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Speaker 3: All right, I remember before coming up here on a
Speaker 3: Tuesday night. I'm very happy with tonight's show. I want
Speaker 3: you to know I don't say that all the time,
Speaker 3: but I think that. My last guest, uh, Lou Ferrante. Again,
Speaker 3: the book is just you know, if you're interested in
Speaker 3: you organized crime and all of that, it is a
Speaker 3: real must read. It's a trilogy. There's one called Rise
Speaker 3: of the Empire, Rise of Empire, borgata is the uh
Speaker 3: uh is is one of the words, but Rise of Empire,
Speaker 3: and then this was Clash of the Titans, a history
Speaker 3: of the American mafia, and the other is Autumn of Empire.
Speaker 3: So if you're into interested and again, Lou Ferranti is
Speaker 3: a fabulous guest. And uh, he's just somebody who knows
Speaker 3: what he's talking about, which is which is an important
Speaker 3: thing to be a guest on this program. I want
Speaker 3: to thank John Featherstone. During the nine o'clock hour, we
Speaker 3: had a long and a very interesting conversation about abuses
Speaker 3: that have gone on in the Massachusetts shelter system. And
Speaker 3: I think the Governor's office, Governor Heally's going to have
Speaker 3: a lot of explaining to do about this what she
Speaker 3: knew when she knew it. And if you read both
Speaker 3: the Globe and the Herald this morning tomorrow morning, I
Speaker 3: think you'll see a lot more information about a report
Speaker 3: that the State Republican Party has been able to bring
Speaker 3: to the light of public a public day. Put it
Speaker 3: like that, bring it to the light of day. Now
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Donald Trump. Look, today is
Speaker 3: the seventh of January, and two weeks from now, Donald
Speaker 3: Trump will be president of these United States. His election
Speaker 3: was certified yesterday. We talked about that last night. I
Speaker 3: was kind of surprised so many people didn't pick up
Speaker 3: on what I was trying to say last night. But
Speaker 3: that's okay. I think that we will hopefully always look back.
Speaker 3: And however you felt about the twenty twenty election that
Speaker 3: what happened on January sixth in twenty twenty one is
Speaker 3: an anomaly that should never be repeated in this country
Speaker 3: again in my opinion, but we'll push that aside. Today
Speaker 3: President Trump held something of a news conference in his
Speaker 3: own style, and of course his style is to talk
Speaker 3: quite a bit in sort of a statement, opening statement,
Speaker 3: or whatever you want to call it. The Boston Globe
Speaker 3: has already posted an interesting article written by Kendall Wright,
Speaker 3: from wales and windmills in Massachusetts to the Next Thing
Speaker 3: to Panama Canal. Five takeaways from Trump's press conference. Obviously,
Speaker 3: we will say President elect Trump. So we have a
Speaker 3: little bit of what the President had to say today,
Speaker 3: and I'd like to focus because I think that there's
Speaker 3: some substance in what he's talking about, whether you agree
Speaker 3: or disagree, certainly the whales and the windmills situation. He
Speaker 3: says that he will stop windmills. At the same time,
Speaker 3: Joe Biden is attempting to stop literally all offshore drilling
Speaker 3: around anywhere around the United States. But let us start
Speaker 3: with the first of three bites from the president because
Speaker 3: each of these bites, these sound bites have some interesting
Speaker 3: some interest in The first one is about a minute long,
Speaker 3: and he talks about Greenland and the Panama Canal. He's
Speaker 3: questioned by a reporter and it's interesting. I mean, he
Speaker 3: takes the question and he responds to the question, which
Speaker 3: I think, whether you like Donald Trump or not, is
Speaker 3: going to be a little different from what we've dealt
Speaker 3: with in the last four years. This is cut number eighteen,
Speaker 3: Rob Can you assure.
Speaker 4: The world that as you try to get control of
Speaker 4: these areas, you are not going to use military or
Speaker 4: economic coercion?
Speaker 1: No, can you tell us a little bit about what
Speaker 1: your plan is. Are you going to negotiate a new treaty?
Speaker 5: Are you going to ask the Canadians to hold the vote?
Speaker 3: What does the strategy?
Speaker 4: I can't assure you. You're talking about Panama and Greenland. No,
Speaker 4: I can't assure you on either of those two. But
Speaker 4: I can say this, we need them for economic security.
Speaker 4: The Panama Canal was built for a military I'm not
Speaker 4: going to commit to that now.
Speaker 3: It might be that you'll have to do something.
Speaker 4: Look, the Panama Canal is vital to our country. It's
Speaker 4: being operated by China. China, and we gave the Panama
Speaker 4: Canal to Panama. We didn't give it to China, and
Speaker 4: they've abused it. They've abused that gift that should have
Speaker 4: never been made. By the way, giving the Panama Canal
Speaker 4: is why Jimmy Carter lost the election. In my opinion,
Speaker 4: more so maybe than the hostages.
Speaker 3: I don't think we ever should have given away the
Speaker 3: Panama Canal, and I still don't understand why it happened.
Speaker 3: It is a very important access point between the Atlantic
Speaker 3: and the Pacific Ocean. Now the globe, as is their right.
Speaker 3: They pointed out that it's run The Panama Canal is
Speaker 3: run by two companies. A Hong Kong company manages two
Speaker 3: ports at the canal entrance. But any subsidiary of a
Speaker 3: Hong Kong company is not functioning without some oversight from
Speaker 3: the Chinese government. And China has made a lot of
Speaker 3: military footprints in certain parts of South and Central America,
Speaker 3: and that is something that I think Trump it would
Speaker 3: be it would be a good thing for us to
Speaker 3: regain control of the Panama Canal. And as the President
Speaker 3: X says, we built it, not you and me, but
Speaker 3: our ancestors built it, and at great cost financially and
Speaker 3: also the cost of deaths, thousands of deaths from malaria.
Speaker 3: So that's Donald Trump of the Panama Canal. He's a
Speaker 3: little bit more on the Panama Canal, and I'd love
Speaker 3: to know if you agree or disagree with him. I
Speaker 3: don't think Panama remember remember Noriega. Noriega was the dictator
Speaker 3: in Panama that after we had given the canal. George
Speaker 3: Bush administration was in charge of taking him out, and
Speaker 3: he eventually stood trial in Miami for all sorts of
Speaker 3: criminal charges. This is Donald Trump cut eighteen A.
Speaker 4: Please rob talking about Panama and Greenland. No, I can't
Speaker 4: assure you on either of those two, but I can
Speaker 4: say this, we need them for economic security. The Panama
Speaker 4: Canal was built for a military I'm not going to
Speaker 4: commit to that now. It might be that he'll have
Speaker 4: to do something. Look, the Panama Canal is vital to
Speaker 4: our country. It's being operated by China. China, and we
Speaker 4: gave the Panama Canal to Panama. We didn't give it
Speaker 4: to China, and they've abused it. They've abused that gift
Speaker 4: that should have never been made. By the way, giving
Speaker 4: the Panama Canal is why Jimmy Carter lost the election,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, more so maybe than the hostages.
Speaker 3: So again, I think you're going to hear a lot
Speaker 3: about that. And by the way, Manuel Noriega, who died
Speaker 3: in two thou and seventeen, lived a pretty long life.
Speaker 3: He was in prison when he died. He ran Panama
Speaker 3: from nineteen eighty three to nineteen eighty nine, and he
Speaker 3: had an interesting relationship with members of the US Intelligence
Speaker 3: Services beginning way back in the nineteen fifties, and was
Speaker 3: at a point in time according to information I'm looking
Speaker 3: at here an intelligence source for the Central Intelligence Agency.
Speaker 3: But things turned and he eventually was was taken out
Speaker 3: of power by it was the Bush administration, and then
Speaker 3: he eventually was tried and convicted of drugging weapons charges
Speaker 3: here in the United States. And if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 3: I believe he died in jail. So pretty tough end
Speaker 3: to a life that was it's interesting, to say the least, okay.
Speaker 3: And then the other comment that the President Trump of
Speaker 3: President elect Trump made today was again his demand, I
Speaker 3: guess would be the best way to describe it, his
Speaker 3: demand that the Gaza, the hostages and Gaza Gaza be released.
Speaker 3: This is cut nineteen.
Speaker 4: All hell will break out if those hostages aren't back.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt your negotiation.
Speaker 4: If they're not back by the time I get into office,
Speaker 4: all hell will break out in the Middle East, and
Speaker 4: it will not be good for Hamas and it will
Speaker 4: not be good, frankly, for anyone. All hell will break out.
Speaker 4: I don't have to say anymore, but that's what it is.
Speaker 4: And they should have given them back a long time.
Speaker 4: They should have never taken them. They should have never
Speaker 4: been the attack of October seventh. People forget that, but
Speaker 4: there was, and many people are killed. They're no longer hostages.
Speaker 3: So that's one that I think as of January twenty first,
Speaker 3: two weeks from today, if those hostages are still being
Speaker 3: held captive in Gaza, I think there'll be a lot
Speaker 3: of questions that will be asked of the then president
Speaker 3: currently the president elect. By the way, just a quick
Speaker 3: clarification on Noriega. Noriega was in prison self of a
Speaker 3: brain hemorrhage during surgery, and he had been under house arrest,
Speaker 3: and he died in two thousand and seven at the
Speaker 3: age of eighty three. So I think let's get the
Speaker 3: Panama Canal back. I think that there's ways in which
Speaker 3: that could be negotiated. Now Greenland, I don't understand that one,
Speaker 3: but maybe some of you do. So let's look ahead.
Speaker 3: Later on this week, we will certainly on Thursday, be
Speaker 3: talking about Jimmy Carter, President Carter. That will be a
Speaker 3: national day of morning on Thursday, as I'm sure you know,
Speaker 3: and we will also have as a guest on that
Speaker 3: night at nine o'clock Harvey Silverglade to talk about how
Speaker 3: much surveillance our country should be able to do on
Speaker 3: ISIS related sites. We talked about that a week ago
Speaker 3: and someone had said that love to know what Harvey
Speaker 3: Silverglade thought. And we will hear from Harvey Silverglade at
Speaker 3: nine o'clock on that issue on Thursday night, and then
Speaker 3: probably on Thursday night spend a lot of the time
Speaker 3: later on talking about the life and times of Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 3: If you like to talk about President elect Trump, and
Speaker 3: I want to know what do you think about Panama.
Speaker 3: I say, let's take Panama back, Let's try to do
Speaker 3: it through negotiations. But I think that we have a
Speaker 3: manifested destiny, a Moro doctorate here that exists in America,
Speaker 3: and Panama certainly falls under that, and I think that
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is aware of that. I think also the
Speaker 3: idea year of purchasing Greenland or working having access in Greenland. Also,
Speaker 3: I think that there's sort of a manifest destiny concept
Speaker 3: of that it is in our hemisphere and the northern
Speaker 3: hemisphere Canada. I don't think that Canada's Canada will become
Speaker 3: the fifty first state, but I do think that there's
Speaker 3: a way in which we can have a US Canadian
Speaker 3: alliance more formal, perhaps even closer in terms of both
Speaker 3: economic and military. So I think there are ways in
Speaker 3: which Donald Trump in his four years second term, that
Speaker 3: he can be proactive on international issues. And who knows,
Speaker 3: he may He may surprise some people pleasantly, or he
Speaker 3: may fall back into his pattern in practice of his
Speaker 3: first term and alienate people. It's interesting today I guess
Speaker 3: that Meta has decided to take down the concept of
Speaker 3: fact checkers after Mark Zuckerberg met with President elect Trump.
Speaker 3: A lot of the high tech billionaires are contributing substantial
Speaker 3: sums to the inauguration. I think Donald Trump is arriving
Speaker 3: in Washington with to a much warmer reception than he
Speaker 3: received eight years ago in twenty seventeen. So we're going
Speaker 3: to talk about President Electrump, what he wants to accomplish.
Speaker 3: Are you concerned? Are you optimistic? Two weeks from right now,
Speaker 3: Donald Trump will be the forty seventh president of the
Speaker 3: United States. We'll get to phone calls right after the
Speaker 3: break six seven, two, five, four ten thirty one line
Speaker 3: there six seven ninth free, one ten thirty always looking
Speaker 3: to hear from folks locally, but also we invite you
Speaker 3: to call if you're listening far away, love to know
Speaker 3: what the feeling is in your part of the country
Speaker 3: as we approach the inauguration of the forty seventh President
Speaker 3: of the United States. Coming back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the Phone's gonna go to
Speaker 3: Glenn and Brighton. First up, Glenn, welcome, you were first
Speaker 3: this our Nightside. Glenna, run ahead.
Speaker 5: You're happy New Year.
Speaker 3: By the way, Happy New Year to you as well.
Speaker 5: Thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: As a Trump supporter, I'm with him on one issue
Speaker 5: and against him on the other. I'm with him on
Speaker 5: Panama totally. In fact, I didn't know I owed Joanne
Speaker 5: from walking him an apology. I didn't know he gave away.
Speaker 5: I remember Steve Velli. She told him he's Jimmy's not liberal,
Speaker 5: He's just lame. And then I got mad and said,
Speaker 5: you're leaving for Colin Carter Lane. But now I didn't know.
Speaker 5: I must have missed that.
Speaker 3: I didn't know President Carter decided to give control of
Speaker 3: the Panama Canal to the Panamanian government, and I don't
Speaker 3: think there was much that we received in return for it.
Speaker 3: And it might have been that was a period of
Speaker 3: time when post Vietnam and we were kind of pulling
Speaker 3: our horns in from around the world. There was a
Speaker 3: time in which we were looking very much inward in
Speaker 3: this country. And that I heard we only got a dollar.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true or not. But well,
Speaker 3: as I say, gave it away, so we got a dollar.
Speaker 3: So so you're in favor of Panama. But what about
Speaker 3: if Denmark wants to sell us Greenland.
Speaker 5: The problem I have with that is, and I know
Speaker 5: why he wants to sell it. They sell it. I mean,
Speaker 5: I know why Trump wants it because he's afraid that
Speaker 5: China might get it or Russia might get it. The
Speaker 5: problem is with our deficit, with our debt. I hate
Speaker 5: to say that I'm more isolationist than Trump right now.
Speaker 5: We need Greenland like a whole in the head. We
Speaker 5: can't take care of our home with veterans, you know
Speaker 5: we can't.
Speaker 3: I mean, my god, Well, I do think you have
Speaker 3: to look at if that opportunity presented itself. I think
Speaker 3: you got to look at that and say, okay, would
Speaker 3: that be in our best interest? RUC. Remember when Secretary
Speaker 3: of State Seward bought Alaska. I'm sure in that days
Speaker 3: the people say, oh, it was called Seward's folly. Remember,
Speaker 3: I know you weren't alied back then. But no, eighteen
Speaker 3: sixty seven, the investment in Alaska turned out pretty well,
Speaker 3: that's true.
Speaker 5: No, it might it's it's I mean, it's a gamble.
Speaker 5: It might work. No, fine, I mean then, I mean
Speaker 5: Greenlay is not known for MS thirteen and crimes, and
Speaker 5: well it only has about I.
Speaker 3: Think I read something tonight and early is about fifty
Speaker 3: six thousand. I think it was a sparsely settled country.
Speaker 3: There's no tubt about that. Sparsely say.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I and I like his idea of calling
Speaker 5: New Mexico is in America.
Speaker 3: He's talking about talking about the Gulf of Mexico called
Speaker 3: the Golf of America.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Golf of Mexico.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do that. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a you know, map makers or
Speaker 3: whomever decides when something's named. I guess we could start
Speaker 3: to call anything we wanted to call it. But I
Speaker 3: don't know if if even a bill passing Congress signed
Speaker 3: by the President would be recognized by I don't know,
Speaker 3: that's it I have. If anybody knows the answer to
Speaker 3: that question. I'm kind of curious about that. I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, Brian, appreciate it, Benn Glenn.
Speaker 5: What am I saying, Brian?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I was just reading. I just looked
Speaker 3: here that a young guy who pitched to the Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 3: Apparently he was pronounced dead today. He's only thirty seven
Speaker 3: years old. I mean, Brian Mattoose. I remember him as
Speaker 3: a left handed pitcher for the Orioles, and it just
Speaker 3: came across the wires. You know baseball, Well, I do
Speaker 3: know baseball, and I remember Matoose. He's very effective left
Speaker 3: handed pitcher, you know, not you know, a Hall of
Speaker 3: Famer by any stretch of the imagination, had some good
Speaker 3: seasons with the Orioles.
Speaker 5: You know. One more quick thing. I hope we do
Speaker 5: listed this year. I know it's not you know, we
Speaker 5: didn't do it last year.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know. We're still working trying to
Speaker 3: do something with the Winnkers. Okay, keep that in mind,
Speaker 3: all right, all right, talk to you lady. Thanks, Thanks Glenn.
Speaker 3: Thanks all right, let me go to Gary Wuober and
Speaker 3: Gary next on nights. I go right ahead, I'll.
Speaker 6: Make it fast and I'll try to stay on subject. Shake,
Speaker 6: rattle and roll. That's what Trump is all about now
Speaker 6: that he's president and so forth. I'm sure you're impressed
Speaker 6: with everything he's doing, Dan, because I mean, I remember
Speaker 6: you and sun No talking like Gray and nobody ever
Speaker 6: even talking about tariffs. What do you think about him
Speaker 6: just attacking the tariffs?
Speaker 3: What do I think about Trump attacking the tariffs?
Speaker 6: She said, yeah, yeah, being aggressive to make sure the
Speaker 6: United States makes money.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, the economists argue about that all the time.
Speaker 3: By the way, Dons soon that I'm going to believe
Speaker 3: that everything that Donald Trump does it's a good idea.
Speaker 3: I want to give him a chance to be successful
Speaker 3: as a president. Okay, And I still very much admire
Speaker 3: Chris Sanunu, who's a great guy. Was a great governor.
Speaker 3: I think was the best governor in the country. So
Speaker 3: you're never going to going to talk me off my
Speaker 3: admiration of my friendship for Kris Sanunu. But but when
Speaker 3: whatever Donald Trump does wants to try to do, we'll
Speaker 3: look at it. I mean, I don't think we're going
Speaker 3: to invade Greenland. I don't even think we're necessarily going
Speaker 3: to invade Panama. I think that we have the ability
Speaker 3: economic to say that Panama, look, we gave you this
Speaker 3: for a dollar, and there's a new sheriff in town,
Speaker 3: there's a new administration in town. We want control of
Speaker 3: the Panama Canal back. You can still, We're not going
Speaker 3: to bankrupt the country down there, but we want to
Speaker 3: make sure that we control access to the Panama Canal
Speaker 3: and not companies that are owned by by China or
Speaker 3: that that are licensed by China.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we eric, you know.
Speaker 3: So that's all I'm saying. Let's se let's see how
Speaker 3: he does. I hope he's successful, because if he's successful,
Speaker 3: it's going to be good for you, good for me,
Speaker 3: good for our families, good for everyone, simple as that.
Speaker 3: I hope that Joe Biden would have been successful. He
Speaker 3: was not.
Speaker 6: He was not now as we know, he was a
Speaker 6: pushover for a president. And let me just make these
Speaker 6: two comments and then I'll go when you said about
Speaker 6: comments and so on, I just want to defend you
Speaker 6: right now. I am all sup port of about Trump,
Speaker 6: but he's also a stumbag when he puts down the
Speaker 6: new as a governor of New Hampshion. Remember he says
Speaker 6: he's doing a bad job. He said that, You remember that, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: very good. Last point two years ago or in the
Speaker 6: last couple of years, Trudeau was putting him down, and
Speaker 6: next thing you know, he's how did they tessel two
Speaker 6: weeks ago? And now he resigned?
Speaker 5: What do you think of that? Dan?
Speaker 3: I'm delighted to see Justin Trudeau resigned because I hope
Speaker 3: that the Conservatives in Canada can elect a new prime minister.
Speaker 3: I guess the parliament up there has been recessed or
Speaker 3: put in limbo until sometime in March. He has yet
Speaker 3: to resign his prime minister. He's resigned as the head
Speaker 3: of the Liberal Party in Canada. But I think that
Speaker 3: his reign in Canada, his time in Canada has kind
Speaker 3: of been coincidental with Joe Biden's, and I think they
Speaker 3: had both failures. I wish there was another Brian mulrooney
Speaker 3: in Canada who would step forward, who was a great
Speaker 3: prime minister and who worked very well with Ronald Reagan
Speaker 3: a with George Bush. We need presidents and prime ministers
Speaker 3: to be on the same page. And if we get
Speaker 3: a conservative prime minister in Canada who's willing to work
Speaker 3: with Donald Trump, Canada will remain free and independent. It
Speaker 3: is a you know, it's it's really ruled by the
Speaker 3: King of England, as I'm sure you know. So it's
Speaker 3: not going to become the fifty first state. But economically,
Speaker 3: we can have agreements with Canada, which are you know,
Speaker 3: favorite nation trade status and all of that which can
Speaker 3: make Canada stronger and make us stronger. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of there's a lot that can be done. In my opinion,
Speaker 3: nothing would have worked between Trump and Trudeau. Simple is
Speaker 3: that the only.
Speaker 6: Thing that had in nuclear times. So we say that
Speaker 6: Happy days here again.
Speaker 3: No, that's a democratic theme song that was for Franklin Roosevelt.
Speaker 3: Because no, no, no, you cat you can you can.
Speaker 3: You can just sing the y MCA song and it'll
Speaker 3: be all said. Okay, thanks Gary, good night, all right,
Speaker 3: we'll keep rolling here. If you can take Gary off,
Speaker 3: that's great. We'll take a quick break here. It's eleven
Speaker 3: thirty two or a couple of minutes late for the news.
Speaker 3: Got one line that just failed. If you want to
Speaker 3: call in and talk about This is the first time
Speaker 3: we talked about President elect and Trump at what he's
Speaker 3: going to do, and he talked today about it. He
Speaker 3: chose the seventh of January, the day after the electors
Speaker 3: had confirmed to be president, and it did. It went.
Speaker 3: It went very well yesterday. And I've said before and
Speaker 3: I'll say it again, I congratulate Vice President Harris. I'm
Speaker 3: sure it was not one of her favorite moments, but
Speaker 3: she handled herself very well. And let us hope that
Speaker 3: forever more transitions of power in this country remain peaceful.
Speaker 3: We don't need to talk about that more tonight, but
Speaker 3: if you like to talk about what we're talking about
Speaker 3: tonight six, we'll get you through. Coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 2: You're on night Side.
Speaker 1: Radio.
Speaker 3: Okay. Back to the phones is go to Dot and Medford.
Speaker 3: Dot is a big fan of Donald Trump. Go ahead, Dot.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, listen, Dan. I'm just calling to wish you
Speaker 7: and your family a wonderful, happy, healthy New Year you Dot,
Speaker 7: as well as as one to Glenn to my favorite Klawa.
Speaker 7: I always like to listen to Glenn all right, he's
Speaker 7: a good guy. But anyway, did you ever take a
Speaker 7: cruise on the Panama Canal.
Speaker 3: Never have never have transgressed the Panama Canal.
Speaker 7: No, I did not have you. Yes, and you would
Speaker 7: enjoy it. You'd enjoy that. And the worst thing we
Speaker 7: ever did was give that up. We never should have
Speaker 7: given it up.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, how long did it take you
Speaker 3: to get across the Panama Canal? And how long is
Speaker 3: that is? That trip?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I mean I was having it. I
Speaker 7: wasn't paying too much attention at the time, but.
Speaker 3: You probably would have a libation.
Speaker 7: I was having a very good time. But also the
Speaker 7: captain of the ship actually turned the ship around in
Speaker 7: the canal to chase dolphins.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, how can you turn the ship down?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, you get in different areas of the canal.
Speaker 7: It's very wide, okay, you know it's it's not just
Speaker 7: a canal all the way through, So you get in
Speaker 7: areas where there's a lot of water. So he could
Speaker 7: turn to oh you should take that, you should do
Speaker 7: take a trip with the listeners. They would love it.
Speaker 3: Well, that's a thought, that's a thought. How long ago
Speaker 3: did you go through the Panama Canal?
Speaker 7: If I could ask, oh, oh it's been it's been
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five years. Anyway, that's okay, that's okay. But anyway,
Speaker 7: it was wonderful and I think I was thinking, I
Speaker 7: wonder if you ever did it.
Speaker 3: Nope, never did it. I've never been to pan although
Speaker 3: my godfather, who I never met, who had been a
Speaker 3: friend of my my father growing up, lived in Panama.
Speaker 3: Oh really my godfather and my godmother, who I never met,
Speaker 3: were my godparents.
Speaker 7: Wow. Wow, that's interesting by the time, and you got
Speaker 7: to put that in your bucket list. But you know,
Speaker 7: I totally agree with Trump about the Panama Canal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And I'm sure I've got a shirt I'm wearing on
Speaker 7: inauguration day. Whoa, it's cool.
Speaker 3: What does it say?
Speaker 8: You know what?
Speaker 7: Trump?
Speaker 5: Trump?
Speaker 7: A big Trump shirt. And I know a lot of
Speaker 7: my neighbors are going to go, yee.
Speaker 3: That's okay. You can celebrate. You can celebrate.
Speaker 7: I'm going to be celebrating. Hey, listen, I didn't think
Speaker 7: we were going to do it, but we did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, yeah, you were in about seventy seven million
Speaker 3: other people. Yeah, today that I think that he finally
Speaker 3: they figured out he got about seventy seven million votes.
Speaker 7: Yes, I made it. Was I was amazed myself.
Speaker 3: I was amazed by the way I'm looking at the
Speaker 3: Panama Canal here and you're right, oh yeah, it's it
Speaker 3: does have some area.
Speaker 8: Where it has well the areas.
Speaker 7: That's a lot of water. Yeah, what you get out
Speaker 7: of that canal? And have you ever taken that?
Speaker 3: How about this? It says the length of the shoreline
Speaker 3: of the Panama Canal is about forty miles. I didn't
Speaker 3: really realize that.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean it's a it's a
Speaker 7: great it's a great trip.
Speaker 3: And it says it says from the deep water in
Speaker 3: the Atlantic, which is the Caribbean Sea to deep water
Speaker 3: in the Pacific, it's about fifty miles.
Speaker 7: Whoa, oh hey, put it on your bucket list. But
Speaker 7: you know, another very interesting canal to travel on is
Speaker 7: the Erie Canal.
Speaker 3: Never been on that one either, Well, you got it.
Speaker 7: You go up these laws, you go walks and I
Speaker 7: went with Elda Hostel and uh we had two speakers
Speaker 7: a day. It was fabulous.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've been on cruises river cruises in Europe on
Speaker 3: the Rhine and on the Danube River where you have
Speaker 3: locks and you go along and.
Speaker 7: It's very interesting.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. The ship, so it gets locked and then
Speaker 3: it goes down, and then the water brings you back
Speaker 3: up and you continue on your way.
Speaker 7: It's great and that's how the Eerie Canal is. But
Speaker 7: also the Mississippi River. Have you ever taken a cruise?
Speaker 3: No? No, I've certainly seen the Mississippi River, but never
Speaker 3: had a cruise.
Speaker 7: My husband and I we went on every trip they
Speaker 7: gave all the way up to Minneapolis, and then we
Speaker 7: did the Ohio River, which was lovely. We enjoyed River Bowden.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have seen the Ohio River. It runs right
Speaker 3: by Louisville, Kentucky. So I can tell you that I've
Speaker 3: seen the Ohio River, but I've never been on the
Speaker 3: Ohio River. Dot. Thank you very much. Cruising cruising with
Speaker 3: Dot here.
Speaker 7: On nice with Dan.
Speaker 3: Now all right, thanks Doc, doctor you soon, good time
Speaker 3: you too?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Happy New Year. Let me go next to Joe and Lynn. Joe, welcome,
Speaker 3: next to Nisaca.
Speaker 8: Right ahead, Thank you Dan. I have to agree with Glenn.
Speaker 8: Glenn and Dot, I hope, I'm I know you like
Speaker 8: me as a caller. Can I take a double victory
Speaker 8: lap here?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 8: Before we get into the electoral votes, I said two
Speaker 8: hundred and eighty five. There were three over three hundred,
Speaker 8: and I hope I before late to meet. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: hope I get a WBC bag. And I'm so glodd No,
Speaker 8: we gave, we gave away.
Speaker 3: There was a guy that picked three point fifteen and
Speaker 3: that's that's who got the bang.
Speaker 8: Okay, yep, oh, well next time maybe if I'm still here.
Speaker 8: I agree with Glenn, uh, we should take the canal back,
Speaker 8: but we should stay out of Greenland unless we're gonna
Speaker 8: drill and stay out of Canada. There's too much duty
Speaker 8: and there's too many problems Greenland alone. If we want
Speaker 8: to help them, help them. But Trump doesn't need to
Speaker 8: start buying this and change in the Gulf of Mexico's name.
Speaker 8: Just leave things alone.
Speaker 3: I hope someone can tell me how. I mean. I'm
Speaker 3: assumed that there must be some sort of world Association
Speaker 3: of cartographers, which are map people, you know, how the
Speaker 3: name Gulf of Mexico is named. I kind of imagined
Speaker 3: that that there has to be some sort of I mean,
Speaker 3: it's called the Atlantic Ocean, I get it, but I
Speaker 3: never thought about, well, yeah, who named it the Atlantic Ocean?
Speaker 3: Who named it the Pacific Ocean? Is it going to
Speaker 3: be that name forever? Can then can it be changed?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have an answer to that.
Speaker 8: Maybe one of our listeners can call up and let
Speaker 8: us know.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping, Joe, you never know a lot of smart
Speaker 3: people out there tonight. Thank you for calling. You have
Speaker 3: a great new year, and I wish your good health
Speaker 3: for the balance.
Speaker 8: Where is Panama located? Panama can I where is Panama?
Speaker 1: Actually?
Speaker 3: Panama Canal is in Central America?
Speaker 8: Oh, Cent, that's where it is.
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta go, Jo, Thank you much, Talk to
Speaker 3: you soon. Have a great night. Six seven two, five,
Speaker 3: four ten thirty, triple eight nine to nine, ten thirty.
Speaker 3: There's one line at six one seven ninety three one
Speaker 3: ten thirty coming right back on nightside. And if someone
Speaker 3: has an answer for me, I'd really appreciate it. How
Speaker 3: are bodies of water such as the Gulf of Mexico,
Speaker 3: the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, the Mediterranean? Is there
Speaker 3: some official how do you change the name? Donald Trump
Speaker 3: says he wants to change the name of the Gulf
Speaker 3: of Mexico to the Gulf of America. Sounds like a
Speaker 3: great idea to me, But how do you do that.
Speaker 3: I don't. I kind of imagine just simple Act of
Speaker 3: Congress that the President signs it. We'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: Coming back on night Side.
Speaker 2: Now, back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 2: night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: Still trying to figure out who names bodies of water
Speaker 3: around the world. Okay, we got some pack lines. Get
Speaker 3: everybody in Paul and Plymouth, Paul next on Nightsig go ahead, sir, I.
Speaker 1: Get uh listen. I just wanted to kind of discuss
Speaker 1: Greenland for a minute. Sure, because in regards to our
Speaker 1: earlier guest you had there was discussing the Titanic. We
Speaker 1: all think that the Titanic sunk way up there Greenland,
Speaker 1: and so you know in the North Atlantic it was
Speaker 1: so cold, but it actually sunk south of Boston. It
Speaker 1: was about a thousand miles out off of the coast
Speaker 1: of Plymouth and the Boorn Line. Yeah. So anyways, I
Speaker 1: just want to, uh to tell you that. And the
Speaker 1: other thing is I think that you know, mister Trump, uh,
Speaker 1: he's just restating American keviedy in the Western Hemisphere in
Speaker 1: response to Vladimir Putin doing the same thing over in Russia.
Speaker 1: So I think it's good. It's you know, we need
Speaker 1: someone some strong leadership there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well it's gonna be a little different, that's
Speaker 3: for sure. By the way, Greenland I mentioned earlier, it
Speaker 3: has a it is one of the least densely populated
Speaker 3: regions in the world. It only has fifty six thousand people.
Speaker 3: That's less of a population than probably well Boston has
Speaker 3: more than that. But I don't know that. There's too
Speaker 3: many cities even in Massachusetts that have more than fifty
Speaker 3: six thousand. You know, that's that that's probably the size
Speaker 3: of I don't know. I'm guessing I want to say
Speaker 3: something like Strifield or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Turymouth is I think Tumous is pushing seventy thousands.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, then in that case, you're right Plymouth. Maybe
Speaker 3: we'll figure out Greenland's population is fifty six thousand. Let
Speaker 3: me see the popular I'll get the population of Plymouth,
Speaker 3: Massachusetts for you. What do you think it is how much.
Speaker 1: I'd say, I'd say it's probably pushing seventy thousand somewhere
Speaker 1: around this, but it might be in the high sixties.
Speaker 3: Let's see. Hopefully we come up here. Population town Plymouth, Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: sixty six thousand, five and thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Ding Ding Ding.
Speaker 3: You're a winner. You are a winner. And by the way,
Speaker 3: you have more people in Plymouth than they have in
Speaker 3: the entire country of the entire nation of Greenland Green
Speaker 3: How about that. We've come up with that, we've followed,
Speaker 3: we've taken care of that. That's a good one. Hey,
Speaker 3: thanks so much, Paul, thank you.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, Yeah, I think you might have to consult
Speaker 1: a man named Americo fast Beauty about renaming the Gulf
Speaker 1: of Mexico.
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I think he's dead, so we'll
Speaker 3: have to figure out some of his ancestors. Thanks Paul,
Speaker 3: of a great one.
Speaker 1: Goodness.
Speaker 3: Now let me go to my friend Pete in South Carolina. Pete,
Speaker 3: how are you tonight?
Speaker 1: I did am fine, Dan, Happy New Year to you.
Speaker 3: Right back at you, Happy new Year. I hope all
Speaker 3: is well for you in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: All is well, And I have three things and I'm
Speaker 1: going to do boom boom boom, because you know, I
Speaker 1: know you. I'm late ahead number one. Number one. I
Speaker 1: know you complain or people talk about Michelle lou And
Speaker 1: the only time I stood up and said, Bravo to her.
Speaker 1: Was when she played Rhapsody in Blue with the Boston Pops.
Speaker 1: She was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Good for her.
Speaker 1: He played piano solo. I love that piece of music.
Speaker 1: She was wonderful.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Second, you got to go to Panama fair enough. And
Speaker 1: because now even though it's it's in deterioration, it's not
Speaker 1: that deteriorated. I stuck my hand off the boat and
Speaker 1: touched the concrete as it was going up one of
Speaker 1: the one of the gates. It was a wonderful experience.
Speaker 1: And last but not least, I am so glad to
Speaker 1: see that our future president is making moves right now
Speaker 1: in front of the world, in front of the American people,
Speaker 1: that he's going to do it, and I think he will.
Speaker 3: Well, let's see what happens. I mean, we're not going
Speaker 3: to go to war with Panama, but I think it
Speaker 3: might be. I think that economically we could offer Panama
Speaker 3: some inducements to give us back control of the Panama Canal.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was a wonderful experience. And there's a great
Speaker 1: book it's called The Path between the Seas and it
Speaker 1: was written by David McCollough.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, great, David was a guest in this program,
Speaker 3: the late great David McCullough, Bill.
Speaker 1: Speaking, And one more thing, and I'll let you go
Speaker 1: because I can always call back later. The other guest
Speaker 1: that often that you had, and I can't remember his
Speaker 1: name right now, but he wrote the book on Adam
Speaker 1: the Lawyer. It's escaping me.
Speaker 3: Oh you mean John Adams, John, No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Currently he wrote the book. It was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a college thesis.
Speaker 3: You know what, Pete, call me back, call me back
Speaker 3: sometime later this week. You'll think of it. I'm blanket
Speaker 3: on it too, but I got other callers. I gotta go.
Speaker 3: This is not good.
Speaker 1: It was a great book, and I thank you for that.
Speaker 1: Okay again, Happy new Year, and we will be in touch.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks appreciated. Let me go to Bill and Easton.
Speaker 3: Bill want to get you and a couple more in
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Bill.
Speaker 9: And it's the process of renaming that body of water
Speaker 9: is more informal than we think. Googler, not that question anymore.
Speaker 9: But he's going to get all the federal agencies on
Speaker 9: the same page, FAA, Military, etcetera.
Speaker 1: No problem.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, wait a second, how do you then get
Speaker 3: the rest of the world to comply.
Speaker 9: You don't know, because Rio Grande River is called Rio
Speaker 9: Bravo by Mexican This is a political thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, got good, Okay, that could be fine. That's fine.
Speaker 3: That well, thank you very much.
Speaker 9: So it's three other examples. Burma we is, people try
Speaker 9: to rename it me and mok the yeah spelling of
Speaker 9: Turkey Turkey, Mount McKinley, Denali. And we have a new
Speaker 9: town of Massachusetts in nineteen ninety six a Quinna used
Speaker 9: to be gay ahead, that's correct.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying that can be done internally. I
Speaker 3: assumed that that would have been done by the state
Speaker 3: legislature or something like that. I think, I don't know.
Speaker 9: Not the state. We control a good portion of a
Speaker 9: belf of Mexico, as does Mexico in Cuba, believe it
Speaker 9: or not, has international rights an not a portion of
Speaker 9: it if Yeah, a big deal. Yeah, it's all They're
Speaker 9: trying to throw us out of Honduras too, because you know,
Speaker 9: it's all is the immigration, you know.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 9: So you had great information.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. I knew someone else there would help
Speaker 3: us out. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Okay, welcome Dan.
Speaker 3: Thanks palp uh Rob, what who gets some time? My
Speaker 3: two minute warning? Where are we? Two minutes?
Speaker 1: Right? Now?
Speaker 3: Here we go get Kevin and Lowell. Kevin, gotta be quick,
Speaker 3: go ahead, you've called late. I'll give you a few seconds.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, let Kevin.
Speaker 10: Yep, sorry about that, Dan for Colin late, So I'll
Speaker 10: make it quick. I think if we buy Mexico instead,
Speaker 10: then we can name the Golf of Mexico Golf of America.
Speaker 10: I think, yeah, maybe that would be an option. I
Speaker 10: don't but for real, I don't see why we should
Speaker 10: buy Greenland. I'm pretty sure other things could be worked out.
Speaker 10: And uh, I do hope to get those radio tips
Speaker 10: from your second time caller. Now and I'm called the.
Speaker 3: Other day you sent you You left me a voicemail, right, Kevin, Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I do me a favorite, Kevin. Leave your number with Rob.
Speaker 3: It's as simple. It's as simple as that. And I'll
Speaker 3: give you a call at some point. Be more than happy.
Speaker 3: But leave your number with Rob.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, YEPA thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna give the final word tonight to Christine
Speaker 3: from Dadhim. Christine only got about twenty seconds for you.
Speaker 3: What can you do?
Speaker 1: With it.
Speaker 11: I was reading that the Gulf of Mexico in the
Speaker 11: last six centuries has been renamed in the last six centuries,
Speaker 11: but it would be hot to the nabigational issues if
Speaker 11: they changed it. That's what they say of the sale is.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I don't know why that would be. It
Speaker 3: would seem to me that if you change the name,
Speaker 3: you changed the name. We'll do some more research on this.
Speaker 3: We'll do some more Christine, thank you for that suggestion. Okay, thanks,
Speaker 3: talk soon, good night, good night. All right, we're done
Speaker 3: for the night. I want to thank Rob, want to
Speaker 3: thank Maria, want to thank all the callers, and want
Speaker 3: to thank everybody who is listening. Tonight. I will be
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