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Speaker 1: Bro, Thank you my man. I'm excited.
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Speaker 2: So maybe if those people don't know who you are, man,
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Speaker 2: the subject matter of today, because this is something that
Speaker 2: is in your new book.
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, that's right. Uh yeah, I am a Schitzo.
Speaker 5: On the internet, you can find my book Spirit Realm,
Speaker 5: Shenanigan's and Unhings Dran exposing the psychic fabrications of this
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Speaker 5: everything's on my link tree and my linktree is linktree
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Speaker 5: ex is Seth Lahem. My Instagram is Sethlhema Underscore. If
Speaker 5: you want to find my link tree, it's in my
Speaker 5: bio of those accounts, and you know, reach out to
Speaker 5: me if you have any questions. I try to be
Speaker 5: good and respond to most people. Yeah, this is this
Speaker 5: is part three material and we are I highly recommend
Speaker 5: anybody watching now who hasn't seen episode one or two
Speaker 5: that lays the groundwork for what we're getting into today,
Speaker 5: and it's already leaving you assumed at the beginning of
Speaker 5: this that you have an understanding somewhat of the Part
Speaker 5: one on especially material, and a little bit of Part
Speaker 5: two wouldn't hurt because it is the groundwork for what
Speaker 5: we're talking about today, which is a reincarnation debunk in
Speaker 5: a way that I have not seen anybody else do.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty confident in my research because it's mainly taking
Speaker 5: my main theory, which my main theory.
Speaker 1: Which is covered in episode one, is.
Speaker 5: The whole idea of the astral realm that we visit.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying there's no astra realm or spirit realm.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that we visit in our travels quote
Speaker 5: unquote when we project.
Speaker 1: I believe that is.
Speaker 5: Pretty much all simulation. If we're going to realm specifically,
Speaker 5: there's a whole semantic deviation about the real time zone,
Speaker 5: you know, our real world overlay. But you know that's
Speaker 5: a whole unnecessary semantic thing. But just putting it out there.
Speaker 5: But as far as realms go that we visit, I
Speaker 5: believe they're all simulations, essentially lucid dreams controlled by entities
Speaker 5: and you can assume those entities are gods which they
Speaker 5: claim to be, or sending masters of various kinds, and
Speaker 5: they different names for the same thing. But if you
Speaker 5: have a Christian worldview, you go the more demonic route,
Speaker 5: and they're all masking and deceiving you the whole point
Speaker 5: of these realms that they're building up. And when I
Speaker 5: say control, I mean and you see in episode one,
Speaker 5: because I prove the level of control with the own
Speaker 5: testimonies of the Astral travelers themselves and what they say
Speaker 5: it is from their own mouth, I prove that the
Speaker 5: control is so deep that it's not only everything world
Speaker 5: building around you simil like visually, which is already deeply, deeply,
Speaker 5: perfectly controlled, all the characters in it, all the dialogue
Speaker 5: they share with you, but it's also your intuition that
Speaker 5: they're jacked into, because just like they can manipulate our
Speaker 5: thoughts in the waking world, whatever you give up your
Speaker 5: sovereignty in the astral realm, you're giving up your sovereignty
Speaker 5: to be manipulated and controlled. They can make you feel love,
Speaker 5: feel really good. They can make you feel scared. They
Speaker 5: can control your lucidity levels and make them dimmer and
Speaker 5: lower or more aware if they want to, and they
Speaker 5: will strategically to manipulate you. And the whole point of
Speaker 5: these realms they take you to is to convince you
Speaker 5: of a cosmology that is completely unaligned with the biblical cosmology,
Speaker 5: which is, you know, their demons trying to deceive you
Speaker 5: into a false belief system, because if you believe in
Speaker 5: a false cosmology, you will not believe in.
Speaker 1: The Bible or Jesus, or at least.
Speaker 5: In the biblical Jesus as opposed to the nor gnostic one,
Speaker 5: which is not doesn't suffice according to the Bible itself,
Speaker 5: so it's a dangerous unified mission. In this I make
Speaker 5: the point that this astional realm control is so perfect
Speaker 5: doing this same level of information funneling and control of
Speaker 5: visions also easily applies to remote viewing, which is just
Speaker 5: like a lower CPU requiring form of actional travel. It's
Speaker 5: the same mechanism, just less immersive, so it's much easier
Speaker 5: than even actional travel control. Which just making that point,
Speaker 5: because it's important. They'll give you real data, but usually
Speaker 5: to make you believe the fake data they give you later,
Speaker 5: So it's a whole strategic thing that they're timing very well.
Speaker 5: And this also in today what we're talking about applies
Speaker 5: to reincarnation memories, which is what I believe to be downloaded, implanted,
Speaker 5: full blown memories which come along with a download of
Speaker 5: information alongside it. And you know, they talk about downloads
Speaker 5: in the astral low very easily, which they admit to
Speaker 5: being able to transfer to anybody to get a full
Speaker 5: picture of what's happening. And those downloads can only be
Speaker 5: information and understanding a lot of information in a like
Speaker 5: instant amount of time. But it's also can be transferring
Speaker 5: you to a simulation which you live out, and it
Speaker 5: can be a bit it can be haveonomy, no automy.
Speaker 5: They control all these things, and when you have autonomy,
Speaker 5: you're still pushed around and intuitively guided. So it's very
Speaker 5: much you're you're in there. You're putting in their hands
Speaker 5: in these divination seeking occult practices, especially astral travel and
Speaker 5: all of them. I believe every single psychic information deriving
Speaker 5: that you do is going to be funneled and powered
Speaker 5: completely by these entities. And watch episodes one and two
Speaker 5: if you don't believe me too is more breaking down
Speaker 5: the whole Dan Duval debacle and his healing methods, which
Speaker 5: are so correlated, so in line with New Age healing
Speaker 5: practices in every way, except they deviate in ways that
Speaker 5: can't coexist. Their incompatible Watch episode two if you don't
Speaker 5: believe me. But they all have a common theme of
Speaker 5: having visions during the healings which validate the strategic displacing
Speaker 5: of pain or ailments that they're causing you. Which demons
Speaker 5: will heal you, allow you to think you're healed temporarily
Speaker 5: often unless you're an asset, to make you believe that
Speaker 5: whatever cosmology is coming along with the visions. And Christians
Speaker 5: will do this quote unquote like dan Uvaal, and these
Speaker 5: will still expand your cosmology to a non biblical one,
Speaker 5: but they'll try to Christian easee it and label things
Speaker 5: a certain way. But it's a bridge to gnostic concepts.
Speaker 5: Everything they talk about, galactic federation and Anaki, alternate timelines,
Speaker 5: alternate earths, that is all. Dan Duval derives stuff as well,
Speaker 5: and he promotes the secret Space program is legitimate. Today
Speaker 5: we're going to talk about all the false memory implantations
Speaker 5: there are and how disinformation is embedded in them, not
Speaker 5: just reincarnation memories, but how This also applies to Secret
Speaker 5: Space Program memories, Water Kingdom memories if you're aware of
Speaker 5: how crazy that stuff gets. Even my labs, which that's controversial.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get a lot of hate for that one, probably,
Speaker 5: but just hear me out in the entire three presentations, please,
Speaker 5: that's my little summary rant. If anybody was curious, it's important.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yep. And even your last episode that we
Speaker 2: had done was kind of a little bit of a
Speaker 2: trigger and hot button topic. We even had some people
Speaker 2: in the chat live that was fans of Dan Deval
Speaker 2: and it was kind of, you know, giving you a
Speaker 2: little bit of pushback. And even had I expected some
Speaker 2: stuff on social media, uh, but I had one individual
Speaker 2: that was obviously I don't know the person, but just
Speaker 2: by how they kept, you know, responding and writing these
Speaker 2: really long novel responses and stuff. It was just it
Speaker 2: was an emotional topic. And granted, we all get emotional,
Speaker 2: especially if it's something we're involved with. If we go
Speaker 2: see somebody and they make us feel better, of course
Speaker 2: we're gonna you know, be all about them because they
Speaker 2: made us feel better. But just because they made you
Speaker 2: feel better doesn't mean they're a good person.
Speaker 1: You can always trust your feelings right.
Speaker 2: Exactly, And even in the Old Testament, I get people
Speaker 2: all the time would tell me sometimes like I get
Speaker 2: so frustrated when I see how God moves and the
Speaker 2: Israelites seeing the plagues come upon Egypt and all of
Speaker 2: the miraculous things he'd done, took them through the Red
Speaker 2: Sea for them to make a golden calf and start,
Speaker 2: you know, rejecting him and serving other gods. And I'm like, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it was real. These other you know, lowercase g gods,
Speaker 2: they have power, and there's a payoff to sacrificing your
Speaker 2: children and things like that, or or else no one
Speaker 2: would do it, you know what I'm saying. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: So it's hard sometimes to look at something objectively, especially
Speaker 2: when you're emotionally involved. And I'm sure a lot of
Speaker 2: those people in the ancient world that sacrifice their child,
Speaker 2: you know, to help them win a war or whatever else,
Speaker 2: will vouch all day long how this God.
Speaker 5: Brings the rein good for them, you know, yeah, man,
Speaker 5: And people don't understand that these deceptions that are being
Speaker 5: played out by the demonic Realm are strategic from advanced
Speaker 5: ancient hive mind hive minded beings that have a plan,
Speaker 5: and it requires looking like.
Speaker 1: The nice guy on paper to a lot of people.
Speaker 5: And you know, I like to bring up, like I
Speaker 5: talked about episod one whenever these astral beings, guides or
Speaker 5: demons whoever they are, present themselves to you, which they're
Speaker 5: always there, but they're invisible a lot of the time,
Speaker 5: and want you to think you're alone, but you're You're
Speaker 5: never alone in the astral keep in mind they want.
Speaker 5: They can make you feel love, make you feel really good,
Speaker 5: and make it feel like it's in your soul, like
Speaker 5: they can trigger that and affect your emotions. They can
Speaker 5: do that in our waking life to a degree with
Speaker 5: nyity encounters as well, and strategically time those good feelings
Speaker 5: at the wrong times, maybe depending on who you are
Speaker 5: and what the advantage is for them. But when you
Speaker 5: meet angels in the Bible and angels, real angels in
Speaker 5: the Bible encounter people, what do they always say? They say,
Speaker 5: do not be afraid or or something of that nature.
Speaker 5: All of them, I believe, And you know why, because
Speaker 5: they're not jacking into you, even though they can, just
Speaker 5: like demons, they can jack in you and control your
Speaker 5: emotions and manipulate you. They won't because that's manipulation, and
Speaker 5: that's important to keep in mind that they let you
Speaker 5: come to this conclusion on your own based on the information,
Speaker 5: as opposed to making you feel good, which they're totally
Speaker 5: capable of doing. I think that's important because just because
Speaker 5: it makes you feel good, if anything, that should be
Speaker 5: a sign that maybe it's someone trying to manipulate you.
Speaker 5: Not always, but when it comes to these entity encounters,
Speaker 5: it is a pattern that is undeniably present, and I
Speaker 5: just think people should keep that in mind because feeling
Speaker 5: good can be a strategically timed thing from the spiritual
Speaker 5: realm to get you to buy into the slot they're
Speaker 5: feeding you.
Speaker 1: Is something I like to point out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. So I guess with that out
Speaker 2: of the way, man, everybody put it on your emotional
Speaker 2: seat belts. Let's be good bereans. Let's hear the man out,
Speaker 2: and then we can search the scriptures and see if
Speaker 2: it is so right.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, So it's gonna be another long one if
Speaker 5: you don't mind, And like the last few, I got
Speaker 5: a lot of lore here. Let me know when we're
Speaker 5: like you know, in the last fifteen to twenty minutes,
Speaker 5: I'll go on my crazy rant, but it's going to
Speaker 5: get really heated up near the end and really elaborate,
Speaker 5: so bear with me. So first, I guess I want
Speaker 5: to do a quick I already did the overall overview
Speaker 5: of last two episodes, but I want to make a
Speaker 5: quick pointer about things that we've established and which I'll
Speaker 5: just quickly go over, and things that you know, we're
Speaker 5: starting out with this baseline information in mind because it's
Speaker 5: going to apply quickly into my theories. So yeah, basically
Speaker 5: what we've established in part one that I believe to
Speaker 5: be a fact based on all the data. It's more
Speaker 5: detailed in my book. These beings, these demons, if that's
Speaker 5: what they are, they are part of a hive mind.
Speaker 5: They can instantly share information to all their entities. They
Speaker 5: are separate entities. However, many demons died in the flood,
Speaker 5: or how many demons are or how many nepheline died
Speaker 5: in the flood, or how many demons we have afflicting
Speaker 5: us today, that's what I believe.
Speaker 1: That's based on the.
Speaker 5: Biblical lore and a little bit extra biblical sure, but yeah,
Speaker 5: it's that I believe they're part of a high mind,
Speaker 5: and that's how they commit That's how they commit themselves
Speaker 5: to these grandiose, elaborate deceptions on a unified way across
Speaker 5: the whole world. And even whenever they're sharing like channeling
Speaker 5: or n city contact, giving different information to different people,
Speaker 5: it's not because they're messing up and because they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: I didn't forget or I forgot what the other guy
Speaker 5: said to this person, so they're getting their story mixed up. No,
Speaker 5: they're intentionally strategically giving a vast array of details in
Speaker 5: these various belief systems. It's the same reason they created
Speaker 5: one religion, and it's the same reason they created many
Speaker 5: religions through people deceiving them as opposed to creating one
Speaker 5: counter religion, Christianity. Because one, it makes Christianity look like
Speaker 5: a drop in the bucket of a big, you know,
Speaker 5: set of belief systems, making it less important, seeming on
Speaker 5: the surface to people who aren't cross examining every little thing.
Speaker 5: And also it's strategically done because it allows people will gravitate.
Speaker 5: They know people they know, they know it's better than us.
Speaker 5: They know people will gravitate towards what makes sense to them,
Speaker 5: what's around their culture, what's around their families. They know
Speaker 5: most majority of people will not cross examine these things,
Speaker 5: so they strategically diverge the material they channel to people,
Speaker 5: which is a clear source that oh, they're different beings.
Speaker 5: They can't be the same beings, because why would they
Speaker 5: give us all these different stories and all these different
Speaker 5: historical accounts that don't align with each other. It's strategy.
Speaker 5: So they seem like they're not one type of being
Speaker 5: doing this. It's that's what I personally believe based on
Speaker 5: all the data. Yeah, that's right. So they're a high
Speaker 5: mind that can share information instantly, and this is how
Speaker 5: they carry out prophecies and stuff like with mediums. They'll
Speaker 5: tell a medium, they'll feed them downloaded information to prophesy
Speaker 5: to you. And not only when you believe that prophecy
Speaker 5: as possible, your belief, your desire acts as a level
Speaker 5: of consent to be given to these entities so that
Speaker 5: they can now work in your life to fulfill these prophecies.
Speaker 1: More.
Speaker 2: I like to say too, say you know, because Jesus
Speaker 2: yeaked about in the Bible so many times he told
Speaker 2: the people, your faith has made you well you know,
Speaker 2: so just they're exactly it is like, you know, the
Speaker 2: opposite of loush is good energy.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, but if you're putting your belief in the wrong thing,
Speaker 5: you're empowering the negative beings, which and that's why the
Speaker 5: Bible talks about not doing these practices divination of any kind.
Speaker 5: Just because they get some hits occasionally, which they get
Speaker 5: more misses than hits, doesn't mean that they are have
Speaker 5: ability to see the future, and they want you to
Speaker 5: believe they can see the future Part four, if we
Speaker 5: get there as a time travel debunk but that's a
Speaker 5: whole other conversation we're getting there. But yeah, so they're
Speaker 5: a high mind. They can share information instantly to all
Speaker 5: their entities. That's what I believe that's important here for
Speaker 5: how they carry this out. They have a data collection.
Speaker 5: They're in Etheric AI essentially where they can collect data.
Speaker 5: They are data collectors, just like our phones. But they
Speaker 5: can collect our thoughts and our memories and all the
Speaker 5: actions they witness as part of their data. So if
Speaker 5: you have access to everybody's thoughts and memories, except I
Speaker 5: think Holy Spirit protected people have some degree or very
Speaker 5: strong degree of protection. And I have my reasons for
Speaker 5: that we don't need to get into today. But if
Speaker 5: they and I'm saying they can access all our thoughts
Speaker 5: and memories one, because it just makes with how they
Speaker 5: carry these things out and what they've been known to
Speaker 5: influence our minds already. Of course they can probably read
Speaker 5: them as well as right onto them. But also because
Speaker 5: in the astral lore in episode one, these guides admit
Speaker 5: to their human context. They admit that they can access
Speaker 5: all our thoughts and memories. It's the Acachek records, but
Speaker 5: it's no big deal. It's just an invasion of privacy.
Speaker 5: But we're all connected to source. What does it matter.
Speaker 5: So they admit that they have that ability. But if
Speaker 5: they're not GUIDs, they're demons, and if they're admitting this,
Speaker 5: they're kind of showing their cards a little bit too much,
Speaker 5: and that goes a long way. Consent law is also
Speaker 5: something that most people understand for the most part. The
Speaker 5: more you sin, the more you do divination, the more
Speaker 5: you do whatever to open doors to God's stand or not.
Speaker 5: Your standard of sin is the more you are giving
Speaker 5: consents to be influenced and also affected and inflicted in your.
Speaker 1: Life by these entities. To guide you.
Speaker 5: And the last thing is the vision control and downloads.
Speaker 5: Like we talked about that already the summary of episode
Speaker 5: one and two. They have this vision control which applies
Speaker 5: to ash will travel remote viewing, the holistic healing visions,
Speaker 5: which are essentially remote viewing.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing regression based.
Speaker 5: This is a hypnotic regression where you go into a
Speaker 5: trance state have a third eye type vision, which is
Speaker 5: what we're covering a lot today in the regression context,
Speaker 5: not till probably the second hour, but we will cover
Speaker 5: quite a bit of that and show the patterns that
Speaker 5: are happening.
Speaker 1: So that's all stuff people.
Speaker 5: Need to understand before I lay out my theory, which
Speaker 5: I'll do in just a minute, and then we'll get
Speaker 5: into the evidence afterwards. So first I like to start
Speaker 5: out talking about the because we're going to be talking
Speaker 5: about the children first reincarnation cases and Ian Stevenson work,
Speaker 5: which he is the Ian Stevenson is the top world's
Speaker 5: leading reincarnation researcher and data compiler, and you know, well
Speaker 5: intentioned man, I'm sure, but he is. He He has
Speaker 5: twenty five hundred cases in his data banks, and most
Speaker 5: a lot of those a few hundred at least, he
Speaker 5: visited himself in person and would meet the families of
Speaker 5: the child who's claiming to have reincarnation memories always always
Speaker 5: maximum they're six years old, usually two to four, two
Speaker 5: to five at that age, and that's important we'll get
Speaker 5: into in a minute. And he has he doesn't take
Speaker 5: regression like memories because he thinks one adult can lie
Speaker 5: and children can't lie to these degrees.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe these kids are lying.
Speaker 5: But also he just thinks kids are a more pure
Speaker 5: way to get this information, as weird as that might sound,
Speaker 5: and I agree with him. Overall, the evidence in his
Speaker 5: cases are much more, much stronger than the evidence for
Speaker 5: reincarnation in regression cases, much stronger. So that's what we're
Speaker 5: going to attack first. But I do want to say
Speaker 5: that people don't talk about this layer, and I think
Speaker 5: this is very important that the brainwave state a child
Speaker 5: is in from different ages actually changes automatically as you age.
Speaker 5: And I'm being very general when I say this, so
Speaker 5: it's not exact to the exact day, but overall this
Speaker 5: is summarized accurately. Zero to two year olds in that
Speaker 5: you know baby state are in the delta brainwave brainwave state.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they.
Speaker 5: Are in a that is zero point five to three
Speaker 5: point five four hertz pretty much constantly, which is like
Speaker 5: a waking sleeping state. Now, two to six year olds,
Speaker 5: which is the age group that exclusively all of these
Speaker 5: childhood past life memories are coming from in Ian Stevenson's work.
Speaker 5: Internets told me one hundred percent of them. It might
Speaker 5: be a little bit outside of that, but one hundred
Speaker 5: percent of them. According to the Internet and my research
Speaker 5: here has said that of Ian Stevenson's cases are between
Speaker 5: two and six years old. Now, between two and six
Speaker 5: years old, you are specifically in a theta brainwave state
Speaker 5: most of the waking hours.
Speaker 1: A Theta brainwave state is four to eight hurts.
Speaker 5: That theta brainwave state is exactly the brainwave state you
Speaker 5: need to be in to do actional projection, deep meditations,
Speaker 5: channeling entities, remote viewing. Any of these divination practices that
Speaker 5: lead to ensity contact or supernatural a bit all take
Speaker 5: place in the theater of brainway state, which these two
Speaker 5: to six year olds are pretty much always in for
Speaker 5: most of their waking hours as a baselin.
Speaker 1: It is crazy no one talks about that.
Speaker 2: Was just talking the other day he was on a
Speaker 2: road trip and we talk about all kinds of different stuff,
Speaker 2: but we got on the subject of ghosts and how
Speaker 2: it seems like children and.
Speaker 1: Or dogs they see them way more ones.
Speaker 2: That see them. And it's like, I wonder if it's
Speaker 2: maybe just like a state of innocence or something like
Speaker 2: that you've not been corrupted by you know, different teachings
Speaker 2: and theology and uh, but it is. It seems like
Speaker 2: a pattern you can notice.
Speaker 5: Yep, and it goes away after these years pass, and
Speaker 5: they're early, like before they're a teenager, always before puberty or.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I think inherit the Kingdom of Heaven, you had to
Speaker 2: be like one of these smile children, you know, like
Speaker 2: the faith of a child.
Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, yeah, man. It's it's an interesting correlation.
Speaker 5: And I'll just finish by saying that six to twelve
Speaker 5: year olds after that theta brainway state are typically in
Speaker 5: mostly alpha brainway states, and then twelve to eighteen plus
Speaker 5: is going into alpha and mostly beta brainwave states.
Speaker 1: Your consciousness is.
Speaker 5: Quote unquote raising as you age, and that is a
Speaker 5: you know, overall summary of what it actually is for
Speaker 5: everybody on the planet. So two to six year olds
Speaker 5: are getting these downloaded past life memories or they're accessing
Speaker 5: their real ones to you know, one of the two.
Speaker 5: But you can decide for yourself after listening to some
Speaker 5: case studies. So I'll just lay out what I think
Speaker 5: is going on here for the vast majority of cases,
Speaker 5: and then I'll get into a more controversial theory and
Speaker 5: then for to account for a smaller portion of them,
Speaker 5: and then we'll get into evidence. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: lay out, keep in mind everything we've gone over that
Speaker 5: applied to the first two episodes, here's what I think
Speaker 5: is going on for most of them. Because thirty percent
Speaker 5: of these twenty five hundred cases of Stevenson's have thirty
Speaker 5: or thirty five have birthmarks where let's say they have
Speaker 5: a birthmark of a this is true of a slash
Speaker 5: across the neck, like a line across their neck. That
Speaker 5: means when they access their past life memory, that person
Speaker 5: with the slash or across the neck actually got decapitated,
Speaker 5: So this is their next life showing the death wound
Speaker 5: show up as some sort of a sign of their
Speaker 5: of their death, you know, to leave a bread crumb
Speaker 5: of evidence, I suppose of reincarnation. Even though they wipe
Speaker 5: our memories and want us to forget, they want us
Speaker 5: to kind of figure it out. I guess it's weird,
Speaker 5: and create all this Lord, create all this Lord to
Speaker 5: guide us to reincarnation. Believes even though if we're getting
Speaker 5: our memories wipe, don't we're not supposed to know because
Speaker 5: it affects with the test.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway.
Speaker 5: And some people will have like a hole in their chest,
Speaker 5: like a or like a or like a little patch,
Speaker 5: and then they might have one on their back as well,
Speaker 5: and that's a gunshot wound, right, or it'll it'll be
Speaker 5: all sorts of things. But they'll whenever they get a
Speaker 5: past life death memory, it'll match their birthmark a certain
Speaker 5: percentage of the time. Like I said, this is only
Speaker 5: thirty thirty five percent of the cases have this. The
Speaker 5: rest of them do not, so the rest of them
Speaker 5: are much easier. Now, how can you explain these birthmarks
Speaker 5: if they are not truly from a past life death wound. Well,
Speaker 5: if demons can access all the memories of deaths because
Speaker 5: they are a hive mind and they have a database
Speaker 5: like an AI high mind borg, they can just identify
Speaker 5: a few things. One, they can have to identify children
Speaker 5: who are alive with birth marks, so well, they can
Speaker 5: just look at you while you're alive currently and do that.
Speaker 5: That's not hard for them to do if you already
Speaker 5: have a birthmark.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: And part two, they search their perfect memory, which they
Speaker 5: have with for any data on anybody who died in the.
Speaker 1: Past few years.
Speaker 5: Now, whenever reincarnation cases come up, they typically have a
Speaker 5: three year gap max. Of the last life death to
Speaker 5: the next life birth. Usually it's around eighteen sixteen months,
Speaker 5: I believe, but they can sometimes be five year gap
Speaker 5: or even a twenty plus year gap. But the vast
Speaker 5: majority ninety five ninety six percent of care between three years.
Speaker 1: Right, and most of those cases.
Speaker 5: Not all of them, are the lives of the people
Speaker 5: are one hundred miles away max. Usually maybe two hundred,
Speaker 5: but usually about twenty twoe hundred miles away. Now, I
Speaker 5: think that's strategically done because then you can be more
Speaker 5: likely to meet your past life family, which they do
Speaker 5: and validate and get data.
Speaker 1: To support it.
Speaker 5: Because what they do is in these cases Ian Stevenson
Speaker 5: research is not all of them, but a lot of them.
Speaker 1: He'll take the child to their past life.
Speaker 5: Family who is usually one hundred miles away max, and
Speaker 5: they will meet them and then they'll try to quiz
Speaker 5: them and see how much stuff they get right, and
Speaker 5: they get a lot right, not all of it, but
Speaker 5: they get most of it. And this is because they're
Speaker 5: what like like, for example, maybe a sister of the
Speaker 5: past life personality will show up and be like, hey,
Speaker 5: who was I. They'll be like you were my sister
Speaker 5: and they'll be like, no way, how'd you know that?
Speaker 5: Or an aunt will come up and be like, hey,
Speaker 5: I was your sister too, and they'd be like, no,
Speaker 5: you're my aunt, Brenda.
Speaker 1: You're lying and they'll be like, whoa you got me?
Speaker 1: How did you know that?
Speaker 5: Like, they'll try to trip them up, and they'll usually
Speaker 5: get it right. And that's very press if that's very
Speaker 5: seemingly indicating of reincarnation memories or or under a second alternative,
Speaker 5: the collective consent that everybody's giving and belief in this
Speaker 5: story and wanting desiring to find out their past life personality.
Speaker 5: They're desiring to be lied to by demons essentially in
Speaker 5: the consent law form, and they are giving up consents
Speaker 5: so that now this download that already happened in a
Speaker 5: child who's open and usually a pagan country and a
Speaker 5: pagan family who does pagan rituals. Often this is the
Speaker 5: you know, these are the parents of the child who
Speaker 5: are getting these downloaded memories which are then leaving their
Speaker 5: child unprotected from spiritual forces in a theta brainwave state.
Speaker 5: And this is happening in those countries obviously more than
Speaker 5: Christian countries, way more. Not being a Christian totally protects you,
Speaker 5: of course, if you're not living a quite a good life.
Speaker 5: So they are now being influenced by the demons to
Speaker 5: give them thoughts and downloads whenever they are prompted for
Speaker 5: this information. That's what I believe is happening, and that's
Speaker 5: totally possible with everything that we know is within their
Speaker 5: capabilities right. So identify children with a birth mark easy too.
Speaker 5: Search for anybody who died within one hundred miles away
Speaker 5: within the last three years. For the most cases, who
Speaker 5: died and had a wound in the same spot as
Speaker 5: this person's birthmark. Within all the people dying everywhere in
Speaker 5: the many years of our existence, it is not too
Speaker 5: hard to find people with death wounds that would match
Speaker 5: these birth marks. And keep in mind, only thirty percent
Speaker 5: or so of cases, so it's not all of them, right,
Speaker 5: So if they don't have a birthmark, which is most
Speaker 5: of them, you don't even need to do all this
Speaker 5: like correlations here. You could just impress the death memory
Speaker 5: of anybody that you want at that point. So and
Speaker 5: a lot of people who get their death memory of
Speaker 5: a past life, they'll have some maybe physical traumatic death,
Speaker 5: and then they won't have a birthmark. So why are
Speaker 5: so many not having birth marks? In so many are
Speaker 5: And we'll get into some wounds that leave birth marks
Speaker 5: which don't even make any sense in the next few minutes.
Speaker 5: So then they just have to impress the core relating
Speaker 5: death memory of whoever they want, which they can either
Speaker 5: they might be able to just transfer the actual memory
Speaker 5: from the person they've collected in their data collection, or
Speaker 5: they might just be creating one that's close enough to
Speaker 5: what really happened because they were probably witnessing this death
Speaker 5: go down, as they seem to be around for a
Speaker 5: lot of events.
Speaker 1: I feel like deaths and murders are something they would be.
Speaker 5: Visualizing and seeing themselves and collecting into their databases.
Speaker 1: So that is enough.
Speaker 5: I think all these capabilities keeping in mind, which we've
Speaker 5: kind of proven as much as we can based on
Speaker 5: cases that they have. That explains the vast majority of
Speaker 5: these cases. And there are a few cases which are
Speaker 5: well one specific I'm about to get into, which is
Speaker 5: much more, much more seemingly indicating of evidence that I'm
Speaker 5: going to break down in a second. I didn't know
Speaker 5: if you had any questions for me so far, any comments, my.
Speaker 2: Dude, Nope, nope, you keep right on. A hear of
Speaker 2: them searching sick right here?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm rolling, I'm vibing, let's do it. Okay.
Speaker 5: So that's what I think accounts for the vast, vast
Speaker 5: majority of these reincarnation cases because that covers all the
Speaker 5: bases in my opinion, and I'm not biased. Part two
Speaker 5: or strategy too that I think I really believe this,
Speaker 5: and it's hard to prove it because it's a lot
Speaker 5: of speculation and people are gonna hate on me for it,
Speaker 5: but whatever, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Just hear me out.
Speaker 5: Two is I think they can create these birthmarks on
Speaker 5: occasion in the fetus in the womb while they're connected
Speaker 5: to a mother who is likely a pagan occultist of
Speaker 5: some sort, which is often the case. I believe they
Speaker 5: can affect what is essentially the they call it the melnocytes,
Speaker 5: which are the I might be saying that wrong, which
Speaker 5: are the pigment cells in our body. It's just when
Speaker 5: they abnormally cluster and feed fetal development is when they
Speaker 5: show up as birthmarks. It's not super invasive honestly, as
Speaker 5: something to influence, and we know demons can influence our
Speaker 5: download information into us. They can affect our chemical feelings
Speaker 5: of joy and fear and all these things that make
Speaker 5: us feel certain types of way, which is affecting our
Speaker 5: chemical makeup in a physical way to a degree. We
Speaker 5: know they can read our minds. They can and write
Speaker 5: memories onto our minds. They can affect our whole astraal
Speaker 5: spiritual experiences. Can they affect our fetal development?
Speaker 1: Well, let's uh, let's see.
Speaker 5: So here's a reason I think so. Here's one of
Speaker 5: the many reasons. For example, Nathaniel Gillis my boy, talks
Speaker 5: about this one story, and there's many cases of things
Speaker 5: like this where people will do astral travel or have
Speaker 5: some sort of spiritual encounter and it will be completely
Speaker 5: non physical. Yet when it's over or an astral production
Speaker 5: even when it's over, they will wake up or come
Speaker 5: back from it with physical manifestations, physical marks, scratches, bruises,
Speaker 5: sometimes subdermal marks rising from the surface, which is what
Speaker 5: Gillis talks about here.
Speaker 1: He talks about this.
Speaker 5: One guy going out of body doing his astral work
Speaker 5: or whatever with his guides that he's had for a
Speaker 5: long time, and something sketchy happened, I don't remember what
Speaker 5: where he essentially starts questioning the identity of his guides
Speaker 5: and trust and not really trusting them and seeing them
Speaker 5: as maybe mischievous deceivers. And as soon as he thinks
Speaker 5: this in his head and starts distrusting them, obviously they
Speaker 5: can read his mind, like I've said, and they instantly
Speaker 5: shape shift into you know, scary monstrous type creatures and
Speaker 5: they start attacking him in the astral. Now, this astral
Speaker 5: attack feels like real pain, which just like in dreams,
Speaker 5: he can feel real pain, it's seemingly so. And he
Speaker 5: woke up from this astral attack having specific calculated sigils
Speaker 5: imprinted on his body, rising subdermally as like red marks.
Speaker 5: And he says that there was an Egyptian hieroglyph next
Speaker 5: to a star of David quote.
Speaker 1: Unquote, you know, starrem fan, whatever you want.
Speaker 5: To call it, as well as a cross which might
Speaker 5: have been the Rosy cross, I don't remember, but it
Speaker 5: was three calculated specific imprints, not just random bruises that
Speaker 5: were rising out of his body.
Speaker 1: And there's pictures of this.
Speaker 5: I don't have him on me, but he has documentation
Speaker 5: of this, And there's multiple cases out there you can
Speaker 5: research where people have similar things. That's just a specific
Speaker 5: one showing calculated control. Now, if they can rise specific
Speaker 5: sigils and imprint them on the body after natural attack
Speaker 5: for whatever reason that may be, if it's like an
Speaker 5: ownership branding thing, I don't know, but whatever reason it
Speaker 5: may be, it's documented. And if they could do that,
Speaker 5: can they also mess with the clustering of pigment cells
Speaker 5: in our fetal development to a you know mother who's
Speaker 5: open in the sense spiritually to these influences?
Speaker 1: And is there any is the desire of the mother
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 5: Who their child was in a past life, acting at
Speaker 5: all as some sort of consent form to impress false
Speaker 5: information onto their child. It seems to be the case.
Speaker 5: It seems to be absolutely possible. This is why you know,
Speaker 5: God says, don't seek divination, don't put your belief in
Speaker 5: the wrong gods, because they will get rights legally to
Speaker 5: deceive you. So I think that's one reason, and there's more,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna I want to make sure I'm getting
Speaker 5: all the dots here because it's so much information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got enough, okay.
Speaker 5: So another case that supports this kind of is one
Speaker 5: in Ian Stevenson's book, The twenty Case is suggestive of reincarnation,
Speaker 5: which is very convincing on its face, for sure, And
Speaker 5: whenever you read that, there's this one story where an
Speaker 5: uncle I forgot his name is hanging out with his
Speaker 5: niece and his nephew in law having lunch or dinner,
Speaker 5: and they're eating and the uncle is telling his niece
Speaker 5: that he's gonna die soon, and when he does, he
Speaker 5: prefers he would like to reincarnate as her son. Now
Speaker 5: a little creepy, a little weird, maybe wholesome in his head.
Speaker 5: I don't like the sound of it. He's just saying, Oh,
Speaker 5: our current relationship dynamic isn't quite what I want it
Speaker 5: to be, but your son would be I think I'd
Speaker 5: be much happier, a little weird, whatever, we'll surpass that
Speaker 5: for the moment. But he says this before he dies,
Speaker 5: and he says, if I become your son, you will
Speaker 5: know because I will have birthmarks. I'll have a big
Speaker 5: one going down the center of my spine and a
Speaker 5: smaller one next to it, which are surgical wounds that
Speaker 5: he had after a big surgery on his spine where
Speaker 5: he had I don't remember what it was, but it
Speaker 5: was some spinal surgery where he now has a big
Speaker 5: scar going down the center of it, which is a
Speaker 5: pretty big indicator.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: So he dies not long after, and she gets pregnant,
Speaker 5: has a son not long after that.
Speaker 1: Within a few years, the son.
Speaker 5: Of hers had the exact scars this man predicted. Now,
Speaker 5: on the face that seems like great evidence of reincarnation.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, I get it, But burp, but.
Speaker 5: Why why is it that it is his death, not
Speaker 5: his death marks, but his surgical wounds that are showing
Speaker 5: up here. I've never seen a lot of I don't
Speaker 5: see many cases promoting that concept. And if his if
Speaker 5: your wounds from a past life are also carried over,
Speaker 5: then all death wounds should have carryovers, which, by the way,
Speaker 5: a lot of people relive death memories. When they get
Speaker 5: the past life memory and they have a death memory,
Speaker 5: a lot of them will have a a death that
Speaker 5: was very violent, very violent, and have no birth marks.
Speaker 1: So why are those not transferring over many of them?
Speaker 5: And why is it your non death related wounds are
Speaker 5: also carrying over. Now, now keep in mind, this man
Speaker 5: pre consented to having his identity stolen.
Speaker 1: By these entities.
Speaker 5: He pre prophesied that he would have these wounds on
Speaker 5: him which are not death wounds, and his belief, his
Speaker 5: consent to allowing his identity to be taken. Here with
Speaker 5: this false belief system and the mothers probably false belief
Speaker 5: in it as well, I think access consent for them
Speaker 5: to imprint this imprint, this birthmark based on what we
Speaker 5: know their abilities to be from all the case studies.
Speaker 1: So I think it's absolutely possible.
Speaker 5: And I think that this is why your belief and
Speaker 5: quote unquote manifestations are so so powerful. They are we
Speaker 5: live in illegally metaphysical legal frameworked universe. But if you're
Speaker 5: giving your belief and power and consent to the wrong entities,
Speaker 5: they will utilize that to deceive you, which is what
Speaker 5: is going on in the astral constantly if your non
Speaker 5: death wounds carry over. Not only should birth marks in
Speaker 5: general be way, way way more common, but like let's say,
Speaker 5: after here's Hiroshima, Nagasaki, whether that was nukes or not.
Speaker 5: I know there's some people out there don't believe in him.
Speaker 5: I was on that team for a short time, but
Speaker 5: I don't know about that now, whether it was a
Speaker 5: nuke or not. Many people were blown the hell up,
Speaker 5: tens of thousands of people in this area in this
Speaker 5: time of the Nagasaki bombings.
Speaker 1: And then you also have like, like.
Speaker 5: Why wouldn't why wouldn't there be a ton of babies
Speaker 5: being born within one to three years of that time period,
Speaker 5: within one hundred miles, which there should be according to
Speaker 5: the data. Why isn't there a ton of people showing
Speaker 5: up with birthmarks that are explosive. It's showing like variations
Speaker 5: and skin tone that are very dramatic. Why isn't there
Speaker 5: a large surplus of this if even death or even
Speaker 5: non death winds show up, these crazy explosive death winds
Speaker 5: should be showing up on a lot of people, and
Speaker 5: we don't see a large surplus of these cases at
Speaker 5: all or almost any in these areas after Nagasaki and
Speaker 5: also after large wars. Shouldn't there be tons of children
Speaker 5: born within one to three years of these large war
Speaker 5: locations within one hundred miles having you know, bullet wound
Speaker 5: looking birthmarks and explosive birth marks and all these graphic deaths,
Speaker 5: if even non death wounds show up. So there is
Speaker 5: no database I can find of this. I try to
Speaker 5: do research. Is there any like collection of like people
Speaker 5: near each other having the same types of birth marks
Speaker 5: or many large.
Speaker 1: Cases of them.
Speaker 5: No, it's still relatively rare. And you would think that
Speaker 5: if this guy's surgical marks transferred over after he prophesied it,
Speaker 5: that would equal birth marks be a much more common thing.
Speaker 1: Which you know, I'm summarizing a lot of information here.
Speaker 5: You can say I'm stretching the truth or whatever, but
Speaker 5: I've done the research, and I suggest you do the
Speaker 5: same and see if you can find much different information.
Speaker 1: That's what I think accounts for these cases.
Speaker 2: And I lost my legs and I died, and then
Speaker 2: I came back without my legs. As a man's life,
Speaker 2: i'd be past.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, rightfully, but you know it's crazy, man. Not
Speaker 5: a lot but a handful of cases I've seen will
Speaker 5: have someone being born with like a stumpy hand, you know,
Speaker 5: their fingers will be like, you know, very tiny and
Speaker 5: not grown out, and they'll have a stump hand, and
Speaker 5: then their past life memory will be impressed upon them
Speaker 5: and they got their hand chopped off in the last life.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, wait, why is that even make any sense?
Speaker 5: Why is it that you had that and you're supposed
Speaker 5: to comically balance for what you've done to people, But
Speaker 5: you're a victim to a crime and now you're a
Speaker 5: victim again in the next life, which doesn't make any
Speaker 5: sense because they're all about balancing and making sure everything's fair.
Speaker 5: So usually whenever you're a victim to something, they make
Speaker 5: sure you're a perpetrator to that same crime in the
Speaker 5: next life, if anything, which is also weird in a
Speaker 5: way because there's no real retribution there. But they and
Speaker 5: that's one example, and they do other things. But why
Speaker 5: is it that this dude, They just gave this guy
Speaker 5: a past life memory to match it, so it seemed more,
Speaker 5: it seemed more solidified, it seemed more believable. Oh, that
Speaker 5: explains why have the stump hand. I'm like, not really, like,
Speaker 5: it doesn't make sense. Why they would allow that to
Speaker 5: happen as you're as you're the what's it called the
Speaker 5: ascended masters that you're encountering or the higher elder beings
Speaker 5: in these realms that are helping you play your incarnations.
Speaker 5: Which we're about to get into that in a bit,
Speaker 5: that whole lore. But before we do, we've got a
Speaker 5: couple more things. One, here's another sketchy thing. Split consciousness lore. Now,
Speaker 5: this is something where one example of this is that
Speaker 5: is famous is the Jamison Twins from a couple decades back.
Speaker 5: And the Jamison Twins actually, I guess like two decades
Speaker 5: or so. They got famous because they both claimed to
Speaker 5: be sharing one soul. They had one soul and it
Speaker 5: split between the two of them, and they both incarnated
Speaker 5: as twins intentionally to do this. Now, they also said
Speaker 5: that they shared telepathic abilities with each other and psychic
Speaker 5: abilities in general. And another thing they said is they
Speaker 5: both predicted nine to eleven in a prophetic dream vision.
Speaker 1: By the way, if I.
Speaker 5: Had a nickel for everybody who had a prophetic dream
Speaker 5: of nine to eleven, I'd be a wealthy middle class
Speaker 5: at least man. By the way, I would be because
Speaker 5: so many people had that now. Nine to eleven obviously
Speaker 5: was known about by many humans before it happened, let
Speaker 5: alone the spirit realm, who obviously likely had a hand
Speaker 5: in it. Now, if they had a hand in it,
Speaker 5: and they had the ability to impress false memories onto
Speaker 5: people in dreams and visions, why don't they just jack
Speaker 5: into people, give them a prophetic seeming dream and everybody goes,
Speaker 5: oh my god, I must look into the psychic stuff.
Speaker 5: It must be real because house to explain this, it's
Speaker 5: a way to segue you. It's a way to gateway
Speaker 5: drug you into this whole set of lore. It's very
Speaker 5: easy for them to deal. So that's what I think
Speaker 5: is going on there, because a lot of people had
Speaker 5: that testimony. Now, these Jameis and twins claim to have
Speaker 5: that testimony. They came to be telepathic with each other,
Speaker 5: and they claim to share soul. They also claimed believe
Speaker 5: it or not to know this because they shared the
Speaker 5: same past life memories. They relived the same past life memories,
Speaker 5: which must mean they're telling the truth or or demons
Speaker 5: are giving two guys the same memory and you know,
Speaker 5: making them look like jackasses.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 5: Now, what's weird here is when you look into Hinduism
Speaker 5: and Buddhism and Seekhism and all the more ancient original
Speaker 5: incarnation based belief systems, which are all derived from entity
Speaker 5: contact channeling and out of body travel. Keep in mind
Speaker 5: the same way this modern stuff is all those belief
Speaker 5: systems teach of like subsequent, one life after the next.
Speaker 5: You start as like, you know, grass rocks, and go
Speaker 5: up to insects, and then small animals and big animals,
Speaker 5: and then maybe a dog if you're lucky, and then
Speaker 5: you're a human.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: They teach it go as an order, and now the
Speaker 5: modern stuff is like, no, you can go out of
Speaker 5: order back in time future. There's no time, so it
Speaker 5: doesn't exist, and you don't really. Some people teach you
Speaker 5: can downgrade and be a human, then go down into
Speaker 5: a lower animal if you're bad, But some teach that, no,
Speaker 5: you always go up and raise your consciousness no matter what,
Speaker 5: and you'll stay a human.
Speaker 1: For a while till you figure it out. So that's
Speaker 1: a divergence.
Speaker 5: And another thing is that the old stuff does not
Speaker 5: teach of split split, splitting your consciousness into multiple bodies.
Speaker 5: You cannot do that according to the old lore, even theosophy,
Speaker 5: which isn't that old. It's from the eighteen hundreds even
Speaker 5: that denies split consciousness. But in the modern stuff, which
Speaker 5: is more goofy and outlandish, the modern channeled information, they
Speaker 5: a lot of channeled.
Speaker 1: Entities push this idea.
Speaker 5: The Seth material, for example, no relation from Jane Roberts
Speaker 5: and quite a few others.
Speaker 1: Raw material I.
Speaker 5: Believe does which I've did a whole cross examination in
Speaker 5: my book on these things. But yeah, they change their
Speaker 5: teachings and update them for modern audiences to get crazier,
Speaker 5: and also make excuses for whenever they slip up maybe
Speaker 5: and give people the wrong things. But these twins, I
Speaker 5: think it was intentional to create this lore. Even Robert
Speaker 5: Monroe in the first part claim to have a split
Speaker 5: consciousness because his higher self told him this. His higher
Speaker 5: self tells them, hey, we want you to do this
Speaker 5: great mission in the astrouom finds a new homeworld whatever.
Speaker 5: And then they say that, oh, by the way, there's
Speaker 5: a backup girl who's born sharing your soul right now.
Speaker 5: But she's our backup in case you fail. But you're
Speaker 5: not gonna fail. You're gonna do great. We want you
Speaker 5: to do it, but just in case we have a backup.
Speaker 5: They even told him that, and I'm barely paraphrasing that.
Speaker 5: So the modern sources teach this more so than the
Speaker 5: ancient original also entity contact sources, So it's just a
Speaker 5: little bit divergence that doesn't really make any sense. If
Speaker 5: you can reincarnate that way and share your soul, sometimes
Speaker 5: it's with your twin or it'll be with a twin flame,
Speaker 5: which is like a soulmate that you're supposed to find
Speaker 5: and then bang forever, which is the ultimate form of
Speaker 5: narcissism if I've ever seen anything. And also sometimes just
Speaker 5: random apparently just like Monroe's, but it just seems to
Speaker 5: be loosely described in many different ways.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna find opinion, I might throw you off a
Speaker 2: little bit, but I no do it. I want to
Speaker 2: already in the chat throwing up some questions, and this
Speaker 2: is something that I've stumbled upon through different conversations and
Speaker 2: it's made me stop and think I haven't really come
Speaker 2: up with a theory yet or pondered on it too hard.
Speaker 2: But far as reincarnation goes, We've had a couple of
Speaker 2: people in the chat bring up Elisha, how Jesus said that,
Speaker 2: you know, John the Baptist had the spirit of Elisha.
Speaker 2: So some people will say, well, that kind of goes
Speaker 2: with reincarnation. So Elisha came back as John and Jesus
Speaker 2: even said that, you know. But then at the same time,
Speaker 2: that very same book says it's appointed to man to
Speaker 2: die once you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which which which would seemingly be divergence and an
Speaker 5: incompatibility or a hypocritical thing in the Bible. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: don't I'm not going to say I have the right
Speaker 5: answer there. I think there's quite a few assumptions that
Speaker 5: you can make from that.
Speaker 1: And there's also the story of the.
Speaker 5: Blind guy who was born blind and you know, they
Speaker 5: what did they say it was because of his past
Speaker 5: transgressions or something. I'm getting that wrong, but there was
Speaker 5: There's these verses you can cherry pick and say, oh,
Speaker 5: that's evidence of reincarnation in the Bible, And I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: first of all, the whole Bible promotes the one life.
Speaker 5: Hebrews nine twenty seven is very clear about it. So
Speaker 5: that either either as one the Bible has discrepancies and
Speaker 5: it is not, you know, completely protected by the law,
Speaker 5: which I disagree with. I think it was for many
Speaker 5: many reasons we can spend an hour on. But I
Speaker 5: think that's something more poetic might be the wrong word,
Speaker 5: but more metaphorical, metaphorical that is not necessarily meant to
Speaker 5: be taken literally as a literally, No, this is the
Speaker 5: reincarnation of him. Like I said, everything in the Bible
Speaker 5: is against reincarnation. That is the deception from the other
Speaker 5: side of entities. I'm not gonna say I have the
Speaker 5: right answer there, but you can easily say that that
Speaker 5: is a more poetic thing, or maybe they have similar hearts,
Speaker 5: character traits, etc. That can be said he has a
Speaker 5: spirit of him. In that sense, there's no reason to
Speaker 5: say that you can for sure guarantee that means reincarnation.
Speaker 1: And if it does, then that makes the.
Speaker 5: Whole Bible up for question, which I'm a full Bible
Speaker 5: thumper for many reasons. Outside of dogma. I'm coming from
Speaker 5: a Gnostic viewpoint from the past. Keep in mind, so yeah,
Speaker 5: I've heard arguments on it, and I don't have anything
Speaker 5: memorized quite on that, but I've heard arguments that totally
Speaker 5: makes sense hermeneutically. When you and I'd be interested in
Speaker 5: seeing what the original Greek or Hebrew of that was
Speaker 5: to see if those translations are perfectly done. But even
Speaker 5: if even so, there's still ways you can interpret that
Speaker 5: that are not literal and reincarnation based. I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: say I have the perfect answer there though, but thank
Speaker 5: you for asking.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and which the guy I was talking about.
Speaker 2: There's a couple in here talking about one of them, Daniel,
Speaker 2: He's one of my regulars. He came in and just
Speaker 2: said this just no. We answered that the spirit is
Speaker 2: not the soul. I just wanted to pick sess brain.
Speaker 2: I knew what you guys were thinking. Oh, well, messages.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He was saying that his theory was, if I understood
Speaker 2: it correctly, is that there's a difference. There is a
Speaker 2: soul and there is a spirit.
Speaker 1: And I buy it to that.
Speaker 2: Spirit of Elijah came that was not the soul, That
Speaker 2: there are two distinct, separate things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be like, I mean, maybe this is wrong,
Speaker 5: but it could be like a Holy Spirit coming to
Speaker 5: dwell within you. This is the Spirit of Elijah maybe
Speaker 5: interacting from that area and being, you know, influencing you
Speaker 5: such as the Holy Spirit would. Maybe maybe I don't know,
Speaker 5: but I'm not like Dan Duvall who says, you can
Speaker 5: ask your spirit to integrate with your soul, which you're
Speaker 5: the soul and the spirits on the outside of you,
Speaker 5: and he asked for people to integrate with it so
Speaker 5: that you can uh get the more metaphysical power powers
Speaker 5: maybe the wrong word, but get their influence and their
Speaker 5: guidance from you, which is you know, higher self rebranding
Speaker 5: for Christians.
Speaker 1: Uh, I don't believe that stuff. That's where or I
Speaker 1: would draw the line.
Speaker 5: But I do see us as I could try you
Speaker 5: and like God, you know, body, flesh, soul and spirit. Sure,
Speaker 5: I'm totally open to that. Because animals, right, they have
Speaker 5: they have uh one of the one of the two, right,
Speaker 5: but they're not they don't have like the spirit of
Speaker 5: God within them. But they seem to have a soul
Speaker 5: or spirit I don't remember which is which, but they
Speaker 5: seem to have one to empower their life.
Speaker 1: See what do I know.
Speaker 2: The past life when they were eating real bad salaries
Speaker 2: go to that stomach.
Speaker 5: And that's a that's a very reasonable way to look
Speaker 5: at it. Absolutely So yeah. Man, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: silly stuff out here in the reincarnation lore. And another
Speaker 5: one which I think is very insightful because this is
Speaker 5: a quote for Ian Stevenson in one of his books,
Speaker 5: and he has multiple times he's talked about this.
Speaker 1: He's on full articles on these topics.
Speaker 5: People like to use him as like, you know, a
Speaker 5: way to support reincarnation, and they never bring up this part.
Speaker 5: No one I ever hear on the you know pro
Speaker 5: reincarnation side ever brings us up.
Speaker 1: And it's very interesting.
Speaker 5: One of his quotes from one of his books says
Speaker 5: foreign spirits as in ghosts, you know, roaming the earthplane.
Speaker 5: Foreign spirits can occupy living persons, completely displace original personalities,
Speaker 5: and persist indefinitely. So he's talking about ghost possession, not demons.
Speaker 5: He doesn't believe in demons, but he believes ghosts will
Speaker 5: possess people and live out their lives in these new
Speaker 5: bodies as opposed to reincarnating going to the high rum.
Speaker 5: So they'll be roaming the earthplane and they'll find an
Speaker 5: open window where someone maybe had an end or something,
Speaker 5: and then they'll slide in and take over.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't believe.
Speaker 2: You're just walking around and won't drive this car for
Speaker 2: a little while, get out.
Speaker 5: No, exactly the grand theft auto your body, which is
Speaker 5: kind of an intrusive and immoral I would say, but
Speaker 5: you know, their ghosts, they don't really have a lot
Speaker 5: of morals, it seems.
Speaker 2: But he in the spirit world.
Speaker 1: I love it. It's amen. So yeah.
Speaker 5: And Stevenson even created this formal typology ranging from temporary
Speaker 5: possession to permanent possession that he classified as reincarnation and
Speaker 5: he has a whole like breakdown on this thing. So
Speaker 5: my point in saying this is the top reincarnation believer
Speaker 5: evidence bringer that people quote acknowledges possession to account for
Speaker 5: many of these cases. And I'll go over a couple
Speaker 5: in a second, but I just think that that is
Speaker 5: something that needs to be accounted for because a lot
Speaker 5: of people don't like to talk about that or possession
Speaker 5: in general. And if they're not who they say they are,
Speaker 5: that throws a whole wrench in this. So I'm gonna
Speaker 5: talk about a couple of stories and you tell me
Speaker 5: if you buy that they are who they say they are. Now,
Speaker 5: the third one being the more detailed, but the first
Speaker 5: two are One is a jazz beerd jat and this
Speaker 5: is a record, very documented story in Stevenson's work, and
Speaker 5: he was a three and a half year old, and
Speaker 5: he had a near death experience after having I think smallpox,
Speaker 5: and he died for they say, a while, like maybe
Speaker 5: a couple hours, not who knows. I've heard crazier things.
Speaker 5: But he died for a while and or appeared to
Speaker 5: have died, and then he comes back a few hours
Speaker 5: later claiming to be somebody else and has a much
Speaker 5: more mature personality, and his name, his new name he's
Speaker 5: claiming to be is Sabha Ram. Now, this Sabaha Ram
Speaker 5: character claimed to have died a few days earlier, and
Speaker 5: record show whenever they looked for documentation that he died
Speaker 5: anywhere from two to fourteen days earlier. They don't know
Speaker 5: which because documentation in these small villages wasn't the most
Speaker 5: prolific apparently so, but they know he died a few
Speaker 5: days before.
Speaker 1: So this character died.
Speaker 5: A twenty two year old from falling off of a
Speaker 5: cart and banging its head up pretty bad, you know,
Speaker 5: sad to go out whatever, And apparently they claim to
Speaker 5: have memories when they came back as the child. As
Speaker 5: a child, they claimed that I was guided here into
Speaker 5: this body from a holy man who transferred me to
Speaker 5: this body as opposed to going through the rigmarole of
Speaker 5: reincarnating in the spirit realm and going up and then
Speaker 5: coming down. They didn't want to do that. And this
Speaker 5: holy man who's apparently which makes it sound like it's
Speaker 5: a positive, benevolent force. I don't know why they would
Speaker 5: tell you to go into this child's body and possess
Speaker 5: them and displace their consciousness as opposed to going to
Speaker 5: reincarnate the natural regular way.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised.
Speaker 5: It doesn't sound like a holy thing to do, but
Speaker 5: that's what they called it. So it just seems a
Speaker 5: little sketchy.
Speaker 1: Off the bat and uh.
Speaker 2: George, move it all over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 5: Man, that song might have been written by demon who knows,
Speaker 5: as a lot of them are. But no, I just
Speaker 5: find that a whole sketchy story to begin with. And
Speaker 5: then there's another one with this woman named Sumitra, and
Speaker 5: she when she was seventeen, Yeah, at seventeen year old.
Speaker 5: Seventeen years old in nineteen eighty five July, she died
Speaker 5: or appeared to have died after a bad sickness and
Speaker 5: ends up being revived a bit later, and when she
Speaker 5: comes back, she claims to be another woman named Shiva Tripathy,
Speaker 5: and she claimed to have died as Shiva by being
Speaker 5: pushed in front of a train cartoon coyote or Wiley
Speaker 5: and coyote style, pushed in front of a train and exploded,
Speaker 5: of course, and she claimed to be That was two
Speaker 5: months ago from documentation. So for two months she's a
Speaker 5: ghost roaming the earthplane and finds this, you know, dead
Speaker 5: body to come into. And I don't think this the
Speaker 5: original consciousness of she Symetra. I don't think it's like
Speaker 5: she went to have it or hell and she's gone
Speaker 5: and this body is being animated purely by demon I
Speaker 5: believe that these people need a human soul to power it,
Speaker 5: and they're just displacing the personality and turning them off.
Speaker 5: And I believe that because about a year and a
Speaker 5: half after this possession, which by the way, she was
Speaker 5: possessed her whole life till she died, except for this
Speaker 5: one instance, like eighteen years later she died. And before this, Uh,
Speaker 5: they her family believed she was possessed by ghosts, and
Speaker 5: they hired ojas ohjas might be saying that wrong to
Speaker 5: exercise her, but they're pagan, so whatever they're doing is
Speaker 5: all theatrics, and they actually didn't get rid of them.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like the SRT stuff. They'll get rid
Speaker 5: of themselves whenever it's strategic but and necessary. But this
Speaker 5: these ogas aren't building a huge framework and making a
Speaker 5: book and being an asset in the way that they're
Speaker 5: sharing this story, so they don't have to follow the
Speaker 5: rules with these people as much.
Speaker 1: So they're not following the rules, and they don't get.
Speaker 2: Exercised birls just to scare off demons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's all a show basically.
Speaker 5: But so these they failed to exercise her, and they
Speaker 5: basically tortured her for a long time to try to
Speaker 5: get her to get the ghost out or the demon
Speaker 5: that was pretending to be a ghost. Which ever, so
Speaker 5: at one point she gets sick again about a year
Speaker 5: and a half after this possession took place, and she
Speaker 5: temporarily comes back claiming to be her original self for
Speaker 5: a couple hours and having no memory of any time lapse. So,
Speaker 5: you know, it's nice that they're not just witnessing everything
Speaker 5: this possessing ensity is doing. They're kind of turned off,
Speaker 5: which is a nice alternative to what could be happening.
Speaker 5: But she was always there, she was always there, and
Speaker 5: she eventually gets possessed again, like a few hours after,
Speaker 5: and the encity comes back. Now, I don't know why
Speaker 5: this happened for sure, but here's what we can know
Speaker 5: for sure. These fever, these dramatic fevers that are really painful,
Speaker 5: often induced trance states and could do something to the
Speaker 5: consciousness to make you know, them be able to battle
Speaker 5: for control.
Speaker 1: Who knows, But.
Speaker 5: Maybe the entity just wanted to leave because he is
Speaker 5: really not having fun and wanted her to deal with
Speaker 5: the sickness that the worst parts of it and then
Speaker 5: come back later because there's no door closed after this happened.
Speaker 5: There's no spiritual you know, renunciation or you know, committal
Speaker 5: committance to Jesus or anything like that, so he can
Speaker 5: just come back later. So I think that's might have
Speaker 5: been as simple of an explanation of what happened. It's speculation,
Speaker 5: what do I know. So there's one.
Speaker 1: It's just sketchy though. It just doesn't Uh, it just doesn't.
Speaker 5: Add up, like why would why would a ghost want
Speaker 5: to do this as opposed to reincarnating, which they now
Speaker 5: believe a reincarnation of course, if they've been through this
Speaker 5: whole situation. Why would they not want to just start
Speaker 5: over and take over somebody else's family and body. And
Speaker 5: they rejected their family as this person. They're not even
Speaker 5: trying to live a good life. They had a very awful,
Speaker 5: you know, situation with their family afterwards, and they reject them.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just a little evil.
Speaker 5: And I guess ghosts can be evil too, but it's
Speaker 5: just weird. So one more story, which is even crazier is, uh,
Speaker 5: this is probably maybe the most documented story of a
Speaker 5: ghost interaction slash possession ever that I could find.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: It is in the book The What Seca Wonder, which
Speaker 5: took place in a town called What Seca I think
Speaker 5: in Wisconsin or Idaho, something like the Potato Vibe. And
Speaker 5: this was in the late eighteen hundreds, I believe, And
Speaker 5: it's all.
Speaker 1: Detailed in the book.
Speaker 5: And she, Uh, there's a few characters here we need
Speaker 5: to name. They're all named Mary. Mary Laurancey Venom is
Speaker 5: the is a two year old at this point, and
Speaker 5: then she has a Methodist family and her mother's name
Speaker 5: is Mary or something, so there's a lot of Mary's.
Speaker 5: And then the other girl we're going to talk about
Speaker 5: is Mary roth Roff. So Mary Roff is about seventeen
Speaker 5: or eighteen, while Mary Venom, her neighbor, is two years old.
Speaker 5: So these are neighbors and the Mary Roff, her family
Speaker 5: is the eighteen year old. Her family is spiritualist mediums, occultist,
Speaker 5: very heavy practitioners.
Speaker 1: Okay, so keep that in mind.
Speaker 5: So the practitioners, the occultist, their daughter, Mary Roff, is
Speaker 5: dealing with a lot of suicidal ideation and self harm
Speaker 5: and spiritual encounters and a lot of nasty stuff so
Speaker 5: bad that she commits suicide. Or that's what is insinuated
Speaker 5: by the autopsy, which was a little vague on the matter,
Speaker 5: but it insinuated that. And she died pretty you know,
Speaker 5: in a sad way of course. So that is the
Speaker 5: occultist family. And then their neighbor within the same neighborhood
Speaker 5: is Mary the Venoms, Mary Venom, and that Mary is
Speaker 5: two years old at this time.
Speaker 1: Okay, so twelve.
Speaker 5: Or thirteen years pass after this death, and now Mary
Speaker 5: Venom is around fifteen. And these families didn't really have
Speaker 5: a lot of interactions. They knew of each other. They
Speaker 5: maybe were like polite, but they never really hung out.
Speaker 5: So Mary venom is now fifteen or so I believe,
Speaker 5: and she starts, after having a normal upbringing, she starts
Speaker 5: having a lot of spiritual warfare.
Speaker 1: We don't know why.
Speaker 5: We don't know why opened her up, but she starts
Speaker 5: having a lot of spiritual warfare and starts getting visions
Speaker 5: like clairvoyant type visions. She starts communicating with dead, like
Speaker 5: dead loved ones and dead entities apparently who are ghosts
Speaker 5: or claiming to be ghosts.
Speaker 1: And she starts.
Speaker 5: Getting visions of angels in heaven. I don't believe she
Speaker 5: mentions demons, but she mentions angels, so that's interesting. And
Speaker 5: we know in part two that demons can mask as
Speaker 5: angels are light beings very easily, and as Jesus, they
Speaker 5: admit to this, that is admitted in part two in
Speaker 5: the lore, so she's getting in heaven. Also, they do
Speaker 5: fake heaven's but that's all other conversation, so who knows
Speaker 5: what she's really seeing, but that's what she claimed to.
Speaker 5: After a lot of spiritual warfare, now her parents try
Speaker 5: all these drastic measures to heal her, such as blood
Speaker 5: letting not fun and other medications and drugs and surgical stuff,
Speaker 5: and none of it was working and now she's just
Speaker 5: traumatized even more. And then they eventually get desperate and
Speaker 5: go to their spiritual media medium neighbors for help so
Speaker 5: they can see if they can find any spiritual solutions
Speaker 5: to this, and they are glad to help, and they're
Speaker 5: the ones with the dead daughter, keep in mind, who
Speaker 5: died twelve years earlier. So they go to them, and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, they end up chanting through this
Speaker 5: girl and she claims to be their dead daughter. All
Speaker 5: of a sudden, the ghost or demon finds an opportunity
Speaker 5: to create a story here and it goes very according
Speaker 5: to plan. So now they're channeling their daughter, and now
Speaker 5: this daughter has taken over, and I think was taken
Speaker 5: over for a bit, but just all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: it's like, oh, I'm actually your daughter, even though they
Speaker 5: never said that before meeting them, which is interesting, kind
Speaker 5: of weird how that just happened all of a sudden.
Speaker 5: So starts claiming to be their dead daughter who's been
Speaker 5: roaming the earth plane the past twelve thirteen years and
Speaker 5: decided to come back because they missed their family. Now,
Speaker 5: if you killed yourself, I don't know, maybe you didn't
Speaker 5: have the best family ever, because if you did, you
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't have done that. Just a little strange. She
Speaker 5: wanted to come back to see them, So she's now
Speaker 5: possessing this Mary Venom character and this goes on for
Speaker 5: a while. Now, after about two weeks of claiming to
Speaker 5: be this personality, she's rejecting her family, the Venoms, and saying,
Speaker 5: I want to live with my real family, your neighbors,
Speaker 5: and go live with them, And after much discussion, they decide,
Speaker 5: you know what, it's probably for the best.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, uh that's if you say so.
Speaker 5: So she goes to live with this other family who
Speaker 5: she who is you know, your.
Speaker 2: Light bial, your water bial, phone bill and grocery, but
Speaker 2: go right ahead take her.
Speaker 5: That's probably a factor here, Yes, so dude, this Uh
Speaker 5: So she goes to live with the Roths for three
Speaker 5: months and pretends to be their daughter and is also
Speaker 5: quite a bit of a model citizen. Is very polite,
Speaker 5: nice and couldn't be a demon because a demon's not
Speaker 5: capable of acting, as we haven't seen in the past
Speaker 5: few episodes of material. But it's very nice helping out
Speaker 5: with chores being I don't remember all the details, but
Speaker 5: I just remember thinking she's a model citizen.
Speaker 1: This is the idea that was coming across.
Speaker 5: And after three months of this, she all of a
Speaker 5: sudden decided after possessing her this girl's body. And keep
Speaker 5: in mind, after she was claiming to be this new
Speaker 5: personality and the possession was full, her spiritual warfare stopped.
Speaker 5: So or maybe just this entity got what it want
Speaker 5: full possession. Probably got some agreement it saying hey, I'll
Speaker 5: stop torturing you if you allow me to possess you
Speaker 5: in some scenario, which, by the way, is how they
Speaker 5: typically will go about it in certain case studies I've read.
Speaker 5: And so she agreed to it to some level, because
Speaker 5: to be fully possessed, you have to agree to it
Speaker 5: at some level.
Speaker 1: I have to know.
Speaker 5: So she probably said, I'll stop harassing you. And then
Speaker 5: it's not really worth it because then you're not really
Speaker 5: existing anymore. And now this entities now their daughter's not
Speaker 5: having spiritual warfare, but it's not their daughter anymore.
Speaker 1: So after three.
Speaker 5: Months of this, she announces, Hey, I've healed this woman's
Speaker 5: body or this girl's body.
Speaker 1: I've healed it.
Speaker 5: I've fixed her, I've made her life better because my
Speaker 5: presence stopped the spiritual warfare a half truth and says,
Speaker 5: I think it's time for me to move on. I
Speaker 5: don't know, okay, I guess you just wanted to help whatever.
Speaker 5: But she ends up leaving with some fanfare, and now boom,
Speaker 5: this girl is back. She remembers nothing, and she doesn't
Speaker 5: have spiritual warfare anymore. And is this like SRT spirit
Speaker 5: releasemth therapy where they're strategically laying off pressure now to
Speaker 5: make it seem like a ghost took over for the
Speaker 5: right reasons which you may not like it, but had
Speaker 5: good intentions. One, it makes them seem not evil for possessing.
Speaker 5: It makes possession seem not that bad because it was
Speaker 5: well intentioned to heal. And two two it's creating lore, which,
Speaker 5: by the way, this story has over one hundred signed
Speaker 5: Affi davits from family members, from witnesses, from doctors, from
Speaker 5: the spiritual mediums, from every There is one hundred signed
Speaker 5: aff of davits.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a legitimate story. Okay.
Speaker 5: They wanted this to be documented, just like they do
Speaker 5: the reincarnation cases, because it creates lore, creates mythology in
Speaker 5: the modern era that we can look to as evidence
Speaker 5: for their reincarnation belief systems, which they then double down
Speaker 5: on by supporting enchanneled information and astral travel testimonies, which
Speaker 5: generically align but like I said, have deviances which don't
Speaker 5: make sense. But that doesn't matter because most people don't,
Speaker 5: you know, pinpoint these things.
Speaker 1: So I think that story.
Speaker 5: No exactly, So are they going to cross examine complex
Speaker 5: and nuanced belief system They're not going to do it.
Speaker 5: And I'm not going to listen to this guy do
Speaker 5: it because I look like this so and I get it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, I just it's creating stories. It's creating mythology,
Speaker 5: which they are known to do. Listen to Nathaniel Gillis
Speaker 5: on his lore here. They create mythology and they always have,
Speaker 5: and they diverge it between different you know, cultures and stuff.
Speaker 5: But it's all strategically done to guide you away from
Speaker 5: a Biblical cosmology. Because if ghosts exists in the roam
Speaker 5: and the earth plane, well that's already evidenced the Bible
Speaker 5: is false because the Bible has no mention of this
Speaker 5: and does not support that at all. So if they
Speaker 5: can be a demon and mask is a person, which
Speaker 5: they can take identity of whoever, especially as spear media,
Speaker 5: this family who you know, have allowed that. I don't
Speaker 5: know if that's necessary, but it definitely helps. And they
Speaker 5: could just pretend to be whoever and they can tell
Speaker 5: you whoever they are, and if you believe them, they
Speaker 5: have rights to make up a whole story and then
Speaker 5: they leave strategically so that they can make it seem
Speaker 5: like they did a good thing. That's what I think
Speaker 5: this entire story is. So I don't know if you
Speaker 5: have any thoughts on that, but it's quite a quite
Speaker 5: a banger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that's pretty wild. And was this
Speaker 2: girl she around that twelve your age group? Your time?
Speaker 1: I think this fourteen or fifteen?
Speaker 5: Well, no, that's and that's for being in the Thana
Speaker 5: brainway state, which is two to six years old. But
Speaker 5: you know, everybody who's possessed is not a you know,
Speaker 5: two to six year old. And I think that accounts
Speaker 5: for a small number of cases, but most of them,
Speaker 5: I think it's just data analysis and strategic choosing of
Speaker 5: who you're implanting certain memories into that that's what accounts
Speaker 5: for all of it in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But no, she wasn't in that brainway state.
Speaker 5: But if you but that's I'm saying you're open in
Speaker 5: a thing of brainway state because it's it's kind of
Speaker 5: a dissociation. And whenever you empty your mind in these
Speaker 5: disassociative states, intentional or not, you're to a degree giving
Speaker 5: some sort of open room wiggle room for someone else
Speaker 5: to fill it.
Speaker 1: Uh. And they also get more.
Speaker 5: Consents based on your level of sin occult practice so on.
Speaker 1: So it's degrees.
Speaker 5: So if you're an occult family who's doing all these
Speaker 5: practices and you're dissociating, trauma based mind control is forcing
Speaker 5: disassociation so that you can have entities possess you and
Speaker 5: claim to be you know, certain entities and such and whatnot.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, so it's it's the same logic, I think.
Speaker 5: So you don't have to be super young to be possessed.
Speaker 5: That is pretty apparent. It's just a level of consents
Speaker 5: given or rituals or whatever it may be. So yeah,
Speaker 5: that's some interesting lore which I.
Speaker 2: Think has anything to do with this saith like because
Speaker 2: I know, like for as you know, fear is a
Speaker 2: very strong.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I mean people say, oh.
Speaker 2: Fear death. So it's like if they can hear about
Speaker 2: this ideology of no everything continues on and you just
Speaker 2: bounce to the next body or whatever else. You get
Speaker 2: the new car every time you reckon total the other
Speaker 2: one that I don't know. Maybe the fear of death
Speaker 2: makes people more prone to maybe hope, you.
Speaker 5: Know, yeah, yeah, I agree to a degree because people say, like, oh,
Speaker 5: fear is the opposite of faith, and to a large
Speaker 5: degree I agree with that. Maybe not like jump scare,
Speaker 5: but like prolonged anxiety and worry about things that you
Speaker 5: shouldn't be worried about because the Lord tells us why
Speaker 5: we don't need to if we know our identity in
Speaker 5: Christ right.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: Is it a huge open door to be fearful. I
Speaker 5: don't think it's a huge open door. I think as
Speaker 5: a sin, it's not a huge sin. It's just more
Speaker 5: of something that's not the best for you, your development,
Speaker 5: spiritually or otherwise. So I think it is a degree.
Speaker 5: I think this whole opening the door, so to speak,
Speaker 5: is so varying in degrees, and it's such a percentage
Speaker 5: thing that every little thing has its little mathematical part
Speaker 5: to play. So I think fear is a small, little,
Speaker 5: you know, inch of that. But I don't think it
Speaker 5: allows major, major, major doors to be open just by
Speaker 5: being now living fear in your confray and you you
Speaker 5: don't understand your identity price, and you be crazy things
Speaker 5: because fear drives you to crazier things, crazier sins. You
Speaker 5: do a lot of bad things out of fear. So
Speaker 5: fear itself maybe not as much, but what fear guides
Speaker 5: you to.
Speaker 1: Sure absolutely, And.
Speaker 5: The whole reincarnation thing is problematic because you know, it
Speaker 5: gives people no urgency to improve themselves. Oh, I can
Speaker 5: just do it in the next life, you know, or
Speaker 5: the next life. I have infinite tries, so there's no urgency,
Speaker 5: which is also really bad because that's not a good
Speaker 5: way to live your life.
Speaker 2: Of course, yeah, the times I have thought about it
Speaker 2: or has crossed my mind honestly, which I know it's
Speaker 2: not a biblical thing, but of course, you know, I uh, well,
Speaker 2: it might just be me, but I think about random
Speaker 2: things from time to time. But I was kind of
Speaker 2: like having like some internal dialog the other day. I
Speaker 2: guess maybe where I knew this conversation was coming. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, I work my butt off and
Speaker 2: broke my back and I'm just old, decrepit man. Now
Speaker 2: where I was working for the three jobs my whole
Speaker 2: life to try to support a family and stuff, and
Speaker 2: now I'm finally to the point to where i can
Speaker 2: make my money off my brain, you know, make a
Speaker 2: living off my brain.
Speaker 1: As you should.
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, now I'm where I want to be, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm happy as a pig. And shit, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I get to read and study and talk
Speaker 2: and have these conversations and stuff. And I'm like, what
Speaker 2: a cruel joke it would be to be taken out
Speaker 2: right about now. And I'm like, I'm getting book stock
Speaker 2: in my library up. And it's like, man, if there
Speaker 2: is a past life, man, I hope I'm born back
Speaker 2: into this family and get to reinherit all my book
Speaker 2: collection back.
Speaker 1: I feel the same way, man.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't buy into it and I won't
Speaker 5: even entertain it. But if I did, I would I
Speaker 5: would say a similar thing. I'm doing good myself, So
Speaker 5: I hope I don't have to have a really bad
Speaker 5: life to balance out my good one or something, because
Speaker 5: that seems to be a pattern they play out. But yeah, man,
Speaker 5: moving on to the extensive list of lore here is, uh,
Speaker 5: we're going to talk about so when you do reincarnation
Speaker 5: based memories in regression, uh, which we're going to talk
Speaker 5: about more adjacent.
Speaker 2: Stuff terminology regression, it's being in it.
Speaker 5: It's going into a setting where you are getting into
Speaker 5: a very still, meditative theta brain wave state and you
Speaker 5: are you know, usually the therapist that's there with you
Speaker 5: or regressionist whatever is helping you do so with maybe
Speaker 5: techniques like uh, recommending you count backwards to this number
Speaker 5: and then eventually you'll be still and calm enough, or
Speaker 5: recommending certain things. There's very a million different things they
Speaker 5: can do. It can be by neural beads, it could
Speaker 5: be whatever.
Speaker 1: But uh, it's just frequency.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's getting you into a state which is
Speaker 5: open for psychic information uh or you know, ensity contact,
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it. But yeah, regressions used
Speaker 5: for a lot of things. It's not just past life memories,
Speaker 5: which have enough problems on their own, but it's also
Speaker 5: pre birth memories like in between life memories and between
Speaker 5: your incarnations where people will get tons of Okay, so
Speaker 5: there's tons of books on this. Some of the main
Speaker 5: authors are doctor Michael Newton, Helen Womback, Dolores Cannon. They
Speaker 5: are regressionists, and they get people in these states and
Speaker 5: they'll access past life memories and at some point in
Speaker 5: these sessions often and there's full books dedicated to this
Speaker 5: justice topic. There are collectively thousands of these cases now,
Speaker 5: so it's consistent, and data consistency doesn't necessarily mean it's legitimate,
Speaker 5: by the way, could mean an orchestrated thing on the
Speaker 5: other side happening. But there's consistent data showing patterns of
Speaker 5: pre birth memories where people are meeting with spiritual elders,
Speaker 5: ascended masters, so on in the higher heaven type realms,
Speaker 5: not having of the biblical standard, but they are planning
Speaker 5: their incarnation. They are getting a life review of their
Speaker 5: recent life and they're planning their next incarnation.
Speaker 1: They get to choose their uh.
Speaker 5: Their location geographically often is usually within one hundred miles
Speaker 5: of their original place, but they don't really talk about
Speaker 5: that as much in the UH in the regression stuff,
Speaker 5: but whatever, and they uh they choose their location, their gender, UH,
Speaker 5: their socio economic condition, their family members, uh, their wiener size.
Speaker 5: I bet uh there you know, they're trying to balance
Speaker 5: their illnesses, their death, et cetera. They're trying to balance
Speaker 5: their karma optimally, not trying to progress in every life necessarily.
Speaker 1: Because like.
Speaker 2: Perfect balance.
Speaker 1: Amen, yes, we would know.
Speaker 5: Uh so it's heavy, man, you gotta see hydrated, bro.
Speaker 5: It's it's dangerous out here. Uh yeah, man, it's uh
Speaker 5: so they choose all these things. It leaves very very
Speaker 5: little room for free will. They often choose their spouse,
Speaker 5: even if they've had twelve wives, I guess they chose
Speaker 5: them all or most of them. It's weird that you
Speaker 5: choose a lot of your major life events, leaving very
Speaker 5: little room for free will, which makes this whole thing
Speaker 5: kind of sketchy to start with. But in these memories,
Speaker 5: their council members, their elders, they're never judgmental. They say
Speaker 5: that for they always say that they're not judgmental. They're
Speaker 5: not like yeahweah, okay. They allow you to choose an
Speaker 5: easier or harder life based on how much spiritual growth
Speaker 5: you want. The harder lives reward more spiritual growth usually
Speaker 5: usually not always now. And you also have a soul family,
Speaker 5: so you'll often reincarnate with the same characters. Like if
Speaker 5: you had a dad in this life, he might have
Speaker 5: been your wife in a past life. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of sole incest going on in these scenarios, A lots, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: but it's but it's just they make it seem like
Speaker 5: it's okay, but it's a little bit gross. But people
Speaker 5: will find out their parents were their ex lovers and
Speaker 5: past lives. I think that's just demons torturing us in
Speaker 5: very sick ways and making us normalize the most evil stuff.
Speaker 2: But what are you gonna done coming back to haunt people?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that guy's a monster for sure. So so there's
Speaker 5: a lot of weird stuff there. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: do a whole giant breakdown on that because I don't
Speaker 5: have it prepared. But there is correlations with other adjacent
Speaker 5: lore which don't line up very well at all. Now
Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about a book for a moment,
Speaker 5: and then we're going to cross examine these two things.
Speaker 5: The book is, it's pretty underground.
Speaker 1: It is a cosmic.
Speaker 5: Cradle spiritual dimensions aft between what is it spiritual dimensions.
Speaker 1: Of life before death.
Speaker 5: And it's written by Elizabeth Carmon and some friends, and
Speaker 5: it compiles over two hundred testimonies across the whole world
Speaker 5: of all different cultures, talking about mothers. Typically mothers getting
Speaker 5: visions and dreams of encounters with spirits, babies, their future spirits,
Speaker 5: the spirits of their future children. They're usually pregnant or
Speaker 5: they're getting pregnant in this moment, and they will see
Speaker 5: a vision of a spirit baby who's three to six
Speaker 5: years old, usually looking like that. It'll look like a
Speaker 5: three to six year old, and it will look like
Speaker 5: their future child typically, and they will say something stupid
Speaker 5: and pointless and unnecessary, like Mommy, I love you, I'm
Speaker 5: coming to see you, or.
Speaker 1: They'll talk like a child.
Speaker 5: They'll have child speak and they'll say like I love you,
Speaker 5: or I can't wait to be your kid, or something
Speaker 5: something stupid and unnecessary.
Speaker 1: Completely.
Speaker 5: I guess it's to establish a bond beforehand. But it's
Speaker 5: just a quick little vision dream. Sometimes there will be
Speaker 5: a bunch of spirit babies fighting over you, and they'll.
Speaker 1: Say pick me, no, pick me, no, pick me, and they'll.
Speaker 5: Argue over you. That's a little weird. I don't know
Speaker 5: why that's necessary.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's.
Speaker 5: There's over two hundred of these cases documented, plenty more
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They'll show up in meditation.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they will show up in these dreams and visions FATA,
Speaker 5: brainwave state opening, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So here's a weird thing.
Speaker 5: Out of all these thousands of pre birth memories that
Speaker 5: people access in regression, there is not a single one
Speaker 5: I could find of anybody mentioning a visitation to their
Speaker 5: mother in the spirit showing up as a child. Which,
Speaker 5: by the way, in these life in these life planning things,
Speaker 5: you are not a three to six year old. You
Speaker 5: do not speak like a child. You are formed as yourself,
Speaker 5: as your past life, or a combination of them. You know,
Speaker 5: it's it varies, but you are you have a mature mentality. Okay,
Speaker 5: you are not a child. But in these pre birth memories,
Speaker 5: the person isn't even Sometimes it's before they're before they're
Speaker 5: even a fetus, before they're pregnant, and it's like when
Speaker 5: they're about to get pregnant. So it's it's before they're
Speaker 5: even connected to that fetus, right as early as it
Speaker 5: may be. So why are they a three to six
Speaker 5: year old? Specifically, why are they dumb? If they're truly
Speaker 5: in a mature spirit in the spirit room coming down
Speaker 5: to say hi, why are they showing up as a
Speaker 5: three to six year old and dumbing down their look
Speaker 5: and their vibe and their dialogue and their intelligence to
Speaker 5: have some cute, to have some cute seaver overly cute, manipulative,
Speaker 5: adorable behavior. Now, if it's a demon masking as a child,
Speaker 5: what are they doing here? Is it just like they
Speaker 5: do in dreams like fake joy? Interston talks about are
Speaker 5: they consent harvesting? Are they trying to get you to
Speaker 5: believe one in something that promotes reincarnation? Yes, building a rapport,
Speaker 5: and then two they usually fulfill it. Right, So this
Speaker 5: they'll have this vision the mother, and then when their
Speaker 5: child is two, three four years old, just like reincarnation memories,
Speaker 5: they will get a memory of visiting their mother in
Speaker 5: the spirit. Now you can't see nobody accesses this in
Speaker 5: regression memories, but only the kids whose mother already had
Speaker 5: the pre programmed vision. Now that child will get that memory.
Speaker 5: But nobody else will talk about this except mothers who
Speaker 5: already had that, which is a little weird.
Speaker 1: They don't cross over.
Speaker 5: They will have memories and say, hey, remember when I
Speaker 5: came to visit you, or remember when you aborted me
Speaker 5: and I came back as your son instead of your
Speaker 5: daughter because you aborted me or I had a or
Speaker 5: you had a miscarriage. Like they'll say weird stuff like that,
Speaker 5: And these kids will have memories of being a spirit
Speaker 5: baby and visiting their mother, but only the ones whose.
Speaker 1: Mother's already had it.
Speaker 5: So it's just like it's not outside of that in
Speaker 5: the regression stuff at all, which is weird. They don't overlap.
Speaker 5: I find this.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: I want to read some quotes from the book in
Speaker 5: a minute. Let me see if I got everything first.
Speaker 5: It's overall this whole the whole point of this is
Speaker 5: seeding additional reincarnation, spiritualist type lore and consent harvesting in
Speaker 5: my opinion, because whenever their mother believes it, then they're
Speaker 5: giving their permission for their child to be access to
Speaker 5: when they're theta brainway of state at as a two
Speaker 5: year old, which then they do. They're not protecting their child,
Speaker 5: They're doing the opposite. They're leaving them open because their
Speaker 5: belief and consent is being acted upon there. That's what
Speaker 5: I think is going on. So let me read some
Speaker 5: quotes from the book really quick, because they are either
Speaker 5: insightful to showing what's going on. Here, or they're reparted
Speaker 5: and funny, or they're a little bit of both. So
Speaker 5: I got a number here, But yeah, yeah, we got
Speaker 5: some common here. So one is, as a child, I
Speaker 5: knew that all the explanations of where I come from
Speaker 5: did not resonate with me, although I had no words
Speaker 5: to explain where I came from. As a young adult,
Speaker 5: I even tried previous life regressions divination and got some hits.
Speaker 5: Even so, they were not my souls. Some were my
Speaker 5: physical body elemental's previous experiences, and others were experiences of
Speaker 5: those people around me. Okay, One, she already did past
Speaker 5: life aggression before leaving herself open being a believer. One
Speaker 5: so already opened up. Two she says some of her
Speaker 5: memories were from her physical body's elementals experience, which, by
Speaker 5: the way, doesn't make any sense. And I don't understand
Speaker 5: what she's saying, because it's your soul that reincarnate, it's
Speaker 5: not your body elemental whatever. That doesn't make any sense
Speaker 5: at all. It's like she's claiming to be a wanderer
Speaker 5: coming in taking over this person's body, but it doesn't
Speaker 5: seem to be the case. And she says other memories
Speaker 5: she gets when she relives as if they're her own.
Speaker 1: Are other people near her? Okay, just keep that in mind.
Speaker 5: And will reference Part two material where this is relevant
Speaker 5: as well in a minute.
Speaker 1: Another quote, which is even.
Speaker 5: Crazier, is a guy who is an adult now, but
Speaker 5: he's He says he accessed the memory of himself as
Speaker 5: a fetus, but he's a spirit, and he's a mature
Speaker 5: spirit while he's a fetus. Okay, even though your spirit
Speaker 5: turns into a baby spirit whenever you're born, it's weird.
Speaker 1: So he says that he remembers going.
Speaker 5: Out of his body as a fetus spirit mature spirit
Speaker 5: and ashele traveling, and then he says he still does.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 5: He says, I came and went as I pleased at
Speaker 5: you know, out of his mother's womb. He says, I
Speaker 5: played anywhere I wanted. Lots of play time took place
Speaker 5: on Jupiter, the planet of growth, and Saturn, the karmic teacher.
Speaker 5: That is where most of my lessons came from. That
Speaker 5: is where I hung out.
Speaker 1: I still do.
Speaker 5: So he's saying, I remember ashele traveling, or I got
Speaker 5: a memory accessing ashele travel memories as a fetus going
Speaker 5: to different planets to get lessons from entities, and Saturn's
Speaker 5: one of them. Sadurn worship a little weird connection there,
Speaker 5: and he says he still does, which I mean he's
Speaker 5: still ashele travels. And now if you watch part one, you
Speaker 5: know that the astral realm and Ashal travels faking gay
Speaker 5: and that that's not probably happening. So to get a
Speaker 5: memory of him doing it as a us fetus is
Speaker 5: just a little more icing on the cake of bologna.
Speaker 5: I don't believe it, and I think this person is insane.
Speaker 5: And this is what the this is what they you know,
Speaker 5: have claimed to be as a literal lifestyle for them, since, uh,
Speaker 5: I don't if you if you buy, if you buy
Speaker 5: all this, you have to take a lot of this
Speaker 5: slop with it. You know, it's it's gonna get silly
Speaker 5: right now. So one quote here is uh he says
Speaker 5: rebirth planning was like watching a thriller movie. So this
Speaker 5: is showing more vision control admittedly so by the elders
Speaker 5: in this realm. So whether or not the whole thing's fake,
Speaker 5: are real. Even if it's real, they have the ability
Speaker 5: to impress movie like you know, visions of your life,
Speaker 5: a kashak record style of anything they.
Speaker 2: Want, realms, an unhinged rant exposing the psychic.
Speaker 5: Thank you exactly. That's the voice for the audiobook. By
Speaker 5: the way, it's very soothing and silly.
Speaker 2: So my cover see one. As you were talking, I
Speaker 2: was gonna, you know, throw this up, you know.
Speaker 5: Be like, huh oh you want to throw it? A
Speaker 5: funny little bit I've been posting on.
Speaker 2: Your YouTube channel, you know, is that where they get Yeah,
Speaker 2: listen to your audio book and stuff right here on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: I got all the quote. I have a lot of
Speaker 5: quotes and excerpts, and all the excerpts are you know.
Speaker 5: I pick funny voices for uh Dan Duvall. I gave
Speaker 5: aquitine hunger forces, uh master Shake, which is a good one.
Speaker 1: It was hard to develop these voices, by the way.
Speaker 1: I did use AI for it, but worth it. Yeah, man.
Speaker 5: So some more quotes that are crazy is between his
Speaker 5: second past life and his current life, Thundercloud incarnated in
Speaker 5: animal bodies. He became transformed into a fish, so again
Speaker 5: showing you can downgrade to a fish and go back up.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: Some reincarnation teachings from ensities teach that is all sequential.
Speaker 5: You can only go up, you can't go down. Other
Speaker 5: people teach the opposite. It's it's just it doesn't correlate
Speaker 5: or it doesn't mix well. Another one that's even crazier
Speaker 5: is the woman concluded the spirit child seeking a mother
Speaker 5: paddled a spirit canoe upriver. The spirit child saw me
Speaker 5: and entered my womb. That's why I'm pregnant, and elder
Speaker 5: narrated added, white people have a different way. These things
Speaker 5: happened to black people.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: Black people can just be you know, they don't have
Speaker 5: to have sex to get you know, a child.
Speaker 1: It's just a spirit baby in a canoe. Spirit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But immediately it's like, yeah, white people have a
Speaker 2: different way, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 5: That's that's the perfect thing to play against this. Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: it's uh, that's that's the thing. Well, that's more third
Speaker 5: world mentality here, and this is coming from a more
Speaker 5: uh yeah, I'm gonna say third world area of for
Speaker 5: that testimony. That that's what that's what they say, that's
Speaker 5: what they believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Another quote is meditation was part of Elsa's daily routine
Speaker 5: for spiritual growth on a meditation retreat with thousands of people.
Speaker 5: Unexpected thoughts came up up during meditation. And here's what
Speaker 5: the thoughts were. Have another baby, have another baby, Have
Speaker 5: another baby. Elsa thought, no, I have enough children. You're
Speaker 5: such a good mother, have another baby.
Speaker 1: Have one of us.
Speaker 5: What a good mother you would be. We want you
Speaker 5: to be our mother. Come on, have a baby, have
Speaker 5: one of us. This is actual dialogue, she quotes. After
Speaker 5: five days, the souls began to fade out, and she
Speaker 5: said this, and the voices of the children said, all right,
Speaker 5: we're going away. You can't have us. I thought, oh, no,
Speaker 5: come back, I will have one. And that was a
Speaker 5: great sales technique. That was the end of the quote.
Speaker 5: That whole thing.
Speaker 1: I just said.
Speaker 2: So here and her absolutely love that.
Speaker 5: That's right, man, and dude. It's like she's literally at
Speaker 5: a meditation retreat. She's doing she's getting in a Theta
Speaker 5: brainway state, she's getting open, and these voices in her
Speaker 5: head are showing up, his little children talking to her, saying,
Speaker 5: have one of us. Multiple multiple babies fighting over one mother.
Speaker 5: Now in life plans, you're not really fighting over to
Speaker 5: the same life. I never hear of that being talked about,
Speaker 5: but apparently these spirit babies are are doing so it's
Speaker 5: just another thing that doesn't make any sense, and she
Speaker 5: agrees to it in consense and boom, now she's gonna
Speaker 5: get some influences from these demons. Another one even sillier.
Speaker 5: I imagine a Vietnamese man who refused to drink the
Speaker 5: spiritual soup of amnesia in the before birth world surreptitiously
Speaker 5: slipped it to his dog instead. Now that's stupid, but
Speaker 5: it's saying he avoided the memory erasure in the between
Speaker 5: life realms by sneaking away his soup. He's supposed to
Speaker 5: drink the amnesia soup, he avoided it and gave it
Speaker 5: to his dog, the spirit of his dog, which was
Speaker 5: with him apparently in this incarnation, in this pre birth life.
Speaker 5: Now I don't know how he got away with that,
Speaker 5: and nobody caught him, these all knowing spirit beings. But
Speaker 5: then that means he came back with all his memories,
Speaker 5: which by the way, he didn't.
Speaker 1: He just had access to a handful of them.
Speaker 5: So doesn't make a lot of sense that you can
Speaker 5: just avoid, you know, drinking the amnesia soup. If that happened,
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot more people would have stories
Speaker 5: like that. I've never heard anybody else say anything like that,
Speaker 5: so I just thought that was one that stood out
Speaker 5: as silly. And this came by way of memories. You're
Speaker 5: killing the soundboard, bro, thank you?
Speaker 1: So there is? Oh god, yeah, here's another one.
Speaker 5: I have the most memories of lives when I practiced
Speaker 5: some mysticism or healing art. Now wouldn't that benefit them
Speaker 5: to give you those memories of these occult practices? Another
Speaker 5: one that's crazy. I made Penny Royal tea to abort
Speaker 5: the baby. As I was about to drink the tea,
Speaker 5: a loud, raging voice said no, and I spilled the tea.
Speaker 5: The voice explained, I am coming to the planet and
Speaker 5: you are the vehicle I must come through. And she said, okay,
Speaker 5: I'll be the vehicle for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this.
Speaker 5: Is this not a little on the nose of just
Speaker 5: giving consens away, deceiving enstities.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They Oh, this one's fun.
Speaker 5: They suited him because they were clean, kept their camps
Speaker 5: swept up, and sent their women a long way off
Speaker 5: to men straight. When are we going to do that
Speaker 5: in this country?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 2: Anyone?
Speaker 3: Oh good?
Speaker 1: Okay? Last one, this one.
Speaker 5: I regret even saying it in advance, but it's too
Speaker 5: funny to me. He was crazy drunk when I met him.
Speaker 5: Dave Date raped me when I was fourteen. I didn't
Speaker 5: want to be with him, excepting enticed me with cigarettes
Speaker 5: and with money. I was born with an addiction because
Speaker 5: my mother had smoked two packs per day during my
Speaker 5: womb time. Besides, smoking was cool, everyone was doing it.
Speaker 1: I just had to end there.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's it's just funny to me that that
Speaker 5: last line. But yeah, this is the book that delivers
Speaker 5: the exact lore. I was just going over the spirit
Speaker 5: baby stuff. So all these things you have to and
Speaker 5: there's more. There's a lot more, by the way in
Speaker 5: the book. Uh, you have to kind of take on
Speaker 5: these if you want to believe this is all happening.
Speaker 5: And if even one of these is some sketchy deception,
Speaker 5: how can we trust the rest of them. They all
Speaker 5: a lot of them seem very sketchy to me. But wait,
Speaker 5: there's more. Here's now and even crazier. Yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 5: So there's this other book that is very underground. I
Speaker 5: do not hear talked about ever. The only person I've
Speaker 5: heard reference. It is Jason geor Johnny, one of my
Speaker 5: many arch nemesiss is, and he is he brought it
Speaker 5: up in a space one time, and he doesn't name it,
Speaker 5: but he's it is the only book of its kind.
Speaker 5: There's no other book like this that I can find,
Speaker 5: so I know he was talking about this book and
Speaker 5: he uses it as data for real future prophetic information,
Speaker 5: not seeing that it's a controlled deception. But you know,
Speaker 5: we'll get into this. So it's called mass Dreams of
Speaker 5: the Future, and he is. It is a book written
Speaker 5: by chet Be Snow and Helen womb Back, and it
Speaker 5: is a bunch of regression data. It is data heavy
Speaker 5: and very respectably, so you know they're using data. They're
Speaker 5: trying to get a cohesive story here.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: What it is is a collection of future life memories,
Speaker 5: not past life memories, but future What they do is
Speaker 5: they take people with past life memory sessions and then
Speaker 5: when it's over, they ask them to try to access
Speaker 5: the years twenty one hundred and also twenty three hundred
Speaker 5: and see if they have a future life that they
Speaker 5: can access so they can find out what the future
Speaker 5: is going to be like. And they get quite a
Speaker 5: bit of data from this now in the same way
Speaker 5: they get a past life memory.
Speaker 1: It's the same mechanism, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So in this book, I'll start off by saying, the
Speaker 5: first chapter is chet be Snow, the author's own testimony
Speaker 5: not of his future life, but of his future on Earth.
Speaker 5: So it's in the year two thousand, and all this
Speaker 5: data is coming from the eighty three to eighty six
Speaker 5: or so in the eighties, so they're doing all these
Speaker 5: in the eighties. And his story is fifteen years in
Speaker 5: the future into the year two thousand, right, And he
Speaker 5: tells a whole chapter of detailed, detailed emotional memories where
Speaker 5: he there's a huge cataclysm that happens in the next
Speaker 5: few years before two thousand, which already didn't come to
Speaker 5: pass obviously, and he talks about becoming a spiritual leader
Speaker 5: and becoming telepathics, so much so that he's communicating with
Speaker 5: aliens to help us get resources because we're so we're
Speaker 5: so distraught and we had a big depopulation event. The
Speaker 5: grid is down everywhere, and we're surviving via you know,
Speaker 5: more horse and buggy type resource gathering, but also alien help,
Speaker 5: and we're telepathically communicating across the world with our telepathic radios,
Speaker 5: with our minds, and we're teaching children to be telepathic.
Speaker 1: We're doing all the things.
Speaker 5: And he remembers his death and all these things, and
Speaker 5: remembers going to the spirit room afterwards. He remembers all
Speaker 5: this in the future, but it didn't come to pass
Speaker 5: because none of this happened.
Speaker 1: So there's keep in mind.
Speaker 5: His future life he accessed or future memory of his
Speaker 5: current life was totally totally, totally wrong in so many ways,
Speaker 5: like a million ways. I don't have time to get into.
Speaker 5: But it all succeeded in gratifying his ego and desires
Speaker 5: to have spiritual powers and leadership of some sort. It
Speaker 5: was very, very very ego stroking and very beneficial to him.
Speaker 5: Didn't come true, none of it did. So keep that
Speaker 5: in mind before we go into this. Now, the rest
Speaker 5: of this is very there's okay. So there's twenty five
Speaker 5: hundred people they asked to do this in this study
Speaker 5: to access future life memories. Out of two hundred to
Speaker 5: twenty five hundred, they only get hits from three hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty, give or take, and a few more in
Speaker 5: another way we'll get into. But only so they said
Speaker 5: only about five point five percent of the people surveyed
Speaker 5: had a future life memory in the year twenty one hundred,
Speaker 5: and only eleven or so percent had a future life
Speaker 5: in the year twenty three hundred. Now, if this is
Speaker 5: a demonic operation strategically doing this, what is the message
Speaker 5: they're trying to convey? Okay, well, and this is also
Speaker 5: conveyed in the actual data by the way. They're trying
Speaker 5: to convey that a great cataclysm is coming soon after
Speaker 5: the eighties, such a great cataclysm that the population is
Speaker 5: about five percent of what it used to be, and
Speaker 5: then the gradual build up in the next two hundred
Speaker 5: years to double. So it's showing a huge popular depopulation
Speaker 5: event and then a steady incline. That's that's what the
Speaker 5: data is conveying very clearly, and that's why they take
Speaker 5: it seriously, because if everybody had a future life memory,
Speaker 5: that must mean we don't have any big depopulation, right,
Speaker 5: That's what it would insinuate very clearly. So demons are
Speaker 5: strategically giving out a small amount of memories because there's
Speaker 5: a lot of enough people are being survey toward, doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: They can get enough data. You know, it's twenty five
Speaker 5: hundred people. So out of the three hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: people or so that get hits, they give consistent data
Speaker 5: that is very specific stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: They talk about four civilization types in this post cataclysm world.
Speaker 5: Now there's yeah, there's four of them and out so
Speaker 5: I don't forget. Thirty two percent of them, of the
Speaker 5: three hundred and fifty were in high tech domed AI
Speaker 5: run cities that are in like the Simpsons Dome literally
Speaker 5: or their underground bunker type cities. That is where thirty
Speaker 5: two percent of people live. And it's kind of empty
Speaker 5: of meaning, devoid of meaning, there's not much purpose. It's
Speaker 5: very AI run city, very you know, brave new world,
Speaker 5: New World Order type vibes going on high government control.
Speaker 5: Not a good vibe. Then there's also the thirteen percent
Speaker 5: are in orbiting space stations around Earth or off world
Speaker 5: colonies on other moons or other planets, or even beyond
Speaker 5: in the you know, beyond the Solar System. Thirteen percent
Speaker 5: are living in space and they are not very happy either,
Speaker 5: but you know, they're surviving and they eat mush, and
Speaker 5: they're working with aliens a lot, and everybody. All these
Speaker 5: societies except for the next one I'm going to talk about,
Speaker 5: have trade with aliens for resources constantly, and their friends
Speaker 5: with multiple factions, and many factions, because there's tons of
Speaker 5: different alien factions of course, and they are friends, and
Speaker 5: they're teaching us and they're giving us knowledge, and they're
Speaker 5: giving us technology.
Speaker 1: Does that sound familiar?
Speaker 5: There is a and then there's the primitive isolated survivor communities,
Speaker 5: which is twenty eight percent, and they are you know,
Speaker 5: they're more horse and buggy, cowboy Western style, but they're surviving,
Speaker 5: and you know, they have some tech that they've stolen from,
Speaker 5: you know, finding it elsewhere, but they're overall pretty underdeveloped
Speaker 5: and just surviving more so. And the high tech dome cities,
Speaker 5: by the way, are domed because everything outside of them
Speaker 5: is radiated from nuclear fallout, which they're insinuating obviously that
Speaker 5: there was a nuclear war at some point that probably
Speaker 5: was a big cause of this depopulation event. They also
Speaker 5: referenced the pull shift as being another example, and I
Speaker 5: have complicated feelings on that whole thing. Watch hydroplate theory
Speaker 5: for an alternative explanation for magnetic anomalies. Talking too fists, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: and so Yeah, there's a whole bunch of stuff. But
Speaker 5: the dome cities are in nuclear fallout areas, and the
Speaker 5: survivor communities aren't in domed areas. But they're not being
Speaker 5: poisoned and dying from going outside their dome. They don't
Speaker 5: have a dome. So it's obviously calculated to certain areas
Speaker 5: where the nuclear fallout happened. It's not everywhere, right, So
Speaker 5: they're they're telling a story with this information by doing this,
Speaker 5: And then twenty seven percent the rest of them happened
Speaker 5: to be in spiritual New Age communities that are the happiest,
Speaker 5: the longest living, the best fed, the most community driven,
Speaker 5: and they all have psychic abilities and telepathic abilities. They
Speaker 5: communicate with aliens. They're all friends with aliens. They have
Speaker 5: pyramid shaped schools where they teach kids to be telepathic.
Speaker 5: Gay they there. It's just a New age's wet dream.
Speaker 5: It is the perfect scenario for them, going.
Speaker 2: The line and get your free mark today.
Speaker 5: Right, And they're making everybody else sound like pretty lame
Speaker 5: and not ideal because this is going to be the
Speaker 5: best one. So twenty seven percent of the subjects describe
Speaker 5: these communities with similar characteristics very specific information. They a
Speaker 5: lot of them describe androgynist genders with no genitals and
Speaker 5: or intersects and saying that gender is not really important.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that sounds familiar or if it
Speaker 5: sounds like a red flag to anybody.
Speaker 1: It does to me. I'm a man.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, so yeah, man, It's just it's consistent data
Speaker 5: coming to three hundred and fifty people who've never spoken
Speaker 5: about this to each other, never met.
Speaker 1: So you go, oh, well, this has got to.
Speaker 5: Be somewhat accurate of a timeline, because how else would
Speaker 5: so many people be saying the same stuff.
Speaker 1: And here's the other explanation.
Speaker 5: If you're a hive minded, data collecting, deceptive, elaborate, strategic
Speaker 5: group of entities and you want to make people believe
Speaker 5: in this infinite consciousness, can access to the acashic records
Speaker 5: of anything type belief system, this reincarnation based framework, you
Speaker 5: would carry out these exact deceptions with data and strategically
Speaker 5: time things. Now, another reason I think it's all sketchy
Speaker 5: is because there is one part in the book where
Speaker 5: they talk about getting more data through different means, because
Speaker 5: obviously they're annoyed that only five to eleven percent of
Speaker 5: these people are getting data, so they they're trying other
Speaker 5: ways to get more data even though they get they're
Speaker 5: getting quite a bit, but they want more. So what
Speaker 5: they do is they ask people and prompt them. Not everybody,
Speaker 5: but they prompt quite a few people to attempt. If
Speaker 5: they're like, okay, you can't find another life, Okay, that's fine,
Speaker 5: try to see through somebody else's eyes and live their
Speaker 5: memories and not all the time, but they get a
Speaker 5: hit quite often and they will then live somebody else's
Speaker 5: life and see their memories and get data through them,
Speaker 5: but it won't count.
Speaker 1: It won't count as another life.
Speaker 5: So what's happening here is demons want to give them
Speaker 5: more data so they can craft a story more accurately,
Speaker 5: but they don't want to give them too much bodies
Speaker 5: in the body count because then it makes it seem
Speaker 5: like the depopulation event isn't a steady narrative being created here,
Speaker 5: so they have to stay low on the numbers and
Speaker 5: make it seem like a gradual build up.
Speaker 1: So it's strategy.
Speaker 5: So a lot of people see through others eyes and
Speaker 5: a kashak record style and will then share many details
Speaker 5: the same way. So that's already very sketchy because it's like, well,
Speaker 5: these aren't even your own memory, and you're accessing them
Speaker 5: and feeling them and witnessing them as if they're your own,
Speaker 5: but you only know they're not your own because you
Speaker 5: were prompted in such a way. So it's very sketchy,
Speaker 5: and it's creating a story, it seems, which is only
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty eighty years away, doesn't. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think there will be a you know, if the
Speaker 5: Bible's not right and Jesus ain't coming back soon, then
Speaker 5: you know, the poll shift thing seems to have a
Speaker 5: lot of evidence, but there are some there are some
Speaker 5: alternatives to that information happening. And I want to read
Speaker 5: some goofy quotes from this book because it's even sillier
Speaker 5: than the last one.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 5: Uh So, I want I want people to understand this
Speaker 5: is what they have to believe if they want to
Speaker 5: believe in these future life progressions regressions. Here's here's one quote.
Speaker 5: It says nearly sixty percent of those participating in her
Speaker 5: research workshops reported that they had been ahead of her
Speaker 5: questions while in the light trance state. It soon became
Speaker 5: obvious that once in the dreaming mind, as she called it,
Speaker 5: many people could bypass the linear aspects of time and memory.
Speaker 5: Now what this is telling you is whenever they're being
Speaker 5: pro pumped and the regressionist is asking, hey, travel to
Speaker 5: this time in your life, okay, travel to this birthday
Speaker 5: and tell me what's happening. Okay, go to when you
Speaker 5: were married or something. When they're prompting it. Instead of
Speaker 5: the vision forming right after it, sometimes the vision will
Speaker 5: start forming as they're saying it, or right before, within
Speaker 5: a second or two. And then you think, oh, it's
Speaker 5: because we're consciousness. We're connected. So you know, my consciousness
Speaker 5: already knows what she's about to say, or a demon
Speaker 5: reading my thoughts in advance already knows what is going
Speaker 5: to be said and is crafting it in advance to
Speaker 5: make it seem much more genuine. You know, it's strategy.
Speaker 5: It's within their capabilities for sure. So then you have
Speaker 5: another quote that says, most of these get together seem
Speaker 5: to be positive occasions, with the aliens providing advanced technical
Speaker 5: knowledge and spiritual wisdom. One report from twenty one hundred
Speaker 5: AD mentioned contact with humanoids from the planet from a
Speaker 5: planet in the Ple Eightes, Star System.
Speaker 1: Oh the pliatees.
Speaker 5: You don't say I've heard of them. Another one says,
Speaker 5: in deeper levels of trance, the subject takes on the
Speaker 5: emotional reactions of this alter ego to such an extent
Speaker 5: that he may temporarily lose awareness of his current identity.
Speaker 5: Or that can be read as in deeper levels of
Speaker 5: trance and consent, the alter ego, the demon possessing you
Speaker 5: is now getting more rights to take over and then
Speaker 5: tell you their own story. That's what you can also
Speaker 5: reframe that as very easily. Another one is a routine
Speaker 5: of regular daily meditation, renewing contact with one's immortal soul
Speaker 5: and spiritual guides, practicing tolerance. These are the things that
Speaker 5: they promote. Don't know if that sounds familiar to you.
Speaker 5: Another one, anyone can discover they are a star person,
Speaker 5: a star seed. We're about to get into star seed
Speaker 5: lour in just a minute and see how problematic that
Speaker 5: stuff is. Another one says fifty one percent reported using
Speaker 5: some kind of universal credit system based on one's signature
Speaker 5: or handprint instead of money. I don't know if that's
Speaker 5: mark of the beast normalization there, but it sounds something
Speaker 5: like it with the and then you got this one's fine.
Speaker 5: Another a man living on a space colony named gay Lord.
Speaker 5: I know that's a real name, but that's just silly
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know if focker gay lord? No, gay Lord falker?
Speaker 1: Is that what he is? There we go? That's I
Speaker 1: wish I could change my name right now. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: The circle of trust fucker?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, all right, we got a few more
Speaker 5: O there? So I think silly, I have to.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 5: One says walk ins are by no means limited.
Speaker 1: To extraterrestrial spirits.
Speaker 5: They have voluntarily taken over adult human bodies with the
Speaker 5: full consent of their former soul inhabitants, to help humanity
Speaker 5: make a critical transition. And I'm sure people have been
Speaker 5: deceived this way by demons by saying, hey, I'm here
Speaker 5: to take over your body to help people. Can I do?
Speaker 5: I have your permission? I'm sure some losers have said, sure,
Speaker 5: why not?
Speaker 1: That's all it takes.
Speaker 5: As if you're told you're gonna be possessed, it can
Speaker 5: be in whatever framework as long as you agree to it.
Speaker 5: And they say, oh, we're here to help, they channel
Speaker 5: to Lord and I think raw material they say, Abraham
Speaker 5: Lincoln had to walk in that freed the slaves. It
Speaker 5: wasn't Abraham Lincoln, but an alien soul that he agreed
Speaker 5: to let possess him to free the slaves. So thank
Speaker 5: you spirits. You guys freed the slaves. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: it's that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: That's right, thank you.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then another one says the youngest person reported dying
Speaker 5: as a young man at age twenty five and a
Speaker 5: fiery crash between two spaceships off the planet Xenon and
Speaker 5: twenty three forty a d that's a dumb planet name.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry that I don't believe it. A UFO experience
Speaker 5: can be both physical and psychic. It can also be
Speaker 5: usually deliberately educational. Oh, they're just trying to teach us things. Okay, well,
Speaker 5: don't worry about all the probing of my butt. That's
Speaker 5: I'll move over that real quick. Unable to detect any
Speaker 5: visible sex characteristics such as breasts, he reported feeling that
Speaker 5: his body was essentially androgynist. Gender didn't seem to matter
Speaker 5: very much.
Speaker 1: I disagree, brother. Then he got let's see, here's a
Speaker 1: good one.
Speaker 5: Many reports coming from the individuals contacted by a group
Speaker 5: loosely known as the Space Brothers or the Ashtar Command.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 5: I mean this is the eighties, back when Ashtar command
Speaker 5: was still being used in channel lore, but that they've
Speaker 5: been made fun of for decades now as one of
Speaker 5: an obvious signs of a psyop to use those terms.
Speaker 1: As far as I've.
Speaker 5: Been in, like the star it is suspiciously close, isn't it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's like Nordics, it's like Pleadians. But a
Speaker 5: lot of people have channeled them and they say really
Speaker 5: stupid stuff. So yeah, here's another one. UFO connections have
Speaker 5: been received psychically by several hundred different individuals over the
Speaker 5: past four decades, using names like Ashtar, Manka or Hatan,
Speaker 5: purportedly the galaxy's recordkeeper record Keeper and referring to the
Speaker 5: same intergalactic hierarchical hierarchical organization said to be held headed
Speaker 5: by no less than Jesus himself, also called Sonanda by
Speaker 5: these sources. So they called Jesus a different name. So
Speaker 5: I guess he should pray to that guy just in case.
Speaker 5: And he's leading, Yeah, he's leading the Intergalactic Federation of sorts.
Speaker 5: They don't call it that, but it seems to imply it.
Speaker 5: So thank you Jesus, I mean Sonanda for your help.
Speaker 5: And then an advance guard of this group, known as
Speaker 5: light Workers, is currently being prepared by UFO and other
Speaker 5: spiritual contacts. They will assist the Ashtar Command in his
Speaker 5: intergalactic fleet and by shepherding those still unawakened but spiritually
Speaker 5: developed individuals to save havens where the pickups can occur.
Speaker 5: Sounds like a cover up for some sort of rapture.
Speaker 5: I don't know, and I don't believe in a pre
Speaker 5: trib but you know, it could be an alien thing
Speaker 5: later that they use as a cover story.
Speaker 1: Amen.
Speaker 5: Here Jan found that her present day grown daughter will
Speaker 5: become her spouse in twenty three hundred a d more
Speaker 5: of that same gross soul incest stuff they're normalizing, and
Speaker 5: that's not okay. Another high tech subject compared his future
Speaker 5: life to that of a conscious intelligent machine, seemingly androgynists.
Speaker 5: Even his name, sin Syncrotron two, was mechanical sounding. Nobody
Speaker 5: named their child robot or not Synchrotron two. I don't,
Speaker 5: I don't buy it, I really don't. For convenience, I
Speaker 5: will use masculine pronouns for his story. These are the
Speaker 5: people we're dealing with. Do you understand what I'm getting at?
Speaker 5: Like you have to if you want to believe the
Speaker 5: future life progressions are a legitimate data, you have to
Speaker 5: believe this other nonsense too, because it's all coming alongside
Speaker 5: it from the same contexts Uh, I find it silly.
Speaker 5: I got I gotta hydrate. Brother, Let me know if
Speaker 5: you want to rants about anything.
Speaker 2: Oh no, don't put me on spot like that.
Speaker 1: I did it. I just did it. You're on the
Speaker 1: spot now, brother.
Speaker 2: Damn it. It's like I don't know what to do
Speaker 2: with my hands.
Speaker 1: All right, you did great. That was perfect.
Speaker 2: You got a thumbs up for me. Anybody the chat
Speaker 2: that knows what movie reference.
Speaker 1: That he is, that's great. So we're on star Seeds now.
Speaker 1: And I know most people.
Speaker 5: Know what star seeds are, but for those who don't,
Speaker 5: a quick summary is they are largely documented in Dolores
Speaker 5: Cannon's work, I think more than anybody, So read her
Speaker 5: books if you want to find out more about it.
Speaker 2: Realm shenanigans an unhinged rant exposing the there you go.
Speaker 2: I was asking what was your book name?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 2: I was gonna pull it up, and when I hit
Speaker 2: the back button, it replayed that again. So you heard
Speaker 2: its spirit realm, but.
Speaker 1: You're close enough.
Speaker 5: So yeah, star seeds are essentially they can be souls
Speaker 5: that are from alien extraterrestrial planets who are coming here
Speaker 5: to help us. They're all here to help us, but
Speaker 5: they're either souls from alien planets who incarnate here to
Speaker 5: help us specifically, or they are directly sent as a
Speaker 5: chunk to make it out from source, so they've never
Speaker 5: incarnated before, they never existed, and they're created by Source
Speaker 5: just to come here and help us and incarnate in humans.
Speaker 5: And there's another one like godheads deploying multiple incarnations. It's
Speaker 5: a whole thing, but those are the main ones, and
Speaker 5: they have only started coming here since the forties, apparently,
Speaker 5: since nineteen forty is when they started. That was the
Speaker 5: first wave. Dolorus Canon talks about the second wave coming
Speaker 5: in the sixties and seventies I think, or also eighties maybe,
Speaker 5: and then the last wave is like eighties, nineties to now,
Speaker 5: and each wave has a each subsequent wave has an
Speaker 5: easier time adjusting than the last, apparently because these are
Speaker 5: alien souls from better perfect planets with no problems, so
Speaker 5: they don't understand us or from you know, source which
Speaker 5: has never existed, so they have no frame of reference.
Speaker 5: But they do, and we'll get into that in a minute.
Speaker 5: Let me make sure I'm not missing anything. Yeah, And
Speaker 5: they will access this information via QHHT hypnosis often for
Speaker 5: dolorus canon. That is where you channel the higher self
Speaker 5: who will give you this information and share the memories directly,
Speaker 5: or you know, just other memories access. But this is
Speaker 5: usually channeled by your higher self, not a demon pretending
Speaker 5: to beat your higher self of course the god exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And so here's a really sketchy thing about it. The
Speaker 5: star seeds will obviously be first time and one time
Speaker 5: incarnates here. They cannot incarnate again, or if they do,
Speaker 5: it's to help. They're not like going to get stuck
Speaker 5: in the reincarnation loop like we are. They have different
Speaker 5: rules now. They say that to come to earth because
Speaker 5: it's so hard to adjust here and we're so crazy
Speaker 5: and evil, which I doubt they do the process to
Speaker 5: get them adjusted in advance to what they're coming into.
Speaker 5: Even though their memories are white anyway, it's more to
Speaker 5: embed their soul with kind of a underground under the
Speaker 5: layer knowledge which they can't even access fully, but it
Speaker 5: becomes a part of them, I guess. So what they
Speaker 5: called is imprinting, and what happens is they will say
Speaker 5: that star seeds come here by going to the Acashic
Speaker 5: records before they incarnate, in grabbing a handful of lives
Speaker 5: of other people, memories from other people, and then connecting
Speaker 5: it to them, downloading it to themselves so that when
Speaker 5: they come to Earth they have some sort of frame
Speaker 5: of reference to understand what's going on, even though they
Speaker 5: still have a hard time apparently, So they download other
Speaker 5: people's memories so that they can feel the vibes out correctly.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: So, whenever you get past life memories here, So here's
Speaker 5: what happens. People will get past life memories and then
Speaker 5: they will get a star seed memory later. So how
Speaker 5: did they coexist? If you only have one incarnation here,
Speaker 5: how are you getting past life memories on Earth?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Oh, well, it's just explained away by imprinting. Those are
Speaker 5: the memories they grab from the Acastak records. Those aren't theirs,
Speaker 5: and they know this because their star seed contact, their
Speaker 5: higher self tells them or downloads the necessary knowledge at
Speaker 5: the time end to them. So I think that's just
Speaker 5: damage control because they messed up, and you know, they
Speaker 5: have to account for these additive memories that are care
Speaker 5: more lore. So this way you can marry the two
Speaker 5: concepts and go, know it makes sense, but really it's
Speaker 5: it's a little too sketchy in my opinion to just say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I buy into it.
Speaker 1: Fully, I do not personally.
Speaker 2: To yeah, we're all the transcripancies.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, that's exactly what's going on here. Now.
Speaker 5: These people will also get memories of you know, planets,
Speaker 5: like like the alien soul memories, will get memories of
Speaker 5: their past lives on other planets, so like, see that's
Speaker 5: not Earth, so it's okay, but I still came to
Speaker 5: Earth and downloaded Earth memories anyway, so it's weird. But
Speaker 5: they will describe a couple things they describe is some
Speaker 5: like mermaid type underwater cities which is similar to the
Speaker 5: water Kingdom stuff on Earth.
Speaker 1: They talk about.
Speaker 5: Will have they're perfect societies. They have no war, no conflict,
Speaker 5: no religion, just like a spiritual nature to them. They
Speaker 5: all have telepathic abilities on all these alien planets. They
Speaker 5: all have no crime, no suffering, a chill wave of
Speaker 5: vibes twenty four to seven, regardless of what alien planet is,
Speaker 5: and it is obviously impossible if they don't all have
Speaker 5: telepathic communication to this hive mind, which they all have
Speaker 5: a hive mind, but they make it seem like it's
Speaker 5: a good thing, you know, kind of more normalization of
Speaker 5: the existence of demons into their high mind, I think,
Speaker 5: and on an immediate immediately wetter no.
Speaker 1: Is the serious colonies.
Speaker 5: These they talk about, these underwater you know, aquatic advanced
Speaker 5: beings who are tall, slender humanoid creatures with leathery skin,
Speaker 5: and they're androgynous, all of them, and they live up
Speaker 5: to one hundred and twenty years, which is the specific
Speaker 5: number provided. Kind of a weird on the nose number
Speaker 5: that's very biblically connected, kind of a weird rebrand, just
Speaker 5: putting it out there, these these kind of biblical connections
Speaker 5: that they act like as nothing, but it's clearly on
Speaker 5: the nose, you know what I'm saying. And I just
Speaker 5: find it silly that all these alien planets are perfect,
Speaker 5: and that's why they're coming here to help us. Because
Speaker 5: they're so perfect, they need to share their vibes and
Speaker 5: an explanation of how silly this is is where one
Speaker 5: testimony in the book says, this is cannon talking. She says,
Speaker 5: the second wave is now in their late twenties and thirties.
Speaker 5: They have made the transition to life on earth much
Speaker 5: more easily than the first wave. The second wave souls
Speaker 5: tend to work behind the scenes, often on their own,
Speaker 5: creating little or no karma and the sessions I conduct
Speaker 5: as a hypnotist, they have been described as intent as
Speaker 5: that unconsciously channel energy onto the earth. They do not
Speaker 5: have to do anything, they just have to be. Their
Speaker 5: energy affects everyone they come into contact with. Their paradox
Speaker 5: is that they're supposed to be sharing their energy, but
Speaker 5: they don't like being around people.
Speaker 1: So this is telling you you don't even need to
Speaker 1: be a good person. You don't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: You don't have to leave your house.
Speaker 5: You can just sit at home and access your past
Speaker 5: life memories and go out of body and do nothing
Speaker 5: for other people. And it's actually encouraged because all you
Speaker 5: have to do is exist. Just your vibes, your waves
Speaker 5: of energy you're emitting from your body is enough to
Speaker 5: do your job. Which is weird because if there's such
Speaker 5: good people and here to help us.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't they at least be like, hey, at least try
Speaker 1: to help people. At least try.
Speaker 5: No, no, just be by yourself and do don't interact
Speaker 5: with people. Actually be a recluse and be antisocial and
Speaker 5: just keep reading crazy New Age Laura until you become
Speaker 5: an insane person. So it's just a little bit. It's
Speaker 5: a little bit hard to believe, is it not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, I concur that's right, that's right.
Speaker 5: He's not just saying That's what I always say. Man,
Speaker 5: I believe every book I read. That's how I came
Speaker 5: to these conclusions. Well, no, the opposite. Actually, wait anyway,
Speaker 5: so yeah, and uh so that is all very silly
Speaker 5: to me. And I think they're just doing damage control
Speaker 5: with that lore, because that's all that's all that makes
Speaker 5: sense to me. Now, a reminder from episode two, because
Speaker 5: we're talking about memories not belonging to you, admittedly, so
Speaker 5: memories coming from other people. There's been many different types
Speaker 5: of minuteness through this. The seeing through another eyes and
Speaker 5: the future life memories. That alone is sketchy, and it's
Speaker 5: all remote viewing style visions which people still believe remote
Speaker 5: viewing is not totally Jack Bensty's, but it is in
Speaker 5: my framework.
Speaker 1: So another thing is referencing back part two.
Speaker 5: If you watch part two, you saw the holistic healing,
Speaker 5: you know, alignments and divergences from Dan Duvall's work and
Speaker 5: New Age spirit releasement therapy. And I'm going to reread
Speaker 5: a quote that I read then, just because it's very
Speaker 5: important to remind you this is what the New Age
Speaker 5: therapist says.
Speaker 1: William J.
Speaker 5: Baldwin in his manual book. He says, when a client
Speaker 5: discovers a disturbing memory, it can be a past life personality,
Speaker 5: but just as often it is the traumatic death of
Speaker 5: an attached entity. Admitting to you again, if you don't
Speaker 5: get rid of spirit attachments first, which none of these
Speaker 5: regressionists and mass rooms of the future did, by the way,
Speaker 5: you are not going to get your past life memory.
Speaker 5: Often you are going to get the past life memory
Speaker 5: of an attached entity, but you will relive it like
Speaker 5: it's your own, and you will feel like it's your own.
Speaker 5: And the only way you'll know the difference is if
Speaker 5: they tell you and then imprinting other people's memories, and
Speaker 5: then it's seeing through another eyes, massrooms of the future,
Speaker 5: other people's memories, but you can access it and you
Speaker 5: feel like it's your own. You relive it like it's
Speaker 5: your own, but it's not. There's more in the astral Lore,
Speaker 5: where I talk about the same concept of a guy
Speaker 5: reliving another lady's past life memories in the astral hot tub,
Speaker 5: if you remember that, and he just did it by
Speaker 5: being near her, and he was sucked in without consenting
Speaker 5: to it, because they controlled the entire experience from an
Speaker 5: outside entity facilitated way. So there's four or five six
Speaker 5: plus ways off the top of my noggin, I can
Speaker 5: remember of other people's memories being relived, but you relive
Speaker 5: it like it's your own. That alone should be enough
Speaker 5: to warrant that the same thing is happening to these children,
Speaker 5: which is within the framework I'm presenting here. Totally possible.
Speaker 5: I hope that makes sense to people. It's just too
Speaker 5: many things. And then also in this part too, I
Speaker 5: talk about Karl Wicklan's thirty Years among the Dead. He
Speaker 5: says all past life memories that he accesses and other
Speaker 5: people do are from the ghost attachments. And then later
Speaker 5: Baldwin's like in the eighty years later, his work is like, no,
Speaker 5: some of it is, but reincarnation is still real. And
Speaker 5: this guy denied reincarnation and said, no, you just evolved
Speaker 5: to the spirit RUMs higher and higher. And he knows
Speaker 5: that not just because of his own experiences, because entities
Speaker 5: to him, they will tell different people different things based
Speaker 5: on what they're willing to accept, and they don't care
Speaker 5: about diverging in logic because no one is going to
Speaker 5: cross reference these things hardly at all, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: It's more worth it to get different stories to different people.
Speaker 5: So it's there's too many divergences in logic to say
Speaker 5: this is all believable, and why and if it's real,
Speaker 5: if reincarnation is real, why are so many deceitful entities
Speaker 5: giving you fake visions to make you believe it's real?
Speaker 1: What is the point?
Speaker 5: I think of one explanation that makes sense, and that's
Speaker 5: the Bible's explanation for this, a great deception carried out
Speaker 5: by demon's that that explains everything, That explains everything we're
Speaker 5: dealing with here in a in a logical way. Nobody
Speaker 5: else's framework has a complete explanation for everything. And if
Speaker 5: they do, they have yet to tell me. So hit
Speaker 5: me up, guys, haters, Let's see how much time you
Speaker 5: think we got right now?
Speaker 1: How what are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Brother? I got nothing?
Speaker 1: But I love it.
Speaker 5: Because I always say I always skip this part because
Speaker 5: it's not the most important, but I do like it,
Speaker 5: and I never everybody always was rushing me because I
Speaker 5: take three hours, four hours with her time you.
Speaker 2: Go, So she heard it here first. This is new exclusive.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5: Let's I let's hope I remember what to say because
Speaker 5: I haven't even talked about this one yet.
Speaker 1: But we'll see.
Speaker 5: So there's this book. I'll give you a small little
Speaker 5: background on it. I spend twenty pages of my book
Speaker 5: breaking down a lot of lore in this book because
Speaker 5: it's totally deceptive in so many ways. It's called inter
Speaker 5: initiation by.
Speaker 1: Frick. I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 5: What's her name, Elizabeth hyach h A I c H Yeah,
Speaker 5: Elizabeth hih. And she is going through her book basically
Speaker 5: telling her whole story of accessing her past life memories.
Speaker 5: And she accesses a lot of memories of this past
Speaker 5: life where she was a high priestess in Egypt and
Speaker 5: her father was her her father was the the what
Speaker 5: is the king called their their version of a king,
Speaker 5: the hot Yeah, he was the he was the pharaoh.
Speaker 5: He was the pharaoh. Her dad was the pharaoh good
Speaker 5: for her, and he was the best father ever.
Speaker 1: She loved him. He was great.
Speaker 5: And her uncle was the right uh her her uncle
Speaker 5: was the high priest.
Speaker 1: They're always no, yeah.
Speaker 2: They're perfect princess or not in shining armor. There are
Speaker 2: always something grandiose. It's like, yeah, how come nobody gets
Speaker 2: a past life memory being the pizza delivery boy at Domino's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure some some people do.
Speaker 2: A delivery boy matters too.
Speaker 5: There's more him than high priests is in Egypt, that's
Speaker 5: for sure. Uh So, yeah, so that's her. Her whole
Speaker 5: life is a high priestess, and her whole mission is
Speaker 5: getting initiated into the secret Society. She wants to learn
Speaker 5: occult knowledge and get psychic abilities.
Speaker 1: And she and at.
Speaker 5: First they're like, no, you're too young, you're just a woman.
Speaker 5: You have to first do a couple of things. And
Speaker 5: she's like, no, I want it, No, I want it,
Speaker 5: and they're like okay, fine, and they do it. And
Speaker 5: her whole book is accessing these spirit, you know, these
Speaker 5: memories of her, you know, gaining these powers. And it's
Speaker 5: a pretty well written book for the most part, but
Speaker 5: there's a lot of slop in it. Well it's all slot,
Speaker 5: but you know, it's it's it's well done relative to
Speaker 5: other sources. I spend a whole page in my book
Speaker 5: talking about how many people specifically claim to be a
Speaker 5: high priestesst in Egypt. I collected I think over a
Speaker 5: dozen just in my book alone, but there's more out there.
Speaker 5: There's just how many are there that are acising their
Speaker 5: past life memories in this life and collecting.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just crazy.
Speaker 5: So there is a lot of rebranding Biblical cosmology and
Speaker 5: stories in this book. Like she'll she'll go in to
Speaker 5: her past life memory, and in this past life memory,
Speaker 5: her uncle, who is the top spiritual leader in her area,
Speaker 5: is putting her his hand on her head to get
Speaker 5: her to access a kashik records memories of the earth,
Speaker 5: not just of her, but of like, you know, things
Speaker 5: that happened in the Bible, and give hering a whole
Speaker 5: different story of what happened in with Moses and Aaron,
Speaker 5: like giving totally like similar stories, but it's it's rebranding
Speaker 5: it completely, and he'll do it by putting his hand
Speaker 5: on her head. So it's admitting your psychic can rressions,
Speaker 5: your psychic access to knowledge can come from somebody outside
Speaker 5: of yourself, by the way, which is exactly what she
Speaker 5: did in her memory. So in her memory, she's going
Speaker 5: into a deeper memory, which is just like the astral lore.
Speaker 5: You're not really going into one into another. You're switching
Speaker 5: to a new vision which.
Speaker 1: Is all controlled by these entities strategically. So so what Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me just read the excerpt here.
Speaker 5: So she gets on near the end of a book.
Speaker 5: She goes on a vision quest ritual. Now, this is
Speaker 5: very crazy, and I don't uh, I've never heard some
Speaker 5: of these details shared by anybody else.
Speaker 1: Let me make sure I'm drudging.
Speaker 2: Or is it like sleep deprivation.
Speaker 5: It's going into like a coffin like the freakin skull
Speaker 5: and Bone society, and and uh fat like fasting for
Speaker 5: days before and then getting into a trance state and
Speaker 5: then having an encounter with your spirit or something. I'll
Speaker 5: get into it in a second. Uh before I do,
Speaker 5: Before I do, I want to read this excerpt, which
Speaker 5: is rebranding biblical terminology pretty very on the nose, and
Speaker 5: it says, but now listen to the good news. Your
Speaker 5: body is the result of a separation. It is only
Speaker 5: the visible half of your own true other, true self.
Speaker 5: The other half remained in the unmanifested, unconscious part of
Speaker 5: your being, not a demon, but part of you. By
Speaker 5: uniting these two complementary halves with each other, you can
Speaker 5: return to divine unity. You can expand your consciousness until
Speaker 5: you make the unconscious part of yourself, not a demon
Speaker 5: of you, completely conscious, until you consciously experienced the unmanifested
Speaker 5: the invisible half of yourself, and in this way achieve
Speaker 5: divine unity with your consciousness. You can merge your conscious
Speaker 5: and consciousness that keep saying it, with your own true
Speaker 5: self out of which you have fallen, thus forming the
Speaker 5: perfect unity. In this way you can experience bliss, experience God,
Speaker 5: be God. You will achieve the unity with God and
Speaker 5: simultaneously with the entire universe. This means you will again
Speaker 5: be eating from the fruit of the tree of life.
Speaker 5: In short, you will have achieved your resurrection in eternal being.
Speaker 1: And that is initiation.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's taking Genesis three twenty two the tree
Speaker 5: of life thing and really twisting it on its head
Speaker 5: making it sound like a good thing. Oh, you need
Speaker 5: to unify with your unconscious manifest itself saying basically you
Speaker 5: or higher self who may or may not be a demon,
Speaker 5: impersonating it such, asking you for consent to possess you
Speaker 5: by conjoining, by merging. That is the other side of
Speaker 5: this coin and the Christian viewpoint. It is a demon
Speaker 5: trying to convince you they're a higher being.
Speaker 1: They're you, You're.
Speaker 5: God and if you connect to this, you can be
Speaker 5: part of God and you can feel great and they
Speaker 5: can make you feel good. I'm sure, but doesn't mean
Speaker 5: it's a good thing happening.
Speaker 1: And then another that ever happens.
Speaker 2: Guys, I'm go'n tell you right now. I've heard it
Speaker 2: my whole life. It's like the cop showing up trying
Speaker 2: to buy pop from you. When you use a teenager,
Speaker 2: you gotta ask you if they're a cop, they have
Speaker 2: to tell you. So ask your a demon, they have
Speaker 2: to tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't see a lot of people don't question them
Speaker 5: are you a demon? Because they don't believe in that,
Speaker 5: you know, the new agers types. But yeah, you know
Speaker 5: I'm sure Dan Duvall might have asked the spirit he's
Speaker 5: channeled before, are you a demon?
Speaker 1: And they lie to him.
Speaker 5: I'm sure he has asked, but he doesn't seem to
Speaker 5: be open to the whole idea of demon's impersonating characters,
Speaker 5: because then that means they're impersoning Jesus and angels, which
Speaker 5: he's channeling. So I feel like he doesn't ask that
Speaker 5: because it would be a red flag for him very quickly.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if that's a rule, but they
Speaker 5: definitely do their best to avoid that question coming up,
Speaker 5: no doubt. So when it comes to the vision quest
Speaker 5: thing near the end of the book, which is this
Speaker 5: is what initiation is, it's going through this process now,
Speaker 5: this is initiation to a secret society, which many people
Speaker 5: have done. Obviously in real life, isn't exactly like this.
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe for some people. But what the
Speaker 5: story they're telling here is kind of a nightmare. So
Speaker 5: let me see what this covers. Okay, this is her uncle,
Speaker 5: the High Priest, is explaining to her what's about to
Speaker 5: happen and what she needs to do because she's about
Speaker 5: to get initiated officially.
Speaker 2: Now, So the Egyptian past life.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is in a past life memory.
Speaker 5: She's reliving this, and it gets even and she gets
Speaker 5: into a deeper vision quest after this, which is all
Speaker 5: switching to a new vision. It's the same thing. Now
Speaker 5: she doesn't have autonomy. This is all memory. So they
Speaker 5: can control your autonomy and make it just a memory
Speaker 5: if they want, and obviously give you autonomy in the
Speaker 5: astral to certain degrees. So her uncle's talking her, explaining
Speaker 5: to what's about to happen. Her uncle, the High Priests, says,
Speaker 5: remember very carefully what I'm telling you. Now, when you
Speaker 5: become conscious in one octave and vibration, you are in
Speaker 5: tune with this frequency and its whole sphere represents absolute
Speaker 5: reality for you, saying you're about to go into a simulation.
Speaker 5: It's going to be fake. He's telling her, it's going
Speaker 5: to be fake. But if you get lost in it
Speaker 5: and think it's real, you can get stuck there. And well,
Speaker 5: I'll just read it, he says, when you have passed
Speaker 5: the test in one degree, because there's going to be
Speaker 5: multiple tests in a row in different simulations. When you
Speaker 5: pass the test and one degree, you will waken in
Speaker 5: the next sphere and realize you are only dreaming in
Speaker 5: the level below. This sounds a lot like Episode one
Speaker 5: the Astral Traveler at the beginning I talked about with
Speaker 5: currently Escape Room.
Speaker 1: Same concept here.
Speaker 5: But if you don't pass the test, that is, if
Speaker 5: you identify yourself with the events and don't succeed in
Speaker 5: remaining to master all of them, all of these dream
Speaker 5: pictures will remain real for you, and you'll have to
Speaker 5: experience all of them to the very end as real
Speaker 5: events in the world of time and space. That would
Speaker 5: mean your body would have to die here in this coffin,
Speaker 5: and you would have to go on dreaming your own
Speaker 5: dream pictures and countless reincarnations on the long path of
Speaker 5: mortal existence for many thousands of years while you gradually
Speaker 5: struggled upward from this lower level to which you have fallen.
Speaker 5: Pausing real quick, He's saying, you're gonna get tested in
Speaker 5: like seven dream simulations, and if you get stuck in
Speaker 5: them and think they're real in real life, they will
Speaker 5: become real life and you will have to reincarnate in
Speaker 5: this fake dream reality simulation forever until you figure it out. Now,
Speaker 5: that's trying to They want the reader to read this
Speaker 5: in question, Oh my god, am I'm that fake reality?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 5: Do I have to wake up? Do I have to
Speaker 5: go out of body to figure this out? They want
Speaker 5: you to question your own reality, make you think it's
Speaker 5: all pointless. It is so, it's so like diabolical man.
Speaker 5: But they're saying, you can get stuck in a fake
Speaker 5: dream for thousands of dream years and it will feel real,
Speaker 5: and you'll die in this coffin and you'll incarnate in
Speaker 5: a fake realm that doesn't exist except in your own head.
Speaker 5: That's what they're saying is true, Okay, so keep that
Speaker 5: in mind. So then he says, every dream is a
Speaker 5: reality as long as you believe it's to be real.
Speaker 5: When you pass all the tests, you experience all the
Speaker 5: lives that you would have to experience as a fallen
Speaker 5: soul on earth, free of time and space, you experience
Speaker 5: them as dreams, awakening on the next level of consciousness. Finally,
Speaker 5: you awaken on the seventh level in this the cosmic
Speaker 5: consciousness of the self, whatever that freaking means.
Speaker 1: In the divine.
Speaker 5: In this divine state, you become one with the last
Speaker 5: and highest and only reality, with yourself, with God.
Speaker 1: You merge with God.
Speaker 5: Himself not a demon. This is no longer an awakening
Speaker 5: but a resurrection. That's great terminology to use. So yeah,
Speaker 5: it's it's very It's not something I hear often the
Speaker 5: whole you'll get stuck in a fake world for thousands
Speaker 5: of years. I've never heard that anywhere else. I'm sure
Speaker 5: other people have talked about it, but this is what
Speaker 5: it takes to be initiated. You have to go to
Speaker 5: these dream tests. And you know, I spent a few
Speaker 5: page breaking down the actual tests she goes through, and
Speaker 5: it's basically a demon coming to her. And then in
Speaker 5: the first test, it's a demon coming to her and
Speaker 5: telling her you're part of me, like I'm with you
Speaker 5: and blah blah blah and you know you can't escape me,
Speaker 5: and making it sound evil. And then she's like, no,
Speaker 5: you're not part of me. You're part of my lower self.
Speaker 5: I need to access the higher self, which is totally different,
Speaker 5: totally different guy.
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, you got me because you accepted
Speaker 1: that I'm not.
Speaker 5: Part of you, and he like does this fade out
Speaker 5: echo routine where he's.
Speaker 1: Like no, and then the next phase starts.
Speaker 5: But it's all entity facilitated visions, but you defeated him
Speaker 5: by recognizing the truth, apparently. And then she's dancing with
Speaker 5: a man in some in some no, no, no, She's
Speaker 5: going to a room where everybody's partying in the second test,
Speaker 5: and everybody's dancing and everybody's like having a good time,
Speaker 5: and she's like looking at everybody's like, there's stupid. And
Speaker 5: then she gets a man come up to her trying
Speaker 5: to dance with her, and she's like, no, you're just
Speaker 5: a man. I need to connect with my spirit, with
Speaker 5: my soul, with my higher self. I don't need any
Speaker 5: you know, love on this in this earth plane, I'm celibate.
Speaker 5: And then she passed the test and that was the test,
Speaker 5: you know, something like that, And then it goes on
Speaker 5: for a couple more and it's just eventually at the
Speaker 5: end she ends up reuniting with her soul and becomes
Speaker 5: part of God because she passed the vision quest. It's
Speaker 5: very elaborate and stupid, and I don't think people understand
Speaker 5: this is what is coming out of past life memories
Speaker 5: in great details.
Speaker 2: It's very gnostic, you know what I mean. Absolutely, you're
Speaker 2: just escaping the prison planet and you are a shard
Speaker 2: from the hole. You have a sparkle of the divine
Speaker 2: and therefore by going through these tests, you know, it's
Speaker 2: an alchemical change. You're purifying that essence of God and
Speaker 2: returning it back to him, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it's all very nice sounding on the surface. Yeah,
Speaker 5: if you're just dipping your tone in this stuff and
Speaker 5: you hear that, it sounds nice, it sounds fun and
Speaker 5: like I got pulled into it for a little bit.
Speaker 5: But when you really deep dive into it, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of mental gymnastics you have to do to justify
Speaker 5: all the very obviously.
Speaker 1: Deceptive entities involved.
Speaker 5: And if they're deceiving me telling me the same stuff
Speaker 5: that I think sounds so nice and gnostic, if it's true,
Speaker 5: why are they going through great lengths of lies to
Speaker 5: get me to that truth? You know it's it's not.
Speaker 5: It seems like a bad sign. Now we're gonna move
Speaker 5: on to some crazier stuff, believe it or not, and
Speaker 5: that is the somehow largely ignored Secret Space Program lore,
Speaker 5: which is some of the craziest stuff you'll ever encounter.
Speaker 5: I don't know how how aware you of what they
Speaker 5: say about Secret Space program and what goes on there.
Speaker 2: I'm completely ignorant.
Speaker 1: Really, Okay, a lot of people are, dude, and it shocked.
Speaker 1: I get why. It's like a lot.
Speaker 5: But if you reverse engineer the lies coming from this blooney,
Speaker 5: it can tell you a lot. And uh, I'll just
Speaker 5: give a you know, thousand foot review of what's going
Speaker 5: on in it, and the details are really out there,
Speaker 5: and I'll try to share few. But Secret Space Program
Speaker 5: is apparently a program, a black project that started, you know,
Speaker 5: a couple decades ago, and there's apparently different people doing
Speaker 5: their own operations of it. There might be a couple
Speaker 5: groups doing their own versions, but it's where they find
Speaker 5: people for hire, or they'll they'll force people into it,
Speaker 5: or they'll get military people to agree to joining this program.
Speaker 5: And in this program, apparently according to dozens of whistleblowers,
Speaker 5: I've read, you know, there's multiple books on this. There's
Speaker 5: many interviews. It's it's like a couple dozen people doing
Speaker 5: a bunch of interviews. I've listened to over sixty of
Speaker 5: them at least, and I've read two or three books
Speaker 5: on it.
Speaker 1: It is crazy.
Speaker 5: They say that they are chosen to time travel into
Speaker 5: the future and then work for or time travel into
Speaker 5: a future timeline that may or may not come to pass,
Speaker 5: and they work in this timeline for usually twenty years,
Speaker 5: because if they stay any longer, their brain will be
Speaker 5: scrambled a bits, apparently, so they some people do sixty years,
Speaker 5: but it's mostly twenty. And after twenty years of a
Speaker 5: very hard, usually slave like labor, very awful stuff, traumatic stuff,
Speaker 5: they will be time shot back into where they left.
Speaker 5: Because what happens is they're going they're signing an hour's
Speaker 5: worth of contracts which they don't read consent. They're signing
Speaker 5: all these contracts and they are going into a pod
Speaker 5: and in that pod is where they time travel or
Speaker 5: but they come back fifteen minutes later, so twenty years past.
Speaker 5: But they come back to the same pod and fifteen
Speaker 5: minutes past, and they apparently are age regressed as well,
Speaker 5: so they aged they physically went there, it's not but
Speaker 5: other people like Dani Vall, say no, it's their sole
Speaker 5: fragment who went to the future, so their body stayed
Speaker 5: there and didn't actually travel. But the other people say, no,
Speaker 5: my body went and then they age regressed me like, well,
Speaker 5: which is it? But you know, Dandy Wall supports a
Speaker 5: secret space rogum law as well, which is not very gnostic.
Speaker 5: So they work for twenty years on interplanetary you know,
Speaker 5: agreements with aliens. They work with the Nordics a lot.
Speaker 1: They do.
Speaker 5: Mining on moons, like slave like like resource mining. They
Speaker 5: rescue slaves from reptilians on other planets. They do all
Speaker 5: these missions, right, and they're not getting all twenty years
Speaker 5: of memories. They're getting gaps and pieces, you know whatever.
Speaker 5: It creates a narrative that they want to spin. So
Speaker 5: here's why it's problematic. Well, there's many reasons, but here's
Speaker 5: what's going on. If someone comes to you know, there
Speaker 5: a lot of them are mklture SRA survivors, right, a
Speaker 5: lot of these people who have these memories, and if
Speaker 5: they want to disqualify everything, they're saying, okay, let's give
Speaker 5: these people a crazy SSP memory or a moonstrip memory
Speaker 5: or a water Kingdom memory, which we'll hopefully get into
Speaker 5: it a minute, and we give them these crazy memories.
Speaker 5: So anybody who hears it will go, oh, that's obviously
Speaker 5: fake and they're insane people. But there's many people saying
Speaker 5: the same stuff, keep in mind, or so that that
Speaker 5: gets people to not believe it. All of it all
Speaker 5: the sra bes everything, or you believe all of it
Speaker 5: and take it all on board, which makes you a
Speaker 5: gnostic basically, because it's a lot of gnostic lore. So
Speaker 5: it's a win win for the agenda, because either way
Speaker 5: you're deceived unless you believe the narrow road of no.
Speaker 5: It's a fabricated memory for disinformation purposes, which is what
Speaker 5: I'm pushing now. So these people are time shot, they're
Speaker 5: age of rest. It's it's I don't believe in time travel.
Speaker 5: Part four if we do is a time travel debunk.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do my best with that. It'll be ready
Speaker 5: like in a week or two. But they want you
Speaker 5: to believe in time travel because.
Speaker 2: They're destroying the future fantasy.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but somebody had to do it. Man, it's
Speaker 5: a dude. They're gonna push I think they're really gonna
Speaker 5: push the whole alternate. They're gonna push the many timelines
Speaker 5: and we're at a conjunction of time where our collective
Speaker 5: decisions as humans is gonna guide us to one timeline
Speaker 5: or the other. And they might say, like they have
Speaker 5: a various lore that the Nordics are from the good
Speaker 5: timeline or the really spiritual timeline, and then the Grays
Speaker 5: are us from the materialist scientific timeline where we went
Speaker 5: too hard that way and we got to pick which
Speaker 5: side we want. We're probably gonna pick the sexy Nordics
Speaker 5: or something in between. That's maybe because they're both problematic.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but they're they're pre programming that lore
Speaker 5: in quite a bit of ways with the timeline war stuff,
Speaker 5: so I think we need to debunk it. So the
Speaker 5: secret space program, secret space program lore, which is dowloaded memories,
Speaker 5: in my opinion, promotes time travel, promotes age aggression.
Speaker 1: Technology.
Speaker 5: Maybe we got some stuff to keep us young, But
Speaker 5: I don't think they can age of Russes.
Speaker 1: I think they can clone us. That's different.
Speaker 5: Now they only have a They go out, they time
Speaker 5: shoot in the future twenty years boom, you're back fifteen
Speaker 5: minutes later. And they don't have immediate memories. They say
Speaker 5: their memories are wiped also with technology immediately.
Speaker 1: But they come back.
Speaker 5: When they come back out of this pod, they immediately
Speaker 5: feel sick and very very very like dizzy, nauseous.
Speaker 1: They feel like very traumatized. They don't know why.
Speaker 5: What I think is going on is they're getting into
Speaker 5: a pod that gets them to the perfect trance state,
Speaker 5: and then an entity is doing the heavy lifting, not technology,
Speaker 5: and they're leaving you a lot of loose ends of feelings,
Speaker 5: like a lot of impressions, downloads of impressions. You just
Speaker 5: signed a munch of contracts literally, and they're leaving you
Speaker 5: with impressions to be confused but not understand what's happening,
Speaker 5: but leaving you with a desire to go. I want
Speaker 5: to know what's happening. And over the years, these memories
Speaker 5: of SSP aren't with you immediately. They come back over
Speaker 5: years through meditations, regressions where you're trying to access them,
Speaker 5: through meditations, through dreams and visions. This is how they're
Speaker 5: coming back, just like every other past life memory, just
Speaker 5: like everything else. Say mechanism, you're accessing these SSP memories right,
Speaker 5: And I'll get into some of the low they say
Speaker 5: in a minute. But it's the same mechanism and has
Speaker 5: similar lore. Many aliens, many factions life everywhere, work for resources,
Speaker 5: good bad factions. It's not all just one unified deceiver,
Speaker 5: like you know Christians would say. So here's some of
Speaker 5: the crazy things that you have to believe if you
Speaker 5: want to believe these SSP memories, And if you think
Speaker 5: they're crazy and fake, then what does that say about
Speaker 5: the nature of implanting memories. Here's one thing, The Interplanetary
Speaker 5: Corporate Conglomerate, which is also something in a movie they've used.
Speaker 5: The ICC is a breakaway consortium of Boeing and Lockey
Speaker 5: type companies, and they abduct humans for slave tra two
Speaker 5: hundreds of et species in exchange for not currency exactly,
Speaker 5: but exotic tech. Interesting. I thought all these aliens were
Speaker 5: advanced enough they didn't need to keep doing that, but
Speaker 5: human slave trade, which I'm not saying it's above them.
Speaker 5: I'm sure they would do things like that, but I
Speaker 5: don't think they're allowed to do that, and also can
Speaker 5: because there's not other factions out there doing this.
Speaker 1: That's what I believe.
Speaker 5: So and SSP memories have people rescuing these slave traders,
Speaker 5: and we'll get into testimony of that in just a minute.
Speaker 5: Another thing is that many World War two Nazis escaped
Speaker 5: to an Arctica, allied with Draco Reptilians and still operate
Speaker 5: its own interstellar military and trade fleet using human slaves.
Speaker 5: But these aren't the Nordics. This is like a different group.
Speaker 5: This is like the proto Nordics, maybe before they time
Speaker 5: traveled into the pass and evol for two hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty million years.
Speaker 1: Like Jason Georgiohnny says.
Speaker 5: Jason Georgiohnny, who's an asshole and trusts everything that remote
Speaker 5: viewers tell them, I'm not sorry that guys mean to me,
Speaker 5: so whatever, I'm over it clearly.
Speaker 1: But he yeah, he doesn't not agree with me, that's
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: But another thing is it's very confusing, so much to remember,
Speaker 2: and then like you said, they contradict each other, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's a lot.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to do a summarized breakdown of showing
Speaker 5: the clear like like kooky stuff happening, and also the
Speaker 5: clear admittance of deception because they basically flatly admit it
Speaker 5: in many ways with these impressed memories and and like
Speaker 5: incongruence or incompatibilities between different lore. There's just too many
Speaker 5: and there's more. I'm just doing my best to summarize
Speaker 5: what I can today. But the SS piece of a
Speaker 5: super elaborate, super crazy and takes a lot of work
Speaker 5: to understand. I'm just giving you a couple of the
Speaker 5: crazy nuggets, so people understand this is what they're telling people,
Speaker 5: and this is what dozens and dozens of people are
Speaker 5: getting matching memories of. So it's either real or it's
Speaker 5: fake and implanted. So yeah, here's another thing. Is the
Speaker 5: moon inside it is a gentle is a giant central
Speaker 5: hub called Lunar Operations Command LOC that functions as a
Speaker 5: multinational and dip plematic spaceport with segregated zones for rival
Speaker 5: human factions and ET groups. So they all politely enough
Speaker 5: work in the same space inside the moon, but they
Speaker 5: they're all you know, warring factions, but they work inside
Speaker 5: the moon together all these different alien factions in humans.
Speaker 5: So that's just another thing you have to believe. And
Speaker 5: apparently ultra terrestrials, which is different from ET's it's you know,
Speaker 5: they're higher level ascended master types, but like high level entities.
Speaker 5: Raw material would call them six density Wanderers or something
Speaker 5: they have or six density beings. They apparently established in
Speaker 5: the last few decades a giant barrier or shield around
Speaker 5: the Solar System, which is protecting us from reinforcements of
Speaker 5: aliens coming in because there's so many out there, they
Speaker 5: can just bring in tons so they just block them out,
Speaker 5: and it's keeping the ones that are already inside from leaving.
Speaker 5: The whole point of saying this is so we have
Speaker 5: a fair chance of fighting off the aliens. Because anybody
Speaker 5: who believes in this multiple factions infinite life, they're like,
Speaker 5: how can we compete with all these alien factions?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Because the shield, The shield protects us, the shield from
Speaker 5: the the ultra terrestials that are helping us.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Trump went into the future and made that celestial walls
Speaker 2: make our universe.
Speaker 1: No, literally, they talk about bro.
Speaker 5: I was just about to talk about Trump and the
Speaker 5: SSP stuff, because it is connected very heavily. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: I'll remind me to go back to this Jason Sands
Speaker 5: material in just a second. But I guess i'll I'll
Speaker 5: do a rant.
Speaker 2: Real quest'll what happened to Obama or not Obama Biden?
Speaker 2: He tried to go in the future and help out,
Speaker 2: and it just scrambled his brain. You know.
Speaker 1: Bah, that's but it never feels like enough. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I believe that story more than others I've heard about him,
Speaker 5: that he's just from the future and he's just doing
Speaker 5: his best. But he's got that old feeble time scrambled
Speaker 5: brain from alternate timelines makes sense.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there is.
Speaker 2: Donald had to go and show him up too.
Speaker 5: So yeah, right, Actually, before I do the Donald Trump thing,
Speaker 5: because it is very important right here, I'm gonna do
Speaker 5: this in order, I wanted to read a couple a
Speaker 5: little excerpt which is important because this is from Jason Sands,
Speaker 5: who I have nothing but nice things to say about.
Speaker 1: He's a good guy.
Speaker 5: He I think is deceived by these false memories, but
Speaker 5: he is. He was forced to be part of the
Speaker 5: SSP program. He only talks about the specifics of his memories.
Speaker 5: In one space, he says, and that's a doom room
Speaker 5: he did with Fringe, who I'm a big fan of.
Speaker 5: She knows that, and she Fringe and doom Er Daddy
Speaker 5: Ulrich in the doom room some homies, and they questioned
Speaker 5: him on the SSP stuff, and it is very insightful
Speaker 5: some of the language he uses. So he only shared
Speaker 5: this one time, and so if anybody would like the space,
Speaker 5: let me know what will message of it. But Jason's
Speaker 5: talking about his secret Space Program type missions such as
Speaker 5: eliminating reptilian groups with advanced guns and rescuing humans off
Speaker 5: planet you know, part of the slave trade and more
Speaker 5: crazy stuff. But Fringe asks Jason if these missions have
Speaker 5: any dream like material or non physical slash astral elements
Speaker 5: to them. Is there anything like that part of these
Speaker 5: memories and or like any drugging trance states, et cetera.
Speaker 5: And he says there's no drugging involved.
Speaker 1: It's more like.
Speaker 5: Paralysis, and quotes the ability for some of these NHI
Speaker 5: to kind of switch you off. All I remember is
Speaker 5: being in one place at one point, where I was
Speaker 5: in my bed or in a facility, and having some awareness,
Speaker 5: and then being switched off. Next thing, I'm in a helicopter,
Speaker 5: another or another kind of conveyance, or it was an
Speaker 5: NHI craft. I think sometimes that was the case. I
Speaker 5: was in one of them, and I'd be switched on,
Speaker 5: and they'd already be moving towards and I'd already be
Speaker 5: moving towards the objective, and somehow telepathically or mentally, I
Speaker 5: already had a picture in my head telling me where
Speaker 5: to go, what the first objective was, what I was
Speaker 5: supposed to do. The only part where I had more
Speaker 5: freedom was the actual hand to hand combat. So he's
Speaker 5: telling you these entities while he's in the SSP program,
Speaker 5: are constantly switching his consciousness on and off, and also
Speaker 5: switching him on as he's already moving towards targets, which
Speaker 5: means they already were possessing your body and control rolling it,
Speaker 5: and then they just choose to give you awareness at
Speaker 5: this random point so that you do the heavy lifting.
Speaker 5: But they already were possessing you, So like, why even
Speaker 5: do they need you to be active for this?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is it to tell a story? Maybe so?
Speaker 5: And then he says, the only part we has freedom
Speaker 5: is hand to hand comback, which means he's guided and
Speaker 5: pushed and intuitively guide just like the actual traveler.
Speaker 1: Same thing.
Speaker 5: He is guided towards these sayings and then has a
Speaker 5: little bit autonomy that they gift him with because they
Speaker 5: can control that. And then boom, he's fighting and it's
Speaker 5: all theatrics anyway, and he wins obviously every battle he's in,
Speaker 5: so he get a bad one thousand in these situations,
Speaker 5: and he says they're constantly switching him on and off,
Speaker 5: and then he says or soon after that, Fringe says
Speaker 5: she's been in similar scenarios and asks if he knows
Speaker 5: if he was in his body. He says, whether I
Speaker 5: was in my body or in avatar, I couldn't tell you. Also,
Speaker 5: when I felt pain, it was real pain. Well, feeling
Speaker 5: pain doesn't mean it's real, because people in dreams and
Speaker 5: in these scenarios and past lives experience pain. When they
Speaker 5: relive it, it doesn't mean it's real. It's the sensation.
Speaker 5: They can create death of dismemberment ritual.
Speaker 2: Early close to a biblical verse two.
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: Remember Paul was talking, I can't remember what book it
Speaker 2: was in.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh.
Speaker 2: He said, Uh, I traveled to the second Heaven. I
Speaker 2: don't know whether if it was in spirit or embody. Uh,
Speaker 2: because where he was talking about a free end. But
Speaker 2: he was talking about a scenario where someone went to
Speaker 2: the second heaven, but he didn't know if it was
Speaker 2: in spirit or embody.
Speaker 5: That's a great note because the fact that they don't
Speaker 5: know means that it feels so real you can't tell
Speaker 5: the difference, which is fully backed up in Part one
Speaker 5: astral material, where I say, no matter where they go,
Speaker 5: they can make it feel realer than reality. Even when
Speaker 5: it's an admitted simulation. They will say it's so real.
Speaker 5: I get lost in it. My lucidity is so low,
Speaker 5: I forget where I'm at. I think it's a past
Speaker 5: life memory. That's what they constantly say. Really, they're just
Speaker 5: messing with their lucidity in the simulation so that people think, oh,
Speaker 5: it's just my lucidity being jacked with there, and that
Speaker 5: makes everything else real. It's it's strategically done in my opinion,
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah. He says he doesn't know if he's
Speaker 5: in his body or not, or an avatar, which important note,
Speaker 5: and then she regarding the memory of these events in general,
Speaker 5: he says, it's pretty fat fragmentary because of all the
Speaker 5: turning on and off. So it's all entity facilitated here admittedly,
Speaker 5: So is it real places he's going to or is
Speaker 5: he being shown fake visions, fake astral simulations to guide
Speaker 5: him into believing that there's multiple alien factions, warring factions
Speaker 5: that are all across the world human slave trade, which
Speaker 5: we need to save them. That's what we're here to help.
Speaker 5: We're here to help them. The Nordics are here to help,
Speaker 5: which is what we're doing the jobs with. It's creating
Speaker 5: a narrative that is very antibiblical, a gnostic and promotes
Speaker 5: the literal alien theory, but there's very little evidence that,
Speaker 5: or no evidence that I can think of that isn't
Speaker 5: simulation based potentially that you know, proposes that aliens are
Speaker 5: literal aliens from other planets as opposed to demons and
Speaker 5: meatsuits carrying out a deception. So there's no real tangible
Speaker 5: evidence we have otherwise, other than these experiences which could
Speaker 5: be totally fabricated.
Speaker 1: You know, what is the Bible.
Speaker 5: Saying Jeremiah fourteen fourteen, Jeremiah twenty three, thirty two, Deuteronomy
Speaker 5: thirteen one through three, Ezekiel's thirteen six through seven.
Speaker 1: Look at those verses.
Speaker 5: You'll see false dream, false vision, false divination, a lie, useless.
Speaker 5: The Bible tells you that these things are possible. You
Speaker 5: just don't get the details. He don't understand how deep
Speaker 5: it goes. But I'm telling you this is what it's
Speaker 5: talking about. So that's SSP lore from Jason Sands. Very
Speaker 5: good guy, but deceived, and that's why he's allowed to speak.
Speaker 5: On Joe Rogan, I think because he does not hurt
Speaker 5: the narrative at all with his belief system. But he's
Speaker 5: a Christian, just you know, kind of more expansive style,
Speaker 5: and you know, I'll be praying for you, bro.
Speaker 1: But check this out.
Speaker 5: It's easier to he has a lot of trauma from
Speaker 5: these things, rightfully so, but I feel like a lot
Speaker 5: of it would be easier to clear up if you
Speaker 5: understood what was really going on here, Jack.
Speaker 2: But yeah, complimenting how pretty you look today?
Speaker 5: Oh I thank you, Jack. I washed my hair yesterday.
Speaker 5: I timed it for this podcast. I didn't otherwise I'd
Speaker 5: be all in nasty looking and greasy.
Speaker 1: I still am a little greasy, but like more manageable.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I feel pretty. Thanks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's nothing wrong with a little bit
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: So we're almost done with SSP lor but I do
Speaker 5: need to do a quick rant. That is uh probably
Speaker 5: the craziest element, well in a way of the SSP
Speaker 5: law is pretty much all of these sources that do
Speaker 5: these interviews and books all name drop Donnie t the man,
Speaker 5: the man in the White House.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: They all name drop Trump and say that he specifically
Speaker 5: is a white hat, just like the QAnon lore. Same
Speaker 5: thing says he is a white hat working with the Nordics.
Speaker 5: His administration is working with the Nordics and fighting for disclosure.
Speaker 5: They've been saying this for years, for must like I
Speaker 5: think a decade. They've been saying this for about a decade,
Speaker 5: the QAnon type stuff, saying that he's playing five D chess,
Speaker 5: which would go, oh well, then his relationship with Israel
Speaker 5: is just him keeping his enemies closer.
Speaker 1: It's a game he's playing.
Speaker 5: That's the story they're they're brewing here, and I and
Speaker 5: I and I think that they're putting that vibe out
Speaker 5: in the actual narrative of things very well, like the
Speaker 5: whole contentious relationship him and IT and Yah who seem
Speaker 5: to have it seems to be all a game. And
Speaker 5: I think they want you to believe that, obviously, but
Speaker 5: they're all on the same side as far as I
Speaker 5: see it. But in these memories, people say that they
Speaker 5: find out Donald Trump is working with the white hats
Speaker 5: to work for disclosure and do the right thing, and
Speaker 5: he's actually a good guy. Now, if anybody still believes that,
Speaker 5: you know, they they might have to get their head checked,
Speaker 5: because that is clearly not going too well. Unless the
Speaker 5: five DE chess is super elaborate and gonna be a
Speaker 5: huge payoff someday soon.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now I feel like I'm missing something.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, sure, okay, I'll do that.
Speaker 5: Point done. I didn't know was that easy? Okay, I'll
Speaker 5: trust it anyway. So that whole thing, when I saw
Speaker 5: that lore there, that's when I started to think, oh,
Speaker 5: my god, is this the Antichrist?
Speaker 1: Are they creating lore to defend the Antichrist?
Speaker 5: For any deep conspiracy researchers who are the main enemy
Speaker 5: of the anti Christ? The people who are going to
Speaker 5: discover his identity are the deep conspiracy research who will
Speaker 5: come across this lord possibly and then boom go oh well, okay,
Speaker 5: it's five chess. It's what the QAnon bullshit says. It's
Speaker 5: it's the same thing because they're pre programming that in
Speaker 5: these elaborate memories that oh, well, dozens of people have them,
Speaker 5: so it must be true, right, But no, they're creating
Speaker 5: a counter intel campaign and protecting their asset, which is
Speaker 5: this guy. Now that's and I, you know, in my book,
Speaker 5: I write how I think he's the guy. And this
Speaker 5: was over a year ago when I, you know, was
Speaker 5: writing this, but as of late, with the things going
Speaker 5: on and his name being dragged to the mud ridiculously,
Speaker 5: so I'm thinking, oh my God, like, is he like
Speaker 5: the JOm the Baptist for the for the Guy and
Speaker 5: he's creating painting the way, which he clearly is prophetically,
Speaker 5: But is he set up as the fake villain to
Speaker 5: be defeated by the real ac who might be some
Speaker 5: Palladian Jesus or Nordic alien or something who is going
Speaker 5: to destroy the nWo, destroy the Beast's system, and use
Speaker 5: the technology, probably for their own reasons. But it seems
Speaker 5: like he's being set up for this great defeat.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 5: It could be some phoenix rising from the ashes moment
Speaker 5: where he's the guy because all.
Speaker 2: The Lord, I'm like, he's not the anti Christ. And
Speaker 2: the reason why, yeah, can tell you that is because
Speaker 2: too many people hate him.
Speaker 5: Well enough people loved him for a time to where
Speaker 5: it might fill into the scripture, because he had enough
Speaker 5: love for quite a bit. And there is a lot
Speaker 5: of scripture that is seemingly on the nose that connects
Speaker 5: him to the Guy. Quite a number of things which
Speaker 5: I recorded my book. Actually I compile a list of
Speaker 5: as many as I can, and I made the case.
Speaker 5: And here's the thing I wrote that in my book,
Speaker 5: and I'm willing to admit I was wrong totally so,
Speaker 5: but it seems like they with the whole Tucker thing
Speaker 5: and him saying, oh, I never said that and then
Speaker 5: it went viral, which he's an asset. He's absolutely playing
Speaker 5: a game here. They want you to they want you
Speaker 5: to think it's your idea, and they're kind of guiding
Speaker 5: people to him being the ac lately, which is making
Speaker 5: me question it more than ever. And now I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: he might be the villain set up to be defeated
Speaker 5: by the guy and then he's and that's the guy I.
Speaker 1: Which is probably an alien or fake alien.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm leaning towards now, But I'm open to
Speaker 5: being one way or the other because the amount of
Speaker 5: correlations are insane. But if I guess you wanted to
Speaker 5: make a fake Antichrist, you would kind of work very
Speaker 5: hard to make sure there is a lot of seeming
Speaker 5: connections to scripture, which there is.
Speaker 1: There's quite a few.
Speaker 2: I mean, all the Polici's passed, you know, and the
Speaker 2: polunteer and the all the stuff that he's pushing is
Speaker 2: definitely like a John that is you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fulfilling prophecy in a lot of ways. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and maybe the AC will take over the system but
Speaker 5: use the devices for good that they've already set up,
Speaker 5: by the way, just in time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm open to being that.
Speaker 5: But when I saw that SSP drop of his name constantly,
Speaker 5: I thought, I was like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 5: perfect way to cover for the Antichrist, to give him,
Speaker 5: to give him like you know, diffuse his the people
Speaker 5: naming him. But now it's like five D chess where
Speaker 5: it's like, well, maybe that was actually to make you
Speaker 5: think that at the same time for any schizo's like me,
Speaker 5: and it's like snip snapsipstat reverse psychology. Who knows, but
Speaker 5: they do name him, and he's an important character according
Speaker 5: to them, him in his administration, so very strange stuff,
Speaker 5: said to be working with the Nordics. Who knows if
Speaker 5: they'll fulfill that prophecy they've they've set out.
Speaker 1: But it is very.
Speaker 2: Interesting walking on the tarmac with an alien dude.
Speaker 5: People are like, is this real? And I'm like, are
Speaker 5: you he's not even No, it's not real. He posted
Speaker 5: like twenty five AI photos that day, but he is.
Speaker 5: He is kind of like leaking this idea, and I
Speaker 5: liked that it was like a gray alien, a tall gray,
Speaker 5: not like a Nordic or something. I thought that was
Speaker 5: funny because I'm like, you know, if he is the
Speaker 5: fake anti Christ and he's supposed to be defeated, then
Speaker 5: they're gonna say that our administration is working for the
Speaker 5: bad cop Aliens, which is gonna be the Grays and
Speaker 5: the Mansits and the Reptilians, and they're gonna have this
Speaker 5: faction thing, man, and the Nordics are the good guys.
Speaker 5: So it seems like that could be the route they're going.
Speaker 5: I don't know, there's a few ways they could go
Speaker 5: with it, but yeah, man, I got some more crazy
Speaker 5: stuff to talk about. We're coming up on an end
Speaker 5: soon ish within the hour, i imagine. But I got
Speaker 5: to do a couple more crazy elaborate reverse engineering of
Speaker 5: some sy ops here.
Speaker 1: And one is my labs.
Speaker 5: Do you do you know anything about military abductions my
Speaker 5: lab stuff?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Huh oh, gosh, okay, Well it's a nightmare.
Speaker 5: It is a Basically a lot of people claim to
Speaker 5: get memories of being abducted by military operations using like
Speaker 5: portal technology to the room and they'll grab them, not Aliensy.
Speaker 2: I've heard some stuff like that there's maybe not in
Speaker 2: that kind of context, but like trying to think Karen Wilkinson.
Speaker 1: Maybe she talks about I don't know, only.
Speaker 2: She talked about, you know, being abducted and all this
Speaker 2: other kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But she said by military operations.
Speaker 2: But in one of them, she remembers, she said, I
Speaker 2: was underground. She said, I was in this room. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she said, and I looked up, she said, I could
Speaker 2: see in the window. There were some people up there,
Speaker 2: she said, in military uniform she said, But I was
Speaker 2: in there with with the aliens.
Speaker 1: She said, Yeah, the aliens are there working together.
Speaker 5: They're they're working at Yes, they're working in conjunction. I
Speaker 5: was going to say, now, did she mention anything about
Speaker 5: being interrogated or questioned by them.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think she was saying that that was like the
Speaker 2: first sexual encounter she had with her handler, that that
Speaker 2: you know, this tile Nordic, you know, keept taking her
Speaker 2: and building rapport with her, and then one day she's
Speaker 2: in that room and he straps her down to a
Speaker 2: bed there and rapes her with the people in the
Speaker 2: military uniforms in the window watching from above.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks.
Speaker 5: Well, Karen, if you're listening, I have some potentially good
Speaker 5: news because I believe those are implanted memories.
Speaker 1: Uh probably.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying everybody who's taken by the government too
Speaker 5: an underground lab and getting assaulted, I'm not saying they're
Speaker 5: all fake. But when you get a military abduction with
Speaker 5: these aliens there and they question you like, I'm about
Speaker 5: to get into the questions they asked, because I think
Speaker 5: it's very insightful to what's going on here. I they're
Speaker 5: building a story in the stuff with this. It's it's
Speaker 5: always happening to people who just got abducted by real aliens,
Speaker 5: they say. And then after words, as if they're different
Speaker 5: factions and not working together, which they clearly are, they
Speaker 5: will question them and ask questions about basically the aliens
Speaker 5: that abducted them and about what happened. And it's very
Speaker 5: it's kind of silly, honestly, the way it goes. So
Speaker 5: here's some of the questions that they are asked. According
Speaker 5: to the book My Lab's Military Mind Control and Alien
Speaker 5: Abduction by Helmet and Marion Lammer, which compiles dozens of
Speaker 5: experience or testimonies from the nineties onward, framing this is
Speaker 5: a joint human et op rather than like solo alien gigs,
Speaker 5: and some of the interrogators ask questions like what did
Speaker 5: they show you? Did they mention timelines or bases, any implants, So,
Speaker 5: first of all, even though your memory raised or you know,
Speaker 5: in a drugged up kind of trance state while abducted,
Speaker 5: they're asking you specific questions as if you know. Sometimes
Speaker 5: the aliens do share disinformation with people in recovered memories,
Speaker 5: which may or may not be faked some of them.
Speaker 5: And I believe all this stuff's real and physical, and
Speaker 5: the astrolductions are real, but I think the astral ones
Speaker 5: and the regression access to memory ones often not always probably,
Speaker 5: but often are used for fake memories, planting disinformation, which, yes,
Speaker 5: we'll have a lot of bad things happen to them.
Speaker 5: And they admit to that because it's strategically smart, because
Speaker 5: otherwise it will veer too off, too much from the
Speaker 5: actual memories that people recover, and it's confusing.
Speaker 1: So we're not gonna worry about that right now.
Speaker 5: The my lab's memories, they will ask about timelines, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, first of all, the timelines thing is part
Speaker 5: of the narrative they're trying to sell us on, and
Speaker 5: why would you know about anything worthwhile sharing of timelines
Speaker 5: and bases that you could share with these people from
Speaker 5: an abduction where you're getting probed and taken for hybrid
Speaker 5: breeding and stuff. I don't know how they think you
Speaker 5: would have anything worthwhile. They also ask what do the
Speaker 5: aliens tell you for their plans for Earth? As if
Speaker 5: you don't already know. First of all, you can all
Speaker 5: time travel to the future, so you already know what
Speaker 5: the timeline, even multiple timelines plans are. There's no way
Speaker 5: they don't know. And they're all working together, first of all,
Speaker 5: so they're creating this idea of multiple factions or did
Speaker 5: they give you any messages for the government of world leaders? Okay,
Speaker 5: now it's like we're watching like a really corny alien
Speaker 5: movie from the sixties.
Speaker 1: It's like this is not.
Speaker 5: Gonna get them, yield them any fruit of real information
Speaker 5: from these people, and they're asking questions to make you
Speaker 5: think that they don't understand what each other's intentions are.
Speaker 5: We don't know what they're doing. We have no idea.
Speaker 5: We as humans have quite a quite a clue of
Speaker 5: what's going on, because there's enough information out there. How
Speaker 5: do they not know they're planting a narrative, it seems.
Speaker 5: Then there's describe any devices or symbols they showed you?
Speaker 5: Do you know what they do? Are you aware of
Speaker 5: any foreign objects in your body from them?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: What is symbols kind of close as sigils? What does
Speaker 5: that have to do with anything here? Isn't that unrelated
Speaker 5: to secular extraterrestrial life?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It seems like a little strange. They also said, did
Speaker 5: they mention other groups or beings, Reptilians, Nordics, anything like that?
Speaker 5: Or what year did or what year or place did
Speaker 5: they say they came from? You don't even know what
Speaker 5: like area these aliens are from, but we're have constant
Speaker 5: interactions with them, and there's mult I do.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It just all the aliens' abductions seem to be hybrid
Speaker 5: breeding related or narrative creation with the whole reasons why
Speaker 5: they're here their star seeds, they manipulate you gain more consents.
Speaker 5: They they seem to be and then programming people with
Speaker 5: certain belief systems. They're acting like there's all these different
Speaker 5: various types of things happening, but it's really just the
Speaker 5: hybrid breeding program which seems to be the main thing,
Speaker 5: and they're acting like they don't know what their plans are,
Speaker 5: and it's just.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't buy that these aliens don't know what's
Speaker 5: going on, even if they are different factions. It doesn't Uh,
Speaker 5: it seems too It just seems too on the nose
Speaker 5: of like because then you get this memory and then
Speaker 5: you go, oh my god, there must be multiple factions.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, there must be you know, government working
Speaker 5: with aliens, and there's all these different sorts of groups
Speaker 5: and they don't know what each others are doing. So
Speaker 5: it's all that intel gathering operation. And it's like, that's
Speaker 5: the narrative that you come back from that story with.
Speaker 5: Is it disinformation so that you belie leave that and
Speaker 5: expand your cosmology. Well, if I were the Delmonic agenda,
Speaker 5: if I were working for them, this is exactly the
Speaker 5: type of thing I would do. So I like to
Speaker 5: think if this is what's happening in your my lapsed memories,
Speaker 5: it's narrative creation. I I don't think they are probably legitimate.
Speaker 5: And it's also a huge, huge, bad return on investment
Speaker 5: for them to abduct people with portal technology. Into their
Speaker 5: rooms and physically take them there and then do all
Speaker 5: these things to them these undergund bases and risk getting
Speaker 5: caught just for the worst intelligence gathering operation of all time.
Speaker 1: Probably you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just when they can more easily just in
Speaker 5: plant false memories. Uh so I think that is what's
Speaker 5: going on. It's timeline war pre programming as well, which
Speaker 5: is very important to the coming narrative. Uh yeah, man,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's it's kooky stuff I got. Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: and and and I'm I think I'm the only one
Speaker 5: saying this stuff to this degree. I haven't heard anybody
Speaker 5: else share it. So I tried to use parts one
Speaker 5: and two. It was like bedrock framework for this stuff.
Speaker 5: And I hope it makes sense, but I know it
Speaker 5: gets very elaborate and all over the place, and I
Speaker 5: talk fast, but got.
Speaker 1: To get a lot out there.
Speaker 5: I'm on the last subject matter here, which is uh
Speaker 5: I've had updates from since then. This is something not
Speaker 5: in my book, which I wish I had it in
Speaker 5: because it's interesting.
Speaker 1: But I'll share.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I should name drop. I already
Speaker 5: have a couple of times, but I won't today I
Speaker 5: got in an email chain not too long ago with
Speaker 5: one of my heroes.
Speaker 2: You give me an exclusive and then deny me.
Speaker 5: I've already said it. I just I'm not talking crap
Speaker 5: at all. I'm just kind of politely disagreeing. I guess
Speaker 5: I'll say it's no big deal.
Speaker 1: I'll do it.
Speaker 5: I just I'm in touch with one of these people,
Speaker 5: so already they're they're friends. Were her homies now so
Speaker 5: Emma Catherine the Imagination Podcast, you know, host great girl
Speaker 5: angel sent from God. I love her to death. I've
Speaker 5: watched a lot of her stuff to learn about SRI
Speaker 5: and MKU stuff. She has this the biggest compilation of
Speaker 5: testimonies out there, and she's doing great work now. I
Speaker 5: reached out to her a couple weeks back because I
Speaker 5: wanted to come on her show. And I know she
Speaker 5: doesn't really have many people on just to talk about
Speaker 5: theories and ideas, but she has before, and I thought
Speaker 5: it's worth of the shot because this concept is very important,
Speaker 5: and I wasn't sure how aware she was of it.
Speaker 5: So I do a little rant my email, and even
Speaker 5: if she doesn't want to have me on, I just
Speaker 5: wanted to talk to her and just be like, hey,
Speaker 5: do you understand this stuff? Like it's kind of important
Speaker 5: for because you're part of the you know, healing of
Speaker 5: these people who are dealing with these memories of SSP
Speaker 5: and you know crazy stuff. Not all of them, but
Speaker 5: a lot of them are MK Ultra right and Sriwus.
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying those are fake at all. I'm
Speaker 5: just saying they open you up to fake memory downloads.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a mixture.
Speaker 5: So I offered the idea of demons downloading fake memories,
Speaker 5: and I think that the SSP stuff is, and the
Speaker 5: my labs is and obviously reincarnation memories and so on.
Speaker 5: And I was like, do you believe in You don't
Speaker 5: believe in those memories?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like you're a Christian? And I was.
Speaker 5: I was asking what she thought, and she got offended
Speaker 5: and kind of went off on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect her. She has good intentions here, but
Speaker 1: she kind of.
Speaker 2: Want to own way to communicate.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I try to be detailed and I was, but
Speaker 5: it's still it's not ideal.
Speaker 1: So I I very polite conversation.
Speaker 5: Just she was upset by my accusations and she says, no,
Speaker 5: it is impossible for demons to implant false memories that
Speaker 5: does not happen.
Speaker 1: And she's a Christian.
Speaker 5: I don't know if she's an expansive type Christian who
Speaker 5: believes a lot of the crazier stuff, but I think
Speaker 5: she's more grounded. But she's a good person. And she
Speaker 5: said that's impossible, and I said, well, it's actually pretty
Speaker 5: much verifiable in the framework of my you know, first
Speaker 5: two three parts. I asked her to please watch them
Speaker 5: and open her be open minded about it, and reach
Speaker 5: out to me if she's interested.
Speaker 1: But she was like, oh, I've been fighting against these.
Speaker 5: Foundations who literally their whole thing is memory and implantation
Speaker 5: or fake memories or crazy people explains all this, and
Speaker 5: she says she's been fighting them for years. And I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's all fake. I'm because those people
Speaker 5: people are saying the abuse is fake and the SRA
Speaker 5: is fake and that's not real, and I'm not doing that.
Speaker 5: I'm saying that opens you up to these and I'm
Speaker 5: not saying they never gave you a torture's fake memory
Speaker 5: of abuse that was, you know, obviously not true. I'm
Speaker 5: sure they have. Does that account for most of this? No,
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I think they if it serves
Speaker 5: their purposes. So I asked if she studied reincarnation lore,
Speaker 5: because if she believes those memories are real, then she
Speaker 5: has to believe reincarnation memories are probably real, which instantly
Speaker 5: devaluates her faith kind of. And I was, just like,
Speaker 5: you can implant these memories, and in regression, people access
Speaker 5: other people's memories all the time.
Speaker 1: Just look at the research I've done.
Speaker 5: And she said she would, but I don't think she
Speaker 5: did because I haven't got heard back from her. And
Speaker 5: I asked her if she thought SSP, Water Kingdom, moon trips,
Speaker 5: all that stuff was real, and she said, no, I
Speaker 5: don't think it's all real. I don't know which part
Speaker 5: specifically she's referring to, but it insinuated.
Speaker 1: Quite a bit of it.
Speaker 5: And she said, no, there's another explanation that accounts for
Speaker 5: all this, and I said.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 5: And her explanation for all these memories not reincarnation, because
Speaker 5: she doesn't have any research there, she said, but for
Speaker 5: the SSP stuff was actors in projects black projects where
Speaker 5: they have actors, scripts, narratives, props, and so on, acting
Speaker 5: out scenes to give it to an experiencer who is
Speaker 5: drugged up her in some trance state. Uh, and then
Speaker 5: it just getting hit with all these situations, which by
Speaker 5: the way, doesn't make sense because they have full autonomy.
Speaker 1: And like one example is in the SSP Triggered.
Speaker 2: In my head. I just I hadn't read about this.
Speaker 2: It was it was in this Uh Robert Seffer Occult
Speaker 2: Secrets of real guy. I cannot remember his name, but
Speaker 2: he was more like the original uh, like mirror the
Speaker 2: the game the Assassin's Creed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now maybe a little bit. I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Assassins that lived up in the mountains and they call
Speaker 2: it the Eagle Nesk and that they were trying to
Speaker 2: find that golden apple. It was based off of this guy.
Speaker 2: He was a historical guy and he made a league
Speaker 2: of assassins and what he done, he done that and
Speaker 2: it's historically related. He made a pleasure garden, right, and
Speaker 2: it was like restricted off from the rest of the recruits,
Speaker 2: and he filled it full of beautiful virgins, every kind
Speaker 2: of exotic fruit tree you can think of. It was
Speaker 2: like Eden. And when he would bring people in initiates
Speaker 2: or whatever, and they'd go to try to sign up
Speaker 2: to be a part of this you know, assassin's creed.
Speaker 2: He would give them all kinds of opium and stuff
Speaker 2: and they would smoke it and take whatever drugs and
Speaker 2: get in this you know, lucid state or whatever. And
Speaker 2: then they would whisk them into this secret garden like Eden.
Speaker 2: And when they you know, kind of come to they're
Speaker 2: in this beautiful Eden garden and they have all these virgins.
Speaker 2: These women come in and they're feeding them grapes and
Speaker 2: pleasing them sexually, you know, and doing all these things
Speaker 2: for the nice. And then they had actors people that
Speaker 2: come in and acted like, you know, they were angels
Speaker 2: and stuff and.
Speaker 1: GiB Yeah, I've heard of stuff like those.
Speaker 2: And targets to assassinate and things like that. And then
Speaker 2: when they'd pass out, they'd whisk them out and bring
Speaker 2: them back to their room and be like, oh, what
Speaker 2: did you see in your vision? They're like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: I was in heaven and this angel told me to
Speaker 2: kill this person. Okay, then the gods have spoken to you,
Speaker 2: go do your task. And that was kind of Yeah.
Speaker 2: He manipulated people into doing the things that they wanted
Speaker 2: them to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to Yeah, that's a crazy story, and
Speaker 5: I've heard those stories, and I'm I want to be
Speaker 5: very clear, I'm not saying that's never happened and that
Speaker 5: doesn't happen at all. I'm saying, there's no way that
Speaker 5: can account for all of what's coming out here. It cannot,
Speaker 5: And we already know they can implant, you know, full
Speaker 5: download of memories with intuition alongside it, and put these
Speaker 5: people in autonomous experiences, let alone not autonomous memory downloads.
Speaker 5: That's already I think proven in my presentations here or whatever.
Speaker 5: If you disagree, but I make a good case for it.
Speaker 5: I think that accounts for the vast majority of this,
Speaker 5: especially the SSP stuff. One example is in Tony Rodrigue's
Speaker 5: book and testimony. He talks about being on Mars on
Speaker 5: a space station and getting attacked by these giant bug
Speaker 5: like insects that cut his arm off and slashed it off,
Speaker 5: and then he turned hits it and stops the bleeding
Speaker 5: enough to survive, and you know, his team is either
Speaker 5: separated or killed or something, and he's crawling back to
Speaker 5: his base for like many miles, crawling on his knees
Speaker 5: and or something, and he gets an arm regenerated for him,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, that requires being alone and a lot
Speaker 5: of autonomy and a lot of pain, because he says
Speaker 5: it felt real blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But now, Emma Catherine, she says that they give you
Speaker 5: these scenarios in these scenes, but whenever you remember them,
Speaker 5: your mind will recreate it in a way that makes
Speaker 5: sense and form it into a more cohesive way, which
Speaker 5: I I get a little bit. But and this is now,
Speaker 5: this is where it gets funny though, because I said, Okay, well,
Speaker 5: is that coming from exclusively memories of victims? Is this
Speaker 5: story coming from that? Or is this also coming from
Speaker 5: whistleblowers who said they were involved with these types of
Speaker 5: operations in black projects? I said, because every black project
Speaker 5: seems to have somebody sticking out saying their name, saying
Speaker 5: I was involved with these. But with how big this
Speaker 5: operation would have to be, for this many people to
Speaker 5: experience this many things, it would have to be a huge,
Speaker 5: huge operation, And I can't find And she didn't, she
Speaker 5: didn't even answer that question, really, And I couldn't find anybody.
Speaker 5: I researched for days on it, and I couldn't find
Speaker 5: anybody saying this that they worked for these programs it
Speaker 5: was an actor or part of the script or whatever.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm not saying no one's ever done it,
Speaker 5: just not to account for all of these cases. The
Speaker 5: SSP law specifically, I don't think is at all from actors.
Speaker 5: It just doesn't make any sense when they can already
Speaker 5: download false memories, why would they waste time with such
Speaker 5: a high high operation, with a bunch of money and
Speaker 5: time and required, Well, you can just download it to
Speaker 5: someone who's open, who doesn't covered in the Blood of
Speaker 5: Christ like. It's much more easy and accomplishes it much
Speaker 5: more cleanly. And I said to her, I said, okay.
Speaker 1: Well, have you heard of Vicky joy Anderson?
Speaker 5: And I talked about this in the first episode, but
Speaker 5: I want to remind people because it's important. Here I
Speaker 5: talk about well, she talks about the fabricated room and
Speaker 5: how sleep paralysis she believes is just your astral body
Speaker 5: being frozen and not your physical body, and they just
Speaker 5: make a room to look like your real room. But
Speaker 5: we know it's not real because after enough case studies
Speaker 5: there's so many discrepancies in the room being slightly off
Speaker 5: in detail that it can't be their real room. She
Speaker 5: decides that based on testing me and talking to people
Speaker 5: in her own hundreds of experiences, that sleep paralysis is
Speaker 5: just the manestations you see are seeing a dreamlike state,
Speaker 5: but it feels real because they can make it feel real,
Speaker 5: like I've said, and they do this to plant disinformation,
Speaker 5: such as I don't know if she talks about this,
Speaker 5: but I do a story where multiple people have said
Speaker 5: they've seen gray aliens show up during their sleep paralysis
Speaker 5: encounters and not shadow people. But they'll see a gray
Speaker 5: alien and it'll look surprised, like, oh.
Speaker 1: No, you caught me.
Speaker 5: You're not supposed to see me like, It'll look like
Speaker 5: very surprised that you see them, and then it'll press
Speaker 5: a button, a technological button on its belt, and it
Speaker 5: will instantly shape shift into a shadow person. So, if
Speaker 5: this is a controlled simulation where it's not actually an
Speaker 5: alien in Midge, what message are they trying to convey
Speaker 5: They're trying to convey, Oh, the spiritual phenomenon.
Speaker 1: I've been harassed in my whole life.
Speaker 5: It's actually just aliens coming here in my room to
Speaker 5: scare me, which, by the way, is a huge, huge,
Speaker 5: bad return on investment there for how much work that
Speaker 5: would take for all the shadow people encounters, which there's
Speaker 5: oh my god, like millions of these, a huge amount
Speaker 5: of work to put in for very little return on investment.
Speaker 5: But if it's not and it's a simulation, that's planting
Speaker 5: to the idea that the phenomena is more technological or
Speaker 5: more physical, more alien based, more literal alien based than
Speaker 5: we've been told by other people, and it just it's
Speaker 5: a it's a form of planting disinformation in these fake memories,
Speaker 5: just like the my lab stuff.
Speaker 1: It's the same concept.
Speaker 5: It's elaborate, and people can't ever fathom this stuff unless
Speaker 5: they're being you know, shared it to it in a presentation,
Speaker 5: and even then it's hard to understand. But there's a
Speaker 5: pattern of this. And I said this to her, I said,
Speaker 5: have you heard of that story?
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this? Does this make sense to you?
Speaker 5: If they can do this, then why can't they plant
Speaker 5: memories in people questioning their secret space program memories who
Speaker 5: maybe think, oh, I don't know if this is real.
Speaker 5: And in those people, they might just plant a memory
Speaker 5: of them waking up in a drug state in a
Speaker 5: in a big studio with props and actors everywhere, and
Speaker 5: then it'll end and they'll go, oh, that explains all
Speaker 5: my crazy memories that I didn't really truly believe in.
Speaker 5: And the people who do believe in it, they never
Speaker 5: get those memories because they're catering to their individuals.
Speaker 1: So I so.
Speaker 5: Apparently all these script you know, actor props memories, Hollywood studios,
Speaker 5: comes from people remembering them in recovered memories. So if
Speaker 5: those are planted, that is disinformation planted in these to
Speaker 5: bring you to that conclusion, so that it voids you
Speaker 5: from coming to the vision control download concept, which, by
Speaker 5: the way, they have to cover up because it's their
Speaker 5: biggest weapon of control. And I'm trying to focus on
Speaker 5: that heavily because that is their biggest weapon of deception
Speaker 5: and they have to make sure you don't find out.
Speaker 5: So they're planting all these seeds everywhere to diverge you
Speaker 5: from that conclusion. I hope I'm making sense. I think
Speaker 5: I covered all of that. I just think it could
Speaker 5: be much more easy to heal from these things that
Speaker 5: people knew they were totally fake. And I talked a
Speaker 5: Gray Area monarch about it, and he's a homie and
Speaker 5: he you know, works with her. I think they're married
Speaker 5: or something. But you know, the great people power couple.
Speaker 5: But and he he said he believes me and he
Speaker 5: is on my side. And he says, more people know
Speaker 5: about this in the underground of it than you think.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, really, I thought I've never heard anybody
Speaker 5: talk about it in interviews, so I thought I was
Speaker 5: the first one to talk about it detail.
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, they don't know all the details.
Speaker 5: You do, maybe, but he says, some people know they
Speaker 5: can fabricate full experiences and fake memories. And he's totally
Speaker 5: about it. And I'm like, well, talk to your wife, bro,
Speaker 5: like he get on the sage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're angels. I love them.
Speaker 5: They're just you know, she's a bit off the off
Speaker 5: the mark there, and it's it's so elaborate. I don't
Speaker 5: blame her at all for, you know, falling for that
Speaker 5: disinformation tactic, if that's what it truly is. So but
Speaker 5: you know, I hope she doesn't hate me. But you know,
Speaker 5: he's he's a friend now.
Speaker 2: So husband to go into a straight he's old lady
Speaker 2: out and just be.
Speaker 1: Like a you know, yeah, man.
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to I'm trying to get the word
Speaker 5: out because this is I think we'll do a lot
Speaker 5: of good for the you know, healing type communities. Who
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's going to be immediately fixed by
Speaker 5: knowing it's fake, but because they feel so real.
Speaker 1: You know. But it will go a long way. I think.
Speaker 5: I think it'll go a very long way. So that's
Speaker 5: I think that's the end of my part three. There's
Speaker 5: more in my books, so please buy the book if
Speaker 5: you h you want to learn the dirty details that
Speaker 5: I could not get to today.
Speaker 2: Nice man, I really appreciate you coming on and hanging
Speaker 2: out with me again. I always, uh, I love every
Speaker 2: time because I mean it every time. Man, I of
Speaker 2: hanging out with you and talking with you. You're well researched, dude.
Speaker 2: We're into the same subjects and you're funny. That's something
Speaker 2: that's really lacking in this sphere.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Told quite often that I'll be too silly sometimes and
Speaker 2: then they can't take you seriously.
Speaker 5: I'm like, we got to bring the silly people into.
Speaker 1: The fold, man, so serious.
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Speaker 2: Thank you all right, man, brother, thank you so much. Hey, guys,
Speaker 2: you enjoyed it. Be sure check out this stuff. You've
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