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<v Speaker 1>Let's go Hattie Love in the house, shopping knowledge of

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<v Speaker 1>fact for covering the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody had been left.

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<v Speaker 1>She ain't afraid to speak, a mob breaking through the lies,

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<v Speaker 1>rousing up with Love, taking us the new hot We're

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<v Speaker 1>living in a world full of secrets in the seat,

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<v Speaker 1>but HoTT he's here to exposed, bringing troops to the beast.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got a message, spreading it.

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<v Speaker 1>Far and five from addiction to hope she saw on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of

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<v Speaker 2>The Unfiltered Rice with me Heidi Love, and today I

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<v Speaker 2>have with me an awesome guest. I've been looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to this ever since I heard him on Tinfoil Hat

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<v Speaker 2>Prometheus Ones podcast, Doc Brown, how are you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing good. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you came on. Like I said, when

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<v Speaker 2>we were kind of talking before this started up, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Oh my gosh, the stuff he's talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>it's stinging a bunch of bells. So I was excited

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<v Speaker 2>when you said you had come on so we could

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<v Speaker 2>have a chat about it. And uh, I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be an. I think it'll go some fun places.

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<v Speaker 2>So let people know where to arsh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's always interesting talk to other people and get

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<v Speaker 3>their ideas and kind of cross pollin eight, because I

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<v Speaker 3>mean that's how you learn stuff, that's how you grow.

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<v Speaker 3>We all nobody has it all figured out, so we

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<v Speaker 3>all have pieces and we got to talk to each

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<v Speaker 3>other and see if those pieces fit together or not

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<v Speaker 3>and we can come up with a fuller picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I totally agree on that. And then I was saying,

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<v Speaker 2>let people know one more time at the beginning and

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll do it at the end. Where to find you,

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<v Speaker 2>just in case they can't stay for the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, anywhere you can consume content, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok,

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<v Speaker 3>all those fine establishments, any social media or any place

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<v Speaker 3>where you can consume podcast content. You can find me there.

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<v Speaker 3>Just search up Prometheus Lynn's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect. Well, this is exciting. I'll let you start in.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I just I just think this is a

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right on the money in my personal opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have talked to La before and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're hitting down doors with us. I think you're right

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<v Speaker 2>on the right tracks. So let us let us know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, this is actually this

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<v Speaker 3>all started with this, like as a caddy joke between friends,

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about Bigfoot and just out of no word,

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<v Speaker 3>Genesis twenty five, twenty five popped in my head and

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<v Speaker 3>that's the birth of Esau. And it says that this

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<v Speaker 3>guy was born red and he was covered in hair

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<v Speaker 3>from head to toe like a Harry Cloak. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard people say, oh, no, you know, this is talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the white race. You know, he was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>red skins, you know, And no, this is talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the Romans, you know. Oh no, this is talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the Gentiles. Deal. That was just hyperbole, poetic language. I've

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<v Speaker 3>heard all that stuff. But then when you actually not

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<v Speaker 3>only does it say that, it demonstrates it because when

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<v Speaker 3>you go through and hear the story of Esau, his

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<v Speaker 3>brother Jacob tricks his blind father by taking a goat's

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<v Speaker 3>fur and covering himself with it, and that his father

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<v Speaker 3>feels his arm and feels this hair and says, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's my son Esau, and even makes a comment about

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<v Speaker 3>his smell. He said he smells of the field. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, no, this is not hyperbole, this is not

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<v Speaker 3>poetic language, this is literal.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing. It's his story is busted up

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<v Speaker 3>through all these different manuscripts, and some people you can

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<v Speaker 3>fail to realize that they didn't have a Bible back then.

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<v Speaker 3>They had all these scrolls and they were individual you know,

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<v Speaker 3>stories and testimonies, and they were in circulation. So when

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<v Speaker 3>you get to the sixty six book Cannon, when you

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<v Speaker 3>get things like the Genesis six narrative and Esau, you

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<v Speaker 3>just get little blurbs about them, because, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>they had all these other scrolls, they had all these

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<v Speaker 3>other oral traditions that went into detail about these events

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<v Speaker 3>and these characters. So the writers felt they didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the need to beat a dead horse, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I started going through the Jewish targums and

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<v Speaker 3>reading some of the writings of Rashi and Flavous, Josiphus,

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<v Speaker 3>the Book of Jasher and all these other you know writings,

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<v Speaker 3>all the little puzzle pieces like we talked about, were

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<v Speaker 3>in those books. And when you take them and you

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<v Speaker 3>put them together, it tells a seamless story, I mean pretty,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean an epic journey and story of this guy

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<v Speaker 3>named Esau. And I just once I had it all together,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, this is a very, very wild journey,

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<v Speaker 3>and other people, I think we'd enjoy hearing this. So

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<v Speaker 3>I wrote a book called the Epic of Esau.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. I think it's really great because I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot has been lost, and I think that it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this isn't the only person. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny that people would say, oh, well, he was

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<v Speaker 2>just a blurb or whatever. But yet we've got my

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<v Speaker 2>ex religion being a Mormon. How much is Melchisedec ever mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a whole priesthood on him, like in my church.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a big deal, you know. So I just think,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, I think a lot of stuff has

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<v Speaker 2>been maybe not lost, but lost.

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<v Speaker 3>And even with Melchisedek. Well, I was talking with Doug

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<v Speaker 3>van Dorn on a show and he was talking about how,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the Book of Hebrews it aligns Jesus

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<v Speaker 3>to the order of Melchisedek. And he said that when

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<v Speaker 3>you dig through the original and the oldest writings that

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<v Speaker 3>they have, they have the genealogy of Seth a lot

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<v Speaker 3>shorter than what it is in the current text today.

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<v Speaker 3>And as he got to dig it and find it, out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, the Jewish people don't see Christ as the Messiah,

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<v Speaker 3>so anything that points to that they try to obbuskate

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<v Speaker 3>in a race. And he said that that was his belief,

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<v Speaker 3>that you can look at the oldest texts and see

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<v Speaker 3>all this time was added to the lineage of Seth

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<v Speaker 3>for the sole purpose because the rabbis and stuff. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say that Seth was Malkisedic that popped up in

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<v Speaker 3>front of Abraham, and that's the whole reason why they

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<v Speaker 3>did it. Now that's a you know, that's a conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>That is true. You know, that's not a conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 3>It happened. They added hundreds of years to the life

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<v Speaker 3>of Seth just so they could point away from Christ

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<v Speaker 3>into Seth and say, oh, no, this Seth guy, he

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<v Speaker 3>was the malkiza dec the prince of Salem.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, that's wild. I didn't know that. I knew,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from from my religion. Apparently he popped up

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<v Speaker 2>and bestowed the priest stood back on to Joseph Smith

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<v Speaker 2>and after death, this is how what we're told. And

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<v Speaker 2>I laughed because I'm like, they sure got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff going on with death, but not only that,

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<v Speaker 2>they are one of probably the people that are a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of thorn in the Jewish people's sides, because well,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't own twenty three and Me and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>own ancestry dot com, but they do own FamilySearch dot org,

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<v Speaker 2>which is older than both, and all their records pour

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<v Speaker 2>into that, and they are huge on genealogy. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>they blew out the side of a mountain here about

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<v Speaker 2>an hour away from where I live, and there's three

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<v Speaker 2>point three billion samples of DNA in that mountain and

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like Fort Knox. It's like you can't go

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<v Speaker 2>in it. It looks like it's crazy. I have photos

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and I'm just like, Okay, something's been going

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<v Speaker 2>on with the genealogy lately. Because the day did he

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<v Speaker 2>got arrested, everything on the board, everybody that was on

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<v Speaker 2>the board of twenty three and me quit same day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, makes.

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<v Speaker 2>You wonder, Yeah, makes you wonder. You know, you have

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<v Speaker 2>enough of that happen and you start to go the

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<v Speaker 2>war chickies. Do you know who I'm talking about? The

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<v Speaker 2>lady that she ran YouTube originally and then her sister

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<v Speaker 2>runs twenty three and Me and they had a famous

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Russian dad. But if I'm wrong

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<v Speaker 2>on the background on that, it's fine. But she suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>before that, and then we got the twenty three and

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<v Speaker 2>Me Lady, which is her sister, and everybody just resigns.

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<v Speaker 2>But they say that they found Nimrod's bones, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you know that story. Do you know this?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's whole reason we invaded I.

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<v Speaker 2>Rack, yes, yes, so I'll let you tell that story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty fun. But I think they may know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more than we know.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh definitely, yeah, mm hmm y. What was Hailey Clinton's

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<v Speaker 3>emails splat out asking you know they recovered the body.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so weird that people still have this cognitive dissonance

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<v Speaker 2>on it because I'm like or like on weather modification,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, where you're at right now? For sure? Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just like, okay, you really think that

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<v Speaker 2>just happened like conveniently after they signed that deal? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I kind of don't. But what conspiracy theorists

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<v Speaker 2>and a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of people are just in the dark. You know

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people get caught in their their bubbles

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<v Speaker 3>of going to work, paying their bills, taking their kids

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<v Speaker 3>to the soccer game or the football game, and rent

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<v Speaker 3>and repeat. And that's kind of my design. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>They want you so busy doing the the meaningless things

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<v Speaker 3>that because you don't have time to stop and think

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<v Speaker 3>and look into things and ask intelligent questions. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the whope goes back to the realm, the costum

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<v Speaker 3>and the games. The people are getting too smart, they're

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<v Speaker 3>starting to ask questions. Well, just throw some gladiators and

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<v Speaker 3>tigers in a ring, entertain the people and distract them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you not entertained? Right? It's silly. And and people

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<v Speaker 2>ask me all the time because I still work. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a nurse. I got six kids, two grandkids, they all

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<v Speaker 2>got counterparts. I got all this stuff going on. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, guys, there is time if you make

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to do something, there's time because you

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<v Speaker 2>are where you want to see you. Yeah. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>don't give up, people, Yeah, hop off the rat race.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. It's a good thing to do. So in

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<v Speaker 2>in this writing, this book, you found some really interesting things,

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll continue down this journey. I love it so far.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you came on. That's gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me. Uh. But yeah, so I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I can just kind of lay it out for

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<v Speaker 3>you guys, uh and let you see how this uh

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<v Speaker 3>journey weaves itself in and out because there's there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of twists and turns, and there's gonna be time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm talking about something totally not related to East

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<v Speaker 3>Saw and you're gonna be like, what is going on here?

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<v Speaker 3>This guy's going up on a rabbit trail. No, everything

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<v Speaker 3>I talk about it all ties in and it does.

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<v Speaker 3>It just weaves itself in and out of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>you have the introduction of Esau. But before that, when

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<v Speaker 3>in Genesis twenty five, twenty two and gives a proclamation

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<v Speaker 3>to her and she says, or he says to her,

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<v Speaker 3>the children struggle together within her. So she inquired of

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<v Speaker 3>your womb, and two peoples from within you shall be divided,

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<v Speaker 3>and one shall be stronger than the other. So if

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<v Speaker 3>on Genesis three fifteen in this seed war, and I

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<v Speaker 3>believe that to be a fact. So when we go there,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the fall of Adam and Eve and the curse

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<v Speaker 3>of this serpent. So in verse fourteen, chapter three, it

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<v Speaker 3>done this curse above all livestock and above all beasts

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<v Speaker 3>of the field. On your belly, you shall go dust.

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<v Speaker 3>You shall eat all the days of your life. And

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<v Speaker 3>and you shall bruise his heel. And the man called

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<v Speaker 3>all living. And the Lord God made for Adam and

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<v Speaker 3>his wife garments of skin and clothed them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, garments, yes, yes, you know me. And the garment talk.

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, with them with my old religion with Mormonism,

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<v Speaker 2>they do hold the Malkezidic priesthood and once you hold

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<v Speaker 2>that fort, as a man, you would go through the temple,

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<v Speaker 2>and as a woman you can go. If you serve

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<v Speaker 2>a mission or you're gonna get married, you go and

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<v Speaker 2>you get some garments there, and you wear a shield.

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<v Speaker 2>Before you get the garments, you're naked under it. Well

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<v Speaker 2>they've changed it because people were freaking out, but they

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<v Speaker 2>put on this head poncho basically it's open on the

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<v Speaker 2>sides and you get anointed with oil. Then you get

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<v Speaker 2>these garments. So when you I'm gonna let you take

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<v Speaker 2>over there because it just plugs in so perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so that word nicause just for those it's

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<v Speaker 3>not familiar. And I know this sometimes when I talk

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<v Speaker 3>like everybody knows about my kaser, everybody knows about the nakash. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's might be some new people enter in

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<v Speaker 3>feel it's important to kind of touch on that at least.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that word, you know is nikash that they

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<v Speaker 3>translate in English to so and Mike Eiser. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he's no longer with us, but it was a great scholar.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally recommend you read all of his books, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have the time, at least read The Unseen

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<v Speaker 3>Realm and Reversing Hermand. Those two were just masterpieces. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's a scholar in ancient languages, dead languages. He knows

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<v Speaker 3>his stuff. And he said that the Hebrew language is

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<v Speaker 3>just like any other language. On English, we have one

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<v Speaker 3>word that can have multiple meanings. So we have to

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<v Speaker 3>take each of those meanings and insert them into the

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<v Speaker 3>sentence and the paragraph of the subject that we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about to see which one fits in better. So he

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<v Speaker 3>had said that this word can mean serpent, but can

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<v Speaker 3>also mean the shining one or the one who practices

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<v Speaker 3>divin nation. And in his book The Unseen Realm, he

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<v Speaker 3>poses the question, well, what makes more sense a talking

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<v Speaker 3>snake or a divine being on God's holy mountain, a

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<v Speaker 3>member of the divine council that revailed and it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is actually yeah, yeah, this is a story. In Mormonism,

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<v Speaker 2>they totally believe, and in fact they call God Eloheen,

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<v Speaker 2>which they don't really know. That's like a title, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I think they got some of it, but like

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<v Speaker 2>it gets weird. But they believe this whole story about

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<v Speaker 2>Lucifer was Jesus's brother and he had this fall after

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<v Speaker 2>the war in heaven. They did add a part. And

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<v Speaker 2>I find this interesting and I kind of wonder sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>that if it has to do with Esau's coloring or not,

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<v Speaker 2>but or maybe another they say Kane as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>they they say that the people that are black, specifically black,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with brown people, were the people in

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<v Speaker 2>Heaven that were watchers that were watching the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>happen and did nothing. So they were cursed with the

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<v Speaker 2>skin of blackness for the rest of their life. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I mean it makes it worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And when you look into for Masonry too, you

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<v Speaker 3>know they were a racist organization. It wasn't till late

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<v Speaker 3>late late in the you know, after they're forming that

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<v Speaker 3>they allowed blacks. But even then they weren't allowed in

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<v Speaker 3>the general population with the other you know, blue collars.

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<v Speaker 3>They had their own. It was segregated, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And same for Marmons till nineteen seventy eight, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>long you know, that's not that long ago that I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was alive then, so weird. Yeah yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 3>In there we have these garments you know, that are given.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I want to draw attention to if people

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<v Speaker 3>didn't notice with Esau it said, two peoples are in

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<v Speaker 3>your womb, you know, two nations, two peoples, and they

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<v Speaker 3>will be an enity, and they struggle together and fight

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<v Speaker 3>in the womb. And then you come here to Genesis three,

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<v Speaker 3>it says plainly that the serpent will have a seed

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<v Speaker 3>and the woman will have a seed, and they will

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<v Speaker 3>be at mtity with each other. So yes, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Hebrew scholars and the rabbis, they have this

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<v Speaker 3>thing called the law first mentioned, you know, if because

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of this stuff was read out loud in

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<v Speaker 3>the Hebrew, so a lot of people didn't know how

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, read the text or had access to them.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the synagogues they would get together and they

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<v Speaker 3>would read and when they use these words, they would

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<v Speaker 3>pick them, you know, with intention to draw people's minds

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<v Speaker 3>back to the first time they heard that, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was like a word association type thing. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>something that's not that I pulled out in my back pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>This is something scholars and Jewish rabbis and all you know,

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<v Speaker 3>are in agreement on So I think that's what they

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<v Speaker 3>were trying to do there with that scenario. But with

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<v Speaker 3>these garments, when we get down into verse twenty, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it says that God made them garments and skins, with

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<v Speaker 3>skins and cloth them. Well, in Hebrew word for cloths

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<v Speaker 3>is he'll bish, so he he'll bishes Adam's nakedness with

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<v Speaker 3>a connonit. And in Hebrew in this instance it's translated

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<v Speaker 3>as a tunic or no, I'm sorry, and this one

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<v Speaker 3>is it's cloth. But ninety percent of the time this

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<v Speaker 3>very same word is translated as a tunic. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>when we go through Exodus twenty nine, in chapter twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>how to make the priestly epod and you know, how

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<v Speaker 3>to put it on how to conduct themselves before entering

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<v Speaker 3>the temple, and all those instructions. Well, once again we

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<v Speaker 3>have this law first mentioned coming into play because it

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<v Speaker 3>uses those same exact two words from Genesis three. So

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<v Speaker 3>when it describes these garments for these priests, it says

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<v Speaker 3>that it is to he'll bish their naked goodness. It

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<v Speaker 3>is to cover their nakedness. And when you talk to

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<v Speaker 3>the rabbis or any Jewish person, they all agree that

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<v Speaker 3>they all trace their lineages and their origin point for

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<v Speaker 3>the priesthood back to Adam. That Adam was the first

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<v Speaker 3>king and high priest of creation of the human races

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<v Speaker 3>of earth. So that's another thing that's commonly accepted. So

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<v Speaker 3>when we get to Ezekiel twenty eight, that's when we

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<v Speaker 3>see another description of these garments, and this is a

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<v Speaker 3>condemnation to the King of Tire, and you can clearly see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it even says out right, you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>is to the King of Tire. Well, little backstory. Tire

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<v Speaker 3>was the Phoenicians. These were the Canaanite. You know, they

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<v Speaker 3>had Nephlum giants in their their lineages, passed their children

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<v Speaker 3>through the fire, and done all this wicked stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>halfway through the wording of it changes and it's no

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<v Speaker 3>longer talking to the King of Tire, but it's talking

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<v Speaker 3>to the spiritual entity that is pulling the strings behind

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<v Speaker 3>this leader. It's this whole Deuteronomy thirty two worldview. These

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<v Speaker 3>rebellious sons of God that rule over the nations, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're you know, ruling through these earthly kings, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like conduits, right, And how you know this

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<v Speaker 3>is because just some of the wording here. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it says that you were in the garden of God. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the King of Tyre was not in the garden of God.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it says you were perfect in all your

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<v Speaker 3>ways and beautiful, you know, and perfect in all your

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<v Speaker 3>ways until unrighteousness was found in you, and you were

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<v Speaker 3>an anointed guardian Cherub. So clearly he's no longer talking

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<v Speaker 3>to this king, but down through there you get these

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<v Speaker 3>description of his beautiful garments and his cover rings. So

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<v Speaker 3>in verse thirteen of Ezekiel twenty eight, it says, you

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<v Speaker 3>know you were in Eden, the garden of God. Every

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<v Speaker 3>precious stone was your covering sortiest topaz, diamond, barrel, onyx jasper, sapphire, emerald, carbuncle,

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<v Speaker 3>and crafted and gold was your settings and your engravings.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you were an annointed guardian cherryb amongst the

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<v Speaker 3>stones of fire you walked. And it even goes on

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<v Speaker 3>and says that you profaned your sanctuaries and I cast

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<v Speaker 3>you as a profane thing from the mountain of God.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Satan. This is the nakash that he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>And how funny when you take the description of the

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<v Speaker 3>clothing that he was wearing, it even fits the description

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<v Speaker 3>of his name. He would certainly be the shining one

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<v Speaker 3>with all these colored stones and the gold inlays and

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff, and it sounds identical to the priestly

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<v Speaker 3>e Fod.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so wild. Another thing in the Marmon Temple ceremony

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people won't talk about is there's a

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<v Speaker 2>point in the ceremony because it's a play where we

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<v Speaker 2>are standing, asked to stand, and they're doing this play

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<v Speaker 2>in front of us, and Lucifer comes and he says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Adam's praying and he's sorry, and they've already rebelled,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's crying out for the god of this world.

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<v Speaker 2>And who does show up. It's Lucifer. It's not God

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<v Speaker 2>at that time. And he says, you need to cover

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and we'll make you some fig leaves, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, and this is how because God's going

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<v Speaker 2>to know you sinned. And so he says, oh okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So then everybody stands up and we do what Satan

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<v Speaker 2>says with this green fig leaf apron, and we all

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<v Speaker 2>do what Lucifer says, and put it on. And also

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<v Speaker 2>Adam says to him, well, he's wearing a black one,

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<v Speaker 2>but it used to be a Masonic one. And he says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's yours, and he said, it's a sign of my

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<v Speaker 2>priest to and powers. Very interesting to go with.

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<v Speaker 3>This, I thought, yeah, And that's wild is because this

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<v Speaker 3>to go into was something that I just came up

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<v Speaker 3>with on my own after reading these and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>seeing where it was pointing, and just formed a theory.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's pretty wid you right on something

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<v Speaker 3>that you know that that this is something someone else

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<v Speaker 3>had already talked about or found out. So and I

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<v Speaker 3>say that because a lot of times, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>hear stories and you kind of blend them to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your theories or Adam in this this was just something

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<v Speaker 3>by reading those verses I told you and kind of

415
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<v Speaker 3>formulated this idea. So with that, I say, what if

416
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<v Speaker 3>according to these texts, here Satan wearing this priestly e

417
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<v Speaker 3>foud It says he has a sanctuary all those things

418
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<v Speaker 3>I just talked about. That's when Satan was cursed and

419
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<v Speaker 3>cast from the Mountain of God. He was demoted, he

420
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<v Speaker 3>was no longer he defiled his sanctuaries. According to his

421
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<v Speaker 3>equal twenty eight that his garments were removed and they

422
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<v Speaker 3>were given to Adam and Eve. And this is why

423
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<v Speaker 3>the Rabbis traced their lineages back to Adam being the

424
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<v Speaker 3>first king and priest of creation. And so if you

425
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<v Speaker 3>think of Satan full of pride, you know, beautiful, it said,

426
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<v Speaker 3>perfect in all these ways until unrighteousness was found in him.

427
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<v Speaker 3>And wearing this, you know, multicolored stone covering with gold

428
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<v Speaker 3>and lays and all this stuff. This was the symbol,

429
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<v Speaker 3>the status, symbol of his pride. It was something he

430
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<v Speaker 3>wore with pride. Now that once symbol of pride is

431
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<v Speaker 3>a constant reminder of his shame and of his downfall,

432
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<v Speaker 3>seeing it on his younger brother. If you take that

433
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<v Speaker 3>viewpoint that we are all God's children. According to Job,

434
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<v Speaker 3>the angelic race was there at the beginning. God says

435
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<v Speaker 3>to Job, where were you when I hung the stars

436
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:09.400
<v Speaker 3>and done this and done that and laid its foundations,

437
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<v Speaker 3>when the morning stars the sons of God saying for

438
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<v Speaker 3>joy at the side of creation. And we were the

439
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:19.519
<v Speaker 3>younger brothers that came later, I think when we look

440
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<v Speaker 3>at the parable of the prodigal Son, Yeah, I mean

441
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<v Speaker 3>there is surface level meanings, but scriptures, like an onion,

442
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:28.359
<v Speaker 3>you peel it back, there's multiple layers, and I think

443
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<v Speaker 3>that's what it's pointing to is the older brother that

444
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<v Speaker 3>never left is the angelic race. The younger brother that

445
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:39.640
<v Speaker 3>wanted his inheritance now and squandered it away enrolled in

446
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<v Speaker 3>that the pig excrement came back home and his father

447
00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 3>welcomed him with loving arms, and the older brother was

448
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<v Speaker 3>jealous and upset. And this is the story of the

449
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 3>family of God and our elder brothers, the angelic race.

450
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<v Speaker 3>So that alone, you know what would make Satan hate you.

451
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<v Speaker 3>He tried to trick you and make you look like

452
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<v Speaker 3>an idiot, but instead you were exalted to the high

453
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<v Speaker 3>position and he was cast down.

454
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think you're very right, and I think that

455
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<v Speaker 2>it's not just Lucifer from what I hear. Now, I

456
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<v Speaker 2>don't I'm not a practitioner of magic, but I'm sure

457
00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 2>to study the occult a lot because it has answers.

458
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I get a lot of pushback from that in the

459
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Christian community, but that's just it is what it is.

460
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have people on that talk about that

461
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:35.319
<v Speaker 2>because there's answers in opposition, and sure you have faces. Yeah, yeah,

462
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:38.359
<v Speaker 2>sure enough. They talk about this very thing, you know that,

463
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.400
<v Speaker 2>even the Jewish people. I talk to a guy that's

464
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<v Speaker 2>an esoteric studies and he's a doctor of that. His

465
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:47.759
<v Speaker 2>wife's a rabbi. He said, any day of the week,

466
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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather deal with a demon than an angel because

467
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<v Speaker 2>they are known to be really militant and they do

468
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<v Speaker 2>not care. And so I don't know, I don't know

469
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<v Speaker 2>it's true, you know, yeah, it's interesting.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So with that bunny trail, you know, I said,

471
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:07.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, this was all gonna you know, weave in together.

472
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.720
<v Speaker 3>So if we come back to Esau and we have

473
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<v Speaker 3>the birth of Esau, and I kind of touched on

474
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 3>that at the beginning. It said to you know, he

475
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<v Speaker 3>come out red, covered in hair, had to toe like

476
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 3>a Harry Cloak. Well then it goes on to say

477
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 3>that he came out first and his brother Jacob come

478
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 3>out holding Esau's heel. So, if what I was saying

479
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 3>is correct, and God gave this proclamation, this prophecy, that

480
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 3>the two seeds would be at enmity with one another,

481
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.079
<v Speaker 3>and one would crush the head and the other would

482
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:46.319
<v Speaker 3>bruise the heel. If Esau was a serpent seed, it

483
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>looks pretty picture perfect here that the Hacaiton stepped in

484
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 3>and maybe flipped them around in the womb, because it's

485
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.759
<v Speaker 3>an exact inversion and opposite, and that's what Satan's known

486
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 3>to do, pervert the things of God. So Esau, his

487
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.880
<v Speaker 3>seed comes out first with his foot pushing and pressing

488
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.200
<v Speaker 3>on the head of Jacob to exit the womb. But

489
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:19.079
<v Speaker 3>Jacob is bruising the heel by holding the heill. So

490
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 3>once again, I think it points back to Genesis three fifteen,

491
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 3>and I think the writers were trying to show you

492
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.839
<v Speaker 3>that whether it's true, right, wrong, in different whatever, but

493
00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 3>that's I think that's what they believed. And when you

494
00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:39.599
<v Speaker 3>look into the targums, the targums talk about the birth

495
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 3>of these twins and the conception. It says that when

496
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Rebecca would walk by a pagan home who worshiped other gods,

497
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 3>that Esau would stir and get excited in the womb.

498
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 3>And then it said when she would walk by a

499
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 3>house to the Lord to Yahueh, that Jay would stir.

500
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 3>So they were pointing to these two types of people

501
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>and you know their their origins, I believe, and even

502
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Flavus Josephus, when you read his writings, I think he

503
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, he was a smart man and he chose

504
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:21.279
<v Speaker 3>his words wisely. When he describes the conflict between these

505
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:27.720
<v Speaker 3>two brothers, he chooses the word enmity. So once again

506
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:31.599
<v Speaker 3>he's pointing back to Genesis three fifteen and the idea

507
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:33.799
<v Speaker 3>of Esau being a serpent seed.

508
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Because it makes a lot more sense too if the

509
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 2>sin is goes clear back right, if we go back

510
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:47.799
<v Speaker 2>to Eve and those twins with keenan Abel. You know,

511
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>people don't want to this is like a hard thing

512
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.359
<v Speaker 2>to explain to people. But when you say that she

513
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>probably knew, you know, this shining one and he was

514
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 2>beautiful and blah blah blah and all the things that

515
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>that enteils. I mean a lot of people, you know,

516
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>figure that that's when it happened, right, And you can't

517
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 2>carry twins in your in your belly from two different

518
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 2>men even as a human, you know, being let alone

519
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>if you have how some.

520
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 3>People get tore up. You know when you say that,

521
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>you know because they're like no scripture says that Adam

522
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:23.440
<v Speaker 3>laid with Eve and then conceived these kids. Yeah, it

523
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 3>does say that. But at the same time, now with

524
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 3>this being said, I don't want the Pharisees and the

525
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Karens to light the torches and come after me with pitchforks.

526
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.559
<v Speaker 3>I believe the Bible is the divine inspired word of God,

527
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.279
<v Speaker 3>and I believe God protected the overall arching themes and

528
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.319
<v Speaker 3>the important things because He is capable of that and

529
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 3>he loves us that much. But we do clearly see,

530
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 3>if we are honest, when we look at some of

531
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 3>the older manuscripts, there's stuff's been changed, stuff's been taken away,

532
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 3>stuff's been added. One of my favorite stories of Jesus

533
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.119
<v Speaker 3>with the prostitute or the woman that committed adult try

534
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:08.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, those without seeing cast the first own. When

535
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>you look into the oldest manuscripts, that story is not there.

536
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's either someone added it and it could have

537
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 3>very well been an oral tradition or a story that

538
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>was traveling around that a later scribe, you know, added

539
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 3>it in because it truly happened, and it's just somebody

540
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.319
<v Speaker 3>left it out here. He decided to add it. We

541
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:35.240
<v Speaker 3>look in the Old Testament where it says that David,

542
00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, sinned against the Lord by completing this census. Well,

543
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.200
<v Speaker 3>in the first telling it says that God Yahweh tempts

544
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:47.359
<v Speaker 3>David to do this census. Well, then you get the

545
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 3>retelling of it in the Book of Kings and it's changed,

546
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 3>and this is in your Bible today. You can go

547
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>and look and it says no longer it says Yahweh

548
00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:01.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't tempt him. It says the Hasitan tempted David. So

549
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:04.319
<v Speaker 3>it's like good intentions. It wasn't nothing the fairest. I

550
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>believe that the scribe that was retelling this story was

551
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.680
<v Speaker 3>just like man that makes y'a always look bad, I'm

552
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.400
<v Speaker 3>gonna protect him. I'm going to fix this and make

553
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 3>God look good. So it's like, you know, how pompous

554
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 3>of man that we think God needs protecting and we

555
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:24.559
<v Speaker 3>need to do these things. So you know, it could

556
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 3>have been that, you know, this was a later added

557
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:31.799
<v Speaker 3>thing to try to protect and clean up the genealogies,

558
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 3>because you know, Eve was the mother of all living

559
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, if Christ, you know, came from these lineages,

560
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, we've got to have pure and good looking genealogies.

561
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 3>But when you look through the traditions of the Jewish people.

562
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:53.119
<v Speaker 3>They all pointed toward this idea. And but at the

563
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:59.759
<v Speaker 3>same time, that's why you see Kane doing these evil things.

564
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 3>And his name means acquired and even the actions of

565
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 3>the cursing. And I never thought of this till I

566
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 3>talked to doctor Joy Pugh on the show, and she said,

567
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, old Mosaic law was eye for an eye,

568
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 3>too for a tooth. She said, if eve ate this

569
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 3>apple that she was not supposed to eat, her cursing

570
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 3>could have been, you know, an upset stomach, diarrhea, you know,

571
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 3>or something like that that involved her mouth or her stomach.

572
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 3>And she said, And if your mother tells you not

573
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 3>to get into the cookie jar and she walks out

574
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 3>of the room, and you get into that cookie jar

575
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 3>and start to eat, and she walks in and catches you,

576
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:45.400
<v Speaker 3>what are you gonna do. You're gonna cover your mouth

577
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 3>because that's where you committed the sin or the wrong.

578
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>She said. So as soon as they partake of this tree,

579
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 3>what do they do? They sew up their these big

580
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 3>leaves and try to cover their private parts. That has

581
00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with eating. Why would they suddenly cover

582
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 3>their private parts?

583
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they wouldn't know.

584
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it could have been very well been a

585
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 3>sexual sin, and then the curse was to labor, you know, childbirth.

586
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 3>It was gonna be excruciatingly painful. And then it comes

587
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 3>out and puts a curse between her seed and his seed.

588
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, me with good old boy logic, all that

589
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of points to that. But I'm not dogmatic about it. It

590
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 3>could be in spiritual seed, you know what I.

591
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:33.679
<v Speaker 2>Mean, or it could be messed with those you know,

592
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 2>it still could be an actual seed and be manipulated

593
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 2>in utero, right, like we don't know. I mean, these

594
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 2>things can happen. But I do find it interesting because

595
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:45.280
<v Speaker 2>you bring up like a lot about the Jews, and

596
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.639
<v Speaker 2>they have a whole nother story with Lilith too, and

597
00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a whole other rabbit hole that I don't even know,

598
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, how that fits with this, But like they

599
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:55.039
<v Speaker 2>know a lot more than.

600
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 3>We do, honestly, you know, all the common Like I

601
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 3>love looking at comparative mythology, the whole two different twins,

602
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 3>one being divine, one being not is a common theme.

603
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you look at the story of Hercules,

604
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 3>A lot of people don't realize that Hercules had a

605
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 3>twin and his other twin was completely human, nothing special

606
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:20.199
<v Speaker 3>about him. But the story goes is that the husband

607
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 3>laid with the Hercules's mother and conceived, but then Zeus

608
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:30.400
<v Speaker 3>comes down and conceives again. That's a double pregnancy to

609
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 3>different fathers.

610
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>And which can happen to this day. You guys, I'm

611
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 2>a registered nurse. I'm telling you it happens. We've delivered

612
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 2>black and white kids from the same mom so, so.

613
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what it's kind of pointing to. But

614
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 3>once we get to that, the famous story that everybody

615
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 3>remembers him for is the trading of the birthright. And

616
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>right away when I read that as a kid, I

617
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:59.559
<v Speaker 3>was like, this makes no sense to me, because the

618
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Jewish custom was is the eldest son got the farm

619
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 3>and the younger son served the older brother. So in

620
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 3>this story, just in the Book of Genesis, it says

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<v Speaker 3>that Esau comes in from the field exhausted. Jacob's making

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<v Speaker 3>some red stew and he says, give me some of

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<v Speaker 3>that red stew, and Jacob says, trade me your birthright,

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<v Speaker 3>and he says, ah, sure, And then Jacob's like, no,

625
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<v Speaker 3>promise me, you'll do this thing, now, promise me, you know,

626
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<v Speaker 3>like he's you know, concerned or pressing on him. And

627
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<v Speaker 3>then Esau's like, fine, take it. I'm about to die.

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<v Speaker 3>What use is a birthright to me? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of melodramatic. And you know, it's like your

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<v Speaker 3>dad is Donald Trump and you're about to inherit the

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<v Speaker 3>millions of dollars and you come in one day and

632
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<v Speaker 3>your little brother eating a bag of Dorito's on the

633
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<v Speaker 3>couch and you're like, hey man, let me have some

634
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.480
<v Speaker 3>of those Trideau's. Yeah, sign over the company, bro, they're yours.

635
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<v Speaker 3>That would never happen. But once you get into these

636
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:13.599
<v Speaker 3>extra biblical books, they fill in some of the gaps.

637
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<v Speaker 3>And I tell people, you know, doctor Michael Hiser, I

638
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<v Speaker 3>take his standpoint as far as these extra biblical books

639
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 3>like the First Book of Enoch, the Book of the

640
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<v Speaker 3>Watchers and Jasher and Jubileeze and all these others. You know,

641
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 3>something doesn't have to be divine inspired to be important.

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<v Speaker 3>We can read these things for cultural context, historical context,

643
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 3>and see how these people lived, how they thought, because

644
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.719
<v Speaker 3>these are writings that they read and were familiar with,

645
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<v Speaker 3>and they shape their thoughts in their daily life. And

646
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 3>some of this stuff you can read and it does

647
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>it just sounds ridiculous, and some of it's easy to

648
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 3>separate the draws, you know, but it's one of those things.

649
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 3>It's like the puzzle pieces. You don't have to agree

650
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<v Speaker 3>with somebody one percent to be able to pull some

651
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:06.559
<v Speaker 3>truth from that person. And we need to treat these

652
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 3>texts the same way. So when I read them, I

653
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<v Speaker 3>compare them to scripture and see how they fit into

654
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<v Speaker 3>the narrative of scripture. And if they don't contradict and

655
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<v Speaker 3>they're not, you know, blasphemous, and they fit right in, Hey,

656
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 3>I'll take that piece and add it to my arsenal.

657
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's what we all need to do.

658
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<v Speaker 2>But the way they came out of the books anyway,

659
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:32.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is men fiddling with things that were

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<v Speaker 2>not men. Like this was a book that was put

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<v Speaker 2>together and that's great, you know, divinely, yes, but it

662
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.519
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean they didn't make it, you know, look good

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<v Speaker 2>to them, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And here's what I mean. Yeah, this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>is the divine inspired word of God. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, it's God chose men as the conduit and

667
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.599
<v Speaker 3>men are known to make mistakes, were known to be prideful,

668
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 3>and to lie and do things, and even with good intentions,

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<v Speaker 3>try to help and protect God, you know, and muddy

670
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<v Speaker 3>up the waters. And I think you know that that's

671
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<v Speaker 3>something we have to take into consideration. And one thing

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00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 3>I missed earlier is you see throughout scripture the warnings

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<v Speaker 3>cursed is the man who adds or takes away from

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<v Speaker 3>from these words. So therefore that nobody makes a rule

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<v Speaker 3>up or gives a warning if something like that has

676
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:35.119
<v Speaker 3>not already happened or currently happening. Because if it was

677
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<v Speaker 3>not possible to change the word of God and manipulate it,

678
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<v Speaker 3>why give that warning it that warning has.

679
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<v Speaker 2>No teeth, right, Yeah, that makes sense.

680
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So when we have this, and like I said,

681
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<v Speaker 3>I started looking at some of these other books, and

682
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.559
<v Speaker 3>when you get into the book of Jashure, that fills

683
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<v Speaker 3>in so much more context and it opens up a

684
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 3>whole nother rabbit trail to in the Bible, and that

685
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 3>really kind of blew me away. So when you get

686
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<v Speaker 3>to Jasher, and it's in chapter twenty seven, it says

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<v Speaker 3>Esau at that time, after the death of Abraham frequently

688
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<v Speaker 3>went into the field to hunt, and Nimrod, king of

689
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<v Speaker 3>Bible the same was Amfriel also frequently went with his

690
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<v Speaker 3>mighty men to hunt in the field and walk about

691
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:29.679
<v Speaker 3>with his men in the cool of day. And Nimrod

692
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<v Speaker 3>was observing Esau all of his days, for a jealousy

693
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<v Speaker 3>was formed in the heart of Nimrod against Esau all

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<v Speaker 3>of his days. And on a certain day, Esau went

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<v Speaker 3>into the field to hunt, and he found Nimrod walking

696
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<v Speaker 3>in the wilderness with his two men, and all of

697
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.320
<v Speaker 3>his mighty men and his people were with him in

698
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 3>the wilderness, but they removed at a distance from him,

699
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<v Speaker 3>and they went from him in a different direction to hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>And Esau concealed himself from Nimrod, and he lurked for

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<v Speaker 3>him in the wilderness, and Nimrod and his men that

702
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 3>were with him did not know him. And Nimrod and

703
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:13.280
<v Speaker 3>his men frequently walked about in the field of the

704
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 3>cool of the day, and to know where his men

705
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.199
<v Speaker 3>were hunting in the field. And Nimrod and his two

706
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 3>men that were with him came to the place where

707
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 3>they were, when Esau suddenly came from his lurking place,

708
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 3>drew his sword and hastened and ran to Nimrod and

709
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.880
<v Speaker 3>cut off his head. And Esau fought a desperate fight

710
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<v Speaker 3>with two men that were with Nimrod, and they called

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00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:40.119
<v Speaker 3>out to him. Esau turned to them and smote them

712
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.679
<v Speaker 3>to death with his sword, and all the mighty men

713
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 3>of Nimrod, who had left him in the wilderness heard

714
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 3>the cry at a distance, and all just kind of

715
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:52.079
<v Speaker 3>paraphrase from here. But after that, it says that he

716
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 3>takes the time to remove Nimrod's garments and then flees,

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00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.400
<v Speaker 3>and it says that he goes to his house and

718
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 3>stashes the garments, and then he goes to his father's house.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's where it picks up with the narrative

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<v Speaker 3>in Genesis of the trading of the birth right, that

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<v Speaker 3>Jacob's there making a stew and he trades the birth right.

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<v Speaker 3>So now it makes a lot more sense, because it

723
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<v Speaker 3>says plainly in the Book of Jeshure that Esau was

724
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:29.639
<v Speaker 3>in the field hunting. Nimrod had jealousy and envy built

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<v Speaker 3>up towards Esau. And remember they're both described as mighty

726
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 3>hunters of the field. And Esau was red covered and

727
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 3>from head to toe look like this beastly of a

728
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:47.559
<v Speaker 3>sasquatch man, and Nimrod was hunting him, trying to kill him.

729
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 3>I make this little joke, but it's kind of true.

730
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:54.320
<v Speaker 3>It's like the Highlander. There can only be one baby.

731
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<v Speaker 3>There was two mighty men, and they wanted to both

732
00:42:58.159 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 3>of them wanted to be the top dog.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny that he cut the head off too,

734
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 2>because that's the way Callenephelin. So yeah, so they say.

735
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And when you look, it says in there it

736
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 3>says repeatedly that the two men that were with him,

737
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 3>it says they were mighty men and Hebrew this was

738
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 3>gibble reim. This is the same words you used to

739
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 3>describe the Nephelum giants. And so he comes in after

740
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.800
<v Speaker 3>killing Nimrod and two giants, and Nimrod was described as

741
00:43:35.800 --> 00:43:38.599
<v Speaker 3>a giver room too. But it says that, you know,

742
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't born at Gibbereim. It says in genis that

743
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:45.000
<v Speaker 3>he became a Gibblerim. So he fights these three giants

744
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.320
<v Speaker 3>and kills them, and then he's got an army of

745
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:50.960
<v Speaker 3>men chasing after him. So he's on the run, scared

746
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.480
<v Speaker 3>to death for his life. He just killed the mighty

747
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:59.559
<v Speaker 3>king Nemrod probably sustained a lot of life threatening injuries

748
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:03.239
<v Speaker 3>in this battle, and so he's scared to death and

749
00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:07.360
<v Speaker 3>he's asking Jacob to hide him to nurse him back

750
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:10.679
<v Speaker 3>to health. And that's why he makes that claim in Genesis.

751
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:12.760
<v Speaker 3>He says, what use is a birthright to me when

752
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm dead? Take it? And that makes a lot more sense.

753
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it definitely does, And it makes a lot more

754
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>sense about you know, how big they were, like different

755
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>things like this, and also about like the whole garment

756
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 2>thing back to them Mormons, Like nothing against Mormons, people

757
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.880
<v Speaker 2>know I say this like Mormons. I don't mean the

758
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 2>regular congregation of good people. I'm talking about where they

759
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 2>came up with this stuff and why they use it

760
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and all the top top dogs basically, but anybody that

761
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.360
<v Speaker 2>knows like about men that have the priestthood and they

762
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 2>have this divine right to rule within themselves and even

763
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 2>the way they act sometimes here. I mean there's jokes.

764
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 2>My friend always says the people out here are scary

765
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the way they drive, because they drive like death can't

766
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>touch on because they literally fill this you know, mighty

767
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:08.920
<v Speaker 2>men type thing. And I'm like, is this why they

768
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:11.039
<v Speaker 2>do it? I don't think it has as much to

769
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:15.519
<v Speaker 2>do with the Jewish you know, dress and honoring and

770
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the temple thing as it does with this let's pay

771
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 2>homage to this cull of Nimrod, you know.

772
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 3>So that's crazy how that ties in. And you know,

773
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people when I tell them this story,

774
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 3>they're like, well, these were like the garments given to

775
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Adam and Eve. This was supposed to be the birthright

776
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.840
<v Speaker 3>and the sign of the priesthood, passed through the good line.

777
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, how did Nemrod wind up with these things? Well,

778
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 3>once again, when you go to the Book of Jasher

779
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 3>and chapter seven, it gives you this lineage and it

780
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.599
<v Speaker 3>says it did. It went through the good line. And

781
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 3>this is what some people will consider the order of

782
00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 3>malchies a deck, and it goes all the way through.

783
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 3>It goes to Enoch, goes to Matthuselah, he goes to Noah,

784
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 3>and it says that these garments were carried through the

785
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 3>flood on the boat with Noah, and that in Ham's

786
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.800
<v Speaker 3>going out, Ham stole the garments and gave them to Cush,

787
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.719
<v Speaker 3>and that Cush concealed them and he had Nimrod, and

788
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.440
<v Speaker 3>just like it talks about Joseph and many of the

789
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:30.119
<v Speaker 3>other favored sons in the Bible. It says that Nimrod

790
00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 3>was the child of Kusha's old age, whom he loved exceedingly,

791
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 3>and that he gave these garments to him. And it

792
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 3>said at the coming of age, when Nimrod turned twenty

793
00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 3>years old, he put on these garments. And the Book

794
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.159
<v Speaker 3>of Jasher plainly says that he when he put on

795
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:53.400
<v Speaker 3>these garments, he became a mighty man, and it was

796
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:58.320
<v Speaker 3>through these garments that he got his power to conquer

797
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:03.400
<v Speaker 3>and rule over the nation. M yeah, that's the question

798
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>that ja. Yeah, everyb says how did he become a gibberine?

799
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:11.039
<v Speaker 3>They believed it was these garments?

800
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Oh yeah, Well it makes complete sense if

801
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:18.840
<v Speaker 2>if you know, you go back to who they probably

802
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 2>belonged to once, right like, And what does he say

803
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>in the in the temple, They're a sign of my

804
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.800
<v Speaker 2>powers and priesthoods, right Like. I mean, when I was

805
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:32.280
<v Speaker 2>listening to you, I was like, oh my gosh, this

806
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.639
<v Speaker 2>is like crazy that it goes with this other thing,

807
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 2>because I knew you had written a book, and I

808
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 2>knew you weren't Mormon, so I'm like, and they don't

809
00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 2>just tell you this, like you wouldn't have got that

810
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:45.119
<v Speaker 2>info from just anywhere, Like that's on the lockdown, you know,

811
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:46.519
<v Speaker 2>they keep that inside.

812
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I'm so glad you reached out to me,

813
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:50.639
<v Speaker 3>because it's another puzzle piece.

814
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 2>So wild. Yeah, And they also talk about the this

815
00:47:55.320 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 2>breastplate of righteousness when Joseph conveniently named again Joseph has

816
00:48:02.039 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the plates from the Book of Mormon. The original story

817
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:10.280
<v Speaker 2>was he used the urim and thumbum, which looks exactly

818
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.960
<v Speaker 2>like the breastplate of righteousness, which is what he calls it,

819
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.119
<v Speaker 2>by the way, to translate these but actually the truth

820
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.280
<v Speaker 2>was it was all translated with witchcraft with searstones and

821
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:25.280
<v Speaker 2>then blocking out the light and everything. So I mean

822
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>some stuff was happening there. Once again. Yeah, it's wild.

823
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.760
<v Speaker 2>And for those people that don't know all this stuff

824
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 2>about the Nakash, really look into that because there are

825
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 2>people to this day in the Brotherhood of the Snake,

826
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:41.119
<v Speaker 2>And I really highly encourage you to talk to Nathan Reynolds,

827
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the SRA survivor if you haven't yet, because he comes

828
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:48.280
<v Speaker 2>from that line and I think you might reach.

829
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 3>Out to him. But I can't. I can't get him

830
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 3>to respond to me, but I'll keep trying.

831
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 2>He takes a long time. It took forever, it was.

832
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:59.039
<v Speaker 2>I think he's just busy. It took me almost a year.

833
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 2>But I can I can also try. But I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

834
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:05.159
<v Speaker 2>I think you.

835
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Guys, is even how Hollywood even gets this stuff? You know,

836
00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 3>It's like they have these you know secrets, you know,

837
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.440
<v Speaker 3>these little esoteric winks that they give and elbow rubs

838
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:18.360
<v Speaker 3>to their buddies and they talk about it and they

839
00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 3>do movies on it, and they just throw it right

840
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.239
<v Speaker 3>there in your face. But the public so dumb, you know,

841
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.719
<v Speaker 3>we're so ignorant. We don't know about these things. Because

842
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 3>once I found this out and discovered this and formed

843
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:33.960
<v Speaker 3>my you know hypothesis, immediately I thought of the movie

844
00:49:34.840 --> 00:49:37.639
<v Speaker 3>Noah and the Flood. You remember that one. Yeah, I

845
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.800
<v Speaker 3>remember when I watched that, I was like, dude, how

846
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 3>blasphemous they got this so wrong? Stone giants helping build

847
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.599
<v Speaker 3>the arc and oh my god, but there's some stuff

848
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:51.760
<v Speaker 3>in there, man, that they got right. And how did

849
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 3>they get it right? How did they know? Because it's

850
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 3>now only after learning what I've learned, that I look

851
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.400
<v Speaker 3>back and I see that. Do you remember in that

852
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:07.519
<v Speaker 3>movie King Ogg, Remember that golden snake skin that he

853
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 3>had wrapped around him, And in that movie it kept

854
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:14.039
<v Speaker 3>calling back, It kept showing the serpent the snake coled

855
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 3>around the tree. And when God casts him out, what

856
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 3>happens in that movie He sheds his skin and this

857
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:28.920
<v Speaker 3>gold shimmering skin was left behind, and that's what had

858
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:32.440
<v Speaker 3>and that was the symbol of his authority and that

859
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 3>he carried it with him everywhere. And once he broke

860
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 3>into the arc, he was sitting there playing with it, remember,

861
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 3>and it showed Ham Ham was sneaking down there and

862
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:45.400
<v Speaker 3>feeding him, and even while Ogg was asleep he picked

863
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 3>it up and was looking at it it all times. Wow,

864
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.239
<v Speaker 3>that was symbolically these garments.

865
00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, sounds just like that. It sounds like what

866
00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:56.639
<v Speaker 2>you were explaining.

867
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Huh. And the Greeks have their version of it, because

868
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.239
<v Speaker 3>those that are familiar with Adjason and the Argonauts, there

869
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:10.199
<v Speaker 3>was the Golden Fleece and in that story is a

870
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:14.280
<v Speaker 3>man and a woman that were commanded to be sacrificed

871
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:18.360
<v Speaker 3>to Zeus, and Athena comes and helps them and sends

872
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 3>them a golden ram that can fly, and that's how

873
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:25.679
<v Speaker 3>they make their escape. Well, as they are making their escape,

874
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:32.719
<v Speaker 3>the woman falls and dies. But then the ram lands

875
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:37.920
<v Speaker 3>in the midst of the garden of Aries, and Athena says,

876
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 3>sacrifice the ram. The ram will be the substitute for you,

877
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:48.599
<v Speaker 3>and that will satisfy God. So they sacrifice the ram.

878
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:54.079
<v Speaker 3>He then cuts the coverings, removes the golden fleece from

879
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 3>this ram, and they hang it on a tree in

880
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 3>the midst of the garden, and a great serpent guards

881
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.360
<v Speaker 3>the tree. And even with the Book of Genesis, you

882
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:10.119
<v Speaker 3>have once again you have Isaac, who was born to Abraham.

883
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.960
<v Speaker 3>God tells Abraham sacrifice his son. He goes and was

884
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 3>getting ready to do it. Last minute things the Lord

885
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.400
<v Speaker 3>stays his hand tells him not to. And what does

886
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 3>God do. God provides a ram in the thicket as

887
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:29.840
<v Speaker 3>a substitute for the sacrifice. All these have ancient beginnings

888
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.880
<v Speaker 3>and origins. It's just retellings.

889
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's weird, just like the flood stories. Everywhere

890
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you can, you can find all this stuff and everything.

891
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>But but then people will say, well that's why I

892
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.239
<v Speaker 2>don't believe in God, right, I'm like, no, it should

893
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.760
<v Speaker 2>help you more like this is like this is real,

894
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:52.679
<v Speaker 2>because this is like you can see the path. But

895
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I get it, I guess.

896
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 3>But it's one too though, because it's either it's either

897
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:07.559
<v Speaker 3>that the pagans or the fallen realm copied and perverted

898
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the original story, or in my opinion, it is preconditionings

899
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 3>of Christ and the truth that he gave to the nations.

900
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:22.199
<v Speaker 3>I think it's very arrogant and pompous to say that

901
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:26.599
<v Speaker 3>the creator of the universe remained silent for centuries to

902
00:53:26.679 --> 00:53:29.760
<v Speaker 3>the entire world and then just suddenly decided to reveal

903
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 3>himself just to a small select group. I think that

904
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:37.559
<v Speaker 3>he manifested and showed hisself to all these other nations.

905
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 3>And that's why you have hints of the Gospel and

906
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 3>hints of the Messiah and the stories throughout every culture.

907
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Is that either God presented himself and gave hints of

908
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:53.559
<v Speaker 3>the truth that way, when it came, they'd be more

909
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 3>prone to accept the truth because it's a familiar story,

910
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 3>or just like the cross. Paul says that if these

911
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:05.719
<v Speaker 3>fallen angels and rulers and principalities would have known that

912
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 3>they were sealing their fate by crucifying the Lord of Glory.

913
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:14.159
<v Speaker 3>They never would, so they plotted and accidentally shot themselves

914
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.760
<v Speaker 3>in the foot. So it's a good possibility that these

915
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:19.719
<v Speaker 3>guys that were there at the beginning, and it says

916
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Jesus was the plan from the foundations, so they knew

917
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.480
<v Speaker 3>the plan, they just didn't know exactly how and when.

918
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:32.480
<v Speaker 3>So once again, would it be out of the you know,

919
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 3>context of scripture for these fallen entities to imitate and

920
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 3>pervert the coming Christ and present themselves to the nations

921
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:46.679
<v Speaker 3>to try to thwart them. That way, people will be

922
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:49.280
<v Speaker 3>like a you know, we have this story. It sounds

923
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.960
<v Speaker 3>just like Jesus and it predates him, so therefore it's hogwash,

924
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 3>it's not true. But God uses what Satan uses for

925
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 3>harm for good for those who love him.

926
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, absolutely true.

927
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:10.639
<v Speaker 3>I think we see another pagan story, a perversion of

928
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:14.000
<v Speaker 3>this story I just told you about Nimrod and Esau

929
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:18.039
<v Speaker 3>with the epic of Gilgamesh. You know a lot of

930
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:23.400
<v Speaker 3>historians align Gilgamesh with Nimrod, and when you read the

931
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:28.000
<v Speaker 3>genealogies there, it says that Gilgamesh was two thirds God

932
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:32.320
<v Speaker 3>and that's his father was Leelu. And this is a

933
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.159
<v Speaker 3>vampire demon. So and then you have this other guy

934
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 3>named Inky Do that was covered in hair from head

935
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 3>to toe and he was a mighty man of the field,

936
00:55:43.480 --> 00:55:48.440
<v Speaker 3>a great hunter. If you stack these two Esau and

937
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Inky Do side by side, they are identical and the

938
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:56.599
<v Speaker 3>same thing with Nimrod and Gilgamesh. But in this perverted

939
00:55:56.719 --> 00:56:01.920
<v Speaker 3>version they fight and Gilgamesh wins and they end up

940
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:07.599
<v Speaker 3>becoming best friends and go on all these epic adventures together. Wow.

941
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I think it's a lot more explanative and

942
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 2>funny enough. You know, there is a real disease that

943
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 2>can cause like a sasquatch looking person and keep opartrica once. Yes,

944
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:22.719
<v Speaker 2>they want to say it's not real, but I'm like,

945
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.599
<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, no, this could be real like this

946
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:31.519
<v Speaker 2>just times it by the size factor and that genetic

947
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:34.760
<v Speaker 2>defect as well, Like like you said in one of them,

948
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.920
<v Speaker 2>like you start mixing seeds, you're gonna throw something out

949
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:43.079
<v Speaker 2>there that's a little weird, you know. Yeah, I don't know.

950
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have these garments. I think you have them

951
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 3>two more times at least possibly three.

952
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

953
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>When you have the incident with Noah passing out drunk

954
00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:58.280
<v Speaker 3>and ham seeing is uh He says that Ham uncovered

955
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 3>his nakedness and big shock factor to some people. But

956
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't that Noah passed out drunk and his son

957
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:08.920
<v Speaker 3>seeing him naked and was making fun of him. No

958
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:14.679
<v Speaker 3>Ham slept with his mother. When you go to Leviticus seventeen,

959
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:19.320
<v Speaker 3>it says in there, to uncover thy father's nakedness is

960
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:24.480
<v Speaker 3>to sleep with thy father's wife. So with that ancient context,

961
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.599
<v Speaker 3>and this was an act of rebellion to take over

962
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.119
<v Speaker 3>the family, and we see that with Ruben. Ruben did

963
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. When you go to Absalom, David's son,

964
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.800
<v Speaker 3>when he runs David out of the kingdom during a

965
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:39.840
<v Speaker 3>hostile takeover. The first thing he done was pitched a

966
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:42.159
<v Speaker 3>tent on David's house and went into all of his

967
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.039
<v Speaker 3>concubines in the sight of all of Israel. You know,

968
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 3>this was the way you flexed on the old man

969
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:47.480
<v Speaker 3>back in the day.

970
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

971
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 3>And so he does it.

972
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Didn't Nimrod sleep with his mom too?

973
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 3>That I do not know.

974
00:57:56.719 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Stories, Yeah, And so.

975
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.559
<v Speaker 3>The way I looked at it was he tried to

976
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:07.679
<v Speaker 3>take over, and he goes out and tells his brothers,

977
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, and it's like, and this is me and

978
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 3>my creative take. But he does that deed, comes outside

979
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:18.480
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, hey, guys, dad's a drunk. All he

980
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:21.280
<v Speaker 3>does is get drunk. He's in a he's depressed ever

981
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 3>since we got off the boat. He's not fit to

982
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 3>lead anymore. I just did this deed. You guys go

983
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.800
<v Speaker 3>do the same, and we will take over. He can't

984
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 3>take all three of us. It's our time now. And

985
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:39.719
<v Speaker 3>whether Ham's mother was willingly doing this or she was raped,

986
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It doesn't come right out and say right,

987
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:47.039
<v Speaker 3>but it says the brothers takes a garment and place

988
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 3>on their back and walk backwards, and they cover their

989
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.360
<v Speaker 3>father's nakedness. So they refuse. But when you look in

990
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.760
<v Speaker 3>the original language, it doesn't say a garment. In Hebrew,

991
00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 3>it says they took the garment, which once again was

992
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 3>the symbol of authority in kingship and priesthood. So he

993
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:09.559
<v Speaker 3>was trying to become the leader of the family. So

994
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 3>how fitting would it be that they took the symbol

995
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:17.519
<v Speaker 3>of leadership to cover their mother's nakedness and decline. The

996
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:20.719
<v Speaker 3>rebellion and the curse makes a lot more sense because

997
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.639
<v Speaker 3>he wakes up and says a servant to thy brothers,

998
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:26.239
<v Speaker 3>you shall be. So he wanted to be served, but

999
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 3>instead he would serve. But then he says, curse itud

1000
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:32.639
<v Speaker 3>be Canaan. When you look at the the chronology, Canaan

1001
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 3>wasn't born yet. Canaan was Ham's firstborn son. I think that,

1002
00:59:39.239 --> 00:59:41.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, it says that Noah, you know, woke up

1003
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:46.679
<v Speaker 3>from his wine. So we assume this was a day.

1004
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 3>This could have been a few months down the road,

1005
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.199
<v Speaker 3>you know. I take it as when once he decided

1006
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 3>to quit drinking every day, you know, got over his

1007
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, moment of the dark soul, so to speak.

1008
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 3>And when he did, he realized his wife was pregnant

1009
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:03.440
<v Speaker 3>and they were going to name it Canaan, and he

1010
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:06.719
<v Speaker 3>realized that it wasn't his son, and he realized what

1011
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 3>Ham did. So that's why he said, cursed v Caanan.

1012
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did look it up. Nimrod's wife was his mommy.

1013
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.519
<v Speaker 2>So and it makes so much sense with this kind

1014
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:21.559
<v Speaker 2>of stuff because this is the stuff they used to do.

1015
01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:24.079
<v Speaker 2>And that makes sense. I mean, I know it's horrible nowadays,

1016
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.239
<v Speaker 2>but like this wasn't that uncommon. And actually Jack Parsons

1017
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:29.760
<v Speaker 2>did this crap too, Like it's not like it never

1018
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:30.480
<v Speaker 2>went away.

1019
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, royals do it now. I mean, that's why

1020
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 3>they want to keep that bloodline pure. So they sleep

1021
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:40.400
<v Speaker 3>with their mother, they sleep with their sisters. And you

1022
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:42.880
<v Speaker 3>see it depicted in some of these hit movie series

1023
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:48.559
<v Speaker 3>Game of Thrones, Yeah yeah, And I think you see

1024
01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 3>those garments again with Joseph, because once again we follow

1025
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:58.199
<v Speaker 3>the trading of this birthright once Jacob gets it, because

1026
01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:01.360
<v Speaker 3>how Jacob gets it. He didn't get it at the

1027
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:03.880
<v Speaker 3>trading of the birthright with the stew because if you

1028
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:07.159
<v Speaker 3>remember the story, it says that Esau hid the garments

1029
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.519
<v Speaker 3>at his house and then went to his father's house,

1030
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:13.320
<v Speaker 3>so it was like it was a verbal agreement, you know, yeah,

1031
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I'll give you the birthright, and that was just basically,

1032
01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 3>you'll get all the privileges of the eldest son. But

1033
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.880
<v Speaker 3>he never planned on doing it. I think he'd done it.

1034
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:26.079
<v Speaker 3>He just said that to deceive him. But then when

1035
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:31.239
<v Speaker 3>it comes time, Isaac tells Esau calls him into his

1036
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 3>chamber he's going blind. He says, sons, go out, and

1037
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.239
<v Speaker 3>I want to taste of your game one more time.

1038
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.360
<v Speaker 3>So he goes out and goes to hunt Will Rebecca.

1039
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Here's this. Ghest tells Jacob and says, go kill a

1040
01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:46.519
<v Speaker 3>young goat, bring it to me. I'll prepare a meal,

1041
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.880
<v Speaker 3>and you pretend to be Esau and get the birth right.

1042
01:01:51.079 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 3>And he's immediately scared to death. He says, no, mother,

1043
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:57.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm a smooth man. And what if he finds out

1044
01:01:57.320 --> 01:02:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and he curses me instead? And she said, if that happens,

1045
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 3>allow your curse to follow me. Just do what I say.

1046
01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:06.920
<v Speaker 3>And it says they take this scope for and wrap

1047
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.000
<v Speaker 3>around Jacob. But then it also says, when you read

1048
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:13.039
<v Speaker 3>it in Genesis, that she goes and gets a garment

1049
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.800
<v Speaker 3>of Esaus. So I think she went in there and

1050
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.920
<v Speaker 3>got the garments and put those on him too, and

1051
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.519
<v Speaker 3>then he feels of him, you know, and he's like, oh, yeah,

1052
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:27.400
<v Speaker 3>my son, you're so hairy and you smell of the field.

1053
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:32.840
<v Speaker 3>And so Jacob later on has a son once again

1054
01:02:33.039 --> 01:02:36.480
<v Speaker 3>in his old age. It says whom he loved exceedingly,

1055
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:39.320
<v Speaker 3>and this was Joseph, and it says he gives him

1056
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:42.920
<v Speaker 3>a coat of many colors. I think that this is

1057
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 3>that garment because either there's even supernatural stuff tied to it,

1058
01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 3>because once Joseph is given this coat of many colors.

1059
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:53.840
<v Speaker 3>That's when he starts having these dreams and these visions,

1060
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:56.199
<v Speaker 3>and he tells his brothers, I had a dream that

1061
01:02:56.280 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 3>you bowed before me. And not only did you bow

1062
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 3>the wheat of the field, and the stars of heaven

1063
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:04.000
<v Speaker 3>bowed before me.

1064
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:09.480
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense, because I mean

1065
01:03:09.719 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 2>the stars of Heaven my angels.

1066
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just fascinating when you follow that trail. And

1067
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:24.400
<v Speaker 3>then like you talked about, was the genealogies and the

1068
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 3>mating and the hybrids. Because once this happened, Esau goes

1069
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.400
<v Speaker 3>into full rebellion and he takes three wives. Well he's

1070
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.559
<v Speaker 3>first two. He takes or from the Canaanite tribes, which

1071
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.719
<v Speaker 3>they were commanded not to take from because they were

1072
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:44.559
<v Speaker 3>a cursed tribe going back to Ham and Noah, and

1073
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:50.599
<v Speaker 3>it was spawned out of an incestuous act. And the

1074
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:56.480
<v Speaker 3>tribes he took from were Whrites and Heates. And if

1075
01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:58.760
<v Speaker 3>you ever listened to Gary Wayne, he lays it out,

1076
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:02.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, very detai hell. These were known giant clans

1077
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.079
<v Speaker 3>and it says his father in law was Sierra and

1078
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 3>they dwelled in the wilderness around Mount Sierra and Hebrew

1079
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:16.760
<v Speaker 3>that word Sierra means Harry. So you have this harry

1080
01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:22.679
<v Speaker 3>quote unquote man breeding with giant clans you want to

1081
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:24.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, you have a very high probability of throwing

1082
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.880
<v Speaker 3>some strange pups. And then if that wasn't enough, he

1083
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:34.239
<v Speaker 3>then takes a wife from Ishmael. So, if you know

1084
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 3>your Bible history, Ishmael was the first born son of Abraham,

1085
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:42.719
<v Speaker 3>he was supposed to get the birth right. Well, then

1086
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:50.360
<v Speaker 3>Sarah miraculously gets pregnant and has his mother and Isaac

1087
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.679
<v Speaker 3>basically threw out into the wilderness to fend for themselves.

1088
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:58.599
<v Speaker 3>So here with Isaac marrying into the family of Ishmael,

1089
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:03.119
<v Speaker 3>you have the owing together of the two elder brothers

1090
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:07.519
<v Speaker 3>that were both disinherited. So you can imagine the hatred

1091
01:05:07.599 --> 01:05:10.760
<v Speaker 3>that was bred in that union, and all your Islamic

1092
01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:14.920
<v Speaker 3>nations and people that just won't you know, God's people

1093
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:18.039
<v Speaker 3>wiped off the face of the earth all trace their

1094
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.199
<v Speaker 3>genealogies back to Ishmael.

1095
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:23.320
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

1096
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.760
<v Speaker 3>See, yeah, we're all over mmm.

1097
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:32.639
<v Speaker 2>Still happening, probably way more than we realized because they've

1098
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:36.719
<v Speaker 2>confused history and hidden everything. So most of us don't

1099
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:39.159
<v Speaker 2>even know our history, except maybe if we took a

1100
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:42.440
<v Speaker 2>spit test. And that's only if they want to play nice.

1101
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Like if they did find anything, and they do know anything,

1102
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:49.360
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna hide that. I mean, look who's over it.

1103
01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:50.760
<v Speaker 2>That's all I have to say.

1104
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:54.800
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah. And one of the fascinating things that

1105
01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:59.159
<v Speaker 3>this is probably for me was the wildest I mean

1106
01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:01.280
<v Speaker 3>it was it was wild. I'll learning all this stuff

1107
01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:05.400
<v Speaker 3>and seeing how it all just fit together. But here

1108
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:09.679
<v Speaker 3>he married into these giant clans that were in the wilderness.

1109
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:14.719
<v Speaker 3>And when we have Moses leading its people out in Exodus,

1110
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:20.440
<v Speaker 3>in the Exos through Deuteronomy and Leviticus, that's the wilderness

1111
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:23.679
<v Speaker 3>wandering times. And there's where you get all your laws.

1112
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:25.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, do not do this, do not do that.

1113
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:28.800
<v Speaker 3>And once again, like we said earlier, you don't make

1114
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.599
<v Speaker 3>up a law or a rule unless you are seeing

1115
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:34.480
<v Speaker 3>it and someone else is doing it. And if we

1116
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:36.920
<v Speaker 3>look at those I think it's telling of the people

1117
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:41.920
<v Speaker 3>that they encountered. So what's it say? It says, do

1118
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:44.639
<v Speaker 3>not drink the blood. The blood is in the life

1119
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:47.519
<v Speaker 3>for us. Do not pass your children through the fires

1120
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:52.159
<v Speaker 3>the molek. Do not seek necromancers, do not seek mediums.

1121
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:57.960
<v Speaker 3>No longer will you sacrifice your children to harry goat demons,

1122
01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:01.920
<v Speaker 3>then you have the day of atonement, the Azazel goat

1123
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:08.760
<v Speaker 3>that they cast their sins upon. And who's the first

1124
01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:14.719
<v Speaker 3>tribe that they're documented to see and this tribe that

1125
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:20.360
<v Speaker 3>sees them attacks them. It's the Amalekites. Well, their name

1126
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:25.599
<v Speaker 3>means blood liquors. And when you go to the genealogies,

1127
01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:30.639
<v Speaker 3>you know this tribe was named after a Malik, and

1128
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:37.000
<v Speaker 3>a Malik was Esau's nephew from this marriage of the Horites.

1129
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:41.920
<v Speaker 3>So it's my opinion. You know, it says that this

1130
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.880
<v Speaker 3>was the first tribe they encountered, and they fought, they

1131
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:48.840
<v Speaker 3>attacked them from behind. I think they were God's people

1132
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:52.440
<v Speaker 3>were seeing these people and their name means blood liquor,

1133
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.079
<v Speaker 3>and they were commanded to not drink the blood. I

1134
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:59.679
<v Speaker 3>think that, you know, not seek necromancers and sorcerers, don't

1135
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:03.199
<v Speaker 3>sack to harry goat demons, don't pass your children through

1136
01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:07.400
<v Speaker 3>the fire. That's because they were having encounters and seeing

1137
01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 3>these people, and that's what they were doing. They were

1138
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.719
<v Speaker 3>sacrificing children, they were drinking blood. They were sorcerers. The

1139
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:22.600
<v Speaker 3>ancient medieval rabbi Rashi, he's translated the targums and wrote

1140
01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:26.560
<v Speaker 3>commentaries and stuff, and he says that when the Bible

1141
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:29.479
<v Speaker 3>says to kill every man, woman, and child and not

1142
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:34.079
<v Speaker 3>even spare the animals, it is because they were known

1143
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:39.840
<v Speaker 3>sorcerers and that they would shape shift into animals to

1144
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:42.359
<v Speaker 3>avoid capture, and that's why he told them to do that.

1145
01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:47.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's why, I mean, God's people were seeing this

1146
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:51.920
<v Speaker 3>tribe of harry giants doing all these things. And like,

1147
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I keep mentioning these common themes because that's why I

1148
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:58.159
<v Speaker 3>think they all draw their origin from. When you go

1149
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:02.039
<v Speaker 3>to Sardinia, they have this tradition with the they call

1150
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:05.800
<v Speaker 3>them the Mathones or the Methanes. During the winter solstice,

1151
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:09.800
<v Speaker 3>they would take goats fur and put on them and

1152
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:12.680
<v Speaker 3>then put bells on their back and shoulders, and they

1153
01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:16.199
<v Speaker 3>stampede to the town and they dance and shake the bells,

1154
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.479
<v Speaker 3>and then they grab and abduct women from the crowd.

1155
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:23.119
<v Speaker 3>And during the same time, the children that are coming

1156
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:26.399
<v Speaker 3>of age, they lit a huge bonfire and these kids

1157
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:28.159
<v Speaker 3>have to pass through the fire.

1158
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Mm. That's wild. That's I mean, it's everywhere, and I

1159
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:39.680
<v Speaker 2>mean it can't not mean anything. Like all of these

1160
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:45.920
<v Speaker 2>dots connecting are just you know, that's fantastic. You've done

1161
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:46.760
<v Speaker 2>a great job on this.

1162
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:50.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was back here with like three cigarettes and

1163
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:52.840
<v Speaker 3>the board with the red yarn the string.

1164
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I know that. Well. I was gonna tell you a

1165
01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:02.239
<v Speaker 2>fun little fact. It's off hand and it could be anybody,

1166
01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:05.279
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think most people would name their kid this. Okay,

1167
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:11.119
<v Speaker 2>but Joseph Smith's grandpa, not his father, was named Ozzie

1168
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.039
<v Speaker 2>L as a E. L. And I'm sorry, I don't

1169
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:18.239
<v Speaker 2>think that normal people, out of a normal line would

1170
01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:22.279
<v Speaker 2>name their kid that. That just seems like everybody knows

1171
01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:26.359
<v Speaker 2>about these stories for how long, you know? Yeah, And

1172
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, just pull that out of nowhere. Let's

1173
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:34.479
<v Speaker 2>get real. Yeah, I don't know, it's weird.

1174
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Joseph Smith definitely had an encounter, but I don't think

1175
01:10:37.399 --> 01:10:38.720
<v Speaker 3>it was a jail.

1176
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I think it was the fallen Angel. I think it

1177
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 2>lied to him. And you know, I've told this and

1178
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I'd be happy to come and show you my presentation sometime.

1179
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:51.880
<v Speaker 2>But every religion that almost every religion will say almost

1180
01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:55.960
<v Speaker 2>that I cover. It's like, you know, they have this

1181
01:10:56.079 --> 01:11:00.119
<v Speaker 2>fit of darkness, they wake up and then some entity

1182
01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:02.800
<v Speaker 2>or angel or whatever tells them to write a book

1183
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:05.399
<v Speaker 2>and the book becomes a religion. This happens to Crowley,

1184
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 2>This happens to Joseph Smith, this happens to Mohammed. This

1185
01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:11.119
<v Speaker 2>happens to a whole bunch of people. This isn't just one.

1186
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.199
<v Speaker 2>So when you look at that, you've got to say, well,

1187
01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:17.279
<v Speaker 2>something's going on here. Jack Parsons too, Like, I mean,

1188
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:20.279
<v Speaker 2>they're not pulling this stuff. They're not. They didn't know

1189
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:24.279
<v Speaker 2>each other. They're in different time frames completely. Crowley was

1190
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:27.520
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with Joseph Smith, and that makes me even know

1191
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:33.079
<v Speaker 2>it's more true, you know, like call yeah, yeah, it's weird.

1192
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 3>Like I'd love to have you on the show, and

1193
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:36.439
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to account.

1194
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:40.199
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear yeah, yeah, I'm we'll definitely book that.

1195
01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:42.880
<v Speaker 2>As soon as you're done with your dinner tonight, shoot

1196
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:45.239
<v Speaker 2>me some dates because I'm down. Yeah, I'd love to

1197
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:50.840
<v Speaker 2>come show it. Yes, you bet, I love it. We

1198
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:53.039
<v Speaker 2>got to get the truth out there so people can

1199
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.960
<v Speaker 2>learn because like I might have something you don't have.

1200
01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, it's all puzzle pieces, right, like.

1201
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:01.520
<v Speaker 3>We don't know even pretend to be righteous, you know.

1202
01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:03.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's great if other people learn it. But

1203
01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:05.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm selfish. I want to know myself.

1204
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:11.520
<v Speaker 2>There you go, there we go, and this is just fantastic.

1205
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I think the work you've done here could show people

1206
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:18.359
<v Speaker 2>truly like because if you hear about sasquatch right, you're like,

1207
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:21.279
<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, it's one of those conspiracy theories that

1208
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you either know this or you go this is they're crazy.

1209
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Like just walk away, you know, because it sounds crazy,

1210
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:33.199
<v Speaker 2>but not when you present it in a proper way, like, yeah,

1211
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:34.600
<v Speaker 2>this is a real thing.

1212
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:36.920
<v Speaker 3>So yeah. In the book Enochs, you know, it says

1213
01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:41.560
<v Speaker 3>that demons are the distance body disembodied spirits of the Nephilum. Yes, so,

1214
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.239
<v Speaker 3>and all these sasquatches all of a sudden the footprints

1215
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:49.159
<v Speaker 3>footprints disappear, and people say they're going in and out

1216
01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:52.000
<v Speaker 3>of portals. They do the mind speak. And then there's

1217
01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:55.640
<v Speaker 3>also UFO sidings sometimes associated with it. You know, you

1218
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 3>have all the wu. Well, if these are from the

1219
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:03.239
<v Speaker 3>u of Esau interbreeding with giants, and these are nephelim,

1220
01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:08.920
<v Speaker 3>you know blood when they died, their spirits roamed the

1221
01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:14.920
<v Speaker 3>earth and through some maybe some help, through some the

1222
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 3>rulers or principalities that are still ruling over the nations now,

1223
01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:22.319
<v Speaker 3>I believe from Deuteronomy thirty two, those rebellious sons. You know,

1224
01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:26.640
<v Speaker 3>maybe these UFOs are the craft and that's their way

1225
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:32.640
<v Speaker 3>of conveyance, and they are helping their progeny. And that's

1226
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.720
<v Speaker 3>maybe why you see him always hand in hand a

1227
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:36.399
<v Speaker 3>lot of times.

1228
01:13:37.159 --> 01:13:38.199
<v Speaker 2>And they can tell you for.

1229
01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:43.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, if they want big strong Harryman walking the earth,

1230
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:46.479
<v Speaker 3>they would want to choose a form that's familiar to them.

1231
01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep. Well, And plus, I mean, I've known some

1232
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.359
<v Speaker 2>people that are not woo woo in my life at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Like my uncle is is Airborne Greenbery. He's out now,

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01:13:58.159 --> 01:14:02.680
<v Speaker 2>he's retired. He did like I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 2>many tours and presidential he was up there. Man, he

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01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:08.479
<v Speaker 2>was top top and he's not one of these woo

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01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:10.880
<v Speaker 2>woo kind of guys. And so we go camping with

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<v Speaker 2>him sometimes. And last year I said, all right, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me the weirdest thing you've ever seen. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>expecting something not not paranormal, right, because he's not like

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01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:22.800
<v Speaker 2>that at all. He's very.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>He flat told me I seen a sasquatch. He's like,

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01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:31.520
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even at work. I was out hunting in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of like I can't remember, it was like

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01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee or somewhere mid I can find out. And he

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01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:41.920
<v Speaker 2>told me, and I was like nah. And he's like, Heidi,

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01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean with my job, I'm telling you, I can

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<v Speaker 2>shoot things with pretty good clarity. I mean, he's like,

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01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I do secret missions and stuff and I couldn't catch

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01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:55.199
<v Speaker 2>it and I couldn't get it. He's like, there's no

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01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:58.840
<v Speaker 2>way that thing was real, like normal human real, you know,

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01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:02.640
<v Speaker 2>like he swears, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, there's too many stories, man, And I love how

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01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Mike said one time, he said, yeah, you hear a

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01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:12.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of stories, and some of them sound fanatical, you know,

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01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:17.279
<v Speaker 3>but there's too many to ignore, and they're too similar

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01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:21.039
<v Speaker 3>to ignore. And all it takes is one If one

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01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:24.000
<v Speaker 3>story is true, then that busts the paradigm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yep, yep, I agree. Wow, this was great. Is

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01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:33.000
<v Speaker 2>there any other stuff that we missed on this?

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<v Speaker 3>Now that that's pretty much yet that there's some little,

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01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:40.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, nuggets and tidbits and stuff that I kept

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<v Speaker 3>in the book. But hopefully I sparked enough interest that

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01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:48.000
<v Speaker 3>you'll want to check the book out or come listen

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01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.600
<v Speaker 3>to some other talks and stuff. But I got the

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01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:53.199
<v Speaker 3>book finished. I'm just working on trying to get it

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01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:55.640
<v Speaker 3>published and get it out there. This is my first book,

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01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:58.520
<v Speaker 3>so it's kind of a learning experience for me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. I hope to see it soon out there

1271
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:03.680
<v Speaker 2>because it sounds like it it's going to be a

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01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:07.720
<v Speaker 2>great informational read, you know, just from everything you've gone through,

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01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:12.159
<v Speaker 2>and I think this has really really been hashed out. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not like like you said you you

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<v Speaker 2>were researching. It's not just some little theory that you

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01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:19.479
<v Speaker 2>were like, nuh, that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right. I have theories and I have speculations, but

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01:16:23.199 --> 01:16:25.319
<v Speaker 3>I try my best to let you know up front, hey,

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01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.600
<v Speaker 3>this is my theory or this is what I think,

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01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.439
<v Speaker 3>but then i'd give you the context in the scripture

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01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:34.840
<v Speaker 3>and my resources why I believe that. So I always

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01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:37.680
<v Speaker 3>like to jokingly say their theories, but they're in good company.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, there you go. Well, I can't wait

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01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:42.520
<v Speaker 2>for this book to come out and to come on

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01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:45.720
<v Speaker 2>and chat with you about wacky Mormons. I call them wacky,

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01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:50.560
<v Speaker 2>but they're most my family, so I can't be too harsh.

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01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but it exposes the top because just like anything,

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01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:56.640
<v Speaker 2>everything at the very tip top is corrupt and there's

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01:16:56.720 --> 01:16:59.520
<v Speaker 2>just nothing we can really do other than fight back

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01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:02.920
<v Speaker 2>with knowledge. Really, that's at this point what I do anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So remind everybody where show is one more time, And

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01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:09.479
<v Speaker 2>thank you again so much for coming on. This has

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01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:10.159
<v Speaker 2>been a pleasure.

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01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you for having me. I enjoy these conversations.

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01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:19.159
<v Speaker 3>I enjoy networking and meeting people like you, and because

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01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:22.279
<v Speaker 3>that's just that's another information channel that we can share

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01:17:22.279 --> 01:17:25.399
<v Speaker 3>with each other and learn and grow and and and

1298
01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:28.640
<v Speaker 3>build our knowledge base and our community base. So it

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01:17:28.720 --> 01:17:31.399
<v Speaker 3>was it was a blessing to meet you today, So

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01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:34.880
<v Speaker 3>thank you so much for that. And but yeah, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>if you enjoyed the conversation, I'm having conversations like this

1302
01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:43.760
<v Speaker 3>every single week, authors and speakers and researchers. And if

1303
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:47.359
<v Speaker 3>you like Heidi stuff, you'll probably like my stuff. We're

1304
01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:51.760
<v Speaker 3>in the same vein here, and so all the social

1305
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:54.760
<v Speaker 3>media is all the places you consume content. You can

1306
01:17:54.840 --> 01:17:59.760
<v Speaker 3>find me there, and it's Prometheus Lynn's podcast. The website

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01:17:59.880 --> 01:18:03.439
<v Speaker 3>is Prometheus Lynn's podcast dot com. And I've kind of

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01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:07.039
<v Speaker 3>coined it as the Hero's Journey. You know, you have

1309
01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:10.239
<v Speaker 3>to go into the unknown, you have to slay the dragon,

1310
01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:13.359
<v Speaker 3>you have to rescue the damsel, but then you come

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01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:17.840
<v Speaker 3>out on the other end as a hero. So each

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01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:20.760
<v Speaker 3>show I open up and I tell people, welcome to

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01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.560
<v Speaker 3>the hero's journey. So I hope to see you guys there.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome. I love that. I actually love that. And you know,

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01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:31.840
<v Speaker 2>we take a lot of bullets, like he was saying earlier,

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01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:34.239
<v Speaker 2>please don't come at me, like he was like, hey,

1317
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:38.399
<v Speaker 2>and we do. You know, this isn't always well received,

1318
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:42.199
<v Speaker 2>especially he's in something that probably is harsh to digest.

1319
01:18:42.319 --> 01:18:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm and stuff that's harsh to digest. It doesn't make

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01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:47.720
<v Speaker 2>us less Christian. It just makes us part of God's army.

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01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.239
<v Speaker 2>And so we're just trying to help people understand some

1322
01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:56.600
<v Speaker 2>of this crat crazy world because it may seem fake

1323
01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:58.840
<v Speaker 2>or just you know, that's Lord of the Ring stuff.

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01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:00.960
<v Speaker 2>But where do you think they got their ideas from?

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01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:04.680
<v Speaker 2>So uh yeah, a whole nother talk for another day,

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01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:07.119
<v Speaker 2>but it's not as crazy as you might think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I appreciate you. I can't wait to come

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01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:13.319
<v Speaker 2>on and chat with you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much, Oh, thank you, And I'll look

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01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:17.880
<v Speaker 3>forward to having you on mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, awesome, God bless Let's do it. Oh,
