get this. This is
Speaker 2: one of the earlier emails I get from my publicist,
Speaker 2: and she's like, guess what I got. You booked on
Speaker 2: this the Microphone Podcast. And it's got like it's a
Speaker 2: YouTube show, and it's got you know, twenty thousand subscribers,
Speaker 2: which is not that many listen. It's more than we have.
Speaker 2: We're not a YouTube show. But it's not like it's
Speaker 2: not like a huge show. It's not like like she
Speaker 2: shouldn't be that excited, Like calm down a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know, right, and it's by this.
Speaker 1: Woman who I've never heard of. It's a female.
Speaker 2: Host of the show, which cool I and I kind
Speaker 2: of look it up and it's like, this woman is
Speaker 2: a CEO of a supplement company and does a you know.
Speaker 2: It's like it's not really like it's not going to
Speaker 2: be a funny pods. It's like a brand. It's like
Speaker 2: somebody who's like doing branding stuff.
Speaker 3: Right right in corporated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know. But I'm like, and okay.
Speaker 2: And where is it?
Speaker 3: By the way, that would be my first question, like
Speaker 3: how far do I have to drive? Oh?
Speaker 2: You'll well, this is this is what you'll the part
Speaker 2: you'll love. It's in Culver City, which for any for
Speaker 2: all of you people that don't live in Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: Culver City is somewhere that it's hard to get to
Speaker 2: even from a freeway. The only freeway you're going to
Speaker 2: take those is going to be the four h five,
Speaker 2: which is a fucking nightmare. At anytime a day, you
Speaker 2: just don't want to go anywhere that has to do
Speaker 2: with the four h five unless you have to, right
Speaker 2: even like I will fly out of Burbank and pay
Speaker 2: a two hundred dollars big if I have to do
Speaker 2: a void anyway. So Culver City is far and it's
Speaker 2: also just like just out of the.
Speaker 3: Way to get to Yeah, it's just out of the
Speaker 3: way the pain in the air.
Speaker 2: So the show is booked, okay for a Friday two
Speaker 2: o'clock and it goes and it's from two to four.
Speaker 2: I'm already like and cocktail attire. Cocktail attire? What yes,
Speaker 2: but Lynette tail.
Speaker 1: But keeping in mind, this is like the first thing
Speaker 1: that she's booked me.
Speaker 2: And and I'm also like, why am I doing a
Speaker 2: YouTube show in October for a book release that's in January? Hey,
Speaker 2: nobody buying my book except for my own fans. Nobody
Speaker 2: who watches somebody else's YouTube show is going to be like,
Speaker 2: I must.
Speaker 1: Pre order that. No, They're going to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: if I think.
Speaker 2: About it in January, I'll order the book right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then by then they're gonna be like who Stephan who. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds vaguely familiar, maybe like book me for stuff
Speaker 2: around the time that the book is coming out, right, right,
Speaker 2: everybody knows that all the people, all of our friends
Speaker 2: that have had books coming out. Gina and Teresa wanted
Speaker 2: to be booked around the time their books were coming out,
Speaker 2: right right right, okay makes but this is the Simon
Speaker 2: and Schuster publicist. So I can't be like, you don't
Speaker 2: want to be hey, you don't really know how to
Speaker 2: do your job, like, and she does know how to
Speaker 2: do her job, but she's just she's eager and she's
Speaker 2: trying to help and she's excited.
Speaker 1: And so I can't for the first one be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: no thanks.
Speaker 2: I have since said no thanks to stuff, but this one,
Speaker 2: I'm like, but I'm already immediately dreading it, right.
Speaker 1: Ralph Coars Okay, Culver City on a front.
Speaker 2: So then so a couple of days ahead of time,
Speaker 2: I get like a like a thing that's like a reminder,
Speaker 2: and this is the person who booked to you. And
Speaker 2: here's an email address of the person who is in
Speaker 2: charge of booking, and here's all the research they did
Speaker 2: on you. So it's a very well researched this person.
Speaker 2: This woman has researchers that go and find out all
Speaker 2: this stuff about me, have watched old interviews with me,
Speaker 2: read old blogs of me. Like, first of all, you
Speaker 2: don't need to do all that you know, you don't
Speaker 2: like you don't need to do that. I will talk
Speaker 2: right like I I'm a podcaster, Like, ask me a
Speaker 2: few questions, what's your story, and I will tell it
Speaker 2: to you. You don't need to like they wanted, oh,
Speaker 2: this about your childhood and that, and it's it's a
Speaker 2: podcast that's all about I don't even want to specifically
Speaker 2: tell you what it's about, but but it's it's like
Speaker 2: a happiness, like how do you find how do you
Speaker 2: juggle all the all things? And you know, it's like
Speaker 2: a wellness podcast, which is, you know, not up my alley.
Speaker 2: Even though my book is about sobriety, you know me,
Speaker 2: I'm not like, right, that's about as wellness is not
Speaker 2: meditating all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it all all the things, right, so whatever.
Speaker 2: One of the things in my bio though, the main
Speaker 2: thing the way they're introducing me is and she's a podcaster,
Speaker 2: she's this, and she's a competitive swimmer. I'm like, what
Speaker 2: kind of gphel I guess what said gp GPT? Yeah,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is that? I'm like, well, you didn't
Speaker 2: do the greatest research ever. But now I'm thinking, like
Speaker 2: do I even correct, Like do I even tell her
Speaker 2: or do I when she introduces me that way do
Speaker 2: I go? I just love to hear somebody say that
Speaker 2: about me and then correct it. But so anyway, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm dreading it, dreading it, dreading it. I have to
Speaker 2: leave an hour early. I leave at one o'clock for
Speaker 2: a two o'clock arrival, and it took me every bit
Speaker 2: of an hour and a half to get home. So
Speaker 2: because it is rush hour traffic, Yes, up the four five, okay. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So I get there, I drive there. It's in like
Speaker 2: a it's at a studio. They rented a studio, so
Speaker 2: it's in like a like an industrial park. So it's
Speaker 2: like all these nameless, faceless buildings, you know, and you
Speaker 2: have to go find which one it is. Ks over there,
Speaker 2: I don't think. So this is like a place where
Speaker 2: people rent cheap office space, right, So anyway, I find
Speaker 2: the place. It's like a it's like a suite, and
Speaker 2: I ring the bell. There's no and nobody answers the door.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, cours, Okay, I've gotten like ten reminders
Speaker 2: about this is coming up.
Speaker 1: I ring it again. Nothing.
Speaker 2: So now I'm like I don't have a phone number
Speaker 2: for this person. So I sort of like squat down
Speaker 2: outside of the door, and I find the email address
Speaker 2: for the assistant. By the way, this assistant never emailed
Speaker 2: me back up. I email the person. I'm like, hey, uh,
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be here. We're supposed to start at
Speaker 2: two and it's two now. Because I've been there now
Speaker 2: for a few minutes, nobody's here. Can you please advise?
Speaker 2: She never wrote me back anyway. Then this guy comes
Speaker 2: wandering by and he's like, oh, hey, are.
Speaker 1: You going in there?
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, this is I guess so
Speaker 2: so typical. So then okay, so he lets me in
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, are you part of this thing?
Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, I'm the guy who I'm the engineer.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, do you know, let's
Speaker 2: call her.
Speaker 1: Belinda.
Speaker 2: I go do you are you with Belinda? And he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's late. Oh geez, oh okay, cool, like after you know,
Speaker 2: she's done a mountain of research on me, and then
Speaker 2: she's not even on time. Okay, So Belinda finally arrives.
Speaker 2: I'm in like a Calvin Klein jumpsuit boots. I mean
Speaker 2: I took it seriously, the dress like for you know,
Speaker 2: she's wearing like a leather skirt. She's dressed like she
Speaker 2: she's dressed like. It's not cocktail attire. Let me just
Speaker 2: tell you that she's wearing like a little like top
Speaker 2: and like a like a black leather skirt. And I
Speaker 2: can't even explain why it's not cocktail attire.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's like she's going to like a club, not even
Speaker 2: and and.
Speaker 1: She's like, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 2: Doesn't really apologize for me, like, oh, she's I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say she's I'm going to say she's mid forties.
Speaker 1: Okay, so she's not. She's not young, but she's not
Speaker 1: right as old as me. Okay.
Speaker 2: So we go in and work and she there's like
Speaker 2: two chairs, no snacks, no.
Speaker 1: Coffee. It's a kind of awkward.
Speaker 2: I don't know her from anywhere, and and then I'm like,
Speaker 2: okay this and I can tell right away she has
Speaker 2: no sense of humor. So I'm like, oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: I'm just I thought it would be funny if you
Speaker 2: said it, but now I'm rethinking it. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not a competitive swimmer, and she's like oh okay, okay, wow, Okay.
Speaker 2: So the interview starts and she's asking me these questions
Speaker 2: and I'm just I don't want to wait for these
Speaker 2: very week these questions that are going to be like
Speaker 2: so in your childhood. So I'm just like being a
Speaker 2: good interviewee and I remember a lot of the stuff
Speaker 2: that I know she wants to get to, and I'm
Speaker 2: just talking and I can it's fine, and it goes
Speaker 2: on and it kind of goes fast, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm giving this woman some gold here, and she's there's
Speaker 2: something is off about her. Let's just say Okay.
Speaker 1: So we're getting to.
Speaker 2: The end and she's asked me several times about then
Speaker 2: she wants to come back. We're talking about postpartum depression
Speaker 2: and how like I started drinking more with postpartum depression
Speaker 2: and I had postpartum anxiety. So she wants to come
Speaker 2: back to that. Yeah, And then she's like, so you
Speaker 2: took medication and I was like, uh huh. And then
Speaker 2: she's like, but would you say that medication pharmaceuticals? Medication
Speaker 2: is over prescribed in this country ebly, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh god, is she a scientologist?
Speaker 1: Like what is this? And why? Like why me?
Speaker 2: And so I was like, I mean, I think a
Speaker 2: lot of times people, I said, I know a lot
Speaker 2: of people who, you know, antidepressants have saved their life,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, a.
Speaker 2: Postpart and depression, it's a pretty She's like, yeah, but
Speaker 2: do you don't you think that there are other oh oh?
Speaker 2: And then I was like, well, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I think especially if you're also combining that with a
Speaker 2: lot of other things you can do to feel better,
Speaker 2: but like you know, exercise and whatever. And she's like oh,
Speaker 2: and I said, but a lot of times new moms,
Speaker 2: you know, they're not able to go to the gym
Speaker 2: or do a lot of things and anyway, blah, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. She's like, don't you think that people could
Speaker 2: just like have a nap and feel better? And I said, well,
Speaker 2: getting more sleep, of course can help. I was like,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people have like depression and know
Speaker 2: a biochemical depression and anxiety and need medication. I know
Speaker 2: it's helped a lot of people. And she's like, but
Speaker 2: would you say it's over prescribed? And I'm like, this
Speaker 2: bitch has such an agenda and I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, but I'm not liking it, and I'm not
Speaker 2: liking being put in this position. So I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor, so I would never weigh in.
Speaker 1: On something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm trying to also be nice because I
Speaker 2: don't want to like have like a tense moment. I've
Speaker 2: already I've already.
Speaker 1: This is like an hour and a half into the interview, right,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So then she asks me.
Speaker 2: She's like okay, so she sort of lets that go
Speaker 2: and then she's like, now's the Now's the part where
Speaker 2: I ask you for like if you had a motto,
Speaker 2: like and I hadn't seen this, like I'm put on
Speaker 2: the spot of like what would your motto be? I'm like,
Speaker 2: my fucking motto be? Like for what for finding more
Speaker 2: balance in your life?
Speaker 1: Or whatever?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I make some bullshit up. And then she goes,
Speaker 2: what are your three favorite books? So I name a
Speaker 2: couple books I like, and I go what are your
Speaker 2: three favorite books? And she goes, wow, Ein Rand is
Speaker 2: like my absolute favorite author. I mean her book changed
Speaker 2: my life. For anybody that doesn't know who Ein Rand is,
Speaker 2: this is a whole Like this is the most narcissistic,
Speaker 2: Like don't help people pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like, yeah, don't give a fuck about other
Speaker 2: people loved kind of yes, right, I'm like, this is
Speaker 2: John makes a lot of jokes about my mom.
Speaker 1: Probably her hero is Ein Rand.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, all right, now i know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Dealing with, right, I mean, if Ein Rand is your hero, listen,
Speaker 2: I can understand if you're like, you know, I read
Speaker 2: Ein Rand's book, like you know, it's it's worthwhile of
Speaker 2: having a discussion about.
Speaker 1: She makes some interesting points, but.
Speaker 2: That's your hero. She's like, that's why. That's the book
Speaker 2: that I that changed my life. I started my own
Speaker 2: business because of that book. I'm like, your own business
Speaker 2: with it, You're not on time for it doesn't have
Speaker 2: that many like bitch, you're not doing that well.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then she tells.
Speaker 2: Me on my other book, of course, is Jordan Peterson's.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Jordan Peterson the most one of the most
Speaker 2: controversial figures, transphobic, the most transphobic. You're gonna get yeah, uh,
Speaker 2: and you know, kicked off of the platform, I mean
Speaker 2: kicked off of patriot It takes a lot to be
Speaker 2: kicked off of He's racist, transphobic, I mean now, I'm like,
Speaker 2: but now the interview is over at this point, Lynnette.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, and I'm not gonna look, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to fight somebody over. I'm not going to say anything.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to make it uncomfortable. I'm not even
Speaker 2: gonna go like, oh, really that guy's really probably don't
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm not here to I'm not going
Speaker 2: to try to cancel this woman. Obviously, I'm not even
Speaker 2: saying I have your own beliefs, love Jordan Peterson, be
Speaker 2: your own person. Thank for thanks for having me on
Speaker 2: your show. But it was just like it was like
Speaker 2: the cherry on the Sunday, you know, it was just like.
Speaker 1: This was I already knew.
Speaker 2: I knew I should have canceled this because that audience.
Speaker 2: As soon as I heard that, I was like, oh
Speaker 2: now I know what this audience is. This is the
Speaker 2: anti pharmaceutical, which is also another kind of Jordan petersony thing.
Speaker 2: I was just like, this thing is very not aligned
Speaker 2: with my thing.
Speaker 1: That's what I don't get.
Speaker 3: Like, if she does her research, does she not know like, hello,
Speaker 3: what a libtart?
Speaker 2: I am, like you think she would know? Yeah, why
Speaker 2: would she well, but here's what happens, and this is
Speaker 2: how I'll rap what happens is happens some people that
Speaker 2: have shows, we are like the opposite. We're like publicists
Speaker 2: give us people and were like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: why do we care? If we care about this person,
Speaker 2: give us something that has was the person in prison?
Speaker 1: All right, we'll revisit.
Speaker 2: You know. Are they funny? Are they a comedian? Yes,
Speaker 2: we're interesting. Are they do they? Are they on Bravo?
Speaker 2: Sure we'll take them. You know, but if it's just
Speaker 2: like this person wrote a book about swaddling.
Speaker 1: Your baby, like, no, thanks, we're bored. I'm already asleep.
Speaker 1: I haven't even finished the email.
Speaker 2: But some people that are trying to get are all
Speaker 2: guest dependent. So if a publicist pitches somebody and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: that person wrote six books, Oh they could they could
Speaker 2: get eyes on my thing? Yes, you know, So what
Speaker 2: happens is you have a show? Because I went and
Speaker 2: looked back at like all her past shows nobody. Oh
Speaker 2: and when it was pitched to me, it was like
Speaker 2: she's had bono on so what it sounded like she'd
Speaker 2: had celebrities.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If it's like a different bono. It's definitely not the
Speaker 2: U two bono, because you'd think she would lead with
Speaker 2: that in her in her interviews. No, all the videos
Speaker 2: that I saw it's a were no one you have
Speaker 2: ever heard of. And and this was after the fact,
Speaker 2: because I was like, what did I just sit for?
Speaker 1: What did I just do?
Speaker 2: And I went and looked and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I should I should have done.
Speaker 1: My reass you should have done.
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of us. We don't do reso. And
Speaker 2: of course my publicist emailed me how did it go?
Speaker 1: And I was like, fantastic, can't wait for it to
Speaker 1: come out? Boy, oh my god to promote it.
Speaker 2: No, So yeah, So I made a commitment to myself
Speaker 2: after this. I have said yes to quite a few
Speaker 2: other things, but like I'm going to start saying no.
Speaker 2: I'm going to start doing my research and I'm going
Speaker 2: to say no to stuff. Yeah it's ridiculous, Yes, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So I'll tell I'll share with you guys. Maybe I'll
Speaker 2: share it with you guys when it comes out on Patreon.
Speaker 1: If it's I don't know, I'll have to think about
Speaker 1: it all right, anyway about it?
Speaker 3: Thanks everybody, good thank you all right, bye bye.
Speaker 2: It's good letting go.