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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of
Speaker 2: The Unfiltered Rice with me Heidi Love, and today I
Speaker 2: have with me an awesome guest. I've been looking forward
Speaker 2: to this ever since I heard him on Tinfoil Hat
Speaker 2: Prometheus Ones podcast, Doc Brown, how are you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing good. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you came on. Like I said, when
Speaker 2: we were kind of talking before this started up, I
Speaker 2: was like, Oh my gosh, the stuff he's talking about,
Speaker 2: it's stinging a bunch of bells. So I was excited
Speaker 2: when you said you had come on so we could
Speaker 2: have a chat about it. And uh, I just think
Speaker 2: it'll be an. I think it'll go some fun places.
Speaker 2: So let people know where to arsh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always interesting talk to other people and get
Speaker 3: their ideas and kind of cross pollin eight, because I
Speaker 3: mean that's how you learn stuff, that's how you grow.
Speaker 3: We all nobody has it all figured out, so we
Speaker 3: all have pieces and we got to talk to each
Speaker 3: other and see if those pieces fit together or not
Speaker 3: and we can come up with a fuller picture.
Speaker 2: Yes, I totally agree on that. And then I was saying,
Speaker 2: let people know one more time at the beginning and
Speaker 2: then we'll do it at the end. Where to find you,
Speaker 2: just in case they can't stay for the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, anywhere you can consume content, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok,
Speaker 3: all those fine establishments, any social media or any place
Speaker 3: where you can consume podcast content. You can find me there.
Speaker 3: Just search up Prometheus Lynn's podcast.
Speaker 2: Perfect. Well, this is exciting. I'll let you start in.
Speaker 2: This is I just I just think this is a
Speaker 2: I think you're right on the money in my personal opinion.
Speaker 2: But I have talked to La before and I think
Speaker 2: you're hitting down doors with us. I think you're right
Speaker 2: on the right tracks. So let us let us know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, this is actually this
Speaker 3: all started with this, like as a caddy joke between friends,
Speaker 3: we were talking about Bigfoot and just out of no word,
Speaker 3: Genesis twenty five, twenty five popped in my head and
Speaker 3: that's the birth of Esau. And it says that this
Speaker 3: guy was born red and he was covered in hair
Speaker 3: from head to toe like a Harry Cloak. And I've
Speaker 3: heard people say, oh, no, you know, this is talking
Speaker 3: about the white race. You know, he was you know,
Speaker 3: red skins, you know, And no, this is talking about
Speaker 3: the Romans, you know. Oh no, this is talking about
Speaker 3: the Gentiles. Deal. That was just hyperbole, poetic language. I've
Speaker 3: heard all that stuff. But then when you actually not
Speaker 3: only does it say that, it demonstrates it because when
Speaker 3: you go through and hear the story of Esau, his
Speaker 3: brother Jacob tricks his blind father by taking a goat's
Speaker 3: fur and covering himself with it, and that his father
Speaker 3: feels his arm and feels this hair and says, oh, yes,
Speaker 3: it's my son Esau, and even makes a comment about
Speaker 3: his smell. He said he smells of the field. I
Speaker 3: was like, no, this is not hyperbole, this is not
Speaker 3: poetic language, this is literal.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. It's his story is busted up
Speaker 3: through all these different manuscripts, and some people you can
Speaker 3: fail to realize that they didn't have a Bible back then.
Speaker 3: They had all these scrolls and they were individual you know,
Speaker 3: stories and testimonies, and they were in circulation. So when
Speaker 3: you get to the sixty six book Cannon, when you
Speaker 3: get things like the Genesis six narrative and Esau, you
Speaker 3: just get little blurbs about them, because, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: they had all these other scrolls, they had all these
Speaker 3: other oral traditions that went into detail about these events
Speaker 3: and these characters. So the writers felt they didn't have
Speaker 3: the need to beat a dead horse, so to speak.
Speaker 3: So when I started going through the Jewish targums and
Speaker 3: reading some of the writings of Rashi and Flavous, Josiphus,
Speaker 3: the Book of Jasher and all these other you know writings,
Speaker 3: all the little puzzle pieces like we talked about, were
Speaker 3: in those books. And when you take them and you
Speaker 3: put them together, it tells a seamless story, I mean pretty,
Speaker 3: I mean an epic journey and story of this guy
Speaker 3: named Esau. And I just once I had it all together,
Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is a very, very wild journey,
Speaker 3: and other people, I think we'd enjoy hearing this. So
Speaker 3: I wrote a book called the Epic of Esau.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I think it's really great because I think
Speaker 2: a lot has been lost, and I think that it's
Speaker 2: you know, this isn't the only person. And I think
Speaker 2: it's funny that people would say, oh, well, he was
Speaker 2: just a blurb or whatever. But yet we've got my
Speaker 2: ex religion being a Mormon. How much is Melchisedec ever mentioned,
Speaker 2: And there's a whole priesthood on him, like in my church.
Speaker 2: He's a big deal, you know. So I just think,
Speaker 2: like you said, I think a lot of stuff has
Speaker 2: been maybe not lost, but lost.
Speaker 3: And even with Melchisedek. Well, I was talking with Doug
Speaker 3: van Dorn on a show and he was talking about how,
Speaker 3: you know, in the Book of Hebrews it aligns Jesus
Speaker 3: to the order of Melchisedek. And he said that when
Speaker 3: you dig through the original and the oldest writings that
Speaker 3: they have, they have the genealogy of Seth a lot
Speaker 3: shorter than what it is in the current text today.
Speaker 3: And as he got to dig it and find it, out.
Speaker 3: Of course, the Jewish people don't see Christ as the Messiah,
Speaker 3: so anything that points to that they try to obbuskate
Speaker 3: in a race. And he said that that was his belief,
Speaker 3: that you can look at the oldest texts and see
Speaker 3: all this time was added to the lineage of Seth
Speaker 3: for the sole purpose because the rabbis and stuff. Now,
Speaker 3: I'll say that Seth was Malkisedic that popped up in
Speaker 3: front of Abraham, and that's the whole reason why they
Speaker 3: did it. Now that's a you know, that's a conspiracy.
Speaker 3: That is true. You know, that's not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3: It happened. They added hundreds of years to the life
Speaker 3: of Seth just so they could point away from Christ
Speaker 3: into Seth and say, oh, no, this Seth guy, he
Speaker 3: was the malkiza dec the prince of Salem.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's wild. I didn't know that. I knew,
Speaker 2: you know, from from my religion. Apparently he popped up
Speaker 2: and bestowed the priest stood back on to Joseph Smith
Speaker 2: and after death, this is how what we're told. And
Speaker 2: I laughed because I'm like, they sure got a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff going on with death, but not only that,
Speaker 2: they are one of probably the people that are a
Speaker 2: little bit of thorn in the Jewish people's sides, because well,
Speaker 2: they don't own twenty three and Me and they don't
Speaker 2: own ancestry dot com, but they do own FamilySearch dot org,
Speaker 2: which is older than both, and all their records pour
Speaker 2: into that, and they are huge on genealogy. In fact,
Speaker 2: they blew out the side of a mountain here about
Speaker 2: an hour away from where I live, and there's three
Speaker 2: point three billion samples of DNA in that mountain and
Speaker 2: it looks like Fort Knox. It's like you can't go
Speaker 2: in it. It looks like it's crazy. I have photos
Speaker 2: of it, and I'm just like, Okay, something's been going
Speaker 2: on with the genealogy lately. Because the day did he
Speaker 2: got arrested, everything on the board, everybody that was on
Speaker 2: the board of twenty three and me quit same day.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, makes.
Speaker 2: You wonder, Yeah, makes you wonder. You know, you have
Speaker 2: enough of that happen and you start to go the
Speaker 2: war chickies. Do you know who I'm talking about? The
Speaker 2: lady that she ran YouTube originally and then her sister
Speaker 2: runs twenty three and Me and they had a famous
Speaker 2: I think it was Russian dad. But if I'm wrong
Speaker 2: on the background on that, it's fine. But she suddenly
Speaker 2: dies in August of a sudden cancer. She's only like fifty,
Speaker 2: and her son suddenly died of an overdose four months
Speaker 2: before that, and then we got the twenty three and
Speaker 2: Me Lady, which is her sister, and everybody just resigns.
Speaker 2: But they say that they found Nimrod's bones, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know that story. Do you know this?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's whole reason we invaded I.
Speaker 2: Rack, yes, yes, so I'll let you tell that story.
Speaker 2: It's pretty fun. But I think they may know a
Speaker 2: lot more than we know.
Speaker 3: Oh definitely, yeah, mm hmm y. What was Hailey Clinton's
Speaker 3: emails splat out asking you know they recovered the body.
Speaker 2: It's so weird that people still have this cognitive dissonance
Speaker 2: on it because I'm like or like on weather modification,
Speaker 2: I'm like, where you're at right now? For sure? Hello,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just like, okay, you really think that
Speaker 2: just happened like conveniently after they signed that deal? Because
Speaker 2: I don't. I kind of don't. But what conspiracy theorists
Speaker 2: and a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people are just in the dark. You know
Speaker 3: a lot of people get caught in their their bubbles
Speaker 3: of going to work, paying their bills, taking their kids
Speaker 3: to the soccer game or the football game, and rent
Speaker 3: and repeat. And that's kind of my design. You know.
Speaker 3: They want you so busy doing the the meaningless things
Speaker 3: and be distracted and be that rat on the wheel
Speaker 3: that because you don't have time to stop and think
Speaker 3: and look into things and ask intelligent questions. You know,
Speaker 3: it's the whope goes back to the realm, the costum
Speaker 3: and the games. The people are getting too smart, they're
Speaker 3: starting to ask questions. Well, just throw some gladiators and
Speaker 3: tigers in a ring, entertain the people and distract them.
Speaker 2: Are you not entertained? Right? It's silly. And and people
Speaker 2: ask me all the time because I still work. I'm
Speaker 2: a nurse. I got six kids, two grandkids, they all
Speaker 2: got counterparts. I got all this stuff going on. And
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, guys, there is time if you make
Speaker 2: if you want to do something, there's time because you
Speaker 2: are where you want to see you. Yeah. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: don't give up, people, Yeah, hop off the rat race.
Speaker 2: It's good. It's a good thing to do. So in
Speaker 2: in this writing, this book, you found some really interesting things,
Speaker 2: So we'll continue down this journey. I love it so far.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you came on. That's gonna be great.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. Uh. But yeah, so I
Speaker 3: guess I can just kind of lay it out for
Speaker 3: you guys, uh and let you see how this uh
Speaker 3: journey weaves itself in and out because there's there's a
Speaker 3: lot of twists and turns, and there's gonna be time.
Speaker 3: So I'm talking about something totally not related to East
Speaker 3: Saw and you're gonna be like, what is going on here?
Speaker 3: This guy's going up on a rabbit trail. No, everything
Speaker 3: I talk about it all ties in and it does.
Speaker 3: It just weaves itself in and out of the Bible.
Speaker 3: It really is just an epic journey for sure. But yeah,
Speaker 3: you have the introduction of Esau. But before that, when
Speaker 3: he is conceived in his mother's womb, an angel of
Speaker 3: the Lord you know, comes to Rebecca and this is
Speaker 3: in Genesis twenty five, twenty two and gives a proclamation
Speaker 3: to her and she says, or he says to her,
Speaker 3: the children struggle together within her. So she inquired of
Speaker 3: the Lord, and the Lord said, two nations are in
Speaker 3: your womb, and two peoples from within you shall be divided,
Speaker 3: and one shall be stronger than the other. So if
Speaker 3: we go back to Genesis three, and just like our
Speaker 3: mutual friend La Marzouli always likes to say, everything hinges
Speaker 3: on Genesis three fifteen in this seed war, and I
Speaker 3: believe that to be a fact. So when we go there,
Speaker 3: that's the fall of Adam and Eve and the curse
Speaker 3: of this serpent. So in verse fourteen, chapter three, it
Speaker 3: says the Lord God said of the serpent, because you've
Speaker 3: done this curse above all livestock and above all beasts
Speaker 3: of the field. On your belly, you shall go dust.
Speaker 3: You shall eat all the days of your life. And
Speaker 3: I will put enmity between you and the woman, and
Speaker 3: between your offspring and her offspring. He shall bruise your head,
Speaker 3: and you shall bruise his heel. And the man called
Speaker 3: his wife's name Eve because she was the mother of
Speaker 3: all living. And the Lord God made for Adam and
Speaker 3: his wife garments of skin and clothed them.
Speaker 2: Yes, garments, yes, yes, you know me. And the garment talk.
Speaker 2: I was all over that one. I was like, oh oh,
Speaker 2: so yeah, with them with my old religion with Mormonism,
Speaker 2: they do hold the Malkezidic priesthood and once you hold
Speaker 2: that fort, as a man, you would go through the temple,
Speaker 2: and as a woman you can go. If you serve
Speaker 2: a mission or you're gonna get married, you go and
Speaker 2: you get some garments there, and you wear a shield.
Speaker 2: Before you get the garments, you're naked under it. Well
Speaker 2: they've changed it because people were freaking out, but they
Speaker 2: put on this head poncho basically it's open on the
Speaker 2: sides and you get anointed with oil. Then you get
Speaker 2: these garments. So when you I'm gonna let you take
Speaker 2: over there because it just plugs in so perfectly.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so that word nicause just for those it's
Speaker 3: not familiar. And I know this sometimes when I talk
Speaker 3: about this, even in my head, it sounds redundant. It's
Speaker 3: like everybody knows about my kaser, everybody knows about the nakash. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's might be some new people enter in
Speaker 3: this space and maybe never heard of it. So I
Speaker 3: feel it's important to kind of touch on that at least.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that word, you know is nikash that they
Speaker 3: translate in English to so and Mike Eiser. You know,
Speaker 3: he's no longer with us, but it was a great scholar.
Speaker 3: Totally recommend you read all of his books, but if
Speaker 3: you don't have the time, at least read The Unseen
Speaker 3: Realm and Reversing Hermand. Those two were just masterpieces. And
Speaker 3: he's a scholar in ancient languages, dead languages. He knows
Speaker 3: his stuff. And he said that the Hebrew language is
Speaker 3: just like any other language. On English, we have one
Speaker 3: word that can have multiple meanings. So we have to
Speaker 3: take each of those meanings and insert them into the
Speaker 3: sentence and the paragraph of the subject that we're talking
Speaker 3: about to see which one fits in better. So he
Speaker 3: had said that this word can mean serpent, but can
Speaker 3: also mean the shining one or the one who practices
Speaker 3: divin nation. And in his book The Unseen Realm, he
Speaker 3: poses the question, well, what makes more sense a talking
Speaker 3: snake or a divine being on God's holy mountain, a
Speaker 3: member of the divine council that revailed and it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Is actually yeah, yeah, this is a story. In Mormonism,
Speaker 2: they totally believe, and in fact they call God Eloheen,
Speaker 2: which they don't really know. That's like a title, I
Speaker 2: mean I think they got some of it, but like
Speaker 2: it gets weird. But they believe this whole story about
Speaker 2: Lucifer was Jesus's brother and he had this fall after
Speaker 2: the war in heaven. They did add a part. And
Speaker 2: I find this interesting and I kind of wonder sometimes
Speaker 2: that if it has to do with Esau's coloring or not,
Speaker 2: but or maybe another they say Kane as well. But
Speaker 2: they they say that the people that are black, specifically black,
Speaker 2: nothing to do with brown people, were the people in
Speaker 2: Heaven that were watchers that were watching the whole thing
Speaker 2: happen and did nothing. So they were cursed with the
Speaker 2: skin of blackness for the rest of their life. And
Speaker 2: so I mean it makes it worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when you look into for Masonry too, you
Speaker 3: know they were a racist organization. It wasn't till late
Speaker 3: late late in the you know, after they're forming that
Speaker 3: they allowed blacks. But even then they weren't allowed in
Speaker 3: the general population with the other you know, blue collars.
Speaker 3: They had their own. It was segregated, yep.
Speaker 2: And same for Marmons till nineteen seventy eight, Like that's
Speaker 2: long you know, that's not that long ago that I mean,
Speaker 2: I was alive then, so weird. Yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 3: In there we have these garments you know, that are given.
Speaker 3: So what I want to draw attention to if people
Speaker 3: didn't notice with Esau it said, two peoples are in
Speaker 3: your womb, you know, two nations, two peoples, and they
Speaker 3: will be an enity, and they struggle together and fight
Speaker 3: in the womb. And then you come here to Genesis three,
Speaker 3: it says plainly that the serpent will have a seed
Speaker 3: and the woman will have a seed, and they will
Speaker 3: be at mtity with each other. So yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And the Hebrew scholars and the rabbis, they have this
Speaker 3: thing called the law first mentioned, you know, if because
Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff was read out loud in
Speaker 3: the Hebrew, so a lot of people didn't know how
Speaker 3: to you know, read the text or had access to them.
Speaker 3: So at the synagogues they would get together and they
Speaker 3: would read and when they use these words, they would
Speaker 3: pick them, you know, with intention to draw people's minds
Speaker 3: back to the first time they heard that, and it
Speaker 3: was like a word association type thing. And this is
Speaker 3: something that's not that I pulled out in my back pocket.
Speaker 3: This is something scholars and Jewish rabbis and all you know,
Speaker 3: are in agreement on So I think that's what they
Speaker 3: were trying to do there with that scenario. But with
Speaker 3: these garments, when we get down into verse twenty, you know,
Speaker 3: it says that God made them garments and skins, with
Speaker 3: skins and cloth them. Well, in Hebrew word for cloths
Speaker 3: is he'll bish, so he he'll bishes Adam's nakedness with
Speaker 3: a connonit. And in Hebrew in this instance it's translated
Speaker 3: as a tunic or no, I'm sorry, and this one
Speaker 3: is it's cloth. But ninety percent of the time this
Speaker 3: very same word is translated as a tunic. Okay, So
Speaker 3: when we go through Exodus twenty nine, in chapter twenty eight,
Speaker 3: this is where we have God giving the instructions on
Speaker 3: how to make the priestly epod and you know, how
Speaker 3: to put it on how to conduct themselves before entering
Speaker 3: the temple, and all those instructions. Well, once again we
Speaker 3: have this law first mentioned coming into play because it
Speaker 3: uses those same exact two words from Genesis three. So
Speaker 3: when it describes these garments for these priests, it says
Speaker 3: that it is to he'll bish their naked goodness. It
Speaker 3: is to cover their nakedness. And when you talk to
Speaker 3: the rabbis or any Jewish person, they all agree that
Speaker 3: they all trace their lineages and their origin point for
Speaker 3: the priesthood back to Adam. That Adam was the first
Speaker 3: king and high priest of creation of the human races
Speaker 3: of earth. So that's another thing that's commonly accepted. So
Speaker 3: when we get to Ezekiel twenty eight, that's when we
Speaker 3: see another description of these garments, and this is a
Speaker 3: condemnation to the King of Tire, and you can clearly see,
Speaker 3: you know, it even says out right, you know, this
Speaker 3: is to the King of Tire. Well, little backstory. Tire
Speaker 3: was the Phoenicians. These were the Canaanite. You know, they
Speaker 3: had Nephlum giants in their their lineages, passed their children
Speaker 3: through the fire, and done all this wicked stuff. But
Speaker 3: halfway through the wording of it changes and it's no
Speaker 3: longer talking to the King of Tire, but it's talking
Speaker 3: to the spiritual entity that is pulling the strings behind
Speaker 3: this leader. It's this whole Deuteronomy thirty two worldview. These
Speaker 3: rebellious sons of God that rule over the nations, and
Speaker 3: they're you know, ruling through these earthly kings, you know,
Speaker 3: kind of like conduits, right, And how you know this
Speaker 3: is because just some of the wording here. You know,
Speaker 3: it says that you were in the garden of God. Well,
Speaker 3: the King of Tyre was not in the garden of God.
Speaker 3: And then it says you were perfect in all your
Speaker 3: ways and beautiful, you know, and perfect in all your
Speaker 3: ways until unrighteousness was found in you, and you were
Speaker 3: an anointed guardian Cherub. So clearly he's no longer talking
Speaker 3: to this king, but down through there you get these
Speaker 3: description of his beautiful garments and his cover rings. So
Speaker 3: in verse thirteen of Ezekiel twenty eight, it says, you
Speaker 3: know you were in Eden, the garden of God. Every
Speaker 3: precious stone was your covering sortiest topaz, diamond, barrel, onyx jasper, sapphire, emerald, carbuncle,
Speaker 3: and crafted and gold was your settings and your engravings.
Speaker 3: You know you were an annointed guardian cherryb amongst the
Speaker 3: stones of fire you walked. And it even goes on
Speaker 3: and says that you profaned your sanctuaries and I cast
Speaker 3: you as a profane thing from the mountain of God.
Speaker 3: This is Satan. This is the nakash that he's talking about.
Speaker 3: And how funny when you take the description of the
Speaker 3: clothing that he was wearing, it even fits the description
Speaker 3: of his name. He would certainly be the shining one
Speaker 3: with all these colored stones and the gold inlays and
Speaker 3: all that stuff, and it sounds identical to the priestly
Speaker 3: e Fod.
Speaker 2: That's so wild. Another thing in the Marmon Temple ceremony
Speaker 2: a lot of people won't talk about is there's a
Speaker 2: point in the ceremony because it's a play where we
Speaker 2: are standing, asked to stand, and they're doing this play
Speaker 2: in front of us, and Lucifer comes and he says,
Speaker 2: you know, Adam's praying and he's sorry, and they've already rebelled,
Speaker 2: but he's crying out for the god of this world.
Speaker 2: And who does show up. It's Lucifer. It's not God
Speaker 2: at that time. And he says, you need to cover
Speaker 2: yourself and we'll make you some fig leaves, you know,
Speaker 2: to do that, and this is how because God's going
Speaker 2: to know you sinned. And so he says, oh okay.
Speaker 2: So then everybody stands up and we do what Satan
Speaker 2: says with this green fig leaf apron, and we all
Speaker 2: do what Lucifer says, and put it on. And also
Speaker 2: Adam says to him, well, he's wearing a black one,
Speaker 2: but it used to be a Masonic one. And he says, well,
Speaker 2: what's yours, and he said, it's a sign of my
Speaker 2: priest to and powers. Very interesting to go with.
Speaker 3: This, I thought, yeah, And that's wild is because this
Speaker 3: theory that I had come up with what I'm about
Speaker 3: to go into was something that I just came up
Speaker 3: with on my own after reading these and kind of
Speaker 3: seeing where it was pointing, and just formed a theory.
Speaker 3: So I think it's pretty wid you right on something
Speaker 3: that you know that that this is something someone else
Speaker 3: had already talked about or found out. So and I
Speaker 3: say that because a lot of times, you know, you
Speaker 3: hear stories and you kind of blend them to you know,
Speaker 3: your theories or Adam in this this was just something
Speaker 3: by reading those verses I told you and kind of
Speaker 3: formulated this idea. So with that, I say, what if
Speaker 3: according to these texts, here Satan wearing this priestly e
Speaker 3: foud It says he has a sanctuary all those things
Speaker 3: I just talked about. That's when Satan was cursed and
Speaker 3: cast from the Mountain of God. He was demoted, he
Speaker 3: was no longer he defiled his sanctuaries. According to his
Speaker 3: equal twenty eight that his garments were removed and they
Speaker 3: were given to Adam and Eve. And this is why
Speaker 3: the Rabbis traced their lineages back to Adam being the
Speaker 3: first king and priest of creation. And so if you
Speaker 3: think of Satan full of pride, you know, beautiful, it said,
Speaker 3: perfect in all these ways until unrighteousness was found in him.
Speaker 3: And wearing this, you know, multicolored stone covering with gold
Speaker 3: and lays and all this stuff. This was the symbol,
Speaker 3: the status, symbol of his pride. It was something he
Speaker 3: wore with pride. Now that once symbol of pride is
Speaker 3: a constant reminder of his shame and of his downfall,
Speaker 3: seeing it on his younger brother. If you take that
Speaker 3: viewpoint that we are all God's children. According to Job,
Speaker 3: the angelic race was there at the beginning. God says
Speaker 3: to Job, where were you when I hung the stars
Speaker 3: and done this and done that and laid its foundations,
Speaker 3: when the morning stars the sons of God saying for
Speaker 3: joy at the side of creation. And we were the
Speaker 3: younger brothers that came later, I think when we look
Speaker 3: at the parable of the prodigal Son, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: there is surface level meanings, but scriptures, like an onion,
Speaker 3: you peel it back, there's multiple layers, and I think
Speaker 3: that's what it's pointing to is the older brother that
Speaker 3: never left is the angelic race. The younger brother that
Speaker 3: wanted his inheritance now and squandered it away enrolled in
Speaker 3: that the pig excrement came back home and his father
Speaker 3: welcomed him with loving arms, and the older brother was
Speaker 3: jealous and upset. And this is the story of the
Speaker 3: family of God and our elder brothers, the angelic race.
Speaker 3: So that alone, you know what would make Satan hate you.
Speaker 3: He tried to trick you and make you look like
Speaker 3: an idiot, but instead you were exalted to the high
Speaker 3: position and he was cast down.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you're very right, and I think that
Speaker 2: it's not just Lucifer from what I hear. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not a practitioner of magic, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: to study the occult a lot because it has answers.
Speaker 2: I get a lot of pushback from that in the
Speaker 2: Christian community, but that's just it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I'm going to have people on that talk about that
Speaker 2: because there's answers in opposition, and sure you have faces. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: sure enough. They talk about this very thing, you know that,
Speaker 2: even the Jewish people. I talk to a guy that's
Speaker 2: an esoteric studies and he's a doctor of that. His
Speaker 2: wife's a rabbi. He said, any day of the week,
Speaker 2: I'd rather deal with a demon than an angel because
Speaker 2: they are known to be really militant and they do
Speaker 2: not care. And so I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 2: it's true, you know, yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So with that bunny trail, you know, I said,
Speaker 3: you know, this was all gonna you know, weave in together.
Speaker 3: So if we come back to Esau and we have
Speaker 3: the birth of Esau, and I kind of touched on
Speaker 3: that at the beginning. It said to you know, he
Speaker 3: come out red, covered in hair, had to toe like
Speaker 3: a Harry Cloak. Well then it goes on to say
Speaker 3: that he came out first and his brother Jacob come
Speaker 3: out holding Esau's heel. So, if what I was saying
Speaker 3: is correct, and God gave this proclamation, this prophecy, that
Speaker 3: the two seeds would be at enmity with one another,
Speaker 3: and one would crush the head and the other would
Speaker 3: bruise the heel. If Esau was a serpent seed, it
Speaker 3: looks pretty picture perfect here that the Hacaiton stepped in
Speaker 3: and maybe flipped them around in the womb, because it's
Speaker 3: an exact inversion and opposite, and that's what Satan's known
Speaker 3: to do, pervert the things of God. So Esau, his
Speaker 3: seed comes out first with his foot pushing and pressing
Speaker 3: on the head of Jacob to exit the womb. But
Speaker 3: Jacob is bruising the heel by holding the heill. So
Speaker 3: once again, I think it points back to Genesis three fifteen,
Speaker 3: and I think the writers were trying to show you
Speaker 3: that whether it's true, right, wrong, in different whatever, but
Speaker 3: that's I think that's what they believed. And when you
Speaker 3: look into the targums, the targums talk about the birth
Speaker 3: of these twins and the conception. It says that when
Speaker 3: Rebecca would walk by a pagan home who worshiped other gods,
Speaker 3: that Esau would stir and get excited in the womb.
Speaker 3: And then it said when she would walk by a
Speaker 3: house to the Lord to Yahueh, that Jay would stir.
Speaker 3: So they were pointing to these two types of people
Speaker 3: and you know their their origins, I believe, and even
Speaker 3: Flavus Josephus, when you read his writings, I think he
Speaker 3: you know, he was a smart man and he chose
Speaker 3: his words wisely. When he describes the conflict between these
Speaker 3: two brothers, he chooses the word enmity. So once again
Speaker 3: he's pointing back to Genesis three fifteen and the idea
Speaker 3: of Esau being a serpent seed.
Speaker 2: Because it makes a lot more sense too if the
Speaker 2: sin is goes clear back right, if we go back
Speaker 2: to Eve and those twins with keenan Abel. You know,
Speaker 2: people don't want to this is like a hard thing
Speaker 2: to explain to people. But when you say that she
Speaker 2: probably knew, you know, this shining one and he was
Speaker 2: beautiful and blah blah blah and all the things that
Speaker 2: that enteils. I mean a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 2: figure that that's when it happened, right, And you can't
Speaker 2: carry twins in your in your belly from two different
Speaker 2: men even as a human, you know, being let alone
Speaker 2: if you have how some.
Speaker 3: People get tore up. You know when you say that,
Speaker 3: you know because they're like no scripture says that Adam
Speaker 3: laid with Eve and then conceived these kids. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: does say that. But at the same time, now with
Speaker 3: this being said, I don't want the Pharisees and the
Speaker 3: Karens to light the torches and come after me with pitchforks.
Speaker 3: I believe the Bible is the divine inspired word of God,
Speaker 3: and I believe God protected the overall arching themes and
Speaker 3: the important things because He is capable of that and
Speaker 3: he loves us that much. But we do clearly see,
Speaker 3: if we are honest, when we look at some of
Speaker 3: the older manuscripts, there's stuff's been changed, stuff's been taken away,
Speaker 3: stuff's been added. One of my favorite stories of Jesus
Speaker 3: with the prostitute or the woman that committed adult try
Speaker 3: you know, those without seeing cast the first own. When
Speaker 3: you look into the oldest manuscripts, that story is not there.
Speaker 3: So it's either someone added it and it could have
Speaker 3: very well been an oral tradition or a story that
Speaker 3: was traveling around that a later scribe, you know, added
Speaker 3: it in because it truly happened, and it's just somebody
Speaker 3: left it out here. He decided to add it. We
Speaker 3: look in the Old Testament where it says that David,
Speaker 3: you know, sinned against the Lord by completing this census. Well,
Speaker 3: in the first telling it says that God Yahweh tempts
Speaker 3: David to do this census. Well, then you get the
Speaker 3: retelling of it in the Book of Kings and it's changed,
Speaker 3: and this is in your Bible today. You can go
Speaker 3: and look and it says no longer it says Yahweh
Speaker 3: didn't tempt him. It says the Hasitan tempted David. So
Speaker 3: it's like good intentions. It wasn't nothing the fairest. I
Speaker 3: believe that the scribe that was retelling this story was
Speaker 3: just like man that makes y'a always look bad, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna protect him. I'm going to fix this and make
Speaker 3: God look good. So it's like, you know, how pompous
Speaker 3: of man that we think God needs protecting and we
Speaker 3: need to do these things. So you know, it could
Speaker 3: have been that, you know, this was a later added
Speaker 3: thing to try to protect and clean up the genealogies,
Speaker 3: because you know, Eve was the mother of all living
Speaker 3: you know, if Christ, you know, came from these lineages,
Speaker 3: you know, we've got to have pure and good looking genealogies.
Speaker 3: But when you look through the traditions of the Jewish people.
Speaker 3: They all pointed toward this idea. And but at the
Speaker 3: same time, that's why you see Kane doing these evil things.
Speaker 3: And his name means acquired and even the actions of
Speaker 3: the cursing. And I never thought of this till I
Speaker 3: talked to doctor Joy Pugh on the show, and she said,
Speaker 3: you know, old Mosaic law was eye for an eye,
Speaker 3: too for a tooth. She said, if eve ate this
Speaker 3: apple that she was not supposed to eat, her cursing
Speaker 3: could have been, you know, an upset stomach, diarrhea, you know,
Speaker 3: or something like that that involved her mouth or her stomach.
Speaker 3: And she said, And if your mother tells you not
Speaker 3: to get into the cookie jar and she walks out
Speaker 3: of the room, and you get into that cookie jar
Speaker 3: and start to eat, and she walks in and catches you,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do. You're gonna cover your mouth
Speaker 3: because that's where you committed the sin or the wrong.
Speaker 3: She said. So as soon as they partake of this tree,
Speaker 3: what do they do? They sew up their these big
Speaker 3: leaves and try to cover their private parts. That has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with eating. Why would they suddenly cover
Speaker 3: their private parts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they wouldn't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it could have been very well been a
Speaker 3: sexual sin, and then the curse was to labor, you know, childbirth.
Speaker 3: It was gonna be excruciatingly painful. And then it comes
Speaker 3: out and puts a curse between her seed and his seed.
Speaker 3: You know, me with good old boy logic, all that
Speaker 3: kind of points to that. But I'm not dogmatic about it. It
Speaker 3: could be in spiritual seed, you know what I.
Speaker 2: Mean, or it could be messed with those you know,
Speaker 2: it still could be an actual seed and be manipulated
Speaker 2: in utero, right, like we don't know. I mean, these
Speaker 2: things can happen. But I do find it interesting because
Speaker 2: you bring up like a lot about the Jews, and
Speaker 2: they have a whole nother story with Lilith too, and
Speaker 2: that's a whole other rabbit hole that I don't even know,
Speaker 2: you know, how that fits with this, But like they
Speaker 2: know a lot more than.
Speaker 3: We do, honestly, you know, all the common Like I
Speaker 3: love looking at comparative mythology, the whole two different twins,
Speaker 3: one being divine, one being not is a common theme.
Speaker 3: You know, if you look at the story of Hercules,
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't realize that Hercules had a
Speaker 3: twin and his other twin was completely human, nothing special
Speaker 3: about him. But the story goes is that the husband
Speaker 3: laid with the Hercules's mother and conceived, but then Zeus
Speaker 3: comes down and conceives again. That's a double pregnancy to
Speaker 3: different fathers.
Speaker 2: And which can happen to this day. You guys, I'm
Speaker 2: a registered nurse. I'm telling you it happens. We've delivered
Speaker 2: black and white kids from the same mom so, so.
Speaker 3: I think that's what it's kind of pointing to. But
Speaker 3: once we get to that, the famous story that everybody
Speaker 3: remembers him for is the trading of the birthright. And
Speaker 3: right away when I read that as a kid, I
Speaker 3: was like, this makes no sense to me, because the
Speaker 3: Jewish custom was is the eldest son got the farm
Speaker 3: and the younger son served the older brother. So in
Speaker 3: this story, just in the Book of Genesis, it says
Speaker 3: that Esau comes in from the field exhausted. Jacob's making
Speaker 3: some red stew and he says, give me some of
Speaker 3: that red stew, and Jacob says, trade me your birthright,
Speaker 3: and he says, ah, sure, And then Jacob's like, no,
Speaker 3: promise me, you'll do this thing, now, promise me, you know,
Speaker 3: like he's you know, concerned or pressing on him. And
Speaker 3: then Esau's like, fine, take it. I'm about to die.
Speaker 3: What use is a birthright to me? And I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's kind of melodramatic. And you know, it's like your
Speaker 3: dad is Donald Trump and you're about to inherit the
Speaker 3: millions of dollars and you come in one day and
Speaker 3: your little brother eating a bag of Dorito's on the
Speaker 3: couch and you're like, hey man, let me have some
Speaker 3: of those Trideau's. Yeah, sign over the company, bro, they're yours.
Speaker 3: That would never happen. But once you get into these
Speaker 3: extra biblical books, they fill in some of the gaps.
Speaker 3: And I tell people, you know, doctor Michael Hiser, I
Speaker 3: take his standpoint as far as these extra biblical books
Speaker 3: like the First Book of Enoch, the Book of the
Speaker 3: Watchers and Jasher and Jubileeze and all these others. You know,
Speaker 3: something doesn't have to be divine inspired to be important.
Speaker 3: We can read these things for cultural context, historical context,
Speaker 3: and see how these people lived, how they thought, because
Speaker 3: these are writings that they read and were familiar with,
Speaker 3: and they shape their thoughts in their daily life. And
Speaker 3: some of this stuff you can read and it does
Speaker 3: it just sounds ridiculous, and some of it's easy to
Speaker 3: separate the draws, you know, but it's one of those things.
Speaker 3: It's like the puzzle pieces. You don't have to agree
Speaker 3: with somebody one percent to be able to pull some
Speaker 3: truth from that person. And we need to treat these
Speaker 3: texts the same way. So when I read them, I
Speaker 3: compare them to scripture and see how they fit into
Speaker 3: the narrative of scripture. And if they don't contradict and
Speaker 3: they're not, you know, blasphemous, and they fit right in, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'll take that piece and add it to my arsenal.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what we all need to do.
Speaker 2: But the way they came out of the books anyway,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is men fiddling with things that were
Speaker 2: not men. Like this was a book that was put
Speaker 2: together and that's great, you know, divinely, yes, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean they didn't make it, you know, look good
Speaker 2: to them, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And here's what I mean. Yeah, this, you know,
Speaker 3: is the divine inspired word of God. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, it's God chose men as the conduit and
Speaker 3: men are known to make mistakes, were known to be prideful,
Speaker 3: and to lie and do things, and even with good intentions,
Speaker 3: try to help and protect God, you know, and muddy
Speaker 3: up the waters. And I think you know that that's
Speaker 3: something we have to take into consideration. And one thing
Speaker 3: I missed earlier is you see throughout scripture the warnings
Speaker 3: cursed is the man who adds or takes away from
Speaker 3: from these words. So therefore that nobody makes a rule
Speaker 3: up or gives a warning if something like that has
Speaker 3: not already happened or currently happening. Because if it was
Speaker 3: not possible to change the word of God and manipulate it,
Speaker 3: why give that warning it that warning has.
Speaker 2: No teeth, right, Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when we have this, and like I said,
Speaker 3: I started looking at some of these other books, and
Speaker 3: when you get into the book of Jashure, that fills
Speaker 3: in so much more context and it opens up a
Speaker 3: whole nother rabbit trail to in the Bible, and that
Speaker 3: really kind of blew me away. So when you get
Speaker 3: to Jasher, and it's in chapter twenty seven, it says
Speaker 3: Esau at that time, after the death of Abraham frequently
Speaker 3: went into the field to hunt, and Nimrod, king of
Speaker 3: Bible the same was Amfriel also frequently went with his
Speaker 3: mighty men to hunt in the field and walk about
Speaker 3: with his men in the cool of day. And Nimrod
Speaker 3: was observing Esau all of his days, for a jealousy
Speaker 3: was formed in the heart of Nimrod against Esau all
Speaker 3: of his days. And on a certain day, Esau went
Speaker 3: into the field to hunt, and he found Nimrod walking
Speaker 3: in the wilderness with his two men, and all of
Speaker 3: his mighty men and his people were with him in
Speaker 3: the wilderness, but they removed at a distance from him,
Speaker 3: and they went from him in a different direction to hunt.
Speaker 3: And Esau concealed himself from Nimrod, and he lurked for
Speaker 3: him in the wilderness, and Nimrod and his men that
Speaker 3: were with him did not know him. And Nimrod and
Speaker 3: his men frequently walked about in the field of the
Speaker 3: cool of the day, and to know where his men
Speaker 3: were hunting in the field. And Nimrod and his two
Speaker 3: men that were with him came to the place where
Speaker 3: they were, when Esau suddenly came from his lurking place,
Speaker 3: drew his sword and hastened and ran to Nimrod and
Speaker 3: cut off his head. And Esau fought a desperate fight
Speaker 3: with two men that were with Nimrod, and they called
Speaker 3: out to him. Esau turned to them and smote them
Speaker 3: to death with his sword, and all the mighty men
Speaker 3: of Nimrod, who had left him in the wilderness heard
Speaker 3: the cry at a distance, and all just kind of
Speaker 3: paraphrase from here. But after that, it says that he
Speaker 3: takes the time to remove Nimrod's garments and then flees,
Speaker 3: and it says that he goes to his house and
Speaker 3: stashes the garments, and then he goes to his father's house.
Speaker 3: And then there's where it picks up with the narrative
Speaker 3: in Genesis of the trading of the birth right, that
Speaker 3: Jacob's there making a stew and he trades the birth right.
Speaker 3: So now it makes a lot more sense, because it
Speaker 3: says plainly in the Book of Jeshure that Esau was
Speaker 3: in the field hunting. Nimrod had jealousy and envy built
Speaker 3: up towards Esau. And remember they're both described as mighty
Speaker 3: hunters of the field. And Esau was red covered and
Speaker 3: from head to toe look like this beastly of a
Speaker 3: sasquatch man, and Nimrod was hunting him, trying to kill him.
Speaker 3: I make this little joke, but it's kind of true.
Speaker 3: It's like the Highlander. There can only be one baby.
Speaker 3: There was two mighty men, and they wanted to both
Speaker 3: of them wanted to be the top dog.
Speaker 2: And it's funny that he cut the head off too,
Speaker 2: because that's the way Callenephelin. So yeah, so they say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when you look, it says in there it
Speaker 3: says repeatedly that the two men that were with him,
Speaker 3: it says they were mighty men and Hebrew this was
Speaker 3: gibble reim. This is the same words you used to
Speaker 3: describe the Nephelum giants. And so he comes in after
Speaker 3: killing Nimrod and two giants, and Nimrod was described as
Speaker 3: a giver room too. But it says that, you know,
Speaker 3: he wasn't born at Gibbereim. It says in genis that
Speaker 3: he became a Gibblerim. So he fights these three giants
Speaker 3: and kills them, and then he's got an army of
Speaker 3: men chasing after him. So he's on the run, scared
Speaker 3: to death for his life. He just killed the mighty
Speaker 3: king Nemrod probably sustained a lot of life threatening injuries
Speaker 3: in this battle, and so he's scared to death and
Speaker 3: he's asking Jacob to hide him to nurse him back
Speaker 3: to health. And that's why he makes that claim in Genesis.
Speaker 3: He says, what use is a birthright to me when
Speaker 3: I'm dead? Take it? And that makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely does, And it makes a lot more
Speaker 2: sense about you know, how big they were, like different
Speaker 2: things like this, and also about like the whole garment
Speaker 2: thing back to them Mormons, Like nothing against Mormons, people
Speaker 2: know I say this like Mormons. I don't mean the
Speaker 2: regular congregation of good people. I'm talking about where they
Speaker 2: came up with this stuff and why they use it
Speaker 2: and all the top top dogs basically, but anybody that
Speaker 2: knows like about men that have the priestthood and they
Speaker 2: have this divine right to rule within themselves and even
Speaker 2: the way they act sometimes here. I mean there's jokes.
Speaker 2: My friend always says the people out here are scary
Speaker 2: the way they drive, because they drive like death can't
Speaker 2: touch on because they literally fill this you know, mighty
Speaker 2: men type thing. And I'm like, is this why they
Speaker 2: do it? I don't think it has as much to
Speaker 2: do with the Jewish you know, dress and honoring and
Speaker 2: the temple thing as it does with this let's pay
Speaker 2: homage to this cull of Nimrod, you know.
Speaker 3: So that's crazy how that ties in. And you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of people when I tell them this story,
Speaker 3: they're like, well, these were like the garments given to
Speaker 3: Adam and Eve. This was supposed to be the birthright
Speaker 3: and the sign of the priesthood, passed through the good line.
Speaker 3: You know, how did Nemrod wind up with these things? Well,
Speaker 3: once again, when you go to the Book of Jasher
Speaker 3: and chapter seven, it gives you this lineage and it
Speaker 3: says it did. It went through the good line. And
Speaker 3: this is what some people will consider the order of
Speaker 3: malchies a deck, and it goes all the way through.
Speaker 3: It goes to Enoch, goes to Matthuselah, he goes to Noah,
Speaker 3: and it says that these garments were carried through the
Speaker 3: flood on the boat with Noah, and that in Ham's
Speaker 3: going out, Ham stole the garments and gave them to Cush,
Speaker 3: and that Cush concealed them and he had Nimrod, and
Speaker 3: just like it talks about Joseph and many of the
Speaker 3: other favored sons in the Bible. It says that Nimrod
Speaker 3: was the child of Kusha's old age, whom he loved exceedingly,
Speaker 3: and that he gave these garments to him. And it
Speaker 3: said at the coming of age, when Nimrod turned twenty
Speaker 3: years old, he put on these garments. And the Book
Speaker 3: of Jasher plainly says that he when he put on
Speaker 3: these garments, he became a mighty man, and it was
Speaker 3: through these garments that he got his power to conquer
Speaker 3: and rule over the nation. M yeah, that's the question
Speaker 3: that ja. Yeah, everyb says how did he become a gibberine?
Speaker 3: They believed it was these garments?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Oh yeah, Well it makes complete sense if
Speaker 2: if you know, you go back to who they probably
Speaker 2: belonged to once, right like, And what does he say
Speaker 2: in the in the temple, They're a sign of my
Speaker 2: powers and priesthoods, right Like. I mean, when I was
Speaker 2: listening to you, I was like, oh my gosh, this
Speaker 2: is like crazy that it goes with this other thing,
Speaker 2: because I knew you had written a book, and I
Speaker 2: knew you weren't Mormon, so I'm like, and they don't
Speaker 2: just tell you this, like you wouldn't have got that
Speaker 2: info from just anywhere, Like that's on the lockdown, you know,
Speaker 2: they keep that inside.
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm so glad you reached out to me,
Speaker 3: because it's another puzzle piece.
Speaker 2: So wild. Yeah, And they also talk about the this
Speaker 2: breastplate of righteousness when Joseph conveniently named again Joseph has
Speaker 2: the plates from the Book of Mormon. The original story
Speaker 2: was he used the urim and thumbum, which looks exactly
Speaker 2: like the breastplate of righteousness, which is what he calls it,
Speaker 2: by the way, to translate these but actually the truth
Speaker 2: was it was all translated with witchcraft with searstones and
Speaker 2: then blocking out the light and everything. So I mean
Speaker 2: some stuff was happening there. Once again. Yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2: And for those people that don't know all this stuff
Speaker 2: about the Nakash, really look into that because there are
Speaker 2: people to this day in the Brotherhood of the Snake,
Speaker 2: And I really highly encourage you to talk to Nathan Reynolds,
Speaker 2: the SRA survivor if you haven't yet, because he comes
Speaker 2: from that line and I think you might reach.
Speaker 3: Out to him. But I can't. I can't get him
Speaker 3: to respond to me, but I'll keep trying.
Speaker 2: He takes a long time. It took forever, it was.
Speaker 2: I think he's just busy. It took me almost a year.
Speaker 2: But I can I can also try. But I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you.
Speaker 3: Guys, is even how Hollywood even gets this stuff? You know,
Speaker 3: It's like they have these you know secrets, you know,
Speaker 3: these little esoteric winks that they give and elbow rubs
Speaker 3: to their buddies and they talk about it and they
Speaker 3: do movies on it, and they just throw it right
Speaker 3: there in your face. But the public so dumb, you know,
Speaker 3: we're so ignorant. We don't know about these things. Because
Speaker 3: once I found this out and discovered this and formed
Speaker 3: my you know hypothesis, immediately I thought of the movie
Speaker 3: Noah and the Flood. You remember that one. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: remember when I watched that, I was like, dude, how
Speaker 3: blasphemous they got this so wrong? Stone giants helping build
Speaker 3: the arc and oh my god, but there's some stuff
Speaker 3: in there, man, that they got right. And how did
Speaker 3: they get it right? How did they know? Because it's
Speaker 3: now only after learning what I've learned, that I look
Speaker 3: back and I see that. Do you remember in that
Speaker 3: movie King Ogg, Remember that golden snake skin that he
Speaker 3: had wrapped around him, And in that movie it kept
Speaker 3: calling back, It kept showing the serpent the snake coled
Speaker 3: around the tree. And when God casts him out, what
Speaker 3: happens in that movie He sheds his skin and this
Speaker 3: gold shimmering skin was left behind, and that's what had
Speaker 3: and that was the symbol of his authority and that
Speaker 3: he carried it with him everywhere. And once he broke
Speaker 3: into the arc, he was sitting there playing with it, remember,
Speaker 3: and it showed Ham Ham was sneaking down there and
Speaker 3: feeding him, and even while Ogg was asleep he picked
Speaker 3: it up and was looking at it it all times. Wow,
Speaker 3: that was symbolically these garments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sounds just like that. It sounds like what
Speaker 2: you were explaining.
Speaker 3: Huh. And the Greeks have their version of it, because
Speaker 3: those that are familiar with Adjason and the Argonauts, there
Speaker 3: was the Golden Fleece and in that story is a
Speaker 3: man and a woman that were commanded to be sacrificed
Speaker 3: to Zeus, and Athena comes and helps them and sends
Speaker 3: them a golden ram that can fly, and that's how
Speaker 3: they make their escape. Well, as they are making their escape,
Speaker 3: the woman falls and dies. But then the ram lands
Speaker 3: in the midst of the garden of Aries, and Athena says,
Speaker 3: sacrifice the ram. The ram will be the substitute for you,
Speaker 3: and that will satisfy God. So they sacrifice the ram.
Speaker 3: He then cuts the coverings, removes the golden fleece from
Speaker 3: this ram, and they hang it on a tree in
Speaker 3: the midst of the garden, and a great serpent guards
Speaker 3: the tree. And even with the Book of Genesis, you
Speaker 3: have once again you have Isaac, who was born to Abraham.
Speaker 3: God tells Abraham sacrifice his son. He goes and was
Speaker 3: getting ready to do it. Last minute things the Lord
Speaker 3: stays his hand tells him not to. And what does
Speaker 3: God do. God provides a ram in the thicket as
Speaker 3: a substitute for the sacrifice. All these have ancient beginnings
Speaker 3: and origins. It's just retellings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's weird, just like the flood stories. Everywhere
Speaker 2: you can, you can find all this stuff and everything.
Speaker 2: But but then people will say, well that's why I
Speaker 2: don't believe in God, right, I'm like, no, it should
Speaker 2: help you more like this is like this is real,
Speaker 2: because this is like you can see the path. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, I guess.
Speaker 3: But it's one too though, because it's either it's either
Speaker 3: that the pagans or the fallen realm copied and perverted
Speaker 3: the original story, or in my opinion, it is preconditionings
Speaker 3: of Christ and the truth that he gave to the nations.
Speaker 3: I think it's very arrogant and pompous to say that
Speaker 3: the creator of the universe remained silent for centuries to
Speaker 3: the entire world and then just suddenly decided to reveal
Speaker 3: himself just to a small select group. I think that
Speaker 3: he manifested and showed hisself to all these other nations.
Speaker 3: And that's why you have hints of the Gospel and
Speaker 3: hints of the Messiah and the stories throughout every culture.
Speaker 3: Is that either God presented himself and gave hints of
Speaker 3: the truth that way, when it came, they'd be more
Speaker 3: prone to accept the truth because it's a familiar story,
Speaker 3: or just like the cross. Paul says that if these
Speaker 3: fallen angels and rulers and principalities would have known that
Speaker 3: they were sealing their fate by crucifying the Lord of Glory.
Speaker 3: They never would, so they plotted and accidentally shot themselves
Speaker 3: in the foot. So it's a good possibility that these
Speaker 3: guys that were there at the beginning, and it says
Speaker 3: Jesus was the plan from the foundations, so they knew
Speaker 3: the plan, they just didn't know exactly how and when.
Speaker 3: So once again, would it be out of the you know,
Speaker 3: context of scripture for these fallen entities to imitate and
Speaker 3: pervert the coming Christ and present themselves to the nations
Speaker 3: to try to thwart them. That way, people will be
Speaker 3: like a you know, we have this story. It sounds
Speaker 3: just like Jesus and it predates him, so therefore it's hogwash,
Speaker 3: it's not true. But God uses what Satan uses for
Speaker 3: harm for good for those who love him.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely true.
Speaker 3: I think we see another pagan story, a perversion of
Speaker 3: this story I just told you about Nimrod and Esau
Speaker 3: with the epic of Gilgamesh. You know a lot of
Speaker 3: historians align Gilgamesh with Nimrod, and when you read the
Speaker 3: genealogies there, it says that Gilgamesh was two thirds God
Speaker 3: and that's his father was Leelu. And this is a
Speaker 3: vampire demon. So and then you have this other guy
Speaker 3: named Inky Do that was covered in hair from head
Speaker 3: to toe and he was a mighty man of the field,
Speaker 3: a great hunter. If you stack these two Esau and
Speaker 3: Inky Do side by side, they are identical and the
Speaker 3: same thing with Nimrod and Gilgamesh. But in this perverted
Speaker 3: version they fight and Gilgamesh wins and they end up
Speaker 3: becoming best friends and go on all these epic adventures together. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think it's a lot more explanative and
Speaker 2: funny enough. You know, there is a real disease that
Speaker 2: can cause like a sasquatch looking person and keep opartrica once. Yes,
Speaker 2: they want to say it's not real, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, no, this could be real like this
Speaker 2: just times it by the size factor and that genetic
Speaker 2: defect as well, Like like you said in one of them,
Speaker 2: like you start mixing seeds, you're gonna throw something out
Speaker 2: there that's a little weird, you know. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have these garments. I think you have them
Speaker 3: two more times at least possibly three.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: When you have the incident with Noah passing out drunk
Speaker 3: and ham seeing is uh He says that Ham uncovered
Speaker 3: his nakedness and big shock factor to some people. But
Speaker 3: it wasn't that Noah passed out drunk and his son
Speaker 3: seeing him naked and was making fun of him. No
Speaker 3: Ham slept with his mother. When you go to Leviticus seventeen,
Speaker 3: it says in there, to uncover thy father's nakedness is
Speaker 3: to sleep with thy father's wife. So with that ancient context,
Speaker 3: and this was an act of rebellion to take over
Speaker 3: the family, and we see that with Ruben. Ruben did
Speaker 3: the same thing. When you go to Absalom, David's son,
Speaker 3: when he runs David out of the kingdom during a
Speaker 3: hostile takeover. The first thing he done was pitched a
Speaker 3: tent on David's house and went into all of his
Speaker 3: concubines in the sight of all of Israel. You know,
Speaker 3: this was the way you flexed on the old man
Speaker 3: back in the day.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And so he does it.
Speaker 2: Didn't Nimrod sleep with his mom too?
Speaker 3: That I do not know.
Speaker 2: Stories, Yeah, And so.
Speaker 3: The way I looked at it was he tried to
Speaker 3: take over, and he goes out and tells his brothers,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like, and this is me and
Speaker 3: my creative take. But he does that deed, comes outside
Speaker 3: and it's like, hey, guys, dad's a drunk. All he
Speaker 3: does is get drunk. He's in a he's depressed ever
Speaker 3: since we got off the boat. He's not fit to
Speaker 3: lead anymore. I just did this deed. You guys go
Speaker 3: do the same, and we will take over. He can't
Speaker 3: take all three of us. It's our time now. And
Speaker 3: whether Ham's mother was willingly doing this or she was raped,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It doesn't come right out and say right,
Speaker 3: but it says the brothers takes a garment and place
Speaker 3: on their back and walk backwards, and they cover their
Speaker 3: father's nakedness. So they refuse. But when you look in
Speaker 3: the original language, it doesn't say a garment. In Hebrew,
Speaker 3: it says they took the garment, which once again was
Speaker 3: the symbol of authority in kingship and priesthood. So he
Speaker 3: was trying to become the leader of the family. So
Speaker 3: how fitting would it be that they took the symbol
Speaker 3: of leadership to cover their mother's nakedness and decline. The
Speaker 3: rebellion and the curse makes a lot more sense because
Speaker 3: he wakes up and says a servant to thy brothers,
Speaker 3: you shall be. So he wanted to be served, but
Speaker 3: instead he would serve. But then he says, curse itud
Speaker 3: be Canaan. When you look at the the chronology, Canaan
Speaker 3: wasn't born yet. Canaan was Ham's firstborn son. I think that,
Speaker 3: you know, it says that Noah, you know, woke up
Speaker 3: from his wine. So we assume this was a day.
Speaker 3: This could have been a few months down the road,
Speaker 3: you know. I take it as when once he decided
Speaker 3: to quit drinking every day, you know, got over his
Speaker 3: you know, moment of the dark soul, so to speak.
Speaker 3: And when he did, he realized his wife was pregnant
Speaker 3: and they were going to name it Canaan, and he
Speaker 3: realized that it wasn't his son, and he realized what
Speaker 3: Ham did. So that's why he said, cursed v Caanan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did look it up. Nimrod's wife was his mommy.
Speaker 2: So and it makes so much sense with this kind
Speaker 2: of stuff because this is the stuff they used to do.
Speaker 2: And that makes sense. I mean, I know it's horrible nowadays,
Speaker 2: but like this wasn't that uncommon. And actually Jack Parsons
Speaker 2: did this crap too, Like it's not like it never
Speaker 2: went away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, royals do it now. I mean, that's why
Speaker 3: they want to keep that bloodline pure. So they sleep
Speaker 3: with their mother, they sleep with their sisters. And you
Speaker 3: see it depicted in some of these hit movie series
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones, Yeah yeah, And I think you see
Speaker 3: those garments again with Joseph, because once again we follow
Speaker 3: the trading of this birthright once Jacob gets it, because
Speaker 3: how Jacob gets it. He didn't get it at the
Speaker 3: trading of the birthright with the stew because if you
Speaker 3: remember the story, it says that Esau hid the garments
Speaker 3: at his house and then went to his father's house,
Speaker 3: so it was like it was a verbal agreement, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll give you the birthright, and that was just basically,
Speaker 3: you'll get all the privileges of the eldest son. But
Speaker 3: he never planned on doing it. I think he'd done it.
Speaker 3: He just said that to deceive him. But then when
Speaker 3: it comes time, Isaac tells Esau calls him into his
Speaker 3: chamber he's going blind. He says, sons, go out, and
Speaker 3: I want to taste of your game one more time.
Speaker 3: So he goes out and goes to hunt Will Rebecca.
Speaker 3: Here's this. Ghest tells Jacob and says, go kill a
Speaker 3: young goat, bring it to me. I'll prepare a meal,
Speaker 3: and you pretend to be Esau and get the birth right.
Speaker 3: And he's immediately scared to death. He says, no, mother,
Speaker 3: I'm a smooth man. And what if he finds out
Speaker 3: and he curses me instead? And she said, if that happens,
Speaker 3: allow your curse to follow me. Just do what I say.
Speaker 3: And it says they take this scope for and wrap
Speaker 3: around Jacob. But then it also says, when you read
Speaker 3: it in Genesis, that she goes and gets a garment
Speaker 3: of Esaus. So I think she went in there and
Speaker 3: got the garments and put those on him too, and
Speaker 3: then he feels of him, you know, and he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: my son, you're so hairy and you smell of the field.
Speaker 3: And so Jacob later on has a son once again
Speaker 3: in his old age. It says whom he loved exceedingly,
Speaker 3: and this was Joseph, and it says he gives him
Speaker 3: a coat of many colors. I think that this is
Speaker 3: that garment because either there's even supernatural stuff tied to it,
Speaker 3: because once Joseph is given this coat of many colors.
Speaker 3: That's when he starts having these dreams and these visions,
Speaker 3: and he tells his brothers, I had a dream that
Speaker 3: you bowed before me. And not only did you bow
Speaker 3: the wheat of the field, and the stars of heaven
Speaker 3: bowed before me.
Speaker 2: That makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense, because I mean
Speaker 2: the stars of Heaven my angels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just fascinating when you follow that trail. And
Speaker 3: then like you talked about, was the genealogies and the
Speaker 3: mating and the hybrids. Because once this happened, Esau goes
Speaker 3: into full rebellion and he takes three wives. Well he's
Speaker 3: first two. He takes or from the Canaanite tribes, which
Speaker 3: they were commanded not to take from because they were
Speaker 3: a cursed tribe going back to Ham and Noah, and
Speaker 3: it was spawned out of an incestuous act. And the
Speaker 3: tribes he took from were Whrites and Heates. And if
Speaker 3: you ever listened to Gary Wayne, he lays it out,
Speaker 3: you know, very detai hell. These were known giant clans
Speaker 3: and it says his father in law was Sierra and
Speaker 3: they dwelled in the wilderness around Mount Sierra and Hebrew
Speaker 3: that word Sierra means Harry. So you have this harry
Speaker 3: quote unquote man breeding with giant clans you want to
Speaker 3: you know, you have a very high probability of throwing
Speaker 3: some strange pups. And then if that wasn't enough, he
Speaker 3: then takes a wife from Ishmael. So, if you know
Speaker 3: your Bible history, Ishmael was the first born son of Abraham,
Speaker 3: he was supposed to get the birth right. Well, then
Speaker 3: Sarah miraculously gets pregnant and has his mother and Isaac
Speaker 3: basically threw out into the wilderness to fend for themselves.
Speaker 3: So here with Isaac marrying into the family of Ishmael,
Speaker 3: you have the owing together of the two elder brothers
Speaker 3: that were both disinherited. So you can imagine the hatred
Speaker 3: that was bred in that union, and all your Islamic
Speaker 3: nations and people that just won't you know, God's people
Speaker 3: wiped off the face of the earth all trace their
Speaker 3: genealogies back to Ishmael.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 3: See, yeah, we're all over mmm.
Speaker 2: Still happening, probably way more than we realized because they've
Speaker 2: confused history and hidden everything. So most of us don't
Speaker 2: even know our history, except maybe if we took a
Speaker 2: spit test. And that's only if they want to play nice.
Speaker 2: Like if they did find anything, and they do know anything,
Speaker 2: they're gonna hide that. I mean, look who's over it.
Speaker 2: That's all I have to say.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah. And one of the fascinating things that
Speaker 3: this is probably for me was the wildest I mean
Speaker 3: it was it was wild. I'll learning all this stuff
Speaker 3: and seeing how it all just fit together. But here
Speaker 3: he married into these giant clans that were in the wilderness.
Speaker 3: And when we have Moses leading its people out in Exodus,
Speaker 3: in the Exos through Deuteronomy and Leviticus, that's the wilderness
Speaker 3: wandering times. And there's where you get all your laws.
Speaker 3: You know, do not do this, do not do that.
Speaker 3: And once again, like we said earlier, you don't make
Speaker 3: up a law or a rule unless you are seeing
Speaker 3: it and someone else is doing it. And if we
Speaker 3: look at those I think it's telling of the people
Speaker 3: that they encountered. So what's it say? It says, do
Speaker 3: not drink the blood. The blood is in the life
Speaker 3: for us. Do not pass your children through the fires
Speaker 3: the molek. Do not seek necromancers, do not seek mediums.
Speaker 3: No longer will you sacrifice your children to harry goat demons,
Speaker 3: then you have the day of atonement, the Azazel goat
Speaker 3: that they cast their sins upon. And who's the first
Speaker 3: tribe that they're documented to see and this tribe that
Speaker 3: sees them attacks them. It's the Amalekites. Well, their name
Speaker 3: means blood liquors. And when you go to the genealogies,
Speaker 3: you know this tribe was named after a Malik, and
Speaker 3: a Malik was Esau's nephew from this marriage of the Horites.
Speaker 3: So it's my opinion. You know, it says that this
Speaker 3: was the first tribe they encountered, and they fought, they
Speaker 3: attacked them from behind. I think they were God's people
Speaker 3: were seeing these people and their name means blood liquor,
Speaker 3: and they were commanded to not drink the blood. I
Speaker 3: think that, you know, not seek necromancers and sorcerers, don't
Speaker 3: sack to harry goat demons, don't pass your children through
Speaker 3: the fire. That's because they were having encounters and seeing
Speaker 3: these people, and that's what they were doing. They were
Speaker 3: sacrificing children, they were drinking blood. They were sorcerers. The
Speaker 3: ancient medieval rabbi Rashi, he's translated the targums and wrote
Speaker 3: commentaries and stuff, and he says that when the Bible
Speaker 3: says to kill every man, woman, and child and not
Speaker 3: even spare the animals, it is because they were known
Speaker 3: sorcerers and that they would shape shift into animals to
Speaker 3: avoid capture, and that's why he told them to do that.
Speaker 3: So that's why, I mean, God's people were seeing this
Speaker 3: tribe of harry giants doing all these things. And like,
Speaker 3: I keep mentioning these common themes because that's why I
Speaker 3: think they all draw their origin from. When you go
Speaker 3: to Sardinia, they have this tradition with the they call
Speaker 3: them the Mathones or the Methanes. During the winter solstice,
Speaker 3: they would take goats fur and put on them and
Speaker 3: then put bells on their back and shoulders, and they
Speaker 3: stampede to the town and they dance and shake the bells,
Speaker 3: and then they grab and abduct women from the crowd.
Speaker 3: And during the same time, the children that are coming
Speaker 3: of age, they lit a huge bonfire and these kids
Speaker 3: have to pass through the fire.
Speaker 2: Mm. That's wild. That's I mean, it's everywhere, and I
Speaker 2: mean it can't not mean anything. Like all of these
Speaker 2: dots connecting are just you know, that's fantastic. You've done
Speaker 2: a great job on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was back here with like three cigarettes and
Speaker 3: the board with the red yarn the string.
Speaker 2: I know that. Well. I was gonna tell you a
Speaker 2: fun little fact. It's off hand and it could be anybody,
Speaker 2: but I don't think most people would name their kid this. Okay,
Speaker 2: but Joseph Smith's grandpa, not his father, was named Ozzie
Speaker 2: L as a E. L. And I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 2: think that normal people, out of a normal line would
Speaker 2: name their kid that. That just seems like everybody knows
Speaker 2: about these stories for how long, you know? Yeah, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, just pull that out of nowhere. Let's
Speaker 2: get real. Yeah, I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 3: Joseph Smith definitely had an encounter, but I don't think
Speaker 3: it was a jail.
Speaker 2: I think it was the fallen Angel. I think it
Speaker 2: lied to him. And you know, I've told this and
Speaker 2: I'd be happy to come and show you my presentation sometime.
Speaker 2: But every religion that almost every religion will say almost
Speaker 2: that I cover. It's like, you know, they have this
Speaker 2: fit of darkness, they wake up and then some entity
Speaker 2: or angel or whatever tells them to write a book
Speaker 2: and the book becomes a religion. This happens to Crowley,
Speaker 2: This happens to Joseph Smith, this happens to Mohammed. This
Speaker 2: happens to a whole bunch of people. This isn't just one.
Speaker 2: So when you look at that, you've got to say, well,
Speaker 2: something's going on here. Jack Parsons too, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: they're not pulling this stuff. They're not. They didn't know
Speaker 2: each other. They're in different time frames completely. Crowley was
Speaker 2: obsessed with Joseph Smith, and that makes me even know
Speaker 2: it's more true, you know, like call yeah, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 3: Like I'd love to have you on the show, and
Speaker 3: I'd love to account.
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear yeah, yeah, I'm we'll definitely book that.
Speaker 2: As soon as you're done with your dinner tonight, shoot
Speaker 2: me some dates because I'm down. Yeah, I'd love to
Speaker 2: come show it. Yes, you bet, I love it. We
Speaker 2: got to get the truth out there so people can
Speaker 2: learn because like I might have something you don't have.
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's all puzzle pieces, right, like.
Speaker 3: We don't know even pretend to be righteous, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's great if other people learn it. But
Speaker 3: I'm I'm selfish. I want to know myself.
Speaker 2: There you go, there we go, and this is just fantastic.
Speaker 2: I think the work you've done here could show people
Speaker 2: truly like because if you hear about sasquatch right, you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it's one of those conspiracy theories that
Speaker 2: you either know this or you go this is they're crazy.
Speaker 2: Like just walk away, you know, because it sounds crazy,
Speaker 2: but not when you present it in a proper way, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a real thing.
Speaker 3: So yeah. In the book Enochs, you know, it says
Speaker 3: that demons are the distance body disembodied spirits of the Nephilum. Yes, so,
Speaker 3: and all these sasquatches all of a sudden the footprints
Speaker 3: footprints disappear, and people say they're going in and out
Speaker 3: of portals. They do the mind speak. And then there's
Speaker 3: also UFO sidings sometimes associated with it. You know, you
Speaker 3: have all the wu. Well, if these are from the
Speaker 3: u of Esau interbreeding with giants, and these are nephelim,
Speaker 3: you know blood when they died, their spirits roamed the
Speaker 3: earth and through some maybe some help, through some the
Speaker 3: rulers or principalities that are still ruling over the nations now,
Speaker 3: I believe from Deuteronomy thirty two, those rebellious sons. You know,
Speaker 3: maybe these UFOs are the craft and that's their way
Speaker 3: of conveyance, and they are helping their progeny. And that's
Speaker 3: maybe why you see him always hand in hand a
Speaker 3: lot of times.
Speaker 2: And they can tell you for.
Speaker 3: You know, if they want big strong Harryman walking the earth,
Speaker 3: they would want to choose a form that's familiar to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. Well, And plus, I mean, I've known some
Speaker 2: people that are not woo woo in my life at all.
Speaker 2: Like my uncle is is Airborne Greenbery. He's out now,
Speaker 2: he's retired. He did like I don't even know how
Speaker 2: many tours and presidential he was up there. Man, he
Speaker 2: was top top and he's not one of these woo
Speaker 2: woo kind of guys. And so we go camping with
Speaker 2: him sometimes. And last year I said, all right, come on,
Speaker 2: tell me the weirdest thing you've ever seen. And I'm
Speaker 2: expecting something not not paranormal, right, because he's not like
Speaker 2: that at all. He's very.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: He flat told me I seen a sasquatch. He's like,
Speaker 2: I wasn't even at work. I was out hunting in
Speaker 2: the middle of like I can't remember, it was like
Speaker 2: Tennessee or somewhere mid I can find out. And he
Speaker 2: told me, and I was like nah. And he's like, Heidi,
Speaker 2: I mean with my job, I'm telling you, I can
Speaker 2: shoot things with pretty good clarity. I mean, he's like,
Speaker 2: I do secret missions and stuff and I couldn't catch
Speaker 2: it and I couldn't get it. He's like, there's no
Speaker 2: way that thing was real, like normal human real, you know,
Speaker 2: like he swears, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Now, there's too many stories, man, And I love how
Speaker 3: Mike said one time, he said, yeah, you hear a
Speaker 3: lot of stories, and some of them sound fanatical, you know,
Speaker 3: but there's too many to ignore, and they're too similar
Speaker 3: to ignore. And all it takes is one If one
Speaker 3: story is true, then that busts the paradigm.
Speaker 2: Yes, yep, yep, I agree. Wow, this was great. Is
Speaker 2: there any other stuff that we missed on this?
Speaker 3: Now that that's pretty much yet that there's some little,
Speaker 3: you know, nuggets and tidbits and stuff that I kept
Speaker 3: in the book. But hopefully I sparked enough interest that
Speaker 3: you'll want to check the book out or come listen
Speaker 3: to some other talks and stuff. But I got the
Speaker 3: book finished. I'm just working on trying to get it
Speaker 3: published and get it out there. This is my first book,
Speaker 3: so it's kind of a learning experience for me.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I hope to see it soon out there
Speaker 2: because it sounds like it it's going to be a
Speaker 2: great informational read, you know, just from everything you've gone through,
Speaker 2: and I think this has really really been hashed out. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like like you said you you
Speaker 2: were researching. It's not just some little theory that you
Speaker 2: were like, nuh, that sounds good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right. I have theories and I have speculations, but
Speaker 3: I try my best to let you know up front, hey,
Speaker 3: this is my theory or this is what I think,
Speaker 3: but then i'd give you the context in the scripture
Speaker 3: and my resources why I believe that. So I always
Speaker 3: like to jokingly say their theories, but they're in good company.
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. Well, I can't wait
Speaker 2: for this book to come out and to come on
Speaker 2: and chat with you about wacky Mormons. I call them wacky,
Speaker 2: but they're most my family, so I can't be too harsh.
Speaker 2: I mean, but it exposes the top because just like anything,
Speaker 2: everything at the very tip top is corrupt and there's
Speaker 2: just nothing we can really do other than fight back
Speaker 2: with knowledge. Really, that's at this point what I do anyway,
Speaker 2: So remind everybody where show is one more time, And
Speaker 2: thank you again so much for coming on. This has
Speaker 2: been a pleasure.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you for having me. I enjoy these conversations.
Speaker 3: I enjoy networking and meeting people like you, and because
Speaker 3: that's just that's another information channel that we can share
Speaker 3: with each other and learn and grow and and and
Speaker 3: build our knowledge base and our community base. So it
Speaker 3: was it was a blessing to meet you today, So
Speaker 3: thank you so much for that. And but yeah, guys,
Speaker 3: if you enjoyed the conversation, I'm having conversations like this
Speaker 3: every single week, authors and speakers and researchers. And if
Speaker 3: you like Heidi stuff, you'll probably like my stuff. We're
Speaker 3: in the same vein here, and so all the social
Speaker 3: media is all the places you consume content. You can
Speaker 3: find me there, and it's Prometheus Lynn's podcast. The website
Speaker 3: is Prometheus Lynn's podcast dot com. And I've kind of
Speaker 3: coined it as the Hero's Journey. You know, you have
Speaker 3: to go into the unknown, you have to slay the dragon,
Speaker 3: you have to rescue the damsel, but then you come
Speaker 3: out on the other end as a hero. So each
Speaker 3: show I open up and I tell people, welcome to
Speaker 3: the hero's journey. So I hope to see you guys there.
Speaker 2: Awesome. I love that. I actually love that. And you know,
Speaker 2: we take a lot of bullets, like he was saying earlier,
Speaker 2: please don't come at me, like he was like, hey,
Speaker 2: and we do. You know, this isn't always well received,
Speaker 2: especially he's in something that probably is harsh to digest.
Speaker 2: I'm and stuff that's harsh to digest. It doesn't make
Speaker 2: us less Christian. It just makes us part of God's army.
Speaker 2: And so we're just trying to help people understand some
Speaker 2: of this crat crazy world because it may seem fake
Speaker 2: or just you know, that's Lord of the Ring stuff.
Speaker 2: But where do you think they got their ideas from?
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, a whole nother talk for another day,
Speaker 2: but it's not as crazy as you might think.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So again, I appreciate you. I can't wait to come
Speaker 2: on and chat with you again.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Oh, thank you, And I'll look
Speaker 3: forward to having you on mine.
Speaker 2: Yes, awesome, God bless Let's do it. Oh,