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<v Speaker 1>Made a decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, thanks Sunny sund On, I had vision.

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<v Speaker 1>N what's up, motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are a bunch of cunts, but we love you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's why we're going to tell you some

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<v Speaker 3>Patreon story.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, no idea what this is about.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not your typical Patreon story, but I needed

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<v Speaker 2>to get this off my chest and I just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I could never tell this on the regular show. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have a So my book is coming out in January.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've ever mentioned that. And my publicist,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a the publicist who works for Simon and Schuster.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though I'm a podcaster and could get myself on

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<v Speaker 2>lots of podcasts, I'm going to be doing Allison's podcasting

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<v Speaker 2>and Alison Rosen new your new best Friend. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be doing Jimmy Pardos podcast Never Not Funny. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got some nice things lined up. But my puplicist feels,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, needs to do her job. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>she needs. I think she's doing fine, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people when they're like wanting to show their work. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she's been pitching me to podcasts that she shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>because they're not like they're not good podcasts, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not to say that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all of them. Some of them are.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of there are fine. I've just they're ones I've

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<v Speaker 2>never heard of, and that's fine. I'm happy to do

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<v Speaker 2>a smaller podcast. But some of them are just so

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<v Speaker 2>not anything that I would ever do or represent. And

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<v Speaker 2>so there's this one, and I don't I'm thinking. I

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<v Speaker 2>told my Robin Wizinski this story, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say the name of it. Yeah, just in case.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's call it. Let's call it the Microphone Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Microphone Podcast. So I get this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the earlier emails I get from my publicist,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, guess what I got. You booked on

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<v Speaker 2>this the Microphone Podcast. And it's got like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube show, and it's got you know, twenty thousand subscribers,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not that many listen. It's more than we have.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not a YouTube show. But it's not like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like a huge show. It's not like like she

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be that excited, Like calm down a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, right, and it's by this.

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<v Speaker 1>Woman who I've never heard of. It's a female.

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<v Speaker 2>Host of the show, which cool I and I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of look it up and it's like, this woman is

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<v Speaker 2>a CEO of a supplement company and does a you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's not really like it's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a funny pods. It's like a brand. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's like doing branding stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right in corporated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's you know. But I'm like, and okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And where is it?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, that would be my first question, like

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<v Speaker 3>how far do I have to drive? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>You'll well, this is this is what you'll the part

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<v Speaker 2>you'll love. It's in Culver City, which for any for

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<v Speaker 2>all of you people that don't live in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>Culver City is somewhere that it's hard to get to

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<v Speaker 2>even from a freeway. The only freeway you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take those is going to be the four h five,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a fucking nightmare. At anytime a day, you

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<v Speaker 2>just don't want to go anywhere that has to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the four h five unless you have to, right

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<v Speaker 2>even like I will fly out of Burbank and pay

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<v Speaker 2>a two hundred dollars big if I have to do

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<v Speaker 2>a void anyway. So Culver City is far and it's

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<v Speaker 2>also just like just out of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way to get to Yeah, it's just out of the

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<v Speaker 3>way the pain in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>So the show is booked, okay for a Friday two

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock and it goes and it's from two to four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm already like and cocktail attire. Cocktail attire? What yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but Lynette tail.

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<v Speaker 1>But keeping in mind, this is like the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that she's booked me.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I'm also like, why am I doing a

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube show in October for a book release that's in January? Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody buying my book except for my own fans. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>who watches somebody else's YouTube show is going to be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I must.

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<v Speaker 1>Pre order that. No, They're going to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if I think.

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<v Speaker 2>About it in January, I'll order the book right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then by then they're gonna be like who Stephan who. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds vaguely familiar, maybe like book me for stuff

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<v Speaker 2>around the time that the book is coming out, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knows that all the people, all of our friends

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<v Speaker 2>that have had books coming out. Gina and Teresa wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be booked around the time their books were coming out,

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<v Speaker 2>right right right, okay makes but this is the Simon

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<v Speaker 2>and Schuster publicist. So I can't be like, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be hey, you don't really know how to

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<v Speaker 2>do your job, like, and she does know how to

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<v Speaker 2>do her job, but she's just she's eager and she's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to help and she's excited.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I can't for the first one be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>I have since said no thanks to stuff, but this one,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, but I'm already immediately dreading it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Ralph Coars Okay, Culver City on a front.

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<v Speaker 2>So then so a couple of days ahead of time,

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<v Speaker 2>I get like a like a thing that's like a reminder,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the person who booked to you. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's an email address of the person who is in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of booking, and here's all the research they did

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<v Speaker 2>on you. So it's a very well researched this person.

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<v Speaker 2>This woman has researchers that go and find out all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff about me, have watched old interviews with me,

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<v Speaker 2>read old blogs of me. Like, first of all, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to do all that you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't need to do that. I will talk

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<v Speaker 2>right like I I'm a podcaster, Like, ask me a

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<v Speaker 2>few questions, what's your story, and I will tell it

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<v Speaker 2>to you. You don't need to like they wanted, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this about your childhood and that, and it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast that's all about I don't even want to specifically

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what it's about, but but it's it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a happiness, like how do you find how do you

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<v Speaker 2>juggle all the all things? And you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a wellness podcast, which is, you know, not up my alley.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though my book is about sobriety, you know me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not like, right, that's about as wellness is not

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<v Speaker 2>meditating all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing it all all the things, right, so whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things in my bio though, the main

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<v Speaker 2>thing the way they're introducing me is and she's a podcaster,

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<v Speaker 2>she's this, and she's a competitive swimmer. I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gphel I guess what said gp GPT? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck is that? I'm like, well, you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do the greatest research ever. But now I'm thinking, like

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<v Speaker 2>do I even correct, Like do I even tell her

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<v Speaker 2>or do I when she introduces me that way do

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<v Speaker 2>I go? I just love to hear somebody say that

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<v Speaker 2>about me and then correct it. But so anyway, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dreading it, dreading it, dreading it. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>leave an hour early. I leave at one o'clock for

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<v Speaker 2>a two o'clock arrival, and it took me every bit

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<v Speaker 2>of an hour and a half to get home. So

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<v Speaker 2>because it is rush hour traffic, Yes, up the four five, okay. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So I get there, I drive there. It's in like

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<v Speaker 2>a it's at a studio. They rented a studio, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's in like a like an industrial park. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like all these nameless, faceless buildings, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go find which one it is. Ks over there,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. So this is like a place where

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<v Speaker 2>people rent cheap office space, right, So anyway, I find

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<v Speaker 2>the place. It's like a it's like a suite, and

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<v Speaker 2>I ring the bell. There's no and nobody answers the door.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, cours, Okay, I've gotten like ten reminders

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<v Speaker 2>about this is coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I ring it again. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I'm like I don't have a phone number

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<v Speaker 2>for this person. So I sort of like squat down

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the door, and I find the email address

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<v Speaker 2>for the assistant. By the way, this assistant never emailed

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<v Speaker 2>me back up. I email the person. I'm like, hey, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to be here. We're supposed to start at

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<v Speaker 2>two and it's two now. Because I've been there now

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<v Speaker 2>for a few minutes, nobody's here. Can you please advise?

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<v Speaker 2>She never wrote me back anyway. Then this guy comes

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<v Speaker 2>wandering by and he's like, oh, hey, are.

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<v Speaker 1>You going in there?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, yeah, this is I guess so

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<v Speaker 2>so typical. So then okay, so he lets me in

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, are you part of this thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes, yeah, I'm the guy who I'm the engineer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, okay, do you know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>call her.

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<v Speaker 1>Belinda.

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<v Speaker 2>I go do you are you with Belinda? And he goes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's late. Oh geez, oh okay, cool, like after you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's done a mountain of research on me, and then

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<v Speaker 2>she's not even on time. Okay, So Belinda finally arrives.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in like a Calvin Klein jumpsuit boots. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I took it seriously, the dress like for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's wearing like a leather skirt. She's dressed like she

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<v Speaker 2>she's dressed like. It's not cocktail attire. Let me just

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that she's wearing like a little like top

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<v Speaker 2>and like a like a black leather skirt. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even explain why it's not cocktail attire.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like she's going to like a club, not even

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<v Speaker 2>and and.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't really apologize for me, like, oh, she's I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say she's I'm going to say she's mid forties.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so she's not. She's not young, but she's not

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<v Speaker 1>right as old as me. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So we go in and work and she there's like

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<v Speaker 2>two chairs, no snacks, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Coffee. It's a kind of awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know her from anywhere, and and then I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>okay this and I can tell right away she has

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<v Speaker 2>no sense of humor. So I'm like, oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I thought it would be funny if you

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<v Speaker 2>said it, but now I'm rethinking it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a competitive swimmer, and she's like oh okay, okay, wow, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the interview starts and she's asking me these questions

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just I don't want to wait for these

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<v Speaker 2>very week these questions that are going to be like

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<v Speaker 2>so in your childhood. So I'm just like being a

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<v Speaker 2>good interviewee and I remember a lot of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that I know she wants to get to, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just talking and I can it's fine, and it goes

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, but would you say that medication pharmaceuticals? Medication

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<v Speaker 2>is over prescribed in this country ebly, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. She's like, don't you think that people could

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<v Speaker 2>it's helped a lot of people. And she's like, but

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<v Speaker 2>would you say it's over prescribed? And I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>it is, but I'm not liking it, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>liking being put in this position. So I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a doctor, so I would never weigh in.

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<v Speaker 1>On something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I'm trying to also be nice because I

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<v Speaker 1>This is like an hour and a half into the interview, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. So then she asks me.

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<v Speaker 2>the spot of like what would your motto be? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>my fucking motto be? Like for what for finding more

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<v Speaker 2>balance in your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I make some bullshit up. And then she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>what are your three favorite books? So I name a

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<v Speaker 2>couple books I like, and I go what are your

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<v Speaker 2>three favorite books? And she goes, wow, Ein Rand is

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<v Speaker 2>like my absolute favorite author. I mean her book changed

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<v Speaker 2>my life. For anybody that doesn't know who Ein Rand is,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a whole Like this is the most narcissistic,

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<v Speaker 2>Like don't help people pull yourself up by your bootstraps.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, like, yeah, don't give a fuck about other

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<v Speaker 2>John makes a lot of jokes about my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably her hero is Ein Rand.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, okay, all right, now i know what I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Dealing with, right, I mean, if Ein Rand is your hero, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand if you're like, you know, I read

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<v Speaker 2>Ein Rand's book, like you know, it's it's worthwhile of

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<v Speaker 2>That's your hero. She's like, that's why. That's the book

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<v Speaker 2>that I that changed my life. I started my own

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<v Speaker 2>business because of that book. I'm like, your own business

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<v Speaker 2>with it, You're not on time for it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>that many like bitch, you're not doing that well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then she tells.

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<v Speaker 2>Me on my other book, of course, is Jordan Peterson's.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Jordan Peterson the most one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>controversial figures, transphobic, the most transphobic. You're gonna get yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, kicked off of the platform, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>kicked off of patriot It takes a lot to be

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<v Speaker 2>kicked off of He's racist, transphobic, I mean now, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>but now the interview is over at this point, Lynnette.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, and I'm not gonna look, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to fight somebody over. I'm not going to say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to make it uncomfortable. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go like, oh, really that guy's really probably don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I'm not here to I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to try to cancel this woman. Obviously, I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>saying I have your own beliefs, love Jordan Peterson, be

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<v Speaker 2>your own person. Thank for thanks for having me on

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<v Speaker 2>your show. But it was just like it was like

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<v Speaker 2>the cherry on the Sunday, you know, it was just like.

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<v Speaker 1>This was I already knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I should have canceled this because that audience.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I heard that, I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>now I know what this audience is. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>anti pharmaceutical, which is also another kind of Jordan petersony thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, this thing is very not aligned

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<v Speaker 2>with my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I don't get.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, if she does her research, does she not know like, hello,

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<v Speaker 3>what a libtart?

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<v Speaker 2>I am, like you think she would know? Yeah, why

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<v Speaker 2>would she well, but here's what happens, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>how I'll rap what happens is happens some people that

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<v Speaker 2>have shows, we are like the opposite. We're like publicists

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<v Speaker 2>give us people and were like, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>why do we care? If we care about this person,

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<v Speaker 2>give us something that has was the person in prison?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll revisit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Are they funny? Are they a comedian? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we're interesting. Are they do they? Are they on Bravo?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure we'll take them. You know, but if it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like this person wrote a book about swaddling.

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<v Speaker 1>Your baby, like, no, thanks, we're bored. I'm already asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't even finished the email.

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<v Speaker 2>But some people that are trying to get are all

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<v Speaker 2>guest dependent. So if a publicist pitches somebody and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that person wrote six books, Oh they could they could

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<v Speaker 2>get eyes on my thing? Yes, you know, So what

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<v Speaker 2>happens is you have a show? Because I went and

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<v Speaker 2>looked back at like all her past shows nobody. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>and when it was pitched to me, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>she's had bono on so what it sounded like she'd

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<v Speaker 2>had celebrities.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's like a different bono. It's definitely not the

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<v Speaker 2>U two bono, because you'd think she would lead with

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<v Speaker 2>that in her in her interviews. No, all the videos

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<v Speaker 2>that I saw it's a were no one you have

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard of. And and this was after the fact,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like, what did I just sit for?

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<v Speaker 1>What did I just do?

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<v Speaker 2>And I went and looked and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I should I should have done.

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<v Speaker 1>My reass you should have done.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the beauty of us. We don't do reso. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course my publicist emailed me how did it go?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, fantastic, can't wait for it to

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<v Speaker 1>come out? Boy, oh my god to promote it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So yeah, So I made a commitment to myself

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<v Speaker 2>after this. I have said yes to quite a few

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<v Speaker 2>other things, but like I'm going to start saying no.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to start doing my research and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say no to stuff. Yeah it's ridiculous, Yes, yes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll tell I'll share with you guys. Maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 2>share it with you guys when it comes out on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's I don't know, I'll have to think about

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<v Speaker 1>it all right, anyway about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks everybody, good thank you all right, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good letting go.